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Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 9:22:19 am PST

Another lazy slacker ends up in Iraq:

In typical Flipper fashion, he spreads defeatism but calls it “success:” Kerry: Iraq visit helped focus his views.

Kerry, a critic of Bush administration policies in Iraq, said the most important challenge now was to achieve “whatever success is possible.”

Next stop for Kerry is the palace of that “mischievous” dictator Bashar Assad, for a little freelance diplomacy and undermining of US interests.

He arrived in Iraq after visits to Egypt and Jordan. He also plans to visit Syria for talks with President Bashar Assad and travel to Lebanon, Israel and the West Bank.

Syria has influence with Iraqi Sunnis, and some leaders of the Sunni-led insurgency are believed to be living there. Kerry has criticized the Bush administration for refusing to engage with Syria and Iran, as was recommended by the bipartisan Iraq Study Group.

Kerry acknowledged that Syria’s influence with Sunni insurgents is limited “but it can create mischief as it has been.” He said discussions with Syria were important because of Damascus’ involvement in a range of regional issues, including Lebanon and the Palestinian areas.

It looks like the Democrats have decided to begin implementing the Iraq Surrender Group’s recommendations—unilaterally.

More:
Gateway Pundit: John Kerry Meets the Dopes Stuck in IraK.
jules crittenden: Halp Us All.

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1 wanumba  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:23:39am

Hate to eat and run, but ...

2 fluffy  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:24:24am

John Forbes Kerry will come home thinking that the troops love him. He has no concept of what would happen to Pvt. Snuffy if he mouthed off at a U.S. Senator.

3 looking closely  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:25:39am

There's Kerry, always shooting low.

How about acknowledging that the first ever free elections in Iraq's history are a "success"?

That deposing Saddam Hussein was a "success"?

4 Kirly  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:25:51am
Another lazy slacker ends up in Iraq

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

that was perfect!

5 Greg  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:26:17am

Hope a few of those "Grunts" (sorry boys) just took a healthy one and did not wash their hands when it come to locking paws with sKerry.

6 thabo  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:27:40am

breaking news alert:

KOS calls for Kerry not to be afforded a security detail and to be encoraged to leave the Green Zone... after al, down-town Bagdad is oh so safe...

hey wait... there's a mistake there somewhere...

That should read "Michelle Malkin", not "John Kerry"...

7 lioness  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:28:05am

This fool must still be in denial about losing the election in 2004.

Loser...

8 obscured by clouds  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:28:34am

The soldier with the black knit cap on looks like he's waivering on whether to shake Kerry's hand or his throat.

9 Luigi  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:30:02am

There's something funny going on with our foreign policy.

At the exact moment when the Democratic Party and Baker-Hamilton tell us we should be talking with Iran and Syria -- Bingo! There's former Louisiana Republican state representative David Duke talking with Iran and Florida Democratic Senator Ben Nelson in Syria. Not to mention Kerry in Egypt last week honobbing with the Muslim Brotherhood. And then there's Carter, the godfather of the whole lot.

Is David Duke an instrument of American foreign policy?

At the same time Iran is actively engaged in killing Americans in Iraq, there's Duke stoking up their enthusiasm and telling them they're on the right track. No matter what he thinks of the war, he shouldn't be criticizing it abroad in an enemy capital. Make no mistake, that's just what he's doing. Whether you think we shouldn't be in Iraq because Hitler didn't have gas chambers, or you think we shouldn't be in Iraq because Saddam didn't have gas chambers, the net effect is the same, and your national responsibilities as an American citizen is the same. You don't go behind enemy lines where they're shooting at us and give rousing speeches to the enemy. I thought this guy at least shared the same flag with me. Another face lift and he'll be Jane Fonda.

And who paid for his trip anyway?

Kerry, Nelson, Duke, Carter. Forty American have died in Iraq since Baker-Hamilton. How many are these men responsible for?

With the kind of enemy we have these days, it doesn't really matter if you're a little bit wrong for your reasons for wanting them dead.

10 ctrlL  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:31:23am

The soldiers on that detail should each receive a medal for providing Jawn with that photo-op.

/what a disgusting kreeep

11 Firebreather  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:33:18am

Kerry, Carter, Clinton, Mondale, Ramsey Clark... they & other Leftists have spent lots of time in the Middle East preaching that America is evil, Islamic terrorism is justified, and Muslim hatred of America is an understandable response to American aggression.

But then in today's world, such behavior is considered patriotic.

12 be the meat  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:34:05am

Kerry's going to make a go of it in 08.

He thinks of himself as someone who "should" be President.

What a putz.

13 obscured by clouds  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:34:32am

Surely Kerry will swing over to Damascus for a little cous cous and tea with the chinless opthomolgist. And I'm sure he'd like to negotiate surrender in Iraq over a bowl of Mrs Akhmedinijad's wonderful goats eye soup.

14 Killgore Trout  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:34:36am

Useful idiots...
Congressional delegation arrives in Cuba


Leading the 10-member, bipartisan delegation are Reps. William Delahunt, D-Mass., and Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., who have criticized the four -decade-old economic embargo against Cuba as a failure.
...
"Delahunt and Flake have long been advocates of positions that benefit the regime," Diaz-Balart said. "They think we should give the regime what it wants: millions of dollars of U.S. tourism and not insist on freeing political prisoners or holding free elections. ... The fact they are going now is more newsworthy only because Fidel Castro is dying."
...
"There is without a doubt a new reality on the ground in Cuba," said Silvia Wilhelm, executive director of the Miami-based Cuban American Commission for Family Rights, which favors easing the embargo, particularly recent limits on family visits to once every three years. "And on the American side, we have a new reality in Congress."


Hamas and Iran and Cuba, Oh my!

15 Middle-Earth  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:35:23am

Why are the soldiers shaking hands with that [deleted] ?

16 _remembertonyc  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:35:25am

one of those soldiers should kick kerry in the balls ...

he has already done it to them

17 wanumba  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:35:31am

The Dems have learned one thing. They cropped the photo so there would be no hand signals.

ps. #9 Luigi
Wasn't Duke ejected from the Republican Party for being, well, racist and KKK? Didn't he find a more comfortable place to hang his sheet hood with the Democrats? Can't recall the details, but it makes my skin crawl at the injustice to keep seeing (R) being associated with him.

18 J.D.  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:36:08am
This is how Kerry described his visit with the troops in Basra and Diyala province:

"Today was very informative and very helpful in crystallizing some of my thoughts insofar as what we can negotiate... and what needs to be accomplished," Kerry told The Associated Press by telephone.


Negotiate? Negotiate with who? Al Qaida? The former Baathists? Iran? Syria?
Thank God this man is not leading our great country today.


Why do you people in Massachusetts keep electing this moron? Why?

19 Deuce  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:36:26am

Did Kerry earn another Purple Heart or other decoration during his tour of duty there?

20 fluffy  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:37:26am

#15 Middle-Earth

Why are the soldiers shaking hands with that [deleted] ?

Because if they don't, some full bird Colonel will get burned at the stake.

21 religion of bacon  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:38:13am

Today was very informative and very helpful in crystallizing some of my thoughts insofar as what we can negotiate

He is scheduled to meet with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki for a firsthand assessment on "what's possible in the political dynamics."

John Kerry, the one-man rhetorical circle-jerk...

22 bweep  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:38:33am

That first soldier clearly thinks there's an enemy sniper hiding in his wig...

23 Schaffman  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:39:02am

Those soldiers don't look too happy to greet him. Do I detect a little "F**k you, Sir" attitude?

24 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:39:38am

STONE HIM.

25 Geoff_in_VA  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:40:30am

Kerry: "Son, follow my lead. Exploit any obscure administrative loophole you can to get out of here. On that note, how many purple hearts do you have? Need any advice on how to 'acquire' more?"

26 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:40:42am

I would not have shaken that puke's hand.

27 Spiny Norman  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:42:12am

#17 wanumba

Wasn't Duke ejected from the Republican Party for being, well, racist and KKK? Didn't he find a more comfortable place to hang his sheet hood with the Democrats? Can't recall the details, but it makes my skin crawl at the injustice to keep seeing (R) being associated with him.

David Duke was a life-long Democrat, until he lost a primary vote and switched to the GOP. The Republican Party has never accepted him and, in fact, has consistently endorsed his Democrat opponents.

28 dennisw  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:45:06am

That POS has his brown "barn jacket" on again. A true man of the people!

29 ctrlL  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:47:40am

14 Killgore Trout

Useful idiots...
---"Delahunt and Flake have long been advocates of positions that benefit the regime"


18 J.D.

Why do you people in Massachusetts keep electing this moron?

ANSWER: It's a matter of demographics that has become insurmountable; Boston, Worcester, Springfield, Amherst all with colleges and professors that have been indoctrinated into far-LLL land.
Also, I believe that the electorate has given up with no Republican base or excitement in the entire State.
Of course, we could add that the major paper is the Boston Globe with the Worcester Telegram being a subsidiary.

/never voted for any of them ... my vote will always count as a protest though

30 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:47:50am

Awfully nice of those soliders to shake his hand, considering he doesn't deserve it.

31 Boondock St. Bender  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:48:59am

#28dennisw
hey,don't knock it,that thing cost 1500$ at peasentwear emporioum..

32 seejanemom  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:49:41am

I can't take politics anymore. It is Christmas week and I refuse to puke up all this great egg nog and fruitcake for the likes of Kerry.

Unless, of course, I could actully puke it ON him. That would be a happy holiday.

Study tha faces of those poor heroes that were forced to go shake his limp hand. That tells it all.

33 Captain Hate  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:50:17am

Did Jean Fraud pull one of his "Don't you know who I am?" on people whom he obviously considers his inferiors?

34 Roger  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:51:34am

To all the soldiers in Iraq and especially those seen shaking the Flipper's hand: "You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!"

Continue to take care of each other and come home safe. Maybe some of you will become Senators with good principles and integrity to replace the snot-noses of the like of sKerry.

35 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:52:46am

Defeasist son-of-a-bitch, his attitude would have left Hitler in place, exterminating and exterminating.

I have only contempt for him and his ilk.

And his face looks like a horse.

36 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:54:11am

Sorry if my comment was abusive.

37 realwest  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:54:41am

That maroon Kerry will be lucky if his ass doesn't get fragged while he's over there.
Our troops can tell the enemy from a friend a mile + away.

38 rickl  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:55:54am
Kerry acknowledged that Syria’s influence with Sunni insurgents is limited “but it can create mischief as it has been.”


Those wacky Sunnis! Making prank phone calls, TP-ing houses. What a bunch of cutups!

39 Roger  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:56:13am

#36 Ojoe

Abusive to horses?

40 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:56:30am

I meant "Defeatist". Bur he's a Defeasist too.

41 J.D.  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:58:33am
42 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:59:07am
43 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 7:59:24am

Yeah abusive to horses.

Kerry:

Mr. compromise-with-evil,
Mr. NO positive can-do-attitude,

America would not be great if all of us were like him; we'd be 'realist' whiners like some other outfits.

44 Luigi  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:01:04am

Tonight on 60 Minutes

Sunday, Dec. 17, 2006
HITLER'S SECRET ARCHIVE - The archive numbers 50 million pages and covers 17.5 million victims of Hitler's Reich –

45 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:01:26am

I like what VDH has to say about it:

Does running for President allow a candidate to freelance at a time of war by talking to our enemies and triangulating against the president? Why is Gov. Richardson talking to North Koreans, or Sen. Kerry trying to talk to the Iranians, or Sen. Bayh to the Syrians? Wouldn't that be like a Tom DeLay talking to Milosevic to undermine Clinton during the Kosovo bombing? Or Trent Lott dealing with the Taliban as Clinton sent cruise missiles against them?

via Roger L simon:
[Link: www.rogerlsimon.com...]

46 J.D.  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:01:36am

OT

"Those six people should have been arrested and prosecuted for pretending to be terrorists," Gingrich said. "And the crew of the U.S. airplane should have been invited to the White House and congratulated for being correct in the protection of citizens."


Gingrich: Imams should have been arrested

47 Spiritualized  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:02:05am
France to pull troops from Afghanistan

To be re-deployed in the Paris suburbs no doubt, so they can protect the police. Or maybe vice versa.

48 Luigi  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:04:40am

#46 J.D.

Gingrich: Imams should have been arrested

The UPI story goes on to cover itself with snot

Their suspicious behavior apparently consisted of reports that they had prayed in Arabic and that they were not sitting together but had walked around to talk to each other.

49 Roger  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:04:50am

#45 FrogMarch

Why does President Bush put up with it? This is one of my beefs with him. President Bush ought to shut this down for the good of the country now and its future.

50 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:05:37am

Those poor soldiers. They must be disgusted.
Unlike the disgraceful pompous elitist (undermining) fraud Kerry, the brave and dignified soldiers have to put on a good show.


John Fraud Kerry - undermining US efforts for 5 decades.

51 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:06:34am

44 Luigi

If you give equal time from '60 Mins.' to all those killed by hitler it is 291,000 people every min.

Kerry: whatever success is possible

Roosevelt: Total Victory

52 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:08:55am

#45 FrogMarch

Are we in a declared war?

53 Roger  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:09:34am

#2 fluffy, I suspect you know what you are talking about:-) Would the same hold if Markos "Screw 'em" Zuniga did a diplomatic tour?

54 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:09:54am

49 Roger

No kidding, this partisan negotiation with our enemies is treason if you ask me.

Bush should stop them, prosecute them.

55 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:11:58am

52 MandyManners

We should be in a declared war. BIG MISTAKE not to declare it. The other side has declared it.

56 Middle-Earth  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:12:09am

#20 fluffy

#15 Middle-Earth

Why are the soldiers shaking hands with that [deleted] ?

Because if they don't, some full bird Colonel will get burned at the stake.

Ha ha, you don't think that a "full bird Colonel" can stand up for himself.

57 Roger  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:13:40am

#54 Ojoe

It is the sure road to the USA splitting up into at least 4 countries; rebels within negotiating as if they are sovereign entities.

58 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:13:40am

Roger (49)

President Bush, because he is a Republican, does not have the luxury of using the media provided bully-pulpit. The DNC media witholds that luxury and only gives it to fellow like-minded leftists. Bush isn't allowed to speak out. Even if Bush does speak out, the media twist, lie and contort every word he says beyond all recognition - in the media's unrelenting effort to discredit and damage our President. I tend to agree with you though; so what? Bush should point out this disgraceful behavior any way he can. It seems the republican leadership is out to lunch. They have forgotten how to fight back.

59 FredFryInternational  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:14:43am

They had to get an Australian General to step forward to greet him in Iraq.

General Greets Kerry in Basrah

How did they get him out there? Who told this poor guy that John Howard was visiting?

60 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:18:24am

Money Quote:

Sounds a lot like Kerry, perhaps having learned a thing or two in the autumn of a political career that looked promising before it didn't, is trying not to commit himself before he does. By which I mean, stay with me here, because the logic is a tad pretzelian, Kerry reserves the right to be for success while being against it. Or against success while being for it. Sorry, I'm lost.


heh.

I'm adding Jules Crittenden to my list of boyfriends.

61 J.D.  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:18:50am

#48 Luigi

The UPI story goes on to cover itself with snot


Yeah, but that's pretty much to be expected at this point...

62 flipflop  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:19:48am

Anyone ever hear of the Logan Act? Here's the relevant part regarding Kerry's planned visit to Syria (and Nelson's previous visit):

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

63 Roger  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:20:37am

#58 FrogMarch

I can't paraphrase what all Senator Lindsay Graham was saying this morning on the news but it was all PC and wrong as in lacking truth. He was saying we didn't know it would be this hard to replace a dictatorship with demoncracy yadda, yadda, yadda. No mention of the real problems. *Spit*.

//Btw, type Senator into the google search and see its help list for search completion.

64 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:20:41am

57 Roger

Yeah. & this thread could be titled

"Flipper's private treason junket."

What Kerry is doing vilolates Article 2 section 2 of the US Constitution. It says the PRESIDENT shall have the power to make treaties and appoint ambassadors. It DOES NOT say that the President AND anyone else can do that.

If I go on I will just curse so I will stop.

65 xyan  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:22:04am

What's up with the dems touring the mid-east independently? Are they building a new White House somewhere in New England? How about waiting until after the elections in '08? Anyone else but me see the similarity between the dem's refusal to acknowledge defeat in '04 and the socialists in Mexico refusing the same this year? So many questions...

66 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:22:32am

52 Mandy Manners

I thought we were. But apparently, it's all up to John Kerry and the perfect shit-don't-stink-all-knowing swamp-draining democrats.

67 Roger  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:23:20am

#62 flipflop

Where is President Bush? He doesn't need the media. All he needs is military police waiting on the tarmac as sKerry arrives.

68 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:24:13am

#62 flipflop

Don't elected representatives have authority by virtue of their being elected? Does the act somewhere specify that the authority must be granted by the executive branch? Does another act so specify?

69 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:24:23am

Here is something beautiful for a sunday; God Bless America.

[Link: www.yosemite.org...]

70 JetPilot1101  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:25:24am

As a member of the Armed Forces, I can tell you that each one of those soldiers had 4910 reasons why they shook Kerry's hand. It's a blatant photo op for the presidential hopeful and it shows he doesn't give a flying terd about our troops. If he cared, he would have gone over there, had no pictures taken, eaten in the mess tent with the privates, taken a tour of the schools that have been built over there etc.

I have had to shake hands with terds like Delahunt and a few other screwheads. I can tell you this, all I wanted to do was kick each one squarely in the balls. Unfortunately, most of those idiots do not frequent the same bars I do and consequently, I haven't had an oppurtunity to kick them in the teeth.

John Kerry is a disgrace to the uniform, the country, the senate...and quite honestly, his wife is a frickin' ulgly biatch.

JP

P.S. 4910 is the form number for the military booking chit.

71 Catttt  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:26:13am

Did anyone link this yet?

Senator Kerry might want to suss out his photo ops on this trip - Senator Clinton with a soldier.

72 flipflop  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:26:16am

#68 MandyManners

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States...

I found this last night on a blog the author of which is an attorney.

73 Roger  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:26:52am

#69 Ojoe, thanks! I needed that too.

74 Pro-Bush Canuck  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:29:13am

Halp us in Conada jon kirry! Halp us two pleas!

75 FrogMarch  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:29:22am

Roger - 63

I think our congress is dysfunctional, disgraceful, cowardly, PC, ignorant, and pampered. It's time for a purge. but tragically it seems every two years our choices seem more pathetic and the left's 527 groups (thank you so much McCain Feingold!) get even more leftist and powerful.

Our (we the people) congress should be filled with real men and women who aren't paid-off by lobbyists and intellectually bankrupted by inside the beltway PC pressures.

76 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:29:28am

68 MandyManners

If you read Article 2 Section 2 of the Constitution I think you will see where the Logan Act is coming from.

I don't elected representatives have any power to negotiate outside the borders; that is an Ececutive job if you ask me.

And I think the people who wrote the Constitution thought so too. It is only common sense that the Country should speak with one voice in these matters.

77 RadicalRon  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:30:11am

Notice how the GIs seem so enthused about Jean-Pierre's visit?

And the long lines just waiting to shake their hero's hand hero's welcome the egomaniacal fool expected did not occur.

Memo: Jean-Pierre, the troops don't give a flying fuck about you, the Iraqi Surrender Group, or the defeatism you, the Democratic Party, Chuck Hagel, Lincoln Chaffee and the MSM preach.

It's truly a damn shame that one of the GIs didn't knock this son-of-a-bitch on his sorry Surrender Monkey ass, calling it a vote for freedom, the military and everything this country stands for. There would never be a court martial because at least 100 GIs would step forward and confess.

And none claiming to have witnessed the vote.



"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."
- Rummy

"Jean-Pierre's a pussy." - Anyone with just half of a brain.

78 gymnast  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:30:29am

The Sunni Muslims consider Bashir Assad, a member of the Alawite Sect, recognized only by an obscure group of Lebanese Shia clerics, to be a heritic. Bashir is grasping at straws as he floats down history's sewer pipe. Perhaps he thinks Kerry is going to bring him a surfboard? The Ikhwan will kill Bashir Assad, sooner than later, maybe real soon.

79 flipflop  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:30:42am

#68 MandyManners

I don't believe merely being elected to either house of Congress invests authority to conduct unilateral foreign policy. Probably have to check with a lawyer on that.

But since it was a lawyer's blog where I found that reference to the Logan Act, I assume there's at least some constitutional basis to invoke it.

Here's the blog post.

80 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:31:15am

I don't THINK...

PIMF

81 flipflop  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:36:15am

#80 Ojoe

I don't, either...it hurts too much. ;-)

82 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:40:21am

Fizz.

(my brain sometimes.)

Time to play the pipes.

83 MarineGrunt  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:40:52am

Hey senator Carry, make sure you get their names and units right this time around for your next winter soldier investigation, unlike your buddy Sean Newton.

/just an ol' Dumb Grunt passing by

84 rem1776  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:46:35am

Kerry is so self consumed he doesn't have a clue . Imagine Kerry shaking these guy's hands.

OK, back to puking.

85 nolimit  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:46:43am
On the floor of the Senate on March 27, 1986, Sen. John Kerry issued this statement: "I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared — seared — in me."

40 years of lies - 1968 till November 2008 - lies, nothing but John F..ng Kerry's lies.

86 RadicalRon  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:49:22am
#59 FredFryInternational


"And now that I've fulfilled the order I was given, mate, how about you doing something productive for once in your bloody life? Like fucking yourself."

/channeling Lt. General Richard Shirreff

87 hous bin pharteen  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:52:02am

Glad to see the Benedict Arnold party is hard at work.

88 Verity Kindle  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:53:08am

None of those soldiers looks very happy to see him. You'd think the Waffler would take the hint and go home in his comfortable jet, which probably has a softer, nicer bed in it than these soldiers have slept on in many months. Welcome to the Double F U Ranch, Kerry. These are my two best hands right here and they'd like to say hello.

89 wanumba  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:58:44am

#27 Spiny N
Thanks for the info.

Now, generally, did Kerry pick up his untouched plate of food and toss it into the trash can like he did with his "lunch" at Wendy's?
Morale among the troops must be dismal - watching the Dems, who have mocked them all this time, win the election to take over in January, then being told to be photo props for that horrible man, the one who equated them with Ghengis Khan and being stooopid?

The American people need to stand up and let the troops know they are appreciated. The Left is doing all it can to tell/demonstrate to them they are not.

90 Macker  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 8:59:22am

#62 flipflop
To the Donks, even the Logan Act is simply ink on a page!

91 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:03:50am

89 wanumba

"Now, generally, did Kerry pick up his untouched plate of food and toss it into the trash can like he did with his "lunch" at Wendy's?"

It is a sin to waste food.

92 flipflop  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:07:39am

#90 Macker

Along those same lines...a well-known Donk not long ago said this:

Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Pretty cool, huh?

Name that Donk!

For extra credit, describe the context in which he said it.

93 msdixie  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:07:49am

Sounds like kerry has been talking to the dalai lama about those michievous jihadi kids who just want to play with bombs and planes and their other toys and blow up all the infidels. I can rest assured now that there will be peace in our time and that the jihad is over.

94 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:08:06am

Food.

[Link: www.kelora.org...]

95 flipflop  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:08:43am

re: my #92

Oh, and no googling. ;-)

96 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:12:06am

Re 94

No goggling or oggling, eitther.

97 msdixie  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:12:26am

#93 Whoops, forgot the linky to the dalai lama's comments. Here's freerepublic's quote and comments.

[Link: 72.14.209.104...]

98 Babydoc97  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:13:08am

Though I am not yet a full bird colonel, I would hapily burn at the stake for one of those bright young enlisted men to have had the opportunity to tell that worthless piece of feces to shove his handshake up his traitorous ass...live...on video...

99 Catttt  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:13:10am

#92 flipflop

Without cheating - I want to guess Rep. Rangel. It sounds like him.

Sounds like it would need to be a President, but it just sounds like Rep. Rangel. If Rep. Rangel didn't say it, he probably thought it.

100 gymnast  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:13:39am

J.D.. If you are still around, go back and look at the last few posts on the Rumsfield thread. I am interested in your opinion.

101 Paul  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:13:45am

Kerry used simple, one syllable words when talking down to the uneducated, illiterate troops.

What a hypocrite, Lurch has traduced and insulted two generations of soldiers. It's a tribute to their discipline and restraint that one of them didn't punch the Senator in his oversized jaw.

102 flipflop  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:16:00am

#99 Cattt

Good guess, and you're probably right that he thinks it. But it was a member of the Clinton administration during the Dark Years (1993-2001).

103 nolimit  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:19:49am
92 flipflop

Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Pretty cool, huh?

Name that Donk!

For extra credit, describe the context in which he said it.

Paul Begala - President Clinton's executive orders. More than any other President.

104 gymnast  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:19:52am

#92, Flipflop. My guess is that was one of BJ Clinton's inner White House circle. I doubt if Clinton himself was ever that straight forward about something he did, but it's possible. The pen was definitely in his hand however.

105 flipflop  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:21:30am

#103 nolimit

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

A nice cold beer for you!

#104 Gymnast gets honorable mention (how much closer can you get?)

106 nolimit  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:23:43am
#95 flipflop

Oh, and no googling. ;-)
#96 Ojoe

Re 94

No goggling or oggling, eitther

.


Sorry, I did not see the rules that followed (95 - 96).

I am a cheater, I will now go hang out at the KOS site for...

How long?

107 nolimit  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:25:18am

Google Habit folks - (holding head down in shame)

108 flipflop  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:25:35am

#106 nolimit

Until you find an outrageous enough posting there to tell us about.

109 nolimit  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:28:21am
108 flipflop

#106 nolimit

Until you find an outrageous enough posting there to tell us about.


be back in 10 seconds

110 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:28:28am

79 flipflop

Is gathering information conducting, i.e., carrying out, foreign policy?

111 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:36:26am

#76 Ojoe

Art. 2, Sect. 2 speaks of the executive powers, in foreign matters specifically making treaties in accordance with 66 per cent of the Senate. I see nothing in there that prohibits elected representatives from going on fact-finding trips abroad.

As far as the nation speaking with one voice in foreign matters, that ain't gonna' happen in a multi-party nation. Unless and until we are in a declared war, I see no treason. I don't like it but, I don't see where it is specifically forbidden by law for people to go on fact-finding trips.

112 nolimit  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:38:32am

OK, here's a winner for outrageous. KOS minion roxnev is listing IQ's of past Presidents.

how about IQ (0 / 0)

Aside from President Nixon all the rest of Republican presidents were just puppets .I say 130 IQ to run for president. Go with smart every time and we will have fewer dumb thing go wrong.
The study determined the following IQs of each president as accurate to within five percentage points:

147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 Harry Truman (D)
122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
174 John F. Kennedy (D)
126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
155 Richard M. Nixon (R)
121 Gerald Ford (R)
175 James E. Carter (D)
105 Ronald Reagan (R)
098 George HW Bush (R)
182 William J. Clinton (D)
091 George W. Bush (R)
And remember that on the N.G. flight test that averaged out 075 G.W. Bush score was 023

Is one Bush worth 3,000 soldiers and 3 Trillion dollars

by roxnev on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:17:51 AM PST

113 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:40:52am

I won't officially cancel Christmas snowstorm threat for Northeast (new GFS now shows light snow on Christmas Day itself, but nothing at all heavy), but a couple of GFS runs have suggested a Christmas Day Icestorm Disaster for RIP Ford, whom I met at the 2005 LGF M/U, with forecast thicknesses and temps generally supprting moderate to heavy freezing rain along I-35 corridor from San Antonio to Dallas, with snow possible Northwest of a generally Midland to Abilene to Oklahoma City line.


If the models still look like that tomorrow, a big LGF/DL/GCP* big colored happy post could happen at lunch time.

114 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:44:42am

111 MandyManners

Fact-finding, well fine. But I suspect they're making tentative promises to the foreigners they talk to; and yes, the war has not been declared, so it is a gray area.

Before we win it, we'll declare it, I suspect.

115 scorched earth 138  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:50:47am

"Hey senator Carry, make sure you get their names and units right this time around for your next winter soldier investigation, unlike your buddy Sean Newton."

Weren't most of the "Vietnam" veterans involved in that abortion lacking Vietnam service on their DD-214s?

116 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:51:31am

112 no limit

Re IQ:

"IQ" measures only abstract intelligence, and this is but one of many aspects of a person's intelligence.

What was Clinton's cheat-on-your-wife moral IQ ?

Abraham Lincoln's secretary said that Lincoln did not have an especialy quick mind, but thet he was never under any illusion.

How smart is that?

It tends to be the dodos who focus on "IQ".

Can you post this on KOS ?

I won't go there.

117 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:52:58am

And typos are a sign of a high IQ.

118 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:55:52am

#114 Ojoe

If they are making specific promises, are they acting outside their Constitutional limits?

119 jopa416  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:55:54am

Since Kerry believes our Military people are dumb maybe he thinks he can recruit them to be democrats.

This could be the reason for his trip.

120 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:58:26am

118 MandyManners

I think they are. Does the attorney General think so?

But even if he does, he has to think he can prove it.

That would be hard, so I guss we'll see more of this private talking.

121 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 10:00:22am

119 jopa416

Ahh, we can stop fretting now.

122 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 10:00:29am

#120 Ojoe

Even if they are making specific promises, is that illegal?

123 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 10:03:32am

It is unseemly anyhow; but I'm an architect not a lawyer so I can't say if it is illegal, except if I were on a jury; then I'd say illegal.

124 JingisKahn  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 10:07:41am

#18 J.D.
Why do you people in Massachusetts keep electing this moron? Why?

Hard to imagine, but the last time he ran for Senator most people did not know he was up for re-election. There was no republican opposition and as the media usually does they ignored the libertarian candidate.
The same is true of Kennedy's re-election this year. The media pretty much ignored the election and Kennedy refused to debate on broadcast TV. They did do one debate on cable but the date/time was published the same day as it was shown on tape delay. Kennedy has trouble putting 2 or 3 coherent sentences together.
Of interest, you can expect Joe Kennedy to replace the swimmer fairly soon. With a democrat in the statehouse if teddy retires, joe is a shoo in. (although when flipper was running for president, the state legislature made a CYA move and made it a requirement for a special election and took the power away from the governor).
There has been an ongoing campign in MA for the last few years for joey. He heads up a non-profit called the "Citizens Energy Corp" and each winter they run ads with good old joey pulliing up in an oil truck and delivering oil to some poor old whitehaired woman whoe reminds us of our grannies. She even says stuff like "God bless Joe Kennedy"...
This years campaign is even more egregious, as he's pimping for Chavez and 40% off oil from Venezuela. They show a smiling joe kennedy atop an oil rig in Maracaibo Venezuela. These are clearly campaign commericals for a candidate running for an unspecified office. Wonder what the FEC opines on the subject?

125 MandyManners  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 10:18:34am

#123 Ojoe

It definitely is unseemly. It's even nauseating. But, would people's knickers be in such a twist if these representatives were Republicans? Even among the GOP, there are opinions different than those of Pres. Bush.

126 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 10:42:42am

My knickers would be in a twist, if I wore knickers.

IMHO this visiting and negotiating ought be executive not legislative & especially not partisan.

but there's not much more to say here.

127 myshkin  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 11:01:49am

#112

091 George W. Bush (R)

91? damn, that's getting down into the democrats base. Is it possible to be able to read and have a 91 IQ? I know it's possible to write with an IQ that low, cuz I read daily kos...

128 19kilo  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 11:04:48am

This is a much better picture. know body is even acknoledging him.

129 MarineGrunt  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 11:05:27am

#115 scorched earth 138 12/17/2006 11:50AM PST

"Hey senator Carry, make sure you get their names and units right this time around for your next winter soldier investigation, unlike your buddy Sean Newton."

Weren't most of the "Vietnam" veterans involved in that abortion lacking Vietnam service on their DD-214s?

Not only lacking "Vietnam" Service, lacking any military service at all. Most were just students.
One example is Sean Newton who claims he did two separate tours in Nam, Feb '66 to Dec '66 with 3rd Battalion, 7thMarines. Second tour with Delta Company, 1st Battalion 26th Marines (D 1/26) and with 3rd Combined Action Group from Aug '67 to Aug '68. I served in Delta 1/26 about the same time frame and never heard of a Sean Newton, neither have all the others that served then.
I have all the company rosters and diaries from the time that the company arrived in Nam in 1966, until it left in 1970, no Sean Newton anywhere.

A rat in the wood pile as they say.

130 Daisy  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 11:16:33am

I can not stand his face.

131 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 11:33:47am

130 Daisy

Neither can I but he was born with it.

Then again habitual happiness and honesty might just change the sourness he seems to have layered over what God gave him.

I'm being mean, I should stop.

132 zuckerlilly  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 11:37:39am

Kerry said he was "willing" to go to Iran for talks but had no current plans to do so.

[Link: www.beirutbeltway.com...]

133 Ojoe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 11:37:53am

A cheerfull face is in the link at 94

134 6patrick6  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 12:02:46pm

If I were still active-duty and in Iraq, I wouldn't give that bastard the time of day, much less grace him with my presence.

Clinton landed at my base here in the States once, and the base wanted to get what we call a "rent-a-crowd" to go and see him. Very, very few volunteered, so the commander actually TOLD people they would go...more or less as an order, to do so. I, fortunately, was out the gate that day before that happened! He is another person I wouldn't piss on if he were on fire to put him out!

These two, among the vast majority of (D) idiots in Congress (and former Presidents), were and are the virulently anti-US military around and deserve nothing from me but my contempt.

135 Chuck Pelto  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 12:35:06pm

TO: Charles Johnson, et al
RE: I Look Forward...

...to Senator Kerry coming back and jack-slapping Senator Rangel about the quality of troops in the Armed Forces of the United States.

However...

...I'm not holding my breath on it happening.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. I hope the troops gave him dirty hand-shakes.

136 Captain Joe  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 12:46:03pm

What a dope!

137 Chuck Pelto  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 12:54:50pm

TO: Charles Johnson, et al
RE: Hmmm...

Those vehicles in the background don't seem to me to be anything front-line combat troops use.

What unit was 'used' for this photo-op?

Regards,

Chuck(le)

138 Chuck Pelto  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 12:55:52pm

P.S. I'd have been more 'impressed' if the Senator was photographed shaking the hands of troops on patrol in Fallujah.

139 Dayenu  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 2:36:20pm

Re: President IQ

I'm a little late to this thread, but those of you who got the leftist list of "presidential IQ's" showing how the only intelligent Republican was the "evil Richard Nixon," rest assured that the e-mail is a fraud, and has been de-hoaxed by Snopes.

Check for it on Snopes.com

140 NamDoc67  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 2:40:21pm

#83 Marine Grunt
I'm interested in your reference to Sean Newton, witness at the WSI. Could you elaborate?

141 NamDoc67  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 2:47:40pm

Marine Grunt
Sorry I did not see your #129 before I posted.
I'm involved in THIS and you could possibly be of help. How can I contact you?

142 blue_like_jazz  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 2:56:12pm

all of those guys look either noncommital or pissed.

i think the one shaking his hand is thinking that he'd rather be kicking his ass.

143 big L  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 3:00:41pm

60 frog March- are you a woman?

144 JustMyView  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 3:19:42pm

#63 Roger

I can't paraphrase what all Senator Lindsay Graham was saying this morning on the news but it was all PC and wrong as in lacking truth.

I'm curious as to how you know this. Graham has just come back from Iraq. Do you have a more up-to-date report from someone who has been there recently, heard briefings from senior military people, and met w/ people in the Iraqi government? Serious question.

145 JustMyView  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 3:25:16pm

#9 Luigi

Kerry, Nelson, Duke, Carter. Forty American have died in Iraq since Baker-Hamilton. How many are these men responsible for?

I kind of doubt that Iraqi terrorists are paying attention to which of our senators are visiting the country, except to the extent that they might try to figure out whether there'd be an opportunity to kill them.

If the deaths of U.S. military personnel in the past couple of weeks is attributable to the presence of these senators, what accounts for the nearly 3000 deaths that have occurred in the previous three and a half years? The senators weren't there then.

146 Stop Hillary  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 3:31:29pm

I feel sorry for that poor trooper, having to be stuck in a staged photo op, shaking hands with a traitor that should be in prison instead of the Senate.

147 JustMyView  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 3:31:41pm

#29 ctrlL

Also, I believe that the electorate has given up with no Republican base or excitement in the entire State.

The current governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney, is a Republican. I believe the previous one was too, but, even if not, the next one back (Bill Weld) was. Although the voters seem to be fed up w/ Romney, Weld was, in fact, quite popular. He'd probably still be governor if he hadn't left that post to run against John Kerry--and lost in, I believe, a tight race.

148 JustMyView  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 3:37:16pm

#58 FrogMarch

President Bush, because he is a Republican, does not have the luxury of using the media provided bully-pulpit. The DNC media witholds that luxury and only gives it to fellow like-minded leftists. Bush isn't allowed to speak out. Even if Bush does speak out, the media twist, lie and contort every word he says beyond all recognition - in the media's unrelenting effort to discredit and damage our President.

President Bush is probably the only person in the country who can go on TV pretty much any time he wants and say whatever he wants. He has direct access to the American people. If he wants to give a speech, the White House simply calls the networks and asks for the time. The media may comment on what he says in ways you don't agree with, but his speeches are presented withouot interruption. Thus, the public has the opportunity to see him and hear what he has to say without any "filtering".

149 JustMyView  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 3:39:29pm

#64 Ojoe

What Kerry is doing vilolates Article 2 section 2 of the US Constitution. It says the PRESIDENT shall have the power to make treaties and appoint ambassadors. It DOES NOT say that the President AND anyone else can do that.

Make treaties? Appoint ambassadors? Did Kerry do those things? Did he even say he was going to?

150 DANEgerus  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 3:45:02pm
151 Ward Cleaver  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 4:15:52pm

Those guys are thinking, "I could take him down in a heartbeat. Asshole.".

152 Ward Cleaver  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 4:19:46pm

#150 DANEgerus

Oh man, you read my mind. I was just thinking about that first picture, and the spoof captions that were written at the time. All I can remember is, "I'm gonna stick that finger up his ass and break it off".

153 MarineGrunt  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 5:13:07pm

#140 NamDoc67

#83 Marine Grunt
I'm interested in your reference to Sean Newton, witness at the WSI. Could you elaborate?

Doc,
Sean Newton's name came to my attention several years ago at this web site, when I was doing web searches for former members of my unit (Delta 1/26). I had no idea who he was since his name didn't show up in any of our company rosters or other reports. I contacted other members of Delta 1/26 and no one knew or ever heard of him.

Fre Newton "Fig Newton" is the only Marine that was with Delta Co. and he sure has heck didn't get involved with the anti war crowd.

We contacted John O'Neill of the swift boats vets last presidential election about Newton, John O'Neill informed us that most of the clowns involved in that farce of an investigation were bogus vets and liars, like Kerry.

We also contacted the other Marine units Sean Newton claims he served with, same response, bogus.

Doc, you by chance a FMF Doc?

154 Roger  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 5:29:06pm

#144 JustMyView

He was on the news this morning. He is definitely looking out for number one as the Dems take power.

155 Roger  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 5:31:11pm

#144 JustMyView

You snipped what I said in #63 too short. Read it again.

156 MarineGrunt  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 5:47:52pm

#141 NamDoc67


Marine Grunt
Sorry I did not see your #129 before I posted.
I'm involved in THIS and you could possibly be of help. How can I contact you?


Geees, where's my glasses, How did I miss your post, directly under the one I replied to. must have been a senior moment there for a sec.

Doc, I am aware of the "Bud" Day (Marine WWll MOH) and the VVLF I was not aware of the law suit against Kerry's associates, Most of the Khe Sanh Veterans know about the VVLF too, It has been mentioned many times at our web site.
I'm not sure what help I can offer the VVLF with the exception of the Newton lies.
Click my nic to send email.

157 big L  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:44:06pm

JeffnKerry visited the chinless Dr Assad in DEc 04,right after the election also.

He looks like a secrets bag man.

158 sngnsgt  Sun, Dec 17, 2006 9:55:41pm

Here's a jewel from a DUmmie on Lt. John F-troop Kerry's excursions abroad:

I don't understand the idea that you can't talk to someone.
You should be able to talk to anyone. It's the grown up thing to do.
Then again, I'm not so sure about talking to Iran while Ahmedanajad is in power. He's a whole other level of evil.

That last sentence must have been typed on the exhale of bong smoke.

159 imam number 12  Mon, Dec 18, 2006 2:20:14am

It's ridiculous of course but what is the big deal?

He's allowed to talk to who he likes, it is not against the constitution no matter how distasteful some might find his behaviour.

Calm down...

160 Gordon  Mon, Dec 18, 2006 8:24:22am

Kerry served his country in Vietnam.

And even if you believe the Swift Boat Shill Tales, that's a lot longer than Charles Johnson has served in any armed force.

So who's the "lazy slacker" now, Charles?

Hypocrite.

161 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 18, 2006 10:32:47am

#160 Gordon

Don't interrupt him while he's ignoring you.


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