Lift and separate!

I saw this awhile ago on Google Video. Absolutely hilarious!

I also love them because they used my pics in one of their "Bullshit!" shows.

I'm not biased, nosireee.

Second, YES!

Okay third :(

That is very cool zombie, what pic in what show?

I recycle everything - it goes into the landfill and if any tree-hugging sap-sucking druid wants it - they can buy it from the county.

The crazy thing is, I can no longer remember which show of theirs it was for! I never saw it. So I don't know which pictures they used, either. Protest signs, if I remember.

As usual in my non-business-savvy way, I let them use the pics for free.

Sigh.

Thank G-d I don't have to write anymore Haikus!

mbruce, I'm busting my brain trying to remember. So far, a blank screen in my head.

Maybe I saved the emails. I'll go check.

The Bullshit! on PETA was a good episode also.

If you haven't seen the movie "The Aristocrats," you must!

I once ran into Penn Jillette, and he's exactly like that off screen from my experience. A real hoot, that man.

Yup. Recycling is one of those things people do to make themselves "feel" better.

Like buying "Organic" food.

Oh yes, cause the non-organic based food that Wal-Mart sells really perforates my large intestine.

"palestine is a grigri"

impose recycling on the ME

Ah, found the emails. From December of 2004. The first one was actually kindly forwarded to me from Charles himself! The producer for Penn & Teller was looking for pics and footage of protesting moonbats on college campuses. Charles shunted them over to me. Here's one of the response emails I sent to Charles at the time:

Things are going great with the Penn & Teller people. I've sent them all my full-resolution pictures and videos (related to Cal), and they're very excited by them. I think they're going to use them in the show. But they've been pressuring me to do an interview -- silhouetted, with a computer-distorted voice, like I'm in the witness protection program or something. I've turned them down on that, saying I definitely don't want to be on the receiving end of a camera, whatever the circumstances. I don't want fame -- I want to avoid fame. Now they want to do an email interview instead, which I'm OK with.

Ahh, the secret life of zombie.

But since I don't have cable TV, I never saw the show itself.

People are always nagging me about how I don't separate stuff for recycling. I tell them that since I buy nearly nothing and thus consume almost nothing, then I am pre-recycling. I do not accumulate stuff. Thus I need not throw stuff away. What do I have at the end of the week -- one orange-juice carton, two tomato cans, and one jam jar? This makes the LLLs blink and search for proper retorts.

#17 Chicken Kiev

Pre-cycling always trumps recycling. Leaves them speechless.

#17 Chicken Kiev

You rock.

Remember when the environmental movement sounded the alarm on the supposed "fact" that we were running out of landfill space? Lol.

Some recycling, especially at the industry level of certain resources is useful, but that sort of recycling can be justified exactly from market economics. The market reflects the value of recycling in that case. It's cheaper. Much of the recycling going on now is as bad an idea as ethanol.

This is the sort of thing that makes environmentalists look ridiculous.

Which is scary. Because there are real problems out there: topsoil erosion, desertification, overpopulation, water scarcity in some parts of the world and, believe or not skeptics, global warming.

We don't recycle at all. We don't use enough of any given thing to warrant separating stuff, anyway, plus the City makes it a PITA to recycle in the first place! If folks want to recycle, more power to them!

I'm willing to bet the first woman interviewed meant to say "I buy toilet paper MADE FROM recycled paper", not "I buy recycled toilet paper". A little, but important difference in semantics.

I'm still laughing from that Simpsons episode where the kids at school go on a huge recycling drive, take all the stuff to the reycling center, and get 35¢ for their weeks of effort. The gas bill for driving to the recycling center cost more.

#19 sunburned

You rock.

I like to think so. Or at least roll.

Your average LLL is a total consumer. They gobble up their fat-free quinoa chips, swig their bottles of organic carrot juice, buy their clothes new and retail....

I wonder how many lefty brains watched that and thought "This does not compute....does not compute....Norman, coordinate....Norman, coordinate!"

This os sort of off topic, but being that Penn and Teller are comedians, maybe its not. I am reading a really good funny book by the late great funny man, Milton Berle or Uncle Miltie to those who grew up around that time.

I just wanted to put in these two funny jokes from his book"Milton Berles Private Joke File"

They are from the section named "Israel". Hope you enjoy them as much as i did.

An Israeli soldier takes over the post at a chasm that seems as deep as the Grand Canyon. Facing him, farther along on the same side of the chasm, is an Arab soldier. The newly arrived Israeli soldier looks over the cliff and begins counting,"Fifteen, sixteen, seventeen....."

The Arab soldier says to him "What are you counting?"

The Israeli says "Come over here and look."

As the Arab soldier arrives and looks down, the Israeli gives him a slight nudge into the chasm and goes on, " eighteen. nineteen, twenty...."

and for the second one i bet some have heard this but here it goes anyways....

An Israeli sharpshooter was bothering the Arab regiment as it tried to take the hill. Angry, the Arab commanding officer ordered all of his men, five hundred in number, to wipe out the sharpshooter. The troops took off on their mission. An hour later they returned with no mark on any of them. The Israeli sharpshooter was still at work. The Arab officer asked why the entire attachment had come back. The noncom in charge said, "We turned back. There were two Israelis!"

Ad for any Leftys and Muslim friends (trolls) who are reading this, in case you dont know, Milton Berle was a Joooooooo!

Zombie, that's another little secret of the recycling industry. By the time you gather all of the stuff to recycle, take it to the center and get your money, you MIGHT have paid for the fuel to get there and home again. It's nuts!

I do recycle but....
I consume very little. I almost always buy used stuff, almost no packaging, styrofoam plastic, etc.
However, I compost religiously. Every little scrap of food, coffee grounds, tea leaves, paper, cardboard, cat hair, etc. winds up in my comspost bin and eventually out in the garden.
I grow my own tea, pears, plums, green onions, shallots, peas, tomatoes, basil, asparagus, artichokes, figs, Kiwis, Shitake mushrooms, oyster mushrooms, Morel mushrooms, spinach, chard, Wasabi (the real thing, not the horseradish and food coloring crap in a tube). I waste nothing and I grow 30-40% of my own food.

#20 new_tommy

Amen to bashing ethanol! Whoever thought that a more expensive, less efficient fuel was a good idea is retarded.

I still think that I will continue to recycle. I am only three minutes into the show so far, so while it seems that it might not be as beneficial as presented, they haven't shown it to be harmful. I'm I being as misled as those who think that ethenol is actually an energy efficient fuel?

And why the f are we talking about environmentalism? Back to the jihad!

Well... that'll make the Greenie's heads explode...

Now they need to make a Bullshit episode about the "reintroduction" of the Grey Wolf...

That ougta finish 'em off.

Yes. The fact is that the United States has more forests now than it did at the turn of the 20th century. Southern tree farms are kicking the asses of loggers up here in the Pacific Northwest. They can simply grow trees much faster.

All of their "Bullshit" episodes are brilliant and can be seen at Google video

They are Americas best comedic non-idiotariarians and bitch slap moonbats, pinkos and lefties any chance they get.

TURKEY: NEW SEASON OF TV SERIES SPARKS PROTEST

The new season of a controversial TV series "The Valley of the Wolves" has begun in Turkey amid debates and protests. The previous season of the television show, about an illegal group working to end threats to the Turkish nation and establishment, secured record audience ratings in 2004 and 2005. After this huge success a movie was also screened in 2005, about the same group, which went to Iraq to fight the US military, in revenge for Turkish soldiers who had been insulted by American troops. The movie was also criticised in the United States for having anti-American sentiments. But many public groups and sociology experts argue that these kinds of movies adversely affect people especially unemployed youths who are eager to commit crimes and harm others who they consider the 'enemy'. Armenian-Turkish journalist Hrant Dink's murder on 19 January also spurred heated debate about these type of television programmes and movies.

THAILAND: MALAYSIAN PM TO DISCUSS MUSLIM SOUTH DURING VISIT

The Malaysian prime minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, will travel to Thailand on Sunday for a three day visit. The Malaysian leader is expected to meet with Thai king Bhumipol Adulyadej and Thai premier Surayud Chulanont, with whom he is expected to discuss the violence in the three majority Muslim provinces of Thailand which are situated on Thailand's border with Malaysia. Ties between Malaysia and Thailand improved significantly after former Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra was ousted following the 19 September military coup. Thaksin had a tough policy towards Thailand's Muslim south and often accused Malaysia of offering the rebels refuge. Kuala Lumpur has strongly denied these accusations.

I pre-cycle. I don't buy newspapers.

Composting is different, IMO, because you are taking the trash and making it useful. Not recycling, per se, but simply making it into something that is beneficial across the board.

Please help Bobblehead
Cannot stop writing haiku
I need a good slap

#35 jrdroll --- I don't buy them, either! read the paper at work from someone else!

6patrick6,

Yeah. Composting is good and, as they point out, aluminum is easy to recycle. This recycling of plastics and paper is...

...well...

..bullshit!

My daughter, when in 5th grade or so, came home from her daily brainwashing session at school and tried to lay the guilt on that we didn't recycle. I put her in charge of recycling. It lasted about 1 week.

eh.

Penn & Teller(whom i like) should send a check to John Tierney since they regurgutated everything he wrote in his 1996 article for NYTimes Magzine "Recycling Is Garbage".

what is never factored into their equation is the AWARENESS of what we throw out that has been brought about by recycling. That awareness' benefit to our society is almost incalcuable when you compare it to the complete ignorance the American household had about their garbage before the environmental movement.

the fact that people think about what they throw out is a counterbalance to any of the minimal transporting expenses that Penn & Teller detail in this episode (did they even consider that if waste was not recycled it would still have to be transported to a landfill?).

they make valid points but miss the big ones.

And i had to put these in as a poke at me......gangsters

"Hows Maria the waitress?"

"She's dead."

"Dead?"

"She died from herpes."

"You dont die from herpes."

"You do if you give them to Big Louie!"

Most gangster have no necks. Thats from standing in front of the grand jury, shrugging, and saying, "I dont know anything about it!"

One mobster wasnt to bright. The boss asked him to blow up a truck. He burned his lips on the exhaust.

Israel has its own mob. Its called the Kosher Nostra!

la la la

I recycle because enviro chicks dig it.

OK. I have to say this: I HATE RECYCLING. Screw Gaia.

My city has a program where they collect plastic grocery bags (ONLY!...and must be CLEAN!) separately, save 'em up, aggregate them with other city's BAGS and send them from SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA to OHIO for recycling (or whatever they do there).

I participated in a focus group on this program. It was run by a grad student (with a government grant) that got hostile when I suggested this could not be cost-effective given the total energy input needed vs. output. 8 of the other 9 participants loved the program because it seemed like a nice thing to do. As always, follow the money.

And my city is known as being very conservative, the opposite of a Malibu/Berkeley/Madison/SF.

#43 Beagle

You recycle 'cause enviro-chicks like it? Are you, like, on crack or something?

#43 Beagle

"I recycle because enviro chicks dig it."

That and follow the money, that's what I meant to say. Go for it.

Great stuff!

did they even consider that if waste was not recycled it would still have to be transported to a landfill?)

The junk has to be carted away regardless. So the point is moot.

Alright, sometime betwqeen minute 11 and 12, we hear that it wastes time and money, so I no longer recycle.

Okay back on topic. Here in the boonies of Joisey we recycle. They pick it up twice a month at the house.

Its fine with me as they come to get it,and its only an extra$5.00 a month on my garbage bill.

So i figures what the heck.

And CRV fees in CA went up to 8 cents per aluminum CAN today!

Way ooout of thread but globally warmingly climatically relevant.
Will Ferrel imitates Mr.Bush answering questions about global Warming. Some funny bits

Beagle:

I recycle because enviro chicks dig it.

And who the hell likes enviro chicks?

Everyone in the neighborhood recycles. The red baskets are a sign of proper thinking. Do not question the red baskets.

I recycle....

...because its the f**king law around here.

If it were just aluminum cans, I wouldn't mind. But damn it. Milk cartons? Cardboard? C'mon!

#27 killgore

That's how it should be. Subsistence living. In contradiction to what you're saying, most people seem to recycle because its "in vogue," and then they consume more than anyone else.
I know that has already been mentioned by some (chicken kiev) just thought it needed some reiteration.

#31 Sgt. Slappy

are you speaking of yellowstone national park?

#55 Beagle

Stepford baskets?

#54 Fjordman

Yeah, they usually have hairy armpits.

Do not question the red baskets.

Are there pictures of Che on the red baskets?

#54 Fjordman

And who the hell likes enviro chicks?

Apparently, Beagle.

BTW, Fjordman - loved your piece on feminism.

On Topic - We had voluntary recycling here for at least 10 years. Now that the influx of moonbats has landed, starting this summer we'll have mandatory recycling, and a limit on how much trash we can have picked up per week.
If these people really want to save the planet, why don't they just go kill themselves?

#54 fjordman

LOL! I'm with you. I was going to write something more obnoxious-like who wants to make nice nice with the earnest, hemp-wearing, protest-knitting, never-met-a-razor-I liked enviro-chick?

#55 beagle

Beware, the Red Baskets they will eat your soul.

(did they even consider that if waste was not recycled it would still have to be transported to a landfill?).

Yes. They mentioned that communities which recycle have to buy more trucks because there are usually separate vehicles for garbage that goes to the landfill and recyclables that go to a different facility (or facilities).

I can't find it now. A major newspaper did an article on women who only date recyclers. Seattle or San Francisco, IIRC.

#51 JoiseyMafia 2/10/2007 08:22PM PST

Okay back on topic. Here in the boonies of Joisey we recycle. They pick it up twice a month at the house.

Its fine with me as they come to get it,and its only an extra$5.00 a month on my garbage bill.

So i figures what the heck.

Only an extra $5.00 a month?

You are getting the big weanie AND PAYING $60 a year for being on the receiving side.

... cleaning and scrunching tin cans, washing out bottles and peeling labels off, etc. If you look you'll find out the shit is going to the same landfill as the mixed household garbage.

Trust me... No matter what the commies in your local Government says, if there is value in your garbage, somebody will be coming to you and paying you for the mixed dirty shit.

When I was a little girl (back in the dark ages), we burned our trash. Not much left to send to the landfill.

#61 Killer Tomato

"moonbats, save a tree and die already..." - the new slogan of non-recycling pigs like myself.

Beagle:

I recycle because enviro chicks dig it.
And who the hell likes enviro chicks?

Hey, I got a date next weekend with a female type who one of the first times we contected was when I had mentioned something about recycling. She's rather into and that seemed to get her attention.

Hey, I would never stoop so low as to go to a peace protest just to meet females.

#57 sunburned
It's a lost art, I've had to figure all this crap out on my own. I live on a normal sized urban lot, with some careful planing and a little bit of knowledge it can be done. I've learned a lot from the Brit's "Victory Gardens" from WWII and had to teach myself lost skills like canning, but for me it's worth it. I spend under $140 a month in groceries ($60 in wine included)

And thanks for the topic of this thread, Charles. Now I have the sound of Bill Murray as that lounge singer stuck in my head.
AUGH!

Big business recycling makes sense. Look at the cardboard and office paper that goes out in bulk. There has to be a benifit there.

Hey, I have an idea. Instead of stealing food (corn) to make fuel (ethanol) lets develop a way to turn garbage into fuel - like in Back to the Future 2.
I know, I know, this sounds a lot like recycling...

PETN Sandwich

I'm glad to see someone else shares my "philosophy" on recycling. Apart from the increased cost, I have seen the stuff all lumped together by the sanitation workers and that pretty much did it for me.

I do know someone who makes a nice piece of change recycling cardboard, however.

Bottom line:

Recycling aluminum cans has a positive economic benefit, but because it does, it needs no subsidy.

If you can turn plastic milk jugs into grocery bags, that's probably O.K. too, though it does go back to the great "paper v. plastic" environmental debate, and the benefit is probably marginal.

And of course, one of the big recycling projects that Penn and Teller didn't mention: recycling used automobile tires for industrial fuel and for making roads.

Involuntary ISP change, Valentines Blizzard, Monday severe weather outbreak

Ev1 dumped on our home internet, and was replaced by PeoplePC, which I think is for poor people.

Anyway, about half the time I try to load LGF on my slow home modem, something fromm rcm.amazon.com tries to load (part of LGF?, I don't know) and when it doesn't load fast enough PeoplePC pops up their failure to load page, full of advertisements, most of them thinking I'm looking for something at Amazon.

Anyway, Valentine's Blizzard now in range of 0Z NAM, but the new WRF model isn't highly regarded, especially out at iys 84 hour max range. It ruins Washington, DC's foot of snow by turning it to sleet and freezing rain. Ditto Baltimore. That would still mean no school, but wouldn't a foot of snow be more cool?

New 0Z GFS just trickling in, still likes all snow, and lots of it, in DCA and BWI.

The new GFS also means massive gales, coastal flooding and wind damage near the coast. Maybe a change to rain on eastern Long Island and cape Cod, or maybe not.

NAM still likes tornadoes in SE Texas and Louisiana Monday

The "Crying Indian" in the advertisement they showed was Iron Eyes Cody, aka "Espera Oscar DeCorti", the son of two Italian immigrants. He wasn't an Indian.

Hey! And what about our toilets!

Less water, but now I have to flush twice! 3X on a good day!

That is priceless Charles, Thank you.

OT

Possible sharia alert on the news list to the right.

2 Italians stoned to death on Cape Verde. The report just sounds suspiciously like something some RoPers would do. (can't get my linky thing to work for some reason,but it's to the right on the NewsFeed.

Thanks, Charles. I actually watched the whole damned thing. Gratified to hear, at least, that the only thing I do recycle ---aluminum cans--- net us something, so that's cool. An intuitive thing or just knowing how the hobos love to collect them for beer fundage.

I like to shred stuff. I figure it will decompose faster that way, if that even matters.

If things are really as bad as 'they' say, future generations are going to be terribly short of all those things we're not supposed to just throw away without a thought. So, future generations are going to have to mine the landfills. And they're going to curse our recycling programs for leaving them such a useless layer to dig through. Won't someone please think of our future generations?

#29 - Tankdemon

Ethanol can make sense, when it is made from byproducts (like wood chips) that would otherwise end up buried in a landfill. But when you grow corn and use it to make ethanol the numbers don't work. And you could be feeding people with the corn.

The Hole-y Green Empire

The human-caused global warming (HCGW) movement had a big splash over the last week. But really, is it anything beyond sanctimonious hype?

Man has this peculiar tool available to him called reason; no other creature is so fortunate. Reason is something much more than the stuff of catch phrases for the smart, well-read and witty. It comprises a set of rules of what is and what is not a solid / valid argument. There are valid syllogisms and invalid syllogisms. This is a fancy way of saying that some claims comply with logical structure and others are arbitrary BS.

Nobody seems aware of the difference these days, especially the current brood of political leaders and those propagating news headlines. It is now fashionable for the likes of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Hillary Clinton – PhDs et al, to dismiss HCGW "deniers" as "fringe hold-outs" – even when these deniers happen to be MIT atmospheric climate scientists. The argument is a restatement of the: "there is now virtually universal consensus among scientists" claim. These two claims, even if they were true (which they are not), are invalid syllogisms! They are an appeal to authority, belief, bandwagon and popularity fallacies.

When one quantity of humans believe something and another, perhaps lesser, quantity of humans do not, you don't have fact, logic or proof; you have a statistic. Christians may currently outnumber Muslims. Which, if either, faith is valid? A majority favored Adolph Hitler, HAMAS and Hugo Chavez. The majority of the Supreme Court ruled that one business may seize the property of another man using government force [eminent domain] in order to generate more tax revenue for the government. There are countless examples of the majority, even smart people, being deadly wrong.

The above is just one facet of the errors within the HCGW movement, there are many. Any one of you willing to attempt to validate their claims will find more. Here are a few of things to ponder:

* "Melting polar ice caps will flood our lands" – test this – fill a glass with water and floating ice, mark the water level, check that level after the ice melts.

* "Computer models predict a [2, 4, 6!] degree rise in temperatures over the coming century…due to greenhouse gases" – can these computer models predict the temperature 2-weeks, a month, a year from now? Can they be loaded with 100-year-old data and reach today's status?

* Is it likely that our (relatively small) planet's gaseous layer is more relevant to temperature variability than the mammoth engine that is the sun (or, cosmic rays blasting us from throughout the galaxy)? Why is Co2 considered such a pariah when its forcing effect on temperature is logarithmic (double Co2 to increase temperature by 1-degree)?

Wild claims of pending doom from global warming and cooling have been with us for over a one hundred years (as have claims of oil supply exhaustion). HCGW has all of the essential elements of any religion:

Faith [in models & the claims of their creators]
Heresy [penalties for "deniers" & various emission violators; Hillary: "if I were President, I'd take Big Oil's profits and put them into renewable…"]
Sin [guilt of SUV ownership]
Sacrifice [demands for energy conservation / reducing your "carbon footprint"]
Worship [Toyota Prius, non-incandescent light bulbs]
Indulgence [Pollution credits]

This religion is gaining hold on the US & world population, it must be gutted – and soon – before it chokes off the quantity and quality of human life.

#77

The "Crying Indian" in the advertisement they showed was Iron Eyes Cody, aka "Espera Oscar DeCorti", the son of two Italian immigrants. He wasn't an Indian.

Hey that ad was ahead of it's time: Fake but accurate.

ROME — Three Italian women were brutally attacked while vacationing on a resort island off the coast of West Africa

Subsidizing their own destruction.

#69 Dave the...

I would never stoop so low as to go to a peace protest just to meet females.

LOL!

Personally I think all garbage should be sorted and recycled by our prison population. Recycleables, combustibles (for generators) and compost. Put them to work.

Saw this at the corner yesterday...

I am glad to hear that you don't mind switching to florescent lights. California may mandate them. By the way, a few years ago California declared florescent tubes to be a hazardous waste because they contain mercury As of this year, you can be fined if they are found to be in your garbage.

True or untrue?

End of incinerator
Rats on city streets
Bigger than cockroaches.

I recycle by the oikonomia.

I reuse my containers. I make palimpsests of my papers. I let my shirts hang clean.

Waste not, want not, and all that.

I really wish they had not included that footage of the Indian crying. It was not about recycling: it was about littering.

They levitated me on stage once....it was sooooooo coooollllll!

#84 egoist

This religion is gaining hold on the US & world population, it must be gutted – and soon – before it chokes off the quantity and quality of human life.

Wow, that is very well said!

Thanks.

Some people will believe anything.

Okay, I'm still going to recycle, 'cuz frankly, I go through a lot of wine in a month's time and I have to believe recycling glass has a net benefit. I don't buy water because I have this fancy device in a couple rooms in my house that dispenses it with the flip of a lever. It's called a faucet.

I'm going to continue to compost my veggies, egg shells, coffee grounds and bread. It makes a great soil amendment.

I also eat organic foods when I can justify the extra expense. Trust me, if you don't eat eggs all that much, it's worth $2.60 a dozen for the organic ones. The taste is far better. And just try an organic, free-range chicken, once. They look like hell but the taste is a world apart from your GoldnPlump or whatever else you're getting out there.

But this Bullshit causes me to stop and think about some commonly accepted paradigms, and now I want to know.

Is bacon still supposed to be bad for you?

It's great that they can capture methane gas from the landfills.

Why can't we have solid state tires so that they don't go into the heaps and fires so much?

Nitrates, noam sayin'?

I'm a right winger who likes recycling and just being smart about waste.

Yes, some doesn't make sense, but cans, glass, cardboard, especially by business, seems reasonable to be recycled. But sending the second truck through does seem wasteful.

For those of you who haven't seen this before...

Penn and Teller: Bullshit! Environmental Hysteria

If you don't understand the LLL, you will after watching this one. It's priceless. They actually get moonbats at an environmental rally to sign a petition to ban Di-hydrogen Monoxide (H2O = water). Trust me, you want to see this.

Noam

Anything "bad" for you, according to popular belief, MUST be good, i.e. bacon.
Although, maybe I'm just young and don't care.

#89 J.D.

I was buying light bulbs last week and saw those energy efficient bulbs, and at the display were coupons for $ off. I noticed the warning about mercury on the package... so, what, we're going to save a few bucks on our electric bills, but probably have to ship the used bulbs to a hazardous waste facility?

#89 J.D.

I saw your question on this too late to respond last night. I don't know if there's a fine for the disposing of flourescent tubes. I break them with a hammer in my (um, er) glass recycling bin. It is a lot of fun!

#89

Cannot speak for certain about California, but many locals have declared flourescent bulbs hazmat. Big office buildings, malls and the like are treating them as hazmat because they know they will be the target.

For the love of G-d I can't understand why we don't burn garbage to generate electricity. We have the technology to scrub and re-burn to the point that emissions are ridiculously low - probably lower than burning high sulpher coal.

95...

I just finished dining on some fine "organic" chilli, which contained "free-range" elk and pork that I shot on the "range" last year. No steroids, antibiotics, or peptide growth hormones in my chow! Of course, all of those chemicals mentioned above are "organic" in nature, but whats in a name anyhow?

#95 Noam Sayin

Is bacon still supposed to be bad for you?

I will eat bacon until I'm dead.

I eat whatever I want to eat, because, the way I figure it, no matter how I live, no matter how I eat, no matter what I do, I'm going to die one day, so I'm going to enjoy my time here.

As far as bacon being bad for health, I don't know, but I do know this, that over history, everyone who never ate bacon ever, even once in their lives, still died.

:)

Rather than wasting money recycling plastics, we could be spending that money developing better biodegradable plastics....

...but noooooo......

#89, J.D.

Don't know about that, but those non-union red state moneygrubbers at WAL-MART are making a big push for compact fluorescents.

Why? The bottom line, of course:

For Chuck Kerby, it was ceiling fans that made the impact of energy-saving swirl bulbs dramatically clear.

Kerby is a vice president and divisional merchandise manager at Wal-Mart for hardware and paint (and ceiling fans) for all of Wal-Mart's U.S. stores and supercenters.

[...]

Last year, conversations started in Wal-Mart around the potential of swirls to save customers money on utility bills. "Somebody asked, 'What difference would it make if we changed the bulbs in the ceiling-fan display to CFLs?'" says Kerby. A typical Wal-Mart has 10 models of ceiling fans on display, each with four bulbs. Forty bulbs per store, 3,230 stores.

"Someone went off and did the math," says Kerby. "They told me we could save $6 million in electric bills by changing the incandescents to CFLs in more than 3,000 Wal-Marts. I couldn't believe it. I didn't know I was paying $6 million to light those fixtures. I said, that can't be right, go back and do the math again." The numbers came out the same the second time: savings of $6 million a year. "That, for me, was an 'I got it' moment."

Slightly used toilet paper?

#100 Sunburned

I'm not young, and I don't care, either.

PORK FAT RULES!

#51 JoiseyMafia

ts fine with me as they come to get it,and its only an extra$5.00 a month on my garbage bill.

I looked up some of the other taxes and fees NJ residents pay. It's obscene! I never thought I would see taxes and fees as high as I see in that state.

#104 Positively 4th Street

Sure. Try to build one. We had a trash to energy plant go in around 15 years ago - company tried to build another, couldn't find a town that would allow it. It was NIMBY at its best.

Yeah... and I got a cholesterol thing to keep an eye on.

I reallly miss bacon. I have a meat market just three blocks from my house that makes their own bacon - thick sliced, and smoked on the premises. My favorite samich of all time is three or four slices of that bacon on some whole-wheat bread with a little dollop of mayo...

*drool*

Amen Republic, Amen.

#110 MTNester

It does indeed! Been watching Emeril?

PETN, i know who picks up my trash and who picks up my recycling and i know where they both go. Im not ignorant of these facts.

My trash goes to the Newark Incinerator. My trash is picked up once a week on wensdays.

My recycling goes to the Sussex County Recycling Center not far from me and is picked up twice a month on Mondays.

As i do not read newspapers my recycling consists of mostly cans and glass. And i dont find it oh so freakin hard to give them a quick rinse. Big whoopie doo, i gotta get my hands wet. And who said anything abouts peeling off labels?

And i dont consider $5.00 a month getting the big weenie as you call it. At the minium recycling brings in alot of jobs here in Sussex. So dont go knocking it. They turn much of the recycling they receive into mulch that they give away for a small fee when the weather turns warmer.

And no, im not some enviro kook. I just believe that recycling has some good points as well as bad points.
And id rather it be sent to the recycling center than have some punks toss it out a moving car onto my front lawn as i gotta go through the trouble of kicking their asse for messin wit my lawn.

Im tough enough to live wit the slight inconveniance.

#109 MandyManners

Slightly used toilet paper?

I cracked up on that one.

Okay, I will continue to recycle aluminum.

It just seems like that the less we use of various products, the more we have, therefore lower prices. If we can actually collect and recycle the various things in an effecient manner.

And I do have to disagree with the landfill thing. You would think that you'd want to stretch the life of a landfill as much as possible.

Automobile tires are separated out of the landfill because they have this ugly habit of rising from the grave - they literally rise to the surface- therefore they are segregated by mandate at all landfills [they'll fine your ass for dumping them into the general garbage heap]. Also, its not hard to recycle tires because the primary source of old tires are tire stores.

My old home state instituted a bottle/can deposit not because of the value of the bottles (glass bottles at the time already had a manufacturer's deposit on them) but to discourage litter on the side of the roads - paying a 10 cent deposit on top of a 25 cent beverage can do that. States now getting into the deposit scheme apparently don't recognize the punitive intent of the original deposit laws. These states SHOULD have deposits on order of 50 cents a can to have the same behavior modifying impact (i.e. don't throw garbage out your car window).

Scrap metal dealers will pay per pound for most metals (though your average Joe won't find it cost effective to 'recycle' his steel there). They do not care if the aluminum you bring in is in the form of empty beer cans or stolen highway signs and bridge rails, old piping and plumbing fixtures or electrical cable stolen from construction sites.

Empty glass bottles had value when all were flip tops and could be sterilized and reused. Now, with twist offs that cannot be reused, old glass for all practical purposes is worth zero.

Went to an office supply store the other day - all recycled printer paper cost at least 50 cents more per ream. Clearly, virgin paper costs less than recycled - meaning it takes less resources to produce. [conversely, recycled al costs less, which is why people actual pay for it.]

That was an amazing peice of work there.

Way Way Way OT

This sounds kind of cool. Found it on Digg. I know nothing about "Lost". If I did it would probably be even better.

#114 Sunburned

Been watching Emeril?

You bet your BAM! I have... ;-)

#112 Killer Tomato

Ship it by rail to a town or county that wants the jobs. Believe it or not, they are out there.

I saw this episode a while ago (via Winamp's Shoutcast TV facility) and jumped off the recycling bandwagon because of it. That's right, folks. I went cold turkey.

It has been six months since I have last recycled.

Temptation is all around, especially as I am a fervent believer in canned food products; but with help from my friends I have managed to steer clear of the path of bondage to green bureaucracy.

I am a liberated man!

#89 J.D.
LED is the wave of the future....

9W LED Bulb Replaces 70W Incandescent

#82, Etaoin Shrdlu

[F]uture generations are going to have to mine the landfills. And they're going to curse our recycling programs for leaving them such a useless layer to dig through. Won't someone please think of our future generations?

Even so, once nanotechnology really gets going, landfills will be a tremendous source of raw materials.

"Pollution is nothing but resources we're not using."
--R. Buckminster Fuller

Thank you Penn and Teller!

And then there are things that should NEVER be recycled:

INJECTION1 hr 21 min 55 sec

Needle reuse (recycling) and its role in the global spread of HIV/AIDS. Focus on Bulgarian nurses who've been given the death sentence in Libya.
Injection is the real-life story of six health care workers falsely accused and jailed by an Arab dictator, the deplorable conditions that ... all » led to their arrest, and the simple solution that might have prevented not only this injustice, but millions of needless infections.

In Libya in 1999, five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor were arrested and convicted of infecting over four hundred Libyan children with HIV in a Benghazi hospital. Libyan dictator Moammar Khadaffi proclaimed before the trial that the nurses conspired with the American CIA and the Israeli Mossad to maliciously infect the children. The accused, now known as The Benghazi Six, are still in a Libyan prison awaiting re-trial.

Widespread reuse of disposable syringes is responsible for as many as seven million cases of AIDS in Africa. Public health officials are reluctant to discuss this problem, perhaps in fear that Africans will avoid critical medical care, such as inoculations for malaria and other virulent diseases. The thrust of public AIDS prevention campaigns is on safe sex, and healthcare risks are critically overlooked.

In this investigative documentary, Mickey Grant travels to Kenya, Bangkok, Sofia, Benghazi, Tripoli, Rome and London in an attempt to discover the truth. He follows the trail of syringes from hospital to garbage dump, and then back into Africa’s health care system.

You'll hear moving testimony from leaders of the World Health Organization, Amnesty International, African government officials, the Khadaffi opposition, journalists, medical scientists, doctors, and health care workers. You'll also hear from one of the accused, the son of Moammar Kaddafi, a spokesman for the infected children, and other participants.

Could these healthcare workers have committed this horrific crime? Or, are they scapegoats to divert attention from institutional shortcomings? Is Moammar Khadaffi responsible for this tragedy? Is re-use of contaminated syringes a common practice in Libya and the rest of Africa? Are safer syringes available, and if so, why aren't they in common use?

These questions are explored in INJECTION.

I remember the crying Indian commercials. But I've also been on the reservations. An excerpt from Counting Coup: A True Story of Basketball and Honor on the Little Big Horn.

The closer I ride to Crow Agency, the more garbage and litter I notice next to the road: discarded pop cans, junk food wrappers, disposable diapers, Styrofoam cups. It seems contradictory. I've just read a poignant account of the Indians' kinship and harmony with the earth and nature and how that relationship had been disrupted by the white man and his pollution of the land and the rivers . . . and yet the deeper I ride into the reservation, the uglier the trail of trash. I doubt farmers have thrown it there.

A car filled with Crow teenagers zooms by and an empty pack of Marlboro Lights sails out the window. "Get a car," the driver yells. In the distance, I see Last Stand Hill.

Maybe they didn't play those commercials on the reservations.

I recycle printer cartridges and cell phones for a school fundraiser. Last year we had a parent working for the local FEMA office bringing in $300-$500 worth of cartridges a month (discovered that our FEMA uses OEM cartridges almost exclusively).

Just the capitalist in me coming out :>)

I figure my trash compactor at home reduces my landfill contribution by 50% already.

#121 Dar ul Harbarian
Dude, it's a crazy addictive show. You gotta watch, or catch up somehow. It's my only TV addiction.

Then there is the other extreme...copper. Prices are so good that crackheads are breaking into houses to steal the pipes, sell it to scrap yards (the scarp dealers have to know what's going on) so they can get by for one more day.

There's even been a couple of house explosions as they took the pipes that brought gas into the house.

#123 Positively 4th Street
Don't get me wrong - it's a good idea, the trouble is trying to place one without upsetting 'the neighbors'.

Located in Concord, New Hampshire, the Wheelabrator Concord waste-to-energy facility provides dependable, environmentally safe disposal of municipal solid waste, while generating clean electricity for sale to the local utility. The Concord facility processes up to 500 tons per day of municipal solid waste from 27 communities in southern and central New Hampshire. At full capacity, the plant can generate more than 14,000 kilowatts of electrical energy for sale to Public Service Company of New Hampshire. This is the equivalent of supplying all of the electrical needs of 17,000 New Hampshire homes.

Brilliant video
CAIR lawyers scrambling out
Free speech rebounds

Killer Tomato
solomonpanting
jester6

I dunno...I just wonder how harmful such a small amount of mercury can be, really...leave it to California!

Dar ul Harb
That is a LOT of savings!

GE, facing the prospect of mothballing a centurylong franchise in lightbulbs--well, GE is smiling and swallowing hard.

You bet they are! I've worked inside a GE glass plant and it is one huge corrosive mess. Ammonia, hydrofluoric acid...
GE will figure out a way to come out on top. It's what they do.

I've bought some compacts for my business...to keep the maintenance man from having to change them so often and for the energy savings.

#105 SaneinMN

Mmm... Elk chili. I'll be right over. Where do you live?

And John Schneider-I live where the taxes are less than half what my parents and my wifes parents pay who live in the NorthEastern corner of Joisey.

They pay nearly 9-10,000 a year in prop taxes. Thats the reason many residents of NJ who live in that area of NJ move out, yet people from NYC are moving in at a great rate as they view a 400-500,00 dollar home as CHEAP...

My home cost less than half of that. And its a nice comfy home that just needs some small fixing-up.

And its expensive to live in NJ thanks to the Democrats that the majority of my fellow NJers keep putting back in.

Im waiting to see Corzine fuck up his promise to lower the propery taxes. Maybe than my parents will move.

#105 SaneinMN and #135 Noam Sayin

Elk Chili...sounds delicious...
Dang it...now I'm craving mom's venison chili. Oh cruel world.

#128 cardiacmont

I noticed a great increase of garbage as well when I had a job to electrify all of the outhouses on a certain Indian land. I was the first person ever to wire a head for reservations.

Pete's opinion.

#98 Dave the.....

No, Dave. Just cans.

I've been telling people that for years. If you want to do something that feels good but is unproductive, throw out your trash in one bag and use the extra time for masturbating.

Re-using, on the other hand, like packing materials, boxes, etc, that's all good.

But not the huge, wasteful subsidy industry we call recycling.

Oh, and I want Angela from CEI to marry me, for those of you who watched the video.

I think the main point was made at the end. To paraphrase: It's an issue of control. Some people like to tell others what to do.

#125 Killgore Trout
I have the cutest little LED night lights!
And I have a huge sign of red letters that has lots of LED lights. It costs almost nothing to operate and has no bulbs to replace. They are expensive initially, but the savings over time make them very worthwhile!

#128 Cardiacmont

Because of your comment, and the "mont" in your name, I'm wondering, are you from Montana?

If I precycle AND recycle does that mean I'm bicycling?

#138 solomonpanting

I was the first person ever to wire a head for reservations.

*snort*

What a conundrum.

Recycling causes global warming.

#103 jester6

Cannot speak for certain about California, but many locals have declared flourescent bulbs hazmat. Big office buildings, malls and the like are treating them as hazmat because they know they will be the target.

Bulbs made in the last decade or so are not hazmats, only the older ones.

beck - hell yes
/G'nite Y'all

I recycle.

Shell casings.

That reminds me, I wonder if Giuliani has every unloaded a para arms 9mm so fast that the entire barrel becomes white?

#131 Dave the... In Newark they used to steel the copper off the old churches that had copper drainpipes and gutters. Even off the roofs as some churches would use copper in the roofing. Than to try and prevent the theft of the copper, the churches had steel guards attached to the drainpipes and gutters.

Thats some wild stuff. But in Newark the chopshops pay good money for copper, and like you said, they dont care where you got it from.

#115 JoiseyMafia

And i dont consider $5.00 a month getting the big weenie as you call it. At the minium recycling brings in alot of jobs here in Sussex. So dont go knocking it.

When people who crunch the numbers say that it's not economically efficient, they MEAN that those jobs are created at a LOSS to the civilian economy.

The government TAKES money OUT OF the civilian economy to create jobs that produce LESS than they cost.

REDUCE the efficiency. As in there would be MORE money in the private sector for jobs if they HAD NOT "created" these jobs.

You see, a company that wants to stay in business needs a business model where employees produce MORE money than they cost. I mean, before you even get to profit, you have taxes, plant & equipment, insurance, etc.

IME this is one of the most difficult points to get across in World History. There is about a 94% chance that people who read the above will shake their heads and say "a job's a job" or "but these people have jobs they might not otherwise have," like with the incredibly brain-dead Oregon Gas-Pumping laws.

I think some of you are ignoring some of the facts brought up in the video.

I already knew that recycling was a sham... Large trucks burning hundreds of gallons of gasoline to pick up plastic milk jugs? Come on... And they want these things rinsed out/clean meaning: water down the drain. What is more important? Global warming/carbon emissions? Water? Landfill space?

The fact you all are missing is, the government takes MILLIONS of dollars and you basically get no benefit whatsoever.

Those "mulch" products are made cheaper and better quality from NEW sources, not recycled bullshit.

Plastic bags are the same thing... new ones cost less to make from new products.

I avoided recycling (except aluminum) if I ever could. I always used common sense in reasoning it... I guess I was more right than I thought.

I bet those "progressives" would never understand this... They like those high-pay low-skill government jobs.

err...millions? I meant BILLIONS.

I recycled an ex girlfriend once back in the 80's. Big mistake.

My garbage company wants to charge me extra per month for having a recycling bin. It tells me that they can't even break even on just recycling the materials themselves.

#98 dave the

If you like being "smart about waste," then why does "it seems reasonable" satisfy you? If you like being smart about anything then why would an appearance of reasonableness ever satisfy you?

Can we have some rigor here? Follow the numbers. Recycling wastes money and energy. Landfills are more efficient and environmentally friendly than recycling.

Good Lord, Dave. If "seems reasonable" meant a freaking thing, Communism would have worked.

If you ever recycle anything but aluminum cans after this, you are a soft-headed, brainwashed, careless minion of Hillary's empire and I have no use for you.

Lordy, someone linked this.

The ymehpsalB fo snootraC daerD have been promulgated in the UK. Hide the children. The first official showing in the UK, not counting Internet saturation of course. Seething, alienation, marginalization, Islamophobia, and litigation are sure to follow.

The material included a cartoon depicting the prophet Mohammed which sparked worldwide outrage last year when it was published in Denmark. It is thought this is the first time the cartoon has appeared in a publication in England.

The humanity.

#141 MandyManners

I think the main point was made at the end. To paraphrase: It's an issue of control. Some people like to tell others what to do.

Bingo! Give brainiac the fluffy dog! :)

(I got to use that TWICE today!)

Like environmentalism in general, like overpopulation before it, like chemical scares and malaise and fuel crises... we get confused by the bizarre nature of the discussions because we don't realize that while we THINK we're attacking a problem, we're attacking a SYMPTOM of a problem.

The PROBLEM is the collectivist desire for control and authority. The SYMPTOMS are the tools they try to use to get control, like environmentalism and fuel crises and health care crises and so on.

That's why the discussion is so circular, you THINK you're addressing the concerns of the leftist, but you're only addressing the meta-concerns.

Unfortunately, since very few of them will EVER admit that the core concern is the need for control, and most of them believe sincerely that that control will have good results (despite the weight of centuries bearing down on the other side of the scale), THAT is an awfully difficult discussion to have.

Secular Humanists and Libertarians and Skeptics, oh my!

Seriously though. I loved the part where some decent and kind-hearted Americans put up with bul--nonsense because they were told it was the right thing to do. Right after some putz says Americans don't care enough.

CNN has something on right now called "The Journalist and the Jihadi."

Haven't payed much attention, but seems interesting.

OT

Theo van Gogh film that cost him his life.

#155 threecents

opposite here. I recycle simply because it's cheaper for me... I don't have to pay to fill up the big recycle bin, but I do pay based on the size of my trash bin. So by putting half my trash in the recycle bin each week, I pay less every month.

I eat free-range pizza. Mmmmmm.

I'm kinda torn when it comes to Penn&Teller. While I love their BS (it's the next 12 DVD's in my Netflix queue!) way back when, they were on a celebrity fear factor. Of course, the prize money was to go to charity, just like very other "celebrity" game show. Penn and Teller's charity of choice, the ACLU. Fortunately, they didn't win.

Why am I not surprised that, on GOOGLE video, P&T's "Gun Control" episode is not available.

Pfffft.

#159 SunCat

Seriously though. I loved the part where some decent and kind-hearted Americans put up with bul--nonsense because they were told it was the right thing to do. Right after some putz says Americans don't care enough.

Generally speaking, you'll find that the left thinks less of humanity and more of themselves than the "right."

There was actually a decent-scale study to that effect, but I lost the article and haven't yet spent the time needed to track it down.

Where did all the lizards go? Are they passed out already!?

#166 Freakagriep

Yep.

Back to boats for transportation.

David Travis, a climate science professor at the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater, says aircraft emissions "are currently one of the fastest-growing contributors to global warming."

Concern grows over pollution from jets

Maybe Ed the Weatherman can weigh in here?

British Airways actually has an emissions calculator to see how much people burn. Maybe the PETA, vegans and eco-wackos would like to use the calculator before embarking on their next flight.

Better yet, maybe some diligent readers might want to track how damaging the Hollywood liberals are to the environment by tracing their travels.

I've never recycled and never will, if they make it mandatory then it's off to the gulag for recidivist enviromental evildoers for me.

This is also really going to piss some of you off, but I also drive a car with four barrel carbs and I keep my foot in it a lot because I love the sound a Hemi makes when it runs flat out. (Yes, that was plural as in two four barrel carbs, this thing sucks gas like a hog, but it goes like a bat out of hell.)

#166 Freak...

(Some of us - okay, me - play poker)

And doing quite well, I might add.

Double whammy in London Times.

US ‘prepares for failure’ in Iraq surge

But wait, there's more. The recent Russian, Iranian, Chinese, Venezuelan, etc., arms buildups?

Putin: America is fuelling worldwide nuclear arms race

Death to America -- Putin

#169 Thanos

What kind of car? No wait. Lemme guess.

'72 'Cuda?

#136 JoiseyMafia

You have my sympathies. Hell, who needs the Cosa Nostra, when you have the Democratic Machine of New Jersey?

#170 Noam

I need a hobby...like poker...

#174 sunburned

I need a hobby...like poker...

You're a student. Hang on a second, I got a low-card full house and I know this @$$hole is sitting on AK...

#166 freakagriep

Where did all the lizards go? Are they passed out already!?

Good grief, I just went downstairs to make a cup of hot chocolate - I figured I'd be back before you noticed.

#136, JoiseyMafia,

As a recent refugee from NJ to SC, I can empathize with you about the cost of living there. I wish the Guvnor would post a sign that says “Welcome to NJ; Where everything happens and nuttin’ gets done”.

The only thing I can credit NJ with is the ability I had to make a higher wage when I actually worked for a living, and thus be able to contribute more dollars to my 401K, reap the maximum in SS benefits and pension than I would have been able to do here in SC. So I brought my credits to SC to retire where the cost of living is reasonable. And you in NJ still get your gas pumped into your car for you and the cost isn’t that much more than here. That's good.

It isn’t just the real estate taxes there that cripple you; it’s the insurance costs (car/home), “fund-raisers” (trash removal, motor vehicle taxes/tickets), state income taxes, and 650 school districts each supporting a Superintendent of Schools making over 6 figures a year. So what do you get for your tax dollar? Easy. You get sh*t and shoved in it.

So continue to work in NJ. Pay your FICA every payday because it keeps my boat afloat, and consider coming south where the weather is good, the cost of living is reasonable and the camaraderie is priceless.

Here are a few facts on recycling that apply to my corner of the world ( I'm 5 minutes from Montreal city )

- "Undercover" reporters have revealed - among other things - that at least 80 % of glass is not recycled but just thrown away.

- The company that throws away 80 % of the " recycled" glass it collects is still receiving the same amount of money from the government as if they were recycling 100 % of the glass.
That money is taken out of our hard earned pay.

- The government is aware of the situation but is doing nothing about it; as long as the average misinformed-gullible voter keeps voting for them,
why fix anything?

- Paper collected here in the province of quebec is not used to save trees in my country.
Not one single tree in Canada is saved with the paper collected in the province of quebec.
The paper is sold to a California company that recycles it to save trees in California
( in the end some trees are saved I know but those trees are not even in my country... )

- I pay more taxes to pay for recycling collecting that is sold to another country to make a profit.
I am charged to make a paper selling business man ( and his government friends ) rich.
They should pay me.
They should buy my paper from me.
It is my stuff, I bought it.
That paper is mine.
They want to sell it.
They should pay me just like they pay for my empty beer bottles.

This whole thing is fraud no matter how you look at it.

Pollution, global warming and so on, all those scary things are used by the left to scare voters into voting for the party that will "save" them and their children from a "dying" planet...
Liberals talk a lot about recycling, voters associate recycling with the left.

Recycling is just another fraud.

Recycling is just a "voter pleaser" thing.

#23 Chicken Kiev . . .

Your average LLL is a total consumer. They gobble up their fat-free quinoa chips, swig their bottles of organic carrot juice, buy their clothes new and retail....

Yes.

Got him! Got him! I so got him!

Gawd I love playing 7-3 offsuit.

Okay, where was I? Oh, yeah. Sunburned. You're a student. Your hobby is studying and chasing college girls (or boys, whatever your thing is). You don't need the distraction of poker.

Now put down the bong and get back to the books.

Noam

Good point...
Wait...does that make my 'hobby' homework or drinking? I'm confused...

#170 Noam Sayin'

I've played a game or two of online poker, but I felt like the 40 year-old virgin, so I quit.
Good luck over there!

Noam

Don't have a bong - except for the 'occasional' overnight drunk I guess I'm a pretty good kid.
As far as getting back to the books. IT'S SATURDAY NIGHT?! I don't care who you are, on Saturday night you DO NOT do homework.

#165 Merovign
Was it this?
Who Gives to Charity?

I've never recycled and never will, if they make it mandatory then it's off to the gulag for recidivist enviromental evildoers for me.

This is also really going to piss some of you off, but I also drive a car with four barrel carbs and I keep my foot in it a lot because I love the sound a Hemi makes when it runs flat out. (Yes, that was plural as in two four barrel carbs, this thing sucks gas like a hog, but it goes like a bat out of hell.)

Alright Thanos, fess up.

I am a mopar head.

67 GTX
69 Charger
63 Fury Max Wedge

Is it a cross ram?

OT

Parents protest at school's 'Halal-only' lunch

Furious parents staged protests outside a school over its decision to serve up only halal meat at lunchtimes.
Staff were forced to call the police after one father strode into the school in North London to challenge the new meals policy.
Kingsgate Primary in West Hampstead is among growing numbers of schools with high Muslim populations to use halal-only meat in cooking.
But the menus, which will feature only meat that has been slaughtered in the halal way with a single cut to the throat, have not always been well received.
At Kingsgate, parents carrying placards congregated at the school gates to demand a reversal of the policy, claiming their children would be denied a choice.
But the protests triggered claims of racism from parents of Muslim children, who make up three quarters of the school population.
Yesterday headmistress Liz Hayward was refusing to back down, insisting that a majority of parents had backed the move to halal-only menus in a comprehensive survey of families.

I need an idea for a post to my blog...I'm not feeling creative.

You're right, sunburned. I don't think I ever studied on a Saturday night. I have three degrees. Come to think of it, I don't think I studied nearly as much as most.

The new Cold War sounds just like the old one but without the kitschy Communist lingo.

I see from drudgereport that a holocaust denier loon attacked Elie Wiesel in San Francisco...

Here...

Some idiot that goes by the name Eric Hunt attacked the elderly man. I'm sure dailykos is dancing with joy that someone can attack a holocaust survivor.

The guy supposedly admitted the attack.

I feel the same way Noam. I see all of these people wasting their days doing homework non-stop and I think, "I still get A's and B's, so why over exert myself." By the time I'm done I'll have two degrees, you almost have to these days if you want to go into education and get paid well.

So... it's a drinking thread then.

I brought up this debate with some of my co-workers and they were just floored when I said recycled paper doesn't save trees or save resources. One even tried shouting me down in that he hated hiking through deforested lands and it was wrong of me to think that recycling should save money. Simply I shouldn't recycle only because it would save me money. Uh...... riiiiiiight. I make it a point to recycle only if it saves on the overall use of resources, why recycle paper to save trees when you're going to waste more of the other recourses like oil, water, and electricity. Metals are good to recycle because it costs less than to use raw materials. But to make such arguements expect a lot of flak but be civil and return fire.

God..that looks like old news... well, I just saw it and didn't see it before.... Means it is time to sleep. I thought I'd read about it here first... :)

Goodnight all.

#182 Freakagriep

I just got that one.

Dink!

Come here, you!

The man reason I use CFL's is to save $ on the electric bill. I live in CT where we have some of the highest rates in the nation. The CFL's go in lights that are used the most, such as outside lights that stay on Dusk to dawn or inside lights that are used a lot and are hard to change.

One thing they didn't say:
Like many bad ideas, it was imported by the left from...Europe!

Noam

modified 2006 Dodge Charger. (They don't make them with twin fours, fortunately there is aftermarket gear ...)

Time for me to catch some zzz's don't stay up too late drinking folks

I'm going to have to quit hanging around here - I'm getting a complex.
formercorpsman has more cars than I do.
Noam has more degrees than I do.
Hucbald has declared this a drinking thread and all I have is a cup of hot chocolate.
Woe is me.
:(

#196 mattm

ALL of the bulbs inside and outside of my house are CFL's. I don't give a rat's ass about saving energy or money (Plenty of both to go around, and then some): I just HATE changing lightbulbs and they last for... ever...

*belch*

WAAAAY OT:

A QANTAS flight attendant faces the sack after being accused of having sex with British actor Ralph Fiennes in an aircraft toilet while flying from Australia to India.
Sydney-based Lisa Robertson, 38, met the star of The English Patient while working in the business-class cabin on flight QF 123 from Darwin to Mumbai on January 24.
In a confidential report to Qantas management obtained by The Sunday Telegraph, Ms Robertson is accused of chatting to Fiennes during the flight and being seen exiting the same toilet moments apart.
She claims Fiennes, 44, became "amorous'' towards her in the toilet.
Ms Robertson declined to comment when contacted by The Sunday Telegraph.

[Story]

#199 Killer Tomato

It's ok, just drop some whiskey in there and you're set!

#171 Beagle

But wait, there's more. The recent Russian, Iranian, Chinese, Venezuelan, etc., arms buildups?

It's amazing that so many people can't put the world into perspective.

We are armed in the defense of free people.

Those that oppose freedom are arming against us.

Dead thread opener:

Australian P.M. John Howard: Al Qaeda praying for Obama and the Democrats

Too right!
Good onya, mate.

You're still alright in my book Killer Tomato, I may be new(er) around here, but I know a good, solid Lizard when I see one.

OT

Re - that discussion we had yesterday about that girl psyched up about Israelis "killing brown people", here is something from a like-minded moonbat: [Link: www.pamrotella.com...]

Exerpt:

Then if the issue of European Jews taking native land comes up as the reason for the natives' struggle to retake their land, the basic argument is that God told Jews the land was theirs to take, and anyway the Europeans were killing Jews, so it's OK for Jews to kill Arabs to avoid being killed by Europeans again. As usual, there's always flowery language to dress up the basic plot line, but it all boils down to "God said it's alright, so we're allowed to kill anyone we want."

Sometimes the issue of common ancestry comes up, even with blonde Slavic Jews claiming to have originated from the Middle East centuries ago, despite many European Jews actually only Jewish because of centuries-old mass conversions. They're not Arab at all. And anyway, the whole ethnicity argument doesn't fly with me. I mean, I'm half Italian, but nobody thinks it's OK for me to sail to Italy, gun down a farmer there, and take his farmhouse and land. I'm an American now, and if I want to live in Italy then I have to put up with the Italians, learn to speak Italian, and save up to buy a place there. No group of Italian-Americans are plotting to invade part of Italy and turn it into an English-speaking colony, exiling the native Italians to Sicily. That's just crazy.

I loved the part about "Slavic Jews". Tell your average Russian or Ukrainian that the Jews that lived among them were Slavs and they'd laugh in your face.

And why do so many people think that Israel was born with "European Jews" simply barging in to Palestine, gunning down the "native", "brown" Palestinians and seizing their farms (thinking this was OK because G-d said they could do it)? What about real history - the peaceful aliyot? The land sales? The Partition Plans? The Wars for survival? But no, the erroneous "they barged in and stole our land" narrative wins out every time.

Argh.

#187
Write about the future that could be.

I'm sorry, but those two always leave me faintly nauseous.....

#204

Hypothetically....(very), a timeline,
Obama wins nomination
Obama wins election
Obama pulls troops (completely) out of Middle East
Obama cuts support of Israel

Osama attacks United States

It’s Penn and Teller, so do I need to mention there’s a language warning?

No, but you do need to understand that Penn Gillette is an anti-religious asshole, and some people don't feel welcome in places where he is....and I'm one of those people.

#187 sunburned

I need an idea for a post to my blog...I'm not feeling creative.

Start here...

We are armed in the defense of free people.

Those that oppose freedom are arming against us.

#198 Thanos

Wow. You put two quads on a '06?

Flaming drunk.

#206.....

Considering that (a)there are many Pals who are considerably more light-skinned than some Israelis, and (b) much of the yeoman's work during the civil rights struggle in the US was done by American Jewish organizations, the ' Israelis killing brown people' thing is ludicrous.

#201

Here's to recycled Australian flight attendants.

I HATE recycling in NYC. We have to do it by law, but the scavengers who come and rip apart all the recycling garbage bags and trash cans to take out the redeemable containers leave a mess, which attracts the rats, which makes life horrible - especially in warmer weather.

And, no, I'm not a heartless person who begrudges the elderly or homeless a few bucks. I'd rather the city had a program to pay them minimum wage to guard the garbage (and prevent the appearance of rats on the streets) and outlaw anybody ripping through the garbage.

#201,

Damn, when I flew internationally for years, we were way too busy trying to discourage couples from getting it on in the blue rooms to have any time for it ourselves.....

:)

#206 Evan

The problem is, the Jews are so malliable: If you want to trash Slavic Jews, then they are Slavic. If you want to trash Russian Jews, then they are Russian. If you want to trash European Jews en toto, well then, they are all European. But - and of course, right? - Jews are none of those (Being a Semitic race and all - minor technicality). Perfect cultural whipping boys, those Jews are: Make of 'em whatever you imagine. All you have to do is suspend reality and you're there.

Leftards are virtuoso reality suspenders.

correction:
Penn Jillette

#206

Isn't that ironic...
It's wrong for Jews to "kill and steal" in the name of God, but it seems OK for Muslims to do so for "Allah."

Hillary Clinton quote of the Day:

"The only thing I will try to do differently from my husband is not to make so many Dunkin' Donuts stops."

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Recycle as necessary

Pelosi flies disputed military jet home

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the subject of Republican criticism for her mode of air travel, flew home nonstop Thursday night aboard a 12-seat military aircraft set aside for use by lawmakers.

/no jumbo for Dumbo

Does anyone even care about comment #221 ?

221 blackpajamas

"The only thing I will try to do differently from my husband is not to make so many Dunkin' Donuts stops."

So are we to take that to mean a fat ugly intern will be giving her oral sex as she causes a recession?

I meant mine....last one....end of thread.
oh, never mind.

"The only thing I will try to do differently from my husband is not to make so many Dunkin' Donuts stops."

So she's going to have sex in the oval office with an intern and then lie about it?

224 - you beat me to it! now i don't feel as special...or as clever...

227 sunburned

Maybe if you learned to type with more than two fingers...

#224 tankdemon

*spit* *spit, spit* *spit, spit, spit*

That is the most obscene post ever on LGF.

I think I'm gonna puke.

#223,

Hilarity's trying a new approach in an effort to lighten up her dominatrix-like, humorless image. She said as much when she caught all the flak for her Freudian ' evil men ' foot-lunch.

...or you could always go with the old "great minds think alike" line that gets strewn about so recklessly here.

#228 tankdemon

People do that?

#231 tankdemon

Well, we wouldn't want to be cliche, so I'll allow the insult just this once.

#229,

It's not pretty, but then you can't really fault it for accuracy if she means what she said now, can you....

#224 tankdemon 2/10/2007 10:28PM PST

221 blackpajamas

"The only thing I will try to do differently from my husband is not to make so many Dunkin' Donuts stops."

So are we to take that to mean a fat ugly intern will be giving her oral sex as she causes a recession?

I heard (here) that she has better taste in women than Bill.

They are never going to get rid of the deposits for cans and bottles, I am suprised they don't expand it. If they got rid of the deposits, how will the illegal aliens be supported? or the worthless homeless. Favorites of the libs. These deposits support illegal aliens, I see them on the streets here with their shopping carts, bags loaded taller than the little lady that collects the cans early in the morning.

229 Hucbald
Please, don't act so scandalized. Can you honestly say that some other image came to mind when reading that quote? I don't think so.

Personally, I get shivers whenever I think about anyone named Clinton having sex with anyone...
It's like a car wreck though.

235 mjazzguitar

I heard (here) that she has better taste in women than Bill.

If Bill had any taste in women, would Hillary's last name be Clinton?

#239 tankdemon

That is one of the most intelligent things I've heard all night.

#73 sunburned
Hey, I have an idea. Instead of stealing food (corn) to make fuel (ethanol) lets develop a way to turn garbage into fuel - like in Back to the Future 2.
I know, I know, this sounds a lot like recycling...

"He's just a raggedy man!"

(Name that film.)

Now we're muddling our way to the solution -- a la Mad Max III: Return to Thunderdome!

In that film, energy is derived from pig sh*t. Turned it into methanol or something like that.

So, we could take garbage, feed it to the pigs, use the pig poop to make methanol, which we use as an energy source. Then we feed to ham from the pigs to the energy-plant workers, and the warmth from the plant heats the pig farm. The residue from the processing is to be mixed back into the soil as fertilizer, to grow more crops, to feed the populace. The garbage left over from the meals feeds the pigs, and the cycle starts all over again!

I think I've just found the solution to the energy crisis!

Sorta like the Kilkenny Kats, but in reverse.

to ham = the ham

PIMF

My State makes us pay a 5 cent deposit on glass which is then dumbed in a landfill. Libs, smarter than all the rest.

#241 zombie

I'm skeptical. So I'm supposed to haul a bunch of pigs around with me to power my car? What kind of fuel economy are we talking here - how much pig poop per mile?

#239,

You have to allow for regional vernacular... down here, that would have sounded like ' better tastin' women'... three words instead of four.
Come to think of it, either one works....

We just got our recycling trash cans a couple of months ago and these two come along and say it's bullshit?

Damn you Penn and Teller!

Damn you to Hell!

heh.

Before we got the cans, we just put everything in those little blue bags and some old guy in a beat up old Toyota truck would pick them up. Not even sure if he worked for the city.

Zombie-

And the muslims, who would not be allowed to associate with anything porcine, to include the energy, would still have plenty of oil to produce their power. Or they could get Russia, China and Germany to build them some nuclear reactors.

#184 J.D.

#165 Merovign
Was it this?
Who Gives to Charity?

Nope. The study I'm talking about was just attitudes about one's self and others around you, and it was in the mid-90s.

#154 DesertSage 2/10/2007 09:18PM PST

I recycled an ex girlfriend once back in the 80's. Big mistake.

I didn't recycle one soon enough, an even bigger mistake!

Putin hated this...

Bush praises Georgian democracy

BBC NEWS: VIDEO AND AUDIO
See President Bush address the crowds
(video link on right)

Overshadowed by this...

The US is investigating reports that a device, possibly hand grenade, was thrown towards President Bush as he visited Georgia.

Some ass hat tossed a grenade while thousands of people were cheering on the man that represents a country that freed them from tyranny.

Speaking of ' nothing more than feelings ', when did China get sensitized to anyone's feelings? It's the Year of the Pig, but they're not gonna show any pig pictures, because it might upset a Muslim.

249 Da_Beerfreak

I didn't even recycle girlfriend pet names. Makes it easier if you distingueish "Honey": from "Sweetness" from "Kitten."

The Psychodynamics of the Radical Liberal Mind

The first step toward an in-depth understanding of adult behavior is to comprehend its origins in childhood. Whether adaptive or maladaptive, the enduring patterns of thinking, emoting, behaving and relating that define adult personality begin in the early years of life. In fact, our earliest experiences with caretakers and others, acting on inherited temperament factors, strongly determine our later personality traits, including those expressed in political values and beliefs.

The dispositions of the liberal mind are no exception: his hopes and fears, beliefs and passions, values and morals are in great measure the legacy of his childhood from birth through adolescence. The traits that define who he is are the traits that lead him to pursue particular goals in the political arena and to use particular methods to achieve them.

The radical liberal mind’s goals are now familiar, of course, but another brief summary will prove useful in highlighting their essentially childlike nature. Just noted were the grandiose goals of providing for everyone’s material welfare and healthcare, protecting everyone’s self-esteem correcting all social and political disadvantages, educating all citizens, and eliminating all class distinctions.

In his pursuit of these goals, he intends to construct a universal human family, one united in bonds of mutual love, concern, caretaking and tolerance. Through drastic government action the radical liberal seeks the following: ...

Read the rest.

zombie

It's time to get Penn&Teller to do a B_llSh*t episode on Fake Ambulance missilles

And "Kinectic energy weapons" that cause real death and mayhem in Lebanon as their evil projectiles fall to the earth in built up areas.

e.g. What goes up, must come down ..... and Who is shooting all those rounds ?

They make holes in pavement when they come down, holes in houses, and if so unfortunate, holes in people.

I'm sorry, but I just can't stop thinking of Monica trying to get Shrill's pubes out of her teeth (Or, vice versa). "The Carpet Muncher in Chief?"

*gag* *retch*

Hillary enjoys...

"Going to bullfights... on acid."

Just another Caddyshack chick.

#229 Hucbald 2/10/2007 10:31PM PST

#224 tankdemon

*spit* *spit, spit* *spit, spit, spit*

That is the most obscene post ever on LGF.

I think I'm gonna puke.

You really are new here.

256 Hucbald

At least you didn't type "Skinny skiing"

#255 Hucbald

Thanks for the visual.

Pubes are good, floss is longer.

#218 Hucbald,

"Jews: The all-purpose, one-size-fits-all whipping boy."

I like it!

Libby Trial: The NBC Connection

The prosecution has rested in the Libby Trial, and like a fish left out in warm weather, a strange and unpleasant odor is becoming more and more apparent as the sun shines on case. NBC News, which has recently taken a turn to the left, plays a particularly prominent role in the prosecution's case. Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald is fighting hard to make sure reporter Andrea Mitchell's testimony is not heard, and is asking the jury to buy some highly implausible notions about a key FBI interview with NBC's Washington Bureau Chief Tim Russert.

#255 Hucbald

Ah geez. Thank you so much for that visual.

:^þ

_{You're eeeevil.}

The Greatest War Correspondent Ever?

Michael Yon, I mean. OK, there are other candidates. All I can say is, read this. If there has ever been any better first-hand war reportage from anyone, anywhere, I'd like to hear about it. I think Ernie Pyle would stand up and salute. This is in-depth reportage, not sound bites, so you have to read the whole thing, and not just one day's worth. But here are a couple of paragraphs:

Oh, I see it was tankdemon (#224) who brought up that beastliness. It's gonna take a lot more than a shot of Scotch to drive that out of my head...

::shiver::

Can anyone point me to any articles which debunk the notion of ethanol as an efficient source of energy?

#263 freedomplow

The Greatest War Correspondent Ever?

Michael Yon? He might be.

But it'll be a very long time before the mainstream realizes it.

#255 Hucbald
Thanks for that image. I'm going to sandpaper my eyeballs!

One of my favorite bumper stickers:

I Recycle Girls

How would ya'll recycle this?

#265 neocon hippie
Here's a great one from just the other day.
Expensive, wasteful ethanol can't solve our problems

Say It Right

#270

Thanks, sums it up nicely.

#269 MandyManners

How would ya'll recycle this?

If that doesn't clear my head of a Shrillery-Monica tryst, nothing will.

=^0

Two Italian Women Stoned to Death Off African Coast

She said the attackers sprayed the women with something and immobilized them before taking them to the woods where a hole had been dug in the ground. Speaking in a stunned voice, she said they were pelted with stones and she blacked out. When she awoke, she climbed out of the hole and walked down a road until she found help.

94% of Senegal are Mos.
Anyone want to bet it was 'religion' of peace at work?

Denmark is a tiny nation with very little space for landfills, and very limited natural resources to match - so we had no other choice but to recycle like crazy. And we are getting pretty damn good at it too - send Penn and Teller to Denmark, and we'll show them how to recycle their own bullshit!

All organic waste - including cardboard (but not paper), and some plastics (Polyethalene) are simply burned in huge incinerators that produce both heat (for our central heating systems) as well as electricity for the various communities around Denmark.

However, burning stuff (at these low temperatures) creates exhaust that is filled with all kinds of 'nasties' - so we filter the exhaust from these plants to the point where the exhaust is actually cleaner than the air surrounding it. What do we do with the filters after they are saturated with these 'nasties'? Burn them in special ovens at an even higher in temperature of course! Ya see, anything on this planet will burn into something non-toxic if one cares to burn it at a high enough temperature - so that is what the Danes have done with their organic garbage. They use it as fuel for their heat/powerplants, instead of coal, uranium or oil. Works just fine over here!

Paper gets recycled into a multitude of products: new paper (of course), cardboard, the cartons that ya'll buy eggs in, insulation panels for homes (Denmark is REALLY cold in the winter), and all kinds of different containers and boxes. We even mix in some non-toxic, weatherproof glue to create pallets for international shipping (they are also burned in our incinerators when their lifespan is over).

About 10 years ago, Denmark had a huge rumble with the European Union about Danish unwillingness to incooperate cans (like sodapop cans and the likes) into their bottle return system. The reason for this was because Danes were developing an even better container for beverages and the likes, using two basic plastics that could either (easily) be reused to make new bottles, or burned cleanly in our incinerators.

It takes WAY more energy to remelt aluminum cans at high temperatures than it does to just chop up old plastic and remelt it at lower ones. I kinda like the plastic bottles - although, for some odd reason I haven't figured out yet - beer always seems to taste better when it comes out of a can.

Anyway, Danes reuse their garbage as 'free' fossile fuel - and its partly the reason why Denmark has become so damn rich in later years.

Metals (like the aforementioned cans) always present an interesting challenge, don't they? Too dense to just burn as fuel, yet not dense enough to reuse for serious metal parts, like automotive and aircraft parts and the likes.

We melt them up and pour in a little brass or stainless steel and create all those fixtures that one has around ones house: hinges, latches, flanges, doorknobs and handles, brackets of all sizes and shapes, pins, paperclips, staples, screws, nails and so on. The businesses that do this almost always buys these old cans and metals at a reduced price - so they get cheaper raw materials to work with - and we get rid of our metals in an economically profitable and environmentally safe way.

Glass is so damn expensive to create from scratch, and needs so many chemicals to purify, that it simply made good business sense to reuse already purified glass. Almost all mirrors and window panes in Denmark are made from recycled glass.

Old beerbottles are returned, washed off with steam, microwaved (to kill off any remaining bacteria) and refilled with beer again. All at a cheaper price than would have otherwise been the case (of beer - sorry, I couldn't resist).

Oh, and we don't hire people to sort Danish waste - we have computer controlled machines for that sort of thing.

I don't know what the hell ya'll are doing wrong stateside - but the tiny nation of Denmark has figured out how to make REAL money off of its waste, as well as turn it into cheaper raw materials for its businesses.

No Bullshit!

American Viking,

WOW. That was interesting!

One of America's strengths is that she is so very big. That's also a weakness in some ways. Recycling is mostly done on the local level, and varies a lot depending upon one's neighborhood.

In my little corner of the world, we bag or tie old newspapers - or any paper - and throw all cans and glass into one container. I assume a machine does the separating (wouldn't that be a crappy job if it didn't?), and we have a truck for paper and a different truck for everything else do pick ups on recycle day, so I guess the stuff goes to two different places.

I haven't been able to bring myself to go to township meetings or even watch them on TV (I have nightmares afterwards) for the past few years, but knowing our commissioners, we would not be bothering with a recycling program at all if it wasn't some sort of profit making enterprise.