So then Kerry sought out a table to talk to reporters...but, but there are NO reporters either! I hope this incident is not SEARED, SEARED into Lurch's memory!

Doesn't matter. I still hate him. The troops still laugh at him. I apologize to no one.

And I'm sorry I read the story. And looked at the picture. And thought about it. (is that good enough?)

Wrong (again).

Maybe they were NY Times reporters and JFKerry was trying to see if they had any good classified defense secrets that he hadn't been briefed on.

So are there other photos of Kerry surrounded by laughing, joyous soldiers?

I mean, our soldiers?

"I looked for a table with reporters before I didn't look for a table with soldiers, er...I dove into the turgid waters of Nantucket Bay on a Dark and Stormy Night to give mouth to mouth to my daughters hamsters, er, pass the Ketchup."

See Kerry wasnt being shunned he was just being passive/aggressive and sitting with reporters rather than our "Stepid" troops.

4. "First, I botched a joke how dumb stormtroopers got stuck on Tatooine. Then, I went to Tatooine and none of the storm-troopers would sit with me. Then, Emperor Palpatine decided I was just a big putz and I was out on my ass."

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OT

This is nice:

American passports found on Qaeda fighters in Somalia

#4 elvis

Wrong (again).

I guess that's supposed to meant something profound.

Isn't this just another example of the duplicitous kind of behavior that terrorists excel in -- holding the West to its own standards while pretending to believe the same and never living up to them? Someone should do a "fake but accurate" search at electioncentral and see how often the authors support using that one.

They just didn't show Mother Sheehan at the table with him. Pity.

"The table was cleared by an assault batallion of Jhenghis Khan like Storm Troopers to keep me isolated from the truth.

They were eating the entrails of unborn babies (that could have been used for cloning and botox injections) and with a horrible shout, attached battery wires to my genitals, er the hamsters genitiles, and then they...."

Charles: Your apology is fake. Take it from me, I know fake.

Who the heck cares? The picture will speak for itself years from now. Senator Kerry is an idiot; the troops know it. We know it.

He's so ronery.

Besides, according to this LLL, Senator Kerry went to the DFAC in Baghdad for some quiet time, away from the troops. That is typically effete of Senator Kerry, so I bet it's true, and it just shows that he is a fool. Also, I'm sure the troops were heartbroken (sarc).

#11 MW:
Well LGF is nothing if not consistent. ;)

ok, ep

"I yelled at the Master Sargent Cook, who had seared, seared my steak beyond my memory of seared stakes. I think it was Christmas Eve."

So, does this actually change the fact that our fine military personal can't stand John Kerry?

I don't think so.

When do we get to see the pictures of Kerry casually mixing with the troops?

"I threw my wife over the fence at Bagraham Base camp, actually it was someone elese's wife, but the thought still counts!"

Why is it that Democrats are ALWAYS able to cover their tracks with a little time, editing, and help from the media?

#10 Spinning Kerry's "Botched Joke"

Back in May, reporter Kate Zernike helped former presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry out by unquestioningly rehashing his revisionist account of the Swift Boats Veterans for Truth controversy, while failing to question several inconsistencies in Kerry's counterattack on the group.

Zernike again carried Kerry's water a week before the 2006 congressional election, in a November 2 "Political Memo," when it briefly seemed that a Kerry gaffe might hurt the Democrats. In the process, Zernike revealed herself as perhaps the only person following politics who didn't listen to Kerry's actual "botched joke."

What Kerry actually said at a campaign rally in California: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard and you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq."

Not only did the Times headline, "Flubbed Joke Makes Kerry a Political Punching Bag, Again," give Kerry the benefit of the doubt in assuming he didn't actually mean what came out of his mouth (he claimed he was attacking George W. Bush's lack of education, not the troops'), both the headline and the story managed to botch Kerry’s "botched joke."

"But with a single word -- or a single word left out of what was supposed to be a laugh line directed at the president -- Mr. Kerry has become a punching bag again, for Republicans and for his own party."

"A single word?" Try an entire paragraph.

"Mr. Kerry’s prepared remarks to California students on Monday called for him to say, 'Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.' In his delivery, he dropped the word 'us.'"

Zernike is implying Kerry actually said "Just ask President Bush," which would lead credence to Kerry’s "botched joke" idea. But if Kerry had actually said that, it wouldn't have become an issue at all.

A correction appeared the next day: "Mr. Kerry not only dropped the word 'us,' but he also rephrased his opening sentence extensively and omitted a reference to President Bush. Mr. Kerry’s aides said that the prepared text read: 'Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren’t smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.' What he said: 'You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.'"

Which is what everyone but the Times already knew.

I'm crying, too.

Jamil - you've got the truthers covered!

#17 elvis2k

Well, I've been here about a year and a half, and I've found Charles to be remarkably accurate. What have you found to be otherwise? Can you give me some examples?

Thanks.

He chose to sit with reporters instead of soldiers? Why? Was he scared he'd get beaned with a roll?

"We considered assasinating a congress critter, but then the Democrats came back into power the old fashioned way by buying votes and pandering to the stupid."

Ok. So my next question is.....

Why go to Iraq to visit with and chat with the troops, and then turn around and seek out a semi private table with a few members of the press, instead of eating with the soldiers at one of their tables.

You go to visit the troops to spend time with the troops, not sit with and talk to the press (which I know they all do).

I don't care who it is, Dem. or Rep., that to me is just a bit rude.

That would be TPM Cafe. As in Talking Points Memo. TPM Media LLC.

I go with the original story. I haven't seen any photos of Kerry with "smiling, appreciative" troops. It's no secret the troops despise him for what he stands for and for his history of anti-American and anti-military activities and statements. Is there any doubt that he would be shunned in Itaq? I don't think so. No, Greg Sargent can say what he wants. I'll stick with the first explanation, period.

Where are the cheering crowd photos?

"I married a rich ugly woman, but she was not rich or ugly enough, so I did it again."

Greg,

You'll never get an apology from right-wing nuts. They believe giving apologies is a sign of weakness. Prove them wrong as often as you want and they'll find any way possible to snivel out of their corner. How pathetic they are!

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On January 5, 2007 - 2:45pm cscs said:
This photo has been triumphantly pointed to by conservative bloggers who claim that it shows that Kerry was "snubbed" by the troops...

Are we on the left really as big of a collective asshole as those on the right?

Really, maybe it's just my liberal bias, but I don't see bloggers on the left simply making things up like this.

Anyway, props to you, Greg.

Dissent Protects Democracy.

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On January 5, 2007 - 2:49pm gqmartinez said:
Just curious, Rasmussen polls have consistently had Bush approval ratings ~5% higher than almost all other polls. Does anyone know what sort of model they are using that's different than everyone else's?

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On January 5, 2007 - 3:05pm Glenn in NYC said:
Yeah, their pollsters are instructed to only interview persons who appear to have their head shoved up their ass.

Wow.....sometimes you have to read their posts just to remind yourself just WHY you don't read their posts.......

#10 ChenZhen
There you are. Good link, btw. Your message didn't go through to my blog. I knew it was you with the fearbush thingy. Are you sure you want to do your new site in reverse? It's awfully tough to read. Reverse type (sorry if I sound like an old graphic arts dude here) should really only be limited to small areas.
This link is to the top growing WordPress blogs, and might give you some ideas for design. (I'm in there, woohee!)
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Who cares!

#19 Frogmarch- exactly...changes nothing

#20 Jrdroll - never - won't happen.

#17 elvis2k

#11 MW:
Well LGF is nothing if not consistent. ;)

ok, ep

huh? make sense please.

"I was served in Iraq"

Oh who are they trying to kid now. There ain't no NY Times reporters in Iraq.
/

That's a good point, actually. Where are the pictures of Sen. Just For Kerry hanging out and palling around with the troops? All we have are words from folks whom I have no inclination to trust. Where is their non-Photoshopped proof?

This horse walks into a Boston bar and spots J f'ing Kerry, and says, "why the long face?"

All these are my sincere way of apologizing to Kerry and reminiscing about all the fine times and memories he has given so many of us Vietnam Vets.

25 Mandy Manners

He chose to sit with reporters instead of soldiers? Why?

Everyone knows the our outstanding brave awesome (hated by democrats) Military personnel would only sit with Kerry if it were "an order".

This is a lame after the fact excuse. Who would want to sit with him? The man is an asshole.

If you actually read the comments for that story, there's a link to a Kos diary with photos of him with troops. None of them are casual really, but pictures of government-types rarely ever are in that situation. I wonder why he sought out a private table with reporters though. Maybe they were asking him why he was there and what the trip was meant to do.

Does this mean the troops DON'T hate the man? Hell no. I know too many troops that do to buy into that fantasy.

But come on people, don't be like the KosKiddies. Try and act like grown ups. We were wrong that the troops were the ones that snubbed him (instead of the other way around). Move on.

Kos is gloating about Jamil Hussein...

Rubbing it in
by kos

Check out links at both conservative and progressive blogs. In our side of the blogosphere, links will more often than not point to primary sources -- traditional media, government reports, scholarly studies, etc. At conservative blogs, the links are often to each other, grossly over-amplifying whatever inane fantasy they're promoting at the time.
...
Update: AP executive editor rips into bloggers who have now endangered Jamil Hussein's life.
...
Problem is, Carroll thinks the wingnutosphere cares about people's lives. In reality, they are more than willing to throw away people's lives -- including 3,000+ American servicemembers -- for the greater glory of their deity George Bush.

Heh™

Can someone please tell me why we put National Guardsmen on our border if they are not going to do anything but get 'over run'?

[Link: www.azcentral.com...]

Oh and speaking of apologies I owe this man nothing. He owes me and veterans going back at least 30 years, to include those currently serving more then any apology will ever make right. I care not that Kerry's dignity, pride or character are attacked. I suffered far worse thanks to him and those like him who managed to protray to the world that our service members were no better then Jenghis Khan.
/spit

OT:

'NYT' Sunday Preview: Trying to Get Cat Stevens To Back or Bash Hamas

NEW YORK Most of Deborah Solomon's interview with once and current folk-rock singer Cat Stevens -- known for many years now as Yusuf Islam -- for this coming Sunday's New York Times is amiable enough, as he discusses his recent return to recording and his funding of Muslim schools in England.

But then she raises the obviously still touchy issue of attempts abroad to link him to funding various extremist groups, including Hamas. He had just said he still sells about 1.5 million albums a year netting him a small fortune. What does he think of Hamas?

"That's an extremely loaded question," he replies. Pressed further, he says, "I have never supported a terrorist group or any group that did other than charity and good to humankind."

Solomon responds by saying, fine, but many Americans would like moderate Muslims, such as himself, to denounce the extremists. Wouldn't he at least say he has "contempt" for Hamas?

"I wouldn't put those words in my mouth," he complains. "I wouldn't say anything on that issue. I'm here to talk about peace. I'm a man who does want peace for this world," says the man who wrote "Peace Train," adding, "and I don't think you will achieve that by putting people into corners and asking them very, very difficult questions about very contentious issues."

Riiiiiiight.

Ever notice how DEMOCRATS and their little pundits are ALWAYS demanding an apology?

So silly.

#10 ChenZhen
Disturbing but we're lucky they died fighting to establish an Islamic state there instead of here.

"Mr. Kerry’s prepared remarks to California students on Monday called for him to say, 'Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.' In his delivery, he dropped the word 'us.'"

This funny coming from a man whose GPA was LOWER than GWB in college.

Clearly a "botched" photo.

#34 ec marm

Hey thanks! I'm trying to get our guy to make some improvements, and I agree that it needs a little tweaking. We're workin on it.

BTW- I wasn't trying to post a comment on your blog....I was using your blog to test the trackback pings ;) Hope you don't mind.

f**k him anyway, who cares?

Charles,

You owe no one an apology, tongue in cheek or not.

The soldiers DID indeed shun Kerry.
Any one of them could have walked over and sat down with him. If any given celebrity that was respected came to visit the troops, like say Mel Gibson or Jessica Simpson - troops would have been falling over themselves to sit with or around them.

This "man" has no appeal to the soldiers and it shows plain as day.

Even Geraldo would have garnered a few lookie-loos but not this piece of shit.

I vant to be alone.

Bill O'Reilly was in country at the same time. One of them, O'Reilly/Kerry, had lines of soldiers waiting to get a glimpse and or an autograph. You guess which.

oh and I guess Kerry isn't a sh*thead either

NOT.

#30 I suppose anyone reading my post assumed I meant Iraq, not Itaq. Itaq is no where near Iraq. Thousnads, no, millions of miles away...no better yet it exists only in the nether regions of the mind of Kerry, right next to Christmas in Cambodia.

If you're in the mood for mental pain, go to the story link and read some of the comments.

Example:

According to the wingers, American troops are so dumb that they believe Kerry meant to insult them --even though Kerry went to Vietnam, and thus would have been insulting himself.

This bit of tortured logic is brought to you by "Alan in" wait - for - it - "SF."

# 27
Kerry is known for his rudness, especially to our troops. I'm sure he didn't go there to really spend time with our troops.
And I didn't see any pictures of him with or near any of our troops.

#59 Little ol Me

I saw two pics of him with troops, neither of which showed him actually interfacing with them. They both had "photo op with unwilling troops" written all over them.

Some people live lives that need no constant explanation. Kerry is not one of them.

Hey, I figure if Kerry had any sense of shame whatsoever, he would have gulped the muzzle of an AK-47 with the selector set on full auto and a fresh 30 round clip of armor piercing ball ammo a long, long, time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.....

"Able Danger: Clinton's Folly"

#24 mama winger
Well, I've been here about a year and a half, and I've found Charles to be remarkably accurate.

Okay, I'm ready to apologize, just as soon as Kerry releases his military record.

I hope Michelle isn't hoping to have a little "quiet" time with some reporters to hold an off the record discussion while she is over there. Or as we might call it Mission Impossible.
Which prompts another question. Why is it Kerry can have an "off the record" discussion with reporters and it stays off the record but if some disgruntled office wormn at the CIA decides to "leak" classified info "off the record" it winds up in 3" type on the front page of the newspaper?

I read Charles' link to this story and to me it is too confusing. It seems one side says he and him were there with Kerry and the Kerry camp said no it was him and he.

It sounds like even the "players" in this event don't know who was there with whom. Color me skeptical.

Hell, if the Kerry camp and the NY camp can't agree on who was with him how can we believe that they're suddenly telling the truth.

but just so I make myself clear

Fuck You Jon Carry

Killgore Trout #43:

Reading Markos Moulitsas, I am left with the following thoughts:

1. Laughter at the thought that somehow the 'progressive' blogosphere is particularly more accurate than the conservative blogosphere. (not that LGF is particularly 'conservative,' rather, I view LGF as simply for fighting Islamofascists)

2. The thought that Jamil Hussein, if that indeed is his real name, has already 'outed' himself, and so his existence is not threatened. If that is not his real name, then we are left taking the AP's word that somehow there is this secret source under an assumed name in the Iraqi army. We should be rather skeptical of such 'secret sources.'

3. Amusement that somehow Kos prides himself as 'accurate,' when I have read over the site for years and have found so many glaring mistakes by so many diarists, that it is laughable. It would take a tome thousands of pages thick to produce all of the daily mistakes on DKos.

4. The thought that the blogosphere had every right to question Jamil Hussein's existence. After all, given the fauxtography scandal, not to mention Rathergate, how exactly are we to trust the AP on anything, per se? Why is it crazy to demand accountability?

Charles has acknowledged that he may have been wrong on Jamil Hussein (may have: until we actually see Jamil Hussein the person, how do we know for sure he and other bloggers were wrong?), but given the pathetic state of the media, it was clearly an honest mistake.

so if everyone who wrote about this photo doesn't apologize....is Greggy going to hold his breath and turn blue like the 6 year old I'm sure he is?

lol..what a tool!

Liberals piss me off. Republicans are the party of apologies, corrections, and responsibility. The Dems are a party of stubbornness, circling the wagons, and hypocrisy.

samhein,

You took the words out of my mouth.

You go half way around the world, you're a political "leader", to visit troops in a war zone.

Yet you DON'T take every advantage of your UNIQUE, short, visit to ENCOURAGE and LISTEN TO, people who are risking their lives for their/your country.

You can't be bothered to make the VERY SYMBOLIC opportunity to break bread with these people at every chance but you PREFER to chat with reporters......

Well, I'd say someone who does this is really clarifying his AGENDA. His "story" is more important than anything else. That takes precedence over any "support the troops" crap.

Can Kerry be anymore explicit as to what he is all about? Does he have to wear an "I am an opportunistic ASS" sign around for people (even reporters) to finally get it?

#63 elvis2k

That story was a little ahead of my arrival here, I believe, so I will have to read that thread. Thank you for your response, but in order to provide a pattern of consistency as you say, there should be more than one example.

I will read it though.

Was anyone asserting that he sat at a table full of troops who then left? I had always presumed they sat at an empty table. And no one came to sit with them.

That they have confirmed that they chose an empty table doesn't change this.

Other than they are saying, "Yes, no one came to sit with us but we didn't want them to anyway."

Actually, I had always thought that in official visits like this, troops may approach the official but never asked to sit with them, popular or disdained. Anyone with experience on the ground know different?

As a Vietnam Vet, I feel I don't really have to apologize to Kerry, but he sure as hell owes me one, for his behavior after leaving Vietnam.

As far as this story goes...

A simple "easy mistake to make" is really all that is necessary.

The photo did look rather damning, after all.

has the high school bell rung yet

This traitorous sorry excuse of a human should be in jail for his actions. How anyone would want to associate themselves with type of FECULENCE, just baffles me.

it all boils down to who and what do you believe

2 liberal reporters and/or Jon Carry's office (and even those two sides don't always agree on who was there)

or do you believe the photographer who took the photo

not to mention the tellingness of the photo itself

after all
1 picture is worth 1,000 words
and there ain't no 1,000 troops mobbing him

I stick by the facts shown in the photo
the man is alone and lonely

you can judge a man by the company he keeps and his only company is the MSM/biased media

enough said

#53

If any given celebrity that was respected came to visit the troops, like say Mel Gibson or Jessica Simpson - troops would have been falling over themselves to sit with or around them.

Jessica Simpson?

So now the story is they purposefully wanted to be alone. I see.

I saw that photo last week. Honestly, I thought it was photoshopped.

LMAO!

That makes being wrong feel right.

maybe this overzealous progressive could delve as deeply into the missing Form 180?

tfk really outlined the major Kerry stories for you, Mr. Sargent. Now get to work.

****** TiVO Alert **********

For those of you that have a DVR, TiVo, foxnews with the rebroadcast you might want to watch Cavuto today.

I just watched a great segment about the Somali muslim cab drivers with Bo Deadle(sp?) and this Imam from St Paul

Deadle ripped him a new a-hole BIG TIME

One of the best arse whoopings I've ever seen on Fox

catch the rebroadcast, TiVO, whatever. Worth a look !

Crocker & Petraeus .....so much for progress!

2 steps forward 3 steps back

Last time I checked Kerry is into taking his own pictures for proof.

Sometimes even movies!

Well J----K show us the pictures!

Vets know the truth you traitor!

So the photo was real after all. Too bad for the conspiracy theorists on the left.

I just learned Kerry has applied for a Purple Heart after suffering mental jabs from LGF posts

maybe a bronze star is due?

Kerry you bastard, you deserve an apology when the vets you accused ( In detroit ) get one

OT-

WINTER RETURNS WATCH

AccuWeather.com's Joe Bastardi thinks the change to cold, which starts in New York with a return to normal mid January temps early next week, will hit at the end of January and through February so hard, that it may well balance out the abnormally warm winter such that the overall winter turns out remarkably average!

Shake in arctic terror as most 12Z GFS ensemble members show a trough in the East or Mid-West, with high pressure bulging into Alaska to tap arctic air and send it to the nations mid section and points East!

500 mb ensemble means for 240 hours is a cool and stormy one!

And a cool one! Oh, I said that already.

And a stormy one!

Check out links at both conservative and progressive blogs. In our side of the blogosphere, links will more often than not point to primary sources -- traditional media, government reports, scholarly studies, etc

I think Markie needs to re-acquaint himself with what "primary sources" really are, exactly.

Who says 'Able Danger', where DoD lawyers working for the Clinton Administration refused to share information that would have stopped 9-11 didn't happen?

Political opportunism at its worst.

28 indicated they would vote differently knowing then what they know now:

1. Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont.
2. Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind.
3. Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del.
4. Former Sen. John Breaux, D-La.
5. Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash.
6. Former Sen. Jean Carnahan, D-Mo.
7. Sen. Tom Carper, D-Del.
8. Former Sen. Max Cleland, D-Ga.
9. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.
10. Former Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D.
11. Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn.
12. Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.
13. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.
14. Former Sen. Peter Fitzgerald, R-Ill.
15. Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa
16. Former Sen. Fritz Hollings, D-S.C.
17. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas
18. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.
19. Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis.
20. Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La.
21. Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla.
22. Former Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell, R-Colo.
23. Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va.
24. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.
25. Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore.
26. Former Sen. Bob Smith, R-N.H.
27. Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine
28. Former Sen. Bob Torricelli, D-N.J.

Lot of Dems on that list. The million dollar question is what didn't these Senators supposedly know back in 2002? What information did the President have access to that they didn't?

Ultimately the answer is to what they knew when is irrelevant. I suspect the only real motivation for giving the President the authorization to oust Saddam Hussein was political expediency. These Senators thought the war would be quick and painless so they voted to authorize it thinking that they'd be able to bask in the afterglow. This lot is a real profile in courage.

Bottom line is, you and a bunch of other wingnut Lizards were disrespectful.

May Iran nuke you all !

/(safely hiding underground)

This is a very rare case where "FAKE but ACCURATE" applies.

Power to the Correct People!

94

dirk

Maybe the GOP can take a poll on how many senators would have voted to Convict Bubbafucco CLinton on his impeachment?

fair is fair when it comes to hindsight

#67 Quella
Agreed, we're all "wrong" from time to time. It's the people who are never admit mistakes or change their mind that trouble me.

Yeah, OK sure.

So where are the pictures of the lines of soldiers waiting to get his autograph?

More BS from a major bullshit artists.

Go back to magic hats and flying dogs Senator, those are more believable.

#94 Dirk... Great post might I add....

Most of what they knew was lost under a construction trailor!

"1939 and counting"

Dirk Diggler 1/5/2007 01:58PM PST

Political opportunism at its worst.

28 indicated they would vote differently knowing then what they know now:

1. Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont.
2. Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind.
3. Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del.
4. Former Sen. John Breaux, D-La.
5. Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash.
6. Former Sen. Jean Carnahan, D-Mo.
7. Sen. Tom Carper, D-Del.
8. Former Sen. Max Cleland, D-Ga.
9. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.
10. Former Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D.
11. Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn.
12. Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.
13. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.
14. Former Sen. Peter Fitzgerald, R-Ill.
15. Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa
16. Former Sen. Fritz Hollings, D-S.C.
17. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas
18. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.
19. Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis.
20. Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La.
21. Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla.
22. Former Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell, R-Colo.
23. Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va.
24. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.
25. Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Ore.
26. Former Sen. Bob Smith, R-N.H.
27. Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine
28. Former Sen. Bob Torricelli, D-N.J.

Lot of Dems on that list. The million dollar question is what didn't these Senators supposedly know back in 2002? What information did the President have access to that they didn't?

Ultimately the answer is to what they knew when is irrelevant. I suspect the only real motivation for giving the President the authorization to oust Saddam Hussein was political expediency. These Senators thought the war would be quick and painless so they voted to authorize it thinking that they'd be able to bask in the afterglow. This lot is a real profile in courage.

and you?

By the way, if we're "humiliated", aren't we entitled to a riot, or a CAIR lawsuit? Shouldn't somebody file a ridiculous piece of legislation on our behalf?

Let's get down to brass tacks. The Democrats are a majority now. I'm humiliated, where's my handout?

Speaking on Clinton and his expert work protecting us from al Qaeda by indicting people after terror attacks happened, anyone hear Andy Mccarthy of National Review on Bill Bennett this morning discussing his theory as to why former National Security Advisor Sandy Burglar was attempting to steal and destroy classified documents from the archives?

103 ed of many weather updates

missed it.
can you give a summary?

cheers

#58 Catttt

even though Kerry went to Vietnam, and thus would have been insulting himself.

This genius's argument is that Kerry couldn't have really meant to insult the troops because Kerry was one himself.

As if no one had ever insulted their own group or former group. As if self-loathing didn't exist. As if no one ever uttered the words, "It makes me ashamed to be a ____." Historically, some vocal critics of almost any group come from within.

And even if that almost never happened, did the poster really claim that about Kerry? John Kerry? Tall guy, long face? Are we talking about the same John Kerry here? This man has made a 30 year career out of insulting US troops. I could list quotes of his for pages. Rapists, terrorists, maimers, murderers...

(Irony alert: On preview I realized I had misspelled "genius.")

A foolish patrician with, in the words of Mark Steyn, "no sense of his own ridiculousness." How out-of-touch with the common man can one possibly be? He would not look out of place in the middle ages as some decadent, self-indulgent, narcissistic monarch who claims to care and speak on behalf of his subjects but openly mocks them, exploits them and holds them in contempt. I have never seen a politician with a more over bloated sense of self-worth and self-importance or one more convinced of the immense inferiority of everybody else. Truly, he sucks.

#92 Pawn of the Oppressor

Check out links at both conservative and progressive blogs. In our side of the blogosphere, links will more often than not point to primary sources -- traditional media, government reports, scholarly studies, etc

I think Markie needs to re-acquaint himself with what "primary sources" really are, exactly.

Good point.
Moreover, I would suspect that traditional media and scholarly reports should both be taken with a grain of salt.
As far as 'government reports' are concerned, don't "progressives", among others, dismiss reports of, oh, WMD's, for example?

Big Al, you summed it all up in about three words.

He is a bastard.

And TFK, I just did some reading in my "office" about Kansas City, and 1971.

so then, the soldiers didn't diss Kerry by not sitting with HIM, HE dissed the soldiers by not sitting with THEM.

Oh...that's much better.

akak,

and you?

What's your point? I supported ousting Saddam Hussein in 2002 and I still think it was the best course of action. The problems we face in Iraq today don't erase Saddam's megalomania, bloodlust, and penchant for horrendous miscalculations.

I wonder if Michelle Malkin got an apology for the photo-shopped 'Michelle gone Wild' picture the Liberals were pushing as real? crickets..

You know...

I seem to remember a fake "shelling" of a Gaza beach that we were all right about... when do we get our apologies?

I'd like to see a picture of soldiers surrounding Kerry (ones who were not forced to be there). I would then know which (of the very few) military folks that I would never again associate with.

Alas, the soldiers were too busy to see Jon Karry.

This article, from the Opinion Journal, is excellent. It was written by the father of a medal-winning Spc, who gave his life in Iraq so that a POS like Hanoi John could be safe.

Fuck Kerry.
- baby-killer (I must be one 'cause Kerry said so)

This only confirms what many believed from the beginning: Hanoi Jean-Pierre couldn't find buy a soldier anywhere on that base who was willing to compromise his or her principles just to be his window dressing.

Had it been Lieberman, Rummy, Giuliani or Ed Koch talking (rather than pontificating) to the media, the whole damn base would have been there, just to see one of their supporters.

I voted for the 87 billion dollars . . . before I voted against it.

Call those words the variety that come back and bite you on the ass.

The dumb bastard was lucky he didn't get fragged.

The IslamoNazis are the enemy! Wade into them. Spill their blood, shoot them in the belly. We're going to kick the hell out of those goddam sons of whores, dogs, monkeys and pigs all the time, and we're going to go through those bastards like shit through a goose!

Now, there's one thing that you'll be able to say, and you may thank God for it. Thirty years from now, when you're sitting around your fireside with your grandson on your knee, and he asks you, "What did you do in the war?"

You won't have to look down at the ground and mumble, "Well, I shoveled shit in Koslamistan."

/channeling Gen. George S. Patton, Jr., Third Army, Commanding.

The left has never flinched in standing by their 'fake but accurate' releases.

I highly doubt Kerry wanted to sit alone; he probably was shunned, two reporters felt sorry for him, they concocted this story...it's a conspiracy!

#81 Adrenalyn

or do you believe the photographer who took the photo

Indeed. The photographer talked about more than just the breakfast photo.

Sen. Kerry found himself all alone while he was over here. He cancelled his press conference because no one came, he worked out alone in the gym w/o any soldiers even going up to say hi or ask for an autograph (I was one of those who was in the gym at the same time), and he found himself eating breakfast with only a couple of folks who are obviously not troops.

And the devastating proof that the soldier was "wrong" is that they assert Kerry was eating breakfast with a couple of people who aren't troops. Which is what the soldier said.

No answer to his claims that Kerry canceled a press conference or worked out alone. Just, "Yes we were alone but we wanted to be."

#101 akak
if you think anyone on that list had the courage of their true convictions,when they voted for the war,your nuts.They voted with the political wind,and sent people to fight and die for a cause they did not personally believe in.All to retain their power.you may not agree with pres. bush,but he at least believes a world without saddam is a better one.As far as i am concerned these people are without honor,or courage.

#115 American Soldier

Back atcha!

:)

Thanks for the email.

Has anyone presented a picture of him WITH troops?

102 Pawn of the Oppressor

You get that hand out after your LGF Zionist check. Get it together man.

Cheers.

American Soldier

'Back atcha' was for the email. Not for him calling you a baby-killer, that son of a bitch scum.

McCarthy's theory- Clinton and Dem pals were attempting to put blame on Bush for 9-11 partly by trumpeting their 'success' at thwarting the Millenium LAX bombing plot- but an after-action report written by Richard Clarke demonstrated that breaking that was pretty much luck, the border agent on the Canadian border thought the terrorist was smuggling drugs because of his obvious discomfort at being questioned. There was no great intelligence coup involved.

But speaking of Able Danger, I've heard other theories that Burglar was attempting to destroy references to the program that would have shown Clinton administration types ordering the DoD not to share info with the FBI.

Out of curiosity, did any of these righteously indignant left-threaded wingnuts apologize when it was proved the shunned-Kerry photo was NOT photoshopped?

The real story is even more condemning.

That being he was there to visit with troops not give interviews which he easily could have scheduled for a "private" time NOT during the time he was supposed to be visiting with "troops."

Why would his "people" even schedule an interview when he was supposed to be mingling with the troops?

I linked to the Lerch story as well, and apologize for nothing. So there.

#127 JWF

You are one cold-hearted bastard, Jammie.

#121 Cato

Has anyone presented a picture of him WITH troops?

I imagine that if we search hard enough, we can find some pics of sKerry meeting with NVA officers in France, ca 1972...

#81 Adrenalyn,

I think the pic of the Soldiers asking Jon Cary for halp is all the evidence we need to see how they feel about Flipper.

I still want to know: Did Lurch stop in North Vietnam after his photo op tour in Iraq to gaze fondly at the plaque in his honor installed in the Commie Museum?

[Link: ice.he.net...]

And no, I'm not apologizing.

#121 Cato

Has anyone presented a picture of him WITH troops?

Well there is this nice pic of him with some Marines at Wendys.

Can't you just feel the contempt, both ways?

Big Story with John Gibson promises a story on Somali Cab drivers in the next segment

I love seeing things in the MSM that I knew about ( and more about ) weeks ago ( thanks to this website, and other blogs )

The Marines — two in uniform and two off-duty — were polite but curt while chatting with Kerry, answering most of his questions with a “yes, sir” or “no, sir.”

But they turned downright nasty after the Massachusetts senator thanked them “for their service” and left.

“He imposed on us and I disagree with him coming over here shaking our hands,” one Marine said, adding, “I’m 100 percent against [him].”

Remember, this is the guy the LLLs have been working so hard to defend. Personally, I'd give him a miss and concentrate on more viable Dems.

mama winger,

mama winger 1/5/2007 02:24PM PST

#127 JWF

You are one cold-hearted bastard, Jammie.

Someone once told me to eat my heart out.

So I did.

#73 Silhouette

Actually, I had always thought that in official visits like this, troops may approach the official but never asked to sit with them, popular or disdained. Anyone with experience on the ground know different?

Here ya go!

Catttt,

Is this the guy?

25 MandyManners

He chose to sit with reporters instead of soldiers?

I picked up on that too. It is funny that these liberals always come up with a way to spin it..they just need a long time to do it (took them long enough). It's one of those "explanations" we've heard before two lovers who split up..."I broke up with her" when in actuality, she broke up with him first.

Kerry wants to make sure that everyone knows that it was HE who chose where to sit and it wasn't with the troops.

Whether the troops avoided him or he avoided the troops...he looks like the dolt.

#125 bad cat robot

Out of curiosity, did any of these righteously indignant left-threaded wingnuts apologize when it was proved the shunned-Kerry photo was NOT photoshopped?

They also claimed at one point the photo was from January 2006, and that it was taken in Britain (because of the flag in the background, for one thing.)

The time stamp did say January 2006, but given that the camera itself wasn't sold until February 2006, clearly the date was set wrong on the camera.

But you don't have to take my word for it.

The original photographer took another picture a few days later, of a subject holding a current newspaper, and it did indeed still show January 2006 (see POwerline post on this), just several days later. Also, the person sat in the same chair Kerry used, proving it was indeed the US Embassy dining hall in Iraq as the background is identical, Brit flag and all.

138

How about John "How Do I Look?" Edwards instead?

#142 Catttt,

The Breck Girl™ himself :-)

#138 RadicalRon

Dang, Rummy, way to hog the condiments.

Catttt, I am just north of you, across the Mason-Dixon.

We take our cheese-steaks very seriously.

That last photo just makes me grit my teeth every time.

No true Philadelphian would eat one with swiss, let alone tomato.

Save the tomato for the hoagies. Ketchup is a tomato.

As for the swiss, perhaps hot roast beef with horse-radish.

I am a simple man. I can't stand him for desecrating a perfectly fine steak.

Let me make it crystal clear, as crystal clear as I know how: I apologize to no one for my criticism of J F'n Kerry and of his broken policy.

141 Silhouette

Not to mention there were numerous pictures on Flickr of the same DFAC in the Green Zone, uploaded by various troops. I sent a link to a pic of the same DFAC at Thanksgiving to Michelle Malkin, and she ran it and gave me a credit! (blush)

Flickr is an excellent source. I'd found some great Iran photo essays on, for example, their crazy religious police force. Those have thinned out, since Iran is blocking left and right.

Here's a photo of Rumsfeld's visit to Iraq in 2005 as deaths mounted towards that grim milestone.

In December 2006, with so many photos to choose from, Kerry posted these photos of his successful visit "supporting the troops" in Iraq. Can you FEEL the love?

JFK...If you truly, honestly knew how much your are an enemy of the people and the state.

If you truly knew how much people loath you.

If you truly understood the graphic pain and utter dismay and disgust the people have for you.

If you truly comprehended the visual sickness you give the people.

If you truly fathomed the contempt the people have incensed towards you.

If you truly could see the putrid fire and rage the people have for you.

If you could truly feel the anguish, pain, and suffering you have caused the people.

If you truly knew how people see your long face and doped up look as a sign of the devil.

If you truly understood that you are a sickness, a virus among the people, a bacteria so dissolute that god himself will show no mercy on your soul-less, life-less shell when the joyous day of your body turns into compost for my chickens to eat and shit out.

If you only truly knew how your name fires up a fury in the people so virulent it sickens us to the point of spontaneous vomit.

If you ever knew the truth about what your neighbors, friends, family, constituency and fellow senators honestly felt about you. you would do the right thing JFK, and spare us all the humiliation as a country. again, do the right thing JFK.

/hands over a butter knife

#59 Little ol Me

But geeze....I'd be doing some damage control.......

unbridled temerity and hubristic irresponsibility

Sounds like Unmitigated Audacity to me.

Sorry, these are Kerry's photos of his visit in Iraq.

You know damn well if there were any photo op shots of Jon Cary with the guys in Iraq, they would have been plastered all over the media. There weren't any---because no one wanted to be seen with that ugly turd. Just goes to reason.

152 blue sky

I just paged through those. I don't know why the LLLs don't run them - he has some photo ops there - subdued troops, compared to the big huge smiles on the faces of the troops in pictures with people they don't despise, but photo ops, nonetheless.

One problem is that Senator Kerry has an ivory tower cum stumblebumb persona. It's hard not to smile when you meet Donald Rumsfeld, because he is outgoing, amusing, and can talk to anyone. Senator Kerry is just not personable, plus he's awkward as all heck. IMHO.

The shunning of Lt. Kerry is 37 years late.

That it is, TFK. Bingo.

I read Charles' apology as sarcastic (I heard Homer Simpson's voice in my head...).

And "sought out an empty table to have an off-the-record discussion with reporters" speaks volumes more about Kerry and his character (or lack thereof) than "troops didn't want him ruining their breakfast."

An analogy I use to explain it to people who *just don't get it*: Any logical person would deduce that if you slam an employee, they won't want to be around the boss.

Since this of course requires logic to follow, liberals don't get it.

I wonder how long it will take liberals to "prove" that this didn't happen either:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

/sarc

Senator Kerry is just not personable, plus he's awkward as all heck.

Being a traitor to one's own nation doesn't help much either, I might add.

154 Stuck-in-CA

You know damn well if there were any photo op shots of Jon Cary with the guys in Iraq, they would have been plastered all over the media.

EXACTLY!

flipper can kiss my a$$

It doesn't matter. I know my own flesh and blood tries to avoid Kerry. All three who are serving think that the guy is a jerk.

159 Cartman

Now now now. I agree with tfk on Senator Kerry. However, I'm talking about the fact - lucky for us, imho - that Senator Kerry has the personality - at least in public - of a stuck up rich dork.

To Greg,
I bet you would need to spend 10X the time to find a picture of Kerry at a full table of amiable servicemen. Who cares.
Where's the beef?

-elvis2k-

still waiting on that pattern you dink...

Why does this explanation sound like a flimsy rationalization? I have the distinct impression that he didn't have to do much seeking for that empty spot.

taxfree-

Kerry windsurfing-

[Link: www.pacificwindsurf.com...]

#164 catttt

Oh, don't get me wrong - I agree 110% with your assessment of the man's personality characteristics. I guess what I'm saying is that when we look at the whole package, it is extremely unpalatable.

OT, but appropriate.

NEW YORK (AP) -- Drew Barrymore wants everybody to lighten up.

"You know, it's all just humor," the 31-year-old actress says in an interview in the February issue of Harper's Bazaar magazine, on newsstands Jan. 16. "Don't take life so seriously. Don't take fashion too seriously. Don't take the movie industry too seriously. Don't take love and your relationship so ... heavy all the time."

"Laugh, laugh, laugh," she continues. "Life is like high school and it's small and everybody talks about everybody, so just laugh ..."

I'm laughing.

I can't help it, but something's a bit hinky with this fauxto from Jean-Pierre's website.

Must be my charter membership in the "vast, right-wing conspiracy that's out to get us" because we lie a lot all the time.

The IslamoNazis are the enemy! Wade into them. Spill their blood, shoot them in the belly. We're going to kick the hell out of those goddam sons of whores, dogs, monkeys and pigs all the time, and we're going to go through those bastards like shit through a goose!

Now, there's one thing that you'll be able to say, and you may thank God for it. Thirty years from now, when you're sitting around your fireside with your grandson on your knee, and he asks you, "What did you do in the war?"

You won't have to look down at the ground and mumble, "Well, I shoveled shit in Koslamistan."

/channeling Gen. George S. Patton, Jr., Third Army, Commanding.

169 Cartman

Oh, yes. I am mindful of that. I think if he lived anywhere but the People's Republic of Mass., he'd not be re-elected. OK, he might get elected from the San Francisco area as well. I think the number one reason he didn't win the Presidency was the Swift Boats Vets outting (and I contributed to their cause). Number two - he's a rich, stuck-up dork. :) Every time he did a publicity thing, he alienated more people. Example - there are (trust me) people in Philly who didn't vote for him because of the Swiss cheese incident.

171 RadicalRon

My thought on that photo is they made the troops put their hands behind them so they couldn't pull a Hillary Clinton King's X.

My apologies to the Senator if I am wrong. One thing though, why go to Iraq to talk to reporters? One WOULD think that reporters are available 24/7/365 in Washington, DC. Troops serving in Iraq are available 24/7/365 only in IRAQ! If not the eternal "Question of Balance",
at least a question of priorities.

-S-

...alone or not, the guy is still a jackass...

surely everyone can see the whole story was a botched joke ha ha ha

Yes, I stand corrected in any comments I may have made about this. Kerry wasn't lonely. He so dislikes American soldiers for either their stupidity or their participation in Khegis Khan-like genocide that he refused to sit with them, preferring the company of two journalists instead.

Yes, even though he was in Iraq, where over 3,000 American soldiers have died helping to create a free and democratic country, he didn't consider them worthy of his company. Much better to sit with journalists who, like him, lie and slander those soldiers. Bird of a feather and all that.

Again, I apologize for any mistaken comments I may have made about that photo. I didn't quite plumb the depths of Kerry's depravity. For that I am truly sorry.

--Mike Perry, Editor, Dachau Liberated

Haha! PWN3D, wingnuts!

Now it's time for you to release those secret surpressed photos of the troops clamoring for a John Kerry autographed magic hat!

#27 samhein

Exactly what I was thinking - I scrolled down and saw you seemed to be the first making the point.

Another way to put it is to ask provocative questions - much like a leftist wackademmmmmic -

"We ought to ask ourselves, as Derrida did, what is outside of the frame of this picture? What about the frame itself? We must ask what it is that is being centered for us and endeavor to de-center it. Can we not see that what Kerry intends to speak to reporters about are things that he does not want soldiers to know? Are there not soldiers outside of the frame? Are things being said by Kerry that the reporters are expected to not report? Otherwise, the soldiers would learn them from the reporters - so why not include the soldiers who are "outside the frame"? Can we therefore call these people "reporters" or should we call them "not-reporters"?

There are many pre-assumptions that have been framed for us to challenge here."

So do you think I could pretend to be a Native American, fake a resume and bullshit my way into a job teaching in Colorado?

By the way, Charles, it's so cool when you let loose on the keyboard. It's magic.

And I'll bet those soldiers were sorely disappointed that Kerry chose to talk with reporters rather than fraternizing with the rank and file, sharing war stories, and giving seasoned advice about the nuances of being a "Winter Soldier."

Since I know Kerry's aloofness must have left enduring emotional scars on the psyches of the servicemen he snubbed, I hereby invoke the great Clintonian tradition of apologizing for things done by people that one has no right to speak for:

On behalf of

the Democratic Party,
the State of Massachusetts,
the antiwar activists who slandered Vietnam veterans,
the elitist snobs who think soldiers are uneducated losers,
and Sen. John Kerry himself,

I hereby offer, to the brave and dutiful men and women serving our country, my personal apology for the fact that John Kerry is enough of a horse's ass to show up in a mess tent in Iraq.

Being Chief Lizard means never having to say you're sorry.

Or when you condescend to saying you're sorry, still acting like a complete jerk about it.

Gordon (#182),

Being bitter is your specialty isn't?

Being nodroG means never having an original thought.

#182 Gordon

Or when you condescend to saying you're sorry, still acting like a complete jerk about it.

On your best day, you could never write with 1% of the wit contained in those few paragraphs. Jealous. Pen(is) envy?

The way I look at it, Kerry wasn't being snubbed by the troops, it was Kerry who was snubbing the troops.

#182 Gordon 1/5/2007 04:08PM PST

Being Chief Lizard means never having to say you're sorry.

I guess you would have preferred if he started out by saying, "I apologize to no one." Where have I heard that before?

Uh oh, looks like someone is hungry for attention from their daddy again...

#182 Gordon

Being Chief Lizard means never having to say you're sorry.

Or when you condescend to saying you're sorry, still acting like a complete jerk about it.

And being a moonbat means tearing off your jersey, doing the chicken dance, and chest-butting all your teammates when the opposing fussball team accidentally knocks one into their own goal.

Well, for LGF to restore even a shred of dignity, Charles should airbrush a guy into one of those empty chairs. I mean, it's only adhearing to the same lofty standards of the AP, after all.

And they are REAL journalists.

Sigh. Another Gordo drive-by. The janitor at the community college must have swept him out of the computer lab. Either that, or Mama Gordo called him up from the basement for the Friday evening Spaghetti-O's supper. ;)

Democrats:
The hypocrites that want us to beieve whatever they say, just because they say so.

Whiney little trust fund bitches.

SCREW THEM!

I personally talked to a buddy in Iraq. She stated that she would spit on kerry before she would speak to or otherwise acknowledge that traitor. She told Napalm Bill himself to go get fucked, so I have no reason to doubt her.

If brains were shit, Nodrog would have nothing but diarrhea running down his legs.

/the fact remains that the vast majority of military members hate Kerry's guts

I couldn't say why but Gordon conjures up a mental image to me, each time he surfaces, of a Norman Bates type of character.

#191 Cartman

"Mama Gordo called him up from the basement"

........."Yes Mother.....I hear you Mother........."

/creepy oedipal complex having psycho off

#173 Catttt

In addition to the crossed fingers, he looks like he's ready to spew. She looks mid-orgasmic because she finally found someone badgered a general long enough that he ordered the paratrooper to hold his breath long enough to touch the bitch so she could get her damn picture taken supporting the troops.

I never thought I'd even think like this, much less say it, but if that c--- gets elected POTUS, I will give very serious consideration to moving to the northeastern part of the Czech Republic, to a large town on the Polish border, about 35-40 miles from Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Good people, great food, and decent healthcare is available. Better yet, in this particular region, they despise the French. That's because of the Munich Accords, as well as the French refusing to honor a mutual defense pact when the Wehrmacht entered what was left of the country after the Sudetenland annexation.

When Czech mercenaries showed up in le Republique to fight the Nazis in 1940, le Surrender Monkeys were going to hand them over to the SS right after they surrendered. The Czechs were quick to find out, offed a few Monkeys and escaped to England during the Dunkirk fiasco, with most returning on D-Day.

Some returned to the Czech Lands in '42, parachuting in. Five made it to Praha (Prague) and in May, 1942, pulled off the only assassination of a major Nazi figure, SS-Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich, #2 whore's son in the SS and chief architect of the Final Solution to the Jewish Problem. Conspiracy is an excellent movie about the Wannsee Conference, where Heydrich more or less told other Party bigwigs what was going to be done and how. It also covers Eichmann's earlier trips to the British Mandate to study Jews and commiserate with the Grand Mufti of the RoP-Jerusalem, who became an SS general (and was Yasser Arafart's tutor in his later years).

If you can't rent it, check eBay. I bought a new copy there for ten bucks.

Operation Daybreak is an excellent representation of the planning and execution of Heydrich's assassination.

I highly recommend both (warning: due to the graphic representations of reality, not recommended for viewing by Koslings).

With respect to these folks despising le Surrender Monkeys, I await the arrival of Koslings to whine about why these people don't despise the British for England's complicity in the Munich Accords.

Gordon? Nodrog? rightwrongside? Bring it on, mofos, I've got some more facts and truth to fuck with your candyassed reality. BTW, did Aisha and Sura show up for choir practice?

I'll say this only once, so listen carefully: I . . . never . . . had sex . . . with that woman, Hillary Clinton.

One of the guys at Powerline said Kerry reminded him of Thurston Howell III...I thought about it and decided he's right.

#185 ec marm

Nice shot!

Wow, from that website:

The difference is that the people on the left are part of the "reality-based community." When your world view is grounded in reality, it wouldn't make sense just to make things up, because making things up doesn't change the reality.

The "progressives" on the left wouldn't know reality if it rose up and bit them on the @$$.

The wing-nuts on the right, on the other hand, seem to have this idea that truth is malleable, and that you can change reality if you just shout your made-up version of it loud enough to drown out everyone else.

Wow again. Rathergate anybody? Although that site seems to insist that rathergate was not reality. So, that means they believe the documents were real? Doesn't that screw up the "reality-based" community they are talking about in the first paragraph?

Suppose they could post a few pictures with crowds of soldiers mobbing Kerry to get their picture taken with him?

... waiting.

Waiting?

Speaking of waiting, Kerry said in April of 2004 he would release his military records...

Did you guys read the Talking Points Cafe? The comments there about us is so far off that it is just unbelievable. They think they are based in reality but that we think truth is malleable...

That is interesting. I thought it was the other way around?

Well apologize as soon as Kerry Apologizes for every thing hes ever done to harm America

Does anybody think Kerry would have done anything like the following: Rummy

#198 AZfederalist 1/5/2007 05:21PM PST
Wow, from that website:

The wing-nuts on the right, on the other hand, seem to have this idea that truth is malleable, and that you can change reality if you just shout your made-up version of it loud enough to drown out everyone else.

Suuuure. It's the right who believe that reality is subjective; that your "truth" is just as valid as my "truth".

Projection, anyone?

it's off topic but very funny

http://humor.beecy.net/misc/new-car/

The New Car
I bought a new car a few days ago and returned to the dealer the next day because I couldn't figure out how the radio worked. The salesman explained that the radio was voice activated.

"Watch this!" He said "Nelson", and the radio replied "Ricky or Willie?"

"Willie!", he continued, and "On The Road Again" started blaring from the speakers.

Then he said, "Ray Charles!" and, in an instant, "Georgia On My Mind" began playing. I drove away happy and for the next few days every time I'd say, "Beethoven", I'd get beautiful classical music and if I said "Beatles" I'd get one of their songs.

Yesterday, a couple ran a red light and nearly wrecked my new car but I swerved just in time to avoid them. I yelled "Assholes!"

Immediately the French National Anthem began to play, sung by Jane Fonda and Barbara Streisand, backed up by Michael Moore and The Dixie Chicks, with John Kerry on guitar, Al Gore on drums, Dan Rather on harmonica, Barbara Pelosi on tambourine, Harry Reid on spoons, Bill Clinton on sax, and Ted Kennedy on scotch.

This is a great car!

John Kerry does not support, understand, nor does he have any friends in the United States Army Infantry.

#203 rickl

Projection, anyone?

Both the Western Left and the Islamists indulge in it quite heavily. One of many reasons why they are so chummy.

Deliberately and maliciously lying about Kerry’s mealtime companionship is the worst thing I have ever read on the internet

Sweet Jesus gordo... Your the weirdo guy, that continually goes to a frat party, completely unwelcome, shunned by your closest Friends.

or

Your the Casey weirdo that groups up McDonald-land play parties for children. either way you creep the fuck out of me amigo. your common sense is borderline lunacy. you sit there in your government subsidized basement doing drive-by comments to incite what? ...what the fuck-balls do you want?...A masochist is one that can, and will reveal self-induced dishonor and humiliation.. Ive read your posts gordo, and if john mark Carr don't get you off, then your in a league of your own.....

I'm sure this post just did the job for ya....Sick frigging freakshow!

/spit

Gordon is just pissed that after five years he has not been nominated for Idiotarian of the year. He figures that after posting utter nonsense for five years, while typing with his toes and, simultaneously, having his head up his ass, he deserves some award. Gordon has yet to learn the difference between being an anal-cephalic idiot and an officially recognized Idiotarian.

John freakin commie Kerry still owes an apology to the American troops and the rest of us citizens for being the traitor he is.

I'd bet he got a less than honorable discharge from the military.

He really needs to be bitch slapped.

So, these people have conveniently forgotten the comments provided by the soldier who actually took the picture, as presented on Michelle Malkin's blog, I think it was? The eyewitness mentioned that soldiers were literally shunning him, and his meet and greet conference had such a low turnout that it was cancelled.

And a couple of bottomfeeding (why else talk to Kerry the Loser?) NYTimes reporters don't qualify as "troops" anywhere. Frankly, even had he been eating with troops, why is moving to another table in their cafeteria to have a private conference with them considered acceptable behavior? People have no manners, anymore.

The original story and commentary on it stands, despite the attempted spin by this Sargent person (who's undoubtedly delighted by the LGF-generated spike in his sitemeter!). No alternate reality than that originally presented has been revealed. When they can produce a photo of John Kerry surrounded by hundreds of adoring soldiers, or show a picture of hundreds standing in line for an autograph, then that would be something. But they won't be able to without some their usual resort to fauxtography....

Kerry sat at the reporters table because he cared about them. He felt their pain. Reporters never get a fair shake. Good ole Kerry will stand up for them.

Did anyone say that there were armed forces personnel in the area? The good senator did not notice as he was otherwise preoccupied with prospective voters.

209 gymnast ----

ya but still... hes creepy...

damn funny post gymnast.... ROTFLMAO

So, let's recap, Kerry wasn't shunned by the troops, he was just talking to reporters.

/Kerry traveled all the way to Iraq to talk to reporters?

Okay , let us give Mr Greg Sargent the benefit of the doubt and say that he is right in regards to the events surrounding that picture. That Mr John Kerry wanted a quiet spot to eat along with a couple of reporters or so and the picture that was taken that day was a misinterpretation of what really happened that day . Which would of course be the truth . But there are several problems with his explanation however valid they are .

1) Senator John Kerry went to Iraq to try to salvage his reputation among the US troops among other things due to his botched joke ( which I seriously doubt). If Senator Kerry was popular with the troops , the media would be all over it by now along with pictures of soldiers standing enthusiastically beside him .

2) If Senator Kerry wants to find a quiet spot to eat in the dining hall , he could had asked some military personnel to eat with him instead of some reporters and dine with them in peace . He could had even offered paying for their lunch as a token of his appreciation of their service and sacrifice . It would had help rehabilitate his image among the military personnel . Instead , the picture had established rightly or wrongly that he cared more about the media than the troops he professed to visit.

3) For the sake of argument , let us say that Greg Sargent was right , why did the reporters whom Senator John Kerry was dining with did not refute the picture nor the supposed story the day it came out from the right-wing blogs ? Hell , they were there with him, they could had said the witness was wrong and they have evidence to back them up . Their silence as well as the silence from John Kerry's office is positively deafening.

I have a hard time taking anyone seriously when they constantly use the word "wingers" to describe a group of people. Like there aren't leftwingers in the world?

John Kerry is a Fucking Asshole

#216, RepJ. The correct terminology when referring to left wing and left wingers to use the correct suffix or prefix.

For example:

Left wing shitbird

Shitbird left wingers

You can find a lot of truth and wisdom in the study of ornithology, observation of the birds and the use of proper terminology.

Methinks the time has come for Americans to remember this moment in history. Click link to understand. Pearl Harbor palls in comparsion.

[Link: www.gunstuff.com...]

What will it take for the John F'ing Kerrys of the world to see the threat our enemy shoves in our face on a daily basis?

It pisses me off to no end that the left leaning MSM refuses to remember the events of 9/11 and include them in their reports on the GWOT. Iraq is their goldmine to defeat the Bush administration concerning the GWOT but they exclude the events of 9/11 and they claim they are not biased! BDS taken to a new high and the public just eats it up!

GWB has many faults as POTUS, but his efforts against the GWOT is not one of them (IMHO).

If the story is bogus, then where are the pictures taken by the soldiers themselves showing them posing with the Senator?

I think I'll stick with the real story

(I was one of those who was in the gym at the same time), and he found himself eating breakfast with only a couple of folks who are obviously not troops.

What is amazing is Bill O'Reilly came to visit with us and the troops at the CSH the same day and the line for autographs extended through the palace and people waited for two hours to shake his hand. You decide who is more respected and loved by us servicemen and women!"

Why were they not lining up for Kerry?

Malkin will get the same reception as O'Reilly too. Kerry was [rightly] shunned because he's a pathetic dhimmi whore for the Islamofascist caliphate.

The Moonbats have debunked precisely nothing until they provide pictorial evidence that Lurch was surrounded by adoring masses.

I just thought that it was a funny picture. The libs act as if it was memogate.

from comments @Hot Air:

"My brother, who is in a senior leadership position, and dines in the Embassy mess where Mr. Kerry was photographed said to me, and I quote, “We all avoided him like the plague.”

Pretty much sums it up for me."

KelliD on January 5, 2007 at 4:49 PM

Hmm. Is it rutting season in the Leftist mind or something? Or will this be the year of flimsy excuses? First the AP, and now the JFK photo! I guess all that leftist bosses have to do is offer up some contrived wheedling and everyone falls into line, no matter how ridiculous and implausible it is!

Clicked on his sorry website. Boy those lefties sure are full of themselves "reality based" indeed. Not hardly. Here this lefties-98% of the troops hate you, your hero John F'ing Kerry and don't want your "support". Get a reality check yourselves. What a bunch of losers. Never aplogize for being right and correct.