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Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 4:27:18 pm PDT

The Democrats seem to be setting up a separate government with its own suicidally blind idea of who’s a terrorist and who isn’t (basically, nobody is), as Nancy Pelosi makes plans to meet with the chinless ophthalmologist of Syria: Speaker Pelosi Traveling to Middle East. (Hat tip: LGF readers.)

ABC News’ Jonathan Karl Reports: ABC News has learned Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi plans to visit Syria next week to meet with Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad.  The visit will make Pelosi the most senior U.S. official ever to meet with President Assad. 

Pelosi will be traveling to Syria has part of Congressional delegation.  On the trip, she also plans to visit several other countries in the region, including Israel, where she will deliver a speech to the Knesset.

Pelosi’s visit to Syria would come as the United States has severed high-level contacts with Assad’s government. 

Al Jazeera is all over this news.

And Allahpundit, as usual, has more.

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1 NoSubmission  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:28:03pm

Maybe she needs to get her eyes checked.

2 missouri boy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:30:49pm

Maybe , they will keep her!

3 HL Mencken  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:31:00pm

this woman truly is delusional, as her recent comments have confirmed. she literally thinks she's in charge.

4 wanumba  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:31:14pm

Pelosi is attempting a Constituional coup, to set herself up as de facto president, an attempt to take over the executive branch responsibilities. It is the duty of the White House to fight this. Checks and Balances! It means something!

5 ceemack  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:31:35pm

Would someone please take this woman aside and explain that she was made Speaker of the House...that she was NOT elected President?

6 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:31:51pm
7 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:32:17pm
8 vxbush  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:32:27pm

Uh...excuse me? These sound like the delusions of the left, complaining about imperialist Bush.

Can we take a moment and breathe, please?

9 Carolina Girl  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:33:11pm

I think President Bush and the Cabinet should immediately commence writing and enacting funding bills for the military. After all, if the Speaker of the House is going to conduct foreign policy...

10 Gozer the Carpathian  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:33:50pm

Well I hope she enjoys her stay over there. Perhaps she can be convinced to extend her visit?

11 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:33:51pm

The Season for Treason

I'd wish she and Nostrilitus Waxman were taken hostage, but I'm not like them.

These people are a disgrace.

12 markx  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:34:00pm

It would be great if the Brits decided to act on Iran during her stay.

13 dead sea squirrel  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:34:13pm

Not to worry, folks. I'm sure Nancy is going into this with her eyes wide open. Can't help it, actually.

14 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:34:35pm
15 ironbill  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:34:41pm

While our soldiers are being killed with the assistance of the Syrian government this moron sends them the message that democrats will surrender. You stupid B***.

16 BuddyG  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:35:47pm
17 WrathofG-d  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:36:00pm

* * Irony Alert * *

Wasn't Nancy Pelosi just last week lecturing George Bush and the Executive Branch over the seperations of power and how the different branches worked? Something like: "This is Congresses job...get used to it".

Dang it would be great if someone could find that link. CNN? CSPAN?

18 ted  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:36:13pm

Sorry for the early OT:

OT: Loseweek moonbat rants over Iran:

Brinksmanship Doesn’t Always End in Battle
America and Iran are barreling toward a collision. It doesn't have to be this way.

By Michael Hirsh
Newsweek
Updated: 8:30 p.m. ET March 29, 2007


March 29, 2007 - Is war between the United States, its allies and Iran inevitable? It certainly feels that way right now. This is a tit-for-tat escalation right out of the textbook. Since Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Navy seized 15 British sailors in the Persian Gulf last week, Tehran has paraded the captives before TV cameras and elicited apologies from them in a way that probably violates the Geneva Conventions (which bar humiliating treatment of prisoners). Iran’s armed forces have fired off new test missiles, while George W. Bush has put on the biggest show of U.S. naval power in the Gulf in years.

British sailors have been detained before, most recently in a similar Gulf incident in 2004. But this time, Tehran shows no sign of releasing its prisoners soon. The standoff is expected to continue while the United States holds Iranian personnel inside Iraq under mysterious circumstances and British Prime Minister Tony Blair petitions the United Nations to secure his sailors’ freedom, rather than talking directly with Tehran. Blair’s approach to the U.N. will only aggravate the dispute, says one international diplomat who is familiar with Tehran’s thinking, who requested anonymity when speaking of such sensitive matters. After last week’s second resolution against its nuclear program, Iran takes a particularly dim view of the Security Council. Not surprisingly, Iran abruptly dropped a conciliatory offer to release the lone female prisoner, and Tehran’s chief nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, warned that the prisoners now “may face a legal path”—a clear threat to prosecute them, possibly as spies. “The British have got to come down from their high horse. They’ve got to work at solving this bilaterally,” says the international diplomat. “They shouldn’t take the higher moral ground.” [Link: [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]...]

19 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:36:18pm

I hope Israelis give her the same warm welcome Bush got in Latin America.

20 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:36:39pm
21 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:37:37pm
Traveling with Pelosi will be Congressmen Keith Ellison (D-MN), Nick Rahall (D-WV), Tom Lantos (D-CA), Henry Waxman (D-CA), and David Hobson (R-OH).


Only one R.

22 wvobiwan  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:38:04pm

Pelosi is a Democrat - Democrats support terrorism, nuclear Iran, and the emasculation of our military and nation.

Don't vote Democrat - ever.

23 NoSubmission  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:38:27pm

She probably trying to get away from Camp CodePink on her lawn.

24 Ojoe  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:39:12pm

Violationof the Logan Act.

When we should appear, and need to be, united and strong.

Copperhead.

As long as I shall vote, I shall never forget these days.

25 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:40:00pm

sickening idiot. like she has anything heartfelt and worthwhile to say to israel.

26 RTLM  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:40:32pm

Freakin' amateur hour!
Check the collection of LLL morons that's going along.
Waxman, Ellison, Nadler, etc...

She finally gets her damn 757 now.

27 Black George Bush  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:40:37pm

As I always say, we dont need to worry, San Fran Nan is on the case.

Maybe we can put her on a boat and send her to Amadinajad?! Who am i kidding, the Iranians would just send her back.

28 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:40:58pm
29 Sheldon  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:41:22pm

Who/whom will fetch her back if she's kidnapped?

30 blutonazi98  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:41:30pm

at least they have ellison with them

31 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:41:35pm

Trout

Congressman Hobson serves on the House Appropriations Committee. He is the Ranking Member of the Energy and Water Development Appropriations Subcommittee, and is also a senior Member of the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee.


Hobson

32 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:42:56pm
33 mrclark  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:42:58pm

The President must have plans for some kind of action in the ME.

The last time a Democrat went into Syria was on the eve of the Iraq war...and he warned the Syrians... How can Harry Reid not be considered a traitor for that?

34 ArmyWife  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:43:04pm

Why don't we ask the British Sailors if these people can be persuaded simply by sitting down and "talking"? If these people are so reasonable and open to dialogue, perhaps Nancy would like to go there and pursue a position as, oh I don't know, Empress of the Delusional. She can take Rosie O'Donnell with her as her head of state as Ms. O'Donnell trusts the
Iranians more than our government. I'll buy the plane tickets, who'd like to help them pack?

35 galloping granny  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:43:12pm

Someone should force Pelosi to read the Constitution, you know the part where it outlines just exactly WHO is responsible for diplomacy. This is an outrage. Nancy Pelosi is NOT the President of the United States, nor has she been appointed by either him or the American People to carry out diplomatic missions on our behalf.

She should be impeached and tried for treason!

36 mama winger  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:44:08pm

For all of you who back in November said there was no reason to vote, and who wanted to teach the Republicans a lesson...

Thank you.

37 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:45:29pm

#31 St. Pancake
REMARKS BY CONGRESSMAN DAVE HOBSON ON HOUSE CON. RES. 63 – IRAQ WAR RESOLUTION

Like Mr. Shays, I rise in opposition to this resolution. This is the wrong resolution to be considering if we in Congress are supposed to be fulfilling our responsibility to provide oversight on how this war is being conducted.

Rather than debating the so-called "surge," which is already taking place, we should be debating how to put a policy in place that will bring stability to Iraq and ensure the security of the American people.


Well, at least he's not a complete jerk.

38 GreenSoccer  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:46:36pm

Not only is Britain a paper tiger but what would you call the US at this point? And they are leaning on Israel with their misguided suicidal Saudi inspired plans.

Shouldn't we have a national mourning day or an international mourning day for western civilization?
Sorry to be so depressing heading into Passover and Easter.

39 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:46:48pm
40 ArmyWife  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:46:57pm

#8 vxbush

Not so much. We haven't wished her dead, nor have we wished a horrific disease upon her, nor have we wished giant dinosaurs come along and eat her (well, maybe that, but a little fantasizing is ok now and again).

Breathe nothing. This woman is going and putting you, me and everyone else in this Country at risk because she thinks her charm and wiles will somehow make these people love us. She is dangerous. I volunteer to inform her she is Speaker of the House, NOT President, NOT Queen, but Speaker.

41 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:47:03pm
The Democrats seem to be setting up a separate government with its own suicidally blind idea of who’s a terrorist and who isn’t (basically, nobody is)


Charles
you should put the
Are you Blind too ?
graphic back up for this one
the one with the moonbats jumping over
Jihad AntiWar scarf cliff

I like that photoshop ...whoever did it...

42 Ojoe  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:47:13pm

36 mamawinger

As a people are not seeming to learn the smaller lessons & I am afraid we will need to be instructed again with a big one.

But I hope not.

43 RTLM  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:47:45pm

Bush should issue a standing order forbidding any Air Force pilot to land on Syrian soil.

Let her take Syrianair

44 FrogMarch  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:47:55pm

Well, The Pelosi Democrats and the terrorists flowing across the border into Iraq ARE on the same side.

45 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:49:16pm

#1 NoSubmission

Maybe she needs to get her eyes checked.

Very clever! lol

Good Evening, Lizards!

It's been a long time since I've posted, but my wife's away, and I'm allowed to play. I've got some crackers, a glass of scotch on the rocks, and I'm listening to the King Crimson's CD, "Lizard". I'm ready to party!

46 RedinCAf  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:49:17pm

Why is it that Democratic politicians always want to suck up to governments that are openly hostile to the U.S? They should leave the diplomacy to the DIPLOMATS. That's their JOB. And foreign policy is the POTUS' job. Pelosi needs to do HER job, not try to do everyone else's.

Or maybe it IS just an excuse to run away from Code Pink. A terrifying lot, they are.

47 mjk  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:49:40pm

Come on. Talking with the Arab leaders in the Middle East totally makes it all peaceful and junk. Look at Israel and Palestine. Talking and negotiating with Arafat toally worked.

(do you need to know that I'm being sarcastic?)

48 galloping granny  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:49:48pm
#39 savage_nation 3/30/2007 04:46PM PDT

#35 granny


Nancy Pelosi is NOT the President of the United States, nor has she been appointed by either him or the American People to carry out diplomatic missions on our behalf.

Do you realize that skank is 3rd in line to the throne? If Bush and Cheney die or are incapacitated, say hi to President Pelosi.

Ready for that scenario?

Yes I do. I went and looked it up a week or two back and posted the succession, back when Cheney was in the hospital.

49 NoSubmission  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:50:05pm

OT
... but speaking of traitors,
Here is the webpage for The View. You'll see on the upper left where you can 'Email Your View' to the hosts... all of them except Rosie that is. Gee, I wonder why?

50 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:50:38pm

"seem to be" is an understatement. BUT will Bush find the grit to shine light on this shadow -- or will he just keep on apologizing ad infinitum?

51 Noamnesty  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:50:41pm

Just visiting there leader.

52 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:50:42pm
53 FrogMarch  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:50:54pm

The Democrats foreign policy strategy is Jimmy Carter to the core. Talking. Understanding. Tea-sipping. That will save us.

The current crop of lefty- Democrats ARE Jimmy Carter, redux.

54 Irene NYC  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:51:18pm

There's not much I can personally do to overturn what Pelosi has done this week, but I can try to blunt her sneaky, underhanded vote of no confidence on our brothers and sisters in arms by sending packages and letters to them in Iraq and Afghanistan and letting them know how much we appreciate their work and love them as America's best.

If you would like to write or send a package to our fighting forces abroad, one place for info is AnySoldier.com.

55 jrdroll  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:51:22pm

That last bit of flatulence I had I dedicate to sanfrannan.

56 eastvillageinfidel  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:51:23pm

Forget her patriotism, can we question her sanity now? What a grandiose buffoon.

57 goodbye_natalie  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:52:01pm
who’s a terrorist and who isn’t (basically, nobody is)

Wrong. George Bush, Evangelical Christians/Zionists (especially Jewish ones), Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin, and Charles Johnson.

58 WrathofG-d  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:52:01pm

The issues taking place now are much much larger then either Pelosi or Bush.

This is the part that I think many Republicans and most Democrats are missing. These types of actions are not a "finger in the eye" of George Bush and his war but instead a "finger in the eye" of loyalty to the United States, its Constitution, and the entire idea of American Democracy. We have a system that has sustained us for over 100 years and helped the United States accomplish more in that time then most countries have done in 1000s of years. The childish, and partisian one-downmanship that is taking place these days is ripping apart our great nation.

The irony of a Democratic congress destroying the foundation of our Government and the Constitution after 6 years of claiming that the Republicans were doing just that would be hillarious if the results weren't going to be so destructive.

Something needs to be done.

59 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:52:01pm

she's so gd arrogant and stupid to think she's going to just hot box it over there and get anything done except trouble for us. she's a dangerous fool. it really is becoming the theater of the absurd.

60 samhein  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:53:04pm

What in the hell is wrong with Pelosi? As some have said, maybe they'll keep her. Bush ma not be handling it all so well either, but she is trouble and will cause even more danger.

61 Irene NYC  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:53:56pm

nyc redneck

So, you gonna be downtown manana?

62 goodbye_natalie  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:54:42pm

I'm telling you that Nancy Pelosi's biggest problem (besides she's a breeding lib) is that the woman is a complete moron.

Have you ever listened closely to her without the cue card? It would be laughable if she weren't so dangerous. The left claims George Bush mumbles? He's Patrick Henry next to this POS.

63 shug  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:54:57pm

Can't wait to see Pelosi in her hijab.
That ought to go over really well with her feminist friends in marin county

64 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:55:20pm

kayawanee
Howdy, and it has been a long time. Welcome back.

Howdy, Savage
Howdy, Irene

65 ArmyWife  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:55:31pm

#57 Goodbye_Natalie

you forgot Rove! And Halliburton! And Cheney! And the Military! Oh the list goes on and on...

I second Mama Winger's comments. F'n thanks.

66 FrogMarch  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:55:51pm

Pelosi and crew have a lot to share with Assad. In particular, the Democrats need to thank Assad in person for helping to destroy Iraq.

67 Irene NYC  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:55:56pm

Back at ya, St. P!

68 summergurl  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:56:05pm

Maybe someone will slap a burqa on her and get her to make some falafels.

69 maredneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:56:31pm

I am shocked. I really didn't think the Dems could go so far. What's next? Iran? N Korea? This is a sad day.

70 WrathofG-d  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:56:51pm

oh gooodie...I like falafel!

71 mama winger  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:57:29pm

I have come to accept the fact that we are doomed.

Cheers !

72 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:58:12pm

40

Go ARMY!

I second that emotion!

73 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:58:16pm

OT ; Hamas issues warning to lift ban

Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh issued a vague warning on Friday that Hamas would reassess its options if economic sanctions were not lifted on the Palestinian unity government within two to three months.

Haniyeh did not say what the Islamic group would do if his timeline was not met, but a top aide, Ghazi Hamad, said dissolving the unity government was not an option.

"If the siege continues for two to three more months, we will study our options... and we will take a decision that will protect our dignity and will protect our interests," Haniyeh said without elaborating.

the biggest welfare scam in history.

74 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:58:47pm

#61 hey irenenyc, yeah i'll be at ground zero am morgen w/ 3 other patriots. i've never been to a rally before. can't wait to unfurl my flag. are you coming?

75 LiberalLogic  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 2:58:57pm

Will they make her wear the hijab? I mean, anything so that we don't have to see her face, right?

--Jon

76 ArmyWife  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:00:10pm
The visit will make Pelosi the most senior U.S. official ever to meet with President Assad.

Could this be because most senior U.S. Officials know extending diplomacy to enemies of our Country is treasonous? Is it because once you are a senior U.S. Official you typically have YOUR countries best interests as a top priority?

77 NoSubmission  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:00:36pm

Why, she's heading over to meet her constituents of course!

78 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:01:15pm
79 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:01:38pm

#64 St. Pancake

kayawanee, Howdy, and it has been a long time. Welcome back.

Thanks, and sorry about ignoring ya'll. I don't mean to, but my wife loves computer Scrabble. That pretty much keeps me off the web every night.

But I'm here now, the scotch is starting to kick in, and the song "Lizard", is now playing on my CD player.

80 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:02:03pm

#69 hey maredneck, from one redneck to another.

81 mama winger  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:02:16pm

You're a rich girl
and you've gone too far
and you know it don't matter anyway

you can rely on the old man's money

it's so easy to hurt others when you can't feel pain

82 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:02:23pm
83 Irene NYC  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:03:12pm

#74 nyc redneck

I plan on being there, however, I don't have a flag. *sigh*
But I'll find something red white and blue!

So, let's see, a quartet unfurling a flag, with at least one newbie? Maybe I'll spot you!
;)

84 AuntAcid  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:04:04pm

So in essence, she is the Vice-Vice President. hmmm?

85 kirche  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:04:06pm

ominous timing for pelosi & co. to be going there... the first week of april may be the week our strike groups' go after irans' nuclear program.

pelosi (and ellison) just may find themselves behind not-so-hospitable enemy lines when the shooting starts in a middle east hold 'um poker game:

iran: opening bet of 15 british sailors...

syria: raise you with US speaker of the house plus several more congressmen...

iran: all in!

86 odhran  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:05:03pm

Will she be laying a wreath at Arafat's grave, too?

Why the hell would the Knesset even want her delivering a speech?

Why the hell are our elected officials meeting with our enemies?

I guess there must be a lull in non-binding legislation. Maybe she's on a celebration tour with our foes in light of her anti-American legislation...

87 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:05:59pm

Only 18 months to Armmagedon

88 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:06:37pm

Are you ready for the next SCANDAL, "crying for impeachment"?!

AP: Gen. tried to warn Bush on Tillman

SAN JOSE, Calif. - Just seven days after Pat Tillman's death, a top general warned there were strong indications that it was friendly fire and President Bush might embarrass himself if he said the NFL star-turned-soldier died in an ambush, according to a memo obtained by The Associated Press.

It was not until a month afterward that the Pentagon told the public and grieving family members the truth — that Tillman was mistakenly killed in Afghanistan by his comrades.

The memo reinforces suspicions that the Pentagon was more concerned with sparing officials from embarrassment than with leveling with Tillman's family.

89 Irene NYC  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:06:41pm

#85 kirche

That would be something to see! The Chinless Wonder holding an even better hand than the mullahs. The question is, who would be slower in getting them back, Blair or Bush?

90 laxmatt1984  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:06:46pm

Does any know what's on the itinerary for this trip? I have been looking all over for some kind of agenda for discussion and found nothing. It almost seems like Pelosi and Al-Assad will have a nice little photo-op of them drinking tea together then stare awkwardly at each over until the hour meeting is over.

Here's a fun game: let's pretend you are Nancy Pelosi. What do you say to Al-Assad? Personally, I would say "You have been used your entire career as head of state of Syria. You let Saddam use you, and now you're letting the Iranians use you. Do you think the Iranians would let you be Viceroy of Syria if their expanionist ambitions are met? Do you honestly think the Iranians want anyone in power other than the Guardian Council? Take a hint from Dubai. When you Arabs simply act normal you have enough resource wealth to build indoor ski slopes. Instead you have pissed away your wealth and prestige on a silly, aggressive Pan-Arabism that none of your older fellow Arab heads of state believe in anymore. Simply pathetic. You could have been one of the greatest statesmen in modern Arab history: you're Western educated, young, and you speak English. You could have been the great emancipator of Syria. Instead you act like a clown in service of obsolete ideals. Pathetic."

91 maredneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:07:28pm

#80
Hey! I noticed your nic. Good taste we larnt up heah in yankeeland, huh? I havn't posted in a while. Figured our dear leader Nancy was scandal enough to awaken me from my slackjawed torpor and comment a bit.
I live in Boston, but last summer I had an apt W 76th St. for a month. I love NYC. Churrascaria Plataforma! OMG.

92 CommonCents  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:07:39pm

36 mama winger

I'll second that mama. Thanks a freakin' lot.

The saying/song goes, "You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything." It's obvious to me that the Democrats don't stand for anything. Now they're off to listen to some taqqiya.

93 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:07:41pm

83 irenenyc,, yeh, neat! see you tomorrow and hope we get a big happy crowd.

94 rickl  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:07:54pm
#85 kirche

pelosi (and ellison) just may find themselves behind not-so-hospitable enemy lines when the shooting starts in a middle east hold 'um poker game.


Thanks for that. Now I can sleep peacefully tonight.

/no sarc at all

95 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:08:30pm

#83 Irene NYC

I plan on being there, however, I don't have a flag. *sigh* But I'll find something red white and blue!

So, let's see, a quartet unfurling a flag, with at least one newbie? Maybe I'll spot you!

Is there some patriotic event happening in NYC tomorrow?

96 Jack Reacher  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:08:45pm
Pelosi will be traveling to Syria has part of Congressional delegation.

To think that we used to send "The Best and the Brightest" as emissaries of the United States!

Now we send them entities barely advanced enough to not require daily watering and weeding.

97 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:09:34pm

90

Uh, they usually avoid those on splodeydope zone trips...

98 Bakerbama  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:09:41pm

#78 Savage Nation:

You need an adult beverage or two... Nancy and Co. do not have it in them... They do not have the testicular fortitutde to pull something like that off... They need to leave that type of thing to us evil Roveians... You are starting to sound as hysterical as the KOS kids...

99 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:09:55pm

White House Official Criticizes Pelosi Visit to Syria (Update1)

Pelosi's outreach to a state sponsor of terrorism is a ``really bad idea,'' White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said at a briefing in Washington. ``Someone should take a step back and think about the message that it sends and the message that it sends to our allies.''
Pelosi's office today announced that she will visit Israel and address the Israeli Knesset on Sunday, and late today confirmed the planned stop in Syria as part of the trip with five other lawmakers. Her spokesman, Brendan Daly, said that the Iraq Study Group led by former Secretary of State James Baker last year recommended that the Bush administration hold talks with Syria and Iran without conditions to help stabilize Iraq.
100 Ledger1  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:10:28pm

I can picture Polosi “negotiating” with Assad: “If you can increase the suicide bombings I will get my friends in Hollywood to splash it across the TV screens in America. Soon, we will have won the war and Bush and his baby killers will withdraw…[blink, blink, blink..] Oh, remember to donate to my campaign.”

On a serious note, if Bush were smart he would launch an attack just as Assad and Al Dinnerjacket are “negotiating” with Pelosi. With Pelosi distracting them with her "offers" and constant blinking the strike would come at a good moment.

101 mama winger  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:10:57pm

Tell Karl to grab the keys to the plane.

102 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:11:33pm

[sniff, sniff...]

103 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:11:42pm
104 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:11:56pm

Brainless leftist meets chinless ophthalmologist. Maybe he can help her with her eye blinking issues.

105 kywrite  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:12:22pm

#71 Mama Winger -- I don't think we're doomed. It may be a while, but when our red-blooded young men figure out that Islam means they don't get to look at nekkid or partly-nekkid women anymore in magazines or in person, I think they'll take up arms and start fighting. I just hope it doesn't take too much longer.

106 mama winger  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:12:43pm

Y'all know she is going to come home sashayin' and proclaimin' that the dems 'have made great progress in establishing a working relationship' with these evil bastards.

107 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:13:11pm

Tony Blair's tits in a wringer and him barely even complaining: Expensive

War with Israel conducted by my Hez'B'Allah proxy: Very Expensive Indeed

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi plans to visit Syria next week to meet with Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad.

Both of my bitches in one room on my terms: PRICELESS

108 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:13:26pm
109 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:13:39pm

big rally at ground zero tomorrow people. 12:00-2:00. our hard working NOSUBMISSION has all the facts.

110 mama winger  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:14:45pm

I am just ever so slightly tipsy so

I'll just say

I HATE DEMOCRATS

and go lie down for a bit...

111 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:14:56pm

I'll be curious to see which leftards criticize her for this trip. Particularly for visiting Israel.

112 Irene NYC  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:15:16pm

#95 kayawanee

Well, judge for yourself if this is a patriotic event. . . .

National Rally Against Cair/Islamofascism Day.

March 31. In NYC, it's from 12 - 2 at Ground Zero.

Separate rallies are being held in Boston, Anaheim and Orlando.

113 laxmatt1984  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:15:41pm

97

Avoid what? I'm assuming you mean frank, meaningful talk.
However, you could mean an awesome time in an indoor ski slope, which would be a shame. Indoor ski slopes are amazing.

Yes, my scenario is a fantasy, but I still think it's worth thinking about.

114 maredneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:15:50pm

109 nyc redneck

you been to one of those ground zero things before? what are they like?

btw I said hi up at 91, but got out of practice about that addressee thing...

115 CrimsonFisted  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:16:08pm

Do we HAVE to let her and her skanky entourage back in? Where is it written that we have to?

116 rickl  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:17:01pm

#107 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Hey, Mahmoud!

Nobody can say that LGF isn't a big tent. We even let sworn enemies of the U.S. post here.

117 kirche  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:17:08pm

#45 kayawanee

king crimson! hey, have you seen the movie 'children of men'? i was floored when the soundtrack included king crimsons' best song, 'chord of the crimson king'... pretty obscure late 70's stuff.

scotch and crackers? i'm heading out in a few hours for grey goose on the rocks and blackjack... have fun!

118 CommonCents  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:17:37pm

I recall not too long ago another Dem sold our secrets to the Chinese. Given Madame Speaker's security clearance and distain for the war effort, is it that far fetched she would subvert any progress we are making?

119 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:17:39pm

#108 savage_nation

Check out it's first post.

/Looks like we have a Moby Dick.

120 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:18:25pm
121 mama winger  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:18:49pm

did somebody say dick?

okay - going to lie down now

122 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:18:53pm

Forget anymore attacks. The time for military action is past. No one anywhere any longer has the stomach for it and nobody in a position of power has the intestinal fortitude to stand up. After all of the abuse President Bush has taken leaders in other countries who may consider it only look to the polls to see how tenious their hold on power is and once they realize they don't have the popular support or at least the support of the news media those ideas are shelved. I am afraid that darker days are ahead.
"For those about to die we salute you"

123 Bakerbama  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:18:56pm

#78 Savage Nation:

You wrote: "As I see it, the Democrats want us to be hit with a nuclear weapon and during the chaos, this shadow government will seize power and you can look forward to Communist America, complete with gulags, death camps and all manner of horror."

That is pretty far out there...

Now you have the 2nd and 3rd post...

I have no respect for this woman or her allies. I really do not believe she is intelligent enough to pull off any of the stuff you mentioned.

What we need is some true conservative congressional leadership. These folks do not seem capable of putting together much of a fight on any topic. They appear weak and scared. I long for the days of Mr. Newt...

Regards,

Bakersippi

124 CommonCents  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:20:54pm

#112 Irene NYC

I'll take my Defeat Jihad bumber sticker and have a satellite rally in Dearborn, MI. I'll have to keep the engine running just in case.

125 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:20:58pm

Seems like Mr. Noobie forgot which state he's from.

126 kirche  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:21:14pm

#111 jamiewearing

"Particularly for visiting Israel."

she's not going there to visit... she's going there to "talk truth to power".

127 Durendal  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:21:40pm

what do you mean setting up? the American Communists (Democrats) have long had an autonomous govt that supersedes the authority of our Constitutional govt.

-the politicians are the hands
-the MSM are the mouth
-the academia are the brains and sexual organs (produce more commies through indoctrination)

these and other components act as a unified, tyrannical front to destroy freedom worldwide. nothing new about it

128 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:21:49pm
129 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:22:15pm

#105 kywrite

I don't think we're doomed. It may be a while, but when our red-blooded young men figure out that Islam means they don't get to look at nekkid or partly-nekkid women anymore in magazines or in person, I think they'll take up arms and start fighting. I just hope it doesn't take too much longer.

Most of the young men in this country will die still holding their Playstation control pad without even knowing what happened.

130 DesertSage  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:22:24pm

Didn't Mexico have a shadow government last year when the Leftists tried to take over?

131 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:22:27pm

#112 Irene NYC

Well, judge for yourself if this is a patriotic event. . .

Sounds patriotic to me. Unfortunately, I have to work tomorrow. But I'll be there in spirit.

132 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:22:33pm

#123 Bakerbama

I long for the days of Mr. Newt


I don't, the music sucked.

133 hiker  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:23:33pm

#39 savage_nation

"Do you realize that skank is 3rd in line to the throne? If Bush and Cheney die or are incapacitated, say hi to President Pelosi."

Mmmm, can you say: Civil War?

134 ArmyWife  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:23:59pm

#123 Bakerbama

Pray tell, what about "Mr. Newt" makes you long for the days of yore? Was it the time he caved to Clinton?

135 Bakerbama  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:24:12pm

Bakersfield. And do I love it...

Bakersippi
Bakersas
Bakerbama
Bakertucky etc...

136 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:24:40pm

#132 Killgore Trout

Not as bad as grateful dead, but close...

137 ted  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:24:40pm

117
King Crimson made some pretty incredible music:
In the Court of the Crimson King is a masterpiece...resonates well with todays world

138 kirche  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:24:40pm

#122 justa

"Forget anymore attacks."

i wouldn't be so sure about that... check out debka file and today's posts about the ensuing build-up and massive war games.

check it out and let me know what you think...

139 religion of bacon  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:24:56pm

#104 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Maybe Nancy is going over there to show Baby Asshat how to botox his chin?

140 Durendal  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:25:03pm

you know, if some terrorists managed to capture her & such it would be quite interesting. every liberal, worldwide, particularly Alan Colmes, would be put in a position where they had to defend her captor and blame it on BusHitler, much as they are defending Iran now.

141 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:25:26pm
#87 Just_A_Grunt

Only 18 months to Armmagedon

Actually, you've got until December 21st, 2012.

/so relax

142 ArmyWife  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:27:11pm

Ok, maybe the wine has gone to my head and I've been reading so much liberal crap of late that its affected my thinking and logic (feel free to disagree with me on that) BUT could Nancy be planning her visit just to thwart a military attack because if she is in the area, of course we wouldn't want to take some sort of Military action...

Do I need a tinfoil hat now?

143 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:27:28pm

#141 Killian Bundy

That's the date when global warming ends and the next ice age begins.

144 Bakerbama  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:27:32pm

He shut down the federal gov't for a spell... Can't be anything wrong with that... I agree, the music sucked but I haven't liked any new since Garth Brooks...

145 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:27:52pm

#117 kirche

king crimson! hey, have you seen the movie 'children of men'? i was floored when the soundtrack included king crimsons' best song, 'chord of the crimson king'... pretty obscure late 70's stuff.

'chord of the crimson king'? Do you mean "In the Court of the Crimson King?", the title track of their debut album?

scotch and crackers? i'm heading out in a few hours for grey goose on the rocks and blackjack... have fun!

Sounds awesome, Good luck!

146 religion of bacon  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:28:04pm

#117 kirche

Um, that would be Court of the Crimson King, from 1969...

#137 ted

"Made?" Reports of their demise are premature IMHO.

147 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:28:21pm
#137 ted

King Crimson made some pretty incredible music:
In the Court of the Crimson King is a masterpiece

/no [expletive deleted]

148 religion of bacon  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:29:12pm

#145 kayawanee

You beat me to it...

149 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:29:14pm

#142 ArmyWife

Iran on Syria are on opposite sides of Iraq. We can do Iran while she's there, and Syria after she leaves. Or maybe not.

150 Mr. E. Train  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:29:26pm

I wonder what she looks like in a burka?

151 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:29:35pm

#138 kirche

i wouldn't be so sure about that... check out debka file and today's posts about the ensuing build-up and massive war games.


DEBKA is not the best source for information IMHO They tend to run a little to the unbelievable side

#141 Killian
Yeah I saw the special on the Mayans too.

152 CommonCents  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:30:32pm

#141 Killian

Is it possible the Mayan's just ran out of ink, or berry juice, or whatever they were writing on?

153 kirche  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:30:45pm

#89 irene

very clever, you've trapped me into responding in regards to "getting them back"...

i hope the brits get released.

154 ted  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:30:55pm

King Crimson classic written close to 40 years ago:
Very prescient:

Epitaph
The wall on which the prophets wrote
Is cracking at the seams.
Upon the instruments of death
The sunlight brightly gleams.
When every man is torn apart
With nightmares and with dreams,
Will no one lay the laurel wreath
As silence drowns the screams.
Between the iron gates of fate,
The seeds of time were sown,
And watered by the deeds of those
Who know and who are known;
Knowledge is a deadly friend
When no one sets the rules.
The fate of all mankind I see
Is in the hands of fools.

Confusion will be my epitaph.
As I crawl a cracked and broken path
If we make it we can all sit back
and laugh.
But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying,
Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying.

155 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:30:56pm
156 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:31:04pm
157 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:31:31pm

Pelosi is going because the bible of how to deal with Islamic extremism known as the ISG (Iraqi Study Group) said so.

158 storagemanager  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:31:54pm
Pelosi will be traveling to Syria has part of Congressional delegation. On the trip, she also plans to visit several other countries in the region, including Israel, where she will deliver a speech to the Knesset.

She is going over there to sell out Israel...and bow a knee to Baal.

159 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:32:03pm

#150 Mr. E. Train

I wonder what she looks like in a burka?

Like about 500 million other burkabots. Seen one, seen them all.

160 Mike C.  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:32:07pm

# 142 ArmyWife

Yes, pretty much.

161 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:32:12pm

#137 ted

King Crimson made some pretty incredible music:
In the Court of the Crimson King is a masterpiece...resonates well with todays world

Man, you said it. When I'm listening to it, I sometimes forget that it was released in 1969. It really is pretty timeless.

162 CommonCents  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:32:52pm

#150

I wonder what she looks like in a burka?

Better.

163 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:32:53pm
164 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:32:57pm

While this backstabbing bitch parades around in violation of all decency, the President shows what a real man he is by offering a hand to a political enemy.

Bush Shows His Compassion

The left would have no problem throwing Bush under the bus, or down the stairs. They wish death upon Dick Cheney, and hope Tony Snow suffers from a horrible disease. But this picture truly shows what an honorable, decent, compassionate man George W. Bush is, like his politics or not.

Big hat tip to Don Surber.

As much as I loathe everything Robert Byrd once stood for and in some ways still does (politically speaking), you can see the thanks in the man, and feel pity for him.

Whoever captured this shot should get an award.

165 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:33:15pm

Savage
I have read that before, and it still gives me the goose bumps.

BTW, take this poll. I can't stand to see Europe's welfare state being rated better than the free enterprise state.

166 ted  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:33:21pm

147 KB:

That album gives me nightmares till this day. In my youth ruined many a good head...

167 kirche  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:33:39pm

#146 religion

yes, COURT... thanks!

168 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:33:54pm

Nagin is only one man! He can't be expected to restore NO to it's former levels of corruption, crime and never-ending welfare all by himself!

New Orleans judge orders suspects freed

NEW ORLEANS - A judge on Friday ordered the release of up to 42 criminal defendants, saying they aren't being adequately represented by the city's financially struggling indigent defenders office, but he immediately delayed the order to mid April.

It wasn't clear how many suspects would be released after April 18 if Orleans Criminal Court Judge Arthur Hunter's order stands.

The order would suspend their prosecution but not dismiss the charges against them.

/(Chocolate) Color them gone!

169 Thin Blue Line  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:33:55pm

1939 and counting down.

"Islam is not a race"

170 eastvillageinfidel  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:34:50pm

#150 Mr. E Train

Better.

171 storagemanager  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:36:19pm

And while she hog's the camera...15 people who went to Iraq to make the world a safer place to live...are in the hand's of demon's and not one finger has been lifted to save them.

172 The Duke  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:36:27pm

#78 Savage_Nation

Then they can sit on the balcony and watch over us slaves and toss us scraps from their rainbow colored table.

Are we merely speaking of the French here, or should we really discuss that facts about the real Stalinists among us in America today ?

IMHO Pelosi an co. would gleefully sit on their balcony together eating their ill gotten fruits from a rainbow colored table while watching us slaves eat rocks .there would'nt even be scraps because they would feed those to their poodles ...at least thats what is happening in North Korea ...eh?
Last question : Are you really the Michael Savage from the radio talk show ?

173 eastvillageinfidel  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:36:32pm

#162 CommonCents

Beat me to it. :)

174 snooze  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:37:38pm

Nooo.. She's going to deliver a speech to the knesset? Please, nooo, it's going to be all over the news here, no escape. I can just imagine it - they're going to open the news with the recent rockets/terror attack, then Pelosi's speech, then some photos from her recent meeting with the chinless ophthalmologist, all smiles - that's how it's going to be on every TV channel and newspaper, nowhere to hide. That is just too much to bear. Can't you do something to keep her home at the US where she belongs? We have enough of our own lefties and Arab MKs to deliver speeches to the knesset. Have mercy.

175 ted  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:37:39pm

161 K:

Yup-close to 40 years old. Incredible

176 CommonCents  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:37:53pm

#170 eastvillageinfidel
well said ... see #162

stuck in a loop +

177 Bakerbama  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:38:49pm

#155

I simply think she and her elk are wrong. They are either the finest liars of our time (granted, this is very possible) or they really believe we were wrong to go into Iraq. I've watched this group enough to believe they are not smart enough to pull of the former. I am more inclined to believe they really think we did the wrong thing in Iraq. They are wrong. But that doesn't mean they are planning to overthrow the gov't and install communism. Are they aiding and abetting our enemy, absolutely! Will they be successful, no way... We won't allow that to happen.

178 itellu3times  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:39:04pm

Do they plan to go to Mecca too, and get the souvenir kaffiya? Must we call her Nancy Hajji Pelosi from now on? Has a nice ring to it, I think.

179 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:39:09pm

#154 ted

King Crimson classic written close to 40 years ago:
Very prescient: Epitaph

That's my 2nd favorite song on that album, though every song on it is great.

You know, King Crimson should be the official progressive rock band of Little Green Footballs. After all, they do have an album and song named "Lizard"! What say you Charles?

180 CommonCents  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:40:16pm

#174 snooze

Can't you lobby to deny her a travel visa?

181 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:40:36pm
182 kirche  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:41:31pm

#151 justa

"DEBKA is not the best source for information IMHO They tend to run a little to the unbelievable side"

huh... didn't know that.

however, the articles i'm refering to were more factual than speculative.

183 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:41:33pm

#139 religion of bacon

botox his chin

The dude needs a bone implant first.

#150 Mr. E. Train

I wonder what she looks like in a burka?

We will find out next week, when we are all treated to the photo op of clueless Nancy in her hijab, sitting in one of those cushy chairs in Assads palace of peace with the rest of her entourage.

184 Sunshine 1963  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:41:36pm

Maybe they'll fall in love! I'd like to see Nancy in a bright red burka.

185 CommonCents  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:42:06pm

#177 Bakerbama

I simply think she and her elk are wrong

Please don't disparage my Elk. Her ilk are more than wrong. In these times there are no do-overs.

186 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:42:28pm

maredneck, no i've never been to a "rally" at ground zero. but this a PRO-america rally and that interests me. i'm so excited. i'm sure tomorrow i'll go down there smiling like a half wit on the way to the county fair.

187 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:42:32pm

#177 Bakerbama

I simply think she and her elk are wrong.

So when's elk season? You can solve the elk problem then.

188 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:43:53pm
#154 ted

King Crimson classic written close to 40 years ago:
Very prescient:

Epitaph

Shooting ducks in a barrel.

21st Century Schizoid Man

Three of a perfect pair

/just to save time

189 storagemanager  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:44:05pm
"In our view, it is not the right time to have these sort of high-profile visitors to Syria," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack told reporters Friday.

Pelosi will not be the first member of Congress in recent months to travel to Syria, but as House speaker she is the most senior.

"This is a country that is a state sponsor of terror, one that is trying to disrupt the Saniora government in Lebanon and one that is allowing foreign fighters to flow into Iraq from its borders," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said.

There is some sanity in D.C. [Link: www.jpost.com...]

190 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:44:32pm

OTOH, don't mess with her moose...

191 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:45:17pm

#188 Killian Bundy
You left out Red

192 quiet man  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:46:07pm

hello everyone

193 quiet man  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:47:22pm

I'm back! I was lost in the shuffle! I was a LINO..Lizzard in Name Only

It was no fun

194 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:47:37pm

192
Yo! Great movie...

195 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:47:42pm

#192 quiet man
Shhh!
/just kidding

196 zawg  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:48:24pm

Hmmm..

In Syria, are there stones or trees that whisper "Oh Muslim (Ellison) there is a Jew behind me (Waxman), come and kill him" ? Would Pelosi et al have any...any...inkling of the origin of this command? These poseurs rely on the US Military as their lives lie in the balance in the Dar al Islam/Syria..while they scorn the USA separation of powers...brazen at best

197 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:48:31pm

Regarding my post #179: Ok, just read the lyrics to KC's "Lizard". Not very flattering to lizards. Maybe KC should not be given the honor.

198 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:48:35pm

OT
'Chocolate Jesus' Outrages [peaceful] Christians

The Easter season unveiling of an anatomically correct chocolate sculpture of Jesus Christ, dubbed "My Sweet Lord" by its creator, has infuriated Catholics preparing to observe some of their holiest days of the year.

The 6-foot sculpture by Cosimo Cavallaro was to debut Monday evening, four days before Christians mark the crucifixion of Jesus Christ on Good Friday. The final day of the exhibit at the Lab Gallery inside Manhattan's Roger Smith Hotel was planned for Easter Sunday.

"This is one of the worst assaults on Christian sensibilities ever," said Bill Donohue, head of the Catholic League, a watchdog group. "It's not just the ugliness of the portrayal, but the timing - to choose Holy Week is astounding."

The gallery's creative director, Matt Semler, said the Lab and the hotel were overrun with angry telephone calls and e-mails. The gallery was considering its options, he said. AP

199 religion of bacon  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:48:52pm

#188 Killian Bundy

"Elephant Talk" could be referring to the Dems, the UN, or the EU, take your pick:

Talk, it's only talk
Arguments, agreements, advice, answers,
Articulate announcements
It's only talk

Talk, it's only talk
Babble, burble, banter, bicker bicker bicker
Brouhaha, balderdash, ballyhoo
It's only talk
Back talk

Talk talk talk, it's only talk
Comments, cliches, commentary, controversy
Chatter, chit-chat, chit-chat, chit-chat,
Conversation, contradiction, criticism
It's only talk
Cheap talk

Talk, talk, it's only talk
Debates, discussions
These are words with a D this time
Dialog, duologue, diatribe,
Dissention, declamation
Double talk, double talk

Talk, talk, it's all talk
Too much talk
Small talk
Talk that trash
Expressions, editorials, explanations, exclamations, exaggerations
It's all talk
Elephant talk, elephant talk, elephant talk

200 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:48:53pm
201 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:48:58pm

Here's a question that maybe some European here can answer: Is this SOP in Europe for the opposition politicians to go meeting with dictators behind the backs of the elected leaders? Or has the demo party pioneered a new way to be subversive?

202 ArmyWife  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:49:02pm

E2M

I understand the geography, but if we went after Iran, Syria would jump in the frey and the first thing they would do is NOT let Ms. Pelosi out...wait a minute...

It was a rant that I didn't put much thought into, but now I think we are on to something!

203 storagemanager  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:49:25pm

Iran stamps feet, turns blue and yells you made me do it!...

Iran says it is withholding info on nuclear program for fear of US, Israel


Published: 03.30.07, 23:06 / Israel News

Iran is blaming the US and Israel for its decision to withhold information from the outside world on its nuclear program, saying in a confidential letter obtained Friday that their "warmongering" led it

to curtail cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The International Atomic Energy Agency - the UN monitor - in turn told Iran that it is defying the 35-nation board of the agency with its move and urged it to reverse its decision. (AP)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

204 tronman  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:49:31pm

I wonder...will she be travelling on a commercial jet or a military transport?

205 pat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:50:48pm

Meanwhile, across the pond, Europe threatens Iran. If the Iranians return the cowardly marines, they will destroy all European copies of 300.

206 quiet man  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:52:20pm

tronman she will be travelling on a zepplin..white to reflect the rays of the sun back upwards.

She might betray the US, but never Gaia!

207 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:52:22pm

Howdy there, quiet man

E2M
I am filing the elk and moose info in my special "mooselaneous" file.

208 pat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:52:32pm

#202 ArmyWife
I'm Bush would do everything in his power to ensure Pelosi is treated well by the Syrians in the event of war.

209 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:52:55pm

Try to imagine the Speaker of the House under FDR going to Italy and talking to Mussolini?

210 Mike C.  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:53:13pm

# 207 tronman

On her government-supplied 757.

211 Fresh Air  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:53:28pm

Just like John Kerry. Meeting our enemies during wartime. The Democrats are a complete disgrace to this country.

212 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:54:13pm
#199 religion of bacon

"Elephant Talk" could be referring to the Dems, the UN, or the EU, take your pick:

/YouTube, fun for the whole family

213 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:54:29pm

#188 Killian Bundy 3/30/2007 05:43PM PDT

Here's a great site for progressive music. It has lots of samples from lots of bands.

Prog Archives Home Page:
[Link: www.progarchives.com...]

Prog Archives King Crimson Home:
[Link: www.progarchives.com...]

214 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:54:32pm
215 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:54:53pm

#205 pat, 300 is the reason they kidnapped the 15 sailors, they were so humiliated at how king jerkxes was portrayed they had to do something to reclaim their dignity.

216 galloping granny  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:55:10pm
#204 tronman 3/30/2007 05:49PM PDT

I wonder...will she be travelling on a commercial jet or a military transport?

I'm not sure she can use an official US military plane for this. And if she "can" then I would hope that the President, as Commander In Chief with direct say over all of them, would refuse to make one available to her.

It would be just like the Syrians/Iranians to keep the plane to get the technology.

217 continuum  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:55:17pm

Yah!
Let's get all those congressional traitors who are visiting Syria and lynch 'em!
Uh? . . . Just a minute . . . . oh, nevermind.


Republican Reps. Aderholt and Wolf are currently visiting Syria. According to a congressional official on Rep. Robert Aderholt’s (R-AL) staff, Aderholt and Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA) are currently visiting Israel and Syria.

Republican Rep. Hobson accompanying Pelosi on Syria visit. Speaker Pelosi will be traveling with a contingent of members of Congress to Syria. The delegation includes Reps. David Hobson (R-OH), Keith Ellison (D-MN), Tom Lantos (D-CA), Henry Waxman (D-CA), Louise Slaughter (D-NY), Nick Rahall (D-WV).

218 quiet man  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:55:51pm

Fresh air You mean she is meeting Our enemies..there are no enemies to the left of Pelosi...

219 storagemanager  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:56:10pm
Tehran, 30 March (AKI) - Former Iranian reformist president Seyyed Ahmad Khatami, leading Friday prayers in the capital, has fiercely criticised the reformists and internal dissidents, who in a recent document, signed by 600 people, urged the suspension of uranium enrichment to avoid new sanctions and avoid a possible military attack against Iran. "The anti Iranian resolutions and the sanctions will not in any way affect the will of our government and out people to pursue uranium enrichment," said Khatami.

"Whoever in the country adds his voice to those of our enemies asking for suspension is either a traitor or has been tricked," Khatami said.

"These stupid people or traitors will be isolated by the great Iranian people who unanimously support the Islamic Revolution and its values," he said.He also defined Britain as "a former colonial power defeated by history and now acting as an intermediary for the United States."

Friday saw another small protest rally by students outside the British embassy in Tehran, calling for the 15 captive British marines seized in the Persian Gulf a week ago.

Despite heavy security in front of the embassy, the protestors managed to hurl rocks transported there in a van.

Meanwhile during the football derby between Persepolis and Esteghlal, at Tehran's Azadi stadium, the 60,000 strong crowd was invited by loudspeakers to shout slogans against the British government, accused of aggression against the Islamic Republic.

[Link: www.adnki.com...]

220 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:56:42pm

#191 Killgore Trout

#188 Killian Bundy
You left out Red

And "Lark's Tongue in Aspic"

221 quiet man  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:56:58pm

Keith Ellison would be heading back to the rodina, Da.

222 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:57:53pm

#198 cbinflux

Good ol' Bill Donohue (I'm not a fan).

223 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:58:32pm

Sorry with the pending veto of the military spending bill cutbacks will have to be made to make the best uses of military resources, so no military support or fighter aircraft can be given to support her vacation, er trip.

224 quiet man  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 3:59:32pm

continuum I doubt the republicans are kissing their butts tho. It is the demcorats who want to have these guys at the table to slice up Iraq..it is the left who needs a defeat for the US as much as Asshat does

225 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:00:12pm
226 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:00:50pm

#220 kayawanee

Larks Tongues In Aspic Pt. 1

This is a cool version of it too.

227 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:01:10pm

And then there's Genesis.

/accept no substitute

228 linlithgow  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:01:17pm

Aren't we (taxpayers) funding her traitorous act?

I want a bloody refund!

I can't believe this; it's a slap in the face to the President. No surprise there.

229 galloping granny  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:02:13pm

Okay - Fox has the news up. David Hicks is going to serve - get this - 9 months!

230 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:02:22pm

what will nancy actually be saying to the enemy? it's like a wildebeast thinking it can talk to a crocodile.

231 Bakerbama  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:03:08pm

I apologize for the Elk vs. Ilk...

If the left is really lying about us screwing up by going into Iraq then I would call that a pretty big whopper, even by their standards... I am still hopeful that they really do not want America to lose this war in the long term. Unfortunately, it might take another hit on us for them to come to grips with our enemy. Maybe she will get a better understanding of the ROP while in Syria. Hell, I am just rambling... I just don't think her going to the middle east is that big a deal and definately not treason. If anything she might actually see these people for what they really are.

232 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:03:25pm

continum
My reaction is the same regardless of political affiliation for anybody who meets with the enemies of this country. The big difference is that the (R) are no longer in power and neither of them is the speaker. Wtih power also comes responsiblilty, or at least that what I was taught. In the (D) case it would seem the axiom power corrupts is more applicable. Maybe she is trying to get some contracts for her sistah Feinstein.

233 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:03:35pm

222 kt
I don't know him, but
Card. Mahony must go!

234 quiet man  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:05:14pm

She is probably going to syria for several reasons

Kieth needed to get a new pair of Sirwals, she wanted to enjoy all the other parties being thrown for her win, and she needed to give assad the talking points his big Daddy adinnerjacket needs to stay true to the "Democrat Peace Process"

235 ibu guru  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:05:40pm

Nancy Peyote's been smokin' it again. Can birdbrains be delusional, or do you need to start with a few more cerebral cells to warp them as much hers?

236 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:06:17pm

#233 cbinflux
I think they still have a lot of house cleaning to do.

237 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:07:01pm

OT - Austrian moonbatism threatening the Czech republic

This is the blog of a Czech physicist at Harvard, who at 33 or 34 is one of the world's top experts on string theory. Also a fellow AGW "denier", and more than a little bit pi$$ed off at how Euromoonbats want to strangle the Czech economy.

238 continuum  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:07:49pm

How can we let those traitorous Dems visit Iraq?
If the Dems had wanted to be in control of the Congress, then they should have had the American people vote for them in the 2006 election.

So, until the Dems win a majority in the House and the Senate they should stay at home and mind their own damn subversive business.

Where does that Pelosi come off anyhow, acting like she's Speaker of the House?

239 Asylum Aleikum  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:08:03pm

Pelosi's message to Assad is loud and clear, if unspoken. Don't give in to Bush, in two years the Democrats may be able to offer you better a deal.

240 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:08:38pm
241 galloping granny  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:09:17pm

Something is cooking -

Report: Saudi Arabia turning its back on US

Washington Post reports Saudi king said no to White House gala without providing convincing explanation. During his speech at Riyadh summit, king slams 'illegal American occupation in Iraq.' Commentators: In light of disappointing reactions from Washington to Saudi initiative, Saudi Arabia is wooing Iran, Syria and Russia

WASHINGTON – Just when the United States is attempting to support the moderate Arab countries and form a united coalition against Iran and Syria, it appears that Riyadh is turning its back on Washington.


Washington Post columnist Jim Hoagland revealed this week that Saudi King Abdullah cancelled a mid-April White House gala without providing a convincing explanation.

According to the report, Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi national security adviser, flew to Washington last week to explain to US President George W. Bush that April 17 posed a scheduling problem.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

242 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:09:20pm

#226 Killgore Trout

#220 kayawanee, Larks Tongues In Aspic Pt. 1, This is a cool version of it too.

OMG! Was Robert Fripp ever that young?! And if I'm not mistaken, one of those two drummers, the one with the shorter blond hair, is Bill Bruford of Yes.

Wow. I'm amazed how closely they're able bring off what they did in the studio. That's a pretty complex composition.

243 goodbye_natalie  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:10:02pm

#187 E2M,


#177 Bakerbama

I simply think she and her elk are wrong.

So when's elk season? You can solve the elk problem then.

You just had to do it, didn't you? LOL

244 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:11:28pm

World peace!

245 mungagungadin  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:12:43pm

Who wants to lay bets the while she VISITS the Syrians... she HOTELS in ISRAEL.

246 meMarc  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:12:53pm

Do we have to let Pelosi back into the country?

247 JoiseyMafia  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:12:54pm

I wish i could show up for the NYC event, but being that im not a very patient person and i have an explosive fuse when dealing with people i loathe, so i will wish any of yus who show up well and that things go great. Ill be there in spirit for support if not in the flesh.

Best of luck and give em hell.

248 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:13:47pm

Compare this vote on the Syria Accountability Act from 2003 to what is happening today. The vote was 398 to 4

249 whiterasta  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:14:12pm

Can't the President revoke her passport?

This is insanity!

250 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:14:13pm

Just think!

Next year we can all holiday in Damascus!

251 religion of bacon  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:14:16pm

Since there seem to be a few Crimso fans around here...

Andrew Keeling has written great analyses of some KC tracks:

[Link: www.andrewkeeling.ukf.net...]

252 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:14:17pm

#242 kayawanee
It's an amazing performance and Fripp's 'Fro is pretty impressive too.

253 Stop Hillary  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:14:17pm

Treason.

254 Temujin  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:14:30pm

#235 ibu guru:

"Can birdbrains be delusional ... (?)"



Birdbrains of a feather
Groupthink together ...

255 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:14:58pm

Well, they're making the rounds, first visiting Israel. No doubt going to have lots to talk about there. The leftists in Israel have been even more successful at hamstringing the Israeli military from dealing decisively with the existential threat that is the Islamic terrorists Hamas and Hizbullah, not to mention PIJ and Fatah than the leftists here in the States.

What exactly are they going to talk about with Syria? Is anyone in Syria going to admit to supporting terrorism? Destabilizing the Siniora government? Participated in the Hariri assassination?

Didn't think so.

There's no reason to meet with Assad, unless you're giving him an ultimatum to cease and desist or else end up like Saddam dancing from the end of a rope. That, he would understand. This plays into his hands. To Assad, Pelosi is a useful idiot, and she doesn't even seem to notice.

256 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:14:59pm

Best hummus in the ME!

I'm packed!

Who's with me?!?

Yipee!

257 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:15:22pm

236 kt

/You just like chocolate.

258 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:16:41pm

#247 joiseymafia, you should try to come to the rally. i have a short fuse too, so what. now's the time. wear your steel toe boots. ok.

259 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:17:38pm

BTW I can't find anything on Aderholt and Wolf visiting Syria. I have quite a bit on Aderholt and he is very conservative.

260 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:17:55pm
261 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:17:59pm

WTH?
DEBKAfile Exclusive: US financial sources in Bahrain report American investors in Bahrain advised to pack up business operations and leave

The advice came from officers with US Central Command 5th Fleet HQ at Manama, who spoke of security tension, a hint at an approaching war with Iran. Arab sources report the positioning of a Patriot anti-missile battery in Bahrain this week; they say occupancy at emirate hotels has soared past 90% due mostly to the influx of US military personnel. They also report Western media crews normally employed in military coverage are arriving in packs.

Thursday, March 29, Gen. Khaled al-‘Absi, Bahrain’s chief of air defense operations disclosed that new alarm networks had been installed and air defense systems upgraded to handle chemical, biological and radioactive attacks.

The USS Nimitz and its support ships will be departing San Diego Monday, April 2, to join the John C. Stennis Strike Group in the Persian Gulf. The nuclear carrier is due to relieve the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower , but military sources in the Gulf believe all three US carriers will stay put if tensions continue to climb or if fighting breaks out involving American, British and Iranian forces.

262 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:18:03pm

#257 cbinflux
Chocolate Jesus is fine by me. Immaculate Confection™

263 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:18:20pm

Legitimizing repression.

264 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:18:54pm

244 ben hur

Peacemonger!

265 pat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:18:55pm

#238 continuum
That might be a meaningful analysis to a moonbat, but it is no for me. The Executive Branch is in charge of foreign policy. Not a dimwit from a childless urban cesspool.

266 The Duke  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:19:00pm

#214 savage_nation

"that sounds like ME on the radio!"

I like to listen to Savage whenever I get back stateside , they won't broadcast him in Europe for the obvious reasons

He tends to go over the top at the liberals , and I get a kick out of it when he does , to me his accent sounds like he grew up right around the block or maybe just up the street where I grew up ...

You know someplace like Joisey lol :-)

267 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:19:29pm

Europe Threatens Action Against Iran

Stop laughing. They mean it now.

It's a tough statment.

268 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:19:29pm
269 ibu guru  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:19:43pm

#254 Temujin

LOL!

270 poncho512  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:20:00pm

Maybe she wants to make peace over some tuna. Let me guess, she's going to claim that the message she got from the November election was, 'We want you to befriend our enemies and get into bed with terrorists.' What planet are these people on?

P.S. - Maybe she brought her gavel with her.

271 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:20:15pm

#227 Killian Bundy

And then there's Genesis.

They really were an awesome progressive rock band...before they sold out, that is.

#246 meMarc 3/30/2007 06:12PM PDT

Do we have to let Pelosi back into the country?

Maybe the Iranians hijack her airplane and take her hostage. At that point we could all relish W stating, "We do not negotiate with terrorists."

272 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:20:51pm

262 KT

But, but... nekkid CJ?!

273 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:22:03pm

262 Killgore Trout
"Groaning"

274 Amerikajin  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:22:18pm

RE: The Logan Act

This applies to private citizens, nee?

So since she is part of the government, she is allowed to do this, right?

275 Bubbaman  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:22:43pm

It's time to launch a grand jury investigation into Ms. Pelosi's behavior. Practicing foreign policy as an elected representative is in violation of the Constitution Article 1, Section 8 and Ms. Pelosi should be tried for "high crimes and misdemeanors." End of story.

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

276 EE  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:24:38pm

OT
Which is "The Real War"?,
by Charles Krauthammer.
[Link: jewishworldreview.com...]

Krauthammer looks at the stakes in Afghanistan, and the stakes in Iraq, and concludes that the Democrats' theory that the real war is the war in Afghanistan doesn't make sense in terms of the stakes in the two wars. He says that in fighting you shouldn't look back, you should look at the strategic realities. And the stakes in Iraq are far higher than in Afghanistan.

277 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:25:17pm

#272 cbinflux
JC can take many forms.
Plastic Jesus Cool Hand Luke.

278 rickl  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:26:49pm

I love LGF; I hang out here a lot, but I have to say that the Belmont Club is simply one of the best blogs around. And their comments are in a class by themselves.

See this thread from yesterday. Don't miss Wretchard's comment about the fall of Singapore. (I don't know how to link to specific comments there.)

279 continuum  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:27:00pm

Stop Those Treacherous Dems from Visiting Syria!

Oh, wait . . . I mean, HURRAH for our brave Republicans Who Are Visiting Syria.From Bloomberg news.

Perino's remarks come as a group of Republican lawmakers has embarked on their own trip to Syria. Michael Lowry, a spokesman for Representative Robert Aderholt, said that the Alabama lawmaker will visit Syria as part of a Republican delegation led by Representative Frank Wolf, a Virginia Republican. Wolf is the top Republican on the House appropriations subcommittee that funds the State Department.

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

280 EE  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:27:03pm

re #276


Which is “The Real War”?
By Charles Krauthammer
[Link: www.JewishWorldReview.com...] | "Our bill calls for the redeployment of U.S. troops out of Iraq so that we can focus more fully on the real war on terror, which is in Afghanistan."

— House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, March 8

The Senate and the House have both passed bills for ending the Iraq war, or at least liquidating the American involvement in it. The resolutions, approved by the barest majorities, were underpinned by one unmistakable theme: wrong war, wrong place, distracting us from the real war that is elsewhere.

Where? In Afghanistan. The emphasis on Afghanistan echoed across the Democratic side of the aisle in Congress from Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee to former admiral and Rep. Joe Sestak. It is a staple of the three leading Democratic candidates for the presidency, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards. It is the refrain of their last presidential candidate, John Kerry, and of their current party leader, Howard Dean, who complains that "we don't have enough troops in Afghanistan. That's where the real war on terror is."

Of all the arguments for pulling out of Iraq, the greater importance of Afghanistan is the least serious.

And not just because this argument assumes that the world's one superpower, which spends more on defense every year than the rest of the world combined, does not have the capacity to fight an insurgency in Iraq as well as in Afghanistan. But because it assumes that Afghanistan is strategically more important than Iraq.

Thought experiment: Bring in a completely neutral observer — a Martian — and point out to him that the United States is involved in two hot wars against radical Islamic insurgents. One is in Afghanistan, a geographically marginal backwater with no resources and no industrial or technological infrastructure. The other is in Iraq, one of the three principal Arab states, with untold oil wealth, an educated population, an advanced military and technological infrastructure that, though suffering decay in the later years of Saddam Hussein's rule, could easily be revived if it falls into the right (i.e., wrong) hands. Add to that the fact that its strategic location would give its rulers inordinate influence over the entire Persian Gulf region, including Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the Gulf states. Then ask your Martian: Which is the more important battle? He would not even understand why you are asking the question.

281 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:27:07pm

277 Killgore Trout
I do like that one.
Any others?

282 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:27:18pm

#273 St. Pancake
It's very punny.

283 mrgreen  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:28:06pm
#117 kirche 3/30/2007 05:17PM PDT

#45 kayawanee

king crimson! hey, have you seen the movie 'children of men'? i was floored when the soundtrack included king crimsons' best song, 'chord of the crimson king'... pretty obscure late 70's stuff.

Ummm... that would be COURT of the crimson king. As for it being their best, IMHO it is a toss-up with 20th Century Schizoid Man. And not THAT obscure either... everyone I knew back then was into King Crimson, and it didn't hurt that Greg Lake went on to co-form Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. I'm going to watch Children of Men in the very near future, now I'll look forward to the soundtrack too.

284 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:29:09pm

Troutster
Have you heard of these dudes?

285 big L  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:29:28pm

but Pelosi has been briefed with secrets. How can she visit the enemy?

286 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:29:45pm

TO: Charles Johnson
RE: Are You Blind Too — The Poster

Where can I get this to use on MY web-site?

Regards,

Chuck(le)

287 biff  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:29:50pm

It would be helpful for the MSM to point out once in a while that George W. Bush is the President of the United States of America, and Nancy Pelosi is a Congresswoman from San Francisco. I'd like to hear the President remind them of that fact at his next press conference.

288 ec marm  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:29:54pm

King Crimson fans here? I have the original album in a closet around here, somewhere. Almost forty years old? No way.

#262 Killgore Trout
Chocolate Jesus is fine by me. Immaculate Confection™

"Insult those who behead..." Nope, I got nothing. Pretty good.

289 DesertSage  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:30:07pm

Skeletor is an idiot.

290 big L  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:31:20pm

4 wanumba- correct!, this should not be ignorred. this jerk thinks she is the president.

291 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:31:20pm

"waving at Sage"

292 Merovign  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:31:22pm

#231 Bakerbama

I guess you missed the part where Syria hosted and supported terrorists, brutalized its own dissidents, engaged in proxy terror warfare and aided and abetted Saddam's regime. Oh, and they're suspected of receiving WMDs and other weapons stockpiles from Iraq while we were trying to clean the place up.

It's called "history," you may want to check it out.

How many Dems have gone to visit the eye doctor's throne room? What do you think they're talking about, the weather?

The Senate Democrats have been trying to usurp the Ambassadorial function of the Executive branch for years. As if it weren't bad enough that practically every State department foreign rep "goes native" the year before they leave for their tour.

The Senate is a Legislative body, and they've always resented the passivity that implies, for a variety of reasons.

The current brigade is doing it for reasons that are partly institutional jealousy, partly political avarice, and partly ideological imperative.

Experience with past instances shows that this visit will likely be sidelong trash-talk about the US that will make it easier on those who hate us, and harder for those who help us.

293 6patrick6  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:31:46pm

Pelosi has truly lost her fuc*ing mind! She obviusly thinks she has been anointed with diplomatic powers since she is SOTH, and can speak for the US when she clearly has no such powers to do so.

Pelosi, get you big ass on a little jet and fly home to your constituency! Oh, wait, she IS flying to see her constituency - in Syria!

294 pat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:32:16pm

#289 DesertSage
true

295 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:32:57pm

#282 Killgore Trout 3/30/2007 06:27PM PDT

#273 St. Pancake
It's very punny.

Killgore, are you trying to get me to spit all this scotch onto my monitor or what? lol

296 mrgreen  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:33:14pm
#226 Killgore Trout 3/30/2007 06:00PM PDT

#220 kayawanee

Larks Tongues In Aspic Pt. 1

This is a cool version of it too.

Hey Kilgore, nice to find out you are a KC fan too. Stuff any manuscripts in the trash dressed like a bag lady lately?

297 goodbye_natalie  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:34:20pm

Talk about strange duos (pretty good, though)

Shania and Elton

298 meMarc  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:36:14pm

Re. Are You Blind Too? poster.

Nancy is going to the chinless ophthalmologist to get her eyes checked. He'll say her vision is perfect.

299 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:36:55pm

natalie
That is nice, even though John is annoying.

Sage
Thinking a mountain scene would be nice after a dreadful day of news.

300 DesertSage  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:37:32pm

There is ONE person in the United States who is responsible for deciding foreign policy for the United States, defined by the Constitution - the President of the United States (Article II, Section 2).

And so when someone OTHER than the President (or his personally appointed - and Senate-approved - spokesperson, the Secretary of State) starts meeting with foreign governments in an attempt to speak for the United States on foreign policy, we have a violation of Federal Law (Title 18, Part I, Chapter 45&sect953):

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

301 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:37:34pm
302 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:37:39pm

#288 ec marm

King Crimson fans here? I have the original album in a closet around here, somewhere. Almost forty years old? No way.

Way!

Are you saying, you've got it on vinyl? Showing your age, bub! That's ok, I've got "In the Wake of Poseidon" on vinyl. ;-)

303 Temujin  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:38:01pm

#s 276 & 280 EE : The Democrats will begin their drumbeat demands for the U.S. to pull out of the Afghanistan "quagmire" immediately after we irrevocably commit ourselves to ending our involvement in Iraq.

One slice at a time ...

304 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:38:28pm
#271 kayawanee

They really were an awesome progressive rock band

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway was the best album ever.

/IMO

305 jrdroll  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:38:31pm

#278 rickl

See this thread from yesterday. Don't miss Wretchard's comment about the fall of Singapore. (I don't know how to link to specific comments there.)

Is this the post?
[Link: fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com...]

If you click the time stamp beneath the comment you get the url for the comment.

306 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:39:08pm

#296 mrgreen
I love Crismon, Floyd, Yes, ELP, etc.
15 minute songs will become fashionable again any day now.

307 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:39:25pm
308 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:39:52pm

TO: biff
RE: Yeah...

"...while that George W. Bush is the President of the United States of America, and Nancy Pelosi is a Congresswoman from San Francisco." -- biff

But she is, as Speaker of the House, the third in line to the Oval Office; behind the current occupant and Vice President Cheney.

As a platoon sergeant in some movie, made in the 60s, about Korea pointed out to a young squad leader of an infantry platoon holding a pass against the Chinese Intevention put it, "You're just two bullets away from being the platoon leader."

I think Pelosi is trying to establish her international relations credentials with this.

If the trip works to her favor, watch for increased emphasis on an impeachment of the president.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. I hope the VPs security detail stays alert. There's been a LOT of death wish talk relating to him of late. And, on reflection, that rocket attack in Afghanistan was no accident.

I wonder who leaked that the VP would be there.

309 looking closely  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:40:18pm

What can I say about Pelosi. . .

One of the personally richest members of Congress.
Never held a "real" job in her life (ie outside of working for the Democrats).
Never held any job with executive experience.
She took office by being a high-ranking Democrat apparatchik, getting an "insider" nomination.
With literally over 85% of the registered voters in SF being Democrats, the only thing necessary to win a seat in her district is to win the Democrat nomination.
Meaning, she's never actually faced a real election challenge in her entire career, and in practice cannot be unseated.
In fact, I believe she's never even had the courtesy to debate a political opponent (nothing in it for her).

310 big L  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:41:09pm

boy this is getting hairy folks...we have a coup being managed from the H of R. It is "7 days in May"...We are seeing it happen before our eyes. A putsch on the VP, One on Gonzales and now subbing for the State Dept with contacts with dictators...
It is a coup d'etat...

311 continuum  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:42:09pm

I totally agree with Bubbaman -

"It's time to launch a grand jury investigation into Ms. Pelosi's behavior. Practicing foreign policy as an elected representative is in violation of the Constitution Article 1, Section 8 and Ms. Pelosi should be tried for "high crimes and misdemeanors."

I think that this is what AG Gonzales had in mind when he freed up 8 United States Attorneys. He knew that he would need their Republican skills to get that Democratic Pelosi rat. This is probably why he got rid of Iglesias and Lam since they are both close to Pelosi's home state (saves on plane fare).

So, now who says that Gonzales is incompetent. He was just guilty of good planning ahead for Pelosi's impeachment.

Oh, wait.

Impeachment is done by the House and not by a grand jury.

But, that doesn't matter, the American people were smart enough to vote a Republican majority into both the House and Senate in the 2006 election.
So, no problem.

312 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:42:23pm

The only reference so far to Aderholt and Wolf is the Bloomberg article posted by continum that I could find, which begs the question. Are they acting at the behest of the president or is there something missing form the Bloomberg story?
I am willing to give continum the benefit of a doubt, if for no other reason his sparring with me will boost his post count. Joined in Nov 2006 and he only has 21 posts.

313 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:43:25pm

#284 St. Pancake
Here's their myspace How About Trout.
It's not bad, a little on the generic side, but not bad.

314 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:43:28pm

277 kt

Wasn't that the Madonna?

315 SoDamnInsane  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:45:22pm

Maybe she just wants to play bad cop/retarded cop.

316 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:45:47pm

My head is spinning with Pelosiphobia. Is there a cure?

Don't confuse terrorism with Islam, says EU

Banned terms are said to include "jihad", "Islamic" or "fundamentalist".
The word "jihad" is to be avoided altogether, according to some sources, because for Muslims the word can mean a personal struggle to live a moral life.

One alternative, suggested publicly last year, is for the term "Islamic terrorism" to be replaced by "terrorists who abusively invoke Islam".

317 ec marm  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:46:14pm

#310 big L

It is a coup d'etat...

I'd call it a crew d' flopsTM

318 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:47:16pm
319 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:47:36pm

TO: All
RE: Cheney's Afghanistan Experience [ERRATA]

That wasn't a rocket attack. It was a suicide bomber tried to get onto the base as Cheney was visiting.

My error. The rocket attack was made against UN Secretary-General Ban while he was visiting Iraq.

My apologies for getting the two mixed up. The point is there WAS an attack made against an installation in Afghanistan as Cheney was visiting it.

I think it was no coincidence, that someone leaked information about the visit.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[I believe in coincidence. I just don't trust it. -- Garak, Cardacian Tailor/Tinker/Soldier/Spy on ST:DS9]

320 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:47:57pm

Y'all might have seen this on Fox TV today? NAMBLA, but focusing on little girls.

Seattle-Area Pedophile Has 'How-to' Web Site for Men Seeking Little Girl Activities

Where the hell is Chris Hansen?

321 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:48:49pm
322 rickl  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:51:08pm
#305 jrdroll
Is this the post?
[Link: fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com...]

If you click the time stamp beneath the comment you get the url for the comment.


No, I tried that and it didn't work for me. My link in #278 went to the correct post.

323 mrgreen  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:52:11pm
#154 ted 3/30/2007 05:30PM PDT

King Crimson classic written close to 40 years ago:
Very prescient:

Epitaph

Oh, yeah, forgot that one... I would have a hard time choosing between this one, Court of the Crimson King, and 20th Century Schizoid Man.

324 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:52:25pm
325 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:52:48pm

#304 Killian Bundy

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway was the best album ever.

I just bought the double cd set for my wife. She loves Genesis.

Now when you say "best album ever", do you mean of Genesis or of ANY band? If it's the latter, that's some pretty high praise.

#306 Killgore Trout

#296 mrgreen
I love Crismon, Floyd, Yes, ELP, etc.
15 minute songs will become fashionable again any day now.

From your lips to G-d's ears. Unfortunately, I think those days are long gone. The progressive music scene is linked almost exclusively to prog metal--bands like Mastadon, Dream Theater, and Opeth. That's the only place you'll catch an extended length composisition. And even there you almost never hear anything that's 15 minutes long. And a 20 or 25 minute song like Pink Floyd's "Echoes", you can just fugeddabouit.

326 MTNester  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:53:27pm

#299 St. Pancake

How about a beautiful beach sunset to relax with?

327 meMarc  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:53:30pm

Nancy might like it over there. I actually think she'd look good in a burqa.

A nice blue burqa.

328 NappieRed  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:55:15pm

Lantos is going? The only Holocaust Survivor to ever serve in congress? Are the Syrians really going to let him in to the country?

329 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:56:26pm

Who called these dead to dance?

330 Amerikajin  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:56:45pm

Article I, Section IX:
(Presidential powers)
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

331 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:57:32pm

326 MTNester
Thanks. That is nice. I am still partial to mountains though.

327 meMarc
That song creeps me out, lol!

332 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 4:58:03pm

320 cont'd

His stegl.org site is hosted by Network Solutions.

333 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:00:19pm
334 ctrlL  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:00:31pm

Thought about the co-president Pelosi yesterday after seeing that she was right there next to GWB handing out awards to Tuskegee recipients. She just didn't belong in that position ... ?
Is GWB allowing her to show her chuptspa to the world?
/rovian brainwaves are active, me-thinks ...

335 biff  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:01:15pm

When is Joe Leiberman going to switch? Do the Dems have a Dumbo ready to come over to their side? If the GOP would get the Senate back, Pelosi and her Dem house could take a flying ...

336 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:01:55pm
#325 kayawanee

Now when you say "best album ever", do you mean of Genesis or of ANY band? If it's the latter, that's some pretty high praise

The latter. Not only is it musically awesome, it also tells a story, the journey through death and beyond.

/it's seminal, IMO

337 Earth2moonbat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:03:12pm

#335 biff

When is Joe Leiberman going to switch? Do the Dems have a Dumbo ready to come over to their side?

Snowe is for all practical intents and purposes a donk.

338 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:03:56pm
339 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:04:48pm

TO: cntrlL
RE: Pelosi w/W

"She just didn't belong in that position ... ?
Is GWB allowing her to show her chuptspa to the world?" -- cntrlL

All part of her plan, I suspect. And, I'm thinking that the president is playing into it by doing things like that. Just as he played into the Dems plans by allowing so many of the Clinton appointees to keep their jobs when he took office, instead of giving them all their walking papers the first week of February 2000.

Look what it got him, of late, with these US Attorneys who were dismissied.

He's too 'kind'. With the Dems. AND with the Iraqi insurgents. In my honest opinion.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

340 DesertSage  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:06:35pm

#333 song_and_dance_man

I remember KROQ, KLOS and KMET in the 70's. Those were the only three stations I had permanently programmed into my car stereo.

341 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:09:46pm
342 continuum  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:11:04pm

Can You Believe That Pelosi Has the Nerve to Say This?

(while) planning a trip to the Middle East that will include Israel and Syria.

"I've talked to my Republican colleagues, and there is a disquiet here,"

"I deferred to them a year ago, and I deferred to them last August," "And if there were any signs the administrative policy (in the Middle East) was working, I'd defer to them again."

How can we permit a traitor like Pelosi to say such things?

Oh, wait!

that was Republican Senator Arlen Specter in December 2006.

Nevermind.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

343 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:11:13pm
344 pat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:12:02pm

St P

Whenever a Government type tries to use 4 words for something that can be said in 1 or 2 , you know it is propaganda bullshit.

345 DesertSage  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:12:13pm

#341 savage

Ha, the first time I ever heard of Van Halen was in '76 when they played at our high school dance.

346 kayawanee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:13:42pm

#333 song_and_dance_man

I have seen the King Crimson posts and the words to Elephant Talk. This song is my favorite 80's Crimson song.

My favorite song on that album is Thela Hun Ginjeet, the one where the guy is telling a story about inner city crime and keeps saying "This is a DANGEROUS place!".

Oh and uh, I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when under stress.

FM has come a long way since the very early 70's, when AM was king and we listened to full albums with few ad commercials on the FM dial.

Well, maybe if satellite radio really takes off, maybe FM will return to its original place. I know it's not likely, but dreaming's fun.

#336 Killian Bundy

The latter. Not only is it musically awesome, it also tells a story, the journey through death and beyond. it's seminal, IMO

It's definitely a prog rock masterpiece, but I'm partial to KC, PF, and Yes. Plus I've got a soft spot for Todd Rundgren's Utopia. Listen to the IKON...

347 big L  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:15:29pm

The US State Dept needs to go back to the restrictions stamped on pages in the US passports. that is that travel to North Viet and cuba and Nork and so forth was restricted or blocked whatev the language was, it was prohibited.
These probibitions or restrictions need to be replaced onthe Passports.
Instead the new ones have Spanish bpoilerplate in them as well as Eng and French. Wishy /washy sellout stuff.

348 snooze  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:16:06pm

#201 Earth2moonbat

Here's a question that maybe some European here can answer: Is this SOP in Europe for the opposition politicians to go meeting with dictators behind the backs of the elected leaders? Or has the demo party pioneered a new way to be subversive?

Well, the Israeli Left has been meeting with Yasser Arafat and other PLO members when it was actually illegal since the PLO was considered a terrorist organization openly aiming at the annihilation of Israel. It finally lead to the Oslo process. I hope you'll have better luck with whichever process your Left is leading you into.

349 Highrise  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:16:07pm

39 savage_nation 3/30/2007 04:46PM PDT

Do you realize that skank is 3rd in line to the throne? If Bush and Cheney die or are incapacitated, say hi to President Pelosi.

Now more than ever the President and the VP better watch their backs.

350 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:16:32pm

343 cbinflux
Listening to the musical. Quite clever.

351 Dar ul Harbarian  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:17:20pm

I saw this on Drudge

Europe threatens action as Iran airs new 'confession'

The proper headline should be:

Europe threatens "action" as Iran airs new 'confession'

352 Dragon Drop  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:17:20pm

#229 galloping granny

Okay - Fox has the news up. David Hicks is going to serve - get this - 9 months!

And it's the military that's doing the sentencing:

The Miami Herald reported that eight senior military officers, who travelled to the Guantanamo US Navy prison for the purpose, passed a seven-year sentence on Hicks.

But afterwards, a senior Pentagon official, who was unnamed, reduced the sentence to nine months, according to the colonel in charge of the proceedings.

353 big L  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:18:05pm

343-Chinflux- The Four Commandments and Six Non-Binding resolutions...

354 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:18:33pm

Actually, Pelosi is second in line, Bush isn't in line.

/pet peeve

355 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:18:58pm
356 formercorpsman  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:19:04pm

Sage,

#341 savage

Ha, the first time I ever heard of Van Halen was in '76 when they played at our high school dance.

Mammouth?

Massive VH here.

14 shows.

Old, new.

357 gamegrid  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:20:17pm

The only thing that can come out of these meeting is propaganda being used to continue to fool the public.

I'm talking about on CNN, not in Syria, by the way.

358 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:20:46pm
359 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:21:12pm
#352 Dragon Drop

And it's the military that's doing the sentencing:

Remember, he's already been in custody for five years.

/not like he shouldn't have just been shot dead on the battlefield

360 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:21:54pm
361 Q-Burn  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:22:34pm

#341 Savage

Jim Ladd's been back on KLOS for a few years now:

[Link: www.955klos.com...]

362 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:23:11pm
363 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:25:25pm
364 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:26:12pm

TO: Killian Bundy
RE: Second, Third, Whatever It Takes

"Actually, Pelosi is second in line, Bush isn't in line." -- Killian Bundy

From my perspective, the man in place is at the head of the 'line'.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. Are YOU the anti-semantic, here? Or am I?

365 pat  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:27:38pm

#351 Dar ul Harbarian
As I said earlier, the Euros promise not to watch 300 if their cowardly marines are returned.

366 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:28:54pm

TO: savage_nation
RE: Say WHAT!?!?!?!

"Angry Samoans"?

Hardly.

First off, they don't look like Samoans.

Secondly, you don't WANT to get a Samoan 'angry'. Especially at YOURSELF.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

367 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:30:32pm
#364 Chuck Pelto

From my perspective, the man in place is at the head of the 'line'

.

Whatever.

/he already has the job, why would he need to stand in 'line' for it?

368 whiskeybeerwine  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:31:05pm

Bitch

369 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:32:23pm
370 Highrise  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:33:15pm

140 Durendal 3/30/2007 05:25PM PDT

you know, if some terrorists managed to capture her & such it would be quite interesting.

Given GB's situation atm and that we may need to act, it's doubly stupid that she take this trip. It really makes me wonder on her timing. Maybe she thinks GB wouldn't strike with her over in that area?
---

49 NoSubmission 3/30/2007 04:50PM PDT

OT
... but speaking of traitors,
Here is the webpage for The View. You'll see on the upper left where you can 'Email Your View' to the hosts... all of them except Rosie that is. Gee, I wonder why?

Another funny one is on Rosie's own blog:

no new questions
taking a little break

No more questions or emailing her there either lol.

371 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:34:01pm
#364 Chuck Pelto

From my perspective, the man in place is at the head of the 'line'.

Oh yeah, it's called the line of succession.

/can Bush succeed himself?

372 Highrise  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:34:07pm

142 ArmyWife

hehe we think alike..I just read your post after posting mine.

373 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:34:19pm
374 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:35:22pm

TO: Killian Bundy
RE: The Man, the Line and the Place

"he already has the job, why would he need to stand in 'line' for it?" -- Killian Bundy

The Place is what is important. The Man at the first in the Line. At the head of the Line is the Place.

The Man stands in the Place. And therefore he, the Man, has the Power. He IS the Man.

All hail, the Man. Hail to the Chief. Forever and ever...ah Man!

Sorry...getting late...and it just rolled out of my fingertips like that.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[If you can't have fun with it, maybe you should be doing something else. -- cbpelto]

375 _remembertonyc  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:37:19pm

i hope that republican congressman in the delegation leaves a GPS tracking chip in assad's office ... that will make the trip worth it.

376 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:39:50pm
#374 Chuck Pelto

If you can't have fun with it, maybe you should be doing something else.

Like I said, it's a pet peeve of mine. Your results may vary.

/I can have fun with it

377 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:42:32pm

TO: galloping granny
RE: [OT] A Method to This Madness

"David Hicks is going to serve - get this - 9 months!" -- galloping granny

There could be a number of reasons for this that we might not appreciate at first glance.

I was wondering as to whether or not there was a method to this [apparent] madness and the thought struck me that they could be killing multiple birds with one 'stone'.

The guys admit to guilt. Get a stiff sentence. Then the sentence is commuted. An 'act of mercy', while extracting a bona fide confession of guilt.

This, as opposed to what the Iranians are doing with some Brit Marines and Swabbies.

Whether it works is another matter. It might gain Bush SOME 'good will' from the LLL, but I doubt if that will translate into anything useful. As they'll probably see it as a sign of weakness and press for more advantage...just like their Islamist bretheren.

And it won't do him much good with his base either. ESPECIALLY if Hicks and his ilk just go back to being jihadis, upon release. Just like those others released before him.

As I commented in an earlier post on this thread, Bush is "too kind". Must be the christian in him.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

378 Da_Beerfreak  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:43:58pm
#371 Killian Bundy 3/30/2007 07:34PM PDT
#364 Chuck Pelto
From my perspective, the man in place is at the head of the 'line'.

Oh yeah, it's called the line of succession.

/can Bush succeed himself?

Yes, but only once. Bush succeeded Clinton in 2001 and he succeeded hinself in 2005. By law someone else will have to succeed him in 2009.

379 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:46:32pm

TO: Killian Bundy
RE: Can He Do It?

"can Bush succeed himself?" -- Killian Bundy

I wish he could succeed, but as you may have guessed from my comments here, I have my doubts.

He's just got too much of the christian in him to be hard enough to REALLY succeed.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[WARNING! WARNING! KWill Bundy, Dr. Smith. Schitzophrenic Subject Matter Jump! Extreme Danger!]

380 cbinflux  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:47:10pm

Muslim cabbies offer free rides for the blind and their dogs

MINNEAPOLIS Muslim cabdrivers at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport are offering blind people and their guide dogs free rides during an upcoming convention.

The Muslim cabbies are under fire for allegedly refusing service on religious grounds. Many Muslims believe dogs are unclean.

But about 300 cabbies are offering free rides to people attending the National Federation of the Blind convention next month.

They hope to counter the perception that they refuse to carry service dogs. The Council on American-Islamic Relations says the cabbies claim such refusals never took place.

The president of the federation's Minnesota chapter gave the offer of free rides a cool reception. Joyce Scanlan says she'd prefer the cabdrivers simply do their jobs.


[Link: news.postbulletin.com...]

/As long as the dog is not a St. Bernard kegger.

381 Durendal  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:47:19pm

#241 galloping granny

as i was saying before, China/Russia is spinning off Saudi from our side by demonstrating American impotence. India also. what the Saudis don't know is that China will crush Islam like an ant when the time comes

382 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:52:57pm
#379 Chuck Pelto

[WARNING! WARNING! KWill Bundy, Dr. Smith. Schitzophrenic Subject Matter Jump! Extreme Danger!]

Sorry, I got called out on the use of the word literal yesterday and I deserved it.

/maybe I'm still a bit raw from that

383 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:53:21pm

TO: Durendal
RE: Yeah...

"what the Saudis don't know is that China will crush Islam like an ant when the time comes" -- Durendal

...seems to me I read about something like that happening in a book somewhere. A real OLD Book. I think the title is Revelation. It's part of a collection of books in that Old Book.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Dates in prophecy are closer than they appear.]

384 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:54:01pm
385 DesertSage  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 5:54:37pm

#373 song_and_dance_man

BTW this was in 1976.

A lot of things happened in '76. I was 16 as was Savage, both living in LA.
I wasn't old enough to vote, but if I could have, I would have voted for Carter because I was a flaming liberal retard like most young people. Thank God the Marines and Ronald Reagan straightened me out.

386 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:01:47pm
387 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:01:47pm

TO: Killian Bundy
RE: SOOOooo...

"Sorry, I got called out on the use of the word literal yesterday and I deserved it." -- Killian Bundy

YOU'RE the anti-semantic here.

I'm just a tad schitzie tonight.

RE: The Raw and the Cooked

"maybe I'm still a bit raw from that" -- Killian Bundy

I've got a metal meat tenderizer. We could make swiss steak!

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Where's Hannibal Lector now that we REALLY need him?]

388 Highrise  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:04:15pm

continuum is a nitwit...I always have a problem with stating the obvious.

Your first post:

326 Continuum 11/12/2006 02:58PM PST

I want to congratulate you on the best comedy blog in the blog-o-sphere. Keep up the good work!

A quick review of your other posts shows you have a history of diarrhea of the mouth.

No dates tonight and a little pissy about it eh?

389 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:07:45pm
#387 Chuck Pelto

TO: Killian Bundy
RE: SOOOooo...

Okay.

/are we done now?

390 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:08:03pm

TO: song_and_dance_man
RE: [OT] Carter

"I solemnly swear and regret voting for the first time for Carter." -- song_and_dance_man

Well...as Evan Sayet said the other day, see thread item from a couple days ago (below), even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Even a blind squirrel will find a nut. Or should the be a blind rabbit find Jimmy in a canoe?

At any rate, Carter did ONE thing right. Upon coming into office he revoked, or did not renew, the standing Executive Order declaring a national "State of Emergency".

We'd been living under such governance since FDR.

Nobody is willing to tell me WHAT this EO grants to various agencies that they would not have if it were not in effect. I've asked my Congressional delegates about it and they never reply. Maybe if others asked theirs we'd find out something 'interesting'.

Reagan but it back into effect. It's been in effect, again, ever since.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[What they are telling you could be important. What they are NOT telling you could be vital. -- cbpelto]

391 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:10:03pm
392 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:11:34pm

TO: Killian Bundy
RE: Do Not Reply!

"are we done now?" -- Killian Bundy

I sure hope so. It's getting a little 'thin'.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Programming, like punning is a play on words.]

393 cultureofdeath  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:14:40pm

Evening.

394 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:17:23pm
#392 Chuck Pelto

RE: Do Not Reply!

Sorry.

/thank you for your service

395 tommoon  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:20:17pm

test

396 tommoon  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:22:36pm

Scary, imagine this, President Clinton, Vice President Obama, and Speaker of the House Pelosi. We may be only two years away.

397 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:25:40pm
#396 tommoon

Scary, imagine this, President Clinton, Vice President Obama, and Speaker of the House Pelosi. We may be only two years away.

Don't forget her Cabinet.

/really scary

398 soccerdad  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:28:48pm

This is absolute lunacy! And possibly treasonous...

IIRC ...It is the executive branch's EXCLUSIVE duty to conduct foreign policy. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Jeez...she's third in friggin line for the presidency? Oh please SS...watch W and Cheney well...please?

399 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:30:50pm
400 tommoon  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:32:04pm

Killian Bundy
This will make clinton 1, look like an evening with Lawrence Welk. This new Windows Vista computer sucks.

401 mich-again  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:32:16pm

Maybe she'll ask Jr. whatever happened to the city of Hama. yeah right. Like the most powerful democrat in the USA would even know about that minor incident during the 1980's in which some 40,000 Syrians were murdered by their own government. Of course, Rosie O'puke probably has a conspiracy to blame that on Bush too.

402 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:35:44pm

TO: song_and_dance_man
RE: [OT] What Good the EO

"So, with this ignorance, and with what you have submitted, must with you ask what good is he EO.

An abrogation of constitutional law?" -- song_and_dance_man

Probably. But what parts?

Now that the Dems have control of Congress, do ya think they'll be more fothcoming with what is changed under this EO?

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Power does not corrupt man; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power. -- George Bernard Shaw]

403 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:39:20pm

TO: tommoon
RE: [OT] Vista

"This new Windows Vista computer sucks." -- tommoon

Go HERE!

You could probably USE a 'laugh'.

Enjoy,

Chuck(le)
[When Microsoft FINALLY makes a product that doesn't suck...it'll be a vacuum cleaner.

And Vista is proof.]

404 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:41:51pm
#400 tommoon

This new Windows Vista computer sucks.

I've heard it takes time to get it to behave. XP is looking pretty good by comparison.

/had to take advantage of the Dell offer to order Vista for $10.70 before the end of the month, not sure I'll install it

405 jbinnout  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:42:03pm

Democrats are like birthdays, every year they get harder to take.

406 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:43:28pm
407 tommoon  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:51:32pm

Chuck Pelto & Killian Bundy

I'm working at less than 50% of my XP software working on Vista. No downloads including games, this really hurts, no patches, email screwed up, outlook express has been replaced with something new that my subscriber does not reconize. I'm taking it back and repair my old Windows XP.

408 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 6:58:39pm

TO: tommoon
RE: [OT] Better Than Expected

"I'm working at less than 50% of my XP software working on Vista. " -- tommoon

The person I mention in the link had even less success than you're reporting.

RE: [OT] Caaarrryyy Meee Baaack Tooo OoooOld XP

"I'm taking it back and repair my old Windows XP." -- tommoon

Hmmm...so you're saying that the Upgrade to Vista Decision Flowchart is accurate about older machines that can run OSes before 2000 and XP.

Interesting...

...and I thought the creators of the chart were just being funny.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Oxymoron: Microsoft Works]

P.S. Based on your report and the correlation with the Vista Flowchart, I get the distinct impression that Vista is more about selling new hardware than it is improving the work environment. And there might be something else that we're unaware of to it as well.

409 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:02:04pm
#407 tommoon

I'm working at less than 50% of my XP software working on Vista. No downloads including games, this really hurts, no patches, email screwed up, outlook express has been replaced with something new that my subscriber does not reconize. I'm taking it back and repair my old Windows XP.

Thanks for the heads up.

/sorry you are a Vista victim

410 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:05:19pm
#408 Chuck Pelto

And there might be something else that we're unaware of to it as well.

Damn right, like a back door.

/thinking China

411 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:07:52pm
412 RTLM  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:13:31pm

In one swoop we'll have exported the largest ever junket of pure political buffoonery that has ever taken wing. The press will be hysterical/maddening.

Note to the crew: Get yourselves and the airplane back safely.

And try not to lose the baggage.

413 budvarakbar  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:19:05pm

I just realized here that PaLousie's mission in the DemocRAT scheme of things is to be so rotten (along with Rosie O'DUMBELL) as to suck off some of the naturally occuring anti-SHREW godawful b-tch normal reaction to the hildabeast as to allow some floatation to the super shrew's candidacy -- heard anything outta the Hildabeast over the last week? -- I thought so!

414 RTLM  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:20:12pm

The idiots are landing in Syria when at the same time Syria's best (only) ally has KIDNAPPED 15 sailors.

They are naive and stupid. Add arrogant and petulant as well. Rebelling like juveniles against Daddy Bush.

"I'm gonna go to that rave anyway and you can't stop me, DAD!".

If they put that air crew in danger they are responsible.

415 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:20:17pm

TO: song_and_dance_man
RE: [OT] Educational Material on EO

'don't like cliffhangers. OK I'm stumped since I'm no constitutional scholar. Educate me, and others on the edge of their seats, if you will." -- song_and_dance_man

I don't know much more than what you've seen me post here, except that I discovered this EO back in the mid-90s, shortly after his re-election. For Clinton it was 'justified' by his concern about, get this, Weapons of Mass Destruction.

I found it in a copy of the Federal Record. Xeroxed it and carried it with me in my billfold for years. But it wore out from me showing it to people who didn't believe it existed. [Note: I should probably go get another.]

Bush, however, has justification for it, vis-a-vis 9/11. But why Reagan and Bush the Elder or Clinton had it I can only imagine. And what I imagine is not necessarily 'good'. There may have been justification, vis-a-vis Reagan and the Sovs. Even for Bush the Elder. But Clinton? WMDs?

I should get another copy of it, scan it, and shove it in the face of every Dhimmicrat who claims Saddam Hussein didn't have WMDs. If HE didn't who the heck was Clinton worried about?

Now that you've brought that to mind, I think i WILL go down to the library and do EXACTLY that.

Thanks...

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[For the rest of us who are not politicians, the less power a politician has, the better—the less we have to fear from him. -- Gyorgy Konrad]

416 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:26:23pm

TO: Killian Bundy
RE: [OT] Dang!

'Damn right, like a back door.

/thinking China" -- Killian Bundy

You might have something there. I wonder how much of the code was developed by Chinese nationals.

Cripes! I had not thought of THAT. I'm reminded of Tom Clancy's The Bear and the Dragon and the way the CIA planted spyware into computers supporting a member of the ChiComm Politburo.

Please pardon my paranoia...I'm a retired Army staff puke who now works in computers and reads Tom Clancy. He's been VERY prescient. Indeed, I think Osama bin Laden was inspired by Debt of Honor, which came out in the 1994, to do the 9/11 attacks. ObL supposedly began the planning of 9/11 around 1996.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Never ask what sort of computer a guy drives. If he's a Mac user, he'll tell you. If not, why embarrass him? -- Tom Clancy]

417 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:27:27pm
418 sandrine  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:30:11pm

Pelosi is also traveling with Waxman, Hobson and Lantos, pro Israel Democrats who voted FOR the amendment to protect John Does on airline flights.

And they are also speaking to the Knesset. The fact is the US Administration is talking to Syria non publicly...

As far as I'm concerned, the Administration will redeem itself if it strikes Iranian nuclear sites...

Debka file suggests that such a strike is being prepared...on the other hand, other blogs say the carriers are in waters too narrow and shallow...and therefore, no strike is being prepared...it is all show.. One cannot saber rattle and then look impotent. This snatching of the British soldiers is another provocation...but with or without it, the nuclear facilities remain...so no other provocation is needed.

As for the Pelosi delegation, under the circumstances, the Democrats have no reason to trust anything this administration does and therefore Pelosi is on a fact finding mission of her own for the benefit of her party. .And since Bush shares nothing with Democrats, it is reasonable for Demorats to make their own assessments. Compare this with the united behavior of both parties after 9/11. You reap what you sow. And if the Bush administration has declared war on the Democrats and targeted them with very political US Attorneys

419 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:31:58pm
#415 Chuck Pelto

I should get another copy of it, scan it, and shove it in the face of every Dhimmicrat who claims Saddam Hussein didn't have WMDs.

A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq WMD located in three Syrian sites

Syria WMD Programs Locations 36°02'02"N 37°21'03"E

/these are not the droids you're looking for.

420 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:38:00pm

TO: Killian Bundy
RE: [OT] The Syrian Connection

"A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq WMD located in three Syrian sites" -- Killian Bundy

Oh...I figured out they had them before March 2003. Being fellow Ba'athists and Husseins tricks in moving his warplanes to Iran during GWI.

Not to forget the reports from Sudan about Sudanese ministers, back in getting paranoid about WMDs from Syria being stored in warehouses in Sudan. And reports from Germany that Syria was testing chemical munitions in Darfur.

Anyone with any military intell experience and more than two synapse to rub together could see that writing on the wall. However, your link provides some new supporting evidence.

It is appreciated.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Military Intelligence is not an oxymoron, except to true morons.]

421 RTLM  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:44:24pm

sandrine

the Democrats have no reason to trust anything this administration does and therefore Pelosi is on a fact finding mission of her own for the benefit of her party. .And since Bush shares nothing with Democrats, it is reasonable for Demorats to make their own assessments. Compare this with the united behavior of both parties after 9/11. You reap what you sow. And if the Bush administration has declared war on the Democrats and targeted them with very political US Attorneys

The Dems would rather trust dedicated enemies apparently. I'd trust competent Dems if there were any. Any "assessments" made by the Dems would be well intentioned, but wrong. And as far as this benefiting her party I couldn't care less. I'd rather she do something beneficial to her country. The Dems are in the not-know because they have demonstrated (many times) the inability to keep a secret.

And it is the Dems and the MSM who has declared war on Bush not the other way.

nodroG

422 GGMac  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:46:51pm

Pelosi's going to Syria?

Who died and made her queen?

Or did I miss something - like there's been an amendment to the Constitution giving the party not occupying the oval office permission to stamp their feet, hop on a taxpayer funded flight, consort with the head of a terrorist nation, and do whatever they can to undermine and/or affect the president's foreign policy?

Guess old Tom Jefferson, Ben Franklin, et al, just didn't realize how incompetent they were being in their choices of principles of Republican government - to say nothing of how unfair they were being to the future queen, in limiting her powers.

Sheeesh!

423 Chuck Pelto  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 7:48:27pm

TO: RTLM
RE: On the Nosey!

'The Dems would rather trust dedicated enemies apparently." -- RTLM

I ALWAYS trust people who despise me to tell me the truth of a thing. And nobody else. ;-)

Pelosi will likely come back proclaiming the Dhimmicrats can achieve "Peace in our time."

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[History repeats itself. Especially with the STUPID.]

P.S. I define Stupid as 'ignorant and proud of it'.

424 bluebonnet  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 8:02:43pm

Traitor Pelosi!

425 GGMac  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 8:12:18pm

Now, now, now chillens...we've all jumped to an erroneous conclusion. Pelosi's trip is all innocence - she's going to have the chinless opthamologist check her eyes!

And she's taking the Minnesota baby Imam...er... senator along so's he can meet his patron saint.

(testy tonight - must be the buZZZ from that slab of 70% cocoa chocolate bar I just washed down with a wee bit of Kaluha -hahaha!)

426 Ledger1  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 9:15:50pm

Here is the transcript of Perino lowering on Pelosi’s trip to baby Assad. Perino was somewhat forceful – but should have been more forceful. I think Bush should publicly say Pelosi does not officially represent the USA on foreign policy and should not be taken seriously.

Q Dana, the Speaker of the House is traveling to Syria next week. Wondering what the White House's view on that is.

MS. PERINO: Well, as you know, we do not encourage -- in fact, we discourage members of Congress to make such visits to Syria. This is a country that is a state sponsor of terror, one that is trying to disrupt the Siniora government in Lebanon, and one that is allowing foreign fighters to flow into Iraq from its borders. And so we don't think it's productive to go to Syria and try to -- well, I don't know what she's trying to accomplish. I don't believe that anyone in the administration has spoken to her about it. But in general we do discourage such trips.

Q So specifically on this one -- this will be the highest-ranking U.S. official to go to Syria since the Hariri assassination, even before that, and apparently she's going to meet with President Assad. Would you have a specific message to the Speaker of the House about meeting with President Assad at a time when the administration has even withdrawn our ambassador from Damascus?

MS. PERINO: Well, again, I don't know if anyone has spoken to the Speaker. I do think that, as a general rule -- and this would go for Speaker of the House Pelosi and this apparent trip that she is going to be taking -- that we don't think it's a good idea. We think that someone should take a step back and think about the message that it sends, and the message that it sends to our allies. I'm not sure what the hopes are to -- what she's hoping to accomplish there. I know that Assad probably really wants people to come and have a photo opportunity and have tea with him, and have discussions about where they're coming from, but we do think that's a really bad idea.
Perino lowering the boom on Pelosi, see 50% down

427 RTLM  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 10:50:00pm

And if the Syrians decide to park a truck on the runway...

Whose fault will that be ?

428 Merovign  Fri, Mar 30, 2007 11:19:34pm

#418 sandrine

And they are also speaking to the Knesset. The fact is the US Administration is talking to Syria non publicly...

The Administration has the authority to negotiate with foreign powers. The Senate does not.

Neither does the Supreme Court, but that's a topic for another day.

As for the Pelosi delegation, under the circumstances, the Democrats have no reason to trust anything this administration does and therefore Pelosi is on a fact finding mission of her own for the benefit of her party.

The "Bush Lied" meme is a lie and the Democratic leadership freaking full well knows it. They are not so brain-dead that they can't read, but they are so soul dead that they can embrace a lie for political expediency.

The primary factor hampering information exchange between the Administration and the Senate is the Senate's inability to keep that information from the press and therefore our enemies (who watch CNN ).

Obviously State and the Company are also a wealth of information for anyone who shouldn't have it, but, again, another day.

Compare this with the united behavior of both parties after 9/11. You reap what you sow.

You make an excellent point, though you seem to have a relatively slippery grasp on cause and effect.

And if the Bush administration has declared war on the Democrats and targeted them with very political US Attorneys

Apart from being a sentence fragment, I must have missed the news about the indictment of Jefferson, Murtha and Feinstein, though I am glad to hear the news.

Paranoia, specifically the unjustified fear of repression, may have medical origins. You might want to have a checkup.

429 _remembertonyc  Sat, Mar 31, 2007 4:30:54am

as usual, the NY Post headline nails it:

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

430 FrogMarch  Sat, Mar 31, 2007 5:43:42am

The Democrats need to thank Assad in person for helping to destroy Iraq.

431 Chuck Pelto  Sat, Mar 31, 2007 6:20:56am

TO: All
RE: _remembertonyc's Link to NY Post Article

Great stuff that!

How about a caption contest on LGF for various photoops she'll present for us?

Pelosi Gets Syriass

Regards,

Chuck(le)

432 continuum  Sat, Mar 31, 2007 6:37:19am

Any Member of the House or the Senate Who Travels to Syria should be Removed from Office!

. . . . oh, huh? wait a minute, what's that about Specter?

[Link: www.forward.com...]


I meant to say, Any Member of the House Who Travels to Syria should be Removed from Office!
. . . . what's that, . . . , oh, wait a minute, what's that about Aderholt, and Wolf, . . . who?
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

WHAT?

OK, What I meant to say is that Any Member of the House Who Travels to Syria after This Week Whose Last Isn't Name Isnt David Hobson Should Be Removed From Office

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

Ahem, cough, cough, . . . Wait a sec, what I meant to say, is that Any Member of the House, who is a Woman who Travels to Syria Should Be Removed from Office . . .
Yah, that's it, now it's the way it should be . . .

All those politicians who travel to Syria are traitors, except of course for Specter, Wolf, Aderholt and a few others . . .
Whoooheee, those snarky Dems almost got me, but I saved it for us in the end (hopefully, no one noticed)

433 lacerta  Sat, Mar 31, 2007 3:34:22pm

#432 continuum

Here is what is written in the Logan Act:

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

[Link: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Pelosi and her entourage have not communicated with the white house about the purpose of this visit. Therefore, they are not authorized delegates of the President, and do not have a right to represent US government interests.

[Link: [Link: www.reuters.com...]

Pelosi has the right to go to Syria as a private citizen on her own dime, she can have all the tea and falafel they offer, and she can even pose for propagandistic photos. However, she may not conduct government business.


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