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Thu, Feb 1, 2007 at 8:23:30 am PST

William Arkin, writer of one of the most hateful and ugly pieces ever to soil the web site of the Washington Post, says that everyone who criticized his article is Arrogant and Intolerant. Apparently he expected universal praise for his brilliant analysis.

Here he “apologizes” for describing US troops as “mercenaries”—because they’re actually worse than that.

I was dead wrong in using the word mercenary to describe the American soldier today.

These men and women are not fighting for money with little regard for the nation. The situation might be much worse than that: Evidently, far too many in uniform believe that they are the one true nation. They hide behind the constitution and the flag and then spew an anti-Democrat, anti-liberal, anti-journalism, anti-dissent, and anti-citizen message that reflects a certain contempt for the American people.

This is who the mainstream media picks to comment on military affairs: a radical left anti-military moonbat.

Allahpundit has audio of Arkin saying that by insulting the troops, he’s actually supporting them: William Arkin supports the troops in his own funny little way.

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1 mglazer  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:24:41am

Any Conferences on Jewaphobia?

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

2 NoSubmission  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:25:42am

Spit = Support.

3 illegal upchuck  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:27:32am

Right thinking people blast Arkin as "waste of skin and teeth."

4 Beagle  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:27:34am

Let's pretend Arkin lives down near the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan, London, or Paris. He makes negative comments about the mujahideen. I know, that would never happen. Bear with me here.

5 Golem Akbar  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:28:04am

Okay. As long as apologies are in order, I want to apologize for calling Mr. Arkin an asshat America-hater. It's true, but I apologize.

6 dll2000  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:28:09am

The socialists are feeling their oats. Every once in awhile they forget that they are supposed to hide their true feelings in public.

Happens when they start winning elections based on false premises.

7 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:28:40am

Anti-Journalism? Isn't that a war crime? Call the ICC.

8 saltmarsh  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:29:36am

The fellow travelers are still very much around.

9 el greco  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:29:36am

Well, thats why I don't look at the WaPo any more. Freakin communist rag.

10 BabbaZee  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:29:54am
Arkin Blast Critics As "Arrogant and Intolerant"

Yea, SO?
I've been called much worse things by much better people.

11 MoleOnABull  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:30:09am

What a loser!

I read his piece yesterday... absolutely disgusting.

Had to take a shower afterwards. It was that dirty.

12 Golem Akbar  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:30:28am

Washington Post loves to hate America, too. But it's really all about love.

13 mglazer  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:30:59am

Lots of Leftist Christian Moonbats Down-under

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

They Love Osama - Churchs' signs declare jesus' love for osama at multiple Chruches in Aussie land

14 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:31:09am

Last sentence of his "column":

the arrogant and intolerant few who think they are above the people seem to be those who are wearing the uniform.

Wormtongue.

15 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:31:21am
The notion then that we should defer to the military to fight when and how and where they want is absurd. As the debate about the Iraq war demonstrates, war-making is a shared endeavor and the arrogant and intolerant few who think they are above the people seem to be those who are wearing the uniform.


What a dick.

16 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:31:31am

I knew this schmuck would play the victim. Typical liberal asshat. Slander the troops, get excoriated for it, and then whine about intolerance.

I am so �$%!# sick of these people.

Whiny WaPo Blogger Plays Victim Card

17 Darwin Akbar  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:31:44am

"Arrogant and Intolerant"?

This from the guy who wrote that soliders needed to shut up and stop disagreeing with the American media?

Pot, call kettle.

18 Padre  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:31:48am

Reading too many fiction novels will turn you into a moonbat like this.

19 mglazer  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:32:28am

The MEdia is the Enemy

20 Peacekeeper  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:32:35am
21 Walter E. Wallis  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:32:48am

What a clever little man.

22 WeddingGuy  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:33:47am

Personally, I think the guy has a drinking problem. He must have been drunk when he wrote that article.

23 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:33:53am

I would never advocate violence, or breaking the law, but wouldn't it be fun to gut punch this a-hole, and then kick his teeth in when he was down?

24 mglazer  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:34:21am

Baby MoonBats raised by Momma Moonbats grow up to be adult Moonbats isolated in their little elitists moonbat ivory towers free from criticism

These young adults are born and bred moonbats they dont know real world America outside of their boob tubes

25 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:34:33am

And I repeat what I posted yesterday:

mercenaries

are the teachers, the university professors, the journalists of the MSM, and the unions' guys


screw them


/save Goddessoftheclassroom, of course

26 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:34:37am

From the audio...

The troops are our servants.


wow.

27 lawhawk  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:34:55am

This from the same anti-US leftists who accuse those who support the war chicken hawks because we're not in uniform.

He denigrates those who believe that a call to serve this nation. He believes that those who believe that fighting (and dying) for a country that has gone to war to defend and spread freedom is a concept that deserves nothing but scorn, ridicule, and worse.

These soldiers, sailors and Marines serve to protect the Constitution, including the right to free speech and the press - the very rights that Arkin uses to show the world his utter stupidity, ignorance, and classlessness.

The WaPo must be proud.

BTW, this isn't the worst screeds to be published by the WaPo. I think letting the various terrorists get a free slot on the op/ed page was worse. This, however, shows that the anti-US leftists have free rein to throw their opinions around in the newsroom and no one will take them to task because they're the ones in charge.

28 Perry  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:35:06am

Chris Muir's strip is on this subject today...[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]

/messy post. Poop.

29 mglazer  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:35:17am

Is he the clone of the jerk from the LA times "I DONT Support the troops" - Joel Stein (?) ?

30 psaturn  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:35:20am

So by insulting the troop he says that he supports the troop? Is this the same thing as saying that we love him by insulting the author's mother? For bringing him to the world?

31 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:35:42am

Either they're overwhelmed on his latest post or they're practicing intolerance by shutting down the comments.

I tried to post something but it won't go through and I get some "Movable Type" error.

I missed him with Skeletor last night, but that's probably a good thing. The two of them at once may have induced considerable rage.

32 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:35:54am

#23 Ed Mahmoud
I'd rather see it done by the troops.

33 DIAMONDMASC  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:35:56am

I actually feel kinda sorry for this POS, he will never know what its like to serve and be a part of something greater than himself, I'm sure he's the toast of the cocktail circuit right now, but unlike soldiers (who would die to protect him) those kind of people will stab you in the back or just discard him at a moments whim, we are stronger for (alleged) people like this, it shows us just what is important for real americans

34 StinkHammer  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:35:58am

Typical. Whenever those damn hayseed rubes dare express criticism based on their own values, why, they're nothing more than

anti-Democrat, anti-liberal, anti-journalism, anti-dissent, and anti-citizen

This unmitigated goon means nothing to me.

/excuse me while I yawn

35 Black George Bush  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:36:21am
anti-journalism

Can someone explain what exactally that means?

36 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:36:29am

Well, if Osama bin Laden accepted Jesus as The Son of God made flesh, was baptized, and truly repented, he would be fully forgiven. By God, that is. True repentance would include facing up to what he had done, and turning himself over to the civil authorities for prosecution, then a lifetime in jail or the death penalty.

37 Necklace of Shoes  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:36:40am

Bear with me.

I'm reminded of the Saturday after 911 in Manhattan as workers were assembling near the Javitts' Center for deployment to the pit. A man stopped and stared at the workers ammassed and spit out "You are all doing this just to make yourselves fee better!"
I thought the man had forgotten his meds and feared for his safety. Instead of a confrontation the workers erupted into a spontaneous rendition of The Star Spangled Banner.
The cops stepped in and escorted the man out of the area and I was left to ponder what I just witnessed.
I wonder if that man answered to Arkin.

38 Geepers  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:37:24am

When your forte is stupid, aspire to be the sombrerro of asshats.

39 thedopefishlives  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:38:06am

The man is a certified asshole. What more need be said?

40 TalkinKamel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:38:41am

"The notion then that we should defer to the military to fight when and how and where they want is absurd. As the debate about the Iraq war demonstrates, war-making is a shared endeavor and the arrogant and intolerant few who think they are above the people seem to be those who are wearing the uniform."

But---but---jeekers, Mr. Arkin! What about all those on left who criticize Conservatives as "Chickenhawks", because they're not enlisted in the military? According to them, it is only soldiers who have the right to make judgements about wars, and the rest of us shouldn't say anything about it! Are all these Leftist wrong? No, no, Leftists are always right---no, no, the right is EVIL! But the Left is always Good, yes? So how can it be mistaken?

(Does this mean we won't have to counter anymore tiresome "Chickenhawk" arguments? One hopes, but it's a bad old world, after all. . . )

And what about moms like Cindy Sheehan, whose moral authority is, supposedly, beyond question, because they've lost a son in the war? Can they still exercise their freedom of speech, or is that verbotten now, because they're connected with the evil military?

(Can't wait for the Cage of Match of Death Battle, as Cindy and William duke it out, to see which one of them possess the most unimpeachable moral authority.)

P.S. Many thanks, Charles, for posting about Arkin's response!

41 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:38:46am

He's certainly an expert on arrogance, intolerance and contempt for the American people. He's not fit to spit-shine an American soldier's boots.

42 wargammer2005  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:39:31am

the troops are anti_Democratic?

the troops dont like those that want to cut and run?

the troops dont like thsoe that by their words and deeds are getting more of them killed?


i bet this ass think the Constitution is a "Living Document" that can be modified anytime it suits him.

too bad the troops are fighting to defend this ass.

43 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:40:02am
So, we pay the soldiers a decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead, defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are above society?


WTF is he talking about?

44 mglazer  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:40:22am

JournaPhobics!

YOu need to go to rehab for behavior modification

we will hold many conferences to highlight to racial profiling of Journalists and the evil JournaPhobics

45 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:40:57am

Speaking of arrogance and intolerance:

Pelosi Seeks Military Flights

She wants her family chauffered around on military flights as well. You get to pick up the tab.

46 mglazer  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:41:50am

LIberals are the new Racists Paternalistc 'DO WHAT I SAY' facist creeps

THey will rob your freedom from right under your nose

47 ggt  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:41:59am

In the liberal wet-dream all civilians & police will be dis-armed and their "mercenary" soldiers will be the only one's armed.

They should be very careful who they insult.

48 TalkinKamel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:42:21am

#30 psaturn

See, it's like the abusive husband/father, who beats his wife when she burns dinner, and flogs his kids with a belt when they bring home less than A+'s.

It's because he loves them, see? And because he loves them, he wants them to be better! He wants to improve them, and make them good! And he's the one who knows what's good for them, by G-d, and they'll obey him, and live up to his standards, or else!

It's for their own good.

(Actually, I suspect Arkin doesn't even use that fig leaf for his hatred of America---he just hates it, pure and simple, and longs for the day when some dictator will take over, and MAKE America behave!)

49 Bearster  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:44:12am

I saw on the other entry about Arkin that he has a socialist and environmentalist background. What could possibly be in common between socialism, environmentalism, and pacifism?

50 de La Valette  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:45:45am

Anti-journalism? Little Communists like Arkin want real journalism. Like Pravda.

51 whatistruth  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:46:04am

Just another example of the excrement that results, in word and person, when a "profession" (i.e., journalism) fails to exercise prudent birth control.

52 yesandno  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:48:05am

I fear the Islamfascist ideology,


but I fear the religion of the Liberal American-Hater even more...

lots of worshipers at the Church of Anti-Americanism...and it has become a main-stream religion.

53 shortboard surfer  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:48:09am

WaPo 3-year stock performance

[Link: www.investorguide.com...]

54 the new Æstetic  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:48:10am

Please indulge in what this soldier in Iraq wrote in response to Arkin's post last night. It is long, but very necessary reading.

Part One

I am tired of people / liberals saying they are patriotic and then insulting my commander in chief and the way he goes about his job.

I am tired of people / liberals who tell me they support me, the soldier on the ground, and then tell me the best plan to win this war is with a "phased redeployment" (liberal-speak for retreat) out of the combat zone to someplace like Okinawa.

I am tired of the people / liberals whining for months on T.V., in the New York Times, and in the House and Senate that we need more troops to win the war in Iraq, and then when my Commander in Chief plans to do just that, they say that is the wrong plan, it won't work, and we need a "new direction."

I am tired of every Battalion Sergeant Major and Command Sergeant Major I see over here being more concerned about whether or not I am wearing my uniform in the "spot on," most garrison-like manner; instead of asking me whether or not I am getting the equipment I need to win the fight, the support I need from my chain of command, or if the chow tastes good.

I am tired of junior and senior officers continually doubting the technical expertise of junior enlisted soldiers who are trained far better to do the jobs they are trained for than these officers believe.

I am tired of senior officers and commanders who fight this war with more of an eye on the media than on the enemy, who desperately needs killing.

I am tired of the decisions of Sergeants and Privates made in the heat of battle being scrutinized by lawyers who were not there and will never really know the state of mind of the young soldiers who were there and what is asked of them in order to survive.

I am tired of CNN claiming that they are showing "news," with videotape sent to them by terrorists, of my comrades being shot at by snipers, but refusing to show what happens when we build a school, pave a road, hand out food and water to children, or open a water treatment plant.

I am tired of following the enemy with drones that have cameras, and then dropping bombs that sometimes kill civilians; because we could do a better job of killing the right people by sending a man with a high powered rifle instead.

I am tired of the thousands of people in the rear who claim that they are working hard to support me when I see them with their mochas and their PX Bags walking down the street, in the middle of the day, nowhere near their workspaces.

55 the new Æstetic  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:48:29am

Part Two

I am tired of Code Pink, Daily Kos, Al-Jazzera, CNN, Reuters, the Associated Press, ABC, NBC, CBS, the ACLU, and CAIR thinking that they somehow get to have a vote in how we blast, shoot and kill these animals who would seek to subdue us and destroy us.

I am tired of people like Meredith Vieria from NBC asking oxygen thieves like Senator Chuck Hagel questions like "Senator, at this point, do you think we are fighting and dying for nothing?" Meredith might not get it, but soldiers do know the difference between fighting and dying for something and fighting and dying for nothing.

I am tired of hearing multiple stories from both combat theaters about snipers begging to do their jobs while commanders worry about how the media might portray the possible casualties and what might happen to their career.

I am tired of hearing that the Battalion Tactical Operations Center got a new plasma screen monitor for daily briefings, but rifle scope rings for sniper rifles, extra magazines, and necessary field gear were disapproved by the unit supply system.

I am tired of out of touch general officers, senators, congressmen and defense officials who think that giving me some more heavy body armor to wear is helping me stay alive. Speed is life in combat and wearing 55 to 90 pounds of gear for 12 to 20 hours a day puts me at a great tactical disadvantage to the idiot, mindless terrorist who is wearing no armor at all and carrying an AK-47 and a pistol.

I am tired of soldiers who are stationed in places like Kuwait and who are well away from any actual combat getting Hostile Fire/Imminent Danger Pay and the Combat Zone Tax Exclusion when they live on a base that has a McDonald's, a Pizza Hut, a Subway, a Baskin Robbins, an internet café, 2 coffee shops and street lights.

I am tired of senior officers and commanders who take it out and "measure" every time they want to have a piece of the action with their helicopters or their artillery; instead of putting their egos aside and using their equipment to support the grunt on the ground.

I am tired of senior officers and commanders who are too afraid for their careers to tell the truth about what they need to win this war to their bosses so that the soldiers can get on with kicking the ass of these animals.

I am tired of Rules of Engagement being made by JAG lawyers and not Combat Commanders. We are not playing Hopscotch over here. There is no 2nd place trophy either. I think that if the enemy knew some rough treatment and some deprivation was at hand for them, instead of prayer rugs, special diets and free Korans; this might help get their terrorist minds "right."

I am tired of seeing Active Duty Army and Marine units being extended past their original redeployment dates, when there are National Guard Units that have yet to deploy to a combat zone in the last 40 years.

I am tired of hearing soldiers who are stationed in safe places talk about how hard their life is.

I am tired of seeing Infantry Soldiers conducting what amounts to "SWAT" raids and performing the US Army's version of "CSI Iraq" and doing things like filling out forms for evidence when they could be better used to hunt and kill the enemy.

I am tired of senior officers and commanders who look first in their planning for how many casualties we might take, instead of how many enemy casualties we might inflict.

I am tired of begging to be turned loose so that this war can be over.

56 the new Æstetic  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:48:54am

Part Three

Those of us who fight this war want to win it and go home to their families. Prolonging it with attempts to do things like collect "evidence" or present whiz bang briefings on a new plasma screen TV is wasteful and ultimately, dulls the edge of our Infantry soldiers who are trained to kill people and break things, not necessarily in that order.

We are not in Iraq and Afghanistan to build nations. We are there to kill our enemies. We make the work of the State Department easier by the results we achieve.

It is only possible to defeat an enemy who kills indiscriminately by utterly destroying him. He cannot be made to yield or surrender. He will fight to the death by the hundreds to kill only one or two of us.

And so far, all of our "games" have been "away games," and I don't know about the ignorant, treasonous Democrats and the completely insane radical leftists and their thoughts on the matter, but I would like to keep our road game schedule.

So let's get it done. Until the fight is won and there is no more fight left.

Posted by: A soldier | January 31, 2007 11:36 PM

57 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:49:28am

#49 Bearster

What could possibly be in common between socialism, environmentalism, and pacifism?

All the three:

- pies in the sky
- based on ideology, not on science
- allow you to criticize America
- in their more extreme forms, tend to subvert the Republic in a way or another

58 Iron Fist[deleted]  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:49:33am
59 Treesarie  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:49:45am

Arkin states in the interview that the military no longer represents the views of the American people. Moonbats can sign up for the military, if they would like, after all this is America.

I doubt there will be a surge of recruitment in the lefty cities.

60 tfc3rid  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:50:21am

This guy is a joke. Methinks we are seeing the complete disintegration of the MSM right now... Between the LA Times crap from the weekend and this asshat...

If we cannnot counter these voices, we're doomed.

61 Pete(Detroit)  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:50:35am
hide behind the constitution and the flag and then spew an anti-Democrat, anti-liberal, anti-journalism

Yeah, and that's why we love 'em.
They GET it.

62 Sgt.Slappy  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:50:36am
They hide behind the constitution and the flag and then spew an anti-Democrat idiot, anti-liberal moron, anti-journalism monkey-at-a-keyboard, anti-dissent quisling, and anti-citizen useful idiot... message that reflects a certain contempt for the American people domestic enemies of the American people.

There, that looks about right.

63 phoenixgirl  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:52:00am

okay, now I'm confused...at the protest last Saturday, didn't we hear that the overwhelming majority of the military were against the war? just like the majority of stay at home americans?

64 Geepers  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:52:11am

Apparently Arkin was a Army Officer baby killing mercenary himself.

65 DIAMONDMASC  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:52:12am

Sarge, the WAPO needs you as senior editor and proofreader, when can you start?

66 funky chicken  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:52:18am

23 Ed I'm a petite woman. Yes, that would be lots of fun, especially if I got to do the kicking.

Or maybe I'd get my soccer star to do it for me.

67 strandedsf  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:52:41am

You know, Charles, I think I've just about reached my limit on bilious leftist spewing for the day and it's not even 9 am yet...as our forces mass in the Persian Gulf and on the Iranian border...I need some light humor...where's a Peace Duck when you need one?

/sigh

68 Lorenska  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:53:11am

I'm climbing out of my skin here, there are so many thoughts and arguments I need to scream that the words will never come out coherently, so I'm just going to make one little comment, then I'm going to try to lower my blood pressure...there are so many things in this column that prove he has NO CLUE what he's talking about, but these few little words really bothered me for some reason:

Again, I understand the frustration of those in uniform ...

No. No. NO YOU DON'T. Nor do I. Nor does anyone who's never worn the uniform or stepped into a hellhole such as Iraq (or Afghanistan or Germany or any of the other luxury resorts our servicemen voluntarily go). I support the troops with every fiber of my being, but I will never be arrogant enough to claim that I know how they feel or what they're going through or how 'frustrated' they are...I DON'T know, I CAN'T know, and the most I can offer is sympathy, empathy, support and prayers, but I can never offer true understanding, and neither can Arkin. There are so many things in this column that make me cringe, but that one really struck me, for some reason - don't insult someone and belittle what they do, when what they do allows YOU to live a better life, and then claim to know 'how frustrated they are' with you. Shut up.

69 Sgt.Slappy  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:53:12am

No, not quite right... sorry.

They hide behind proudly stand by the constitution and the flag...

70 funky chicken  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:53:56am

43 Ed The obscene amenities? I'd guess that's the wet wipes and chap stick. Or maybe the Pringles potato chips?

They don't get cigarrettes anymore, so at least the leftists should feel good about that.

71 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:54:02am

Let's have a look at him.

Always good to know what these asshats look like, just in case you ever stumble across one of them in public.

72 Geepers  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:55:52am
where's a Peace Duck when you need one?

[BANG]
[BANG]

[BANG]


Oh. Sorry.

73 mglazer  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:56:38am

THe Media Facade has Fallen

The Internet Has taken the Mask Off

THe MAtrix is no longer holding us prisoners

We are Free From Their LIES

74 Dustoff-507  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:57:24am

Now I need ANOTHER drink.

75 Greg  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:57:41am

#26 Kilgore Trout
...quote...
From the audio...


The troops are our servants.

wow.
...unquote...
---
Well Arkin old piece of felating MSM whore, you are going to GET SERVED if you keep it up you bad mouthing of the armed services.

76 pat  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:58:12am

Isn't it hearenting that we have such patriots like Arkin and his fellow WaPos insructing the military scum on their proper place in society?

77 mayweed  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:58:48am

Let's remember not to heap all of our scorn on this hapless little retard. Remember, his editor must have seen this obscene article prior to printing, and was obviously happy to see it published.

78 LauraC  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:59:02am

I've compiled a list of Arkin's blog advertisers and their contact info here, along with the code so it can conveniently be reposted.

It's useless to tell Arkin what scum he is - coming from us that's high praise. Tell his advertisers instead.

79 cptham  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:59:21am

Oh yeah, I remember the obscene amenities shipped in while I was living in a abandoned Iraqi motor pool building like MRE's and bottled desalinated water. My wife shipped me the real obscene amenities bless her little heart.

80 strandedsf  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:59:36am

#72 Geepers:

where's a Peace Duck when you need one?
[BANG]
[BANG]

[BANG]

Oh. Sorry.

ROFL. Thanks.

81 dll2000  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:59:49am

#49 Bearster

I saw on the other entry about Arkin that he has a socialist and environmentalist background. What could possibly be in common between socialism, environmentalism, and pacifism?

I know you were being facetious and you know the answer but here it is anyway.

All means to an end. The establishment of a marxist state in the U.S.

Socialism is the ideology. Environmentalism is just another tool to gode the unwitting into attacking capitalism. Pacifism is a way to embarass the U.S. and strengthen Socialist leaning foreign states. If you notice the pacifism only applies to U.S. military action, it isnt really a principal in which they believe.

82 realwest  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 6:59:50am

#33 DIAMONDMASC - I checked out Mr. Arkin's bio which Charles was kind enough to post last evening.
He served as an officer in the US Army from 1974 to 1978, as an intelligence officer. Without going into all the jokes about military intelligence us former grunts are used to making, I'd wager a whole lot of money that, during his his time in service, he never heard nor fired a shot in anger. Yet he presumes to judge those who are in the heat of battle as, basically, sub-human. And this is the guy WaPo choose as it's "Military Analyist".
I'd like to suggest that, fun though it may be, we simply stop discussing this man and what he writes and says and start asking why the WaPo can't get a more qualified "military analyist" on it's Staff.

83 Axiom  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:00:29am

Arkin is actually the kind of fella you would assume would be a welcome alternative to mainstream journalists that LACK military experience. The Pentagon says a lot of reporting from journalist suffers because few, if any, ever served their country in uniform. Arkin has served, yet his writing is among the worst that appears on the Internet. Certainly he makes the top 5 for worst columnists that are published by the major newspapers.

He still uses an @igc.org email address. IGC is an internet services organization for users that view Castro as a moderate.

84 Gordon  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:00:34am

Sorry Lizards, the Iraq war will soon be over, Americans will no longer be killing Muslims there. You'll have to get your jollies in some other way.

85 pat  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:02:06am

Gordon's Sharia #1
Only Muslims can kill Muslims.

86 Ojoe  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:03:40am

Mr. Arkin, if you have a better way to stop the islamic menace than by fighting it with soldiers, I'd like to hear it.

Jerk.

87 realwest  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:32:48am

#84 Gordon - Hey Gordon! Long Time No See!
So if the war in Iraq is soon to be over, I assume you won't object if our troops exit through Iran and Syria, right?

88 the new Æstetic  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:34:31am

Wow, the notorious Gordon. How does it feel to be an idiot?

89 McNug  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:35:23am

I'm not anti-journalism. I'm just anti-journalists.

90 maddogg  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:35:54am

I just had an inspiring vision! Wouldn't Arkin make an absolutely stunning addition to an impalement stake?

Gordon; lick my balls:)

91 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:36:05am

.

Americans will no longer be killing Muslims there

muslims can kill muslims much better than us, we are a little slow because of the RoEs

we can go fight on some other front in the world war of islam against Freedom, while the lovely iraqis kill other lovely iraqis by the tens of thousands...

92 pegcity  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:37:10am

honestly now hes just being cute, he read the replies to the last article and decided hes going to go down with the ship.

93 Ginn  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:37:53am

Isn't the point here is that this person is the "military affairs" analyst for the LA Times?

Wasn't the editor of the Times recently fired or "quit?"

Does Arkin still work for the Times?

94 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:37:57am

#88 the new AEstetic

How does it feel to be an idiot?

s/he-they don't know, because s/he-they is/are idiot/s.

95 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:40:04am

I see Asshat Nodrog got is on the computer today.


So Nodrog worked for the city government in a small Oregon city. Meter maid, perhaps?

96 Lorenska  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:40:31am

Ok, I'm the first to correct myself when I'm wrong (right after my husband, usually, but he's not here right now)...I admit that before I wrote my last post, accusing Arkin of not knowing how soldiers really feel, I did not know he had done an Army stint, so I'll re-phrase. He still didn't serve in wartime, so even having worn the uniform, he could not possibly know how our soldiers feel right now...even had he served in wartime, there's never been a war like this one, where the enemy does not wear a uniform and could be ANYONE, where they take special delight in harming civilians, in inflicting the most horrendous torture imaginable, and where there is no hope of ever negotiating or reasoning with them...so I still stand by my statement that he can't possibly 'understand how frustrated' they are, and I definitely stand by my statement that he should just shut up.

97 wargammer2005  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:40:35am

#13 mglazer


as a Christan i have to love osama also.

but as i love him as Jesus told me too, that means that i must do all that i can to stop him from hurting others and hurting his own soul (that he injures by hurting others).

if that means that i must kill him to protect others, then i will do that. i may hate what he stand for, i may hate what he does, i may hate the evil he has in his heart.

98 oilbertan  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:40:38am

This is all so confusing. I thought that the only ones allowed to comment on war were people who actually served? Perhaps it is meant only in the past tense thus allowing JFK and Charlie to disparage the military. Perhaps someone at WAPO should take this moron aside and explain to him, better to be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.

99 sloggin420[deleted]  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:41:12am
100 distwalker  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:41:12am

"If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world, but I am sure we would be getting reports from Hell before breakfast." -William Tecumseh Sherman

101 Sgt.Slappy  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:41:35am
Sarge, the WAPO needs you as senior editor and proofreader, when can you start?

I would rather live for a week in a festering DC sewer below Marion "bitch-set-me-up" Barry's crack house, than spend a minute in the halls of that news rag... though I imagine it would be awfully hard to tell the difference between the two.

102 brent  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:42:39am

Seriously, scratch an anti-war lib, and what do you get? A hateful, ugly person that views the rest of America with less than contempt.

My niece's hubby just got word he's been extended for another 4 mos (afghanistan, mountain division / rangers) - you can just imagine how this kind of crap goies over in our fam, to my niece who now is waiting 4 more months while dipsh*ts like ths strut and crow.

F*ck this guy; he is not worthy of any further fame or attention. Or O2, but that's not my call.

103 jwm  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:43:14am

William Arkin is an evil man.

JWM

104 DIAMONDMASC  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:44:14am

I say we put some hardpoints on that peace duck, see how much ordinance he can carry

105 neverpayretail  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:44:17am

Arkin vs. "the right" is usual partisan politics founded on emotional bias.

The left calls the right arrogant and intolerant. The right gives them fuel by calling the left hateful. Regardless of who is right, it is an endless emotional back-and-forth.

The real problem is Islam, and there is no leadership guiding attention to the real problem. So, we end up endlessly fighting each other. This does not serve the interests of freedom. It serves the interests of Islam (=tyranny).

I have a sneaking suspicion a media commercial interest to expand readership is also served by all the name-calling.

106 wargammer2005  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:44:49am

Gordon

got those kerry records you promised us?

if not, please find them, will ya?

after all, a promise if a promise...

107 Babydoc97  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:45:53am

I am so proud of my 7 children...even my little 7 year old son was able to understand the hypocrisy, bile and asshat arrogance of this unmitigated piece of marxist filth.

Course...I teach all my kids to read by starting with "Animal Farm" and "1984"...

108 Deb  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:45:54am

He considers his piece in the Washington Post "philosophic."

Dear God.

109 ec marm  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:46:06am

This little helper is for you, nodroG

110 campisi  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:46:17am

Liberals must face up to the fact that the vast majority of military personell support the Iraq mission. Libs don't therefore the two groups ARE political enemies. Hard to support what you despise.

111 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:47:15am

#105 Neverpayretail

Without the subversive left and the subversive media, the problem of islam would have already been solved.

And if islam could see a Free world NOT divided by the subversives, it would think more than twice before moving...

112 wargammer2005  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:47:47am

also gordon

please tell us how many muslims the US has killed
how many Israel has killed

and then tell us how many other muslim nations have killed.

the US and Israel still have a lot of work to do to get anywhere near those killed by other muslims, but i would guess after iran gets nukes we may, sadly, get our chance.

113 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:47:57am

Quite On Topic:
The Religion of the Left Has a New Saint:
found via Druge:
Molly Ivins Dies

May God have mercy on her soul.

114 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:49:21am

#106 Wargammer2005

got those kerry records you promised us?

kerry's military papers ? The true ones ? How can the Nodrog go to Hanoi ?

115 schlagerman  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:50:26am

I propose that any journalist who doesn't believe we're in a struggle with Islamic terrorism for our very existence be stripped of their press credentials. If meteorologists that don't believe in man-made global warming should lose their AMS certification, then why shouldn't journalists who don't think we're at risk lose their press credentials?

116 realwest  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:51:41am

#96 Lorenska - "there's never been a war like this one, where the enemy does not wear a uniform and could be ANYONE, where they take special delight in harming civilians, in inflicting the most horrendous torture imaginable, and where there is no hope of ever negotiating or reasoning with them..."
Um, please see Vietnam War - at least before the North Vietnamese Army joined full tilt boogie in the fight, the Viet-Cong didn't wear uniforms, could and frequently were ANYONE (including the old Mama-Sans who'd clean out your tent for a buck a day, then measure the distance to the Commo bunker, Ammo bunker and etc. and pass that information along to VC mortar crews. That's why I posted my #82.
Arkin has NO IDEA what it's like to even fire a shot in anger or have ROE's that prohibit returning fire from "friendly villages" without permission from higher authority.
And no, other than the above and the sanctuaries the "freedom fighters" have in Syria and Iran (like the VC and NVA had in Laos and Cambodia) I do NOT think this WoT is like Vietnam nor do I see this as a quagmire.

117 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:53:29am

"Arrogant and Intolerant"

For daring to disagree with his authoritarian screed? Note that Arkin's original piece consisted of little besides demonizing generalizations and clairvoyant projections of what large numbers of people collectively think and feel. This is beyond arrogance, it is genuine megalomania.
As for intolerance, the left is becoming more and more open in stating its belief that opposition to their view really is a violation of their rights, a criminal act.
Yet this strident Stalinist remains at the very center of the media-industrial complex.

Civil war is coming, folks.

Can there be any doubt who the real enemy is?

118 Crainial Access  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:55:07am

We are witnessing the beginning of the end of our country. The media and all politicians are consolidating their power and perks. 95% of Americans obtain their day to day information from the elite leftist media and believe everything they see and hear from them.

Its time to throw the tea in the harbor again...get your battle rifle soon...before Hillary is elected.

119 Doug  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:56:04am

#71 Ringo the Gringo

Thanks for the photo (if I ever see him I will take Ed's advice and literally beat the shit out of him).

But I see he's standing in the "Women's Fiction" section.

How appropriate.

120 IPLaw  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:56:51am

Alas, he falls in line with today's "liberals" and asserts that only his speech should be free.

Assuming, arguendo, that our soldiers are vicious, murderous thugs, then exactly who is "hiding behind" the constitution?

Arkin is an intellectual joke.

121 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:57:02am

#112 wargammer2005

and then tell us how many other muslim nations have killed.

I would add: killed because they were not Muslim. Killed in accordance with Islamic teaching.

And how many Muslims have the Allies killed for the same religious reasons? Are American soldiers killing and maiming people becuase they aren't Christian? Is the IDF killing and maiming people becuase they are not Jews, or becuase they don't follow the Torah? Hell, no. This is not nuance. The stark difference is not hidden in a magic-eye image. It could not be more clear. Which makes me see that the left could not be more willfully blind if they tried, and they do try.

--Taq

122 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:58:02am

#117 Shiplord Kirel

the left is becoming more and more open in stating its belief that opposition to their view really is a violation of their rights, a criminal act.

whoever disagrees with the "great dream" of building world-communism can only be a fascists,

hence if you disagree you are a fascist

therefore...they kill you

That's why I call them marxofascists.

123 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 7:59:21am

What a f*king utter puke! Military analyst, my ass. More like Keith Olbermann butt buddy. Take your punishment like a man, boy!

Libs like this think freedom of expression is a one way street. Once someone resorts to disagreement with their worthless opinion by calling it what it is, gutless chicken shit drivel, these cowards start crawling to Mecca like they're some poor victim.

Good thing Arkin served in the military when he did after the Dims had practically gutted it in the late 70s and tried to make the military known as a place for losers and baby killers. If Arkin served in today's fabulous military, they would frag this a**hole and I would help them.

124 Lorenska  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:00:22am

realwest:

Well, as I said before, I'm always willing to be corrected and admit when I'm wrong, and believe it or not, as I clicked 'post' on my last comment, I thought, "I worded that badly, of course the VietCong were just as unpredictable, unidentifiable and cruel as those we're fighting today..." - but you obviously got my gist and hopefully understand my point that nothing Arkin did during his Army stint could possibly allow him to 'understand the frustration' of today's troops. I am lucky enough to have no idea what the current troops OR those who fought in Vietnam have endured, I can only know that my life is a pretty easy one thanks to the fact that our troops keep the threat on the other side of an ocean from me.

125 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:00:23am

#118 Cranial Access

You could be right, a new revolution may well be in the offing as forces that have been dominant for 40 years dig in against challenges to their power. This is all the more true because these forces are preferentially composed of pathological power-seekers and narcissists.

Leftists assert that sedition, calling for the overthrow of the Constitutional government, is not illegal. How much less, then, can they assert that calling for the overthrow of an illegitimate shadow government, the leftist media complex, is illegal?

126 Killer Tomato  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:00:37am

#116 realwest

other than the above and the sanctuaries the "freedom fighters" have in Syria and Iran (like the VC and NVA had in Laos and Cambodia) I do NOT think this WoT is like Vietnam


With the inclusion of politicians micro-managing from afar, I agree with you.
The left wants it to be like Vietnam.
Their response/behavior is just like it was then. They want the same thing they did then - 'just say we won and leave'. And the result will be the slaughter of countless innocents - just like it was back then.
THEN it will be just like Vietnam. And it will be THEIR fault.

127 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:01:27am

#115 Schlagerman

If meteorologists that don't believe in man-made global warming should lose their AMS certification, then why shouldn't journalists who don't think we're at risk lose their press credentials?

Because we ALREADY live under the PC dictatorship.

128 wargammer2005  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:01:57am

Poitiers-Lepanto

except the difference between facism and comunism is just a few letters in the name.

both want control in the hands of the few.

both allow no opposistion to survive.

and there are a lot of other shared beliefs, it is just who is in charge, me or him, that matters.

129 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:03:08am

Arkin has defined a new category of thoughtcrime: "Anti-journalism" ie supporting the overthrow of the media-industrial complex.

130 Maximu§  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:03:19am

This article is the final nail in the coffin for the Washington Post.
I was a soldier in a combat MOS and my sons will follow in my footsteps, because its people like us that give Mr. Arkin the rights he enjoys.

SOB!

131 Orbit Rain  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:04:30am

This Arkin guy thinks he's a mind-reader, who is the arrogant one again? He doesn't know shit.

132 neverpayretail  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:04:37am

111 PL

I agree with you. Would you agree that focusing on calling each other names does not bring us together, but only encourages more name-calling, and hence, division?

133 stuiec  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:04:45am

I find it fascinating when you call people like Mr. Arkin on their plainly-stated comments, and then they respond by saying "I never said" exactly what they said. Do they forget that their words can be quoted verbatim back to them?

134 Paul Atreides  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:05:35am
They hide behind the constitution and the flag the courts and then spew an anti-Democrat anti-Republican, anti-liberal anti-conservative, anti-journalism anti-free speech, anti-dissent, and anti-citizen message that reflects a certain contempt for the American people.

Funny, how everything that a liberal says applies to themselves more than it does about the people of whom they speak.

135 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:06:10am

#84 Gordon,

Sorry Lizards, the Iraq war will soon be over, Americans will no longer be killing Muslims there. You'll have to get your jollies in some other way.

Good point. I'm going to get my jollies by watching them kill militant Muslims in Iran and Dearborn.

136 Maximu§  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:09:30am

#113 Taqiyyotomist

I read about this Hag this morning, I noticed she did'nt leave any kids behind, cause no Man would come within 10 feet of her...the picture in the article you posted made me cringe.

A typical Man-Hating Liberal who probably spent a lifetime attacking Christians and the military.

137 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:10:16am

#132 Neverpayretail

I doubt you really agree with my answer. There is no "name calling" on this side, we simply tell that truth that without the Internet had been carefully hidden for decades and when we do this the subversive left starts screaming and calling names.

THEY have a subversive project to overthrow the Republic and they use even the islamists to make America weaker...you have just to read the archives of LGF and realize that the left doesn't make "mistakes" while being actually "patriotic". They just hate America because they have this marxist ideology in their heads that tells them that capitalism is satan.

Of course everything would be different if instead of having a SUBVERSIVE left we had a WESTERN, decent, patriotic left.

138 Paul Atreides  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:10:28am
You'll have to get your jollies in some other way.

Such as waiting for the next big Dim majority blunder of the day.

By the way, Gordon, are you clean and articulate?

139 schlagerman  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:10:46am

#127 Poitiers-Lepanto

That was a rhetorical question. I'll be surprised if Arkin isn't promoted for his anti-military screed. I'm sure his social calendar is already filled with invitations to DC cocktail parties, where he'll be lauded for daring to write what so many on the left think.

140 mattm  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:12:20am

Arkin is a worthless POS.

141 Crainial Access  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:12:50am

"Its time to throw the tea in the harbor again"

When hillary is elected by the media and their lemmings who populate this land in 2008...our country will have been ruled by the Bush-Clinton aristocracy for 24... potentially 28 years... and you wonder why they cover for each other...

142 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:14:30am

Anyway, the answer by Arkin shows that the subversives now feel a deep fear: they know that the Internet revolution will slowly but consistently destroy the castle of lies they have built for decades.
His aggressivity and his calling names show his fear.

It will be a difficult and long process, but the age of the subversive left will end.

First they lost their beloved USSR, then they lost the control of the information.

They have only one more resource, violence.
That's why they love the islamofascists.

143 SaneInMN  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:15:53am

141...

Clinton covering for Bush? What color is the sky in your world?

144 THX-42  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:18:14am

Looks like the WaPo, NY Times, and LA Times have now dropped their "cloaking devices". There is no more pretense or rhetorical niceties. They are openly at war with our military, Our President, and all conservative Americans. They seek nothing less than the defeat and humiliation of our military, followed thereafter by the dismemberment of the military and the impeachment of our President.

Frankly, I'm no longer interested in reasoned dialogue and logical arguments. It's totally useless. We are truly at a point where nothing less than a civil war will uproot the traitors in our midst - they are that deeply imbedded and that deeply committed to the defeat of our country.

I'm not sure sure what the exact flash point will be, but I am certain it is very near.

145 Paul Atreides  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:18:21am
First they lost their beloved USSR, then they lost the control of the information.


Which brings something to mind: remember when President Bush was elected, then relected, how all of the moonbats threatened to flee to Canada and France, not Communist China or Cuba. I guess that some socialist/communist paradises are more desirable than others.

146 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:19:01am

#133 stuiec

Do they forget that their words can be quoted verbatim back to them?

This is a characteristic fault of present-day leftists, and a tellling throwback to the era of the media-monopoly. British leftists, in particular, are almost laughably vulnerable in this respect.

Before the net, broadcast journalists often really could deny saying what they had said, since there were few, if any, records that the networks did not control.
In the late 70s, CBS sued (I believe) Vanderbilt University over the university's effort to maintain an archive of broadcast journalism. ABC's Don Kladstryp, for example, can safely ignore allegations that he ever justified the torture and murder of American sailor Robert Stethem in 1985, because the only smoking gun is a transcript that was, and is, available only to a select few.
Leftist agitators like Phil Donohue knew that their exact words would vanish into limbo as soon as they were said, leaving only an impression in the minds of the audience and no precise record for critics to present in rebuttal. It was not impossible to get a transcript of the broadcasts but there was no way to present it to a mass audience in a timely manner or in a form that the mass audience could review and check for itself.

Leftists are just not accustomed to immediate review by skeptics and doubters, and this fault is deeply embedded in their rhetorical style.

147 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:19:11am

#139 Schlagerman

That was a rhetorical question

:-)))

As I always say, I don't write here at "university level", I write at an elementary level, in the hope that the occasional lurking moonbat gets hit by something that makes his brain, finally, start.

They are so ignorant that everything needs to be explained clearly and plainly.

And they have their heads full of propaganda and ideologies.

148 RexFeral  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:23:20am

This guy's main complaint is we have a volunteer army. But I assume he wouldn't support drafting troops to fight in Iraq either. What he wants is unilateral disarmament that we might bare our throats to an enemy already altogether to familiar the technique of beheading.

149 wvobiwan  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:23:43am

I think Arkin is jealous of Bin Laden being the most hated subhuman in the US.

I KNOW the comPost is a leftist, anti-American, anti-military, pro-socialist rag, has been since Vietnam.

And by the way as someone else said, the difference between the name calling on the left and the right is that the right is simply telling the unvarnished (translated: "unMedia-ized") truth. This IS our country, I DO love its traditional idealism, and I WILL die in defense of its Constitution, honor, freedom, and way of life before I see its socialist and Islamofacist enemies succeed.

150 neverpayretail  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:24:05am

137 PL

So, I guess you think calling them hateful, as this post explicitly does, is not name-calling, but merely speaking the truth.

My experience is that when discussing matters with leftists in a name-calling fashion, they get emotional. Likewise, when they return in kind, I am more likely to respond emotionally.

The result is negative. I have had better results when I leave out the name-calling. I may not change their minds in that instant, but they walk away not thinking I am arrogant and intolerant, and sometimes, they admit I have a good point to which they have no good response.

Do you find calling them hateful productive?

151 RobCon  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:25:50am

Every American voter should have his whiney voice and his disgusting words in their head when they vote in the next election because he speaks for the majority of the Democract Party, not just the far-left.
If that is wrong, well lets hear them answer this jerk NOW!

152 stuiec  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:28:08am

THE WASHINGTON POST TOOK DOWN THE LINK TO THIS PIECE.

If you click on the Early Warning blog link to reach Arkin's home page, there's no link to the "Arrogant and Intolerant" post.

Did he realize that he'd unveiled too much, or did the blog editor tell him to stop digging himself a deeper hole?

And do these idiots think that they can erase this sort of garbage from the world's consciousness, unspeak the words once they've been spoken?

153 Paul Atreides  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:29:59am
This guy's main complaint is we have a volunteer army. But I assume he wouldn't support drafting troops to fight in Iraq either. What he wants is unilateral disarmament that we might bare our throats to an enemy already altogether to familiar the technique of beheading.

For the past fifty years liberals have been saying that we need to gut the defense budget in favor of more social spending handouts. What we are going through now just galls them that it discredits what they have been saying.

154 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:30:21am

The leftist elite, of course, is composed of pathological narcissists and power-seekers. They are nothing without the rand and file, the vast ignorant masses out there in the hinterland of the media empire. The latter, in turn, are largely and plainly attracted by the trappings of subversion and revolution, the illusion of distinction that has driven the accretion of media power for half a century.
The supreme irony here is that websites like this one are genuinely revolutionary and subversive, while Arkin and his ilk occupy the very pinnacle of corporate power and elitism.

155 Paul Atreides  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:31:45am
Do you find calling them hateful productive?

It's truthful. Not name calling, just the truth.

156 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:34:38am

We are speaking "Truth to power"

Arkin and the rest of leftist media beasts are terrified and desperate. Their fifty year reign of terror is crumbling around them and their massive push for censorship, the Orwellian "Fairness Doctrine," is their only response.

157 LoneSome Journey  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:35:27am
They hide behind the constitution and the flag and then spew an anti-Democrat, anti-liberal, anti-journalism, anti-dissent, and anti-citizen message that reflects a certain contempt for the American people.

A far more correct analysis of our men and women in uniform.

They acknowledge the value of our constitution and show unashamed respect for our flag. They become nauseated at the anti-American filth and sewage spewed by the liberal media and often feel a personal attack when those who claim to represent the nation scream foul epitaphs at the flag, our elected leaders and themselves and others in uniform. They recognize that many in the anti-American mob would be there denouncing this nation regardless of the situation. They have long ago learned that the media in this nation has for decades considered truth, honor, integrity, character and decency to be, not qualities one should aspire to, but are descriptions to be smeared and denigrated.

158 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:35:28am

#150 Neverpayretail

What I find very productive is to take the discussion to the facts: little things like having supported the USSR evil empire and its horrors, having caused the death of millions and millions of people in South East Asia by causing America to "lose"...
Having the will to cause other massacres in Iraq calling for "redeployment"...

These are facts and are facts the left has never been called to answer for.

You know, what a real fascist (nazi-fascist, islamo-fascist, marxo-fascist) thinks of me is not that important.

I am arrogant ? Because I call the left to answer about 100 years of crimes as giant as HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DEATHS ?
If that is being arrogant, we are deeply into the new dark age and the subversives have already suceeded in changing the meaning of words.

159 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:37:33am

Gotta go.
But, to show my deep "respect" for the other side, I will greet you with a leftist classic:

POOP ON !

160 Lorenska  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:37:53am

stuiec: I can still get to the story from the "Columns and Blogs" home page, like I did earlier - I'm not sure why it's not on Arkin's mainpage, but it's still there where it's been all morning, in all it's hateful glory...so maybe he took it off his page himself, but the paper still has it on their main OpEd page.

161 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:38:11am
162 Ellen  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:39:46am

But you see Poiters-Lepanto, that the leftists had such good intentions. For them, intent trumps results - their hearts were in the right place and they had all the correct feeelings. And as that great Pulitzer Prize Winner Walter Duranty (spit) put it -you can't make an omlet without breaking eggs.

163 tangonine  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:41:28am
The Arrogant and Intolerant Speak Out

He's exactly right: I'm probably a little arrogant when it comes to defending the military and I definitely do not tolerate shitbags like Arkin.

Dear Dumbass,

You don't get to spew your shit and then become immune to the feedback. That's not how free speech works, shithead.

Signed,

Everyone

164 Paul Atreides  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:42:55am
You don't get to spew your shit and then become immune to the feedback.

For the left, dissent and dialogue is a one-way-street.

165 stuiec  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:47:06am

#160 Lorenska

I think the link that's still visible is an oversight -- it's not linked from the Politics page (though the blog is), it's not linked from the Opinion page (though the blog is), and it's not linked from Arkin's own blog page. Plus, they shut down new comments to the thread at 11 AM Eastern. It seems to me that they want to pretend this blog entry never existed, and they're too sloppy to get their cover-up right.

166 easy  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:50:07am
anti-Democrat, anti-liberal, anti-journalism, anti-dissent, and anti-citizen


Only the left are allowed opinions, certainly not soldiers. They are our servants. They must keep their place.

/

167 Chuck Pelto  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:51:08am

TO: All
RE: WaPo's Bogus Blog...

...won't accept my latest response to Arkin's latest 'missive'. So I'm providing it here, as well as sending it to the Editor at WaPo.

TO: Arkin
RE: Worse Than We Thought

You're projecting, again, buckie.

In this case, you're projecting that YOU are worse than originally thought. Why the WaPo retains you for such commentary must be some form of sado-masochistic relationship they and you have with reality, e.g., the vast majority of people who live outside the DC beltway.

Having been thoroughly trounced by those who disagree with your earlier POS-article, you now whine like a baby that it's wrong for people who disagree with you to express their disagreement.

How (il)liberal of you. But that's what I've come to expect of most people who claim to be 'liberal'; they are anything BUT. They think Freedom of Speech is meant only for people who agree with them.

Wake up and smell what you've been shoveling.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[A tree is known by its fruit. -- some Wag, 2000 years ago]

168 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:53:07am

#144 THX-42

I'm not sure sure what the exact flash point will be, but I am certain it is very near.

My guess would be a heavy-handed effort by the Demo Congress and a new Demo administration to enforce the so-called "fairness doctine."
I really think the Democratic Party will stop short of that however. They may not want a court fight over bias in the establishment media and that is what they would get in such a situation. They may win the case, thanks to leftist judges, but the testimony and evidence presented would do untold damage to their stock in trade, their bogus credibility. Media beasts like Keith Olbermann or Arkin are arrogant enough to think they would win such a fight, but their political allies may think twice.

169 troonbop  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 8:56:37am

Their claim of "we respect the troops" was just a ploy to try to get respect for their position. It didn't fool anybody, now they're angry. They wasted all that time! Now you'll see the mask dropping more and more often. I suspect, sadly, that arkin's position is not only accepted in moonbat land, but closer to the average democrat than we'd like to think.

170 easy  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 9:00:28am

#43 Ed Mahmoud

WTF is he talking about?


"obscene amenities " means they are not sleeping in holes and eating nothing but MREs.

Reminds me of those damn farmers in their air conditioned tractors.

171 rcris5  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 9:08:36am

152 stuiec

The answer to the question about "unsaying" what has been said is...yes.

The left loons really believe they can say anything and then simply erase it or worse, that you misunderstood their true meaning or intention.

172 neverpayretail  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 9:09:16am

158 & 159 PL

Well. Ok then. I guess I will leave you to it. Thank you for your opinion. I am just not sure I am seeing positive results in the interest of freedom by calling them hateful, and other things, regardless of the truth of such labels. I certainly have had no success using that technique of (non) persuasion.

173 schlagerman  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 9:17:46am

#147 Poitiers-Lepanto

in the hope that the occasional lurking moonbat gets hit by something that makes his brain, finally, start.

When you figure out what that "something" is, let me know!

174 a marine mom  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 9:19:38am

William Arkin who has the unmitigated gull to print those words, let alone think them, offends me to the core. I have had the privilege to talk to busted up Marines who say they would go back over there again in a blink of an eye to keep our enemies out of my backyard.

It really gets in my craw when people like this spew out venom on an issue they know absolutely nothing about. And then has the nerve to call me names if I don’t agree with them. Well Mr. Arkin, I choose to critically think issues and I suggest that before you put your fingers on the keyboard think about how cruel, mean and down right disingenuous you are to your readers.

I have a KIA* bumper sticker on my car for a reason. It’s for a hero.

HERO =
2.

somebody who commits an act of remarkable bravery or who has shown great courage, strength of character, or another admirable quality


3.

somebody who is admired and looked up to for outstanding qualities or achievements:

That Mr. Arkin, is something you know nothing about.

/*Not my son thank G-D.

175 Partisan  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 9:21:40am

Make sure to save a copy..

To batter the author/publisher with in 5, 10, or 15 years.

After they realize how hopelessly prejudiced and misguided they were.

176 daughter of patriots  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 9:30:45am
177 blackelkspeaks  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 9:43:11am

#59 Treesarie

"Arkin states in the interview that the military no longer represents the views of the American people."

It is way past time for all of us here to recognize that Arkin is right on this point. After the last election it should be obvious that this war is lost and the majority of the American people who elected the Jackass party candidates in large numbers lost it. However much we may hate to admit this, Arkin is just one out of many multi-millions of "asshats" in this country.

Just wait to see what happens when the Jackass party consolidates its gains in two years, including achieving the presidency. Then, when the inevitable "24" event happens, and we've got Jackass party members at every level of government as far as the eye can see, this country will be in full panic mode.

God help us all.

178 ColoradoJim  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:09:36am

I wore the uniform for 6 years, keeping the Russians at bay so that little asshat and others like him would keep their life, liberty, and rights. What a f***g ingrate! Yeah, life on that submarine trailing the Russian fleet was a real vacation, full of white sand beaches, pretty women, cool drinks, ... NOT! And my tour was no where near as tough as what our people in Iraq and Afghanistan are going through. I didn't get shot at.

If the front lines come to America, I'll set up my defensive line behind, not in front of, the WaPo building.

Go to hell, Mr. Arkin. Go directly to hell. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

179 Gordon  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:15:04am

#95 Ed: I was a bit baffled by your comment. I haven't posted on LGF for a while because, quite frankly, I had more important and better things to do.

I now see, going back to early January, that JammieWearingFool decided to try and "out" myi identity. He hasn't succeeded, but as a result, I'm going to stop posting on LGF. If that was Jamhead's goal, he is successful. I have no interest in having my true identity, or anywhere within 50 miles of my actual location, disclosed to the likes of TFK and some of the other crazies who infest this site.

By the way, thanks to WriterMom for questioning Jamhead's tactics back in early January. She seems to understand what's at stake here.

I also want to thank Charles for putting up with me for these last few years. And I will continue to occasionally peruse this site, because, despite its many flaws, it performs a valuable service.

So Adios, LGF. You can disconnect my registration, CHarles, because I won't be back.

180 Doug  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:22:28am

Go fuck yourself Nodrog.

BTW, we know you're gay.

NODROG has been outed.

181 Doug  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:24:55am

This sums up Gordon perfectly.

Thank you, Paulie Walnuts.

182 Mark1957  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:27:16am

"William Arkin Supports the Troops"

My response?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...wait, wait (*coughing and clearing his throat*)...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha (*pause to wipe his eyes and blow his nose*)...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Please (*sniff, cough, gag*) Billie-Boy, yer killing me! Ya oughta do stand-up, I tells ya! Hey, it takes real talent say you "support the troops" out of one side of yer mouth, while simultaneously calling them "mercenaries" out of the other side of yer pie-hole. If that's not a balancing act, I don't know what is.

183 maddogg  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:28:29am

Gordon's true identity: The Queen Mary of Asshats.

Don't let the screen door hit you in yer candy ass on the way out tinkerbelle.

184 BabbaZee  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:41:47am

Please that's the 500th Time Nodrog has said that

185 MandyManners  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:43:07am

179 Gordon

Don't go, Gordon. Whom will we torment if you do?

186 Peacekeeper  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:43:50am

It's too bad. We use screen names because we want our privacy respected. I often taunted Gordon too but he deserved the same anonymity that I have.

187 Peacekeeper  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:50:27am

It's like they just shot old yeller.

188 xleatherneck  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:50:33am

I just tried to post a comment at the WaPo, but I keep getting an error. Not sure if this has happened to anyone else. Oh well...

189 Paul  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:56:54am

#179 Gordon

Take care Gordo; like Arnold, you'll be back.

190 WriterMom  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 11:00:40am

#179 Gordon

We may disagree, but I stand by what I said to JWF. I think it's totally wrong to post personal information gleaned from comments. Most of us would be PRETTY easy to track down with a town name a possible employer and a little sleuthing.

I can't believe I'm saying this-but I would prefer that you stick around.

191 zulubaby  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 11:04:15am
#179 Gordon 2/1/2007 12:15PM PST

#95 Ed: I was a bit baffled by your comment. I haven't posted on LGF for a while because, quite frankly, I had more important and better things to do.

I now see, going back to early January, that JammieWearingFool decided to try and "out" myi identity. He hasn't succeeded, but as a result, I'm going to stop posting on LGF. If that was Jamhead's goal, he is successful. I have no interest in having my true identity, or anywhere within 50 miles of my actual location, disclosed to the likes of TFK and some of the other crazies who infest this site.

By the way, thanks to WriterMom for questioning Jamhead's tactics back in early January. She seems to understand what's at stake here.

I also want to thank Charles for putting up with me for these last few years. And I will continue to occasionally peruse this site, because, despite its many flaws, it performs a valuable service.

So Adios, LGF. You can disconnect my registration, CHarles, because I won't be back.

Don't go, Nodrog.

192 zulubaby  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 11:06:31am
#184 BabbaZee 2/1/2007 12:41PM PST

Please that's the 500th Time Nodrog has said that

Babba, actually, that's not true. Gordon has never left LGF before. I think what Jammie did was just plain wrong. Nobody deserves that.

193 Sgt.Slappy  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 11:17:20am
in the hope that the occasional lurking moonbat gets hit by something that makes his brain, finally, start.

When you figure out what that "something" is, let me know!

How about 230 grains of Cu & Pb at 850 fps?

194 Paul  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 11:18:54am

It worked! We're begging Gordon not to go!

195 ec marm  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 11:22:16am

#179 Gordon

I now see, going back to early January, that JammieWearingFool decided to try and "out" myi identity. He hasn't succeeded, but as a result, I'm going to stop posting on LGF. If that was Jamhead's goal, he is successful. I have no interest in having my true identity, or anywhere within 50 miles of my actual location, disclosed to the likes of TFK and some of the other crazies who infest this site.


You posted at JWFs blog apparently. I am sure it would take a court order before Charles would release your identity. So stay away from JWF. Who am I going to pick on with my silly graphics if you go? *crocodile tears*

196 Sgt.Slappy  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 11:31:35am

Good Gordon.

Bad Gordon.

Educated Gordon.

Clan Gordon.

Sesame Street Gordon.

Which kind of Gordon are you, Gordon?

Should we miss you if you go?

197 the_casual_observer  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 11:32:34am

I would hope this thing gets the legs to carry it beyond a couple of days and beyond the blogs themselves because the gist of it can be picked up quickly by the average Mary and Joe and it has "wedge issue" written all over it.

No wonder it was taken down.

Criticizing the men and women in uniform cannot be effectively damage-controlled and it would likely be a very galvanizing issue from 100% right to all but 15% of the left.

In my view, that type of reaction will swing popular opinion back to where we were on the WoT in 2002.

198 Clutch  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 12:37:35pm

Woo-hoo, it is a f*cking moonbat f*cking trifecta today!

Molly swallows her birth certificate, Al "Stuart Smallypenis" Frankenweiner jumps from the sunk ship and now Nodrog goes bye-bye. (I bet he'll be back when his stack of sado-gay Bonkey porn gets old...)

Gonna go buy me a lottery ticket!

199 BabbaZee  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 12:44:14pm

#192 zulubaby 2/1/2007 01:06PM PST

#184 BabbaZee 2/1/2007 12:41PM PST

Please that's the 500th Time Nodrog has said that

Babba, actually, that's not true. Gordon has never left LGF before. I think what Jammie did was just plain wrong. Nobody deserves that.

I agree it was wrong
but he has stomped his feet and said
I am leaving and never coming back before.

The last time I remember it was because every one was busting his balls with ALL LIBERALS ARE TRAITORS at the end of their posts.

200 CMiloro  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 1:43:40pm

A close relative of mine died fighting in Iraq. He left behind a wife and three young children. He was an honorable and decent, God fearing person. He loved his country and believed in what he was doing. If I had any power whatsoever, I would make sure that this guy spent some time with the head choppers. He'd be praying for those murderers and rapists to bust the door down and rescue his sorry butt. People like this have a big mouth because they know they are safe and afforded protections by this great country which they so hate. They are the biggest hypocrites.

201 TalkinKamel  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 1:50:50pm

Gordon, you must come back!

Moi, the king, command it!

/Channeling Baldwin !V, that highly commanding Leper King.

(Seriously, Gordon, I think it's wrong to out any personal info on the internet! Avoid JWF---Charles isn't going to go after you here. And come on back. If you leave, who will the Leper King sell all his DVD's too?)

202 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 2:52:01pm

Well, if Gordon is leaving I guess I'll have to get my jollies at someone else's expense...

Shane Gordon, Don't Go! Don't Go Shane Gordon!

203 aqvik  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 4:35:02pm
#109 ec marm

First time I saw that.

Clever.

204 ariana  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:24:40pm

Smell the odor of sweat? Notice how he blusters in self-defense? Arkin is panicking and digging himself in deeper and deeper

205 Julie  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 5:30:46pm

As soon as I read the Arkin Asshat Special, I called the WaPo pay-for-call number and a nice man answered. As I tried to control tears of rage and my profanity, I explained the reason for my call. He said he hadn't read the column, and he was, himself, an 8 year Navy vet. I hope the column by the POS Arkin gets posted on the wall in the coffee room. And I really hope every one of us takes the time to contact every media source, including NBC, that pays this guy a penny.

206 Ban Draoi  Thu, Feb 1, 2007 10:51:26pm

If you think about it, this idiot picked the wrong people to, ah, shall we say, offend.

Something tells me that this idiot's ignorant screed has been posted on several military sites and read by many angry soldiers, past and present.

It would be too easy for an angry soldier, especially a sniper, to find out where this idiot lives, set up a position, and poof! splatter his brains against the wall of his residence.

Lest someone think that I am advocating violence think about this: at what point do those who are constantly provoked have the right to react to the provocation? To paraphrase Robert Kocher, if you torment someone long enough, you eventually force that person to kill you.


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