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Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 3:34:07 pm PST

As I’ve written before, I give Reuters credit for reacting quickly when the Adnan Hajj scandal broke. Reuters CEO Tom Glocer has posted a speech he gave recently about the incident, and it isn’t bad for the most part, although I obviously don’t agree with him that there’s no systemic bias at Reuters: Trust in the Age of Citizen Journalism. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)

We conducted a review which concluded this was a case of an individual photographer, ignoring Reuters rules, and embellishing two photographs for aesthetic, not political, reasons. [It just happened by pure coincidence that Adnan Hajj’s aesthetic sense led him to create images that exaggerated the damage of Israel’s attacks. Right. —ed.]

In addition to the disciplinary action I described earlier, we wanted to get the message out to our entire staff. So we updated and reissued our guidelines for all editorial staff, including a new way of captioning photographs. If for example a photo is taken while on a tour organized by Hezbollah we will now make this 100% clear in the caption. [That’s an improvement - and also an admission that they’ve published photos from Hizballah propaganda sessions without identifying them as such. —ed.] We want to let our users know the full context and make up their own minds.

This helps address the issue of photo ops staged by combatants, but we still needed to address the issue of digital manipulation, so we reiterated our strict rules banning the use of Photo-Shop to do anything you could not legitimately do in the darkroom, and we ensured that every photographer, staffer or freelancer, signed up to these rules. If you didn’t sign, you didn’t work.

But getting photographers to sign up to an enhanced code went some of the way but not all of the way. As a geek myself, I searched for a technical solution that would prevent digital manipulation.

I am pleased to announce today that we are working with Adobe and Canon to create a solution that enables photo editors to view an audit trail of changes to a digital image, which is permanently embedded in the photograph, ensuring the accuracy of the image.

We are still working through the details and hope this will be a new standard for Reuters and I believe should be the new industry standard.

Notice how Glocer says they discovered only two photographs that were altered. Yet they immediately removed Adnan Hajj’s entire category and never talked about it again. Were there other altered photographs in there? We’ll apparently never know; the evidence has been “disappeared,” and Reuters seems to have no intention of discussing it.

The idea of an audit trail is a good one, but color me very skeptical that any technical solution will ever be able to prevent photo fraud entirely. If this is supposed to work with EXIF metadata, there are already many programs that let you play around with EXIF tags to your heart’s content. And if the intent is to create some new standard of embedded metadata that’s harder to alter, good luck getting that approved by all the industry players before, oh, 2010 or so.

If it’s supposed to be some kind of advanced AI routine that analyzes picture data to detect fauxtography, I can only laugh.

Then the CEO of Reuters gets bloggy with it and gives me a hat tip.

So what does the Hajj incident tell us? There are three key lessons:

The first is accountability. The upside of the flourishing blogosphere is that beyond our own strict editorial standards, there is a new check and balance. I take my hat off to Charles Johnson, the editor of Little Green Footballs. Without his website, the Hajj photo may well have gone unnoticed.

The blogosphere provides accountability. They’re not always going to be right. Indeed, many of the accusations levelled at traditional media are partisan in nature – but some are not. We have to listen to the bloggers – we shouldn’t ignore them.

The second lesson is about the trust of our audience. We learned at Reuters that the action of one man – a man who wasn’t even a full-time staff member – could seriously hurt the trust in our news, built assiduously over 155 years. His stupid decision to clone smoke cost us.

We learned that your reputation is only as good as the last photograph you transmit, or the last story you file.

The final lesson we learned was this – more than ever the world needs a media company free from bias, independent, telling it as it really is, without the filter of national or political interest.

If you searched across the Web during the Lebanon conflict you saw many entrenched and extreme views – on either side. There were thousands of voices opining on the war from their own particular standpoint. This cacophony of voices is exciting and it does for the first time give a true flavor of all views. It is also provides a marketplace for ideas.

But I strongly believe that in the mixing of different voices we will always need a place for the news organization whose watchword is trust. Trust will be the differentiator in the new media dynamic. Your independence and impartiality will mark you out.

Telling the story truthfully is more important than ever. Reporting it without spin and without editorializing is critical if history is to accurately record events.

Thanks to Mr. Glocer for the nice words. Now what about this? Reuters: David Duke a ‘US Academic’.

UPDATE at 12/14/06 5:32:41 pm:

A freelance photographer emailed to say that Glocer may be referring to new cameras coming on the market from Nikon and Canon, with options for verifiable images. We shall see.

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1 Hucbald  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:36:55pm

OT:

Ahmet Ertegun, founder of Atlantic Records has died.

If you like R&B, Soul, or Rock, he helped define the musical memories of your life.

RIP

2 legalpad  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:37:57pm

So what's the deal with the comments on the Kos/Malkin thread?

3 mbruce  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:38:24pm

All well and good,but a staged photo op still is fakery,even if the photo is unaltered.

4 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:40:16pm

Someone show him the piece where the Reuters hack calls the Klansman Duke an academic.

5 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:41:40pm

Sorry, I see you mentioned that.

Smacks head on desk.

6 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:46:18pm
We have to listen to the bloggers – we shouldn’t ignore them.

He does make a valid point there.

7 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:49:47pm
We conducted a review which concluded this was a case of an individual photographer, ignoring Reuters rules, and embellishing two photographs for aesthetic, not political, reasons. [It just happened by pure coincidence that Adnan Hajj’s aesthetic sense led him to create images that exaggerated the damage of Israel’s attacks. Right. —ed.]

Well in fairness Charles,

I'm sure Adnan would have changed the pictures of Israel homes being destroyed, and Israelis being killed by the thousands of rockets, for "aesthetic" purposes...
...
...if they were taking them.

See Charles, it had nothing to do at all with "politics" that this news organization took 100,000 photos of the destruction of southern Lebanon, and 20 photos of Northern Israel...

8 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:50:52pm
This helps address the issue of photo ops staged by combatants

Is that "photographers' operations" or "photo opportunities"?

9 budfox  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:52:21pm

The admission is a start; however, as has been shown here a number of times, the problem is certainly widespread.

Where is the accountability for all the other fauxtos that Charles, Zombie, et al. have shown to be suspect?

He is only fessing up to ones he got caught with, not the numerous others that have help perpetuate lies.

Like I said, it is a start...

10 Jane  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:53:36pm

Some respect where respect is due, good for him.

11 religion of bacon  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:53:39pm

Aesthetic reasons? From both a technical and aesthetic point of view, that cloned smoke was incredibly cheesy and amateurish. It was not an aesthetic improvement. It's like saying, "I painted a mustache on the Mona Lisa for aesthetic reasons." Bulls**t.

12 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:54:20pm

Hours of fun.

...our own strict editorial standards...

And, it's free.

13 SnakeSpit  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:55:04pm

Beware Reuters, AP, and all left wing media! The lizards are watching you.

14 USA  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 1:57:06pm

As I posted elsewhere, David Duke is an academic. He has published to prove it:
wikipedia

Using the pseudonym Dorothy Vanderbilt, Duke published a self-help book for women, titled Finders-Keepers, in 1976. The publication gives advice to women regarding vaginal exercises, fellatio, analingus, and anal sex.

15 reader  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:01:48pm

I've come to think truth is a terrible thing to waste on the media. In their toolbox, its only one more weapon to advance what is their overriding agenda, whatever that may be.

16 SnakeSpit  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:02:00pm

Charles--- with all respect I say, "You are finally getting the respect you deserve." Maybe soon they will also acknowledge the excellent work of Zombie.

17 mama winger  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:02:36pm

I have heard David Duke called a number of things. "Academic" is not among the terms I have come across.

18 ec marm  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:04:59pm
This helps address the issue of photo ops staged by combatants, but we still needed to address the issue of digital manipulation, so we reiterated our strict rules banning the use of Photo-Shop to do anything you could not legitimately do in the darkroom, and we ensured that every photographer, staffer or freelancer, signed up to these rules. If you didn’t sign, you didn’t work.

Wow, I spent a lot of time in the darkroom manipulating images. I could very easily have darkened the sky quite dramatically in the darkroom, and infinitely less noticably than the crude Photoshop "clone" tool. I used a piece of heavy paper attached to a straw or pencil and by holding it up close to the enlarger bulb, and keeping it in perpetual motion, the effect was unnoticeable. Was it a valid recreation of the image on the negative? NO. I also used petroleum jelly filters to soften portrait shots. Valid recreation of the image on the negative? NO. I could drive a truck through that loophole. I don't know why they don't say lightness/darkness/contrast/crop applied to entire image only.

19 marjoriemoon  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:05:19pm

#14 USA

While viewing the Wiki on Duke the other day, I noticed that little tidbit. Bully for him.

I believe it's the first paragraph that describes him as an "academic", and then as a "Louisiana Republican representative" AND THEN as an Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

But then if you talk to anyone who hasn't just crawled out from under a rock, the name David Duke is only synonomous with one thing and one thing only. How disgusting of Reuters to not say a word.

20 lioness  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:05:53pm

OT - Has anyone had trouble voting?

I know that I voted yesterday AM, but when I try to vote it is still saying that I have already voted in the past 24 hours.

It has been more that 24 hours!

Just askin

21 Right Side  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:06:13pm
If for example a photo is taken while on a tour organized by Hezbollah we will now make this 100% clear in the caption. We want to let our users know the full context and make up their own minds.


Now that is definitely an improvement, and LGF should be thanked for that.

If photographs from war zones include the disclaimer "This photo was taken while on a tour organized by [combatant]", that will make all the difference in the world to how an informed consumer of the media interprets the photograph. Frankly, my first inclination will be to just disregard any photographs taken while on a tour organized by Hezbollah, so that is good news indeed.

The more difficult question, however, Mr. Glocer continues to sidestep: Namely, a media organization (such as Associated Press) employing foreign stringers who demonstrably have an agenda of their own. I myself supplied to LGF an example of an Associated Press "journalist" who was born and raised in Palestine and admitted publicly that she despises Israelis so much she can't even stand to talk to them--who is then hired by AP to report on the Israel-Palestine situation.

This wasn't so much of a problem when "foreign" still meant "developed world." Nobody would have had a problem with hiring a Japanese stringer to do stories about Japan. But when "foreign" now includes "Third World bitterly anti-Western," and we're at war against Third World countries, we've got a problem. Because we can't possibly expect a Middle Eastern Muslim stringer to give the Western point of view an even break. No Middle Eastern Muslim "journalist" will ever report objectively on the Middle East.

And the news media still refuses to touch that issue. Because it gets right into issues of race and ethnicity, which are so politically explosive.

22 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:06:34pm
23 looking closely  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:08:22pm

#11 Religion of bacon

The smoke images were so bad, one wonders how many times he'd gotten away with it before to get so sloppy.

A faked picture that bad is something you'd expect from the Scientologists, not a supposedly reputable news source.

24 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:08:34pm

Ploome:

don't assume that people care. If history is any place from which to learn a lesson...

25 OtisMyMan  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:09:13pm

OT #1 Hucbald

Thanks for that notice. He was a great man and a fantastic creative soul. He should be made an honorary brother. We won't see his likes or his kind of music again.

And how cool was it that Brother Ray called him "Omelet."

26 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:09:38pm

Glocer might be learning.

27 msdixie  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:09:54pm

#22 ploome, he doesn't care. He doesn't like Jews either or he would get another job.

28 mich-again  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:13:20pm
Telling the story truthfully is more important than ever. Reporting it without spin and without editorializing is critical if history is to accurately record events.

True enough. But MSM editors slant news coverage not only in the stories they report, but also in the ones they ignore. Fact-checking the MSM is important but so is the blogosphere's power to trumpet obscure stories and information that the MSM would rather ignore.

Losing the power to squelch information has to be the worst part of the blog revolution for the media elites.

29 mama winger  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:16:01pm

ploome -

the absence of any consequences for their actions is one of media's very best perks.

30 ratherdashing  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:17:40pm
22 ploome hineni

did he learn that phoney stories demonizing Israel gives ammunition to her enemies and KILLS JEWS?

Anybody can pay attention when their wallet is involved. Tom Glocer probably felt the pinch from the buyers of his service. So, he rattles off "lessons learned."
But, like you say, incorrect news reporting in a war zone leads to people getting killed. I firmly believe that jihadis, when emboldened, will kill one more person. It seems that it doesn't take much to push some fence-sitting extremely radical muslim to decide to join the fight. The photo doctored by Hajj could have led to Hezballah launching one more rocket into Israel.

31 Ma Sands  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:19:40pm

Um...as my newspaper-editor-&-publisher father, who had printer's ink for blood :) , always used to say, a newspaper is a man.

32 ErislDysnomia  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:24:28pm
We learned that your reputation is only as good as the last photograph you transmit, or the last story you file.

Charles,

Would you kindly forward this basic instruction manual on journalism to Tom Glocer? I'm sure it'll be instructive.

Thanks.

Eris

33 mich-again  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:27:24pm

Before Reuters can really close out this story, they need to release all of the Adnan Hajj photos that were "disappeared" from the Reuters archives once the the fauxtography scandal broke. Reuters never published a report on what they found scrutinizing the rest of Hajj's work, nor did they ever released the photos for bloggers to review themselves.

They censored their own work to avoid further criticism. That was hypocritical and cowardly.

34 GeeWiz  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:28:00pm

Kudos, Charles!
The respect and acknowledgement you deserve is beginning to come your way. B'out time!

35 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:30:57pm

#33 mich-again

Yep. Reuters needs to come clean.

36 mj  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:34:12pm

"The final lesson we learned was this – more than ever the world needs a media company free from bias, independent, telling it as it really is, without the filter of national or political interest".


Seems to have left out one important interest:
"Relgious interest".
The problem with most of Reuters coverage is that it does promote the interest of one religion over all others...Islam.

37 directorblue  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:37:51pm

..."David Duke, the notorious racist and former Klanner"...

38 BrandonF  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:46:01pm

Testing

39 BrandonF  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:49:04pm

The old media is starting to recognize and respond to the pressure. The internet and radio have spread the alternative message and they are now responding. I live in Nashville, TN and our local rag The Tennessean has also responded with a more open and balanced op-ed page. Thanks to all the alternative media types like Charles a change may be on the horizon.

40 Liz Ard  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:53:39pm

fauxtography is dead.

Long live fauxtograpy.

Longer live LGF.

41 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 2:54:49pm

#39 BrandonF

How many letters to the editor did The Tennessean run from the Prof. Camp fiasco?

42 brandonf  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:00:24pm

That's a good question. I only read the letters on the weekends and I never saw one.

43 zuckerlilly  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:03:01pm

David Duke makes repeat visit to controversial Kyiv university

and

David Duke Offers ‘Antisemitism 101’ at a Ukrainian University

and

Ministry of Education and Sciences of Ukraine Cracks Down on MAUP

The Ministry of Education and Sciences of Ukraine decided to deny the notorious MAUP University official recognition of 4655 diplomas issued to MAUP graduates in 2006. The ministry based this decision on blatant violations of the license agreement on the part of MAUP.

According to reports from Kyiv, 30 regional MAUP offices are to be closed within next months.

The MAUP leadership declared its intentions to sue the Government of Ukraine for “political prosecution, inspired by Zionist forces.”

Anti-Semitic statements of MAUP leaders were on many occasions condemned by President Yuschenko and representatives of the Government, including Foreign Minister Borys Tarasiuk.

[Link: www.ncsj.org...]

MAUP

[Link: www.adl.org...]

44 mama winger  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:06:53pm

#43 zuckerlilly

I am stumped as to why a slime-bucket from Louisiana would venture to Kiev at all, much less to go to University. Where's the link? How did he get there? That's what I'd like to find out.

45 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:09:15pm

#44 mama winger

Anti-semitists and white supremacists are networked all around the globe.

46 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:10:20pm

LGF:

Does this mean that we are now going to have a B.R.A. (before Reuters admission)/ A.R.A. (after Reuters admission) list/quantifier of Media Bias standard.

IE: 1 year A.R.A.,Reuters claims Israel "massacred" 1000,000 innocent palestinians today."

47 zuckerlilly  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:12:00pm

# 44 mama winger

Ukraine always was a hot bed of antisemitism. But MAUPA became the leading source of antisemitism in the Ukraine after they got a lot of money from the Middle East (Iran, Palestine Autorithy ...).

48 mama winger  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:12:13pm

#45 Mandy

I am woefully naive, it seems. I never knew there was such a significant number of anti-semites in the former Soviet Republics. My son, two summers ago, spent the summer in Ukraine. He didn't come across this, although in his travels I suppose he really wouldn't have necessarily.

I need to read more.

49 mama winger  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:13:47pm

#47 zuckerlilly

Ukraine always was a hot bed of antisemitism

Is there a source where I could learn more about this? Where does this come from? I know I sound dim, forgive my ignorance please.

50 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:14:08pm

Anti-semitism has always been in Russia and the surrounding lands.

51 mama winger  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:18:00pm

#50 Mandy

I have obviously had me head in the sand on this for way too long. I mean, about this particular region.

Isn't there a sizable Jewish population in Eastern Europe and the Russian region?

(I know how dumb I sound)

52 zuckerlilly  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:18:41pm

# 49 mama winger

Do you mean a source about anti-semitism in the Ukraine or at MAUP?

53 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:19:35pm

Russian Anti-Semitism:

[Link: www.adl.org...]

[Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...]

[Link: www.ejpress.org...]

[Link: search.live.com...]

54 mama winger  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:20:36pm

#52 zuckerlilly

Ukraine, if you have a reference. I send money to missionaries there, and have an interest in the region.

55 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:20:41pm

51 mama winger

The various tsars treated the Jews despicably, shoving them around the countryside when not erasing them through pogroms. There once was a huge Jewish presence there but, many were wiped out or emigrated.

56 mama winger  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:21:17pm

#53 Wrath

Thank you! Very much!

57 mama winger  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:23:35pm

Mandy - I wish someone could explain anti-semitism to me. I just don't get it. I mean, Jews are such a small portion of the world's population. To me it makes no more sense then to be anti- Norwegian or anti-New Zealand. What the heck? How are Jews a threat to anyone?

58 zuckerlilly  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:23:56pm

mama winger

Organized Anti-Semitism in Contemporary Ukraine: Structure, Influence and Ideology


[Link: www.findarticles.com...]

But it´s a very long article ;-))

59 Ojoe  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:25:18pm

" but color me very skeptical that any technical solution will ever be able to prevent photo fraud entirely."

Twin lens camera, one is a fisheye. Electronic equivalent of wax seal if any tampering with fisheye image. Other image can be brightened, etc, but the fisheye image is always linked, there to check against. No image without the attached fisheye is believed by the editor. Publish the regular image, keep the linked image there on demand thru the internet.

60 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:26:10pm

#57 mama winger

Jews have a distinctive lifestyle and anti-Semites are either jealous of it or freaked out by it. It goes deeper than that, of course.

61 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:26:25pm

MAMA WINGER:

OK this won't change they way you "look at YOUR people" but its one religous orgs take.

WHY THEY JEWS?

62 mama winger  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:28:03pm

#58 zuckerlilly

Thank you so very much! I will bookmark that for later tonight. It appears Charles has posted an anti-semitism thread up top.

Meet you guys there ? :)

63 WrathofG-d  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:28:40pm

MAMA:

Welcome to Yesuva Wrath ;)

64 zuckerlilly  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:31:00pm

mama winger

Meet you guys there ? :)

Sorry, but it´s 2:30 a.m. here and my pillow is waiting for me ;-)

Good night mama winger, good night @all

65 verger  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:38:35pm

Perhaps they can have some sort of public/private key certification mechanism. So Canon provides each camera with a public key, and if Reuters wants to verify the authenticity of the image, they can send the image (which will have the hash embedded in a metatag in the EXIF thingy - which was generated from the image and the camera's public key) to Canon, and they can verify it. Or some sort of automated process... whatever... Canon could charge MSM zillions for a service like this too :)

66 Allah al fubar  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:46:14pm

"You're fired"

So simple, yet so effective.

67 LordNazh  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:47:16pm
Indeed, many of the accusations levelled at traditional media are partisan in nature – but some are not.

The nature of an accusation has nothing to do with the accurateness of it >

68 itellu3times  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 3:47:53pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Nothing is hackproof, but encrypted steganographed messages are going to be pretty hard to find and diddle.

69 Da Coyote  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 4:13:06pm

Loved your ending question on Reuter's classifying of David Duke as an "academic". Heck, Colorado University at Boulder has Ward Churchill as a full professor. If he can be an academic, we cannot really protest David Duke. At least Duke hasn't copied other's work (both written and painted), threatened folks, and generally proven that the CU faculty selection process is seriously flawed. Boy, have our standards dripped. The next thing you know, we'll have Senators writing up their own Purple Heart medals for scratches.

70 Shiloh  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 4:33:44pm

Odd how they decided to wait until after the elections before instituting this 'reform'. Typical.

71 Cognito  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 5:17:44pm

Good work by Reuters.

72 Dave G  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 5:19:26pm

Only way to keep the photoshop out is to digitally sign the files as they are rendered from the camera.

73 Cognito  Thu, Dec 14, 2006 7:24:08pm

72 Dave G,

Or to transmit RAW files.

74 SpringheelJack  Fri, Dec 15, 2006 3:55:42am

#48 mama winger: regarding anti-semitism in the Ukraine (and elsewhere in Eastern Europe), a clue may be found in the Virtual Jewish History Tour:

But life in Poland-Lithuania was not easy for the Jews. The church continued to pressure the nobles to punish and limit Jewish influence — putting the nobles on the spot because they recognized the economic contribution made by the Jews in society. When Jews settled in the Ukraine, they became more prominent in the trade business, selling dye, cloth, horses, cattle and estates. Jews were also making connections with other Jewish communities in the Ottoman Empire, serving as liaisons between the two worlds. But what Jews were mostly known for — and detested for — was their role in the Polish government as collectors of customs, duties and taxes on behalf of Polish landlords, bankers and physicians.

As Jews prospered, anti-Semitism flourished. The country’s lower classes, including the Ukrainian Cossacks, saw Jews as working for the nation’s wealthy landowners and accused Jews of robbing the wealth of poor people to better enrich them. By the end of 16th century, Poland sought more control over the Ukrainians Cossacks, who rose up against their Polish landowners and the Jews. Life for the Jews then took a turn for the worst.


In Ukraine, Russia, and elsewhere, the nobility used Jews as their agents. This worked out for the nobility: the hostility of those being collected from would be directed at the Jews rather than the nobility. Meanwhile, the Jewish agents knew that their survival depended upon their being under the protection of their nobleman patron, and so had every incentive to look out for his interests

It was in the interests of the nobility that there be no affinity between the Jewish community and the peasantry

75 jaydee  Sat, Dec 16, 2006 3:50:41am

Nice one! and Charles certainly deserves that mention. Keep going Charles.

Await in anticipation from Mr. Glocer, a reaction to Charles's question re that devil incarnate Duke freak!


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