the truth?

What "truth" would that be exactly?

If the Dems think we have lost then let them, send a bill claiming that up.

If the Dems think that the U.S. should just get out of Iraq now, then let them cut the funding!

They are cowards, they should inform the U.S. that they want to surrender. Imbrace their opinion...stop trying to blow smoke up our...

"It's the will of one nation versus the stubbornness of one man."

Umm, No.
It's the U.S. Constitution, stupid.

"stuck on stupid" comes to mind

Kos is a curse on humankind.

Kos is mentally ill. 'nuff said.

Great OT:

Surprising Study Reveals Muslim Communities Long to Be Acknowledged As Part of Mainstream America

Supposedly, this ad group did a survey of [bigoted word]s - now for the funny part and no I'm not making this up...

Muslims are not necessarily looking for marketers to provide any
specially targeted products, although Islam does require specific food and
packaged goods (halal), clothing (modest) and financial transactions
(shariah- compliant).

Any question as to the goals of the [bigoted word] community?

Thank God for that Veto.

Who vetoed the truth?
I don't get it.

Markos is the most significant insignifcant person on the net.

The man who claims to have a monopoly on the truth usually knows he's lying.

Meltdown on Digg.com over posting AACS decryption codes and mass user banning. Digg is falling apart.

The Dems' strategy is really so transparent... they acually do realize that a date certain to withdraw would say to the evildoers ' Good News! ..sit tight, you may resume the carnage and chaos on ___ when we leave'.
Then, just in time for the '08's, they present the American voter with a Giant Failure, 'Nam Redux... and they take over by default.
Politically, it might work for them, but only if the majority of voters are completely lacking any moral center.

Kos? You can't handle the truth!

The Kos, and truth are 100% incompatible.

One nulifies the other.

Forgive me for clicking on the Kos link but it took me to a video which seems to be a poor facsimile of the kind of stuff I've produced about Pelosi and Reid. I guess the Demon-crats are so hard up they are pulling ideas from TheFifthColumnReport at youtube.

Truth and kos kiddies are mutually exclusive and are as far apart as noon is to midnight.

How not to run a range safety course.

Cut off the funding!

That's all the Democrats have to do, cut off the funding...period!

Quit blaming Bush.
Quit saying that it's one mans will against the whole country.

If they really believe that the whole country is behind them, then they should just cut off the funding!

Of course, the Democrats are a bunch of little sissies that would never take responsibility for the aftermath of a defeat, so they'll never cut off the funding.

#6 Bubbaman

Muslims are free to pursue their jihad-compliant, mysoginistic, oppressive, narcissistic, self-serving, evil practices anywhere on the globe... but not in my United States.

I'll refer them to Stuck Mojo: [Link: www.stuckmojomedia.com...]

Most Kos kids are spoiled little dilletantes who never worked a day in their lives.

Who can find the most recent poll numbers on the Withdrawal from Iraq? This veto may end up being unpopular but it was set in stone quite some time ago and that's the truth.
I really hate to see these political games played over nonsense non-binding political posturing when our soldiers are fighting and dying. It's a disgusting display.

#19 DesertSage

You said it better than I would have! Language and all ;)

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Kos on Truth? No thanks.

How about Kos on a pike?

Hmmm...

Fair use of AIDA, on an otherwise unfocused message.

Blah, blah, blah, call a phone number tell Bush blah, blah, blah. This accomplishes... what?

Kos, time to hire a new ad agency.

#20 Tang

My point exactly. Some ad-execs are targeting this demographic and calling them "mainstream". Meanwhile, the [bigoted word]s openly indicate that they want us living under Sharia or afforded special accomodations that no group has ever received in the U.S. This is just unbelievable!

My comment on this?

/Ahhh, nevermind,,,maybe later.

The truth ? Kos cant handle the truth !

There are more than two types of people in this world, but for Kos' trolls I'll try to make this simple: There are people who recognize the existential threat posed by radical Islam and people who don't. You trolls and your 'rat/MSM cohort are in the latter group.

By the way, when the 'rat party was in the minority in the Senate they used cloture as a way of circumventing the will of the people. Bush won 2004 by 3,000,000 popular votes and a mostly undisputed electoral majority. Failing to allow the American people to have a voice a voice in the Senate, the 'rat party stood in the way of what the people wanted, again.

Thanks Charles for opening up registration at such a weird time.

Why Is Jim McDermott Still in Congress?

Anyone catch Fred Thompson on H&C tonight? Brilliant interview. Will have the whole thing up on youtube tomorrow.

OT MUSLIM radicals have established their own draconian court systems in Britain

Taxpayer Funded Sharia court set up in Britain !

Our investigation has found that the Sharia court system has been set up in the heart of Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, and that it is a model for others across the country which are operating outside the British legal process.

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Non-Muslims are excluded from the secretive court which is registered as a charity to receive British tax benefits

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They keep repeating the same things, and they fail, as always, to recognize that (pace all the waily, waily, we're doomed types here) Bush is right, as much as I despair of his inability to catch our imaginations and our hearts with oratory.

But heck, Tony Blair can speak, brilliantly, and he's been dragging his country along - and it's clearly killing him.

The problem being, Kos is probably happy about that.

All Kos wants, it seems, is for us to lose. And for jihad to follow us home. I'm not of the same mind, thank you so very much.

By the way, the Stuck Mojo crew has asked to pass on their thanks to Charles and the Lizard Nation for their support.

#32 JammieWearingFool

Why Is Jim McDermott Still in Congress?

Because Seattle is full of moonbats. And moonbats are evil.

Weird, watching this special on Mormonism. Episode starts out claiming they were treated akin to Muslim Terrorists today. They had a religion that was hostile to the US.

Hmmm.

And to remain practicing in the US, they changed the religion and accomodated the US and fears of the citizenry.

Can we ask the same for Islam today?

E2M,

Well, you do have a point there.

#35 Dianna

Actually, Senator Thompson addressed those very points in his interview tonight. Although I'm paraphrasing him, he said that we won the cold war with the combined efforts of the Demoncrats and Republicans working together whereas today the D's want us to lose. He was just incredulous about this situation and articulated the matter quite eloquently.

#33 Bubbaman

Anyone catch Fred Thompson on H&C tonight? Brilliant interview. Will have the whole thing up on youtube tomorrow.

Yes. He definitely, "gets it." I don't know why, but whenever I listen to him speak, I can close my eyes and see the Duke. Wierod, I know.

#36 Tangonine

By the way, the Stuck Mojo crew has asked to pass on their thanks to Charles and the Lizard Nation for their support.

Speaking for myself, tell Stuck Mojo that the pleasure is all mine, and I am anxiously awaiting a follow up to the "Southern Born Killers" CD.

Early am meeting - goodnight Lizards!

Please forgive me for being non-committal here. Not that I don’t oppose the lunatic left at every turn, but this is just another re-hashing of old, tired and worn out "thrutherism". I guess it needs to be recycled, for posterity's sake, but...

#32 JamieWearingFool

Why Is Jim McDermott Still in Congress?

Because the laws and rules are different for the Democrats.

Anyone(not JWF)who can't see this, is already deceived.

Dims make the mistake of thinking that because Sane People don`t like War Therefor America wants the War to End. This is True. Sane People do want peace. But Sane People also realize it is useless to try to Pet a Mad dog.When Someone is Hellbent on Killing You. Ignoring them will only get You Killed. Most Americans Want The War to Continue for that reason alone. You Can`t Negotiate with Terrorist or Evil of any kind. You Must Destroy Evil.
Never Leave an Enemy Behind, Because He will rise again to strike at You from the rear. Thats Why We are in this Mess. Because We left many Enemies Behind many times over the last Fifty Years.

One wonders though, if PBS could get away with a show on Islam that treated it as harshly and critically as this special on Mormonism.

I highly doubt it...

#31 get2djnow

Welcome!

DesertSage #19

The other night Obama gleefully declared, "We are just 16 votes short of ending this war."

Mr. Obama, you and Kos are now 0 votes short.

All you have to do is nothing. No bill, no funds, no more war.

No need to give Bush a bill to veto. Just don't do anything and it is over.

Got the guts, "Barry"?

republic,

The guy should have been in prison many years ago.

It really is sickening, this double standard.

OK, checking out.

Goodnight all.

Man, my home is gettin' pelted with quarter sized hail! Catch ya in the rebound...

Well... Quick search on youtube shows PBS did air CAIR propoganda.

WTH!?

They flay Isaac Newton and Mormonism in one evening but don't have the balls to criticize Islam.

What a shame.

#36 Tangonine

By the way, the Stuck Mojo crew has asked to pass on their thanks to Charles and the Lizard Nation for their support.

Do you know them?

The man who saw his fellow US citizens burned alive, torn apart by a mob, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah, and responded by writing “Screw Them,”

This "Screw Them" Kos is a messenger of hatred.

#51 JammieWearingFool

republic,

The guy should have been in prison many years ago.

It really is sickening, this double standard.

OK, checking out.

Goodnight all.

He's on a long list of other Democrats, Murtha, Feinstein, etc.

The only difference between Duke Cunningham and Dianne Feinstein, is she is a Democrat and he is a Republican, and he is in prison, and she won't even be further investigated for her and her husbands $1.5 billion worth of war funded contracts which she may have steered to him and his company, and then sold in 2005.

Feinstein and her husband pocketed over $44 million from those contracts.

# 50
I heard Obama Yo Mama converted from Islam to Christianity. Does He know that the people He constantly defends are obligated to put Him to Death. You can`t ever leave Islam. not alive anyway. Ever. Makes Me wonder about that Guy. Can anyone Say ... Sleeper.
There is something about Him that gives Me a Very Bad Vibe. all the unpaid tickets, the smoking issue, these things prove He gets away with whatever He Can. until He is Caught. This Clearly establishes a pattern of Deceit on His part. If He deceives America on Little things. He will deceive Us on large ones too.

"It's the will of one nation versus the stubbornness of one man."

If it wasn't for his stubbornness there would be one more dictator in the world, a dictator that was was tried, convicted, sentenced and executed by those who would still be suffering under him.

"It's the will of one nation versus the stubbornness of one man."

I hate to admit it, but a lot of simple minded people are going to buy that line. It's catchy and requires no thinking.

#40 Bubbaman

You and my Male of the Species like Fred. I'm not sure I believe him. I'd like to, but there's this part of me that can't forget that he's directly responsible for the S&L problem - he wrote what became the legislation.

I do not forget, and I do not forgive.

Sound financial markets matter, too.

#31 get2djnow
Welcome!

NBC cameraman flies Mexican flag at march
Videographer for Houston affiliate sparks angry response from locals

[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

Who said this?

When I see the worsening degeneracy in our politicians, our media, our educators, and our intelligentsia, I can’t help wondering if the day may yet come when the only thing that can save this country is a military coup.

President Bush lacks the communication skills to execute this war and play the media like the fiddle it needs to be played. In Reagan's hands this war would have already reached its logical conclusion with Tehran and Damascus toppled and Saudi Arabia facing the might of a nation set on fire to rid the world of an ideology that has exceeded its time on this planet.

If 1400 years from now a religion is sprung up around Hitler and he is revered as a prophet what would be worthy of the inhabitants of this planet to do?

Would it not be in the best interest of the inhabitants to criticize the man who is responsible for such religion? Criticize the texts and practices? Would it not be in the best interest of the citizenry to call for reform in such a religion or abandonment altogether?

how's this for truth:

"Tilman was stabbed 156 times, Necati 99 times and Ugur’s stabs were too numerous to count. They were disemboweled, and their intestines sliced up in front of their eyes. They were emasculated and watched as those body parts were destroyed. Fingers were chopped off, their noses and mouths and anuses were sliced open. Possibly the worst part was watching as their brothers were likewise tortured. Finally, their throats were sliced from ear to ear, heads practically decapitated."

Faith Under Fire

Kos is a high-functioning autistic with an impressive vocabulary and an adolescent mind. His stream-of-thought ideology and uncommon disrespect for his people are making him more irrelevant with each day. Also, his book was less popular than AIDS.

P.S. RIP Eliot Stein...

#38 Earthwirm

You're asking, essentially, if American Islam can diverge from (say) Saudi Islam.

I think the answer is no.

Latter Day saints started as a relatively small group, and didn't have thousands of years of history and tradition, and a hundreds of millions of adherents outside the USA when it started.

"It is the will of the nation verses one man."
Excuse Me... it is verses Two Men. ( I am on Georges side.)

#54 sadm

I agree with your last paragraph - but domestic policy is only marginally the President's job; P. J. O'Rourke once likened the President's power to that of a toddler. I do not disagree with that assessment.

I do, however, disagree with the number of our fellow lizards who insist on interpreting every utterance of the administration as evidence of dhimmitude and doom.

'tis time to retire and dream of Wolosso.
G'nite, y'all

Reid is fond of the Iraq study group.

Troop surge... Was Recommended.

Here's some truth -

The Dems have bewhored themselves to the likes of Kos and $$oros. They fear the Soros financial manipulation and the battering they get on kos and moveon.

The Dems parrot the Kos/Soros line or else.
And the Parrots in Charge are Reid and Pelosi.

#66 The Boodge

how's this for truth:

"Tilman was stabbed 156 times, Necati 99 times and Ugur’s stabs were too numerous to count. They were disemboweled, and their intestines sliced up in front of their eyes. They were emasculated and watched as those body parts were destroyed. Fingers were chopped off, their noses and mouths and anuses were sliced open. Possibly the worst part was watching as their brothers were likewise tortured. Finally, their throats were sliced from ear to ear, heads practically decapitated."

Faith Under Fire

Kos would write a "Screw Em" story about them also.

Kos agree's with what these barbarians vermin slime do.

Kos - now with 40% more truthiness, and 100% more who gives a fvck.

# 71 Song.
You are right of course. I have No facts to back Me on this. I heard a rumour, I think on Hannity & Bones. But once again I just ramble using Gut instinct. But I do stand By My Instincts.
The Guy gives Me BAD VIBES.

#72 Killgore Trout

'tis time to retire and dream of Wolosso.
G'nite, y'all

Good night K Trout, and may you fight a 40 lb trout, before landing it, in your dreams.

I hope that you catch one in real time also, but, since your heading to the rack.

:D

The motive of the Left is to pander for votes to capture the Congress and White House --the danger is geopolitics and homeland security are expendable to win the majority needed--the next six months will see another military confligration ivolving Israel against multi Islamist factions --the U.S. will have no choice but participate in full force--the Republicans will be guaranteed re-election in a situation of war--the leadership in Iran, Syria Hisbullah and Hamas will be threatened with extinction--the capitulating Dhimmocrats will be caught not knowing whether to suck or blow!

64 solomonpanting

Thomas Sowell

Its more about their lack of will than it is about their will.

They have no will. They don't know what they want, just what they don't want. I think the word is Contrarian.

Just more proof that they don't want us to win. They are rooting for the US to fail.

#71 song_and_dance_man

I so want to write many things that are churning right now, but will abstain since I'm certain it would be a thread closer.

I know the feeling my friend.

Bottom line,

Keep The Faith

I finally got past the anger and finished my post, a pathetic attempt to warn folks of the real outcomes of us leaving anytime soon.

#58 Kaos Hiker

He does not strike me as trustworthy, and has said things which give me pause, beyond his politics.

I have thought much the same as you about him.

talky, talky talky, no nothing, talky talky talky...blah blah blah.

#81 squarepeg

Give this Lizard a cigar.

How much do we REALLY know about Markos Moulitsas?

In the interview about "Screw Em" , Moulitsas states:

I served during the first Gulf war and people are making a choice between private armies and mercenaries.

When you read that, you kind of picture him walking next to a tank in Northern Kuwait, yes?

Here's where Markos Moulitsas actually was at that time (from Wikipedia):

His family moved back to the United States in 1980 due to the Salvadoran civil war. He served in the U.S. Army from 1989 through 1992; while stationed in Germany, and after missing "by a hair" deployment to the Gulf War, he changed his political affiliation from Republican to Democrat

I think Markos Moulitsas deserves a finer look under a microscope.

Despicable.

#86 Thanos

Great post, been trying to get this across to the moonbats I have to deal with. Will guide them to your site for some edumacation!

Thanks, Good job!

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#85 sadm

It's in A Parliament of Whores, which is a very, very good book.

I'm really tired, so I can't formulate the argument the way I'd like; but essentially, O'Rourke sensibly notes that presidents (the most powerful men in the world - yeah, right) are essentially only able to propose - the people and congress (guided, heaven help us, by polls), disposes.

O'Rourke, in words I consider immortal, compares the President's power to a toddler during toilet training: Do we want that capital gains tax reduction? No, no, no! Put that dirty capital gains tax deduction down! Oh, what a good president! I howled. But, sadly, it's true.

Incidentally, he also compared the State Department to a miniature schnauzer. Dr. Rice never wanted to involve herself in politics, so...draw your own conclusions.

I do not believe, unlike many here, that Dr. Rice is some sort of dhimmi, or has sold out. Your mileage may vary.

I have been hoping that when the Pres vetoed the legislation, he finished it off with only one comment...mission accomplished!

Might as well take advantage of the anniversary in some positive way!

90 ornery elephant

Markos is a slimey bastard.

Ha. Chunks from two different news stories out of Iran I stumbled across today. Jeesh, the Mullahs need a better Minister of Information. Anyone know where Baghdad Bob is?

Iranian VP underlines need to expand tourism industry.

Vice President and Head of Iran's Cultural Heritage, Handicrafts and Tourism Organization (ICHHTO) Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei said on Monday that tourism is the cultural and economic necessity of the system of the Islamic Republic.

Speaking at a tourism workshop in Qazvin province, he added that the expansion of international communications in tourism sector is crucial for the country.

Tourists not exempt in Iran dress crackdown: police

Iran on Monday warned tourists and other foreigners visiting the country to obey its Islamic dress code in line with a nationwide crackdown against slack dressing, the ISNA news agency reported.

"We have asked travel agencies to warn tourists and to explain the laws of this country," said Tehran's deputy chief of police, Hossein Sajedi-Nia.

93 Dianna

Agreed, but sometimes statesmen transcend the power of their position...

#90 ornery elephant

Eventually, Kos' own hypocrisy will catch up with him.

Case in point: he owns a house in Berkeley. Go to a real estate website, look at prices, and figure what he has to be making to afford that; then talk to me about his "social" positions.

I own a brand new house in San Jose. I know, perfectly well, what it takes to do that. The difference is, I believe that there is no such thing as a free lunch.

Eventually, it's going to dawn on his supporters that he's lying - one rule for him, and another for them.

#90 ornery elephant

Thanks for clearing that up. Had this thought for a minute he may have been in my DIV. Thank God for "by a hair"

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Kos+truth=oxymoron.

#92 Thanks, I appreciate it friend, it's hard to write this stuff without the pure anger just killing the argument.

95 MandyManners

Agreed.

I think it's time to find to find some "slimey" skeletons in that closet.

(ornery evil grin)

I know this has been done before but:

K = Kids
o = Of
S = Satan

#98 Dianna
#99 ISG(ret)

thanks.

I think I just found me a new "project" : )

I noticed the brief clip of the soldiers enduring the explosion is from an Al-Qaeda propaganda video.

I think that speaks for itself.

Mujibar

Mujibar was trying to get a job in India .

The Personnel Manager said, "Mujibar, you have passed all the tests, except one. Unless you pass it you cannot qualify for this job."

Mujibar said, "I am ready"

The manager said, "Make a sentence using the words Yellow, Pink and Green."

Mujibar thought for a few minutes and said, "Mister manager, I am ready"

The manager said, "Go ahead."

Mujibar said, "The telephone goes green, green, and I pink it up, and say, 'Yellow, this is Mujibar.'"

Mujibar now works as a technician at a call center for computer problems.

No doubt you have spoken to him.

Vietnam dogfight!

#102 Thanos

You did an AWESOME job on that post on your site Thanos. Congrats. That will be getting around, for sure.

Side note: can you find a jpeg of the woman with the purple finger? that would be great to add!

#97 AladinSane

Good to see you! I don't believe we've been on at the same time in months.

Agreed about?...

I have always argued, with great futility, that the position of chief executive of the United States is a precarious position - and was meant to be.

But what worked, quite well, in a world of slow communications and limited money and power has become rather outmoded. Thus, FDR's creation of what amounted to an imperial presidency, and our current habit of electing (if only in the public imagination) four-year kings.

The Constitution is a brilliant document, and I do not propose amending it without long thought and a great deal of caution; but I do propose that we amend it to slow down the "will of the people" just a little.

And forgive me if I start thinking of Herbert's Bureau of Sabotage.

Why does Kos want to hand over Iraq to Iran?

Why does Kos want to abandon these kids?

Maybe Kos wants them to grow up in a country that does this to their women.

102

I know the feeling, I sometimes miss commenting on threads while trying to cool off. Hang in there! You do good work!

107 cbinflux

ROTFLMAO!

61 dianna

He's also directly responsible for Slick finishing out his term.

Thanos
DO NOT smack your wife's finger with a hammer, again.

110 Dianna

Good to see you! I don't believe we've been on at the same time in months

Good to see you too!

I have always argued, with great futility, that the position of chief executive of the United States is a precarious position - and was meant to be.

Agreed that it is, but sometimes I think the times call for an individual to transcend the powers of office and call for the will of the people to over-ride the politics of the political process. I think Reagan accomplished this, and wish Bush could. That's all.

#109 ornery elephant

a jpeg of the woman with the purple finger?

;-)

#114 cbinflux

I know!

It's amazing to me - I keep pointing all this out to my Male, and he keeps saying, "Run, Fred, run!"

I respond with Shadow laughter.

Worse, somehow, my Male thinks Fred is honest; I honestly don't. I'm not thrilled with a lot of Giulliani's positions, but at least the man is up front - he's not pretending he didn't hold positions he did! I think Fred Thompson has fed everything - everything! - through the Candidate-o-matic, and I don't think I can trust a word he says.

#118 Silhouette

LOL !

(picking self up, getting rag to clean up the spilled coffee)

Let's pretend Democracy...

[Link: www.thememriblog.org...]

Some inconvenient truths:
Sharia courts already operating in Britain
Robert Spencer says:

This presents the British authorities with an opportunity to reassert the fact that all in Britain must abide by British law: they could move decisively to shut down these courts, and to criminalize Sharia in Britain. Will they do any of that? Probably not.

U.S. taxpayers subsidize terrorist propaganda and Holocaust denial in the Arab world

Reading KKKos is like watching a train wreck. You'll take a look out of curiosity but you find your lips puckering as you begin to glance away knowing destruction is soon to follow.

120 Dianna

I think Fred Thompson has fed everything - everything! - through the Candidate-o-matic, and I don't think I can trust a word he says.

I don't have an opinion on Fred yet, but I know where I come down if I compare him to Hillary...

California Hotels Go Green With Low-Flow Toilets, Solar Lights

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Visitors to the Gaia Napa Valley Hotel and Spa won't find the Gideon Bible in the nightstand drawer. Instead, on the bureau will be a copy of ``An Inconvenient Truth,'' former Vice President Al Gore's book about global warming.

/Go forth, Fearless Progressive, take Qurans out of hotels in Islamic countries, replace with Gore's book, try to make it out alive.

#117 Aladin Sane

Reagan - of whom I was not fond, btw - could speak to the heart, and convince a weary, confused people to fling their hearts over the wall one more time.

Bush, whose heart and head (in my absolutely unhumble - not to say arrogant - opinion) are better-centered than Reagan's, is inarticulate to the point of incoherence. He knows, I think, that if he attempts to name the enemy, given the failure of the "This is good versus evil" speech, he will poison the well, and leave any successor with nowhere to go, no words to say, to motivate a weary and confused people.

No, this is not ideal. This is not even a good situation. But to transcend the limits - properly imposed - of the office, requires someone more capable of eliciting that movement of the heart than George W. Bush has demonstrated himself as being. I regret it; but it's about communication, and inspiration, and Bush lacks that particular gift.

#119 sadm

Sweetie, provided you got the two n's, you're doing just great.

Appropos of nothing, I read "The History of The English Speaking People from 1900".

The author related a story about the British in India. A general, I think his name was Napier, was confronted with the Indian custom of suttee. That of burning the still-alive widow on the funeral pyre of her dead husband.

Napier, or whatever his name was, reponded with "We British have our customs too. You, Sir, shall build your pyre and toss the widows upon it. We in turn will build our gallows and hang those that burn the widows."

Seemed like a good take on multi-culturalism to me...

That type of person is still of the firm belief that STUPIDITY is an asset. Stupidity enables them to ignore facts and simply regurgitate the hate that has become their mantra.

You cannot debate such people. Logic has no place in a mind so filled with hate, thus when faced with facts, the hate-filled mind simply ignores the facts and continues spewing hate, lies and smears. The more outrageous, unbelievable and false, the lies and smears, the the greater the acceptance by those of like ilk.

#98 Dianna

Per your comment about Markos Moulitsas' living quarters...

Here's his answer from an interview with NYTimes Magazine:

How do you support yourself these days? Does Daily Kos bring in enough advertising revenue to enable you to eat?

Last year, I probably earned somewhere between $70,000 and $80,000. I live comfortably. My wife and I just bought a house here in Berkeley.

Did our checks bounce?

Top Hamas official: Kill all Americans
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Sheik Ahmad Bahr, acting Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council, declared during a Friday sermon at a Sudan mosque that America and Israel will be annihilated and called upon Allah to kill Jews and Americans "to the very Last One". Following are excerpts from the sermon that took place last month, courtesy of MEMRI.

Ahmad Bahr began: "You will be victorious" on the face of this planet. You are the masters of the world on the face of this planet. Yes, [the Koran says that] "you will be victorious," but only "if you are believers." Allah willing, "you will be victorious," while America and Israel will be annihilated. I guarantee you that the power of belief and faith is greater than the power of America and Israel. They are cowards, who are eager for life, while we are eager for death for the sake of Allah. That is why America's nose was rubbed in the mud in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Somalia, and everywhere.

Bahr continued and said that America will be annihilated, while Islam will remain. The Muslims "will be victorious, if you are believers." Oh Muslims, I guarantee you that the power of Allah is greater than America, by whom many are blinded today. Some people are blinded by the power of America. We say to them that with the might of Allah, with the might of His Messenger, and with the power of Allah, we are stronger than America and Israel.

The Hamas spokesperson concluded with a prayer, saying: "Oh Allah, vanquish the Jews and their supporters. Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them all, down to the very last one. Oh Allah, show them a day of darkness. Oh Allah, who sent down His Book, the mover of the clouds, who defeated the enemies of the Prophet defeat the Jews and the Americans, and bring us victory over them."

127 Dianna

No, this is not ideal. This is not even a good situation. But to transcend the limits - properly imposed - of the office, requires someone more capable of eliciting that movement of the heart than George W. Bush has demonstrated himself as being. I regret it; but it's about communication, and inspiration, and Bush lacks that particular gift.

I think we just agreed again. But I'm saddened that this cause is worth more than all of the politics that surround it. We have an opportunity to be great and do great things, yet the dems seek political advantage.

History will tell. I hope Pelosi and Reid are remembered as small minded and petty.

If these pukes win the battle of cultures in the US (and there is a decent chance they will), then we will lose the Battle of Civilizations. However, if that happens, I will take actual joy in watching them suffer the consequences of their folly, for I find them far more evil than the Ba'al worshipers who have aligned themselves against us.

Dianna,

If only Bush could say something like this

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender

and this from a leader whose constituents we being bombed in their cities daily. And they, rightly, believed him and stood behind him.

It's time for us to have such a leader.

Addenda to #135

Such a leader won't come from the current crop of dems.

When my ancestor (James was his first name) arrived in Jamestown, VA in the 1650's, he knew his enemies and his allies. He knew his duty was to be an Englishman, an entrepeneur, a missionary, a militiaman, and a servant to his community. He surveyed the land, returned to England, and came back with 11 indentured servants to farm a 600-acre land grant south of the Appotomattox River in present-day Prince George County.

He was a soldier in what is now the VA Army National Guard, as am I (I am also a veteran of the US Regular Army). Until recently I have vehemently opposed mandatory military service because I believed that military service should arise from the heart of the individual and his desire to serve his fellow man (all words are assumed gender neutral for those of you who are too ignorant to understand pre-1984 English).

Now I am coming to grips withe notion that American Citizens should all understand our personal stake in the Greatest Human Experiment in Freedom in which any nation has ever embarked in all of recorded history.

Given this insight, I believe that maybe it would be a good idea for all able-bodied and able-minded men over the age of 17 to be required to serve in a branch of the US Armed Forces (Active Duty, Reserve, or National Guard) for a minimum of 2 years active and 6 years inactive (IRR). While I understand that this does not seem to produce in European countries who require mandatory military service the high quality armed forces personnel which we in the US boast (witness our "allies" the Germans, French, etc.), I also understand that those other countries are not as obviously in the international crosshairs as we are.

I am still thinking about this approach, but I am certainly not yet convinced that this is a bad approach at this point in history.

#131 ornery elephant

I'm here to tell you that's nonsense. $70 - $80 K in the Bay Area will buy you bugger all. Particularly 2-3 years ago.

Prices were going nuts. Unless his wife made about the same, they could not possibly have bought a house on his income.

#137

I agree! The problem with your statement is the able-minded part. I'm afraid that would just about leave it up to the ones we get now!
Yes, some sarc there, but not much!

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137 SuperdaveTWC

Should we ever adopt a national interest and fortitude that would allow us to do what is best without the petty political bickering we could talk about compulsary service. As it is now, we as a nation, or at least as exemplified by our nation's politicians, lack the political will to use our resources to do what is right.

#20 Tangonine

Nice! I had not heard them until now.

Thanks!

I guess I'll say goodnight.

Yesterday, I arrived at SeaTac airport. As I was waiting for my luggage at the carousel, I spotted a service-man in his fatiques. I walked up to him and addressed him.

"Thank you for your service Sir!"

He looked at me like a deer in the headlights, and finally thought about it and said

"Thank you, it means a lot to me"

I said

"No thank you, we appreciate all you are doing"

after that I shook his hand.

God Bless America, and God Bless our troops in harm's way! If you haven't let one of our troops know that you appreciate what they are doing, please do so!

Night all!

Nite all! have enjoyed reading your thoughts!

Damn, I thought retirement meant you didn't have to work any more!

Top out

The problem with most of the people here is a reflexively defensive posture against the left as expressed by DailyKos. Yet never do I see an answer to the question: What does winning mean? Who is the enemy? It's not enough to throw stones at the left. That is weak. True, it is easier to excoriate the left than analyze the failings of your own leader and party. But is the anger of the left really so unreasonable under the circumstances? Of course there are many camps that detest Bush and his policies. And several are represented on DailyKos.

On one hand, there are those, like Gravel and Kucinich who don't see the necessity for war under most circumstances. They are the minority. These are the peacenicks who live in a bubble. Their desire for peace is noble, but unrealistic given we have real enemies who never engage in real negotiation. After all, the Koran is about vanquishing the infidels, not about negotiating with them.

But there are others who are not about peace at any cost. They use their reason and logic and still can't sanction this idiotic war. And they are right. So don't label all of them peacenicks or use epitaphs as convenient excuses for careful analysis of your own position. Most Americans just can't abide more American soldiers dying for the false reason of saving Iraqis. If we want to protect our interests, our best chance is in dividing the country into 3. Divide and conquer, remember. And that idea comes from a Democrat...Senator Biden.

But if you are going to support a President in a misguided war with no plan, all enemies, and no hope of success, then explain why with something other than easy propaganda tricks like name calling. Be honest with what you do want. If control of the oil is what you want then say so. As far as I am concerned, we should keep the oil and never let the Iranians have any chance of controlling it. But to suggest that Maliki is our friend is stupid. To say he has much power is stupid. Our support of him gains us nothing. To suggest that either Sunnis or Shiites are our friends is also unrealistic. If the Iraqis can't get along, let them all kill each other. But let's get our soldiers our of their line of fire. Or divide their country up so it is more manageable. And if we're going to protect the oil, let's be honest and say so, and keep some of it for ourselves and for our own security interests.

It makes me sick that taxpayer dollars are going to train and arm Iraqis who will ultimately do the bidding of Iran, double cross us and kill more Americans. There are no Iraqis we can trust, except perhaps the Kurds. Bush is a failed leader who has damaged U.S. security interests. To have any faith in his ability to change the current dynamic is wishful thinking. It's like saying Olmert should remain as Israeli prime minister after his failed war. They are both losers and have done damage to their respective countries. We need new strategies to prevent Iran from gaining more of a foothold. Bush has demonstrated he is incapable of doing this.

On the other hand, the Democratic Senator Biden has demonstrated he has more of an understanding of our strategic position than the President and his allies. If you care about our strategic interests, start admitting Bush isn't the one to protect them. In fact, Guilliani is the only Republican I would trust to do that...and that is primarily because he went up against the mafia. And then there is Hillary, who does have what it takes as well. Balls and brains.

Kos wouldn't know truth if it swam up and bit him on the ass.

Truth is whatever supports their worldview, so it is relative, changable, adaptable, forgettable, laughable, and whatever it needs to be to fit their tin foil world.

Lord, it ain't right that it doesn't hurt to be that stupid.

5,000,000 years of evolution SHOULD have killed off these defective genes, but nooo...

#144 Sardine,

If you think Joe Biden an able candidate, you're even dumber than I thought. Old plagiarizing Joe hasn't had an original thought in his whole life.

Here's my problem with bohunks like you. You provide a long winded post without a whiff of reality - it's either cliche or innuendo. So let me give you an idea because I think you, KKKos, George Soros, and the rest of your crony, slacking, cowardly, scum bag groupies are as much the enemy as I do the head loppers. When 1/2 of America wakes up to that fact, we will be a lot better off and start dealing with your ilk in a more appropriate manner.

So here's my idea: If you can't help or offer assistance to those who protect you, shut up. If you want to criticize without offering a viable suggestion, get lost. If you are going to use the lame line "I want the best for our military, or I'm for our soldiers but...put a sock in it. And if you think America is the problem, emigrate elsewhere.

Same mentality as the idiot I heard on John Gibson today. Some Americans4surrenderbutitsnotsurrender.org kind of organization. I have never wanted to reach out and throttle someone as much as this idiot. Gibson kept asking very pointed questions, like "are you funded by George Soros?", answer: no, I don't get any funding from George Soros, "are you getting funds from moveon.org?" answer: "we are aligned with moveon.org ... " very obvious the guy is part of that movement, but knew better than to admit it.

What got my blood boiling was his contention that 60% of Americans want us to leave Iraq, soon. Gibson tried to pin him down with questions like "do you want America to lose in Iraq?" Answer, "No, we just need to do things differently and need a non-military solution". This kind of evasiveness went on for minutes on end. Pure moonbat. My blood pressure just kept climbing listening to that loony. Gibson was relentless, he finally told the guy that after the Pol-Pot like massacres started following the Iraq surrender actions by the Democrats, he would call the guy back and get his comments.

/I might be one of those 60% who is unhappy with how things are going in Iraq. But my unhappiness is with how the action and ROE's were set up to appease the moonbats like Gibson interviewed so they wouldn't be offended. Not exactly speaking for me, is he?

Screw you, Kos.

#144 sardine

Wow, you're like the lukewarm person that Jesus wanted to throw up out of his mouth.

I just saw this.

I think more of a point needs to be made of the fact that there are about 2 million Cambodians who are not alive anymore because this country turned tail in the middle of a major conflict.

I do not say this happily or as an accusation of our service men and women.

But it is definitely meant as an accusation of the policy of the majority of this Congress.

You can't veto the truth.

As far as those words go, he is correct. But no further.

A stopped clock shows the right time every 12 hours, but it's still useless.

#64 solomonpanting
Who said this?

When I see the worsening degeneracy in our politicians, our media, our educators, and our intelligentsia, I can’t help wondering if the day may yet come when the only thing that can save this country is a military coup.

That day is coming. I feel the same way myself.

#144 sandrine

Yet never do I see an answer to the question: What does winning mean?

OK, for the 8,642,196th time, I will answer the question. Not that it will matter, you won't understand anyhow. But here goes, I'll give it a try.

Winning means that Iraq will have a government that will sustain itself with at least a modicum of security.
There is a government in Iraq, a government that was elected by the people of Iraq.
I assume that you agree that there is a government there?
I assume that you would also agree that there are elements that want to topple that government, right?
Ask yourself sandrine, who or what are those elements?
What do they want?
Are their goals altruistic?
If these elementst gain control of the government of Iraq, what will Iraq look like? Will these elements turn Iraq into a Taliban type state?
If these elements do turn Iraq into a Taliban type state, then will we be back to square one, with another Afganistan only with oil resources, do you agree?
If we leave precipitously, do you think these elements will forcefully overtake the Iraqi government?
If you do, do you think that it will be a good thing for America?
If you don't think that it would be good for America, do you think it would be a good thing for us to stay long enough to help the elected government ensure that those elements are marginalized?
If you think that we should stay and help the elected government marginalize the radical elements, do you believe that it would be a good strategy to signal to those radical elements when we plan on leaving?

Answer these questions and maybe we can have a good conversation.

Oh, and sandrine, Bush bashing is so 2006.

It's 2007, Pelosi and Reid bashing is all the rage nowadays...get with the program.

144 sandrine
I used to think Biden had a brain. After watching him question Roberts I realized he is a total fake, like Schumer, except that his staff are also idiots. This man is clearly a trust baby. A moron.

#144 sandrine

Joe "ten minute question" Biden? The man that would have sex with himself it it was possible?

/congratulations, you've now moved up to the #1 moby slot at LGF, it's not even a close call anymore it's so obvious, good luck making it to 100 comments

#146Goodbye_natalie

I did offer a plan...the joe biden plan of dividing Iraq in 3. I praised joe for his plan not for his candidacy. You, on the other hand, stated no plan. It was moaning and groaning about my type. And therein lies the problem. People like you prefer going to war with other Americans than fighting the real Islamic enemies. I think you should put that up to a vote...how many Americans want to fight each other...oops...the Repubicans have already done that for the last 6 years...and what an accomplishment!

But thanks for articulating your American civil war strategy so all could examine its merits.

But repeat..we now know your plan for America..but what is your plan for Iraq...specifics please

The Democrats declared war on the rest of America a long time ago.

#147azfederalist

And what was your plan again? Give Maliki more weapons and more training? So we train their soldiers to be good fighters, and then what? Do you think they'll line up with us or with Iran?
So I assume you are telling us you trust the Shiite Iraqis? Or do you just trust Bush...who cares about the details.

#157 sandrine

I did offer a plan...the joe biden plan of dividing Iraq in 3

Oh boy, the Sunnis will love that plan. Think the Saudis will go for it? One things for sure, the Turks are chomping at the bit to go after the Kurds.

/we'll have a wider regional war on our hands within six months, good thinking, peace through further destabilization

#153 Sagebrush

Your first sentence I agree with. But what if that is not possible. Maliki doesn't have control of his govt. And there are terrorists who are elected members of the parliament. Further, this parliament is taking a two month vacation in June. The whole thing is a joke.

So my answer. I wish your first sentence would be possible, but there is no one on the other side to negotiate with. The government doesn't really exist as an entity that can accomplish anything. No one wants to compromise. They pass no legislation...nothing gets done...And the Iranians are involved and Al Queda. Each has representative in this so called govt. It is all a sham. The middle class, the professional class...anyone who has any brains...they have all left the country. Only the poor and violent elements remain. Only dividing the country into their own enclaves will have any chance of success.

153 DesertSage 5/01/2007 10:35:41 pm PDT

If these elements do turn Iraq into a Taliban type state, then will we be back to square one, with another Afganistan only with oil resources, do you agree?

Every terrorist our military kills in Iraq helps America. What frustrates me though, and I think a lot of people, is how it can be that the Iraqis would even allow these elements to turn their country into a Taliban type state. Why aren't they fighting harder against these elements and with us, instead of so many giving their lives to kill our troops and each other over their differences in religion. Many of those our military is fighting against over there are "foreign fighter facilitators" and they are Iraqi. Not outsiders.

I think that is what gets under the skin of a lot of people. We have been there for 4 years, I would think the Iraqis would be able to carry the ball by now. By now, we should be atleast at the point of only having to defend a base or two of ours over there. I think we should keep our military based in Iraq forever if that is what it takes. The fact that the sunnis and shia are still killing each other and our troops though is not a good sign that Iraq is going to become a peaceful, stable democracy that gives equal rights to women and non-Muslims. I'm not saying that is a goal to give up on. Just that maybe we shouldn't be judging our success over there by the failure to meet it. The Democrats are exploiting it for their own benefit.

#159 az federalist

That is the Bush plan...arm and train Shiite Iraqis, i.e. Maliki govt. Iran is Shiite. Saudi Arabia is Sunni. There are more Sunnis than Shiitesin the Arab world, except in Iran and Iraq. The Maliki govt is Shiite, which is majority population. A majority of Shiites in the govt have ties to Iran. We are arming and training an army that will double cross us. Get it. We arm the Shiites ...Iran probably arms them both. Our folly is to imagine they won't turn on us the minute we leave and let Iran have access to the entire country. So splitting the country into 3, Kurds, Sunnis, and Shiites, gives us more hope of stabilization.

#161 sandrine

#153 Sagebrush

Personal insults now, how classy.

/keep pushing, shouldn't be too much longer

Democrats want this war to end now because:

1. They want the bloody aftermath of a precipitous withdraw to be the sole responsibility of the Bush administration.

2. The Democrats don't have a clue how to handle the War On Terror, so again, if they can blame Bush...all the better.

3. The Democrats are scared to death that they will inherit the Iraq war if the win the White House in '08, and they don't have a clue how to handle it. Because folks, Democrats are followers. They don't know how to lead, they just look for consensus. It's the old stick your finger in the air and see which way the wind is blowing type of leadership. The only problem is...that's not the way you run a Representative Democracy. Hell, why don't we just have referendums on everything and do away with the three branches of government?

Leaders lead, they don't do things by popularity like the sissy Lefty Democrats do. Ending slavery was very unpopular in the middle of the 19th century, but a great leader led this country into a war that cost over a half million lives (out of a population of 30 million, you do the math). But he did it because he was a leader, not a consensus taker.
Democrats hated this man that led, as did the majority of the country. But the man did lead, and our country is much better for it.
Democrats haven't changed much in the last 150 years, except today they don't own slaves in the traditional way. Today the Democrats keep African Americans on the plantation in other ways, it's called welfare, public housing and affirmative action.
But leaders? Not one in the bunch.

#163 sandrine

So splitting the country into 3, Kurds, Sunnis, and Shiites, gives us more hope of stabilization.

So, besides "Political Gadfly" Biden, who else recommends that nonsense?

/certainly no one in the military

#164 Killian Bundy

Last night I was calling him/her "sardine", so "Sagebrush" was just payback I guess.

Although tonight I was very careful to refer to Sandrine the correct way.

#167 DesertSage

Although tonight I was very careful to refer to Sandrine the correct way.

Well, if you read it's comments, it only posts BDS crap and generally tries spewing ridiculous nonsense that it obviously knows will evoke controversy. It's not interested in legitimate debate, only stirring up trouble here.

/the classic definition of a moby

I meant Desert Sage...I was just tired...no offense meant...

But seriously, Bush is arming the bad guys...that's why I'm so upset...Maliki spent time in Iran...they gave him asylum...Of course, the problem is that they are all bad guys...bad guys who hate each other too and both hate us..so it's an impossible situation. Bush has been so ineffective at dealing with Iran, that they all know Iran will be back eventually...so no one there will alienate Iran. It's like a backroom deal.

The Dems gave Bush more money than he asked for so the troops would have everything they needed. Read what Senator Jim WEbb has to say. He was Secretary of the Navy under REagan and served in Vietnam, won medals, etc.
The veto is holding up the money, not the Dems. Bush doesn't want the conditions. He wants to keep doing what he wants...unfortunately...if you like what he's done for the last 4 year...you'll want more of the same...But if you think he might not know what he's doing...you'd want benchmarks and accountability... 4 years is a long time to keep making mistakes...all by himself, the decider...

Again, I remind you all that you are alienating the very people you need in the fight against Islam. I am in for that fight. I disagree that Bush has been effective in fighting Islam. I think he has been a disaster. He's an embarrassment. Just today, he's asked in Europe if Condi is going to talk to the Foreign Minister of Iran at a meeting they are both ATTENDING...His answer is childish. He tells the Europeans that Condi will act polite .(you know if she's going, and knows the Iranians are coming, there is a reason)... It sounds so stupid.

He has been weak with Iran, even though they are supplying fighters and IEDs. Why do you all support an incompetent fighting a war incompetently? Why is he so light with the real force behind the war, Iran? and Syria? If they weren't arming everyone, maybe it wouldn't have degenerated into what we have. But did we stop Iran and Syria from entering Iraq? Did we stop them from arming Iraqis? NO. SO WHY NOT?

It sounds like you want a surrender timetable for Al-Qaeda to use. You think that Bush is grandstanding? why haven't the Democrats just pulled the funding? because apart from their moonbat following, they realize they were not voted in to lose the war.

Killian bundy

Biden's plan is gaining support from Republicans and Democrats. I think Brownback is interested, but I'm too tired to research it to be entirely sure. You don't have to like Biden to think his plan is good. He has over 25 years foreign policy experience. You just need to read it and decide if it makes sense to you.

#170 sandrine

Why is he so light with the real force behind the war, Iran? and Syria?

Great, now you're getting somewhere. The contingency plans are in place, let's start bombing the [expletive deleted] out of them starting tomorrow. Oh, I'm sorry, you asked why don't we.

/because your fellow LLL travelers would [expletive deleted] wet their collective pants, that's why

#172 sandrine

You just need to read it and decide if it makes sense to you.

I have read it and most rational people see it as a recipe for disaster (yes, much worse than what's occurring now) and regional war. It's DOA anyway because the Sunnis/Saudis will never accept it.

/most of the country is already stable, we're turning the tide now in al Anbar, and we still need to pacify the Baghdad area, which is what the surge is intended to do, hop on for the big win, although it won't be before the end of the weekend

Kos On Truth? Isn't that kinda like saying Lenin on democracy? Dillinger on law and order? Carter on strong effective leadership?

Sardine,

Again, I remind you all that you are alienating the very people you need in the fight against Islam. I am in for that fight. I disagree that Bush has been effective in fighting Islam. I think he has been a disaster.

Your plan is no plan at all. It's Clinton status quo. And my civil war would be no civil war at all - because two sides are needed to fight a war. My war would be your rout if I get it my way.

Why should I try to outline a reason for anything as complex as why it's necessary to take the war to Iraq, Iran, or anywhere else when you're so dumb you think Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton viable candidates? Biden is possibly the weakest, lefty member of a really weak Senate and Hillary is well, Hillary. You're a KKKos toadie and it's wasted breath.

I'm through trying to reason with you or your group think commune. Your naivety is endangering my children, my friends, and my country. Best I can tell, your solution to global jihad is to pout and criticize while we sit around and wait for the next attack. We did it your way once from 1993-2001 and it left two buildings destroyed, our capital attacked, and 3,000+ civilians dead.

Sardine, you're just a different flavor of the hippie loving Woodstock days. They thought themselves clever back then like you do now. They ended up burned out slackers or worse...as I predict you will, assuming you can avoid the early loss of your neck by the scimitar.

More Truthism:

Hannity and Thompson lie about Reid

"Now I believe, myself, that the secretary of state, the secretary of defense and you have to make your own decision as to what the president knows: that this war is lost, that the surge is not accomplishing anything," Reid, D-Nev., told reporters.

Nowhere in this quote does Reid say that he thinks the war is lost.

Admittedly the language is a little convoluted, but it appears he's saying he believes the Sec of State and the Sec of Defense think the war is lost.

It's nice to see that Fred is willing to go on Fox with Hannity and lie.

Is this the right wing hero? A liar?

What pisses me off about the left: Major combat operations WERE over. We had taken out Saddam; Our stated goal and mission.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, YOU ETERNAL WHINEY ANTI-AMERICAN ASSHOLE LEFT-WING DEMOCRATS.

Seriously... Fuck the democrat party and it's #1 headache: Markos.

Biden: Making the lunatic democrat base happy.

[Link: www.politico.com...]

as a friend said to me last night

the dems are saying that they are following the will of the people in trying to leave Iraq.

ok

how about the will of the people on illegal immigration?

the vast majority of of people support removing illegals

so where are the dems on this?

(the traitor-crats are pathetic, as are the people that support them)

Here's some truth for that moron and the KOS Idiots!

Top Hamas official: Kill all Americans

Sheik Ahmad Bahr, acting Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council, declared during a Friday sermon at a Sudan mosque that America and Israel will be annihilated and called upon Allah to kill Jews and Americans "to the very Last One."

#40 Bubbaman

i deny 100% that the dems wanted us to win the Cold war

the fat senator kennedy met with them damn KGB when Regan (the Great) was in office.

the dems loved the Soviet Union and want to make it here.

having the jihad follow us home is how they plan to do it.

#177 Hey Wedgie! How many stupid pills do you take a day? I guess your idea of truthism is about as close to Markos, yes?

THis is what your hero, Harry "nuts" Reid said:

I believe ... that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week," Reid said, on the same day US President George W. Bush was giving a speech at an Ohio town hall meeting defending the war on terror.

This comes right off of Brietbart. Care to call them liars?

How about this?

"This war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday," Mr. Reid, Nevada Democrat, said at a Capitol Hill press conference with anti-war state legislators.

Thatr comes out of the washington Times. I guess they lied, as well.

wait! One more!

The US war in Iraq is lost and a further build-up of US troops in the country will not recover the situation, the senior Democrat in the US senate has said.

"This war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week," Harry Reid, the senate Democratic majority leader, told reporters.

Reid, who held talks with George Bush on Wednesday, said he told the president that he thought the war could not be won through military force.

courtesy of Al-jazeera. A real friendly Pro-Bush media outlet. I guess they lied, too.

All these places conspired to lie. Yea right.

You pansy cowards don't even have the gonads to own up to your own statements when bagged. No wonder our own mortal enemies wanted to see the Democrats win the elections. COWARDS, FAKES, PHONIES.

Why don't you go back to your Dad's basement and curl up inside that bong. Better yet, why don't you dry up and get a job. pansy loser

#181 Tricky Dick

Hamas is aiming a little high there, what's 1.3 billion screaming Jihadists compared to 400 W88 warheads. http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv 8-tyc7&p=W88%20nuclear%20weapon
and that's just the tip of the iceberg in total firepower.

#182 wargammer2005

Yea, no kidding. The dems loved playing kissy face with all the world's worst dictators. Castro, Brezhnev/Chernenko/Andropov, The Sandanistas, You name it. If it was a bloodthirsty dictator, they tried to kiss its fanny. I guess you could say they were jealous and admired their absolute control and power.

#180 wargammer

You said it! Add to this a ban on partial birth abortion (or as I like to call it, cold blooded murder) as most Americans are dead set against it. Or less gun control, or lower taxes. I guess the will of the people only matters when it fits some narrow and twisted poll of three people and fits their desire for defeat. Otherwise the will of the people can go to hell.

Hmmm...aren't we coming up the one-year anniversary of indictment of Karl Rove in the Valerie Plame case - you know, according to William Rivers Pitt and the gang at DU (although KKKosKidz were celebrating as well).

You know, the one where he had 24 BUSINESS HOURS to surrender himself. (I still laugh at that one and they way they pissed themselves all over and opened up the champagne when they thought Rap-Master Rove would be taking the frog march).

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

I ended up watching Blog Wars a couple of weeks ago (nice house, Charles - and you do all this from a LAPTOP?) and noted that the narrator called Charles' posting of the "smoking memo" one of "the most important blog entries of all time." (Not to mention his following it up a few years later with the "smoking photo.") It exposed the bias at CBS News and shortened the careers of agenda-driven personnel.

And Zuniga can't even get an anti-war candidate elected in one of the BLUEST states in the country. But of course, they mentioned Zuniga's most important blog entry -- his "Screw Them" entry - which if I'm not mistaken, he's trying to backpedal away from.

Lessee..."Screw Them" v. "Smoking Memo" Hey KKKos - jealous much?

173 Killian Bundy 5/02/2007 12:43:20 am PDT

Great, now you're getting somewhere. The contingency plans are in place, let's start bombing the [expletive deleted] out of them starting tomorrow. Oh, I'm sorry, you asked why don't we.

/because your fellow LLL travelers would [expletive deleted] wet their collective pants, that's why

The situation in Iraq boils down to the fact that we can't leave Iraq until we deal with Iran. We need to conduct an air war against Iran that will not only cripple their military, but will make them fear us if they even think about trying to over-run Iraq. Even then, we have to keep a base in Iraq that will have enough bombers, fighters, special forces, and intel to keep Iran and other countries in the region contained.

We then make it clear to Syria that they will get the same treatment as Iran if they don't get control over their terrorists that are supplying weapons and militants to fight against our military in Iraq. If we were to do these things, we wouldn't need our military over there in the numbers they are there trying to secure/rebuild Iraq.

I don't believe the current govt is even contemplating this.

If only Bush could say something like this

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender

and this from a leader whose constituents we being bombed in their cities daily. And they, rightly, believed him and stood behind him.

It's time for us to have such a leader.

The problem is, we have only been "bombed" twice, in two cities. Six years ago. For most Americans, you hardly notice that there's a war ongoing. Churchill's nation had evacuated half the royal family and sent their children up north to be safer. The UK were under a full blitz.

In fact, Guilliani is the only Republican I would trust to do that...and that is primarily because he went up against the mafia. And then there is Hillary, who does have what it takes as well. Balls and brains.

So, Hillary has "balls". Now we know why Bill's always steppin' out on her.

#169 sandrine

But seriously, Bush is arming the bad guys...that's why I'm so upset...Maliki spent time in Iran...they gave him asylum...Of course, the problem is that they are all bad guys...bad guys who hate each other too and both hate us..so it's an impossible situation.

You can substitute Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union for the "bad guys". How did that work out?

The middle class, the professional class...anyone who has any brains...they have all left the country. Only the poor and violent elements remain.

Sounds like most of America's large cities. You know, the ones run by Democrats.

i deny 100% that the dems wanted us to win the Cold war

Indeed. The GOP wanted to surround the USSR with a bunch of weapons and missiles and allied nations while the Dems wanted to let communists either invade or take over internally a bunch of countries and then do nothing about it [see: Grenada, Afghanistan, Nicaragua] or do something about it and then quit midway through because it was getting "too hard" [Vietnam, Korea]. How this is called "cooperation" is beyond me.

193 j-damn 5/02/2007 7:57:47 am PDT

i deny 100% that the dems wanted us to win the Cold war
Indeed. The GOP wanted to surround the USSR with a bunch of weapons and missiles and allied nations while the Dems wanted to let communists either invade or take over internally a bunch of countries and then do nothing about it [see: Grenada, Afghanistan, Nicaragua] or do something about it and then quit midway through because it was getting "too hard" [Vietnam, Korea]. How this is called "cooperation" is beyond me.

The leadership of the Democratic party is beyond disgusting. I am sorely disappointed in Pres. Bush and the leadership of the Republican party in general. They are out of touch and misguided when it comes to what our overall strategy should be with the WOT and are very uninspiring.

The Democrats however, are so pathetic and are such traitors to this country. Maybe Pres. Bush would be taking a far tougher stance against terrorist and states that sponsor terrorism (Iran and Syria) if he knew he wouldn't be fought tooth and nail by the Democrats at every turn. I think there is a disconnect between most of the every day, average Democrats and their leadership. If any of the Republicans running for President are smart, they will tap into the Democratic base of voters that are disgusted with their leadership for being so weak in fighting the WOT, as well as on border security.

Instead, it seems, they make arguments against the fringe lunatics of the Democratic party and that is not a good strategy for winning over Moderates.

Markos wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the ass. The real truth is that he and the rest of the nutroots crowd are "blame America firsters". That is not the default mode of a patriot but hey don't ever question theirs. POS.

#183 bubbasbbq -
Apparently the word "truthism" when used on this blog is beyond your vocabulary. Do a little research before you type.
You might even want to click on somebody's football to check them out, too, before you go making rash statements, newbie.

Ergo, that bill must not be the "truth" since it got vetoed. I'm just saying...

#196 Hey wedgie for brains

I bag you in a load BS red handed and that is the best you can come up with for a come back? I did my research. You can look it up yourself. Just go to the Washington Time. Brietbart and Al-Jazeera. It is all right there. unless of course you know you are full of BS and this is a typical pansy liberal trick to conjure personal attack on me in order to change the subject. Yep, I'm a dumb hillybilly. who owns guns. a few actually. ya know, it took me all of 30 seconds to find those results. Don't believe me, try it. Afterall Harry "snapper" Reid's comments were only played on Al-Jazeera TV about once every 30 minutes for three full days for all the world to see. So who is full of it? Obviously some liberal who is too afraid of the truth to confront it, and has to lie about potential presidential candidates in order to prop up the motley crew running on the dhimmicrat side.

Oh yes, I'll continue my attacks on cowardly liberals but I will also back it up with facts.
Now be a good little boy, spin your propellor, and go do your research. Just search for "Harry Reid" "war is lost" You'll get many many direct quotes from many many very liberal media outlets. And they ALL SAY THE SAME THING.

Yup, you da' man, bubba -- you done got me good.

I'll bet yer a Jeff Gordon fan. :-)

DesertSage#154

Very insightful and clever...I agree...flavor of the month...

#160 Killian Bundy

So, are you advocating taking our marching orders from the Saudis? As for Turkey and the Kurds...hmmm...seems to me Turkey has its own internal problems...like an Islamic President who has moved the country away from their secular tradition..the Islamic party has a majority in their Parliament...definitely trouble there..

#194 AirForce Wife

I agree with you. But Bush hasn't done any of that...which is why I say he is weak and stupid..He is all talk and stupid action...a wimp in reality...There has been no ultimatum to Iran...in fact, there is NO strategy...He slinks around...like telling the foreign press in Europe Condi would be "polite" when she met Iran's foreign minister...please...

I know it is difficult for the people here to see Bush and Republicans for the wimps that they are...remember, Reagan left Lebanon after the Hizbollah hit on our Marines...no retaliation...
it doesn't get wimpier than that...But Bush takes the cake...Iran is behind the IEDs...and has military advisers in Iraq...they are a legitimate target...but Bush is all bombastic talk and nothing else...except he is now pressuring Israel and talking to Hamas...wake up...tough boys...your boy goes after Democrats instead of the really bad guys..Only followers believe their ears over their eyes...

And this from a KosKid with mild dementia:

BUSH BACKED DOWN! So Bush actually surrendered to Congress' authority yesterday!

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

#201 sandrine

So, are you advocating taking our marching orders from the Saudis?

Did I say that? No. What I said was that the the Saudis wouldn't accept it. As in ally with the Iraqi Sunnis and go to war over it.

As for Turkey and the Kurds...hmmm...seems to me Turkey has its own internal problems...

Right, that must be why Turkey is already threatening to send 10,000 troops into Iraq this month.

/you should really pay more attention, because you don't seem to be particularly well informed

I wish I found this level of evil shocking, but I don't. Not any more.