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The Incredibly Strange Graduation of the Iraqi Anti-Rabbit Police Commando Geeks

Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 1:28:01 pm PST

We’ve turned Najaf over to the Iraqis, but this little vignette (reported by the Associated Press) makes it a bit difficult to feel enthusiastic about these forces being a civilizing influence.

“Transferring responsibility is an indication of the increased capacity of the Iraqi police and the Iraqi army,” Maj. Gen. Kurt Cichowski said at the ceremony.

But Cichowski added that U.S. troops would continue to provide support if called upon. “We will be quite literally just up the road.”

About 1,500 police officers and soldiers paraded on a soccer field, and other officers drove shiny new patrol cars and motorcycles around a dusty track ringing the field.

At one point, a small group of elite Iraqi special forces officers wearing dark green T-shirts stepped forward with a live rabbit and ripped it apart with their teeth.

The leader chomped out the animal’s heart with a yell, then passed around the blood-soaked carcass to his comrades, each of whom took a bite. The group also bit the heads off frogs.

Elite Iraqi forces have demonstrated their toughness by chewing on live animals during military ceremonies since the time of Saddam Hussein’s rule.

It sounds so gruesome I immediately doubted the AP report. But here’s a picture. (Do I need to warn anyone?)

And here’s another.

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1 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:30:09am
2 forrest  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:32:22am

Is live rabbit halal?

3 religion of bacon  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:33:02am

If it was the Monty Python Killer Rabbit, color me impressed.

it's got big, pointy teeth!

4 fed-up  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:33:07am

The Ozzy Battalion?

Seriously, this is just stupid. They can eat a live rabbit but how will they respond to the headchoppers?

There's the rub.

5 FredLee  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:33:30am

In Judaism, the eating of live animals (still common in Asia) is seen as the quintessence of immorality.

6 MandyManners  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:33:47am

Incomprehensible.

7 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:34:01am

You want fries with that?

8 religion of bacon  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:34:54am

Obligatory "tastes like chicken" comment in 3... 2... 1...

9 Ben Hur  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:35:26am

It wasn't just ANY rabbit

10 loppyd  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:35:42am

Of course I am especially offended.

11 FredLee  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:35:45am

There has been much made of the mistreatment of women in Muslim culture. The horrible abuse of animals is another manifestation of the "submission" that the weak must feel toward the strong.

12 PISSED  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:36:15am

Thats what some of the moonbats want to do to George. : )

13 blue_like_jazz  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:36:42am

so, these are the people on "our" side?

democracy does not befit barbarians. sorry, w.

14 religion of bacon  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:36:50am

In that part of the world, I'd be a bit concerned that the rabbit might have AIDS...

15 Prester John  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:37:00am

The AP needs to go take a look at the what our guys do at Ranger and Special Forces training.

16 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:37:11am
17 HerrMorgenholz  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:37:11am

Mmmm Hassan-pfeffer.

18 toonman  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:37:18am

Rabbit sushi anyone?

19 jamgarr  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:37:27am

Yikes!

20 NoSubmission  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:37:28am

Awful. Cruel. Meaningless.

21 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:37:33am
22 TotallySirius  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:38:28am

Iraqi police/army biting live animals...

More like a troop of circus Geeks(original definition)

or...

Geek Squad


No fire jumping?

I'm disappointed.

23 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:38:30am

Uhhh...

Yeah...

Obviously this is just their culture, man, and we should be Tolerant of their different...

/oh, forget it. WTF?!

24 byzantium  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:38:50am

canadian SF=known for re-eating each other's vomit
French foreign legion=required to eat a raw fish. Its on their website.
US forces=there a clip on ogrish of urine drinking

thats what i know off.

25 Ben Hur  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:39:12am

You know, they yell "allah hu-akbar" when they march.

Yes they do. Saw it a week back on FOX.

26 arf  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:39:18am

Pasturella, Salmonella, Tularemia, Listeria, the usual dermatophytes...

27 morganfrost  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:39:21am

#5 Fred--

Correct, indeed. The prohibition on eating a live animal is one of the few requirements that Judaism actually imposes on non-Jews.

Apparently, cruelty to small animals is how Arab soldiers prove how tough they are. These people are loathsome beyond description. And they're the ones we like!

28 GoJeepGo  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:39:25am

[insert Ozzy Osbourne joke here]

29 khamr  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:39:59am

How sooo... 7th Century.

30 TotallySirius  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:40:04am

Tasteless joke warning.

Dhimmi Carter should get some of these guys as bodyguards next time he goes boating.

31 Prester John  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:40:09am
NATO says 50 Taliban killed in Afghan offensive

KABUL (Reuters) - NATO and Afghan forces have killed about 50 Taliban fighters in the past few days in an operation in southern Aghanistan, an alliance spokesman said on Wednesday.

There were no casualties among NATO and Afghan forces in the latest operation, said NATO spokesman Brigadier Richard Nugee.

The Taliban could not be contacted immediately for comment.

32 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:41:21am

Great. As if Al Qaeda wasnt bad enough, now we have to deal with PETA.

33 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:41:52am

Come on...we all ate goldfish in college...

34 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:42:05am

15 Prester John

The AP needs to go take a look at the what our guys do at Ranger and Special Forces training.

My favorite part of Col. Grossman's "On Killing" was his recounting how during Ranger training, he found himself sitting in a swamp in cold rain, having not slept in two days, wondering what he was doing with his life, as the live frog he was eating slid down his throat.

That was the gist of it, anyway. LOL.

This isn't training for survival, though, it's just barbarity.

35 Prester John  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:42:09am

Sorry, forgot the link:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

36 Laurence Simon  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:42:10am

Why are we bothering to equip them with M-16's and body armor?

Just send over a bunch of spears and magic helmets.

37 RightLogic  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:42:12am

WTF?!

That's it, time for a paradigm shift. Give the Iradis six months to get their act together (and not by clearing Iraq of rabbits) and bring everyone home. Leave that region to its own fourth-world devices and let the numb-nuts over there go at each other. They can't breed fast enough (Muslims, not rabbits) to replenish the ranks.

38 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:42:17am
39 mj  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:42:21am

Could be worse. They could have bitten the head off a Jew or ripped his heart out of his chest... Oh wait, wrong Arabs...those are Palestinians who do that.

40 religion of bacon  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:42:31am

Can we just come out and say that their culture is barbaric and inferior now? Please?

What will it take -- YouTube vids of clitorectomies?

41 bigdicksplace  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:42:38am

Just great! Now PETA is gonna invade.

42 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:42:52am

Allah is a demon who demands blood sacrifices from his followers. Just be glad it was rabbits & frogs & not children, like some Ropers sacrifice.
Pray for the conversion of the muslim world.

43 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:43:05am

So THAT'S what happened to the ears on my chocolate Easter bunny!

Sniffle...

44 Catttt  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:43:13am

Frogs and rabbits? Calling Dr. Peta - Dr. Peta please.

My nine pound Siamese could do that stuff - and would happily do so, if frogs and rabbits weren't so darn fast.

Can these people get more pathetic?

45 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:43:26am
46 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:44:20am

Oh, and another good one: The week-outside-in-the-African-sun rotten goat (or was it a cow?) eaten by the Rhodesian Selous Scouts at the end of their beginner's training. Yummy!

47 Ben Hur  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:44:29am

It will be fun pointing out PETA's silence when they bite the heads off people.

48 khamr  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:44:31am

ribbit.

49 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:44:51am
50 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:45:31am

Eating live frogs? I thought the French weren't involved in Iraq...

51 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:45:41am

Hey leave PETA out of this...

People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

52 DistantThunder  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:45:54am

I'm sorry, but that's just... uncivilized...and unprofessional.

53 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:46:03am

Even as savage as Islam is, my understanding of Islamic dietary laws are that animals are to be slaughtered as painlessly as possible, with the throats slit in such a way as to sever the jugular veins, trachea and esophagus.


So these people are breaking their own violent rules.

54 mj  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:46:36am

They thought it was Crusader Rabbitt.

55 merav  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:46:44am

That makes them disgusting, but it doesn't make them tough. I don't know many combat soldiers who've done battle with rabbits.

(Exercising self-control and not making France jokes.)

56 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:47:27am

The Wall Street Journal thinks we stink...
The Blog Mob
"Written by fools to be read by imbeciles."

Because political blogs are predictable, they are excruciatingly boring. More acutely, they promote intellectual disingenuousness, with every constituency hostage to its assumptions and the party line. Thus the right-leaning blogs exhaustively pursue second-order distractions--John Kerry always providing useful material--while leaving underexamined more fundamental issues, say, Iraq. Conservatives have long taken it as self-evident that the press unfavorably distorts the war, which may be the case; but today that country is a vastation, and the unified field theory of media bias has not been altered one jot.

Leftward fatuities too are easily found: The fatuity matters more than the politics. If the blogs have enthusiastically endorsed Joseph Conrad's judgment of newspapering--"written by fools to be read by imbeciles"--they have also demonstrated a remarkable ecumenicalism in filling out that same role themselves.


Although he does make some valid points he's just another douchebag with a theraurus.

57 maddogg  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:47:51am
At one point, a small group of elite Iraqi special forces officers wearing dark green T-shirts stepped forward with a live rabbit and ripped it apart with their teeth.

The leader chomped out the animal’s heart with a yell, then passed around the blood-soaked carcass to his comrades, each of whom took a bite. The group also bit the heads off frogs.


Well I guess its fundamental; A-rabs bite.

Does anyone want me to repost my method of preparing and cooking frog's laggs?

58 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:49:05am
59 abontje  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:49:27am

Christ, nuke the f@*king country and get it over with now.

How can the US military be a part of something so disgusting.

60 Old Tanker  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:49:36am

Rabbit is just a wee better cooked...

61 spider mensch  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:49:37am

If it was a viscous badger or some sort of feral cat or tazmanian devil type creature I might be somewhat impressed, though still sickened, but rabbits and frogs? Try biting something that might bite back there tough guys.

62 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:49:58am

Hunting Birds and Animals for Pleasure. List of Halal Animals

Haram

Insects, Snake, Lizard, Gecko, Mice, Rats, Hedgehog, Jerboa, Weasel, Frog, Lion, Wolf, Jackal, Leopard, Tiger, Lynx, Cheetah, Panther, Fox, Cat, Squirrel, Fennel, Sable, Bear, Monkey, Ape, Elephant, Dog, Falcon, Hawk, Saker, Kite, Eagle, Vulture, Bat, Turtoise, Crocodile, Mongoose, Ferrent, Raven

And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Tsk, tsk.

63 BlueCanuck  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:51:43am
At one point, a small group of soldiers stepped forward with a live rabbit and tore it to pieces. The leader bit out the heart with a yell, then passed around the blood-soaked remains to his comrades, each of whom took a bite. The group also bit the heads off frogs, as some of those in the crowd held their noses from the stench.

Man, and this is the cradle of civilization? I am speechless. . . .

64 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:52:06am
65 IowaInfidel  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:52:16am

Mmm, tastes like chicken!

Uh, raw chicken, that is. Ugh.

66 beavereater  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:52:31am

There's going to be a shortage of Easter egg's in 2007.

PS. As an egg holder,
I'm strong on eggs!

67 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:52:36am
68 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:52:41am

from that article

Every conceivable belief is on the scene, but the collective prose, by and large, is homogeneous: A tone of careless informality prevails; posts oscillate between the uselessly brief and the uselessly logorrheic; complexity and complication are eschewed; the humor is cringe-making, with irony present only in its conspicuous absence; arguments are solipsistic; writers traffic more in pronouncement than persuasion . . .

Um... Welcome to the Internet, guy. Something like 80% of it is porn and/or crap. Where have you been?

69 Catttt  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:52:47am

Texas has something for you Pali boys -

Bite me!

70 Van Impe  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:53:28am

This story caught my eye:

Inquiry into sexual abuse ring
A major investigation is under way into the sexual abuse of as many as 20 girls in Oldham, some as young as 12.

It is alleged they are befriended by older men, who buy them gifts. The relationship later turns sexual and the girls are abused.

Police said that although the abuse was a major problem they did not have evidence it was an organised paedophile ring.

Inspector Dave Sacks of Greater Manchester Police said: "A significant number of arrests have been made and five people have been charged in relation to investigations into the exploitation of children in Oldham."

Officers have arrested more than 20 men, five of whom have been charged with offences including abduction and rape.

Independent

Who would take advantage of young girls? The usual suspects:

Five men have been charged as part of a major investigation into the sexual abuse of girls in Oldham.
More than 20 men were arrested and three were charged with rape and two with abduction offences.

Shahzad Masood, and Suleman Mohammed, both 32, were charged with abduction and Sarwar Ali, 31, was charged with rape. All have been released on bail.

Kadir Hussain, 23, and Shakil Chowdhury, 39, were charged with rape and remanded in custody.

Mr Masood, of Melford Avenue in New Moston and Mr Mohammed, of Derby Court in Werneth, were charged on 23 August.

Mr Hussain, of Princess Street, Ashton-under-Lyne, was charged on 12 November.

Mr Chowdhury, of Attock Close, Chadderton was charged on 2 November.

Mr Ali, of Chester Street, Werneth, was charged on 2 November.

BBC

71 TotallySirius  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:54:50am

#62 Killgore

Amazing that most rodents are on that list with one exception...rabbit.

and...

Isn't Fennel a plant?

BTW that list looks like the favorite foods of Taz,from the Bugs Bunny cartoon where Bugs meets Taz for the first time.

72 merav  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:55:07am

#56 Kilgore,

Yup, they have a thesaurus, but they do serve up some yummy vocabulary words. I love me some philological morsels.

73 Q-Burn  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:55:28am

These are the people America has empowered, folks. Your tax dollars at work. Well, not actually since this war is entirely on the credit card, an estimated two trillion at last count with interest. Your children's tax dollars at work. And their children. And their children. In the event we last that long.

74 salaami  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:55:50am

Child: Mommy, where's Thumper?

Mother: Well, Thumper's gone to Heaven.

Child (stifling tears): What happened to him?

Mother: He was eaten alive by members an elite Iraqi paramilitary unit.

75 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:55:58am
76 religion of bacon  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:56:12am

#56 Killgore Trout

While that excerpt may be factually correct, he's missing the point -- it's like he's bashing a sushi joint because they don't serve cheeseburgers. You want crappy burgers, there are already 1000 places to get them.

Back when I used to listen to Limbaugh, he'd say, "I don't have to be fair and balanced, I am the balance against the liberal media!"

77 Stinger McGraw  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:56:58am

I wonder what Elmer would have done if he had ever caught Bugs Bunny.

This thread has the potential of being very funny. Where are the French jokes?

78 Frank_Mtl  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:58:00am

Cruel and gross!

79 david e  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:58:21am

Come on people, just run through a list of live animals that various rockers have done in in concert. Is it disgusting? Yeah, but we have are stupid instances too.

80 Mosin Nagant  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:59:25am

Ive got this image stuck in my mind of an Iraqi eating a pussy (cat).

81 david e  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:59:32am

err our.

82 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:59:36am
83 formercorpsman  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:00:00pm

Listen, I actually do remember eating rabbit while on active duty.

Wait.

Camp Johnson, FMSS, light breading, deep fried, chow hall.

Nevermind.

84 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:00:16pm

#71 TotallySirius
Rabbit seems to be a grey area, some say it's Hahal others haram. The list of Halal is interesting too...


Halal

Goat, Sheep, Cattle, Bufallo, Buck, Fish, Camel, Gazelle, Onager, Rabbit, Fowls, Ducks, Pigeon, Sparrow, Partridge, Crane, Locusts, Bustard, Owl, Swift, Giraffe, Magpie, Quail, Lark, Starling, Sand Grouse, Nitingale, Ostrich, Peacok, Goose, Turtle Dove, Stag, Swan, Dolphin, Shark

85 formercorpsman  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:01:42pm

What this does tell you, is that you can't polish a terd.

86 rusta  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:02:24pm

These folks have the Babylonians as thier ancestors it is in thier nature
The Babylonians were cruel and thorough conquerors:

87 looking closely  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:02:27pm

Iraq has been known for its barbarity for thousands of years.

But if these guys really wanted to show how tough they are, maybe they should try taking a REAL lesson on eating from our boys in Iraq:

(And what they eat)

88 CrimsonFisted  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:02:33pm

Why do this? What does this prove except stupidity? And these are the elite?

89 merav  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:02:33pm

#67 savage_nation,

I LOVE that movie!

90 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:03:52pm
The group also bit the heads off frogs.

Were they Crunchy Frogs?

91 Evan from NZ  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:04:55pm

OT

He's at at again

Norman Finkelstein compares Shimon Peres to Hitler

For a guy who reckons Jewish elites are abusing the memory of the Holocaust, he finds nothing wrong in calling people he doesn't like Nazis on the slimmest of pretexts...

92 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:05:23pm

OT- while a 'White Christmas' looks hopeless in Dallas, and rather unlikely in San Antonio, 18Z GFS suggests snow possible Christmas Eve in Midland, with sleet possible in San Angelo.

I stopped at a Diamond Shamrock to buy gas in San Angelo, and I've been drunk in Midland and Odessa.

93 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:05:51pm

When they go and rip the internal organs out of al-Sadr I'll be impressed.

94 jehu  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:06:31pm

Hey...they were showing courage. We do extreme sports to show our courage, or ultimate fighting matches. African tribesmen might hunt a lion and eat its heart to show courage. Hawiians invented surfing 40 ft waves to show courage. Eskimoes hunt Polar Bears. American Indians would count coup by riding close to an enemy and touching them or cutting off a part of their garment.

And these guys kill and eat rabbits, and our liberals go to protests in free countries make outrageous claims against authority figures, and it is all counted as courage, all the same.

95 merav  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:06:58pm

Disemboweling an animal known for being gentle and timid.

Boy, that's heroic.

96 rcris5  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:07:02pm

Bet the Canadians can't match that.

97 freya4freedom  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:07:09pm

Utterly barbaric.

98 ec marm  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:07:47pm

#1 taxfreekiller

At least they set Jummy Crater free of his demon.

Excellent! There must be a young crowd here today that doesn't remember the "killer rabbit" episode of Jhimmi Carter and the swamp rabbit, where he flailed away with a boat oar at a rabbit that was swimming in his direction.

/wiki if you don't believe it

99 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:09:06pm

#91- Evan- Not a huge fan of Shimon Peres, but he didn't say anything that wasn't true (or stated previously and more eloquently by Mark Steyn).

100 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:09:11pm

#20 NoSub...

Awful. Cruel. Meaningless.

I agree.

What is it about (some) men and the need to rip innocent stuff apart?

101 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:10:42pm

I watched a show on winter survival training for members of the US military.

One of the first things they must do is trap a rabbit, kill it first, and then suck out its eyeballs.
The point of the exercise is not some blood/power/dominance/victory ceremony, but that to really survive when things are difficult, one may not have the luxury of eating only what appeals to one. And in a real survival situation, one may have to eat every single piece of anything one is lucky enough to catch.

Thus eating the eyeball.

If you can get the gross out of the way, you can eat anything.

This doesn't apply here, but the story certainly made me think of it.

Any lizards who have experience with this training better than my "I saw it on TV" feel free to chime in.

102 Mr Kufr  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:10:51pm

#61 spider mensch
That was my thought too, if they are so big, bad and mean, lets see them try that on a pit bull. Might even get entertaining.

103 Lazarus  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:10:59pm

Oh, yeah, that culture is definitely ready for freedom and individual rights and losing brave American men and women for.

104 nodhimmimate  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:11:31pm

OMG- I thought I've seen it all until now.

105 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:12:03pm

#76 religion of bacon
I think one of the points he's missing is that the blog readers are obligated to check thier own facts. Bloggers have a well informed readership that will turn on them quickly if they aren't honest but there's no obligation to be "balanced". There are plenty of faults on both sides of the blogoshpere but I think the WSJ editor is just bitter about the decline of the MSM.

106 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:12:42pm
107 Kirly  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:14:49pm

#11 FredLee

There has been much made of the mistreatment of women in Muslim culture. The horrible abuse of animals is another manifestation of the "submission" that the weak must feel toward the strong.

It it not commonly known that animal abusers grow up to be psychopaths? Gee, never would have guessed about the islamics, would ya? /sarc

Kirly

108 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:15:12pm

Yummy. But it could use a little salt.

109 jehu  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:15:19pm

FrogMarch 100

What is it about (some) men and the need to rip innocent stuff apart?

Out of style today but it used to be known as the "fallen Adamic nature." Same impulse in (some) women to rip their babies to shreds while still in the womb all in the name of sexual freedom.

110 Eagle  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:15:37pm

#56 Killgore Trout

Although he does make some valid points he's just another douchebag with a theraurus.


New rotating title?

111 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:16:38pm
112 Chuck Pelto  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:17:58pm

TO: Charles Johnson, et al
RE: Just In Time for the 'Season'[ing]

You PETA watch out.
You PETA not cry.
You PETA behave.
I'm tell'n ya why.

Sanity Clause is com'n to town...

Merry Christmas...

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. I can think of a number of Ranger classes that would LOVE to do the same to anything they could lay their hands on in the last phase of the course.

It was a sorry water mocassin that crossed our patrol's path. You could hear the machettes snick out of their scabards. A quick 'smack' and someone would have extra rations for dinner. But as there was 'light discipline' in effect, it might be eaten raw.

113 Thor-Zone  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:18:02pm

Our friends the Iraqis

114 sakublock  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:18:03pm

...AND THATS WHAT WE NEED ANOTHER 100 BILLION FOR!

115 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:19:13pm

#71 TotallySirius

Rabbits are not rodents (any more):

Rabbits and hares were formerly classified in the order Rodentia (rodent) until 1912, when they were moved into a new order Lagomorpha. This order, in addition to containing rabbits and hares, also includes the pikas.

That article has some facinating trivia:

Humans' relationship with the European or ‘true’ rabbit was first recorded by the Phoenicians over 1,000 years BC, when they termed the Iberian Peninsula i-shfaním (literally, "the land of the hyraxes"). This phrase is pronounced absolutely identically in modern Hebrew, i (אי) meaning "island" and shafan (שפן) meaning "hyrax", shfaním (שפנים) being the plural form. Phoenicians called the local rabbits "hyraxes" because hyraxes resemble rabbits in some way, and probably were more common than rabbits at that time in their native Levant. Hyraxes, like rabbits, are not rodents. The Romans converted the phrase i-shfaním to its Latin form, Hispania, and hence the modern word "Spain".
116 Thor-Zone  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:19:15pm

These guys need to quit screwing around eating rabbits and get on with the task of killing terrorists. Things in Baghdad are really getting out of hand.

117 Occasional Reader  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:19:39pm

Sorry, I don't see the big deal here.

I have read of other special operations forces (not ours, that I know of) that kill small animals as part of their training, basically to demonstrate/engender fierceness. I have no idea whether this is an effective or optimal technique; just saying, this is not the first time I've heard of it.

makes it a bit difficult to feel enthusiastic about these forces being a civilizing influence

The Iraqi special forces are not there to be a civilizing influence; they are there to kill bad guys.

118 loppyd  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:21:27pm

Nighty night, All.

Don't mess with the mighty rabbit...

119 ZionistYoungster  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:22:13pm

OT: all you Christian lizards! Getcha your daily dose of Leftist blasphemy (from CounterPuke):

Jesus is a Terrorist, by Johnny Barber.

Condensed message: Jesus deserves to be labeled "terrorist" because he, just like the Palestinians, lived under a brutal foreign occupation. Presented in doggerel form.

120 Chuck Pelto  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:23:42pm

TO: Occasional Reader
RE: We...

"I have no idea whether this is an effective or optimal technique; just saying, this is not the first time I've heard of it." -- Occasional Reader

The Ranger course does it to teach people they can kill, skin, clean and eat animals in the wild, if need be, to survive.

They brought out a bunch of chickens for us around mid-course and taught the city-slickers amongst us how to do it.

Best meal we'd had in weeks, as we made a stew of the birds having killed, skinned and cleaned the assorted carrots, potatoes, tomatoes and celery they brought along with the fowl.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. After that the water mocassins became 'wary' and/or scarce.

121 rcris5  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:24:29pm

the French had to be crawling in there skins...fresh frog and no white wine to go with it.

122 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:25:02pm

109 Jehu

and some women...

I don't mind killing and eating animals, I just don't understand why it can't be done in a way that shows respect.

(yes -and i'm still a conservative)

123 Chuck Pelto  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:25:21pm

TO: Zionist Youngster
RE: Terror, Indeed

"Jesus is a Terrorist, by Johnny Barber." -- Zionist Youngster

But only to the Sanhedrin.

Merry Christmas, youngster.

Happy Hanukaha too.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

124 CowardKerry  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:27:42pm

Are we sure this isn't a photoshop of Ozzy biting off a bats head? It is the AP you know...

125 khamr  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:28:28pm

Santorum for President

126 Silhouette  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:29:28pm

#117 Occasional Reader

kill small animals as part of their training

Not to repeat my #101, but the training I saw involved killing and sucking the eyeballs out of a rabbit, not for fierceness, but to drive home the point that in order to survive, one has to eat the yucky parts.*

*I'm pretty sure the military didn't use the work "yucky."

127 FrogMarch  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:29:36pm

119 ZionistY...

Another leftist who doesn't make any sense.
First, leftists hate Christians.
Second, leftists identify with and adore the eternal victim "it's their land boo hoo" Palestinians.

128 akak  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:30:08pm

oh shiite!

Mr Baker's portfolio is gonna take a hit on this one

Report: U.S. secretly cultivating Syrian opposition to Assad

Haaretz

by the way, if you were to say bypass US Sanctions on Iraq in the Clinton years-what are the criminal penalties for such actions?

129 Bunny1941  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:31:22pm

Maybe I should join with James Baker and the Iraq Surrender Group after all. I'll not be disturbed if the other side find one of their clever uses for portable power drills to try on this guy!

But then given my username, I wouldn't, would I?

130 froghat  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:31:27pm

Maybe they are fans of Alice Cooper?

131 jwm  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:32:55pm

I'd be more impressed if they used a porcupine.

JWM

132 FabioC.  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:34:34pm

Ah, what a huge deal. Another initiation ritual for warriors; like those never existed. Yeah, more gory and more gross than usual, but apart from that?

They're not Jews, so the Jewish prohibition against eating live animals doesn't really apply.

And if these guys prove tough and loyal in combat, does it ever matter if they do some gross ritual shit?

133 hunter888  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:34:39pm

Alice never bit the head off anything

134 ZionistYoungster  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:35:33pm

#127 FrogMarch

They hate the Bible except the parts they can use for their own Marxist, West-hating ends (look, for instance, at the part where he speaks of "David and Goliath" in his piece).

Gotta go to sleep, tomorrow is a longish day.

135 markx  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:38:47pm

#103 Lazarus

Oh, yeah, that culture is definitely ready for freedom and individual rights and losing brave American men and women for.

Yeah, brother, I'm with you. I’m the most Kool-Aid drinking, Rove lovin’, Bush suppporting lizardoid on this site, but enough is enough.

These asshats aren't deserving of our sacrifice.

136 yesandno  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:39:43pm

Silly Rabbit...told you Trix (tricks?) were for kids...

137 hayseed  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:39:53pm

don't do the brown acid..


138 hunter888  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:39:58pm

"Alice's version of the infamous "chicken" incident was that someone from the audience threw a chicken onstage and Alice, thinking chickens could fly, threw it up over the audience and watched it fall into the crowd at which point the audience tore it apart. The next day, the headlines read: "Alice bites head off chicken and drinks blood".

The Toronto Rock & Roll Revival Festival in September 1969 was the source of all the Alice Cooper chicken rumours.

139 FabioC.  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:41:31pm

ploome, ploome... what could we do without your not so veiled anymore attempts to demonstrate that Muslims/Arabs are sub-human and thus genocide is just jolly old fun?

140 Occasional Reader  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:44:44pm

#103 and #135: Are you really sure you want to know everything our own special operations forces do in their training?

Folks, we're really getting this bent out of shape over bunnies?

141 brenda  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:45:29pm

Gratuitous cruelty to animals is common throughout the third world.

Diversity Is Strength! It’s Also… Cruelty To Animals

142 Occasional Reader  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:47:21pm

Ah, FabioC, I was a happier man until you pointed out that post to me... CHARLES, CLEANUP IN AISLE #58, thank you.

143 Joseph  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:48:25pm

Could always be worse.. Could have been a rabbi!

144 hunter888  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:51:36pm

OR

What about #59?

145 easy  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:53:24pm

"Kill the Wabbit".

I don't recall any specific survival training in the military, although we would have eaten about anything, alive or dead, in Ranger school. Good thing it was winter.

146 rcris5  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 12:57:06pm

Think they are supposed to kiss the frog.

147 M. Bensson-Levi  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:00:14pm

These are just dipshits assholes!

This is what you do to a rabbit!

ELMER KILLS BUGS!

148 samhein  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:01:07pm

What is it with these "people"? Plus, it is well known that cruelty to animals many times doesn't stop there.

And this action wasn't to eat, it was a sick way to show they were "big men" by ripping apart one of the shyist creatures on the planet.

this is more than getting bent about a rabbit. I think we're seeing more and more what these people really are.

149 FabioC.  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:03:41pm

Just to be on the safe side, I think that this is overly brutal and pointless the same.

But please, who has never, ever, killed any animal pointlessly please cast the first stone.

150 aqvik  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:06:52pm

So here's what I don't get: if you're gonna put raw rabbit in your mouth, why wear gloves?

Just askin'...

151 shimra  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:07:02pm

Waiting to hear from PETA in 5-4-3-2...

/crickets

152 mollyshark  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:07:38pm

#149 FabioC.

You think most people go around killing animals pointlessly? On purpose?

153 Asena  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:10:23pm

"Well we don't know about our counter-insurgency capabilities, but our perimeter defense against rabbits is the best in the whole world."

154 hayseed  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:17:22pm

i killed a robin with a bb gun...never mind

155 calcajun  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:18:21pm

Obviously, it is a Muslim tradition to eat rabbits in this way after the way a zionist rabbit repeatedly insulted the great, though somewhat obscure (owing to a slight speech impediment), muslim prophet, "El Mer Fy'Uhd"

They gnosh down on the hapless hossenfeffer to the chants of "Kill the Wabbit".

Can't mess with other folks' traditions.

156 Live4Truth  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:20:17pm
but this little vignette ... makes it a bit difficult to feel enthusiastic about these forces being a civilizing influence.

Yep.

From what I hear from troops returning home, the problem with the Iraqi military is that they have no self-discipline. For example: They go haywire when the fighting starts, they don't charge in after the bad guys, and they waste ammo by not aiming carefully.

Ripping apart bunny rabbits isn't going to change that, nor is it a sign of toughness. All it shows is sadism, and callousness to the suffering of a thoroughly innocent and non-threatening creature. The exact opposite of what is necessary for freedom and democracy to prevail. Protecting and defending the innocent is what the military and police must do.

157 FabioC.  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:22:02pm

No, but I think there is very few people who can claim they've never been cruel to an animal.

It's also amusing to see many folks turn into rabid ALF fanatics when it's about Muslims.

158 Sardonicus  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:24:43pm

#59

When disgusted I often feel like incinerating a few million people my self.

159 guest77  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:27:04pm

Where are the PETA people when you need them? Do you think it would violate Islamic law to have posters in Iraq of Pamala Anderson naked but holding a rabbit to cover the naughty parts with caption "DON'T BE CRUEL TO AMINALS" or "DON'T EAT MEAT."

160 squarepeg  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:27:44pm

#117

I'm with you.

Recently my cat dragged in a stunned rabbit that struggled out of its stupor and dragged itself by its front quarters under my couch. Helpless female me called the Humane Society to come take care of it.

Former Marine across the street found out and looked at me as if I were crazy. He teaches survival courses in which he starts out by stroking a cute little fuzzy bunny . . . then snaps its neck, bites its fur, and skins it right in front of his onlookers, who get to eat it for their first dinner.

Although admittedly we don't know if the Iraqi stunt started with a humane neck-snapping, and that does make a difference.

161 scott in east bay  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:33:45pm

This reminds me of that story about the Iranian children kicking and beating puppies.

I will never, ever, EVER understand this "culture".

162 Live4Truth  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:42:30pm

#160 squarepeg

Yep. The point in the Marine training routine is survival, using nothing but bare hands. It's done in private, in front of other Marines who are learning survival skills.

The point of the Iraqi ceremony (based on the article) had nothing to do with survival. It was a display of viciousness, during a formal graduation parade, in front of thousands of civilians. Such an event should display your highest ambitions, such as, oh, maybe being defenders of civilization, peace, and order.

163 alfamale  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:42:34pm

Yum, Iraqi MRE's. How about some new rations for the Gitmo detainees?

164 cicadajoe  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:43:31pm

This is like a bad episode of Star Trek, where Kirk and Spock beam down to help the indiginous people, only to find out they prefer their own crazy ways to civilized ones.

Bush was lied to, as were we. We were told the Iraqis were educated and would understand and embrace Democracy. Educated people do not display their strength by killing bunnies with their teeth. These clowns should instead wrestle alligators or hump sting rays.

165 cbinflux  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:46:02pm

Just something they picked up from the Elite Fwench Farces; eat strange, funky and/or live things to instill fear in the hearts of your enemies -- and then RUN LIKE HELL!

166 cbinflux  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:47:11pm

p.s. How's come that even with four feet leftover, they never seem to get lucky?!

167 Alouette  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:47:28pm
168 takanhorse  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:48:20pm

My husband is SF, and he has eaten some really (really) interesting things. He won't tell me too much because I am such an animal lover. Don't tell him I told y'all this, but if he comes to bed (when he isn't in Iraq, that is) and the cats have already gotten comfortable on his side of the bed, he will go into these great contortions so he doesn't disturb them. Even worse, before our Jack Russell went to doggie heaven, he would curl up with his head on my husband's pillow, and my husband would wrap his arm around him and cover him up with the quilt and they would snore away together. It was beyond cute (for a frame of reference, my husband is 6'3 1/2, high and tight hair cut and looks the part of an Army SF guy, our Jack was 13 pounds).

169 Clutch  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 1:50:26pm

The horror, the horror... more very graphic evidence as to how the American military is making life miserable for Iraqi children. Oh the shame of being an American... the cannibalism in the fifth shot in the series is just too much for my old heart to take...

/snark...

170 sngnsgt  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 2:05:19pm

When in Rome I suppose. If this 'ceremony' means they're going to take charge and defend their own country, bye bye Fluffy.

/reminded I have a rabbits foot laying around here somewhere

171 Airedale  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 2:10:00pm

Hassenfeffer !
it's whats for dinner

172 squarepeg  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 2:13:04pm

#162 live4

True, the "display" is different from survival.
I've been to some Marine graduation ceremonies, and I could sense the loyalty and toughness, all without live-animal consumption.

These Iraqis are different. One Iraqi former officer wrote about a ritual, essentially, in which he and others were forced to eat massive live cockroaches.

Adapt to the culture? Whatever it takes? Or maybe just plain . . . whatever.

173 brickthruplateglasswindow  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 2:14:02pm

Don't see the big deal here.

They've trained to be soldiers, not a Broadway cast.

I only want to know 2 things. Can and will they fight?

174 CastorOil  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 2:20:54pm

Cruelty to animals is just another symptom of their sick society along with cruelty to women, children, the disabled, and anybody or anything that cannot defend itself - disgusting barbaric culture. And they have the nerve to complain about colonization?

175 Kip  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 2:30:33pm

can I have some taters with my coneys Preciousss!

Kip

176 Kip  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 2:32:53pm

joking aside that's disgusting and vile and has nothing to do with showing how brave one is.

Kip

177 Crusader Rabbit  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 2:33:59pm
At one point, a small group of elite Iraqi special forces officers wearing dark green T-shirts stepped forward with a live rabbit and ripped it apart with their teeth.

The leader chomped out the animal’s heart with a yell, then passed around the blood-soaked carcass to his comrades, each of whom took a bite.

Barbarians. Evil, demented barbarians.

178 Airedale  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 2:45:14pm

Didn't Saddam go through a ritual of pulling a puppy apart,limb from limb back in his younger days?

yes, he did.

179 RTLM  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:04:55pm

That's the spirit! Now go do it to a Jihadi

180 bandarlog  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:14:02pm

What men! That'll put hare on their chests...

181 average_guy  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:15:32pm

#56 KT

Although he does make some valid points he's just another douchebag with a theraurus.


/and apparently no spell check...

182 Chuck Pelto  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:27:31pm

TO: Crusader Rabbit
RE: I Can Understand...

"Barbarians. Evil, demented barbarians." -- Crusader Rabbit

...your perspective.

Please understand the perspective of a hungry Ranger.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

183 Chuck Pelto  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:30:10pm

TO: alfa[lfa]male
RE: MREs!?!?!

"Yum, Iraqi MRE's. How about some new rations for the Gitmo detainees?" -- alfa[lfa]male

Actually...

...I'd rather have the rabbit.

I've HAD MREs. And I appreciate the acronym of Meals Refused by Ethiopians.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. But considering that rabbits do not have much fat on their body, please send along some olive oil.

184 illegal upchuck  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:36:53pm

Haram

Insects, Snake, Lizard, Gecko, Mice, Rats, Hedgehog, Jerboa, Weasel, Frog, Lion, Wolf, Jackal, Leopard, Tiger, Lynx, Cheetah, Panther, Fox, Cat, Squirrel, Fennel, Sable, Bear, Monkey, Ape, Elephant, Dog, Falcon, Hawk, Saker, Kite, Eagle, Vulture, Bat, Turtoise, Crocodile, Mongoose, Ferrent, Raven


Tried kite once. Got the kite string stuck in my throat.

/Charlie Brown

185 Crusader Rabbit  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:51:32pm

#182 Chuck Pelto


TO: Crusader Rabbit
RE: I Can Understand...

"Barbarians. Evil, demented barbarians." -- Crusader Rabbit

...your perspective.

Please understand the perspective of a hungry Ranger.

What does this pathetic public spectacle have to do with eating for survival?

[Hint: nothing]

186 Toby Petzold  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:52:10pm

I trust the frogs were lightly killed.

187 brickthruplateglasswindow  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:53:30pm
#184 illegal upchuck

Haram

Insects, Snake, Lizard, Gecko, Mice, Rats, Hedgehog, Jerboa, Weasel, Frog, Lion, Wolf, Jackal, Leopard, Tiger, Lynx, Cheetah, Panther, Fox, Cat, Squirrel, Fennel, Sable, Bear, Monkey, Ape, Elephant, Dog, Falcon, Hawk, Saker, Kite, Eagle, Vulture, Bat, Turtoise, Crocodile, Mongoose, Ferrent, Raven

Well that's a relief. So, that saying.. "they can kill you but they can't eat you," really is true. :)

188 Chuck Pelto  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:54:15pm

TO: Crusader Rabbit
RE: Public Spectacles

"What does this pathetic public spectacle have to do with eating for survival?

[Hint: nothing]" -- Crusader Rabbit

Perhaps.
Our butchering of living animals in order to eat was not a 'public spectacle'. But we butchered them anyway.

You would too, in the proper circumstances...

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[God is alive...and airborne-ranger qualified.]

189 Crusader Rabbit  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:57:43pm

The described spectacle is to "butchering" for fodd what al-Quaeda video-taped executions are to euthanasia.

190 Chuck Pelto  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:57:51pm

TO: brickthruplateglasswindow
RE: Yeah...

"Well that's a relief. So, that saying.. "they can kill you but they can't eat you," really is true. :)" -- brickthruplateglasswindow

...but only outside of New Guinea and some other protein-deficient cultures.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. Ever see that movie Northwest Passage? Remember the 'funny little guy' with the sack he was 'munching' out of...and wouldn't share? Actually, he would 'share', but not until the others in the unit were hungry enough.

...Aaaahhh...sweetbreads...

191 Crusader Rabbit  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 3:58:23pm

fodd=food

PIMF

192 GreenSoccer  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 4:16:45pm

It sounds very non kosher.

193 American Soldier  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 4:27:30pm

When I took my first SERE course, we learned to check the rabbit's liver before we took a bite. Hope none of those blokes gets tularemia.

194 Timbre  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:00:34pm

Can you say tularemia? Sure...I knew you could.

195 Timbre  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:04:47pm

Jimmy Carter hated rabbits also...

196 takanhorse  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:09:15pm

#193 American Soldier

The SERE course, not for the faint of heart. When I got some of what happened in the Q course, I realized right away, you guys are NOT wired right. Don't take that the wrong way, I married one of you knowing full well that for you all if you aren't living right on the edge, you aren't living. You have moments of calm, but they are few and short! It cracks me up, my husband will come home from what ever it is you SF super secret guys do for days (months) at a time, sit in the house for a day, and then go repelling off some cliff for fun and relaxation. Oh well, it is never boring around y'all!

197 torontoguy  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:15:04pm

What... the... fu#K?

198 pauldanish  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 5:54:31pm

Syrian commando passing out ceremonies used to feature the troops biting the heads off live snakes as they passed in review.

That's the trouble with Iraqis. No standards.

199 jwm  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 6:17:23pm

I want to see them do a camel that way.

JWM

200 Gadfly  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 6:48:41pm
Elite Iraqi forces have demonstrated their toughness by chewing on live animals during military ceremonies since the time of Saddam Hussein’s rule.

Emulating their glorious past so soon?

201 carefulnow  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 7:36:38pm

So if Ozzy Osborne's current gig doesn't work out, he can geek for Iraq, eh?

202 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 8:00:50pm

#157 FabioC.

No, but I think there is very few people who can claim they've never been cruel to an animal.

It's also amusing to see many folks turn into rabid ALF fanatics when it's about Muslims.

We all turn into rabid Gordon Shumway fanatics?

203 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 8:47:55pm

There was a Frontline documentary on this animal cruelty some years back, before BDS set in. They had footage of some of Hussein's Revolutionary Guards "celebrating" their graduation by ganging up on live dogs and tearing them limb from limb. I wanted to bomb them back to the Stone Age right then.

Failing that, have them executed in the old-fashioned way of being tied between two horses and pulled apart.

204 Dbix  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 9:25:14pm

Terrific-
If Al Quaida attacks them with rabbits and frogs they got the training to handle it. Something tells me that our guys won't be "just up the road" for long.

205 Maximu§  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 9:39:17pm

#156 Live4Truth nailed it.

I never had to eat a live animal during my tour of duty in the Army, just eating at the chowhall was bad enough!

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

206 Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 9:54:18pm

Such lovely people. Let's send our kids to die there so they can have a democracy.

207 Super Jew  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:50:33pm

#5 FredLee

You beat me to it. You know it's one of the Seven Noachide Mitzvot, right? Not to eat a limb torn from a living animal. Heck, "treyf" (usually translated as non-kosher, for our friends here unfamiliar with the lingo) literally means "torn".

See, I always thought it was common in the ancient world to chop parts off of animals and keep them alive so they could have fresh meat for longer, what without proper refridgeration.

Now I know that some folks do so to prove their manliness.

Nothing says "I'm one badass motherfucker" quite like biting a chunk out of a live bunny. Don't you guys agree?

208 Confuzed  Wed, Dec 20, 2006 11:59:59pm

Do that to a lion or other "stronger" carnivore then I'll be impressed.

209 jaydee  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 1:24:06am

I nearly threw up.
(what a bunch of sick strange morons)

210 annelid[deleted]  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 3:48:56am
211 Hang a Ralph  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 3:57:29am

Boy Howdy, we need to send in a full batallion of PETA special forces troops to rescue those poor bunnies. :)

212 annelid[deleted]  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 4:01:12am
213 Hazmat  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 4:48:35am

Tastes like chicken!

214 hillbilly geek  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 4:58:32am

Oh, let's give them their own state!
... oh, wait...
.
.
.
good thing they didn't try that with Bugs Bunny.

215 Golem14  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 5:52:43am

#90 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Were they Crunchy Frogs?

Maybe they were some sort of mock frogs...

216 Micky D  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 6:21:00am

"The rabbit's dreamy eyes grow dreamier
As he quietly gives us Tularemia"

Ogden Nash

217 CCR  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 7:51:29am

Weren't frogs in the haram list? Wouldn't that make biting the head off a frog as bad as eating pork?

218 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 8:06:52am

#212 annelid

Guys, guys... if biting animals' heads off rendered people unable and unworthy of democracy, we would have had to declare Ozzy Osbourne ineligible to vote. :-D

Don't let this bother you... :-P

219 Live4Truth  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 8:44:17am

#218 NomadOfNorad


Guys, guys... if biting animals' heads off rendered people unable and unworthy of democracy, we would have had to declare Ozzy Osbourne ineligible to vote. :-D

Don't let this bother you... :-P

Nomad,

Ozzy's famous head-biting act was gruesome, and hardly a sign of the best of America. But it's a free country, and therefore he's free to do what he wants (within limits...).

But if, let's say, a newly elected president of the U.S. did it during his inauguration speech, then it would be a very bad sign of what America stood for, and where it was heading. The Iraqis did this as a display of viciousness at a formal graduation ceremony (probably the highest level of formality that these police and military recruits will ever experience) in front of thousands of civilian spectators.

The when/where/why/how/who of things like this, is everything for defining what it means.

220 mungagungadin  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 11:10:59am

Well,

I feel safer. The people of Iraq will be guarded by those who can monstrously murder a captured weak animal that doesn't even have claws or fangs. What would they do to a perpetrator (who deserves to be read his rights, not ripped apart with teeth) and what would they do to the average child in trouble? Children as also known to be held captive and do not possess claws or fangs.

I feel weird, here.

Why would anyone think this was a good idea?

221 Chuck Pelto  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 12:56:39pm

TO: Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo
RE: Yeah!

"Such lovely people. Let's send our kids to die there so they can have a democracy." -- Craig Abu Al-Boo-Boo

But train them as airborne-rangers, first. Then they can all sit around, drink beer and trade stories of what it is to be a REAL man.

Something I suspect you have no concept of. But, if you're under 45 years of age, you can still be one too.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[God is alive...and airborne-ranger qualified.]

222 Chuck Pelto  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 1:00:20pm

TO: illegal upchuck
RE: The Board of Fare

"Insects, Snake, Lizard, Gecko, Mice, Rats, Hedgehog, Jerboa, Weasel, Frog, Lion, Wolf, Jackal, Leopard, Tiger, Lynx, Cheetah, Panther, Fox, Cat, Squirrel, Fennel, Sable, Bear, Monkey, Ape, Elephant, Dog, Falcon, Hawk, Saker, Kite, Eagle, Vulture, Bat, Turtoise, Crocodile, Mongoose, Ferrent, Raven" -- illegal upchuck

I notice you left out crow.

Good thing.

According to the Gastronmique, there is only one one recipe for crow.

[1] Take a large pot.
[2] Fill it with assorted vegetables.
[3] Cover with water.
[4] Put pot on fire.
[5] Put lid on pot.
[6] Put crow on lid.
[7] When veggies are tender, throw away the crow and eat the veggies.

Bon appetite!

Regards,

Chuck(le)

223 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 2:55:39pm

I guess I just don't understand Arabs.

Obviously they think this is intimidating, but it just doesn't translate to English.

Would YOU be freightened by corps whoes claim to fame is killing fluffy bunnies? Oh and bad cooking.

The range of jokes possible is endless. I mean if you really were intimidated by those guys did you "turn tail and run" or should it be "turn tail and hop?"

224 Live4Truth  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 3:56:13pm

On the positive side, there's one thing we can be confident of: If bunny rabbits try to invade and take over Iraq, they'll be met with ruthless resistance by their special forces.

225 YourLastFour  Thu, Dec 21, 2006 7:07:52pm

#15 Wrote: "The AP needs to go take a look at the what our guys do at Ranger and Special Forces training."

It's not just Ranger and Special Forces training where this sort of thing is common practice. Aviators - at least Air Force aviators during their basic ground training - actually eat the eyeballs of rabbits after they kill them.

How do they kill the rabbits, you wonder? Me too. I asked that same question and was denied an answer (which is telling in and of itself).

226 Whiskey Rebel  Fri, Dec 22, 2006 12:18:54pm

Let's not freak out too much. Same thing happens during the survival phase of US Army Ranger school. At least it did when I went through in '83.


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