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Anti-Military Screed at the Washington Post

Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 5:20:34 pm PST

Today’s ugly leftist anti-military rant is published by the Washington Post. And “anti-military” is no exaggeration in this case; as William Arkin spells out quite clearly, he believes that the raping, murdering, torturing US troops are lucky they aren’t being spat upon: The Troops Also Need to Support the American People. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)

This is in the Post’s “blog” section, which must be why the writing is so sloppy. Arkin skipped all those layers of journalistic oversight.

These soldiers should be grateful that the American public, which by all polls overwhelmingly disapproves of the Iraq war and the President’s handling of it, do still offer their support to them, and their respect.

Through every Abu Ghraib and Haditha, through every rape and murder, the American public has indulged those in uniform, accepting that the incidents were the product of bad apples or even of some administration or command order.

Sure it is the junior enlisted men who go to jail, but even at anti-war protests, the focus is firmly on the White House and the policy. We just don’t see very man “baby killer” epithets being thrown around these days, no one in uniform is being spit upon.

So, we pay the soldiers a decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead, defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are above society?

I can imagine some post-9/11 moment, when the American people say enough already with the wars against terrorism and those in the national security establishment feel these same frustrations. In my little parable, those in leadership positions shake their heads that the people don’t get it, that they don’t understand that the threat from terrorism, while difficult to defeat, demands commitment and sacrifice and is very real because it is so shadowy, that the very survival of the United States is at stake. Those Hoover’s and Nixon’s will use these kids in uniform as their soldiers. If I weren’t the United States, I’d say the story end with a military coup where those in the know, and those with fire in their bellies, save the nation from the people.

But it is the United States and instead this NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the price we pay for a mercenary - oops sorry, volunteer - force that thinks it is doing the dirty work.

No, it isn’t Markos “Screw Them” Moulitsas under a pseudonym.

William Arkin, the former “military affairs columnist” for the Los Angeles Times, has a first-class hard left pedigree, having also worked for the Institute for Policy Studies (an affiliate of the Workers World Party and International ANSWER), Greenpeace, the Natural Resources Defense Council, and Human Rights Watch—none of which, oddly enough, is mentioned in his biography page.

So this latest blast of hatred shouldn’t surprise anyone.

Previously at LGF:
Who Is William Arkin?
Connections

UPDATE at 1/31/07 5:33:37 pm:

Others blogging about this disgraceful article:
Hot Air: WaPo blogger to U.S. troops: Be thankful we don’t spit on you, mercenaries
Media Blog: WaPo’s Arkin Slams U.S. Troops
BLACKFIVE: A hearty F*** You to William Arkin
OPFOR: Fallen

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1 soccerdad  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:21:44pm

gosh dang PIG! these people really piss me off!

2 mattm  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:22:53pm
3 Mortis  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:23:20pm

What a freaking tool.

4 brandonf  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:25:44pm

Liberals are a much bigger threat to us than Islam . Think about the damage Liberalism has done to this country in the last 50 years. Without it 9/11 would never have occured since those people wouldn't have been here under the liberal guise of multiculturalism in the first place.

Death to LIberalism!

5 troonbop  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:25:54pm

The ultimate expression of lefty whine - he's the one that's suffering!

6 Sol Roth  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:25:59pm

I can't read this collectivist blither without getting sick. Don't know how you manage it Charles.

7 salaami  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:26:31pm

Apparently the blog isn't checked for grammar and punctuation.

8 lockednloaded  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:27:28pm

This soldier asks... with "supporters" of the military such as this, who needs genocidal islamo-fascists as an enemy?

9 Bill Amos  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:27:32pm

I urge Mr Arkin to move to an Islamic country and then tell us how much better things are over there.

What beheadings ? Not like the [bigoted word]s dont do something ugly every once in awhile.

10 Cognito  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:27:39pm
Through every Abu Ghraib and Haditha, through every rape and murder, the American public has indulged those in uniform, accepting that the incidents were the product of bad apples or even of some administration or command order.

Ah yes, the generosity of the American people, believing that most of its soldiers aren't rapists and murderers.

11 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:28:00pm

Thanks for posting a thread on this Charles.

Whole new levels of sneering condescension

I surmised on the previous thread this would not go over well. No doubt the tinfoil hat crowd will circle the wagons and claim his freedom of speech is being threatened.

12 Teacake!  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:28:05pm

Actually I wouldn't mind us getting out of there as long as we wiped mecca and iran off the map first, and send all the malcontents around the globe back to their homelands.

13 SlartyBartfast  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:29:44pm
So this latest blast of hatred shouldn’t surprise anyone.

I sure was surprised! It's difficult to grasp the depth of depravity that obviously possesses this...this...professional journalist. Somehow, my command of the language is insufficient to describe my outrage!

Though, somehow I feel some small satisfaction in imagining Arkin visiting the troops....

14 samhein  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:31:05pm

What amenities is this guy talking about? Many of the soldiers had to have things shipped from home that the military DIDN'T supply and should have. What about a few years back with the bad body and vehicle armour (which I think was corrected)?

Oh yeah. The average soldier is certainly living a life of luxury over there.

15 maddogg  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:31:28pm

Is it any wonder I'm a maddogg? I hate creeps like this scum siphoning maggot worse than jihadis.

16 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:31:47pm

BTW, read the comments at the WaPo site. This jerk is being righteously shredded.

17 bubbasbbq  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:32:27pm

A glittering example of the diversity embracing peace loving left. Ever notice how THEY are always the angry ones ranting about how everything that isn't them sucks?

If it wan'st for the military, this jabroni would be working his fine self off half to death in some Russian Gulag.

18 jroberson  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:33:17pm
Apparently the blog isn't checked for grammar and punctuation.

Exactly. This guy is mercenary for leftists stupidity.

The left grows more brazen with every breath. Guys like this, marxist weasels with a greased-up degree, dare speak of a coup? Would this sissy know how to fire a weapon? If there is a revolution, this guy should get the first sentence on America's new lunar penal colony.

Anyone see that Code Pink Moonbat last night on Scarborough get her ass handed to her on a fine silvered plate?

19 vero  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:33:54pm

I am thinking he needs to be enbedded with the troops. Kind of odd that one so out of touch with the troops, has never spent anytime with them.

Not that any military man would risk one day with that scum.

20 Render  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:34:22pm

Arkin is flat out lying.

He, and his little commie buddies, have been spitting on US troops since before OIF even started. They still are. They've been spitting on those troops since the late '60s.

===

William Arkin, this is a personal message to you...

If I catch you spitting on any American soldier, I'll pull your tongue out and tie it around your head.

PROMISE,
R

21 Ma Sands  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:34:42pm

OT :)
Fighting a “small” battle (final chapter yet to come) :

From: webmaster
Friday, January 26, 2007 2:35 PM
To: Customer Relations
Subject: Customer Satisfaction Survey

Name: Ma Sands
Comments? Questions?:

Please heed, as I do believe one of your gas station sites is perpetrating a discourtesy to the people of this nation, the United States: The site in question is the gas station at (such & such st., town, etc.) Two United States flags, in quite poor condition, faded and torn and ragged, are displayed at that site, one at the head of each of the two driveways. I was conversing this past weekend with a colonel of the United States Air Force, at a base inTexas, concerning this matter (my son married his daughter on Sat. :) ......and he did tell me it is a matter of courtesy to one's nation's people, to display the nation's flag in a goodly manner. I spoke earlier this week with the Somalian attendant within the store on the site, and he said he would contact the company....but the bedraggled flags still remain in place. Please, will you send out the order to promptly remove the poor flags, to dispose of them properly....and, so hopefully, install some new, good, fresh, strong ones? :) It would be such a strong statement of standing solidly with your host country in these troubled times. sincerely, Ma Sands

From: Adv. Customer Relations Representative
Monday, January 29, 2007 4:51 PM
To: Ma Sands
RE: Customer Satisfaction Survey

We have contacted our District Office and they will be handling this matter with the owners of this station. Thank you for bringing this important customer service issue to our attention.

From: Ma Sands
Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:43 AM
To: Adv. Customer Relations Representative
Subject: Thank you! :)

Thank you! :) Both for responding, and for acting on the issue. My son is a teacher at the charter high school down the road from that station in question.....and I had just asked him to give me the contact information to the school’s civics teacher, hoping to have that teacher take that issue on, as a project with his class.... :) I am so glad that won’t be necessary -- for, with you people handling it directly, the proper result should come about much more quickly. Thank you so much.
sincerely,
with great love for the God of our country :),
Ma Sands

From: Ma Sands
Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:30 AM
To: Adv. Customer Relations Representative
Subject: ....flag not quite completely cared for.......

Dear Helen,
Driving past that gas station in question early this morning, I was at first so glad to find that both of the bedraggled flags had been removed. Then I realized that one of them had merely been pulled up, pole and all, and dropped, crumpled, into the dirty snow.
If you could give me the contact information for the district office you mentioned, I could contact them directly.......but, if it is not your policy to do so, then, here is a bit of information that may help them in dealing with the sad situation:
When I went into the station’s store, week before last, I asked the attendant what country he came from; Somalia, in 1989, was the reply. Then I asked him if he had become a citizen of this country, and the reply was, no, he has been eligible for nine years but has not taken the time to do so. I am wondering if perhaps that lack of desire to truly belong here, yet partaking in the benefits of the freedoms here, could be a part of why the man doesn’t seem to realize the disrespect he is perpetrating by his handling of this country’s flag.....? I would hate to think he is doing it on purpose.....
sincerely,
Ma Sands
22 brandonf  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:35:28pm
23 Ma Sands  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:35:53pm

Rest of battle, to date:

From: Adv. Customer Relations Representative
Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:20 PM
To: Ma Sands
RE: ....flag not quite completely cared for.......

This is terrible.....we will be taking care of this. Thanks for giving us this additional information.
24 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:36:09pm

Chances are if he is ever embedded with a unit in Iraq, he will have an unfortunate accident.

25 Ginn  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:36:11pm

There you have it, the unvarnished truth about how some people "feel" about our troops.

Those people, the anti-war "protesters" during the late 60's and early 70's took it a step further spitting on our troops as they came home in the airports.

Please don't let this happen again.

26 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:37:09pm

These soldiers need to SHUT UP!

Don't they know what Cindy Sheehan, Rosie O'Donald, and Barbara Boxer have laid down as law?

ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE A PERSONAL STAKE IN THIS WAR CAN COMMENT....NOT THOSE IDIOTS...STUK EN IRA....

....oh wait never mind......

Well off to my code pink meeting now....

War is Over
(if you want it)

27 Cognito  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:37:26pm

Actually, on further reflection, I'm grateful for this little gem. It's an unpolished look at the leftist mind, without all the calculations and considerations of how best to obscure the truth: They don't just disbelieve in the war. They don't just not support the troops. They don't like soldiers as people.

Toward the end he says the soldiers must be -- must be! -- naive. Which is a polite way of saying they're stupid.

28 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:38:41pm

Hewitt covered this on his show just before the top of the hour.

29 storagemanager  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:38:49pm
But it is the United States and instead this NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the price we pay for a mercenary - oops sorry, volunteer - force that thinks it is doing the dirty work.

These brave Men and Women suit up every day to keep you safe and free to write the crap you write so other American hating evil little fools can read it.You grow fat and stay safe while America's children die in combat to keep haters free....What a country....you need to be shipped to Allah land.

30 maddogg  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:39:35pm

#25 Ginn

Knowing my brother, I would have to say any moonbat who spits on him would have a 100% chance of making a guest appearance on Discovery Health's "Plastic Surgery; Before and After".:)

31 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:39:55pm
We just don’t see very man “baby killer” epithets being thrown around these days, no one in uniform is being spit upon.


Really?
Iraqi War Vet & Amputee Joshua Sparling Talks About Getting Spit At & Flipped Off at Peace Rally (Video) (hat tip : Terp Mole)
see also...Vietnam Redux - Radical Left Goes After US Soldiers, Again

32 Cartman  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:40:07pm

I say we pass out mug shots of this POS at Walter Reed, and then forcibly march his sorry, filthy ass through each and every ward.

33 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:41:33pm

.

when the American people say enough already with the wars against terrorism

Well, for now what I have to say is enough with the old marxist-leninist whores and gigolos.

What about that ?

34 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:41:39pm

Perhaps the Washington Post will have to trot out the "British mosque" excuse:

"We just rented our blog out to this Arkin guy, we had no idea that he would say stuff like that..."

35 Blackacre  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:43:09pm

What a foul creature.

36 shug  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:43:23pm

Look at his pic

He looks just like I'd imagined

37 storagemanager  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:43:59pm

They would not post my comment....scared of truth...they should be.

38 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:44:11pm

A column Hewitt wrote back in 2003

WHO IS WILLIAM ARKIN?

For starters, he is the scribbler who launched the assault on Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin a week ago by providing NBC with tapes of Boykin speaking in churches, and then followed with a Los Angeles Times op-ed that accused the general of being "an intolerant extremist" and a man "who believes in Christian 'jihad'" (Arkin later admitted on my radio program that Boykin never used the term "jihad").

Arkin also wrote that "Boykin has made it clear that he takes his orders not from his Army superiors but from God--which is a worrisome line of command." This statement, like the "jihad" quotation appears to be pure fiction.

And Powerline:


The Peril of Newspaper Blogs...

...is that a reporter might say what he actually thinks before an editor catches up with him and makes him stop. A case in point: William Arkin writes on "national and homeland security" for the Washington Post. This morning, in his blog titled Early Warning on the Post's website, Arkin wrote a post that has to be read to be believed. Titled "The Troops Also Need to Support the American People," the post comments on an NBC program in which soldiers expressed dismay at the lack of support for their mission manifested by some people back home. Arkin appears to take the position that the U.S. military is not worthy of the nation that it protects.

39 floridaboy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:45:43pm

that made my blood boil, he makes it sound like our troops are on vacation! decent wages...pfft, amenities! i'd like to amend him with a foot up his ass!

40 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:46:21pm

.

mercenary - oops sorry, volunteer

teachers, university professors, journalists, actors, unions...

41 Lorenska  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:47:00pm

Oh
My
God

"Speechless" is not a word my friends or family would ever ascribe to me, but speechless I am at the moment...or at least at a loss for words that a lady such as myself will use in mixed company. Every sentence of this vitriol brought a fresh wave of "WTF?" from my lips, and aside from the obvious "HOW DARE YOU speak this way of men who fight and die so that you can be free to spew your hate?" argument, I got stuck on the following:

So, we pay the soldiers a decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way,

....

Excuse me? We pay them a decent wage? Military families are on welfare all over this country, going into hock and living hand to mouth because they are paid a PITTANCE to risk their lives for us. Housing and medical care? Oh, how kind of us to pay to stitch up the wounds they suffer as they protect us so we can lie in our soft beds at night. My husband is a 20 year Navy vet, who thankfully never saw true combat (except on the streets of Beirut and Somalia), and after 20 years of serving his country, his retirement pay barely covers our utilities. As for medical care, don't get me started, it's like something out of the third world, trying to get him a simple medical appt.

Oh, and 'obscene amenities'? Are you GD kidding me? Is this a joke? They don't even have the body armor they need to stay alive, they dont have the ammo or the tanks or the freaking uniforms they need half the time, exactly what 'obscene amenities' are we referring to? The occasional extra pair of socks they're allowed to have? A piece of mail from home? I am literally so mad I'm crying, why isn't this 'man' (and I use that term OH SO loosely) being brought up on treason charges? Can you imagine such a piece being written about our boys as they landed at Normandy? I suppose during Vietnam it would have been tolerated (or cheered), but I thought everyone has since determined that the treatment our soldiers received during and after that war was wrong....guess that was only decided by those of us with hearts, brains, and common sense. Have to go hug my husband now.

42 Idle Drifter  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:47:07pm

William Arkin is the true face of Socialism that wants to take this country. He calls are service men and women mercenaries as if he expects that they lay down their lives for free like a good little red soldier. He seems to almost expecting the soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen to be grateful that their not constantly spat upon by some delusional trust-fund baby. I actually do wish these people would come out nationally and get their comeuppance from the vast majority of Americans that don’t tolerate this shit of broad stroking OUR service men and women as murders and rapists. William Arkin is the very parasites that live of the sacrifice of others to spread their hate filled messages. He’s lucky he lives in a civilized country tolerant of even the most asinine free speech or else he would have been beaten to death, lynched, or killed by various other methods of murder. Simply, Arkin is a coward

43 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:47:13pm

The troops are feeling abandoned by the country they're fighting for....
U.S. Soldiers in Iraq --- 'If they're gonna support us, support us all the way.'

NBC Nightly News story on US troops in Iraq, who are frustrated by American criticism of the Iraq war:

"If they're gonna support us, support us all the way."

"[The Apache Company] worries their country may be abandoning the mission they died for."

It's a disgrace the way we (as a country) are abandoning them.

44 storagemanager  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:47:47pm
#39 floridaboy 1/31/2007 05:45PM PST

that made my blood boil, he makes it sound like our troops are on vacation! decent wages...pfft, amenities! i'd like to amend him with a foot up his ass!

He makes our troops out to be hired killers.....he is a coward and and a bug.

45 coulterclone  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:48:01pm

What a piece of crap. Should we be surprised though?

Confession: I'm not sorry in the least little bit that Molly Ivins is dead. In the obits it's saying that she's famous for calling George Bush "Shrub". I guess that's considered "funny" among the LLL. I'd be famous for calling her a "miserable sorry ass c*nt" except there are 10,000,000 people in line ahead of me who already did. May the stupid sow rot in hell.

46 verger  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:48:11pm
"These soldiers should be grateful that the American public"

No, moron, the American public (and the rest of the western nations) should be grateful to the soldiers.

47 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:48:45pm
William Arkin, the former “military affairs columnist” for the Los Angeles Times, has a first-class hard left pedigree, having also worked for the Institute for Policy Studies (an affiliate of the Workers World Party and International ANSWER), Greenpeace, the Natural Resources Defense Council, and Human Rights Watch—none of which, oddly enough, is mentioned in his biography page.

No mention?

Strange. I can't understand why.

48 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:49:07pm

.

If I weren’t the United States

This idiot can't even write.

He is the United States ?

Forgot an "in" ?

Go back to school, idiot.

49 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:49:34pm

#43 addendum....
That;s the NBC segment that William Arkin mentions at the begining of his article....

I've been mulling over an NBC Nightly News report from Iraq last Friday in which a number of soldiers expressed frustration with opposition to war in the United States.
50 Timbre  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:49:57pm

I'm reading all the comments. I am certain they are running 99.9 to 1 in support of our military and against some fool named William M. Arkin.

51 MARKX  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:50:34pm

His latest book (I will not link it)

Code Names:
DECIPHERING U.S. MILITARY PLANS, PROGRAMS
AND OPERATIONS IN THE 9/11 WORLD

The Code Names Dictionary: An alphabetical listing of more than 3,000 code names. The emphasis will be on names that are current since the end of the Cold War, are of historical importance, and are not otherwise in the public domain.

Code Names "lays bare for the first time much of the secret infrastructure of defense and intelligence today." -- Steven Aftergood in Secrecy News

WHY IS THIS PIECE OF $HIT NOT IN GUANTANOMO?

52 new_tommy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:50:36pm

With Democrats in Congress, the mask is beginning to come off.

53 DavidJSchwartz  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:52:11pm

This is in the Post’s “blog” section, which must be why the writing is so sloppy. Arkin skipped all those layers of journalistic oversight."

Oh, the NYT has any "journalistic oversight" at all?

Top New York Times editors quit

Reporter: 'Overwhelmed with joy' about resignations
From Rose Arce and Shannon Troetel
CNN
Monday, March 1, 2004 Posted: 3:29 AM EST (0829 GMT)

• May 1: Jayson Blair, a reporter, resigns from The Times after the newspaper finds fraud, plagiarism and inaccuracies in 36 of his 73 articles.

• May 22: A committee of 20 Times staffers and two outside news executives is named to review newsroom policies in what the Times calls "a low point in the 152-year history of the paper."

• May 28: Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Rick Bragg resigns after the newspaper suspends him over a story that carried his byline but was reported largely by a free-lancer.

• June 5: Boyd and Raines, the paper's top two editors, step down, having been the focus of much of the criticism, especially for allowing Blair to cover the Washington-area sniper case when the Times' metropolitan editor had raised strong concerns about the reporter's trustworthiness.
Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK (CNN) -- The New York Times Thursday announced the resignations of its two top editors -- the latest bombshell in a journalistic melodrama since a rising star reporter was forced to resign for plagiarism.

Executive Editor Howell Raines and Managing Editor Gerald Boyd had been particularly criticized for their roles in the scandal surrounding the reporting of 27-year-old Jayson Blair, who quit the paper May 1.

Blair resigned after a Texas newspaper questioned whether he had plagiarized a story about the family of missing U.S. soldier Jessica Lynch. The Times ran a multipage self-examination of how the reporter managed to stay on staff after multiple errors and editors' suspicions that his reporting was fraudulent.

[Link: www2.cnn.com...]

54 Live4Truth  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:52:21pm

The sad thing is, that this guy gets to enjoy the benefits of what others sacrifice, fight, and even die for.

One has to wonder: Why does he live in the U.S.? Why not live in a country which more closely fits his outlook on life (including the military)? How about France?

55 ronaldusmagnus  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:52:28pm

Doucheful Idiot

56 TMF  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:52:41pm

Molly Ivins died

Oh well

57 big L  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:52:56pm

I am with Blackfive-- a hearty F*ck you to Arkin.

58 maddogg  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:53:49pm

#45 coulterclone

May the stupid sow rot in hell.

Ditto

59 floridaboy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:55:18pm

#41 Lorenska

you pretty much gave the longform for what i wanted to say myself, i'm just too pissed to make it coherent!

THANK YOU!

60 markx  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:55:54pm

#56 TMF

Careful, dude.

But to quote the Great One, Bob:

And if my thought-dreams could be seen
They'd probably put my head in a guillotine
But it's alright, Ma...

61 jroberson  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:56:24pm
I thought everyone has since determined that the treatment our soldiers received during and after that war was wrong

Wrong. History is written by the victors. If you never noticed, the Left has had one long, continuous string of victories since after WWII. They write the literature. They produce the movies (Michael Mann anyone?). They craft our music. They innoculate America's children from sanity and feed their minds paranoid delusions labeled history. They, neo Marxists calling themselves liberals, won, the other side lost and was thus left to squabble over the remains of America's patriotism, decency, honor and courage. They won their revolution.

Now, they want another.

62 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:56:28pm

Arkin...

America needs to ponder what it is we really owe those in uniform.


Ungrateful fuck.

63 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:56:29pm

Please email us to report offensive comments register your disgust.

64 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:56:36pm

ma sands

Good for you. It takes time, but it's so important.

I was in a public rec room at our local college playing bridge with several of my students, and the playoffs were on. When the National Anthem came on, I stood up--and so did every one of my students. Some of the college kids must have thought we were strange, but i will NEVER sit during our National Anthem or when our flag passes as long as my legs can hold me up

65 Render  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:56:56pm

It's well past the time to bring back the punishments of Banishment and Exile.

If they hate it here so much, then they should go.

FAR
AWAY,
R

66 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:57:02pm

Dangit! Screwed that one up.

You get the gist.

67 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:57:33pm

mailto:blogs@washingtonpost.com

68 easy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:57:34pm

Lorenska

Oh, and 'obscene amenities'? Are you GD kidding me? Is this a joke? They don't even have the body armor they need to stay alive, they dont have the ammo or the tanks or the freaking uniforms they need half the time, exactly what 'obscene amenities' are we referring to?


I understand your passon but we need to be accurate as well. They are not under equipped. I helped my son pack his gear almost 2 years ago.

69 mich-again  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:57:50pm
the American public has indulged those in uniform...

Don't you dare include me in your stupid rant you idiot.

70 coulterclone  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 3:59:17pm

And he sits in his comfortable home somewhere in Vermont conjuring up this excrement because he's too much of a coward to slither outside and see what's really happening in the light of day. May his septic tank overflow and swallow him up one day--soon.

71 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:00:04pm

#65 render

Have you ever read "The Man Without a Country"? It's a terrific short story.

72 John Galt  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:01:01pm

Our communist friend did stumble onto a very important point. As citizens, this country continues to exist at our collective discretion. This includes the discretion of citizen-soldiers who have the ability to do more than simply wax philosophic about something like a coup, should the day ever come when these citizen soldiers feel they are left with no other recourse to restore the Constitution.

I would not want to be William Arkin on that day.

73 aqvik  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:01:05pm

I wrote this guy per Black Five's request at warkin@igc.org.

Be polite. Be pointed. Convey in reasoned, rational tones that you are embarrassed that you and he are members of the same species.

Presumably.

74 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:01:39pm
"If they are mercenaries, then I, sir, am a mercenary professor, and you, sir, are a mercenary general. We are served by mercenary physicians, we use a mercenary lawyer, and we get our meat from a mercenary butcher."

--Milton Friedman (1912-2006), to Gen'l William Westmoreland (1914-2005), on the all-volunteer force, 1969

(recalled by McNug a few days ago)

Arkin's no mercenary, he's a parasite.

75 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:01:53pm

I can just see this slimy piece of shit going back in and editing that piece. Just that like twerp from E&P.

76 vero  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:02:06pm

I wonder hwo many times his name is now on the Dead Pool Game list.

Not that I have ever played.

77 Dar ul Harbarian  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:03:03pm

I nominate William Arkin for 2007 idiotarian of the year!

78 RightLogic[deleted]  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:03:12pm
79 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:03:43pm

So Conservatives.....we actually going to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT....yet?......

It really won't be all that tough....look how quick they are to surrender & quit all the time....they just haven't had a decent rebuttal from us yet.

80 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:04:05pm

I think Arkin crossed a boundary here and bit off more vehement enemies today than he can possibly chew in a lifetime. The Post is going to take a lot of [expletive deleted] for this. I'll be amazed if he keeps his job.

/even more amazed if he doesn't end up losing all his teeth and then some sooner rather than later

81 phillygirl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:04:46pm

Jamiewearingfool said:
BTW, read the comments at the WaPo site. This jerk is being righteously shredded.

I don't think the comments about Arkin's blog on the WaPo site are at all harsh enough. As a Washingtonian, I am embarrassed by Arkin's comments. He doesn't have a clue. Another useful idiot employed by the Post.

I agree with a previous Lizard comment - send him to a Middle Eastern country like Iran, say, and let him see if his anti-government views will be accepted for print. At the very least he would be imprisoned. He might have his writing hand chopped off, or he might even be sent to the gallows.

Our brave soldiers put themselves in harm's way every day to protect our freedoms. This fool thinks he is "safe" from terrorists. What a complete jerk! As a subscriber to the Post, I think its time for my Letter to the Editor.

82 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:05:01pm

#78,

Charles doesn't like it if you do that...

(Just letting you know so when you're deleted and or banned, you'll know why.)

83 Ma Sands  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:05:23pm

#64 goddessoftheclassroom
Yeah.....I'd beard the Somalian guy in his den, mine own self, but.....I don't know if he's Islamic.....and I guess I 've got a bit of Islamophobia.... :)

84 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:05:24pm

Mr. Arkin has every right to express his opinion, no matter how vile we think it is.

However, WE have the right to respond to that. To criticize is not to censor.

Of course the irony is that Mr. Arkin's rights are protected by the blood of the troops he insults.

85 DavidJSchwartz  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:05:28pm

Calling Arkin's writing "screed" is far too generous. To be frank, it is unintelligible doo doo.

86 shug  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:05:30pm

80 killian bundy

/even more amazed if he doesn't end up losing all his teeth and then some sooner rather than later

That will only help him in his extracurricular activities

87 m  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:05:50pm

Get 'em Ma Sands!

88 ted  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:06:30pm

I must admit we all have read some pretty vile stuff, but IMO I feel many lizards would agree with me this is probably the most vicious vile and disturbing piece from a psychotic mind I've ever seen.

89 M. Bensson-Levi  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:07:24pm

#71 goddessoftheclassroom

Have you ever read "The Man Without a Country"? It's a terrific short story.

A classic. The same fate applied today to the deserving would require an armada so vast that one could walk from deck to deck, circumnavigate the globe, and stay dry shod.

How you going BTW? Have your troubles passed?

90 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:07:46pm
91 LuckyDog  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:08:03pm

Is this guy trying to out-Kerry Kerry? I bet JFinK is mad as a wet hen that someone is infringing on his raping-merderinf-troops shtick.

92 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:08:04pm

I wonder why there are no trolls on this thread?

93 neverpayretail  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:08:32pm

I would not call this piece a "blast of hatred". Consider this statement;

These soldiers should be grateful that the American public, ..., do still offer their support to them, and their respect.


and this one;

I'll accept as well that they are young and naïve...


This strikes me as more a condescending blast of stupidity than hatred.

For the record, I support both the mission and the troops. The mission is honorable, and so are our people.

I am, however, wondering if the mission can succeed, give the fundamental flaws in Islam, and the fact that Islam is totally embedded in their culture and new constitution. Muslims are just not trained to think logically. They are trained to think Islamically, which is basically 180 out from logic.

94 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:08:36pm

I am normally subdued. (yeah...right).

Unless it's about Iran.

Someone needs to...stifle this man. I am REALLY tired of this crap.

First amendment or no first amendment. He needs a good right to the jaw.

95 brandonf  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:08:40pm
96 Ma Sands  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:09:05pm

#87 m

:)

97 RightLogic  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:09:13pm

#82 Dar ul Har

My apologies then but lets just say that Arkins comments have hit to close to home. The BS from the left is piling up to fast to be pumped and it starting to stink.

Charles, feel free to remove #78 if a retraction is in order.

98 brandonf  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:09:19pm

Anyone heard from mamawinger?

99 easy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:09:53pm

My comments on this article, on the previous thread, included references to piss, poop and puke. I think that about sums it up.

100 MisterCookie  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:10:36pm

Off-topic, but the slashdot using, tin-foil hat wearing losers at wikipedia have completely gone off the deep-end:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Look at the "In the News" section, states 300 people killed in a battle between Allied and insurgent forces. It fails to mention that 250 of those people were insurgents themselves.

101 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:10:55pm

I'm 47...don't move as welll as I used too.

But I'd have this freak down before he saw it coming.


Of course...I need to hit the bag a little ....man my hands got soft.

102 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:11:06pm

#88 ted

I agree--especially given his position at WaPo. At least now the "undecideds," swing voters, and those conservatives who stayed home to teach Republicans a lesson see exactly what they have wrought.

Please, Lord, we can set thing right in 2008 before too much damage is done.

(and did y'all see that Sen. Warner is backing the nonbinding resolution against the surge?_

103 rickl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:11:39pm

I, along with others, have said before that the Left will have to be crushed right here in America before we can get serious about defeating the Islamonazis.

I can't put my finger on it at the moment, but I've read (probably here) that Leftism is like AIDS in Western civilization and Islamofascism is an opportunistic infection. Without the leftist doctrines of multiculturalism, postmodernism, deconstruction, etc., Islamofascism wouldn't be able to make inroads into our culture.

104 NTropy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:12:01pm

I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the L3eft supports the military only as a works program, not as what we all would consider "military". They support the troops only for the health care, retirement benefits, loans, etc., etc. that the government provides for them. But God forbid they actually be sent into harm's way, especially at the behest of anybody who opposes them politically.

105 Ma Sands  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:12:05pm

#98 brandonf
I've been waiting on the edge of my seat.....stayed up all night on her behalf.....I've heard that after one of those, you're pretty groggy, and in quite a bit of pain.....I would guess it will be a while yet until we hear.....

106 DavidJSchwartz  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:12:05pm

#95 brandonf 1/31/2007 06:08PM PST

Another pathetic Liberal leader tucks tail.....

Olmert decides no Israeli response needed to Monday’s Eilat bombing which killed three Israelis "

Brilliant isn't he? Just offer up your innocents for slaughter, with impunity to your mortal foes.

Gee, I wonder why the Arabs think Israel's deterrent factor is weak.

107 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:13:04pm

#78

Janatorial Engineer notified.

You've already been warned, Rightlogic, so I'm not going to pile on.

108 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:13:09pm

78 RightLogic

I don't think that Mr. Johnson is going to hold anything against you for something you found on Google.


Good work by the way.

109 shug  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:13:19pm

william arkin is to a keyboard as ted rall is to a pencil

110 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:13:31pm

#98 brandonf
I haven't heard anything yet, I assume she's resting. Hopefuly we'll hear from her tomorrow.

111 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:14:34pm

#97,

My apologies then but lets just say that Arkins comments have hit to close to home.

I understand the impulse, though, having done something similar here myself once...

112 mayweed  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:14:34pm

This is one of the filthiest, most utterly disgusting article I have ever read. The man deserves to be tried for treason, and so does his editor. Even the most extreme loony-left publications in the UK would this twice before publishing this stuff.

113 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:14:42pm

98 brandonf

She was on last night.

i didn't ask her about her health.

114 Nat-X  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:14:53pm

America doesn't get it! At least not most of America.

You think this pussy got the shit beaten out of him by his platoon-mates? Hope so.

Semper Fi.

115 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:15:20pm

#89 M. Bensson-Levi

Yes, thanks be to heaven, everything was resolved better than I dared to hope. We're healing and moving forward together.

Ma Sands

WHAT'S UP WITH MAMA WINGER?

116 brandonf  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:15:43pm

103 rickl

Right on the money. Let's not let our disgust for the Islamists deter us from fighting our closest and most dangerous enemy: Liberalism.


106 DavidJSchwartz

Don't mean to be redundant but that is the liberal way of war. That is the way Bush has fought in Iraq for three years.

117 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:16:12pm
#108 scoreboard44

I don't think that Mr. Johnson is going to hold anything against you for something you found on Google.

When it's on Google, it's their problem. When it get's posted here, it become's Charles' problem.

/and he doesn't need more problems

118 Wendya  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:16:19pm

What a sorry piece of shit.

119 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:16:53pm

110 Killgore Trout

She go into surgery or something?

120 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:17:33pm

#113 scoreboard44
She mentioned last night that she was having a bone marrow biopsy today.

121 DavidJSchwartz  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:17:36pm

#100 MisterCookie 1/31/2007 06:10PM PST

Off-topic, but the slashdot using, tin-foil hat wearing losers at wikipedia have completely gone off the deep-end:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]"

Wikipdia is an open source forum that is available for anybody to edit.

That is, many people plant lies, distortions, and propaganda to futher their agenda/s.

It is not a reliable source for anything.

122 T. Jefferson  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:17:38pm

I wonder if this selfish, spoiled, ignorant little brat hates policemen and firemen also? Does this worthless cretin have any respect or gratitude for anyone or anything? Why do I get the feeling that maybe this person has never served in the military and is literally too ignorant to know that has no clue?

Sure looks to me like history is going full circle and we are going to repeat the mistakes of Vietnam without having learned one damn thing in the process. I wonder how many are going to die this time around?

123 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:17:52pm

#108, scoreboard44

I don't think that Mr. Johnson is going to hold anything against you for something you found on Google.

Well, he didn't get banned.

Charles is both beneficient and merciful. ;)

124 m  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:18:30pm

warkin@igc.org

^ definitely allowed.

125 brandonf  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:18:48pm

Olmert had the chance to crush Hezbolah and didn't do it. Where the hell is Shalit?

126 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:19:17pm

The comment I just sent to the Post in response to this trash:

My husband is currently serving in Iraq; this is his second tour for this conflict, his 6th tour in the Middle East. He owes you nothing, yet he risks his life day in and day out to protect your right to demean him and all those like him. When ever I come across such vile lies I get incensed. I rant. I rave. I tell him and he says "This is why I am here. Everyone, no matter what their latitude and longitude, ought to have the right to express their agreement or their disagreement with the actions of their government." He usually follows that up with a wish that the opinions be based in facts, but you can't have everything says he. In case you are unable to recognize it, that is honor, and you sir, are a far cry from honorable

.

127 buckeyeinflorida  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:19:25pm

Sad... Truly sad. I spent 20 years in the Air Force protecting his right to spout this shit... Please don't let me meet him in a dark alley (or anywhere)!

128 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:19:42pm

David:

the funny thing about Israel is.....when they are attacked, they do the least possible. Then when it doesn't effect the Non-Israeli/Arab/Muslims they think that "nothing will work". I see it differently. After bombing 20+ Jews, destroying an unoccupied home isn't enough (obviously! Hey, I wish it were but the Enemy sure doesn't)...so the answer is not to do NOTHING...but to do MORE.

An entire block maybe? Still not enough? An entire neighborhood. Still not enough? (OY), cut all power, still not enough?

And more than all of this...Israel MUST stop the "phakestinains" from getting WEAPONS...sheesh. If they did that, they could dismantle ALL checkpoints except for those on the "boarders".

Wrath for PM 5770

129 JustMyView  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:19:47pm

#51 MARKX

WHY IS THIS PIECE OF $HIT NOT IN GUANTANOMO?

Perhaps because he hasn't committed a crime?

130 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:20:23pm

As a Vietnam era vet, I remember taking a lot of grief being in the USMC. I've lived in Europe and experienced anti-Americanism. I volunteered for the US Army, as a doctor, after 911. On an R&R trip to Europe, from Iraq, in passing I was verbally assailed by a German youth, due to my appearance (We Yanks due stant out) and my haircut. The insults were followed by an expectoration. My wife can verify this.
In both the 60-70's and now, I lay the bulk of the blame on the doorstep of feel good, touchy feely liberal types, the fair weather, summer time patriots, who appear to dominate both the Left and the Democratic Party. In tours in Afghanistan and Iraq, I have seen soldiers exhibit professionalism despite their command
and the ROE. We need to change the ROE. If that doesn't happen, then just prayers for our troops and the country. CUZ IT'LL BE OVER! Due to my contacts, I can get everyone a good price on a prayer rug.

131 Sgt.Slappy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:20:40pm

I wonder if Arkin would accept my invitation to drop over for a cup of herbal tea.

...and by cup of herbal tea I mean righteous ass-kicking. Of course, he would need to pull his head out of his ass first so I don't damage my boots on his thick lumpy skull.

Sometimes these lefties, like the indignant children they are... need a real spanking.

132 rickl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:21:16pm
#102 goddessoftheclassroom
At least now the "undecideds," swing voters, and those conservatives who stayed home to teach Republicans a lesson see exactly what they have wrought.

Yeah, but I can emphasize with conservatives who simply couldn't hold their noses long enough to pull the "R" lever. The big-spending Republicans in Congress have no one to blame but themselves for their loss. And the Bush Administration's position on illegal immigration is simply disgraceful.

I voted straight Republican in November, but I wasn't terribly enthusiastic about it. I can understand principled conservatives who simply couldn't bring themselves to do it.

(That said, Republican supporters who voted Democrat to "send a message" were damn fools.)

133 John Galt  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:21:20pm

#84 goddessoftheclassroom

True. But our criticism should manifest itself in our purchase decisions, not merely in some electronic back-and-forth. Anyone on the board who generates a dime of revenue for the Washington Post or its advertisers while William Arkin is still employed is every bit the irredeemable drone we so often complain about on these boards.

134 M. Bensson-Levi  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:21:57pm

#115 goddessoftheclassroom

Glad to hear that.

" A righteous man, though he wanders paths dark and twisted, will always, find the proper way." ...Goethe...Faust...close enough, anyway.

Good Luck.

135 caliredst8r  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:22:16pm

If this fine gentleman is that pained and horrified having the US military protecting his freedoms then he has the freedom to move somewhere else. Venezuela is so fine this time of year, and I hear Iran is a pacifist's wet dream.

136 attentionseeker  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:22:40pm

Hey, did WaPo hire Michael Crook of Forsake (or whatever) the Troops fame?
Looks exactly like everything that swollen rectal wart ever wrote.

137 brandonf  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:22:45pm

128 WrathofG-d

correct. Nothing short of apocolyptic destruction will work. They know we are weak with the cancer of liberalism and use it against us.

138 illegal upchuck  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:23:10pm

#41 Lorenska

THANK YOU for stating what I was too late to. Shitbags like this Arkin character need to be strung up from the nearest light pole.

/severely pissed off.

139 LSD  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:23:20pm

William Arkin is a little bitch ...

140 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:24:00pm

Typical smug elitist prick,it seems every six months or so one of these assholes crawls out of their cesspool to either blog or editorialize about the military,or about how we took 9/11 too seriously/its all our own fault.blah,blah


FUCK YOU
some of us have had the good fortune to have known some very good people before they were taken.before their time,just for going to work.
Others have loved ones in harms way,in a god forsaken hell hole.People who VOLUNTEERED to serve their country,because they love it,and what it stands for.
arkin your kind will always be gnats in a world of giants
an annoyance and a bother,but in the big scheme of things truly insignificant.get back under your rock.

141 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:24:04pm

117 Killian Bundy

Yeah...but Gooogle won't post a lot of LGF's stuff.

I say...if it is acessible by Google...an address as such...and it's posted here...with what has happened on so many sites with this man's tripe...Charles cannot be responsible for something that is so easily accessible.

What was posted...his current phone number...and access point...is not the responsiblity of Mr. Johnson to edit.

Or so I don't think..since Charles Started it with the the info on the guy anyway, and where he worked.

142 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:25:32pm

It's been deleted. End of discussion.

143 rickl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:25:49pm

#132 me

"Emphasize" should have been "empathize".

144 scathach  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:26:21pm

Codger #130 - Thank you for your service and God Bless you and your.

As to this POS - God help us all.

145 m  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:26:38pm

#129 JustMyView
Yeah, lucky for him it's not illegal to be a dumbass.

146 mama winger  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:27:05pm

Who is he, this Arkin, that should care?

He is inconsequential to me. Less than meaningless. It is as if he has never lived.

A real man lives in my house. Real is good.

147 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:27:42pm

137 Brandon:

Its the difference between poking your enemy in the eye & knocking him out.

When you just poke him in the eye....you only make him more angry.

Need Historical Relevance to prove the point?: (I hope Olmert from Al-kadima is reading this).
The Phakestinians gave up their fight against the Hasimite Kingdome in "Black September" when the King of Trans-Jordan made it very clear that he wouldn't stand for their attempt to overthrow his government. (30k dead in a week I belive it was?)
Additionally, the Sunni and Shiites didn't try to overthrow Saddam.

148 m  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:27:59pm

{Mama Winger}!

:)

149 Ma Sands  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:28:13pm

#146 mama winger
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......you made it! :)

150 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:28:13pm

120 Killgore Trout


Man...she ...I didn't catch it.

Man....

151 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:28:21pm

Video of the Boston cartoon terror scare idiots....
Cartoon Net campaign creates Boston bomb scare

The video, which they shot (and I assume put on the web) themselves shows them assembling the devices and putting them on buildings, bridges and overpasses. This should make these idiots easy to catch.

152 scathach  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:28:24pm

Mama Winger - how are you doing?

153 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:28:27pm

146 Mama Winger:

Look above in this thread. Some peeps were worried about you.

154 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:29:32pm

#146 mama winger


MMMMMAAAAAAMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAA!

I thought....geez....you know...

God....

155 mama winger  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:29:32pm

#149 Ma Sands

I made it! Holy moly.

Thanks for the nice email :)

156 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:29:42pm

{MAMA WINGER}!

I just learned tonight about your procedure! I hope you're comfortable and doing well. Prayers being raised up for you as I type.

157 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:30:47pm

#146 mama winger


I was....man....I'm friggin tearing up..

158 mama winger  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:31:05pm

Doing good - had a bone marrow biopsy today. That's okay, I didn't need that hip anyway. :)

159 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:31:17pm

KILLGORE:

Um dude...this was all Boston P.D.'s fault. A complete overreaction. I would have identified these things on site. Anyone familiar with the Cartoon Network is very familiar with these guys.

There have been entire billboards with that design in Los Angeles for months. I think CN should have sent out a notice to the local authorities....(prudence)...but the police overreacted.

All CN is truly guilty of (if they didn't ok it before hand) is vandalism.

160 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:31:27pm

FUCK YOU, WILLIAM ARKIN.

161 shug  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:32:09pm

mama winger

whatever the test was for ( none of my business ) I pray the results are reassuring and for a speedy recovery!

from what I can tell, your typing skills and wit have made a complete recovery!

162 carbon footprint  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:32:11pm

Let's not let this sting.
Make a wrong into a right.

163 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:32:16pm

#158 mama winger

You have another one anyway...

(weak attempt at humor--how I admire your spirit!)

164 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:32:33pm

BTW, the comments are open at the WaPo link. Over 230 and counting.

I tried to trackback my link to it, but something isn't going through right.

165 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:32:42pm

#146 mama winger


God. You okay...or at least....still with us...or are you a GHOST.

166 mama winger  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:32:53pm

You guys are too good, too good to me. That's why guys like Arkin will never prevail. Bad sinks to the bottom. Good rises to the top.

I love LGF.

gotta go lay down a bit now - bb tomorrow if I can.

kisses

167 Mike C.  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:33:07pm

mama winger

I been out of touch for a bit. You okay ?

168 christheprofessor  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:33:43pm

I wonder how Arkin would have felt if he'd lost his sister, brother, son, etc. in the WTC...

Of course, he just might be moonbatty enough as the She-Hag to dance on the grave....

169 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:34:03pm

#159 WrathofG-d
Possibly but things have changed. You just can't hang wierd electronic devices on buildings and bridges anymore.

170 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:34:15pm

#166 mama winger

No more than you deserve for the friendship and support you've offered me during my very dark days.

171 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:34:23pm

160 MandyManners

Mandy...please...your language..

:)

MMMMMAAAAMMMMMAAAAAAA!

172 Mike C.  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:34:43pm

Crap ! Missed her.

173 RightLogic  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:34:49pm

While I momentarily forgot Charles' LGF prayer and went a little overboard, I vented on Arkin's WaPo blog site in the comment site (under a different pen name). Now I feel better.

174 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:35:04pm

#166 mama winger
I'm glad you checked in to let us know you're ok. I've been worried about you all day.

175 DavidJSchwartz  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:35:28pm

#128 WrathofG-d 1/31/2007 06:19PM PST

Is Olmert a walking somnambulist? You make excellent points all, no doubt.

Since when did he approve an Israeli policy of National Suicide?

When is enough, ENOUGH? And to go do the job against the Arabs that has been OVERDUE for over a Century.

You're right, Israel needs to hurt the Arabs where it affects them the most--take back Israel's lands that were given to them in peace--for starters.

A letter on key issues of the PLO and Israel, addressed to Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, was signed by Yasser Arafat on September 9, 1993. The letter says specifically that:

The PLO recognizes the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace and security.

The PLO accepts United Nations Security Council Resolutions 242 and 338

The PLO commits itself to the Middle East peace process... all outstanding issues ... will be resolved through negotiations

... the PLO renounces the use of terrorism and other acts of violence and will assume responsibility over all PLO elements and personnel in order to assure their compliance, prevent violations and discipline violators

... those articles of the Palestinian Covenant which deny Israel's right to exist, and the provisions of the Covenant which are inconsistent with the commitments of this letter are now inoperative and no longer valid

... the PLO undertakes to submit to the Palestinian National Council for formal approval the necessary changes in regard to the Palestinian Covenant.
Rabin gave a letter in exchange to Arafat, also dated September 9, saying:

... Israel has decided to recognize the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian people and commence negotiations with the PLO within the Middle East peace process"

[Link: www.palestinefacts.org...]

176 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:36:09pm
#146 mama winger

Who is he, this Arkin, that should care?

He is inconsequential to me. Less than meaningless. It is as if he has never lived.

They are trying desperately to get the Anti-War protesters out on the streets and take over colleges..1960s bullshit..
But it is not working..Nobody gives a shit for these Hippie Old Farts..
And just think,
Most of the Bastards will be dead in 10-15 years...

/I am looking forward to the year 2020...

177 brandonf  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:36:17pm

mamawinger is a hardcore lgf-er.

178 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:36:44pm

#151, Killgore Trout

[video of "guerilla" marketing in Boston]

"Stupid is as stupid does."

179 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:36:45pm

Luv ya, mama winger.

Everyone does. Even brandonf asked about you.

Just ribbing you, brandon. I read that little kerfuffle you two had the other day. Your inquiry was sincere.

And watch those early OTs, huh?

180 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:37:22pm

#159 wrath
totally agree,from what i saw,it looked like a light brite.(although,you should let someone from the city know what your doing,before pulling something like this.)
by the way wrath that clip was great,meatwad trying to cash a ck.later that episode is even funnier.

181 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:37:31pm

174 Killgore Trout

Is it just me..or has Mamawinger become the blog's MOTHER...


MMAAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

182 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:37:48pm
183 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:38:06pm

#166, mama winger

Stay strong.

184 brandonf  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:38:45pm

And watch those early OTs, huh?

What's that?

Yeah I came on too strong at first and owe all an apology for it. I have strong views on Bush but I realized we are all on the same team and need to show love.

185 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:39:59pm

I lost my mom...some four years ago.

and my Dad.

I love you MamaWinger...Please get better.

186 Dar ul Harbarian  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:40:01pm

Whoa, Blackfive!

I realize you spent a little time in uniform back in the 70's as an intel weasel and I can only assume that the Soviet's flipped you, removed your spine and balls and gave you a dumbass transplant, 'cuz your kind of sorry BS doesn't come naturally.

The dude with the 'tude giving it to Barkin' Arkin!

187 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:40:04pm

Mama rest well,all our best,always

188 Ma Sands  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:40:58pm

#181 scoreboard44
If I were BabbaZee, I'd give you some nice music to soothe you.... :)

189 illegal upchuck  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:41:25pm

{mama}

You have mail. So happy to see you. :)

190 Mormon Doc  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:42:17pm

I thought that people that hadn't served in the military weren't allowed to comment. I don't even have to look at his background to know he has never served. Had he done so he would know that the operative word in military service is SERVICE. The pay is lousy and the benefits are weak.

But we that SERVED did so for a purpose greater than ourselves. If the so-called "chicken hawks" shouldn't allowed to make military policy than the true "chickens" should not be allowed to speak at all.

191 christheprofessor  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:42:30pm

Mama Winger

Didn't realize you had "something done"... Prayers and all that.. ;)

How's the Little Winger?

192 tangonine  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:42:40pm

Blackfive rocks.

His response to this leftist nitwit drivel compelled me to purchase one of his t-shirts and support the guy. His blog is always on the money.

193 pegcity  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:42:56pm

well hes done, way to piss off every decent hard working American

194 scoreboard44  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:43:01pm

gotta go.

195 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:43:27pm

correction - my entry due s/b do
#145 m - Thank you.

#146 mama w - Rather if being an idiot, stupid, etc., were a capital crime, this guy would be on Death Row.

Until we stop the Catch and Release, nice guy approach, I don't see things getting better. The 7 steps before firing are ridiculous. Why, for instance, are we even detaining the Irani agents in Iraq versus treating them as foreign born, imported terrorists, just like al qaeda? We probably should have shot them or, at least, given them a trip to Club Gitmo. What's in it for us? The respect of the Arab World? LOL/sarc

196 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:43:39pm

Good night, dear Lizards. We'll make it through.

197 squarepeg  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:44:07pm
the former “military affairs columnist” for the Los Angeles Times

WHAT?!

I thought I was beyond shock. I would have sworn this was some MSM wannabe of some sort -- some bitter high school teacher or whatever the hell it is those kos kidz do for a living.

Such ignorance is beyond belief.

I'm off to submit comments of support on as many military blogs as possible.

198 RTLM  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:44:57pm

Sec State under Rodham-Clinton.
I'd say he's pretty lucky too

199 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:45:30pm

#184 brandonf

Sorry, dude. You misunderstood me (shouldn't have combined two unrelated comments - my bad).

It wasn't about your kefuffle. That $#!+ happens all the time. Just providing a friendly reminder about OT (re: your #22) posts early in a thread. Although sometimes it's absolutely necessary, when we're vehemently raking some POS moonbat over the coals [mm... barbecued moonbat] for something he most certainly deserves, your post will simply not be recognized, and it some cases - and I'm totally guilty of this - it will throw off the thread.

Call it "threadiquette," noam sayin'?

200 JustMyView  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:46:23pm

#45 coulterclone

Confession: I'm not sorry in the least little bit that Molly Ivins is dead. In the obits it's saying that she's famous for calling George Bush "Shrub". I guess that's considered "funny" among the LLL. I'd be famous for calling her a "miserable sorry ass c*nt" except there are 10,000,000 people in line ahead of me who already did. May the stupid sow rot in hell.

Wow! Ivins was tough on Bush, but I think she pretty much stuck to his politics. I'm fairly certain she never used this kind of language to refer to him.

201 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:47:06pm

I've been looking for a new phrase to replace "stupid cocksucker" when referring to my ex. It is "Billy Arkin."

202 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:47:15pm

Best wishes Mama winger.


=======================

OK, I see now what was deleted in 78 has now been added at that site.

I do not condone posting his address.

203 christheprofessor  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:47:16pm

#197 squarepeg

Your mistake is assuming they hire people familiar to military affairs (e.g., veterans) to write tor them. If they could get away with it, they'd hire Hanoi Jane and Bill Clinton as military correspondents....

204 Maximu§  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:47:59pm

So, we pay the soldiers a decent wage

Decent wage? I let the Army after 4 years because the pay was lousey. Just when I think the Liberals can't sink any lower, the William Arkin's of the world prove me wrong.


Mama Winger, please get well.

205 stevesturm  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:48:12pm

cmon guys, you're surprised that guys like this exist? that guys like this hate our military so? that guys like this have paying gigs with the MSM?

I'm not... well, maybe a little that he let his guard down... or that the Post failed to monitor the asylum... but I'm certainly not surprised at him or his (lack of) thinking.

Of course, tomorrow (if not already), he'll be the toast of the left....

206 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:48:41pm

#159,

Doesn't matter to me if the police overreacted. I'll bet a jury of Bostonians will find that the chaos that resulted was a reasonably foreseeable consequence of the ad agency's "guerilla theater."

Don't forget that two of the four planes hijacked on September 11 originated at Boston Logan.

207 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:48:42pm

#188 Ma Sands


If I were BabbaZee, I'd give you some nice music to soothe you.... :)

Allow me.

208 mich-again  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:49:25pm

Really this guy is only preaching to the moonbat choir. A majority of them think that way, but most are smart enough to not post something so vile in a major newspaper webblog. So rather than try to censor the idiot, I say use his post as a litmus test. Do you agree with him or not.? Good question for the whole 2008 DNC field. Oh I'm sure every single serious candidate would denounce it on the record, and that just might turn off just enough L3 voters from voting at all to swing the election.

Sun Tzu said to defeat an enemy, first divide him. I say use this tripe to drive a wedge in the heart of "Run-DNC". We have to.

209 cavy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:49:57pm

#15 maddogg 1/31/2007 05:31PM PST

Is it any wonder I'm a maddogg? I hate creeps like this scum siphoning maggot worse than jihadis.

Airheads like Arkin ARE JIHADIS ... only in a "different uniform"!

210 brandonf  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:50:01pm

199 Noam Sayin'

gotcha.

Still getting my sea legs here. I did think about the fact that it was off topic. Thanks.

211 shug  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:50:02pm

obviously, many people saw this guy's phone number ( here ) or where it is now at the wapo comments link.

out of curiosity, has anybody called it?

212 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:50:10pm
213 shug  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:50:31pm

202 JWF

I agree with you

214 Doss  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:50:36pm

A letter to Arkin's soulmate, rotten-to-the-core Canadian journalist Noreen Golfman:

Dear Noreen,

I am so sorry to hear about the interruption to your holiday cheer. You say in your column that it all started when the CBC ran a story on some “poor sod” who got his legs blown off in Afghanistan.

The “poor sod” in question, Noreen, has a name and it is Cpl. Paul Franklin. He is a medic in the Forces and has been a buddy of mine for years. I had dinner with him last week in Edmonton, in fact. I will be sure to pass on to him that his lack of legs caused you some personal discomfort this Christmas.

Paul is a pretty amazing guy. You would like him I think. When I met him years ago he had two good legs and a brutally funny sense of humour. He was so funny that I was pretty sure he was a Newfoundlander. You probably know the type (or maybe you don’t) — salt of the earth, always smiling, and like so many health-care professionals, seemingly obsessed with helping others in need.

These days he spends his time training other health-care workers and learning how to walk again. That’s a pretty exhausting task for Paul … heading into rehabilitation he knew very well his chances of walking again were next to none, considering he’s a double amputee, missing both legs above the knee.

At the risk of ruining your day Noreen, I’m proud to report that for the last few months he has managed to walk his son to school almost every morning and it’s almost a kilometre from his house. Next month Paul hopes to travel to Washington where he claims he will learn how to run on something he calls “bionic flipper cheetah feet.” The legs may be gone but the sense of humour is still very much intact.

Forgive me Noreen for using Paul’s name so much, but seeing as you didn’t catch it when CBC ran the profile on his recovery I thought it might be nice if you perhaps bothered to remember it from here on in. This way, when you are pontificating about him at a dinner party, you no longer have to refer to him simply as the “poor sod,” but you can actually refer to him as Paul Franklin. You may prefer “poor sod” of course; it’s all a matter of how you look at things. You see a “poor sod” that ruined your Christmas and I see a truly inspiring guy. That’s why I am thrilled that the CBC saw fit to run a story on Paul and his wife Audra. I would go so far as to suggest that many people would find their story, their marriage and their charitable endeavours inspiring. Just as I am sure that many readers of The Independent are inspired by your suggestion that Paul’s story has no place on the public broadcaster.

...


That's only the first half of this amazing letter. Don't miss the rest.

215 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:52:06pm

This is always frustrating to me. The Koskidz are going nuts about the bogus terror alert in Boston today, yet there's not a single diary on the busted plot to behead a soldier in the UK. Terrorism is only interesting to the left if it's fake.

216 Lorenska  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:52:14pm

To those of you who thanked me for being verbose enough to voice your thoughts....you're welcome, you can ALWAYS count on me to use way more words than necessary, so hopefully I'll be able to speak for those who don't have the time or the energy to be the chatterbox that I am. Writing is my favorite thing, so when I get started, heaven help those who might have a roast in the oven or something.... :)

easy:

I truly am happy to hear from a voice of experience that our boys are not under-equipped - I have only heard the opposite of that for 4 years, that they often have to buy their own armor, that they do without things that they need, that their tanks are not safe enough....I am very glad to hear it's not necessarily always the truth, and it's something I'm happy to be wrong about, feel free to correct me anytime. :)

MamaWinger:

We've only traded a couple of posts and it's none of my business AT ALL, but it appears you're having some medical issues, and you did share some of your childhood pain with me the other day, so I just want you to know you're in my thoughts, I'm sending nothing but happiness and blessings your way, and I hope all is right in your world.

And with that, my 2 year old insists on eating EVERY NIGHT, so I guess I'd better go do my Mama thing...will be back soon, everyone keep up the good fight. :)

217 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:53:02pm

Some of those rather ribald comments coming from MandyManners just crack me up. Oh, the irony. Darlin' is that a "thing" you do? Love that thing.

218 brandonf  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:53:43pm

215 Killgore Trout

I was just wondering if those little cocksuckers were gloating over that. So predictable.

219 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:54:18pm

#200 just
politics sometimes makes for stong passions.
I read molly for years (along with every other columnist in the ledger)I think what annoys was the mocking tone she used with what she disagreed with,a smugness,which only preaches to the choir,and consolidates the opposition.

220 tangonine  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:54:31pm

#205 stevesturm

cmon guys, you're surprised that guys like this exist? that guys like this hate our military so? that guys like this have paying gigs with the MSM?

I don't think any LGF vets are 'surprised' that idiots like this are out there. We just react with deserved intensity each time. We are consistency, sir.

221 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:54:45pm

Damn, if I'm not in a mood for Gypsy Kings, now. Here's one we can all enjoy.

222 christheprofessor  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:54:47pm

#214 Doss

Thanks for that...

223 byzantium  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:55:02pm

I don't want to be taken in two nights in row. Are you sure this isn't another one of Iowahawk's parodies?

224 tom321  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:55:13pm

I think we ALL should comment on the "offensiveness" of this diary here at blogs@washingtonpost.com

this is where you are supposed to report "offensive comments" I said the diary was offensive.

225 JoiseyMafia  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:56:02pm

This little shit should be praying to God that its not a Roosevelt or a Reagan in the White House. Him and his ilk would have already been shot for this and other disgusting pieces and acts of outright sedition and traitors.

How else could you possibly expalin what he says?

My father who went to war at the age of 16 years old in 1945 to fight the Japanese cause he saw it as his patriotic duty would slap this punks{Arkin} teeth right out of his mouth for saying such dispicable and disgusting things about the very men and women who defend his rights to whine and bitch like a friggin little spoiled brat.

Where would his ass be without those brave soldiers defending his rights?

Living in a box in some dead end street in NYC i bet as he doesnt have any talent to do anything else.

Scum. God will take care of him. Harshly.

226 Doss  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:56:22pm

#158 mama winger

You're in my prayers for as speedy a recovery as is possible. :)

227 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:57:11pm

#210 brandonf

No worries, mate. I've been corrected a time or two here, myself. Just passing along the wisdom.

228 christheprofessor  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:57:37pm

#215 Killgore

Terrorism is only interesting to the left if it's fake.

Or if they can claim it's a Bush lie. 9/11 is of no interest to the left any more. Three thousand dead? Hell, the Soviets suffered that one day...

229 squarepeg  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 4:57:59pm

#162 carbon

Exactly.

#79 wrath

Give positive reinforcement to the troops instead of wasting precious electrons on Arkin. You'll feel better, the troops will feel better.

230 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:00:02pm

Hey, CtP, long time. Where the f*ck you been?

231 Doss  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:00:13pm

#222 christheprofessor

My pleasure. It did me good also to read that. I hope that Noreen Golfman sorry-excuse-of-a-human-being feels as low as she should after reading that letter. I wouldn't bet on it though.

232 EE  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:01:05pm

The antidote to the poison from the hater William Arkin (Arkin is a leftist who hates Western civilization and therefore supports the global jihad, hates American civilization and our country in general just as the radical left does, and therefore hates the force that protects our country and increasingly protects Western civilization): an open letter to our armed forces and their families from Ben Stein
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

233 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:02:29pm

It's a sign of our growing distance from 9/11 that libs don't feel like they to even pretend, anymore.

234 rickl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:02:32pm

This guy Arikn is making a strong claim for the 2007 Fiskie. He's got to be the frontrunner at the moment.

235 christheprofessor  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:02:44pm

#230 Noam

Hi. Been good, thanks, howzabout you and your?

#231 Doss

I don't think she'll feel bad, she's too busy shilling for anybody but the US... The Skank...

236 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:02:48pm

The Protocols of the Daily Kos...
Israeli poison balloons reach Beirut.

Now, Hezbollah is reporting toxin-filled Israeli balloons found in South Beirut" . . . poisonous balloons with Hebrew markings, similar to the ones found in the south, have been discovered. Security forces are currently investigating the issue."


Tools.

237 raidergirl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:03:29pm

I think this guy sucks! Why do we have to be careful about what we say about him, he is treasonous!

238 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:04:00pm

Mama Winger,

You are right, you do have a real man in your house - one you raised! Be proud, you did well.

PS I am sending you lots of positive thoughts and will most certainly have you in my prayers. Rest and heal, the world needs you.

239 EE  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:05:08pm

re #232


Open Letter to Our Armed Forces and Their Families From Ben Stein
georgiagop | 19 January 2007 | Ben Stein

Posted on 01/20/2007 8:37:35 AM PST by concretebob

Greetings From Rancho Mirage By Ben Stein

Tuesday

Dear Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, National Guard, Reservists, in Iraq, in the Middle East theater, in Afghanistan, in the area near Afghanistan, in any base anywhere in the world, and your families:

Let me tell you about why you guys own about 90 percent of the backbone in the whole world right now and should be happy with yourselves and proud of whom you are.

It was a dazzlingly hot day here in Rancho Mirage today. I did small errands like going to the bank to pay my mortgage, finding a new bed at a price I can afford, practicing driving with my new 5 wood, paying bills for about two hours. I spoke for a long time to a woman who is going through a nasty child custody fight. I got e-mails from a woman who was fired today from her job for not paying attention. I read about multi-billion-dollar mergers in Europe, Asia, and the Mideast. I noticed how overweight I am, for the millionth time. In other words, I did a lot of nothing.

Like every other American who is not in the armed forces family, I basically just rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic in my trivial, self-important, meaningless way.

Above all, I talked to a friend of more than forty-three years who told me he thought his life had no meaning because all he did was count his money. And, friends in the armed forces, this is the story of all of America today. We are doing nothing but treading water while you guys carry on the life or death struggle against worldwide militant Islamic terrorism. Our lives are about nothing: paying bills, going to humdrum jobs, waiting until we can go to sleep and then do it all again. Our most vivid issues are trivia compared with what you do every day, every minute, every second.

Oprah Winfrey talks a lot about "meaning" in life. For her, "meaning" is dieting and then having her photo on the cover of her magazine every single month (surely a new world record for egomania ). This is not "meaning."

- Meaning is doing for others.

- Meaning is risking your life for hers.

- Meaning is putting your bodies and families' peace of mind on the line to defeat some of the most evil, sick killers the world has ever known.

- Meaning is leaving the comfort of home to fight to make sure that there still will be a home for your family and for your nation and for free men and women everywhere.

240 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:05:50pm

#236 Killgore Trout

A photo of the balloons -- with Hebrew markings -- appears below.

OMG! They done gots the goods!

241 right wing zephyr  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:06:44pm

civil war is upon us. Get yourself prepared.

William Arkin should have never been allowed to touch a pen or keyboard and the WaPo ought to be dragged to their pathetic anti-American knees.

At what point is enough, enough?

242 EE  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:07:03pm

re #232

Look, soldiers and Marines and sailors and airmen and Coast Guardsmen, there are eight billion people in this world. The whole fate of this world turns on what you people, 1.4 million, more or less, do every day. The fate of mankind depends on what about 2/100 of one percent of the people in this world do every day – and you are those people. And joining you is every policeman, fireman, and Emergency Medical Technician in the country, also holding back the tide of chaos.

Do you know how important you are? Do you know how indispensable you are? Do you know how humbly grateful any of us who has a head on his shoulders is to you? Do you know that if you never do another thing in your lives, you will always still be heroes? That we could live without Hollywood or Wall Street or the NFL, but we cannot live for a week without you?

We are on our knees to you and we bless and pray for you every moment. And Oprah Winfrey, if she were a size two, would not have one millionth of your importance, and all of the Wall Street billionaires will never mean what the least of you do, and if Barry Bonds hits hundreds of home runs it would not mean as much as you going on one patrol or driving one truck to the Baghdad airport.

You are everything to us, as we go through our little days, and you are in the prayers of the nation and of every decent man and woman on the planet. That's who you are and what you mean. I hope you know that.

Love,

Ben Stein

"If It Weren't For the United States Military There Would Be NO United States of America"

243 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:08:06pm
244 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:08:34pm

I've been good, Chris. Here's a tune just for you.

No one else gets to look at it - just christheprofessor.

Ah, okay. Go ahead and watch.

245 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:09:02pm

John at Military.com's OpFor has written an eloquent response that ought to shame Arkin if he had any moral decency to appeal to.

Read it.

246 squarepeg  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:09:26pm

#203 chris

Still numb here. Unbelievable. I am so f***ing naive, I truly thought there were some sort of pro-forma professional requirements -- some legitimate lines on a resume -- that were required for these jobs, at least as a foundation on which to erect their towers of lies and biases.

Well, now that I know the truth, I can have a little fun speculating what those places would be like if they hired their IT, Sales force, and other support departments similarly.

247 raidergirl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:10:26pm

right wing zephyr, no, we can have an open dialogue with the "insurgents", and as long as we live under sharia law, it will be ok!

248 freedomplow  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:10:31pm

Advocates of troop surge about-face in Congress

For many in the Senate, they were for a surge of troops in Iraq before they were against it.

19. Do you personally want the Iraq plan President Bush announced last week to
succeed?
Democrats 51% Yes
pdf

This isn't the seventies, these people will be marginalized and their leaders in congress will have to try and defend them.

249 mattm  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:11:52pm

Asshole.

250 George Ford  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:14:20pm

But don't dare question their (arkin, jf'nkerry and the rest of the pinheads) patriotism.
Absolutely pathetic.

251 tangonine  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:14:38pm

#237 raidergirl

I think this guy sucks! Why do we have to be careful about what we say about him, he is treasonous!

Being one who has done so in the past: don't diminish yourself in commenting on this degenerate.

get my drift?

252 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:15:03pm

#236 Killgore

"The Protocols..."

I'm going in.

253 terri g  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:15:16pm

Asshat, F'ing loser, what other adjectives can I use? There are actually people on the comment section that support this clown. Happily, though I recognize some names from here & glad to see we're also "contributing" over at WaPo. The tin foil hats are out saying he "struck a nerve with the rightwingnuts", "stupid troops crowd", "withdraw my support if they continue this speaking out", etc.

254 Earth2moonbat  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:15:38pm

#246 squarepeg

Look at who HRW watch hires as a "military expert"....

255 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:16:42pm

#217 Noam Sayin'

What can I say? Arkin's piece of shit caught me in a good mood.

256 raidergirl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:16:53pm

#251 tangonine, wow, that didnt take long!

257 christheprofessor  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:17:08pm

#244 Noam

Excellent! Thanks for that.... I've read the SRV joked about having big hands when he humbly deflected questions about his ability... I could see his big hands there...

#246 squarepeg

I understand, believe me... It's comforting to know that their very industry is being undercut by Charles and the lizard army... ;)

258 tronman  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:17:14pm

When are these idiots going to wise up? They are becoming the enemy and have been on that path since the sixties. Somehow they lack the clarity of mind to see that the propaganda spewing forth from their mouths on a daily basis would have made Marx light up with a smile. They seem to be oblivious that they have become good little comrades willfully begging for the destruction of their own country, yet yowl like cats when their patriotism is questioned. If the founding fathers were alive to see this I can guarantee these apparently defective citizens would be marched to the closest port and shipped third class to somewhere more to their liking, perhaps to Iran or Syria maybe they could make their way and show their support for their Palestinian brothers in person! But for all of them who seem to share this view with William Arkin that somehow they will rise up together and save this nation they had better remember WE are this nation and I for one am going to take offense to any "changes" they might want to make.


Oh and just for the record...Molly Ivins is finally silent!

259 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:17:33pm

#244 Noam Sayin'
I peeked. I gotta hear that strat through a fender twin...

couldn't stand the weather

260 Muadib  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:19:23pm

Asshole sums up William Arkin quite nicely. I wonder if Mr. Arkin would be so snarky toward the powers that be if our military stopped protecting his right to free speech. Under our enemies rules, he would be executed in short order.

261 Lee  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:19:45pm

Late to the party, sorry, but GOOD LORD what a fucking asshole.

It's in moments like these that I miss Rachel Lucas.

262 hiker  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:19:48pm

It's ironic, really, that if and when the SHTF guys like this Arkin puke will be swinging from lamp posts.

263 right wing zephyr  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:20:59pm
Being one who has done so in the past: don't diminish yourself in commenting on this degenerate.

get my drift?

NOt in the least. Are you one who has fought this filth ardently in the past and now? If not, then do so. Don't diminish yourself by

not

doing so.

Or you can just comment...

Get my drift?

Outrage is appropriate.

264 Caliphornian  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:21:44pm

While I'm not shocked by this in any way, it is disappointing to me that such vermin shuffle along on this mortal coil with the rest of us.

To Arkin, all I have is an appropriation of the name of a group of moonbats. Not in My Name, Arkin. You don't speak for me in any way, shape or form, you rotten, soulless pile of odoriferous compost. Rot in a pus-filled hell of your own worst nightmares.

C

265 raidergirl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:23:56pm

#263 right wing zephyr, Thanks!

266 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:25:08pm

#257 CtP


I've read the SRV joked about having big hands when he humbly deflected questions about his ability

I met the man. Shook his hand. The dude had fingers like sausages.

Also one of the firmest, most meaningful handshakes I've experienced - and I was (to him) just a stage hand.

267 right wing zephyr  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:26:40pm

#265,

Don't you worry a bit about it. Speak your mind and don't back down to retard-isms.

268 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:27:20pm

Boy I bet he gets a chubby thinking that if the public turns against the war his Communist friends could take over the country and they could get their dictatorship of the proletariat.

Course he is also so stoopid to realize he and all his journalist friends would be the first to go in the purge that follows. Let’s see, this has been tried in Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba, and now the Peoples Republic of Venezuela. The professors, intellectuals, and journalist are the first to go. But some how here in the US it would be different.

269 deportman  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:27:52pm

The American left needs to be exiled. The next time Pelosi and Murtha leave the U.S., keep them out. Arkin is an asshole. Big-mouth on a punk-ass bitch.

270 right wing zephyr  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:29:44pm

We cannot win another war until the Left is defeated.

Leftists out first, then political discourse.

Then we can win whatever war we need to fight.

271 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:30:07pm

#259 Killgore

I gotta hear that strat through a fender twin...

Sweet. He got that meaty tone by using the G and B strings from a bass set for his bottom two strings (6 and 5), then using the 6-5-4-2 (IIRC) from a regular guitar string set to fill out the rest. Don't know if you're a guitar player, but imagine digging into those awesome bends on the 1 and 2 with larger strings than most guitar players use.

272 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:33:26pm

#261 Lee

Wow, Lee. Eight posts in 2 1/2 years. Where the hell have you been? You don't post much, but when you do - straight to the point. LOL!

273 christheprofessor  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:35:37pm

#266 Noam

Heh. Thanks for that. Always cool to hear a personal experience about one so respected...

This is for you.. Lenny

274 illegal upchuck  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:35:55pm

Would calling him 'no better than a Socialist son-of-a-bitch be out of line?

275 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:36:08pm

#246, squarepeg

Well, what have we learned from just the last few days?

Mr. Arkin's mercenary force of ungrateful rapists and murderers (WashingtonPost.com) is turning Iraq's children into jihadists (Newsweek), while fighting a war we can't win (New York Times), as a result of a terrorist attack that really wasn't that big a deal anyway (L.A. Times).

Did I miss anything?

276 Outrider  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:37:34pm

This guys miltary history is hard to figure out.


Arkin is a veteran of four years in the Army (he served from 1974 to 1978) and many of his bylines from the past two decades described him as a "military intelligence analyst" during his service
[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

Mr. Arkin served in the U.S. Army from 1974-1978, and was an assistant to the Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence of the US Commander Berlin. He was engaged in a number of covert intelligence collection projects and was the primary intelligence analyst for the West Berlin command. http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/gulf-secret04.htm

William Arkin, who served as the US Army's top intelligence mind on West Berlin in the 1970s
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/200 6/04/17/2003303150

A poster that obviously knew him referred to his four years in Berlin as a Signal Intelligence Officer when responding to the news article.

Anyone that has worked within the Army Intelligence field knows those are three separate disciplines (Signal Intelligence, Intelligence Analyst, or Covert Operations). Come on, the guy was only in for four years. There are certain duties he could have pulled that would allow some combination of those skills, but I didn't read languages as one of his areas of expertise, and again, he was only in for four years.

I also find it hard to place four years experience, a senior lieutenant or junior Captain as being the "US Army's top intelligence mind on (in) West Berlin". West Berlin in the 70s had a pretty great collection of intelligence assets.

277 J.D.  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:37:46pm

Senate proposal on Iraq gains support

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Top Senate Democrats joined with Republican Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting record) on Wednesday to support a nonbinding resolution opposing
President George W. Bush's
Iraq strategy, increasing prospects that Bush will face an embarrassing repudiation. ...


..."I don't feel abandoned," Bush said on Fox News Channel's "Neil Cavuto" program. "And what do you expect? When times are good, there's millions of authors of the plan. When times are bad, there's one author, and that would be me."


Oh, dear. An embarrassing repudiation.
As if that matters.

278 raidergirl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:38:35pm

illegal upchuck, probably, as we are supposed to always be politically correct!

279 Gozer the Carpathian  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:39:30pm

Well sheet...

You know, I love the freedom and speech and all, but I there are times I'd really wish folks like this could say these things to the folks they are disparaging. I mean right to them.

Just like little punks in online games turn into polite and timid little kids, I'm sure this guy would crawl under a rock before he tried to say this tripe to some soldiers directly.

280 gtiness  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:40:03pm

So, to this "journalist", any army that's not comprised of draftees is a mercenary army?

There's some logic for ya.

If we had a draft...I bet he'd rail against the slave labor.

281 illegal upchuck  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:40:52pm

#278 Raidergirl

Good. Because I did.

;)

282 raidergirl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:41:55pm

Sorry ot, but hillary put out the video of edwards primping his hair, I think shes about a few years late on this slam!

283 carbon footprint  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:44:14pm

OT
Not sure why Drudge has the flashing red light on this, but appears that France is surrendering again....

Tres Francois

284 Lee  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:45:46pm

#272 Noam Sayin':

*heh* Thanks -- I had an account for a couple years before I even had the guts to say anything. This isn't exactly an easy room in which to break in!

BTW, I do play guitar, and no, I can't imagine playing with the gauges SRV used. I can't even watch the "Live at El Macombo" video without my left hand sympathetically cramping up...

285 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:47:02pm

#276 outrider

Sounds like to me he got recruited by the KGB while he was playing around in Berlin. If he had those communist attitudes before going over there he never would have gotten the security clearences.

286 brent  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:50:36pm

I'm sorry, what adult person says "oops" as part of his professional writing? Ignoring the fact that I have relatives with their stays being extended, while this piece of crap sits in front of a computer passing judgement on him.

So, since the precedent has been set; I pass my own judgement. You have been measured, and you have been found lacking.

287 Mziln d' nau qu'ellar  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:52:53pm

He says "we pay the soldiers a decent wage" a private E nothing gets paid $1,178.10 that comes to $7.36 figuring a 4 week 40 hours a week. I wish I had those hours when I was in.

But it is CHEAP pay for a mercenary.

And look they won't have to give them a pay raise after they raise the minimum wage E-0 will be $0.11 over the minimum wage.

I haven't heard the U.S. military called mercenaries in decades. William Arkin should be placed in Norfolk Naval Prison on bread an water. The traditional punishment for troublmakers in the Navy/Marines.

288 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:55:24pm

#273 Thanks, CtP. That's one of my favorites.

And, Lee (#284), I've been admonished by the Queen Lizard, BabbaZee, for not speaking my peace in this forum. Consider it passed on to you. Your voice - and all lizard voices are very important here. Don't be shy.

And just to tease you a little further. I have a bootleg video of Live at El Macombo.

289 hazzyday  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:59:00pm

GWB should just put his toe into Iran and when the moonbats and Iranians and Jihadis go wild. He can declare himself a 3rd term. Since Democrats can't handle it. Then start moving Hollywood actors into detentions camps.

290 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 5:59:11pm

And here's a SRV for "anyone who still suffers in any way" (Stevie's intro).

291 Lee  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:03:32pm

#288 Noam:

Thank you, friend.

~L

292 DockScience  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:05:24pm

It's pretty obvious that there is no degree of leftist thinking that the MSM will not embrace and make its own.

I can imagine Stalin and Pol Pot as stringers for the NYT and the WaPo if the current "leadership" ran things back then.

Patty Hearst could have taken over the empire.

293 hazzyday  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:06:04pm

Democrat, euphemism for sniveler.

294 raidergirl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:06:18pm

Damn, Night all ya snobs!

295 carbon footprint  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:10:47pm

Had to share this post to the infamous blog.

Mr. Arkin,

I'll be on my way to Iraq soon. I'd like you to know that I'll be thinking about you when I'm over there. You know why? Because I'll be over there protecting your right to insult me. And you know what? I volunteered to do it, knowing full well what it would mean. It really hurts when people like you are so ungrateful for everything you have been given in exchange for my brothers' and sisters' blood, but you don't have to worry! We'll keep doing it, despite you and your kind. That's because we know we're doing the right thing, and it makes our lives worth living and worth sacrificing. So feel free to continue on typing your disgusting, hateful lies, because you're safe.

Posted by: Lance Coolie | January 31, 2007 11:00 PM

296 raidergirl  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:13:29pm

carbon, God Speed!

297 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:20:57pm

John Hinderaker's first line is worth quoting:

The Peril of Newspaper Blogs...
...is that a reporter might say what he actually thinks before an editor catches up with him and makes him stop.

298 mac  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:21:10pm

It seems like this Arkin dude is missing something..... a soul maybe.

299 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:21:16pm

Heh, heh, heh, I tried getting to Arkin's original article, but the link doesn't work now.

I think they're trying to hide it.

300 pat  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:21:17pm

The Washington Post is really a despicable publication. I stopped reading even the internet edition years ago. I am sure, though, it is making as much as The New York Times. It must be. My Newsweek has been provided to me free for years, even after I demanded it stop sending it lest someone actually read the nonsense in it.

301 PostWatch  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:21:24pm

It's okay, folks. This will be balanced at washingtonpost.com by a similar staff blogger from the right.

Oh, wait....

302 realwest  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:22:00pm

#286 brent - The kind of person who served in the US Army from 1974-1978 in "intelligence"; i.e., never heard a shot fired in anger. Never. Not once.
Also, someone who writes: " If I weren’t the United States, I’d say the story end with a military coup where those in the know, and those with fire in their bellies, save the nation from the people." Leaving aside the quite obvious fact that he isn't the United States, he should thank his lucky stars; if there were ever to be a military coup, he would be one of the first that the coup government would take out.

303 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:25:31pm

#129 JustMyView

No, he hasn't committed a crime---he's just a monumental jerk.

(Also a failed revolutionary; does he really think his bleats about overthrowing the government by people with "a fire in their belly" are going to be taken seriously?)

304 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:28:24pm

He certainly shows his contempt for America with his little quip, "save the nation from the people." Typical lefty; the people are nothing but stupid savages, who must be "saved" by the elites.

I suspect the real reason he hates the military is that he knows they'd be a huge obstacle in the plans of any revolutionary with a "fire" in his belly longing to "save the nation from the people."

305 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:33:31pm

Thank you, carbon footprint, for your dedication to this country. Be safe, soldier, and take with you the knowledge that you know what you're doing is right. We support you one hundred percent.

Many on this blog are christians, so I know they will join you in this:


A Soldier's Prayer

Almighty Father, Whose Command is over all and Whose Love never faileth, let me be aware of Thy presence and obedient to Thy will.

Keep me true to my best self, guarding me against dishonesty in purpose and in deed, and helping me so to soldier and to live so as to stand unashamed and unafraid before my fellow soldiers, my loved ones, and Thee.

Protect those in whose love I live. Give me the will to do the work of a man and to accept my share of responsibilities with a strong heart and a cheerful mind.

Make me considerate of those entrusted to my leadership
and faithful to the duties my country has entrusted to me.

Let my uniform remind me daily of the traditions of the Service of which I am a part.

If I am inclined to doubt, steady my faith; if I am tempted, make me strong to resist; if I should miss the mark, bestow upon me courage to try again.

Guide me with the light of Thy truth ~ and keep before me the life of Him in Whose example and deliverance I trust.

In the name of my Lord,
Amen.

I learned that prayer here.

306 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:35:03pm

#299 TalkinKamel

Scroll down a bit when you link. It's there. I had the same issue. Firefox?

307 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:36:00pm

#243 buzzsawmonkey

"Oh, it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that,
An' 'Chuck 'im out, the brute!'
But it's 'Savior of 'is country, when the guns begin to shoot!"
---Kiping

308 melinwy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:36:52pm

absolutely outrageous

the contempt I feel for this man and his views, there are no words to describe it.....

God Bless our Brave Men and Women!

309 ladycatnip  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:38:04pm
Back to those poor mindless drones who are too stupid and got Stuk in Irak as F Jaques Kerry noted. They are obviously not capable of the lucid reasoning you have demonstrated in this substance-free screed. What if they actually do understand, maybe even better than you? What if all the college-educated patriots serving who chose to do so out of a higher purpose actually understand what is at stake in a way that pampered, punk ass liberals like you are incapable of. Well the spine and balls the Soviets removed can't be helping you much.

Blackfive is amazing - thanks for the link Charles.

310 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:38:43pm

#306 Noam Sayin'

I can't get to the Post at all---it just keeps saying "error on page", and won't load.

I can't help but wonder if they're trying to hide it, now.

311 pat  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:39:00pm

Well , I left a comment. It may have been zapped. Typical leftist site cannot take direct criticism. They like to maintain the 3 to 1 ratio in favor of liberal thought.

312 nigella  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:42:42pm

This day marks the sad anniversary of the death of my friends only child in Iraq. To read this outrageous crap is like putting a knife in my heart. After all that has gone on recently with this attack on the troops from the media it sickens me to think that my friends have to read or hear any of it. They firmly believe their son died for his country defending it from terrorists bent on our destruction.They like me, believe we are fighting a war that we must win for our very survival.When I read this shit, I want to scream WAKE UP!

313 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:43:22pm

#310 TalkinKamel

I can't get to the Post at all---it just keeps saying "error on page", and won't load.

I can't help but wonder if they're trying to hide it, now.

Good. Maybe we buried the post in a Liz-O-lanche™.

314 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:45:55pm

313 Noam Sayin'

Finally got on! Man, it may not be a Liz-O-lanche, but a lot of angry people are coming down real hard on Arkin!

Beautiful to see. . .

315 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:47:05pm

#312 nigella

I am so sorry for your friend's loss.

316 nigella  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:50:58pm

#315 Thank you. It breaks my heart. All that keeps them going is their belief that he did not die in vain. I can't understand why people can't see we are in the fight for our very survival. The msm and the dhimmis used to hide their disgust for our troops , but their "mandate" as they see it following the last election has emboldened them to speak what they really feel. I pray it will backfire on them, but I am losing hope. Even the Republicans are starting to fold. Scary times.

317 merav  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:51:34pm

"we pay them a decent wage, take care of their families, ship them amenities...."

Oh, and let's not forget his use of the word, "indulge."

Arkin makes it sound as if we're catering to a bunch of spoiled kids at sleep away camp.

We SHOULD be taking care of the soldiers' families, as the soldiers are busy protecting ours. They'd probably rather be home with their loved ones but they and their families are sacrificing.

I wouldn't call treating American servicemembers with the rights afforded to every American "indulgent." I'd call it not discriminating against American servicemembers.

Obviously Arkin believes our soldiers DESERVE to be discriminated against. After all, they're over there enjoying the serenity of Iraq, reveling in the delightful safety, basking in the sunny relaxation of Baghdad and Basrah, and we're back here paying for their luxurious vacations.

Arkin owes an apology to every servicemember, and every one of their family members. It's one thing to disagree with the war. It's another to suggest Pariah status for our siblings, parents and spouses who are serving in the military.

318 American Soldier  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:53:50pm
BLACKFIVE: A hearty F*** You to William Arkin

Seconded.

319 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 6:59:22pm

#316 nigella

Scary times, indeed. But your friend's son did not die in vain, despite what worms like Arkin say.

Speaking of scary times. . . I've noticed, of late, reading free, leftwing papers such as the L.A. Weekly, O.C. Weekly, etc., that a lot of them do seem to be calling, more and more openly, for "taking it to the streets" and a "real" revolution; kinda makes me think of Arkin's quip about those with a "fire in the belly" saving America from her own (allegedly) evil citizens.

The Left is getting bolder. I'm beginning to think they'd like nothing better than some big riots, to bring down American cities.

320 Outrider  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 7:06:11pm

#304 TalkinKamel
I

suspect the real reason he hates the military is that he knows they'd be a huge obstacle in the plans of any revolutionary with a "fire" in his belly longing to "save the nation from the people."


Reference my post #276 and his military tour. I am wondering what he did do while in Berlin and why he got out. He apparently made Captain so he could not have been in the zone for getting passed over for Major, thus having to get out. Most officers incurred a six year obligation, he did only four. Why out early? By choice or otherwise? He could have served four active and had another two of acitve or inactive reserve, But all the officers I observed did the full six. Knowing why he got out or the circumstances would do much to explain his obvious hatred of the military. Do a google of his name and see how many articles and books he has written exposing military and the nations secrets. Quite a few.

321 nigella  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 7:09:40pm

Kamel, I'm scared to and have seen a significant change in press and Congress. It's not that they were supportive before, but they used to be more stealthy about their beliefs.They seem to believe they have the backing of the public with these new attacks, because the Dhimmis won the election. It was hardly a landslide, but the Republicans have given into the Dhimmis because they are afraid for their political lifes. I will never vote for a democrat, but I am registering Independent because I am disgusted with the Republican party.

322 melinwy  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 7:13:37pm

#312 nigella 1/31/2007 08:42PM PST

This day marks the sad anniversary of the death of my friends only child in Iraq. To read this outrageous crap is like putting a knife in my heart. After all that has gone on recently with this attack on the troops from the media it sickens me to think that my friends have to read or hear any of it. They firmly believe their son died for his country defending it from terrorists bent on our destruction.They like me, believe we are fighting a war that we must win for our very survival.When I read this shit, I want to scream WAKE UP!

my prayers are with you and this family...there are more of us that believe in our troops and our cause, the other side is just louder it seems, or rather the media focuses only on the anti-war groups.

323 SunCat  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 9:00:24pm

This is even worse than I expected. Will the outrages never cease?
***
TOMMY
by Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,

The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."

The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,

I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:

O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";

But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,

The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,

O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.



I went into a theatre as sober as could be,

They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;

They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,

But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";

But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,

The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,

O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.



Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep

Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;

An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit

Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.

Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"

But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,

The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,

O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.



We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,

But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;

An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,

Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;

While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",

But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,

There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,

O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.



You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:

We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.

Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face

The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.

For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"

But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;

An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;

An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!

324 Caliphornian  Wed, Jan 31, 2007 9:26:33pm

#323

Thanks for the Kipling quote. That one was my father's ( 22 years active, US Army, including WWII, Korea, Advisor in 'Nam) favorite poem from Kipling. He knew was it was all about, God rest his soul.

C

325 Ellen  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 12:24:42am

I know a few people like this. I stay away from them since I'm not confrontational by nature. But God, there are times I wish I was. This man needs to smeared with honey and left for the fire ants.

326 Ledger1  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 12:26:37am

William Arkin is an Asshat!

327 wolfgang  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 2:29:06am

Think of the line from the "Epic of Gilgamesh: referring to the piles of human heads and imagine how fitting it would be.

328 Merovign  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 3:18:12am

I'm kind of shocked that Babba Zee hasn't yet observed that Arkin is a Gramscian whore of the Caliphate!

Arkin is letting the mask slip from the LLL face of (overweening and self-described) compassion to reveal the spite that drives them.

Others have pointed out that the LLLs say:

Those who haven't served shouldn't support the war.

Arkin has added the rarely public (but I've heard in private oh-so-many-times:

Those who serve shouldn't support the war.

In other words, they're saying "No one who does not share my opinion should speak," which in turn makes sense of much of the LLL's attitude toward dissent - theirs is good, yours is bad.

Oh, and criticism equals censorship, if it's criticism of them. I'm sure you've noticed that too...

329 LeonidasofSparta  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 3:33:13am

THANK YOU BLACKFIVE! very nice smackdown of a VILE, IGNORANT, "oscarmeyer".

330 Piso Mojado  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 3:43:06am

For the record, Arkin's sweaty musings inspired me to make another sizable contribution to Soldires Angels, such is the power of his prose.

In other breaking news, f**k him and the horse he rode in on -- and a big Hooh Ah to all of our military in gratitude for their character, skills, and service.

331 Dustoff-507  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 4:44:23am

WOW... I get up this morning and read what this POS has put out. I need a drink before I lose control!

I could go on and on about how little this idot knows, but what the hell. He's part of the left and they will never get it.

I can say, let's flood the WP with hate mail over this fool.
Bet he never slept in a mud filled fox hole while praying you didn't get your head blown off.


/God I hate this man!

332 BabbaZee  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 4:46:16am

#328 Merovign 2/1/2007 05:18AM PST

I'm kind of shocked that Babba Zee hasn't yet observed that Arkin is a Gramscian whore of the Caliphate!

AHA!
It's only because I haven't been on this thread yet
but thank you for doing it for me!

;~P

333 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:04:13am

Well, step up to the plate, Arkin. Next time you see a Marine in the street, please feel free to spit on him (or her). Watch what happens next. (Make sure your health insurance premiums are paid up first.) Oh, and please arrange to have this moment caught on video, because we'd all love to see it.

334 Greg  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:17:11am

This Arkin fella if seen on the street needs a hearty punch in the nose!

Crapbirds like this who spew this stuff about our armed forces need to be taken behind the woodshed.

As for Molly Ivins, she can roast in hell with Saddamn, Hitler and Stalin...whe had the same mental outlook as them.

335 Greg  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:23:04am

Blackfive...thank you...keep sticking it to the Arkin slime everyday forever!

#319 TalkinKamel

If the Left does try a revolution in the cities, it will be a very short one from all the armed second amendment types out there...then we can try and convict and do an end to their hippie asses and 60's types.

336 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:37:35am

The subtitle of Molly Ivins' book Shrub... published in 2000, take note... is "The Short But Happy Political Life of George W. Bush."

Didn't quite work out that way, did it, Molly?

337 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:43:56am
338 Lorenska  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:45:41am

Everyone seen Arkin's 'response' this morning?

339 TalkinKamel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:46:15am

#321 nigella

Yes, they were much more stealthy before, and paid lip service to "supporting the troops" and such like. But now, they're getting much more brazen, openly calling for armed insurrection and condemning America and her fighting men. I'm afraid they are going to try something. . .

(Oh, and I share your disgust with the Republicans, even though I'll never vote Democrat again.)

However. . .

#335 Greg

Hopefully you're right, and any attempted insurrection by the leftists would fail, and lead to trials---because so many of them are, let's face it, chickenhawk revolutionaries!

There are three things that worry me:

1. If they start "takin' it to the streets?" is the MSM going to support them, and paint them as oppressed, peaceful protestors, being picked on by the police? Yes, it probably will---on the other hand, with the internet and talk radio, it's now a lot harder to push propaganda on the American public.

2. Might they actually find some would-be Stalin, somebody with a "fire in his belly" and "in the know" to lead them? Somebody, perhaps, with a criminal background, who'd know something about fighting and intimidation?

3. Might they ally themselves with terrorist cells here in the US, supporting homicide bombers, and providing aid and support to terrorists? (They're too cowardly to blow themselves up, but they might help others do it.)

By the way, just surfing through the Internet this morning, it looks as if this story is going to create a blogburst! Stay tuned, Lizards! We live in interesting times!

340 baltodog  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:47:04am

I sent the WaPo and that SOB a piece of my mind. Don't think it will do any good, through. Thanks to LGF, anyway, for publishing about this to let us know about the trash blowing around out there. Sure must suck to have to wade through this damned smelly garbage every day.

341 TalkinKamel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:47:19am

#338 Lorenska

No, I haven't! Is there a link to it?

342 the new Æstetic  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:49:05am

The 'arrogant' and 'intolerant' speak out?

New post by William Arkin.
I have sent this new link to Charles in hopes he will update this topic.

343 Muadib  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:50:22am

Arkin fires back. And I continue to dislike him. [Link: blog.washingtonpost.com...]

344 Lorenska  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:50:24am

#341 - since you have to register on WaPos site, I'm not sure if this direct link will work, but let me try:

[Link: blog.washingtonpost.com...]

Otherwise, just go to their home page, click "opinion," click "Opinions and Blogs" and there he is, in all his glory...I imagine Charles will post it here soon if you have problems. UNREAL. He's reveling in his "oh, everyone hates me now!" role..... (The piece is titled "The Arrogant and the Intolerant" if that tells you anything).....

345 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:54:51am
346 Beagle  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:01:48am

#339 TalkinKamel

I share your disgust with the Republicans, even though I'll never vote Democrat again


LOL! Ditto. I wish we had hard numbers on people who give similar answers: "disgust" but "never vote... again."

347 Greg  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:02:04am

I see Arkin has responded. This waste of oxygen just does not know when to shut up. He keeps digging his own grave.

#339 TalkinKamel

You have a point. Still think most of the Left is so spastic and unorganized that my deball-ed tabby cat could probably eat them for lunch. Let them fight some real men (and women) and see how long they last. Seen most of these people in action and a few billyclubs and some whiffs of grapeshot (a'la Kent State) and they will go running back to the trust fund mommies and daddies.

348 Occasional Reader  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:05:22am

Forty-one percent of Republicans say they own a gun, compared with 27% of independents and 23% of Democrats.

"Takin' it to the streets"? Bring it, baby. (Not gonna happen, in my opinion.)

349 AmericanViking  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:20:03am

#130 grumpy old codger

Sir, I am a 'half-breed' - meaning that I am half European (Danish) and half American. I have lived exclusively in Europe for more than 30 years now - I left the states as a minor along with my mother and sister, and have yet to return (a situation that I hope to remedy as fast as possible).

I am Chicago bred and born - firstborn grandson to a wealthy, Irish/Catholic Republican attorney's family - but I was European reared and raised.

With that in mind, both sides of me would like to apologize for any grief and insult that you and your wife experienced whilst R&R'ing over here.

Your wife most certainly does NOT have to verify anything - I've lived here for more than 3 decades, and have of course experienced 'anti-Americanism' firsthand more times than I care to count. It actually started back in 1975 when I first arrived here, and began attending Danish elementary school - everyone had the Vietnam war on their minds, and demanded answers to US behavior and military conduct regarding that war.

Being the tiny 9 year old rugrat that I was at the time, knowing absolutely nothing about this world or how it worked, I obviously wasn't able to answer any of their questions. As you might imagine, I received quite a fair share of grief, insult and bullying myself - and all this before I was even able to speak the freaking language, or even understand the insults flying in my direction.

So trust me on this: I certainly know what you have been through.

I cannot excuse the bullshit that you unfairly recieved while R&R'ing in Europe, so I won't even try. Nothing I could say here at LGF, or do in my private life would erase your experience, and replace it with a pleasant, positive one.

I would like to ask one favor of you though, if I may: please don't give up on all Europeans yet.

There are roughly as many lefties here in Europe as there are in the US - and the same applies to conservatives as well. I can still remember the (American) protest demonstrations against the Vietname war right before I left the states, and even the ones before our forces entered into Iraq this time around. So there are idiots on both sides of the Atlantic, to be sure. Denmark has the Social Democrat party and the Cartoon imams, and the US has Cindy Sheehan, Michael Crook/Moore and that idiotic Phelps family - need I say more?

Anyway, just because the Democrats seem to have gained the upper hand in the US does not at all mean that all Americans share their views. And likewise over here in Europe - just because you came across a few Germanic Leftidiots during your stay here, does not at all mean that all Europeans, or even Germans, share their views. (One last example, and then I'll move on: just because Holland has legalized the sale of marihuana to consenting adults in their 'Coffee Shops' does not at all mean that the rest of Europe shares their policies - in fact we don't, and never will.)

In the future, as more terrorism attacks hit Europe (because they are unable to get through to the US), I predict that you will see a decline in the number of people holding 'anti-American' stances. The rising number of terrorism attacks/plots uncovered by Intelligence Service raids and arrests over here - two of which happened in Denmark, by the way - should be proof of that escalation. The increasing disgust of average Europeans against everything Islamic - most recently exhibited by our Danish Mohammed Cartoon Contraversy - is very much on the rise, and should tell you a thing or two about where Europe, or at least some of its nations and populations, is/are heading towards.

In closing, Sir, both the European as well as the American side of me would like to thank you, and all of your military brethren, for your outstanding, professional and honorable service to this world during your time in the USMC.

It is people like you who keep my sorry ass safe at night - and you and yours are most welcome guests in my Viking home anytime you wish...

(PS! 'Mr.' Arkin is NOT!)

350 TalkinKamel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:24:49am

Oh, man, I've read his reply, and, if anything, it's worse than the original!

[Link: blog.washingtonpost.com...]

Hey, he never said we should spit on the troops, or hate them! Naaaah, he just doesn't like the fact that they "Hide behind the Constitution and the flag", then dare to make "Anti-Democrat, anti-liberal, anti-journalism, anti-citizen" comments! Translation: "They don't agree with those ideas I hold dear, waaah, waaaaaah!" (I suspect he's also mad because the military---and civilian law enforcement---are the first lines of defense against any would-be Stalins with fires in their bellies, trying to establish a Marxist Utopia. Waah, waaaaaah!)

#347 Greg

Yes, the Left, as a whole, is cowardly and incompetent. My big fear is that by allying themselves with somewhat more competent criminals and jihadists, they could cause real damage and havoc.

351 TalkinKamel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:30:01am

#323 SunCat

Many thanks for posting "Tommy" in its entirety---a great poem!

#346 Beagle

:>)

OOOoooh, do an update, Charles! Please, pleeeeze, pleeeeeeeeze, pretty pleeeeeeeeeeeeeze?

Just donated three big bags of clothes and boxes of books and magazines to a local Veteran's charity---Whooo-hoooo, and Hoo-hah!

352 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:16:47am
353 TalkinKamel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 9:57:48am

#352 buzzsawmonkey

Many thanks! Will do.

354 cookielady  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 3:31:23pm

I realize I am commenting very late on this, but I have to say this:

I hope this piece of garbage and his fellow traitors bring it to MY street. I've got my new toy all properly sighted in.

355 fixman88  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:58:07pm

I don't think anyone has mentioned it, but I wonder what R. Lee Ermey will have to say when he gets wind of this? Just a thought, you know.

/giggles at the thought of what the Gunny would do to Arkin if he ever got ahold of him...


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