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CAIR Promoting Carter's Book in US Libraries

Mon, Mar 5, 2007 at 7:52:26 pm PST

Jimmy Carter’s disgraceful, deceptive anti-Israel book, which led to mass resignations from the Carter Center and was denounced by even the most left-wing newspapers (New York Times, I’m looking at you), is being pushed into the libraries of the United States by our friends at the Saudi-funded front group for the Muslim Brotherhood, the Council on American Islamic Relations.

An LGF reader under deep cover forwarded the following scan of CAIR’s promotional letter for Carter’s book.

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1 meMarc  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 5:54:13pm

I want to puke.

2 RTLM  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 5:54:51pm

Toilet fodder

3 Egfrow  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 5:55:15pm

Boy! That brave endorsing signature at the bottom adds lot's of weight to this letter.

4 nextstopmars  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 5:56:33pm

Can we flush that book down the toilet?

5 The Other Les  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 5:57:54pm

The thing is that we've become so used to seeing the Fnords that we no longer have the reflexive response that we used to have.

6 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 5:58:08pm

Charming..

7 RTLM  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 5:58:09pm
...in the spirit of mutual understanding and respect.

I think we already tried that.

8 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 5:58:13pm

Does Jimmy make Rosalyn wear a burqua around the Carter compound?

And what ever happened to Amy?
Did he sell her to a Saudi sheik?
She seems to have fallen off the earth.

9 jordash1212  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 5:58:20pm

Why don't they add the fact that Saudi Arabia donates millions of dollars to his foundation? That ought to make a nice logical argument as to why Carter says what he says.

10 Ronnie Schreiber  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:00:35pm

Libraries are a part of the information war that is often ignored. Between special interest groups promoting biased books and activists stealing books that they hate, what ends up in your library has more to do with political agendas than with information. Just try to find a copy of Michael Fumento's Myth of Heterosexual AIDS or the $cientology expose, A Piece Of Blue Sky, at a public library. The books may be in the card catalog, and you can reserve them, but they never get returned so you can withdraw them because someone has either stolen them or dumped them in a trash bin at the library.

11 CowardKerry  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:00:38pm

Yada Yada Yada, hey Cair.....go choke yourself.

12 DonkeyJawz  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:01:23pm

Ahhh, bathroom fare. They should replace the Sears Roebuck catalogue with this in the outhouse.

13 ibrodsky  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:01:59pm

It's hard to pick between CAIR and Dhimmi Carter, but I believe the former is the most evil of the two.

14 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:02:18pm

CAIR, Americas largest islamic civil liberties group has 32 offices and lots of destructive weapons and will not hesitate to use them if you don't follow our suggestions demands.

Well I couldn't cut and paste the text so I used poetic liscense.

/we all know CAIR is a pieceful group

15 illegal upchuck  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:04:12pm

So.

Does this put Dhimmi's book on par with the Koran? Untouchable from a reverence point of view?

Or can we go ahead and defile this one with barbecue and dog dinkle?

16 ibrodsky  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:04:47pm

#4 nextstopmars 3/5/2007 07:56PM PST

Can we flush that book down the toilet?

That would be assaulting an innocent toilet.

But if you can do it while a CAIR spokesNazi is holding it close to his chest, go for it.

17 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:04:56pm

#14 Abu Bin Can't spell
liscense? D'oh!

18 Geepers  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:05:26pm

CowardKerry (#11),

Yada Yada Yada, hey Cair.....go choke yourself.

Sadly they're not going to do that.

In fact they're going to keep on promoting their cause with a multi-million dollar budget and law suits and base intimidation.

19 Sam I Am  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:05:50pm

Dhimmi Carter is the worst president ever.

I wish he would just go to Darfur and build those people some houses.

Then he can go to Saudi Arabia and tell them all about the good news of Jesus Christ.

Then we can see how long it will take before he is either cained or killed (in either area)

What a loser...

20 Charles  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:07:45pm

Wow, this post was buried in record time at Digg.

Interesting.

21 Martel  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:07:53pm

Dear Cair,

Thank you for your contribution, but our bathrooms are stocked with a two-ply toilet paper that is rather easy on the skin. As such, the pages you sent us are altogether unusable for the only purpose for which we would ever put this book to use.

Thanks anyway,

Library.

22 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:08:18pm

It would really suck if people stole that book from public libaries

23 Canadian Infidel  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:08:21pm

I'm still waiting for the Muslim outrage from the Korans that must have been blown up this morning at the bookstores in Iraq.

24 dentate  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:08:33pm

One would assume that if the library takes this up, the book would be imprinted with a notation that it was donated by CAIR. That should immediately raise the suspicion of anyone believing this to be a "fair" treatment.

25 Egfrow  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:08:40pm

Digg is looking for a new Systems Engineer any Lizards need a new job.

26 kateca  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:09:26pm

Maybe CAIR will make Jimmy an Honorary Member.

It's official now: Jimmy Carter is one of them

27 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:09:42pm

I'm not advocating such an action, mind you. I am merely making an observation.

28 ibrodsky  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:09:52pm

We need to elect a president with the wisdom and testicular fortitude to shut down CAIR using just as much force as Janet Jackboot Reno used in Waco and against Elian Gonzales.

29 Sam I Am  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:10:12pm

#20 Charles

I have decided to stop going to digg because of all the shananagins that go on there...

plus the level of ignorance and stupidity and groupthink is just amazing.

I bet Stalin would have loved to have a tool like digg in support of TASS & Pravda.

30 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:10:54pm
31 DesertSage  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:11:25pm

I felt sorry for Carter back in '79 when the Iranians were burning him in effigy, now I think they were on to something.

32 blackpajamas  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:13:24pm

Carter's anti-semitism is no different that Al Gore's climate hysteria.

Both buffoons would have us believe that consensus is scientific method and that theories are made true by majority vote.

In Gore's case, if one examines the United Nations IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) report, one will find that it relies primarily on the polling of scientists for its conclusions.

Carter's pathology just happens to use civil liberties group think in place of the scientific herd.

33 eLoser  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:15:06pm

#20 charles

ummm, i may have inadvertently given just cause to it, as you had just slapped it up & there were no diggs (but 2 comments here), so it's justly a repeat.

honest mistake. frick!

34 WrathofG-d  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:15:36pm

CAIR: Helping educate America's future so Israel doesn't have one.

35 So?  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:16:06pm

Let's keeping sucking Saudi oil.
Let's keep the fires burning.


/our friends the sodding saudis

36 mattm  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:16:13pm

If I was in charge of the library I would wrap it in Bacon and send it back.

37 Highrise  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:16:17pm

#4 nextstopmars 3/5/2007 07:56PM PST

Can we flush that book down the toilet?

/sandy berger on

No but I heard that you can rip out the pages and put them down your pants and you won't get into trouble.

/sandy berger off

38 Highrise  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:16:34pm

er burger..not berger.

39 Mullah Atari  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:18:11pm

Has Carter converted to Islam yet? Maybe I missed a headline.

40 DesertSage  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:18:51pm

Highrise....

That's Burgler, not Burger.

41 So?  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:19:32pm

Mo Karterh Mohamed


#39

yeah you missed it

42 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:19:32pm

38 Highrise

I like "Bugger."

43 looking closely  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:19:53pm

Did they pay for the book to begin with?

44 DonkeyJawz  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:19:54pm

DesertSeige stole my post.

45 DonkeyJawz  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:20:28pm

Err, Sage.. Sorry, trying to keep up with the lounge simultaneously.

46 Carolyn  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:20:59pm

Carter's friends are revealing, are they not?

47 ratherdashing  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:21:59pm

Donate 'em if you got 'em.

We can play that game as well. Are there any extra copies of books from Robert Spencer, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Irshad Manji, or Brigitte Gabriel that Lizards would like to donate to their local library?

48 Peter Verkooijen  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:23:41pm

That letter is pure forked-tongue type evil. Ugh.

49 SuperdaveTWC  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:24:18pm

The following phrase tells us all we need to know:

"...keeping an open mind when considering the Middle East conflict."

In the eyes of CAIR, there is only one "Middle East conflict" (why 'conflict' is not capitalized is odd).

Hey, the Kurds, the Shia, the Sunni, the "crusaders" (i.e. the Coalition Forces in Iraq and other nearby countries) are not part of the "Middle East conflict." CAIR seems only to care about the Joos!

In other words, the fact that Jews live in the ME causes conflict.

In the US we usually call this antisemitism, racism, bigotry, and even Naziism.

White European males who say such racist things are ostracized.

Why does CAIR get a free pass?

50 So?  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:24:36pm

OT - VERY STRANGE

I just did a search of an lgf member to see if they had posted anything in the last week and this is what turned up in the search. It wasn't even the name I was searching for. Charles what gives?

Identity Theft at Digg

#78 RadicalRon 3/1/2007 9:44:29 AM
Thanks to . . . you know . . . that f*c*i*g Jew-lover, Charles Johnson, my right of freedom of expression has been stolen . . . and . . .and . . . you know . . . and . . . and . . . those little ...

51 Confuzed  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:25:57pm
Please find enclosed a complimentary copy of the hot-seller in Arabic speaking lands, Mein Kampf. As you most certainly are aware, in is THE top seller in the secular society of Turkey. Click here to see why it's such a best seller in Arabic lands.
52 Mullah Atari  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:27:52pm

#43 looking closely

Did they pay for the book to begin with?

Who are you kidding? They probably wrote it.

53 William  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:29:26pm

The "Israeli-Palestinian question"?

No doubt a recycling of the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question" (German: "Endlösung der Judenfrage").
 

54 loflyer  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:29:49pm

I use the public library frequently, and have no problem with their fictional books showcased, but I have nearly given up on the non-fictional books they place in the new release category. 10 liberal viewpoints for every Conservative published. I have not determined whether it is due to leftist librarians or if this is the only stuff being published nowadays. Thanks Charles for this blog, many would be clueless without you.

55 Geepers  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:31:52pm

So? (#50),

I suspect RadicalRon was speaking in the voice of one of the banned diggers.

56 Geepers  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:34:07pm

ratherdashing (#47),

Good point. Good plan.

57 Harrisment  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:36:00pm

At the very top of the letter it says:
In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

So is that supposed to be Allah, or Ar-Rahman, or...

Eh, so many rock deities, sometimes I get confused. Maybe CAIR can educate me about Islam's polytheistic roots...

/still snickering about that compassion and mercy

58 blackwater man  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:42:03pm

Please lock up Murtha and Carter in the same padded room, where they can babble at each other, and nod approvement from time to time.

Murtha: Jimmy, You know I was once a ma, ma .....Marine thing, I think, I know I once wore a uniform, but I really don't remember the Country .

Carter: I served too, but I tried to be the worst President of the USA, and at least I accomplished my goal! Hey John, you still awake?

Murtha: what's your name again?

Jimmy: I served too, but I tried to be,,,,, sorry don't remember, I know it had something to do with a guy that had the game figured out and that I also found attractive,,, Ara-something. Hey John you wanna play fish?

Murtha: Is it time for a breakfast? Or is it lunch time? Or,, (dribble falls down).

59 huckfunn  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:44:03pm

Djhimmi CAIRter has truly gone to the dark side. May the farce be with him.

60 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:44:11pm

57 Harrisment

Top Rahman?

61 Flying Dutchman  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:49:56pm

OT - Baby boom in Israel after last summer war against hezbollah :
In Swiss French

The source is ats / romandie.com (Swiss news)
**************
Partial translation :
Jerusalem - The number of pregnant womens at their fifth, sixth or seventh month has increased 35% above regular numbers following last summer war.

"You (hezbollah) tried to kill us in large numbers, you failed ! And look, we are alive !"

The same happened after the six days war (1967) when a 4 years long lasting baby-boom occurred. The same phenomenon occurred after the 1973 war against egypt / syria.
**************

If Israel goes at war more often against those who want to kill them they may win the demographic war against Israeli arabs !

62 Spiderlance  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:50:11pm

I hope when I'm old and about to die that I don't bring shame onto my name like this old beat up coot.

63 RadicalRon  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:50:24pm

#50 So?

If you're wondering about the wording of the comment, it is satire, just as the title and intro for this is.

As for why that came up when you were looking for someone else, beats the hell out of me!

64 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:50:52pm

I still can't figure out how we survived Carter without being taken over by the Soviets. I mean, it wasn't like he wasn't trying.
I guess he even screwed that up

65 SilverStar830  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:52:01pm

Dispicable of CAIR and those even considering lending an ear to CAIR's pitch, but not the least bit surprising.

/dugg like a snug bug in a rug

66 mjazzguitar  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:52:42pm

OT- Hayan Irsi Ali is now on Laura Ingram's radio program.

67 dead sea squirrel  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:53:14pm

I can't quite make out what is says at the bottom. Something like, "That's a nice little library you've got there. Be a shame if anything happened to it." But I can't be sure.

68 Jack Reacher  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:53:21pm
As you may know, President Carter is an experienced international peacemaker...

Yep, he sure left a peaceful world behind him. Not.

...winning the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002.

Arafat won that "prize." 'Nuff said.

(CAIR's) mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam...

Is that a typo? I think they mean to write "enhance the obfuscation of Islam..."

69 DesertSage  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:56:26pm

#66 mjazzguitar

Who's Hayan Irsi Ali?

70 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:57:20pm

10 Ronnie Schreiber

Libraries are a part of the information war that is often ignored. Between special interest groups promoting biased books and activists stealing books that they hate, what ends up in your library has more to do with political agendas than with information. Just try to find a copy of Michael Fumento's Myth of Heterosexual AIDS or the $cientology expose, A Piece Of Blue Sky, at a public library. The books may be in the card catalog, and you can reserve them, but they never get returned so you can withdraw them because someone has either stolen them or dumped them in a trash bin at the library.

How sadly true, as I discovered some nasty reading material recently at my local library- a booklet titled Islam Will Conquor All Other Religions and American Power Will Diminish. I couldn't believe it, but that's the library for you.

24 dentate

One would assume that if the library takes this up, the book would be imprinted with a notation that it was donated by CAIR. That should immediately raise the suspicion of anyone believing this to be a "fair" treatment.

This is also how my local library works, so I'll be on the lookout and report back if the donation seal is indeed inside this nasty little book.

71 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:58:47pm

OT:

I posted this in another thread this morning and thought I would post it again tonite.

In Pakistan, ten thousand madrassahs prepare two million martyrs a year. On top of that, 198,166 primary, middle and secondary schools are working hard at manufacturing 27 million closet martyrs. As if that wasn't enough, the martial state of the Islamic Republic steps in and puts on display its destructive nuclear potential -- Chagai and replicas of missiles -- on all major street intersections. Walk into any classroom of any government-run school and ninety-five per cent of what's on display is martyrs (with the exception of Jinnah, Iqbal and Sir Syed). What we have thus managed to create is an ideal 'culture of death'; a whole society of death worshippers.

Here's the official curriculum document for classes K-V, National Bureau of Curriculum and Textbooks, Federal Ministry of Education, Government of Pakistan (1995): "At the completion of Class-V, the child should be able to: Make speeches on jihad and shahadat; India's evil designs against Pakistan; acknowledge and identify forces that may be working against Pakistan [pg 154]." The document further instructs teachers: "To judge their spirits while making speeches on jihad….." Another prescribed 'learning outcome' is to "recognise the importance of jihad in every sphere of life." Textbooks prescribed by the Punjab Textbook Board eulogise "jihad and shahadat" and routinely urge students to "become mujahids and martyrs". Middle school textbooks have long been urging children to be "willing to die as martyrs for Islam."

Someone really intelligent once said that the real tragedy of Islam is that "people who talk about Islam the most understand it the least." Our madressahs have been teaching our children death and destruction. Islam is all about life and construction. Our religious leaders are harsh and inflexible. Islam is pleasant and accommodating. Our schools give lessons on hate and hostility. Islam is all about love and friendship. They teach us insanity and irrationality. Islam is all about wisdom and reason. We have been spreading intolerance and ignorance. Islam is all about tolerance and enlightenment. We glorify death and demean intellectual struggle. Islam is all about intellectual struggle and glorification of life.

Schools and madrassahs determine what a nation is destined to become in the future. For us, that future is here because we have long let our madressahs and schools churn out brigades of death worshippers. Glamorisation of death -- not life -- and long years of death worshipping degenerate into suicide bombings. To be certain, suicide bombings are getting us nowhere; Muslims are killing Muslims. Our religion gives us al-jihad al-akbar, the greater jihad, the most powerful of instruments to beat non-Muslims through excellence in education, knowledge, schools, universities, libraries, women emancipation, creation and innovation. We have picked up al-jihad al-asghar, the lesser jihad, even before we gave a chance to al-jihad al-akbar.

We will have our hands full when these brainwashed kids reach splodeydope age.

72 Geepers  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 6:59:59pm

Another excellent piece of work by Kerplunk

10 Questions for Muslims

1. Why is it Oil or Nothing? The combined annual GDP of the world's Muslim majority countries is under $2 trillion. That's less than 20% of the USA even though Muslims outnumber Americans by about four to one. Their GDP is about the same as that of Germany. The GDP of the major oil rich nations of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait and Qatar combined is roughly equal to Thailand's $430 billion. Remove oil and gas from the Gulf states' exports and their export figure is below that well known exporting giant...Finland. What else do you do besides oil?

10. What is it with the cartoons, anyway? Why did you go crazy in February 2006 over cartoons published in September 2005? Do you people have no sense of humour? Do you not understand the irony of violence for such a trivial matter? Do you not understand the concept of freedom of expression even if you aren't allowed to practice it in your own countries? Are you so brainwashed that you don't understand the self-harm you inflict by your over reaction?

AS they say: Read the whole thing.

73 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:01:57pm
74 mjazzguitar  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:02:30pm

#64 hous bin pharteen 3/5/2007 08:50PM PST


I still can't figure out how we survived Carter without being taken over by the Soviets. I mean, it wasn't like he wasn't trying.
I guess he even screwed that

up I always thought it was kind of funny that the day after Reagan got elected the hostage crisis was over and the Iranians came to an agreement with us.

75 American Soldier  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:04:23pm

Note to Mr. Carter-
A man is known by the company he keeps- as well as those he chooses to make enemies. You're looking worse every day.
/Presidential pension not enough to keep you in Depends?

76 mich-again  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:05:06pm

Interesting... CAIR's website which is updated every day makes absolutely no mention of any sort of public campaign to get libraries to stock Carter's book. (However, their website does promote a very favorable review. link ) So there are two distinct possible explanations. 1) The letter is either a complete hoax forged on CAIR letterhead or 2) The letter is authentic and it exposes a secret CAIR campaign to promote their agenda of radical Islam beneath the radar of the blogosphere where it would have been immediately exposed and humiliated, much like the Carter book was. Ha. Now the mainstream jihadis like Ibrahim Hooper are using the internet for propaganda purposes and the snail mail for the real jihad. whodathunkit!

Ibe you dumbass. you can't win. we're everywhere.

77 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:09:00pm

72 Geepers

Good read.

7. Why are your countries not free? According to Freedom House of the world's majority Muslim nations only Mali is free. One country from around 50! 60% are not free and 38% are partly free. Why do Muslim nations account for the majority of 'not free' nations? Of the 10 worst of the worst, 7 are Islamic states. Why is this? Are you born to be in chains?

Yes- the hand they hold is the hand that holds them down.

78 Dad 2 4  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:09:37pm

#69 DesertSage

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

79 WrathofG-d  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:10:54pm

74 Mjazzguitar:

Maybe he was trying to get us taken over by the Soviets but failed.

80 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:12:21pm

73 song_and_dance_man

It does look like a trailer!

81 Cartman  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:14:23pm

#76 mich-again

mainstream jihadis like Ibrahim Hooper

That needs to be repeated...over and over, again.

82 American Soldier  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:14:49pm

Have to crash, need to be at work in a few hours.
Later, all. Hold the fort......

83 Cartman  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:17:25pm

Keep fightin' the good fight, AS. Take care...

84 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:17:53pm
unquestionably superlative

I chuckle every time I refresh the page and see that.

85 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:18:13pm

Protesting Berry and Carter

The books by Steve Berry and Jimmy Carter have been discussed at some lenght here. Both are anti-semetic Jew hating screed.

But what do you do about them? You can't deface the books or burn them: sinking to the levels of our enemies is never the answer. So what do you do? You can't stay silent to the toxic hatred and lies that spew off of every letter and page. Action is most definitely called for.

The answer is the most American of responses: intelligent protest!

Rather than deface the books, we respond to them by the placing warning labels they should have within the pages of the books themselves on the shelves they infest:

Warning: This book contains toxic levels of anti-semetism and bigotry. This book contains dangerous blatant falsehoods and misrepresentations that have been used against the Jewish people for centuries.

You should not harm this book in any way but you should not buy it either. You should also make up your own warning and insert it into any copy of this book you encounter.


There are enough people on this site that we can blanket every bookstore in America. then we go for the libraries. Feel free to write your own warning labels. Cox and Forkum, if you wish to provide appropriate artwork for the protest, please do.

Make sure that any paper you insert is dry and will not smudge the book in any way. be sure to use paper that does not stick out and puch your protest paper into the binding so it does not shake out by accident.

Alternative inserts:

The Worst President of the 20th Century! Now ith 80% more anti-semetism!

Adoph Hitler agrees with this author about the Jews!

"To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed…" George Orwell, 1984.

86 pegcity  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:24:42pm

just got off the phone at work with someone name shadhid.

Creepy

87 Shredstar  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:24:57pm

The CAIR logo reminds me of the OPEC logo.

88 got milk?  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:29:13pm
89 George guy  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:30:49pm

This is a dangerous act of Judaeophobia. I demand that all library staff and CAIR officials take sensitivity training to ameliorate Judaeophobic behavior.

90 SaneInMN  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:30:57pm

51 Confuzed...

Mein Kampf. As you most certainly are aware, in is THE top seller in the secular society of Turkey

Turkey, our "...closest muslim ally"...according to Jim Geraghty, over at National Review Online.

Oh, btw, according to Jim, demanding that Turkey recognize the Armenian genocide that the Turks perpetrated is not in our best interests.

[Link: hillaryspot.nationalreview.com...]

Look, I understand commemorating the genocide and pointing the finger at Turkey is a very high priority to Armenian-Americans. But in terms of vital U.S. interests, fighting the battle over the correct interpretation of events of nearly a century ago is about 10,345th on the list. Our tasks in Iraq, and dealing with Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and fighting extremist interpretations of Islam will be much, much easier with Turkey as an ally on these issues instead of an enemy. And the Turks' sensitivity on this issue is hard for most Americans to imagine. Imagine the passions of the Vietnam war, the Confederate flag, the treatment of Native Americans, and the internment of Japanese-Americans all rolled into one, and you have a sense of the touchiness of this issue in Turkish life.

If this resolution passes the House, the U.S. can expect no cooperation from the Turks for anywhere from three to five years. Are you paying attention, Hillary? Obama? Are you prepared to enter the Oval Office and lead a war on terror without our closest Muslim ally?

91 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:31:27pm

88 got milk?

I was reading about that yesterday. You gotta love it when moonbats somehow end up popping thier own balloon.

/Heh

92 Angel  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:31:42pm

O yay a recommendation from some thug terrorists who seem to get more air time and news coverage than any other American or European org to date...and lo and behold...Theyre trumpetting an anti semite.
When are they gunna b on Oprah huh.

93 Earth2moonbat  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:35:08pm

They're getting a little wacky over at digg on this thread. USS Liberty, Israelis dancing on 9/11, the islamoloons are out in force.

94 Van Impe  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:36:56pm

#10

Just try to find a copy of Michael Fumento's Myth of Heterosexual AIDS or the $cientology expose, A Piece Of Blue Sky, at a public library.

Mrs. V. I. used to work at a public library and she says that every time there would be a newspaper or magazine article critical of Scientology, the offending article would be torn out by persons unknown almost immediately. Meanwhile every year fresh copies of Dianetics would be donated to the library.

95 piglet  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:42:06pm

The other big lie type material donated to libraries is
the intentionaly misleadingly titled: Washington Report on the middle east affairs.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

96 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:53:04pm

Last year, one of the libraries around here thad a big poster (apparently furnished by CAIR) with a dramatic overhead shot of the Blue Mosque in Isanbul that beckoned library patrons to 'Explore the World of Islam'. It has since been replaced by a chart depicting WWII aircraft.

97 rcris5  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:54:19pm

#8 hous bin pharteen

Amy has been running Mecca's only transgender sex for tender club. I understand that her dad is a regular and very proud of his daughter.

98 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:56:07pm

4 nextstopmars

Can we flush that book down the toilet?

Once we're done getting the koran down, yes.

99 find your violent jihadi on ebay!  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:56:46pm

I don't think it matters much, in this era of the internet, what's sitting in public libraries, but regardless, the west has simply got to get on the ball in battling Islamist propaganda. This is just another example of how CAIR/Islam/Arabs are ahead of the power curve in terms of creatively thinking about how to mold the minds of tomorrow.

PS I hope Carter is ashamed, though I'm sure he is not.

100 GoatGuy  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 7:59:53pm

You know ... I think we're going about this the wrong way

I know y'all are in a rare spirit, just slavering in wait for a sheep dumb enough to say, "buh buh buh ... Jimny's cool, ain't he?"

No. I'm becoming of the mind that we need to take the proud words, and and hold 'em to them. Let's try a few:

"Throughout his book, Jimmy Carter reminds us of the importance of keeping an open mind...: I agree, completely. I'm absolutely and incontrivertably behind the nutroots, moonbats and asswhacks out there being open minded. Like LIBERAL baby, really so open minded that when I counter y'all's bullshoy, you say, "ah, well yes, umm... you have a right to that opinion, and there certainly are good counters to our logic. Let's go have a beer!"

Following [...] he has been a tireless advocate of justice, human rights, and international development: Great, just grand! I really do admire a man who has become so far removed from the Peanut Gallery that he holds that most rare of titles, "EX-statesman". Jimny is fighting for what we want, truely and verily. Justice (we want that). Human Rights (definitely. Explain to the Saudis). International development (explain to the bungholes in South Philippines, or east Timor, or west Java).

[with billions served] and over 32 offices: Bravo! Wild applause! So, then I want to be clear, CAIR: you're behind the overthrow of all totalitarian governments, especially those that are unfortunately "islamic", since that's in your name. You are for unabridged and fully expressed human rights, all the way down to children's rights, gay's rights, women's rights, secularist's rights, Masonic rights, American rights, Democratic rights, Classless rights. I'm so pleased! I'm so tickled that you will be publicly protesting the 90 lashes of a Saudi jurisprudence travesty. I'm so proud that you'll get behind the War on Terror, to retrain our collective youth.

[CAIR's] mission is to promote security, dialog [, and the holding of big noisy events with as many thinkers in the group as cans of beer in a six pack]: Yes, I agree. Y'all keep promoting that security angle. But - it is fairly clear - and very positive! - that when it comes time to round up all "people of olive complexion", purely for civic service and potential security infractions ... You'll be behind it, right?

Right?

No?

Why not?

101 Highrise  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:00:24pm

40 DesertSage

That'll teach me for posting while my attention is elsewhere lol.

102 arf  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:04:23pm

I'm sure his book would make a nice fireplace log.

103 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:05:41pm

#99 find your violent jihadi on ebay!

There are many, many people who visit the library regularly but never the Internet. Ink on paper is still important.

104 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:18:04pm

Jimmy Carter did such a good job with the Camp David Accords, one of the signers was killed!

105 UncleSam  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:31:04pm

Carter's a traitor. The world wouldn't be having this problem with Islamofascism if Carter hadn't stabbed the Shah in the back .
And then he arranged for the return of Khomeini to Iran.
He's a filthy, despicable worm who hates freedom and the United States.

106 gymnast  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:32:48pm

The fashionable thing these days when in the library reading about islam is to use a strip of bacon for a bookmark. Be helpful and leave it for the next person, in case they didn't bring their own.

107 UncleSam  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:38:11pm

#106 gymnast: To quote Homer Simpson: OOOMMMMM......bacon!"

108 Sharmuta  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:42:37pm
109 zombie  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:49:18pm

Speaking of libraries:

At an unnamed municipal library in the Bay Area, the librarians publicly announced their refusal to cooperate with the Patriot Act. They said that if a known terrorist used a library computer for jihad activities (for the purpose of remaining anonymous), and if the FBI came requesting the logs for computer usage, they would refuse to turn them over. If Homeland Security asked to see a list of which books were checked out by a certain patron under investiigation, the librarians would not cooperate.

They were applauded for this announcement, not fired.

Word got around, apparently. Now, whenever I go in there it seems that an ever-increasing number of shifty-eyed creepos with stubble use the unmonitored computers, most likely to look at child porn, view beheading videos, research how to make chemical weapons, and initiate hack attacks on Jihad Watch -- not necessarily in that order. All under the smug self-congratulatory grins of the moonbat librarians.

110 Meremortal  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:50:53pm

#70 Sharmuta

I'm going you one better. If this damn book shows up at my library, it's getting moved to a backwater reference area. If it gets found and moved back, I'll check it out and "lose" it. I'll pay whatever is asked, of course. Hopefully the library won't replace it.

It's time for guerrilla warfare.

111 Robert D  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:55:43pm
#105 UncleSam 3/5/2007 10:31PM PST

Carter's a traitor. The world wouldn't be having this problem with Islamofascism if Carter hadn't stabbed the Shah in the back .
And then he arranged for the return of Khomeini to Iran.
He's a filthy, despicable worm who hates freedom and the United States.

Yup. What he said. The worst President, and EX president in history. Words are not enough to describe that POS.

112 eastvillageinfidel  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:56:50pm

Jimmy Carter is dangerously unhinged. I can't believe he still generates enough interest to get published. He's a total failure.I remember when Billy was the kook - remember the beer pulltab suit? Ha. Even dead and in a beer suit he looks like genius next to Jimmy.

113 victor_yugo  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:57:20pm

#109 zombie:

Apparently, in 48 states, it's a crime for a librarian to turn over patron records without first demanding a warrant.

114 RadicalRon  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 8:58:48pm

Someone shared this a few days ago. Thankfully, I bookmarked it. The picture refrehes every two minutes. And the view has changed from when I first looked at it.

Enjoy!

And a great big thank you to the original poster!

115 RadicalRon  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:05:52pm
#109 zombie

an ever-increasing number of shifty-eyed creepos with stubble use the unmonitored computers, most likely to look at child porn, view beheading videos, research how to make chemical weapons, and initiate hack attacks on Jihad Watch -- not necessarily in that order. All under the smug self-congratulatory grins of the moonbat librarians.


Anyone demanded suggested a prayer room and separate exclusive restrooms, yet?

116 UncleSam  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:15:18pm

What really gets me, after his horrible intentional failure in Iran, giving birth to worldwide jihadism, is how Carter sucks the dicks of every dictator he can find.
He's the most loathesome example of American political entities I can think of, except for maybe Teddy Kennedy, the Bloated Brainless Wonder.

117 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:21:33pm

a preview of out politicos I'm doing

Notes from the Tech Desk

As the year grinds along an I have time to look at what passes for leadership in this country, I have to shake my head sadly at the mediocrity we’re stuck with due to many various reasons. It seems we are in a perpetual election cycle, with the amount of tar getting thrown about getting shriller and stranger as time goes on.
The Democrats, for reasons that escape me, have already started the 2008 election cycle insofar as they are selecting a candidate for the nomination. A bit premature, since a lot can happen in nearly two years, but lets take a look at what we have so far:

Hillary Rodham Clinton:
PROS: A Money Machine to be envied for fundraising for her possible nomination
Experience over many years in various capacities as an elected official, and being a First Lady.

CONS: Seemingly lacking anything remotely resembling a sense or humor. (Is it just me, or does she look severely burned out?)
A sense of entitlement to the nomination. (Her reaction to Barak Huissen Obama’s possible nomination was, shall we say, a bit much?)
Her husband, Former President William Clinton (if you think he won’t be a drag on her ticket, you haven’t been paying attention).
A grasping and over-reaching personality (Some of her quotes when addressing people have been downright Statist in tone and her attempts to keep her marriage off-limits in the political debates, while laughable, show a severe disconnect with reality. All’s fair these days).
The Whitewater Scandal (This will be brought up. Bank on it).
Trying to be everything to everyone. (her attempt to affect a Southern accent in Selma was embarrassing to say the least. People prefer you when you are genuine. This was an obvious example of sucking up).

Predictions: She’ll tar and feather her opponent and generally throw a tantrum and how she was cheated out of her chance for the big seat. In essence, a female Al Gore.

118 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:22:42pm

Barak Huissen Obama

PROS: Relative inexperience in politics (this is being perceived as a plus as the disgust level with organized politics reaches record levels)

Better spoken than any of the other candidates on the field so far (Don’t laugh, as this is not a joke)

Appearance of a Old Style ‘JFK’ Democrat Politics and a willingness to treat other party members with a modicum of respect and ignore the hardliners in his party (Given the level of venom being tossed around these days, this is a major plus).

A singular capacity to ignore 60’s style race card politics (Mr. Obama scares the daylights out of Old Style hustlers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton because he doesn’t go in for the guilt politics used over the last some 42 years since the Selma March and shows that a black candidate can make it to the top without engaging in such tactics. Which drives the current leadership to distraction because it upsets their worldview. And thus the ‘he’s not black enough’ accusations from the old timers.)

CONS: His name: Barak HUISSEN Obama (Regrettably, his parentage of a Kenyan Black Muslim for a father is going to set many people on edge, as understandable xenophobia against Muslims is gaining traction these days, much like Xenophobia against Germans and Japanese during WWII. And no amount of social engineering is going to make the disappear. It’s unfair. It’s wrong. It’s NOT going away. Get used to the idea.)

Relative inexperience (Double-edged sword. People are going to look at him and wonder what makes him a leader.)

Social Policies that are Old Style Democratic Party…Circa 1970 (Sorry, but Pro-Union Support and Expanded Health Care Benefits, now the largest sector of the economy, outstripping the military siginificantly, just doesn’t cut the mustard anymore. People these days can add and can see the freight train coming. So these policies are not going to fly as well as Barak would like).

119 ex-dem  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:34:06pm

#20 - Disgraceful that Digg buried it. However, in looking for it, I did find this articlel about http://www.dailyherald.com/business/story.asp?id=2 87471 It is worth reading (and Digging).

120 UncleSam  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:34:27pm

#118 jewels: A phobia is an unwarrantedfear of something.
Fear of Germans and Japanese is WWII was warranted.
Fear of Muslims now is warranted.
Xenophobia, as you used in your post, refers to a fear of all foreigners.
(Xeno means foreign in Latin or Greek, I forget which.)
I think you mean to refer to so-called Islamophobia, which is a fiction, as there are very real reasons to fear Islam.
Such as 9-11 and the wolrdwide jihad and daily murderous atrocities now being conducted in the names of Islam and Mohammed.
Islam is a death cult and the world's longest ongoing criminal conspiracy, not a religion.

121 Anat  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:34:59pm

Please Digg this.

122 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:36:03pm

Uncle Sam

Perhaps I should say, fear of Muslims?

123 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:39:06pm

John Edwards:
PROS: Telegenic (well, physically anyway. He tries a bit too hard to be the Second Coming of JFK, tho)

CONS: Associated with Al Gore (Kinda like being associated with William Clinton, but only boring. Remember this guy was added to make Gore look bigger on his ticket).

Highly Visible Sucking Up: (You see, there is the little matter of his mansion, well complex, while saying he supports the little guy….)

Questionable Judgement: (These was this little problem with a blogger that he hired, saying some really vile things about Christians. Which he fired. Then hired back. I could have respected the former action, as it showed general decency. But now, shades of Kerry)

Prediction: Unsure. Possible contender against Obama.

124 UncleSam  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:41:18pm

Meant :"A phobia is an unwarranted fear of something."
Had a very long day at work.
Typing skills not optimal.

125 UncleSam  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:44:46pm

#122 Jewels: Yes, that woulod be preferable and far more accurate.

126 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:47:08pm

otherwise....the list of candidates so far? I'm trying to be fair...lord knows it's hard...but I try. Does Edwards actually do anything?

127 UncleSam  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:47:19pm

Gotta sign off. Too tired tu tipe akuretlty...

128 victor_yugo  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:52:19pm

"Xenophobia" is derived from two components, both Greek: "xenos" stranger/foreigner, and "phobia" fear.

129 victor_yugo  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 9:55:24pm

#123 Jewels:

Possible contender against Obama.

Edwards has to beat himself first. He'll probably lose that battle.

130 bmk  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 10:00:40pm

Reminds me of the time when I went 'under cover to attend the PSM/ISM conference at Duke University, an event that should have gotten Duke's Pres. Broadhead fired. He billed it as an opportunity for dialogue. It was anything but. Indeed, I found it to be a field day for perversion and subversion. Seminars were offered that taught PSMers how to take over school newspapers to spew their hatred, etc. For a while, I was on their mailing list afterwards. I spent almost a month reading their disgusting messages. When I could stand it no longer, I asked whether they supported violence against Israel, in the form of terrorist acts. That infuriated them, and they struck me from their list. Great dialogue. Thanks Broadhead...

131 twincitiesgirl  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 10:02:18pm

So that explains the 60 copies of this trash in our local (AZ) library system....and no waiting list for this one.

Meanwhile Mark Steyn's book, America Alone has only 9 copies available. People have been waiting since last September for our library to order it. They finally got it in sometime in November and currently still have 59 holds for it.

I respectfully ask the folks at CAIR to purchase an equal number of Steyn's book for American libraries.........all in the name of mutual understanding and open dialogue of course.

/time for bed

132 Lizard by the Bay  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 10:05:58pm

CAIR = HAMAS and HAMAS = CAIR. Yet still, our President cannot seem to extricate his lips from CAIR's collective asshole.

133 Highrise  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 10:06:15pm

Ahh msm stayed pretty quiet about this muslim doc in NY that severed a hand of a cadaver and gave it as a gift to his stripper gal..just read this over at debbie's:

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

She says there is more to the story coming up..can't wait to hear the rest hehe.

134 Highrise  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 10:16:30pm

off the link in 133

That muslim doc that severed the hand only has to pay 5000 fine and keep his nose clean for 15 months. The stripper that saved the severed hand...

Kay was charged with unlawful disposal of human remains. She enrolled in a counseling program, and if she complies with its terms for one year, her criminal record will be erased.

WTH is up with all this counseling bs?

135 Spiritualized  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 10:58:32pm

Al Gore's is Smaller Than Yours

...these smearmongers have procured “evidence” that Gore uses twenty times more electricity than your average American household. Well, of course he does – he’s twenty times more important than your average American.

(...)

Naturally, Al Gore’s carbon footprint is drastically smaller than that of a carbon-based lifeform. This allows him to enjoy the sort of lavish lifestyle that only a progressive celebrity truly deserves. There is also the matter of "carbon offsets" to consider - special “Eco-Credits” we can use to offset the amount of Carbon Debt we incur throughout our daily lives. The more environmentally-friendly you are, the more credits you obtain. Voting Democrat, for instance, earns you an automatic 1000 Eco-Credits. Wearing earth tones gets you another 5,000 Eco-Credits. Having at least one Prius in your 17-car garage is worth 20,000 Eco-Credits, and an additional 10,000 if you slap a Greenpeace bumper sticker on it. For those who can't afford a hybrid vehicle, abortions an inexpensive way to nab an easy 10,000 credits. Once you have accumulated enough Eco-Credits, you can exchange them for the privilege of heating your home, driving your car, or flushing your toilet.

(...)

Gore has chosen to hold his vast wealth of Eco-Credits in trust for the America people, until such a time that Mother Earth has passed safely from the under shadow of an environmental holocaust. Until that day comes, it is important that the rest of us reduce our carbon footprints by shutting off our heat, turning off our lights, and eating cold dog food directly from the can.

Well, not all of us.

Just you.

136 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:13:29pm

This is the Ann Coulter I like and the one I think most clever:

In any case, you can tell Coulter's botched joke really was a botched joke by the light touch she used when the New York Times asked her about it:

Ms. Coulter, asked for a reaction to the Republican criticism, said in an e-mail message: "C'mon, it was a joke. I would never insult gays by suggesting that they are like John Edwards. That would be mean."

To compare anyone to the phony Edwards truly is an insult. Why he thinks he is popular enough to become President is beyond me. Who is Edwards popular with but the ABA and rubes looking for a free handout letting John Boy have his cut of the shake down?

Ambulance chasers and rubes, UNITE!

137 hayseed  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:26:30pm

my Muslim pain mgmt doc thinks cair is a bunch of asshats.I don't know what madhab he is from, I guess i need to ask him the next time i see him. does anyone know what if any school of thought cair is from?

138 drewiechewey  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:27:30pm

I will grow a cock so that CAIR can suck it! Disgusting.....

139 Mike C.  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:40:26pm

# 137 hayseed

If he's a real muslim, he's lying to you. If he isn't lying to you he's not a real muslim (he doesn't get to decide that.)

Haven't you been paying attention here ?

140 Trumanite  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:47:11pm

Hot Air has a link to this 70's era "soulful" ode to the Jimmy the Dhimmi
"Jimmy Carter Says Yes". Rivals Songs for Dean for unintentional hilarity

BTW, Jimmy's favorite juvenile delinquents are up to their favorite pastime; shooting at whatever they can find to shoot at, even if its just each other.

141 hayseed  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:50:09pm

why yes mike i have and i also like Robert Spencer and he will also tell you that all Muslims are not evil.

142 Mike C.  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:53:38pm

Let me guess - everybody sent their sarcasm meters to the shop.

Didn't used to need tags for the really obvious stuff.

143 St. Pancake  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:59:49pm

Good morning!

Fruitcup------------------------------->
Coffee----------------->
Oatmeal---------------------------------->
Cranky Flakes™---->

144 Mike C.  Mon, Mar 5, 2007 11:59:54pm

Good morning, dead thread.

145 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:00:39am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

146 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:04:42am

Chocolate research centre to open in Sweden

It will be funded by Swedish and international chocolate producers, but Smith said they also hoped to secure European Union backing.
147 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:09:34am

I hereby volunteer to be a guinea pig.

/or just a pig.

148 Mike C.  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:12:25am
149 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:12:46am

"raising hand"

150 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:15:45am

Mike
It was nice to see Iraq the Model on there.

151 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:18:33am

Lebanese official says suspect has confessed to planting bomb on German train

Hamad, who comes from the northern city of Tripoli, told the judge that his aim in planting the bomb was not to kill but to defend Islam, the official said. He said he was retaliating for the publication of 12 cartoons that satirized the Prophet Muhammad.
152 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:23:12am

Merkel, French Candidate Royal Meet Amid Widening Policy Gulf

Merkel and Royal are due to hold their first official meeting in Berlin today amid evidence of a widening policy gulf between the two. They clashed last week over planned job cuts at European airplane maker Airbus SAS and the independence of the European Central Bank, while their respective attitudes toward the U.S. could hardly differ more.
There's further dissent on foreign affairs. Merkel has vowed to mend relations with the U.S. strained under her predecessor, Gerhard Schroeder, because of opposition to the Iraq war. Royal has criticized the concept of pre-emptive strikes and said in November that she backs a policy of ``independence'' from the U.S.
One shared platform is European Union enlargement, with Merkel and Royal both cool on Turkish EU membership
153 Trumanite  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:23:14am

#73 song_and_dance_man 3/5/2007 09:01PM PST

the Wet and Slick Willie Double Wide Trailer Library

Is this one of the FEMA trailers ?

154 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:27:42am

Clashes cloud Philippine peace hopes in Muslim south

MANILA, March 6 (Reuters) - Philippine troops may have killed up to 17 members of the country's largest Muslim rebel group in a prolonged gun battle overnight that could jeopardise plans to revive stalled peace talks between the two sides.

Lieutenant Colonel Jeavy Resureccion said on Tuesday that two soldiers were killed and four were wounded in fierce fighting with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) in two villages in Midsayap, north Cotabato, on the southern island of Mindanao

.

155 Trumanite  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:31:30am

"Experts" want to expand the definition of "torture" to encompass "humiliating treatment, verbal abuse" (and panties on the head")

156 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:31:32am

The St. Petersburg Declaration

We enjoin academics and thinkers everywhere to embark on a fearless examination of the origins and sources of Islam, and to promulgate the ideals of free scientific and spiritual inquiry through cross-cultural translation, publishing, and the mass media.
We say to Muslim believers: there is a noble future for Islam as a personal faith, not a political doctrine;
to Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Baha’is, and all members of non-Muslim faith communities: we stand with you as free and equal citizens
157 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:33:01am

155 Trumanite
Well, it ain't going to happen in reality.

158 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:38:27am

'Allies'

It is a statistical certainty that American and British soldiers will pay a price in blood this spring because their French, Spanish, Italian, German and -- if Mr. Dion has his way -- Canadian counterparts mean to keep their moral slates clean. A century ago that would have been a mark of martial and national dishonor, of "letting the side down." Today, it is a concession to the political reality that most NATO governments cannot muster political support for anything except a "peace mission" in Afghanistan. "If you are non-U.S., implicitly there is a political calculus," says a senior U.S. Army officer about his NATO colleagues. "You are looking over your shoulder to Ottawa. You're asking: 'Will getting five killed-in-action mean a phone call about the wisdom of this particular operation?'"

159 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:43:18am

FIRST ON WNBC.com: Man Charged With Plotting To Kill N.Y. Police Commissioner

An inmate at Rikers Island allegedly offered to pay $65,000 to have New York City police commissioner Ray Kelly killed and to have a bomb placed outside 1 Police Plaza.Police say Brown originally asked a third party to carry out the killing, saying he would like to see the commissioner "beheaded." But the man Brown allegedly sought to hire turned to police, who sent in an undercover officer.

Good grief.

160 galloping granny  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:48:07am
#109 zombie 3/5/2007 10:49PM PST

Speaking of libraries:

At an unnamed municipal library in the Bay Area, the librarians publicly announced their refusal to cooperate with the Patriot Act. They said that if a known terrorist used a library computer for jihad activities (for the purpose of remaining anonymous), and if the FBI came requesting the logs for computer usage, they would refuse to turn them over. If Homeland Security asked to see a list of which books were checked out by a certain patron under investiigation, the librarians would not cooperate.

They were applauded for this announcement, not fired.

Not only the Bay Area, Zombie. There was a huge flap among New Hampshire homeschoolers last year after several of them took their children into various libraries across the state for that "first library card" - age 10 in NH - only to have the librarian deliver a lengthy lecture to the kids pointing out their freedom to read or look at anything they cared to with no permission or approval from adults ; anything they took out on loan from the library or looked at on the computer was completely confidential, not even the parents would be told, yada yada yada.

The most ridiculous part of this "interpretation" of NH law: parents are legally responsible for paying for the replacement of lost/unreturned books, yet the librarians insist that they are forbidden by law from telling the parents what those books were. The whole thing, BTW, was fostered and promoted by some professional organization for librarians.

Needless to say, parents were absolutely outraged and there are now a lot of kids in NH that will not get library cards at all prior to age 18.

161 galloping granny  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:50:21am
#155 Trumanite 3/6/2007 02:31AM PST

"Experts" want to expand the definition of "torture" to encompass "humiliating treatment, verbal abuse" (and panties on the head")

That really is too bad. Somehow, equating panties on your head with having your fingernails pulled out one by one just greatly diminished the later.

162 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:55:12am
Police allege they were part of a terrorist cell and had stockpiled enough chemicals to make 15 large bombs. They could have been just days away from striking targets.

Only two Australians have so far been convicted of terrorism offences.

Australian Muslims in court over terrorist plot

163 St. Pancake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 12:57:56am

"Up, Up, and Oy Vey!

Weinstein also spoke of other Jewish influences on comic book superheros, including the Hulk's similarity to a Golem, a legendary creature said to be created by a mystic rabbi; the lifestyle of the Fantastic Four - "They fight and they kvetch and they save the whole world and they come home and eat dinner;" and the Holocaust references included in X-Men comic books.
164 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:00:37am

Nine GIs killed in IED attacks north of Baghdad

Top Delta men and contractors should be assigned to kill IED builders, their associates, and their Iranian advisors wherever they might be found. That includes Syria, Iran, and Belgium for all I care.
To the best of my knowledge, there has been no program of assassination directed against mid-level insurgents, everything has been geared to police style raids and due-process arrests despite the obvious dangers and absurdities involved. This should end at once. (The airstrike against Zarqawi last year required Presidential approval).

165 Trumanite  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:00:54am

#151 St. Pancake 3/6/2007 02:18AM PST

Lebanese official says suspect has confessed to planting bomb on German train

Well, OK, that's good I guess. Just as long as the "judicial interrogation" didn't include any verbal abuse. Those judges can really be insulting!

166 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:04:35am

Incidentally, civilian contractors in Iraq are better able to protect themselves than our military personnel. Civilians can shoot known insurgents on sight. Under present RoE, soldiers cannot.

167 humanity  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:05:46am

#154 St. Pancake


Hamad, who comes from the northern city of Tripoli, told the judge that his aim in planting the bomb was not to kill but to defend Islam, the official said. He said he was retaliating for the publication of 12 cartoons that satirized the Prophet Muhammad.

are we also allowed to defend our Belief ?

If yes, then i will take Mecca, i am making the earliest Bid....
i will not plant any bomb... Bombs and i.. never..... I will defend in peaceful way....... i will carry a pen to mecca....

AHA... don't take it that easy.... i will carry special pen.
;)

anyways what happen to susbloodlabs.... why they stop production of that pen....

168 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:11:27am

Mike C

Kos's endorsements haven't always triumphed, but his backing of Ned Lamont was influential in opponent
Joe Lieberman's loss of the Democratic Senate primary in Connecticut last year, though Lieberman eventually won the general election as an independent. Kos has not indicated any desire to run for office himself as yet.


Thank You Kos,
For helping Mr. Lieberman realize how stupid the freaking Democrats are, And winning the general election as an independent.

And Kos should run for office.
I am sure he could win the local election,
Animal Control or Office of Septic Tank and Smell prevention..

169 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:13:58am

Update to an earlier thread:
Copenhagen hippie warren demolished

Despite calls that permeated Europe's pop-culture outlets and dope-houses, only a few hundred foreign vandals and hopheads showed up to reinforce the native rioters in their effort to retain control of this stolen property.
This entire Vietcong uprising has been snuffed out with a rapidity that has obviously caught the left-wing European media by surprise. They are probably crestfallen that no rank and file rioters were killed, a sentiment with which I agree, "oddly enough" (as Al Reuters might say).
Well done, Danish police.

170 3 wood  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:22:11am

Good Morning.

UN considering more sanctions against Iran.

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - In an effort to pressure Iran into suspending uranium enrichment, six key U.N. ambassadors began a week of negotiations on possible new sanctions but agreement was still elusive.

"I think the basic idea is to expand and strengthen the sanctions regime but how far we will go, I think there are some differences among member states," China's U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya said after the opening round on Monday.

I think that both a strongly worded letter and double-secret probation are on the table.

171 shiplord kirel  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:30:10am

Another intriguing story from The Telegraph (grain of salt):
Spy's disappearance sparks kidnap fears

The disappearance of a former Iranian spy chief has raised speculation he has been kidnapped by Mossad or the CIA.
Ali Reza Azkari, 63, who headed Iran’s intelligence operation in Lebanon in the 1990s liaising with the local Shia militia, Hizbollah, went missing last month during a routine visit to Istanbul.
One report said after leaving Teheran he never made it to the Istanbul hotel where a room had been reserved in his name. Another account said he arrived in Istanbul but then disappeared, leaving luggage still in his hotel room.
With his whereabouts unknown, one theory circulating today is that he had been kidnapped either by Mossad or the CIA. His experience and background would make him a highly attractive target for both agencies
172 nonic  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:39:15am
This image of Saturn could not have been taken from Earth. No Earth based picture could possibly view the night side of Saturn and the corresponding shadow cast across Saturn's rings. Since Earth is much closer to the Sun than Saturn, only the day side of the planet is visible from the Earth. In fact, this image mosaic was taken in January by the robotic Cassini spacecraft now orbiting Saturn. The beautiful rings of Saturn are seen in full expanse, while cloud details are visible near the night-day terminator divide.

Good morning, people.

173 Goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:45:09am

Good morning, Lizards.

174 Bubbaman  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:49:10am

CAIR's book donation campaign has been so successful that they are following up their initial offering with the following:

2) Mein Kampf

3) Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

175 nonic  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:51:31am

St. Pancake

Good morning. Did you see my later comments last night where my son was explaining to his (always-takes-things-too-literally-and-is-a little-too-naive-for-her-own-good) mother that that was more an entertainment service than a cleaning service?

/blush

176 Widow'smight  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 1:56:32am

Nonic,

My Wife's friend likes to clean her house in her Birthday suit too. I guess the dust doesn't stick to your skin like it does to your clothes.

What happened to Spring?

177 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:15:43am

171 shiplord lirel
Wretchard reports the Iranian has defected with his family and is cooperating with the US.
The mullahs are wrorrying, regardless, and that's a good thing.

178 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:24:09am

Hey, where is everybody?

179 BulgarWheat  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:25:32am

Vanishing Iranian Generals.....would make a great name for a Garage Rock Band....

180 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:33:24am

Anybody got a stick of dynamite? I can't get the kid out of bed this morning.

181 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:36:09am

Anyone left doubt the allience between the far elft and jihad?

182 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:38:31am

International Briefs: Bomb was not a threat, suspect reportedly says
ReutersPublished: March 5, 2007

A Lebanese man confessed Monday to putting a bomb on a train in Germany and said it was intended to warn against insulting the Prophet Muhammad rather than to kill, a judicial source said.

[Link: www.iht.com...]


Why do Muslims get violent when infidels insult Mo by saying he was violent?

183 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:39:35am

#177 Jim in Virginia
If true , that's a huge story. Most of the MSM seems pretty uninterested though.

184 hayseed  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:40:37am

hayseed 3/6/2007 01:26AM PST

my Muslim pain mgmt doc thinks cair is a bunch of asshats.I don't know what madhab he is from, I guess i need to ask him the next time i see him. does anyone know what if any school of thought cair is from?
.................................................. .............................
Mike C. 3/6/2007 01:40AM PST

# 137 hayseed

If he's a real muslim, he's lying to you. If he isn't lying to you he's not a real muslim (he doesn't get to decide that.)

Haven't you been paying attention here ?

.................................................. .........................

does every one here think all Muslims are evil?

185 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:40:54am

Israel makes fun of AbnerDinnerJerk,
Stand up comedy..

[Link: www.jerusalemonline.com...]


Warning
one F word..

186 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:42:40am

#184 hayseed 3/6/2007 04:40AM PST

does every one here think all Muslims are evil?

Islam by nature is evil and any Muslim that follows the teachings of Mo are evil. If Muslims dont do that, they arent evil and really arent Muslims.

187 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:44:14am

#184 hayseed
Nope, not me.

188 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:44:22am

183 Kilgore Trout

Maybe the government does not want this story bandied about. Were Soviet Bloc defections given a lot of publicity back in the day?

189 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:45:31am

184 hayseed

I don't.

190 nonic  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:49:40am

#176 Widow

No, this wasn't nude. It was skimpy French maid outfits. Very skimpy. But still dressed. (Sort of.)

:-)

191 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:50:39am

#188 MandyManners
It depends, I'm sure this stuff gets complicated but he's a big bargaining chip. There were a lot of those soviet defections that were big news for propaganda purposes. I suspect the high value intelligence ones were kept a little more quiet.

192 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:53:44am

171 shiplord kirel Maybe he just chucked it all and went to Amsterdam for a little R&R.

193 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:54:37am

191 Kilgore Trout

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Langley.

194 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:55:55am

O'Reilly's gonna' have Maher on tonight.

195 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:57:42am

182 Elric66 So the bomb wasn't a threat but a warning?

Or it wasn't a threat, it was real?

196 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:58:45am

It's been a bad week for Russian critics of Putin. That story doesn't seem to have legs either.

197 stephen2  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:59:20am

Truth

#169 Shiplord Kirel Copenhagen hippie warren demolished

Fiction

Reuters COPENHAGEN — Demolition work began on Monday at a youth center

too easy

198 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:59:32am

#184 hayseed 3/6/2007 04:40AM PST


Better question is "Is Islam evil"

199 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 2:59:59am

195 funky chicken

Fake but threatening?

200 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:00:40am

198 Elric66

YES!

201 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:01:21am
#195 funky chicken 3/6/2007 04:57AM PST

182 Elric66 So the bomb wasn't a threat but a warning?

Or it wasn't a threat, it was real?


Im sure more will come out later. In any case, its just another day in the fall of Europe

202 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:02:11am
203 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:02:25am

#200 MandyManners 3/6/2007 05:00AM PST

198 Elric66

YES!

I think so too. So can someone follow an evil "religion" and not be evil?

204 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:04:02am

184 hayseed All the devout, pray 5 X a day and must force public American facilities to prepare washing and praying areas for them, read the koran but still say Muhammad was the perfect man, think the US needs to become an Islamic country muslims are a threat to our society. Some are evil in that they get their rocks off over suicide bombings and preparing for the slaughter of the infidel, Isha'allah. Some are just deceived, tragically deceived and misled.

The $64K question is are they victims of the Lord of Deceivers (Satan) or just people who have fallen prey to a particularly vicious cult.

205 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:05:02am

Ganja Jihad...
Yahoo pic

Palestinian security forces burn marijuana plants after they were confiscated in the West Bank town of Halhoul near Hebron

Here's a truckload of buds.

206 hayseed  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:05:34am

198 eric....I agree with that, i just can't hate all muslims.
in fact I pray that the see the light and change.

207 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:05:41am

What Gore Doesn't Say

Don't read his lips.

208 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:07:20am
209 Widow'smight  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:07:48am

Nonic,

No, this wasn't nude. It was skimpy French maid outfits. Very skimpy. But still dressed. (Sort of.)

I guess they sort of clean stuff too, sort of. But since I clean more than my wife, I guess I'd need to find some sort of costume too.

210 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:07:56am

PA orders book of folk tales pulled from schools


Many Palestinians angered and worried after Hamas-run Education Ministry orders anthology of Palestinian folk tales to be pulled from libraries and destroyed, reportedly over mild sexual innuendo

Associated Press Published: 03.05.07, 18:38 / Israel News


The Hamas-run Education Ministry has ordered an anthology of Palestinian folk tales pulled from school libraries and destroyed, reportedly over mild sexual innuendo, officials said Monday, in the most direct attempt by the Islamic militants to impose their beliefs on Palestinian society.


[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]


"Militants" the Palis voted for. Dont forget that AP.

211 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:09:12am

Another Iranian defection...
Iranian Imam Receives Christ Via Satellite TV, Escapes Country

One of the top Islamic leaders in Iran accepted Christ and left the country after facing death threats and imprisonment, according to an Iranian pastor living in the U.S.

212 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:09:51am

3 wood must be thrilled to hear that Carlos Zambrano has guaranteed a Cubs World Series victory this year.

Stranger things have happened, though this is in the realm of the incredibly hard to believe.

213 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:12:22am
214 hayseed  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:13:02am

jamieWearingFool.......how are the Cincinnati Reds gona do this year?

215 storagemanager  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:14:19am
Fellow Americans, our duty is before us tonight. Let us go forward, determined to serve selflessly a vision of man with God, government for people, and humanity at peace. For it is now our task to tend and preserve, through the darkest and coldest nights, that "sacred fire of liberty" that President Washington spoke of two centuries ago, a fire that tonight remains a beacon to all the oppressed of the world, shining forth from this kindly, pleasant, greening land we call America.

President Ronald Reagan

216 shug  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:14:34am

#212 JammieWearingFool


3 wood must be thrilled to hear that Carlos Zambrano has guaranteed a Cubs World Series victory this year.

Stranger things have happened, though this is in the realm of the incredibly hard to believe

.

name one

:)

217 hayseed  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:15:50am

213...ploome hineni...yes immagration must be stopped!

218 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:16:17am

More from the UK film set to air Thursday.

Global warming scam

"It's very rare that a film changes history," says Martin Durkin, "but I think this is a turning point, and in five years the idea that the greenhouse effect is the main reason behind global warming will be seen as total bunk," he says.

His program collides sharply with the premise outlined in former Vice President Al Gore's Oscar-winning documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth," which presents a bleak picture of how a buildup in greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide affects the global climate, with potentially disastrous consequences.

"Al Gore might have won an Oscar," says Mr. Durkin, in a preview of the documentary, "but the film is very misleading, and he has got the relationship between [carbon dioxide] and climate change the wrong way around."

219 Lively  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:17:36am

#211 Killgore Trout
But...but....Jesus (PBUH) is a recognized and celebrated prophet in Islam. Islam is tolerant of other religions.

220 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:18:27am

213 ploome can't argue with any of that

221 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:19:14am

shug,

Here's two: The Red Sox and White Sox each won the World Series.

OK, maybe they're not stranger. But strange nonetheless.

A third would be a leftwinger telling the truth.

222 Lively  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:19:18am

When someone brings up how tolerant Islam is about Jesus, I say, "Why is Christmas banned in SA?"

223 hayseed  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:20:56am

I go see one of my Muslim docs this morning. I'm gonna ask her if sharia is more important than the constitution.I'm lucky that my docs are willing to talk about these things. I get more office time when I talk about Islam.lol I do believe she will be honest, she loves capitalism.

224 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:21:10am

218 jammie Is that film/series available for purchase yet? It's a BBC product, right? We don't get the BBC.

I also saw it's on their "Channel 4" which seems to have the anti-idiotarian product more than the regular BBC? I could be totally wrong on that one, since we don't watch any BBC product at all.

225 Miss Trixie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:22:36am

♪ Good morning {LGF} ♪ Bloody hell! What happened to Spring? Presently it's -25°C (-15°F) and with the wind, it's -42°C (-43°F) but we DO have lots of sunshine.

We're back to brass monkey weather!

226 storagemanager  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:22:36am
222 Lively 3/6/2007 05:19AM PST

When someone brings up how tolerant Islam is about Jesus, I say, "Why is Christmas banned in SA?"


The Islamic Jesus will break the cross and fight the Jews...He is not the Jesus of the Bible....many Christians are being fooled also.

227 TS  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:23:23am

They sure know how to work those keywords...mutual understanding and respect. Yeah right!

228 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:23:36am

#223 hayseed
Good for you, I think you'll find that most muslims are just like the rest of us. There are people who'll try to convince you otherwise but to find out for yourself is the best way.

229 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:23:37am
#213 ploome hineni 3/6/2007 05:12AM PST

206 hayseed 3/6/2007 05:05AM PST
198 eric....I agree with that, i just can't hate all muslims.
in fact I pray that the see the light and change.

and I don;t hate all mulims, but I know that bringing muslims into the USA, allowing muslim funding in our schools and universities, allowing Saudi and Iranian govenrment funding for islamic 'religious' institutions and schools,is allowing a true 5th column to establish secure base for the islamic mandate to DESTROY SECULAR government, and impose islamic law.

The purpose of islam is to impose islamic law, sharia


Nothing good comes from Islam. It has no place in Western culture. Both cultures can not co-exist because of Islamic doctrine.

230 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:23:40am

China's spies 'very aggressive' threat to U.S.

Whatever they don't have, President Rodham will be happy to sell to help fund her reelection bid.

231 shug  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:24:04am

211
jammie

well I was at the world series last year watching the same Tigers team play, that I watched lose their 118th game three years earlier. ( damn midget Ekstein ruined everything! )

So anything is possible.
still, I never saw this guy in the stands at Comerica park

232 EE  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:24:25am

An important goal of CAIR (which is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood, whose Levantine branch Hamas is sworn to destroy Israel) is to influence the American public against Israel. That's why they are offering free copies of Jimmy Carter's anti-Israel book to libraries and urging them to accept this offer.

233 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:25:59am
#222 Lively 3/6/2007 05:19AM PST

When someone brings up how tolerant Islam is about Jesus, I say, "Why is Christmas banned in SA?"

Islam is tolerant of Jesus. They just view Jesus as a Muslim prophet. Islamic teachings teach that Jesus will come back to break the cross. They are tolerant of Jesus, not Christianity.

234 storagemanager  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:26:04am
223 hayseed 3/6/2007 05:20AM PST

I go see one of my Muslim docs this morning. I'm gonna ask her if sharia is more important than the constitution.I'm lucky that my docs are willing to talk about these things. I get more office time when I talk about Islam.lol I do believe she will be honest, she loves capitalism.


Then she is not a Koran Muslim....Many call themselves Christian and have never picked up a Bible and learned what that means...its the same with Islam.

235 Paco from Sefarad  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:26:31am

#224 funky chicken

218 jammie Is that film/series available for purchase yet? It's a BBC product, right? We don't get the BBC.

I also saw it's on their "Channel 4" which seems to have the anti-idiotarian product more than the regular BBC? I could be totally wrong on that one, since we don't watch any BBC product at all.

Channel 4 is not the BBC.
[Link: www.channel4.com...]

236 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:26:32am

Watch out Mahdi, there's a new Antichrist in town:

Britney Spears Went Off Deep End, Claimed To Be 'Antichrist'

Britney Spears claimed she was the "Antichrist" before trying to commit suicide, it has been reported.

The troubled singer - who is currently in Malibu's Promises rehab centre - scribbled 666 on her shaved head and terrified staff by screaming, "I am the Antichrist!".

A source told Britain's News of the World newspaper: "She was crying and shouting, 'I am the Antichrist!' Then she started screaming, 'I'm a fake!' "Later that night she tried to kill herself. She attached a sheet to a light and tied it around her neck. Paramedics were called, but luckily she was unhurt."

Britney has reportedly begged estranged husband Kevin Federline, 28, to renew their wedding vows and have another child.

The source added: "Britney has realized what a rock Kevin has been to her, she wants to be with him again. Britney seems much happier and has calmed down since the incident. She is a completely different Britney from the beginning of the week."

The 25-year-old is said to have requested one night away from the clinic to be with Kevin.

237 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:27:50am

222 Lively Or "Why are Bibles confiscated by customs upon entry to Saudi Arabia?"

Hey, Jesus was a Jew after all. "How many synagogues are there in Saudi Arabia?"

238 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:28:30am
#234 storagemanager 3/6/2007 05:26AM PST


Then she is not a Koran Muslim....Many call themselves Christian and have never picked up a Bible and learned what that means...its the same with Islam.

Exactly. The Muslims that tend to be tolerant are the ones that dont follow Islam and the teachings of Mo. They might as well be athiests, Christians, or Jews.

239 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:29:00am

Currently 12ºF (-11ºC) in Central Park!

Whoa-Hoaaa!

MARCH COMING IN LIKE A SEA LION WATCH

Just checking around, winds blowing steady between 25 and 30 mph (40 to 48 km/hr) at LGA and ISP, with temps a slightly warmer 14ºF and 13ºF, respectively.


PHL, at 17ºF (-8ºC), not quite as cold, but while NYC only gets 1 to 2 inches of powdery snow tomorrow, PHL could get 3 or 4 inches. The powedery nature makes cleanup a breeze, but sharply reduces school cancellation potential.

Hmmm, while NYC still only gets 1 or 2 inches, new 6Z WRF suggests PHL gets closer to 6 inches (15 cm), and while it is light and fluffy, that just might be enough to cancel school. Bad news is heaviest snow is late tomorrow afternoon and evening, giving the snow removal crews time to do their evil work.

Storm Prediction Center sees no organized severe thunderstorms the next week, although GFS shows a mesoscale convective complex developing from Kansas to the Texas Panhandle Saturday evening and reaching the Texas coast early Sunday afternoon. Worth watching, but GFS has a convective feedback look to it.

240 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:29:08am

Israeli Says Iran Is Training Hamas Men

TEL AVIV, March 5 — The chief of Shin Bet, the Israeli internal security service, said Monday that the Islamic movement Hamas had sent dozens of men from Gaza to Iran for military training.

“We know that Hamas has started to dispatch people to Iran, tens, and a promise of hundreds,” the intelligence chief, Yuval Diskin, told a small group of correspondents here in a rare on-the-record briefing.

The training would last months, perhaps years, he said, adding, “I see this as the strategic danger, more than any weapons smuggled into Gaza.”


[HASAN CHOP!]

241 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:29:41am

Anyway, here Serge lowers the boom:

TRIFKOVIC: This is really rich. First of all, to claim that the Kuran is a pacifist tract...
D'SOUZA: I didn't say it's a pacifist tract.

TRIFKOVIC: Well, you do say that people like Spencer and I pick and choose. Have you actually read the Kuran? Have you ever actually read the Kuran?

D'SOUZA: Of course I have.

TRIFKOVIC: Do you know how are the Suras arranged?

D'SOUZA: They are... er... they are not arranged in any chronological order... er... [pause] and... er... [pause] and so I quote in my book both the violent and...

TRIFKOVIC: Just tell me how ARE they arranged.

D'SOUZA: The other point...

TRIFKOVIC: Can you just tell me how are the Suras arranged?

D'SOUZA: ... right. You can't just call...

TRIFKOVIC: Why don't you just tell me how are the Suras arranged?

HENNEN: OK, one at a time here; your question for Dinesh, Serge, is?

TRIFKOVIC: In what order are the Suras arranged in the Kuran?

D'SOUZA: [long silence] I really don't know what you mean by that. When you say "in what order" then... err... [pause] there...

TRIFKOVIC: ... an interlocutor who tries to pass authoritative judgments on the subject is refusing to tell me how are the Suras and the verses of the Kuran arranged. They happen to be arranged by SIZE, from short to long!


LOL Too funny

242 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:29:51am

funky chicken,

I have no idea when or if it will be avialble here, but I imagine LGF operative kasper will send Charles some snippets.

I'm surprised the climate change brownshirts aren't trying to have it yanked like the Democrat goons tried to do with the Path to 9/11.

The tolerance/freedom of speech crowd just hate it when dissenting viewpoints are presented.

243 Chris L.  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:30:54am

Congrats to the undercover LGF operative. Good work!

Behold the Lizard Army...

244 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:30:58am

235 paco Thanks! I barely understand US TV as I watch very little. So does Channel 4 usually offer things like this global warming doc for sale?

245 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:31:40am

Islam could become Europe’s dominant religion

LAHORE: As the Anglican Communion continues to fight over homosexuality and as church attendance plummets, experts say that Islam is well on its way to becoming the most dominant religion in Europe, according to an article posted on CNSNews.com. Meeting in London this week in their General Synod, leaders of the Church of England continued to debate the role of gay and lesbian priests. This follows another meeting in Tanzania in which Anglican bishops issued an official warning over the matter to the Episcopal Church – the American wing of the communion. Meanwhile, research studies show that church attendance in Britain is dropping precipitously, as well as across the whole of Western Europe. According to Christian Research, a British think tank, only 6.3 percent of the British population in 2005 attended Christian services on a weekly basis. But while church attendance on the continent reportedly shows a similar decline, the Muslim population has exploded, said the CNSNews.com article.

[CHOP]

246 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:33:09am

#245 BabbaZee 3/6/2007 05:31AM PST

Islam could become Europe’s dominant religion


Well, Europe didnt like Christianity, lets see how they like Islam.

247 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:33:40am
248 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:34:14am

shug,

Bartman has relocated to an undisclosed location in Florida, where bad people go to blend into the woodwork.

Stupid Bartman prevented the Yankees from slapping the Cubs around in the 2003 World Series.

249 shug  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:34:51am

246 Elric66

#245 BabbaZee

Islam could become Europe’s dominant religion


Well, Europe didnt like Christianity, lets see how they like Islam.


they might not like it ( as many toddlers do not like eating their vegetables ) but like said toddlers they aren't going to have a say in the matter!

250 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:35:14am
#228 Killgore Trout 3/6/2007 05:23AM PST

#223 hayseed
Good for you, I think you'll find that most muslims are just like the rest of us. There are people who'll try to convince you otherwise but to find out for yourself is the best way.


You forgot the sarc tag on that one

251 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:36:14am
#249 shug 3/6/2007 05:34AM PST

they might not like it ( as many toddlers do not like eating their vegetables ) but like said toddlers they aren't going to have a say in the matter!


No they wont. Islam is a one way door.

252 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:36:54am
253 shug  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:37:11am

251 elric

much like the floor of a gallows

254 songbird  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:37:19am

Good Morning Lizards!

Mom now has both arms casted to the elbow, and can move about with her knee brace. She still cannot properly feed herself, and we are going to try to get some home help for her today.


Here is a list we should all read. I think one of our fellow lizardoids quoted Dr. Phil as saying that you cannot fix what you don't acknowledge. Why does it seem that predominately Muslim countries live in a perpetual state of denial?

All credit goes to fellow blogger, Ker-plunk.

255 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:37:26am

236 babbazee wowzer what a mess that chick is. If anybody in her family was decent they would take her back to Louisiana, buy her a nice farm and help her live quietly off the interest on her remaining fortune.

256 littleoldlady  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:37:53am

It's our Annual Mid-March Philadelphia Snowstorm™ - the harbinger of Spring!

Okay, it's maybe a week earlier than usual. The groundhog is still a big fat liar.

257 storagemanager  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:38:14am
The menace of Sharia: Rather than solving the problem, many have foolishly allowed its gradual unchecked spread in the names of diversity and tolerance. Unfortunately, as this dark-age jurisprudence is totally incompatible with any democratic society, those buying into this creeping multicultist folly are doing so at the peril of their own heritage and freedom.

Of course, it comes as little surprise that anti-American countries like France have all but surrendered. Yet, ironically, it also appears that our best ally in the war against Islamic extremism may unwittingly be among our worst in the struggle against its fundamental objective – a world ruled by the strict Islamic Law of Sharia

[Link: www.newmediajournal.us...]

258 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:38:55am

#252 ploome hineni 3/6/2007 05:36AM PST

#241 Elric66 3/6/2007 05:29AM PST

do you have a link for that?

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

259 nonic  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:39:16am

#209 Widow

Hmmm.

Well, I'd rather see a man doing yard work. And for that the "appropriate" costume is short cut-off jeans, serious work boots, and sweat (accenting tan and muscles).

:-)

(I'm not talking about gender-role work, housework vs yardwork. Not talking about that at all. Talking about what's good to look at.)

260 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:39:54am

#255 funky chicken
If anyone in her family cared about her and not her money it would never have gone this far to begin with.

261 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:40:19am

#253 shug 3/6/2007 05:37AM PST

251 elric

much like the floor of a gallows

Cant feel sorry for them. Unlike many other lands conquered by Islam, Europe has invited the army of jihad and submitted.

262 niall  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:40:23am

OT:Goldsboro — The Goldsboro City Council ruled Monday night that the planning board was right in saying a mosque should not be built on a site proposed by a local doctor, City Manager Joe Huffman said.

[Link: www.wral.com...]

263 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:40:43am
264 storagemanager  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:42:25am
All the Infidel Hate in the World in a Single Word…Sharia
But more threatening cries were heard from many of overtly subversive intention, including Khalid Kelly, who holds those responsible for the 7/7 bombings in London in high esteem, indeed. Said the radical Irish Muslim convert:

“The ultimate goal of every Muslim is to establish Sharia law over the whole Earth. It is a superior way of life and every Muslim living in the UK has an obligation to call for Sharia law to be implemented.”

[Link: www.newmediajournal.us...]

265 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:42:56am

I think the best fisk of D'Souza's book was done by Fitzgerald of Jihadwatch/Dhimmiwatch. Does anybody have a link?

I LOL when he said something about D'Souza being like the old scolds in some lady's morality society in his approval of Islamic mores or something.

266 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:44:22am

Stop Global Decrustification! Halp us, AlBoracle!
Earth's Crust Missing In Mid-Atlantic

267 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:44:47am

262 niall Not OT at all actually

268 Killgore Trout  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:46:44am

#250 Elric66
No sarc tag needed. I've been down this road with you before and I'm not in the mood this morning to do it again. Your dehumanizing rhetoric towards Muslims is disgusting, spooky, and dangerous. It makes us all look bad.

#247 ploome hineni
Not even worth a response.

269 storagemanager  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:47:58am
Winds of War: Muslims Teaching Their Children the Culture of Death

Cue a children's program on Hizbollah TV:

A ten-year old daughter of a suicide bomber comes on and says:

"I have often prayed for my father to be martyred.I am very happy God heard my heard my prayers.

The love of Islam. [Link: the-gathering-storm.blogspot.com...]

270 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:48:49am
271 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:49:11am

#268 Killgore Trout 3/6/2007 05:46AM PST

#250 Elric66
No sarc tag needed. I've been down this road with you before and I'm not in the mood this morning to do it again. Your dehumanizing rhetoric towards Muslims is disgusting, spooky, and dangerous. It makes us all look bad.

#247 ploome hineni
Not even worth a response.

So you think Islam is a peaceful religion like Christianity and Judaism? I doubt you will answer that. :-)

272 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:49:38am

Criticizing Putin Bad for Your Health

I looked into his eyes and saw evil.

273 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:51:26am

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

Fitzgerald on D'Souza:

Dinesh D’Souza has fallen for that nonsense about “family values” in Islam. He is apparently so offended by the obvious decadence of the Western world that he likes the idea of fine, upstanding people who don’t use tattoos or practice body-piercing, and whose children must listen to their parents — as long as those parents are Muslim. If you convert to Islam, however, you need not have any respect for your non-Muslim parents who have been Left Behind. In the world of Dinesh D’Souza, a humorless and self-preening little world, some kinds of “morality” are accepted — presumably the official Muslim hatred for homosexuality appeals to straight-laced Dinesh D’Souza — but others are not.

What does Dinesh D’Souza find “moral” in polygamy, or in the contemptible treatment of women, not least in their inability to make a rape charge stick, or in the unequal punishments for women and men accused of sexual misconduct? How does he like lapidation as a form of execution? And the four male witnesses rule in cases of rape? What kind of “family values” are these? And what about being able to divorce — for the man — merely by saying “I divorce you” three times? Does that impress Dinesh D’Souza as an advance on Western ways? Can’t one deplore many of the things that go on in the West without embracing or defending Islam?

What does Dinesh D’Souza think of Qutb? He remembers Qutb, doesn’t he — the man who came to America in the late 1940s for two years, the man who was disgusted by those church socials, and above all that hideous and dangerous square-dancing — “Swing your ladies and dosido, and don’t step on your partner’s toe”? Does he not realize that it was this, and not Internet pornography or Howard Stern’s surpassing vulgarity, that offended and offends Muslims?

SNIP

Dinesh D’Souza is in some ways akin to Pat Buchanan. Buchanan’s antisemitism prevents him from supporting Israel or understanding that the Lesser Jihad against Israel is no different in kind from the Jihad now being pursued against non-Muslims in Western Europe and elsewhere. In Dinesh D’Souza’s case, he seems to have become such a Moralist of the cheapest, most narrow and obvious League-of-Decency kind, that seeing Muslim girls, for example, modestly dressed, has led him to forget all the rest of Islam: the Islam that divides the world between Believer and Infidel.

If you haven't read the whole thing, click the link. It's well worth the time.

274 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:52:28am

272 thanks Jammie. Hey, somebody's gotta connect those dots, and the exalted ones at the NY Times and Wash Post are apparently too busy....

275 galloping granny  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:53:41am
#233 Elric66 3/6/2007 05:25AM PST

#222 Lively 3/6/2007 05:19AM PST

When someone brings up how tolerant Islam is about Jesus, I say, "Why is Christmas banned in SA?"

Islam is tolerant of Jesus. They just view Jesus as a Muslim prophet. Islamic teachings teach that Jesus will come back to break the cross. They are tolerant of Jesus, not Christianity.

Of course, Elric66. Islam is perfectly tolerant of "Jesus" - whom they call "Issa." They just happen to be tolerant of an "Issa" that no Christian would recognize. "Issa" is the WRONG Jesus - as predicted.

276 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:57:07am

#275 galloping granny 3/6/2007 05:53AM PST

Of course, Elric66. Islam is perfectly tolerant of "Jesus" - whom they call "Issa." They just happen to be tolerant of an "Issa" that no Christian would recognize. "Issa" is the WRONG Jesus - as predicted.


Just remember, all of God's prophets got it wrong so God had to send in a homocidal, pedophile to get God's word correct.

/

277 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:58:27am

Yea....
well.....
I think you suck too, BBC.

BBC survey: Iran, Israel, U.S. have most negative image worldwide; Canada best


LONDON (AP) - Israel, Iran and the United States are the countries with the most negative image in a globe-spanning survey of attitudes toward 12 major countries. Canada and Japan came out best in the poll, released Tuesday.

The survey for the British Broadcasting Corp.'s World Service asked more than 28,000 people to rate 12 countries - Britain, Canada, China, France, India, Iran, Israel, Japan, North Korea, Russia, the United States and Venezuela - as having a positive or negative influence on the world.

Israel was viewed negatively by 56 per cent of respondents and positively by 17 per cent; for Iran, the figures were 54 per cent and 18 per cent. The United States had the third-highest negative ranking, with 51 per cent citing it as a bad influence and 30 per cent as a good one. Next was North Korea, which was viewed negatively by 48 per cent and positively by 19 per cent.

Canada had the most positive rating in the survey of 28,389 people in 27 countries, with 54 per cent viewing it positively and 14 per cent negatively. It was followed by Japan and France.

Respondents were also asked their views of the 25-member European Union; 53 per cent saw it as positive and 19 per cent as negative.

Britain, China and India were viewed more positively than negatively, while Russia had more negative than positive responses. Opinion on Venezuela was evenly split.

"It appears that people around the world tend to look negatively on countries whose profile is marked by the pursuit of military power," said Steven Kull , director of the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes, which conducted the research along with pollster GlobeScan.

"Countries that relate to the world primarily through soft power, like France and Japan and the EU in general, tend to be viewed positively," he added.

Pollsters questioned about 1,000 people each in Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Britain, Canada, Chile, China, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Italy, Kenya, Lebanon, Mexico, Nigeria, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Russia, South Korea, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates and the United States between Nov. 3 and Jan. 16. The margin of error in each country ranged between plus or minus 3.1 percentage points and plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.

278 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:01:03am

Good Morning Y'all from a chilly (40 degrees and windy) but sunny and blue skied Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine day?

279 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:01:43am

Understanding The Enemy


It is quite evident that there are many who do not understand the nature of our enemy. They seem to have the belief that defeating the Taliban and Al-Qaida will make terrorism go away. It certainly would be helpful but pure logic tells us it falls far short of that goal. Common sense dictates that one must understand what motivates these terrorists in order to implement the actions that will lead to elimination of their acts against us. From what we observe, there should be no doubt that their motivation is derived from the tenets of the Koran (Quran) which are followed by devout Muslims throughout the world. To illustrate this I provide the following excerpts from the Koran (Quran):

8.12 through 8.17 in "The Accessions" especially 8.17 "So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them, and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy), but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; surely Allah is Hearing, Knowing."
9. "The Immunity" virtually the complete Chapter, especially 9.5 "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful"

If one acknowledges what is evident it should be obvious that our enemy is an ideology and understanding that fact is necessary to do combat with them. It is an ideology that goes back to the 7th century and is what was behind the Crusades. Although reformation has taken place in other religions it is still to take place, as it must, with the Islamic religion. It is much more difficult because the tenets of the religion lie in a book that in itself conveys the need for religious conversion through force. It must also be understood that totalitarian governments in the mid-east use the Islamic ideology to not only further their own ambitions for power, but to hold on to the power they now possess

The very fact that Hezbollah and Hamas are terrorist groups that have the same ideology should bring realization of the fact that there is more than one single terrorist group involved. In fact, there have been eleven terrorist attacks on Americans between 1983 and 9/11/2001 conducted by several terrorist groups. Thus, it should be obvious that it is altering the ideology that must be addressed. However, altering an ideology requires changing that which is aiding and abetting it. We know that in those countries where democracy exists people thrive in the opportunities that this form of government provides. It seems that it would be sensible to use the approach of spreading democracy throughout the world as a means of changing the conditions that breed an evolving number of Islamic Ideologists (fundamentalists). With time it would be essential to encourage mid-east schools (Madrassas) to eliminate the teaching of Islamic Fundamentalism.

[SNIP]

280 christheprofessor  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:04:59am

Newsweek's Lorraine Ali and the Ghost of Walter Duranty By Dennis Prager

Publishers Weekly gave "Infidel" a prized "starred review," and wrote: "Her voice is forceful and unbowed -- like Irshad Manji, she delivers a powerful feminist critique of Islam informed by a genuine understanding of the religion."

A New York Times review described "Infidel" as a "brave, inspiring and beautifully written memoir."

But for Newsweek's senior writer Lorraine Ali, Hirsi Ali is no protector of women and gays in Muslim societies. She is, rather, a "bombthrower," and the book is "single-minded and reactionary," written to appease "right-wingers."

To characterize Hirsi Ali -- rather than the people she is fighting in the Islamic world at the risk of her life -- as a "bombthrower" is almost beyond belief.

281 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:06:23am

Yo Real, it's 8 degrees here.

282 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:07:38am

Paying off unions trumps airport security

I'm so happy we sent those evil Republicans a message last fall. Now we're less safe than ever!

Woo-hoo!

283 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:08:46am

#281 BabbaZee -8? As in eight degrees? WTH is going on? It's gotta be Al Bore's fault, somehow!
How are you doing today? Got any snow in the forecast?!

284 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:09:39am

Dinesh D'Souza might want to quit while he's behind.

285 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:11:30am
WASHINGTON - Fresh off their battle for the hearts of black Americans, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are about to go head to head for Jewish votes.

The leaders for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008 plan dueling receptions Monday when an influential pro-Israeli lobby group, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, holds its major Washington policy conference.


Damn,
Cant wait, Somebody please sneak in and use your cell phone to get me an illegal copy...


/Edwards will meet bloggers at Kos and try to fill their needs..
We need more liberal @!@$#$^%#@$%$%&%#$!@!$^&$@$@!^^$#@#@%$
leaders..

286 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:11:44am

Real
I am not so good , I had to go back on the steroid .. but at least it isn't going to snow

287 Miss Trixie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:12:34am

{Babblouey} Morning.

{songbird} Hiya, toots.

Mom now has both arms casted to the elbow, and can move about with her knee brace. She still cannot properly feed herself, and we are going to try to get some home help for her today.

Good heavens! Your poor {mom}. BTW, does she read LGF?

288 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:12:56am

#280 christheprofessor - I'll bet Newsweek suspects her of being the one to throw the koran into the toilet at Gitmo. Oh, wait, that never happended after Newsweek pulled it's version of the Kerry! LOL!
Certain Media outlets ought to be read only when you're seeking anything but the truth and Newsweek belongs there right alongside the NY Times (notwithstanding the book review they did of her work).
How are you doing this fine day?

289 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:14:59am

#286 BabbaZee - I'm glad it's not going to snow, but not so happy about your having to go back on the steroid again. Shit.
Well I hope it works it's wonders for you and that you'll feel better, SOON!

290 EE  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:15:04am

Where did CAIR get the money for buying so many copies of Carter's anti-Israel screed so that they could offer to donate the book to all US libraries? My guess is that the funding came from the Saudis.

It is known that Saudis have contributed to the Carter Center.

The Saudis have bought Jimmy Carter. Now they are making full use of their property.

291 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:15:21am

Russian Reporter Probed Iran Arms Sales Before Death (Update1)


March 6 (Bloomberg) -- Russian reporter Ivan Safronov was investigating state plans to sell advanced weapons to Iran and Syria when he fell to his death from a window in his Moscow apartment building March 2, his newspaper Kommersant said.

Safronov, a 51-year-old former colonel in the military, met with unidentified people at an international arms show in the United Arab Emirates last month and confirmed Russian plans to sell fighter jets and missile systems via neighboring Belarus to avoid being accused by the U.S. of arming rogue nations, Kommersant editors said in today's edition.

If I am remembering correctly, this would be something like the 12th Russian journalist to die by accident in the last year and a half.

292 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:17:13am

211 Kilgore Trout

The Lord really does work in mysterious ways!

293 christheprofessor  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:17:29am

#288 realwest

I think it's a twist on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing... In this case, it's the enemy (Ali) of the author's friend (radical islamists) because they, like the author, are Western Civ's enemy...

294 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:17:45am

#291 BabbaZee 3/6/2007 06:15AM PST

If I am remembering correctly, this would be something like the 12th Russian journalist to die by accident in the last year and a half.

Whats sad is Putin is doing it at an accelerated rate since no one cares. Pretty damn pitiful that journalists dont even care about their fellow journalists being knocked off.

295 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:18:12am

Yo Miss Trix

296 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:18:24am

Jammie I wonder how many times over the years Putin has pulled up that Bush picture and article and just laughed his ass off? It's probably hard for him to not laugh hysterically every time he talks to Condoleeza Rice or Bush.

297 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:19:07am

Good morning lizards,

I love the smell of cloak & dagger in the morning...

The Vanishing Iranian General: Did He Leave or Was He Taken?

Iran’s dep. defense minister for eight years up until 2005 - and before that a prominent Revolutionary Guards General, Ali Reza Asquari, 63, has not been seen since his disappearance in mysterious circumstances in Istanbul on Feb. 7.

The missing general has been identified as the officer in charge of Iranian undercover operations in central Iraq, according to DEBKAfile’s intelligence and Iranian sources. He is believed to have been linked to – or participated in - the armed group which stormed the US-Iraqi command center in Karbala south of Baghdad Jan. 20 and snatched five American officers. They were shot outside the Shiite city.

An Middle East intelligence source told DEBKAfile that the Americans could not let this premeditated outrage go unanswered and had been hunting the Iranian general ever since.

298 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:20:13am

294 Elric 14th....I learned that at jammie's blog.

Excellent work Jammie, excellent.

299 Miss Trixie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:20:42am

{realwest} Morning *smooch*

How is everyone this fine day?

Have you ever seen a human popsicle?

:P

300 songbird  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:21:18am

#287 Miss Trixie

Mom will be ok, but is kind of helpless at the moment. She does not read LGF as she is pre-computer technology.

My brother and I are trading off care of her, and our sister will be here this weekend. Exciting times!

301 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:22:25am

#298 funky chicken 3/6/2007 06:20AM PST

294 Elric 14th....I learned that at jammie's blog.

Excellent work Jammie, excellent.

Lizards are better journalists than "real" journalists"

302 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:22:56am

#291 BabbaZee - Close! IIRC this was posted out here yesterday and over at JammieWearingFool's blog and he make's number 14.
Sometimes; ok a LOT of the time I think the world has lost it's collective marbles.

Gotta get some coffee, BBIAM.

304 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:26:00am
305 Sponge  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:26:05am
#248 JammieWearingFool 3/6/2007 05:34AM PST

shug,

Bartman has relocated to an undisclosed location in Florida, where bad people go to blend into the woodwork.

Stupid Bartman prevented the Yankees from slapping the Cubs around in the 2003 World Series.


You're kidding, right? Bartman had NOTHING to do with the Cubs CHOKE FEST in the 2003 playoffs. He wasn't the only one to reach for the ball, just the one that happened to get HIT by it. That and he had nothing to do with the subsequent ERRORS committed by the infield in the next several at bats that started their downfall. A championship team overcomes and seals the deal......the Cubs just CHOKED. Saying Bartman cost them the world series is like saying Buckner cost the Red Sox something......when it was ONE PLAY out of ONE GAME, when there was still ONE MORE game to play.

yeesh........

306 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:26:19am

I guess that KGB trained em up good. What's the Russian word for sucker?

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

307 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:26:29am

I read this passage this morning, about a war almost a hundred years ago...

"They were weak in material resources, and even after success (of the Arab Revolt) would be, since their world was agricultural and pastoral, without minerals, and could never be strong in modern armaments. Were it otherwise, we should have had to pause before evoking in the strategic centre of the Middle east new national movements of such abounding vigour." - T.E. Lawrence, The Seven Pillars of Wisdom

Hmmm...

308 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:27:38am

300 songbird sorry to hear about your mom. She's not gonna be a happy camper for a while

309 vxbush  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:28:23am

Quick hello to my scaly friends; work is going to be crazy today, but I had to stop in long enough to salute you.

[raises morning tea]

310 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:29:23am

Barricades at the Serail

The Serail is one of the most beautiful buildings in Beirut. Its stately arches and imposing mass convey both authority and permanence — the Serail was built centuries ago to serve as the seat of Ottoman rule here. It was once the anchor of a stable and peaceful state — and maybe one day will be that again.

But today, the Serail hangs in the balance of a political struggle that has paralyzed Lebanon. At night, which is when I saw it, a menacing spotlight illuminates the windows of Prime Minister Siniora’s offices. It is coming from outside the barricades that ring the government compound. Just feet from the outer band of razor-wire is the Hezbollah tent camp. Shiite music can be heard blaring from amplifiers inside the camp (it has the redeeming quality of being melodious and soothing), alternating with the steady voice of Lord Hassan Nasrallah. Hundreds of tents strong, filling up the parking lots and highway underpasses in the neighborhood, the Hezbollah camp has some of the silliness of an ANSWER protest or even a Pfish concert. Posters of Ché Guevara are as common as those of Nasrallah — even though pretty much the only things those two might ever agree on is their disdain for homosexuals.

What’s not silly is that all these people are armed — and heavily armed.

[CHOP]

311 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:29:31am

#297 Kenneth

The Vanishing Iranian General: Did He Leave or Was He Taken?

An Middle East intelligence source told DEBKAfile that the Americans could not let this premeditated outrage go unanswered and had been hunting the Iranian general ever since.

Let my people go.

312 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:30:14am

Muslims try to change Islamic killing machine
'To live in the Middle East and say what we're saying is a death sentence'

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
Posted: March 6, 2007
2:10 a.m. Eastern


By Art Moore
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – A group of reformists from Muslim societies who have become accustomed to death threats upped the ante yesterday with a declaration they hope will spark a popular movement across the Islamic world to "fight back" against fundamentalist interpreters of the faith.

Secularists such as Ibn Warraq, Nonie Darwish and Irshad Manji helped formulate the "St. Petersburg Declaration," which seeks to do no less than eliminate traditional understandings and practices of Islam that conflict with universally accepted human rights.


[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

So in otherwords, destroy the traditional tenants of Islam. Might as well convert since you arent real Muslims anyway.

313 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:30:52am

Founder of ex-Muslim group threatened

COLOGNE, Germany, Feb. 23 (UPI) -- The founder of a group in Germany for former Muslims has sought police protection after receiving death threats.

Mina Ahadi, a native of Iran living in Cologne, said about three dozen people have joined the Central Council of Ex-Muslims.

"I happened to be born in a Muslim family, and I have decided not to be a Muslim," she told the magazine Focus.

Ahadi said she and other members of the group have been "terrorized" and have received death threats, most of them sent via e-mail.

In many Muslim countries, people who abandon the faith face the death sentence under Sharia law.

Ahadi said she hoped to represent the interests of former Muslims who do not practice the religion. She chose the name as a play on the Central Council of Muslims, which has about 800,000 members and is the largest Islamic group in Germany.

314 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:31:54am

311 LOL

315 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:32:49am

#311 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Come closers, Mahmoud, I want to show you something....
;~}

316 Axiom  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:33:19am

CAIR has "news brief" that links to the "Guerilla News Network".
[Link: www.cair.com...]

317 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:33:40am

Greets and saluts from the frigid NYC metro area. Bundle up out there since the wind chills are well below freezing. Al Gore must have been in town recently since this has got to be the Gore Effect in action.

By now, you've all probably heard that Congress is vowing to investigate the Walter Reed mess. Here's a newsflash for Congress. We don't need another investigation. We - and the military need action.

Walter Reed was supposed to be shut down by BRAC in 2005 and yet that tiny little detail is missing from most reports. Also missing from those reports is another tiny detail - one in which reports by the likes of big media outlets were trumping military health care as the wave of the future because it was better than traditional health care.

You can't have it both ways. Either it's better or it isn't. But the situation at Walter Reed was made worse because of the decision to move and combine the facility with the one down the road; the Naval Hospital. Between now and the point when the move is complete, care is apparently suffering.

319 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:34:35am
#313 BabbaZee 3/6/2007 06:30AM PST

Founder of ex-Muslim group threatened

I dont get it, KT said Muslims are just like you and me.

320 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:35:09am

#311 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

That's some nic you got there, dude!

321 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:36:24am

The Carbon Offset Scam

The willingly gullible are lapping it up. Plant a tree and fly across the globe guilt-free.

322 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:36:29am

#297 Kenneth - Morning to you! That's, to say the least, an intriguing story. Just wish the source was something more, ah, consistent, than Debka.

323 christheprofessor  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:36:30am

Heh... I love claymation...

324 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:36:55am

#285 ibmkeyboard

Hillary's speech:
"Oy Gevalt! Vos machts du? You know ven I vas a kit, a vummin couldn't be presadent. Dat vas unpossible, sooner a liddie yiddle could become presadent den a vummin, but gottinue, today..."

325 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:37:31am

U.S. envoy in Kenya warns of terror threat

By MALKHADIR M. MUHUMED, Associated Press Writer
Tue Mar 6, 6:14 AM ET


NAIROBI, Kenya - The U.S. Embassy said Tuesday it has been alerted to a possible terrorist threat targeting this month's world cross-country championships in Kenya.



The embassy released a statement saying the threat was coming from "alleged extremist elements."

"The U.S. Embassy is also aware of public statements by leaders of Kenya's Coastal Muslim community threatening to disrupt, through unspecified means, the World Cross Country Championship if the government of Kenya does not satisfy various demands," the statement said.


[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

remember, Muslims are jsut like you and me

326 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:38:35am

sponge 305,

Dude, it's sarcasm. Don't blow a gasket.

327 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:38:44am

#319 Elric66

I dont get it, KT said Muslims are just like you and me.


If you want to post to Kilgore
post to him,
don't use a post to me as a proxy-prod please, thank you.

328 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:39:26am

#299 {Miss Trixie} Good Morning and *smootch* back at you! Nope, never seen a human popsicle, though I've played one a time or a dozen when I lived in NYC, does that count? LOL!
Other than being frozen, how are y'all this morning?

329 Geepers  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:39:45am

Elric66 (#312),

So in otherwords, destroy the traditional tenants of Islam. Might as well convert since you arent real Muslims anyway.

Convert to what?

330 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:40:19am
331 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:41:25am

#330 ploome hineni 3/6/2007 06:40AM PST

258 Elric66 3/6/2007 05:38AM PST

thanks Elric, reading it now

Anytime Ploome

332 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:41:26am

Yo,PlllllloooOOOooome.

333 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:41:37am

Bubba Zee

Good morning.

What's with the steroids? You pumpin' iron again?

334 Daisy  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:41:46am

Dear Dhimmies,

We hope your patrons have by now memorized "Peace, Not Apartheid". We have found those who enjoy that item also want to read the koran. Watch for your complimentary copy in the mail. This promotion bought and paid for to you by our slave masters, the Saudis.

Mecca lekka hi, mecca hiney ho,

CAIR

PS .. Keep in mind at all times what Allah ordered us to do to the Libraries at Alexandria .. We want optimal positioning for these companion books: Front row and center .. or else.

335 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:42:57am

Six killed in southern Thailand

SUSPECTED Islamic militants have shot dead six people in Thailand's restive Muslim-majority south, police have said.

A 21-year-old Buddhist government security guard was shot and killed in a public phone booth late Monday in Yala, one of three insurgency-torn southern provinces bordering Malaysia, police said.


[Link: www.news.com.au...]

336 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:43:01am
337 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:43:05am
338 songbird  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:43:12am

funky chicken....you are right, but we'll make the best of it.

Must go and rehearse the kids now. Bye

339 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:43:51am

#254 songbird - Geez your poor mom! She's lucky to have family to take care of her, though professional at home nursing help won't hurt either!
Sure hope she heals fast.
Best wishes and prayers going up for her and for you.

340 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:44:50am

Thanks for the snappy tune, Babba!

Three weeks ago a handful of reporters at an international press junket here for the Warner Brothers movie “300”, about the Battle of Thermopylae some 2,500 years ago, cornered the director Zack Snyder with an unanticipated question.

“Is George Bush Leonidas or Xerxes?” one of them asked.

The questioner, by Mr. Snyder’s recollection, insisted that Mr. Bush was Xerxes, the Persian emperor who led his force against Greek’s city states in 480 B.C., unleashing an army on a small country guarded by fanatical guerilla fighters so he could finish a job his father had left undone. More likely,... Mr. Bush was Leonidas, the Spartan king who would defend freedom at any cost.

No surprise here. The Left hates this movie, which depicts a small band of warriors willing to defend Western Civilization against the Eastern horde.

341 christheprofessor  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:45:12am

#324 M. Bensson-Levi

Excellent! I was gonna do something like that myself, but I couldn't get the accent right "on paper"...

342 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:46:21am

Thanks, guys. I learned about that 14th Russina journalist at The Blotter, which has been turning up some interesting info of late.

Charles has that linked up above with the news sources and blog links.

What I find disturbing is there isn't global outrage from other news folks. The slightest criticism of news agencies in this country by anyone in government and the MSM is apoplectic.

Russian journalists are shot in this country and tossed out window over there and you hear the crickets chirping.

343 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:46:42am

317 lawhawk Let me help with the second dilemma: military healthcare SUCKS. The hospitals are old and ugly and not very clean. You don't get to choose your "primary care manager" or to whom they refer you for specialist care. You wait and wait and wait, or just get blown off when you bring issues to their attention.

My personal horror story: my daughter had terrible reflux as a baby. It started when she was a couple of weeks old...projectile vomiting her whole feeding, waking up choking and gasping at night, dropping lower an lower on the growth charts, didn't hit development benchmarks like being able to hold up her head, turn over, sit up, etc. Her head was 125th percentile, total body weight dropped to 10th percentile by 7 months of age. The military pediatricians? Told me to turn off the little speaker thing by the crib so I wouldn't wake up every time she woke up choking in her bed. Told me I was crazy, etc.

Finally on a trip home to visit my parents I found a pediatrician who took Champus (it's now TRI-CARE) and took my daughter in. She took one look, listened to symptoms, had her try to sit alone etc. In a 10 minute visit she ordered a CAT scan of the brain at the local children's hospital, while assuring me it was probably just reflux, but we needed to check for hydrocephalus or tumor.

I brought the (normal) CAT report back to the mil pediatrician who SHOUTED at me, and SHOUTED that this doc would have been FINED by an HMO blah blah.

344 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:47:33am

#333 M. Bensson-Levi
Hahahha...no..
there's a swelling problem since the organ loss so sometimes I have to go on a course of steroids.

Bah.

/forget that crap and dig this

345 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:48:01am

PIMF: Russina = Russian

346 rcris5  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:48:38am

Will Jimmy's book be kept next "Mein Kamf?" Or, the new, just out, modernized edition "Elders of Zion?"

347 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:50:08am

#341 christheprofessor

...I couldn't get the accent right "on paper"...

It's a rare gift, given to those of us born on All Souls Day.

348 Sponge  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:50:17am
326 JammieWearingFool 3/6/2007 06:38AM PST

sponge 305,

Dude, it's sarcasm. Don't blow a gasket.


I know....just a reaction being FROM Chicago and a closet die-hard Cubs fan....I have grown weary of the 'over the top sports guy' and tend to lash out occasionally.....my apologies.

349 dll2000  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:50:32am

Great LGF is working this morning, but I cant get on AmericanThinker or Townhall.

350 jehu  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:50:58am

Silky Pony now speaks for Jesus:

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (AP) -- Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards says Jesus would be appalled at how the United States has ignored the plight of the suffering, and that he believes children should have private time to pray at school.

Edwards, in an interview with the Web site Beliefnet.com, said Jesus would be most upset with the selfishness of Americans and the country's willingness to go to war "when it's not necessary."

Silky Pony Speaks

And Al Gore obviously is the Oracle for the goddess Gaia. I think I am detecting a pattern emerging from Dems...what is it now? Don't tell me, no...not the hypocrisy, too easy. Something....yes, I have it, they are the new pantheon of the gods, their Oracles. Hillary, obviously a spokesperson for the gods...all of them. We are soooo blessed!

351 christheprofessor  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:51:13am

#342 jwf

Beyond that, if a journalist accidentally gets a scratch from US fire while covering the jihadis in Iraq or elsewhere, the MSM goes ballistic claiming the US military is deliberately targeting journalists...

352 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:52:23am

----con't----- After that I tried to find an off base pediatrician to use. The offbase peds wouldn't take any infants who had been born at the base hospital! Mind you, this was in a town with a heavy medicaid population so it wasn't the military insurance compensation.

It was only through civilian pediatricians that I learned that reflux is thought to be a SIDS cause....and that they should have provided a monitor for my daughter, among other things.

353 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:52:41am

#322 realwest

I am very curious to find out what happened to this fellow. Ledeen speculates that he defected, Debka, that he was kidnapped. Maybe the NYT & Amnesty International will start campaigning for his release?

On a related story,

Small But Important Steps on Iran, Hezbollah and Argentina

Interpol...has finally taken the necessary step of issuing red notices, the equivalent of international arrest warrants, against five senior Iranian and one senior Hezbollah official for the 1994 bombing of the Jewish community center in Buenos Aires. It was one of the worst acts of Islamist terrorism in the Western hemisphere. Interpol has mediated a long dispute between Argentine and Iranian officials over the releasing of the red notices since Argentina requested them last year.

In the end, Interpol agreed to request the arrest of several senior Iranian intelligence officials-including the former commander of the Quds Force, the former minister of intelligence and security, the former commander of the Guardians of the Revolution and two embassy employees-along with Imad Fayez Mughniyah, the chief of Hezbollah's exterior military apparatus.

However, the Interpol ruling was not a complete victory for Argentina. The international body ruled that no red notices should be issued for former president Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, who currently chairs Iran’s State Expediency Council and is deputy chair of the Assembly of Experts.

It also ruled against issuing a red notice for Ali Akbar Velayati, former Iranian Foreign Minister, who is currently the chief foreign policy advisor to Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

354 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:52:48am
355 christheprofessor  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:53:02am

#347 M.Bensson-Levi

But.... but.... that's the day I was born.....

356 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:54:12am

Good morning all.

357 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:54:18am

324 M. Bensson-Levi ROFLOL

358 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:55:43am

Ask me about technology. No more politics. I have returned to what I love and know best - inventions!

Remember: frequent computer crashes happen because people press the W key too much. Avoid it at all costs! That key had been removed from all White House keyboards on my secret orders! Every time you press a W key George W Bush knows what you're thinking... And don't listen to static in your phone line - you never know who may be playing with your brain. A lot of folks who I know did that wound up voting for W. So there.

Did you know that the new free Laika the Space Dog Browser (aka Firefox in non-socialist sectors) allows you to send email without having to stick a stamp to the monitor?

- Al Gore, People's Inventor


[Link: www.thepeoplescube.com...]

359 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:56:11am

There are no words to describe this man, no words other than "simply evil"

BRIDGEPORT, Connecticut (AP) -- Police say a man repeatedly stabbed his teenage wife, then gave the knife to his toddler son and told him: "Now you stab Mommy."

Fermin Rodriguez, 21, attacked his 17-year-old wife Sunday night, after accusing her of cheating on him, police said. He slashed and stabbed her multiple times, then handed the knife to his 2-year-old son and told him to stab her, police said.

Police would not say whether the boy did as his father said.

Rodriguez was charged with first-degree assault, first-degree reckless endangerment, first-degree unlawful restraint and threatening. He was being held on $350,000 bond.

His wife, Keyschla Rodriguez, was taken to a hospital for treatment of stab wounds to her chest, face, arms and legs. Her condition was unavailable Tuesday morning.

Of course, in another part of the world, this crime would be considered "honorable".

360 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:56:41am
361 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:56:42am

Yo!

Via Mark Steyn...

According to the Daily Times (Pakistan), European Union and UK air safety officials are trying to muscle Pakistan into buying - specifically - Airbus aircraft, under threat of denying landing rights to existing Pakistan International Airlines aircraft due to "safety" issues.

362 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:57:03am

Saint Teddy's Day is around the corner, make use you wear the right attire. :-)


[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

363 Endangered in MASS  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:57:56am

Jammie and Sponge

It's not like he pulled a Grady.

P.S. I did blow a gasket over that one.Oh! The pain!

364 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:58:56am

350 jehu It's frightening that I have no choice but to support Hillary for dem candidate for president. Obama the inexperienced empty suit (which frightens me more than his socialism or possible muslimness as that is what has gotten GW Bush in so much trouble), the Goreicle (shudder), or the Silky Pony (28,000 square feet, private rec center, acres of lovely grounds....is he planning to open a swanky orphanage or something?).

God help us all.

/no, I don't vote in the dem primary, but if it's close to Obama getting the nomination I will

365 Dustoff-507  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:59:02am

Morning all, just a meer 24hrs left of my 48hr shift. Yahoo!

Hope all is well and trying to stay warm.

Realwest & Miss Trixie. Special hello to you. (-:

366 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:59:40am

#317 lawhawk - Good Morning! Walter Reade's problems stem, to some degree, from being part of BRAC.
But only to a point. Veterans' health care in this country is a bad joke in most places, although I've gotten good reports from some places (like Texas) the NYC VA simply SUCKS and it has for at least 20 some odd years now.
AND I'm tired of everyone (so far, at least) blaming Bush.
Yes, the buck stops with Bush; the VA is part of the Exective Branch and he should have known about this loong before now. But both houses of Congress have "oversight" committe's for Veterans Affairs and they're buried in this mess up to their collective eyeballs.
I don't remember anyone holding up the military health care system as a model for anything, but the Veteran's Health care, as I said, SUCKS.
And although I lay the most recent problems (or failure to fix decades long problems) at the feet of Republicans (we did control both the White House and both houses of Congress for some six years or so) this is truly a bi-partisan fuck up.
Some of these very real people, many of them your (collectively, I mean!) neighbors, these veterans, NEED dependable, up to date and reasonably available Veteran's care and they arent' getting it. And I think both Repubs and Dem's are responsible.
Over the years I've personally written to and had sit-down meetings with some appropriate members of Congress and been told that they know the VA is broken and received numerous promises that it'd be fixed, all to no avail.
The American People have to speak up and say THIS ISN"T RIGHT - Take care of our veterans, because without them they're wouldn't be a United States of America.
We all ought to write to our personal congresscritters and let 'em know this.
Steps off soapbox and pulls it away.........but not far away.

367 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 4:59:56am

Get ready for Vice-President Rice,

Will a blood clot force Cheney to step down?

Dick Cheney has been diagnosed with a blood clot in his left leg, leading to speculation he will be forced to resign as U.S. Vice-President.
368 Geepers  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:00:54am
WASHINGTON (AP) - Juror notes in the CIA leak case suggest some jury room confusion about what exactly former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby is accused of doing.

LOL. Talk about making your case.

But then I guess it stands to reason. Fitzgerald couldn't boil it down to what his case was, because even if it were true, lying to a reporter isn't a crime.

369 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:01:47am

359 Kenneth a 17 year old girl had a 2 year old son?

Are we sure this loser's name isn't "Vermin" not "Fermin"

370 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:02:08am

#367 Kenneth 3/6/2007 06:59AM PST


Get ready for Vice-President Rice,


Speak thee not the evil imprecation!

371 solomonpanting  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:02:26am

CAIR's...mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam...

Careful what you ask for. That will only lead to greater disgust, shock, and revulsion. For examples, see any of the previous gazillion stories of typical Islamic behavior by Muslim individuals and governments. That would be one story for every Muslim worldwide.

372 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:03:06am

#368 Geepers:

I feel quite confident that eventually this jury will find Libby GUILTY of jaywalking without a license. He'll have to pay twenty-five dollars and pick up the garbage.

373 Miss Trixie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:03:13am

realwest

Other than being frozen, how are y'all this morning?

I really can't complain. I feel good and look even better.

:D

374 Geepers  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:03:45am

christheprofessor (#351),

You mean you believe those incompetents in the military over Eason Jordon?

375 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:04:08am

#370 BabbaZee 3/6/2007 07:02AM PST

#367 Kenneth 3/6/2007 06:59AM PST

Get ready for Vice-President Rice,

Speak thee not the evil imprecation!

Maybe she can do less damage as VP then SOS.

376 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:04:53am

#344 BabbaZee

Knew what it was after the third note. You are definitely a mentat courtesan. Without delving into inappropriate areas(too much) I am quite certain that you were one hell of a hot honey in days gone by...more like a dozen hot honeies. Not to imply that those days are over, just spaced slightly farther apart.

Hope you feel better soon...and the stuff don't put hair on your chest.

377 Buckeye Abroad  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:04:56am

Dangerous burglars cannot be named

Police have warned householders to watch out for three convicted burglars, but cannot issue descriptions of the men for fear of breaching their human rights.

Officers believe that the trio - described as prolific criminals - will go back to their old ways on their release from prison and have told residents in west Suffolk to keep windows and doors locked.

Considering the lack punishment and high recidivism in the UK, thats probably just a matter of time.

Up to 30 people 'planned' killing of teenager

The weapon used to kill him is a Mac 10 machinegun, police have now disclosed.

Nice gun ban you got in place. Effecitve (at making the law abiding population victims).

Socialism kills.

378 coz  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:05:01am

Good Mornin' All!

{hug} for the mighty fine ladies at LGF

[mangrunt] at the fellas

What's the word this AM?

379 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:06:20am

So now that Hillary is speaking with a Southern accent, and the Silky Pony is channelling Jesus, this is the perfect time for the GOP to unveil its "Northern Strategy", and angle for the vote of the latte-sipping East and West Coast crowd who are afraid of all those Democrat fundamentalists coming to power.

380 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:06:24am

The problems at Walter Reed are a preview of what's in store for all of us when "universal health care" becomes a reality.

381 Sponge  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:06:25am
367 Kenneth 3/6/2007 06:59AM PST

Get ready for Vice-President Rice,

Will a blood clot force Cheney to step down?

Dick Cheney has been diagnosed with a blood clot in his left leg, leading to speculation he will be forced to resign as U.S. Vice-President.


WOW! That is SPIN in ACTION. Way to go UK PRESS! ! ! He's on blood thinners and will just require a bit of monitoring. The only way he'll have to step down is if the clot moves and causes an embolism or stroke. Just more left wing journalism in action.

382 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:06:27am

#375 Elric66
Howd'ya reckon that?

383 Endangered in MASS  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:06:37am

M.Bensson-Levi

She and Obama can make their family Matzo Ball recipes to determine who get's the vote. Just thinking... how long do you think Hillary would have to stop facial hair removal in order appear Hassidic? She could definately grow a better beard than Obama.

384 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:06:43am

#343 funky chicken - I'm sooo sorry to hear about your daughter and your travails with the military/veterans "health care system" - how is she now?

I'm afraid Veteran's Health Care just isn't a sexy enough issue for most non-veteran Americans, which of course includes most of the MSM.

I wish Charles thought this was a significant issue - it definitely goes to troop morale, if for no other reason - to have at least one thread on it.

385 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:07:46am

#382 BabbaZee 3/6/2007 07:06AM PST

#375 Elric66
Howd'ya reckon that?

She wont be SOS, that in itself is a good thing.

386 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:09:42am

366 realwest It would be an easy fix and would probably save the government money. Just give VA patients the same health insurance that retired federal civilian workers get. I'd like the same insurance for my family too. The military should provide health care for active duty personnel when and where required (especially overseas), and for families in super remote locations (29 Palms, or Altus, OK come to mind) but otherwise just set us free to use the civilian practicioners and facilities. The facilities in particular are far, far better than any base medical facility I've seen in any reasonably populated place we've been stationed.

387 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:10:11am

367 Kenneth

Rice is next in line? I thought it was Pelosi.

388 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:10:26am

#376 M. Bensson-Levi

Not to imply that those days are over, just spaced slightly farther apart.

;~}

Hope you feel better soon...and the stuff don't put hair on your chest

Thank you - and no, thank GOD, it does not put hair on my chest....
or anywhere else!

389 Geepers  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:10:29am

Occasional Reader (#361),

Airbus is hurting. And could fail completely.

And so is Europe. They would do better not to encourage less traffic there.

390 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:10:44am

#377 Buckeye:

At least the perps can now be charged with a gun offense. Think of the deterrent effect!

/cough

And I have to note once again the lousy reporting when it comes to firearms:

The weapon used to kill him is a Mac 10 machinegun

Er, that would be sub machinegun.

It is popular with Yardie gangsters and is known as a “spray and pay” gun due to its rapid rate of fire and resulting inaccuracy.

And I think the word they're looking for is "pray". "Spray and pay" is what I do at the shooting range.

391 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:11:31am

#387 MandyManners 3/6/2007 07:10AM PST


367 Kenneth

Rice is next in line? I thought it was Pelosi.

[CLUNK]

392 solomonpanting  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:12:53am

I just saw a tv commercial lamenting the situation in Darfur, ending with a pic of the President and the narrator imploring "President Bush, won't you please stop the genocide in Darfur?"

I'm not minimizing the Darfur situation, but isn't this calling for unilateral action on the part of a certain redneck cowboy?

393 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:13:06am

#357 funky chicken

Always pleased to make someone laugh.

394 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:13:39am
#387 MandyManners 3/6/2007 07:10AM PST

367 Kenneth

Rice is next in line? I thought it was Pelosi.


It would be the same as how Ford became VP. I believe that Bush picks the new VP but needs Senate approval. Now if Bush and Cheney died at the same time, Pelosi becomes President

395 galloping granny  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:13:44am
#317 lawhawk 3/6/2007 06:33AM PST

Walter Reed was supposed to be shut down by BRAC in 2005 and yet that tiny little detail is missing from most reports. Also missing from those reports is another tiny detail - one in which reports by the likes of big media outlets were trumping military health care as the wave of the future because it was better than traditional health care.

Been wondering about that little omission myself lawhawk. There was a special on somewhere more than a year ago about Walter Reed being closed in favor of a brand new hospital that was being built.

Re military healthcare. from someone who has been there, done that and worked in the field, if you are talking about the delivery of critical care emergency services then our military medical is the best in the world. They founded emergency medicine and are at the fore of a huge number of advances on a regular basis.

On the other hand, if you are talking about delivery of routine services to the masses, that is an entirely different ballgame. Clinics are often held en masse - everybody with a given problem (say, pregnancy) shows up at a certain time on a certain day for assembly line, by the book processing. OK - though not very personal - if you are by the book and have no out of the norm problems. If you do have a problem - good luck. The chances are at least fair that the "doctor" you are seeing has little or no knowledge of your particular problem and even if he does, everything is done by written protocol. If X, then do Y. (To be fair, in that regard many HMO doctors are stuck with the same scenario - and your insurance company may enforce certain protocols even when you choose the doctor.)

The BEST medical care I have seen has been the Public Health Service on a couple of Indian Reservations. Much more willingness to go out of the way. Drawback: you might very well show up at 7 am and still be waiting to see somebody after lunch.

396 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:14:11am

Good Morning.

CAIR sucks.
Dems suck
Liberals suck.

And all Leftists are Traitors!

/ bringing back an 'oldie but goodie' with a new twist.

397 Random63  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:14:49am

Carter is not the only one bought off by the Saudis. The Bushes and many in our government and media from both sides of the political spectrum and in-between are also bought off by the Saudis. When 15 of the 19 hijackers are Saudi, the leader of Al Qaeda is from a prominent Saudi family, and the entire terrorist movement is financed by the Saudis, why did we attack Afghanistan and Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia? That is the question I would love to ask George Bush some day. Why didn't you wage war on the source of the war against our country? Why didn't you destroy Saudi Arabia? Saudi Arabia’s soldiers took common airliners and made them weapons of mass destruction and killed thousands of our citizens on our soil causing a larger loss of life than what we suffered at Pearl Harbor. Why does Saudi Arabia still exist nearly 6 years after that attack?

Saudi Arabia belongs in the number one spot of the “Axis of Evil” list with Iran second. Take away those two countries governments and religious leaders and you have removed 90 to 95% of the Muslim terrorists support in my humble opinion. If we had responded to their attacks the same way we responded to the Japanese attack, this war would already be over.

Be safe and be well all.

398 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:15:05am
Drawback: you might very well show up at 7 am and still be waiting to see somebody after lunch.

Please...that used to happen to me at Sloane-Kettering!

399 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:15:07am

#392 solomon:

but isn't this calling for unilateral action on the part of a certain redneck cowboy

Of course not! It's pointless whining, to the effect that genocide is only happening in Darfur because cold-hearted Bush is letting it happen. Any affirmative move by Bush to forcefully stop the killing would promptly be denounced as "imperialism" by these very same people. But you knew that.

400 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:15:21am
#392 solomonpanting 3/6/2007 07:12AM PST

I just saw a tv commercial lamenting the situation in Darfur, ending with a pic of the President and the narrator imploring "President Bush, won't you please stop the genocide in Darfur?"

I'm not minimizing the Darfur situation, but isn't this calling for unilateral action on the part of a certain redneck cowboy?

Yes it would.

401 Geepers  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:16:23am

Buckeye Abroad (#377),

So in Britain criminals "rights" trump everyone else's. Nice.

402 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:16:57am

391 BabbaZee

Need the smelling salts, dear?

403 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:17:00am

395 galloping granny

from the report last night that I read, the new one is within a few miles, and is a new(er) facility.

one of the things that made them shut down the red-tape infested Walter Reed.

Doesn't matter, though, that the Bush Administration has them slated with closing (If they were on the shut down list from the 2005 BRAC, why are they still open?). . . all that matters is that things aren't good there and it gives the MSM something to report.

The Dem Congress is doing nothing, so there are no stories from Congress for the MSM to twist.... and they gotta fill air-time with something other than anna nicole smith and britney spears... (every now and then... for a minute)

404 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:17:10am

384 realwest You know, she's fine now...my miracle baby I guess. She was quite distressed upon delivery (another long story) and has some ADHD behaviors, but is very intelligent and a tough little nut. It was our second civilian pediatrician who put the whole picture together for me when we first went to him when my daughter was a toddler. By that point she had a history of ear infections and upper respiratory crap....first visit with him, he took her history and ordered an upper GI with swallow to check her esphagus/stomach and put her on a special diet. She's going to have lots of heartburn her whole life and I need to repeat the upper GI occasionally to see if her esophagus shows damage at which point she'll have to take prescription stuff.

When my son was born and started showing similar symptoms, they immediately ordered an oxygen monitor for him to sleep in, and the old crusty doctor told me to put rice cereal in his bottle to help hold his food down.

If people haven't experienced both health systems, they really can't grasp the difference. I'd guess it's about the same as the difference between the socialized medicine hospitals and the hospitals the wealthy use in Great Britain.

405 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:17:51am

394 Elric66

Oops! My bad.

406 christheprofessor  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:18:36am

#373 Geepers

You mean you believe those incompetents in the military over Eason Jordon?

Yup.

I think it's natural to have a grain of scepticism when reading or listening to the MSM but I'm at the point that I assume what they produce, as relative the military, the US, foreign policy, conservatives, etc., is false unless they can prove otherwise. Sad, no?

407 Paco from Sefarad  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:18:45am

#244 funky chicken

235 paco Thanks! I barely understand US TV as I watch very little. So does Channel 4 usually offer things like this global warming doc for sale?

LOL!

Channel 4 isn't "US TV" either, it's British. Didn't you look at my link?
[Link: www.channel4.com...]

Channel 4 has offered Dispatches - Undercover Mosque, and others from the Dispatches series.

408 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:19:08am

#405 MandyManners 3/6/2007 07:17AM PST

394 Elric66

Oops! My bad.


NP. :-)

409 coz  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:20:20am

Anybody in here near the San Antonio TX area? I'll be there in a couple of weeks. And then again in May.

410 Sponge  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:20:33am
When 15 of the 19 hijackers are Saudi, the leader of Al Qaeda is from a prominent Saudi family, and the entire terrorist movement is financed by the Saudis, why did we attack Afghanistan and Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia?


Because they were operating ad nausium in Afganistan, not SA. They ran the gov't there, had numerous training camps there and was calling the shots from there. Attacking SA would've only disrupted some funding and caused long term effects on the global economy due to the oil that comes from that region. Remember, it's all about the oil. That's what the current war is supposed to be about, right?

411 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:20:53am

The "Peacemakers"
By Deborah T. Bucknam
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 6, 2007

On March 12, 1975, Democrat Rep. (now Senator and Presidential candidate) Chris Dodd from Connecticut stated on the floor of the U.S. House:

“The greatest gift our country can give the Cambodian people is not guns but peace. And the best way to accomplish that goal is by ending military aid now.” The American Congress cut off all military aid to Cambodia and South Vietnam.

This is what happened one month and five days later as a result of Chris Dodd’s and other Democrats’ “gift of peace”:

On April 17th, 1975 the Khmer Rouge, a communist guerrilla group led by Pol Pot, took power in Phnom Penh, the capital of Cambodia. They forced all city dwellers into the countryside and to labor camps. During their rule, it is estimated that 2 million Cambodians died by starvation, torture or execution. 2 million Cambodians represented approximately 30% of the Cambodian population during that time.


[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]


When Libs talk peace they mean genocide.

412 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:20:57am

#365 Dustoff-507 - Hey good morning my friend. How are you (other than tired, I mean!) this morning?
As a former Medic in RVN, you know probably better than a lot of us the problems (and good points) about military healthcare; and maybe Veteran's health care, too.
Got an opinion on either or both?

413 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:21:27am

404 funky

saddly it is. once again, when our government meddles in something, they just muck it up with red tape and stupidity.

414 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:21:28am

#388 BabbaZee

Well, I knew that it was too good to last. Nobody's perfect. I hate Edith Piaf! Can't stand the sound of her, or the thought! Must be all that maudlin French tear jerk, tragic crap...My mother loved her.

Edith Piaf...Molly Picon, on depressants.

415 Ma Sands  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:22:38am

#286 BabbaZee
Sorry about your health......but you know, snow might be good for it....bracing! :)
'Mornin', dear.......prayin' for you.

416 Buckeye Abroad  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:22:38am

#390 Occasional Reader

Er, that would be sub machinegun.

Made me think it was probably not a Mac 10. The .45 ACP round is not that available, compared to the 9mm, in Europe.

"Spray and pay" is what I do at the shooting range.

I also pray (that I hit the target and don't make an ass of myself in front of my friends).

417 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:22:43am

OR 361 Hmmmm so the Brits are going to force the Pakis to bail out Airbus and/but are rolling over on a corruption investigation for the Saudis to ensure that the Saudis buy a bunch of military jets.

If I were a Paki I'd start taking notes :-) Once that Airbus contract is signed it might just pay off for them.

418 newmelleman  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:22:44am

Global Warming Cooling Brothels

Brothel owners in Bulgaria are blaming global warming for staff shortages.

They claim their best girls are working in ski resorts because a lack of snow has forced tourists to seek other pleasures.

Petra Nestorova, who runs an escort agency in Sofia, said: 'We have hired students, but they are temps and nothing like our elite girls.'

The horror

419 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:22:46am

LOL

420 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:23:17am
421 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:23:30am

400 Elric66

"President Bush, won't you please stop the genocide in Darfur?"

So the genocide in Darfur is Bush's fault for not acting? The US was the first country to piblicly declare the atrocities of Darfur a "genocide". The UN, EU and Arab League have all refused to call it genocide and have each done what they can to block any serious attempts at stopping it.

All that has to happen for the genocide to stop is for the gov't of Sudan to order their troops & the militias to stop killing the people.

422 Geepers  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:24:09am

christheprofessor (#406),

Gosh, I don't know. If the rest of the military is run like their hospitals I'd have to think John Kerry was right.

423 BabbaZee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:24:30am

Morning Maw.

Gotta go


One last one for MBL

424 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:25:44am

412 realwest, galloping granny

Yes, the combat and acute care at military facilities is great, and they are the source of many advances that end up saving lives stateside as well.

They should just get out of dependent care altogether, except in remote locations where there isn't a civilian network worth using.

425 Semper Gumbi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:25:54am

#317 lawhawk

Walter Reed was supposed to be shut down by BRAC in 2005 and yet that tiny little detail is missing from most reports. Also missing from those reports is another tiny detail - one in which reports by the likes of big media outlets were trumping military health care as the wave of the future because it was better than traditional health care.

Actually, Walter Reed isn't scheduled for closure until 2011. 2005 is when the BRAC recommendations came out. All in-patient care is to be moved to Bethesda Naval Hospital, a much newer, more modern facility. Other activites presently being conducted at Walter Reed are to be moved to other military facilities.

Personally, this incident to me means they should accelrate the closing of Walter Reed - Despite the bill that Elanor Holmes Norton (Moon Bat-DC) has introduced to keep the hospital open.

And I beleive that the state of Veteran care in the US is the prime example of why we should NOT have universal health care managed by the government. They can't do it efficiently for a small population of veteran, what makes anyone think they could provide adequate, efficient health care for the entire population.

426 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:26:01am

#321 jammie wearing fool:
Ah, carbon offsets may be a scam, but it's one that can solve a whole variety of issues. North Korea for example - they've got a bunch of carbon credits that could use offsetting by the likes of the US. Just look at the satellite imagery if you don't believe me. Swap US carbon for money for the North Koreans never to produce anything - nuclear or otherwise, and presto chango - you've solved global warming and the US is greener than an Irish meadow in the springtime. /sarc

#343 funky chicken:
I'm so sorry to hear about your travails with the military health care system and hope that your daughter is doing much better. I expect many of those testifying before Congress will report similar situations to the one you went through.

I am not saying that BRAC is the sole reason behind the Walter Reed mess, but it does play a role - Walter Reed was kept open and realigned instead of closed, which is what these hearings may end up resolving because the situation is untenable on the Walter Reed campus.

The problem is that the situation with infrastructure is widespread and it would take a major and ongoing infusion of money to correct. That's not going to happen overnight.

realwest:
It was a few years ago that the media was holding up the newly reformed VA as a paragon of health care. They were pointing to the VA as the way of the future.

#368 geepers:
Heh! They're wondering what exactly is the burden of proof is, what exactly everyone said and their own recollections are not exactly adding up according to other reports. In other words, they're suffering from the very kind of problem that got Libby into trouble in the first place. Too much information, too many bits of complex information and an inability to keep it all straight - and that's with taking notes all the while.

Fitzgerald made a mess of this case from the get-go, and it is looking quite likely that Libby will not be the Fitzmas that the Lefties were looking for either.

427 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:26:14am

#383 Endangered in MASS

She could definately grow a better beard than Obama.

Much higher testosterone levels...but why should I state the obvious?

428 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:26:17am

Moes death cult claims another 90 victims
At Least 90 Killed in Attacks on Pilgrims in Iraq

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Two homicide bombers blew themselves up Tuesday in a crowd of Shiite pilgrims streaming toward a shrine south of Baghdad, killing up to 90 people, police said.

The coordinated attack happened on a main street in Hillah, about 60 miles south of Baghdad, said Capt. Muthana Khalid. More than 150 others were injured, he said.

Worshippers were heading to Karbala, 50 miles south of the Iraqi capital, before the holiday that marks the end of a 40-day mourning period after the death of the Prophet Muhammad's grandson.


Notice no quotes around the Pro Moe.

429 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:26:36am
#421 Kenneth 3/6/2007 07:23AM PST

400 Elric66

"President Bush, won't you please stop the genocide in Darfur?"

So the genocide in Darfur is Bush's fault for not acting? The US was the first country to piblicly declare the atrocities of Darfur a "genocide". The UN, EU and Arab League have all refused to call it genocide and have each done what they can to block any serious attempts at stopping it.

All that has to happen for the genocide to stop is for the gov't of Sudan to order their troops & the militias to stop killing the people.


Tell me about it. It was going on well before Bush even took office. What exactly do they want Bush to do? Why dont they take thier complaint to the UN that they think is the panacea for all the ills in the world?

430 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:26:54am

Here's the pistol I'm getting once I complete the CC permit class and background check.

431 X-ray  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:27:03am

OT
Old adage retuned for the Breck boys Jesus comment

People who live in giant mansions should not throw hyperbole.

432 Dustoff-507  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:27:05am

#412 Realwest

My friend, the VA sucks.

When I was still living in San Diego our own VA was in the news for it's many problems. (same as now)

I think it all comes down to goverment health care. )-:

433 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:27:08am

let me get this straight

I post a link showing -11ºC in the Big Apple, using 23 point font, and mention 6 inches (15 cm) of snow for Philadelphia tomorrow, and nobody has a comment.

Well, the El Niño is almost over, and 2007 looks to be another active hurricane season, so they'll be plenty more 20+ point font red, purple, green and gold posts.

This is a test of the Gulf Coast Hurricane Warning Thread Font Style. This is only a test. If this was a real hurricane approaching Mobile, AL on July 29, 2007, the colors would be more shocking, and the font size would be bigger

434 nonic  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:27:11am
Brothel owners in Bulgaria are blaming global warming for staff shortages.

They claim their best girls are working in ski resorts because a lack of snow has forced tourists to seek other pleasures.

Petra Nestorova, who runs an escort agency in Sofia, said: 'We have hired students, but they are temps and nothing like our elite girls.'

435 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:27:39am

#416 Buckeye:

Made me think it was probably not a Mac 10. The .45 ACP round is not that available, compared to the 9mm, in Europe.

I believe the Mac-10 is made both in .45ACP and 9mm.

436 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:29:09am
#428 Just_A_Grunt 3/6/2007 07:26AM PST

Notice no quotes around the Pro Moe.

Of course. The term terroism can be debated but everyone knows Mo was a prophet of God.


/

437 nonic  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:30:44am

#418 newmelleman

Sorry. Didn't see yours. :-)

439 newmelleman  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:31:35am

#434 nonic

jinx

:P

NMM

440 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:32:05am

429 Elric

The UN is only able to do the good that the United States does and funds.

most of hte rest of the UN's time and money is spent condemning the United States and Israel for existing.

441 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:32:33am

More reporters embrace an advocacy role

By Peter Johnson, USA TODAY

The "social journalism" that made Oprah Winfrey an international fairy godmother is the new rage in network and cable news, and it's expanding to other media.
Increasingly, journalists and talk-show hosts want to "own" a niche issue or problem, find ways to solve it and be associated with making this world a better place, as Winfrey has done with obesity, literacy and, most recently, education by founding a girls school in South Africa.


[Link: www.usatoday.com...]


Journalism is dead

442 Buckeye Abroad  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:33:21am

#390 Occasional Reader

And I have to note once again the lousy reporting when it comes to firearms:

As the .45 ACP isn't a popular round, compared to the 9mm, in Europe, it make me think it wasn't a Mac 10 either.

I get alot of astonished looks when aquaintances here find out I am a *gasp* gun owner. Pointing out the 2nd Amendment and the "why and what-fors" gets old quick.

443 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:33:28am

Duncan Hunter, while coming in third to Giuliani and McCain in a test vote in Greenville/Spartanburg, SC, was statistically tied.

I may have to donate some more $$ now that he is showing up as a real candidate. Romney did surprisingly poorly for as much money and organization he has.


World War 2 hero and test pilot Chuck Yeager supports Hunter!

November 20, 2006

To my Fellow Americans,

Congressman Duncan Hunter is the best candidate for President of the United States of America that I know - he has integrity, tenacity, courage, and diplomacy. He is intelligent and thoughtful, does his research, and acts on it.

I have known Congressman Duncan Hunter for over 35 years. Duncan served his country in the Army and is a Vietnam vet. In Vietnam, he served in one of the most dangerous outfits - the 173rd Airborne Brigade and the 75th Army Rangers.

Duncan Hunter is the former and very effective Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee and I am proud to be the Honorary Chair of the Congressman Duncan Hunter for President Committee.

Chuck Yeager

444 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:33:39am

#425 semper gumbi:
You're correct. I was imprecise with the dates. I'd noted on my own blog that the recommendation to realign/close WRAMC came down in 2005, with a closure date in 2011, which means that there was a gradual transfer of services and the infrastructure at WR was being neglected since the closure was going to occur sooner or later.

And, as you say, there are those who want to keep the facility open despite the archaic conditions of the infrastructure and that there are better and more modern alternatives.

445 Random63  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:33:50am

Re #410
I agree that Al Qaeda was operating openly in Afghanistan, but their funding and support still came from Saudi Arabia. To kill a cancerous tumor openly operating on the surface of the skin, you go deep to cut off its source, the blood vessels. Then the tumor dies. Might not be the best analogy, but the way I see it the Afghan government did not produce enough revenue to support Al Qaeda to the extent that they operated. That support had to come from the oil and money rich country of Saudi Arabia. That country and it's so called religion is the ultimate enemy that is waging war on us and has killed thousands of our countrymen.

This is just my humble opinion. I am in no way a expert or degreed professional in politics, history, or the military. Please feel free to disagree if you wish. I just try to look at the whole situation with the Muslim/Terrorist problem and keep coming up with one very common factor or underlying source, and that is Saudi Arabia.

Be safe and be well.

P.S. I think if we had retaliated by attacking Saudi Arabia right after 9/11 instead of Afghanistan, the disruption in the oil market would already be over now in my humble opinion.

446 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:33:59am

434 nonic

someone linked to that just a bit ago. What a hoot... Since Global Warming is the Republican's fault..... This is just more proof of the Religious Right trying to force its morality on hard working women!

*grins*

447 christheprofessor  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:34:01am

My sister works at a VA hospital. She started out with nine people in her area. After years of attrition (retirements, people moving on to other opportunities), she is down to just two people, doing the work of the original nine... No relief in sight....

448 Sponge  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:34:11am
I post a link showing -11ºC in the Big Apple, using 23 point font, and mention 6 inches (15 cm) of snow for Philadelphia tomorrow, and nobody has a comment.


I don't live up there, so I don't care. Therefore, no comment. There ain't shyte for weather going on down here in D/FW (70's and sunny with a 10-20 breeze for most of the week), so I'm ignoring the poor saps that are enjoying global warming.

449 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:34:14am
#440 LanceKates 3/6/2007 07:32AM PST

429 Elric

The UN is only able to do the good that the United States does and funds.

most of hte rest of the UN's time and money is spent condemning the United States and Israel for existing.

Its a useless organization. Seems its supporters think so too or they would be asking the UN to stop the genocide, not Pres Bush.

450 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:34:49am

If someone can prove that they are "Carbon Neutral" will the hookers give a discount?

Al Gore may finally be on to something!

*smirk*

451 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:35:00am

Good morning. I would just like to say that it is -26C here in Toronto today. Not only that, but it appears that the polar bear population in the arctic is thriving, and lots of green shrubbery and trees are growing and 'encroaching' on the tundra. Must be acid rain global warming global cooling CLIMATE CHANGE.

OT: A Little Adorable Boy Named Jihad

452 Geepers  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:36:05am

lawhawk (#426),

Fitzgerald has know from the very start that it was Armitage that told told everyone that Joe Wilson was the one spouting off his wife's CIA position. They have it on tape.

Fitzgerald was loving being big man on campus and living large on the Government's dime.

And boy are the kos kidz gonna be sad when they find out their dismal Fitzmas Libby doll has to be returned. They'll be screaming conspiracy before the jurors finish their courtroom steps interviews.

453 Miss Trixie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:36:38am

{Dustoff TCG™} Good morning. Please accept my best wishes and prayers for your ladyfriend and her son who is ill. I have not had the chance to express this to you before today. Can you divulge if the prognosis is positive?

454 Dustoff-507  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:36:48am

Realwest.

Most Mil hospitals were about the same way. In many ways run like basic training camp.
Just plain wrong!

And WE ALL remember Basic training. 0-:

455 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:37:32am

366 realwest: you said

Yes, the buck stops with Bush; the VA is part of the Exective Branch and he should have known about this loong before now. But both houses of Congress have "oversight" committe's for Veterans Affairs and they're buried in this mess up to their collective eyeballs.
I don't remember anyone holding up the military health care system as a model for anything, but the Veteran's Health care, as I said, SUCKS.
And although I lay the most recent problems (or failure to fix decades long problems) at the feet of Republicans (we did control both the White House and both houses of Congress for some six years or so) this is truly a bi-partisan fuck up.

The problem with Bush is that he wants to run everything like a CEO. That assumes that the folks running departments are competent or at least conscientious in carrying out their assignments.

From the little news blurbs I've heard, the money was reqested and approved. It was apparently not spent or was spent stupidly.....not a surprise coming from government.

It's encouraging that the Sec'y of the Army and a 2 star general had to quit because of this story. You can't run things like a corporation if you can't fire folks when they screw up big time....it looks like Bush just canned two folks.

Perhaps that's the source of the HUGE, HUGE problems at State Dept and CIA and FBI. Those folks probably can't be fired as easily.

456 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:37:33am
#445 Random63 3/6/2007 07:33AM PST

You have some good points. Afganistan did have to be hit first because AQ operated there. Eventually though we will have to deal with the fact its not nations that are at war with us but a 1400 year old cult that wont quit until the world is Islamic.

457 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:37:39am

447 ctp

that's because the money is tied up in the red tape that is far above your sister's level.

My dad sees it all the time. He's even been in a few mistakes because of it... there is another person with a name and SS# similar enough that they sometimes get mailed one another's appointment reminders and such.

458 haakondahl  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:38:08am

Found the signed version of the letter this thread refers to...

459 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:38:40am

Re: Bulgaria, prostitutes and global warming.

They claim their best girls are working in ski resorts because a lack of snow has forced tourists to seek other pleasures.

Petra Nestorova, who runs an escort agency in Sofia, said: 'We have hired students, but they are temps and nothing like our elite girls.'

OK, I'm almost 20 years removed now from my visits to Southeast Asia defending y'all from the Soviet Union, so my prostitute-fu is (and this is a good thing) weak, but I'd think if I was still into that kind of thing, I'd prefer the temps to the veterans.

460 Sponge  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:39:18am
Please feel free to disagree if you wish. I just try to look at the whole situation with the Muslim/Terrorist problem and keep coming up with one very common factor or underlying source, and that is Saudi Arabia.

On the contrary, I don't disagree with you at all. I was just throwing an attempt at answering your initial question as to why we didn't. Yes, SA funds a lot of US 'interests' and tends to cloud judgement. SHOULD we take action? Sure.....will we? Nope. Ain't gonna happen. Sucks, but dem's da facts.

461 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:39:23am

449 Elric

the UN isn't there to solve problems... it is there to order around the United States.... it is there so that pipsqueak countries like Lybia or Venezuela have the same say as the United states to order around United States military (under a blue helmet) and to squander United States funds on their own illegal and immoral acts.

it is international welfare, as effective as domestic welfare.

462 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:40:20am

Sponge, I had a tiny bit of frost on the windshield in the normally colder northern suburbs of Houston, and had a heavy frost yesterday.


So global cooling is effecting even us Texans.

463 galloping granny  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:40:34am
#422 Geepers 3/6/2007 07:24AM PST

christheprofessor (#406),

Gosh, I don't know. If the rest of the military is run like their hospitals I'd have to think John Kerry was right.

And others -

Military healthcare is superb - except when it is not. That is true anywhere of course. Two big holes in military health care are dependent care and transitional care between active duty & disabled veteran. If you are talking about keeping the American fighting man(woman) healthy & fit, then things are top-flight. If you're talking about emergencies, it could not be better.

Outside those two areas though, it is a bit like going to a podiatrist for dental surgery. We do not draft physicians, so you don't find too many pediatricians and ob/gyns working for the military. The pay is much better somewhere else.

Re the Vets, again that depends on where you are. The newish Vet Hospital in Tampa is superb. My Dad has been getting his care there for more than a decade and my sister the nurse & I (who keep very close tabs on things) would be hard put to find much to criticize. Those older Vets hospitals left over from the WWII/Vietnam era - not so much.

464 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:40:38am

affecting

465 Buckeye Abroad  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:41:17am

#401 Geepers

So in Britain criminals "rights" trump everyone else's. Nice.

Cherry Blair was unavailable for comment.

Its a shame about the UK. I do know several people leaving for good from there. Damn shame.

466 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:41:48am
467 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:42:02am

#461 LanceKates 3/6/2007 07:39AM PST

449 Elric

the UN isn't there to solve problems... it is there to order around the United States.... it is there so that pipsqueak countries like Lybia or Venezuela have the same say as the United states to order around United States military (under a blue helmet) and to squander United States funds on their own illegal and immoral acts.

it is international welfare, as effective as domestic welfare.

It was created to solve world problems but you are right that it what the UN does. It would be nice if our government would do something about it. Either quit or threaten funds unless it reforms. With Bolton getting the boot, neither will happen.

468 Dustoff-507  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:42:48am

#453 Miss Trixie

I haven't had a chance to learn anymore about Jay. He does have a central line to his heart because of the cancer problems.

Thanks you for your kind words. (-:
I'll let his mother know.

469 christheprofessor  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:43:08am

#451 WriterMom

That polar bear populations and flora thrive in warmer temps is no suprrse... Here's a link from an article at the American Thinker from January, where the author questions the automatic assumption that global warming is necessarily a bad thing:

The LCO suggests that a warmer world may well be more desirable than the one we have now. To go a step further, my research implied that the planet is in fact meant to be somewhat warmer than it is today, that the life-forms we see around us are in fact adapted to a warmer climate. The earth is, after all, stuck within a three-million-year glacial epoch whose origin and cause remain a mystery. (We're now in a brief "interglacial" - a warming period! - that began only 12,000 years ago and could end tomorrow.)

I brought this up with a friend, a noted NASA scientist -- who, due to the tenor of the times, shall remain nameless - and he responded, ‘Of course - there's more life at the equator than at the poles." (This, by the way, is a perfect example of how a capable scientific mind operates, an immediate, undistracted focusing on the most critical elements. It doesn't seem to work that way with the Greens' "mainstream scientists".)

470 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:44:12am

lawhawk,

Ah, carbon offsets may be a scam, but it's one that can solve a whole variety of issues. North Korea for example - they've got a bunch of carbon credits that could use offsetting by the likes of the US. Just look at the satellite imagery if you don't believe me. Swap US carbon for money for the North Koreans never to produce anything - nuclear or otherwise, and presto chango - you've solved global warming and the US is greener than an Irish meadow in the springtime. /sarc

I like your thinking.

471 Jeff S.  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:44:20am

As a sage lizardoid once pointed out on these pages, CAIR's agenda is revealed in the very words that comprise their acronym. Council on American-Islamic Relations; they are telling you right there that they consider America and Islam to be two separate entities. No taqqiyya required, it's just a straight forward statement of fact. There is us, and there is them, and we need to have "relations".

472 loppyd  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:45:24am

Good Morning all from the frozen tundra of Boston's North Shore.

As if the NY Times didn't have enough to worry about with their plummeting readership. Now one of their employees at the Boston Globe has been busted for plagiarizing.

Plagiarism suspension for Globe sports scribe

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. I dare say Coach Bill wasn't sad to read this news.

473 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:45:41am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Our biggest terrorism trial started yesterday

NINE terrorism suspects allegedly planning an attack in Sydney were so hell-bent on carrying out their jihad they pushed ahead with their plans even though they knew the authorities were watching them, the nation's biggest terrorism case was told yesterday.
Opening the committal hearing yesterday for the men who are accused of conspiring to construct explosive devices in preparation for a terrorist act, Crown prosecutor Wendy Abraham QC told the Penrith Local Court the men egged each other on towards an act capable of causing death and severe injury.
Ms Abrahams said the men all held extremist views and were motivated by their conviction that their religion was under attack and they must carry out a jihad to protect Islam. "Violence was the primary tool," she said.

Ms Abrahams told Magistrate Michael Price that the men were prepared to coerce and intimidate the Australian government and the public with violent acts of terror.

The crown case alleges Mohammed Ali Elomar, Mazen Touma, Abdul Rakib Hasan, Khaled Cheikho, Moustafa Cheikho, Khaled Sharrouf, Mirsad Mulahalilovic, Omar Baladjam and Mohammed Jamal all agreed to gain the capabilities to prepare for a terrorist act.

Great to watch the news and see a scumbag in full Islamic gear yell out Allu Akbar - scary stuff knowing there are many more of the same roaming free

474 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:46:19am

#429 Elric66

Recently Kofi visited a refugee camp in Chad where he listened sympathetically to the people while they told him of the attrocities they had witnessed. You could tell how touched Kofi was by the perfectly pathetic backdrop for his moral preening.

Later, Kofi got in his jet & flew to Paris, where, over a light dinner of fois gras & homard well matched with a nice crisp Chenin blanc, he was heard mumbling to himself,

"Darfur? Rwanda? Bosnia? ...mais, c'est rein."

475 galloping granny  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:46:45am
#447 christheprofessor 3/6/2007 07:34AM PST

My sister works at a VA hospital. She started out with nine people in her area. After years of attrition (retirements, people moving on to other opportunities), she is down to just two people, doing the work of the original nine... No relief in sight....

This is not just a problem at the VA - this is across the board at just about any hospital you walk into. You might notice the next time that the "nurse" no longer wears a tag that says RN or LPN or CNA - just "Nursing Staff" - because that "nurse" is very likely a 6 week aide, not a "nurse" at all.

The last place that almost anyone connected with medicine will go when they are anything short of the deathbed is to the "hospital." There is a reason that we all make thoroughly lousy patients & tend to self-diagnose/prescribe.

476 christheprofessor  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:46:46am

#457 lance

That could be part of it. In theory, the increased use of IT was supposed to take up the slack when people left. Hasn't worked out that way, though. For example, it's practically impossible for her to take a vacation or vacation day because somebody always has to be there (and she is the supervisor). So she works an awful lot of holidays, also...

477 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:47:02am

467 Elric

i'm a rabid radical religious righty, but my suggestion is to leave the UN, deport the ambassadors, turn the UN building into apartments and offices, then when the UN moves to france, everyone face east and fart at the same time.

478 Sponge  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:47:13am
#462 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades 3/6/2007 07:40AM PST

Sponge, I had a tiny bit of frost on the windshield in the normally colder northern suburbs of Houston, and had a heavy frost yesterday.


So global cooling is effecting even us Texans.


I haven't seen much frost up here, but I'm closer to the City than you are, I guess. I know my dad, who lives further north, sees frost about 3 times a week, still.

479 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:47:33am

#466 tfk

How sad, tfk. Do you reside in Archer City?

480 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:47:51am
#471 Jeff S. 3/6/2007 07:44AM PST

As a sage lizardoid once pointed out on these pages, CAIR's agenda is revealed in the very words that comprise their acronym. Council on American-Islamic Relations; they are telling you right there that they consider America and Islam to be two separate entities. No taqqiyya required, it's just a straight forward statement of fact. There is us, and there is them, and we need to have "relations".

Ive pointed out similar things. Islam and the West can not co-exist. It is them or us. I choose us.

481 Trumanite  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:48:32am

#451 WriterMom 3/6/2007 07:35AM PST

A Little Adorable Boy Named Jihad

Here's another adorable little "Jihad"

And here is how two others from the "tiny minority" expressed their "inner struggle"

482 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:49:17am

#426 lawhawk - thanks a lot for those links; especially the second one. I'll need time to digest Phillip Longman's article but can only say until I read it more carefully, that his study and conclussions run counter to the actual experience most veterans I know have experienced: VA hospitals DO have some excellent doctors and nurses and some offer exceptional quality care, particularly to recently medically discharged veterans.
But I have personally spoken to literally hunderds of other Vietnam Veterans and they're collective number one complaint, at least through 1992 which is the last time I was involved in any orgainized fashion with this issue, was the LACK of attentive, relatively quick care and the extraordinarily "red tape" nature of Veteran's Hospitals and programs, coupled with a number of what can best be described as "semi-professionals" in the non-hospital care aspects of VA Health Care. I'd wager that Walter Reed is merely the tip of the iceberg.

483 Random63  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:49:20am

"On the contrary, I don't disagree with you at all. I was just throwing an attempt at answering your initial question as to why we didn't. Yes, SA funds a lot of US 'interests' and tends to cloud judgement. SHOULD we take action? Sure.....will we? Nope. Ain't gonna happen. Sucks, but dem's da facts."

On that I agree with you Sponge. Our leaders will not do anything. I think that was the initial point I was making, no matter what side of the aisle they are on, the politicians and media will not name Saudi Arabia and its "religion" as the enemy and wage war on it. They are bought off way too much. The only way I ever really see this ending is when we finally find a alternate energy source that takes away the world's dependency from oil. Then Saudi Arabia will lose their influence and money. Of course, they and the oil companies will never allow another source of energy become mainstream.

Be safe and be well.

484 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:49:23am
485 easy  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:49:35am

realwest / Dustoff-507

I haven't spent much time in the VA hospital system, thank goodness, and while I'm sure there are many competent and dedicated doctors and nurses on staff, you get the staff you pay for. I seriously doubt the VA pay is competitive.

486 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:50:05am

Endangered in MASS,

Jammie and Sponge

It's not like he pulled a Grady.

P.S. I did blow a gasket over that one.Oh! The pain!

You at least enjoyed your sweet revenge the following year.

Besides, NESN came up with that absurd "What If..." show last year and the Sox actually won that game.

I didn't realize what they were doing with that show, but I was at an establishment on the Cape one night and that game was playing on the TV without sound and I was wondering why everyone seemd so interested in it. Later I saw Pedro walk off the hill and then the Sox celebrating. That was extremely low rent, but it got boffo ratings.

It's like down here when YES or SNY airs "classic" games. The Yankees and Mets are undefeated on those, wouldn't you know.

487 christheprofessor  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:50:09am

#475 gg

That is scary. Thanks for input.

Any thoughts on causes?

488 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:50:11am

If you are in the neighborhood...

BRIDGEWATER -- Jewish LIFE (Learning Is For Everyone) presents an evening with Ann Kirschner, author of "Sala's Gift, My Mother's Holocaust Story" 7 p.m. March 7.

Few family secrets have the power both to transform lives and to fill in crucial gaps in world history. But then, few families have a mother and a daughter quite like Sala and Ann Kirschner. For nearly 50 years, Sala kept a secret: She had survived five years as a slave in seven different Nazi work camps. Living in America after the war, she kept from her children any hint of her epic, inhuman odyssey. She held on to more than 350 letters, photographs, and a diary without ever mentioning them. Only in 1991, on the eve of heart surgery, did she suddenly present them to Ann and offer to answer any questions her daughter wished to ask. It was a life-changing moment for her scholar, writer, and entrepreneur daughter.

This program is open to the community and will be held at Temple Beth-El, 67 Route 206 South in Hillsborough, (908) 722-0674. The fee for the program is $15/person. This program is sponsored in part by Friends' Health Connection.

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489 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:50:20am
#474 Kenneth 3/6/2007 07:46AM PST

#429 Elric66

Recently Kofi visited a refugee camp in Chad where he listened sympathetically to the people while they told him of the attrocities they had witnessed. You could tell how touched Kofi was by the perfectly pathetic backdrop for his moral preening.

Later, Kofi got in his jet & flew to Paris, where, over a light dinner of fois gras & homard well matched with a nice crisp Chenin blanc, he was heard mumbling to himself,

"Darfur? Rwanda? Bosnia? ...mais, c'est rein."


Kofi was perfect for the job, the UN chose well.

490 Geepers  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:50:20am

galloping granny (#463),

I wasn't really suggesting anything other than you'll find people on both sides of the issue and that it's not all bad or all good. Like you said.

We do not draft physicians, so you don't find too many pediatricians and ob/gyns working for the military.

I know an ob/gyn who's worked for the military. If you see mommydoc posting, you can ask her about her experience there.

491 Dad 2 4  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:50:21am

Congressman Joe Sestak (D-PA) hires CAIR staffer....

[Link: www.militantislammonitor.org...]

492 shug  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:50:23am

Dear soon to be former library administrator,

there is only one book. You do not have it.
Please prepare for boarding.

Please submit

Sincerely,
CAIR

493 haakondahl  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:51:50am

#477 LanceKates

Face West, maybe?

494 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:52:00am

#459 Ed

In this particular field of human endeavor, I much prefer the enthusiasm of a gifted amateur to the work of a seasoned professional.

495 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:52:02am
496 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:52:09am

411 Elric Whoa great link.

Too bad Chrissy Mathews or Don Imus won't ask their buddy Senator Dodd about that inconvenient truth.

497 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:52:10am
#477 LanceKates 3/6/2007 07:47AM PST

467 Elric

i'm a rabid radical religious righty, but my suggestion is to leave the UN, deport the ambassadors, turn the UN building into apartments and offices, then when the UN moves to france, everyone face east and fart at the same time.

The only reason Im reluctant to leave is because of of our veto. Now Israel has no reason to remain.

498 loppyd  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:52:26am

Here we go again.

Natick High School drops Indian-themed sports nickname

NATICK - The school committee in Heisman Trophy winner Doug Flutie’s home town narrowly voted to stop using the nickname Redmen to refer to the school system’s sports teams because the term can be construed as offensive to American Indians.

499 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:53:31am

#488
OOPS... that already happened.

I need to read the dates more closely. I bet it was an incredible story.

500 Dustoff-507  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:53:37am

#475 Granny

You might notice the next time that the "nurse" no longer wears a tag that says RN or LPN or CNA - just "Nursing Staff" - because that "nurse" is very likely a 6 week aide, not a "nurse" at all.

WOW Granny, where is this at? In WA state our nurses all wear badges that let you know who they are. Plus the clothes they wear point out who is who.

Yes your right on the shortage of Nurses though. )-:
The ER in our area is swamped 20 hrs out of a 24 hr day.

501 Geepers  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:54:12am

Buckeye Abroad (#465),

Cherry Blair was unavailable for comment.

And will Cherry and Tony even stay in the UK? I heard they've got some nice digs in Australia lined up.

502 Buckeye Abroad  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:54:21am

#435 Occasional Reader

I believe the Mac-10 is made both in .45ACP and 9mm.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it's a 9mm then its a Mac-11. Wouldn't want either myself, but the HK MP5-- yum.

503 Obi-wan  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:54:41am

{LIZARDS}!

#498 loppyd

And Communists?

504 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:54:48am
#496 funky chicken 3/6/2007 07:52AM PST

411 Elric Whoa great link.

Too bad Chrissy Mathews or Don Imus won't ask their buddy Senator Dodd about that inconvenient truth.


Or anyone for that matter.

505 galloping granny  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:55:26am
#485 easy 3/6/2007 07:49AM PST

realwest / Dustoff-507

I haven't spent much time in the VA hospital system, thank goodness, and while I'm sure there are many competent and dedicated doctors and nurses on staff, you get the staff you pay for. I seriously doubt the VA pay is competitive.

In that case you would lose the bet. The VA pays on a par with any HMO or "public" hospital around. In many areas of the country they offer a "hardship" bonus as well as new-hire bonuses and the like. If they have personnel "problems" some of that stems from regulations - you must be a US citizen or current green card holder for starters. No imports from the Phillipines or elsewhere like your local hospital does. The application is 30 pages long and applicants are subject to background checks by at least the FBI and sometimes Military Intelligence as well.

And then there is the stress factor: In a regular hospital you have a spectrum of patients - old, young, dying, here just overnight. Every single patient at the VA is someone who made a huge and often very obvious sacrifice. VERY stressful to work with hundreds of vets day after week after year. Some people find they cannot handle it.

506 Daisy  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:55:31am

#475 galloping granny,

"This is not just a problem at the VA - this is across the board at just about any hospital you walk into."

Glad you (as a professional) brought that up .. it's something that's come up for me every time I read a post about VA hospitals. Of course, health care problems are need of very functional solutions .. arguably even more imperative at VA hospitals than general care hospitals .. considering the wounds have been sustained while fighting for the rest of us ( from the posts of yours I've read, I'm sure you'd be in agreement) What do you think needs to happen to improve the level of care at all hospitals? I'll check back later .. work calls.

507 Ginn  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:55:41am
One of them went this Monday, he will get back to Archer City tomorrow, I'll ask him how it went this time and report back to you. He has back problems from sitting on his ass and feeling sorry for himself, but other wise the mj dope smoking for 40 years has kept him a Democrat liberal he even voted for Kerry after we did the swiftboat thing, total blue dog Democrat town Archer City, and the leader of it is Larry McMurty and his loon sister, although she still has a fine hard body at 62, and the hair dye does confuse my morals some.

Damn... you write even better than McMurty does, tfk, but at least you write non-fiction. Tell McMurty that we know he plagiarized a real cowboy when he wrote Lonesome Dove but since he did such a fine job with the Last Picture Show, I might forgive him.

Might.

508 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:56:16am

#418 nmm:

They claim their best girls are working in ski resorts because a lack of snow has forced tourists to seek other pleasures.

Petra Nestorova, who runs an escort agency in Sofia, said: 'We have hired students, but they are temps and nothing like our elite girls.'

Yet another Inconvenient Truth:
GLOBAL WARMING IS TAKING THE "PRO" OUT OF "PROSTITUTE"!

509 lawhawk  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:56:46am

geepers:

It's actually interesting to read the commentary on the case from the firedoglake folks who are liveblogging the case. They're torn by the fact that they want to see Libby hang, but know that the case hasn't been made.

OT:
Just in case you forgot that the Left supports the troops, here's more visual proof.

510 HeatherRadish  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:56:50am

#498 loppyd

And yet, the Miami Hurricanes are allowed to keep their name, even though "Miami" is the name of a tribe and "Hurricanes" are deadly racist weapons of Karl Rove.

The hypocrisy astounds.

511 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:57:33am

407 paco, yes I read the link. I meant that I definitely don't have a good handle on the different British networks considering that I don't even watch much US TV.

I had heard that TV4 was a British public network and had thus assumed it was just a branch of the BBC. Your link was very informative.

512 Trumanite  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:58:29am
513 Sponge  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:58:50am
NATICK - The school committee in Heisman Trophy winner Doug Flutie’s home town narrowly voted to stop using the nickname Redmen to refer to the school system’s sports teams because the term can be construed as offensive to American Indians.


How come noone ever asks the Indians what THEY think?

514 loppyd  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 5:59:54am

{Obi-Wan}!

It's ridiculous. My highs school's team name is The Generals. This must offend the Moonbats to no end.

BWAAAHAHAHAHA.

515 shug  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:00:13am

498 loppy D

Can't they keep the name redmen and instead have it refer to the communists on the school board?

516 HeatherRadish  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:00:23am

Good morning, lizards. I'm feeling bitingly sarcastic today.

517 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:00:27am
#447 christheprofessor
My sister works at a VA hospital. She started out with nine people in her area. After years of attrition (retirements, people moving on to other opportunities), she is down to just two people, doing the work of the original nine... No relief in sight....


Chris
I go to the VA hospital in Asheville NC and have been treated good..
But an employee said, "We were not set up to be a Long Term Care facility".
We need Critical care nursing hospitals for badly wounded vets.

518 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:00:29am
#513 Sponge 3/6/2007 07:58AM PST

NATICK - The school committee in Heisman Trophy winner Doug Flutie’s home town narrowly voted to stop using the nickname Redmen to refer to the school system’s sports teams because the term can be construed as offensive to American Indians.

How come noone ever asks the Indians what THEY think?


Libs must think Indians are too stupid to know if they should be offended.

519 loppyd  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:00:45am

HeatherRadish

And yet, the Miami Hurricanes are allowed to keep their name, even though "Miami" is the name of a tribe and "Hurricanes" are deadly racist weapons of Karl Rove.

LOL!

520 HeatherRadish  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:01:57am

#513 Sponge

How come noone ever asks the Indians what THEY think?

Because they don't get the answer they want. See also the NCAA's crusade to get rid of the Fighting Sioux nickname of North Dakota...even though the local Sioux tribe said it's OK.

521 loppyd  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:02:00am

shug

I bet Cambridge would be willing to trade with Natick. :)

522 Wrath_70  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:02:10am

Dugg

523 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:02:38am

#510 Heather Radish

LOL.

524 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:02:48am

433 I saw the test, very pretty. New York cold in early March? Ho Hum.

Just more proof that the Goreicle is full of hot air.

525 Silhouette  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:02:57am

#471 Jeff S.

Council on American-Islamic Relations; they are telling you right there that they consider America and Islam to be two separate entities.

If one read Council on American Christian Relations, one would wonder, relations with whom? Because clearly American isn't separate, but qualifies which subset of Christians. With or without the dash.

526 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:03:02am

#502 Buckeye:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it's a 9mm then its a Mac-11.

I hereby correct you, for thou art wrong. (The Mac-11 is .380ACP).

Wouldn't want either myself, but the HK MP5-- yum.

I've never fired any model MAC, but they do seem like rather crappy weapons, and definitely appear to have fallen out of favor with professionals. The only relatively serious-looking military professionals I've ever seen actually carrying one; the guards at Army headquarters in Santiago, Chile. (This was in the early 90s, they may have upgraded by now.)

The MP5, OTOH, is a wonderful piece of machinery.

As to the relative merits of experienced versus amateur hookers, I'll leave that debate to our more worldly posters. I'm much too innocent to have an opinion on such things.

527 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:03:08am

476 ctp

even the VA IT program isn't well thought out. when my dad moved from MN to OK, he had to go through the entire enrollment process for the VA.... even though he'd been going to the VA for a few years.

they both use computer systems, maybe even the same computer system, but they couldn't access his record because it wasn't from OK....

the VA, like many other government things, is a slowly failing entity that is chock full of good ideas and good ideals, both of which were squandered.

Maybe we should require congressmen and their families go through the VA system.

That'd fix the problem in 1 year.... 2 max.

528 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:03:14am

Fitzgerald: The operator is standing by
Anyone debating Dinesh D'Souza should be sure to do exactly as Serge Trifkovic did. Simply ask D'Souza a question or two about the most obvious and elementary of matters.

If nothing else, it will force him, after his "four years of studying Islam" to little effect, to actually have to start studying it -- if only so as not to play the fool in public. Why, who knows? It may force him to learn something.

I can think of a dozen things right off the bat that Spencer or Trifkovic or others could ask D'Souza -- very elementary things, but things I am sure he will not be able to answer.

He now has three choices:

1) Be shown up for an ignoramus, prating about things he knows very little, almost nothing, about.

2) Be forced to study Islam, and in so doing, he may have to modify some of his views.

3) Never appear where anyone can debate or even cross-question him about his knowledge of Islam.

I think Dinesh D'Souza will choose #3.


[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

529 Buckeye Abroad  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:03:49am

#501 Buckeye Abroad

And will Cherry and Tony even stay in the UK? I heard they've got some nice digs in Australia lined up.

You can count on them leaving-- maybe he could get a job at Gazprom (Schroeder) and she can teach at an ivy league university in New England (Joska "RAF" Fischer).

Socialist leaders are such hypocrites.

530 Texas Heathen  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:03:55am

418 nmm
I like this headline better.
Brothel Owners Blame Global Warming for Staff Shortages...

short staffs.
:X

531 shug  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:04:08am

fighting sioux is so raaaaaacist.
/moonbat

perhaps Negotiating sioux is a more appropriate choice for today's soft multiculti society

of course the Sioux were a proud warrior nation so I am not sure they would go for a pussy wimp name given to them by well meaning white liberals

532 HeatherRadish  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:05:14am

#519 loppyd

In all seriousness, I've been wondering why the Virginia Cavaliers have been allowed to keep their name, since it references soldiers who fought for the Confederacy. Probably no money in complaining about it, or Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been on it already.

My alma mater is the Crusaders. I expect some Saudi student to register a complain any day now.

533 Obi-wan  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:05:35am

#514 loppyd

My High School athletic teams were "The Moors."

How do you think I feel?

534 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:05:57am

What about the 'Quakers?'

The football helmuts had the oatmeal guy on them.

Really.

535 Dustoff-507  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:05:57am

#505 Granny

No imports from the Phillipines or elsewhere like your local hospital does.

Sorry granny. I must disagree with you on this one. I've been to the VA in San Diego and many of the staff were from PI.

536 Sponge  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:06:37am
Because they don't get the answer they want. See also the NCAA's crusade to get rid of the Fighting Sioux nickname of North Dakota...even though the local Sioux tribe said it's OK.


The University of Illinois (which is named after the STATE which is ALSO named after an INDIAN TRIBE) got rid of it's mascot, which was an Indian Chief in full garb because it 'might be offensive'........

Meanwhile, back at the farm, they seem to FORGET THE FACT that the name of sports teams and such are a TRIBUTE to the HERITAGE OF THE UNITED STATES and the atrocities brought to the Indian by the colonists. Should they take the names away, the memory of the American Indian will slowly fade away and NO ONE WILL REMEMBER our HISTORY. Good idea, left......jackasses.

537 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:06:50am

493 haak

sorry, meant to face our butts east towards france.

face our face west, yeah.

538 Ben Hur  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:07:01am

helmut?

helmet.

PIMF.

539 Silhouette  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:07:08am

We were the Trojans.

That will be the last mascot attacked by the left.

540 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:07:47am
#533 Obi-wan 3/6/2007 08:05AM PST

#514 loppyd

My High School athletic teams were "The Moors."

How do you think I feel?


Does the school even know what that means?

541 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:08:03am

497 Elric

even with us there over half of the UN resolutions have been against Israel.

I really do fear for israel should a dem take presidency.

542 MandyManners  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:08:12am

My alma mater is that species-supremacist University of Washington: the HUSKIES.

543 loppyd  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:08:13am

shug

perhaps Negotiating sioux is a more appropriate choice for today's soft multiculti society

Redeploying Sioux would be more palatable to the Leftist Loons.

544 galloping granny  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:08:26am
#535 Dustoff-507 3/6/2007 08:05AM PST

#505 Granny

No imports from the Phillipines or elsewhere like your local hospital does.

Sorry granny. I must disagree with you on this one. I've been to the VA in San Diego and many of the staff were from PI.

If they were - and note I did not say "no immigrants" - then they legally came to the US before they got the job at the VA. Your local hospital quite often brings in staff from the Phillipines, Canada, the UK and elsewhere on HB visas because they work cheaper than US staff can or will.

545 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:08:33am

#528 Elric:

I really don't understand what happened to D'Souza. His The End of Racism was brilliant. What's So Great About America was somewhat poorly-written, but his head and heart were in the right place, and what he wrote in that book seems almost in direct apposition to what he apparently has written in his new book (which I admit I have not read, I'm relying on reviews).

546 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:09:09am

500 Dustoff

and, of course, none of the people in the ER are illegals...

because illegal immigrants don't REALLY cost us anything... they're just here to work!

547 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:09:41am

#541 LanceKates 3/6/2007 08:08AM PST

497 Elric

even with us there over half of the UN resolutions have been against Israel.

I really do fear for israel should a dem take presidency.

They have Olmert. You should fear for them now.

548 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:09:42am

#543 loppy:

Redeploying Sioux

Nice.

549 realwest  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:10:05am

galloping granny, CtP, TFK, funky chicken and Dustoff - galloping granny kinda hit the nail on the head at her comment at #463. But at least as I see it, those vetarans who are no longer "in the military" and who's health care needs are, to varying degrees, the result of their military service deserve a hell of a lot better care than they have traditionally received (I say this pending, as per my comment #482 to lawhawk, further review and study of his second link) or are currently receiving.
When you're in the military, the health care couldn't be better (unless, of course, you're relying on Dems - specifically John Fuckin' Murtha and John (did you know I served in Vietnam?) Kerry, to fund and provide the congressional oversight of military health care). It's once you go on veteran status (even if you're discharge from active duty was due to wounds suffered while on active duty) that the whole fucking system breaks down. I'm glad there's a spankin' new VA Hospital in Tampa; unfortunately, while a lot of WWII and Korean Vets have retired there, most Vietnam and most Gulf War I vets don't live anywhere near there and - take my word for this - Walter Reed is a paragon of great health care compared to NYC's VA health care. I suspect the same is true of VA facilities in "Rust Belt" states throughout the US.
And with that, I AM pulling my soap box further away, gotta go take mom back to doctor again this morning.

Hope to see y'all later on and hope y'all have a GREAT DAY.

550 Sponge  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:10:22am
#533 Obi-wan 3/6/2007 08:05AM PST

My High School athletic teams were "The Moors."

How do you think I feel?


BWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAH! ! ! !

I would start a petition RIGHT AWAY! !

551 Obi-wan  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:11:09am

#540 Elric 66

Don't forget how LONG ago that was!

552 WriterMom  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:11:35am

#531 shug

I think Weak Liberal Kufar Appeasement Dhimmis would be a great name for a team.

/LOL

553 doppelganglander  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:11:37am

After the discussions here about Barack Obama's church and it's apparent anti-white, anti-middle-class beliefs, you all might find this interesting. From The Hillary Spot at NRO:

Obama Disinvited His Wee-Bit Controversial Pastor From His Announcement Ceremony

Poor Obama. He makes sure his controversial pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., doesn't attend his announcement ceremony, and the New York Times still writes a lengthy story hitting him over disinviting him, and runs a big picture of him with his arm around that pastor. Some days, you just can't win:

In Monday’s interview, Mr. Wright expressed disappointment but no surprise that Mr. Obama might try to play down their connection.

“When his enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli” to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, Mr. Wright recalled, “with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.” Mr. Wright added that his trip implied no endorsement of either Louis Farrakhan’s views or Qaddafi’s.

Mr. Wright said that in the phone conversation in which Mr. Obama disinvited him from a role in the announcement, Mr. Obama cited an article in Rolling Stone, “The Radical Roots of Barack Obama.”

According to the pastor, Mr. Obama then told him, “You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.”

Traveling with Farrakhan? Controversial? Never.

554 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:11:40am

505 galloping

my dad often laments seeing the other vets when he's at the VA. sitting alone, a bit off from the things they'd seen and done.

not really a part of society, having left society when they came back from doing their job and were spit on by the hippie scum-sucking lefties that took over.

555 HeatherRadish  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:11:53am

#536 Sponge

The NCAA granted exceptions to schools that could get approval from the tribes to use the names/mascots. The Seminoles and Utes make lots of $$$ off of licensing, so FSU and Utah got to keep their mascots. A couple of other smaller schools got to keep "Chippewa" and "Catawba."

Problem is, the Illini were almost totally annhilated by the Sioux in the 19th century and the survivors got shipped to the southwest and mingled with the local tribes there, so there's no one heading up an organization of Illini to say, "Hey, we're not offended."

There's also no one to be offended, but why let a little detail like that get in the way of a good thought-cleansing? :)

556 haakondahl  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:12:15am

Yahoo is linking to THE WRONG STORY, but the headline says that Bob Dole and Donna Shalala will head the investigation into Walter Reed.

Well, whatever Dole manages to bring up, no doubt Shalala knows how to handle it.

557 Elric66  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:12:32am
#545 Occasional Reader 3/6/2007 08:08AM PST

#528 Elric:

I really don't understand what happened to D'Souza. His The End of Racism was brilliant. What's So Great About America was somewhat poorly-written, but his head and heart were in the right place, and what he wrote in that book seems almost in direct apposition to what he apparently has written in his new book (which I admit I have not read, I'm relying on reviews).

Honestly, I never heard of the guy until this new book of his came out. Maybe he got bitten by political correctness. But if he wants to debate Islam, he really should have some understanding of it.

558 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:13:27am

A Democrat told me that the problem with the VA hospitals is that Haliburton manages them..

I nearly fell off the freaking chair.

I guess Karl Rove is paying to get our troops wounded,
and getting monies for their long term care..

Please Vote For John Edwards.
He will give us Universal Health Care..

From the Womb to the Cremation,
Democrats will take care of our American Dream..

Praise God,
For John Edwards
Amen...

559 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:13:30am

484 tfk sigh...figures

560 Buckeye Abroad  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:14:01am

#526 Occasional Reader

A stand corrected. Thanks for setting me straight.

The only relatively serious-looking military professionals I've ever seen actually carrying one; the guards at Army headquarters in Santiago, Chile.

Santiago is a future destination of mine. What were you doing there? Any recommendations?

561 haakondahl  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:15:03am

CNN LEADING with Abdel Kareem blogger prison story! [Link: www.freekareem.org...]

Oh, and the Big Lizard is moving...

Interview with Sandmonkey! Good Job CNN!

562 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:15:16am

547 Elric

eh, the United States has always kept others in check while Israel fights its battles.... though I do wish they would have finished the job in Lebenon... they didn't even get their soldiers back!

but if we get another jimmy carter in office, they may as well just build bunkers and sit in them until I become president in 2016.. (well, January of 2017)

563 Sponge  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:15:57am
#555 HeatherRadish 3/6/2007 08:11AM PST


Good point.

564 Obi-wan  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:16:08am

#550 Sponge

I don't really care that much.

565 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:17:38am
#533 Obi-wan 3/6/2007 08:05AM PST

My High School athletic teams were "The Moors."

How do you think I feel?

LOL

We were the RED DEVILS..

OH SHIT,

I AM,
AN INFIDEL.

566 galloping granny  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:18:05am
#517 ibmkeyboard 3/6/2007 08:00AM PST

#447 christheprofessor
My sister works at a VA hospital. She started out with nine people in her area. After years of attrition (retirements, people moving on to other opportunities), she is down to just two people, doing the work of the original nine... No relief in sight....


Chris
I go to the VA hospital in Asheville NC and have been treated good..
But an employee said, "We were not set up to be a Long Term Care facility".
We need Critical care nursing hospitals for badly wounded vets.

Very true. But then when the VA was set up decades ago there was little or need for Long Term Care. You either survived your injuries and went home or you died. Very little in between. There are a few VA hospitals that are set up solely and entirely to provide psychiatric care, but long term medical is a newish requirement brought on by advances in the world of medicine. There are beginning to be a few of these - again, notably in Florida - but like anything else connected with the government, things are slow in coming. Quite a different ballgame to get 400+ reps and 100+ senators plus the executive branch to fund something than the dozen folks on your local hospita board, who also get a nice tax write off from the feds for making improvements.

RE the IT disparacy, the situation is exactly as it would be if you were to be a patient at one of the Columbia-Presbyterian hospitals (a private chain) and decided to move across country. From an IT point of view it may make little sense, but from a medical point of view limiting the access to records makes perfect sense when accuracy and continuity of care are at issue.

567 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:18:11am

I recently got Londonistan from the public library. I had to get it through interlibrary loan. My county sustem doesn't have it, but the state does. I've heard about some public libraries refusing to have it in their collections. I bet I could easily find the peanut farmer's book in my county's catalog.

568 loppyd  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:18:25am

HeatherRadish

My alma mater is the Crusaders. I expect some Saudi student to register a complain any day now.

My alma mater is the Warriers, which could be construed as any group from the Celts to the Spartans. Surely somebody is offended by it. :)

569 Widow'smight  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:18:42am

Loppyd,

Redeploying Sioux would be more palatable to the Leftist Loons.

In honor of your place of employment, how bout the
"Weregonna Sioux" nation.

570 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:19:29am

#518 Elric66

How come noone ever asks the Indians what THEY think?

Libs must think Indians are too stupid to know if they should be offended.

A few years ago I was treated to a harrangue from a leftist British woman (is there any voice more anoying than the accent & cadences of a whinging English female moonbat?) about how terribly "you Americans" have treated the "red Indians", never mind that I'm Canadian, "you're all just as guilty", on and on she went... genocide of the red Indians, racism, apartheid, stealing the land from the red Indians,... blah, blah, blah... When she had finally shouted herself out, I thanked her for her comments and told her, "As bad as we North Americans are, none of us would ever use such an offensive racist term as 'red Indian.' "

For a moment she looked truly frightened as she considered the possibility she had actually uttered a "racist slur". ;)

571 Ma Sands  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:19:32am

#554 LanceKates
I used to give them taxi rides 30 years ago.....and in last 20 or so years, have gone with my church & kids to sing for them.....it is always such a somber, unhappy feeling there....

Here's a kind of nice story, out of Iraq, about our soldiers....

572 HeatherRadish  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:19:55am

The VA hospitals in Iowa get a lot of nurses from the Marshall Islands. They don't like to stay on, though, because the winters are hard on them. Can't blame them.

And there should be a mechanism for training all these single mothers in the inner cities in a profession like nursing and getting them into the system, but why would anyone move to Iowa to take a job when the government will pay you to stay poor on the East Coast?

573 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:21:11am

This is it Gang, Bush is absolutely totally fucked up beyond redemption! His pandering to "bi-partisanship," has rendered his mind completely inert!

He has appointed Bob Dole, well known geriatric erectionally dysfunctional, cigar store indian, and Donna Shalala, Clintonite moombaticus maximus, to co-chair a commission to investigate the goings on at Walter Reed!

Now that sure shows how serious he is about that matter.

Took all these years, and every break I could give him, but now the ugly truth is absolutely inescapable. George Walker Bush, is an irredeemable, brain dead moron!

His heart may be in the right place(lots of room for debate there, too), but his head is crammed, shoulders deep, up his ass!

I've had it with this guy! He had the opportunity for greatness, on the par of Washington, and Lincoln, but was just too small a man to meet the challenge. He will amount to little more than a footnote in history.

And still, for the sake of our country, I hope that somehow, I'm wrong.

574 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:22:37am

555 HeatherRadish

my high school and my college were both "Crusaders"

my college was never contacted by anyone who was offended, but decided one year to change its name... just incase someone may be offended sometime in the future.

so they changed their name to the "Storm"

575 hayseed  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:23:21am

by the way I never said I like Islam, I think it is satanic!

just got back from my female Muslim doctor...she wears slacks and a shirt, no hajib. I asked her about sharia law in the USA. she said those Muslims that want sharia should move back to were they came from.lol

576 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:23:32am
My alma mater is the Warriers, which could be construed as any group from the Celts to the Spartans. Surely somebody is offended by it. :)


My high school team was The Spartans. Didn't they own slaves?

577 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:24:30am

Sorry All, Here's a link to go with my #537 post.

Donna Shalala Sucks!

578 HeatherRadish  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:24:53am

#568 loppyd

Marquette University changed a few years ago from the Warriors to the Eagles...don't remember which group was offended.

I'm offended they changed. :P

579 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:25:00am

544 galloping granny My local hospital in Montgomery, AL was staffed by all Americans when I had surgery last March. All the nurses had RN or LPN on their name tags, and the only thing the aides did for me was bring water and help me stand up.

I admit I was surprised, but it was a good stay and the care from nursing staff was great.

There were lots of job listings on the bulletin boards in the hospital hallway, but I saw and felt no nursing shortage in my quality of care...and the floor was full.

I've been an inpatient in military and civilian medical facilities, and every town we've been in, the civilian is hands-down better. No comparison.....no way.

580 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:25:25am

#560 Buckeye:

Santiago is a future destination of mine. What were you doing there?

Tourism. I swear.

Any recommendations?

My Santiago info is way outdated at this point. Aside from the usual (Plaza de Armas, Cerro San Cristobal, Museum of Pre-Colombian Art); see if you can spot the patched-up bullet holes on the face of "La Moneda" (presidential palace); have dinner at the Santiago branch of my favorite Peruvian restaurant, Astrid y Gastón; head out to Viña del Mar for the day or overnight, to plot the coup take in some sea air.

581 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:26:12am

#569 {widow'smight}

In honor of your place of employment, how bout the
"Weregonna Sioux" nation

LOL! And g'day to you from Down Here

582 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:26:34am

My kids' last school went K-12. Mascot? Trojans.

My favorite mascot is the Christian Heritage Academy in Midwest City, OK.

Crusaders.

583 loppyd  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:27:26am

Widow'smight

In honor of your place of employment, how bout the
"Weregonna Sioux" nation.

You get the prize! LOL LOL LOL!

584 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:27:47am

570 Kenneth

I was going to get (but weasled out of) detention once for saying indian in class.

571 Ma sands

such horrible stuff going on there. It is good to see a story showing our POSITIVE impact.

585 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:28:09am

In my life I was a Ram and an Explorer. It's such nonsense to get your panties in an uproar about a team name. P.J. O'rourke once said something to the effect that "no one will name their team after something they hate. There's no New York N*gg*rs, for example."

586 Kenneth  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:28:09am

#557 Elric66

Honestly, I never heard of the guy until this new book of his came out. Maybe he got bitten by political correctness. But if he wants to debate Islam, he really should have some understanding of it.

De Souza's problem isn't political correctiness. His book as been blasted from bothe the left & the right. His basic premise is that Islamists hate the West because of our decadent culture, especially with regards to sex. Emancipation of woman, sex in the media, trashy pop stars and gay rights have all offended the Islamists. In my opinion, that is true to some extent, but there is much more to it than that.

Conservative critics point out that this is not the true picture of the West, that they hate us for our democracy, capitalism, freedom & individual rights. Leftists complain the de Souza is blaming all the things they love about our culture.

Somehow De Souza has managed to offend everybody, & I've got to admire him for that at least.

587 HeatherRadish  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:28:27am

#576 Mad Al-Jaffee

My high school team was The Spartans. Didn't they own slaves?

All the ancient Greek societies did. But the Spartans are also famous for their armies, uh, loving their fellow soldiers, so they get a pass. :P

588 Silhouette  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:28:42am

#553 doppel

“When his enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli” to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, Mr. Wright recalled, “with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.”

FYI, Right Reverend Wright, more than just the Jews have a problem with Farrakhan and Qaddafi.

And snowballs in hell are known for not having "a chance," not drying up.

589 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:29:20am

575 hayseed Well, there you go!

I have no problem with "salad bar" muslims. Or "salad bar" Christians or Jews, for that matter.

590 loppyd  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:29:38am

funky chicken

Holy Cross is the Crusaders as well. When they play my alma
mater in hockey it is the Crudaders v. the Warriors.

The seething must be palpable. :)

591 Geepers  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:30:27am

doppelganglander (#553),

According to the pastor, Mr. Obama then told him, “You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.”

Hide him away, but don't disagree with him. Obama's a snake in the grass.

592 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:31:38am

588 sil Those damn Jews again? shesh...at least the good pastor could remember to say "zionists"

593 Occasional Reader  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:31:50am

#585 BDVM:

In my life I was a Ram and an Explorer.

Those are both the names of GREENHOUSE-GAS EMITTING PICKUP TRUCK SPORT YUTES! Very, very offensive.

594 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:33:22am

585 Beer Drinking

we should make an LGF sporting team and name it the "LGF Citizens and legal immigrants"

595 Dustoff-507  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:34:05am

#573 Bennson

Donna Shalala

I just can't believe he picked that MOONBAT!

She will do nothing to help our GI's, but will stick it to GW.

This was SO stupid. )-:

596 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:34:46am

in addition to my 594....

our mascot would be a middle aged white guy with a briefcase (showing that they work) and a cross necklace...... instead of jumping and running around the field yellling and cheering, they'll be paying taxes.

you know... like real life.

597 Obi-wan  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:35:27am

Later, Lizards!


Play nice.

598 Widow'smight  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:35:29am

Queenie of Oz,

Are they called Barristers down under?

The Groundhog said it was supposed to be SPRING now. The windchill was below zero (that's Farenheit sunshine) this morning. Where's Al Gorged when you need him.

599 Dad 2 4  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:36:48am

There is HOPE.....

[Link: www.secularislam.org...]

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

600 Geepers  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:37:02am

Silhouette(#588),

Don't ya love it when people butcher clichés?

601 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:38:38am

573 M Bensson Levi It took you this long? LOL

I didn't vote in 2000 because I figuered Bush and Gore were both, well, idiots. Had I known Gore was a batshit crazy idiot I suppose I'd have voted for Bush.

Kerry was a batshit crazy idiot, so I stood in line for hours to vote for Bush in 2004.

Bush seems like a nice guy who means well.....but he's either so terribly naive (his meeting with Putin in June 2001 where he saw some kind of beneficient soul in the man) up to and including his statement that Al-Maliki is the "right man at the right time" for Iraq....

Or if it's not naivite, what is the explanation?

602 Widow'smight  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:41:51am

Loppyd,

You get the prize!

I got my prize last week when we both thought of Babba Mountain.

Speaking of Loppies, did you ever see "Open Season"? Watched it last night with Mini-mom and Mom. What they did with those rabbits was hill-air-e-us.

603 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:42:44am

#595 Dustoff-507

This was SO stupid. )-:

This is beyond mere stupidity. There's something very devious, underhanded, and unwholesome going on here...and perhaps with his entire world view.

604 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:44:33am

#598 widow'smight

Yes we have solicitors, barristers, QCs - the Pommie system

And it's now Autumn here - goodbye Summer :-(

605 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:46:12am

598 Widow

If you're feeling cold, come here.

606 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:46:28am

603 M Bensson Levi welcome to my world of wondering what the hell is going on ... with my husband's commander in chief.

When he's good he's pretty good (Yo, Blair re: Syria and Hezbollah; finger in Matt Lauer's face, various other unscripted and unhandled appearances)

When he's bad, he's AWFUL.

With that, I'm off to get something accomplished today.

607 Dustoff-507  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:48:00am

#603 Bensson

I really like GW.
But when he does dumb stuff like this it drive me crazy.

It like a kid standing there in front of a bully and saying hit me, but he NEVER puts his fists up!

When is he ever going to learn. STOP working with the Dem's, they hate you GW.

608 EtNorskTroll  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:48:50am
#4 nextstopmars 3/5/2007 07:56PM PST

Can we flush that book down the toilet?


Uh, nextstopmars?

Shouldn't that be "Can we flush that book back down the toilet?"

Just wonderin' aloud....

~Norsk Troll

609 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:49:04am

#601 funky chicken

I knew that Gore, and Kerry were both a great deal more evil that Bush, I still believe so. Bush was the only choice in either election, but he is the greatest disappointment since the rhythm method...and a great deal less fun.

610 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:49:09am

604 aussie

as much as we love to provide for you and make your life wonderful (You are, after all, our favorite aussie!) it is OUR turn for warm weather.

*grin*

611 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:50:25am

This will interest some I reckon :-D

Fridge that delivers beer to you

DUKE UNIVERSITY, North Carolina: A US inventor has come up with the ultimate sport-viewing accessory - a fridge that throws cold cans of beer to fans who are too lazy to get off the couch.
John Cornwell spent three months and $2500 perfecting the Beer Launching Fridge, which is activated by a remote control that sets off a lift mechanism in the fridge.

The lift delivers the can to an electronic catapult, which rotates until it is lined up with its thirsty target. It then hurls the beer up to 3.5m to the drinker.

It can hold a full 24-can carton. See the fridge in action at [Link: www.metacafe.com...]

Perfect!

612 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:53:00am

#607 Dustoff-507

When is he ever going to learn. STOP working with the Dem's, they hate you GW.

Baffles the livin' shit out of me!

613 funky chicken  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:55:06am

609 M. Bensson-Levi great post

You might enjoy this CNN transcript. The juxtaposition of Senators Dodd and Kyl and Rep. Tancredo is clarifying or something.

[Link: transcripts.cnn.com...]

now I'm really leaving

614 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:55:38am

#610 {Lancekates}

Why thank you and yes after all that snow and ice everywhere it's time you all thawed out

Here we're prepared now for winter - the socks are ready and I've found my coat and the footy has almost started

615 Random63  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:58:16am

I am beginning to think that this thread has gotten way off topic. ;)

616 Widow'smight  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 6:59:56am

Lance,

That ain't right! I had full winter gear on this morning walking WGD. He still went in the openings in the Ice, while we listened to the Ice Monster groan at the Reservoirs. The wind is howling like crazy here.

Queenie,

In our closest big City Philadelphia, they have the Greased Palmie system going. The Libiots keep re-electing these clowns, so they get what they elect.

617 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:04:29am

#615 random63

G'day - yes this is the very special DDT - the thread that isn't the topical thread after 2am - then it's a free for all (Regulation 101 LGF Manual)

618 Widow'smight  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:07:50am

Random63,

Regulation 102 states that the finest ladies in the world post on this thread. Ask any regular DDT Man-grunter, he'll tell you that.

619 Dad 2 4  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:08:41am

#611 aussiemagpie

Might I suggest one of these as the next purchase...

[Link: www.goaliemonkey.com...]

620 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:09:18am

#616 widow'smight

Here our judges are not elected - they're appointed by the Government of the day - so if a lefty Government stacks up the benches with like minded judges we're stuck with them till they fall off the perch

621 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:14:19am

#619 Dad 2 4

LOL! Good link!

Yes whoever is on the receiving end of those hurled cans will surely need protection! :-)

622 Widow'smight  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:16:09am

Queenie of OZ,

Here our judges are not elected - they're appointed by the Government of the day - so if a lefty Government stacks up the benches with like minded judges we're stuck with them till they fall off the perch

Well, the DDT judges are OBVIOUSLY appointed by said finest Ladies in the world to insure we make the correct rulings. And our Ladies are STACKED, and have real nice perches.

623 roachspray  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:16:53am

I just finished listening to a conference call with Ambassador Dore Gold sponsored by The Israel Project. He was asked about this book during the Q&A following his talk. His response: "I read this morning on LGF, a very important web site, about cair supporting this ..."

624 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:24:07am

#622 widow'smight

HAHAHA! You're on fire today luv :-D

625 aussiemagpie  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:33:53am

Not many of us here to prop up the DDT tonight :-)

Well it's bedtime here for me

Some words of wisdom from my favourite Imam who today is supervising a female student in this arduous task of answering such deep and meaningful religious questions


Question
Is it permissible for girls to get haircuts even if they wear a hijab?
An early respose will be appreciated. Thank you.


Answer
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatoh

It is prohibited for females to trim their hair. (Al-Mahmood pg.173)

The actual ruling is that it is not permissible for a woman to trim her hair at all except during haj or umra.

It is not permissible for women to cut their hair. (Shaami vol.6 pg.407 H.M.Saeed)

And Allah knows best

Wassalam

A Female Iftaa Student

Checked and Approved by:

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Darul Iftaa, Madrassah In'aamiyyah

Please don't laugh - this is serious Allah religion bizness!

Nightynight {everyone} and see you tonight/yesterday

626 TimeQuake  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:36:56am

#433 Ed of Many Names

If it's any consolation, we're due for two to four inches of snow here starting after midnight, Shenandoah Valley, Virginia. And it will not get above freezing today. Not that any of us are getting used to it.

627 UFO TOFU  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:39:24am

Just a quick drive-by;
Top Ten Times the "F" word was justified in history:

10th - "Scattered F*cking showers, my ass!" - Noah, 4314 BC
9th - "How the f*ck did you work that out?" - Pythagoras, 126 BC
8th - "You want WHAT on the f*cking ceiling?" - Michelangelo, 1566
7th - "Where did all those f*cking Indians come from?" - Custer,1877
6th - "It does so f*cking look like her!" - Picasso,1926
5th - "Where the f*ck are we?" - Amelia Earhart, 1937
4th - "Any f*cking idiot could understand that." - Einstein, 1938
3rd - "What the f*ck was that?" - Mayor Of Hiroshima,1945
2nd - "I need this parade like I need a f*cking hole in the head!" - JFK,1963
1st - "Aw c'mon. Who the f*ck is going to find out?" - Bill Clinton
628 newmelleman  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:40:36am

Hi {Aussie}.
Bye {Aussie}.

:(

NMB has school pictures today, so NMW (against my better judgement) decided to give him a haircut last night. I give her credit for having enough nerve to try but sadly it turned out to be more than she was ready for. I don't think I had a single haircut between the ages of 11 and 21 that I was happy with no matter who cut it. I think NMW has a better understanding of this dynamic now.

I told NMB, if he catches flak from friends, to just play it up like he can't believe the other kids haven't heard of/seen the new style.

:D

NMM

629 Widow'smight  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:49:34am

NMM,

I'm just glad my remaining hair isn't grey yet!

I didn't have much choice at his age, Mom and Dad paid for the cheap cut, all they could afford.

How the temps out in Saint wooie?

630 donna quixote  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:51:52am

Wearing a burka would improve Amy Carter's appearance.

631 galloping granny  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 7:52:18am
#572 HeatherRadish 3/6/2007 08:19AM PST

And there should be a mechanism for training all these single mothers in the inner cities in a profession like nursing and getting them into the system, but why would anyone move to Iowa to take a job when the government will pay you to stay poor on the East Coast?

The first requirement for acquiring a degree in nursing is that you can read well enough to pass the science classes to get the diploma. That eliminates nearly all inner-city single mothers and most inner-city non-mothers of the sort dependent on government handout.

One of my alma-maters did the upright thing and started (by force) a program for inner-city minority youth in the nursing department. Each and every one of them was scheduled for Remedial Reading I and Basic Math I (those are the ones that teach 3rd grade reading and math) along with Anatomy and Physiology I and Chemisty I (not the quickie version for "teachers.") Each and every one of those students flunked out - no suprise there - and I have always contended that the PTB in the Nursing Department (previously all white, 18 & blonde) knew darned good and well that they would. Scam to grab the financial aid $ while pretending to fulfill the law.

632 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:10:36am

616 Widow

I'm wearing a short-sleeved shirt and haven't worn a coat in at least a week or two.

If you ever get that tired of winter, move here, we'll take you and yours.

633 Texas Heathen  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:11:23am

627 Tofu
LOL
I think #3 should be #1 though. ROTFL

634 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:15:22am

Ok... time to liven it up.

Guns and Boobs

635 newmelleman  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:17:53am

#629 Widder

How the temps out in Saint wooie?

65 degrees yesterday, low 50's/upper 40's today. Rain later in the week, warmer after that. If I knew how to make the musical note thingies like Miss Trixie I'd throw those in too 'cause spring is just around the corner now.

/I did not graduate from Edtheweatherguy school nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

:)

636 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:19:15am

633 Texas Heathen

Carlos Mencia has a great bit about the atomic bomb.

Arab guy: “My people blew up two of your buildings.”

Carlos Mencia: “Oh yeah? MY people blew up two of your COUNTRIES!”

Arab guy: “My people are trying to create a nuclear bomb and might use it.”

Carlos: “MY people INVENTED the nuclear bomb! And we ALREADY used it! TWICE! ‘Cause that’s how we play, bitch!”

637 Widow'smight  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:20:49am

Lance,

Thanks for the Invite, but I don't think you Sooners/Cowboys fans would like some Nittany Lions/Eagles fan invading your sanctuary. Besides, I don't know about that there Noodling stuff, and you're too far from the Atlantic Ocean, how am I gonna get my Salt-Water fishing fix?

638 Dad 2 4  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:21:11am

#634 LK

Yeah, go ahead!
Get my hopes up.

639 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:24:27am

637 Widow

there are all types here. the guy one cubicle over is a kansas fan.

its ok though, you'd learn to appreciate the OU football team (and the cheerleaders)

as for noodling, I don't get it either, but I like the end result (Lots of catfish to eat)


638 Dad 2 4
heh... ok here, here are some REAL boobies.

640 Texas Heathen  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:27:28am

636 lance
Seen it. Loved it.

641 Dad 2 4  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:29:41am

#639 LK

Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about!

642 Texas Heathen  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:29:42am

Ihtgbtwn
bbl

643 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:33:28am

641 Dad 2 4

See? I know what we all really want.

More Cow Bell!
/ obscure Walken reference

644 Widow'smight  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:34:03am

Lance,

Kansas they say is the name of the Star. Just something to munch on.

BBL I hope, work beckons.

BTW NMM and Lance, as Dad 2 4 could attest, it is 22 degrees here in PA right now. Not 60, 50, 40 or even 30!

645 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:35:58am

644 widow

And that is why I don't miss MN's weather.

646 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 8:53:48am

Spok: Jim, this thread doesn't seem to be moving...

Kirk: Bones, do something!

Bones: Dammit Jim I'm a doctor not an IT guy!


(some skit, I think MADtv had a deal where someone had a heart attack on the bridge and kirk told Bones to help. bones said "Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor not a....... oh. yeah." heh.)

That's this bones, not this bones. (I much prefer the second one.... roar..)

647 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 9:11:04am

Where is everybody?! Up on the Libby thread?

I'm so mad , I could spit!
about, Libby that is.

*spit*

648 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 9:13:17am

647 Beach Lover

what now?

*looks upthread*

well crap.

but not unexpected.

courts are not about getting to Truth, they are about who is more persuasive in their 'version' of the truth.

It is no longer about justice, just sticking it to someone they don't like.

649 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 9:21:41am

Hey Lance.....I'm listening to Rush, and he is having a fit over the comments made by "Dingy Harry" and Pelosi supposedly saying that they are glad that someone in the administraion is convicted of lying about the reason for going to war. Boy if that isn't a leap I don't know what is!
These people are beyond contemptable.

650 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 9:29:09am

649 Beach

the truth doesn't matter, just the way that the truth can be spun to the sheep....

and no one can spin like the Dems.... the Republicans have their spin machine as well, but even the spin machine seems to require some thinking, whereas the liberal spin machine just requires you to feel selfish and hateful. (both of which are easy to do)

As much as they rail against our government and our administration, they'd already be dead if we lived in the nazi regime that the left claims Bush represents.

I've stopped listening to them or paying attention to them. You don't have to hear the words of the devil to know it is a lie.

Thankfully, my treasure is not stored up here. I'm in a retirement plan that gives better yield than a 401k.

651 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 9:33:57am

650 {Lance}
:-)

How you been, anyway?

Long time no e-see

652 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 9:35:17am

651 Beach

oh, doing alright.... hoping to hear back from a college here this week...

how's life on your end?

*hug*

653 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 9:41:17am

Well...I hope you get the news you are wishing for!

Life's good...just working, laundry, same ole same ole! Where's the rest of the DDT lizards?

654 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 9:45:45am

653 Beach

redstate is on a vacation for superbike races... the rest... I don't know. the DDT has been sparce as of late.

and thanks... I hope it is the news I am wishing for as well.... though, I'd be ok if it were the news I'd settle for. I just hope it isn't the news I'm expecting.

655 Beach Lover  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 9:50:29am

now now.....where's that power of positive thinking?!
I'll keep you in my thoughts :-)

656 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 9:52:30am

thanks Beach.

I jus know the luck I'm operating under. There's hope and positive thinking, but I live in a real world too. *grins*

how's the job?

657 LanceKates  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 11:26:34am

why, really, would the council on american-islamic affairs have an opinion on an American's book written about (amongst other things) his opinion of israel?

that's like me supporting a black panther's critique on Nascar.

658 newmelleman  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 11:46:44am

*scribbles note and tapes it to the mirror behind the DDT bar*

[DDT, have missed "speaking" with you lately. I have to cram a week's worth of work into two days because I'll be at a conference the rest of the week. I'll be out of touch until next Monday.

Y'all take care.

NMM]

659 Jim C.  Tue, Mar 6, 2007 3:09:18pm

The Chicago Public Library has a copy for each of its approx. 80 branches, plus extras for the main branch. The availability of each copy shows the latest action. The earliest of these dates is November 2006. I don't know how the library got these copies, but I will check.

You don't have to have a library card to check the catalog at [Link: www.chipubweb.org...] . I presume the same is true for any online catalog.

BTW, it's easy to "lose" a copy without spiriting it away. Misfile it and it won't be found for a while. Drop it between shelves and it'll be lost for a lot longer.


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