It just never ends.

She will be.....

G-d forbid, of course.

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”

Like the piranha brothers, "Cruel but fair ".

Poo poo poo.

Mercy, compassion - qualities of Islamists from Mohammed onward.

Hamsa hamsa hamsa

That debate sure sounds like it is rather one sided.

Merciful?

Merciful?

Shoom vi Batzal.

Allah the most merciful.

Showing mercy.

Although ElBayly believes a death sentence is warranted for Hirsi Ali, he stressed that America is not the jurisdiction where such a crime should be punished. Instead, Hirsi Ali should be judged in a Muslim country after being given a trial, he added.

Which, with the knowledge that the Muslims believe all the world to be potentially Islamic, amounts to a distinction without difference.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

"Radical Christianity is worse than radical Islam....in this country."

~ Rosie O'Donnell

Mediathink: a death penalty is no different when carried out against a political dissenter in a third world country than when it is carried out against a serial murderer here.

But note, Friends, that he says NOTHING to counter her well-researched, clearly elucidated arguments! Nothing to refute the problems she's hated for revealing publicly!

"Imam" simply says "Kill her, for her attacks on our fair faith!"

Kill them = Islam's all-purpose cureall!

#14 DesertSage 4/22/2007 8:27:33 am PDT

"Radical Christianity is worse than radical Islam....in this country."

~ Rosie O'Donnell

Is that an actual quote? I would like to add it to my Rosie Quotes with a cite to a source.

These people are just mad. Why the hell isn't anyone doing anything about this? Did they learn nothing from the Salman Rushdie affair? Apparently not.

When ex-Muslim Ayaan Hirsi Ali appeared at the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown, Muslim groups tried to have her speech shut down.

the radical totalitarian leftist/radical islamist convergence continues. They use the same tactics.

A "Merciful" Show trial and "Merciful" execution for a dissenting woman who has an obvious grievance against her OWN religion. The bastard has the gull to criticize the American legal system for not providing the tools to silence her. They truly do fear intelligent, independent women.

I speak peace
when peace is spoken
but I speak war
when your hate is provoking....

The article itself is reasonable other than burying the imam's statement but a better hed would have been:

Immigrant Imam Counsels Murder

Where is the outspoken leadership of NOW ?

Where are the leaders of the "rainbow" equal rights groups ?

...sorry, they don't have a "beef" with those they should fear most.

The Qutbistas seem to be coming out more frequently.

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”

And if you don't try to understand their very merciful religion, they will kill you.

Religion of Mercy Killings!

BabbaZee

Right on!

How does this scum get into our country and why can't we manage to send it back to the hell it came from?

If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death

There shall be no compulsion in religion.

Surah 2:256

/and they say there are no contradictions in islam

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

The FBI and ICE will take care of this. I am sure that as we speak they are putting together a case against Hirsi Ali.

"Please try to understand how merciful I am as I behead you for your crime of defaming the peaceful and merciful religion of allah, the demon-possessed one"

And of course, by a female child, he means any girl under age nine.... isn't that how it is? A girl has to be age 9 or older in order to have the death penalty carried out? Am I right?

...America is not the jurisdiction where such a crime should be punished.

Yeah, what with us having that pesky Constitution, and all.

“If it is found that a person is mentally unstable, or a child or disabled, there should be no punishment,”

Which of those are you, ElBayly?

Can't this guy be arrested for incitement to commit murder?

He just doubled his overseas quota

Charles and to all the lizards out there, keep reporting and posting every reprehensible statement made by these "leaders" and their devoted followers from the so-called religion of peace from Mecca.

We have a special duty to free speech and to freedom. These people, no matter what kind of talk or action, needed to be stopped.

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”

Rotating title nomination.

#17 ProUSA

Is that an actual quote?

No, sorry I was paraphrasing.
Here's the actual quote:

"radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America."

~ Rosie O'Donnell

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

“If it is found that a person is mentally unstable, or a child or disabled, there should be no punishment,” he said.

You'd have to be crazy to speak out against islam.

/sarc

"And if you don't try to understand their very merciful religion, they will kill you."

And if you don't try to understand their very merciful religion -- their way, the way they want you to -- they will kill you.

#26 Muadib

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”

And if you don't try to understand their very merciful religion, they will kill you.

It is "when" you understand it - They kill you.

#39
I second that rotating title nomination!

I have no words today, only songs.

“She has been identified as one who has defamed the faith. If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death,” said ElBayly, who came to the U.S. from Egypt in 1976. ...

And if you decide to reject and leave this depraved and deformed death cult, you can say whatever the hell you want!

Looks like our forces have the Taliban holed up somewhere in the vicinity of U of Pittsburg.

This is in Murtha's district.
Was he out supporting Sharia?
Maybe he was down at the bank cashing his check.
Mr unindicted ABSCAM himself.
No corruption here.
Keep moving, keep moving.

And in a perfect example of the bizarre disconnect between reality and the shiny happy multicultural world of the media, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review calls this a “debate on religious freedom.”

Ah, the MSM. Boldly going nowhere...

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”
If you don't obey you're killed - check.
And bacon in the koran is a hate crime - check. Women are worth a fraction of men - check.
Sexuallay-frustrated, illiterate, rape and pillage proponent rewrites biblical history - check.
/Still struggling with the pigs and apes thing.

We can always count on the "shiny happy" left-wing DNC media to reserve rare tolerance of religion when it comes to radical death threats from the left's preferred religion.

Heads at the newspaper must have been exploding after ElBayly's comments - how on earth could they bring balance to such extreme views within mainstream islam? Simple. Treat this as a history lesson and bring up the Inquisition!

Centuries ago, Lengwin said, the church imposed harsh punishment -- including execution -- upon people viewed as heretics. He cited as an example the Roman Inquisition trial of 15th century Italian astronomer Galileo Galilei, who was tried by the church, threatened with torture and sentenced to prison for his teachings on the motions of the earth.

With the evolution of the church, things have changed.

This was the most patronizing article I've read in a long time. Disgusting.

American Blacks, Hispanics and Women who have been beguiled Islam's "claims" of Justice and equality have no idea what a bill of goods are being sold

[Link: entertainment.timesonline.co.uk...]

Ot:

Can I just say "to Hell with Harry Reid"

Our sentiments exactly.

Plenty of support for the imam from the "Department of Peace" crowd, who seem to overlook the imam's note of disappointment that "We have no capacity to execute a sentence:"

Islamic leaders tried unsuccessfully to convince university officials to cancel her appearance, arguing that her attacks against Muslims are "poisonous."

Imam Fouad ElBayly, president of the Islamic Center of Johnstown, feared her mere presence would incite violence. He said that in the eyes of the Islamic community, Hirsi Ali's rejection of her Muslim faith and "all of her lies" warrant a death sentence.

He worried that someone would try to carry it out.

"I'm trying to control my people here. I don't want people to get hot and cause trouble," said ElBayly, whose community includes an active core of about 30 families and a number of others who attend occasional services and programs.

"We have no capacity to execute a sentence, but her sentence would be death for turning on her religion to make a profit and for speaking out against it."

Etta Albright, a member of the Altoona chapter of the national Peace Alliance, said she was "saddened" by what she called the negative impact and threat Hirsi Ali's appearance presented to the Islamic community.

"I sympathize with the Muslim community's concerns on what kind of inflammatory impact this could have on the community," she said.

Albright, of Cresson, said the organization's goal is to establish a federal law creating a cabinet level U.S. Department of Peace to develop methods of conflict resolution. She said the Pitt program further demonstrates the need for discussion about all religions.

[Link: www.pittsburghlive.com...]

If this ElBayly weasel isn't a US citizen, he should be handcuffed and thrown onto the next plane back to the armpit he came from. I'll THIRD the rotating title nomination.

“She has been identified as one who has defamed the faith. If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death,” said ElBayly, who came to the U.S. from Egypt in 1976. ...

ALOHA SNACKBAR!
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ALOHA SNACKBAR!
ALOHA SNACKBAR!
ALOHA SNACKBAR!
ALOHA SNACKBAR!
ALOHA SNACKBAR!
ALOHA SNACKBAR!
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Come 'n' get me, clown.

Humph dumph de dumph dumph.

Johnstown. I wonder --could it be that the reason the lecture was kept in place, and the U officials did not back down, has something to do with perhaps the people in that town having become stronger of character through the tragedy of their flood so many years ago.....? (the flood that resembled the more recent one in the Gaza Strip....although not made up of garbage..... ):

The Fwench are voting today ... should be remotely interesting.

Isn't making a death threat a crime in PA? Death threats are not protected speech under the First Amendment

ElBayly haiku:

Muslim cleric speaks
The message never wavers;
Death to infidels.

"It's a very merciful religion if you try to understand it."

Hmmmm... reminds me of something...

"The Emperor is not as forgiving..."

#39 NoSubmission 4/22/2007 8:38:22 am PDT

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”

Rotating title nomination.

Got my vote.

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”

*BAM*

There goes my Irony Meter. Fifth one this week. Dammit!

"She has been identified as one who has defamed the faith. If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death," said ElBayly, who came to the U.S. from Egypt in 1976.

This reminds me of Yusuf "Cat Stevens" Islam justifying Salman Rushdie's death sentence.

Although ElBayly believes a death sentence is warranted for Hirsi Ali, he stressed that America is not the jurisdiction where such a crime should be punished.

Not unless you want to go to jail for murder...something in the Constitution about religious and intellectual freedom, I think.

Instead, Hirsi Ali should be judged in a Muslim country after being given a trial, he added.

Because in a muslim country it would not be murder, it would be a state sponsored execution of a criminal...something in the koran about religious and intellectual freedom, I think.

Thank you Pittsburgh Tribune-Review for helping me understand this debate on religious freedoms. My understanding is near complete. Hirsi Ali’s concerns are but only minor complaints. Thank you.

#43 NoLimit

I understand them enough to know there's a huge problem coming our way.

#45 BabbaZee

Woohoooo, keep rocking. }:) (Trying keep my language down.)

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”

For me, this is not hard to understand. If a theology stresses isolation from the general society around you, and your circle of social interactions is of like minded persons, then it is very easy to come to believe certain things and be assured in your thinking.

We have a group in this country that very much thinks like Islam, minus all the "killing options." Jehovah's Witnesses very much think that they are the ONLY ones that will be saved, non Witnesses will not reap any benefits from God, and all of this is due to God's mercy. In order to keep their flock busy, and removed from the world, they have 5 meetings a week, door to door service once or twice a week, in-home book studies once a week, large regional meetings 4 times a year and so on.

I don't relate any of this to put down the Witnesses, just to show you that it is very easy for a group to re-socialize people. The Witness members consist of many well educated people, doctors, lawyers, professionals etc. And you can find them just down any street from you.

Like I say, the only thing missing is the killing. They look at an apostate in the same light as Islam does, non Witness family members are shunned, they will report each other to the elders if they see a member sinning, they tell you what secular work is proper, they suggest how women should modestly dress, women are defiantly subservient to the men in the congregation and so on. Someday I may do a comparative list of practices.

So why are we so amazed when we hear what comes out of Islam. The mindset is more common than most know.

In 1919, the US government jailed 3 leaders of the Witness governing body for sedation. Maybe Islam needs to be treated the same way.

Walter in Golden, Co.

#65 Pawn of the Oppressor 4/22/2007 8:48:08 am PDT

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”
*BAM*

There goes my Irony Meter. Fifth one this week. Dammit!

If you put a couple of bottles of Abita TURBODOG in the circuit, you'll get the necessary impedance.

The evil Joooos.

#42 gdcritter

Their way is no way to treat a human being!

I dont understand Muslim rhetoric in absolute faith.
As humans its natural for us to ask questions about faith and spirituality. Christians and Jews do that all the time because it challenges us to have and keep the faith. But in Islam its absolute.
as my late Zaida said absolute evil corrupts absolutely
This is true for radical Islam also.

Muslim Cleric: "Islam is a merciful religion. We only call for the death of nonbelievers and apostates, well and a few others such as homosexuals."

Leftists: [swooning] "Isn't that just wonderful? It really is a tolerant and peaceful religion."

But we do understand. Islam is only concerned with spreading its message of intolerance by killing and dominating all who resist. Pretty straightforward concept.

Whoa - 70 some odd comment on this thread already - no wonder I was talking to myself on the DT! LOL!

BabbaZee - if you're still around please check your e-mail.

Looks like Paris ain't the only major city with a major racaille problem, by half!

/any fluffy bunnies sighted yet?

This takes me immediately back to the excellent article I read last week after following the link here to Bill Whittle's pieces on critical thinking.

What we have here is a terrific example of someone preaching "Do as I say, not as I do".

This pathetic flake comes into our country and under the guise of "religious freedom" proclaims we must all adhere to "HIS" religion.

*takes white kerchief from his pocket and throws it*

BULLSHIT!

Here's a perfect example of someone with a "diseased brain" as Whittle alludes.

This POS should be ostracized for the hateful bigot he is. If he's so interested in following sha'ria law, why is he here in the first place? He's free to return to the 7th century caves he and his ilk crawled out of!

When ex-Muslim Ayaan Hirsi Ali appeared at the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown, Muslim groups tried to have her speech shut dow

let's give some credit to the reporter. her talks are usualy covered something like....

peaceful student group protests bigot's hate speech.

it's nice to see the media no longer covering up the crazy/evil.

Instead, Hirsi Ali should be judged in a Muslim country after being given a trial, he added.

Then after a judge in a shariah court in Somalia or Pakistan sentences her to death in absentia, some wacko will assassinate her because he feels it's his divine duty.

"The Prophet Mohammed was a peacemaker and a role model for humanity," she said. "My understanding is that he was a peaceful person who believed that religion was a choice. He tried to teach people and bring them into it, not punish them."

No, you only got punished if you checked it out and decided that Islam was not for you.

You poor buggers are the ones that are lost. Not us.

At least we're trying to contain the disease in the NL. And we will.

You're going to be swamped by your own PC'ness.

Domination is never a good concept.

We're sorry.

#83 gigantor
Do tell! What's going on over there that constitutes "trying to contain the disease"? We could use some good news.

Although ElBayly believes a death sentence is warranted for Hirsi Ali, he stressed that America is not the jurisdiction where such a crime should be punished.

Note that by saying this he is as much as saying that America is just another jurisdiction under Shariat.

Note to ElBayly: Both the Amish and the Mormons had a relatively hard time convincing America to adapt to their ways, instead they have since adapted to ours, the Amish even have separate enclaves. Your church will adapt too, or it will not survive in the long term. Consider that the sentence of the court of reality.

#83 gigantor

Yeah, that's it. The EU, and especially the NL, are really taking strong stands against Islam. Time to gloat over America's destruction.

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”
However it appears that no one understands it, particularly Muslims.

If the libbies really meant what they said about political correctness, they'd run this guy out of the country on a rail for bigotry faster than Don Imus.

Of course, when you suffer from a "defective brain" you can't think critically enough to comprehend the irony.

Mel meets Woody.

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”

Mercy = sharp knife

They argued that Hirsi Ali’s attacks against the Muslim faith in her book, “Infidel,” and movie, “Submission,” are “poisonous and unjustified” and create dissension in their community.

But dar ul harb vs dar ul islam is just religious talk. All this us-vs-them-ism ends when there is no more them. Then there will be peace.

Got it.

OT: Pakistan trying to encourage tourism by self-insuring for terrorism:

Islamabad, 20 April (AKI/DAWN) - Pakistan has decided to provide risk insurance coverage to foreign tourists, business people and foreign investors with a view to offering them reasonable protection against any terrorist act. Foreigners’ reluctance to travel to Pakistan since 9/11 has seriously impacted tourism and economic growth in terms of foreign investments, business and foreign exchange. Commerce Minister Humayun Akhtar Khan told a press conference Thursday that due to limited coverage and high premiums, the number of foreigners visiting Pakistan has dropped substantially in last few years as Pakistan was declared a high-risk zone.

Answering a question, the National Insurance Company chairman Abid Javed Akbar said that under the scheme Pakistan would provide normal rate of insurance to foreign tourists against the foreign insurance company’s exorbitant premium rates for terrorism cover, which is between 50 per cent and 200 per cent higher than the normal travel insurance.

He said the insurance coverage will be extended to government delegates, official trade delegates, business travels and tourism. The scheme will be available for a period of one week or one month.

Under the industrial insurance coverage, property risk will be covered up to Rs600 million with a reasonable competitive premium. Moreover, rates have now been reduced and ceilings have been increased substantially to take care of major foreign investments and funded projects.

I can see it now, "Please keep your arms inside the bus at all times.....if you look to your left you can see Osama's cave, and around the corner we will soon come to a stoning pit...."

86

We're deporting the pricks, we're putting the 'asylum' seekers in camps, they're getting their 'claims' adjudged in 48 hours, and our claims have dropped enormously.

We're not a 'destination' anymore. How about you?

83 gigantor
I beg to differ. We don't have riots here. We are not backing down to intmidation. Ms. Hirsi Ali still has her head. The list goes on.

What is NL doing?

/Way to go on making friends on LGF.

#83 gigantor

It was a great start evicting Ayaan Hirsi Ali from her apartment because the neighbors were inconvenienced by all of those death threats against her.

You certainly dealt with her, didn't you?

..he stressed that America is not the jurisdiction where such a crime should be punished.

Oh, it's okay then, just a debate.

So are we going to "tolerate" him until he actually kills somebody?

ElBayly and his followers should move to Jonestown.

johnstown is murtha territory

88

No gloating at all.

But before you begin criticizing us, clean up your own back yard..

At least we're doing something besides wring our hands.

#75 arier_tzvi

I don't understand Muslim rhetoric in absolute faith.

When the name of the religion literally means "submission", there's no room for the non-submissive. That's what the "all religions are the same" crowd refuses to acknowledge. This one very explicitly says that there is no room for any questioning or any thought. How many other religions go by the name "submission"?

94 gigantor
The big old bad old USA is now a destination for those who are fleeing muslim rampages in Europe and elsewhere.

95

What riots do we have here? The disturbance in Utrecht a few weeks ago?

Again, we're taking care of it. Ourselves. And it's working.

Refer to Paul Belien about the nature of Holland's society today:

It is no coincidence that the collapse of Western civilisation, complete with political assassinations, is most visible in the country which in the past three decades has taken secularization, multiculturalism, tolerance of alternative lifestyles, drug abuse and other fads to its furthest extremes. The murders of Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh have led to some Dutch soul-searching. Voters have shifted dramatically to the right, but the collapse of Dutch society is most visible in its emigration figures. Since 2003 emigration exceeds immigration: 110,235 people (mostly Dutch natives) left the Netherlands last year, compared to 94,019 people (many of them Muslims) moving in. In the first half of this year 53,808 people moved out, compared to 40,842 moving in. To lose 100,000 natives a year is a lot for a country of 16 million, one million of whom already are Muslim immigrants. The emigrants are leaving for Western countries such as Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Scandinavia and the United States.

[Link: www.brusselsjournal.com...]

Also take note of the percentages of Muslims in the US vs. NL.

102

Oh, really?

#100 gigantor
Again I ask, could you be more specific? What exactly is NL doing about this problem? I'm not necessarily doubting you, but I would like some facts.

Savage Nation; not to create a problem, but I am letting my granddaughter read some of these posts, can you tone down the foul language a bit.

#67 Sharmuta

What Ms. Hirsi Ali has to fear most, other than being murdered here, is;

1. Being "tried in absentia" and sentenced to death by an Islamic court somewhere. (Excuse this one if it has in fact already been done, which would not surprise me.)

2. Being abducted and forcibly taken to an Islamic country for "trial". By the standards of Sharia, apparently any such country will do, it doesn't have to be her native land. Thus, she could be "disappeared" in the U.S., and surface in front of Sharia court in Iran or Syria, with the court piously proclaiming that she had "repented" and "come of her own free will to face the judgment of Allah".

3. Following a Democrat winning the White House in November of next year, being declared persona non grata and ejected from the U.S. by the likes of Hillary, Obama, Edwards et al. And being delivered to (2) above by Federal officers "in the interest of international peace and understanding". (AKA the Ramsay Clark Method.)

The fact that those who supported the Islamists who want her dead, are also supporters of Dennis Kucinich's moonbeam about a Cabinet level "Department of Peace" to replace the Defense Department, shows that they are firmly in the camp that believes that ""Humanity' is what matters; people as individuals are irrelevant". (Statement made to me in 11th grade by my full-on Marxist civics teacher.) This is something that everyone should ponder when deciding who to vote for. Anyone who garners support from this lot is probably not safe to have in public office.

For that matter, they probably shouldn't be allowed to have sharp objects, either.

cheers

eon

83 gigantor

You poor buggers are the ones that are lost. Not us.

At least we're trying to contain the disease in the NL. And we will.

You're going to be swamped by your own PC'ness.

If you were containing the disease in the Netherlands, Ayaan would not have needed to flee in the first place.

#91 luzbone

Good one.

And people call me a knuckle dragger because I won't honer anything Muslim.....I want nothing from Islam other than it leave the West and return to the ME. Poor woman. I believe she needs to give up Islam and find something better to do.

#100 gaginator
Yeah, Spain's reaction to 1 bombing showed the US how to react. Get real.

What's an "NL"?

Sod off, swampy!

Sharmuta
Gigantore
Radical Muslim and The Netherlands. The population is wakening up, but........

[Link: www.jcpa.org...]

Ah well, guess we'll never do enough for our big brave American friends to be happy, until we make death camps.

As Cartman says, "screw you!".

We'll do it our way.

Keeripes! I had to read the LGF post twice before I realized that she was ALIVE. I thought she'd been killed.

Dammit Charles, it is too early for this! You scared me half to death!

#113 Sage

"What's an NL?"

thank you. clueless here too

#113 DesertSage

NL= NetherLands

cheers

eon

113

It's a Kingdom, older than your country, bumpkin.

Gigantor!
Gigantor!
Gigantor!

Gigantor, the space age robot
He's at your command
Gigantor, the space age robot
his power is in your hands

He's bigger than big
Taller than tall
Quicker than quick
Stronger than strong
Ready to fight for right, against wrong

Gigantor!
Gigantor!
Gigantor!

Gigantor, the space age robot
He's at your command
Gigantor, the space age robot
his power lies in your hands

He's bigger than big
Taller than tall
Quicker than quick
Stronger than strong
Ready to fight for right, against wrong

/Dickies

Thanks eon. Once again, you are smarter than me :)

DesertSage: Nederlands in Dutch or the Netherlands in English.

It is a sad time in America when one is threatened with violence for using their first amemdment right to express an opinion.
I am further saddened by the constant harping of the printed media about how America is losing the fight for freedom worldwide. I do not see it that way and really hope that America and Americans are aware what the yellow trolls are systematically taking away.

Further, I am going to make sure that come time for voting in '08 that I am back in the US and can cast my vote for conservative, family valued candidates that support the military and do not believe in embrasing our known detractors.

Ooooo Oooooo !

I'm a bumpkin too! Don't forget me!

/ proudly showing that I am hopelessly Midwestern :)

NL= NetherLands

Netherlands?
Aren't they the ones that kicked out Ayaan Hirsi Ali in the first place?

Swedish security police "harasses Muslims"

A major crisis management training exercise taking place in Stockholm next week will contribute to further stigmatization of Muslims, according to two leading members of the Green Party.

"The security police constantly engages in harassing Muslims and actively contributes to fuelling Islamophobia," wrote Stockholm's opposition vice mayor Yvonne Ruwaida and member of parliament Mehmet Kaplan on Dagens Nyheter's opinion page.

The politicians believe that the crisis exercise which the Swedish Emergency Management Agency (Krisberedskapsmyndigheten) is starting on Wednesday will follow this pattern.

Around 4,000 people will participate in the exercise and the scenario which they will attempt to deal with is described as "a terrorist attack with weapons of mass destruction".

The terrorists in the exercise have been given the fictional name of 'Bogalanders'. They live in one of the predominantly immigrant ' Million Homes ' areas, their religion is split into two factions and they are protesting against the occupation of holy ground in 'Bogaland'.

"The parallels with Muslims and Islam are not exactly hard to find," wrote Kaplan and Ruwaida.

They want to know why the security police (Säpo) is "specifically targeting Muslims" and are proposing a parliamentary inquiry into Säpo's future operations.

In the article, which was published on Sunday, Ruwaida and Kaplan also called for a retrospective investigation into Säpo's surveillance of Muslims in Sweden.

Jihad and the Collapse of the Swedish Model

I decided to write this essay following the riots in Malmö this weekend. Malmö is Sweden's third largest city and by far the worst city in Scandinavia when it comes to Muslim aggression. I read recently that an Arab girl interviewed in Malmö said that she liked it so much there, it felt almost like an Arab city. Native Swedes have been moving away from the city for years, turned into refugees in their own country by Jihad, not too different from the non-Muslims in some regions of the Philippines, southern Thailand or Kashmir in India, or for that matter Christian Serbs in Kosovo.

Sweden was presented during the Cold War as a middle way between capitalism and Communism. When this model of a society collapses – and it will collapse, under the combined forces of Islamic Jihad, the European Union, Multiculturalism and ideological overstretch – it is thus not just the Swedish state that will collapse but the symbol of Sweden, the showcase of an entire ideological world view. I wrote two years ago that if the trend isn't stopped, the Swedish nation will simply cease to exist in any meaningful way during the first half of this century. The country that gave us Bergman, ABBA and Volvo could become known as the Bosnia of northern Europe, and the “Swedish model” will be one of warning against ideological madness, not one of admiration. I still fear I was right in that assessment.

This one.

That one.

The long arc of history. I feel real safe.

gigantor

What is your whole friggin' point? Get to it, ol' boy.

(Krisberedskapsmyndigheten)

Try fitting that on a government form.

# 122 mama winger

You are very welcome :-)

And FTR, Lizards, Gigantor is more correctly Tetsujin 28 (Iron Man # 28) in the original Japanese version.

/keeping in touch with my inner anime' freak

cheers

eon

OUCH! DesertSage = bumpkin.
Pop some corn and enjoy!

In their memory

Remembrance Day Begins Tonight

#120 gigantor

It's a Kingdom, older than your country, bumpkin.

What is your problem?
No one was ragging on Holland. You just came here with a chip on your shoulder.

#60 savage_nation
Well, have fun, kids. I gotta roll out of here before my head explodes!
Fuck, these imams torque me off to no end!

#107 observations
Savage Nation; not to create a problem, but I am letting my granddaughter read some of these posts, can you tone down the foul language a bit.

Want to hear yourself it seems. He left long ago. Me thinks that children too young for some descriptive language are maybe too young for this site, and the evils of Islam exposed here.

Uh-oh. Mandy's here.

I love LGF.

#120 gigantor

It's a Kingdom, older than your country, bumpkin.

Better to be a citizen of a young democracy than a subject of an old kingdom, Sparky...

Fjordman,

You forgot their greatest export--the likes of Peter Forsberg et al to the NHL. It'll be very sad when the day comes that Sweden is no longer represented here in North America.

The blood libel.

121

Fucking hilarious. You make laugh.

Not really.

125

I'm also a Dutch bumpkin.

You people really know how to encourage and support.

Repeat Cartman.

*quickly runs for more coffee*

#29 CloneTrooper

How does this scum get into our country and why can't we manage to send it back to the hell it came from?

Or to the Hell that awaits them.

138
Well, PisstheChrofessor, at least we still are free here.

You smug twat.

#14 troll
Saying "screw you" to Mama Winger could and should get you the stick. Maybe it's time for your medication.

Hey gigantor -

I had a crush back in 4th grade on a kid from Holland named Corey. His family went back to their homeland in 1966. Do you know him?

"Americans know the deep benevolence at the
heart of Islam." -- Condoleeza Rice

#144 gigantor

Struck a nerve, eh?

141 gigantor

Don't go fucking with my friends. I might get mad.

#120 gigantor

It's a Kingdom, older than your country, bumpkin.

Just because I thought NL meant "National League", that makes me a bumkin?

So now I know that NL means Netherlands, as in Holland.

/so who the hell are the Dutch?

Americans may be "bumpkins," but at least our society finds something wrong with euthanasia for babies and in general on demand for anyone who wants it. Holland to allow ‘baby euthanasia’

You might be a bumpkin if...

Countdown to little gigantor getting the stick..

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144 gigantor

Lemme' guess? You're really Alec Baldwin.

He said "twat".

OT: Engineer Accused of Taking Codes to Iran

PHOENIX (AP) - A former engineer at the nation's largest nuclear power plant has been charged with taking computer access codes and software to Iran and using it to download details of plant control rooms and reactors, authorities said.

...

I've been to NL. Amsterdam is unforgettable. Fun, beautiful, great art and food, nice people...

/NYC bumpkin

#152 Noam

HAHA! I've been fishing right on my street before, when the creek overflowed. Didn't catch nuthin tho, but it sure was fun :)

I think this the Sunday Night Drinking Thread for gigantor.

#146 mama winger

I had a crush back in 4th grade on a kid from Holland named Corey.

Was he an asshole, too?

#120 gigantor

It's a Kingdom, older than your country, bumpkin.

And Saudi Arabia is a "new and improved" kingdom. Dipstick.

151

So do a huge number of Dutch. We're not a monolith here. Not all of us smoke dope, most don't, most don't visit prostitutes, if you go to Amsterdam, visit the red light area, you hear English, German and French, but little Dutch.

Figure out who we are.

#144 gigantor
138
Well, PisstheChrofessor, at least we still are free here.

You smug twat.

Me thinks gigantor needs 86ing. Well soon anyways.

#160 Noam

No, he was sweet. Last name started with Van-something. But then again I think they are all Van-somethings.

#149 MandyManners

Don't go fucking with my friends. I might get mad.

And when Mandy gets mad, the manners go out the window.

gigantor

#159 Muadib

ding, ding, ding.....

I suppose it's ok to call for the execution of a black female Muslim apostate and not face any criticism from the MSM since he didn't call her a "nappy-headed ho of an infidel."

# 127 Fjordman
# 138 christheprofessor

Hate to disagree, but this is Sweden's greatest contribution to Western civilization

The Saab J-35 Draken

Right up there with the F-8 Crusader in the "Fighters You Don't Want To F**k With" Hall of Fame.

cheers

eon

Gigantor. You are more stupid than I am.

#162 gigantor

Figure out who we are.

Sorta like you've figured out that we're all a buncha bumpkins and twats?

“She has been identified as one who has defamed the faith. If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death,”

That, folks, is what's called a "terroristic threat." This bastard needs to be led away by the FBI in silver bracelets. TODAY. As a "religious" orator this guy is a menace to decent society and should be locked away in a cell (eating ham sandwiches).

#111 resize

She has given up on Islam. She's an apostate. That's why this ElBayly fellow says she should be killed.

Oh God I fear for the future of this country. Unless there is a big surprise, a Democrat will win the presidential election of 2008. I used to think that was a good thing. But that was back in high school. Now I'm all the more wiser and it's too late to do anything. Ayaan Hirsi Ali may be an atheist but she better pray that nothing happens to her. Because certain people will let her down.

#144 gigantor

Well, PisstheChrofessor, at least we still are free here.

Show me your firearm.

#82 mickthemick

"The Prophet Mohammed was a peacemaker and a role model for humanity," she said. "My understanding is that he was a peaceful person who believed that religion was a choice. He tried to teach people and bring them into it, not punish them."

No, you only got punished if you checked it out and decided that Islam was not for you.

I'm trying to imagine a world-wide religion developing from a personality cult of say, Edward Teach, and frankly, I can't see anything different from what we have now...

I have been reading all of the posting to my wife, we both have been having a good laugh. Then out of the blue my quiet, mild mannered wife blurts out "Boy, Europe is really taking it in the ass."

I just now stopped and got my laughter under control. But I would guess that she is correct.

172

No, PC, I said -you- were a twat.

Quite a difference, eh?

166 E2m

Fucking-A.

“She has been identified as one who has defamed the faith. If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death,”

By that logic I have identified the following people who have defamed the Christian faith:

Rosie O'Donnell
Bill Maher
the piss Christ guy
the chocolate Christ guy
the elephant dung Mary
Gene Robinson (his ARROGANCE is so unChrist-like)

Should they receive the same declaration? NO. And then this imam says he has MERCY? The logic eludes me.

175

Actually, we do own arms here. And Belgium is even more liberal in their firearms laws.

What have you been reading?

178 littledick

And, you're an asshole.

Now, why don't you go stick your finger in a dyke.

#55 Drained Brain

Etta Albright, a member of the Altoona chapter of the national Peace Alliance, said she was "saddened" by what she called the negative impact and threat Hirsi Ali's appearance presented to the Islamic community.

"I sympathize with the Muslim community's concerns on what kind of inflammatory impact this could have on the community," she said.

That is why I'm always sceptical of anything with the word 'peace' in it. These days, 'peace' means appeasement of those whose manifest destiny is to destroy our civilization and enslave us. And that means the end of Western civilization itself if the 'peaceniks' get their way

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”

Since 911 we ALL undertand it perfectly.

Gigantor

FrontPageMag

Esman: Holland has been guilty for decades of a deadly silence, beginning with its pretense of ignorance about the death camps (in fact, it was recently confirmed that the Dutch were well aware of where the Jews were going).

Now the silence takes the form of a virtual exclusion of Judaism from its culture. Every Dutch child knows what Ramadan is. In the schools, even the Muslim children dye Easter eggs and are taught about the Second Coming of Jesus. But these are people who think of Pesach as "Jewish Easter," and have no clue what it means. Their Easter breakfasts include matzoh, bagels, eggs and bacon. They've never heard of Chaunkah. Why? For many Dutch children, a Jew is someone who lives in Israel and is at war with the Palestinians. That's all.

And for Muslim children, that last part is the most important definition of "Jew." It makes Jews the enemy. And so some even threaten teachers who attempt to give lessons on the Holocaust. Shocking as that is, I think the Dutch feed the problem by not educating their children - Dutch-Christian or Dutch-Muslim -- what Judaism is, who Jews are. They simply pretend we don't exist.

Bah. Not worth the bandwidth.

171

Now, that's a stretch.

"And yo mamma's a ho, too!"

Nether Lands. sounds kind of murky and mucky.

My ancestors were Dutch. What's sad is that I'm not exactly proud to call myself "dutch" these days. However, I am proud to call myself "American". Lucky, too.

May we send Hillary and the democrat party over to the Netherlands? You socialists can have our political trash.

The thread was good while it lasted. I guess all things come to their end, eventually. Here's hoping for a new thread that won't be gigantored.

186

Oh, for F*ck's sake, I'm a Jew in Holland, and everyone I work with and live around knows it.

Hello! I AM A DUTCH JEW!

You guys give me cramps from laughing.

gigantor, what have you been drinking?

"And yo mamma's a ho, too!"

Oh. Okay. At first I thought he was trying to make some kind of point of contrast between the Netherlands and the United States. Now I see he's just a stupid kid bored with TV and looking to make trouble.

All done then with this one.

#191 gigantor

Oh I thought you were talking about Holland, not you personally.

In fact yes you were talking about Holland, not you personally.

#175 Earth2moonbat

#144 gigantor

Well, PisstheChrofessor, at least we still are free here.

Show me your firearm.

Here's mine.

191

Big fucking deal.

Wow, this thread degenerated in a hurry! I'd stay clear of Mandy's feet there Gigantor, I heard she kicks!

#147 Clio

I guess Condi hasn't read the part in the Koran where Mo refers to black people as pug-nosed slaves and raisinheads.

#170 eon

See, I would have gone with this Swedish export...

I thought you were a Dutch bumpkin?

By the time the great "progressives" in this country pass laws that protect Americans and all from HATE speech, words that incite hate or riots, Ali will be guilty not only in Sharia law, but by US statues as well.

Once laws of this ilk are passed by well meaning but totally ignorant individuals, the Islamists will insist upon prosecution of Ali as an immigrant whose sole purpose is to incite the public against the ROP by lies.

It will be the ROP's that persecute through the legal prosecution of the law. Coming to a legislature near to you.....soon.

I do like tulips though.

#191

You guys give me cramps from laughing.

You sure it's not just that time of the month?

How about TERRORISM? Is there a punishment for that among the Muslims!? Yeah, didn't think so. Barbaric pre-medieval fools!

#203 ctp

Careful, Chris. It will call you the T-word again.

#183 savage

Heh.... Good one!

#185 new2thezoo

“It’s a very merciful religion if you try to understand it.”

Since 911 we ALL undertand it perfectly.

If only we ALL understood it perfectly. There are far too many useful idiot buffoons out there - amongst them our leaders - who, unbelievably, still maintain that it is a religion of peace after 911, Bali, Beslan, Luxor, London, Madrid, Mumbai, Southern Thailand, the Philippines, 59 years of waging constant war against Israel and 1,400 years of constant warring with the entire infidel world - murdering over 270 million infidels in the process. Throw in probably another 100 or 150 million of their fellow Muslims, and you have on your hands far and away the vilest and most bloodthirsty cult that has ever existed in the history of mankind. Everything else that exists or has ever existed before are mere novices in the murderlust stakes compared with Islam.

It's sad.

The one country that's actually trying to do something, and you clowns crap all over our efforts.

Hirsi Ali? She left of her own accord. Most of us wanted her to stay. We're the ones with the Pim Fortujns, the Geert Wilders, the Iron Ritas.

You have George Bush, constantly saying islam is a religion of peace.

#202 mama winger

I like Vermeer.

#181 gigantor

Actually, we do own arms here.

Squirtguns don't count.

Wow - I thought Islam was barbaric.

I was wrong. There are actually some critics that Islamists won't murder.

What a merciful faith.

ps. does the free pass for the mentally unbalanced extend to muslim clerics?

#205 mama

Dammit, get it right! I'm PisstheChrofessor, Smut Twat!

#202 mama winger

I do like tulips though.

We got lots of tulips in the Skagit valley. Holland has nothing on Skagit.

#212 what you said

Sorry - I just can't seem to get anything right. I'm such a bumpkin.

#208 said: Hirsi Ali? She left of her own accord. Most of us wanted her to stay.
Wasn't she evicted from her apartment by those afraid of mo's folks? If most of you wanted her to stay then why did she leave in fear of her life?

#181 gigantor

And Belgium is even more liberal in their firearms laws.

What have you been reading?

Actually, I live in Belgium and this is mistaken. Their firearm laws were liberal up until the last decade or so. I inquired as to how I might go about obtaining a license and the process was ridiculous. They conduct a complete backround check that could take an indefinate amount of time, I would have to be certified in gun use, and as far as I could understand I would not be permitted to have it concealed. That's close to a ban and is much worse than most US states.

#209 luzbone

I lOVE Vermeer - he was my first favorite artist, although I have since moved on to Michelangelo.

#202 mama winger, hey on a lighter note, what kind of tulips do you like. i've got some lovely varieties planted and am trying too keep the deer out. tulips are a delightful export from h0lland. ( i am looking up at the pretty blue sky and being thankfuli live in the united states of america this morning).

Speaking of tulips.

It's a beautiful day in Minnesota, and I've got yard work to do.

Gigantor

Holland's Iraq pull out

Holland's Deadly Tolerance

How Dutch tolerance has boomeranged

The phenomenon of exaggerated, irresponsible Dutch tolerance has manifested itself most clearly on the soccer field. "Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas" is probably the only new Dutch expression to become internationally known in the last decade.

Over the years hundreds of thousands of Dutchmen have heard this standard anti-Semitic slogan sung or shouted. It was already being chanted in football stadiums in the mid-Nineties.

The Dutch authorities failed to act, and so this and other anti-Semitic hate songs spread to society at large, and even across the border to Arabs in Flanders.

After years of Dutch inaction non-Jews are now also being targeted by these hate slogans.

Gigantor - Huge jet-propelled robot on the Japanese sci-fi cartoon GIGANTOR/SYN/1966. Set in the year A.D. 2000, Gigantor was the world's mightiest robot originally designed for warfare but whose powers were later harnessed for peace. It was remotely controlled by a twelve-year-old boy named Jimmy Sparks. Gigantor's theme song describes its mission: "Gigantor the space-age robot, he's at your command...Bigger than big. Taller than tall, quicker that quick. Stronger that strong. Ready to fight for right...against wrong." A full color update THE NEW ADVENTURES OF GIGANTOR debuted on the Sci-Fi Channel in 1993. The TCJ Production/TransLux series was based on the comic strip Tetsujin 28gO (translated: Iron Man No. 28) created by Mitsuteru Yokoyama. See also - "Johnny Sokko's Flying Robot"

Hey, Gigantor! How does it feel to be controlled by a 12-year old boy? Have you met Michael Jackson?

217

Here in the Netherlands, anyone can own a firearm. I live in the country, and rifles, etc, can be purchased. If you want a handgun, yes, you undergo a background check by your local police department, and you need to be a member of a gun club, but it's not a long process.

How different is that from the US background checks?

I could well be mistaken about the law in Belgium. It's known as a problem that Dutch people simply cross the border and buy there to avoid our laws.

#219 nycredneck

I like the pastel shades mostly, especially the double ones or ruffled ones. I am a HUGE flower fan, and here in Wisconsin I just about die waiting for the first signs of spring. So I plant the earliest varieties I can find.

209 luzbone & 202 Mama

Vermeer is pure genius. &, if only tulips would bloom all summer.... ah, bliss.

Wow, someone really needs a hug over there in Holland...............

Gigantor

Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas.

#227 gigantor

Seriously - what is your problem? Besides the whole ass-hole thing you've got going on?

#227 gigantor

I think you just earned a smack upside the head with the Banning Stick. Been fun!

Ok - I'm off to look for Stinky Beaumont ......

Hey gigantor, go take your frustrations out on the KozMoNuts. We're the good guys. Don't get yourself flushed.

#226 FrogMarch

Kiss the joy as it flies.

Buh-bye !

So sad too bad

I'm glad

Thanks, Charles....

It be gone.....

#227
User Blocked. I thought I heard a "thwack".
Off to do yardwork. Beautiful here in NE Illinois.

Abu Bin Squid -

Hey - we're practically neighbors!

#186 luzbone

Don't forget Corrie ten Boom! :)

#237 savage_nation

Better it should be a goat. Or a tomato. Or a cucumber (not that there is anything wrong with that.)

gigantor gets nothing but dial tone now...

Alright - time to get the garden pots out and think about flowers. bbl

#241 Mama W
I'm aware. That's why I told the banned troll to knock-off the rude comments toward you. I look out for my neighbors!
Later.

Did I miss something up-thread? I didn't see anybody put down NL (as he calls it) and yet he came in here and started in on us in #83...

#224 gigantor

I could well be mistaken about the law in Belgium. It's known as a problem that Dutch people simply cross the border and buy there to avoid our laws.

Belgian companies, mainly in Liege, produce a lot of guns still and they sell them to everyone, including our Islamic enemies. They may sell them to EU member citizens without problems, but with the latest gun laws, I even doubt that.

The important question is: can one obtain a permit to carry in Belgium or Holland? You want this because if you have defend yourself or if some cop stops you, you have to have the permit or face heavy penalties. I found it nearly impossible to get one of these. That is not at all the case in most US states. Belgium and Holland, to my understanding, basically follow the EU's mandates on gun control.

#242 Ma Sands

I don't. I just wanted to put some weight on the other side of his scale.

I sent you an email.

mama winger

Are you still here? I need you, dear!

Thanks...

ElBayly's idea of shuffing Hirsi Ali is no different from the Hofstede Group ....They are the ones responsible for the death of Theo vanGogh , and were planning to murder Hirsi Ali also ....

One reason she took the jump to the United States , because her life in Holland was in imminent danger from these Islamonazis ......It began with threats just like this one

It's incredible that this asshat ElBayly will most likely not be arrested for posing a threat to her life ... and imposing a death threat

America wake up , You're losing it !

#171 gigantor: If the world needs an example of how a European nation deals properly and forcefully with Islam, it looks to the Kingdom of Denmark, which is the oldest in Europe.

#225 mama winger, how abt. those big pretty verigated parrot tulips? i don't like the really dark ones either. too lost against the dk ground. i'm crazy abt. hiacynths and the crocus are really an early season delight. do you have any primroses? they would do well in your neck of the woods. my zone way up state is only 4 so i';m restricted in what i can plant.

#246 savage_nation

So you are asexual with regards to fruits and vegetables.

You said nothing about the goat. So I find that a bit disturbing.

Eh, the guy's banned? Well, anyway, what he said about the Belgian gun laws being liberal is not true -- because I started the process. (figured I might try to pick up a nice Belgian pistol).

Went off like someone called him "kutje bef" or something.

All ad hominem sweeping statements, no facts, no logic.

in other words troll...

registered since '04 though.

Did anyone else find this whole episode incredibly weird? A (self-proclaimed) Dutch Jew who hates the islamic invasion of his country, who you would think would be on our collective infidel Western civilization's side, decides to post on a Hirsi Ali thread, and proceeds to unload a massive pile of manure on us, gloating that his nation will be saved but ours will be lost, and generally acting like a complete jackass? Why?

And his English was good, he could have been a valuable member. I mean, he registered back in June of 2004.

I'm genuinely sorry gigantor turned out to be a troll. I was hoping for a bit of good news from the Netherlands.
*sigh*

For gun enthusiasts (and I'm not one yet, really), check out the Belgian Five-seveN: [Link: world.guns.ru...]

#257 Thanos
What does "kutje bef" mean?
Sunday morning Dutch lesson...

#258 savage_nation

You will grow out of the goat thing. Everybody experiments with goats when they are young.

#250 luzbone

Thanks. Though it didn't arrive yet....

Gotta go help the kitchen ladies prepare for a wedding shower for a sweet couple for tonight....BBL :)

#259 Tasty Beverage

It was weird. And sad. I'll bet he was drunk and regrets it in the morning.

#260 Mezzetino

Me, too.

Perhaps it'll be a temporary time-out for that one over-the-top comment... That said, he did come in today talking trash and insulting from his first post. Maybe he was having a bad evening...

gigantor was really way tooooooo defensive. very odd.

some people get that way when they've been hitting the bottle and then some people just get FRIENDLY AND HAPPY.

If this turns into another pointless personal bickering session, I will shut the whole thread down.

#262 It's Belgian slang for what he called someone else here.

It would be frustrating to live in NL and see what's been going on, i.e. tolerating the intolerable, all under the banner of multi-culturalism.

I too think it might have been the advocaat talking.

#259 Tasty Beverage

Well I agree that the US is in trouble but I don't know that Holland is any better.

Some of the biggest and best moonbats are born and bred in America.

My guess is that is about 20 yrs. old, smart, sick of hearing about how America is leading the war on terror. Probably had a bad date last night or whatever and went a little too far. He wasn't entirely off topic. But the rhetoric was oppositional from the start.

If he is much older than 20 I worry for him.

#269 nyc redneck

Yes, I know what you mean. I generally get happy but I do on occasion morph into sphincter-like personality mode...

The whole episode was weirod...

#270 Charles

Okay, back on topic.

Is it against the law to suggest that someone ought to be killed, only in a country other than your own, the way this "imam" suggested? Or is it allowable because technically it's not a direct threat? I'm thinking the latter.

#268 savage_nation

My sense of humour is too warped I guess.

I didn't mean anything. I was having fun in the other thread about the goat marriage.

Netherlands, you mean the country that sent Anne Frank to Auschwitz?

#245 mama winger

I have to run, too.

(Sniffle)

(Seriously, my sinuses are giving me h**l today.)

Later, Lizards.

cheers

eon

#275 Tasty Beverage

Is it against the law to suggest that someone ought to be killed, only in a country other than your own, the way this "imam" suggested? Or is it allowable because technically it's not a direct threat? I'm thinking the latter.

I think the latter, also.

I am gone.

From now one MUSLIMS will be called

THE DECEIVED ONE's.

The False Prophet will deceive a great multitude (1.2 billion muslims)...........

Muslims are the true unbelievers..............Or are they The Abomination of Desolation. Everytime I read or see a video about one of these islamic scholars preaching about killing some human being, what pops into my head is this:

A False Prophet will deceive a great multitude...........I hope some muslim is reading this a starts questioning their beliefs? They should be saying to themselves "Something's just not right about islam."

Muslim............trying reading the Christian bible and see how different it is from your Koran and Haddith. Kind of like Good vs. Evil. (try to guess which one is the evil)

Our God never said it was ok for Jesus to marry and 6 year old and screw her when she is 9 years-old. But your God, who you call allah, did say to your prophet that it was ok for him to have and consumate his marriage with a 9 year-old child. Just look at a 9 year old and tell me if you believe this is something GOD would condone.

I rest my case.

I will write my congressman to have this iman investigated for advocating murder on US soil.

#275 Tasty Beverage: I think this is a tactic of the future for these imams, whereby they don't deliberately come out calling for a death sentence on someone, but they know and their followers and anyone who knows about Islam, know full well it is intended as an 'encouragement', as if there were a fatwa on the person involved.

Does any legal Lizard know if there are grounds for challenging such thinly-veiled murder threats (sorry for the pun, no humor intended)?

This is yet another manner in which sharia, as a parallel legal system is being brought in and this is also why I believe there should be a serious legal challenge to Islam in the courts in order to open a debate about reclassifying it as an ideology, removing its charity status and urging proscription. (His implied threat is a form of jihad, technically, and also an indirect attack on freedom of speech and religion. Pity she's not yet a citizen.)