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Pork Soup is Not Racist in France

Wed, Jan 3, 2007 at 6:16:07 pm PST

I hope you’re sitting down, because a French court has ruled that pork soup is not racist.

PARIS (Reuters) - A French court ruled Tuesday that an organization with far-right links can continue offering pork soup to the homeless, rejecting police complaints that the food distribution was racist.

Police banned the soup kitchen last month, arguing that the handouts discriminated against Jews and Muslims who do not eat pork on religious grounds.

The administrative court said the distribution was “clearly discriminatory,” but could not be stopped because the organizers offered to feed anyone who asked for help.

The mayor of Paris condemned the ruling and urged the police to appeal the ruling.

“Faced by this initiative which stinks of xenophobia, I want once again to express city hall’s desire to fight all forms of discrimination, racism and anti-Semitism,” mayor Bertrand Delanoe said in a statement.

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1 AZ Lizard Kisser  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:17:19pm

Awesome! Boy, I can sleep good tonight. Thanks, Frawnce!

2 mama winger  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:18:45pm

I had ham for Christmas


I should be ashamed of myself.

3 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:18:46pm

Some people have way too much time on their hands.

4 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:19:13pm

The LGF main page is totally out of whack. Anyone else see this?

5 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:19:34pm
...rejecting police complaints that the food distribution was racist.

The police think it's racist because they're in solidarity with the pigs.

6 Irving  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:19:42pm

"stinks of xenophobia"?

Have you ever smelled pork soup?

7 Rain Patriot  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:20:04pm

#4 JammieWearingFool

Is your left column enormous and middle column tiny as well?

8 Joseph  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:20:08pm

Man, you can't make this stuff up!

9 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:20:13pm

Soup Nazis aren't real then, huh?

10 jrdroll  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:20:25pm

That's all folks

11 Rain Patriot  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:20:33pm

Heh, it fixed itself as soon as I submitted that last post.

12 Dov (In the Astrodome City) Republic of Texas  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:21:22pm

I am Jewish

and if it is to save my life, Pork is allowed. However the Muslims have a problem.

Feed em bacon, slightly cooked and greasy as heck

13 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:21:26pm

Rotating title.

14 mama winger  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:22:00pm

Jammie - my screen looks fine. Firefox.

15 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:22:19pm
“Faced by this initiative which stinks of xenophobia, I want once again to express city hall’s desire to fight all forms of discrimination, racism and anti-Semitism,” mayor Bertrand Delanoe said in a statement.

How about showing some desire to fight crime, instead?

16 texanista  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:22:27pm

Well I just finished a bag of pork rinds :) YUM YUM barbqued no less!

17 Airedale  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:22:59pm

psst, don't eat the FREE soup, eat the FREE crusty french bread and butter.

Maybe they should close all free-be soup kitchens and welfare handouts to appease the offended ?

18 nextstopmars  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:23:09pm

#6 Irving

"stinks of xenophobia"?

Have you ever smelled pork soup?

Well if they can have their eau de mujahedeen, and the French smell anyway ...

Maybe we should all wear bacon necklaces to keep safe, like garlic and vampires?

19 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:23:54pm

I have Firefox as well. It's OK now.

20 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:24:17pm

Take me to your Porkish Unterfuhrer.

21 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:25:05pm
The administrative court said the distribution was “clearly discriminatory,”

Wrong. It's the clientelle that are discriminitory. The food is handed out without any consideration of race, creed, etc.

22 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:25:23pm

Coincidentally, I have pork roast on the menu for tomorrow evening. Not only do I cook, I plan ahead.

23 rustinpuppets  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:25:36pm

Any meat they serve up is going to be treif or non-halal (whatever that is) anyway.

24 jrdroll  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:25:45pm
Zucchini and Pork Soup
INGREDIENTS

* 4 pork chops
* 1/2 cup all-purpose flour
* 2 teaspoons vegetable oil
* 1 onion, chopped
* 2 teaspoons chopped garlic
* 1 cup chopped red bell pepper
* 2 zucchinis, quartered and sliced
* 1/8 cup chopped sun-dried tomatoes
* 8 ounces fresh mushrooms, sliced
* 1 (14.5 ounce) can diced tomatoes
* 2 (14.5 ounce) cans chicken broth
* 2 tablespoons oyster sauce
* 2 teaspoons dried basil
* 1 teaspoon dried oregano
* salt and pepper to taste
* 4 tablespoons grated Parmesan cheese

DIRECTIONS

1. Place flour in a resealable plastic bag. Add pork cubes. Seal bag and shake to coat. In a large skillet, heat 1 teaspoon oil over medium high heat. Add pork and brown in oil for about 8 to 10 minutes. Set aside.
2. In a 5 to 8 quart soup pot, heat remaining teaspoon of oil over medium heat. Add the onions, garlic and bell pepper. Saute for just a few minutes until tender, but not browned.
3. Add reserved pork, zucchini, sun-dried tomato bits, mushrooms, diced tomatoes, chicken broth, oyster sauce, basil, oregano, salt and pepper. Heat until almost boiling, then reduce heat and simmer for 10 to 15 minutes. Sprinkle with cheese and serve.


[Link: allrecipes.com...]

25 ic  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:26:03pm

Why doesn't the righteous mayor offer the homeless a home? Better than pork soup any day.

26 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:26:13pm

Did someone really argue that a charity had to offer a specific type of food to homeless people so as if not to offend anyone?

What is next...all food HAS to be Kosher or Halal? I'm a Jew that doesn't eat pork...but I think that argument is gelastic.

But then again, I'd support a ruling that said that charities didn't have to hand out charity to Jews at all.

As far as Wrath is concerned, a charity can give out whatever it wants to whoever it wants whenever it wants.

Sheeesh!

27 mama winger  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:26:28pm

#22 JWF

Not only do I cook, I plan ahead.

Where were you when I was still interested? :)

28 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:26:37pm

I'm glad the French cleared that up.

Maybe now they'll concentrate on whether planting new trees along the Champs-Élysées is part of a plan to capitulate to the Germans before they attack in the future. The Germans sure don't like parading in Paris unless it's in the shade. Might get sunburn. /necessary?

29 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:28:26pm

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but what ever happened to "beggars can't be chosers?

30 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:29:21pm

Vast Porcine Conspiracy.

31 Rain Patriot  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:29:23pm

#13 Earth2moonbat

Motion seconded.

32 Beagle  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:30:06pm

So the Mayor of Paris would rather starve the poor than offend people with restricted diets. How... progressive.

33 RadicalRon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:30:09pm

Muslim Council of Fwancistan to begin seeting in 5...4...3...

34 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:30:17pm
7 mama winger 1/3/2007 06:26PM PST

#22 JWF

Not only do I cook, I plan ahead.

Where were you when I was still interested? :)

Slaving away over a hot stove somewhere.

35 easy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:30:49pm

Let them eat pork.

36 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:32:55pm
The mayor of Paris condemned the ruling and urged the police to appeal the ruling.

The ham-head mayor of Paris is just another example of what we've come to expect from these Halal Eating Surrender Monkeys. Ñùke Mëcçá

37 Beagle  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:33:23pm
38 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:34:00pm

Not OT: Mermphis is Pork (BBQ)

A Mermphis driver was on his way to Nashville when he got stuck in a traffic jam on I-40.

Nothing was moving east or west bound.

Suddenly a man knocks on his window.

The driver rolls down his window and asks, "What happened?" What's the hold up?

The man replied "Terrorists have kidnapped the Mayor (PBUH) and the Memphis City Council! They are asking for a $100 million ransom. Otherwise they are going to douse them with gasoline and set them on fire! We are going from car to car, taking up a collection."

The driver sheepishly asks, "On average how much is everyone giving?"

"About a gallon."

39 Thor-Zone  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:34:05pm

I am glad Pork Soup is not racist. I love pork chops, pork loin, bacon and ham.

40 FredFryInternational  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:34:24pm

And just what type of soup is the mayor giving away?

41 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:34:31pm
Police banned the soup kitchen last month, arguing that the handouts discriminated against Jews and Muslims who do not eat pork on religious grounds.

Are there homeless Jews in Paris?

Either way, I doubt someone who is truly hungry is going to be worrying about what's in the soup.

Perhaps during Lent I can pretend to be a bum and wander into some shelter on a Friday and whine if meat is being served.

42 carridine  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:34:41pm

This is like an incident reported first-hand: "She said, 'Yes, I'm a whore, but I'm a MUSLIM whore so I won't DO THAT for you!'"

Oh, really?

43 christheprofessor  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:35:21pm

I wonder how they feel about Pork Salad Annie, by Elvis the Pelvis?

44 ErislDysnomia  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:37:34pm

26 WrathofG-d


Did someone really argue that a charity had to offer a specific type of food to homeless people so as if not to offend anyone?

What is next...all food HAS to be Kosher or Halal? I'm a Jew that doesn't eat pork...but I think that argument is gelastic.

Umm, Jews are allowed to eat pork if they're starving, no? Homeless people are not exactly living in luxury...

Knowing Islam, though, the penalty for eating pork even if starving is probably stoning or beheading...

45 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:38:13pm

#25 ic

Why doesn't the righteous mayor offer the homeless a home? Better than pork soup any day.

You've missed a few posts; they're already appropriating buildings and churches. They don't need no steenkin' mayor -- and gendarmes fear them.

46 mbruce  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:38:21pm

Oh #25, they plan on giving the homeless FREE housing sure enough.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

47 mama winger  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:38:25pm

CARRADINE!

I'm trying to contact you! Can you send me an email so I can email back?

Thanks!

48 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:38:49pm

Gee, they make it seem like that kitchen only serves pork soup - nothing else. Or are these people bringing the law suit not allowed in a facility that serves pork?

j

49 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:39:11pm

OT (as interesting as not eating pork is)

Better Elvis: Just say NO kids, just say NO

50 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:39:18pm
51 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:40:08pm

Pork Soup is not racist?

Cant say. I never met him.

But what kinda parent names their kid Pork Soup.

52 galloping granny  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:40:16pm

It seems to me that to require anyone to follow the religious tenents of any particular faith under the guise of "non-discrimination" is in itself a discriminatory act and constitutes the establishment of a particular religion by the state.

The homeless of France are quite lucky to get free soup - you might remember the people they evicted a couple of years back that were living in tents in Paris in the dead of winter. Those who are too particular to eat free soup can request help from other followers of their particular faith.

/France always has gone WAY overboard.

53 Midwestprof  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:40:35pm

I made "pork soup" just the other day from the leftover New Year's ham. Since my father was a baker in the Navy in WW2, he had a very good recipe for ham & navy bean soup. I make it whenever there is leftover ham. Selfish me, though, I never thought to extend an invitation to our Muslim community for the soup. I think the soup would add a little extra to the Eau de Mujahideen discussed previously.

54 Bobblehead  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:40:39pm
Police banned the soup kitchen last month, arguing that the handouts discriminated against Jews and Muslims who do not eat pork on religious grounds.

Please..As if the French care about discrimination against Jews. LOL

55 phoenixgirl  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:41:06pm

My parents taught me that beggars can't be choosers.

56 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:42:50pm

...and another thing.
When did Paris get homeless people?
Is Reagan mayor of Paris?
Thats all I heard when Ron was prez and the enconomy was doing so well.
The MSM had homeless people news 24/7.
Funny, they all disapeared when Clinton got elected.
Maybe they moved to Paris?

57 NoSubmission  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:43:24pm

That would make a superb rotating title!

I finally finished my report on the counter protest we had at the anti-war rally last night in Union Square Park. If you want to take a look...

58 thecapitalist  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:43:52pm

#40
Yikes, you don't want to know what kind of soup is being handed out by the gay Paris mayor...

59 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:43:56pm

Pork soup isn't racist.

It does sound a little disgusting though.

60 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:44:18pm
61 tokyobk  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:44:29pm

Wonder how many Jews are affected by this? Jews are so convenient for the advance of Sharia, huh?

BTW a friend of mine in Tokyo tells me there is not a single Japanese-American on welfare in California. Does any one know if this is true, or how to find out? Seems impossible, but he was involved in Orange county politics and said he found that out at the time (early 90's).

Just wondering in this vein about culture and poverty.

62 Charles  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:45:23pm

I suspect very few French Jews are offended by the pork soup handouts.

63 galloping granny  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:45:51pm
#53 Midwestprof 1/3/2007 06:40PM PST

I made "pork soup" just the other day from the leftover New Year's ham. Since my father was a baker in the Navy in WW2, he had a very good recipe for ham & navy bean soup. I make it whenever there is leftover ham. Selfish me, though, I never thought to extend an invitation to our Muslim community for the soup. I think the soup would add a little extra to the Eau de Mujahideen discussed previously.

Ours went into the Split Pea soup - also a very good recipe. Pretty meaty ham bone. This batch really should have been called Ham Soup. Boy was it good! I never thought to extend any invites either. Matter of fact, I locked the doors and had thirds :)

64 formercorpsman  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:46:36pm

Actually had grilled chops tonight.

Lets take up a collection and send them jars, and jars of gefilte fish.

Mel Brooks couldn't write this stuff up.

This actually had to go to a french court?

I serve them any and every ethnic food aside from what they want.

Because in the end, is it really about the palate anyway?

65 chopper18  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:46:38pm

How typically Fwench of the Mayor to be on the wrong side of every issue. I hear he wasn't scared but passed lotsa soldiers who were while beating a hasty retreat from the Krauts.

66 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:46:53pm
67 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:46:53pm

#39 thor-zone

I love pork chops, pork loin, bacon and ham.

Anyway, like I was sayin', pork is the fwuit of Fwance. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. There, uh, pork kabobs, pork creole...

ANOTHER DAY

Bubba and Forrest shine their boots.

BUBBA
...pork gumbo, panfried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple pork, lemon pork, coconut pork, pepper pork...

ANOTHER DAY

Bubba and Forrest are on their hands and knees as they scrub the floor with toothbrushes.

BUBBA
...pork soup, pork stew, pork salad, pork and potatoes, pork burger, pork sandwich... that's, that's about it.

68 SkyeChild  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:48:05pm

Are the muslims and Jews being FORCE-fed the soup or forced to eat there? Geeze...

If they don't want it, they don't have to eat there. That isn't rocket science...

69 solomonpanting  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:48:12pm

Cindy Sheehan has now been reclassified as a gadfly.

70 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:48:21pm

#53 midwestprof

Tonight, ours went into some EXCELLENT pasta fagioli

71 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:48:29pm
72 jrdroll  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:49:24pm
Police banned the soup kitchen last month,

Easier I guess than banning Peugot flambe.

73 jake341  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:49:26pm

Pork soup...Nope, not ringin any bells...
How 'bout Pork and the Havana Ducks?
[Link: members.aol.com...]

74 formercorpsman  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:50:03pm
EXCELLENT pasta fagioli

Oh yeah,,, the tears are comin to my eyes now.

Mmmm, thoughts of my very italian grandmother.

75 Luigi  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:50:04pm

Anyone else noticed that amidst the doom and gloom there are some sparks of hope in the war with the jihad? In fact, '07 comes in on a rather high note.

1) Somalia. We won and they lost. For the time being.

2) The Palis. At war with each other and gearing up for a bigger war. We're winning by default.

3) Lebanon. The Iran-backed Hezbos haven't been able to push thru their people-power display into real political gains. Yet. Pan Arab political pressure and lots of Gulf money is against them, and for stability. Tie goes to us. So far.

4) Iraq. Wasn't the 'slide into civil war' supposed to be irreversible and gaining momentum? I'm not seeing it, for the moment.

76 maddogg  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:50:08pm

Give 'em mountain oysters!

77 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:50:18pm

I'm a Jew. If I were hungry, I'd eat pork.

What the hell are wrong with these people? And why the hell are governments coddling them?

78 bohman  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:51:36pm

we are all now dumber for having read this.

79 LSD  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:51:36pm

OT: So Keith Ellison is going to use Thomas Jefferson's Koran ... Here's why Jefferson had a Koran ...

From AMERICAN SPHINX The Character of Thomas Jefferson by Joseph J. Ellis
"Several muslim countries along the North African coast had established the tradition of plundering the ships of European and American merchants in the western Mediterranean and eastern Atlantic, capturing the crews and then demanding ransom from the respective governments for their release. In a joint message to their superiors in Congress, Adams and Jefferson described the audacity of these terrorist attacks, pirates leaping onto defenseless ships with daggers clenched in their teeth. They had asked the ambassador from Tripoli, Adams and Jefferson explained, on what grounds these outrageous acts of unbridled savagery could be justified: "The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the laws of the prophet, that it was written in their koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their [islams] authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners..."
This event occured between 1784-1789 while Jefferson was ambassador to France and Adams (2nd president) was ambassador to England.
80 rabidfox  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:52:44pm

Midwestprof: Can/will you pass on the receipe? I'm still looking for a good navy bean soup. I love the Senate version, but I haven't been able to make it at home.

If the mayor wants to provide halal/kosher food, why doesn't he provide pc soup kitchens.

I seriously doubt that the poor that this group is feeding is really worried about the halalness of the food.

81 galloping granny  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:53:24pm
#61 tokyobk 1/3/2007 06:44PM PST

Wonder how many Jews are affected by this? Jews are so convenient for the advance of Sharia, huh?

BTW a friend of mine in Tokyo tells me there is not a single Japanese-American on welfare in California. Does any one know if this is true, or how to find out? Seems impossible, but he was involved in Orange county politics and said he found that out at the time (early 90's).

Just wondering in this vein about culture and poverty.

Is there a way to find out? Sure. The US Census Bureau keeps stats by city & state that include "nationality" income and the state keeps similar data. Might take some digging and statistical analysis but this is the kind of thing that would be done for people such as your friend.

Culture does have something to do with poverty, but more likely it is the strong emphasis placed on education in Japanese culture. Well educated people, especially those in high demand & technical fields, are less likely to become homeless.

82 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:54:00pm

For thousands of years Jews have had restrictions of food, clothing, interaction between men & women, prayer, well...just about everything you can think of...

But how often did you ever hear a Jew say that the entire society had to change to accomodate them?

(ok, I confess...there probably ARE some instances...but I can only think of some revolving around Xmas decorations on Government property)

83 McJenny50  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:55:53pm

Maybe the mayor and police have been through Muslim sensitivity training.

84 Bobblehead  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:55:55pm

I would think the mayor of Paris has more important issues to deal with than whether a charitable organization is ladling up bowls of pork soup. Maybe issues like all those burning cars?

85 mardukhai  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:55:58pm

I had intended to say "Soup Nazis" but someone beat me to it! Rats!

Actually, if they served chicken soup, but kept a dog nearby, that would be more on target...

86 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:56:26pm
87 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:56:40pm

#79 LSD

I've read about that before. Islam has been waging war against America since our inception.

/and I don't think George W. Bush was alive back then.

88 vrwc007  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:57:29pm

Pork the other white meat.

89 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:57:34pm
#52 galloping granny

Those who are too particular to eat free soup can request help from other followers of their particular faith.

Aren't Muslims required to support poor Muslims?

90 vrwc007  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:58:46pm

Pretty soon France will have Pork Easys right next to the Smoke Easys that opened after they banned smoking.

91 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:58:59pm

Why are they bringing the Jews into this, and "anti-semitism" (sic) as an argument to appease Muslim sensibilities when the number of Jews is miniscule compared to the number of Muslims, and the Jews are not homeless people seeking handouts of food? Let them continue to allow free food handouts by volunteers that serve pork soup. Who is forcing anybody to eat it? Do Muslims object if others are eating pork, or pork soup, and have they said so?

If the French authorities are serious about anti-semitism, let them do something about the violent attacks against Jews, such as the attack against the Jewish man who was kidnapped by Muslims, tortured, and ultimately murdered.

92 Midwestprof  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:59:45pm

#80 rabidfox

Midwestprof: Can/will you pass on the receipe? I'm still looking for a good navy bean soup. I love the Senate version, but I haven't been able to make it at home.

Click on the name "Midwestprof" in #53 above and drop me a note. I'll get back to you with the recipe ASAP. It's pretty simple since it was made on board ship in the War.

93 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 4:59:48pm
solomonpanting 1/3/2007 06:48PM PST

Cindy Sheehan has now been reclassified as a gadfly.

I call her The Thing That Wouldn't Leave.

Seems the clock is stuck on 14:59 with this hag.

94 saltmarsh  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:01:14pm

Well, hell.

Let them eat cake...

95 galloping granny  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:01:33pm
#89 MandyManners 1/3/2007 06:57PM PST

#52 galloping granny

Those who are too particular to eat free soup can request help from other followers of their particular faith.

Aren't Muslims required to support poor Muslims?

Not in the same way that Jews & Christians understand their obligations to the poor by a long shot.

96 LSD  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:02:36pm

#87
I think what is important is that Keith Ellison thinks he's slapping down the "Islamophobes" by using a Founding Fathers' Koran.

Truth be told, Jefferson got that Koran because he had to find out what kind of a barbaric cult of scoundrels he was going to have to deal with!

97 vrwc007  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:02:43pm

What a great police force the French have. They capture the criminal pork dealers, but can't find the "youths" burning the cars.

98 friarstale  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:03:58pm

90
"pork easy"
love it

um, hello, French Police?
Islam is a religion, not a race
on the other hand, Islam was supposedly for the Arabs, so...
if Islam let's go of all the nations it conquered and limits itself to Arab countries, then perhaps Islam can be its own race as well as a religion

99 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:04:01pm

NoSubmission,

Nice photos. What a bunch of old, washed up hippies. They need to move on.

100 Underzog  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:04:39pm

An Underdog movie is starting Aug 3. I can hardly wait.
[Link: www.aintitcool.com...]

"There's no need to fear; Underzog is here!"

101 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:05:48pm
102 Bobblehead  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:06:09pm

#93 JammieWearingFool

What a cloying, grating pain in the ass.

Love your way with words.

103 tokyobk  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:06:49pm

#81 Galloping

Culture does have something to do with poverty, but more likely it is the strong emphasis placed on education in Japanese culture. Well educated people, especially those in high demand & technical fields, are less likely to become homeless.

Thanks for the advice. That is exactly what I mean by culture, the preference for educational achievement.

There are homeless here in Japan by the way, some living in highly organized "blue tent" towns such as a long the banks of the moat at Osaka Castle and in Hibiya Park in Tokyo. These tents can be quite elaborate with multiple rooms, hallways, power generators, parking spaces for bicycles and pets. There seems to be some rule of law among the homeless and they seem from the outside to repect the boundaries of one another`s squats.

104 Maximu§  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:06:50pm

As soon as I read this story, my mouth started watering.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

105 texanista  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:07:15pm

Hey! It's POLK SALAD!

106 friarstale  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:07:34pm

96 LSD
I'd like to see Jefferson's Koran...
I wonder if he wrote any "notes to self" in the margins...

Jefferson spent money incessantly
talk about ADD
he prob bought it as a curiosity and never read it

107 reader  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:07:51pm

Does this mean we can't say barbequed automobiles?

108 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:07:54pm
Bobblehead 1/3/2007 07:06PM PST

#93 JammieWearingFool

What a cloying, grating pain in the ass.

Love your way with words.

Thanks. She is what she is. None of this Peace Mom crap for me.

109 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:08:41pm

One thing you have to bear in mind: There are a lot of "far-right" groups in Europe--like the Solidarity of the French (SDF) from this article--which are truly abominations and should themselves be exterminated (were there any justice in this world).

They are at least as anti-Jewish as they are anti-Muslim, usually moreso. They are basically the same as the KKK.

110 rabidfox  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:09:05pm

Thanks Midwestprof. e-mail is on the way.

111 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:09:37pm

I hope that Muslims would send the amounts collected yearly for zakat
[Link: www.questia.com...]
to help the Muslim poor that are their neighbors, instead of having it go to jihad terrorists in distant lands.

112 saltmarsh  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:09:48pm

Offer them pork soup and they start squealing like a pig.

emmm,,,car-b-que

113 solomonpanting  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:11:50pm

Soup to nuts.

114 Jimbouie  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:13:02pm

Jeez...just stopping by and have to say this thread is hilarious...LGF is definitely the wittiest joint around.

Mocking laughter is certainly called for. The more the better every chance we get.

Beggars/choosers, indeed.

115 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:13:07pm

This ain't about Jews possibly being 'offended' by pork soup. This is about Muslims in Fwance shoving their agenda up the Louvre and everywhere else. Pork soup is just a little tiny battle. It's like the hallal meat being served in British schools "for Muslims and Jews". As if Jews eat hallal anyway.

116 Jimbouie  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:15:06pm

And besides, I think it all has to do somehow with Soupy Sales.

117 shug  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:15:18pm

Drat! when I saw this topic I was hoping for my first hat tip!
I linked to this yesterday or the day before

oh well. One can dream

anyway

rejecting police complaints that the food distribution was racist.


Really, the police had complained about the soup for the homeless?

BULLCRAP!

118 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:18:22pm

The problem I have with the Frogs is that a lot of them are plain old-fashioned racists. Here on LGF we are against Islam because of what it stands for, the ideas it tries to promote, the injustice it fosters and of course the nihilistic violence it breeds. We are not, however, against anyone because of their race, national origin (per se), creed, color, etc. etc.

In Canada we have our own mini-France. The Quebecois have the concept of pur laine which means "pure wool" and stands for ethnically and racially pure.

There is a huge difference between standing against a malformed and venomous religion (that is, an IDEA) on the one hand, and standing against people because of their skin color, accent, or whatever on the other hand.

I don't trust the French, and I don't stand with them on this pork soup thing because I know the same people behind this are the ones who gleefully loaded Jews on trains under Vichy.

119 formercorpsman  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:18:32pm

WriterMom, right on target.

This has nothing to do with the homeless, and everything to do with subversion from within.

Think of western civilization like the camel they had strung up for eid, with the knife going around it's neck.

120 BingoBunny  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:20:56pm

Wait .. they give FREE food to homeless people.. and the Fwench want a ethic menu. Goats eyes smothered in honey I guess would be aces there.

121 NoSubmission  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:23:49pm

99 JammieWearingFool

Nice photos. What a bunch of old, washed up hippies. They need to move on.

Some of those old washed up hippies were pretty angry and intolerant. I was amazed.

122 maddogg  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:24:46pm

Temporary problem. In a few years the Muslims will have consumed the Frogs, then any problem ceases to exist. I won't miss them, and then collateral damage will be less of a problem too.

123 USA  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:24:55pm

Yea, but who is looking out for homeless who are lactose-intolerant?

Sacre bleu!

124 Angel  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:26:54pm

Fret not friends..
Somalis now Demand Prayer Room in Airport

Anyone wanna place bets on how soon they get it?

Good Lawd!

125 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:27:20pm

#117 shug
AMEN!

The threads are 2-3 days old; posted in 'comments' here minutes after they hit the wires.

126 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:31:20pm

Muslim squatters appropriate bldgs in Fwance

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

/Just like an advancing Army. Your bldgs is ours.

127 maddogg  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:31:47pm

#124 Angel
No problem, why do you think they used to carve an Islamic moon in the door of the outhouse? just a little plastic and pressure tape...and VIOLA! They can chant their prayers to the sound of toilets flushing.

128 caliredst8r  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:31:56pm

Just got home from running some errands and saw this. Very nice! NOT! Let's just bend over and spread 'em a little wider.

[Link: english.farsnews.com...]


sorry if this has already been posted

129 i_hate_the_msm  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:31:57pm

God help us when it gets this bad.
just when you thought you had heard everything.

130 JoiseyMafia  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:32:12pm

The Fwench should serve Italian Ham,Swiss Cheese sangwiches on the streets of ole gay Paree.

See if they cry about that as well. Its inclusive after all.

131 short fat corporal  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:32:54pm

Pork Chop Soup/ Bacon Soup

You use either grilled pork chops or fried bacon; hell use both if you want. Season the pork chops with garlic pepper or lemon pepper.
Either way you're gonna be dumping the drippins into the soup.

The base is cream of tater soup. Besides the meat juice, dump a lot of butter,cheese, maybe a little milk in there. The best cheese for this is cheddar jack, but try different ones. I tried sour cream once, didn't come out so good.

Grill some onions, or chop up fresh green onions (scallions?), chunk in there.

Season with garlic pepper, lemon pepper, or whatever else floats your boat.

Measurements are determined by how much grease and dairy you can take before your gut explodes.

G*d says that Jews may eat this; at least he hasn't zapped me yet.

132 solomonpanting  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:32:57pm

#124 Angel


"Where you have Christians and Muslims praying at the same time, it will create a problem," said Fuad Ali, a Somali leader who spoke at a meeting of community members and airport officials Tuesday in Minneapolis.

More accurately, where you have Muslims it will create a problem.

133 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:33:04pm

OT. Ñûke Mëçcâ

McCain grumbles about having to build “the goddamned fence”

To hell with McCain.

134 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:34:11pm
Identity Soup, as it has been dubbed by its chefs, was banned in Strasbourg this month after officials ruled it could lead to public disorder.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

The articles seem to imply that this is a problem for "Jews and Muslims", but it is not a problem for Jews. Jews in need will be supported by Jewish organizations and given the money to buy whatever they need. Besides, they generally are not homeless people needing soup kitchens. And they are not demanding a uniform eating code for the population. And they are not prone to rioting.

The "public disorder" that officials are worried about is that which will come from "youths" who are not Jewish, but who are Muslim.

The Islamist rabble-rousers will be telling Muslims that Islam has been insulted, and that Mohammed has been insulted, and that Allah has been insulted, and that a billion and a half Muslims in the world have been insulted. These are the professional humiliatees who see humiliation everywhere.

I wish that the authorities and the press would not say or imply that this is a problem for the Jews. It isn't. The elephant in the room is the unruly Muslim population, and it's about time that they faced that fact and admitted it, instead of finding one more thing to falsely blame on the Jews.

135 Skunk Queen  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:34:21pm

Wev'e had a bad year over here and are broke,broke,broke. A neighbor gave us a ham for Christmas and we're still eating on it. (spinich salad with cubed ham tonight and for the next three nights too.) God bless my neighbor and God bless Pork! God bless the people who take what they are given and make a feast from it! (and please let me get some back child support soon!)

136 Jack Reacher  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:35:03pm
Faced by this initiative which stinks of xenophobia...

Today's soup du jour is xenophobic bisque. Try it with the ham sandwich.

The administrative court said the distribution was “clearly discriminatory,” but could not be stopped because the organizers offered to feed anyone who asked for help.

It hurts my head to try to reconcile the first half of that sentence with the second. Discriminatory means treating everyone alike?
Ouch. There it goes again.

137 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:35:42pm

128 caliredst8r

Send that to Charles.

138 Mojo Jojo  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:37:58pm

OT: New Religion Time
Here is something you don't see everyday or we have some Kryptonian visitors.

Unidentified Object Crashes Through Home
FREEHOLD TOWNSHIP, N.J. (AP) -- A metal, rock-like object about the size of a golf ball and weighing nearly as much as a can of soup crashed through the roof of a Monmouth County home, and authorities on Wednesday were trying to figure out what it was.

Nobody was injured when the oblong object, weighing more than 13 ounces, crashed into the home Tuesday night. Federal officials sent to the scene said it was not from an aircraft.

Police received a call Wednesday morning that the metal object had punched a hole in the roof of a single-family home and damaged tiles on a bathroom floor below.

The object was heavier than a usual metal object of that size, said police Lt. Robert Brightman, who added that no radioactivity was detected.

It's not Green

139 Northpaw  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:38:59pm

And all this time I thought that the pork tenderloin and green chile "chili" that my wife makes me make was simply an abomination of gastronomic proportions...

140 caliredst8r  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:39:21pm

#137 MandyManners


Uh, how do I do that? *sheepish grin*

141 Angel  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:40:34pm

#132 solomonpanting

Is this unreal?..and the Somalis want announcements and signs to be in Somali and the airport!

Charlesss help!

142 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:41:16pm

OT-
ABC news show on now re-staging Stanley Milgram's obedience experiment, using study pop of ~2 dozen, and of course relate it to Abu Graib.

143 rustinpuppets  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:41:23pm

#126 cbinflux

Muslim squatters appropriate bldgs in Fwance.


The squatting thread was earlier


/Oh, the humanity.

144 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:41:56pm
145 mj  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:42:17pm

79 LSD

On Jefferson's Koran:

Anyone know if this Koran is in Arabic or, as I suspect, an English translation? If it's in English, then the hypocrisy of the Muslim Congressman from CAIR is truly astounding since CAIR is always at great pains to point out that only Arabic Korans are legitimate and no self-respecting Saudi...I mean representative of CAIR, recognizes the authority of an English Koran.

146 daughter of patriots  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:43:28pm

What's a long-simmering pea soup without the salty ham-hock? What's a Thanksgiving turkey minus breasted bacon strips? What's a BLT sandwich without the bacon?

Not civilized, that's what!

147 Angel  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:43:54pm

#142 American Soldier

Any mention of A-rab beheadings and so forth?..
nm.

sheesh.

148 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:44:01pm

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY: A VAST SLEEPER CELL

[Link: www.anncoulter.com...]

Fortunately for liberals, the Iraqis executed Saddam Hussein the exact same week that former President Ford died, so it didn't seem strange that Nancy Pelosi's flag was at half-staff. Also, Saddam's death made it less of a snub when Harry Reid skipped Ford's funeral.

The passing of Gerald Ford should remind Americans that Democrats are always lying in wait, ready to force a humiliating defeat on America.

More troops, fewer troops, different troops, "redeployment" — all the Democrats' peculiar little talking points are just a way of sounding busy. Who are they kidding? Democrats want to cut and run as fast as possible from Iraq, betraying the Iraqis who supported us and rewarding our enemies — exactly as they did to the South Vietnamese under Ford.

Liberals spent the Vietnam War rooting for the enemy and clamoring for America's defeat, a tradition they have brought back for the Iraq war.

They insisted on calling the Soviet-backed Vietcong "the National Liberation Front of Vietnam," just as they call Islamic fascists killing Americans in Iraq "insurgents." Ho Chi Minh was hailed as a "Jeffersonian Democrat," just as Michael Moore compares the Islamic fascists in Iraq to the Minute Men.

During the Vietnam War, New York Times scion Arthur "Pinch" Sulzberger told his father that if an American soldier ran into a North Vietnamese soldier, he would prefer for the American to get shot. "It's the other guy's country," he explained.

Now, as publisher of the Times, Pinch does all he can to help the enemy currently shooting at American soldiers.

149 Quando  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:45:22pm

Muslims can eat pork if it is their only means of sustenance.
The issue here is that this organization has a rule that in order to receive any of its aid (other food, water, juice, blankets etc) the homeless has to eat the pork soup first.
No pork, no bread or blankets. Definitely racist.

150 gamegrid  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:46:01pm

In France, pork soup is not racist... but let me tell you there are other concerns.

Collared greens in Alabama attacked a white person who came into the wrong side of town.

Then, some Twinkies retaliated and beat some black folk down. They repeatedly were recorded using the "n" word and the video is easily available on youtube.

I also heard in Japan some fried dumplings attacked some Chinese tourists...

Racist food is not acceptable in any place!

151 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:46:48pm

#79 LSD

Sent that story (from Yahoo) to Charles earlier tonight. Thought it was thread-worthy, but I don't run the blog.

Tried to send a letter to Ellison requesting that he not swear his oath on the Koran because he's an American first, but his campaign site is not taking emails.

Sent it to the StarTrib, but they so far have not published my letter.

152 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:46:55pm

French Muslims are New Food Police,
by Debbie Schlussel
[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

153 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:49:26pm

re #152


Pork Soup or Truth Serum?: French Muslims Are New Food Police

By Debbie Schlussel

Are the Muslim food police coming to America? Imagine American police using permits to shut you down if you serve pork or any pig products.

That's what's happening in France. Here in the States we have the Center for the Study of Science in the Public Interest, which comes out with monthly reports assaulting movie refreshments, Asian food, Italian food--virtually anything consumable.

But they ain't got nothin' on French Muslims. Pursuant to Muslims' demands, French police are using permits to shut down homeless soup kitchens that serve Pork soup, an age-old French dish. (Pigs are not Hallal--or "permitted"--under Muslim dietary laws.) In some French cities, Muslims have succeeded in an OUTRIGHT BAN on the soup. That should disturb all freedom-loving Americans.

Islam's Food Police Declare War on French Pork Soup

For the record, my religion, Judaism, forbids consumption of any pig products--which was copied by Islam (along with many other Jewish and Christian tenets) when the religion was invented. However, we Jews do not believe in imposing our restrictive religious beliefs on others. That is a disturbing Islamic precept. And the use of the state to do it is openly urged by many prominent American Muslim leaders, such as Ibrahim Hooper and Omar Ahmad of CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations)--both of whom have stated that they want the Koran and Islamic law to replace the U.S. Constitution.

154 solomonpanting  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:49:35pm
#149 Quando 1/3/2007 07:45PM PST

Muslims can eat pork if it is their only means of sustenance.
The issue here is that this organization has a rule that in order to receive any of its aid (other food, water, juice, blankets etc) the homeless has to eat the pork soup first.
No pork, no bread or blankets. Definitely racist.

Got milk proof?

155 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:52:55pm

149 Quando

Racist? ISLAM IS NOT A RACE.

156 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:54:17pm

#149 Quando

Well Quando, as Pink Floyd said:

"If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding!"

157 RTLM  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:54:36pm

T.S. Eliot nailed the French

"We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men ...

Paralyzed force, gestures without motion ...

The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star ...

This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper."

158 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:54:41pm

#149 Quando

The issue here is that this organization has a rule that in order to receive any of its aid (other food, water, juice, blankets etc) the homeless has to eat the pork soup first.

Now that sounds like a wholecloth fabrication.

159 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:55:10pm
"No-one has ever been able to prove that anyone has been refused soup or clothes on the grounds of their religion or race," SDF lawyer Frederic Pichon told France Info radio after Tuesday's court decision.

Tell me when will you be mine
Tell me, quando quando quando...

160 Kohenan The Barbarian  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:55:27pm

Typical of the Fwench to once again resolve correctly a totally irrelevant Arabist conundrum that has bugger-all impact on their usual capitulating and patronizing relationship with the Arab Oil- Sluts and their 8 million splodiodope supporters within their Republic!

161 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:55:30pm
No pork, no bread or blankets. Definitely racist.

That's absurd enough to be a rotating title, if it were only a litle shorter.

162 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:56:04pm

They are arguing about WHAT ?

The idiots in France are extra idiotic.

tres stupid.

163 maddogg  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:56:31pm

#149 Quando

Isn't Gordon waiting for you in the hot tub?

164 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:56:56pm

re #152
This AP report is quoted in the article:

"One has the right to be charitable toward whom one wants," said Bruno Gollnisch, the [French National Front] party's No. 2. Moves to forbid soup kitchens offering pork reveal authorities' "alienation" from the French people, he said.

Pork soup is an age-old staple of the rural heartland from which all the French, at least in the national imagination, are said to spring.

The groups dishing up the soup say their victuals are no more than traditional French cuisine and deny they are serving up a message of racial hatred - a crime in France - or that they would refuse soup to a hungry Muslim or Jew.

In Strasbourg, pork soup was banned this month after officials deemed it could disrupt public order.

"Schemes with racial subtexts must be denounced," said a statement by Strasbourg Mayor Fabienne Keller.

More than a dozen police surrounded volunteers at a recent soup distribution at Paris' Montparnasse train station. Once police determined there was pork in the broth, they ordered the 10-gallon container sealed because the group had no permit.

There has been no outright ban on pork soup giveaways in Paris, but police have been using the permit issue as a way to shut down the kitchens and avert racial tensions.

165 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:57:41pm

#154 solomonpanting

Got milk proof?

Trolls don't need no stinkin' proofses...

166 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:57:49pm

OT

It is absolutely surreal that John Conyers (Moonbat - M.) is now the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee for the House of Reps.

167 Quando  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:58:11pm

From: [Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

The groups insist that they are only serving traditional Gallic fare to "our own". Pork soup is a staple of the French pastoral heartland from which, nationalists say, all true French spring.

However, the SDF website leaves no doubt about the group's intentions.

As well as the recipe for pork soup it advises how it should be served - with bread and wine - in a "Gallic atmosphere" with no queues.

"The only condition to eat with us: to eat pig," it reads, concluding: "Attention, cheese, dessert, coffee, clothes, snacks go with the pig soup: no pig soup, no dessert - the only rule of our action: our own before the others."

168 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 5:58:59pm
169 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:00:34pm

#149 Quando

Muslims can eat pork if it is their only means of sustenance.
The issue here is that this organization has a rule that in order to receive any of its aid (other food, water, juice, blankets etc) the homeless has to eat the pork soup first.
No pork, no bread or blankets. Definitely racist.

Where did you get that info? I didn't see it in the article.

And by the way - islam is not a race - it's a religion.

j

170 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:00:53pm

re #152

"France's Muslim food police and their statist attack on Pork soup"


-- Debbie Schlussel

171 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:00:59pm

167 Quando

ISLAM IS NOT A RACE.

172 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:01:01pm

167 Quando

I like their rule.

And anyhow, the famous moslem charities, can't they take care of their own?

What's that you say, the charity money goes for inedible explosives, and flight training?

Oh.

'Splains why their still hungry I guess.

173 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:01:07pm

#148 cbinflux
I'm in love with Ann Coulter.

174 Maine's Michael  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:02:41pm

The use of the 'anti-semitic' charge by the anti-pork-soupers was a transparent attempt to garner sympathy for an anti-pork soup initiave that would otherwise be unlikely to get the average frenchmen too worked up.

I would bet the silent majority of Frenchmen, at this sorry point in their history, are sorry they shipped off their productive, low-profile Jews to concentration camps, and are now stuck with non-productive, high profile automobile-phobic muslims.

175 mama winger  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:02:43pm

#168 Noam

Love it, but this version is better.


Isn't he lovely . . . ?


Yum.

176 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:03:28pm

"they're"

PIMF

I did go to college ...

177 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:04:18pm
178 SaneInMN  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:04:18pm

Excellent, yet depressing, polictical analyses from a couple of Powerline readers.

I agree completely that the narrowness of the victory in 2004 was quite striking and worthy of study. The race should have resembled the blow out of Dukakis. Kerry was no less ridiculous on national security than Dukakis, and that was the preeminent issue. Plus, we were in the middle of a very robust economic expansion, which strongly favors the incumbent, and Bush is a good and likable candidate, whereas Kerry was a clown on the order of Thurston Howell, III.
So why was it so close?

My guesses are roughly: 1. It’s not the same country it was in [1988]. It’s demographically much more favorable to Democrats than it was [then]. (Sane; Ever wonder were all of those PA Reagan Democrats went to? For the most part, they are dead. South western PA's population is the 2nd oldest in the nation, only behind Dade county, FL) 2. The whole of the left’s cultural machinery was fully engaged in the demonization of Bush 24/7/365 for two full years leading up to the election. Movies, TV (news and entertainment), newspapers, magazines, party machinery at every level, political ground game, PACs, 521s, Soros millions, etc. etc. were all fully mobilized against Bush. 3. The Bush White House’s failure to treat the domestic political front as an extension of the battlefield in the war on terror - despite the enemy conspicuously declaring that it was one of their strategic centers of gravity. Consequently, the Bush White House left unanswered for the most part the constant demonization from the left, and this tilted the playing field against them.


And this one from Jim Addision:

[T]hat Edwards can run a “two America” campaign in 2006 and be taken seriously, and that Democrats were not routed in 2004 and 2006 are both due to the same phenomenon.
In the late ‘60s, it was called “radical chic.” This meant that mainstream citizens, beginning with college students and professors, adopted the positions of the radical anti-American groups, and attempted to justify them. It was a social test: you couldn’t be truly anti-war and “chic” if you didn’t also oppose American “colonialism, imperialism, and capitalism” and support Marxist ideals, if not actually and directly supporting the USSR and PRC.

Radical chic never left our college campuses, even as every tenet of radical left philosophy was disproved in the real world. The emergence of the Iraq War as an issue provided the medium for the festering cultures of radical chic to be quickly regrown into a widespread infection.

It became “cool” to hate Bush, hate the War, and believe the worst of America once again.

This is the real reason Iraq has been touted as “another Vietnam.” It’s not because of any tactical similarities; it is because it is the first war since Vietnam which lasted long enough to allow the anti-American left to foment an antiwar and anti-capitalism movement among those who are slaves to fashion.

The chic leftists always side with evil, be it the Soviet Union, Castro's Cuba, Mao, or any number of Central and South American monsters. So, it comes as no surprise that they find themselves on the side of evil yet again.

179 red satellite  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:05:41pm

No Pork Soup? Why would anyone want to pork the homeless.

180 Leper  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:05:50pm

I suggest the French offer them Pommes Frites cooked in horse fat with the fries wrapped in pages from the Koran. (Salted of course.)

181 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:06:19pm

Islam Dispatches Santa, the Bible, and Winnie the Pooh
by Daniel Pipes
[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]
(scroll down and see the update concerning pork soup)

182 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:06:24pm

#172 Ojoe

And anyhow, the famous moslem charities, can't they take care of their own?

That charity is for shihads, not the poor.

183 Orbit Rain  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:07:04pm

sounds fucking crazy...why are their police a political action arm? Are they selectively enforcing something or did a legislature put this into being?

Hello whatever superdistant French cousins I may have, the whole socialist thing is not gonna work, you need to out vote the ignoranti...

wake up...hellooo...hellooo

This whole thing reeks of a state controlling your conscience, your freedom...weird...

184 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:07:06pm

Guys & gals
Quando's correct on his, read their point/issue.

The organization wants to feed and o'wise help the WFC/C. Pork Soup is an old Gallic staple, and it IS being used as a litmus test against Jews and Muslims.

Let's argue the facts not emotions.

185 Angel  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:07:17pm

Naw..

Offer them gefilte fish with chopped liver..LOL

They do eat fish dont they?

186 Quando  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:07:36pm

They don't have to feed anyone they don't want to. They should even be able to post a sign that says "ONLY NATIVE FRENCHMAN", but let's not pretend that there is no exclusionary intent behind the rule. It is absolutely meant to exclude arabs and Jews.

Also, though Islam is not a race, in france the muslims are almost exclusively arab and black-african, so racism an accurate charge.

Lastly, #173 American Soldier, God help you.

187 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:08:00pm

LSD

Any idea how Thomas Jefferson came upon owning a Koran? Local TV in Mpls (The KARE Bears) reported that no one knows.

188 mama winger  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:09:26pm

I'm getting tired of pig soup. Can't we please discuss Wentworth Miller?

189 marjoriemoon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:09:46pm

A Jew who keeps kosher, he/she will do many other rituals that are equally important, such as keeping the Sabbath. I would imagine a religious Jew would have difficulty doing many things if he is homeless. The Jews in the death camps still practiced their faith (including Bat Mitvahs) the best they could without materials to do so. God understands.

#62 Charles

I suspect very few French Jews are offended by the pork soup handouts.

Indeed, but they couldn't eat beef either unless it was Kosher, so for Jews, it's a ridiculous argument.

If they were so "Jewishly-sensitive" they would know that already.

No soup for you! Next!

190 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:09:56pm

#186 Quando

I'd take Ann Coulter over one of your leftist hags any day. Not only is Lynn Stewart paint-peelingly ugly, she's a gen-u-ine traitor (as in High Treason) to boot.

191 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:10:14pm

#173 Am Soldier
I want to bare her chittlin's!

192 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:12:23pm

#186 Quando

They should even be able to post a sign that says "ONLY NATIVE FRENCHMAN"

How about if they posted a sign that says:
"FREE FOOD, IF YOU'RE HUNGRY COME AND GET IT!"

Followed by:
"THIS IS NOT BURGER KING, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT YOUR WAY!"

Would that work for you?

193 Cartman  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:12:52pm

#186 Squando

Also, though Islam is not a race, in france the muslims are almost exclusively arab and black-african, so racism an accurate charge.

Ignorance oozes through every single pore. Resistance to societal violence equates to "racism"? Utter bullshit.

194 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:12:55pm

re #181

I noted in my column this week, "Enforce Islamic Law in Canada?" that "efforts to integrate Muslims into the West [often] upset a benign status quo" and gave as one example the banning of Santas, Nativity plays, Christmas carols, and Bibles so as not to offend Muslim sensitivities. Here I will catalogue other proscribed items as they come to my attention.
195 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:13:06pm

I see... what the Reuters article left out is that the group is ultra-nationalist, not merely supportive of French culture. I have no doubt that these Le Pen types intend to discourage foreigners from the shelters by serving pork.

Still, the idea that this is somehow racist is utter nonsense. Islam is not a race.

196 Quando  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:13:37pm

190 Pro-Bush Canuck

She does look better than Lynn Stewart, but she still looks like she's barely living, let alone attractive.

197 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:13:57pm

#189 marjoriemoon

Don't underestimate the French racist fascists. They're against Muslims all right, they're also equally if not more against Jews, blacks, Chinese--anyone who isn't a white Frenchman.

We don't have these groups over here much any more, but they are virulently active in Europe.

LGF should NOT be aligning itself in any way, shape or form with despicable neo-Nazis like the SDF.

198 solomonpanting  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:14:03pm

#167 Quando

Thanks for the link.

As well as the recipe for pork soup it advises how it should be served - with bread and wine - in a "Gallic atmosphere" with no queues.

Alcohol is also verboten, but this is France fer cryin' out loud. Even the babies have formula 5% alcohol.

The "Gallic atmosphere" would rule out Muslims partaking.

Definitely racist. Yeah, definitely.
//Dustin Hoffman "Rainman"-speak.

199 RTLM  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:14:42pm

Give them lutefisk

200 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:14:49pm

LSD

Nevermind. I got it.

201 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:14:55pm

#186 Quando

Lastly, #173 American Soldier, God help you.

Okay, now you're pissing me off!

202 shug  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:15:26pm

The Nerve of these people!

OT

Somali immigrants passing through Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport want a private place to say Muslim prayers.

The airport suggests they share a room with people of other religions.

I suggest they go F*** themselves!

203 mama winger  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:15:32pm

Wentworth?

No one?


Okay, so I guess I'll just GO TO BED THEN !

/ that'll larn ya


Goodnight everyone :)

204 Quando  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:16:07pm
LGF should NOT be aligning itself in any way, shape or form with despicable neo-Nazis like the SDF.

You underestimate Herr Johnson

205 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:16:35pm
206 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:17:01pm

#167 Quando

Thanks for the link.

j

207 USA  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:17:02pm
Every Thursday night a handful of volunteers equipped with a trunk of hot food meet up in a poor district of Paris to feed the needy. They kick off with red wine served from a cask on the roof of a car, and an appetizer of dried sausage. That is followed with bowls of steaming hot soup, traditionally known as a "repas gaulois" or Gallic dinner, cheese and dessert.

Link

What, no WHITE wine? Pure racism!

208 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:17:24pm

#196 Quando

She's not a traitor or a de facto terrorist supporter, as are vast numbers of people on the Left.

Looks are rather secondary compared to that little "Inconvenient Truth".

209 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:17:43pm

Herr Johnson?

What are you trying to say Quando?
Be very specific!

210 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:18:09pm

I would have thought this story worthy of a "flying pig" icon.

211 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:18:30pm
212 ConservativeAtheist  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:18:55pm

On the subject of burning French cars...

213 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:19:02pm

#199 rtlm
You're ONE SICK, CRUEL BASTARD, and sure to be tried and convicted in the World Court.

214 mattm  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:20:17pm

Wait a minute. I thought the enlightned Europens had no homeless, crime, etc, etc because of their progressive ways.

/sarc

215 Quando  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:20:32pm

#211 Iron Fist

Christianity is not a race.

216 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:20:41pm

#204 Quando

Charles Johnson is about as far removed from that sort of scum as it is possible to be.

Neo-Nazis hold Holocaust-denial conferences in Iran, Mein Kampf is the best-selling book after the Koran in Palestine, and just who do you think the Left INSTINCTIVELY sides with?

Does the Left side with tolerant, democratic Israel? Nope. They side with the people who name their children "Adolph" more often than any other nation on earth.

The National SOCIALIST German Worker's Party is in your bloodline, Qunado, not ours.

217 brothertrav  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:21:12pm

I came in at post #195...

I qwas gonna read 'em all. But I looked at the article again and thought, we're talking about France here... who really gives a crap?!?!

Let them eat cake!

218 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:21:15pm

#186 Quando
It has no effect on Jews who keep kosher because even if they served beef that was not certified as kosher it would not be appropriate for Orthodox Jews. This was pointed out already by marjoriemoon in #189, but I repeat it for your benefit.
For Jews in need, Jewish organizations provide funds so that they can purchase what they need.
Muslims should use the zakat that they collect. The zakat (nominally or traditionally 2.5% of income) should not be used for jihad in other lands, but should go for feeding their Muslim neighbors who are poor.

You bring up the Jews, but although Jews have dietary restrictions, they do not seek to impose their dietary restrictions on the population at large. They are not demanding Food Police, as the Muslims apparently are. So stop bringing the Jews into this when it has nothing to do with the Jews.

219 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:22:10pm

#204 Quando

LGF should NOT be aligning itself in any way, shape or form with despicable neo-Nazis like the SDF.

You underestimate Herr Johnson

You have just implied that Charles is a "neo-Nazi." I think you'd better support that very serious charge with evidence or retract it with an apology.

220 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:22:44pm
221 Elric66  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:23:03pm
#215 Quando 1/3/2007 08:20PM PST

#211 Iron Fist

Christianity is not a race.


Neither is Islam. But the Qur'an outlines Islam discrimination against anyone but Muslims. But thats ok with you lefties though, right?

222 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:24:20pm

#204 Quando

Fuck you.

223 shug  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:24:42pm

Quando:
If I knew nothing about Charles Johnson I could easily refute your neo-nazi stupidity.

I never met the neo-nazo who had a pony-tail.

Since I can refute your accusation with such little substance, I will defer using a substantive argument since it's not even required.

Now Piss off

224 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:25:08pm

#215 Quando

Christianity is not a race.

Troll getting concept? Nah...

225 marjoriemoon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:25:12pm

#197 Pro Bush

Don't underestimate the French racist fascists. They're against Muslims all right, they're also equally if not more against Jews...

Yes. That's why Sharon had called for them to leave (and he was lambasted for doing so). That's why so many French Jews immigrated to Israel in the last few years.

The point for me is, beef has to be Kosher if it's to matter for a religious Jew. So pork or beef, it doesn't make a difference. And I'm assuming the argument here is switching to beef. I don't know if Muslims keep all the laws of Kashrut.

But then they'd have to have two sets of dishes too, or the religious Jew will also not partake.

i.e. this has nothing to do with the Jews. A religious Jew will seek help from a synagogue and I suspect a religious Muslim from a mosque. Or it simply won't matter to anyone except this silly mayor.

226 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:25:43pm

Quando-
If spoken to, you may address me as "Sir", or by rank. Meanwhile, grab your snowshoes and hockey gloves. My NCOs tell me we need a new point man minesweeper.

227 solomonpanting  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:25:55pm

#205 Iron Fist

The French are wanting to limit their charity to Frenchmen in France.

I don't understand how there could be homeless Muslims in France, anyway. Doesn't the Government provide housing, food, monthly stipend, and unemployment benefits, especially to their poor, unskilled, unassimilated pobrecitos?

Besides, living ten to an apartment the savings rate must be enormous.
:0

228 rtheyserius  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:26:05pm

Inspector Clouseau: I understand that yieu have pork in yieur zoup?

Soup Server: We have no 'zoup'.

Inspector Clouseau: You have no zoup?

Soup Server: That's right.

Inspector Clouseau: Zen vhat is ZIS! (pointing to the soup)

Soup Server: That is soup.

Inspector Clouseau: Zhat is vhat I said! Zoup!

Soup Server: No, you said 'zoup'.

Inspector Clouseau: Zhat is vhat I am zaying, you idiot!

229 Quando  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:26:07pm

#219 Yank in the EU

Much of what I've seen here, the link Charles chooses, his wording in their introductions, the points he highlights all are reminiscent of the way that Nazis vilified Jews and particularly religious Jews in the years leading up to the holocaust.

I don't think he is anti-Semitic, but the style of his rhetoric is hideously fascist.

230 RTLM  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:27:00pm

Nazi accusations from lefties are worn out clichés.

Meaningless and intellectually vacant.

But worth a punch in the face.

231 Orbit Rain  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:27:19pm

just saw this in the wsj, yes, the whole thing is obnoxious, but who is this state to say what is halal to one is halal to none...

232 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:27:41pm

Quando, you say that this is racist, but it has nothing to do with black Christians, or black animists. And Islam is not a race. Besides, nobody is forcing Muslims to eat this food. Crying "racism" is a ridiculous way to convert non-Muslims into dhimmis and force Sharia upon all.

233 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:27:43pm

#204 Quando

LGF should NOT be aligning itself in any way, shape or form with despicable neo-Nazis like the SDF.
You underestimate Herr Johnson

You are one sick puppy. I thought you wanted to have a serious discussion here. My bad.

j

234 SaneInMN  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:27:53pm

215...

Neither is Islam.

186...

Their are exponentially more Christians in Africa than in today's Europe, and many of these Black Christians have been enslaved, murdered, or worse by Arabic Muslims. I believe genocide is an "accurate charge" that can be levelled against this sort of reglious practice.

229...

Honestly, your posts indicate that you are "hideously ignorant".

235 Elric66  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:27:53pm
#229 Quando 1/3/2007 08:26PM PST

#219 Yank in the EU

Much of what I've seen here, the link Charles chooses, his wording in their introductions, the points he highlights all are reminiscent of the way that Nazis vilified Jews and particularly religious Jews in the years leading up to the holocaust.

I don't think he is anti-Semitic, but the style of his rhetoric is hideously fascist.

Islam in itself is fascist. Seems you ignored that little fact.

236 shug  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:28:11pm

230 rtlm

careful, wear heavy gloves.

many of them have Hepatitis C and HIV

237 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:28:44pm

#220 Iron Fist
I have an application in to the Zoning Board of Mecca to build an Orthodox Synagogue. But they never return my phone calls.

238 Roger  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:28:48pm

Now there is a subject moonbat progressives think they know something about. Style!

239 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:29:04pm
240 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:29:27pm

#229 Quando

I don't think he is anti-Semitic,

You, on the other hand...

241 Quando  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:29:33pm

#222 MandyManners

No thanks, I only like women.

#226 American Soldier

Whateveryourrankis, thank you as well, but I have an education and therefore a real job.

242 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:29:51pm

#225 marjoriemoon

I agree with you on all of that. My only point is that Europe has a long history of VERY nasty groups on the Left and the Right (actually they are both just versions of socialist fascists who emphasize different aspects of Evil).

These French (and British, German, etc.) groups are not like us. We oppose Islam because of what Islam represents. They oppose eveyone who is not racially and ethnically pure.

As for the food thing, it is typical politically correct rubbish. I agree with Charles that probably very few Jews would care about this, if any.

Nonetheless I am extremely wary of Europeans in general and their propensity to go off the rails as Germany did in 1939.

243 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:29:54pm

Clean up in aisle 229.

244 RoughRider  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:30:05pm

Want to learn more about the glory of Sharia Law? According to the Dallas Morning News Religion blog, an outfit calling itself the Foundation for Pluralism is hosting a seminar called

"Sharia, Its Origins, Legitimacy and Future"

and "Attendees are invited to bring along a Quran for reference."

You will learn that

The laws are sometiems (sic) cited to justify the oppression of Muslim women, severe punishment for apostasy and other draconian practices. But, he writes, "Just as nuclear technology is used for peaceful purposes as well as destruction, the Sharia Laws can be used to constrict one's life or offer a path of salvation to the follower."

Experts in Sharia will discuss how "an element of abuse has developed" in the interpretation of Sharia in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Nigeria, "and what is being done to rectify the abuse."

There's an email address you can use to indicate your interest in attendance.

245 ConservativeAtheist  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:30:45pm

Quando, you ever read the Koran? Try it sometime, and you'll get an idea of why many people don't think too highly of Islam.

246 ec marm  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:31:08pm

Quando
You recently referred to a lgf poster as "retard."

hows it dead retard, it was posted less than an hour ago.


Now you referred to Charles Johnson as "Herr Johnson" - any last words before you get the stick? This may be your last chance.

247 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:31:19pm

#237 American Soldier

I have an application in to the Zoning Board of Mecca to build an Orthodox Synagogue. But they never return my phone calls.

I have a better idea. How about one on top of the dome of the rock?

248 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:31:20pm
249 Quando  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:32:13pm

#245 ConservativeAtheist

I have. And I've even (gasp) met real life Mozlems.

250 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:32:21pm

Nuke Paris.

251 SaneInMN  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:33:04pm

245...

I'm sure that Quando has, given that he is "educated" and sports a real "job"!

252 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:33:17pm
253 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:33:22pm

#241 Quando

I have an education

Wowee, everybody! The trolls got an ejemucation! I wish I had one of those!

254 USA  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:34:02pm

#229 Quando

The "hideous[] fascist" gives you a voice on his blog?

Go get an education and come back in a few years when you are ready to admit your prior foolishness.

Idiot.

255 jfromfolsomca  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:34:17pm

#241 Quando

Whateveryourrankis, thank you as well, but I have an education and therefore a real job.

Ah, a follower of john seared in my mind f'n kerry.

j

256 Elric66  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:34:39pm
#249 Quando 1/3/2007 08:32PM PST

#245 ConservativeAtheist

I have. And I've even (gasp) met real life Mozlems.


Sure you have. Ever ask yourself why wherever Islam goes, oppression and death follow? Try actually reading the Qur'an. You will know why.

257 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:35:48pm

#252 Iron Fist

Just Mecca.

What about Medina?

LGF: TASTE THE GREENBOW

258 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:36:08pm
#241 Quando 1/3/2007 08:29PM PST

#222 MandyManners

No thanks, I only like women.

#226 American Soldier

Whateveryourrankis, thank you as well, but I have an education and therefore a real job.

Mystery solved. This mope is JayGee Kerry. Or maybe the pimply-faced kid who served me fries at Hardee's the other night.

259 shug  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:36:31pm

Folks, try reading this again


Lord, grant me the serenity to ignore the trolls,the courage to debate with honest opponents,
and the wisdom to know the difference.

260 Fight The Hypocrisy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:36:41pm
"...rejecting police complaints that the food distribution was racist."

WTF!?

With 150 cars going up in flames every night and every other form of chaos spreading rapidly across France the police are wasting their time on crap like this!?

They deserve to be attacked by mobs of "youths" on a regular basis. Screw it, Let France Burn!

And I have to agree w/ #13 and others:

Pork Soup is Not Racist in France

That is definitely rotating title material.

261 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:36:41pm

#229 Quando

I don't think he is anti-Semitic, but the style of his rhetoric is hideously fascist.

Let's get something straight right now because you're really starting to irritate me.
Fascists are power hungry Leftists...like you and your Leftard buddies.

Charles Johnson is the furthest thing in the world from a Fascist. Just the implication pisses me off.
You want to see Fascism in America? Go to a Liberal Arts college and see how they stifle free speech.
To call what Charles says in his post's 'fascist' is just ludicrous!

262 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:36:42pm

#229 Quando

the style of his rhetoric is hideously fascist.

You are confusing Charles--who simply reports the news that the MSM tries to suppress--with some posters here (like me, for example) who from time to time make extreme statements.

I have yet to see Charles publish a single sentence which is remotely "fascist", and I was reading LGF long before I started posting here.

The bottom line is that largest single source of recrudescent Nazism in the world today is among Muslim Arabs who are overwhelmingly in favor of:

1. Denying Holocaust I
2. Implementing Holocaust II

The fact that Leftists (e.g., Daily Kos) INSTINCTIVELY--without thinking--bind to the very worst of the worst is far more telling than anything Charles Johnson ever wrote.

Your ilk backed Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, Castro and numerous other mass murderers for decades, and today you still back the enemies of your country.

Leftists are simply evil. It's up to you to decide if you are in that camp, or not. I pray that you will move away from such depravity.

263 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:36:53pm
264 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:37:07pm

Quando, you are obviously doing the work of trying to cause a split in LGF, alienating the supporters of the Jews, calling the supporters of the Jews "Nazis", demonizing the host of this blog by calling him "Herr Johnson" and calling him a Nazi, and doing the work of the Islamofascists. I am Jewish, and I find what you are up to is disgusting, dishonest, insulting, and rooted in lies, for the purpose of damaging the LGF project. I urge Charles to ban you from this site.

265 Quando  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:37:43pm

#253 Earth2moonbat

I wish you had one too!


Q: (getting up to leave) Thank you LGF, you've been great. That's it for me.
LGFERS: Oh no, you're not going out on a high note with me Quando!
Q: It's Q-uando!
LGFERS: No! No!
Q: Goodnight everybody!

266 really grumpy big dog johnson  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:38:03pm

I eat pork all the time. It keeps me from going completely insane and doing things like wiping my ass with my left hand using aspen bark.

I have a niece by marriage who is entirely unqualified to teach who is becoming a certified teacher at a Mosque in Kansas via a (probably Saudi) educational website that gives fancy diplomas to all who hate freedom for mankind.

She should instead have a postdoctoral degree in unwed births of children who NOW hate McDonalds because momma told them that they murder Palestinians by poisoning their baby formula. I wish I was making this up.

We live in a special world.

267 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:39:03pm

#259 shug

I know, but this one's such an exquisite idiot.

268 solomonpanting  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:39:06pm

#229 Quando

Much of what I've seen here, the link Charles chooses, his wording in their introductions, the points he highlights all are reminiscent of the way that Nazis vilified Jews and particularly religious Jews in the years leading up to the holocaust.

Especially after the numerous Jews were captured, tried, and convicted for countless acts of terror.

269 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:39:50pm

#247 Earth2moonbat

#237 American Soldier

I have an application in to the Zoning Board of Mecca to build an Orthodox Synagogue. But they never return my phone calls.

I have a better idea. How about one on top of the dome of the rock?


I only go there to get stoned.

#248 Iron Fist

#237 American Soldier,

Imagine that!

I've always said my hostility towards Islam will end when they lay the cornerstone to the first Synagog next to the First Baptist Church of Mecca.

That seams reasonable to me.


Fer sure. Your statement gave me the inspiration. I think we should also have a Jimmy Dean's on the corner.

270 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:40:17pm

Something just slinked away into the night.

271 tokyobk  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:40:18pm

Off Topic, I think the following from the signature of anIslamic website (where you can learn about the Jewish persecution of the Prohets ans well as their having caused the imprisonment of Malcom X-- antisemitism, that unending wellspring of new information)would make a great LGF rotating sub tag, or whatever its called in accurate speak.

All filthy Google ads has been deleted - Islamic sites don't pay a single cent to kuffar

272 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:40:44pm

I think it's gone...

273 Odinist  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:41:16pm

#265 Quando

F*ck you, Quando...

/the best I can say...

274 religion of bacon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:41:58pm

#117 shug
#125 cbinflux

I'm one of the four or five people who already posted a link to this story.

I guess when you're busy removing vertical lines from the site layout, it's harder to keep up with breaking news in a timely fashion, even with the newfangled LGF link harvester...

/cough

275 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:42:21pm

Dígame cuándo él será prohibido.

276 shug  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:42:29pm

271 tokotok ( try as I might I can't spell it..sorry! )


All filthy Google ads has been deleted -
Islamic sites don't pay a single cent to kuffar

All your backspace are belong to us

277 ec marm  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:43:16pm

If anyone cares, right click on quandos football before you go to bed tonight. I have the feeling the next time you hit refresh on it will contain the words:

Banned

278 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:43:50pm

#229 Quando

Do you call that evidence?

This is called being a slimeball:

Much of what I've seen here, the link Charles chooses, his wording in their introductions, the points he highlights all are reminiscent of the way that Nazis vilified Jews and particularly religious Jews in the years leading up to the holocaust.

I don't think he is anti-Semitic, but the style of his rhetoric is hideously fascist.

What, like this?

"The vast, vast majority of Muslims want to get along and live a comfortable life just like everyone else," he says. "But the mainstream media shies away from showing the public the real face of Islamic extremism. They don't want to offend. And they are influenced by some strong advocacy groups that are funded by Middle Eastern countries, which are actively engaging with the mainstream media to promote a point of view."[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

You are, of course, quite wrong. I have seen real fascists in Europe, as represented by the far right SDF in France, as well as the NPD in Germany. The core of their ideology concerns notion of race and ultra-nationalistic principles, such as the discrimination of who is a citizen on the basis of religion or ethnicity. On LGF we see nothing like this at all; what we do see is a confrontation with a real enemy -- Islamic facism, whom we are currently at war with in Afganistan and Iraq. Part of the essence of fascism is the suspension of individual rights on behalf of the good of the state on the grounds of race, ethnicity or religion. I don't see anything like calls to "ban Islam" coming from Charles or anything close. I don't see anything like a suspension of basic, American liberties.

Moreover, the vague, suggestive justification you claim for him being a "neo-Nazi", a serious charge as I said, is truly abhorent. What is wrong with you? In fact, it is YOU who want to stifle debate and free thought by making the charge than anyone who deals unflinchingly with our enemy is a racist or a fascist. It's a typical tactic of leftist who are immoral and debate issues by libelling their opponents.

279 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:44:17pm

#278 pimf: leftists

280 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:44:31pm

They don't make trolls like they used to...this one broke. I mean, I was just messing with it.

And nodroG's being a particular jerk today, too...

281 pat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:45:28pm

"I don't think he is anti-Semitic, but the style of his rhetoric is hideously fascist"

One should learn the meanings of words before you use them. Fascism is what you would do for no meaningful end excepts your deluded idea of political perfection. If you cannot debate the legal issues regarded the service of cassoulet, leave.

282 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:45:36pm

Charles,

If not ahora, quando?!

283 marjoriemoon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:45:52pm

EE, #218: Thanks! I concur!

ProBush: You take some hardlines I don't necessarily agree with, but I understand what you're saying. "Nonetheless I am extremely wary of Europeans in general and their propensity to go off the rails as Germany did in 1939," is very right on.

If the French REALLY wanted to solve this issue, the SDF would put up a Kosher kitchen and then the Muslims and Jews can eat together. Problem solved. And how do you think that will work out?

Besides, isn't pork more expensive than beef anyway?

This is one man making a showing of Political Correctness and he's just opening a big ole can of worms for nothing.

284 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:45:53pm

Quando on LGF:

Little Green Footballs or

Late German Fascists?

285 solomonpanting  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:46:07pm

#275 Noam Sayin'

Dígame cuándo él será prohibido.

When it becomes public knowledge that he sports a poster of Lynn Stewart in a bikini on his basement wall.

286 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:46:23pm

#277 ec marm
Just noticed- I don't got no footballs showing for anyone. Must be an Internet Exploiter glitch.

287 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:47:48pm

#278 Yank in the EU


I have seen real fascists in Europe, as represented by the far right SDF in France, as well as the NPD in Germany

This was my main point up above. I think very few Americans are aware of what groups like the SDF really are. Once they find out they would instantly realize that LGF has no more in common with the SDF than I do with Osama bin Laden merely becasue we are both against abortion.

The SDF is regurgitated vomit out of Hell.

288 shug  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:48:25pm

286 American soldier

I think you are using the Halal Filter which removed Pig skin

/ awad

289 NY Nana  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:48:41pm

Regarding the cult of islam, and what is 'pure' and not 'pure'? Please read this, but not if your are drinking anything, as you will, I guarantee, need at least a new monitor, afer reading this and then this...

BTW, I am not Orthodox, but we oberserve Kashrut. It is not just Orthodox Jews who do. And if I touched a pig? Big deal...if a cult of islam member does? they are forever impure. IIRC, the Brits had a plan to drop pigskins on them during a war...and the cult's rules re dogs?

Where is Aisha when we need her? :)

290 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:48:57pm

#286 American Soldier

I think Charles calls IE "Satan's browser". It's not too cooperative with him.

/Get the fox...

291 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:50:36pm

#283 marjoriemoon

the SDF would put up a Kosher kitchen and then the Muslims and Jews can eat together

With all due respect, you aren't listening! The SDF are neo-Nazis! They want all Jews dead! They are only incidentally anti-Muslim, and only because 95% of Muslims in France are black or dark-skinned.

The SDF would be likely to AGREE with many Islamists.

292 Iron Fist[deleted]  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:50:38pm
293 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:50:55pm

#287 Pro-Bush Canuck

You and several others have pointed that out. Notwithstanding, pork soup isn't racist. The end result stands, even of these guys aren't choir boys.

294 pegcity  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:51:26pm

yeah like the jews are all up in arms.

295 EE  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:51:29pm

Quando, opposing the imposition of Sharia, and opposing making the population dhimmis, is not fascist. It is just speaking truth to Islamic power. If Muslims don't want to eat pork, fine. Neither do Jews. But to seek to establish a Food Police to make the entire population follow this dietary code is ridiculous.

This amounts to Muslim bullying of the population. To try to turn this into a Jewish issue is to lie. It isn't. You are doing the work of the antisemites, the judeophobes, the haters of the Jews. You are an enemy of the Jews and a liar.

296 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:51:44pm

Quando, dude, there is a reason all the great commies and fascists in history use that lovely word socialist.

I like that quote someone posted last week.
Scratch a liberal and you will find a fascist.
Not suprising quando sides with them.

297 Maximu§  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:52:37pm

#241 Quando

Hmmm..let me make an educated guess here:

1) Your a 15-17 year old boy.

3) Your only girlfriend is online.

3) You write for the school paper.

4) Your one of the freaks my son and his friends picks on in the hallways.

I would bet Vegas odds that I have 3 outta 4 right, now get the fuck outta here. You got some nerve calling us Nazi's.

I pray I run into you on the streets.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

298 religion of bacon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:53:00pm

#289 NY Nana

From that anti-pork page:

The Europeans now proclaim that pork is a very powerful diet

Hey, even a broken Euro cuckoo clock is right twice a day...

299 LaMano  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:53:30pm

Could I have some freedom fries with my pork soup?

300 avary  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:53:37pm

Year 2007 is racist : it's the year of the Pig in China and Vietnam.

301 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:54:20pm

#293 Earth2moonbat

Exactly. I have no problem with the basic message of the thread, only with the people who are behind this.

If it was, say, the Catholic Church which just happened to be handing out pork soup then I would say good for them. However the SDF are just plain evil. They are overwhelmingly anti-Jewish, more so than they are anti-Muslim.

Never forget that Hitler found many, many willing allies among the Arabs.

302 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:54:36pm

#288 shug

286 American soldier

I think you are using the Halal Filter which removed Pig skin

/ awad

ROFLMAO. Almost swallowed my cigar.


#289 NY Nana

Regarding the cult of islam, and what is 'pure' and not 'pure'? Please read this, but not if your are drinking anything, as you will, I guarantee, need at least a new monitor, afer reading this and then this...


American Soldier- Proud Infidel for more than half a century.

303 Roger  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:54:45pm

#278 Yank in the EU

Speaking of fascists, I came upon this after Mike C mention George Rockwell. He makes playing the violin motions while he denies the Holocaust. Ahmadinejad resembles the POS with the same sickness across the ages.

304 arier_Tzvi  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:55:42pm

OT. Cbc recently did an interview with Yousef Islam. AKA Cat Stevens. Here is the link.

[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

305 really grumpy big dog johnson  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:56:13pm

new_tommy

You are not being particularly helpful here. Asides and sniggering posts don't mean much to me, but your iron does.

306 gymnast  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:56:20pm

#265, Quando. I kicked your football and it reveals that you know just about everything about everything and that you don't restrict yourself to expertise on such seemingly mundane subjects as pork soup and Islamic dietary laws. Therefore if you haven't already left, would you care if I asked you some questions about ornithology?

307 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:56:58pm

#287 PBC

Yes indeed, the Euro far-right are real scum buckets.

The French fascists have the Gallic thing going based on a strange idea of the French "race", the Lowland countries' far right have the Goth / punkish element, and the German neo-Nazis are skin heads. These are not our people. There's a tribalism there that's against the core ideas in America (and Canada too).

308 Irenike  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:58:14pm

The Frogs have some serious problems. There Islamofascists rioting in their midst, torching cars whenever they feel like it, and the friggin' mayor is worried about the menu at the local homeless shelter. It's like rearraging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

309 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 6:58:17pm

289 NY Nana .

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

84. The following ten things are originally impure: (i) Urine (ii) Faeces (iii) Semen (iv) Dead body (v) Blood (vi) Dog (vii) Pig (viii) Infidel (ix) Wine (x) Barley wine (Beer).

Urine and Faeces

85. The urine and faeces of the following living beings are impure: (i) Human beings (ii) The animal, whose meat is unlawful to eat, and whose blood gushes out when its great artery is cut.

So bullshit is hunky-dory to eat? I think that might explain a few things...

310 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:00:15pm

#303 Roger

Thanks, I'd actually never heard of George Rockwell before a day or two ago. He from the 50's or what? ;)

Our American Nazis don't seem to cut the muster.

311 pegcity  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:02:07pm

#295 EE

Im jewish and i eat pork, hell i had some in my hot and sour soup tonight.

Pig tastes great.

312 Roger  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:02:18pm

#310 Yank in the EU

I didn't know his name either but he ran the American Nazi Party.

313 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:02:25pm

#307 Yank in the EU

The really deep-seated fascism one sees in these groups NEVER existed in the US except in tiny pockets. Ditto Canada. This is why North Americans have such a hard time understanding that although they are technically labelled "Right-wing", they are absolutely alien to North American conservatism.

There was a fair amount of racism in the US and Canada at one time. But that was a LONG time ago, and few people are left alive who remember any of it. Not so in Europe. Europeans are distressingly racist, and VERY anti-Semitic.

It always breaks my heart when I talk to some of my Polish friends in Toronto. They are great people generally, but nearly all of them are deeply anti-Jewish. "We drink it in with our mother's milk" one of them told me.

314 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:02:37pm
87. If there is an animal, which eats excretion, and a sheep, which has been nursed by a she-pig, and an animal with which a human being has had sexual intercourse its excreta is impure.

Ok. So if you screw the bull, you can't eat it's crap. I got it.

315 RadicalRon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:02:39pm
#289 NY Nana

Where is Aisha when we need her? :)

Her carpet hasn't landed since I got her goat the other night.

And no drek thrown from the peanut gallery, either!

316 marjoriemoon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:03:17pm

#291 Pro Bush

With all due respect, you aren't listening! The SDF are neo-Nazis!

Take a breath, dear. I was mostly being sarcastic... it doesn't come out well in type, esp at midnight. My apologies.

Mostly saracstic because that is a perfect way to solve this *problem* (it's not a problem to begin with) IF the MAYOR was really so interested. He is not. He doesn't give a pork's behind. That's obvious.

Who is this right-wing group as described on the Yahoo article. What is the Right wing in French (took me years to figure it out in Israel!). What is the Solidarity of the French? I didn't see anything on it from a quick Google.

317 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:04:49pm

#305 really grumpy big dog johnson

Sorry. You are right. I'll try and keep on topic and be less snarky.

318 religion of bacon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:04:52pm

More from the "why pork is eeevil" link:

The pig is naturally lazy and indulgent in sex, it is dirty, greedy and gluttonous. It dislikes sunlight and lacks the spirit and will to "fight."

Errr, by this logic, eating lamb should be forbidden, too.

And if it's a health or "purity" issue, then why isn't tobacco haraam?

Once again, these people aren't even competent fabricators...

319 gymnast  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:06:04pm

#309, E2m. The only way to really bring out the best in Bar-B-Ribs is to smoke em real slow using dried camel dung. It's an old bedoin trick from the days before Mohammed. ///

320 marjoriemoon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:06:22pm

#295 EE

But to seek to establish a Food Police to make the entire population follow this dietary code is ridiculous.

The homeless population anyway :) This is the whole of it in a nutshell.

...too many food references...

321 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:07:20pm

#316 marjoriemoon

My apologies if I reacted in haste.

As I said in the last few posts, there are serious concentrations of really, really bad "right-wing" people in Europe that simply have no counterpart in America. Nazism never "caught on" to any degree in North America, but as with communism it has significant appeal to many Europeans (probably 15% of Europeans fall into that far-right bucket.

My main, overall point is that we are nothing like them evn if by coincidence we find ourselves on the "same side" on this one specific issue.

322 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:08:22pm

#319 gymnast

So monkey crap coffee is halal. Who knew?

323 solomonpanting  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:08:38pm

There's alot to be said of the "melting pot" of the US and, to a similar degree, Canada.
Those who refuse to melt, or assimilate, draw the larger headlines.

324 RadicalRon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:10:21pm

#310 Yank in EU

George Lincoln Rockwell is an interesting loser.

325 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:10:22pm
One thing I don't have to put up with on my own blog is personal insults... You're not welcome here any more.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

/tick... tick... tick...

326 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:11:05pm

I read about this controversy a long time ago.

Here is an article on the controversy from January 2006 in The Scotsman.

Here is another article from December 2005 from the BBC.

LGF: Taste the Greenbow

327 religion of bacon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:13:17pm

#324 RadicalRon

"Swastika-embossed brick driveway pillars?" Whoa...

328 NY Nana  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:14:20pm

#298 religion of bacon

The Europeans now proclaim that pork is a very powerful diet

Hey, even a broken Euro cuckoo clock is right twice a day...

Hmmm, depends. Some countries in Eurabia use the 24-hour system...decisions, decisions! Bottom line? The cult of islam is meshugga! And seriously, the greatest danger on earth...

#302 American Soldier

American Soldier- Proud Infidel for more than half a century.

NY Nana?

For nearly 69 years, and damned proud of it, too!

329 Lady of Shalott (ylreveb)  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:15:34pm

! BACON ! ! !

330 gymnast  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:16:09pm

#322, E2m. Actually, in the Magic Kingdom, It's baboon pellets and cardomon that give a cup than special aroma. By the way,do you know where to find Mocca on a map?

331 Roger  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:16:21pm

#324 RadicalRon


As I wrote a couple of days ago:
Rockwell had a great career and then

read Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf and the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion," and instantly adopted National Socialist beliefs.

They continue to rot brains as does the koran.

332 easy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:17:40pm

Well I missed the quandoversy, but some one posted this somewhere the other day and it seemes apt.
Orwell 1944:

It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.
333 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:17:55pm

#292 Iron Fist
g'night.

#297 Maximu§

#241 Quando

Hmmm..let me make an educated guess here:

1) Your a 15-17 year old boy.

3) Your only girlfriend is online.


He needs a girlfriend whose name doesn't end in .jpg.


E2m-
Had to go back to Fox just now- my wireless connection on the HP just died.

334 marjoriemoon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:19:15pm

ProBush: I always considered Nazism as a far left affiliation since it's really an offshoot of communism, which is the far left extreme.

and I have to head out. I'm falling asleep... niters Lizards.

335 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:19:23pm

#313 PBC

The really deep-seated fascism one sees in these groups NEVER existed in the US except in tiny pockets. Ditto Canada. This is why North Americans have such a hard time understanding that although they are technically labelled "Right-wing", they are absolutely alien to North American conservatism.

That's a very good point and not often understood. Namely, there is a stark contrast in the developement between American and Europe on the meaning of "right," which throughout European history has been tinged with a racial or ethnic element.

I have always said to people that the sources of racism in Europe today are very clear: the fringe far-right parties and their support among the ignorant who live in the countryside and get stiffed by the state with taxes (like many in the East), and socialism, which roots a great number of problems in the world in Israel and the idea of capitalism. The notion of the Jewish Lobby which controls America is the common buzzword for people with these irrational, hateful ideas about Jews. Anti-Semitism is still mainstream in Europe (as we know) and it overwhelmingly comes from people with a leftist, anti-capitalist ideology.

336 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:19:52pm

The always excellent Brussels Journal has some commentary on the court decision and the skewed priorities of Paris officials:

Last week, the Paris police issued a prohibition on the distribution to the homeless of soup containing pork meat or fat. According to the police authorities – the same ones who are incapable of restoring law and order in the Paris suburbs – distributing soup containing pork or lard is a racist offence since some people in need might be Muslim and hence not allowed to eat pork. Yesterday, however, an administrative court of first instance in Paris ruled that distributing pork soup is not racist. Today Bertrand Delanoë, the Mayor of Paris, told the Paris police to appeal the court ruling.

Pork has been on the European menu since time immemorial. In the winter of 2004 Solidarité des Français (SdF), a charity organization running a soup kitchen, began to distribute “soupe au cochon” (pork soup). SdF is a private organization and is said to be closely allied with “islamophobic” groups. According to critics it put pork soup on the menu to exclude Muslims. The organization says that the soup is a traditional French recipe with origins dating back to Gallic times. Even Asterix and Obelix ate pork soup.

On 28 December the Paris police prefecture issued a prohibition on the distribution of the soup, denouncing the “xenophobic character of a charity that excludes people of Jewish and Muslim confessions.” Paris police officers had to enforce the prohibition. This time the policemen did not need to enter certain Paris suburbs because the ruling sharia authorities in those no-go areas ensure that no pork soup is served there.

LGF: Taste the Greenbow

337 Odinist  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:20:58pm

#321 Pro-Bush Canuck

Heh, tell that to the ultra right wing/nazi Heathens in America... they would tend to disagree...

/trust me, I've had more than one confrontation with them since I've become a Heathen... and have the scars to prove it...

//insomnia is a bitch, especially when one has to go to work the next day...

338 religion of bacon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:23:59pm

#304 arier_Tzvi

Mr. Islam certainly is full of himself, isn't he? When he gave up music, well, he had done everything that could be done anyway. He wrote a peace song, and later John Lennon wrote basically the same song, "Imagine." Both of them were just "fulfilling the needs of civilization." And of course Islam is the root of Western civilization, most people just don't realize it. Uh huh. What a steaming pile of horses**t. And the whole thing sounds like some crappy amateur podcast.

339 Thin Blue Line  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:24:03pm

Inspector Cluseau any thoughts?

Burn the soup kitchen's... you fool!

340 really grumpy big dog johnson  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:24:25pm

new_tommy

Thank you. I may have been too harsh, but I'm wired right now in the worst way. There will be no freedom if we abandon the chase.

It occurred to me just minutes ago that some serious discussion needs to ensue in order to develop the strategy for why we need to do what we do.

Jokes aside, the business at hand is defined by that word.

Have you ever imagined the scimitar slicing your neck just short of your death? I do, and it's not just once in a while.

341 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:26:52pm

Alright, this guy just really makes me sick.

First Lt. Ehren Watada

342 Yank in the EU  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:28:30pm

#316 marjorie

The Solidarité des Français.

Their website: [Link: www.association-sdf.com...]

Reminiscent of: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

343 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:29:23pm

Not too much new information, but here is an article from last January from MSNBC.

Spiegel, in an article from the same period as the MSNBC one, and in true leftist fashion, pulls no punches: "France Battling Bigot Broth for the Homeless" The entire article quotes extensively from pork soup opponents but provides little coverage of the other sides take on things.

(Hey, maybe they should try battling crime rather than soup for a change?)

LGF: Taste the Greenbow

344 religion of bacon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:29:49pm

#341 DesertSage

And interviewed by that maggot Kevin Sites, no less.

345 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:30:58pm

Conscientious Rejector?
First Lieutenant Ehren Watada still refuses Iraq deployment orders, calling the war illegal. A six-year prison term could result. Preliminary hearings are set for Thursday.

[Link: hotzone.yahoo.com...]

346 religion of bacon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:31:15pm

#340 really grumpy big dog johnson

Have you ever imagined the scimitar slicing your neck just short of your death? I do, and it's not just once in a while.

And here I thought I was causing myself psychic damage by listening to a Cat Stevens interview while reading about George Rockwell while South Park in on in the other room...

347 Max DarkSide  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:32:00pm

Ok, let me think through some parallels here... If a bar serves alcohol and Muslims or Mormons, or others, can't drink it, must the bar stop serving? Was the soup kitchen gov't funded, thus the gov't has a say? Is serving alcohol or pork soup okay if you charge for it but not ok if it's free?

/scratches head, missing part of the picture... Thread is too long to read it all.

348 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:32:00pm

Oops!

349 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:33:31pm

Matisyahu on Leno right now.

350 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:34:05pm

#297 Maximu§,

1) Your a 15-17 year old boy.

2) Your only girlfriend is online. You've never even caught a sniff of a girl except for your sister.

3) You write for the school paper.

4) Your one of the freaks my son and his friends picks on in the hallways.

5) Quando, you've got a terrible case of pimples on your face and your butt.

351 Max DarkSide  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:35:37pm

As an aside, a friend worked in a grocery store deli and one day some numb-nuts came up to her and asked...

"What kind of meat is in your pork fried rice?"

That was around the time she was attacked by Vegan's for having meat in her deli case, but that's another story.

352 Dr. Manhattan  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:35:43pm

Matisyahu = The Man

353 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:36:56pm

American Soldier- You are incorrect my friend, Leno doesn't come on for another two hours...

354 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:41:09pm

A test for US allies: How they treat women
[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]
Pakistan's treatment of women shows why they should be considered US allies in the war on terror, unlike Saudi Arabia.


What absolute BS!

355 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:41:50pm

Debbie Schlussel commented (negatively) upon the French War on Pork back last January.

Are the Muslim food police coming to America? Imagine American police using permits to shut you down if you serve pork or any pig products.

That's what's happening in France. Here in the States we have the Center for the Study of Science in the Public Interest, which comes out with monthly reports assaulting movie refreshments, Asian food, Italian food--virtually anything consumable.

But they ain't got nothin' on French Muslims. Pursuant to Muslims' demands, French police are using permits to shut down homeless soup kitchens that serve Pork soup, an age-old French dish. (Pigs are not Hallal--or "permitted"--under Muslim dietary laws.) In some French cities, Muslims have succeeded in an OUTRIGHT BAN on the soup. That should disturb all freedom-loving Americans.

An article from the Telegraph on the Pork Pettifoggery from February of last year.

Another "German guilt" take on the pork controversy from earlier this year. Deutsche Welle: "Charity Slammed for Serving Discriminatory Soup." They've already determined that it is discriminatory even though the only thing holding back anyone from getting a bowl is their own dietary habits, not the discrimination of the soup kitchen organizers.

LGF: Taste the Greenbow

356 solomonpanting  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:42:24pm
#353 DesertSage 1/3/2007 09:36PM PST

American Soldier- You are incorrect my friend, Leno doesn't come on for another two hours...


09:36PM PST=11:36 or 12:36 if you look eastward.

357 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:45:41pm

India awakens to its other pariahs: Muslims

[Link: www.csmonitor.com...]

This, he says, is the life of a Muslim in India, And perhaps for the first time, this Hindu nation is beginning to believe him. For the past 60 years, Indian Muslims have more often been the subjects of blame - for terrorism and the 1947 partition with Pakistan - than sympathy.

Yet in November, a government-appointed panel suggested that ignorance and prejudice have now made Muslims an underclass on par with the lowest Hindu castes. Now, politicians who have long avoided the subject are openly talking of helping Muslims - potentially even setting aside quotas for Muslim admission into schools and political institutions.

It is an important moment. After two decades of increasing communal tension here, there is a growing acknowledgment that India can no longer afford to make Muslims feel like strangers in their own country.

"Now that things are calming down, people are beginning to see things as they are, rather than through prejudiced eyes," says Rajeev Bhargava, a political scientist at Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi.

The concern, he says, is "that if we don't do something, they'll be drawn to militancy."

358 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:46:25pm

Zombie has been Farked.

And jimmyhaha thinks that Zombie is a dipwad (comments).

Jimmy is an asshat!

359 carridine  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:48:04pm

Mama Winger: It bounced, undeliverable. Check yr email addy here? Correct?

I'll try again, immediately, Ma'am

360 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:48:20pm

#353 DesertSage
ROFL.
There is a U.S. East of the Sierra range...
0048 here, or 0548Z, if you will...

361 find your violent jihadi on ebay!  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:49:43pm

Wait a sec...Are these the same police who were recently:

- demonstrating against the 1000's of their own who'd been injured fighting the "youths",
- demanding the right to use more force in the "youth" neighborhoods, and
- naming the car-beques and daily riots as an "intifada"?

And now they're demanding that free pork soup not be served because it's racist?!

Maybe it's all the soup's fault. Or the Jews. Or maybe Jewish soup.

Mass confusion reigns in France.

362 godziller  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:51:38pm

Another case of destroy the competition instead of innovating yourself. Just like the Muslim terrorists with nothing to offer humanity so seek to destroy those who do. These wackos don't like pork soup being served? Fine. Open your own charity and serve halal or kosher soup yourselves. Problem solved. It's called the free market. Something France ought to look into.

363 DesertSage  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:51:41pm

#360 American Soldier

There is a U.S. East of the Sierra range...

Now you tell me!
I need to get out more often :')

364 yochanan  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:52:06pm

the soup is not kosher what ever meat is put into it. if they want to give the pork soup to poor christians i as a jew have no problem wiht it anyway. As long as the french gov't allows a kosher soup kitchen.

365 Momzilla  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:52:23pm

My favorite pork soup recipe:

Zuppa Tuscana

(NOTE: I substitute half and half for the heavy cream because I like the taste and consistency better.)

366 Odinist  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:53:31pm

#359 carridine

I still have you and yours in my prayers- I hope things get better in your 'neck of the woods', but am not holding my breath...

367 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:56:06pm
Mass confusion reigns in France.

Problem is, almost no one in the EU is going to Mass, Chapel, Church, Synagogue. many Christian denoninations are not even allow. Germany, for instance only recently anything other that Catholic or Lutheran. Most of the Catholic churches are nothing more than museums.

368 Van Impe  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:56:29pm

Meanwhile in Belgium:

Living cheek by jowl in Brussels with the many bureaucrats who run the European Union, Muslims in the city turned an estimated 25,000 sheep toward Mecca this year and cut their throats to celebrate the story of Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son to God. Eid al-Adha commemorates God's reprieve which allowed Abraham to kill a ram instead of his son. While some, like Mr. Mimoun, head to official slaughterhouses, many Muslims, fearing long waits, kill their sheep illegally in their backyards and basements instead.

Whether at a slaughterhouse or at home, the practice raises the ire of animal-rights activists. For years, they have held anguished protests against the manner in which the sheep are slaughtered, arguing that the sheep should be stunned first to lessen their pain. "It's not normal to have thousands of sheep slaughtered like this in the middle of a major European city," says Ann De Greef, a Belgian animal-rights campaigner.

While Muslim authorities in France sanction the use of electronic stunning methods, Muslim authorities in Belgium forbid it. For the sacrifice to be completed in accordance with Islam, says Mr. Beyazgül, the lamb must die from a loss of blood while its head is turned toward Mecca in Saudi Arabia, birthplace of the Prophet Muhammad. Stunning the animals before slitting their throats, he says, could lead to the animal dying prematurely, against Islamic principles.

To ease the strain on slaughterhouses, city leaders have suggested the Muslim community spread out the sacrifice over the three days of the festival, which ended this year on Jan. 1. Nothing doing, says Mr. Beyazgül. "Everyone wants to kill their sheep in the morning of the first day," he says. "They want to eat their sheep for lunch."

The rush to slaughter so many sheep within hours led to catastrophe during last year's festival. A temporary slaughterhouse became overwhelmed with long lines and malfunctioning water and drainage systems. In a hurry to get home, some celebrants began slaughtering sheep on top of live sheep as large pools of blood formed.

Savages! Superstitious savages!

From WSJ

369 NY Nana  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:56:55pm

#349 American Soldier

Saw him...for all the doubters, are you in another time zone? I am on the Right Coast!

Here is a beaut from al-Guardian, and Londonistan, Eurabia:

Britain should integrate into cult of islam muslim 'values'...what the hell are they, besides murder, homicide bombing, etc., etc., etc.?

Warning: May induce serious urge to puke.

370 cicero05  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 7:58:21pm

I've always suspected pork soup of latent racism. It's nothing I can put my finger on -- its just something in pork soup's attitude that says "I'm superior to Jews and muslims."

If you want a tolerant and open-minded soup you've got to go with minestrone.

371 Right Side  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:08:47pm

#167 Quando:
Since unlike you, I don't subscribe to the doctrines of moral relativism or moral equivalence, let me state my position as concisely as I can:

The Jews did NOT deserve what the Nazis did to them in World War II.

The Muslims are STARTING to deserve it.

The Muslims aren't quite at that point yet. But their incredible behavior--the thousand-year jihads, the calls for the death and destruction of Western civilization, their contempt for (if not hatred of) any and all non-Muslims, their 7th century barbarisms, their burqas, their honor killings, everything about them, is making me question their continuing usefulness to this planet.

They are a collection of international parasites, who stole the oil properties from the British oil companies and are now proceeding to suck the world dry financially while returning nothing but threats, terrorism, barbarism and savagery.

That's not what the Jews did.

That's what the Muslims are doing. Right now.

372 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:09:47pm

N. Korea escalates 'cult of Kim' to counter West's influence
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

North Koreans are taught to worship Kim Jong Il as a god. In a manner unique among nations, the North exerts extraordinary control through deification - a cult ideology of complete subservience - that goes beyond the "Stalinist" label often used to describe the newly nuclear North.

While outsiders can see film clips of huge festivals honoring Mr. Kim, the extraordinary degree of cult worship is not well known, nor that programs promoting the ideology of Kim are growing, according to refugees, diplomats, and others who have visited the Hermit Kingdom.

In fact, in a time of famine and poverty, government spending on Kim-family deification - now nearly 40 percent of the visible budget - is the only category in the North's budget to increase, according to a new white paper by the Korea Institute for International Economic Policy in Seoul. It is rising even as defense, welfare, and bureaucracy spending has decreased. The increase pays for ideology schools, some 30,000 Kim monuments, gymnastic festivals, films and books, billboards and murals, 40,000 "research institutes," historical sites, rock carvings, circus theaters, training programs, and other worship events.

In 1990, ideology was 19 percent of North Korea's budget; by 2004 it doubled to at least 38.5 percent of state spending, according to the white paper. This extra financing may come from recent budget offsets caused by the shutting down of older state funding categories, says Alexander Mansourov of the Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies in Honolulu.

I'll bet the poor starving bastards wish their 'god' could turn water to wine, multiply loaves and fishes, etc.

373 RTLM  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:13:48pm

#367 cbinflux
Its a matter of time before the Cathedral of Notre Dame becomes a mosque.

374 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:16:00pm

#373 rtlm
And the Sgt. Recruiter just around the corner won't be serving those wonderful sausage baskets as you walk in.

375 Evan from NZ  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:17:39pm

OT

Finkelstein compares standwithus to Hitlerjugend

And this from a guy supposedly angry at the abuse of the memory of the Holocaust.

376 cbinflux  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:18:31pm

G'nite Leezards!

377 RadicalRon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:19:11pm
#327 religion of bacon


"Swastika-embossed brick driveway pillars?" Whoa...

Yep. But you have to consider that was done back in the Dark Ages when political parties could spend their money any damned ol' way they wanted to.

Such as massive GOTV programs in all of Chicago's graveyards for the 1960 election.

378 Highrise  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:39:08pm

#241 quidiot

#226 American Soldier

Whateveryourrankis, thank you as well, but I have an education and therefore a real job.

Guess you just regurgitate the kerryisms out there eh?

Lame.

/salutes our soldiers

379 Highrise  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:39:51pm

Oh or is it just a "joke" gone bad as kerry wants us to believe :P

380 RadicalRon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:42:38pm

Totally OT

If somebody out there understands German, kindly take a listen to Klassik Radio in Hamburg.

During many of their news segments, I've been hearing references made to der Fuhrer und das SS, so I'm a bit curious as to what the Heinies are yapping about.

/I can say Heinies, because I've been a Heinie all of my life. Or, maybe I was born that way.

381 carridine  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:50:00pm

#366 Odinist: As are you, in mine, Sir!

Right now, I'm working my way UP thread, to see if Mama Winger has gotten my message about not being able to email her...

And don't worry, Odinist, I am ENJOYING LIFE to the fullest, my heart is light, my son's been picked to represent Thailand in a cultural-exchange program with Japan this year, and the COLD spell has broken into mellow, warmer days!

382 Murqtaad  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 8:58:23pm

Quando,

#226 American Soldier

Whateveryourrankis, thank you as well, but I have an education and therefore a real job.

Such unbelievable arrogance towards a man who fights for your rights and freedoms.

Quando, you coward. I challange you to an MMA styeld cage match. I'll give you 3 weeks to prepare.I have heard enough of your mouth, bitch.

383 zombie  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:01:12pm
#358 DesertSage
Zombie has been Farked.

Dang -- I got Instapundited, Farked, LGFed, Hot Aired, and who-knows-what-elsed all at the same time! My server is in melt-down.

384 Murqtaad  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:05:43pm
I have an education and therefore a real job.

Defending America's freedom is not a REAL job in Quando's world. It is done by lowlifes and dead enders. Yer anarrogant bitch. Back yer mouth up.

385 RadicalRon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:06:44pm
#383 zombie


Dang -- I got Instapundited, Farked, LGFed, Hot Aired, and who-knows-what-elsed all at the same time! My server is in melt-down.

When he was out proving that he's flop as a solo act, Jagger had a song about "being lonely at the top".

Same feeling?

386 Highrise  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:09:33pm

If someone is truly poor and needy and they refuse to eat yet take all the other stuff...

I would find that suspect.

387 Murqtaad  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:10:08pm

Sorry all. I'm a little too patriotic right now. My good friend who was in the 10th MTN in zabul, Afghanistan got home the other day. I saw him today for the first time in 10.5 months. After hearing his stories, and havin a few pints, I'm a lil stirred up. I'm Iron fisting myself.
Nite.

388 nakhish  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:14:45pm

At times like this I wish I wasn't a vegeterian. Well, sometimes you have to sacrifice having some fun in order to stand up to your principles.

389 Gothic  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:17:02pm

The difference between Judaism and Islam can be summed up in the following anecdote. God forbid the Israelites (Jews) from eating pork and shellfish because those creatures were unclean -- there was no refrigeration, anti-biotics, 911, or anything else that would make eating those culinary delicacies safe. God also forbid the same thing to Muslims, for the same reasons. However, Jews invented refrigeration, anti-biotics, 911, and everything else that makes eating pork and shellfish safe (or at least bought the patents). ;->

(On the other hand, Muslims invented the non-ironic style of machine gun firing, which is the abiliy to, without a trace of irony, shoot people who insist on using devices that did not exist during Mowho?mad's time.)

390 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:24:59pm

> Jamaican Jerk Marinade
>
> 1/2 c. whole Jamaican pimento berries
> 3 Scotch Bonnet chiles, seeds and stems
> removed, chopped
> 10 scallions, chopped
> 1/2 c. chopped onion
> 4 cloves garlic, chopped
> 4 bay leaves, crushed
> 1 3-inch piece of ginger, peeled and chopped
> 1/3 c. fresh thyme
> 1 t. nutmeg
> 1 t. ground cinnamon
> 1 t. salt
> 1 T. black pepper
> 1/4 c. vegetable oil
> 1/4 c. lime juice
>
> Roast berries in dry skillet until aromatic, about 2 minutes. Remove
> and crush into powder.
> Put powder and all ingredients into blender. Remove and store in a
> jar in refrigerator.
>
>
>
From the recipie book

> Jamaican Jerk Barbecued Ribs
>
> 1 cup Jerk Marinade (1)
> 1 tablespoon Sugar
> 2 tablespoons Basalmic Vinegar
> 4 pounds Pork Spareribs
> Commercial BBQ Sauce
>
> Combine marinade, sugar and vinegar. Marinate ribs for 4+ hours. The
> longer the hotter. Set drip pan in grill to provide for indirect
> heat. Use a low fire. Cook for 1 1/2 hours turning and brushing
> frequently with the marinade. Brush ribs with BBQ sauce during the
> last 15 minutes of cooking.

391 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:25:28pm

Chinese Barbecued Pork

Serves 4 to 6

1.5 lbs pork tenderloin (2-3 tenderloins)
1 medium rib celery, finely chopped
1 medium carrot, finely chopped
1 medium onion, finely chopped
1 tablespoon minced fresh ginger
5 strips fresh tangerine or orange zest (each 2 x .3 inches; removed with a vegetable peeler)
.67 cup rice wine or dry sherry
.33 cup soy sauce
.33 cup pure maple syrup
2 tablespoons Asian (dark) sesame oil

1. trim the tenderloins of excess fat or sinew. Mix the celery, carror, onion, ginger, zest, sherry, soy sauce, maple syrup, and 1 tablespoon of sesame oil in a baking dish and mix. Ad the tenderloins, coating them. Cover and let marinate in the refrigerator 24-48 hrs, turning occasionally.

2. preheat over or grill to medium high.

3. Remove tenderloins from the marinade and dry with paper towels. Strain marinade into a small saucepan and bring to a boil over a medium-high heat. Boil until thick and syrupy (5-8 minutes).

4. Brush tenderloins with remaining 1 tablespoon of soy sauce. Arrange tenderloins on hot grate and grill, turning with tongs until pork is brown and cooked through (16 minutes or so). Brush with heated marinade after about 10 minutes.

5. transfer tenderloins to cutting board and let coil for 5 minutes. Cut as needed.

392 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:25:54pm

Pork With Moorish Seasonings

Serves 8 for appetizers, 4 as entrée

2 lbs boneless pork loin or tenderlion
1 medium onion, finely diced
3 garlic cloves, minced
3 tablespoons, minced fresh flat-leaf (Italian) parsley
1 tablespoon Spanish Paprika
.5 teaspoon hot pepper flakes
.5 teaspoon ground cumin
.5 teaspoon ground coriander
.5 teaspoon dried oregano
.25 teaspoon saffron threads, ground
4 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
2 tablespoons red wine vinegar
2 tablespoons dry sherry or white wine
1 teaspoon salt
.5 teaspoon fresh ground black pepper

Step 1: cut the pork into .75 inch cubes. Combine remaining ingredients except 2 tablespoons oil into large non-reactive baking dish. Ad meat and toss ingredients to coat, then marinate, covered in the refrigerator for 4-6 hours, or overnight if needed (the longer the soak, the spicier)

Step 2: Preheat your grill (or oven) to high.

Step 3: when ready to cook, put the cubes onto skewers. Oil the grill (or oven grill mate), the arrange the kebabs on the hot grate. Cook the pork until it is browned on all sides (2-3 minutes) and cooked through, 8-12 minutes in all, brushing now and again with the 2 tablespoons oil. Serve hot

not very kosher, am I?

393 RadicalRon  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:36:01pm

Jules (AKA Julian)

1 - Jamaican Jerk Marinade

2 - Chinese Barbecued Pork

3 - Won-ton Soup

4 - Egg Flower Soup

5 - Orange Chicken

6 - We got stir-fry, too



/Zionist mishegas gene

394 Mike Nargizian  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:41:36pm
Police banned the soup kitchen last month, arguing that the handouts discriminated against Jews and Muslims who do not eat pork on religious grounds.

A) Most French Jews are probably not religious.
B) There are probably a total of what 1,2 maybe 10 homeless Jews looking for food there (and that are religious?). And they likely could give a crap if they were fed free food even if it is swine.
C) Don't you love how the paper purposely throws in how Jews don't eat pork too" and then calls the whole thing "anti-semitism" a coded message that anti Muslim (1 Billion) or Arab sentiment is "anti-semitism"... even though IT'S NOT!
D) What about the Arabs (since it's ""anti-semitism) that are Christian?

Viva La France

395 Aisha  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:46:02pm

It is the fundamental human right of every infidel to come freely to Islam, and the fundamanetal human right of every Muslim to be provided for by the kafir.

Of course, once one has said the shahada, and one decides to leave Islaaam, then, after being given a chance to return, the Death Penalty applies to the appostate. That is entirely consistent with the human right to chose Islam.

NYKafir should not laugh at the shariah of purity. Do not the Jews refuse to eat pork? Any number of Italian pasta dishes are haraam to both the Muslims and the JEWS. And what is it with the shomerim sitting around with the corpse for ages and ages. and the fact that for the Jews, the presence of a dead body is considered a source of ritual impurity. For this reason, a kohein may not be in the presence of a corpse. People who have been in the presence of a body wash their hands before entering a home. This is done to symbolically remove spiritual impurity, not physical uncleanness: it applies regardless of whether you have physically touched the body. About 25% of France is Jewishes. WHo should come to Islam, right away.

So, Allah be praised, you kafir are evil for suppressing and persecuting the Muslims.

396 Clemente  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:53:59pm

#229 Quando -

A lower-case "holocaust"... Revelatory.

397 fluffy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:54:39pm

#395 Aisha

About 25% of France is Jewishes.

Apparently, sex at age 9 rattles one's brain.

398 sharku  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:55:07pm

Unfortunatly... not evil enough, give us time, we will improve.

399 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:56:36pm

Ugggh. I still can't sleep and I check out LGF only to find Aisha. First nodroG and now Aisha makes an appearance today.

LGF: Taste the Greenbow

400 the Daily Kos Om Islaam  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:57:54pm
for the Jews, the presence of a dead body is considered a source of ritual impurity

Dear Aisha,

That's where Islam and Judeo-Christianity differ: where dead bodies are a source of shame, sobriety, and impurity for us, they are your ticket into paradise little shaheed.

Praise the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that he didn't give us such a satanic commandment as Surah 5:51.

401 Clemente  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 9:59:33pm

#395 Aisha -

'Dat you, Chuck? You playin' with us a bit?

402 fluffy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:00:22pm

#395 Aisha

So, Allah be porked, you kafir are evil for suppressing and persecuting the Muslims.

We need a separate Troll Hammer just for this sort of nonsense.

Who the hell is suppressing muslims? After 9/11, when religiously motivated muslims attacked the US, we have elected a muslim congressman and elected a senator named Obama Hussein.

403 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:01:22pm

Aisha,

About 25% of France is Jewishes. WHo should come to Islam, right away.

This isn't even accurate. First of all, it is Jews (or maybe you mean Jewesses, female Jews, who knows). There are no such thing as 'Jewishes.' Second of all, Jews make up about a half-million people in a country of around 50,000,000. That is around 1% of the population, not 25%.

LGF: Taste the Greenbow

404 victor_yugo  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:01:34pm

Thank you, Aisha. Your words bring a pleasant cheer to my heart as I go to bed.

405 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:02:48pm

Aisha,

What country are you from?

[My gut says Pakistan.]

406 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:11:39pm

I've always gotten the impression Aisha is just kidding. I hope I'm right.

407 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:14:29pm

Never mind, I've just looked through a few of Aisha's previous posts. Now I'm positive she is a comedian. You're a funny one, Aisha. Good night.

LGF: Taste the Greenbow

408 carridine  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:18:07pm
"It is the fundamental human right of every human to come freely to Baha'u'llah, and the fundamanetal human right of every Muslim to be educated for by the kafir other humans on behalf of God."

Unless and until you show HOW to recognize one human as the Holy Prophet without recognizing ALL the Holy Prophets, you're just another self-aggrandizing kffir, Aisha.

The Holy One, promised in YOUR REVERED Koran, is ALSO promised in Christian holy Scripture and Jewish holy Scripture... and an All-Loving God, Who INcludes other humans in the Obedient group, is TOO MUCH for you, isn't it, Aisha?

So let's see you make Baha'u'llah, the Glory of God, GO AWAY! Make Him disappear, erase Him from history, ignore His suffering, obviate His coming... its difficult, but YOU're up to it!

409 Beagle  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:18:42pm

Barakallah, Aisha. May your nether regions always be free from unsightly body hair. I wudoo if you do. All praise be to Allah (Sallaallahu Alaihi Wa Salam(i).

410 zombie  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:18:52pm
#406 new_tommy

not to worry, new_tommy: Aisha is just Dave from Australia having a bit of fun with us! Don't get upset -- it's all in good fun.

411 Mike C.  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:40:55pm

Seems this has to be gone through every time Aisha shows up after an open registration period.

412 Sharku  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:44:02pm

#410 zombie

Please come to the lounge.

413 Drill_Thrawl  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:49:37pm

Pork fat RULES!

-- Emril BAM

414 Captain_InsaneO  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 10:53:01pm

It's pretty clear that the human race has as a whole has taken wrong turn at Alberque. I mean, come on now...

1. We have insane religions wanting to turn the clock back to a time before TV and porn. On those basis alone, how can that be good?

2. How can you NOT eat pork? Everything is better with bacon! For Christmas dinner my family had a stuffed pork roast with roasted apples. At no time were we thinking, "boy this sucks! We have to eat pork!"

3. The whole crapola of not eating pork came from the fact that a bad piece would have killed you a few thousand years ago. Can we just get over this now? WE IN THE WESTERN WORLD HAVE REFRIGERATION! (Maybe you "chosen" muslims should look into that)

Oh please, world... Please wake up before it's too late?

415 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 11:04:07pm
416 galloping granny  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 11:09:53pm
#414 Captain_InsaneO 1/4/2007 12:53AM PST

3. The whole crapola of not eating pork came from the fact that a bad piece would have killed you a few thousand years ago. Can we just get over this now? WE IN THE WESTERN WORLD HAVE REFRIGERATION! (Maybe you "chosen" muslims should look into that)

Actually, Captain, a "bad piece" will still kill you today. The specific problem with pork is a parasite which causes a disease called trichinosis. It will kill you in a heartbeat. Here in the US we have not had much of a problem with it in the last few years due to regulations about what hogs can be fed, but just about every year people die in France from eating "measely pork" as it is called. Mozart is thought to have died from this.

I was watching a cooking show a while back where the "chef" served up pork chops that he seared for just about 2 minutes per side - still quite rare in the middle. (Pork needs to be cooked till very well done to kill that parasite if it is present.) Haven't been able to look a chop in the face since.

Which does not mean that there is no bacon in my house :)

417 fluffy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 11:13:30pm

#416

Hey gg!

418 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 11:18:32pm

Somebody should put "Aisha" in the LGF FAQs.

/Dave's not here!

419 fluffy  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 11:20:59pm

#418

Hi littleoldlady!

Does fruitcup go with pork soup?

420 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 11:24:40pm

fluffy! :-)

blech!?

421 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 11:30:17pm

How've you been, fluffy? One of us hasn't been around much lately.

/It might be me.

422 zuckerlilly  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 11:47:11pm

Good morning with a little smile ;-) bevore I leave for the hairdresser:

Customer: Hi, this is Celine. I can't get my diskette out.

Tech support: Have you tried pushing the Button?

Customer: Yes, sure, it's really stuck.

Tech support: That doesn't sound good; I'll make a note.

Customer: No, wait a minute... I hadn't inserted it yet... it's still on my desk... sorry...

===

Tech support: Click on the 'my computer' icon on to the left of the screen.

Customer: Your left or my left?

===

Tech support: Good day. How may I help you?

Male customer: Hello... I can't print.

Tech support: Would you click on "start" for me and...

Customer: Listen pal; don't start getting technical on me! I'm not Bill Gates.

===

Customer: Hi, good afternoon, this is Martha, I can't print every time I try, it says 'Can't find printer'. I've even lifted the printer and placed it in front of the monitor, but the computer still says he can't find it...

===

Customer: I have problems printing in red...

Tech support: Do you have a color printer?

Customer: Aaaah...thank you.

===

Tech support: What's on your monitor now, ma'am?

Customer: A teddy bear my boyfriend bought for me at the 7-11.

===

Customer: My keyboard is not working anymore.

Tech support: Are you sure it's plugged into the computer?

Customer: No. I can't get behind the computer.

Tech support: Pick up your keyboard and walk 10 paces back.

Customer: OK Tech support: Did the keyboard come with you?

Customer: Yes Tech support: That means the keyboard is not plugged in. Is there another keyboard?

Customer: Yes, there's another one here. Ah...that one does work...

===

Tech support: Your password is the small letter a as in apple, a capital letter V as in Victor, the number 7.

Customer: Is that 7 in capital letters?

== ===

Customer: Can't get on the Internet.

Tech support: Are you sure you used the right password?

Customer: Yes, I'm sure. I saw my colleague do it.

Tech support: Can you tell me what the password was?

Customer: Five stars.

===

Tech support: What anti-virus program do you use?

Customer: Netscape.

Tech support: That's not an anti-virus program Customer: Oh, sorry...Internet Explorer.

===

Customer: I have a huge problem. A friend has placed a screen saver on my computer, but every time I move the mouse, it disappears.

===

Tech support: How may I help you?

Customer: I'm writing my first e-mail.

Tech support: OK, and what seems to be the problem?

Customer: Well, I have the letter 'a' in the address, but how do I get the circle around it?

===

A woman customer called the Canon help desk with a problem with her printer.

Tech support: Are you running it under windows?

Customer: "No, my desk is next to the door, but that is a good point.

The man sitting in the cubicle next to me is under a window, and his printer is working fine."

===

And last but not least...

Tech support: "Okay Bob, let's press the control and escape keys at the same time. That brings up a task list in the middle of the screen. Now type the letter "P" to bring up the Program Manager."

Customer: I don't have a P.

Tech support: On your keyboard, Bob.

Customer: What do you mean?

Tech support: "P"...on your keyboard, Bob.

Customer: I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT!

424 humanity  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 11:55:49pm

damn ... its nonveg, and i am a Hindu...

so should i say, close all non-veg shops because its discrimination against Hindusim... Stupidness...

if they dont wanna drink the soup, then just dont visit the kitchen...

this is more Dhimitude... if i am running a kitchen for free, then its my wish what i want to serve... definately i am not going to serve champange with truffle cakes.. instead will serve something matching my pocket and taste...

i think french politicians are over sensitive on this issue...

Oh by the way, is really french goverment that Jew friendly... as how they are broadcasting..

425 Leauki  Wed, Jan 3, 2007 11:59:09pm

"Are the muslims and Jews being FORCE-fed the soup or forced to eat there? Geeze..."

I wonder if perhaps a Muslim organisation could found a soup kitchen or two and offer halal (and in the spirit of tolerance) kosher food?

That would show these Nazis!

426 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:00:10am

Good morning, dead thread.

427 auntieinfidel  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:00:55am

morning DTers
it is more and more obvious that the prosharia
cowsound-slime types will use anyone and any percieved societal weakness to further their own agenda. comparing selves to black civil rights issues here in USA and now Jews in eurabia. just as they cut and paste Faith of Jews and Christians b4 them to establish their charade. this won't end anytime soon, too many willing to do their bidding for their own agenda, as RL properly pointed out yesterday and countless other Lizards have in the past.
watched a few of Sir Churchill's appearences yesterday a DVD called the "War Years". alas was too short but good.
" while they may bring their worst, we shall bring our best " 4give if not verbatum quote.
auntie

428 littleoldlady  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:02:52am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup (sans pork soup :-/ ) is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

429 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:09:09am

Since TS doesn't seem to be around, allow me to supply an upbeat musical note from Great Big Sea to kick off the day.

I’ve got a smile on my face, I’ve got four walls around me
I’ve got the sun in the sky, all the water surround me
Oh you know, I’ve been down and sometimes I’ll lose
I’ve been battered, but I’ll never bruise… it’s not so bad

Chorus
And I say way-hey-hey, it’s just an ordinary day
and it’s all your state of mind
At the end of the day,
you’ve just got to say… it’s all right.

Jeana sits on the corner, what keeps her from dying
Let them say what they want, but she won’t stop trying
Oh you know, She might stumble, they push her ’round
She might fall, but she’ll never lie down…it’s not so bad

And I say way-hey-hey, it’s just an ordinary day
and it’s all your state of mind
At the end of the day,
you’ve just got to say… it’s all right.

Cuz in this beautiful life there’s always some sorrow
It’s a double-edged knife, but there’s always tomorrow
Oh you know, It’s up to you now if you sink or swim,
Just keep the faith and you’re ship will come in….it’s not so bad

And I say way-hey-hey, it’s just an ordinary day
and it’s all your state of mind
At the end of the day,
you’ve just got to say… it’s all right.
And I say way-hey-hey, it’s just an ordinary day
and it’s all your state of mind
At the end of the day,
you’ve just got to say… it’s all right, it’s all right

I’ve got a smile on my face, I’ve got four walls around me

430 auntieinfidel  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:09:57am

Sprite
if you are out there: sending you hugs and Prayers.
auntie

hey LOL
thursday already sheesh!

431 auntieinfidel  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:13:51am

Mike C,
wall to wall walls in Amerrrica!
that lyric always makes me smile.
auntie
p.s. Negroponte is heading out and anotherone bites the dust...

432 littleoldlady  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:14:53am

Yeah, and yesterday was Tuesday.

/what happened to Wednesday?!

433 auntieinfidel  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:18:29am

time she flies

434 Aelius Rex  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:31:07am
It is the fundamental human right of every infidel to come freely to Islam, and the fundamanetal human right of every Muslim to be provided for by the kafir.

Sure. I'll provide the bacon.

435 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:42:23am
436 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:51:01am

As usual, good stuff at Power Line. Too much to link individually, so take a look.

437 littleoldlady  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 12:51:06am
Nearly five months after last summer's war, only 1% of Israelis think Olmert is doing a "very good" job

Carl,

Unpopular? That's off the charts!

438 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:08:49am

George Will can still crank out a good one from time to time.

439 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:11:29am

Some interesting reading and thoughts from both Henry Wickham, Europe's End: Not with Bang but a Whimper and Sisyphus, Open Season.

Another day, another battleground.

Same war.

Morning folks.

440 nonic  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:17:54am

And for our early morning laugh...

The "radio station of the New York Times" has just informed me that "there are signs that economic growth in Europe may have stopped."

Good morning, people.

441 freedomplow  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:20:13am

NYT

Corrections

442 Excaliber  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:20:51am

...and the POLICE , of all people are complaining ?


Maybe France oughta simply be put out of it's misery ...straight-away .

443 Goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:27:16am

Good morning, Lizards.

Yesterday I introduced the book "Night" by Elie Wiesel to my 8th graders. I included the article by the former member of the Netherlands' Parliament (I can't recalle her first name, but I think her last name is Ali)from Dec. 16 about how she'd never heard of the Holocaust until she was a teenager in Europe. I mentioned that the president of Iran just hosted a conference in which the Holocause was called a myth. You should have seen their eyes. There was utter silence. I added, "That's why it's so important that you learn the facts now."

444 Excaliber  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:29:40am

...but hey ! wait a minute !

the French can keep that pork soup hot for free !

just put it on the hood of a burning Renault .

445 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:34:57am

About what you'd expect from El Presidente Loco.

446 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:35:06am

440 nonic

...may have stopped. Again..or...remains at rest.

It’s elementary physic’s, my dear Watson, not an alimentary physic, sir.

You'd think after 30 years they'd have gotten a hint.

447 Enraged_Badger  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:39:29am

I am in agreement with many of the Lizards here. As far as I'm concerned (and I'm a Jew who doesn't eat pork), if a free charity is handing out food, then they should be allowed to hand out the food they want. What's next, Halal only for charities?
Additionally, I am VERY suspicious of the usual 'it'll affect JEWS and Muslims'. This is the typical excuse that Islamists use here in Britain to legitimize their madness. For example, during the veil/black bag kerfluffe, the number one excuse from the Jawas and their male handlers was: 'Well, you let ultra-orthodox Jews wear their special clothes. Therefore, if you don't allow our women to walk in black beekeeping suits it means you're Islamophobic 'cause you let the Jooz do it'. I find it sick that all of them spew the most vile antisemitic drivel day and night yet for things like this whine "Oh, the Jews are the same".
A very dear friend of mine who is Hindu went completely non-linear when the Burkka hospital gown was introduced in that hospital in the UK (a couple of months back, the post is probably still on LGF) which, although obviously designed for muslim Jawa with the whole body bag and balaclava, was nonetheless called the 'Interfaith Gown' and blurbed that it was for all 'modest' women such as muslims, Jews (again!) and Hindus. She wrote a steaming letter to the hospital in fury (I know, I saw the draft!) asking if they had ever seen traditional Indian garb. The only women who are dressed in bags so that they become non-humans are muslims.

I noticed in the UK Islamic Daily, otherwise know as 'The Guardian' there is an Islamist piece puff piece which shows that they've practically even given up taquiya and are know being blunt. The title is Britain should integrate into Muslim values
To their moonbatty credit, most of the posters aren't buying it.
Regarding the Guardian, fortunately it's circulation is feeble, but it's read by the BBC and those types, which is why it's opinon is flogged worldwide as 'British Opinion. Mark Steyn correctly noted this in a recent article in the Jerusalem Post showing that the majority of Europeans were in agreement with Saddam's execution despite all the twaddle from the European leaders and media (who are so out of touch with European opinion).

448 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:43:40am

#440 nonic

The "radio station of the New York Times" has just informed me that "there are signs that economic growth in Europe may have stopped."

What growth, its been stagnant for decades.

#443 Goddessoftheclassroom

I included the article by the former member of the Netherlands' Parliament ...from Dec. 16 about how she'd never heard of the Holocaust until she was a teenager in Europe.

You'de be amazed how many adult Europeans never heard of Pol Pot.

449 Goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:45:06am

#447 Enraged_Badger

I lived in England from 1990-1992. The Guardian criticized America for leading the Gulf War. Although I loved its quick crossword, I told my husband that that paper was never allowed in our house again.

Although my husband tried to maintain a PC multi-culti facade, he did laugh when he first heard me use the expression "hag in a bag."

450 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:45:18am
451 carridine  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:46:08am

#443 Goddess: Morning, Ma'am...

Footnote to your efforts, which I applaud; I am even now working to bring a story to the screen; first-person drama based on the diary of a 13-year-old middle-class, NON-Nazi kid who lived through and survived the Fall of Berlin...

He's almost 80 now, has some fascinating insights, and some hair-raising stories of WWII...

He actually noted in his diary, waaay back then, that he overheard a whispered discussion about '...the camps...'

Help your students LEARN of the deadly, vile and insidious disease of racism (especially in conjunction with materialism and nationalism)!

452 Goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:50:16am

# 451 carradine

Yes, sir, I do. When someone asks, "How did Hitler get everyone to turn against the Hews?" I put on my "insance" face (eyes very wide and fixed) and quote some of the propaganda. They look very scared and soon say, "Mrs. Goddess, STOP THAT!" It makes the point.

I also try to show that any limit on free speech can be the beginning of bigotry.

I am careful to use the phrase "extremist Muslims" in my comparisons because we do have several Muslim families in our community and I don't want to get into a semantic battle.

453 Goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:51:13am

Have a great day, Lizards. Off to indoctrinate the next generation into discerning fact from fiction...

454 carridine  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:52:53am

#449 Goddess: I lived in England 1956-59; 5th to 7th grades; Dad was in SAC, Lincoln/London...

The British THEN criticized America for its (all-too-visible) "race problems"...

"You Yanks should adjust, like WE do!" (expansive sweep of Brit hand, to indicate a peaceful, postwar, WHITE Britain with maybe 2% non-white population, and most of THAT from the Bahamas!)

Racism (and rotten immigration policies at a national level) knows NO boundaries!

455 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 1:56:13am

6 iman’s and the Taxi’s, the Airport Intifada: Tighter airport cab rules proposed.

Lookin to be a real tough year.

456 Pennies for Patriots  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:01:33am

Re: #29 Earth2moonbat

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but what ever happened to "beggars can't be chosers?


Youv'e got it all wrong...


If wishes were horses, beggars would ride?

1) Irish Thoroughbred
3) Morgan Horse
3) Welsh Pony
4) Arabian
5) Clydesdale

457 nonic  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:04:00am

Re The Guardian.

There's a terrific British sitcom from the 80's (it was Margaret Thatcher's favorite show -- and is my kids' number one) called Yes, Prime Minister (a sequel to Yes, Minister).

In one episode, the newspaper reading preferences of the British public are defined as follows:

The people who read...

...The Daily Mirror think they run the country,

...The Guardian think they ought to run the country,

...The Times actually do run the country,

...The Daily Mirror are the wives of the people who actually run the country,

...The Financial Times own the country,

...The Morning Star think the country ought to be run by another country,

...The Daily Telegraph think that it is,

...The Sun don’t care who runs the country as long as she has big tits.

458 Confuzed  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:06:24am

OT: Hate Speech - Not according to CAIR

“Muslims are the vilest of animals…”

“Show mercy to one another, but be ruthless to Muslims”

“How perverse are Muslims!”

“Strike off the heads of Muslims, as well as their fingertips”

“Fight those Muslims who are near to you”

“Muslim mischief makers should be murdered or crucified”

Just replace the word "Muslim" with Christian, Jew or infidel and it's OK.

LINK here - from TheReligionofPeace website.

  Mo    51 &nbs p; Adult Rapist   Gardener at 54   His Profit
Aisha   6     Child Victim   Deflowered at 9  Her Loss
459 NoSubmission  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:13:36am

Good morning Lizards!

Wow, is the board running extra slowly today, or is it me?

In case anyone missed it, I finally finished my report on our counter protest at the anti-war rally Tuesday night in Union Square Park. Things got pretty ugly in the crowd and if the police weren't there, God only knows what might have happened.

460 Pennies for Patriots  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:15:32am

Re: #456


I was wrong also...


If wishes were horses, beggars would ride?

1) Publicly funded transit.
2) Your car.

461 bluebonnet  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:16:55am

France has finally gone to the pigs

462 DistantThunder  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:17:19am

I any of you are praying folk, please send your prayers to this burdened soldier.

Coming Home from War, His Battle Begins

463 revka  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:19:20am

Oh no! Breaking news! Bush has just said he will not seek a court order before openeing mail if there is suspicion that it is a terrorist and there are lives at stake! Ooooh.. new news! NOT.. I just heard it on the news, and here is the MSM version: "Bush signs legislation saying he can go through our personal mail!".. Now the EXPERTS are arguing whether Bush is overreaching his bounds.. SHEEESH... Like giving our airport staff MOOSlim sensitivity training is not enough for the libs!
Now they want to continue to make us vulnerable to terrorists. The libs don't have a core so they go with what is popular in the MSM.. I think the MSM are worse than the libs.

My conclusion: THE MSM IS OPENING US UP FOR DESTRUCTION.. It all boils down to that. They are embedded in the Iraq war and have totally twisted that to change world opinion and guide our decisions.. It is like they were elected or something. Now they are totally misleading us on all the tools Bush uses to protect us by saying it is an invasion of ALL OF OUR privacy.. BULL-CRIKEY!
Sorry, just venting.. WHen the mushroom cloud takes out one of our citites, maybe SOME people will wake up.

464 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:23:38am

Pork Soup! Should have been a Marx Brothers movie.

ALL HAIL INFIDEL CUISINE!

[SNIP]

THE TOP TEN UNDERREPORTED STORIES OF 2006

10. President Bush is Appeasing Iran.


If President Clinton had introduced the same Iran policy as President Bush, every conservative outlet would call it appeasement. Worse, they would be right.

This summer, Condoleeza Rice told a press conference she would unveil a package of sanctions and incentives for Iran. “It's time to know whether Iran is serious about negotiation or not,” she said without a sense of irony. If Condi had not yet perceived Iran’s game, she is irremediable. Second, the administration has made clear even utter rejection (Iran’s ultimate response) would not bring them to support military action. United Nations Security Council economic sanctions would come about on the Chinese and Russian timetable(s), not ours. Several veto-wielding UNSC member states enjoy greater trade with Iran than Iraq, the invasion of which they still oppose. Russia enjoys $1.5 billion in trade with Iran from two deals alone: building a nuclear reactor in Bushehr and supplying the mullahs with short-range missiles. China and Iran did $4 billion in trade in 2003 and signed a 25-year, $100 billion trade deal. French exports to Iran total more than 3.5 billion Euros annually. EU exports in general more than doubled between 2000 and 2004.

To date, this policy has accomplished nothing except to buy a nuclear madman time. Still, there have been few peeps of criticism about the matter. Presumably, this is because the conservative press has “carried the water” for the Bush administration’s malfeasance, while the dictator-coddling Left approves of it.

[SNIP]

465 revka  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:28:18am

#459, no submission,
THANKS FOR DOING THIS.. Those pics were great! I have been wanting to do this in LIEberal Lawrence, Ks. It is shameful what they have done to our military there. We need more of these rallies anyway whether the anti-war, war mongers are there or not. Thanks for sharing!

466 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:32:29am

The comment preceeding the story written by my brilliant friend MitchBax
(who will be president some day...)

Shake in fear, whores and beasts, there will be a direct line from babbazee to the presidents ear the day that it happens BWAAAhahhahhahahhahahaaa

An American military officer who belongs in prison

It is not the right of an officer or soldier to refuse deployment on the grounds that a war itself is illegal. He is, of course, obligated to refuse to carry out clearly illegal orders, such as to rape civilians; beyond that, he belongs in prison.

The underlying question of whether or not the war is illegal should not be permitted to be heard at his trial. The "legality" of a particular war is a political question between the Executive and the Legislature. Further, the continued funding of the war by Congress warrants a de facto finding that the war is, in fact, legal.

He has been given an order and has refused to follow it. The trial should be a summary proceeding, with the presiding judge refusing to allow the politicized testimony of the AgitProp witnesses he no doubt seeks to call.




Conscientious Rejector?

First Lieutenant Ehren Watada still refuses Iraq deployment orders, calling the war illegal. A six-year prison term could result. Preliminary hearings are set for Thursday
WATADA: Certainly. I think that when we take an oath we, as soldiers and officers, swear to protect the constitution — with our lives as necessary — and those constitutional values and laws that make us free and make us a democracy. And when we have one branch of government that intentionally deceives another branch of government in order to authorize war, and intentionally deceives the people in order to gain that public support, that is a grave breach of our constitutional values, our laws, our checks and balances, and separation of power.

467 somaking  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:34:46am

My G-d. I can eat again! Praise Something!

468 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:34:56am

250 Million Christians Will Be Persecuted in 2007

Around 250 million Christians worldwide will face persecution in 2007, simply for following Jesus Christ, according to persecution watchdog Release International.

In particular the U.K.-based group found that persecution is growing the fastest in the Muslim world.

According to Release, most persecution takes place in four distinct "zones": those of Islam, Communism, Hinduism and Buddhism. But persecution is growing fastest of all in the Muslim world.

Governments in even moderate Muslim countries often fail to safeguard the rights of their Christian minorities, explained RI. Abuses suffered by Christians include kidnapping, forced conversion, imprisonment, church destruction, torture, rape and execution.

One of the world’s worst abusers of religious freedom is Saudi Arabia, guardian of Islam’s holiest sites – Mecca and Medina. Saudi Arabia forbids all other religions. A Muslim found "guilty" of converting to Christianity could face the death sentence for apostasy. And anyone who leads a Muslim to Christ faces jail, expulsion or execution.

"There’s a conspiracy of silence around Saudi," said Release International’s CEO Andy Dipper, "probably because the West wants their oil and their money. But this is a government that hands out the death sentence for its own citizens who want nothing more than the freedom to choose their own faith. And while Saudi bans all Christian literature, it spends billions of dollars each year propagating Islam around the world."

But some of the most violent persecution in the Muslim world is beyond government control. Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the world has been made dramatically aware of extremist Islamist global networks. Although the best known is Al Qaeda, there are others who exploit religious tensions for their own political ends, RI told U.K.-based Christian Today.

[SNIP]

469 NoSubmission  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:35:03am

465 revka

Thanks revka! I really appreciate your support. We took a lot of crap out there, but it was worth it. Especially to see the gratitude of our soldiers. That was an honor.

470 somaking  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:35:29am

Some pigs are more equal than others.

471 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:37:15am

#469 NoSubmission

GO BOUDICA! You are my hero.

472 NoSubmission  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:37:55am

465 revka

Those pics were great! I have been wanting to do this in LIEberal Lawrence, Ks.

Kansas is liberal? I thought it was the heartland. Thats a surpise.

Gotta walk my dog now and get to work.

Be back later.


--- and

Morning Babba!
:)

473 zuckerlilly  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:39:50am

Israel's Next Battle: Labor unions

[Link: jewishworldreview.com...]

474 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:40:30am

BZ,

I still think the most underreported story of 2006 was the study that found liberals to be far less generous than conservatives concerning everything, including donating blood.

Hopefully, that should have put an end to the myth of the Dimocratic party being for the "little man" and looking out for "common folk's" best interests. Pure B.S., blatant hypocrisy, and a lie perpetuated by the MSM.

475 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:40:36am

Hey Zucker, happy new year...how are you?

476 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:44:46am

#474 goodbye_natalie

They are "good"
we are "bad"
that is the pamphlet they have all taken.

But as we all know
they are vicious,
selfish,
nasty ,
intolerant,
ignorant of history and reality
not to mention vile.

THERE
BWAHAHHAAA

I just reported it.

Happy New Year, Nat.

477 zuckerlilly  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:50:41am

Süddeutsche Zeitung 04.01.2007

Sonja Zekri reports on the surprising phenomenon that "since September 11, Islam has become more attractive for Germans than ever before. According to a recent poll carried out by the archive of the Central Institute for Islam in Soest ... over 1000 Germans converted last year, which was more than in the record year 2005. Salim Abdullah, the head of the Central Institute, sees this as a solidarity reflex as much as anything else: 'It's always at times when Islam is hounded and pulled to pieces that sympathy provokes people to convert,' he says. The level of education among the new converts is notably high and sixty percent are women. According to Sociologist Imgard Pinn who converted in the Seventies, 'A number of these people are psychologically disturbed. Women looking for security, refuge in the cosy Muslim community life,' she says. Others are fascinated by what one German Muslim termed the 'stigma of the radical.' (...) 'For someone who has had enough of Western society, conversion to Islam offers the most distant escape,' says Norbert Müller a lawyer from Hamburg."

478 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:53:04am

#459 NoSubmission,

Nice work! Looks like the verb "nosubmissionized" will be joining Zombie in fame one day and assures LGF covers the anti-American scum from coast to coast!

Thanks for the pictures and your courage to put up with the riff raff.

479 Timbre  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:54:34am

It's not "Goodbye, Porkpie Hat," yet!

480 zuckerlilly  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:55:14am

Hi, BabbaZee, thnaks and Happy New Year! for you too.

I´m fine and you?

481 shug  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:55:38am

Good Morning everyone.

no tankers last night , huh?

482 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:56:09am

Happy New Year to you BZ! Hope 2007 finds you joyful and healthy; limber as a noodle and destructive as a sphleen!

483 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:56:18am

Zucker, I live to tell the tale!


"SYRIA IS ANNEXED TO IRAN":

Who says so?

Walid Jumblatt, the Lebanese Druze leader:

I will talk about an Arab axis and a Persian axis. Amr Musa represents Egypt and the Arabs. The main Arab forces are today in Saudi Arabia and Egypt. We hope Algeria and Morocco will join us against Persia; that is, Syria and Iran. Syria is annexed to Iran...The ruler of Damascus bet his destiny and sold his Arabism for the sake of his existence. Assad is far more frightened of Tehran than he is of Washington -- justifiably so based on recent history. Tehran kills with impunity (including Americans) while America's ability to project force effectively in the current international environment remains questionable. Another reason why the notion of negotiating Syria away from Iran is so naive.

484 shug  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:56:20am

although we did have a bilge rat named quando

485 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:57:14am

Oops...guess I'm used to typing school or something!

spleen/sphleen

486 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:57:43am

Goodbye Nat, LOL!

A NUCLEAR SYRIA? USING IRAQI MATERIALS?

Olivier Guitta writes that the Kuwaiti newspaper, Al Seyassah, is reporting that Syria is advancing its own secret nuclear program. They quote European intelligence sources saying that "Syria has an advanced nuclear program" in a secret site located in the province of Al Hassaka, close to the Turkish and Iraqi borders. British sources quoted by the paper believe that "it is President Assad's brother, Colonel Maher Assad and his cousin Rami Makhlouf, who supervise the program."

This nuclear weapons program is "based on material that Saddam Hussein's two sons shipped to Syria before -- and during -- the U.S. war against Iraq. According to the Kuwaiti newspaper, this explains why international investigative teams found no proof of Hussein's nuclear program."

Interesting in itself but it also raises this question: If Iran's theocrats get nukes and decide to share them with other regimes (or with terrorist groups) how could they be stopped? If the soi-disant International Community can't or won't stand up to a pre-nuclear Iran, what are the chances anyone would stand up to nuclear armed mullahs?

487 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 2:59:54am

In their own words

"Muslims everywhere [should] dismember [the Americans'] nation, tear them apart, ruin their economy, provoke their corporations, destroy their embassies, attack their interests, sink their ships,...shoot down their planes, [and] kill them on land, at sea, and in the air. Kill them wherever you find them."

~(01/16/1993) Omar Abdel Rahman, The "blind sheik" and leader of Egypt's Islamic Group (Gama'at al Islamia)

488 NoSubmission  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:01:07am

478 goodbye_natalie

Nice work! Looks like the verb "nosubmissionized" will be joining Zombie in fame one day and assures LGF covers the anti-American scum from coast to coast!

Thanks for the pictures and your courage to put up with the riff raff

Now those are some mighty big shoes to fill! Zombie is my main inspiration. Thanks so much.
---
and
Thanks BabbaZee!

Be back later.

489 moshe28[deleted]  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:02:41am
490 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:04:09am

477 zuckerlilly

'A number of these people are psychologically disturbed.'

I'll bet! If the author/person studying the phenomena found the number of cases significant enough to note, it'd sure be interesting to see the statistics.

491 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:04:50am

#489 moshe28

I can dig why you posted that,
and wait till they get my call... LOL
but Charles does not like us to post phone #'s

LGF netiquette = Post a LINK to the # but not the actual number in the future...

492 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:05:04am

NoSubmission (#459),

Thanks NoSubmission. Great job.

If only there were a few more supporters with the gumption to get out there on the lines.

493 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:06:18am

# 489 moshe28

FYI, Charles doesn't appreciate the posting of that sort of information on his site.

494 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:10:23am

#488 NoSubmission
Mah Sistah!

For you

495 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:10:43am

BabbaZee (#486),

If Iran's theocrats get nukes and decide to share them with other regimes (or with terrorist groups) how could they be stopped?

Iran wants to be big dog, they ain't going to be giving away their big stick to someone else that wants to be big dog.

496 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:10:49am

I feel just a little bad about pork since I read this story about conditions at pig farms, suggesting the pigs don't live happy lives.


Although I love bacon.

But they graze cattle in the natural gas leases in my neighborhood, and the cattle seem so content just wandering around eating. So I don't feel so bad eating them. Free range beef, as it were.

497 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:12:32am

Where's the Jammie? I wanted to ask him about the football game last night! Bawahahahahaha...

I like their coach and actually don't mind the ND team. I just didn't think they belonged and had to say, "I TOLD YOU SO!"

498 Muadib  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:14:56am

#459 NoSubmission

Keep doing the Good Work!

499 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:16:03am

#495 Geepers
True.
They probably feel they can control them and use them as a proxy is my thinking, which is asinine, of course... but puffed up human beings tend toward assification all too often, especially on the deep, dangerous things that should appear obvious...

500 3 wood  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:17:34am

Good Morning Lizards.

Sports note:

Well, I sat down to watch a football bowl game last night, and a slapstick comedy broke out. Notre Dame's offensive genius, coach Charlie Weiss, called a fake punt on 4th and 3 on his own 34, against a team that has scored 122 points in the 1st quarter. I thought I was hallucinating. Hey Weiss, why didn't you just hand the ball to LSU, watch them walk into the endzone and save the effort?

And the Notre Dame offense, loaded with All-Americans, racked up a total of 14 points.

Notre Dame has now set a record of 9 straight bowl game losses. Gee, you think maybe playing all those service academies every year to run up scores and generate easy wins is coming back to haunt them? Hey Weiss, try playing a real schedule some year.

Now back to politics.

501 HeatherRadish  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:18:25am

Good morning, lizardypeople.

France surrenders some more

The interesting part of this article is that there was a link to it in this morning's Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel Online. In the "right-wing blog", under the columnist praising Keith Hakim (Ellison) for using Thomas Jefferson's Koran, of course. *mutter* But a link nonetheless. If they're not careful, people might learn about what's going on in Europe.

/Heh.

502 littleoldlady  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:20:48am
the pigs don't live happy lives

Hang on. Does this mean I have to stop saying, "Happy as a pig in s*it"?!

/bummer!

503 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:23:47am

Lil'Ol-LAYdEEeeEEE Hoo!

504 littleoldlady  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:25:19am

{BABBALEH!} :-)

505 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:25:44am

Pelosi Drunk With Power

Get ready for 100 hours of nausea.

Speaking of nausea, as a Notre Dame fan, I will refrain from further comment.

Off to meetings, which is probably a good idea.

506 freedomplow  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:28:30am
507 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:31:31am

goodbye_natalie,

I'm here, but I'm leaving.

Yes, the game was sickening. I'll be speaking with the coach's brother this weekend. I'll pass along any advice people have.

508 sandbox  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:34:34am

Slogans and bumper stickers for the war:

Ban the Veil!
Prosecute the 6 Flying Imams!
Allow Pork Soup!
No Separate Prayer Rooms!
Publish the Muhammad Cartoons!

509 3 wood  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:36:35am

#505 Jammie

Speaking of nausea, as a Notre Dame fan, I will refrain from further comment.

Maybe Notre Dame can give Weiss another 10 year extension?

Off to meetings, which is probably a good idea.

Dang. I was thinking Notre Dame could add the Coast Guard and maybe a convent to their schedule next year and really run up some numbers. :)

510 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:38:43am

Jammie,

My advice? Time to join the Big 10 and earn it like everyone else. Would strengthen the conference to the point of annually being the best and do a much better job of preparing N.D. for a BSC game.

Good university with a touch of class but the national coverage, the reputation, and the scrutiny makes Notre Dame suspect every year in a high stakes bowl game (since scholarships were limited).

511 seejanemom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:39:28am

"ALL FORMS OF DESCRIMINATION"...

You mean like if you don't have any money, or you stumble with your preference...the soup Nazi serving the FREE SOUP will say...

"No FREE soup for you! ?/

Release the Non-Judgmental Moonbats Into The Realm!

512 Muadib  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:42:45am

#440 nonic

The "radio station of the New York Times" has just informed me that "there are signs that economic growth in Europe may have stopped."

More signs that Socialism is a Stupid Idea.

513 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:43:23am

"Letter from Israel to the Secretary-General and the President of the Security Council on the "number of Qassam rockets launched by Palestinian terrorists in the Gaza Strip since the ceasefire""

514 seejanemom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:45:41am

I guess my split pea and ham made with my

GLISTENING

GLORIOUS

SPIRAL SLICED

PORK

ON

A

STEEEK

would be worse than a growling belly.

...nkay...more for me!

515 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:45:44am

Now They Call Me Infidel


Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Nonie Darwish, author and founder of ArabsForIsrael.com. She grew up in Cairo and Gaza , the daughter of a high-ranking Egyptian army officer. She now lectures around the country to civic organizations, universities, churches, and synagogues. She is the author of the new book, Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel, and the War on Terror.
516 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:46:03am

Good morning and Happy New Year my fellow lizards!

Babbazee, nice to see you busy posting a serious list of serious links. Great stuff. 2007 is shapping up to be a very interesting year, and not in a good way.

517 3 wood  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:46:39am

#507 Jammie

I'll pass along any advice people have.

Seriously, they need to play a real schedule. I can see keeping Army for the tradition of it, but they need to play drop Navy and Airforce and play a normal schedule for a change, including soem tough road games. Maybe then people will start respecting them again.

By the way, I'm already hearing some Domers are blaming Ty Willingham for last night's debacle cause they say these are Willingham's players. Now I've heard it all.

518 Kerfuffle  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:46:59am

Mornin' lizards and a belated Happy New Year and stuff to you!

Has Islam reformed while I have been out? No?!?! Damn. Oh well, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

519 seejanemom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:47:15am

#516 Kenneth---

NO INDEED, not in a good way at all...

520 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:47:49am

Axis of Allies

By Christopher Orlet

Writing last week in the Wall Street Journal Tunku Varadarajan made a good case that Pakistan's leader Gen. Pervez Musharraf has been for the past five years two-timing the U.S. The general has "played the Americans beautifully":

After five years of Pakistani collaboration with the U.S. military in Afghanistan, not one Taliban leader of consequence has been captured or killed. Afghanistan's president, Hamid Karzai, cries himself hoarse over the Taliban functioning out of Pakistan's western regions and he is treated with open ridicule by Gen. Musharraf. There is precious little, however, that George W. Bush can do about this: He cannot now admit that a man he has called his "ally" for the past five years has been double-crossing him nearly every minute of that time.

Nor can he admit that there is a "vast nuclear smuggling ring emanating from Pakistan" (Washington Post ), doubtless with Musharraf's tacit authorization, with Pakistani weapons finding their way to every rogue nation that can scrape together a few bucks.

Sadly, the case of Pakistan is not unique. Another so-called ally, Saudi Arabia, has also been playing the U.S. like one of Antonio Stradivari's fiddles. The Saudis have never been big fans of Team USA. In fact, 87 percent of Saudis hold an unfavorable opinion of the U.S. And their own leaders aren't going to win any popularity contests either. The Saudi royal family is nothing if not a web of contradictions: an ally of the U.S. in the War on Terror and a main target of Osama bin Laden, while at the same time an exporter of radical Wahhabism. In fact, the only thing the Saudis export more of is oil.

[SNIP]

521 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:49:22am
477 zuckerlilly

Others are fascinated by what one German Muslim termed the 'stigma of the radical.' (...) 'For someone who has had enough of Western society, conversion to Islam offers the most distant escape,' says Norbert Müller a lawyer from Hamburg."

Get a tatoo. Shave your head. Turn vegan. Be bi-sexual. Pierce something...many things. Smoke pot--even crack. Move to the top of a mountain or a remote island. Do anything but convert to a death cult.

522 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:49:35am
Dang. I was thinking Notre Dame could add the Coast Guard and maybe a convent to their schedule next year and really run up some numbers. :)

If ND really wants to inflate their rank perhaps they should add the Detroit Lions to their schedule next year.

523 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:50:08am

Israel will do whatever it takes

Douglas Davis

Within the next 12 months, the Americans or the Israelis, possibly both, are likely to launch military strikes aimed at crippling Iran’s nuclear ambitions. Those strikes may come sooner rather than later. And they will probably be nuclear.

Israeli military analysts say intervention is essential before Iran’s scientists are able to complete the nuclear cycle — some time during 2007 — and start producing weapons-grade uranium. President Ahmadinejad himself has boasted of ‘mastering the fuel cycle’ during the Ten-Day Dawn festival in early February when Iranians mark the anniversary of the 1979 Islamic Revolution. At that moment, Iran will have passed...

[SNIP]

524 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:51:53am

#516 Kenneth

Good Morning Kenneth!
Happy New Year, I've missed you!

Yes.. you are right... I believe 2007 will separate much wheat from tares and many sheep from goats.

2007. Not for wimps.

525 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:52:56am
526 3 wood  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:54:08am

#522 dirk diggler

If ND really wants to inflate their rank perhaps they should add the Detroit Lions to their schedule next year.

Did you notice GM Matt Millen kept his job? Yay! As a Bears fan, I heartily endorse that decision. Maybe they can give him a lifetime contract.

527 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:54:51am

3 wood (#517),

Seriously, they need to play a real schedule. I can see keeping Army for the tradition of it, but they need to play drop Navy and Airforce and play a normal schedule for a change, including soem tough road games. Maybe then people will start respecting them again.

Like themselves.

What the hell kind of pride do you get from running up the score?

John Cooper used to pull this same shit at Ohio State. Scared to death that he might lose a game he scheduled to play nobodies.

Now we have Jim Tressel who schedules to play the #2 ranked team in the first game, away. Damn ya gotta feel good about yourself for winning that one.

528 Sponge  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:55:46am

I'm sure I missed something, but can someone explain to me why this is news?

529 Kerfuffle  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:57:24am

[BabbaZeee]

Sadly I think that, with the 2007 congress, we will not have the resolve to do anything about Iran. Israel will have to act alone out of self preservation. And I think it will be by May.

And then comes the abomination that causes desolation.

Oh yeah, and I got some reloading equipment for Christmas ;)

530 danger close  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:58:02am

Gooten Morgen LGF!

Hey {BabbaZee)! Thanks for the link.

Just my usual before-I-go-to-work quickie post.

Revka: If you ever need any help in Lawrence, let me know, I'm about two and a half hours away. My youngest grew up there, graduated from KU at 19 and lives there now. It would be nice of me to visit a bit more often.

Because of KU, Lawrence is similar to Boulder, Madison and Berkley. There are others, I'm sure.


Toujours Pret

531 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 3:59:46am
532 3 wood  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:00:26am

#527 Geepers

What the hell kind of pride do you get from running up the score?

John Cooper used to pull this same shit at Ohio State. Scared to death that he might lose a game he scheduled to play nobodies.

Hey some get off on that. I work with Domers who have been talking smack all year about what a genius Weiss is, what a great team they have, Quinn is the greatest QB to ever take a snap, yadda, yadda, yadda. I can't wait for them to show up today. I going to be on them like a duck on a june bug...ooops, I just checked. They both called in sick today. Can't take it, I guess.

533 ec marm  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:01:05am

Morning All! I can't kick my feeble brain out of graphics mode into writing mode this morning. I need a good comment to go along with this picture. Picking on the French, of course. Any thoughts?
[Link: i89.photobucket.com...]

534 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:01:35am

#529 Kerfuffle 1/4/2007 05:57AM PST


Oh yeah, and I got some reloading equipment for Christmas ;)

Useful!

535 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:04:29am

#533 ec marm

What struck me immediately when I looked at that is this...

picking on ourselves, my thought viewing the image was we are sending the statue of liberty back to a land of craven surrender monkeys because we are all so deeply insane now that it has ceased to have meaning.

Oy.

536 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:04:42am
Did you notice GM Matt Millen kept his job? Yay! As a Bears fan, I heartily endorse that decision. Maybe they can give him a lifetime contract.

He apparently already has a lifetime contract. Other than perhaps Isaiah Thomas there is no worse GM in professional sports than Matt Millen.

537 chubby vegan  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:04:51am

You know, I have often wondered what a homeless person would do if he/she were a vegetarian at a soup kitchen. As a vegetarian I was kind of sympathetic to their plight.

Then the solution occurred to me...The vegetarian who goes to a soup kitchen, and is upset about the lack of vegetarian fare, should go out, clean up their act and get a job; then eat whatever they want.

Same for those who would have the gall and object to charity on religeous grounds. The best way to object to charity is to refuse charity.

538 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:06:27am

Did Moqtada Al Sadr take part in the actual hanging of Saddam Hussein?

According to the Saudi daily Al Riyad, citing a witness to the execution of Hussein, one of the masked men was indeed Moqtada Al Sadr. Knowing that Saddam Hussein had Moqtada's father killed, this would not be surprising. In fact the son would want to take part in taking revenge. But if this turns out to be true, this would be another major faux pas for Iraqi authorities.

In fact Moqtada's militia has not only targeted coalition troops but also Sunnis, including mostly civilians. This event could further the gap between Sunnis and Shias around the world especially in Iraq, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia.

Incidentally a famous Saudi ulema (high religious personality) Sheikh Abdelrahman Al Barak just issued a fatwa calling Shias "kuffars" (infidels) and Shiism "the worst religion". He added that Sunnism and Shiism are two irreconcilable religions". In light of rumors of Saudi involvement in helping their Sunni brothers in Iraq, these latest events should be taken quite seriously.

Hmmm, interesting. Personally, I find it hard to believe the Fat Mookie would have gotten that kind of access. Saddam was under US guard right up to his execution.

539 tfc3rid  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:07:22am

Good Thursday morning to you all, especially grand Lizards Babba Zee, Ed of many names, LanceKates, NoSubmission, Zombie, Charles and everyone else! Another mild day on tap here in NYC... Al Gore was right, this global warming stuff is happening... I LOVE IT!

Anyways, so today is the big day. The Dems officially take over, but of course we know that they have been in charge since November 8. I cannot wait to see the first 100 hours... What type of insane legislation will they come up with? Will President Bush veto any of it? Will he be shown to be politically impotent? What will be our fate?

Kudos and many thanks to NoSubmission for her tremendous work in covering the Union Square rally... I do find it incredible that those of us who trust and believe in the military operations in Iraq are basically threatened here in NYC. We cannot dissent... It is incredible. Great job, and of course, stay safe!

540 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:07:27am

#538 Kenneth
Jihadi legends to make him seem even more powerful, Iraqi agit-prop...

KILL SADR NOW

541 Muadib  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:08:39am

#513 BabbaZee

No country in the world would stand idly by as its citizens were viciously attacked by unceasing terrorism. Israel has exercised tremendous self-restraint in its response to these violations of the ceasefire and assaults on its sovereignty, people, and territory. But Israel has the right to defend itself and its people, as cited in Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, and will be compelled to do so if the rocket attacks do not stop.

God Bless Dan Gillerman.
God Bless Israel.
God Bless Freedom.

542 chubby vegan  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:08:41am

#537 oops "religious"

543 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:09:34am
544 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:10:23am

Kenneth (#538),

An unnamed source identifies a masked man?

Must be true. Was Elvis there as well?

545 Sponge  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:10:38am

If Notre Dame wants to be taken seriously, they need to join a conference. I don't really care which one, but one. AND ONE WITH A Championship GAME at the end of the season. Not this Big 10 farce. Have a championship like the other conferences. Teams without conferences should be banned from competing in bowls.

546 ec marm  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:10:54am

#540 BabbaZee

KILL SADR NOW

Remember when the Ayatollah Khomeini made his "triumphant" return to Iran back in the 80's? I can see Sadr someday presiding over the Islamic Republic of Iraq, if he is not neutralized soon.

547 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:10:59am

#541 Muadib


God Bless Dan Gillerman.
God Bless Israel.
God Bless Freedom.

SELAH!
AMEN!
and
Damn Straight!

548 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:11:38am

#546 ec marm
Did you know that he and Nasrallah are cousins?

549 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:12:08am

Boys of the Taliban

Rule No. 19 obviously indicates that the sexual abuse of young boys is a prevalent and institutionalized phenomenon among the Taliban and that, for one reason or another, its widespread practice has become a problem.

The fact that Taliban militants’ spare time involves sodomizing young boys should by no means be any kind of surprise or eyebrow raiser. That a mass pathology such as this occurs in a culture which demonizes the female and her sexuality -- and puts her out of mind and sight -- is only to be expected. To be sure, it is a simple given that the religious male fanatic who flies into a violent rage even at the thought of an exposed woman’s ankle will also be, in some other dysfunctional and dark secret compartment of his fractured life, the person who leads some poor helpless young boy into his private chambers.

The key issue here is that the demented sickness that underlies Rule No. 19 is by no means exclusive to the Taliban; it is a widespread phenomenon throughout Islamic-Arab culture and it lies, among other factors, at the root of that culture’s addiction to rage and its lust for violence, terror and suicide.

550 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:12:52am

I lost my cookie.

551 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:13:25am

Ok, I recalled my password successfully.

552 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:15:43am
I lost my cookie

Musta been the pork soup...

553 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:16:20am

Boker Tov Mah Lizzahs!

554 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:17:42am

Last nights big stomping of ND was one of the few I correctly predicted. I also saw Navy beating the spread against BC.

But I expected even a Miami having an off year to romp against a barely division 1 Nevada team, and I really thought Oklahoma, with a very unsportsmanlike Bob Stoops keeping his starters in well into the 4th quarter, would hang 8 or 10 touchdowns on Boise State.


ND needs to either follow the basketball team into the Big East or join the Big 10.5, as conference play often separates the men from the boys. Look how overmatched Kansas State tripped Texas this year, or how Oklahoma State has dashed OU's national title hopes twice since 2001.


Of course, ND joining either likely conference would mean they'd probably have too many teams not to have a conference playoff, but that is another test that separates the wheat from the chaff.

555 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:18:34am

#553 Ben Hur
Boker Tov, Judah

556 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:18:57am

Israelis blast past others in bid to own moon

Israelis own 10 percent of the privately owned area on the moon, according to Tom Wegner, a spokesman for Crazyshop, a company that sells plots of moon land to private individuals in Israel.

About 10,000 Israelis have purchased moon property since it became available in 2000. Of the 10 million acres sold worldwide, 1 million are owned by residents of Israel, Wegner said Wednesday.

Has it come to this?

557 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:19:30am
I lost my cookie
Musta been the pork soup...

It has been sitting out all night, after all...

558 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:20:55am

When She Speaks, He’s Breaking All of Islam’s Taboos

By Salman Masood

Ali Saleem may have devised the perfect, if improbable, cover for breaking taboos in conservative, Muslim Pakistan.

In a country where publicly talking about sex is strictly off limits, Mr. Saleem has managed not only to bring up the subject on his prime-time television talk show — but to do so without stirring a backlash from fundamentalist Islamic clerics.

And he has done so as a woman.

When Mr. Saleem takes to the airwaves, he is Begum Nawazish Ali, a coquettish widow who interviews Pakistan’s glitterati and some of its top politicians.

A real woman could not possibly do what Mr. Saleem does. In the unlikely event a station would broadcast such a show, the hostess would be shunned. And taking on the guise of a married woman — whose virtue is crucial to her whole family — would be equally impossible.

But apparently a cross-dressing man pretending to be a widow is another matter entirely.

It is something of a mystery why a man who openly acknowledges he is bisexual is a sensation here. Traditional Islamic teaching rejects bisexuals and gays, and gay Pakistanis have few outlets for a social life. The gay party scenes in Lahore and Karachi are deep underground.

Mr. Saleem has his own theory for his popularity: he thinks Pakistan has always been more open than outsiders believed.

[SNIP]

559 ec marm  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:22:04am

#548 BabbaZee

Did you know that he and Nasrallah are cousins?

Nope, I didn't. A train wreck is coming over there, that's for sure. The whole stinkin' area refuses to live in any semblance of peace. They'll all point the finger at Israel as the source of their troubles, completely acluistic as to their own deep seated pathology. Please insert another .05 cents for more analysis.

560 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:24:29am

BabbaZee

I predict that my Cabal will need a Litigation Jihad Defense Fund in '07.

561 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:24:33am

Sounds as if Notre Dame is in danger of being relegated to the status of a mere educational institution. This will be a tough blow to the NFL. Maybe they can start a junior NASCAR league.

562 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:24:51am

Hezbollah holds talks with Saudi king


BEIRUT (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah held talks on Lebanon's political crisis with a Hezbollah leader last week in his first such contact with the Iranian-backed Shi'ite Muslim group, a Lebanese political source said on Wednesday.

Hezbollah deputy chief Sheikh Naim Kassem and a senior aide, Mohammed Fneish, flew to Jeddah on a private Saudi jet on December 26 for the meeting with the monarch and his foreign minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal, the senior political source said.

The three-day visit was aimed at easing tension between the mainly Sunni Muslim kingdom and Hezbollah, which is leading an opposition campaign to bring down the Beirut government.

Saudi Arabia, like the United States, is a major backer of Prime Minister Fouad Siniora and has been critical of Hezbollah since its guerrillas sparked a 34-day war with Israel after capturing two soldiers in a cross-border attack on July 12.

"What came out of the meeting were signals of goodwill from both sides to improve ties, but no tangible results," the source said, adding that the two sides had discussed their differences and rising Sunni-Shi'ite tension in Lebanon.

There was no immediate comment from Saudi officials.

[HASAN CHOP]


BTW...not only has Saudi Arabia visited Nasrallah to make obeisance but Egypt was there already...

563 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:27:01am

"Acluistic"?

564 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:27:22am
565 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:28:35am

Hmmm, next year TCU is Texas' only real out of conference challenger. Which si too bad. I like an easy win to start the season, followed by at least one test to establish strength of schedule and test the team. OU plays Miami next year, so that adds some meat to the overall Big XII strength of schedule if OU beats the 'Canes,

But 2008 and 2009 have a home and home with SEC West champ Arkansas, and 2010 and 2011 have a home and home with USC beating Pac 10 semi-power UCLA.

566 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:28:54am

#563 Geepers 1/4/2007 06:27AM PST

"Acluistic"?

LOL

567 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:29:06am

# 563 Geepers

I kinda liked it.

568 funkyfantom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:30:06am

I have never heard of Jews complaining about pork, as long as no one is forcing it down their throats.

Islam, OTOH is all about forcing their beliefs down other people's throats- whether directly or through the intermediary of their leftist lackeys.

569 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:30:56am

Babablehboobaleh!

570 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:31:03am
Did you know that he and Nasrallah are cousins?

aren't they all?

571 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:31:05am

♪ Good morning {LGF} ♪ We have a loverly, sunny day today and it's almost Friday. :D

{Babbazee} Morning, toots.

572 ec marm  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:31:26am

#563 Geepers
Sorry, it's a new non-word. Applied to trolls, usually. Here's a good example. Hat tip to christheprofessor for the ACLUistic part.

573 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:32:11am

Has anyone seen auntieinfidel?

Please if anyone sees her, make sure she sees this article. She was just asking about if there were any Jews left in Lebanon-I had said maybe a handful if any, and then POOOF, here appears an article about the remnants of Lebanese Jewry in Ha'aretz.

574 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:33:17am

Where are the lefty saint pancakes willing to lay down and die under the bulldozers for this terrible APARTHEID wall?


Islamabad to go ahead with border fencing plan

By Mujahid Ali, Correspondent

Karachi: Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz announced yesterday that Pakistan would place landmines and selectively fence its border with Afghanistan to stop the infiltration of militants.

Pakistan's decision ignored bitter objections raised by Kabul over this controversial plan.

"We will do selective mining and fencing [along Pakistan's Afghan border] to discourage elements which pose security problem," Aziz told a news conference held in Karachi at Governor's House.

[SNIP]

575 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:34:23am

IRAN: NEW CRACKDOWN ON CHRISTIANS


Tehran, 4 Jan. (AKI) - The Iranian Evangelical Church has denounced a crackdown by authorities on its members. Under a new government measure, pastors with the official churches will have to provide a list of names of all those who take part in functions to the intelligence ministry. Pastors will also need an authorisation from security forces to celebrate mass. Christians are less than 1 percent of Iran's population of over 68 million

Yesterday: "Reeducation Camps"

Today: "Blacklists" and "Naming Names"

576 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:36:43am

BabbaZee (#566),

Thanks.

And geez, ya go to the "dictionary" and it tells you this:

Origins: From clue, an understanding, and atheistic, describing one who ascribes to the believe that there is no god.

Typos, grammatical errors and misused words.

Fuckeduppled.

577 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:37:13am
578 ec marm  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:37:32am

BabbaZee - thanks for the nickel! I wonder how much those old buffalo nickles are worth nowadays? Whispering - I got a message at my blog from individual in acluistic pic above. Resolved the I.P. address to San Fran area. Surprise!

579 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:38:10am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that the Democrats are off to a flying start with their most famous backers already nipping at the heels of the standard bearers making demands.

MSNBC reports that New Orleans is making the same mistakes it made in the past as it rebuilds. Should this surprise anyone?! They reelected the same folks who made such a mess of the evacuation and early stages of rebuilding that those problems linger. The Army corps hasn't made institutional changes reflecting the problems they have had in dealing with the region, and LA hasn't eliminated the graft and professionalized the oversight of the levee systems.

The Dems think that raising the minimum wage is a top priority for the nation. Here's just a wee bit of news for them. So few people are making the federal minimum wage that it doesn't matter unless you're a teenager or entry level workers in only a handful of states.

580 nonic  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:39:05am

#549 Kenneth

Boys of the Taliban

Great article. Thanks for the link.

This offers me the opportunity once again to mention my belief that one factor no one seems to be interested in regarding the global jihad is HIV/AIDS.

We have seen African countries pretend HIV/AIDS didn't exist -- until they had to admit it was epidemic in their countries.

We have seen China pretend HIV/AIDS didn't exist -- until they had to admit it is a serious and becoming more serious problem.

We have seen India pretend HIV/AIDS didn't exist -- until they had to admit they are facing a new widespread scourge.

And the Middle East? Afghanistan? Pakistan? Asian islamic countries? Where they virtually (silently) institutionalize male-on-male sex? As well as have growing IV drug problems?

I believe it's going to be a factor.

581 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:39:12am

Geepers ~

Fuckeduppled.

LOVE that, it goes well with Hooplewanky.

Fuckduppled Hooplewanky!

582 mama winger  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:39:29am

Carridine -

I got your email and have responded - thanks!

Good morning LGF friends. I am here vomiting along the Wisconsin Illinois border. :(

583 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:39:43am

#571 Miss Trixie


Good morning pretty lady, glad you have sun shine. I have rain! 0-:


Have a good Christmas did you?

584 Sponge[deleted]  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:39:59am
585 maddogg  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:40:12am

O/T
Are there any computer whizzes here who could give me a clue why when I come to LGF I'm on for less than a minute before I get an error message stating that EXPLORE has generated errors and will be closing the program. Then I get kicked off. It doesn't happen at home, or on any other web site, just LGF. Most irritating.

586 littleoldlady  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:40:46am
Israelis own 10 percent of the privately owned area on the moon

Gotta love those Chabadniks - always thinking ahead...

;-)

587 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:40:52am
#573 WriterMom

A surfer who called himself "A Muslim Observer" wrote, "Go for it. Though keep in mind that any Jewish attempt of reviving the once great community on Lebanese land should clearly disavow itself of any Israeli/Zionist ideology."

I think we've found a home for the Neturai Karta (sp?).

588 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:40:55am

#570 Ben Hur

Gevalt. I think one of the first words they learn how to write in the west bank is c-o-n-s-a-n-g-u-i-n-i-t-y.

589 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:42:58am

Evidence: Iran Supporting al-Qaeda in Iraq

Excellent reporting by The New York Sun’s Eli Lake exposes that not only were Iranian senior members of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps captured in Baghdad - and released due to diplomatic papers supplied them by the Iranian government - what was not turned back over to them were important documents detailing connections to individuals that are part of al-Qaeda in Iraq and associated with Ansar al-Sunna. In Iran’s Secret Plan For Mayhem, it is learned that this detailed information included names and phone numbers.

Iran is supporting both Sunni and Shiite terrorists in the Iraqi civil war, according to secret Iranian documents captured by Americans in Iraq.
The news that American forces had captured Iranians in Iraq was widely reported last month, but less well known is that the Iranians were carrying documents that offered Americans insight into Iranian activities in Iraq.

An American intelligence official said the new material, which has been authenticated within the intelligence community, confirms “that Iran is working closely with both the Shiite militias and Sunni Jihadist groups.” The source was careful to stress that the Iranian plans do not extend to cooperation with Baathist groups fighting the government in Baghdad, and said the documents rather show how the Quds Force — the arm of Iran’s revolutionary guard that supports Shiite Hezbollah, Sunni Hamas, and Shiite death squads — is working with individuals affiliated with Al Qaeda in Iraq and Ansar al-Sunna.

Another American official who has seen the summaries of the reporting affiliated with the arrests said it comprised a “smoking gun.” “We found plans for attacks, phone numbers affiliated with Sunni bad guys, a lot of things that filled in the blanks on what these guys are up to,” the official said.
Contrary to the Iraq Study Group’s assertion that a stable Iraq is in Iran’s interests, what is now evidenced is tangible proof that Iran sees its interest as killing US forces and fostering Iraq’s instability through inciting and fomenting sectarian violence by fueling both sides.


This destabilizes the freely elected Iraqi government and, chiefly through frenzied media coverage of the violence Iran stirs, serves to erode US domestic support for action against the jihadiyun in Iraq today and elsewhere in the Middle East in the future.

Of the American forces killed in Iraq by insurgent roadside bombs, perhaps tallying and communicating the ratio that were killed by Iranian-made and -supplied armor-piercing precision milled shaped copper high-explosive IED’s would serve to alert Americans to the true nature of the Iranian threat. Perhaps tallying the number of Iraqi civilians that have been killed by al-Qaeda in Iraq’s signature car and truck bombs packed with other Iranian supplied explosives (directly or through funding) would serve the same proper purpose.

Or rather, perhaps another story of the Iranian nuclear weapons program that has yet to realize its goals to imply instead that the Iranian threat is not really imminent.

As Michael Ledeen once said in his signature curmudgeonly eloquence, “It’s the terrorism, stupid.”
The principal theater in the epic conflict that defines our time and will ultimately define this generation resides not in the streets of Iraq nor in the mountains of Afghanistan, but in the capital of the vast Islamist state that lies between them.

We as a nation have simply not arrived there yet - neither emotionally, psychologically or physically. Short of an internal revolt by the Iranian people - with or without our dutiful and proper support - our impending approach to the epicenter of this conflict is inevitable.

590 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:43:39am

# 576 Geepers

Cripes, that's even an incomplete definition of "atheist."

591 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:44:18am

#578 ec marm

I got a message at my blog from individual in acluistic pic above. Resolved the I.P. address to San Fran area.

Surprise!

592 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:44:28am

Gotta love the BBC:

Fury as TV teenagers play house with REAL babies

The BBC has outraged child protection experts by producing a reality TV show where infants are handed over to live with teenage 'parents'.

The Baby Borrowers charts the experiences of the teenagers as they struggle to cope with the demands of parenthood.

Five couples - aged between 16 and 19 - were filmed attempting to care for tiny babies and young children.

Local authority officials were so concerned about the 'very real risk' of physical and psychological damage to the children that they urged the BBC to cancel the series.

In one episode a ten-year-old goes without food for a day during what the BBC describes as a 'unique social experiment'.

On another occasion a baby had to be removed from the care of one couple as their relationship fell apart.

593 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:44:30am

585 maddogg

SHOOT YOUR COMPUTER.

594 ec marm  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:44:37am

#582 mama winger

Good morning LGF friends. I am here vomiting along the Wisconsin Illinois border. :(

Sorry you feel lousy, whatever you do, don't read the comment from quando* in this thread to American Soldier. You'll go ballistic/homicidal!

Geepers - good catch. I can't belief(sic) I typed that in without catching it.

*I'm betting that Charles gives it the stick today.

595 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:44:55am

#588 WriterMom 1/4/2007 06:40AM PST

#570 Ben Hur

Gevalt. I think one of the first words they learn how to write in the west bank is c-o-n-s-a-n-g-u-i-n-i-t-y.

ROTFFLMZIAO!

596 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:46:31am

Saddam's execution cited in boy's accidental hanging death

Police and family members said a 10-year-old boy who died by hanging himself from a bunk bed was apparently mimicking the execution of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

Sergio Pelico was found dead Sunday in his apartment bedroom in the Houston-area city of Webster, said Webster police Lt. Tom Claunch. Pelico's mother told police he had previously watched a news report on Saddam's death.

Bush is now killing American children, too.

/moonbat.

597 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:46:42am

#580 nonic

This offers me the opportunity once again to mention my belief that one factor no one seems to be interested in regarding the global jihad is HIV/AIDS.

There were reports that Arafat died of AIDS, which is one of the reasons for the infighting during his long (but not long enough) agonizing (but not nearly agonizing enough) death. The French doctors gave Arafat's widow the medical report about Arafat's HIV/AIDS which she threatened to reveal unless the PLO forked over some big dough.

598 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:46:58am
I have a plan for the middle east.

1. Nuke it. Turn the sand to glass.
2. Once the smoke clears, look though the glass and get the oil you see.
3. After the land becomes inhabitable again, sell the land to Disney, call it Disneystan.
4. Turn the area into an amusement park for the rest of the Civilized world to enjoy, and it becomes a source for jobs and entertainment for all.

And you thought there were no easy answers.

599 NoSubmission  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:47:25am

539 tfc3rid
498 Muadib [love your nic!]
494 BabbaZee [Fi-AH!]

Thanks!

492 Geepers

If only there were a few more supporters with the gumption to get out there on the lines

It was only 4 women and 1 man. We usually have more people on hand, but it was very short notice. Thanks so much Everybody.

600 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:47:33am

#594 ec marm
...not frikkin' Quando again. My least favorite troll next to Sura 109.

Fuck you both if you are reading.

601 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:47:54am

And Indian kids:

Another 'Saddam suicide'

Kolkata, India - A 15-year-old girl from eastern India hanged herself in response to the execution of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, police and family members said on Thursday.

"She said they had hanged a patriot. We didn't take her seriously when she told us that she wanted to feel the pain Saddam did during the execution," the girl's father, Manmohan Karmakar, told AFP by phone from the town of Kharda.

He said his daughter, called Moon Moon, had become extremely depressed after watching Saddam's execution on television.

"She kept watching the scene over and again and didn't take food on Saturday and Sunday to protest the hanging," he said.

Police superintendent Pravin Kumar confirmed the suicide, saying the girl had strung herself up from a ceiling fan and was found dead early on Wednesday.

The communist-ruled state of West Bengal has condemned Saturday's execution of Saddam, with thousands of people taking to the streets.

Sapa-AFP

602 maddogg  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:48:12am

#592 MandyManners

Thanks Mandy, but I don't think that would improve the situation, though I might get away with it ;)

603 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:49:13am

RE # 584

Great - another moby. Just what the site needs.

604 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:52:00am

WriterMom

Good morning & Happy New Year, Mom! I hope you had a nice relaxing holiday. Things are pretty quiet here in the banlieu this morning, how are things in your neck of the woods?

605 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:52:02am

Dingos are out, Blog-Wonkified again...

Boudica:

It was only 4 women and 1 man

Yea... but every one of you is worth at LEAST 10 of them.

606 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:52:38am

From the article for this thread:

"The administrative court said the distribution was “clearly discriminatory,”"

Even if the soup didn't contain pork, it would not have likely been made according to kosher tradition (or the muslim eqivalent) so it couldn't be eaten anyway...

and how it is DISCRIMINATING to help the homeless? Just because some will, for religious convictions, not partake?

Every day I lose a little more respect for the French Government.

I think, instead, this is about pacifying the local angry muslim population, to keep them from rioting and burning cars. (Of course, my preferred way of stopping them is to show up in force,tell them to stand down, then arresting any who refuse, shooting any who attack.)

607 coz  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:53:03am

Good Morning Everybody!

{Babba} - Rock out!
{Miss Trixie}
{Mandy Manners}
{Writer Mom}

{} for all the other LGF ladies
[mangrunt] for all the LGF guys

608 ec marm  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:53:15am

#585 maddogg
I'm thinking, because of the size of information on a web page here (especially with a lot of comments on a thread), it is a memory or disc space issue. Programs are notorious for giving the wrong information when they have a memory issue. I'd free up some disc space, clear cache or set smaller. Close other running programs if you don't need them, etc.

609 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:54:32am

584 Sponge

Bah.

610 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:54:53am
611 samhein  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:55:16am

Whatever happened to the fact that one should be grateful for the help they receive? Eat the soup and shut up already. Be happy someone is trying to save your ass.

612 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:55:38am

A belated good morning to Y'all from a cloudy, coolish (50 degrees going up to 60 degrees) Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?
What have I missed?!

613 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:56:09am

{Dustoff TCG™) Morning!

Have a good Christmas did you?

It was just fine, thank you. Quiet, peaceful and I started dreaming about garden plans for the spring. How about you?

614 maddogg  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:56:32am

#608 ec marm

Thanks ec, that sounds correct, as we run a networked system and have had memory issues in the past. I'll check on that. Thanks again.

615 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:57:04am
616 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:57:18am

Speaking about hiv/aids.

Why would a state sell it's HIV/AIDS tainted blood to a firm in the midwest which further research shows is owned by China?

What are they doing with this tainted blood I wonder?

617 coz  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:57:26am

Babba,

Oooh, bookmarked that one!

618 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:58:00am

#614 maddogg
Happy New Year darling Dogship.

619 steve  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 4:58:22am

Nancy (the egoist) Polosi thinks she is the most powerful women in America.

Nancy Polosi thinking. Boy is that funny coming from an idiot.

620 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:00:11am

Maybe instead of bitching about what someone else is giving away the muslims should start there own organizations to help the homeless.

Oh that's right, all they really know how to do is bitch. No wonder they get on so well with the Leftys.

621 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:00:37am

oops 616

Should read by someone in China.

622 songbird  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:00:39am

Our Family Green Chile Stew

Starring >PORK

623 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:00:43am

#604 Kenneth

Greetings and Happy New Year to you too, my friendly neighbourhood Toronto-based infidel!

I got plans, baby-BIG PLANS. Pro-Bush Canuck will be in town, so I'm going to try and throw together a lunch on Monday the 15th if you can come.

PLUS: Plans are underway for the FIRST LIZARD SUNDAY BRUNCH.

BAGELS AND LOX AND INFIDELS! At a secret location in the Dar-al-Hurb!

624 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:01:29am

616 Emerald

maybe they're doing research into something that combats the virus?

(I'd rather think of that than think about them using it to infect multitudes)

626 NoSubmission  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:02:47am

605 BabbaZee

Dingos are out, Blog-Wonkified again...

Boudica:

It was only 4 women and 1 man

Yea... but every one of you is worth at LEAST 10 of them.

Thanks, Babba. We held up pretty well considering the onslaught. I didn't take as many pictures this time as I had to help out and my camera is fading again.

I'm still thinking of that rap song on 'taqqiya' one of our people did. It was fantastic. I couldn't believe my ears. Not one person in the crowd knew what 'taqqiya' is.

I'd also like to thank the NYPD for the outstanding job they did. They stood by us until the end.

627 Gadfly  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:03:09am

OT: Looks like they're trying to close the noose on three of the embassy bombing AQ scumbags in Somalia. Praying they catch them in a dinghy and blow them to hell.

628 ec marm  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:03:29am

[Link: www.firstcoastnews.com...]
Muslim Inmates Sue State Over Diet
By Jackelyn Barnard
First Coast News

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- There are specialty stores that sell the foods that make up a Muslim or Halal meal.

The goat, chicken and lamb look about the same as the meat you'd find in a grocery store, but it's not the same.

"The Halal meat is prayed over according to their religious beliefs and their god Allah," said Safia Khalid, of the Shalimar Food Store.

Meat that has specifically been prayed over is the only meat Muslims can eat.

According to a lawsuit filed by a group of Muslim inmates, Muslim convicts at New River Correctional in Raiford and other prisons across Florida are not getting the proper meat or meals that go with their faith...


No time to read it now, there seems to be a video that goes with it.

629 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:03:37am

#624 Lancekates
maybe they're doing research into something that combats the virus?

(I'd rather think of that than think about them using it to infect multitudes)

I hope you are right.

630 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:03:42am

#615 {BabbaZee} Good Morning Babba and thanks so much for that song - I love Van Morrison and Caravan is one of his better songs, I think.
How are y'all this morning?

631 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:03:53am

# 622 songbird

So, you gonna share the recipe ? Always looking for something new to put on the menu here.

632 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:04:27am

EmeraldLakeEyes (#616),

Do you have a link for that?

633 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:04:59am

#626 NoSubmission
GO NYPD. My daddy Jewfro Bodine (hattip on that moniker to E2M) would be proud.

634 jehu  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:05:27am

Looks like France is completely overcome by Secular Stupidism.

635 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:05:52am

#623 WriterMom

I got plans, baby-BIG PLANS.

I knew it! The Protocols of the Elderberries of Zion is true!

BAGELS AND LOX AND INFIDELS! At a secret location in the Dar-al-Hurb!

Dar-al-Hurb? I don't think I've heard of that bagel shop...

636 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:06:05am

Real... I am trying to come off the steroid (again !) and I am a bit swelly around the edges today - we will see if I can make it without taking more by dinner time.

637 coz  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:06:31am
638 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:09:07am

So what time do the kids officially take over in Washington?

639 Texas Heathen  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:09:10am

hi lance.
Whew...I noticed the previous lgf entry "gutters and rules" and started worrying that charles might be cracking down on the ddt.

640 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:09:31am

Fatah Calls State of Alert as Blood Runs in Gaza


Blood is running in the streets of Gaza again, as killings and kidnappings by Fatah and Hamas terrorists escalate to their former levels. Fatah has declared a state of alert among its ranks.


Thursday's toll of the Fatah-Hamas violence: One Hamas man killed, six Fatah men injured.

On Wednesday, three officers from the Fatah-affiliated Palestinian Preventive Security Service (PPSS) and an additional Fatah loyalist were killed in clashes with Hamas terrorists. Fatah members were called to "be prepared and defend themselves by any means in the face of attack."

Fatah, the terrorist organization led by Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) has accused the Hamas gang, headed by PA Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, of instigating the violence.

On Thursday, during the funerals of some of the Fatah men killed the day before, six people were wounded by gunfire. Fatah blamed Hamas gunmen for the shootings, and say they will not take part in talks for a truce with Hamas. A member of the special Hamas security force was later killed in a clash in northern Gaza.

Fatah also blamed Hamas for the wave of kidnappings that plagued Gaza on Tuesday, when 23 people were abducted by both organizations. Several of them were later released, including a Hamas man abducted in Ramallah who was freed Thursday morning.

A woman who was uninvolved in Wednesday's fighting was also killed after she was caught in the crossfire between Hamas and Fatah gunmen in Jabalya, just north of Gaza City.

The clash in Jabalya broke out when three young nephews of one of Fatah’s Preventive Security Service officers was grabbed by gunmen in northern Gaza. Fatah terrorists in the Jabalya area then shot two Hamas fighters in retaliation for the abduction.

Two Fatah officers were also shot to death by Hamas gunmen in an ambush in northern Gaza, according to Fatah sources.

An assassination attempt by Hamas militants on the life of a senior terrorist in the Fatah-linked al-Aksa Martyrs’ Brigades terror group ended in failure. The gunmen fired a rocket-propelled grenade at Hassan al-Qasa and another senior al-Aksa terrorist.

The ceasefire negotiated between Hamas and Fatah in early December lasted less than a month, as the two groups continued their year-long bloody struggle for control of the PA government.

641 songbird  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:09:52am

Rats, I typed the recipe and it did not show up! I think it is because I used what is an HTML symbol...here we go again. Next time PIMF!

Our family Green Chile Stew

2 lb pork cubed ( not too fatty)
2 large onions chopped
5-6 cloves garlic
1/2 - 1 lb green chiles, roasted and peeled. Hatch chiles are the the best! Use more if you are a glutton for punishment.
6 or more potatoes peeled and cubed
1 large can tomatoes
salt and pepper to taste

Cover pork with water and boil until tender. Skim off the scum. Add remaining ingredients and cook until the potatoes are done. As with all soups, this one gets better by the second day.

Feel free to modify the recipe (like all good cooks do) My husband likes his brothy, others may prefer a thick stew.

Greetings from Foggy and Cold Las Cruces, New Mexico.

642 jehu  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:10:03am

Interesting the picture Drudge has of the bug-eyed monster Pelosi holding a whip. I seem to remember Democrats loved their whips back in another era when they held blacks on plantations, the more things change...the more they stay the same.

643 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:10:51am

639 Texas

heh, I popped by last night to look for any suprising headlings and I saw that. my first thought was very similar.

*grin*

how's it going?

644 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:11:20am

{coz} Morning, darls.

{realwest} Morning, sweetheart *smooch* How are you today?

645 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:11:32am

#632 Geepers

EmeraldLakeEyes (#616),

Do you have a link for that?


No. My SIL worked in the accounting department of health for a certain city selling the blood. She took it upon herself to research who owned the company that purchased it. Based in China.

646 galloping granny  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:11:47am
#628 ec marm 1/4/2007 07:03AM PST

[Link: [Link: www.firstcoastnews.com...]...]
Muslim Inmates Sue State Over Diet
By Jackelyn Barnard
First Coast News

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- There are specialty stores that sell the foods that make up a Muslim or Halal meal.

The goat, chicken and lamb look about the same as the meat you'd find in a grocery store, but it's not the same.

"The Halal meat is prayed over according to their religious beliefs and their god Allah," said Safia Khalid, of the Shalimar Food Store.

Meat that has specifically been prayed over is the only meat Muslims can eat.

According to a lawsuit filed by a group of Muslim inmates, Muslim convicts at New River Correctional in Raiford and other prisons across Florida are not getting the proper meat or meals that go with their faith...


No time to read it now, there seems to be a video that goes with it.

Seems to me like people who follow the tenets of an upstanding and honorable religion in general don't find themselves in jail for special diet to even become a question. If you want halal - or kosher - or vegan - stay out of jail. Simple.

647 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:12:38am

Don't know whether to file this under "Ho-Hum" or "Palistinian Civil War Part 112,754":

Gunmen target three Hamas officials in apparent revenge attacks

RAMALLAH, West Bank - In a new round of factional fighting, assailants targeted three senior Hamas officials in the West Bank, kidnapping one, torching the car of a second and shooting in the air as a third emerged from a mosque, security officials said Thursday.

Separately, in the Jebaliaya refugee camp in Gaza, a member of a Hamas security force was killed Thursday when the car he was driving in came under fire from unidentified assailants, a force spokesman said. Four other people were wounded. Hamas accused Fatah of the attack, but Fatah denied involvement.

The persistent clashes - large-scale confrontations began in Gaza a month ago - are a result of the intensifying power struggle between the Islamic militant Hamas and the Fatah movement led by moderate President Mahmoud Abbas. Both sides have hardened their positions, dooming truce attempts to quick failure.

Hamas blamed Fatah for the West Bank attacks, which came just hours after four Fatah loyalists were killed in battles with Hamas in Gaza. Clashes also erupted Thursday during the funeral for the victims of Wednesday's fighting in Gaza, and five people were wounded.

In response to the renewed fighting, Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas cut short a tour of Arab nations and returned to Gaza on Thursday. His next stop was to have been Jordan, which has offered to host a meeting between Haniyeh and Abbas, in an attempt to defuse tensions between the political rivals. With Haniyeh returning to Gaza, it's unlikely they'll meet soon.

[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]

648 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:14:46am

Geepers I found this

HIV gained a foothold in China largely due to unsanitary blood plasma buying schemes and tainted transfusions in hospitals. China has cracked down harshly on such schemes and declared last ...

649 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:14:57am

The Iran We Cannot Avoid, by M. Ledeen,

There is no escape from the war Iran is waging against us, the war that started in 1979 and is intensifying with every passing hour. We will shortly learn more about the documents we found accompanying the high-level Iranian terrorist leader we briefly arrested in Hakim’s compound in Baghdad some days ago, and what we will learn–what many key American officials have already learned–is stunning. At least to those who thought that Iran was “meddling” in Iraq, but refused to believe that it was total war, on a vast scale.

Several good journalists are working on this story (see, for example, today’s article by Eli Like in the NY Sun), and the outlines are pretty clear. First, we had good information that terrorists were in Baghdad, and had gone to the compound. We did not know exactly who they were. We entered the compound and arrested everybody who looked like a usual suspect. One of them told us he was the #3 official of the al Quds unit of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps, a particularly vicious group. He was carrying documents, one of which was in essence a wiring diagram of Iranian operations in Iraq. That wiring diagram included both Shi’ite and Sunni terrorist groups, and was of such magnitude that American officials were flabbergasted. It seems that our misnamed Intelligence Community had grossly underestimated the sophistication and the enormity of the Iranian war campaign.

I am told that this information has reached the president, and that it is part of the body of information he is digesting in order to formulate his strategy for Iraq. If he sees clearly what is going on, he must realize that there can be no winning strategy for Iraq alone, since a lot of ‘Iraqi’ activity—not just lethal materiel such as the latest generation of explosive devices, now powerful enough to penetrate the armor of most of our vehicles—is actually Iranian in origin. We cannot ‘solve’ the Iraqi problem without regime change in Iran.

RTWT!

650 jehu  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:15:50am

What can we expect from Democrats? Easy. They are the horticulturalists for parasites. Their job will be to find new and creative ways to help the parasites of human society attach to more productive members. To find ways to let vampires work in sunlight, to increase funding for zombie factories (public schools).

To sharpen all the axes and chainsaws they use to cut down the great tree of western civilization. And to fund dance academies for the riotous, ribald, drunken celebration when that tree falls...in fact crushing most of them...but fools never understand.

651 Texas Heathen  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:15:56am

643 lance

heh, I popped by last night to look for any suprising headlings and I saw that. my first thought was very similar.


I guess we can relax until the title is "Debauchery and Rules" :)

Going pretty good but now it is time to get back to work. Type at ya later. I don't see any of the DDT wimmin yet so here is a blind hug for when you get here {DDT wimmin}

652 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:16:12am

#640 BabbaZee -GMTA! I hope you can stay off those steroids and still feel ok, but remember their purpose is to make you as comfortable as possible so don't hesitate to use 'em if you need to.

653 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:16:56am

# 641 songbird

Ah, that's better. No cilantro ?

654 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:17:12am

#613 Miss Trixie...


I'm doing great. (-:
So thinking a spring are you... WOW.

Morning to you REALWEST...


O-darn have to go have a fire call.

C-ya.

655 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:17:36am

#650 jehu

What can we expect from Democrats? Easy. They are the horticulturalists for parasites. Their job will be to find new and creative ways to help the parasites of human society attach to more productive members.


Dare I say it?


The Islamic Beast rides the Gramscian Whore!

Bwahahaaa!

656 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:18:05am

Good morning, lizards.

657 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:18:18am

648 Babbazee

Geepers I found this

HIV gained a foothold in China largely due to unsanitary blood plasma buying schemes and tainted transfusions in hospitals. China has cracked down harshly on such schemes and declared last ...


That is really disgustingly sad.

658 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:18:27am

#644 {Miss Trixie} *smootch* back atcha sweetie. I'm doing ok this morning, thanks.
I gather you're pretty chipper this morning yourself,
no?

659 godfrey  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:18:29am

Goodmorning, lizards.

Reuters passes on religious affiliation numbers for the new Congress:

(Reuters) -- Roman Catholics are the largest single U.S. religious denomination among members of the new U.S. Congress which also includes two Buddhists and a Muslim.

A survey published by Americans for Religious Liberty finds Baptists the second most common faith, followed by Methodists, Presbyterians and Jews.

The breakdown for the 535 members of the 110th Congress being sworn in Thursday:

Catholic 155; Baptist 67; Methodist 61; Presbyterian 44; Jewish 43; Episcopal 37; Protestant nondenominational 26; Christian nondenominational 18; Lutheran 17; Mormon 15; United Church of Christ 7.

Eastern Orthodox 5; Christian Science 5; Assemblies of God 4; Unitarian Universalist 2; African Methodist Episcopal 2; Buddhists 2; Evangelical 2; Seventh Day Adventists 2; Christian Reformed 2; Disciples of Christ 2; Church of Christ 2; Congregational Baptist 1; Anglican 1.

Reorganized Mormon 1; Quaker 1; Church of God 1; Muslim 1; Evangelical Lutheran 1; Church of the Nazarene 1; Evangelical Methodist 1.

No affiliation 6.

FWIW.

660 galloping granny  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:19:24am
#645 EmeraldLakeEyes 1/4/2007 07:11AM PST

#632 Geepers

EmeraldLakeEyes (#616),

Do you have a link for that?


No. My SIL worked in the accounting department of health for a certain city selling the blood. She took it upon herself to research who owned the company that purchased it. Based in China.

Sounds fishy to me. Federal regs specify that blood is supposed to be tested for HIV and contaminated blood is supposed to be destroyed. It is burned with other medical waste in an incinerator.

661 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:19:56am

Babbazee

Wow. Sounds like more good news in Gaza.

{songbird} Morning, toots.

Skim off the scum.

That should be the number one item on the "to-do" list in Washington today.

662 haakondahl  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:20:08am

Hullo, everybody! Gave up looking for my 9VDC power supply for the 4-way KVM switch. In English, that means I'm taking a break from setting up my computer center, a.k.a. home office, a.k.a. NORAD Far East.

Gonna have a smoke.

663 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:20:12am

I'm proud to be an American today. Although I do not like a Democratic majority in Congress, I am glad I live in a nation in which the transfer of power takes place in peace and dignity.

664 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:20:28am

Cilantro is toxic waste...

665 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:20:48am

#648 BabbaZee

Geepers I found this

HIV gained a foothold in China largely due to unsanitary blood plasma buying schemes

That's what the officials say, because, just as in Russia, the gov't refuses to acknowledge there are any homosexuals or IV drug users in the country. Libya at least had the orginality of blaming Bulgarians and Palestianians.

666 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:21:17am

#654 Dustoff-507 - Morning back at you too, buddy - y'all be careful out there, please. If ya can, drop us a line when it's over to tell us what happended, ok?

667 mama winger  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:21:24am

#659 godfrey

FWIW.

Interesting, Thanks!

668 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:21:50am

#579 lawhawk

Thanks for those excellent links, lawhawk. What's happening in New Orleans is a scandal (so what else is new?). Maybe they won't have another storm for 40, 50, or 100 years. But maybe they'll have one in five years.

Here we'll be, the taxpayers, bailing them out
again.

669 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:22:17am

657 emerald

from their point of view... fewer people to feed.

Communism is designed to bring out the best in people.. but always ends up bringing out the worst.

670 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:22:36am

Iran Sobered Us Up on New Year’s
A message of nuclear proportions.
By Joel C. Rosenberg

The new year may not be so happy if Iranian leaders have their way. The Islamic messiah known as the “Twelfth Imam” or the “mahdi” may come to earth in 2007 and could be revealed to the world as early as the spring equinox, reports an official Iranian government news website. The Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB) website says the world is now in its “last days.” It claims that the mahdi will first appear in Mecca, and then Medina. He will conquer all of Arabia, Syria, Iraq, destroy Israel, and then set up a “global government” based in Iraq, interestingly enough, not Iran. Such Islamic eschatology is driving the Iranian regime and helps explains why Iran has no interest in helping the United States and European Union create peace in Iraq or the region, much less in ending its bid for nuclear weapons, the Iraq Study Group Report notwithstanding.

671 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:22:55am

#607 coz

MANGRUNT? ROFL!

{coz}

672 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:22:55am

#652 realwest
The only problem is they cause their own ancillary problems, which is why I have to try to stay off them as much as possible IMO
the Dr's would have me on them 24/7 if they had their way, but it is not wise, they damage your organs and I am already missing too many parts to spare any portions of what's left... ;~P

673 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:23:17am

660 galloping granny 1/4/2007 07:19AM PST

#645 EmeraldLakeEyes 1/4/2007 07:11AM PST
#632 Geepers

EmeraldLakeEyes (#616),

Do you have a link for that?


No. My SIL worked in the accounting department of health for a certain city selling the blood. She took it upon herself to research who owned the company that purchased it. Based in China.


Sounds fishy to me. Federal regs specify that blood is supposed to be tested for HIV and contaminated blood is supposed to be destroyed. It is burned with other medical waste in an incinerator.

That may be so. But, this state sold it as I said. SIL was very upset. That is why she researched it.

674 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:23:53am
No affiliation 6.

WE're DOOMED! ! ! !

675 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:24:36am

Morning Ward Cleaver.


#665 Kenneth
Bulgarians? LOL!

676 jehu  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:25:14am

Mandy 663

I'm proud to be an American today. Although I do not like a Democratic majority in Congress, I am glad I live in a nation in which the transfer of power takes place in peace and dignity.

Well, I kind of liked the transfer of power that took place when the British were whipped, or when Pharoah was drowned. Not real happy about peacefully handing over a sword to those sworn to slit my throat...all in a nice bloodless sort of way, of course.

677 NoSubmission  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:25:32am

ec marm, your blog just keeps getting better and better.

:)

678 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:25:35am

Sorry if this has been posted already:

Airport May Suspend Cabbies Who Refuse Fares

(AP) Minneapolis Officials at the Twin Cities Airport are considering penalties for cabbies who refuse to transport fares.

Some Muslim cabbies are refusing -- apparently for religious reasons -- to carry travelers who have alcohol with them or who have service dogs.

Airport officials are proposing suspending the airport licenses of cabbies who refuse fares for any reason, except for safety concerns.

A first offense would carry a 30-day license suspension. The second offense would mean a two-year revocation.

The full Metropolitan Airports Commission is expected to vote Jan. 16 on whether to hold public hearings on the proposal.

679 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:25:38am

#640 BabbaZee

I wish both sides the very best of luck!

680 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:25:44am

#659 godfrey - Good morning! Too bad they didn't name names with that list - anyone have any idea who the two Buddhists are?

681 wargammer2005  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:26:40am

here's one for us all...


Syrian nuke program.

[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

682 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:26:45am

realwest

I gather you're pretty chipper this morning yourself,
no?

When we have sunshine I just feel so much better. I don't care for the cold but winter is better when it's sunny.

According to Environment Canada, this winter is supposed to be extry mild so I'll take it! :D

{Lance} Morning, Sparky.

683 songbird  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:27:40am

#653 Mike C.

Add cilantro if you like :-D But taste it before you add the cilantro to take in the rich flavor.

I'm making a batch today, sans cilantro.

684 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:27:44am

#679 WriterMom
Ahahhahhaha Mazel all around.
L'CHAIM, MFers.

685 brenda  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:28:10am

#641 songbird

That looks fabulous -- I'll try it soon!

But I've never heard of Hatch chiles. Can you possibly translate for Mexifornia?

686 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:28:31am

Anyone heard anything about this?

Fidel Castro admitted to Spanish hospital

According to internet reports, the Cuban dictator is staying in a restricted wing of the Gregorio Maranon Hospital in Madrid.

He is said to have arrived on the same plane as the Spanish surgeon who flew to Cuba last week to treat him at the request of the island's authorities.

Too bad they didn't send him to a French military hospital.

687 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:28:34am

# 664 ctp

I take it Mexico is not your favorite vacation spot.

# 674 Geepers

Definitely.

688 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:28:53am

3 wood, goodbye_natalie, and anyone else who cares:

Here are the schedules for the next two years. They actually appear easier than in years past, and this certainly won't earn them any respect.

I'm not going to lay this on Charlie Weis, as the schedules are done several years out, but if he's going to stick around and not go to the NYG--the only other job I'm told he'd take--they need to upgrade. Look for him to bring in new defensive coaches and Lord knows, they need speed on defense.

OK, maybe some of those kids out there were recruited by Willingham, but in good conscience I can't blame him. Good coaching gets the most of out players. Look no further than Boise State, doing what they do with second-level talent.

2007 Notre Dame Football Schedule

Sept. 1 GEORGIA TECH
Sept. 8 at Penn State
Sept. 15 at Michigan
Sept. 22 MICHIGAN STATE
Sept. 29 at Purdue
Oct. 6 at UCLA
Oct. 13 BOSTON COLLEGE
Oct. 20 USC
Nov. 3 NAVY
Nov. 10 AIR FORCE
Nov. 17 DUKE
Nov. 24 at Stanford

2008 Notre Dame Football Schedule
Sept. 6 SAN DIEGO STATE
Sept. 13 MICHIGAN
Sept. 20 at Michigan State
Sept. 27 PURDUE
Oct. 4 STANFORD
Oct. 11 at North Carolina
Oct. 18 Open Date
Oct. 25 at Washington
Nov. 1 PITTSBURGH
Nov. 8 at Boston College
Nov. 15 at Navy (Baltimore)
Nov. 22 SYRACUSE
Nov. 29 at USC

One other thing. If you don't think they deserve a BCS game with two lossses, and I agree for the most part, don't blame them--blame the NCAA and BCS. They want ND because they bring in the fans to the host city and on television. It's all about the Benjamins ($$$).

689 jooly  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:29:37am

Pork is so integral to french cuisine. Can't the muslims serve their own poor? Of course, not. What do muslim charities do except collect $$ for terrorists?

690 ec marm  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:29:43am

#677 NoSubmission

ec marm, your blog just keeps getting better and better.:)

Thank you very much. I was named one of the 100 fastest growing by WordPress. Which pleased me until I saw that there were TWO muslim oriented blogs ahead of me. I did not see ONE conservative blog in the entire list. :~(

691 nonic  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:29:59am

Catholicism Top Faith in U.S. Congress

Roman Catholics are the largest single U.S. religious denomination among members of the new U.S. Congress which also includes two Buddhists and a Muslim.

A survey published by Americans for Religious Liberty finds Baptists the second most common faith, followed by Methodists, Presbyterians and Jews.

The breakdown for the 535 members of the 110th Congress being sworn in Thursday:

Catholic 155
Baptist 67
Methodist 61
Presbyterian 44
Jewish 43
Episcopal 37
Protestant nondenominational 26
Christian nondenominational 18
Lutheran 17
Mormon 15
United Church of Christ 7
Eastern Orthodox 5
Christian Science 5
Assemblies of God 4
Unitarian Universalist 2
African Methodist Episcopal 2
Buddhists 2
Evangelical 2
Seventh Day Adventists 2
Christian Reformed 2
Disciples of Christ 2
Church of Christ 2
Congregational Baptist 1
Anglican 1
Reorganized Mormon 1
Quaker 1
Church of God 1
Evangelical Lutheran 1
Church of the Nazarene 1
Evangelical Methodist 1
Muslim 1
No affiliation 6

692 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:30:01am

#670 Kenneth

The Islamic messiah known as the “Twelfth Imam” or the “mahdi” may come to earth in 2007 and could be revealed to the world as early as the spring equinox, reports an official Iranian government news website.

I knew it I knew it I knew it.
The world comes to its end and I haven't got the money for the TAILS I wanted.
I will look like a beggar.

I hate casual-style ends of worlds.

693 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:30:45am
After [the Twelfth Imam’s] uprising from Mecca all of Arabia will be submit to him and then other parts of the world as he marches upon Iraq and established his seat of global government in the city of Kufa. Then the Imam will send 10 thousand of his forces to the east and west to uproot the oppressors. At this time God will facilitate things for him and lands will come under his control one after the other...He will appear as a handsome young man, clad in neat clothes and exuding the fragrance of paradise. His face will glow with love and kindness for the human beings...He has a radiant forehead, black piercing eyes and a broad chest. He very much resembles his ancestor Prophet Mohammad. Heavenly light and justice accompany him. He will overcome enemies and oppressors with the help of God, and as per the promise of the Almighty the Mahdi will eradicate all corruption and injustice from the face of the earth and establish the global government of peace, justice and equity.
694 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:30:54am

676 jehu

Democrats are sworn to slit your throat? I must've missed that part of their platform.

695 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:31:04am

Forget Punishment
~~~

If you are thinking that G-d is out to punish you, that He will not save you from your trouble because you are undeserving,
Then you are not trusting Him.

Trust knows not a shade of doubt
that He will deliver.

A Daily Dose of Wisdom from the Rebbe
-words and condensation by Tzvi Freeman
Tevet 14, 5767 * January 4, 2007

696 redstateredneck  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:31:39am

Morning {All Y'all}

Songbird
Thanks for the recipe; I haven't had decent green chile since I lived in Denver back in the 70's!

697 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:31:49am

Hey Miss Trixie.

*grins*

feeling warmer today?

698 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:32:01am

#687 Mike C.

I take it Mexico is not your favorite vacation spot

Heh. Actually, I really like Mexican food, but I really dislike cilantro... I think I OCed on a friend's homemade salsa once...

Same with curry...

699 haakondahl  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:32:14am

Reading Ledeen. This can all be blown away with the ho-hum acknowledgement it will receive in the press. The media will admit that some Iranians were found in Iraq. Here's my Pre-emptive Jack Cafferty:

But after all, the two countries are neighbors, and it would be unusual indeed if there were no Iranians in Iraq. Some Republican lawmakers have decided that this is a big deal, and that somehow this means we will now have to go to war against Iran. Now nobody's saying that, but wake up, boys and girls--this is how the administration is trying to prepare you for the next elective war. Do you want your sons and brothers to go die in Iran, because the administration can't figure out how to stop getting them killed in Iraq?


Ledeen is right to point out that the war in Iraq will not produce decent results until regime change in Iran. But that will not happen until regime change in Congress.

Weer Scroood!

700 Mike C.  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:32:37am

# 683 songbird

Thanks for the tip. I'll play with it some when I get the chance. Can't do it tonight, as there's a pork loin roast on the schedule.

701 NoSubmission  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:33:57am

#690 ec marm

Excellent! I suggest you get a sitemeter so you can see how many people are viewing you.
Its really interesting to see how many people all over world watch.

702 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:34:13am

#698 christheprofessor

I
HATE
Curry

the smell is enough to make me scream

703 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:34:34am

#693 Kenneth

He has a radiant forehead, black piercing eyes and a broad chest

I am the Twelfth ?

Oh my...

704 mama winger  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:34:40am

Last night someone here, I forget who it was, posted a link to a quote from "The American Sphinx", a biography of Thomas Jefferson. The link made the historical claim that Jefferson had come into possession of a Koran while attempting to understand the North African slave trade. The link showed that the slavers used the Koran to justify their slaving.

I posted this link and the explanation at the DNC blog. This is one of the responses I received:

There are those who will frequent this site and others in an attempt to persuade the good people of America into racism. They will manipulate data and historical records in an attempt to make it appear as though Muslims represent some long standing form of evil throughout the world. We will remain grounded in reality, a reality in which we recognize that all races on this planet are capable of evil and yet none are evil as a whole. I encourage you to defend truth, no matter how inconvenient, for in the end it will prevail.

Posted by Marine on January 4, 2007 at 09:20 AM


Good luck with this Democratic regime.

705 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:34:49am

Doesn't look like it's ever going to be too difficult.

At least they won't be playing Army or the Flyboys.

Potential opponents through 2016

706 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:35:50am

Good morning Babs. How you doin'?

707 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:36:22am

Yesterday Geepers aksed how the Israel trip was, here is my reply to him and the rest of LGF:

The tradition of the early Zionists was visitors returning from the Land would report back and what they saw of the people, the Land and hope for the future.

In my 10 days in Israel, I was filled with overwhelming hope and optimism for the future for all the people residing between the Jordan River and the sea. Despite a debilitating war, a crook running the government, the Iranian threat, Hamas and Hezbollah, Israel is doing very carry well.

First the people. From Eastern Orthodox priests and nuns to 150 varieties of Hasidic Jews and then covering all manner of secular Israelis and Muslims, this variegated mishmash of humanity works. The three great religions, shoehorned into the relatively small walls of Jerusalem are functioning fairly well, the shops of the streets are open and the streets of the old city are safe, the cities are cleaner and more livable in every respect, except automobile traffic.

Most Israelis I met were optimistic about the long-term future of the state; they are worried by Iranian threats but they view the Palestinians as pretty much under control. While I did not speak with any security experts, it was very clear to me that this special with respect to the West Bank, Israel is completely shut down the Palestinian terror apparatus. The Palestinians have no ability whatsoever to mount attacks and certainly cannot even dream of attempting the kinds of serial terror attacks that made 2000-02 such a nightmare. The bulk of Israelis have washed their hands of the Palestinian problem, to give the Palestinian cause, after the Gaza, the Palestinians have shown themselves utterly incapable self-governance and completely unwilling to do the slightest thing to improve quality its life for their people.

With the construction of the fence and the cutting off of Gaza, Israel is able to control the situation. Israel’s ability to maintain the current status quo indefinitely should not be questioned. Moreover, given Palestinian behavior, anarchy, civil war and kidnappings, there is 0 inducements for Israel to change anything until the Palestinians demonstrate the ability to deliver on any of their promises regarding peace and security. While, I've noted that the West Bank is under control; it is the way in which Israel does it that I'm particularly proud. Any state must first be concerned with the safety of its own citizens; Israel's occupation of the West Bank has undergone a metamorphosis that imposes 100% prevention while affording Palestinians as much mobility with as little intrusion as possible. The recent relaxation of controls on the West Bank will be a test case to see if the West Bank Palestinians are more interested in an a better quality of life or Jewish blood.

In terms of land, there is good and there's bad. While Israel has finally brought tremendous focus to the ecological challenges created by the sudden addition of 8 million people to the region, there is a long way go in everything from litter control to the water system, to air pollution in the larger cities. Israel has the largest desalinization efforts of any country in the world and will be the first country in human history to get more than 10% of its water supply from the ocean. In terms of development land, when I recall the barren hills of 1971 and see cities and forests and fields arising from former wasteland, I am filled with pride and of the miracle of the modern state, my Israel.

708 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:36:27am

#693 Kenneth

...He will appear as a handsome young man, clad in neat clothes and exuding the fragrance of paradise.

I knew it Tom Cruise is the 12 imam AKA the Mahdi

709 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:36:27am

#669 LanceKates

Happy New Year to you, Lance.

Communism is designed to bring out the best in people.. but always ends up bringing out the worst.

"they are creating a system so perfect, nobody will need to be moral anymore" T.S. Eliot

710 nonic  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:36:31am

#659 godfrey

Sorry. I didn't see your post before I repeated it at 691. :-)

711 soccerdad  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:36:55am

OT -- oh boy...I know I'm coming late to this party...but just read the lead on Drudge about speaker Pelosi. The REAL scary part? She's now third in line for the Presidency. sigh. what a depressing thought.

712 ec marm  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:37:08am

#692 Poitiers-Lepanto
Not sure if you saw how I took your democracy quote and converted it to picture. I just wanted to thank you again. (Second image down) BTW:First image not work friendly, even though I "adjusted it" quite a bit.

713 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:37:16am

The only area of concern that I have for his room at this time, is deterrence. This summer's and inconclusive for war is a guaranteed invitation for future conflict. Hezbollah and Hamas did not get the memo that Israel could have used far more military force than she did. The ancient Romans understood how to defeat an enemy. At some point, is you force the enemies and their leaders to their knees. Sometimes the only way to show that you've won is to shove the defeated into the dirt on national television. We cannot treat as equal those will not afford to the least amount of respect to us. The Palestinian leadership is completely divorced from reality. There is no example yet of any victory accomplished by their militancy. While it is not impossible for a geographically isolated and militarily weak enemy to defeat a better situated in better armed opponent, in Israel’s case, her troops are better trained, armed, backed with state-of-the-art equipment and combat methods, the likelihood of their being defeated by a force devoid of air cover, artillery and tank support is just zero.

And that leaves the Islamic Republic of Iran as the only existential enemy of the State of Israel. That there is a need to do something about a group of terror sponsoring religious lunatics seeking nuclear weapons cannot be argued. But I remain unconvinced that either President Bush or the Israeli Prime Minister are prepared to what it takes to stop them. The people in charge of Iran are spending billions of dollars sponsoring terror and supporting every single enemy of freedom, Israel and the United States. This is been the policy since Khomeini. They will only stop when their greater ambitions are stomped into dust.

So it is that a report that things are good in the Land, the People are thriving and the children and grandchildren of the Zionist dream are free with a very bright future if together we remain strong, united and wise

714 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:37:42am

#691 nonic

I'd venture that the majority of those "Catholics" are cafeteria Catholics. Pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro fetal stem cell research, etc. So, not true Catholics.

715 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:37:50am

#693 Kenneth

will eradicate all corruption and injustice from the face of the earth and establish the global government of peace, justice and equity

Oh, another one of those...
C'mon, in line with Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro and Chavez...


No wonder they call him the Twelfth.

I called him the Redundant, some time ago.

716 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:39:20am

But I love Tim Curry.

717 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:40:32am

#702 BZ

Same here. Just disgusting stuff...

718 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:40:41am

#708 Just_A_Grunt

So it was Tom Cruise that got the stick the other night, in the lounge? Wow.

719 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:40:45am

#706 Ward Cleaver
I live to tell the tale mah brother

720 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:41:21am

#712 EC Marm

Thank you !
I had missed it !

But you shouldn't thank me: the idea, after such a good job, is entirely yours.


/I still prefer the FIRST image up. Sorry !

:-)

721 Beagle  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:41:38am

#704 mama winger

Adam Gadahn, John Walker, Keith Ellison, John Allen Mohammed, Lee Malvo, Osama Bin Laden, Jose Padilla, and Abu Sayyaf --> the Muslim Race.

It's funny how the Donks will go on and on about "neocons" but will defend the most aggressive imperialist ideology to come around since the fall of the western Roman Empire: Islam.

Obviously speaking ill of "neocons" is racism, according to them.

722 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:42:05am

#707 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
Thank you for your posts and Happy New Year

723 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:42:06am

Someone sees a red flag at the Pentagon:

Pentagon Advisor Doubts Wisdom of US Militarys Recruiting Muslims

(AgapePress) - Retired Lieutenant Colonel Bob Maginnis, a Pentagon advisor and national defense expert, believes U.S. military officials are making a radical mistake by trying to make America's armed services more attractive to Muslims.

The Pentagon has lately gone out of its way to attract Muslims into the U.S. military, citing the need for officers and troops who can speak Arabic and understand Islamic culture. And recently, Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England said that Muslims and the Islamic religion are totally compatible with Western values.

However, Maginnis disagrees with that assessment. In fact, he contends, "Someone who's an adherent to the teaching of the Koran and then abides by what it says, that person -- as far as I can understand -- is incompatible with Western culture."

724 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:42:10am

#702 Babs

I like chicken divan, which has just a little curry in it.

725 christheprofessor  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:42:46am

#708 Just-A-Grunt

I knew it Tom Cruise is the 12 imam AKA the Mahdi

I always thought TC was the 12th Thetan of Scientology...

726 soccerdad  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:43:10am

#712 EC marm -- that is a cool website. Is that your blog?

727 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:43:20am

709 Kenneth

Happy New year!

and, if we could see it back then, why don't enough see it now?

728 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:43:32am

#715 Poitiers-Lepanto

Oh, another one of those...
C'mon, in line with Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro and Chavez...

The narcissistic projection of a death-cult obsession: my perfect super-daddy will come and make all the bad things go away. Violently.

729 moshe28  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:43:59am

My apologies to Charles, I did not realize that is shouldnt post phone numbers but only links. it wont happen again.

Here is the link then instead


[Link: nfonss.blogspot.com...]


moshe

730 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:44:04am

#707 Ayatollah Ghilmeini - AG - another excellent post in a long string of great posts! What's your impression of Israel vis a vis Iran? Does the "average" Israeli worry over Iran, or do they see it as a more distant threat?
And, thanks again for a great and informative post.

731 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:44:55am

#728 Kenneth 1/4/2007 07:43AM PST


The narcissistic projection of a death-cult obsession: my perfect super-daddy will come and make all the bad things go away. Violently.

You got it!

732 storagemanager  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:44:58am
Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad further added that the vigilant people residing in Khuzestan province will not allow aliens to hatch conspiracies.

Making reference to some attempts made by the US and Britain to sow seeds of discord in Khuzestan province of Iran, President Ahmadinejad stated that the people, the vigilant Arabs and tribes residing in this region will not allow the aliens to hatch conspiracies in the province.

In a meeting with the elites of Khuzestan province last night also, president Ahmadinejad stated: "I am confident that very soon we will witness collapse of the Zionist regime, this corrupt element in the region".


[Link: www.farsnews.com...]

733 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:45:02am

#716 Babs

What about this Tim Curry?

734 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:45:08am

Ayatollah Ghilmeini (#707),

Terribly interesting. Thanks.

So what did they ask you as an American, anything, or are are they just too common?

735 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:45:19am

#718 Ward Cleaver

ROFLMAO!

736 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:45:45am

#729 moshe28

Todah, Moshe

737 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:45:49am

Ok... So i've been trying to calculate my BMI.

I've found four different sites to do it, and they all ask for the same BASIC information (height, gender, weight, neck/waist size)

but their answers range from 36% to 48%

there's gotta be an accurate way of doing this.

738 nonic  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:46:02am

#714 Ward

You're probably right. Over in the Senate, both Kennedy and Kerry are putative Catholics.

I wonder how Hillary lists herself.

739 songbird  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:46:26am

#685 Brenda

You can use hot green chiles from the grocer's. Ask the produce person to direct you to the chiles with the heat level you prefer. To roast them you can put them under the broiler ( turn them to roast all sides ) until the skins get blistered and almost blackened. We roasted our chiles over a wood fire in our Barbecue grill last summer. I have a gas range so if I need to do one or two I can roast them easily on the top of the stove. The skin should slip right off if they are roasted enough. Peel and chop those for the stew.

#696 redstateredneck

Enjoy, this is literally a comforting and "heartwarming" stew

#700 Mike C.

Use the leftover pork loin in the stew recipe (if there's any left) and adjust the amount of ingredients. Some people fry the pork and onions before they boil the meat, so using cooked meat is not a problem.

740 ec marm  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:46:34am

#726 soccerdad

#712 EC marm -- that is a cool website. Is that your blog?

Yup, exactly one week old. I'm beginning to have more aliases then I can keep track of.

741 haakondahl  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:46:38am

#669 LanceKates

Reminds me of the Navy. It used to be said that the Navy was "a system designed by geniuses to be operated by morons." Which is a pretty smart way to design a system. Let's face it--some servicemen are more swift than others, but all must carry out their duties.
Now, there is a plague of new programs emanating from [xxx] trying to burnish their careers and write a Master's or Doctoral thesis at the same time, but nobody ever does away with the old programs. That would place real responsibility for success upon the designers of the new program. Instead, you just keep getting saddled with more and different programs, often contradictory, designed to cure some abstract problem, but with concrete damage to your ability to get anything done. So it seems the Navy has become "a system designed by morons to be operated by geniuses."

742 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:46:49am

#733 Ward Cleaver

Never heard of him ~ did I miss something?

743 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:48:27am

#693 Kenneth

ROFL. That looks like that Arab Sugar Daddy Soft Porn that the late Saddam Hussein used to write.

I NEVER GET TIRED OF SAYING THAT: the LATE dictator, Saddam Hussein.

744 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:49:26am

#686 geepers:

Let's assume that the report is accurate (who really knows since the Cubans aren't exactly open with that sort of thing). If true, so much for the vaunted Cuban health care system that Castro would apparently be whisked off from the already restricted to the top-thugs in charge-hospital to one in Spain.

What does that tell you about the kind of health care the rest of the country gets if the leaders have to go out of the country for proper care. And this is the socialized health care system that provides everyone with the same level of care: crappy.

#713 AG:
Nice report. I note a whiff of optimism, but that flies in the face of the reports that show no confidence in the Israeli government. What it does suggest is that the Israelis are confident in the IDF to keep them secure when push comes to shove (especially if the shove means getting the political hacks out of the way).

745 Kerfuffle  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:49:51am

#693 Kenneth

He has a radiant forehead, black piercing eyes and a broad chest. He very much resembles his ancestor Prophet Mohammad.

But wait... I thought that ole Mo, Pork Be Upon Him, was a man of Jabba-like proprotions (the real reason no one is allowed to draw/paint him)? So the Mahdi will look like Michael Moore?

/confused

746 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:50:51am

A JERUSALEM INSIGHT: THE STONE
Yossi Zur

The ancient Jewish custom of placing a stone on the grave of a deceased loved one goes back to the days of the Bible;" And Jacob set up a stone monument upon her grave; the same is the monument of Rachel's grave unto this day."(Genesis 35:20). It has since become the custom to leave something of permanence at the grave both as an act that declares that the loved one will always be remembered and to declare once more that the soul lives on forever. It is with these thoughts we present the letter of Yosi Tzur and his idea of memorializing his murdered son's memory. As nothing is really coincidental the family name means rock as well.

Mail Asaf a stone!

On March 5th 2003 Asaf, a young high school boy was on his way back
from school. A suicide murderer that exploded on Asaf's bus killed him
and sixteen other innocent men, women and children.

Asaf was almost seventeen years old and he is my son.

This year on April 27th we will remember Asaf's 21stbirthday.

As every Israeli young man does, Asaf would have finished his military service and would have gone on a trip to see the world either to south America, the far east, India or maybe Australia and New Zealand.

Ever since Asaf died whenever I go on trips inside Israel or travel abroad I bring back a stone with me.
From the Dead Sea in the south, from the sea of Galilee in the north from every creek and spring in Israel, Shale from Ein Gedi, basalt from the Golan heights, many pebbles I laid at Asaf's rest place in the recent years.

When I go abroad I look for a stone from a nice place, from a park or from a famous site. I brought back a stone from lake Winnipesaukee in New Hampshire, from lake Ontario in Canada, from the Niagra falls, new York's Central park, Helsinki, London and many other places.

With each stone I lay on Asaf's tombstone I fill I bring the world to him, I feel as if I took Aaaf with me and brought the experience of that place to him.

It is an old Jewish custom to lay a stone at ones grave when coming to visit. The reason for that custom is to show one is remembered, to come and visit your dear ones and see and know that they are remembered by people
that visit and lay a stone at their grave.

I am sending this letter in hope it will go around the world and reach many many people. I ask each one of you receiving this letter to mail me a stone from wherever you live.

Asaf may not be able to go and travel the world, So this way I will bring the world to him for his 21st birthday on April 27th this year.

Each one of you getting this letter pick a stone from the place you live in , may it be a small stone, a big stone, a round or a flat stone, put it in an envelope and mail it to me (address at link)

I will lay all the stones received at Asaf's grave.


I will also update the places from which stones were sent on
Asaf's memorial web site. At: [Link: www.blondi.co.il...]

Please forward this letter to all your email contacts in as
many countries as possible.

Thanks in advance

Yossi Zur, Asaf's father

747 jamil hussein  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:51:03am

...

748 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:51:46am

#742 Babs

He's the longtime Tarrant County (Fort Worth) District Attorney. His picture shows him wearing slacks, but he used to wear jeans at the courthouse. I'm sure he still wears his cowboy boots.

749 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:51:47am

#728 Kenneth

my perfect super-daddy will come and make all the bad things go away. Violently.

Perfect diagnosis.
The ". Violently." is the structuring part indeed.
This reveals a cult of fear, a very primitive stage of psychological dynamics.

You say "projection" and that's exact: the ego unable of independence projects itself as a super-power that will "free" all the poor bastards like the ego projecting it.

750 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:52:17am

#744 lawhawk

I was watching Israeli TV and there were a few very interesting things. One was a survey done by the Dahaf institute for the Knesset TV channel. About 70% of Israelis are not happy with Olmert. Plus, his secretary is now under suspicion of arranging bribes and taking kickbacks to and from the Tax Authorities on behalf of Olmert cronies.

Also-Dan Halutz had a press conference where he admitted "some" mistakes and claimed that he has not been asked to leave the position. Seems to me that it is brewing, though...

751 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:52:40am

745 Kerfurffle

"So the Mahdi will look like Michael Moore?"

so, when he comes after us, we can just walk away and still be able to out maneuver him?

752 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:53:00am

Hey, Jamil Hussein's here! Grab him before he gets away!

753 haakondahl  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:55:32am

#738 nonic

I wonder how Hillary lists herself.

With a stiff-bristle brush.

754 funkyfantom  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:55:50am
#197 pro-Bush Canuck

#189 marjoriemoon

Don't underestimate the French racist fascists. They're against Muslims all right, they're also equally if not more against Jews, blacks, Chinese--anyone who isn't a white Frenchman.

We don't have these groups over here much any more, but they are virulently active in Europe.

LGF should NOT be aligning itself in any way, shape or form with despicable neo-Nazis like the SDF.

What you are saying, although well-intentioned, comes off as kind of naive and clueless.

LePen and "white nationalist" groups are not the ones making life miserable for the small remnant of France's Jewish community. But any Jew in France with a yalmulke on his head has a very real chance of being gang-stomped by Islamic thugs.

As a matter of fact, plenty of people of all races and creeds would benefit if these groups
actually materialized to confront violent Islamic gangs who operate all over France with impunity.

But the groups you are so concerned about really don't seem to do much of anything, at least as far as I can see from reading the media.

I don't recall reading any newspaper articles about LePen supporters or even so-called neo-Nazi groups in France beating up Chinese people, either.

Islamic violence statistically dwarfs right-wing violence in France by such a large margin as to make your concerns look ridiculous.

755 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:55:55am

OT- New 6Z GFS says that between midnight and 6 am local, 1 inch of snow will fall in Northern and Western suburbs of Houston on January 18, 2007

756 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:56:05am

All I can say is Heh!tm to finding this tidbit on Hot Air.

You know that the HRW and usual suspects are grasping at straws when the use of psionics and sorcery might better explain the damage alleged to those ambulances that Zombie has taken quite a bit of time analyzing.

757 jehu  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:56:48am

Mandy

676 jehu

Democrats are sworn to slit your throat? I must've missed that part of their platform.

Apparently you miss a lot. Someone does not have to dress up in military fatigues and point a gun at my head to be an enemy. If all their rhetoric paints me (A white, Christian, hetrosexual male) as a target, food group, and a racist-bigot to be eradicated, guess I can consider them an enemy (metaphorically speaking). Now back to your nostrums and platitudes of what a wonderful peaceful democracy we live in.

758 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:57:01am
He has a radiant forehead,

See, he should have listened to his advisers and used make up.

759 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:57:20am

Same GFS says that while Northern suburbs get snow January 13th, New York City will have no accumulating snow next 2 weeks.

760 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:57:30am

#741 haakondahl

I remember back in the day when the Army put out comic books for soldiers to illustrate how to do such things as preventive maintenance on their equipment. Not illustrated manuals.
Actual comic books.

761 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:58:07am

#748 Ward Cleaver
Sounds like my kind of guy

762 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:58:45am

#751 Lance

Just drop Big Macs. That'll slow him down.

763 haakondahl  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 5:59:59am

#752 Ward Cleaver

Hey, Jamil Hussein's here! Grab him before he gets away!

Hmmm, that's funny--the IP address is registered to the Associated Press...

764 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:00:17am

#761 Babs

He's a good guy. Check out some of the recent convictions his office has gotten, in the news headlines.

765 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:00:24am

757 jehu

Bite me.

766 storagemanager  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:00:25am
693 Kenneth 1/4/2007 07:30AM PST

After [the Twelfth Imam’s] uprising from Mecca all of Arabia will be submit to him and then other parts of the world as he marches upon Iraq and established his seat of global government in the city of Kufa. Then the Imam will send 10 thousand of his forces to the east and west to uproot the oppressors. At this time God will facilitate things for him and lands will come under his control one after the other...He will appear as a handsome young man, clad in neat clothes and exuding the fragrance of paradise. His face will glow with love and kindness for the human beings...He has a radiant forehead, black piercing eyes and a broad chest. He very much resembles his ancestor Prophet Mohammad. Heavenly light and justice accompany him. He will overcome enemies and oppressors with the help of God, and as per the promise of the Almighty the Mahdi will eradicate all corruption and injustice from the face of the earth and establish the global government of peace, justice and equity

Just like the ANTICHRIST in the Bible.

767 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:00:57am

760 hous

now comic books show women with oversized boobs wearing undersized 'uniforms' (which no real person would ever wear into battle) and use sex instead of storyline.

I remember getting this comic when I was in high school that was in the fashion of the X-men, and smack dab in the middle is a lesbian sex scene...

that whole page could have been removed and not one bit of story would have been affected.

768 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:01:10am

Mahdi scenario speculation:

Ahmadinjad is promising "great news' before the end of the year (Iranian year end is march 20th.) They believe he will appear first in Meccca, then in Medina. The Hajj is currently underway and Saudi authorities are worried about Iranian agents causing mayhem and/or a terror attack.

Might the Iranians attempt to stage the "return of the Mahdi" soon, before the Hajj ends some time this week? One can only hope...

769 DesertSage  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:01:17am

Zombie is a big hit with the Farkers, they've been debating his Concourse of Hypocrisy all night.

770 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:01:27am

762 Ward

LOL... now that's wrong... lol.

771 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:02:13am
772 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:02:24am

MORE PORK SOUP FOR THE BEHEADISTS:

FROM DEBKA:

January 4, 2007, 9:01 AM (GMT+02:00)

The US president has decided to shift John Negroponte out of the job of National Intelligence Director after 20 months and appoint him deputy secretary of state, as weighty backup for Condoleezza Rice. The USS John C. Stennis strike group will this month join the USS Dwight Eisenhower aircraft carrier group and USS Boxer strike force in the Persian Gulf “as a warning to Syria and Iran” in face of acts seen as provocative.

DEBKAfile’s military experts see in the new deployment evidence that President George W. Bush has rejected the key Baker-Hamilton Iraq Study Group’s recommendation to engage Iran and Syria for an exit strategy on Iraq.

773 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:02:32am

lawhawk (#744),

And if Zapatero got sick, he'd be flying to America.

774 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:02:54am

765 Mandy

not worth it on your part.

775 Kerfuffle  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:03:09am

Lance, Ward

You may be able to outmaneuver him (A BLT be upon him), but not his minions carrying the black banners... the Kos Kiddies and Mama Sheehan!

776 Chyron  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:04:02am

Has anyone ever just stopped and thought about this? You have a benevolent God. He hands down his commands to his people, and apparently, well... pork is just a hell-worthy offense. You can eat beef, and technically people, but that pork...boy. Starving in the street? Too bad, says your benevolent God. Better to starve in this life, than be condemned in the next.

Amiright?

777 storagemanager  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:04:57am
Might the Iranians attempt to stage the "return of the Mahdi" soon, before the Hajj ends some time this week? One can only hope...

I worry about our troops being hit with a dirty bomb or worst...

After [the Twelfth Imam’s] uprising from Mecca all of Arabia will be submit to him and then other parts of the world as he marches upon Iraq and established his seat of global government in the city of Kufa
778 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:05:07am

766 store

except the place, timing, kingdom and situation are different.

though, yes, the antichrist is supposed to be charismatic.

though I wouldn't call any feelings coming from the antichrist to be lore... more like... hate.

779 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:05:18am
DEBKAfile’s military experts see in the new deployment evidence that President George W. Bush has rejected the key Baker-Hamilton Iraq Study Group’s recommendation to engage Iran and Syria for an exit strategy on Iraq

Oh please... let DEBKA be right for once.

780 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:05:25am

lore should be love.

781 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:06:07am

#745 Kerfuffle


He has a radiant forehead, black piercing eyes and a broad chest. He very much resembles his ancestor Prophet Mohammad.

But wait... I thought that ole Mo, Pork Be Upon Him, was a man of Jabba-like proprotions (the real reason no one is allowed to draw/paint him)? So the Mahdi will look like Michael Moore?

Well, Michael Moore does have a broad, full chest (C-cups, I think) & I've seen his forehead glow from sweat & broken capillaries, so yeah, the 12th imam could look like him!

782 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:06:23am

#769 DesertSage
Someone on that thread has a nice pic of a hummer. I hope the send it in.

783 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:06:37am

#775 Kerfuffle

I'll bet Mama Moonbat loves banana pudding (with extra whipped cream).

784 maddogg  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:06:57am

#618 BabbaZee

Thanks dear, and all the best of health and fortune to you and yours :)

785 Kerfuffle  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:07:28am

#766 storemanager

I still think jimmytheclaw's post on this is excellent ... regarding the Mahdi err Antichrist.

786 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:07:55am

775 Kerfuffle

nah, you just point in the distance and say "My, isn't that a transgendered homosexual couple having their civil rights trampled by having to choose between the "Mens" and "Ladies" bathroom?" and they all go running.

787 storagemanager  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:08:07am

71 BabbaZee 1/4/2007 08:02AM PST ...Right on...Walid Shoebat why I left Jihad...He gets it.

788 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:08:11am

#772 Poitiers-Lepanto

The US president has decided to shift John Negroponte out of the job of National Intelligence Director after 20 months and appoint him deputy secretary of state, as weighty backup for Condoleezza Rice. The USS John C. Stennis strike group will this month join the USS Dwight Eisenhower aircraft carrier group and USS Boxer strike force in the Persian Gulf “as a warning to Syria and Iran” in face of acts seen as provocative.

Somebody speculated that Negroponte is being groomed to replace Rice as Sec of State, when Cheney steps down as VP and Rice is appointed to replace him.

789 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:08:13am

#774 LanceKates

I know...I know... I felt a bit foolish when I hit the submit button. *sigh*

790 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:09:11am

AND MORE PORK SOUP FOR THE BEHEADISTS:

FROM THE JERUSALEM POST

Israelis own 10 percent of the privately owned area on the moon, according to Tom Wegner, a spokesman for Crazyshop, a company that sells plots of moon land to private individuals in Israel.
About 10,000 Israelis have purchased moon property since it became available in 2000. Of the 10 million acres sold worldwide, 1 million are owned by residents of Israel, Wegner said Wednesday.

Now Dhimmi Carter has to write another book...

791 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:09:11am

Did anybody else hear the moonbat from World Can't Wait, that Hugh Hewitt had on yesterday? She was completely full of crap, saying things like "the women of Afghanistan are worse off today than five years ago".

She also wouldn't answer alot of his questions directly.

792 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:09:14am

776 Chryon

No, we can't eat people either.

793 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:09:44am
794 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:10:34am

#767 lanceKates

That explains why they are so popular.
Alas, the Army did not put scantily clad soldiers in their comic books.
If they did, I might have actaully read them!

795 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:10:38am

#788 Kenneth

and Rice is appointed to replace him.

WOW ! THE FIRST PALESTINIAN VP of AMERICA !

796 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:10:56am

#773 Geepers - Yeah and our State Department would let him in, too.
How you doing today?

797 storagemanager  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:10:57am

Kerf

uffle 1/4/2007 08:07AM PST

#766 storemanager

Great site [Link: answering-islam.org...]

798 DesertSage  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:11:18am

#782 Killgore Trout

Did you see the picture of the VW Bus, with the bumper sticker that said: "I beat up five Hippies and all I got was this stupid Bus".

799 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:11:27am

789 Mandy

just think of it like this:

there are better things to waste time on...

watching paint dry...
watching work pike up...
watching a fan's blades turn...
root canal...

800 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:11:34am

#787 storagemanager
Walid is very, very righteous.

801 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:11:51am

boy, didn't get much sleep and it shows.

pike should be pile

802 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:12:14am
803 Kerfuffle  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:12:39am

#786 LanceKates

Heh, sounds like a job for *cheesy 70's music* ACLU man! Dum da da DA!

BD_VM, Ward, sheesh the Michael Moore, Sheehan and food references... so close to lunch... /wretch Bah!

804 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:12:40am
WOW ! THE FIRST PALESTINIAN VP of AMERICA !


re-run

805 dll2000  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:13:00am

I was reading an article about a British scandal involving a Ballerina and her dance company.

The scandal is that she belongs to the BNP; a British Right political party about which I know little. But, that is not the point of this posting. I'm reading the article and I see that the dance company is being threatened with non-compliance with something called the Race Relations (Amendment) Act 2000. From what I have read, the Act imposes an affirmative duty on all public entities and any entity that takes public money to promote good race relations (whatever that means). They have created a bureacracy to enforce the Act.

Apparently, Britian has gone so far of the deep end that they have passed one of the most foolish laws I have ever seen in the name of political correctness. Hmmm, no potential for abuse here.

Idiots.

806 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:13:38am

#799 LanceKates

I need to work on Render's technique of "GAZE."

807 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:14:08am

#772 Poitiers-Lepanto - That's very interesting (especially to me because I didn't know that the Boxer group was already there) was Debka your source for that information?

808 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:14:35am

794 hous

heh, that's why i stopped reading them.

I liked stories, and there are far too few of them.

most are either so involved that if you haven't been reading for years, you're instantly lost, others have stories that are so predictable that it isn't worth it, and the rest were drawn by horny men and written by 12 year olds.

(I sometimes get bitter by trash that is passed off as quality work, because it is popular for an unimportant reason.)

809 Muadib  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:15:03am

#685 brenda

Never heard of Hatch chiles?

The best green chile from the Mesilla Valley in Southern New Mexico. Green Gold from a desert oasis. I love the stuff!

810 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:15:06am

If you have a blog, do you exist? It's official. We have a Jamil Hussein sighting. Since this is the Internet, you've got to believe it. /I left my functioning neurons in another meat sack.

Then again, Darth Vader had a blog too (and I think he's thinking it's time to crush a few more tracheas as well).

811 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:15:15am

Mornin' realwest.

It's a beautiful March day here in central Ohio.

812 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:15:19am

#795 Poitiers-Lepanto

LOL! ...when it all comes down to the crunch, it's all about the domestic politics of getting elected. Condi is the choice of the Bushies.

813 shug  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:15:26am

I was just listening to one of my favorite Michael Savage shows from a few years ago ( I record them on replayradio.com ) and I am cracking up at a chant he did...

Me Immigrant
You racist
I sue
ACLU

that's all you need to know

814 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:16:08am

#798 DesertSage

Did you see the picture of the VW Bus, with the bumper sticker that said: "I beat up five Hippies and all I got was this stupid Bus".

Sage, I wanna see that picture. Linky?

815 HeatherRadish  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:16:35am

#757 jehu

The enemy isn't someone you hate, the enemy is someone who hates you.

816 jehu  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:16:43am

Lance 799

789 Mandy

just think of it like this:

there are better things to waste time on...

watching paint dry...
watching work pike up...
watching a fan's blades turn...
root canal...

Or reading the endless girly-gossip coffee klatch chat of Lancekates, like having your head in a vice and forced to watch the VIEW. You have something to say to me say it direct, none of this sidebar with Mandy "Bite Me" Manners

817 Greg  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:17:02am

Can we give an aerosol version of porkie soup via the air to the surrounding suburbs of Paris?

/channeling Soup Nazi

No soup for you kaffir dog!

818 storagemanager  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:18:18am
9"This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. 11The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.

Gen 10:10 the seven cities of Nimrod...Hills in the Bible mean citys...The area is all Muslim now...The ANTICHRIST army is Islam.

819 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:19:16am
He has a radiant forehead, black piercing eyes and a broad chest. He very much resembles his ancestor Prophet Mohammad.

He was white and a red-head.

820 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:19:19am

Next up in Iraq

At least they are waiting until after the holidays'.

821 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:19:36am

803 Kerfuffle

ACLU WOman, thank you very much!

no white men needed, they are the evil oppressors!

ACLU WOman wears a gender nutral business suit and has religious symbols around his/her/its neck from every religous group except for those associated with Judeo-Christian thought.

ACLU WOman's sidekick is the siamese twin Jessie Jackon/Al Sharpton, who shouts out "End Racism, Support Rainbow Coalation against white men!"

ACLU WOman's main weapon? a dart throwing unit that feminizes men and butches out women.

822 Kerfuffle  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:19:50am

You can tell it's about time for Charles to wake up and feed us because the flame wars are starting in the dead thread.

823 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:19:53am

#798 DesertSage
HA!

824 BabbaZee  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:20:02am

Oyshkabibble.

I dont know whether
to laugh
or cry...
so I think I'll just take a nap.

Wake me up when there's live threads.

825 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:20:20am

#806 MandyManners - Don't we all?! How are you doing today?

826 DesertSage  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:20:29am

#814 Ward Cleaver

You have to scroll down through the comments.

[Link: forums.fark.com...]

827 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:20:37am

806 Mandy

I forget who first posted it, but I just type "Bah"

here's the reference.

828 loppyd  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:20:53am

Good Morning, All!


MMM...pork.

829 Kerfuffle  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:21:10am

#821 LanceKates

LOL, duly noted and chastised. Heh.

830 Cosmic X  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:21:41am
831 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:21:43am

*yawns at jehu's 816*

bah.

832 mama winger  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:22:36am
833 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:23:19am

#822 Kerfuffle

I apologize for being nosy, but how is your Baby doing ?

I hope everything is going well and you'll get to the next check without problems.

834 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:23:56am

829 Kurfuffle

heh. its ok, I had an advantage growing up:

I worked in the liberal part of minneapolis (where I regularly heard about how the republican party killed Wellstone, and how president Bush wanted to set up concentration camps for homosexuals where they converted to heterosexual christians or would be tortured and killed.)

835 mama winger  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:24:52am

#830 Cosmic X

I posted a similar historical reference over at the DNC blog, where I was promptly called a racist.

836 scoreboard44  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:25:23am

BAH!BAH!BAH!
BAH!BAH!BAH!
BAH!BAH!BAH!
BAH!BAH!BAH!

Good morning all.

CriminItaly!

837 jehu  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:25:35am

Heather 815

#757 jehu

The enemy isn't someone you hate, the enemy is someone who hates you.


Exactly! I watch Bill O'Reilly (less and less) and he strives to present this utterly reasonable logical viewpoint. He likes to get Ann Coulter or Michelle Malkin on to serve as a right parenthesis to his position, and Moonbats to serve as a left parenthesis. All a ratings money game.

Nobody in authority is speaking the truth. Imagine a Presidential candidate listing the moral and social crimes of the Democrats? Doing it without equivocating, without fear? Point out how they have run the inner-cites and warehoused black Americans for 50 years? How they have destroyed the educational system? Helped to create single parent families...the single greatest cause of poverty.

But no, we get platitudes and bromides. Bush speaking of Islam as a "Great an Noble religion." Constrast that to Reagan saying Communism would be relegated to the "ash heap of history." If men in authority will not speak the truth, then deception has already won, only growing darkness can be forecast.

838 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:25:36am

#798 DesertSage

Digg Zombietime
let's give Z some diggs.

839 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:26:01am

*laughes*

hey scoreboard.

how's it going?

840 scoreboard44  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:26:40am

Geez...I hate Thursdays.

841 HeatherRadish  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:27:06am
Pork Soup is Not Racist in France

Is it racist somewhere else?

*bored*

842 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:27:21am

#828 {loppyd} - Morning back atacha, sweetie! How are you this fine day?

843 Cosmic X  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:27:39am

#835

Darn, I thought I was being original!

844 mama winger  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:27:50am

Jehu - It's a shame really. Some of what you say contains some good points. Unfortunately it's hard for me to get past the bitterness in your voice. So mostly I skip over.

Just my 2 cents FWIW

845 scoreboard44  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:28:14am

839 LanceKates

Been Busy working on New Year's resolutions.


DOES ANYONE HAVE A PORTABLE LIPOSUCTION MACHINE I CAN BORROW?

846 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:28:17am

#837 Jehu

If men in authority will not speak the truth

The Truth will speak through the People.

Vox Populi Vox Dei.

847 Kerfuffle  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:29:18am

#833 Poitiers-Lepanto

He's doing well, thanks for asking :) He's terrorizing his sister, who just turned 4 and feeding the dog who sits knowingly at the foot of his high chair. He has a follow-up first of March so we are saying prayers and crossing fingers.

848 Geepers  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:30:38am

Kerfuffle (#822),

Flame wars?

Closer to a flick of your BIC.

849 mama winger  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:31:20am

#845 scoreboard

DOES ANYONE HAVE A PORTABLE LIPOSUCTION MACHINE I CAN BORROW?

No way am I loaning out this baby. It'll be months. :)

850 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:31:24am

#832 {mama winger} - Hiya mama! That was one LARGE puppy - look at his eyes and wonder what he's thinking (probably why did they leave me out here in the snow!LOL!).
How are you and how's Winger Jr.?

851 LanceKates  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:32:02am

845 scoreboard

heh. your new years resolution is to suck the fat out of all the liberal TV personalities?

you brave brave soul.

852 mama winger  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:32:27am
Geez...I hate Thursdays.

It's Thursday? I better get crackin'.

853 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:32:43am

Arrggghhh How long am I going to hafta hear - Nancy Pelosi, the woman 2 heartbeats away from the prediency? The damn media glom onto a phrase and they are worse then pit bulls with raw meat. They just won't let go.

854 Widow'smight  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:32:46am

Mama Winger,

Would that be your doggie? He looks just like my "LUKE".

855 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:33:30am

#847 Kerfuffle

Good ! I'm glad to hear that.

You will forgive me if I will ask again in March.

I don't mean to make you nervous with my asking (as if I meant that something could go wrong), I am just curious to see if everything goes as quietly as I DO expect.

My prayers with you, anyway (don't we all need them ?).

856 scoreboard44  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:34:31am

#851 LanceKates


I've given up on politics(I think)and will now focus on my inner self.

OOOHHHMMMmmm!

And my inner fat.

857 Kerfuffle  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:34:32am

#848 Geepers

Yeah I guess I was anticipating, but it fizzled out. The thermometer just reads 'surly' at this point.

858 realwest  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:34:50am

#848 Geepers - Now, now remember, only YOU can prevent forest fires! LOL! BTW, I just got your reference to March weather in Ohio (I badly need another cup of coffee!). Folks here tell me this is about as "bad" as it gets around here, winter weather wise. That I can take a whole lot easier than feet of snow and temps below zero, everyday of the week!

859 mama winger  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:34:56am

#850 realwest

Hey there back atcha! I have a dog just like that. She'd live out in the snow if we let her. Loves the stuff.

Did you know some dogs will sit in the ice and snow till their testicles freeze? We've treated some goofy cases of frostbite at my vet hospital.

CAUTION: Don't let this happen to you.

860 brenda  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:35:13am

#809 muadib

Yep, it's been way too long since I've traveled in New Mexico. Back when I lived in Austin, I was shocked (as a proper Texan) that New Mex Mexican chow was lots better than TexMex.

861 storagemanager  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:35:41am
862 redstateredneck  Thu, Jan 4, 2007 6:36:02am

{Widow's}

Mama Winger,

Would that be your doggie? He looks just like my "LUKE".


I was hoping you'd see that; you're always talking about how much Luke likes the snow. The dachshund pack don't even want their feet to get wet. If they had to deal with snow, they'd never go outside!