Get a half-billion dollar raging clue, NYT.

This is so strange.

They forgot a couple:

-Set the Time Machine to 9/10/01

And

-Surrender

Brutality toward prisoners, and the denial of their human rights, have been institutionalized;

Are they reading the saudi constitution?

Oh my NYT are communists. This is news?

I'm REALLY glad I'm not relying on the NYT for my retirement.
Those shares gotta have a stink all there own about now.

If they're going to make up a list like that then they only really need the following item on it:

1. Ban the United States of America

Clearly, that would solve everyone's problems. Let it join the EU (as a junior member, of course), sign the Kyoto Protocol and abandon Israel [Insert Howard Dean yeaaaaah here]

Lawless policies (and Congress-passed laws) that Clinton-appointed lower courts have pretty much universally upheld.

It is almost as if Sept. 11 never happened, in New York. Bush just stole the election and started collecting lists of books people were checking out of libraries and locking up people with brown skin for no reason what so ever!

America’s global reputation

The NYT should worry less about whether the rest of the world likes us. The world should worry more about whether we like them.

When you're the sole superpower, you will never be loved. Get used to it.

You've got to be kidding, a terrorist bill of rights?

I refuse to register at the NYT so I can't read the article.

I grew up reading the NYT.

As recently as 2000 I bought it daily (newsstand!)

Now I can't pick it up even if its free.

It is, truly, a SAD story. How can one institution go so wrong?

Then again, I know the answer...family owned business....hubris....

5 bucks says Pinch wrote that one himself. 10 bucks says he cribbed 95% of it from the DNC website.

Ochs must be kicking the dirt off his grave.

I just took a look through the log of attempted comment posts from unregistered visitors, and whoa. The unhinged left was really climbing the walls today. I haven't seen comments this insane since the 2004 election.

Thanks again to the MSM for making terrorism work.
/

The NT Times anthem:
I hate myself.
I hate myself.
I'm a worm and I eat dirt.

Charles,

Can you enable them for a few minutes?

Better Define ‘Classified’ Evidence

The military commission rules define this sort of secret evidence as “any information or material that has been determined by the United States government pursuant to statute, executive order or regulation to require protection against unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national security.” This is too broad, even if a president can be trusted to exercise the power fairly and carefully. Mr. Bush has shown he cannot be trusted to do that.

The nyt's real problem with "Classified Evidence" is that it prohibits them from publishing certain information they've deemed news worthy, and hence, prevents them from propagating their anti-American agenda.

Restore Habeas Corpus

Boy, they would've hated Lincoln.

#13 Charles

Diggbats following us back here, wanting to enlighten us as to the proper intelligent way to think?

#18 DesertSage

LOL - I thought the same thing.

You know, I have a 'Must Do List', too but it doesn't look a thing like that one.

#16 Stuck in california

Charles,

Can you enable them for a few minutes?

It could be kinda fun if they could go into a quarantined batbox off to the side for our amusement.

5 jrdroll

HA! You're just jealous.

#13 Charles

Come on Charles, post some of them for us....please. :')

13 Charles

The unhinged left was really climbing the walls today.

Is it Michelle's stalker that's set them off?

Kinda like a monkey cage.

...That must be a true treasure trove.

The unhinged left was really climbing the walls today.

Must be the eclipse tonight. They don't call 'em moonbats and lunatics for nothing, you know.

#27 prospero

I think you got it. Lost contact with the rest of the Borg. Unable to think complete thoughts on their own.

Well right away the NYT starts in with:

Restore Habeas Corpus

But Lincoln suspended that during the Civil War.

& We're at war now.

& Some exceptions need to be made.

Whine Whine Whine, NYT.

Stop it.

Disgusting.

The editorial board of The New York Times would end the war against the global jihad, and return to the days when the response to the global jihad would be just to regard events as something that the criminal justice system can handle.

The editorial board of The New York Times does not understand the magnitude of the threat of the global jihad, which is a grave threat to civilization as we know it.

The events of 9/11 were a wake-up call to most Americans, but the NYT wants to slumber on, and return to the ignorance of 9/10.

Given a choice between fighting to survive, or desperately trying to please European appeasers, the editorial board of the NYT would choose the option of trying to please. To The New York Times, survival is much over-rated; they don't think survival is all that important, compared to the joys of self-delusion and futile attempts at appeasement.

Yes, mostly about Mike the Stalker.

You'll just have to take my word on this one -- I can't post this stuff because it would reveal too much about the Blog Engine. But let's just say that a lot of these freaks not only see nothing wrong with Stark's creepy stalking behavior, they're cheering him on.

Charles!
You have struck comedy gold my friend!
Please, I have never asked a favor of you before, but could you please post the most unhinged of the lot?

Please!
Please!
Please!

:)

#13 Charles

I just took a look through the log of attempted comment posts from unregistered visitors, and whoa. The unhinged left was really climbing the walls today.

The server saves those things? Cool!

Is it like watching the inmates in an asylum throwing themselves at the walls?

Charles,

Never mind........

Answered and asked!
Dang! :(

#22 mandy

HA! You're just jealous.

Sad that the Political class are snobs or a term usually disparaging a male homosexual

Here is a link that I think all of you will find very interesting. Just follow the instructions and don't forget to scroll all the way down. It's my little contribution to your wonderful site .

[Link: www.globalincidentmap.com...]

OMG, that sounds like Imus and Olbermann worked their personal wishlist into a real media outlet.

First, we must execute those war criminals Chimpey McHalliburtan and Darth Vader...

In the mean time, our forces in Afghanistan (my niece's husband?) may be trying to kill OBL. I wonder if that means they'd be guilty of murder in the glazed eyes of the NYT?

Just freeking repulsive.

This is not on the NYT's to-do list:

"Hang traitors that publish secrets."

31 Charles

they're cheering him on.

They're cheering on a crime against a woman?

I believe I read that rendition was started or at least approved by Clinton,but I don't recall the nyt being upset about that,or Tomahawks shot at aspirin factories,or bombing Kosovo,or anything Clinton did.

Charles I don't care to see the crazy comments, there is an NPR station in my area & I can just turn on the radio anytime, almost.

And why do they bother to try and post if they're not registered?

New York Whats-its-name? Never heard of it. You're not talking about one of those newspaper things are you? Oh wait, I know, its that thing I line the bird cage with.

Hold on, you mean you're supposed to READ that tripe?! You've got to be kidding me!

The NYTs' credibility has already bottomed out. A long time ago.

Can we nuke the NYT? Or would that be what they term as excessive force? We may as well face it, we have more enemies in the form of communist wannabes and terrorist sympathizers here at home than anywhere. They keep calling to bring the troops home, well lets...and turn them loose on the bastards like this who are undermining our country. Once we've cleared the slime then perhaps we might have a chance to defend this country from foriegn enemies.

I agree. Close Guantanamo and ship all the inmates directly up to the NY Times Building in NYC. Then weld the doors shut once they're inside. By my calculations, that should take care of a couple of problems in no time.

"a quarantined batbox"

lol....

Ojoe: because they're idiots, and because they're so angry they can't even see straight.

Notice that they post no list of non- terrorists who have "disappeared" under the patriot act. Even if everything they call for was done, it would not create peace. It would cost more lives on our side.

I made a small error in my post - the NYT is a media outlet, but my use of real sounded a little like I acknowledged their legitimacy. I do not.

I think as long as they hang on to that Pulitzer for covering for genocide in Uncle Joe's Soviet Union, they're - well, the NYT.

Carrying water for dictators and murders for a hundred years, whoop-dee-doo.

PIMF - murderERS

48 Charles

I Guess so !

NYT is indicative of the cultural co-dependance we see in the libs; always worrying what other people think, toadying up, servile and obsequious to the bully, but nasty, mean and vile to the nice guy.

Just what you find on any grammar school playground.

And why do they bother to try and post if they're not registered?

Same reason that the zombies in "Dawn of the Dead" kept bumping into the glass at the mall: too brainless not to.

#40 MandyManners

They're cheering on a crime against a woman?

They support islamofascism, don't they? Why should that surprise you?

46 MadHamster

LOL!

#42 Ojoe

And why do they bother to try and post if they're not registered?

Stupid monkey syndrome?

NYT on Habeas Corpus:

Restore Habeas Corpus

One of the new act’s most indecent provisions denies anyone Mr. Bush labels an “illegal enemy combatant” the ancient right to challenge his imprisonment in court. The arguments for doing this were specious. Habeas corpus is nothing remotely like a get-out-of-jail-free card for terrorists, as supporters would have you believe. It is a way to sort out those justly detained from those unjustly detained. It will not “clog the courts,” as Senator Graham claims. Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the Democratic chairman of the Judiciary Committee, has a worthy bill that would restore habeas corpus. It is essential to bringing integrity to the detention system and reviving the United States’ credibility.

What kind of Communist crap is this? Who needs ancient rights or a Contsitution when you have the President's word on who the bad guys are?

31 Charles

...a lot of these freaks not only see nothing wrong with Stark's creepy stalking behavior, they're cheering him on.

Deep down inside they're all just a hoard of wanna-be Stalinists.

I guess the question is, Charles, why these over-stuffed commentators are so angry? This I have not understood. Hatred of their country, culture, religion, race,..... So different.

31 Charles

That's sick, and sadly not surprising.

Charles,
Could you maybe have an "immigration lottery" for just a few of the authors of the most freakier messages?
I have been kicked off every "progressive" BBS in the known universe and it's a slow night for the clamster.

Something stinks. And it ain't Kilgore.

Today we’re offering a list — which, sadly, is hardly exhaustive

Bwahahahaha. I love it when moonbats get so exasperated that they double the recommended adverb dosage like that. But really, thats just bad writing. What, do interns run the place on weekends?

NYT still preaching to their choir as they watch their market share go down the drain.

30 EE

To The New York Times, survival is much over-rated; they don't think survival is all that important, compared to the joys of self-delusion and futile attempts at appeasement.

This can be seen in their revenues and their inaction to correct the reasons behind it. I'll agree with them- the survival of the nyt is over-rated, and unimportant.

Terrorist Bill of Rights

1. You have the right to be shot ---- BANG!

Signed the American Public

Somewhat on topic, somewhat off topic...this is hilarious:

[Link: www.websurdity.com.nyud.net:8080...]

"Uncomfortable Questions: Was the Death Star Attack an Inside Job?”

....1) Why were a handful of rebel fighters able to penetrate the defenses of a battle station that had the capability of destroying an entire planet and the defenses to ward off several fleets of battle ships?...."

They think the Bush administration has gone too far? Given the chance if I had anything to say about it, even the janitors of the NY Times would be in jail for even associating with this bunch.

Whenever I see or hear about the NYT spewing their Marxist/Socialist/Appeasing garbage, my wish for all the Journalists/Editors at the Times, and any who agree with their editorial political positions is to endure the stings of a thousand Scorpions every hour, of every day for eternity ... At a minimum.

No pain, no punishment can be sufficient to pay for their duplicitous acts. May they all soon be devoured by the offspring of the worms who fed from Walter Duranty's treasonous carcass.

If we give all terrorists 72 virgins while they are alive (maybe all the fat chicks or something), will they stop killing people to get them in heaven?

...essential to bringing integrity to the detention system and reviving the United States’ credibility.

I'm sorry - to whom is the NYT worried about being credible? That just jumps out at me, and it makes me wonder who they think their audience is... The "world"?

The same folks that watch the beebs, think that Blair is really a poodle, the same folks that think Spain got it right by letting terrorists dictate their foreign policy?

Sorry, that's a horribly written sentence, but I'm tired and a little outraged that a US paper can support terrorists. It's even worse that this paper is within walking distance of a hole that saw the deaths of 3,000 Americans. Just lovely.

Looks like we got another LGF groupie at digg.....technopagan. Fancies itself smart, like all the others.

Hey Moonbats, since you're reading this I can talk directly to you.

This Stark character is a raving psychotic. He should be restrained and observed by an army of psychologists. He is dangerous and will eventually hurt somebody someday if he doesn't get the right kind of attention immediately. He needs medication and treatment (much like most of you).

Don't these people realize that if we were in such danger from our fascist government they wouldn't be able to publish this garbage ? Oh wait, maybe the evil, oppressive government realizes nobody reads this pathetic rag anymore. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. And scary. I guess they have to perpetuate the myth that they're "brave" journalists.

because they're idiots, and because they're so angry they can't even see straight.

Same could be said of the NYT.

As usual, more rantings from the leftist-seditionist wing of our country

#68 Uncle Joe

You know, you just may be on to something there. Maybe the reason why we have so many conspiracy freaks out there is that they've never read a non-fiction book in their lives. It has to be a conspiracy or it's too boring.

55 E2m

I'm just different from them. If someone were to stalk Shehan or any of her ilk, I'd be against the stalker. Wrong is wrong, no matter the target.

58 Q-burn

What is the argument to deny habeus corpus?

This is a joke, right? This can't possibly be an editorial in a real newspaper, one that I read every day (well, only the obits and the food & dining section). This has just got to be a fukkin joke.

31 Charles

I can't post this stuff because it would reveal too much about the Blog Engine.

That thing got a Hemi?

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Putin don't play...
Russian Expert Shot Near D.C.-Area Home

#78 MandyManners

My point was that we've already established that they have misogynist leanings, so it shouldn't be surprising that they want to egg on a stalker.

BTW, have you heard Ginn's stalker story? It would be funny if it wasn't so sick. He was a psychiatrist.

#81 mich-again

He can't reveal that.

/I think it's a flathead-8.

#79 Mandy

That's what I'd like to know. Haven't heard a good one yet.

82 cbinflux

I thought the cops liked two black muggers for that.

Liberals, oh liberaaaals,..

Please, define for me exactly when the U.S. had a glowing global reputaion.

If the MSM keeps pimping the catechism of an alleged mythical time when the U.S. was somehow a sterling paragon of international virtue, against which not even the most round heeled Frenchman, proudly bracing themselves against the white-flag collection of their ancestors - tossing as many stale baguettes as their 35 hour work week can afford against us, when exactly did this esteemed era occur?

Are the answers buried in the rubble of Bill Clinton's bombing of the Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia?

"China's demands for an apology followed the suspension of talks on weapons proliferation, international security and human rights."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I notice (yet again) that critics of the MCA 2006 fail to note that courts are barred from hearing writs of habeas corpus only from alien enemy combatants; if you are a US citizen you still have that right.

I post the relevant Section 7 here:

SEC. 7. HABEAS CORPUS MATTERS.

(a) IN GENERAL.—Section 2241 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by striking both the subsection (e) added by section 1005(e)(1) of Public Law 109–148 (119 Stat. 2742) and the subsection (e) added by added by section 1405(e)(1) of Public Law 109–163 (119 Stat. 3477) and inserting the following new subsection (e):

‘‘(e)(1) No court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to
hear or consider an application for a writ of habeas corpus filed by or on behalf of an alien detained by the United States who has been determined by the United States to have been properly detained as an enemy combatant or is awaiting such determination.

‘‘(2) Except as provided in paragraphs (2) and (3) of section 1005(e) of the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005 (10 U.S.C. 801 note), no court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider any other action against the United States or its agents relating to any aspect of the detention, transfer, treatment, trial, or conditions of confinement of an alien who is or was detained by the United States and has been determined by the United States to have been properly detained as an enemy combatant or is awaiting such determination.’’.

83 E2m

Moonbats are misogynists?! I thought they were history's biggest feminists.

Where to start? What a bunch of crap.
The economy is great = exact a toll in human lives. Oy. To these idiots President/weatherman Bush is responsible for tornados, hurricanes, snow, rain, excessive heat, cold,...

/I thought "W" was, well, lacking?

#18
"Boy, they would've hated Lincoln."

They did hate Lincoln. The NY Times existed in the 1860's, and they gave President Lincoln (almost) the same sh!t they're giving Bush today.

85 Q-burn

Well, if they're American citizens, they have a right to habeus corpus.

#81 mich-again:

No, but he did remove the 4-cylinder and put in a 455 a few days ago. I don't think he's taken it out on the track yet, though. He's still checking his connections and torques.

#89 MandyManners

Time to put your thinking cap on.

This is the most sickeningly vile, ill-informed, anti-American editorials I've ever read.

Jihadist slam planes into our buildings and Blow up cars killing innocnet people in the streets and behead and execute anyone they capture and WE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE AT FAULT !

Seriously Times I say we keep the terrorists in jail and ship you over to Iraq to deal with the ones we dont have captured.

Again where is ANY ANY ANY condemation of the brutal Iraqi regeme or the Islamic nutcases that are mass murdering on a grand scale all over the globe ?

NY TImes you have become genocide abettors and islamofacist apologists.

This is disturbing ... for while we all know the NYT probably isn't fit for bird cage liner -- wouldn't want my parakeet to get any more bird-brained ideas -- but seriously, this is a paper than many people read. It's at every Starbucks here in LA, and I assume, across the country, and people buy it. And they are obviously influenced by it.

And might I add, intellectually dishonest.

Ban Extraordinary Rendition

This is the odious practice of abducting foreign citizens and secretly flying them to countries where everyone knows they will be tortured. It is already illegal to send a prisoner to a country if there is reason to believe he will be tortured. The administration’s claim that it got “diplomatic assurances” that prisoners would not be abused is laughable.

A bill by Representative Edward Markey, Democrat of Massachusetts, would require the executive branch to list countries known to abuse and torture prisoners. No prisoner could be sent to any of them unless the secretary of state certified that the country’s government no longer abused its prisoners or offered a way to verify that a prisoner will not be mistreated. It says “diplomatic assurances” are not sufficient.

Here's a list for you nyt:

Saudi Arabia
Iran
Syria
Egypt
Yemen
Oman
Pakistan
China
North Korea

And that's just a starter.

Well, in light of NYT's recent losses, I'm sure few if any look to them for advice on how to fix things...or on anything else important.

#87 blackpajamas

Liberals, oh liberaaaals,..

Please, define for me exactly when the U.S. had a glowing global reputaion.

Maybe they're thinking of the Carter administration? Didn't they like us then?

Well, except for the whole hostage thingy....

#93 victor_yugo
Does it have headers, a cold air intake and dual exhaust?

94 E2m

My thinking cap is gone. The molar that abscessed before Christmas is acting up again. Despite a Darvocet, I'm still in agony.

Good news is, maybe they'll let the staff of the NYT live, after the takeover.

Except the Jews. They'll have to be killed. The other 5 % of NYT staff can stay. If they pay the jizya. And revert.

#87 blackpajamas

Please, define for me exactly when the U.S. had a glowing global reputation.

As far as that goes, when has any country in history ever had a positive reputation among the rest of the world? The world doesn't work that way, never did, and never will.

Trying to be liked is a loser's game. Winners try for respected. And the countries that are respected are always the cause of perpetual grumbling.

Welcome to reality.

#92 Mandy

Except when they are designated enemy combatants. At the President's exclusive discretion.

I just looked over the list.

My first guess is that there is still a lack of oxygen in the editorial board room at the NYT.

It is very easy to see how the NYT has become the vocal centerpiece of the far left. They think that the world revolves around them. I think that it's very interesting that the City of NY has one of the largest counter-terrorist organizations outside of the CIA. It operates in several different countries and utilizes the same techniques that this idiot paper is decrying. In just thinking about it, I imagine that they have no rules on their activities like the CIA or other federal organizations. Do you see criticism about it? I wonder if the NYT even knows about it?

#103 MandyManners

Ouch. I had a dental abscess last fall. Not fun. And I won't gross you out with how it was eventually resolved.....

I thought that we are supposed to win this war? The NYT is a bunch of perfect dhimmis who cannot find the spine to stand up and defend their God given rights against the ideology of the dark ages. They must be kicked to the curb and ignored, otherwise they endanger the rest of us.

"It was a defeat for America’s image around the world."

I've always liked the " Let' em hate so long as they fear" image. Now we have a lot of hating and not nearly enough fearing.

106 Q-Burn

That's what I thought.

108 E2m

I'm looking at another root canal. Shit.

Larry, what's that great big sucking sound? It's the sound of the NYT's profits spiraling down the drain!

Are the 5 years up yet?

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

"I really don't know whether we'll be printing the Times in five years, and you know what? I don't care either," he says.

Here is what the Constitution says about Habeas Corpus, in Article I:

"The Privlege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

And you could certainly consider sleeper cells an Invasion, and if they are homegrown, a Rebellion.

Ban Torture, Really

The provisions in the Military Commissions Act that Senator McCain trumpeted as a ban on torture are hardly that. It is still largely up to the president to decide what constitutes torture and abuse for the purpose of prosecuting anyone who breaks the rules. This amounts to rewriting the Geneva Conventions and puts every American soldier at far greater risk if captured. It allows the president to decide in secret what kinds of treatment he will permit at the Central Intelligence Agency’s prisons. The law absolves American intelligence agents and their bosses of any acts of torture and abuse they have already committed.

If there is a greater risk than getting your head removed with a hacksaw I'd like to hear about it from the nyt. If there is a greater risk than having your body beaten, burned, dragged behind vehicles, and hanged off a bridge, again, I'd like to hear about it from the nyt.

I'm just numbed by the naivete of the whole "Nobody likes us anymore" crowd.

Resentment of a sole dominant power is universal in any system. People are not going to like us, unless we:

- lose power
- give our power away
- get knocked down a few steps. or
- continue doing what we're doing while some other comparable power(s) come on the scene

China will be on the scene soon enough. Then, India. There will be plenty of time for everyone to stop hating us, after a few more powers have made it to the A list.

In the meantime, why do we *care* if other countries like us? What difference does it make? I do not care if the Indonesians like us. I prefer that the French don't like us. I just don't understand the entire mindset of "We have to change because others resent us". Seriously, wouldn't you resent and be wary of some entity with 13,000 nuclear weapons, the strongest economy in the history of the planet, the strongest military in history, the most dynamic, innovative people, and a bit of a self-righteous streak? Other countries are jealous and wary for good reason - it's a sign of our success.

This whole "apologize to the world" thing makes my head want to f'ing explode.

Having announced my candidacy for President here last night, I'm sure you're all wondering about my position on this matter. I have some answers for th NYT.

Our list starts with three fundamental tasks:
Restore Habeas Corpus

F*ck that.

Stop Illegal Spying

F*ck that.

Ban Torture, Really

F*ck that.

Close the C.I.A. Prisons

F*ck that.

Account for ‘Ghost Prisoners’

F*ck that.

Ban Extraordinary Rendition

F*ck that.

To address this mess, the government must:
Tighten the Definition of Combatant

F*ck that.

Screen Prisoners Fairly and Effectively

F*ck that.

Ban Tainted Evidence

F*ck that.

Ban Secret Evidence

F*ck that.

Better Define ‘Classified’ Evidence

F*ck that.

Respect the Right to Counsel

F*ck that.

If I didn't know the New York Times had always been this DUMB, I would think this was post 9/11 Stockholm Syndrome.

Wake up!

We are at war. During a war, you don't attack your own government and demand rights for the enemy.

If Bush was a fraction of the draconian monster he is portrayed as, he'd lock the New York Times up for sedition. Perhaps he should anyway.

As for the Islamofascists caught in the war zone and held at Gitmo - sorry, we don't believe you were merely vacationing in Afghanistan.

point #3- Ban Torture, Really

It is still largely up to the president to decide what constitutes torture and abuse for the purpose of prosecuting anyone who breaks the rules. This amounts to rewriting the Geneva Conventions and puts every American soldier at far greater risk if captured.

Do they really, really think that Al-Qaeda follows Geneva Convention guidelines? Are they really that stupid? If one of our soldiers gets captured by Al-Qaeda torture is the last thing he would be worried about.

Lefties really are that stupid aren't they?

"Ban torture, really"

Then just go on and go out of business already

117 fyvjoe

Machiavelli said it was better to be feared than to be loved & he was right.

Basically what the NYT wants is to take away all the tools available to the President. Tools that have been used by other Presidents acting in their role as CIC.

Has the NYT complained about Putin yet? Would the NYT approve of the SecGen of the UN having these tools and powers?

#102 Killer Tomato:

Yes, yes, and yes.

/some "yes"'s more abstract than others

116 Sharmuta

They seem to miss your points. The only word I can come up with is that they are delusional.

#115 Ojoe
You're right, but the government has not made that claim. You won't find "enemy combatant" in the Constitution.

126 QB

Ah well GWB has not been the clearest explainer of the times we're in, but I can see the need of keeping Padilla locked up.

Good Night All.

Hey NoamSayin!

Go to the lounge for a few minutes.

#37 Eyes of Blue

Thank you, and welcome to Lizardville!

It will require forceful steps by this Congress to undo the damage. A few lawmakers are offering bills intended to do just that, but they are only a start. Taking on this task is a moral imperative that will show the world the United States can be tough on terrorism without sacrificing its humanity and the rule of law.

Today we’re offering a list — which, sadly, is hardly exhaustive — of things that need to be done to reverse the unwise and lawless policies of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

At least this was under the "editorial" section and not a real news story. Try telling this to 3,000 people who were working in the WTC on 9/11 or the Pentagon. Oh right you cant. They were murdered by the people who mentioned n this article. Don't forget about the people on United 93 who saved many more lives. I would love to see many of the NYT staff frog-marched out of the building on treason charges.

126 Q-Burn

How about "invasion"? Have we been invaded by our own citizens who've learned how to wage war against us?

#126 Q-Burn,

It's not specifically stated in the Constitution, but it can be found in the penumbra.

#105 Earth2moonbat

"Trying to be liked is a loser's game."

Why heck, that almost sounds like a Johnny Cash song. Nancy Pelosi, how does it feel to be surrounded by a Burning Ring of Reality?

MandyManners:

Does your dentist have cartoons?

So Noam', basically you're running on the "F*ck that" platform?

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Meanwhile, back in Washington....

On Feb. 14, 2007, Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) introduced H.R. 1022, a bill with the stated purpose, “to reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes.”

With the nation’s murder rate 43% lower than in 1991, and the re-legalized guns still used in only a small percentage of crime, reauthorizing the Clinton Gun Ban would be objectionable enough. But McCarthy’s “other purposes” would make matters even worse. H.R. 1022 would ban every gun banned by the Clinton ban, plus millions more guns, including:

• Every gun made to comply with the Clinton ban. (The Clinton ban dictated the kinds of grips, stocks and attachments new guns could have. Manufacturers modified new guns to the Clinton requirements. H.R. 1022 would ban the modified guns too.)

• Guns exempted by the Clinton ban. (Ruger Mini-14s and -30s and Ranch Rifles; .30 cal. carbines; and fixed-magazine, semi-automatic, center-fire rifles that hold more than 10 rounds.)

• All semi-automatic shotguns. (E.g., Remington, Winchester, Beretta and Benelli, used for hunting, sport shooting, and self-defense. H.R. 1022 would ban them because they have “any characteristic that can function as a grip,” and would also ban their main component, called the “receiver.”)

• All detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles-including, for example, the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22 .22 rimfire-because they have “any characteristic that can function as a grip.”

• Target shooting rifles. (E.g., the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 “Garand.”)

• Any semi-automatic shotgun or rifle an Attorney General one day claims isn’t “sporting,” even though the constitutions of the U.S. and 44 states, and the laws of all 50 states, recognize the right to use guns for defense.

• 65 named guns (the Clinton law banned 19 by name); semi-auto fixed-magazine pistols of over 10 rounds capacity; and frames, receivers and parts used to repair or refurbish guns.

H.R. 1022 would also ban the importation of magazines exempted by the Clinton ban, ban the sale of a legally-owned “assault weapon” with a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity, and begin backdoor registration of guns, by requiring private sales of banned guns, frames, receivers and parts to be conducted through licensed dealers. Finally, whereas the Clinton Gun Ban was imposed for a 10-year trial period, H.R. 1022 would be a permanent ban.

Well, at least we can keep our spitballs (for the time being).

#72 Earth2moonbat

Looks like we got another LGF groupie at digg.....technopagan. Fancies itself smart, like all the others.

A real peach, isn't it?

#120 DesertSage,

Do they really, really think that Al-Qaeda follows Geneva Convention guidelines?

Any enemy combatants that mask themselves as civilians, lose all Geneva Convention protections in the first place. Even the Nazis didn't torture and kill American soldiers in WWll. They were still evil as can be because of what they did to the Jewish people, Russians, Poles, etc. But almost all of those put in Nazi POW camps survived.

#129 Bordm

Uh, okay. But I'm on a few blogs right now.

Despite my seemingly endless appetite for this place, my eyelids won't stay open any longer.

'Night, Lizards Everywhere. Sweet and fearless dreams to all.

OT
6 Sunnis slain for talking with Shiites

Six Sunni men who had received death threats for meeting with local Shiites were killed Saturday in execution-style slayings, Iraqi police and military officials said.
The attack near Youssifiyah, 12 miles south of the Iraqi capital, was apparently connected to rising sectarian violence that has included the claimed abduction and execution Friday of at least 14 members of the Shiite-led security forces. But in this case, Iraqi authorities said they believed Sunni gunmen had killed fellow Sunnis — revealing a rift between those who support reconciliation with Shiites and those who will kill to stop it.

Today we’re offering a list

So I'm supposed to give a rat's ass about what the traitors at the NYT think the US should do concerning combatting terrorism?

A: Everyone at the NYT's who had a hand in publishing top secret information regarding the NSA surveillance program, the SWIFT program, or the exact locations of our troops in Iraq should be investigated, and if found guilty, should be hung....in public!

B: If A is not enforced, lets release all of the terrorists at GITMO and place them on house arrest...in the homes of the NYT editorial staff.

135 victor_yugo

*sigh* Thank you so very bloody much. Did you pull the wings off butterflies when you were a boy?

*eg*

#133 Lummox-
Penumbra? I had to look that up... and I still don't know what it means!

#132 Mandy
Yes. And this is the subject of one of my favorite T-shirts:

[Link: www.westwindworld.com...]

#136 Killer Tomato
On Feb. 14, 2007, Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) . . . .

On Feb. 14, 2007, Representative Carolyn McCarthy (Moonbat-N.Y.) . . . .

There! Accuracy in the media and all that, Pinch Sulzberger and his dutiful stooges notwithstanding.

But they support the troops!

Another brit liberal entertainment only line from the movies:

"Kneel before Zod" tridentii.jpg buy a wii

/actually Terrence Stamp very much supports the effort AGAINST the war of terror brought by these Islamo...insert PC label here

he was noteworthy in Wall Street of course

but, let's hear it for Rear Admiral Glen Ford, Superman's father who recently passed.

and of course Jimmy Doohan who: took six rounds from a Bren gun fired by a nervous sentry:[1] four in his leg, one in the chest, and one through his right middle finger. The bullet to his chest was halted by the silver cigarette case he carried, and his wounded finger was amputated which he would conceal during his career as an actor.

at D-Day

"who were these MEN?"

Verdict 1982

when Oscar tm got it right

sndt

Johnny Carson. You're in a better place

And so the NYT throws out one of their life preservers. A sinking ship trying desperately to keep the rats from abandoning it, since no one of sound mind is left to ride that ship.

They're in financial deep water, and it's just that kind of tripe that has caused their decline and fall from grace. So, now this? Are they going out with a grand flourish "The Pen Is Mighter Than The Sword ! ...yarrrr", or do they want to force bankruptcy so they can file Chapter 11 and salvage at least a dingy from the poop deck?

I guess we'll find out later kids... stay tuned... same BAT time, same BAT Channel!

OT
In troubled times, American television offers brief escape

Iraqis turn to 'Seinfeld,' 'Friends', 'Desperate Housewives', 'Boston Public', etc. to seek distractions.

136 Killer Tomato

Please tell me that that has no chance of passing. I know it'd be vetoed if it passed the Senate, too, but, I don't even want to see it pass the House.

The 'penumbra' is where activist judges find those things that are not really in our Constitution. (Roe vs Wade).

#144 Q

Penumbra? I had to look that up.

Yea it is a real abortion.

144 Q-Burn

Cool shirt!

146 unionrepublican

Drink a lot water, fill up the glass with water one more time, place it beside your bed and lie down.

149...

It will pass in the House, despite all those "Blue Dog" Democrats that won in 2006. There is only one dog in the House, and to paraphrase a movie or two, she shares power with no one...you only have to look at how the "Blue puppies" voted regarding the non-binding surrender bill and last weeks union thuggery legislation. However, this bill will not make it through the Senate. Although, a vote on such garbage may be the final nail in McCain's coffin...yes, he would probably support this bill.

Stop Illegal Spying

Mr. Bush’s program of intercepting Americans’ international calls and e-mail messages without a warrant has not ceased. The agreement announced recently — under which a secret court supposedly gave its blessing to the program — did nothing to restore judicial process or ensure that Americans’ rights are preserved. Congress needs to pass a measure, like one proposed by Senator Dianne Feinstein, to force Mr. Bush to obey the law that requires warrants for electronic surveillance.

"Supposedly", huh? The nyt is really ticked their little info-bomb on these wire-taps didn't do more to damage Bush's presidency, and/or enrage the average American. Because the fact is these wire taps were never illegal, and the average American sees them as a legitimate, necessary tool to prevent another attack on American soil. I would wager a guess that the wire tapping story did more to damage the nyt than the President, and they're not over it.

110 eastvillageinfidel 3/3/2007 09:49PM PST

I've always liked the " Let' em hate so long as they fear" image. Now we have a lot of hating and not nearly enough fearing.

An awful lot of countries have a long ways to go to win our hearts and minds.

OT
3 million Muslims join mass prayer in Bangladesh seeking peace

147 SilverStar830

I think it was last Sunday's NYT that showed a decline in daily readership of newspapers from around 70 per cent to 30 per cent over the past 35 years.

Until sometime shortly after Sept 11, 2001, I too used to pick up this paper almost daily - until that is, I stumbled across a certain website and finally got it. Now, when I see a copy lying around at my local coffee shop, I read the headlines of page 1 - with disgust. I feel like I'm reading some bleeding pimple-faced college student's anarchist-socialist weekly. I can't help wondering what our guys, Bush and Cheney, must think in those two seconds when they're briefed on this this morning. I bet they just shake they're heads, also with disgust, and then say something funny, like "we begin bombing in five minutes...43rd street!"

How many times do they use "Mr. Bush" in that list?
Sounds like it was written by Keith Olbermann.
/I spit on the NYT

I find it strange that liberals will cleave unto the Roe v. Wade decison like it was gospel but will mock the supreme court decision regarding the 2000 election.

#118 Noam Sayin'
I enjoy your posts! I'll consider voting for you. If you're a write-in must I include the ' after Sayin?
I don't want another chad thing.
/is Noam Sayin' on your birth certificate?

154 SaneInMN

Oh, just great.

#149 Mandy

I realize you're in a lot of pain right now, so I won't make it worse. Don't worry about a thing - of course it'll never pass the House. Well, it won't pass in MY house anyway...

#143 MandyManners:

Seriously, those Tom & Jerry cartoons made the root canal so much easier to bear. I couldn't hear much over the drill, but I've already seen those cartoons a few hundred times, so the sound wasn't a prerequisite for enjoying them.

#160 carbon footprint

/I spit on the NYT

You should have more respect for your bodily fluids than that.

Whattaya you NYT liberals lookin' at? You're all a bunch of raving lunatics. You know why? 'Cause you don't have the guts to be what you wanna be. You need people like us. You need people like us so you can point your little fingers, and say "they're the bad guys." So, what's that make you? Good? You're not good; you just know how to hide. How to lie. We, we don't have that problem. We, we always tell the truth--even when we lie. So kiss your business goodnight from the bad guys. Come on; this's the last time you gonna see a single red nickel from bad guys like us, let me tell ya. Come on, try to grow your business without the bad guys. There's a bunch a bad guys money streamin' through the blogosphere; and it's all gonna get outta your way!

Good night, lizards.

Cya, Mandy!

It looks like I get to call the NY Times on their lack of intellectual honesty / journalistic standards / basic competence / etc.

The NYT’s article “The Must-Do List” reads like classic Marxizt propaganda.

It seems that the two-fisted-hard-drinkin’-stogie-chompin̵ 7;-Jonah-Jameson-wannabees need to revive their failing circulation and generate revenue, the public safety and truthful, accurate and complete public reporting is unimportant.

A better choice would to be to purge the ranks of the NYT hack editorial and reporter ranks, and hire competent writers, a balanced number from a political spectrum (time to inflict affirmative action on the press), and enforce fairness on editing, publishing, pay, raises and promotions.

This, then, is the price of abusing freedom of the press: no truly fair, balanced, complete and accurate reporting, leads to bankruptcy.

A discussion of a selection of the NYT’s “tasks”:

“Restore Habeas Corpus. One of the new act’s most indecent provisions denies anyone Mr. Bush labels an “illegal enemy combatant” the ancient right to challenge his imprisonment in court. . . .”

Since when do armed men, captured in a combat zone, have the right to challenge their detention? What ancient right is this?

How many armed men designated “illegal enemy combatant” were wearing a uniform at the time of capture? How many were dressed as civilians? How many were hiding among civilians when captured?

“The ancient right” to Habeas Corpus is a Western, Civilized concept. Where has it ever been practiced under Muslim rule? Does Shari’a law extend this concept to non-Muslims?

“Close the C.I.A. Prisons” Do the NYT Editors not read their own writing? Or do they feel that only they have sufficient mastery of Written English?

To close their article:
“Oh yes, and it is time to close the Guantánamo camp”

Even 6th graders are not fooled. Do the NYT Editors truly have a better solution to terrorism? No, they simply have no courage to stand up and support Western values.

“Ban Torture, Really. . . . This amounts to rewriting the Geneva Conventions and puts every American soldier at far greater risk if captured. . . .”

Daniel Pearl and a few other Americans would likely disagree with the “greater risk” argument.

Are the NYT Editors truly ignorant of the lack of adherence to the Geneva Conventions by the 9/11 hijackers, the Madrid Bombers, the (at least 2 sets of) London Bombers, the cowards who perpetrated Beslan? Or do the NYT Editors simply choose to not see? Perhaps they have some legally acceptable justification for each incident listed.

“Ban Tainted Evidence. . . . too permissive on evidence obtained through physical abuse or coercion. This evidence is unreliable . . . ”

Is this evidence, however obtained, used to convict the interrogatee, or is it used to locate fellow perps?

Remember 9/11, Beslan, London, Madrid? At some point, abuse of our western values causes them to fail.

“Ban Secret Evidence” / “Better Define ‘Classified’ Evidence” See previous response.

“Respect the Right to Counsel”

Amusing. We’ve already seen one lawyer conspire with a convicted perp to plot, well, murder. Another known lawyer, an ACLU lawyer, has been busted for child porn. If there are any masters of litigation-fu that oppose terrorism, they are silent.

Why should we trust any other known lawyer to prevent their clients from perpetrating more deaths of Americans and Europeans?

Then there’s the closing:

“Beyond all these huge tasks, Congress should halt . . . . . . . . . . should curtail F.B.I. spying on nonviolent antiwar groups and revisit parts of the Patriot Act that allow this practice.”

Previously, the NYT Editors have written articles describing how America defends itself against Al Q and other terrorists.

What “ nonviolent antiwar groups” do the NYT Editors have in mind? Al Q? The Taliban? No?

How many members of these groups, not previously mentioned in their article (clearly grounds for being fired), have members in Gitmo?

#88 MeanMrMustard

Part of that was recently ruled against in Hamdan_v._Rumsfeld as the court didn't like Congress' attempt to strip them of power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamdan_v._Rumsfeld

As to habeas corpus rights and the definition of enemy combatant- the jury is still out on that one. The law you cite only attempted to limit what the court couldn't do, not what it could. In any case (from sec.1 of MCA):

§ 948a. Definitions
‘‘In this chapter:
‘‘(1) UNLAWFUL ENEMY COMBATANT.—(A) The term ‘unlawful
enemy combatant’ means—
‘‘(i) a person who has engaged in hostilities or who
has purposefully and materially supported hostilities
against the United States or its co-belligerents who is
not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who
is part of the Taliban, al Qaeda, or associated forces);
or
‘‘(ii) a person who, before, on, or after the date of
the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006,
has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense.

And to the larger issue of habeas corpus in general:

One of the Bush administration's most far-reaching assertions of government power was revealed quietly last week when Attorney General Alberto Gonzales testified that habeas corpus -- the right to go to federal court and challenge one's imprisonment -- is not protected by the Constitution.

"The Constitution doesn't say every individual in the United States or every citizen is hereby granted or assured the right of habeas,'' Gonzales told Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing Jan. 17.

Gonzales acknowledged that the Constitution declares "habeas corpus shall not be suspended unless ... in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.'' But he insisted that "there is no express grant of habeas in the Constitution.''

Specter was incredulous, asking how the Constitution could bar the suspension of a right that didn't exist -- a right, he noted, that was first recognized in medieval England as a shield against the king's power to dispatch troublesome subjects to royal dungeons.

Later in the hearing, Gonzales described habeas corpus as "one of our most cherished rights'' and noted that Congress had protected that right in the 1789 law that established the federal court system. But he never budged from his position on the absence of constitutional protection -- a position that seemingly would leave Congress free to reduce habeas corpus rights or repeal them altogether.

Gonzales did not propose any such drastic rollback and devoted most of his discussion to fending off senatorial attacks on a law signed by President Bush last October. That law included a provision stripping federal courts of authority to hear habeas corpus suits by noncitizens classified by the government as "enemy combatants.'' Specter and Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., the Judiciary Committee chairman, are sponsoring legislation to undo the restriction.

But critics on both ends of the ideological spectrum said the attorney general was claiming a broader and more chilling power.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...

Certainly food for thought.

#37 Eyes of Blue
Very informative! Thanks.

#162 Abu bin Squid

Yes. Include the apostrophe. It's urban vernacular-meets-proper grammar.

I have always found it amazing that people like Charles put themselves out here on the internet and can remain so calm and non-chalant about the lunatics from the Left who attack him verbally on a daily basis.

I could never do it as i have the tendency to take such attacks personally. Im not thin skinned to name calling as i could care less abput being called a Nazi or a jack-booted fascist. I take umbrage at what the loonie Left calls America and Americans. After reading what some of these traitorous Leftists leave behind on the carpet i have to go hit my workout program and get out my anger. I dont know how you do it Charles but im glad to have someone like you on the correct side , on the side of sanity and morals.

How these wackos on the Left live with such anger, hate and lunacy is beyond me. They use the worse gutter language that you would hear from criminals and the insane. My wifes boss who is a criminal phsycologist agrees that many of these people border, if not cross over, on insanity and he has dealt with some of the worse kind of criminals including well known serial killers.

Many of the worst mass killers are/have been some very intelligent people yet they, just like the Left, seem to have violent tendencies, act rather immature under certian conditions, have no idea of right and wrong, poor or non-exsistant morals,tend to live in a fantasy world of their own making and extreme narcisistic tendencies. And the Left is loaded with those characteristics.

I would not be surprised if some of these moonbats have criminal tendencies. And i would not be surprised if many of them have been diagnosed with mental disorders some time in their lives. It seems possible after just reading what many of them post. They fantasize about death, murder and assasantion all the time. That to me signifys very sick and twisted minds.

Every day i find it amazing that i live and work among such people on a daily basis who would probally try to do me bodily harm if they could. It boggles my mind.

The largest enemy force America now faces is its own legion of elderly baby boomers. They started with Howdy Doody and Romper Room and moved on to the equally simple-minded '60's world views that they cling to to this day.

My apologies to the 50-something and 60-something boomers who are not moonbats, but the aging boomers at the NY Times are exactly the same as the millions of other gray-haired, pot-bellied wannabes who think they'll recapture their allegedly glorious youth by flashing peace signs at the latest ANSWER protest. The NY Times will not get one iota better until those fucktards die off and that's not going to happen in sufficient numbers for another 15 to 20 years.

"Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam, man-n-n-n. And Bush is the same as Nixon, man-n-n-n...."

136 Killer Tomato

This is precisely why we need a president that is pro 2nd amendment.

I keep telling people but they think the NRA is scaring people. Look, read, you will see..I tell them..but they wish not to. They won't understand how sacred that is until it's gone..just ask canada. When I meet some canadians they tell me...god..please protect your 2nd amendment.

FDR, Truman and Churchill are reaching maximum rpm in their graves.

From the same crowd that always frets about the danger to freedom posed by the Patriot Act, we have the latest attempt to ban free speech (being championed by John Conyers, of course):

Christian belief a 'hate crime' under plan: backup proposal would mandate jail time for dissing a 'gay'

The newest threat is being prepared by U.S. Rep. John Conyers, the head of the House Judiciary Committee, whose work is being called "The Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007," according to the Rev. Ted Pike, of the National Prayer Network.

.....

Marcavage told WND that plan would invert American justice, and instead of requiring evidence it would leave it to someone who claims to be offended to determine whether a "crime" has been committed.

"Truth is not allowed as evidence in hate crimes trials. … A homosexual can claim emotional damage from hearing Scripture that describes his lifestyle as an abomination. He can press charges against the pastor or broadcaster who merely reads the Bible in public. The 'hater' can be fined thousands of dollars and even imprisoned!" Marcavage said.

You can Digg this article.

#156 AirForceWife

"An awful lot of countries have a long ways to go to win our hearts and minds."

I'd almost settle for them knowing what's good for 'em and keeping their pieholes shut at this point.

Miss Manners-

fill up the hot water bottle (companion) at the pump
drop off the kids at the outside facility
read your Harper Lee 'fo yo sleep

and always mind your manners lest you compose a more eloquent lullaby

178 new_tommy

The only way I can reconcile this is that this is a mental disease. I just don't get this crap.

I just don't get it.

[singing] He's making a list, he's checking it twice...

Restore Habeas Corpus

That means "produce the body", right? Fine, easily done. [goes gets a burnt blasted to hell torso from the NYC Morgue, leaves it on NYT's doorstep] There we go, there's the body, next!

Stop Illegal Spying

Show me the US law that is being broken....oh, wait, he's not breaking any laws, so there that goes...

Ban Torture, Really

What, waterboarding? Loud music? Filet-O-Fish sammiches? Women rubbing their hooters against me? Heh, that's not torture, i could think of worse things; i was
told i could not use a *dog* but no one ever said anything about an AR Razorback...

Close the C.I.A. Prisons

Done. [shoots all Al Queda guys in the head, buries them in a hole in the ground] There, no more prisioners.

Account for ‘Ghost Prisoners’

"We'd like to announce that Hassen Bin Laid, leader of the Gulf Coast branch of Al Queda is currently being held in the Ville Platte City Jail." Yeah, right, so the moonbats will know where to protest and Hassen's buddies will know where to bomb?

Ban Extraordinary Rendition

Actually, Hasssan can avoid getting sent to a Turkish prision to face proscution there, all he has to do is TALK.

Tighten the Definition of Combatant

Anyone even sorta like the guys at Gitmo is a Combatant.

Screen Prisoners Fairly and Effectively

So we had a couple of teenagers at Gitmo. Red Cross said we should let them go and we did. RC went to check on them in Afghanstan and the teenagers asked to come back. HA! OTOH, they might be talking about screening the ones we let go, havent we sent some dudes back and they get picked up on the battlefield again?

Ban "Tainted" Evidence

I put the quotes, know wyh? Anyone who's ever seen Dirty Harry knows that's a guaranteed walk for the badguys. Not happening.

Ban Secret Evidence

Uh, huh, what was the name of that lawyer that was reprsenting that blind shiek fella? What was she doing, again? Passing messages? Yeah, ok, fine...NOT

Better Define ‘Classified’ Evidence

Anything that, if it ended up on the front page of your paper, would get me killed can be classified for all i care.

Respect the Right to Counsel

Under the glorious islamic justice system, do you even get a lawyer? No? So if not having a lawyer is something worth being a terrorist for, lets see you do it.

Muslims Find School Kosher

About half the students who attend the Jewish primary school King David, in Birmingham, England, are Muslims, and in fact, their parents work hard to get them in because they so respect the school's ethos and its halal-like diet. All students learn Hebrew, recite Jewish prayers, and celebrate Israeli independence, but there is a Muslim prayer room, also, and Muslim teachers are hired for Ramadan. However, confided one parent, the school tries to keep a low profile so as not to inflame the religious rabble-rousers. [The Independent, 2-4-07]

The Laws of Irony
In February, two anti-whaling activists (one from Australia, one from Los Angeles), intending to attack a Japanese whaling ship near Antarctica with a bottle of acid and a smoke bomb, got lost in the fog in their small dinghy and were rescued with the help of several boats, including the whaler. However, as soon as the activists were safe, one thanked the Japanese crew but said, "I guess we're back on schedule, and we'll be pursuing you again." Shortly after that, the activists approached the whaler and tossed the acid onto the deck, injuring two crew members. [Philadelphia Inquirer-AP, 2-11-07]

It is well-known that Saudi Arabia still prohibits women from driving cars (or riding in them unless accompanied by a male relative), but a December Associated Press dispatch from Riyadh reported on female automobile salespeople (who are successful in selling to females, who can own cars as long as someone else drives). Also, in January, a holding company owned by Saudi Prince Alwaleed ibn Talal hired a female pilot for one of its jets. The woman, Capt. Hanadi Zakariya Hindi, flies with no restrictions but still requires a male relative to get her to and from the airport. [ABC News-AP, 12-3-06] [The Hindu-Press Trust of India, 1-12-07]

NotW

118 Noam

I'll vote for you!

Today we’re offering a list — which, sadly, is hardly exhaustive — of things that need to be done to reverse the unwise and lawless policies of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

For some reason, I want to dig up the old Gunsmoke theme song. Lawless policies of the cowboy George W. Bush and his sharp shooting Deputy Dick Cheney?

I used to think the NYT had simply gone in the toilet. Now I realize the dogs ate it and left the remnants in the backyard of "Punch" Sulzberger, perhaps the most worth POS ever left in a stinking pile.

The language is completely indistinguishable from the kind of ugly moonbat rants you’d find at Counterpunch, Crooks and Liars, or Common Dreams.

Durring a recent visit to a local library I came across a booklet in the islam section titled Islam Will Conquer All Other Religions and American Power Will Diminish. Oddly enough, it was not published by the nyt, but after reading this op-ed, I think the editorial staff is familiar with it.

The lastest concerning the Goracle:

Gore's 'Carbon Offsets' Paid To Firm He Owns and The Gore-Milken Connection: Global-Warming Junk Bonds?

#189 princessgrace 3/3/2007 10:59PM PST

lol, I did grab some bottled water out of the Jeep

also tidied up another White Russian to clear out the stent...

the US medical armada must be blessed by Clark Kent Sr. himself!

You know the advertising campaign for my 60th anniversary Grand Cherokee?

#175 UncleJoe
And they have their own PAC - frankly, everytime I see an AARP commercial I want to throw something at the TV.

#176 Highrise
I'd be happy with a government that actually understood and respected our Constitution. And yes, I frequently hear that same comment (protect your 2nd Amendment) from people in countries around the globe.

And along those same lines...

#178 new_tommy
I'm starting to think Congress should only be in session 3 months out of the year. The less time our 'public servants' are at work, the less damage they can do to us.

I just wish to point out that American Civil Rights end the second you, an American Citizen, enter a foreign country. This was drilled into our head the second I landed in Iwakuni, Japan in 1998 and when I boarded a ship in Dec. 2001. If you’re lucky they'll hand you over for Military Justice but if they don't, don't expect the Military to fight hard to get you back as their hands are tied until you're released from prison. The same should apply to foreign combatants; they get treated fairly but do not get to enjoy American Civil Rights. I guess most people at the NYT don’t see the irony of giving American Civil Rights to the very people that want to destroy them.

174 JoiseyMafia

amen. Great post!

#178 new_tommy,

Christian belief a 'hate crime' under plan: backup proposal would mandate jail time for dissing a 'gay'

Only to be exceeded in mandated length by the use of the "N" word, mocking Mo, or making fun of gansta' rap.

I predict there will come a day when this will indeed happen. First you force people to privatize their faith like they are attempting to do now by keeping it out of public discourse under the guise of the 1st amendment. When that is successful, you tax them, harangue them, then force the Church out of existence thru fear.

Oh, the time is indeed a coming and the Church had better wake up before it is too late.

Grace re: the Silver Anniversary ed.
2001 Jeep tm

they only came in green, no not that green, carbon

Eisenhower Patton MacArthur

Not Paris Anna and Britney
tho they all smoke...

where's that .wmv clip

/from aboard cvn 77

#122 Ojoe . . .

Machiavelli said it was better to be feared than to be loved & he was right.

Belmont Club has a recent post on "Bob Hope's Cue Cards" or some such posting in which Wretchard discusses how LBJ's reluctance to punish those who blew up a hotel in South Vietnam, killing U.S. officers, led to North Vietnam's invasion of the South.

Showing weakness led to far more death and destruction than retaliation would have done. Why is it so hard for political leaders to understand this Machiavellian truth?

Busy day tomorrow, so I'm outta here.
Night lizards!

#189 Killer Tomato

I'm starting to think Congress should only be in session 3 months out of the year. The less time our 'public servants' are at work, the less damage they can do to us.

I agree! They used to have to ride horses to get to Congress. Now they fly in and out, some use planes, others brooms.

Hoorah

When it absolutely positively must be destroyed overnight

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double YOUR fun MM

#178 new_tommy

Here's the 'meat' of the law:

SEC. 4. PROHIBITION OF CERTAIN ACTS OF VIOLENCE.

Section 245 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by redesignating subsections (c) and (d) as subsections (d) and (e), respectively; and

(2) by inserting after subsection (b) the following:

`(c)(1) Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, willfully causes bodily injury to any person or, through the use of fire, a firearm, or an explosive device, attempts to cause bodily injury to any person, because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, or national origin of any person--

`(A) shall be imprisoned not more than 10 years, or fined in accordance with this title, or both; and

`(B) shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or fined in accordance with this title, or both if--

`(i) death results from the acts committed in violation of this paragraph; or

`(ii) the acts committed in violation of this paragraph include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill.

`(2)(A) Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, in any circumstance described in subparagraph (B), willfully causes bodily injury to any person or, through the use of fire, a firearm, or an explosive device, attempts to cause bodily injury to any person, because of the actual or perceived religion, gender, sexual orientation, or disability of any person--

`(i) shall be imprisoned not more than 10 years, or fined in accordance with this title, or both; and

`(ii) shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or fined in accordance with this title, or both, if--

`(I) death results from the acts committed in violation of this paragraph; or

`(II) the acts committed in violation of this paragraph include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill.

`(B) For purposes of subparagraph (A), the circumstances described in this subparagraph are that--

`(i) in connection with the offense, the defendant or the victim travels in interstate or foreign commerce, uses a facility or instrumentality of interstate or foreign commerce, or engages in any activity affecting interstate or foreign commerce; or

`(ii) the offense is in or affects interstate or foreign commerce.'.

(The whole law at: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/)

I don't like it because it attempts to federalize what should be a state's issue. Also, it's weak because it has the phrasing "attempts to cause bodily injury to any person" which is too ambiguous for me. That and I generally don't like manadatory minimums in general. Other than those, there's nothing I find objectionable.

It's not quite what the WND article made it out to be.

Please say NO to John "Bananas" McCain in 2008

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Well, I learned what penumbra means tonight, maybe I could be enlightened further, even though it's late. I would be the first to agree the NYT is an increasingly unreliable rag. So why is it the Bush administration's leak vehicle of choice? Why is it always the NYT that gets those anonymous briefings from "senior administration officials" that the others do not? Many examples of this, from "Miss Run Amok" Judy Miller and the Iraqi WMD, right up to recent weeks. Remember that Hadley memo dissing Maliki, right before the summit with Bush last year? Leaked by senior administration officials to the NYT. What's up with that?

Looks like the inmates have taken over some of the asylums.

The Italian Job
What good is NATO if allies indict Americans after a joint operation?
Lemme try!

No good?

...Why Nasr was captured rather than arrested in 2003 isn't clear. According to a July 2005 story in the New York Times, which cited unnamed current and former American officials, the CIA was concerned that Nasr was plotting to attack the U.S. Embassy in Rome. For whatever reason, the U.S. wanted him off the streets while the Italians weren't ready to arrest him. The CIA won't comment. The government of Silvio Berlusconi -- who was Prime Minister at the time -- denied any foreknowledge of the rendition.

No one seriously claims, however, that the CIA agents were in Italy without the explicit knowledge and participation of Italy's security services. This is the crucial point -- and explains why the indictments are a hostile act against the U.S. By long-established international legal practice, the official agents of one country operating in another with that state's permission are immune from prosecution. The status of forces agreement that governs U.S. troops stationed in Italy enshrines this principle at least for official conduct.

If the CIA agents did anything wrong, that's up to American authorities to decide. Mr. Spataro, an independent prosecutor, can indict as many Italians as he wants. His pursuit of U.S. government personnel, however, makes him a rogue. Aggravating the harm, Mr. Spataro cited the 25 agents by name, possibly putting their lives in danger. The trial in June, presumably in absentia, would likely do further damage by exposing intelligence-gathering techniques. Call it a tutorial for al Qaeda on how to avoid detection.

The appropriate response by Prime Minister Romano Prodi would have been a swift announcement that he would reject any extradition request from the court. Instead, Mr. Prodi merely hinted that he might do so before his government collapsed on Wednesday night. Having won the confidence vote last week to resume power, he has a second chance to finally fulfill his obligation to his U.S. treaty allies and reject extradition.

European politicians are more at fault here than any prosecutor. Since the 9/11 attacks in the U.S., many European leaders have been playing a double game, working with the U.S. to root out terrorist plots on the sly -- and saving countless lives -- while publicly condemning "American methods" in rhetoric that has fed rising anti-Americanism. It doesn't help that many Europeans embrace the preposterous legal notion of "universal jurisdiction," the idea that an ambitious prosecutor can indict and try anyone for an alleged crime committed anywhere in the world. ...

How far/close are the NYT offices in NYC from Ground Zero?

Maybe the NYT needs a reminder of what happened that day.

Of that is not enough perhaps THIS is.

#199 greenfoot

That is HR 254. That is the bill introduced by Jackson-Lee. I believe what WND is saying is that bill specifies the penalties for "hate crimes." This upcoming legislation is sponsored by Conyers, not Jackson-Lee, and expands the definition of what constitutes a hate crime.

#205 new_tommy

Ahh, thanks for the heads up. Got ahead of myself there. :)

Also from today's NYTimes...
An Iraqi Tribal Chief Opposes the Jihadists, and Prays

BAGHDAD, March 2 — The sheik stared at the cake that the hotel workers had brought up to his room as a gift. Across the red gelatinlike surface was written, “God protect you from the enemies and keep you for the Iraqi people.”

God is indeed his guardian, said the sheik, Abdul Sattar Buzaigh al-Rishawi. So were the three burly Iraqi men standing outside the door of his suite here in the Mansour Hotel, and the five others by the elevators at the end of the hall. They had walkie-talkies, Kalashnikov rifles and camouflage vests stuffed with ammunition clips.

The sheik needs as much protection as loyalty and prayers can bring, not to mention money. He is the public face of the Sunni Arab tribes in lawless Anbar Province who have turned against the Sunni jihadists of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, many of whom belong to other, sometimes more militant Iraqi tribes.

“I swear to God, if we have good weapons, if we have good vehicles, if we have good support, I can fight Al Qaeda all the way to Afghanistan,” he said recently as he sat smoking in a dark jacket and brown robes while meeting with a sheik from another Sunni tribe in his hotel room.

Sheik Abdul Sattar, a wiry 35-year-old with a thin goatee who comes from the provincial capital, Ramadi, is the most outspoken Sunni tribal figure in the country who is fighting, at least for now, on the side of the Shiite-led Iraqi government and the American military.

He has met three times with Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki since announcing his campaign in September, and there is talk that the sheik has received large amounts of money from the Iraqi government or the Americans. His face has been shown in anti-insurgent commercials on the government-run Iraqiya television network.

But Sheik Abdul Sattar, as he is known to Iraqis and American commanders, complains that he does not get nearly enough financial or military support. “We don’t have enough weapons, cars, uniforms,” he said.

Part of the sheik’s mission is rooted in the tribal law of revenge. His father was killed by Al Qaeda in 2004 for opposing its kind of fundamentalism. Two brothers were abducted and never heard from again, and a third brother was shot dead, he said. He has survived three car bombs outside the home he shares with his wife and five children.

Residents in parts of Anbar say the split in the Sunni insurgency is widening, with moderate tribal leaders and nationalist guerrillas pitted against fundamentalist warriors and rival tribes. That has led to a sharp increase in Sunni-on-Sunni violence across Anbar, especially in the past week, deepening the chaos of Iraq’s civil war. ...

Read the rest.

#206 greenfoot

No problem. The article is a bit confusing.

192 goodbye_natalie

I can see that happening. Great posts.

and from Theodores World

I especially point out the pics of people holding hands as they descend to the ground to their deaths rather than dying in the fire of 9/11.

A Poem from the above site:

For the WTC JumpersFor the WTC Jumpers

He came back,
This time for me.
On the 110th floor I was so close to God
I could almost grab his beard.
Never before has heaven been this close to hell.
I can feel its fire on the floors below
Raising ash and paper and smoke
Thick as Satan’s laughter.
At the window, shattered,
I look for salvation and he tempts me,
Dares me to jump,
Whispering a psalm in my ear
He spits as he speaks:
“He will bid his angels watch over you.
With their hands they will support you.”
I mumble “Amen,”
Close my eyes and sense the rush of air.
I cannot breathe until I finally feel
Those hands of angels
Hard as cement against my face.
......................By Doug Seubert

189 Killer Tomato 3/3/2007 10:58PM PST

#176 Highrise
I'd be happy with a government that actually understood and respected our Constitution.

Our public schools fail MISERABLY at this...but you can bet I will teach my kids this while homeschooling, godwilling.

If it wasn't for my father, I'd really not have learned about the consitution. Seriously. In school it was barely if ever mentioned.

British trace missile in copter strike to Iran
By Sean Rayment
LONDON SUNDAY TELEGRAPH
March 4, 2007

LONDON -- A missile that brought down a Royal Air Force Lynx helicopter and killed five British service members was smuggled into Iraq by Iranian agents, an official inquiry into the attack will reveal.
The Sunday Telegraph has learned that a British Army Board of Inquiry (BOI) into the events surrounding the May attack will state that the weapon, a shoulder-launched surface-to-air missile known as an SA14 Strella, came from Iran. ...

#208 new_tommy

According to truthtellers.org, Conyers new bill is "identical" to S. 1145 109th. Looks fairly similar to HR. 254 110th as well.

http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/conyersnewbill. html

Here's S.1145:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill= s109-1145

Here's a quote from Rev. Pike that made me a little uneasy (at the same truthtellers link, above):

Already, Jewish activists have abandoned H.R. 254 and speak of LLEHCPA as their desired bill. The powerful Jewish Council for Public Affairs (JCPA) instructs its many members and agencies to meet with House members in their home states during the present recess of Congress and pressure them to co-sponsor LLEHCPA when they return to Washington February 26.

In any case, the content added appears to be funding and practices language. It's seems to be a very similar bill with more "mechanics" shenanigans. I still don't like it, for the same reasons I said before.

...The execution video released Saturday first depicts the 18 men, some in Iraqi military uniforms, blindfolded, hands tied behind their backs and lined up in three rows before a screen. The men in the front row are kneeling. Armed masked men were seen pointing machine guns at the captives.

Two masked militants, with checkered scarves on their heads, then fire from handguns at close range into the backs of the men's heads, while a third militant carries a black banner ahead of them. As they are shot, the victims fall, head forward to the ground. The shooting is accompanied by chants of "Allahu Akbar," or "God is the Greatest."...

Iraq Terror Group Posts Tape of Killings

Whoa! From Anti-CAIR...

CAIR: Admits Officials Have Ties to Islamist Terrorism

Open Letter to the Editors of the New York Times:

You guys have slipped the rails completely. If the President had so completely abrogated your civil rights, you wouldn't even be allowed to sell plain birdcage liners; let alone ones with your scrawlings printed on them. In most other countries on the planet, you would have simply been thrown against a wall and disposed of.
The Patriot Act and most of the other actions you rail against are aimed at genuine enemies of the United States. Perhaps your anger arises from the fear that a Clinton-style Administration would use these laws against the likes of you. This is something that wouldn't happen with the current Administration, no matter the temptations. Your rag's continued publication is daily proof that even traitorous slugs have protected civil rights.
FOAD,
A.S.

/is there any chance at all that the Times editorial was a Purim prank?
//later

#213 greenfoot

Yeah. It is confusing. I'll have to wait until I hear and see more, I suppose. I doubt the bill will pass or be held up in a court of law if it does what WND claims it does in any case. I don't follow WND regularly and I've been hearing their coverage can be kind of questionable to say the least (kind of like DEBKA). Thanks.

#205 new_tommy

Bloody Hell, I could have gone all night without hearing any thing about the barking moonbat that is known as Shelia uh Jackson uh Lee. She used to be my rep......I moved.

I would like to address... America’s global reputation

Who did we loose are reputation to?

50 million men, women and children that are now free?

Someone tell me who in the hell we lost are reputation to!

sorry everyone for my rants about 9/11, seeing what the NYT does makes me angry, what about the rights of the 3 thousand that died that day? what about it NYT?

Someone tell me who in the hell we lost are reputation to!

The French (?)

/yawn

#198 song_and_dance_man 3/3/2007 11:11PM PST

Open and reported knowledge are clearly the only safe sources to use. Revealing or using insider 'anything', like classified information, is always bad.

A crystal ball, which I use to predict the future, is risky.

Please pardon my cavalier attitude and flip answer; I do not, and did not, mean to insult you or any of the other posters on this board.

But poking the writers of the article (the subject of this thread), where their power is forced to hear (actually read) or ignore the (written) truth (and do not control the power that can delete such posts, and therefore have the choice to either respond on this level playing field, or remain silent, much like their readers), is simply too much fun to pass by.

And now I’m curious; are you affiliated with, or do you represent, the NYT in any way?

RE two threads down - the king of SA a theocrat ? I don't think so.

Is it France?

Why did we loose our reputation?

Because we refuse to be victims? (Moonbats love victims)

Right after 9/11 everyone loved us... blah blah blah.

The United States of America is not your victim.

We will defend free people.

Quit making excuses for slavery.

If you want to go back to the time when everyone loved us right after 9/11., consider yourself an appeaser.

Grow up.

The NYT stinks to high heaven.

I see a mixture of Walter Duranty's “There is no starvation under Stalin” and Al Dinnerjacket’s Taqqyia.

It looks like the NYT can be bought and sold like cattle at an auction - and it stinks.

freedomplow,

I'm pretty old, you know, and maybe the old memory is going, but I cannot recall a time in my lifetime when the U.S. was well loved by the rest of the world. I think it's human nature to be at least a little - or maybe a lot - jealous of people who have it so good.

I do remember an interview some newspaper did many years ago, well before 9/11. The woman (in some backwoods country) was complaining that the U.S. did this (bad!), that (really bad!) and the other (horrible!). At the end of the interview she was casually asked if she had the chance to emigrate to the U.S. would she? "Absolutely!"

:-)

For the NYT to assert that we've "lost our reputation" - as though this is a new phenomenum (sp) that must be addressed - is at best disingenuous.

littleoldlady

I lost my reputation...

Where can I go?

I know, the NYT.

Why is their editorial more important than yours?

Why is their editorial more important than mine?

NYT... It's over.

A car bomb went off...

NYT credibility still not secure.

NYT has not advanced the cause of free people...

1. Ban Torture, Really

It is still largely up to the president to decide what constitutes torture and abuse for the purpose of prosecuting anyone who breaks the rules.

Who should decide what is 'torture' the prisoners?
Ladies panties on head, torture?

2. Ban Extraordinary Rendition

This is the odious practice of abducting foreign citizens and secretly flying them to countries where everyone knows they will be tortured. It is already illegal to send a prisoner to a country if there is reason to believe he will be tortured.

Why do we need extraordinary rendition if the US already tortures?
If we don't secretly fly them to countries, can we just call it: ordinary rendition?

freedomplow,

Why is their editorial more important than yours?

Why is their editorial more important than mine?

NYT... It's over.

Now there's the heart of the matter, right there.

I have a friend who constantly refers to the NYT as THE source for "the truth". Evidently she worked there for a few minutes about 30 years ago ;-) and in her mind, it is - and forever will be - the primary news source in the country. Regardless of how many articles I show her (CAMERA comes to mind) detailing the bias and lies that come out of the NYT, I cannot budge her from her position.

It's not over for everybody. Unfortunately.

HOWEVER, all is not lost!

Two days ago the same friend discovered the term "Londonistan" for the first time. I directed her to Melanie Phillips' website, and whodathunkit? Melanie has a new best friend!

We have a lot of work to do, even if it is one mind at a time...

220- Pamela

Americans are never innocent (according to the NYTimes) unless they are actually guilty of something....like death row inmates. They have their heads planted firmly up their asses. No wonder they stink.

tap, tap tap!

230 littleoldlady 'We have a lot of work to do, even if it is one mind at a time...'
------------------------------
Many of us are doing that...certainly Charles and other bloggers. BUT-- there are always some who protest. Look what happened recently-- Charles found a great way to extend the reach of his work--and some people complained. But, to his credit, he is persiting in working on the Digg situation..I am convinced it is a great way to reach a whole new audience.

kristina37,

I agree with you.

/nobody said it was going to be easy! :-)

Gaack.

Morning, dead thread.

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------------------->
Help yourselves!

Well, I anticipate difficulty with other people, but I am amazed at the resistance here to what Charles is doing with Digg.

# 237

Remember when the digg and del.icio.us link buttons first went up ? It was months ago. A bit of discussion, absolutely no objections that I can recall. But then, nobody thought they were The Second Coming, either.

BTW, whatever happened to del.icio.us ? Why isn't it as important ?

Its not the second coming... nor is it totally unimportant. I think what happened was that, at first, there wasn't much discussion...then, as Charles himself learned more about Digg, he started posting thing& about it...and that brought it to the fore.

No - the discovery that the whole thing was rigged and crooked (what a schocka !) is what brought it to the fore. That's been in the last few weeks.

Imagine - an internet opinion site that is biased and/or rigged. Almost impossible to believe, yes ?

BTW, whatever happened to del.icio.us ? Why isn't it as important ?
-------------------
I dont know. Sometimes it pays to learn how to use one at a time--- not so much learn how to use it, but rather learn how to use it effectively. Because that's what its all about-- communication.
Communicating ideas.

Or-- maybe Charles investigated a few and decided Digg would be either the most effective, or the easist for users. I dont know

The del.icio.us link is still there, plus now there's newsvine and reddit.

digg paid me back for defending it (was that yesterday?) by making me totally unable to access LGF via AOL.

Popup: "Do you wish to debug?"

Me: Oh, okay. I'll debug

Microsoft Script Editor: "digg software is the problem, but I'm not going to tell you how to fix it"

/somebody help me!

I jut checked-- there are now 4 such services listed at the end of each LGF artice-- Digg plus
newsvine | reddit | del.icio.us

I've been spending a lot of time on Digg..in a short time I guess I will pend less time there and learn about one of the others.

littleoldlady

Not a clue here.

I have no idea what that problem is...what ervice are you using now to access LGF

Explorer. It works okay, but I'm used to accessing from AOL.

I could use Firefox, too, except the fonts are screwy and give me a headache after a while.

I dont know, maybe ask that question again here when there are more people online, there should be someone who would know.

I've never used Firefox, but most people say they like it better than Internet Explorer. There may be a way to adjust the way Firefox diplays fonts-- probably on a 'Tools' menu-- but I dont know.

kristina37,

There may be a way to adjust the way Firefox diplays fonts-- probably on a 'Tools' menu-- but I dont know.

If it's there, I can't find it.

/and if I do find it, I'm not likely to know how to work it anyway.
//techno-challenged to the max

The NYT is going down the tubes and they still don't understand why.. This proves it.. THis proves they are a religious cult.. A fanatic cult of the far left wing loonies. They have to be in order to keep spitting out this kind of nonsense that has lost them a lot of money.

On another note: Everyone is mad at Coulter for 'referring' not calling, Edwards a faggot.. That is headline news for crying out loud and the dems are demanding everyone forsakes her.. (THIS PROVED HER POINT BY THE WAY!)..

o.k. THEN IT IS O.K. FOR BILL MAHER TO WISH THE ASSASINATION ATTEMPT ON CHENEY WORKED? THAT IS O.K., BUT WHAT ANN SAID ISN'T? WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE!

29 minutes between comments - slow even for a Sunday.

And no help here, as it's time to go to work.

What is worse, INDIRECTLY calling someone a faggot, or DIRECTLY stating you wish our vice president was assasinated.
SOrry, but this blatant hypocrisy by the left is now getting on my LAST nerve.

'Mornin, all !

Don't blame me, I voted NYT for Idiotarian of the Year.

I'd love to know, what's the difference between RICO and the Patriot Act the moonbats are braying about non-stop?

#246 littleoldlady 3/4/2007 02:25AM PST

Explorer. It works okay, but I'm used to accessing from AOL.

I could use Firefox, too, except the fonts are screwy and give me a headache after a while.

What do you mean the fonts are screwy, Littleoldlady? Firefox only displays the font dictated by the page you are one, like all browsers.

Mac or PC?
Last update you did?
What happens with the fonts?

/ Arriving late at this thread.

BLECHT! This kind of moonbat journalism reeks.

#237 kristina37 3/4/2007 02:03AM PST

Well, I anticipate difficulty with other people, but I am amazed at the resistance here to what Charles is doing with Digg.

One of the problems with Digg - and the reason many of us do not join - is that you must register in order to Digg. The fewer places I register the better. Besides, I'm just not into that juvenile "lets vote on it" crap.

Imagine the Frisco losers in zombie's pictures...with keyboards.

That's Digg.

#226 littleoldlady 3/4/2007 12:37AM PST

freedomplow,

I'm pretty old, you know, and maybe the old memory is going, but I cannot recall a time in my lifetime when the U.S. was well loved by the rest of the world. I think it's human nature to be at least a little - or maybe a lot - jealous of people who have it so good.

I was just thinking the same exact thing myself littleoldlady. Let's see, I remember -

upstart Americans
ugly Americans
naive Americans
and a thousand or so other epithets

I remember a time when American tourists were so sneered at and denigrated behind their backs (while the locals were rushing for that almighty dollar I might add) that had any of them known what the locals were saying they would have been outraged.

But I don't remember a single time when we have had any "reputation" to lose. For that matter, I just finished reading a book about Rudyard Kipling's years living here in VT - and we did not have any "reputation" to lose then either. Kipling despised the US and made it well known throughout the world.

galloping granny,

What do you mean the fonts are screwy, Littleoldlady?

I mean they are unclear, semi-pixelated, hard to read. I've tried changing it to everything Charles offers on LGF, but to no avail.

BTW, I've been working with fonts for 30+ years (back so far that we called them "typefaces") and I've never seen Futura as a serif.

If we followed everything, or anything, the NYT said, we wouldn't be here. Remember, if you are reading this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in english, thank a soldier...including those who torture so we don't have to be tortured ourselves.

Good Morning Dead Threaders!

War with Syria on the horizon? Bet on it! (Including my prediction)

I'm semi-pixelated and hard to read too.
Halp me Jon Cary!

Ready for war

There may not yet be gas masks in the street in Tel Aviv but no one should underestimate Israel's determination to prevent a nuclear Iran

Down on the seafront in Tel Aviv, where crowds of young Israelis are to be found taking advantage of the unseasonably warm spring sunshine this weekend, it is hard to imagine that Israel is confronting what is arguably the gravest threat to its survival since it emerged from the ashes of the Holocaust 59 years ago.

The apocalyptic rantings of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the menace posed by the ayatollahs' outlawed nuclear programme are a million miles from the minds of the couples lounging in the sun sipping cold beers, or engaged in vigorously competitive games of beach volleyball.

Apart from the occasional noisy interruption as a patrol of Cobra military helicopters passes overhead on its way to Gaza, or the sullen presence of the naval patrol vessels anchored offshore on the lookout for waterborne suicide bombers, these carefree souls seem blissfully unaware of the storm clouds of war gathering over the political horizon.

"We have nothing to fear from the Iranians," Amiram Levi told me. "If they become too much of a threat we can deal with them just as we dealt with the Iraqis when they tried to build a nuclear bomb."

[CHOP]

#259 littleoldlady 3/4/2007 04:01AM PST

galloping granny,

What do you mean the fonts are screwy, Littleoldlady?

I mean they are unclear, semi-pixelated, hard to read. I've tried changing it to everything Charles offers on LGF, but to no avail.

BTW, I've been working with fonts for 30+ years (back so far that we called them "typefaces") and I've never seen Futura as a serif.

Ah, I remember "typefaces" all too well - and justifying them. The source on mine shows the font to be Verdana. It is not unclear, semi-pixelated or hard to read, though I would be a tad happier if it was a 12 instead of an 11 for my old eyes. No matter, I just move a little farther back from the screen.

Have you tried clearing your cache? (Tools/Options)

Taliban boasts of 1000 suicide bombers

The Taliban said yesterday it had sent 1000 suicide bombers to northern Afghanistan, a day after a suicide blast targeted US Vice President Dick Cheney.

The United States and Nato nations, led by Britain, are pouring in troops to battle a spring offensive and to try to crush the insurgents in what analysts say is a crunch year for both sides after the bloodiest 12 months since the Taliban fell in 2001.

At least 23 people, including an American soldier, died in Tuesday's suicide car bombing at the US base in Bagram.

"We reacted in a very short span of time to attack the base," said Taliban commander Mullah Hayatullah Khan from a secret location.

"They would have launched a major guerrilla attack on the base as the Taliban are prepared for any sacrifice to kill such an important person and a big infidel."

[CHOP]

OOOOOoooooo, Big Infidel

/Don't F*ck with the Big Dick

{BabbaZee!}

Yes, it did occur to me that the semi-pixelation problem might be mine, and not Firefox's.

/could be worse. I could be wholly-pixelated. ;-)

{Lil'oleLAY-Deeee-HOOOOooooooo}

Oh yes, and it is time to close the Guantánamo camp. It is a despicable symbol of the abuses committed by this administration (with Congress’s complicity) in the name of fighting terrorism

And let all the peace loving killer's go...oh yeah and give them their weapons and ammo back...and could you have the G.I."s put targets on their back's....I mean it's only fair Mr President.

Doesn't this sound suspicious to you? A setpiece ambush complete with its own anti-American insta-protesters?

AP: Ambush on U.S. Convoy leaves 16 dead

I'll be fisking the report momentarily.

Moon turns red over Britain

ummm...............

hmmmm...

264 BabbaZee ....

.Afghanistan: 16 killed, 25 hurt by suicide bomber
By ASSOCIATED PRESS

A "complex" ambush involving a suicide car bomb and militant gunfire killed 16 Afghan civilians and wounded 25 people during an attack on a coalition convoy in eastern Afghanistan on Sunday, officials said.

The suicide bomber hit the American convoy with an explosives-packed minivan, said Noor Agha Zawok, the spokesman for the governor of Nangarhar province.

Militants then fired gunfire from several directions and coalition forces returned fire, the US military said.

Hundreds of Afghans gathered to protest the violence, blocking the road and throwing rocks at police, with some demonstrators shouting "Death to America! Death to Karzai," a reference to President Hamid Karzai

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