Charles, I think you missed this one.

CAIR sued and then organized a boycott after the horror of a Muslim kicked off a flight after attempting to open the cockpit door twice!

Blog Reaction Roundup...developing..

Snakes on a plane

Captain Kirk: "Auto-dialer set to stun."

as Muslims have begun departing for the weeklong hajj, a once-in-a-lifetime obligation to visit the holy city of Mecca

Ah, the Hajj... so, how many trampling deaths are expected this year?

They COULD get real busy with the phone number made public to those in need of CAIRing.
/just sayin'

Sounds like some great prank calling opportunities to me.

I am hoping this will backfire on them. Americans have had enough. I would think moderate Muslims in the US would be tiring of these types of tactics too, as it makes all Muslims look bad.

Somebody should hack the site and replace the phone number with the number for the suicide prevention hotline.
It would do a lot more good.

On the plus side, with the usual stampeding and mayhem usu. associated with the Hajj, some of them won't be coming back.

Stupidly overplaying their hand, IMO. I just don't see the fear of PC missteps out there that they are trying desperately to plant.

Who do the people who were on the four planes (minus 19-of course!) that were used to attack the US on 9/11/01 call to complain about the discrimination they suffered by "Flying while an infidel"?

-crickets-

This would be a great time to crackdown on illegal immigration. Maybe we could keep alot of them out... Then CAIR *Spit* wouldn't get as many calls.

this type of thing reflects the ridiculousness of banning racial profiling.

I wonder if these muslims would complain as loud if they were flying EL-AL...didn't think so.

I guess irony isn't CAIR's strong point since, by definition, Kuffars aren't even allowed near Mecca.

pretty clever these Muslims -800-RUG-PLAN
easy to remember

The Haj, good times, I always enjoy the images self flagellation, myself.(not)
Warning, link below contains bloody images of practitioners of Religion of Peace™ observing this line from the koran:
"He who cries or tries to cry for Al-Hussain, Heaven becomes obligatory for him"
[Link: www.allaahuakbar.net...]

Feel free to complain.....no one CAIR's

Sounds like some great prank calling opportunities to me.

There's a poster for Chipotle at my Metro station. It has a picture of a pig on it. I think it would be funny to call that hotline and say that the poster is only there to offend muslims and it needs to be removed.

ctrlL

They COULD get real busy with the phone number made public to those in need of CAIRing./just sayin

Well it is an 800 number after all.

OT (? :) ....not really.....)

Ray Moore says no way Ellison can do his job...

Can we call if we feel that we infidel dogs are being profiled by a faithful bomber ?

Can we call if any giant crowd of faithful bombers believers chants "DEATH TO AMERICA DEATH TO ISRAEL" ?

Can we call to ask for civil right for Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Shamans, Pagans, Animists, Atheists in Saudi Arabia ?

Can we call if Bibles get seized at the Saudi border by a christianophobe ?

Can we call to denounce any case of Judaismophobia ?

Can we call to ask for help against Pagan-o-phobia ?

How did someone get deleted so quickly this morning?

From a Muslim outlook, imams have missed the point on flight behavior

Dec. 11, 2006 10:52 AM

The first thing one must understand about this whole hullabaloo with the Muslim imams taken off a Phoenix-bound plane in Minneapolis is that it most definitely was not about the right to prayer or freedom of worship.

And much as the imams and their handlers may try, it is certainly not about victimization.

But because the case of the six imams (five from the Valley) and US Airways Flight 300 has taken on a life of its own, it would be helpful to look and see what lessons can be gleaned from this story.

All of us as Americans have endured the incremental inconveniences of air travel since 9/11. From 3-ounce fluid limits to random searches, those of us with the first name Mohammed can also attest to humbling profiling. Most of us are quite willing to endure all this because we know the inherent dangers of flying in the world today.

There is little argument that American airport concourses have become clinics of anxiety-laden travelers who have become vigilant in spotting anything out of the ordinary. This vigilance and anxiety is even more acutely felt by U.S. Transportation Security Administration agents and airline crews. They will never be rewarded for a safe flight. But they will be globally vilified for one lax call that leads to tragedy.

Into this highly charged environment comes this incident of the imams returning from their conference. To ignore the larger context is to virtually live in an airtight bubble.

(follow link to read the rest)

In Saudi Arabia, do Muslim women have to ride outside of the plane?

Some of you are missing the point. The target audience here are the muslims on their way to Mecca. This is all about planting the seeds of victimhood in their minds. Another example of what victims they are and the need for Jihad. It's a drip, drip, drip method of building anti western hatred.

There are not expected to be any complaints from non-Muslims, because they’re barred from entering the “holy” city.

Peace Not Apartheid
/Peanut Farmer

Compare Muslim complaints HERE to the plight of citizens in Egypt, who MUST declare themselves Muslims, Christians or Jews. Period.

Baha'is have been struggling (with some success) for 4 years (since the computerization of national ID cards changed the situation) and a Supreme Court decision is expected Dec 16

Quite a contrast...

#9 yah 12/13/2006 08:03AM PST

I am hoping this will backfire on them. Americans have had enough. I would think moderate Muslims in the US would be tiring of these types of tactics too, as it makes all Muslims look bad.

Kind od like Jesse Jackson and blacks.

It's a good thing the hotline is setup already. They can complain in advance to avoid peak times.

#23 Ma Sands

FROM YOUR LINK

In 1943, we would never have allowed a member of Congress to take their oath on "Mein Kampf," or someone in the 1950s to swear allegiance to the "Communist Manifesto."

But now we are nuanced, modern and metrosexual (and soon... dead too, if the sweet invaders realize their dreams).

Simply misunderstood wannabe-corrupt-politicians-in-the-making.

I guess doesnt understand the term "irony"

#23 Ma Sands

It's Roy Moore, not Ray, and he's a nutjob. However, he does have a point about swearing allegiance to the Constitution.

I love the smell of [DELETED] in the morning !

/what was that ?

#37 Poitiers: NAPALM!

The Left always reminds us how "inclusive" Islam is.

As opposed to those dirty birdy intolerant Christians who preach peace and are therefore a clear & present danger to all of civilization.

Just ask most any Hollywood star, Ivy-League prof, or east coast journalist.

Whoooooooooooooooooosh.

What got deleted?

I have my video phone camera at the ready when I travel. I'm happy to document any suspicious or belligerent behavior on the part of "fellow travelers".

Muslims need to be watched very closely and they are.

Nice ! That sign at the bottom of Charles' post is nice indeed !

muslim only...ROUTE 666 !

If discrimination against Muslims is racism, then discrimination against non-Muslims must also be racism. I get it.

Apparently CAIR is having trouble getting enough claimed cases as it is, that they have to make a toll free number to get even more dubious cases to come in.

The more dubious cases that come in, the less relevant CAIR becomes. Who would take them seriously if they keep crying wolf every time a bunch of imams decide to do everything short of hijacking a plane in an attempt to get someone to notice them (yelling allah ackbar, grouping together and then sitting separately, refusing to listen to flight staff, etc., and then exaggerating or inventing details of the incident that are unsupported by other witnesses and police records).

#36 Gothic 12/13/2006 08:19AM PST

#23 Ma Sands

It's Roy Moore, not Ray, and he's a nutjob. However, he does have a point about swearing allegiance to the Constitution.

Swearing on the Qur'an is like swearing on Mein Kampf. How can Ellison serve his countries interests when the Qur'an superseeds everything else for Muslims? Its a book that advocates war on everything we hold sacred.

#36 Gothic

Oops. :)

I've had enough.

Is there a list anywhere of every single airplane hijacking? I'd love to see that and a map graphic of all hijackings.

Wikipedia does have a list of well-known hijackings and Muslims are pretty well represented on that list. That's why they deserve extra scrutiny.

CAIR is trying to do a Hajjacking, a preliminacy step that facilitates a Hijacking.

#38 Carridine

My post was open to "misunderunderstandings" indeed.

I meant the real [DELETED] at #6.

Headline in today's San Francisco Chronicle:

America Loses Another War

Iraq: a shameful ass-whupping, or just a pathetic trouncing? Ugly disgrace?

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

#37 Poitiers-Lepanto

I love the smell of [DELETED] in the morning !

/what was that ?

oh, just a contributer posting what most logical folks are thinking, but cannot yet say.

/and I'm the guilty hall monitor this time

#28 bweep,

Given the culture of entitlement/arrogance that we see in American Muslims, is this not intended to spark resentment if they are not treated with sufficient deference?

Wah, the kufirs are disrespecting Islam. Wah.

Yes, non-Muslims have it so easy in Dar-al-Islam.

And non-Muslims resisting (even passively) Islamic terrorism in Dar-al-Harb is tantamount to "racism" and "Islamophobia."

If a Muslim spits in your face in Dearborn, you'd better smile quickly, apologize to him, offer him tribute money, and praise Allah. If you ask the Muslim why he spit in your face, you are an Islamophobe, a racist, and many other horrible things.

So sayeth Ibrahim Hooper.

Yes, what got deleted? We ought to be able to see it by typing our password.

Talk about Apartheid. Where's Carter's outrage over mandatory seperation of people according to religion in Saudi Arabia?

So stampede season corrleates with Chanukkah, Christmas and New Years this year? Whoooo-Hooooo!

#51 Nolimit

Well, that could be a sub-clause of the Iron Fist Rule:

If you wonder if what you want to post cannot yet be said, it cannot yet be said.

I'm OK with the trip to mecca if it is one-way.

Notice the planning and coordination between "our friends the Saudis" and CAIR.
I wonder if the Saudis realize what a laughingstock the "Council on American Islamic Relations" has become? How the Sauds are pissing their petrodollars away on an organization that is doing them more harm than good?

The media is feeling its collective bowels loosen with excitment at the prospect of America "losing" in Iraq. Or having a collective wet dream.

America is fairly unique in the world in that its collective intelligentsia are united in loathing of their mother country.

collective intelligentsia stupidigentisa

AIR (Airlines in Retreat) has announced a hotline for airlines that feel they have been discriminated against by Muslim terrorists.

Call 1-800-ITS-AJOKE.

(credit for this to my hubby)

#43 Golem Akbar 12/13/2006 08:21AM PST

If discrimination against Muslims is racism, then discrimination against non-Muslims must also be racism. I get it.

A reasonable person couldn't argue with you. However, to everybody else, discrimination against Muslims is racism, and discrimination against non-Muslims is "tolerance" and "celebration of diversity".

If I call the tollfree number and tell they to F themselves, will I be charged with a hate crime?

Time to get the old modem out of the closet and fire up the auto dialer option on it. I wonder how much MA Bell is charging them for each call to their "800" line?

From CAIR's website:

KNOW YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS AS AN AIRLINE PASSENGER TOP

As an airline passenger, you are entitled to courteous, respectful and non-stigmatizing treatment by airline and security personnel. You have the right to complain about treatment that you believe is discriminatory. If you believe you have been treated in a discriminatory manner, immediately:

1. Ask for the names and ID numbers of all persons involved in the incident. Be sure to write this information down.

2. Ask to speak to a supervisor.

3. Ask if you have been singled out because of your name, looks, dress, race, ethnicity, faith, or national origin.

4. Ask witnesses to give you their names and contact information.

5. Write down a statement of facts immediately after the incident. Be sure to include the flight number, the flight date, and the name of the airline.

6. Contact CAIR to file a report. If you are leaving the country, leave a detailed message, with the information above at 202-488-8787.

7. Cry 'racism' in front of the press.

8. Seethe

CAIR is so concerned about an imminent plague of “Islamophobia” ...

Such CAIR activity may be the closest thing we have to an American Hiroshima Early Warning System.

Of course, with the Hajj coming up, it will soon be time to get the Hajj Stampede Bodycount Pool up and running.

Back online after 18 hours--comcast s*cks.
#26
Great article, maybe someone could forward it to the NYTimes. It may open some eyes.

/sarcasm

#60 Firebreather

America is fairly unique in the world in that its collective intelligentsia are united in loathing of their mother country.

Amazing to me that the left in this country is advocating for a group that would enslave their own leaders -- and especially women. It must be some kind of suicide impulse.

Thanks for the hat tip, Charles :)

Hat Tip Fu is in full form...

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If you are leaving the country, leave a detailed message, with the information above at 202-488-8787.”

And don't bother to come back.

The group has established a toll-free hot line (800/784-7526) for victims of “flying while Muslim,” as Muslims have begun departing for the weeklong hajj, a once-in-a-lifetime obligation to visit the holy city of Mecca, which this year begins Dec. 29.

These people would call - if they could.

#29 Killgore Trout

Peace Not Apartheid
/Peanut Farmer

ROFL. Jimmah's new business cards?

There are worse things than a Sunni-Shia Middle Eastern "civil" war. If the Saudis want to redirect moneys from funding hate-spewing madrassas in the West & South Asia towards killing Shia in Iraq & elsewhere, then good on them. If Iran wants to plunge money & manpower into killing Sunnis, that's their call.

A regional conflagration might keep them all occupied long enough to temporarily leave The West alone.

Their Western proxies, westernized Muslims who study in our universities & enjoy our affirmative action as privileged uber-citizens, may blow up our buses & malls, but a far larger strike may be delayed if the mad mullahs of the ME are too busy killing each other.

71 GA

It is a suicide impulse, they're not on the side of life and you can see after many years where that choice leads.

#48 Doss:

CAIR is trying to do a Hajjacking

I love it!

Trampling day is 12-30-06 this year.Anybody want to start a pool as to how many get trampled this year?

#12 Spenser (with an S)

Overplaying is exactly what this is - and pretty much what all this ummahfication stuff is all about anyway.

People are getting a tad bit tired of pre-emptive whining, and it's getting to the point where the coverage is intense enough that it's harder to get away with it.

CAIR is busily dragging their own reputation through the mud lately, and even the blinkered MSM is having a hard time ignoring their petulance, and now even their terror connections are becoming a subject for the roving reporter.

And juxtaposing "harassment" by airlines with the hajj, where dozens or hundreds are almost guaranteed to be trampled to death, is not a very good idea. Especially since more and more of their "internal rhetoric" is leaking out, as others start to follow MEMRI's lead.

No doubt one or more Western infiltrators will be at the hajj this year to hear what Mecca Street is saying - it's happened before without being widely reported, but now CAIR is shining the spotlight on the hajj.

In other words, tee hee hee.

You know, if America is so brutally represseive, secretive and all that, why hasn't the Bush Admin set up a false-front loudmouth Muslim organization to provide the "anti-apologist/anti-terror/pro-administration" POV?

You would think a dictator would do that. :)

anyone know if Roger L Simon is part of the new Politico online news website, or if it is a different Roger Simon?

From # 66 MJDHockeyFan's link:

As an airline passenger, you are entitled to courteous, respectful and non-stigmatizing treatment by airline and security personnel.

So Dougie, what are us Infidels entitled to from muslims?

I hate that entitled, victim mentality.

#59 ec marm Our friends the Saudi's said they'd back the Sunni's in Iraq......If our friend is friends with our enemy are we friends with our enemy to?

Charles bring up a great point; Why don't we just install "Muslim only" and "Obligatory for non-muslim" line in airports? That way we could accomodate their culture and increase airline security. Brilliant!

From the CAIR guide on what to do with a confrontation with a person, while not on the ground.

If you believe that you have been the victim of a hate crime, you should:

1. Report the crime to your local police station immediately. Ask that the incident be treated as a hate crime. Follow up with investigators.

Every thing is a hate incident to these people. Nothing but hate for non-muslims. This will hopefull backfire on them.

#26 Big

Well written article. Thanks for the link!

This one is funny:

"4. Ask witnesses to give you their names and contact information."

Supply your name and contact information to radical muslims so they can find you and kill you if you don't speak up on their behalf.

Ya... THAT's gonna happen.

#54 Ojoe
#40 WriterMom
The comment involved a thermonuclear device.

Any Moslem trampled during the Hajj...contact CAIR immediately....It is America's Fault

If you are leaving the country, leave a detailed message, with the information above at 202-488-8787

They forgot to list the instructions to direct a call:

If you were planning on killing Jews, press 1

If you were planning on killing other infidels, press 2

If you were traveling to meet with other conspirators, press 3

If you were conducting a dry run, press 4

If you were traveling for any other reason, press 5

4. Ask witnesses to give you their names and contact information

Yeah Abdul,I'll give you my name and address.

Intimidation!

Now the question, rather than "How many will die at the haji this year?" should be:

HOW TO COUNTER CAIR?

They have money and logistics; they have phone lines and lawyers. How do you react to that?

Collect charity donations and set up an association with its own tort lawyers, but with a non-PC, conservative bend?

Some will surely say "CAIR, Tree, Rope, some assembly required". But whatever the merits of that proposal, it is not feasible now.

CAIR's efforts reminds me of a poster I saw last night on the T in Boston, asking passengers (paraphrased) "Have you been searched or seen anyone searched?" Call the ACLU, or go to www.aclum.org.

The website is soliciting stories from passengers, suggesting "The MBTA bag searching policy is ineffective and can lead to serious rights abuses such as racial and ethnic profiling and harassment."

I call 45...

(Light year for stampeding...)

#79 ROPMA
I would never attempt to "guess" as to how many get trampled this year....

but I can "hope".....

all of them!

#86 Occasional Reader

Of course, with the Hajj coming up, it will soon be time to get the Hajj Stampede Bodycount Pool up and running.

I'll go with 400.

#71 Golem Akbar--

Yes, and not only women... but gays, minorities (religious & racial), artists, free speech advocates, educators... all would be enslaved under Islam.

And yet these very same groups are often found marching WITH the Islamists.

Look at the Jewish ADL marching in lockstep with CAIR over the Keith Ellison-Koran congressional swearing-in.

#80 Merovign,

Their annual trampling is just one more ritual human sacrifice to their pagan moon-god. As long as they are trampling or otherwise sacrificing other Mohammedans in Mecca then I'm OK with it.

It's when they bring their quaint rituals out of Mecca and start trying to kill the rest of us that I become concerned.

PS - Put me in the Trampling Pool for 1000. The Ummah is restless this year.

Everyone should see this is the safest time to fly,and all the radicals are on a suicide mission sabbath.(I hope that stirs the pot)

I see CAIR set up a hotline for "moderates" to call in and out the death loving jihadists.......... long pause.......NOT

#88 bweep

....and, would a British journalist have wept? :)

They will overplay their hand.

Where they are wrong, is the majority of the flying public, left or right, does not like the idea of going down in a plane crash around the holidays. We'll, let alone going down at all.

It proves the point from the last episode. Too many passengers has them in the cross-hairs.

What I think they will do, is only create an extra amount of scrutiny from the cohabitants of the flight, and not the airline.

I think the thought is always there and Beamer was the first of a long line who have decided they will not go down without a fight.

What will they do then?

D'oh, that last one was supposed to be to #68 Jammie Wearing Fool.

#88 bweep

Hmmm...did it rhyme with "puke Mecca"?

"Up your ass with broken glass ! "

The Chairman's canned response if asked to be a witness. All Lizards feel free to use as appropriate.

Muslims who travel to the religious apartheid kingdom of Saudi Arabia to take part in the Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca are being urged to complain about discrimination by the Council on American Islamic Relations.

Morons. How many people ar going to be crushed, burned, shot down by Saudi security forces, or blown up by terrorists this year I wonder?

Personally, I anticipate the death toll to be in the low hundreds.

#83 phoenixgirl
I'm probably not the best person to ask. I remember getting the boot out of a high school Psych class for suggesting that the best answer to gangs fighting each other was more weapons for both sides.
btw: "Civil War" - is that an oxymoron?

The reason CAIR & many western Muslims continue to cry racism & Islamophobia-- despite all evidence directly contradicting their claims-- is because this strategy is clearly working.

Every whine, every seethe, is accommodated.

We are all frogs in a cauldron. Society is becoming increasingly Islamized; slowly, incrementally, inexorably, we are being boiled alive.

Bwahahaha! Awesome.

This weekend my friends and I are going to get high and prank-call them until they give up.

#85 mattm

Every thing is a hate incident to these people. Nothing but hate for non-muslims. This will hopefull backfire on them.

Well, you know what they say. "Be the change you want to see in the world."

#92 FabioC.

HOW TO COUNTER CAIR?

Publicizing what they do seems to be working, albeit very slowly.

I think it's a matter of interesting the right newsmakers in what goes on behind closed doors, you know, getting news editors hooked on MEMRI and stuff like that.

#93 daughter of patriots

"Have you been searched or seen anyone searched?" Call the ACLU,

Somebody needs to pull the handle again on the ACLU, they've been swirling for years.

Institute for Justice, man, all the way. :)

Safest time to fly is Friday noon time

This is what they call in screenwriting "the payoff."

It follows "the setup," a small bit of seemingly inconsequential drama inserted earlier in the plot. The setup puts into place the pieces of an explosive, climactic confrontation that takes place later on.

These guys got almost everything right:

the timing -- close enough to our climax but not so close that the coming connection would be obvious

the scale -- small at first, huge later on

the setting -- Minnesota to Phoenix; who'd think that would be significant?

the cast -- six scholars; who could find a problem with learned, middle-aged men?

the audience reaction -- woops

WMAL (DC) has this poll today;

The Council on American-Islamic Relations is warning Muslims to be on the lookout for discrimination at airport security. Is it fair to subject American Muslims to extra security?

Yes it’s fair. All is fair in wartime. 58%
It’s not fair, but it is necessary. 33%
It’s not only unfair, it’s downright un-American. 9%

WMAL broadcasts inside/outside the DC Beltway.

Ah yes, the Hajj. Bringing love to the Sunni/Shiite family since the 800s. It'll be nice as the Shiite and Sunni leaders join hands in Kumbaya. /

Or is saying that hate speech?

The Hajj is so cool I wish they did it everyday!

#98 Iron Fist

Their annual trampling is just one more ritual human sacrifice to their pagan moon-god. As long as they are trampling or otherwise sacrificing other Mohammedans in Mecca then I'm OK with it.

Hey, privacy of their own insular repressive inbred sanctuaries, and all that.

How you been, anyway? You and I have both been a little scarce here some days.

PS - Put me in the Trampling Pool for 1000. The Ummah is restless this year.

My bet is on moderate-to-wide reportage of images and anecdotes from an "infiltrator" this year, non- or "moderate"-Muslim.

That's kind of like one of those New Year predictions they used to have when the Art Bell Show was actually not 100% Moonbat yet.

#107 ec marm

that's okay, I got wierd looks in a "Women's Studies" class because I admitted that I liked to serve my dad and brothers meals I had prepared for them willlingly.

Contact you neighborhood CAIR office and ask them to boycott flying:

CAIR-Arizona
Email: director@cairaz.org

CAIR-N. California (Bay Area) 408-986-9874
Email: nocal@cair.com

CAIR-Sacramento Valley 916-441-6269
Email: sacval@cair.com

CAIR-Southern California (LA) 714-776-1847
E-mail: socal@cair.com

CAIR-Connecticut 860-995-6628
Email: ct@cair-ct.com

CAIR-National 202-488-8787
Email: cair@cair-net.org

CAIR-Central Florida (Tampa) 813-514-1414
Email: tampa@cair-florida.org

CAIR-South Florida (Ft. Lauderdale) 954-272-0490
Email: info@cair-florida.org

CAIR-N. Georgia (Atlanta) 770-220-0082
Email: cair@cair-northgeorgia.org

CAIR-Chicago 312-212-1520
Email: director@cairchicago.org

CAIR-Kentucky 859-221-9081
Email: cairky@cairky.org

CAIR-Maryland/Virginia 301-986-1900
Email: rizwan@cairmd.org

CAIR-Michigan 248-569-2203
Email: cairmichigan@yahoo.com

CAIR-St. Louis 314-331-0344
cairstl@hotmail.com

CAIR-New Jersey 973-785-3050
cair@cair-nj.org

CAIR-New York 212-870-2002
E-mail: cair-ny@cair-ny.com

CAIR-Ohio (Cincinnati) 513-281-8200
Email: karen@cair-ohio.com

CAIR-Ohio (Cleveland) 216-830-2247
Email: Julia@cair-ohio.com

CAIR-Ohio (Columbus) 614-451-3232
Email: ohio@cair-net.org

CAIR-Canada 866-524-0004
E-mail: canada@cair-net.org

CAIR-Central Pennsylvania 717-730-4400
Email: samalik1@aol.com

CAIR-Philadelphia 215-896-4872
Email: cairphilly@yahoo.com

CAIR-South Carolina 803-233-1809
Email: cair-sc@cair-net.org

CAIR-Dallas/Ft. Worth 972-241-7233
E-mail: info@cairdfw.org

CAIR-Houston 713-838-2247
Email: iesa.galloway@cairhouston.org

CAIR-San Antonio 210-378-9528
Email: SanAntonio@cair-net.org

CAIR-Seattle 206-367-4081
Email: info@cair-seattle.org

As this obnoxious mob or idiots has been so thoughtful as to provide telephone numbers, it's time for CHRISTIANS to call those numbers and complain about rude, vulgar, crude, whiny, childish moo-slims that pollute the airlines with their camel smell.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm going to call that handy 800 number and order my Ginzu Steak knives, inquire about long-term-health-care, and order my complimentary credit report.

"You mean this isn't the 800 number for Harry & Davids?"

i tried to order a ham pizza. :) no luck.

#116 Merovign,

Hey, man! I'm doing fine. Thanks for asking. Hope you are well, also.

Predicting the Hajj is fun, in a twisted way. I wouldn't be surprised to see a car bomb or too. Those Muslims and their Semtex! Such a fun bunch!

:-)

Oh, you bad boyz, contemplating some prank calls.

As long as you do it from your Tracfones.

Oh, pranksters? Remember that an 800 line gets your phone number. I don't know what happens if you have blocked caller ID, but I think they still get your number.

So you might want to think about that.

#19 ec marm

The Haj, good times, I always enjoy the images self flagellation, myself.(not)

Your link is to a site about Ashura, which is not "celebrated" at the Hajj. Ashura sword flailings don't come until around Jan. 29, 2007 this time around. It's always the 10th of Muharram in their calendar, while the Hajj begins on the 8th of Dhu al-Hijjah.

Also, that quote about al-Hussain is from the hadiths, not the koran. I'm not trying to nit-pick you to death, just abiding by LGF's old motto.

#119

No, no, no. That would only play in their hands.

Either you go prank all the way (like, asking if you can rent some porn DVD), or if you call CAIR to protest it must be done in a polite manner.

3. Ask if you have been singled out because of your name, looks, dress, race, ethnicity, faith, or national origin.

"You've been singled out because you're an asshole, sir."

#105 Chairman Mow

I'm more likely to pull a Frank Nelson impersonation.

"Well, what do I look like, a frozen dinner?"

"OOOOOOoooooh! I REALLY want to help YOU!"

google for '"frank nelson" sarcastic'. Man was a great in the old Jack Benny radio days.

#114 Golem Akbar

Ah yes, the Hajj. Bringing love to the Sunni/Shiite family since the 800s. It'll be nice as the Shiite and Sunni leaders join hands in Kumbaya.

Yes, I always wondered how many of those trampling deaths were accidental...

Keep it up CAIR.....soon there will be a serious backlash.

I hope the people who go to the Hajj get serious inspection. Lightening up on these inspections now would be very dangerous to the country.

We are all frogs in a cauldron. Society is becoming increasingly Islamized; slowly, incrementally, inexorably, we are being boiled alive

CORRECT.

and the only way to stop it is to either jump out of the pot ( mission to mars?) or ...

turn the pot over and spill the water, cut off the heat at the source and stand guard over it from now on with a firehose full of cold water.

TIP the pot. I'm ready.

Don't forget that CAIR is doing this so that airlines will not catch terrorists.

actually, the # to call may be 202-488-8787

6. Contact CAIR to file a report. If you are leaving the country, leave a detailed message, with the information above at 202-488-8787.

here you may leave a detailed message (your sentiments) on their recorder. Be certain to dial *67 prior, in order to block your phone # from their display.

SAVE THE WORLD
BE ANTI-MUSLIM

how's that for a nice bumper sticker?

its not a hotline the waaaaaaaaah line.
question
can anyone call the number from like a pay phone?

/just askin

I'm going to call to complain about the rude service I received at my local mini-mart. I'll claim it was discrimination because I didn't smell of humus.

Imans on a Plane: Part II: The Hajj

also considered:

Imans Gone Wild

Just asking,

why would any non muslim ever want to go to this shithole, a place the muslims themselves run away from as if from leprosy?

#122 Iron Fist

Hey, man! I'm doing fine. Thanks for asking. Hope you are well, also.

Takin' that hill one bloody handful of dirt at a time. :)

Predicting the Hajj is fun, in a twisted way. I wouldn't be surprised to see a car bomb or too. Those Muslims and their Semtex! Such a fun bunch!

Nah, they have pretty good security on the way in.

But remember that cheap chop saki psuedo-Kung-Fu on the Iranian Space Jew movie?

I can just see Mecca's Hajj Season rewritten like Kung Fu Hustle. Sends me over all funny. :)

What is Mecca like in the off season, anyway? I keep getting this picture of a few maintenance and janitorial staff wandering around an empty Great America, polishing the trash cans.

"We've got muthafuckin' imams on this muthafuckin' plane!"

Oh boy, that's catchy.

sorry...

Not shithole. Racist shithole.

My bad. Their worse.

#133 Owl--

I'm still waiting to see ONE bumper sticker that denounces Islamic terrorism.

Seen thousands that denounce Bush, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Halliburton, the "Christian Right."

Never seen one denouncing Iran or Saudi Arabia or bin Laden or Islam.

Not even one.

51 No limit

I nominate

"What most logical folks are thinking, but cannot yet say."

for a rotating title.

Hell, lets make CAIR honest! Take them from "pretend victims" to honest to God victims? Try as they might (CAIR) nobody really gives a shit.

#26 BIG

But where were the news conferences, the rallies to protest the endless litany of atrocities performed by people who act supposedly in my religion's name? Where are the denunciations, not against terrorism in the abstract, but clear denunciations of al-Qaida or Hamas, of Wahhabism or militant Islamism, of Darfurian genocide or misogyny and honor killings, to name a few? There is no cry, there is no rage. At best, there is the most tepid of disclaimers. In short, there is no passion. But for victimization, always.

This guy's gonna get fatwa'd.

3. Ask if you have been singled out because of your name, looks, dress, race, ethnicity, faith, or national origin.

Being "singled out" for your behavior - Inconceivable.

102 formercorpsman

I'm right in line behind Beamer & I've never been in the Military & I have a ponytail & I'm a guy & I'm a peace-and-love hippie.

These fizzlamics have no idea how the deck is stacked against them

OK Bumpersticker —

Visualize No Islam

Who do I call to complain about that?

1-800/B52-BUFF

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4. Ask witnesses to give you their names and contact information.

What are they gonna do when the eyewitnesses (the other passengers) all support the airline?

Today's heaviest rain stays mainly North of Sacramento, the weekend Super-Mega storm is still a little unclear on path, but GFS path would bring some ok rains to the Sac Valley, and while snow levels start high, cold air moves in with intense upper low

Some acronyms to cope with the imminent conquest:

SWF - Studying While Female

HFWH - Having Fun While Human

EWG - Existing While Gay

WDTSMYOBWK - Walking Down The Street Minding Your Own Business While Kaffir

#125 Tasty Beverage
You are absolutely right, I was hasty, and wrong on those counts. I was basing the timing on my own memory of years past. It seemed the two were part of the same event.
The images, of course, are accurate.

Great for the heads up on what information NOT to give them. Like I would give a muslim my contact info. RIGHT.. ANyone who would report them would never give them their personal info.

#141 Firebreather - I've seen Alaska "terrorist hunting licences" on cars - and quite a few, to my delight.

Body counts at the Hajj:

Stampedes:

1990 : 1,426
1994 : 270
1998 : 118
2001 : 35
2003 : 14
2004 : 251
2006 : 346 (plus 76 - hotel collapse)

Fires:
1975 : 200
1997 : 343

Protests and riots:
1979 : 250
1987 : 400
1989 : 1 (plus 16 beheaded.)

'Following the 2004 stampede, Saudi authorities embarked on major construction work in and around the Jamarat Bridge area.

Additional accessways, footbridges, and emergency exits were built, and the three cylindrical pillars were replaced with longer and taller oblong walls of concrete to enable more pilgrims simultaneous access to them without the jostling and fighting for position of recent years.

The government has also announced a multi-million-dollar project to expand the bridge to five levels; the project is planned for completion in time for the 1427 AH (Dec. 2006 – Jan. 2007) Hajj.'
// Wikipedia

. Based on the legendary Saudi efficiency, and the high ambient seethe level of the ummah, I'm going with:

2007 : 381

To enter your own wager, just call 800/784-7526.

Operators are standing by.

#142 Ojoe

51 No limit

I nominate

"What most logical folks are thinking, but cannot yet say."

for a rotating title.

Thank you, yet I think Poitiers-Lepanto's is far more creative.

57 Poitiers-Lepanto

#51 Nolimit

Well, that could be a sub-clause of the Iron Fist Rule:

"If you wonder if what you want to post cannot yet be said, it cannot yet be said."

Be polite and don't forget to wish them a "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Hanukkah" when you say good-bye. I am certain they'll appreciate your kind gesture!

157 nolimit

Then if you don't wonder anymore, It is OK to post.

(That's how we make progress toward the truth.)

01/27/07 TSA learns of plot by muslims terrorists to destroy 2 passenger flights by flying them into Mount Rushmore.

01/30/07 TSA develops plan to thwart this event.

Step One. Acquire two aircraft scheduled for destruction, yet are still worthy for short flights. Prepare aircraft to be flown by remote control

02/12/07 Plan is implemented

Step Two. Reroute all muslim "passengers" to one airport and then aboard the two planes.

Step Three. Use manniquines to simulate the flight crew, with recordings coming from their mouths. All females on crew will be in full a-rab rags

Step Four. Once both planes are filled, automated take-off and flight procedures implemented.

Step Five. At expected time, terrorists storm plane's cockpit, where the door was "accidentally" left ajar by one of the flight crew. Terrorist fight to take control from manniquines. Takes them half an hour to realize they are fighting dummies.

Step Six. Automated programs have two aircraft well out over Atlantic. Terrorists think; this isn't the way to Mount Rushmore.

Step Seven. Terrorists finally realize that only passengers on two planes are muslims and wonder how to defuse their bombs. Realization hits hard, no can do.

Step Eight. Horrendous explosion occurs over Atlantic. Much larger than terrorists bombs could cause. TSA has added addition explosives aboard. Hundreds of bodies fall from above into Atlantic. Sharks swarm the bodies. Several bite into the muslims only to spit out the foul tasting rot and swim away.

Sharks think, "you can't fool mother nature".

Bumper stickers...

"Kill Terrorist, Save the Whales."

"Smoke Camels, Save NY"

"For the Children, Glass Tehran"

"Terror is not a family Value"

"ROP is Terror."

"CAIR = Terroist"

"Free Iran"

"Free Arabia"

"Free Syria"

"Free Islam"

"Go Crusaders!"

#130 Owl

Right. I'm right behind you. Where do we start? (elections didn't do it...)

Step Three. Use manniquines to simulate the flight crew, with recordings coming from their mouths. All females on crew will be in full a-rab rags

Use hollywood FX to make dummies out of pork products

#160 lone some

Step Seven. Terrorists finally realize that only passengers on two planes are muslims and wonder how to defuse their bombs. Realization hits hard, no can do.

Don't forget to add: Sense of doom sinks in as Muslims realize they ommitted learning how to land planes.

160-- rather elaborate fantasy there.

Also likely to be used as an example at KoS and LGFW about what knuckle-draggers they have here.

Bumperstickers

ROP ?

STOP SHARIA

ROP - who are you kidding?

Who's running the betting pool for Hajj trampling?

I urge everyone to call CAIR's hotline immediately and complain about something. Also email USAIR and tell them how happy u r with their handling of the MSP airport incident and how they stood behind their employees decision to kick the 6 snakes off the plane.
[Link: www.usairways.com...]

#165 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

Also likely to be used as an example at KoS and LGFW about what knuckle-draggers they have here.

Yes- but if it's a knuckle-dragger calling you a knuckle-dragger, does it count?

when calling their 800 complaint line don't forget to use a pay phone as all toll free numbers get the calling number automaticallly

Where do I go to report this?

[Link: www.islam-qa.com...]

" Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/438

Insulting the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is one of the worst of forbidden actions, and it constitutes kufr and apostasy from Islam, according to scholarly consensus, whether done seriously or in jest. The one who does that is to be executed even if he repents and whether he is a Muslim or a kaafir. If he repents sincerely and regrets what he has done, this repentance will benefit him on the Day of Resurrection and Allaah will forgive him. "

rush is ranting on this

#171 Chyron

Where do I go to report this?

[Link: [Link: www.islam-qa.com...]...]

" Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/438

Insulting the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is one of the worst of forbidden actions, and it constitutes kufr and apostasy from Islam, according to scholarly consensus, whether done seriously or in jest. The one who does that is to be executed even if he repents and whether he is a Muslim or a kaafir. If he repents sincerely and regrets what he has done, this repentance will benefit him on the Day of Resurrection and Allaah will forgive him. "

1-800/B52-BUFF

My theory is that this will be used as (1) retaliation for normal poor service; or (2) out and out false reports in order to make money on bogus civil rights disputes.

[Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com...]

#173 American Soldier 12/13/2006 09:55AM PST

Who does that number call?

I heard Rush talking about this. I wish he'd give out their number so the hotline melts and they one bigass bill.

3. Ask if you have been singled out because of your name, looks, dress, race, ethnicity, faith, or national origin.

What's missing from that list?

(Hint: sex, sexual orientation)

#173 American Soldier

OT, but I guess I owe the Rabbi an apology (re the Sea-Tac airport). Suckered by the MSM again. I feel stupid.

how about this bumper sticker ?

KNOW ISLAM = NO PEACE, NO ISALM = KNOW PEACE

I called the 800 number and told the lady who picked up how thrilled I was that U.S. AIR took those muslims off the plane. she hung up on me.

If he repents sincerely and regrets what he has done, this repentance will benefit him on the Day of Resurrection and Allaah will forgive him.

What more can you ask for?

/

Release Intellectually Honest Moonbats Into The Realm.

Victims rule #1 Be extra pitiful if your case sucks.

#175 Chyron
BUFF= Big Ugly Fat Fucker, aka B-52 Bomber. Not as sexy as a Lancer, but they get the job done. Apparently, every airframe still flying is older than its aircrew. [Link: www.af.mil...]
/my favorite way to fly these days is when USAF's paying for the gas

#178 Earth2moonbat
Happens to all of us from time to time. We want to believe that MSM are truthful Americans. The truth is too painful.

Insulting the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is one of the worst of forbidden actions, and it constitutes kufr and apostasy from Islam, according to scholarly consensus, whether done seriously or in jest. The one who does that is to be executed even if he repents and whether he is a Muslim or a kaafir.

Are not most all Lizards proud to be targeted? I am!

F.. you Mohammad

#179 indigo710

I called the 800 number and told the lady who picked up how thrilled I was that U.S. AIR took those muslims off the plane. she hung up on me.

LOL

#180 nolimit 12/13/2006 10:09AM PST

Conceivably to keep my head on my shoulders, or to not have fast-moving rocks come into contact with my body.

But, American Soldier, who's number did you give me? I'm wary to call phone numbers when I don't know where I'm calling.

#181 seejanemom

You missed one of their newest tactics. If you don't want to debate an issue, declare that there's a consensus among the experts, and then brand skeptics as "denyers".

The Super CIAR Song
[Link: www.cruxy.com...]
and Imams on a Plane
[Link: www.cruxy.com...]

#183 nolimit

Insulting the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is one of the worst of forbidden actions, and it constitutes kufr and apostasy from Islam, according to scholarly consensus, whether done seriously or in jest. The one who does that is to be executed even if he repents and whether he is a Muslim or a kaafir.

Are not most all Lizards proud to be targeted? I am!

F.. you Mohammad

If you're already condemned, ya might as well enjoy yourself.
[Link: dashboardmohammed.com...]

#185 Chyron

6. Contact CAIR to file a report. If you are leaving the country, leave a detailed message, with the information above at 202-488-8787.”

#185 Chyron

But, American Soldier, who's number did you give me? I'm wary to call phone numbers when I don't know where I'm calling.

It's a joke, son, just a joke. 'Though it ought to be a USAF phone number-
"When it absolutely has to be leveled overnight- 1-800-B52-BUFF. Glassed over in 30 minutes or the next nuke's free."

#190 American Soldier
Just for the record, I just called 1800-B52-BUFF. The number is already taken, by a phone sex line that seems to cater to fantasies about dark-skinned women.
Dang! It would have been perfect for the Air Scouts........

#189 nolimit 12/13/2006 10:19AM PST

Well, I was more looking for a contact person who would do something about it, besides call me an Islamophobe.

#190 American Soldier 12/13/2006 10:21AM PST

How could you play with my emotions?!

Now I'm a sad panda.

I think all Christians and Jews should call the number and complain about not being able to get into mecca.

Don't know if this means anything, but the phone number 800-784-7526 spells 1-800-78-ISLAM

What does 78 mean in Islam?

I think we neeed to institute a new rule for airline travel: If you come from a culture too primitive to build airplanes, you can't fly on one.
Sure it will take a bit longer to get to the Middle East by dow, but the longer ocean passage will give ample time to pursue the 'ol inner struggle.

800-784-7526 also spells 1-800-RUG-PLAN.

What are they planning on doing after bowing on their rugs?

#194 What does 78 mean in Islam?

Death to America?

or the number of virgins ?

#194 aishel

What does 78 mean in Islam?

Extra-virgin oil?

Apparently, you can call 1-800-78-ISLAM to request a free Koran:

Half way down this pageit says this:
"To request a Qur'an, call 1-800-78-ISLAM or visit [Link: www.explorethequran.org."...]

7. Act suspiciously so as to encourage discrimination. Roam around aircraft.
8. If the facts don't fit, make some up. Say you were handcuffed and beaten

.

1. Ask for the names and ID numbers of all persons involved in the incident. Be sure to write this information down.

"Yeah, my name is Gaffak Yusef and my ID # is 4Q-N-DA-AZZ"

5 Occasional Reader 12/13/2006 08:01AM

as Muslims have begun departing for the weeklong hajj, a once-in-a-lifetime obligation to visit the holy city of Mecca

Ah, the Hajj... so, how many trampling deaths are expected this year?

C'mon, give them credit. At least they throw stones at a rock called satan.

Religious fanatics make unreasonable demands, blackmail airline.

"They get special meals, seats far from potentially offensive in-flight films, access to religious readings and informal prayer meetings normally allowed to continue undisturbed."

#204 Quando
Your stupidity is apparently boundless. But I find it encouraging that your Special Ed class affords you web access.

I also learned in my special ed class that religious groups sometimes have special needs, particularly when living in a secular society.
And don't tell me "jews didn't hijack planes on 9/11, blah bllah blah" because niether did any of the 3-5 millions Muslims currently living in america.

19 ec marm 12/13/2006 08:09AM PST

The Haj, good times, I always enjoy the images self flagellation, myself.

Good link. I didn't know they got that from the Christian Filipinos, though./ "Is this you call Islaam?" - lol.

I just called the number to request a free koran , they said I would have to go to their website because they need information for the shipping charges. I said im not going to pay shipping charges for what I thought was going to be high end kindling. they hung up on me again. these people are so touchy.

I didn't know they got that from the Christian Filipinos

try European Catholics (nice color shot)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

48 Doss from your link:

1968: The first Arab-Israeli hijacking, as three members of Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) hijack an El Al plane to Rome. Diverting to Algiers the negotiations extend over forty days. Both the hijackers and the hostages go free. This was the first and the only successful hijacking of an El Al flight.

(emphasis mine)

194

What does 78 mean in Islam?

P-U

/sorry if I've repeated someone else's; I'm way behind today

I remember us American Citzens used to have the Rights and Protections afforded us by the founding fathers.
Now only radical leftist and muslims have those rights.
When something was said or done that was offensive,we didnt call the Aclu.
When the elected officials crossed the line,they were called on the carpet.
Prayer in school is forbid,but they teach the Qur'an.
Christmas is a dirty word,and christians are the bad people.

I want our country back !

Forget IRAQ,the Civil war should be here and now!

#194 -

78 could mean 7 eight-year-old virgins...

81 SlothB77 12/13/2006 08:40AM PST

anyone know if Roger L Simon is part of the new Politico online news website, or if it is a different Roger Simon?

Someone who posted last night said be sure to get the "l" in there. There's a difference.

83 #83 phoenixgirl 12/13/2006

#59 ec marm Our friends the Saudi's said they'd back the Sunni's in Iraq......If our friend is friends with our enemy are we friends with our enemy to?

I guess you'd call it a love/hate relationship.

#206 Quando

And don't tell me "jews didn't hijack planes on 9/11, blah bllah blah" because niether did any of the 3-5 millions Muslims currently living in america.

1. Why do you capitalize "muslims" and not "Jews"?

2. What on earth does that have to do with the price of peanuts in Trinidad?

It was a typo, I also didnt cap America (oooooooo, he hates America too!)

And it has to do with the fact that no one here gets their red, white and blue panties in a bunch over Jewish people demanding special treatment, but mozlems! Oh no! It must be a plot to help get bombs on planes!

C'mon AIRLINES! If my public transit bus has a video/audio recorder in it to help identify troublemakers, how much harder to put them aboard aircraft? Hello? Anyone out there? A thousand bucks a plane for video surveillance? I don't think many people would complain, besides the far left.

Why isn't this being done?

130 Owl 12/13/2006 09:06AM PST

We are all frogs in a cauldron. Society is becoming increasingly Islamized; slowly, incrementally, inexorably, we are being boiled alive

CORRECT.

and the only way to stop it is to either jump out of the pot ( mission to mars?) or ...

turn the pot over and spill the water, cut off the heat at the source and stand guard over it from now on with a firehose full of cold water.

TIP the pot. I'm ready

.
Trouble is, the frogs in pot#2 got to see what happened to the frogs in pot#1. They say frogs are stupid but this frog isn't that stupid.

#219 HappyGoLucky

I agree 100%. It would kill frivcilous law suits and protect the Air Marshalls and airline staff just like cop car cameras do.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a video of any and all alleged "civil rights violations" of flying while muslim. We already know most of those that would call in an incident will lie like an imam. So use videotape and catch these guys in their lies.

Wouldn't it have been great to have video of the six imams doing their hokey-pokey onboard to show on the news everytime they claim discrimination?

PIMF frivolous

Setup the video and audio to digitally record to the "black box". Won't help those who go down in planes, but it would sure take the wind out of the naysayers who say "oh they weren't muslim!"

#218 Quando

And it has to do with the fact that no one here gets their red, white and blue panties in a bunch over Jewish people demanding special treatment, but mozlems! Oh no! It must be a plot to help get bombs on planes!

That's exactly the point. When has a Jew ever hijacked, much less bombed or deliberately crashed an airplane?

Hmm?

I'm waiting for an affermative answer......

And don't even try to say that muslims never did any of those things.

Quando, you seem bent on typecasting everyone as bigots for distrusting CAIR and Islam generally. Some are, but I'm afraid you don't understand the supremacist dichotomy that CAIR represents. In fairness there is a lot more detail that isn't covered by these numerous references to Muslims as if they were homogeneous, and I respect your sensitivity, but CAIR is a fighting force, not your average ethnic advocacy group. Either you believe their propaganda or you see it for what it is. Don't expect much leeway for your bog-standard moral indignation.

#218 Quando 12/13/2006 11:25AM PST

And it has to do with the fact that no one here gets their red, white and blue panties in a bunch over Jewish people demanding special treatment, but mozlems! Oh no! It must be a plot to help get bombs on planes!

If you think the whole "Flying Imams" incident was being attacked here because they wanted 'special treatment', you need to reread most of the articles linked to the story. Check the 'facts'.

On a sidenote, I don't really agree with Jews get any treatment either. But you might look into whether their employees are likewise unable to work on the Sabbath, or if people even have a problem that they're not open that day.

#219 HappyGoLucky 12/13/2006 11:26AM PST

I'm not sure, but they could be one of those devices that interfere with plane electronics. It may just not be feasible to do something like you suggest.

Apologies if this has been said previously, but methinks we could use a similar sign at airport and other transportation security checkpoints...

#218 quando

Exactly what "special treatment" are Jews "demanding"?. Be specific, give examples and cite sources.

#228 Chyron

On a sidenote, I don't really agree with Jews get any treatment either.

Check the troll's link. It was about El Al, and El Al only. Hardly a general demand across the industry for special treatment.

One of the most fun songs I've ever written for LGF - with apologies to Tommy and the Who of Course...

Ever since I was a young pup
I've run and played them all
From car swarms to Pamplona
I must have seen them all
But I ain't seen nothing like this sh*t
How many of them got to fall?
Those crazy f*kin' Muslims
Sure play a mean pinball

They march around a statue
Ain't nothing 'bout it clean
Groping for some tittie
Treat their women like Holstens
They worship superstition
Their buildings start to fall
But those crazy f*kin' Muslims
They sure play a mean pinball

They're the pinball wizards
got their panties in a twist
Their pinball wizards
Those Jews, they must be dissed

Why do you think they do it?
(I don't know)
What makes them so dumb?

They ain't got no attractions
Still getting blown to hell
Mahmoud saw lights a flashin'
That's napalm there you smell
Anyone want to see a replay
Will let Mahmoud make the call
But those crazy f*kin' Muslims
Sure play a mean pinball

I thought I'd seen it all
From the valley of kings
Bottom of the pile
must be an awfully painful thing

At Satan's usual table
He still does one thing best
Mo's disciples lead him in
And he just does the rest
He flips them all the finger
Like dominoes they all start to fall
Those crazy f*kin' Muslims
Sure play a mean pinball

165 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades 12/13/2006 09:44AM PST

160-- rather elaborate fantasy there.

Also likely to be used as an example at KoS and LGFW about what knuckle-draggers they have here.

Sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the rock.

And don't tell me "jews didn't hijack planes on 9/11, blah bllah blah" because niether did any of the 3-5 millions Muslims currently living in america.

Nice circular logic there. There isn't a Muslim alive on this planet who has carried out a successful suicide attack, right?

indigo710, he linked an article about some charedi Jews outraged that El Al flew on shabbat.

#206 odnauq (odd knock),

You're as backwards as your brother Gordon. Your name even sounds like Nodrog too...

#234 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

That's what I was driving at when I asked what it had to do with the price of peanuts in Trinidad, but I was so breathless from the illogic of it, I couldn't quite put that into words.

#235 Dom

And they were going to hijack the planes and crash them into building if they didn't get their way, right?

/

180 nolimit 12/13/2006 10:09AM PST

If he repents sincerely and regrets what he has done, this repentance will benefit him on the Day of Resurrection and Allaah will forgive him.

What more can you ask for?

And Allaah knows best.

#235 Dom
Thank you for the response.

#231 Earth2moonbat 12/13/2006 11:39AM PST

I needed some qualifier to not just be written off as some hypocritical bigot. I KNEW it wasn't a government or nation-wide policy.

Earth2moonbat,

That's exactly what they were going to do, and then they wanted to establish a khalifah and wait for the 12th Imam.

You're welcome indigo710.

My Suggestion: Get a one way ticket to Mecca, and STAY THERE.

165 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades 12/13/2006 09:44AM PST

160-- rather elaborate fantasy there.

Also likely to be used as an example at KoS and LGFW about what knuckle-draggers they have here.

Sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the rock.

I like thoze Geico cave man commercials.

#206 Quando

And don't tell me "jews didn't hijack planes on 9/11, blah bllah blah" because niether did any of the 3-5 millions Muslims currently living in america.

Respect this person, everyone. This is a master troll at work. You showed great form weaseling the language. While the hijackers were living in America, they are no longer currently living.

Do you chase ambulences for a living?

245 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades 12/13/2006 11:58AM PST

Sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the rock.

I like thoze Geico cave man commercials.

"Sorry we couldn't get to those sooner." lol

"Do you chase ambulences for a living?"

Lol, not yet. I graduate from lawschool in May.

Quando, the reason you had to say "blah blah blah" is because it would take a page to fill in the rest: Beheading girls, Spain, London, Achille Lauro, Munich Olympics, Black September- "blah blah blah".

When I returned Stateside from Israel after a three-year residency, I was questioned at some length by immigration. Questions about the nature of the length of my stay, and what I occupied myself with while I was there, and if I traveled outside of Israel while absent from the US. I was at the time a blond haired (now gray) blued eyed 10th generation Scott-Welsh-German-Jewish-Cherokee-American and had no reason to find their questioning unreasonable. I must of fit some kind of profile due to my passport stamps and time out of country. So What? They were checking to see what my reactions were and if I needed to have a closer inspection of my person and baggage. Since I was coming in from a three-day layover in Amsterdam and my passport stamps over the years showed visits to Eastern Africa and Old East-Bloc Countries and the Ukraine they probably imagined me to be some kind of professional courier. They eventually let me enter the country without being searched or deeply interrogated in any further form once they felt confidant that I didn't have diamonds or heroin shoved up my tucchus. I wasn't illegally importing anything and had nothing to hide, therefore, my calmness of demeanor, respect for their office, and cooperation didn't cause them to suspect that I was hiding anything, regardless of my profile. This is what they do when someone's travels raise a flag of caution, they then put the person under scrutiny to see how they respond, thus not having to go over everyone with a fine tooth comb who meets a certain "travel" profile. Notice I said, "travel" and not 'ethnic' profile. In fact, I expected to have a bit more difficult time clearing because of my travel profile.

Now, given (no offense intended to the religious among us)that mostly very devout and not lukewarm or “moderate” Muslims make Hajj, and the more religiously devout you are, the more prone you may be to fanaticism in the case of any person of any particular religious bent, then a little extra time asking questions of people traveling to the KoSA during Hajj is in order. If you think that this reasoning is out of line take into consideration the above description of my ethnicity and the following verbal exchange I had during my aforementioned reentry to the USA. When I told the Immigration Agent that, “I was in Israel doing work of a religious nature”, in response to his inquiry about why I was there, he queried further, asking, “what kind”? I responded, “volunteer work”. They then asked where and with what organization, and upon answering these and other questions of a (to me) highly personal but, not inappropriate nature considering that the security of my country was the issue at hand, I was stamped admitted allowed to proceed without further issue.

Due to this and other experiences I have reentering the USA since having returned from my extended absence of residency in 1994, (I get scrutinized every time now) I feel that I am not totally unqualified to say, "eff these eefin’, seething people". They do not winge, bitch, and moan, seethe, and threaten out of a sense of their rights being violated or some sensitivities slighted. They are trying to subvert and thus render our already too soft due to PC issues security measures into a less effective system than it already is, thus making it easier for them to engage in their nefarious intents. Anyone who thinks of “feels” otherwise is either a fool or a subversive of a different order.

It has been said here before, "When the Wahabbists allow the corner stone of the first church of many to follow in Muslim lands to be laid in Mecca, I will then consider them as equals among men", i.e.: Human and not parochial, chauvinistic, savages bent on domination of their perceived inferiors. Eff 'em until

3. Ask if you have been singled out because of your name, looks, dress, race, ethnicity, faith, or national origin.

So, under that wide criteria, who then can be taken aside and questioned / turned over to authorities?

Why not just add "carbon-based life forms who have one head and who inhale oxygen" to that list?

A lot of good their list would do.

4. Ask witnesses to give you their names and contact information.

What for retaliation? I wouldn't want these people knowing where I live.

1. Ask for the names and ID numbers of all persons involved in the incident. Be sure to write this information down.

2. Ask to speak to a supervisor.

3. Ask if you have been singled out because of your name, looks, dress, race, ethnicity, faith, or national origin.

4. Ask witnesses to give you their names and contact information.

5. Write down a statement of facts immediately after the incident. Be sure to include the flight number, the flight date, and the name of the airline.

6. Contact CAIR to file a report. If you are leaving the country, leave a detailed message, with the information above at 202-488-8787.”

7. Detonate

#219 HappyGoLucky

C'mon AIRLINES! If my public transit bus has a video/audio recorder in it to help identify troublemakers, how much harder to put them aboard aircraft? Hello? Anyone out there? A thousand bucks a plane for video surveillance? I don't think many people would complain, besides the far left.

Why isn't this being done?

I think you may have been going rhetorical, but right now I'm working on some software for a non-critical information display for the 787 Dreamliner. Extrapolating from this project, I can tell you it would be much more expensive than "a thousand bucks a plane for video surveillance." Every piece of electronic equipment has to be approved by the FAA; we've got six engineers working full time (at a decent hourly rate) just on generating and reviewing documents for the FAA, and that's just documents for the SOFTWARE. That doesn't include the cost of development, testing, manufacturing, installation...and you have to do all that for the hardware, too!

I don't even want to know how many man-hours of "generating documentation for the FAA" goes into a CRITICAL piece of electronics. And I'm sure there are other issues with design and placement in the airplane body that I'm not aware of (my experience is software, not avionics).

And that's before you add in the legal costs of dealing with the nitwits who think it's wrong to videotape someone committing a crime. Feh.

It's actually a good idea, and I'd rather my "Sept 11 tax" on each ticket go to offsetting the R&D costs of surveillance systems than to those fascist bastards at the TSA strip-searching octogenarians so they can't be accused of profiling terrorists, but unfortunately it's not as easy as slapping some video cameras next to the reading lights.

Looks like the troll checked in, but didn't answer the question (#225). Ever notice how trolls don't answer hard questions?

Oh yeah...

As an airline passenger, you are entitled to courteous, respectful and non-stigmatizing treatment

I just read in the paper today that Muslims in Turkey banned Winnie the Pooh cartoons several months ago because Piglet is in it.

Don't they consider dogs unclean as well? If so, do they ban Snoopy, Lassie, and Benji?

It they consider a cartoon pig stigmatizing, I can't take their other complaints seriously.

OT - Muslim in Australia kills wife because daughter plans to become Christian: [Link: www.pakistanchristianpost.com...]

"It is the Islamic way that if a son or daughter does or plans to do something that is unacceptable or wrong for a Muslim then it is the mother who is automatically at fault and will bear the brunt of the blame," the source said.

257 mjazzguitar

But..but..but...there has to be at least a million muslims who didn't kill their wives because of a sibling becoming Christian.

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The crib sheet for Muslims on how to harass the airlines appears to be lifted directly from a CAIR Know Your Rights Pocket Guide (brochure), except for re-ordering first 3 of the 6 items.

#218 Quando

And it has to do with the fact that no one here gets their red, white and blue panties in a bunch over Jewish people demanding special treatment, but mozlems! Oh no! It must be a plot to help get bombs on planes!

Would you mind being specific about Jewish people demanding things? Like what? I've never heard of Jews demanding that restaurants stop serving pork, never heard of Orthodox Jews demanding sensitivity training to the non-Jew; demanding special rooms to pray in, or acting like thugs then suing...really can't figure out what you were trying to say.

When was the last time you read about Jews honor killing their daughters, mutilating the genitals of their young girls, beheading non-Jews or using planes to blow innocent people up?

Oh, you haven't read any of those things...

There should be more TV documentaries on this stuff, including a major expose on CAIR. More people need to know that CAIR is on the front lines of jihad, using tried-and-true social manipulation techniques which the Left has refined since the 60s.

ACLUCAIR - could be the name for a skin care medicine. (caution: may cause pubescent muslim males to explode.)

I forgot to comment on the picture. Really interesting that the Black Nation of Islam isn't saying anything about that sign. Hasn't been that long since they had to sit in the back of the bus.

Now they're embracing a religion that is to the tenth power worse than any treatment they received here in the U.S. (Attention trolls: I am NOT saying slavery wasn't that bad.)

Liberals fail to see the threat here, most likely cause they themselves would love to wield that type of power: "You disagreein' with me? Off with your head!" "You a Christian? You can only drive in the slow lane."

Yeah, that sounds like the libs.

#260 ladycatnip

Don't bother. The troll was trying to say that Orthodox Jews objecting to El Al flying on Saturdays was the same thing as muslims flying airplanes into buildings killing 1000s.

Not being honest.

ladycatnip
Quando was attempting to make a (very weak) point by comparing apples to tangerines.

260 Ladycatnip check out his post at 203.

I planted catnip once and I couldn't figure out why it looked like something kept vandalizing my plants...

#264 Earth2moonbat

Thanks for the heads-up. Silly me, shoulda known better - you can't reason with liberals.

Would love to do a medical MRI study on the brains of conservatives vs. the brains of liberals. I'm sure there would be a brain-disorder diagnosis somewhere in there.

I don't know why, but as soon as I looked at that number, I got a nearly irresistable urge to call and say something sarcastic.

#203 & #266 mjazzguitar,

Of course the source comes from the most anti-Israel media possible; secondly, the demands are made to El Al, which happens to be JEWISH.

These demands aren't being made to the Gentile airlines; neither are they demanding airlines from other nations stop flying on their Sabbath, or demanding Jet Blue provide separate prayer rooms, wholesome entertainment, etc.

So, I agree with #264 Earth2moonbat, that there's no point in discussing this because he can't even make a proper moral equivalent.

#267 mjazzguitar,

That's because catnip is in the mint family and takes over everything in your garden if you let it. Best to plant it in a large plastic container that you sink in the ground. Won't go very far that way.

Some "Jews" actually attended the Holocaust denial conference it Iran.

271 ladycatnip
No, it finally dawned on me that- don't laugh- cats are fond of catnip and have a tendency to roll around in it. d-u-h.