Bush need to do the right thing and pardon Libby immediately.

FITZMAS for the KKKosKids

Cue the BDS-ridden moonbats in 5...4...3...2...1...

But did he disavow Ann Coulter's remarks re: John Edwards?!?

Pardon him, Mr. President.

Damn

Not suprised, the trial and the jury pool came from DC, so much for that whole jury of your peers thing. He was found guilty of obstruction, lying to the FBI and perjury.
/spit

What a crock. That is a pathetic result.

Glad we bagged this danger to america.
First martha Stewart, not scooter Libby.

perhaps now that these two thugs have been convicted we can focus on ann coulter's hate speech

Joe Wilson claims victory in 3,2,1....

Foxnews says there are reasons to throw out some of the charges, as the jury was clueless..

From MSNBC...

Fox still hasn't got it online.

A miscarriage of justice. In the end, dollars to doughnuts Bush pardons him.

If I were Bush, I'd pardon him immediately. This would put political attention on the case, which I think would actually favor the administration.

But as is typical for Presidents, these pardons will be swept in quietly at the end of the administration.

DC jury

I hope he appeals this very quickly.

Here comes the Libbylanch ... I wonder if he'll be allowed to remain free pending appeal.

Also, I wonder if Fitzpatrick is done (except for the appeal, of course).

This verdict is a sad result for our nation.

The MSM will spend the next week trying to explain what he was found guilty of.

So, he didn't "out her?"

/American Citizens.

OT

Note to John Edwards.

What nation gives more $ to charity world wide?

Who feeds more hungry around the world?

I have soo many, but must work....

Obstructing investigations on the tooth fairy ?

Hang him !

/this is what will happen more and more, trials without crime

//and ANYTHING is a valid logical consequence of a contradiction, so you can ALWAYS be found guilty of a no-crime.

Just A Grunt #7

He was found guilty of obstruction, lying to the FBI and perjury.

Then shouldn't he get the same punishment as Bill Clinton and have to marry Hilary?

How ironic - guilty of lying about a crime that was not a crime.

j

Damn. We'll be hearing about this forever from the MSM and the rest of the Left wing.

#13 wordwarp

DC jury

Bingo!

The liberals in my office are already having orgasms.

For those expecting a pardon from Bush 2 words
Ramos
Compean

take heart scooter : when you get out of Jail, you can still be mayor of washington DC

Oh well, the moonbats need something to celebrate. They've have had a rough go it lately, what, with VP Cheney not being killed & that flophouse in Copenhagen being demolished.

Was there ever any question this would be the result Hello, DC jury. Also they were so clueless. My prediction on this is that it will be thrown out on appeal.

For all you folks who are talking of pardoning Libby, what kind of s-storm do you think such a move would make and would it be worth it to the Administration's remaining two years in office?

It is quite possible Bush may pardon him as Bush himself is leaving office in January 2009, but it is still premature to talk of this.

The NYT reports that the jury found Libby guilty on 4 of 5 counts, including obstruction of justice.

Count 1 (Obstruction): GUILTY
Count 2 (Perjury): GUILTY
Count 3 (False Statement): NOT GUILTY
Count 4 (Perjury): GUILTY
Count 5 (Perjury): GUILTY

The perjury charges flow into the obstruction charges, so in that respect this make sense facially. Still, it will be interesting to read what the jury thought was the determining factor in the guilt.

#24 Just_A_Grunt 3/6/2007 09:16AM PST

For those expecting a pardon from Bush 2 words
Ramos
Compean

Sad but you are correct

It will be bad for news show ratings - Anna Nicole was good - Libby - bad - because the whole case doesn't make sense.

They claimed he lied about who told him about a purple dog - there was no purple dog - didn't matter to the jury - they claim they caught him in a lie about WHO told him about the non-existant purple dog.

Fitzgerald had an old score to settle regarding this Marc Rich case - Fitzgerald was the prosecutor - Libby sought the pardon from Clinton. Bad blood. Karma.

I wonder- will the diggbats will bury this?

What a waste of taxpayers money.

Proof that it's the coverup, not the (lack-thereof)crime that gets you.

Fox has the miscarriage of justice Verdict now.

Asked if he quit beating his wife, Scooter didn't answer.

GUILTY !

How can you be guilty of perjury but not guilty of making a false statement?

IMPEACH BUSH

/moonbat

Apparently there's a new standard for testimony in criminal investigations. Someone should spell out the rules. If you and I are questioned (Separately) about an event months in the past, and our answers differ, one of us must be lying with the intent of hampering the investigation. Time to call for a grand jury.

But, at least Ann Coulter will be off the front page for a while.

Must be a real bitch to have to defend yourself against trumped-up, politically motivated prosecution.

Just ask the Duke lacrosse players.

How long until the libs start twisting the issue by saying that this is because Libby was the source of the actual leak. It was actually Richard L. Armitage. Now why is no one going after Amitage? Oh yeah, he's not close enough to Bush or Cheney.

quick -- scooter say you believe in global warming or better yet be seen on tv with some Noam Chumpsky book. it'll help with the press coverage

My bet: Bush won't pardon him until the end of his term.

Sadly, our leaders are more suited to playing politics than showing genuine leadership.

/I'm still mad at the Republican candidates who disassociated themselves from Ann Coulter's remarks as demanded by the MSM. When did Mitt Romney become responsible for Ann Coulter? Why isn't Hillary responsible for Bill Maher?

Libby will appeal, imo, and if it gets to appeals court in time I believe he will be exonerated. If not, then Dubya will pardon him in 01-09. Should be fun if that happens to watch the lefties heads explode. But they don't seem to have too much of a problem with Wm Jeffersons pardon for Marc Rich or the fact that Hill's brothers made a killing on pardons at the end of Billy Boy's term.

#32 Sharmuta

will the diggbats will bury this?

Ae you kidding? It will be all of pages 1-10 in caps. They must be drooling.

So they convicted of telling the truth that they didn't like?
I just can't figure out the False Staement/Perjury paradox.

Nice. The liberals will be so happy. Lets see if we can figure out the value system.
1. Leak a program that tracks money from terrorists == good. 2. Forget who told you that a critic of the administrations wife is CIA agent == mortal crime against all that is good.
3. Use the office of the president to smear people who exposed your affair with intern == good
4. Use Lincoln bedroom as a rental unit == good
5. Support terrorists as insurgents == good
6. Support Chavez's right to shutdown press == good
7. Call the liberal media bias == Same as gassing the Jews

Value; Power used by a liberal in any fashion regardless of damage or peoples lives == good
Power used by conservatives == no matter what, bad.

And all the time, Patrick Fitzgerald knew that Armitage, no friend of the neo-cons, was the Plame leaker.

Yet he pursued an investigation to nail someone in the White House, and I guess she won. Sort of.

If Clinton could pardon fugitive Marc Rich in exchange for campaign contributions, well, Bush should pardon Libby, and let the LLL have a conspiracy theory melt down.

BTW, I have my theories about what motivates Fitzgerald. Andrew Sullivan Syndrome. A 45 year old Catholic American of Irish ancestry man with decent looks and a good job, who has never married?

Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia, their going after the real criminals ...

19 year old gang rape victim to be subjected to 90 lashes.

I still say that we should have invaded that cesspit first.

#7 Just_a_Grunt

Not suprised, the trial and the jury pool came from DC, so much for that whole jury of your peers thing. He was found guilty of obstruction, lying to the FBI and perjury.

Gosh, the jury deliberated for days. Would they have done that if they planned to toss the case to the prosecution?

Libby probably deserves a pardon as his convictions involve acts committed on behalf of the VP.

Let see.

An investigation continues after it is determined:
NO CRIME WAS COMMITTED

During the investigation of a non-crime, people have different recollections of events, we all know everyone remembers everything in exact detail exactly the same way.

We now have case law for the crime of not remembering the event of a non-crime the same way as another person.

Double-plus-un-good-crime-think.

Libby Guilty

Yawn. Like I care. Like anybody cares.

The only reason this has gotten ANY publicity at all is that is the Left's only criminal case involving someone in the Bush Administration. Never mind that it's about as significant as Britney Spear's shaved head.

I wonder how many poor folks think this proves that Bush outed Plame as punishment for her hubby speaking truth to the power?

#19 jehu

He was found guilty of obstruction, lying to the FBI and perjury.

Then shouldn't he get the same punishment as Bill Clinton and have to marry Hilary?

Dude, that's TOO harsh!

a caller on Rush just nailed it

scooter Libby to jail

sandy Burgler gets comminuti service

Nice job justice department!

PIMF
comminuti = community

So, let me get this straight. Two years ago, the American Left was promising that Fitzgerald would deliver Rove's head on a platter. A year ago, they said that his indicting Libby would lead to getting Cheney on the stand and possibly catching him in perjury. And now, they claim that just catching Libby is victory?

What were they going to say if Libby got off scott-free? "Well, at least we indicted him, so that means we might get Bush next!"?

Shit.

A political trial, based on damn near nothing finding Libby guilty, when in fact the MSM and people like Tim Russert are guilty of helping Patrick Nifong Fitzgerald, promote an agenda.

The Left will be ecstatic. Now their push will be onto Cheney, for whom they wished death in Afghanistan.

We truly do need to take care of the enemies from within at the same time, for 'they' as dangerous as are the enemies elsewhere.

This verdict will make a movie in the offing, a Goebbels presentation, of the finest degree.

Harry Reid, is already calling for Cheney to be next....Enemies from within.

S S S S S H H H H H I I I I I T T T T T T ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Yeah, the people that morally support the Left are going to be mutherfracking insufferable over the next few days. I do NOT look forward to it, because I'm going to have to sit right in the middle of two people that will be going into orgasmic joy over it and telling me, "See, this proves there's a culture of corruption in the White House! You can't argue with these facts! facts! facts!"

I think this verdict is going to come back to bite the left, though.

It's all about a culture of hate. And hate, naked hate, will bring the wrath of God down upon those that hate.

#26 buzzsawmonkey

It's just the Democrats exacting payback for Alger Hiss

Zing!

Ed just called Fitgerald a fagot! You heard it hear first folks. I demand LGF disassociate itself from Ed!

#55 shug 3/6/2007 09:27AM PST

a caller on Rush just nailed it

scooter Libby to jail

sandy Burgler gets comminuti service

Nice job justice department!

And Sandy Burgler was given a slap on the wrist when we thought the Republicans were in power.

zombie

Never mind that it's about as significant as Britney Spear's shaved head.

You're not into phrenology are you?

Okay now all together. Gather all of the Democrat congress critters on the front steps, Reid, Pelosi, Murtha, et al have them interlock arms and proclaim what a great victory it is for combatting the culture of corruption in Washington. They will of course not allow William Jefferson in the picture and will attempt to Photo Shop® Murtha out of the pictures while making sure there are no real estate signs or agents anywhere in sight next to Reid.
But hey it's all good. Did you hear a bunch of underprivileged, indentered servants, commonly referred to as soldiers, got killed today?

I feel sorry for Libby.

I hope he receives a light sentence, if not, Bush should pardon him.

Poor Mr. Libby! The Thought Police got him.
What's next? Future crime?

As England becomes more Orwellian each day, we, The United States of America with the majority of our citizenry functioning on the intellectual level of the Jerry Springer Show's peanut gallery, serve as the World's Court Jester and Fool, and theiron, each and every day, become more adept at an Orwellian parody in public affairs of importance.

Elect a Democric President and the circle will be complete. Parody will be reality at the stroke of a pen.

I'd give the guy five years in jail just for having the goofiest name in politics. "Scooter"? What kinda joke name is that?

#31 Distant Thunder

Fitzgerald had an old score to settle regarding this Marc Rich case - Fitzgerald was the prosecutor - Libby sought the pardon from Clinton. Bad blood. Karma.

But Fitzgerald did not decide the case, and certainly Libby had competent representation.

I'm betting Sandy Burglar is sipping a vanilla soy latte right now in some DC cafe thinking about how fair the justice system is and how Fitzie is a prosecutor's prosecutor. This stinks to high heaven. Hope his soy latte sucks.

I feel safer now, dont you?

This is what you get for trying to respond politically to a NY Times smear job.

You get criminal charges.

Prosecutors are now an unchecked political weapon.

49 Jheka

As always, Charles was on it.

Pete 54

Just sayin'...

IMMEDIATE PARDON REQUIRED

Who cares about flak from the left, Bush is going to receive *tons* ANYWAY.

#62 jehu 3/6/2007 09:29AM PST

Ed just called Fitgerald a fagot! You heard it hear first folks. I demand LGF disassociate itself from Ed!

Let's just send him off to rehab. I bet he would come out of there with some great new stories.

#37 Just_A_Grunt

How can you be guilty of perjury but not guilty of making a false statement?

I'm not sure, but I would imagine these charges apply to different incidents. Am not sure what "making a false statement" means as a legal charge, but perhaps it refers to something he said to an investigator rather than something he said under oath in the grand jury investigations (which would be perjury).

Can any lawyers confirm?

#52 zombie 3/6/2007 09:26AM PST

Libby Guilty
Yawn. Like I care. Like anybody cares.

The only reason this has gotten ANY publicity at all is that is the Left's only criminal case involving someone in the Bush Administration. Never mind that it's about as significant as Britney Spear's shaved head.

You should care when you see such a miscarriage of justice.

DUmmies wetting their panties over this...

Another verdict just in from D.C. Jury.

Neil Armstrong convicted of smuggling moon rocks into the earth. Could get 15 years.

Fitzgerald just got himself a place on the next dem president's staff..

#69 zombie,

I'd give the guy five years in jail just for having the goofiest name in politics.

Unless he rode to court on one of these beauties.

25 years for Libby. I wonder then what the editors of the NY Times will get. Let's try them next.

Whoever said he will be exonerated on appeal is stoned

On a related matter, this case was bought for one reason- politics.

The administration felt it had to push an "investigation" into the Plame fiasco, even though anyone with half a brain knew it was totally appropriate for the administration to reveal her involvement in the Wilson Niger trip.

They didnt want to appear "soft" on cases of "outing a CIA operative"

So now Libby will probably do time, probably b/c he was protecting Cheney when he lied to the investigators and the grand jury.

Again, even though there NEVER WAS ANY CRIME COMMITTED

What a load of crap this whole case has been. Total excrement.

This trial reminds me of the one that Pontius Pilate presided over.

74 dll2000

I feel safer now, dont you?

Only a little. I won't feel truly safe until they throw Plame's blabber mouth kid in jail too.

#1

Yes, Bush should pardon Libby, along with political prisoner / Boder Patrol agents Ramos & Compean.

I'm not holding my breath.

One minute the jury doesn't know what the charges are and the next minute the guy is guilty? Jeez. Anybody else have absolutely no confidence in this system? No reasonable doubt perhaps?

#55 I made the same point on the previous thread. The Libby jury was so confused (if their questions to the Judge are any indicator) there is no way he won't get another trial, and likely win on appeal. Now is a great opportunity for us to ram Mr. Burgular down the lefts throats. Is no time to play defense, offense baby!

Nice. See what happens when you take the "high road" rather than respond to dem msm lies? This was an attempted coup, and Plame, Wilson et al should have been nailed for it. But nooooo, the repubs have to make nice nice.

#31 Distantthunder

Fitzgerald had an old score to settle regarding this Marc Rich case - Fitzgerald was the prosecutor - Libby sought the pardon from Clinton. Bad blood. Karma.

Excellent point and insight.

#69 zombie

I'd give the guy five years in jail just for having the goofiest name in politics. "Scooter"? What kinda joke name is that?

What, and Spiro Agnew gets a pass? I mean, besides being dead, and all.

Not to mention Chaka Fattah, from PA's 2nd Congressional district.

Poor guy. If only he stole national secrets and destroyed them, he wouldnt been railroaded like this.

Libby.

Not sloppy.

Funny, I didn't think the Left considered perjury a crime. I mean, they didn't seem overly concerned when President Clinton got let off the hook for it after lying a Federal Grand Jury. Instead, his own party reaped the benefits of his not being brought to justice, picking up seats while the Republicans lost seats for actually trying to see justice served.

The purpose of this case is to insinuate even worse crimes by higher ups...

Don't be surprised if some liberals and Democrats say they feel sorry for Scooter Libby--he's just the fall guy for the evil Bush.

At least when Republicans get tired of losing they find a way to get really, really mad and lose some more.

zombie (#52),

Yawn. Like I care. Like anybody cares.

I care.

This is prosecutorial misconduct writ large.

Fitzgerald has had the equivalent of a temper tantrum. And unlike the rest of us, he can abuse the enormous power of his public trust to act out. His conduct — from pursuing a non-crime in the first instance and making outrageous and inflammatory statements during his press conference announcing the indictment, to dragging reporters before his grand jury to prosecuting Libby — is a textbook example of prosecutorial misconduct.

So, in the end, Fitzgerald gave largely a political speech to the jurors in what has been a political show trial. He hopes the District of Columbia jurors will so hate Dick Cheney that they will send Libby to prison. Pathetic.

MY KARMA RAN OVER MY DOGMA

74 dll2000- how in the h*ck are we going to fight back against the next attack or treat our wounded or run a military campaign against those crazies who state the ywant to kill usa off? this is the group that will do allthat?
we are in such trouble now.
more "gotcha" from the ruling elites!

what a joke. This should never have gone to trial at all.

Of course the moonbats are happy now, this is the best commie tradition, a stalinistic trial, they love it !
An investigation about a no-crime, with the judge who anyway knew who had "committed" the no-crime, leads to the prosecution of a political enemy.
Josip Vissarionovich "Stalin" is coming out of the pit, with the Twelfth, and dancing...

/the anthem of USSR is playing in background...

If only somebody had stashed some crack cocaine into his pockets he would be a free man today.
Bill didn't inhale
Obama admits drug use
Barry convicted of drug possesion
and who do the Dems go after

#101 jehu 3/6/2007 09:43AM PST

At least when Republicans get tired of losing they find a way to get really, really mad and lose some more.

They didnt even act like a party in power when they were in power.

Nevermind Bill Clinton and Sandy Burglar.

#75 Sharmuta:

Thanks. I should have looked.

#48 Ed

BTW, I have my theories about what motivates Fitzgerald. Andrew Sullivan Syndrome. A 45 year old Catholic American of Irish ancestry man with decent looks and a good job, who has never married?

Even if Fitzgerald were, in fact, gay--something for which there is, as far as I know, no evidence--how would that explain his decision to charge Libby? I don't see the connection. Can you explain?

we lost congress

Israel wasn't allowed to finish the last war.

The left would have us believe Islam isn't a threat.

Now this.

If Bagdad wasn't turning around I'd be more depressed.

DC Jury Convicts Ham Sandwich

zombie (#69),

I'd give the guy five years in jail just for having the goofiest name in politics.

What the fuck?

We lose again.

Do we ever win anything?

Does anything ever go our way. We win elections sure and then we screw things up so bad we get thrown out.

We don't go after leakers who work at the NY Times, but they can convict a guy with a bad memory of perjury.

I really have to think things over. I just think it doesn't pay to be on this side anymore.....what about me...I'm switching and going with them.....I'm guaranteed something if I switch.

'DEATH TO AMERICA"!

I feel better already.

Libby absolutely should be pardoned

My question is, can Bush wait until after the '08 election to do it? B/C if not, every GOP candidate is going to be smeared with it by the dirty Dems during the campaign

Sorry, Libby was clumsy. He handled the affair poorly early on, and left himself open to this. Silly thing about it is that there really was no reason to lie. Outing someone with a desk job and a CIA parking sticker in their window is hardly against the law (she not an undercover operative or even close to it).

On the other hand, I think the judge should take a page from the Clinton grand jury perjury, and defer sentencing til the administration is out of office... and then never do it.

Oh, and for the celebrating anti-Bush crowd, once again this conviction doesn't have squat to do with anything. It's like a police drug entrapment sting gone bad, where they find no drugs, no crimes, and arrest someone for jaywalking because they're frustrated. Aren't CIA operatives trying to muck around with domestic politics subject to some sort of penalty? It's funny that after all of this, Plame and Wilson aren't the bad guys. Seriously, if a CIA agent had dumbed up a fake mission to try to make Bill Clinton look bad, what would have happened to them?

Scooter is guilty yet Sandy Bergler is free! What a crock!

Meanwhile this guy faces up to 6 months in jail

Minneapolis An off-duty Northwest Airlines employee was arrested after a woman on a flight from Seattle complained that the man had ejaculated on her.

gross!

We wont know anything about appeals until after sentencing in June. That means that Libby's defense team has a couple of months to figure out grounds for appeal.

As for how you can be found guilt of perjury but not of making false statements, they relate to different things:

Libby was convicted of:

*obstruction of justice when he intentionally deceived a grand jury investigating the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame;

*making a false statement by intentionally lying to FBI agents about a conversation with NBC newsman Tim Russert;

*perjury when he lied in court about his conversation with Russert;

*a second count of perjury when he lied in court about conversations with other reporters.

Jurors cleared him of a second count of making a false statement relating to a conversation he had with Matt Cooper of Time magazine.

And for the record - none of this had anything to do with outing Plame's identity - that was done by Richard Armitage among others, and whose identity was known to Fitzgerald early on and yet continued to investigate nonetheless.

#92 kansas

One minute the jury doesn't know what the charges are and the next minute the guy is guilty?

My guess is that they'd had enough, and just wanted to go home.

99 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Funny, I didn't think the Left considered perjury a crime. I mean, they didn't seem overly concerned when President Clinton got let off the hook for it after lying a Federal Grand Jury.

Ah! Don't forget to factor in your moral equivalency. That was "just about sex" so it was okay because everyone lies about sex.

#120 shug 3/6/2007 09:48AM PST

Meanwhile this guy faces up to 6 months in jail

Minneapolis An off-duty Northwest Airlines employee was arrested after a woman on a flight from Seattle complained that the man had ejaculated on her.

gross!

First the Flying Imans and now the flying semen? Whats next? :-)

Damn it. I still maintain that she was 'outed' by her husband,the unlovely Joe 'Yellowcake' Wilson...

I didn't call Libby a 'faggot'. I didn't even call him a 'sperm burping butt pirate', a 'Hershey Highway Patrolman', a 'Rump Ranger' or a 'pillow biter'.

I just suggested it is unusual for Irish-Catholic men with high paying jobs without obvious physical defects to live 45 years without marrying.

But he could just have really bad halitosis, that makes it impossible for him to meet women.

Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame?

*I spit on them.*

My #68 should have closed with: Elect a Demonratic President and the circle will be complete, at the stroke of a pen, our parody will be the Bill of Rights free English reality.

#122 cartman:
The more likely scenario is that there was a lone holdout who thought that the case didn't hold.

#65 Just_A_Grunt

Did you hear a bunch of underprivileged, indentered servants, commonly referred to as soldiers, got killed today?

Yikes! That's how you refer to our all-volunteer armed forces? And yes, I did hear.

Caller on Rush just brought up the Marc Rich angle and said 'bad karma' -- LGF reader?

111 Jheka

Thanks. I should have looked.

No problem. It's an important story, and worthy of repeating.

A 45 year old Catholic American of Irish ancestry man with decent looks and a good job, who has never married?

Not that there's anything wrong with that, Ed.
I qualify for all the above and waited until I was 35.

Sometimes being single does have its advantages.

When will Joe Wilson face trial for treason, revealing classified information and lying about it in the press?

Just wondering...

And now Fitzgerald is going to go after the leaks to the NYTIMES about SWIFT, and every other confidential program they outed.

#101 jehu 3/6/2007 09:43AM PST

At least when Republicans get tired of losing they find a way to get really, really mad and lose some more.

Republicans either don't know how to fight or they're too afraid to fight, "can't we all just get along" bull crap.

Andrew Sullivan Syndrome refers to supporting George Bush, and then suddenly experiencing a 180º change of attitude over a single issue. In Sullivan's case, it was Bush refusing to support gay marriage.

Not sure where Gerald Fitzpatrick, er, Patrick Fitzgerald, got such an animus towards Bush and Cheney, but he obviously did.

If a judge asks you if you breath or if your heart beats:
TAKE THE FIFTH !

lawhawk

And for the record - none of this had anything to do with outing Plame's identity - that was done by Richard Armitage among others, and whose identity was known to Fitzgerald early on and yet continued to investigate nonetheless.

The fact that the jury was not allowed to hear weather Plame was covert or not could be an issue for appeal.

Also, I'd like to get a copy of the jury instructions....

#134 Kenneth

When will Joe Wilson face trial for treason, revealing classified information and lying about it in the press?

Day after whoever's been leaking classified info to the NY Times faces trial for treason. Or their editorial board gets charged with sedition.

PIMF!

weather should be whether....

I guess I have freezing temps on the brain. :(

FITZGERALD: 'I DO NOT EXPECT TO FILE ANY FURTHER CHARGES... THE INVESTIGATION IS INACTIVE'

I felt a great disturbance in the Farce, as if millions of liberal voices suddenly cried out in outrage and were suddenly silenced.

I didn't marry until I was 36. But I'm incredibly socially inept around woman. And first I was in the Navy six years, then college for five years, then I worked offshore weeks at a time for about two years.

I am glad to see that politics is now illegal.

So when can we expect Nancy Pelosi to be brought up on charges of lying about what she would do as speaker?

And yet Sandy Burglar skates with community service and a fine...

Senator Jay Rockefeller announces to the President of Syria our intentions to attack Iraq 13 months before the March 2003 invasion. Syria is country the US State Dept. lists as a terror supporting nation, a friendly neighbor of Saddam's Iraq, and was the only other Bathist controlled nation in the world at the time.

Verdict? No verdict, no charges, never will be...Rockefeller got away with treason.

Former National Security Advisor to President Bill Clinton, Sandy Berger, is caught stealing and subsequently destroying classified documents from the National Archives days before he is to testify before the 9-11 commission.

Verdict? He is fined 50,000 dollars and has his intelligence privileges suspended for 3 years.

Numerous CIA, DOJ, and State Dept. officials, including Paul Pillar, divulge reams of classifed and top secret information to various news outlets, including the NYT and the WaPost. Secrets exposed include the NIE program, the SWIFT program, CIA detention center locations, and troop positions in Iraq.

Verdict? No verdict, no trial, a stymied DOJ investigation...more traitors walk free.

Scooter Libby forgets what he said over the course of nearly 2 years, in which he appeared in front of the grand jury 7 times. Every prosecution witness that testifies against Libby during the trial contradicts their original statements in some way. Lead prosecutor Fitzgerald figures out within one month of the investigation that no evidence exists that would support bringing charges against any Administration figure regarding the original alleged crimes.

Verdict? Libby found guilty on 4/5 charges. Could face decades in prison.

WE SUCK!

Why Barack Obama should be careful where he goes swimming...

#115 Geepers

zombie (#69),

I'd give the guy five years in jail just for having the goofiest name in politics.

What the fuck?

It's called sarcasm! All I'm sayin' is, they're jailing him on the flimsiest pretexts -- so I concocted an even flimsier pretext.

Obviously, I don't want him actually jailed for having a goofy name.

Headline review:
WashPo

Libby Found Guilty in CIA Leak Trial

NYT

Libby Guilty of Lying in C.I.A. Leak Case

ABC, double headline:

Libby Found Guilty On Four Counts/ Vice President's Former Aide Guilty in CIA Leak Trial

starting with a single-sentence paragraph

Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff is now a convicted felon.

Fox

Jury in I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby Guilty on Four of Five Counts in CIA Leak Trial

Reads like the jury is guilty. Missing comma.
CBS, double headline

Libby Guilty In CIA Leak Case/Former White House Aide Convicted Of Perjury, Obstruction, Lying To FBI

MSNBC, double headline

Jury convicts Libby on four of five charges/Verdict in CIA leak case reached on 10th day of deliberations

#118 jackfetch

Oh, and for the celebrating anti-Bush crowd, once again this conviction doesn't have squat to do with anything.

As if substance ever matters to them. They don't care. They think they have a "scalp", that's they know.

It's like a police drug entrapment sting gone bad, where they find no drugs, no crimes, and arrest someone for jaywalking because they're frustrated.

Armitage's early admission must've deflated a lot of balloons in Fitzgerald's office. But what the hell, they had tons of money to spend, so they spent it.

Fitzgerald had an old score to settle regarding this Marc Rich case - Fitzgerald was the prosecutor - Libby sought the pardon from Clinton. Bad blood. Karma.

Could one of you various lawyers tell me how this isn't a conflict of interest? Why wasn't he recused from the case if they had a previous history?

150 zombie

I knew what you meant.

You really meant Scooter should be jailed for his goofy haircut

#150 zombie

His real name is Irving Lewis Libby. I think we can give him a pass on "Scooter."

#141 HeatherRadish

Day after whoever's been leaking classified info to the NY Times faces trial for treason. Or their editorial board gets charged with sedition.

weather bulletin from hell... still not frozen over...

#118 jackfetch 3/6/2007 09:48AM PST

Sorry, Libby was clumsy. He handled the affair poorly early on, and left himself open to this. Silly thing about it is that there really was no reason to lie. Outing someone with a desk job and a CIA parking sticker in their window is hardly against the law (she not an undercover operative or even close to it).

Even you seem unclear as to whether Libby lied or was just clumsy.

The problem isn't that Libby was clumsy, the problem is that the Prosecutor chose to go after him even after it became clear the original crime never happened.

This was a purely political trial. Even if we assume Libby lied, the fact this trial proceeded is the greater crime.

Bush is already caving... he "accepts" the verdict.

#124: How does that happen? hahahaha> You would think someone could see that coming and get out of the way. Is it too late for Monica to file charges? We are all going to be able to file a similar charge....Welcome to the 'Collective Leftist Libby Guilty Circle Jerk'

Rush just reported that at least one of the jurors has already spoken publicly, and is implying that they were going after the wrong fish. I guess the guy (a reporter, by trade) is wondering why they weren't trying Rove and/or Cheney. Sigh.

#130 JustmyView

Yikes! That's how you refer to our all-volunteer armed forces? And yes, I did hear.

No, I was channeling my liberal side. I am however thinking of switching by voter registration to Dem just so I can have a "Get out of Jail" card.
Hell what am I saying, it's a "Get out of prosecution card."

lawhawk -

Glad to see your posts - thanks for taking the time to clarify things.

Any chance that there can be an appeal based on an "entrapment" argument, where the prosecutor was simply out on a fishing expedition after having discovered Armitage was the leaker?

Pretty much all the international drinking was done in the Navy, and in the seven years since I've been married, except for the one time down at Galveston that my wife's abuelo, 'Popo', broke out the tequila, while I enjoy a mellow buzz once or twice a week, I haven't really been flat out stupid drunk.

Perjury? Too bad he wasn't a democrat president, then those charges would have just been dropped.

The matter had been closed for months since there was nothing more to investigate. The identity of the person who first exposed Plame's name was known: Armitage, and yet Fitzgerald declined to prosecute Armitage primarily because there was no crime committed.

The investigation still continued because they needed to cross and dot. Libby got caught up in all this because he gave conflicting statements that affected the course of the investigation. To Fitzgerald and his team, this presented a problem - would it be unethical as a prosecutor to let this stand. They decided to prosecute Libby on those grounds.

I don't totally buy it since the facts and circumstances appeared to be slim at best - and it came down to he-said v. he-said. However, the jury saw things differently.

Looking at the jury instructions and finding out what led them to rule in this fashion will be interesting exercises in the coming days.

More here.

Everyone should find the posts
about this on digg and bury them as spam.

Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff is now a convicted felon.

Wow. Just....wow.

Nancy Pelosivich mentioned a "culture of corruption" yet today?

Sharmuta

Fitzgerald had an old score to settle regarding this Marc Rich case - Fitzgerald was the prosecutor - Libby sought the pardon from Clinton. Bad blood. Karma.

Could one of you various lawyers tell me how this isn't a conflict of interest? Why wasn't he recused from the case if they had a previous history?

They don't have a personal history. And it was a different case. But I see your point. :)

*I am not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

I just received this from a coworker

Team,

I am sorry the Network Printer is not back up. A CYOT Ticket has been placed. Sorry for the inconvenience. Please do not print to the Network Printer.

I demand that she be charged with perjury and lying immediately. I will advise her to expect a visit from MSNBC reporters and the FBI shortly.

Ed 126

I just suggested it is unusual for Irish-Catholic men with high paying jobs without obvious physical defects to live 45 years without marrying.

If you really wanted to hurt an Irish guy you could have said he can't hold his liquor....the gay thing? Heck his next job will be as a sartorially hip, wine-sipping prosecutor on Law & Order SVU.

The jurors were prejudiced.. Just listen to this jurors' remarks.. "Libby was the fall guy, why not Rove"? They must have had a pre-conceived agenda toward the Bush admin. or a 'left-leaning' bias.
You can't have lefties as jurors against conservatives because they aren't objective.. They can't go past their feelings on anything.

#126 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

Scooter Libby is Jewish....

Richard Armitrage that skunk, is an advisor to JOhn McCain's campaign. Armitage severely wounded the administration he served--or maybe Armitage was just part of the Bush-Deranged McCain Cabal all along...--since February 2000.

Richard Armitage owes Mr. Libby, VP Cheney and the American people bigtime as he wasted people's lives and gave the Dems fake ammo with which to bash Bush.

169 loppyd

*I am not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night

ROTFLOL! Thanks.

173 revka

could the defense atty use those comments to get the verdict thrown out?

or on appeal?

Cartman

I guess the guy (a reporter, by trade) is wondering why they weren't trying Rove and/or Cheney. Sigh.

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.

If we can't get Rove or Cheney, we'll settle for this guy. Anything to discredit the Bush Administration....Anything.

Alegrias,
RIGHT ON..

Welcome to Conservapedia

What would Jack Bauer do? I'll never look at a cigar guillotine the same way again..

#146 Loppy

There you go again...

expecting MSM to be "fair and balanced"

5 degrees here in Wistah.

"And that's a killer cold" NH Channel 9 Weatherman Al Kaprilian*

* Note to Borges and other Globe hacks,this is called
attribution

Target Practice 143

LOL!

Shug,
I don't know if they can use those remarks or not.

Scooter is the standard nickname for Scott, like Smitty for those named Smith. Not sure how Libby got it.

But I knew a guy nicknamed Booger, so count your blessings.

They need some help over there.

This is the entry for Israel:

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Israel is a nation located in the Middle East. It originally started when the Hebrews migrated from Egypt out of slavery. It is the location of Jesus' birth and many other major Biblical events.

Israel was a powerful nation in the Middle East from about 1000 to 900 B.C.

It was conquered by the Romans in 200 B.C. In 1956, it became a nation again and Jews wanted to go back to the Middle East.

Today Israel is the location of intense territorial disputes between Israelis and Palestinians.

#119 LadyBird

Scooter is guilty yet Sandy Bergler is free! What a crock!

Yes, it is pretty ridiculous isnt it?

Compromise national security and get community serivce......and Scooter gets convicted for supposedly lying about a non crime.

Juror Denis (one N) Collins, with his more then 15 minutes of fame, "can't remember", from what he just stated referring to the verdict.

Prosecute...the guy is lying.

So it is now a crime to defend yourself against "war critics". Who's next?

#170 buzzsawmonkey

Ohhhh, good point.

May I join the chorus of outrage and disgust with this verdict, Fitz, and our system of "justice".

... unless this was a devious strategy from the first to get it out from a jury on appeal. for that matter, did Libby choose a jury at the outset? wouldn't he have been better off with a judge trial, what with all the comments about a DC jury being so biased anyway?

... and I thought this judge was firmly on Libby's side. Guess I was wrong. Unless there's some further ruling in short order throwing out this idiocy.

I remember the judge on fox.. (forgot his name, but he is the guy who looks like the little boy on the munsters). The judge said a long time ago that he would never allow his client to go before a grand jury and testify.. He said Libbys attorney should have never allowed him to go in front of a grand jury to begin with because they will find a way to get you into a hook so that you will come across as lying, hence this end result.. Sad, truly sad..

Listening to the first bits of the Jury, sounds like Libby was convicted of ONE thing:

Being a member of the Bush Administration!

So will the ACLU come to his aide when he is put in prison as a political prisoner?

Sharmuta

Happy to give you an afternoon laugh.

I work for a lawyer so I know a little bit about the law.

No diggs for this story? Someone should Digg it & then it will be quickly buried by the diggbats!

Methinks at least one juror lied his ass off when interviewed by the defense team during voire dire?

#163 karmic_inquisitor:

Not a chance of that happening. There was no entrapment here. All Fitzgerald did was look at statements made in the course of the investigation, compare them, and found things didn't add up. Upon further investigation, he found problems that, in his judgment were sufficient to take to a grand jury. The grand jury, which will indict a ham sandwich, did just that - but this jury found that the evidence was there to convict on 4 of 5 charges.

No, if Libby appeals, it will be on the facts and law that do not support the charges. For example, watch closely as to what the jurors say and what the jury instructions were. They may provide a hint as to what Libby's team will do in their appeal.

The defense could claim jury nullification, or ignorance of the instructions or other similar grounds in the appeal. Also, if the jurors believed that he was the fall guy for the Administration, that too could be grounds for the appeal since the jury was already biased and brought in preconceptions about the guilt or innocence of Libby. Since we're supposed to have impartial juries determining guilt or innocence on the facts and evidence admitted as such, the inclusion of information not in evidence could also be grounds.

Damn it!

Mad Scientist,

Compromise national security and get community serivce......and Scooter gets convicted for supposedly lying about a non crime.

SPOT ON! Scooter is going to prison for kind of lying about a non-crime.. They trapped him when he went in front of a grand jury.

#53 Silhouette
I wonder how many poor folks think this proves that Bush outed Plame as punishment for her hubby speaking truth to the power?

That's how this will go down in the MSM and history books.

revka

The Munsters judge is Napolitano.

And I agree with him. And if you let him go and there is a shred of doubt you plead the fifth and deal with the implications of that later.

187 Silhouette

Not that I know these things, but your right.

All Scotts are Scooter's and all Scooters are Scott's.

How Libby became a Scooter is beyond me.

Since..I'm a Scooter too....and a Scott.

Oh geez, Rush just played 'Hardball' and he is saying it is all about IRaq and why we got into IRaq in the first place.. HERE WE GO>>>>> I can hear the libs calling.."Impeach Bush, Impeach him now!"

187 Silhouette

And a Scot, and a Scoreboard....

#199 lawhawk

Thanks - figured as much, but I vaguely recall guys getting off on ABSCAM in the 70s based on "entrapment" appeals.

But I vaguely recall it, so don't put me on trial and convict me or anything.

/S

poncho512

What would Jack Bauer do? I'll never look at a cigar guillotine the same way again..

Same here!

EEEWWWWWWW.

I know I shouldn't have gone there, but the KOSkiddies are having a BALL..

one down, Cheney next and IMPEACH BUSH!

I could only stomach a dozen posts...

YIKES!

I have to pat myself on the back...

#100 ibrodsky 3/6/2007 09:43AM PST

The purpose of this case is to insinuate even worse crimes by higher ups...

Don't be surprised if some liberals and Democrats say they feel sorry for Scooter Libby--he's just the fall guy for the evil Bush.

It was only moments later that a juror in the trial said what I predicted.

What more proof of bias and miscarriage of justice could anyone need? What business do jurors have pontificating about people who weren't indicted and weren't on trial? If the jurors believe this, then they know they were just punishing Libby as a stand-in.

loppyd,
Thanks for the clarification.. I like Judge Napolitano by the way.
So, you are saying he could have gone and plead the fifth which would have been the smartest move since there was doubt on his part. Man, he got screwed. I think he probably just wanted to tell the truth and get it over with and fell into their trap.

Elect a Demonratic President and the circle will be complete, at the stroke of a pen, our parody will be the Bill of Rights free English reality.

There, fixed that for you

:)

Q: So how soon will Scooter Libby show up on this page?

A: Never.

#199 lawhawk

How's come the defense didn't seek a change of venue for this trial like east hicktown ND?

#174 NY Nana

Your wikipedia link about Libby shows the insane bias that can crop up there! Check out the first phrase of Libby's bio on wikipedia:

Irve Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Jr. (born August 22, 1950) is a Jewish American convicted criminal

Digital brownshirts strike again!

Endangered in MASS

It was 6 when I left the house this morning.

Heading over the border to check out a car later on.

Now that should be fun on a day like today.

OT:

France bans citizen journalists from reporting violence

The French Constitutional Council has approved a law that criminalizes the filming or broadcasting of acts of violence by people other than professional journalists. The law could lead to the imprisonment of eyewitnesses who film acts of police violence, or operators of Web sites publishing the images, one French civil liberties group warned on Tuesday.

"Acts of violence by people other than professional journalists"? I thought all professional journalists were peace-loving beatniks!

#181 Ben Hur

Thanks! I kind of like the very serious :) Uncyclopedia...

Libby would have a much easier time finiding sympathy from the media and the left had he executed a policeman in cold blood. He might even get an NPR gig.

Yeah, they believe in justice.

Matthews just compared Libby to....ALGER HISS!

Ill take it further and compare Matthews to...a COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOT

I know that the trial-by-jury-of-your-peers thing has a long and illustrious history, but in the context of our rapidly-decaying (government-edjoocumated) culture, isn't it sort of a crapshoot to explain a complicated case to a bleacher-full of turnips and expect a rational outcome?

I suspect that quite a few of these jurors had a hard time understanding the charges, let alone what Libby might or might not have done to instigate them.

This argument can be derived from the whole discussion about mob rule (democracy) vs. federal republicanism.

DRUDGE has some interesting and apalling comments supposedly from the jurors - "sucks" because they weren't allowed to nail Rove. Gosh, so they made an example of Libby? Is that what they're saying, really?
Wow! That's Justice! The mob thinks your neighbor did something,and they're soo sure, but they can't get him, they just know, so they lynch you instead as a consolation gesture.

If that's the face of the future of American justice, the citizens of this country are screwed. If the Republican Party doesn't fight back, with brains and savvy, it better get used to growing tomatoes in the Gulag. A real one.

I know alot of folks are anti-RUsh, but he is offering by far the most accurate overview of what this case is about right now

196 loppyd

I work for a lawyer so I know a little bit about the law.

Well? Which one is it? You work for a lawyer or you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Call a Grand Jury!

;)

#219 JWF -

Comment of the day, that one is.

/Yoda

ibrodsky,
the scary thing about this is that what you have said about this miscarriage of justice is true.

In this day and age, hatred for Bush is so prevalent that people like this juror will throw away total objectivity to bring Bush down somehow even if it means bringing down an innocent man. NOW THAT IS SCARY. That means Fitzgerald can take this further and do whatever he wants to the administration. I will bet he will. I will bet the libs will urge Fitz. to take this further. This is wrong.

But on to some real news. It looks like the traveling road show known as Hillary and Obama will be courting the Jewish voters next week like they did the black vote this week. i don't know what the over/under is on which one will be first to speak Yiddish or Hebrew.

FREE SCOOTER!

Zombie

Irve Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Jr. (born August 22, 1950) is a Jewish American convicted criminal

Grrr.....

revka

I like him, too. He reminds me of a judge up here in MA who is very likeable and fair - not something you will hear me say very often in these parts!

Hindsight is 20/20 and you can't unring a bell as my brother likes to say. Now it's time to look at all possible issues for appeal. His lawyer is already filing a motion for a new trial, which will probably be denied forthwith.

214 jrdroll

Remember the incredibly ignorant jury that convicted Lt. Col. Oliver North?

More reporters embrace an advocacy role

#223 TMF

I know alot of folks are anti-RUsh, but he is offering by far the most accurate overview of what this case is about right now

You're right. He's all over it this afternoon.

#227 Just_A_Grunt

I want to hear Hillary say "Oy-vay".

#203 loppyd:

And if you let him go and there is a shred of doubt you plead the fifth and deal with the implications of that later.

I thought the Fifth (and defense maneuvers in general) weren't available before the grand jury, since it isn't the trial itself.

Zombie

Now compare that with this:

Mohamed Atta (محمد عطا السيد transliteration: Muhammad `Ata as-Sayyid) (September 1, 1968 – September 11, 2001) was named by the FBI as the head suicide terrorist of American Airlines Flight 11, the first plane to crash into the World Trade Center during the September 11, 2001 attacks. He grew up in Egypt and moved to Germany to earn his master's degree. While in Germany, Atta became a very passionate believer in militant Islam.

Can it be any clearer?

Also, is Fitz's comment that the investigation is "inactive" a veiled threat? Can it be fired up at any time for the next 100 years or beyond if the Dems want another hit job performed? Carte blanche to ruin anyone at taxpayer's expense.

#165 TGregg 3/6/2007 10:03AM PST

Perjury? Too bad he wasn't a democrat president, then those charges would have just been dropped.

They would have. Doubel standards you know

Journalists shouldn't allowed on juries.

Ah! Rush agrees.

219 JWF

He might even get an NPR gig.

Or a street named after him.

In other totally unrelated news: Dice K on the mound for the BoSox today.

OT Obama

Foreign policy training in the streets
Ed Lasky
New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof says ($link) that Barack Obama is qualified to lead nation's foreign policy because he was a Jakarta "street kid" for 4 years, and is charmed to learn that the candidate regards the sound of the Arabic call to prayer "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset." No kidding.

In some respects, Mr. Obama is far more experienced than other presidential candidates. [....]

In foreign policy as well, Mr. Obama would bring to the White House an important experience that most other candidates lack: he has actually lived abroad. He spent four years as a child in Indonesia and attended schools in the Indonesian language, which he still speaks.

"I was a little Jakarta street kid," he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, [Link: www.nytimes.com...] He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics - and more likely to be aware of their nationalism - if he once studied the Koran with them.

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset."

This reminds me of Nancy Pelosi's comments that the gavel of the Speaker of the House will now be in the hands of America's children". Or Jimmy Carter's reliance on his daughter Amy regarding nuclear arms control policy in 1980. The Democratic Platform: Let's just put the kids in charge!

Then there is this:

What sets Mr. Obama apart is the way his training has been at the grass-roots rather than in the treetops. And that may be the richest kind of background of all, yielding not just experience, but also wisdom.

If a Republican had used the word "treetops" in connection to Obama wouldn't he be accused of using a word redolent of racism?

Kristof also makes this puzzling observation:

Our biggest mistake since World War II has been a lack of sensitivity to other people's nationalism, from Vietnam to Iraq.

Does Kristof refer here to Muslim (religious) extremism as nationalism? What kind of "nationalism" are we fighting now? This makes sense only if Kristof buys into the concept of the legitimacy of one Muslim nation - the Ummah - that has served as a rallying cry for Al Qaeda and its ilk.

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

#232 Kragar (proud to be kafir) 3/6/2007 10:24AM PST

More reporters embrace an advocacy role

Thats why I dont believe what they write, they have an agenda.

sinking feeling in pit of stomach

'FREE SCOOTER' bumper stickerss for sale. Get your 'FREE SCOOTER' bumper stickers before they run out.

zombie (#150),

Ah. I've got a no register on sarcasm when it comes to prosecutorial misconduct.

NY Nana:

In Ed's original post (#48) he was talking about Fitzgerald, not Libby (being Catholic rather than Jewish). Unless, of course, his real name is ben-Fitzgeraldbergsteinbaum.

Here is a link to Amnesty International's US contact page.

[Link: web.amnesty.org...]

Let them know you think that Scooter Libby will be a political prisoner if he goes to prison given the statements from his jury.

#222 wanumba

If that's the face of the future of American justice, the citizens of this country are screwed.

We can thank the OJ jury for setting the standard.

Realistically, how much behind bar time is Libby looking at for perjury?

Yes, on paper he could get 30 years, but is that even the slightest bit realistic?

Does *anyone* get tossed away for a long time for this?

What's the "real world" sentence expected here?

Hey, Martha Stewart got convicted of lying about a non-crime too. What was her sentence?

Ooops, I called 'Fitzgerald' by the name Libby. I see the correction "Libby is Jewish", and think, what does that have to do with Fitzgerald being light in the loafers, and I see I typed 'Libby' instead of Fitzgerald.

mea culpa. Mistakes were made. I take full responsibility for my actions.

So what do you guys think of the fact that one of the jurors was a journalist who has a book about the history of bad secret-agenting coming out?

His name, apparently, is Dennis Collins.

This guy should never have been on the jury.

I think Libby will win on appeal, so everything will be fine. I am headed to my fridge to get 100k out for Scooters defense. I might drop by and see what archives can be disappeared to help the guy out.

#251 funky chicken 3/6/2007 10:30AM PST

Hey, Martha Stewart got convicted of lying about a non-crime too. What was her sentence?

A year at Camp Cupcake

#221 Malatrope

I know that the trial-by-jury-of-your-peers thing has a long and illustrious history, but in the context of our rapidly-decaying (government-edjoocumated) culture, isn't it sort of a crapshoot to explain a complicated case to a bleacher-full of turnips and expect a rational outcome?

Have you seen the Mike Judge movie 'Idiocracy'?

Scooter needs to write a children's book.

#206 scoreboard44

;-)

I'm not a Scott or a Scot, but I do use scotch tape.

232 Kragar

I'm all for advocacy journalism as long as the journalist is up-front about her/his role.

I guess another juror has stated something to the effect that he was excited by the prosecution's opening arguments, as he and other jurors thought the trial might lead to Bush testifying. As we are wont to say here at LGF, you just can't make this shit up!

#252 Ed Mahmoud abu al Qahool Martyr Brigades

Ed - just admit it. you lied. in a political context.

/ever been drunk in prison?

OT mother of the year:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I'm so glad she has 5 children. I'm sure they've had very stable home lives.

@252

Mistakes were made. I take full responsibility for my actions.

Off to rehab.

(Sighs deeply) The really bad news is that this guilty verdict translates into another 15 minutes of fame for Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame.

252 Ed I wondered how Scooter Libby was an Irish Catholic name.

Scooter needs to write a children's book.

"Scooter Goes To Leavenworth".

Lieing about a non-crime is now a crime. Wow. We now live in the USFA....the United Soviet Fascists of America.

264 Dirk Oy, you're right. We will have to look at their smug faces yet again.

Wow. I guess a lot of folks really don't care much about this. Frankly, that surprises me.

Victor_Yugo

You can plead the fifth, but your lawyer cannot be present to tell you when to plead the fifth....or object or do a cross examination/redirect.

260 Cartman Group LGF prayer: Please, Lord, save me from ever relying upon the wisdom of a jury for any reason.

#256 HeatherRadish

Have you seen the Mike Judge movie 'Idiocracy'?

One of my new favorites! Two words - "President Camacho!"
I just don't think that it'll take 500 years to get to the point when "Fuddruckers" becomes....

106 elBarto 3/6/2007 09:45AM PST

what a joke. This should never have gone to trial at all.

The funny thing is, the one juror that did end up talking to the press afterwards (who was a reporter himself) even said that several on the juror team said what you said above lol.

I think Bush will pardon him but not until the end of his term. It's funny how the dems are already calling for Bush to say whether he'll pardon him or not.

The republicans just have no more balls, they are too busy being apologists. I also am still ticked off that some of them pretended to have the power to apologize for Coulter...when they should have been hammering that imam, maher, and many other dems that are truly crooks and american haters.

NomadOfNorad

This guy should never have been on the jury

If he lied on his questionnaire that may be grounds for a new trial.

#217 victor_yugo

France bans citizen journalists from reporting violence

Does that mean the police will raid the Louvre & remove paintings like this? Which, incidentally also depicts a negative stereotype of dissaffected "youts"

#256 HeatherRadish

(lgf ate my first response...apologies if dual-posted)

I haven't seen Idiocracy, but I will sure as hell add it to my Netflix queue. Thanks!

15 minutes of fame?

How about 15 more years? We have book deals, movies deals, DVDs, probable sequels, more Vanity Fair covers, Keith Olbermann publicly fellating Joe Wilson, box seats for the Rodham inauguration, a star on Hollywood Boulevard, cable shows, Grammys, Emmys, Nobel Peace Prizes, Academy Awards, Daytime Emmys, , children's books, Profiles in Courage Awards, streets named after them.

269 Cartman I care about it as a case of prosecutor-run-amok. Like the Martha Stewart case, or the Duke non-rape case, the let's-get-Rush-Limbaugh case, and likely the Corey Maye case in MS.

I feel terrible for Mr. Libby, but he is a smart guy and a lawyer who told several different stories to a prosecutor and grand jury. It's kind of like yelling at a cop when you get pulled over ... dumb.

Actually the Juror's own post trial remarks may be sufficient evidence of prejudice to warrant a new trial...
If they're smart they'll ask for a change of venue to Texas or nearly anywhere but the D.C. area...

See #48 and #62.

I blame the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy.

121 lawhawk 3/6/2007 09:49AM PST

Jurors cleared him of a second count of making a false statement relating to a conversation he had with Matt Cooper of Time magazine.

I was cracking up when the juror came out and talked about why they found this count not guilty...basically comparing the credibility, Matt Cooper's was not credible. He went into the details of why and it was even more amusing. Matt Cooper looks pretty stupid right about now.

Pardon him, Mr President. Pardon him NOW. On principle.

#210 ibrodsky

What more proof of bias and miscarriage of justice could anyone need? What business do jurors have pontificating about people who weren't indicted and weren't on trial? If the jurors believe this, then they know they were just punishing Libby as a stand-in.

Not necessarily. They could very well believe that Libby was guilty as charged but that other people should also have been charged.