There is no honor in this.

Unacceptable.

These people need to have their asses kicked into this century

Awful. The pictures are disturbing, but not very graphic.

In case you want to look

I actually sent this link to Charles about 3 seconds before he posted it, should've known he was ahead of me as usual...I read this and was literally sickened, it's hard to believe this goes on at ALL, but the constant references to the girl's 'family members' being the ones who sanctioned it just prove that this 'religion' has no place in decent human society.

To their credit the video was posted on YouTube twice, and both times taken down.

Sorry fot the OT...Just found this over at MyDD in the debate thread.

Re: Republican Presidential Reagan seance (3.00 / 1)

These Republicans are really desperate, and ghoulish.  If I hear Reagan's name one more fucking time, I'm gonna puke.

Nancy Reagan paraded Ronnie's dead body around during his two-week long funeral a few years ago.  Well, I am sure he's still preserved enough if he made it two weeks without stinking, so these GOPers should just dig his ass up and bow down to his holiness.

Jesus ain't got nothin on Reagan with these current Republicans.

by jgarcia on Thu May 03, 2007 at 09:01:44 PM EST

How progressive.*Spit*

It is feared her death has already triggered a retaliatory attack. Last week 23 Yezidi workmen were forced off a bus travelling from Mosulto Bashika by a group of Sunni gunmen and summarily shot dead.

When can we stop caring about their sects and cults ?

And by the way, I don't think nearly enough is being made in the media of the fact that "Iraqi security forces" stood by and WATCHED this horror, not only not stopping it, but basically participating in it as spectators. These are the goons we're trying to train to protect innocent civilians so that we can leave their country? Very encouraging.

Let's call these
"Dishonor Murders".

A horrific crime. To them, it's culture. To us, it's a brutal crime.

This story needs to be told, loud and often, IMHO. The people in our country and all of western civilization need to know about this, over and over again. Something needs to wake them up!

Whomever stood there and just took photos without helping her is just as bad as the scumbags who did this.

Nazis, the REAL Nazis, loved their children more than these fucks.

It is feared her death has already triggered a retaliatory attack. Last week 23 Yezidi workmen were forced off a bus travelling from Mosul to Bashika by a group of Sunni gunmen and summarily shot dead.

I find it hard to believe that Sunnis would massacre non-Muslims in rataliation for a stoning. I would bet that some important details of this event were left out of this article - like maybe these same Sunnis were Arabs who killed these people because they were Kurds, or just because they are non-Muslims.

Kurdish authorities have introduced reforms outlawing honour killings, but have failed to investigate them or prosecute suspects, added the Amnesty spokesman.

Maybe the Kurdish authorities have even more pressing concerns - like stopping the Moore/Sheehan "minutemen" from tearing Kurdistan apart.

"This young girl’s murder is truly abhorrent and her killers must be brought to justice.

yeah, good luck with that.

"Unless the authorities respond vigorously to this and any other reports of crimes in the name of 'honour', we must fear for the future of women in Iraq."

be afraid, be very afraid.

/just plain pissed that people have such little regard for life, especially of their own family.

How ignorant am I that I have never before even heard of the Yadzidis?

ROPMA's number 5 post on the 'booby trap girl's school thread has a link to the video. Wouldn't recommend it, but if you want to see what we are fighting, there it is.

#4 lorenska

I actually sent this link to Charles about 3 seconds before he posted it, should've known he was ahead of me as usual...

Actually, it was posted on the previous thread.

It's things like this that make the war lose support. What we should be hearing is this being escalated up to Maliki, he should condemn it publically and say what steps will be done to condemn it and prevent it in the future...and we should hear from our President that pressure to be humane will be put on that new regime.

For some reason, I think it'll just be crickets...

Where is the "honor" in murder?

Backwards people

Vile beyond words

Just call it what it is, murder

Why do the simplest things need the most complex labels - modernity is stupidity sometimes

Honor killings are not just limited to Islam. It may be sanctioned by Islamic authorities but it's not exclusively Islamic. Arab Christians also practice it, especially if a female family member converts to Islam to marry a Muslim man. Hindus do it if a girl marries someone from a different caste. Good that Charles highlighted a non-Muslim honor killing. At least it dispels the 'racist' charge that people level at him.

8 Lorenska

I would also like to know if their news coverage over there in iraq condemns it as well and what their gov't has to say about it.

What sort of culture has taken root in the minds of Iraq's inhabitants to allow little to no conscience in the stoning of a poor young girl?

#19 religion of bacon: That figures, too, I'm usually a step behind, at least I know I'm on the same wavelength with everyone here, I just hadn't gotten to the previous thread yet. When I read the story, I knew I'd see it here somewhere today.

#20 High Rise: Couldn't agree more, it's hard to support the cause of staying and protecting citizens of a country when this is how they behave (and their so-called 'security forces' and police don't even blink). As much as I support the fact that we ousted Saddam and appreciate that SOME Iraqis want true freedom and democracy, people who always put religion above man-made laws - as Muslims will always do - can never have a true and open democracy, nor freedoms such as we are trying to offer them. The two just don't reconcile, and THAT'S the only reason I question our ongoing commitment over there - if they don't want our help or support, maybe we should stop offering it to them. Just my opinion.

#26 Hermann Minkowski

Are you the famous dead mathematician? Cool.

OT:

The Conservatives answer to YouTube's "liberal bias",

[Link: www.qubetv.tv...]

I just saw the video. I do not recommend it.

There were more than 8-9 men involved. It was a mob frenzied. And there there was the cheering 'allah!'.

Damn them. Destroy them. Remove them from our lives.

Banned By YouTUBe?

Go to [Link: www.qubetv.tv...]

26 Hermann Minkowski 5/04/2007 12:48:31 pm PDT

What sort of culture has taken root in the minds of Iraq's inhabitants to allow little to no conscience in the stoning of a poor young girl?

I think it's been there in that region. It is a culture that believes life means nothing on this earth, that women are horrible wretches, that sex is a horrible thing to enjoy...gives a path to these killings.

#31 mglazer

Banned By YouTUBe?

Go to [Link: [Link: www.qubetv.tv...]...]

Great timing.

The religion makes the culture. Any minority religion in a majority Muslim culture will take on some of the misogyny and hypocrisy of Islam.

Nice to meet cha!

28 religion of bacon 5/04/2007 12:50:14 pm PDT

#26 Hermann Minkowski

Are you the famous dead mathematician? Cool.

I wish, except for the dead part. I only take his namesake because his mathematical theories have always excited me...that, and he tutored another great mind of the 20th century. ;)

Here’s an example of an “honor killing” (a horrible term for an evil practice) that is not linked to Islam or perpetrated by Muslims.

hey! Sharia's not much better.

What's wrong with instituting this kind of treatment for gays, lesbians and transgendered people? The left is enamored of Islam and Sharia. So what's the problem?

/I don't understand.

Yezidis are a Kurdish sect, named after their supposed founder Yezid, the Umayyad Caliph. The Yezidi revere the Prophet Mohammed and the Sufi mystic Adi Musafir, a descendent of the Umayyad Caliphs (Kalifs). Adi is credited with writing many of the Yezidi Holy texts and is possibly the originator of the faith. Islamic writings mention the religion as early as the fourteenth century, but some scholars link them to Mithraism, Zoroastrianism, and even ancient Iraqi Buzzard worshippers. Yezidism is an enigma that has confounded scholars and incited debate for some time. The influence of Islam on the religion is heavy and obscures other aspects. Tantalizing clues point in every direction- rituals involving fire and prayers recited in the direction of the sun are distinctly Zoroastrian; taboos against eating lettuce and beans, baptisms, and the belief that Christ is a prophet hint at Manicheism. Other unusual aspects of Yezidi belief are the reverence of an immortal elemental spirit named Khidir; temple decorations in Lalish are distinctly Mithraic.

OT,

We have a major public mental health crisis brewing.

22% of Americans are Insane, Believe Bush Knew About 9/11 in Advance

Many of them even vote, I'm sure.

#32 High Rise: You're exactly right, and it's that disdain for human life - and specific lives in particular - that will keep that region and that culture from ever being truly free and civilized. You can't have an open and productive socieity when it's populated with people who will always consider a large segment of that population beneath them and deserving of mistreatment and death if they don't follow 'majority rules.' Any group who invokes their "God" in order to make up their own guidelines as to how life must be lived will never allow democracy or other freedoms that humans deserve.

OT,

I'm suprised this didn't come up in last night's asinine debate. Karl Rove has been outed...

Interviewer: Has anyone in the Bush administration confided in you about being an atheist?

Christopher Hitchens: Well, I don’t talk that much to them—maybe people think I do. I know something which is known to few but is not a secret. Karl Rove is not a believer, and he doesn’t shout it from the rooftops, but when asked, he answers quite honestly. I think the way he puts it is, “I’m not fortunate enough to be a person of faith.”

Reports from Iraq said a local security force witnessed the incident, but did nothing to try to stop it. Now her boyfriend is in hiding in fear for his life.

A large crowd watched as eight or nine men stormed the house and dragged Miss Aswad into the street. There they hurled stones at her for half an hour until she was dead.

Kurdish authorities have introduced reforms outlawing honour killings, but have failed to investigate them or prosecute suspects, added the Amnesty spokesman.

They don't even try to stop them when they are witness to it! This is culturally sanctioned murder. It is sick, and disgusting. Such "brave" men to attack and kill a woman who's crime was to love. How human of her, and how dishonorable- to feel human emotions! The gall of this girl! I hope her murderers burn in Hell!

Evil...Pure Evil.

#35 Hermann Minkowski

Originally I only knew about him from Minkowski sums in computational geometry -- I didn't realize until later that he was the one who came up with the concept of space-time.

/geek

#17 looking closely

I think I picked up this link here.

Posted something about this earlier in the week.

Saw the vid, didn't post it.

I'll write what I wrote then.

Rock in one hand.

Camera phone in the other.

Otherewise:

Harry Reid is a Mormon?

#38 JammieWearingFool 5/04/2007 12:54:49 pm PDT

OT,

We have a major public mental health crisis brewing.

22% of Americans are Insane, Believe Bush Knew About 9/11 in Advance

Many of them even vote, I'm sure.

I was shocked to learn that Loose Change and other similar 'films' are so popular. Supposedly, the stream of Loose Change was googles number one film for a good period of time...

18 brakes 5/04/2007 12:43:04 pm PDT

ROPMA's number 5 post on the 'booby trap girl's school thread has a link to the video. Wouldn't recommend it, but if you want to see what we are fighting, there it is.

Thanks brakes and ROPMA. I saw the video. It needs to be seen.

I understand why NoSubmission does not recommend seeing it. But if as a society, seeing a video like this disturbs us, how are we going to fight much less win, a war?

Charles,

I think they are very much linked to Islam, that is where they got the idea of honor killing and stoning their children to death from - as well as the Yazidi are interwoven with islamism like everything else thereabouts

It's all about controlling the women, isn't it?

A barbaric religion like Islam, Yazidi, or whatever couldn't survive if the women had the choice to walk. This is why, I believe, the Iraqi Security Forces, who were really just protecting the sanctity of their own misogyny, allowed it.

It's also why Islamists choose to blow up girls' schools.

It makes NOW's lack of a response to ANY of these "events" even more disgusting.

Aardvark

#46 Ben Hur

Savages with technology, it's a dangerous combination.

Honor Killing in Kurdistan

Yeh, I read that somewhere today.

30 NoSubmission

There were more than 8-9 men involved. It was a mob frenzied. And there there was the cheering 'allah!'.

And why would they be doing that, if they're Yezidi?

Something doesn't add up. There's a four way overlap, you're looking at an issue of Yezidi vs. Sunni vs. Kurd vs. Arab, and then there are two possible reasons why they killed this girl - is it because she's an immoral DISHONORABLE WHORE!, or because she had conjugal relations with a Sunni?

Michael Totten was in this region recently, I'll have to go back and read his article. He generally had a positive impression of the far north, but then again, I think I remember something about the poor treatment of women up there also.

These people are also culturally close to Iran where, as we know, stoning is a state-approved execution method.

International Campaign against killings and stoning of women in Kurdistan

You can sign the petition to the government of Kurdistan here.

I realize I may not agree with all the signatories on everything, but we certainly agree on this one thing - we are losing women. Women are cruelly treated and murdered. Women who object to slavery are being eliminated. Governments in the ME are either turning a blind eye or enabling this. It was wrong, it is wrong, and it will be wrong.

They are chanting 'allah' - allah is the islamic Dog God, these are very Islamicised people even 'if' ethnically they are kurds (who knows for sure) - the idea of honor killing which they committed is from the muselims

I think the girl was a kurd and thats why the muslims killed her

41 Sharmuta

Those murderers WILL burn in hell.

I just wish there was somehow the light kept on this particular murder because I REALLY think the President could gain some points for this war if we started to see that iraq WAS trying to be civil. The Iraqi gov't not working to get this out of their culture and our gov't not holding their feet to the fire in regards to this...bugs me.

#51 Aardvark

It's all about controlling the women, isn't it?

Yes, it's all about a bunch of sexually insecure and immature barbarians controlling the women under the pretext of "protecting" them.

49 Canadian Infidel
Its very graphic. See it if you want to. Probably important that you do.

I am putting myself in that girl's place and I pray for her soul and her last hated and violent moments on this earth. The men just have gotten such a sexual thrill at pulling her pants off while she lay there on the ground at that point unconscious and not longer able to shield the blows to her head with her arms.
OHGOD!

My search thingy ain't working.

Must find where I posted it this week'

#55 Cattt

I realize I may not agree with all the signatories on everything, but we certainly agree on this one thing - we are losing women. Women are cruelly treated and murdered. Women who object to slavery are being eliminated. Governments in the ME are either turning a blind eye or enabling this. It was wrong, it is wrong, and it will be wrong.

Why are nearly ALL of the "powerful" leftist woman in America, completely silent on this most serious issue of the brutal treatment of ME woman?

Pelosi?
Clinton?
Watters?

Why?

This is oh so 6th century...

And to think that everywhere in this world, where these "tribal" beliefs are perpetuated, we of modern civilization are supposed to step back and let them be faithful to primitive belief systems. (primitive almost always being misogynistic) They are, after all, more in touch with "nature", more authentic in their beliefs, more quaint.

We need to eliminate such beliefs and pull them kicking and screaming into modern civilization. Such hateful beliefs are not to be tolerated as some democratic tribute.

When the nuts are beginning to take over the asylum it is time to crack the nuts.

I'd love to know now what Bush has to say about these "wonderful Iraqi people" now. Or doesn't he bother to look at this stuff?

These people, and I use the term VERY loosely, because even animals kill for legitimate reasons, are sick, and I see no change in the future.

Bloody. F***king. Savages.

“Glorious” murderers of defenseless girls in the name of allah. In all of the days between 9/11 and now, I have yet to see anything that suggests that islam possesses a single quality that is not evil.

I need to go get some air.

This has a lot to do with Mideastern culture generally. It is true that Arab Islamists tend to believe such murders ought to be legal (Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan, for example, has worked to prevent any legislation to prohibit these killings), but the actual murders themselves are committed by Muslims, Christians, Yezidis, and probably other small minority sects as well.

#53 Terp Mole

Terp Mole 5/04/2007 10:03:26 am PDT

Sydney Morning Herald Whitewashes Radical Islam (Again)
#26 TimeQuake 5/04/2007 8:52:34 am PDT

So did I.

This is very interesting if you're up for some reading.
A master narrative for Iraq.
The Gift
by Martin Peretz

At his speech in East Grand Rapids, Michigan, last week, President Bush alluded to an observation by a Middle East scholar who had been to Iraq eight times since the beginning of the war: "A traveler who moves between Baghdad and Washington is struck by the gloomy despair in Washington and the cautious sense of optimism in Baghdad." The president's use of Fouad Ajami as his witness is a first strike, certainly among our readers, against the most learned American writing about the situation. It was natural for Bush to rivet onto even so hesitant a hopeful reading of the outcome of the struggles among Iraqis and between some Iraqis and U.S. forces. Still, the president's appropriation of Ajami's words does not nearly recognize the complex interpretive history he was trying to tell.

There are two recent articles by Ajami recounting a narrative that delves deep into Iraq's past. The first essay was in The Wall Street Journal of April 11. The second, a long review of a book by Ali A. Allawi called The Occupation of Iraq: Winning the War, Losing the Peace, was in the most recent issue of The New Republic. Together they are 10,000 words--beautiful writing, as it is always with Ajami, whether he is writing about the darkness of the Middle East or, in the rare instances when he can, about some light. He does not skirt America's errors in Iraq, and he knows them all. Indeed, he knows them not just as the tactical mistakes of Bremer and Khalilzad but as lumbering strategic--and sometimes even moral--errors inserted into the path of the whole saga of modern Mesopotamia. ...

...Ajami betrays some contempt for other writers on the war: those who understand or speak no or little Arabic and thus talk as foreigners to the Iraqis; those, actually most, of the "experts" who are ignorant of the religious struggle and its social and economic consequences through the centuries; those who see the fighting as mostly an Iraqi conflict with clumsy and, worse yet, cruel American fighting men and women. His view of the U.S. presence is, by contrast, ethically and psychologically reassuring--and believable. Abu Ghraib is not the rule but a rare exception.

He does not spend his time, like other Americans and the usual contingent of derisive European journalists, under U.S. protection in the Green Zone, in exactly the same palaces where Saddam hid from his population. He sleeps where Iraqis sleep and eats where Iraqis eat.

I write about this because I think that these 10,000 words taken together give the reader a more complex and reasonable version of the war than you have gotten elsewhere. We will run the two articles on tnr online [here and here] so that you can refer to them. I do not know exactly how Ajami believes this long war will end. But, from him, I do know why it is being fought.

Iraq in the Balance
In Washington, panic. In Baghdad, cautious optimism.
BY FOUAD AJAMI

Blind Liberation
A Review by Fouad Ajami
[not TNR links so you don't have to be registered to read]

Reading the Wiki link and #37, it is quite obvious that while not technically Islamic, they are very heavily influenced by that Stanic blood cult.

#49 Canadian Infidel,

I've thought about what you said, and I agree in part. Sometimes it's necessary to steel ourselves to look evil in the face. It helps us to be ready for battle. At the same time, we don't have to see every barbaric act. I remember a few years ago seeing the remains of an Israeli bus with shreds of human flesh hanging from it, and of course the Beslen massacre. I'm steeled for the fight.

I can't wait to see what NOW has to say about this. I'm sure they'll have a press release concerning it shortly.

/crickets

Ugh, I wish I hadn't watched that video.

There is so much evil in the world...

Seems to be a lot of confusion here on this topic.

What video? What link? Looks like it's been pulled, as far as I can see.

I'm not going to watch this video. I don't need any more weird dreams than I already have.

BTW- motivation for this video getting out? Could it be that the honor killers aren't true, technical Muslims?

Reading the Wiki link and #37, it is quite obvious that while not technically Islamic, they are very heavily influenced by that Stanic blood cult.

They aren't Satanists. They worship some sort of peacock-angel called Melek Taus. Of course, many Muslims and Christians view their pre-Christian cult (which is perhaps related to Zoroastrianism?) as Satanic. Many of the Yezidis, by the way, were very grateful for the liberation of their people. Unfortunately, that doesn't prevent them from doing what they've been doing for countless centuries.

Can we have a new thread please.

IT"S FRIDAY! I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS SOME EXCITEMENT. MAYBE A JOKE OR TWO!

#6 Haole

Jealousy is not very becoming. The left wishes they had their own version of Reagan. Just wait until Bill Clinton passes. The news anchors will literally be shedding tears.

Here's a link to Totten's piece on the Yazidi and their political and religious views.

According to Wikipedia many Muslims see Yazidis as worhipers of Satan:

In the Yazidi worldview, God created the world, which is now in the care of a Heptad of seven Holy Beings, often known as Angels or heft sirr (the Seven Mysteries). Pre-eminent among these is Melek Taus (Tawûsê Melek in Kurdish), the Peacock Angel, who is equated with Satan or Devil by some Muslims and Christians. According to the Encyclopedia of the Orient, "The reason for the Yazidis reputation of being devil worshipers, is connected to the other name of Melek Taus, Shaytan, the same name as the Koran's for Satan."[2] However, according to the Kurdish linguist Jamal Nebez, the word Taus is most probably derived from the Greek and is related to the words Zeus and Theos, alluding to the meaning of God. Accordingly, Malak Ta'us is God's Angel, and this is how Yezidis themselves see Melek Taus or Taus-e-Malak

Ironic considering they chanted the name Allah as they murdered a child.

Charles;

Deleted, but true.

It shall come to pass.

Khairi Bahzani, a journalist and activist of Yazidi rights, believes these events will only manufacture bigger troubles area-wide. "The area is waiting for several changes, especially the application of Article 140 of the Iraqi constitution. Meanwhile, there are groups that look for any reason to cause problems among people in the area, which consist of several components of Yazidi Kurds, Muslim Kurds, Christians, and Shiite and Sunni Arabs," said Bahzani.

The northern parts of Mosul province constitute part of the disputable areas. In the Iraqi constitution, the implementation of Article 140 in those areas will begin before a referendum takes place there. The referendum would have given the people the right to decide whether they want to be a part of Kurdistan Region.

In a bid to control the situation, the leaders of both Muslim and Yazidi communities in the area have called for calm and the authorities have pledged to bring the perpetrators to justice despite their initial failure to take action to prevent the murder.

Source: [Link: www.kurdishaspect.com...]

Hundreds of Yazidi rioters attacked the headquarters of the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) in the towns of Khana Sor and Jazira, west of Mosul, and took down the Kurdish flag and burned it, according to several Kurdish and Yazidi websites. The attacks came during a massive demonstration by the Yazidi community Friday protesting the threats against Yazidi workers in Erbil, Dohuk and Zakho, and recent religious edicts by Kurdish clerics sanctioning attacks against Yazidis, according to eyewitness accounts. Demonstrators pelted guards and Peshmerga forces with stones, and some stormed into the KDP headquarters destroying windows and furniture and setting several vehicles near the building on fire. Peshmerga troops reportedly opened fire and wounded three demonstrators, according to the Ezidi Inqad Movement.

Source: [Link: www.aina.org...]

There is no "honor" in Arab society, only PRIDE.

Honor is a western concept, it implies a willingness to do the right thing, to obey the rules, to conduct oneself fairly in work and play.

Pride is the desire to hold your head above those of others.

The two are often contradictory. An honorable player doesn't cheat at sports even though he knows he might lose. A "proud" player cares only about winning, and making the other guy lose.

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71 Ed

Did you read my link at 45? It's a real kick in the pants.

because even animals kill for legitimate reasons,

You might need to tell my cat that...

;)

#17 lookingclosely

Not very. I've heard of them, but I don't know much about them.

Charles,

Any opportunity for a Happy Friday thread?

-coz

OT Yay to Rudy !

Giuliani says Saddam paying for offenses By MIKE GLOVER, Associated Press Writer
31 minutes ago

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa - Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani said Friday that former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein is paying an eternal and deserved punishment for his brutal life's work.

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"You sure wouldn't want to be where Saddam Hussein is, where we helped put him," Giuliani said during a campaign stop in eastern Iowa in which he praised President Bush's war on terrorism but acknowledged that mistakes have been made in Iraq.

During a town-hall meeting with some 100 people, the former New York city mayor was asked to compare what Saddam and former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld did in the war. Giuliani paused before answering.

"Where is Donald Rumsfeld?" Giuliani said. "He's alive, writing a book and living the good life with his family."

He compared that to Saddam, who was hanged.

"I have a pretty good idea of where he is not. I have a better idea of where he is," Giuliani said to cheers and applause.

Though President Bush's approval ratings are low and most polls show the war remains unpopular, Giuliani rushed to the president's defense. He argued that Bush has successfully staved off another round of terror attacks.

"He deserves credit for that," Giuliani said. He conceded that there have been mistakes in Iraq, but argued that's far from unique in the prosecution of a war.

OTs: Conservative Bloggers Fight for Free Speech

It has been documented countless times that journalists in Denmark to a large degree vote for parties to the left of the center. The weekly Mandag Morgen has published a survey which labels 19 out of the 20 most visited Danish political bloggers as conservative or leaning towards the political Right. To Kim Møller, who runs the most popular blog in this survey, Uriasposten.net, the result is a natural result of the grossly lopsided coverage in the traditional media. Naser Khader, a Member of Parliament in Denmark and founder of the group Democratic Muslims, writes in his book Khader.dk about Westerners who passionately hate Christianity, but are willing to make excuses for absolutely everything Muslims do. He dubs these people "halal hippies." Halal hippies seem to have gained powerful positions in the media and academia throughout the Western world.

Alarm bells in Muslim hearts

I currently live in one of the most interesting countries in Europe. As a Dutch writer I used to have the feeling that the major events were taking place elsewhere, but those days are now past. I am an inhabitant of a remarkable country, one that first of all is tiny and over-populated, that secondly has four big cities – Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Utrecht and The Hague – half of whose populations already consist of people of foreign origins, most of them Muslims, and that thirdly has recently witnessed two political murders, one of which was committed directly in the name of Allah. I am thus an inhabitant of a country that has all the makings of considerable social, political and religious trouble and yet has managed to stay calm. When I'm feeling optimistic I sometimes see the Netherlands, a small laconic country not inclined towards the large-scale or the theatrical, as a kind of laboratory on the edge of Europe.

Muslim woman wins headdress battle

A Muslim woman has won her battle with a supermarket in western Sweden which informed her that she could not work there if she chose to wear a headdress. The Ica Kvantum supermarket in Västra Frölunda has now made adjustments to its dress code following criticism from the Ombudsman against Ethnic Discrimination (Diskrimineringsombudsmannen - DO).

Mafias sabotage Stockholm economy

A new report has concluded that organized crime is putting the brakes on growth in the Stockholm region.

Government backs veil ban

Politicians at parliament are prepared to give employers the right to ban Muslim niqab and burka veils for employees as a result of yet another incident involving the culture clash between conservative Islam and the West. Odense municipality requested that the Ministry of Consumer and Family Affairs rule on a case where a Muslim woman refused to remove her veil for her job as a family care worker.

Malaysian state to use Islamic 'ghostbusters'

Malaysia's conservative northern Kelantan state is to deploy "ghostbusters" to perform exorcisms on followers of illicit Islamic cults, reports said Friday.

Kelantan's Islamic Affairs Department director, Abdul Aziz Abdul Rahman, said that the exorcists were well-versed in the Koran and would drive out evil spirits from cult followers who follow "deviant" teachings. The exorcists will also tackle Islamic enforcement officers who had investigated cultists and been converted. "Perhaps meals or drinks served to the officers were spiked ... Otherwise, it does not make sense how a person with strong faith can be easily overcome by deviant teachings," Abdul Aziz was quoted as saying.

#86 Mardukhai,

That's right. According to Catholic morality, pride is the sin of Satan, the worst sin, and spiritual pride is the worst of the worst.

It's time for GWOTARY: Global War on Terror and Radical Yazidis.

I swear I'm not this akak...shoot me if I am

PS: I have to go back to a very very boring "Pipeline Route Safety meeting" yaaah Raby a3teeny al-saber and alot of coffee :P ... be back later

[Link: myakak.blogspot.com...]

#15 mickthemick

I find it hard to believe that Sunnis would massacre non-Muslims in rataliation for a stoning.

Perhaps the Sunnis heard the report of the girl converting to Islam to be closer to her boyfriend, then being stoned to death. A Muslim being killed by non-Muslims would probably be enough to lead them to murder 23 people.

OT

Hmm, I notice the hate crimes bill isn't on LGF...

Here's Chuck Colson: The Thought Police with an interesting fact the MSM hasn't reported:

Moreover, according to the FBI, crimes against homosexuals in the United States have dropped dramatically in recent years. In 2005, out of 863,000 cases of aggravated assault, just 177 cases were crimes of bias against homosexuals—far less than even 1 percent.

45 Mandy=

OK, read link, and wonder about author's sanity.

Satan dictated the Al Jilwah directly to Yezidi prophet Sheik Adi in the 12th century. The Al Jilwah is the most important doctrine in Satanism and every Satanist should be familiar with its teachings. I asked Satan if the Al Jilwah was from him and he confirmed it was, but stated that the Muslims altered some of the Yezidi doctrines.

If these animals were so honorable and religious why did they pull this childs pants off during the stoning? They should hang the lot of them and outlaw their sick, twisted religious cult.

I've collected myself after crying inconsolably for the last half hour.

I will think of this girl for a long time.

God will deal with the rest. I have no pity for what will become of them.

republic

Why are nearly ALL of the "powerful" leftist woman in America, completely silent on this most serious issue of the brutal treatment of ME woman?

Pelosi?
Clinton?
Watters?

Why?

Pelosi: It would interfere with her shadow government

Clinton: It would interfere with her thirst for [more]power. Besides, I don't count her as a woman.

Watters: It would interfere with her judiciary committee subpoenas to White House staff

In other words, if it doesn't help them or further their cause they could give a shite.

O.T.: Documents Exposed by Egyptian Government Weekly Allege Ties Between Iraqi PM and Iranian Revolutionary Guards:

[Link: www.memri.org...]

An investigative article by journalist Mahdi Mustafa, published March 31, 2007 in the Egyptian government weekly Al-Ahram Al-Arabi, featured photographs of documents indicating that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki has ties with Muqtada Al-Sadr and with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.(1)

The following are the main points of the article:


Al-Maliki Calls to Withdraw Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commanders from the Iraqi Front in Order to Protect Them

The first document, labeled "secret, personal, and urgent," is a January 2007 letter from Al-Maliki's office to the Iranian Embassy in Baghdad, with copies to the presidency of the [Shi'ite party] Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq and to the Al-Shahid Al-Sadr organization."(2) In it, Al-Maliki requests that the commanders of the Mahdi Army, who have ties with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, be pulled off the Iraqi frontlines, in order to protect them from being arrested or killed. The following is a translation of the document:

"Secret, Personal and Urgent

"Based on a phone conversation with Mr. Muqtada Al-Sadr and [after] consulting with [Iraq's National Security Advisor] Sayyid Muwafaq Al-Rubai'i, in order to preserve our great achievements and in light of what the present circumstances demand, we ask to temporarily conceal the commanders of the Mahdi Army, who are connected to the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, [and to remove them] from the front line [of battle] in order to protect them from being arrested or killed by the American forces. [The names of the commanders] are listed below. It would be best to send them to Iran for the time being, until the crisis passes.

"In addition, [we ask] to send the commanders from the second line [of battle] to the southern regions, since we know that intensive efforts are underway to persuade the Americans to leave the situation [there] as it is. All administrative and security arrangements for the transportation of these commanders have [already] been made.

"We ask you to implement [these orders] and report to us.

"[Signed,] Nouri Al-Maliki, Prime Minster [of Iraq]

"[List of commanders]...

"Cc:

"The Iranian Embassy [in] Baghdad,

"The presidency of the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq,

"The office of Al-Shahid Al-Sadr."


Al-Maliki Orders Release of Iranians Who Entered Iraq Illegally

The two other documents presented in the article reveal that Al-Maliki ordered that Iranians who entered Iraq illegally be released from prison. The first of these documents is a letter from Al-Maliki to the presidency of the Iraqi Supreme Judicial Council, with copies to several Iraqi ministries, including the foreign ministry, which was asked to inform the Iranian embassy of the letter's content.

In this document, Al-Maliki presents a list of Iranians accused of entering the country illegally, and orders to "release them [from prison] and suspend all judicial [proceedings against them]... except for those who have already been sentenced..."

In the second document, Supreme Judicial Council President Madhat Al-Mahmoud confirms that 442 of the Iranians on the list have been released in accordance with Al-Maliki's order.


Endnotes:
(1) Al-Ahram Al-Arabi (Egypt), March 31, 2007.
(2) Al-Shahid Al-Sadr is a welfare agency founded by Muqtada Al-Sadr, named after his father Ayatollah Muhammad Muhammad Baqir Al-Sadr, who was killed by the Saddam regime along with his two sons.

{NoSubmission}

I won't watch. I can't after the week I just had...

. For the murderers, this obscene swarm is a religious rite.
Their exultations to the Bloodgod are mixed with grotesque growling and barking noises. Shia, Sunni or Yezidi- these Primitives are all of the seed of Ba‘alZЄvûv/Allāh.

{LoppyD}! I'm sorry hon! You'll kick next week's ass!

Please understand that the Yazidis are not descended from Arabs and this "honor killing" is clearly an imported Arab custom.

The Yazidis have been brutally percecuted over the years, and this is not typical of them. They do feel that they are threatened with extinction, and fear assimilation.

Some interesting info and speculation about Yezidism here:

[Link: www.gurdjieff-legacy.org...]

More importantly, because the Yezidis refused to have a written scripture, they were not given even the limited rights under Islamic law accorded to Christians and Jews as "peoples of a book." Unlike other Kurdish tribal groups, Yezidis could on the slightest of pretexts be regarded as outlaws, killed or sold into slavery, and their lands and possessions taken with impunity. It was not until 1849 that they were officially recognized as a legitimate people in an edict issued by the Ottoman Empire.

What do you think of Egyptian Government Weekly alleging ties between Iraqi PM and iranian revolutionary guards? Why would they print the story? Anyone know if Egyptian Government Weekly is a mouthpiece of the gov there?

103 NoSubmission

Huge comfort.

#106 loppyd

TGIF, lopps.

Someone up above mentioned about where are the powerfull lefty woman on this terrible subject. They mentioned Shrillary, Belogosi and Watters. Id like to know where is the most famous man-bashing woman in America on this subject, Ofrah?

She should be looking into this. Its all about abused WOMEN, correct?

Ofrah could use it for some more man bashing that her shows seem to revolve around as far as i have seen.

How come Ofrah? Whats that? Oh yea, they arent abused AMWRICAN women. You could give two farts about some poor as dirt Middle Eastern Woman, right Ofrah? Just like you dont care about youre fellow African sisters in Sudan because you wouldnt dare, dare say anything because its MUSLIMS who are doing all this abusing of MUSLIM women. After all, "Its their culture", right Ofrah?

No Lefty woman will breathe to a soul about this. As long as its Muslims abusing Muslims, they dont care. But heaven forbid if an American soldier shoots a Muslim woman loaded down with a bomb vest about to blow up some fellow American soldiers, OH NO! we cant be having that, right Ofrah?

The entire Left is full of hypocrisy.

{m}

It's already better. I am very lucky...

Ward Cleaver

Hi Ward!

Yes. And it's going to be a beautiful weekend!

I am just glad that my parents raised me to know what honor really is. Protecting those that cannot protect themselves.

#76 cartman

What video? What link? Looks like it's been pulled, as far as I can see.

I have it, from YouTube. It is grainy, but brutal. And they are members of the human race? I was sick after I saw it ,but had to see it through to the end, just to validate their evil. Want me to email it to you?

I am a mother and a Nana, and I shudder to think of what like must be like for a female in the cult of islam, but they also aspire to be homicide bombers, and wouldgladly murder any of my family, or yours..we are infidels, thank G-d. And as a Jew? My family and I have a target on our backs.

Here is a copy of the video if you have the stomach. Brutal.

#82 lawhawk

Here's a link to Totten's piece on the Yazidi and their political and religious views.

A good read. Thanks for looking that up.
Repeating link

animals...

It is nice to see in the video that they made sure her bottom wasn't left uncovered. That would be shameful. Sheesh.

ploome hineni

..her muslim husband was unavailable for comment, he is with his first wife and children

Where is her MOTHER?

To this day, if my mother thinks someone is messing with her babies she becomes a lioness protecting her cubs.

She would hurl herself in front of a freight train to protect us.

I see this and I can't help but to wonder why this young woman's mother didn't fight to the death to protect her daughter.

115 joiseymafia
The reporter who wrote this piece for the Philadelphia Daily News emailed it to me. She addresses that very issue of Western feminists suddenly going blank when it comes to hardcore women's life and death oppression in the middle east.

SOME WOMEN MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS
By DONNA BAVER ROVITO
Hirsi Ali: Does NOW really care about the oppression of Muslim women?
Associated Press
Hirsi Ali: Does NOW really care about the oppression of Muslim women?

ZILLA HUMMA Usman and Ayaan Hirsi Ali may be the bravest women on the planet.

Not brave like they might lose their jobs or be insulted for speaking out about workplace inequities, or they might get cold or wet demonstrating against "Bush's war."

Why do we need another thread so soon? Doing so would bury this evil act, and people need to see this story- the more the better. Yeah- this thread's pretty depressing, very uncomfortable- but this is the plight of millions of women on this Earth. God forbid we take a good, hard look at the realities women face, the kind of mindsets men have about them in various regions and cultures. Disrespect for women knows no borders, cultures or religions. And God bless Charles for showing it to the world.

They have a book. A very scary book
He told me about their “Bible.”

“Our holy book is called The Black Book. It is written in gold. The book is in Britain. They took our book. That is why the British have science and education. The book came from the sky. If you go to the British Museum you can see it.”

Western sisters failing the fight

On International Women's Day, where are the protests in our cities against stonings, honour killings or any other persecutions to which women are still subjected

LET it be recorded that in the last decade of the 20th century the brave and great movement of Western feminism ended, not with a bang but with a whimper.

Nebraska- Holt County, near Amelia, radar indicated tornado

ploome hineni

I guess it's all beyond comprehension for me...

I can not watch this video. I can not fathom people who do these things.

As a father of 3 girls, I have spent most of my adult life doing everything with an eye toward protecting my daughters.

When they were little, I used to have a re-ocurring nightmare of seeing my girls running across a busy road in traffic and trying to throw myself into the oncoming traffic to protect them. I would wake up yelling and crying each time. Finally I went to a shrink about it, who explained to me that it was just my normal instincts as a father, wanting to protect my children from the dangers I knew were in the world.

I can not watch the stoning of somebody's daughter.

For anybody who doubts that satan is real, go watch that video.

Well, lookie here. It's time for me to shove off.

Time flies when you're LGF deprived. :)

May you all have a lovely weekend.

133 loppyd

I know how you feel. It's hard for me to wrap my mind around it. I'm not sure about this specific case..but in other cases, the women are just so beaten down that they don't dare say a thing. I also have seen in some cases where the mothers are so brainwashed BY this type of cultish activity that they partake in it. They in fact DENY instincts to protect.

The Swiss Guard spotted near Navy Pier, ringing O'Hare... pikes at the ready.

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

By the way, if you want to drive a moonbat nuts this weekend, talk about how the market is still going up.

Stocks rise, gain on the week, amid merger-mania

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stocks rose slightly Friday, sending the Dow Jones Industrial Average to record highs and locking in solid weekly gains, after a weak April jobs report was offset by merger reports, including one that Microsoft Corp. was in talks to buy Yahoo Inc., and news that Reuters Group Plc has been approached by a potential buyer.

"The market is pretty much ignoring [the jobs report], while the merger activity and generally a very good earnings season is helping to push prices higher," said Owen Fitzpatrick, head of the U.S. equity group at Deutsche Bank.

Still, the market's nearly uninterrupted advance since mid-March -- which has taken the Dow Jones Industrial Average to new highs -- took a breather ahead of the Federal Reserve's decision on interest rates next week

#136

I know how you feel. It's hard for me to wrap my mind around it. I'm not sure about this specific case..but in other cases, the women are just so beaten down that they don't dare say a thing. I also have seen in some cases where the mothers are so brainwashed BY this type of cultish activity that they partake in it. They in fact DENY instincts to protect.

Women in these cultures often endorse this sort of behavior, not merely fail to condemn it.

#129 Jimash

Strictly speaking, that isn't true. All the manuscripts that used to be housed in the British Museum have been moved to the new British Library.

(I'm not saying that this Black Book is in the British Library, either, but it's definitely NOT in the Museum).

Factoid: I was privileged to do research for my Junior Honors Thesis in the original British Library when I was an undergraduate studying at the University of London.

# 93 Fjordman

"I am an inhabitant of a remarkable country, one that first of all is tiny and over-populated, that secondly has four big cities – Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Utrecht and The Hague – half of whose populations already consist of people of foreign origins, most of them Muslims..."

Yeah, wow, aren't we lucky. Today it is May 4, the day when we remember the people who died in WW II, Dutch, Americans, English, Canadians and all those sometimes unknown soldiers who made this country free again. We do this by having two minutes of silence throughout the country (except for certain areas in these above-mentioned big cities apparently), flying our flags at half-mast, and laying wreaths at war monuments.

The sad thing is that in this country now we have to guard those wreaths, as our "youths" tend to use them as soccer balls if given the chance. Wreaths will be guarded during the day, and taken inside at night. This circus will go on for a week...

Meanwhile,

Defiling the memory of the fallen

Tonight we remember our fallen. At 8 pm local, two minutes of silence are observed nation wide (or, that is the idea, anyway) and numerous ceremonies at WW2 monuments around the Netherlands will be held in the memory of those that gave their lives in the battle against a totalitarian regime that specifically targeted Jews, christians communists, homosexuals and anyone else that did not wish to submit to the hate-filled ideology of this regime (and for once I am not talking about islam).

Tomorrow is Liberation day in the Netherlands. And tomorrow, of all days in a year, will see the Fifth Palestinian European Conference (NL). The Palestinian Platform for Human Rights and Solidarity (PPMS), one of the organizers, justifies the date (NL) in this way:

On this day the Netherlands celebrates her liberation from an occupation and Palestinian Dutch want to use this opportunity not only to celebrate this liberation with the Dutch people, but also to ask the Netherlands and all her inhabitants to take a moment to remember the fact that at this moment many still live under the yoke of an occupation, allbeit by an Israelian occupier, but supported by the international community.
To emphasize the peaceful nature of this event, the organizers invited Palestinian PM Haniyeh (Hamas) to come to the Netherlands 'to celebrate this liberation with the Dutch people'.

Fortunately, the Dutch government has the good sense to refuse Haniyeh a visa. Thus it is that Haniyeh will attend the conference via video link. Another great islamic humanitarian, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Ikrima Sabri was also to attend the conference, but he'll not be coming either:
The foreign ministry reported on Thursday that Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Ikrima Sabri has decided not to attend the conference. He apparently withdrew his application for a visa.
...

[Link: kleinverzet.blogspot.com...]

I have seen stoning videos before. What was new to this one was all of the cell phone cameras taking pictures of the carnage. Murdering savages.

128 Sharmuta

Why do we need another thread so soon? Doing so would bury this evil act, and people need to see this story- the more the better

agreed

#127NoSubmission.

It makes me sick to hear the Left bleat like goats when an American soldier does his job and kills a terrorist. I could care less if that terrorist is a woman/man/child/Muslim/Christian etc. They are still a TERRORIST. They go out of their way to kill anyone who gets in their way and they care less who the target is and as such i have no mercy for the terrorists. They want to die, than kill them. Kill them as fast as you can, by the bushelfull, by the windrows.

You are giving them what they want, to be martyrs. I say grant them their wish and to hell with the Lefty crybaby traitors. If they want, they can go join their terrorist allies and enjoy a one way trip to the deepest pits of Hell.

The USA granted that wish to the Japanese kamikaze soldiers and flyers that wanted to die, and gave it to those SS soldiers who fought to the death, grant it to those Islamicnazis who want it as well. Whats the difference between them? None i say. But the Lefty throws that bullshit "poor brown people, oprresive white people" crap into it. What a lie.

Im sick of all this PC crap. My views may be harsh but we face an enemy who will grant us no mercy and would glaldy behead me, my wife and my children as i will not become some dirty Muslim and pray to Satan. So i say kill them first before they kill us. Just like the lowly vermin they are.

Some warm-and-fuzzies to dispel grimness.

Nice Puddys.

Here is a link to more of the story.

OT

Pope meets with Islamist Thug

Mr Khatami became one of the most prominent Muslim clerics to visit the Vatican since the Pope's controversial Regensburg speech which angered Muslims by appearing to link Islam and violence.---resulting in the deaths of many Christians (ed)

“For sure, a meeting with the Holy Father cannot be enough to heal all these wounds but at least we are making a joint effort in order to start healing these wounds,” Mr Khatami said.

and exactly what are you doing?...building Catholic Churches in the Muslim world, you filthy LIAR

I got through the first two minutes of the video. Of course, this is horrible that this young girl lost her life to this brutality and it took over one half hour for her to die.

But some other things struck me about this mob mentality. Did you see how many cell phones were recording this murder? In one shot, I thought saw at least three others photographing it. I also thought I saw someone with a long gun. It looked more like broken concrete rather than rocks/stones. It's almost like they hear some sort of "hey, there's a stoning over here, come join in" and they do, regardless of if they know what it is about or not.

This is beyond evil. Worshipers of death and destruction.

"...Though President Bush's approval ratings are low and most polls show the war remains unpopular, Giuliani rushed to the president's defense. He argued that Bush has successfully staved off another round of terror attacks..."

As much as I don't like Bush any longer, I do agree here. However, saying that, I think we are now going too far in the WRONG direction with "national security". They (meaning politicians in general now, not just Bush) want Americans to have national id's, while letting illegals pour through boarders that are wide open (and giving them every excuse in the book as to WHY they just NEED to be here and need amnesty), no sign of ICE during immigration demonstrations, and letting known terrorists (and groups that sympathize) roam throughout the country at will, and giving islam their way in the USA while falling for their "peaceful" line of BS.

143 mandymanners
Right back at ya.

OT
José Can You See?

Jose can you see
By the dawn’s early light?
Cross the border we sailed
As the gringos were sleeping.

What broad stripes and brights stars?
We like red, green and white.
On the day that we marched
We were gallantly screaming.

And the rally was where
We waved flags in the air
As proof in daylight
That our flag was not theirs.

Jose, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of weak knees
In D.C. no one’s brave?

#134 3wood

I'm with you. I couldn't bring myself to go watch the video.

I've seen the aftermath of such events, and will never get them out of my memory.

The sickness of this culture is way beyond anything I can understand!

Top

40 years ago in the USA what would happen to a white woman found with a black man in some parts of the country?

154 drool

Point taken, but you've got it backwards (and maybe a few years o/s that mentality).

"According to the website and footage from the clip a number of armed local police officers were present who in fact helped the crowd to kill the woman rather than preventing the crime. Sometime later the Iraqi army arrived at the scene and refused anyone entry including the press."

These people are savages. There is no other explanation.

#154 drool

40 years ago in the USA what would happen to a white woman found with a black man in some parts of the country?

Alien Abduction . Book deal.
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

#154 drool
Nothing. Interracial dating was common in 1978.

1968 was forty years ago.

154 drool

40 years ago in the USA what would happen to a white woman found with a black man in some parts of the country?

she wouldn't have been stoned to death

160 mama winger 5/04/2007 2:53:24 pm PDT

1968 1967 was forty years ago.

Mama winger, I was born in 68

Please don't make me 40 yet!

150 samhein

And Bloomberg has followed Rudy's lead on security

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Homeland Security in NYC
Con Ed gets cabbies to guard hot spots

"I just watch and make sure no one goes near it," driver Zafrul Islam told the Daily News. Islam, a driver for Brooklyn-based Executive Transportation, has guarded several hot spots around the city.

Don't fret, I'm sure they'll guard leaky sub-stations, transformers, etc. and protect the filthy infidels every bit as well as the 'Fwench' yutes did last summer.

/lay in some extra candles, just in case.

If MY daughter came home with a turbaned headed inbred and told me that she had a relationship with a Muslim boy I would,,,

/invite him and his parents over for a Christmas ham dinner before saying Grace to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

I think shrug is trying to compare the America of the 1940-1950's where there was the lynchings of blacks by the KKK with what the savages of the ME have been doing for 0hhh, 1400+years.

In his/her mind, America is the savage land while the ME is all flowers and love.

Nice.

#164 blackwater man
heh

165 joisey

Did you mean to say drool?

/You talkin' ta me?!

Surely Michael Totten "Israel is the enemy" does not approve?

I dated a black guy from high school in 1970 I guess it was. Nobody threw a rock at me.

I only went out with him twice though, because he tried to take off my shirt on the second date. That don't fly with me.

59 NoSubmission 5/04/2007 1:03:42 pm PDT

49 Canadian Infidel
Its very graphic. See it if you want to. Probably important that you do.

Hello NoSubmission. I saw it before I posted. Thank you for watching it too. And loppyd, have a well deserved good weekend.

You are right. It is important that we watch. My god-daughter is 14 and she has older sisters from age 19 to 24. I'll do my best to make sure that all of them see this video.

From brakes:

72 brakes 5/04/2007 1:11:52 pm PDT

#49 Canadian Infidel,

I've thought about what you said, and I agree in part. Sometimes it's necessary to steel ourselves to look evil in the face. It helps us to be ready for battle. At the same time, we don't have to see every barbaric act. I remember a few years ago seeing the remains of an Israeli bus with shreds of human flesh hanging from it, and of course the Beslen massacre. I'm steeled for the fight.

Most of us who frequent LGF already know the true evil of which Islam is capable. And all of us, like loppyd (have a good weekend, you sound like you've earned it), have seen these videos and we're allowed passes. We get it. They want us dead.

It's people like Rosie that need to see the videos of gays being hanged. My god-daughter and her sisters need to see this video to see that this could easily be them as NoSubmission felt. I've already accepted that we are at war and the war is just waiting to ignite. We all know that. The girls laugh at me as I slowly get them used to the idea that World War 3 is coming. I don't blame them. They are young and living in a great prosperous free nation. No one wants war. War is one heck of an inconvenience. But they need to see these videos to see that evil is out there, evil wants people like them dead. We are steeled. Others haven't even begun to accept reality. That's why these videos are important.

In 1966 my girlfriend was a Hawaiian and decidedly dark. Never heard a word. Only ones who tried to get us stoned were friends.

The act was not perpetrated by Muslims, but the fact that Muslim witnesses allowed it to happen doesn't relieve them of some responsibility for this girl's death.

#154 drool:

To the white woman, nothing, aside from perhaps stern admonishing from prejudiced Southern white parents. To the black man...

...death by lynch mob. (a little perspective. even at our worst, we didn't--as a nation--sanction murdering women over some jaundiced, sick concept of "honor".

Let's put 40 years ago where it belongs. We're Americans--we all need to quit living in the past.

acsound
an "african-american" woman.

Good article on Lynchings, along with stats here(no pictures):
[Link: faculty.berea.edu...]

A 17-year-old girl has been stoned to death in Iraq because she loved a teenage boy of the wrong religion.

Wrong religion, Oh Shiite, I thought it said wrong sex.. she deserved this attack?

/ So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

"Unless the authorities respond vigorously to this and any other reports of crimes in the name of 'honor', we must fear for the future of women in Iraq."

Iraq needs an iron leader capable of imposing order on the country's ethnic communities.

Na,

We cant,

We are going to take a couple months off for a vacation..

I won't watch the video. I could barely stand the photographs.

That poor child. I can't begin to fathom a mind that could do something like that...

...or stand by and watch.

The root story is buried.Muslims.

Maybe they should be called "horror killings."

First time posting, although, I have read LGF for a while, and enjoyed reading comments made by all of you, as well as by my husband PapaWolf.

There is not a shred of honor in killing.
How even more heinous that this should be perpetrated by her family, those who should love her most and forgive any mistakes (if there are mistakes) that she should make. As a human being, this appalls me, as a mother this to me is a very disturbing.

is a very disturbing.

Sorry about my horrible grammar. I should have typed ... is very disturbing.

#46 Ben Hur

Harry Reid is a Mormon?

Unfortunately, for the rest of us, yes, he is.

Did anyone notice this in the video: For some reason, her pants or dress had come undone and her bottom half was covered only in her underwear. Someone took a jacket and tried to cover her pelvis and legs while she was lying there and they were stoning her. As she squirmed, the jacket came loose and her legs became exposed again, and some guy again took the jacket and tried to cover her legs. Comtemplate that: the irony of trying to preserve a woman's modesty and keep men from ogling while stoning her bloody body to death.

#167cbinflux.

"You know who i am?"

"Yes"

"No you dont"

"You seen my pictures in the newspapers?"

"Yes"

"No you havent"

"I dont even get the newspaper."

Anaylize This

DeNiros funniest movie.

He makes the best mobster, i think slightly better than even Brando. Slightly

and yes i meant drool...my mistake as its hard for me to scroll back constantly as my eyesight is poor at best.

Sorry shug.

Yea yea, even the Joiseymafia has manners.

I saw what I could stand of the video and agree everyone should watch, at least a little to see the brutality of that region and the peoples of said locale.

I think it is more ethnic perhaps than religious being that many (maybe even most) of the peoples from that region are just bloodthirtsy pieces of shit, regardless of religion. Now, that hasn't stopped them from spreading their vile ways via religion to places like Thailand, Indonesia, etc.

But the reason we are still in Iraq is exactly to stop this from being commonplace throughout the world and I agree with earlier posters who said that despite how poorly Bush is managing Iraq - these "people" need to be civilized, or something... Wow, what an awful video. What an awful "people".

We need to give bullets to our troops over there and change the rules of engagement back to what we had in WWII.

This group will just not be pacified so easily.

If you had the stomach to watch this gruesome video, did you notice that the 'stones' included at least one cinder block. Since this did not involve a muslima's honor, I suppose islamic law did not apply . . .

. . . Article 104 of the Law of Hodoud (Islamic law)provides that the stones should not be so large that a person dies after being hit with two of them, nor so small as to be defined as pebbles, but must cause severe injury. This makes it clear that the purpose of stoning is to inflict grievous pain on the victim, in a process leading to his or her slow death.

In this case the cinder block didn't appear to speed things up either.

Notice also how many camera phones were taping this . . .Entertainment ME style.

Pig vomit deserves more respect than this culture. That is probably an insult to pig vomit.

Why exactly are we in the cesspool of Iraq? Seriously, why are our armed forces involved in nation building? Wasn't Bush against nation building? Are many of the Iraqis nothing but backward savages? Is much of this part of the world filled with nothing but primitive, superstitious, women-hating bastards?

Unfortunately, the answer to the last two questions is yes.

#61 republic 5/04/2007 1:04:22 pm PDT

Why are nearly ALL of the "powerful" leftist woman in America, completely silent on this most serious issue of the brutal treatment of ME woman?

Pelosi?
Clinton?
Watters?

Why?

Because they are nothing but fucking posers, frauds, anti-Western assholes. Willing to sell our traditions to the cult of multiculturalism/socialism.

#184 Protagonist 5/04/2007 4:16:09 pm PDT

Did anyone notice this in the video: For some reason, her pants or dress had come undone and her bottom half was covered only in her underwear. Someone took a jacket and tried to cover her pelvis and legs while she was lying there and they were stoning her. As she squirmed, the jacket came loose and her legs became exposed again, and some guy again took the jacket and tried to cover her legs. Comtemplate that: the irony of trying to preserve a woman's modesty and keep men from ogling while stoning her bloody body to death

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Fucking animals. Actually, an apology to animals- only human beings can become so depraved to commit this sort of monstrosity. Justice would demand all those involved in this outrage should be massacred, end of story.

Perhaps that's the best example of a moslem "extremist". One who would use a cinder block. Forget c4, beheadings, etc..

The way the MSM would talk, an extremist is a moslem who would pray six times a day.

Let's nominate Charles for Caliph! Maybe things would change.

OT but funny.

Dear Abby,
I am a crack dealer in Beaumont, Texas who has recently been diagnosed as a carrier of HIV virus. My parents live in Fort Worth . One of my sisters lives in Pflugerville and is married to a transvestite.

My father and mother have recently been arrested for growing and selling marijuana. They are financially dependent on my other two sisters, who are prostitutes in Dallas.

I have two brothers: one is currently serving a non-parole life sentence at Huntsville for the murder of a teenage boy in 1994. My other brother is currently in jail awaiting charges of sexual misconduct with his three children.

I have recently become engaged to marry a former prostitute who lives in Longview. She is a part time "working girl".

All things considered, my problem is this. I love my fiancé and look forward to bringing her into the family. I certainly want to be totally open and honest with her.

Should I tell her about my cousin who supports Hillary Clinton for President?

Signed,

Worried About My Reputation

Notice how excited the men are. Absolutely joyous. And don't forget her own mother set this up.This is the same hysteria that we see in Muslim gang rapes/castrations and car swarms. These people are savages.

#189 Aloysius

you ask why we are in Iraq ?

well, it's gotta be that Bush realizes he has two options

one is try to bring these sub-humans up to a modicum of human decency standards

and two is...well - I can't think of another reason but I can tell you the only other option is we fight them over here if it all goes to hell and we leave

I don't mean "terrorists" either
I mean people of that region and of the religion spawned in that region

and if we do have to fight them en-masse,
we have some serious genocide to engage in just to make ourselves safe and I think the civilized approach is what he is trying to do

just imagine what could happen if say a nuke went off in NYC or DC and say 500,000 Americans were killed and say a state or states were found directly involved - the retribution would have to be massive and ugly and who wants to go there ?
even though I feel strongly it would be right in retaliating - the horror of this video reminds me that death is not a sport to take lightly

I just wish he would give a little more of a nudge because the kid-glove-treatment is apparently not working too well and I would hate to see it come to what may

#193 myself

actually I think

"death is not a sport"
should be nominated for a rotating title on LGF some day as a way of sticking it to the muslim man

If only, if only, if only American troops were at that spot.

You would think the men in her family would buck up and say "This women is my responsibilty, I will accept the punishment." Instead they probably joined in the stoning.

Now we can expect NOW to condemn these killings, and make the absurd leap of logic that because women are mistreated in Iraq, America must abandon Iraq.

I hope Ryan Crocker has the good sense to call someone in from the Iraqi government and say "Look at this. America's patience is wearing very thing, and now this nonsense becomes news. If the Yazidi's want to guarantee their existence - because we both know Al-Qaeda and Sadr will wipe you out - you cannot pull this barbarity. And when we find out what tribal leader authorized this murder they will be held accountable."

This story makes me want to cry. I believe in our mission there, but so help me, as mom with a daughter, I go bilistic when I see this horse s#$t!

#193 Adrenalyn 5/04/2007 7:11:32 pm PDT

#189 Aloysius

you ask why we are in Iraq ?

Yes, I did ask that question. Although it really was a rhetorical question.

well, it's gotta be that Bush realizes he has two options

one is try to bring these sub-humans up to a modicum of human decency standards

Again, Bush had publicly stated he was against the idea of the United States being involved in nation building. As for building "a modicum of human decency" in Iraq, the Islamicists, Baathist holdovers, and assorted murderous thugs in the Islamic world need to be prostrate in defeat, just like Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan at the end of the Second World War...and that is not the case.

and two is...well - I can't think of another reason but I can tell you the only other option is we fight them over here if it all goes to hell and we leave

Right now, it is going to hell. Regardless, I expect there will be more war with these savages. The next time we should do it right; if it be war, let it be total war. In other words, teach them a lesson they'll never forget. Ever.

Liberals are funny people. They claim that they don't like catholics because of some wrong or violent act done in the name of the catholic church 500 years ago...yet they adore & defend Islam, a religion who carries out wrong & violent acts every day of the year in the here & now.

In other words, teach them a lesson they'll never forget.

That would be ideal. When we decided to leave every mosque standing to avoid "seething", it was a huge mistake. A mosque is as good as an ammo dump for these swine.

Of course they literally store weapons, but it's also where the sick, twisted scum preach their hatred to the next generation, and the next and so on...

I hope they are studying the video to make some examples, but honestly, every adult male in that town is guilty. Round 'em up.

Death by firing squad is fine by me. A firing squad made up of women soldiers, of course, and broadcast all over Iraq, photos dropped in leaflets, paitings commissioned...

#197 Aloysius

I figured it was rhetorical.
Agree 100% that we needed/need to make them understand that we are running the show, at least for now.

I think we should declare martial law and lock the place down. Only trusted police and military come out (and hope we have plenty amoing them we can trust, but that's debatable) then go building by building and disarm the place as best we can.

Anyone that resists is shot. Any group resistance begets and entire block or village leveled, depending on the situation.

Order should be restored though and it will only take an iron fist to accomplish it. Not words.

Late as it is, what is being done is not working and so we break a few eggs with the new tough approach but hey, we already have NO friends so WTF not ?

But I would not call this nation-building. I don't know what I would call it but potty training is about as close an analogy as I can think of at this hour. We need to put a giant diaper on the place.

That's it - gotta get back to sleep, er, I mean work. G'night.

JMJ I prayed for this poor girl and her suffering, and I did notice the cinder block, and that creep kicking her over, it in unimaginable that a human being was treated this way. My thoughts: where are the feminists, Thank God I live in America, I educate my daughter every day on this, gently of course
I have no words, I want to cry and vomit all at the same time.
OT for you who remember me, am now homeschooling my daughter after 5 tears of Catholic school and one horrible year try at public school. She rocks and we're good :)

everything is o.k.
hilllary will straighten this shit out.
honest.

with this and the majority pro-choice poll, lgfwatch are gonna have their work cut out for them

I live in a sleepy rural area in the Northeast US which is predominantly white middle class.
Last murder here was years ago but I remember it well.
An Egyptian family moved into a home on 2 acres and nobody took any notice until the daughter was found murdered and her father was gone.
He fled back to Egypt but not before he hacked up his 16 year old daughter for wearing makeup.
This happens everywhere in the world.

Between loving death more than life and killing your own offspring, my take is they will never be a part of the American dream.

#191 ROPMA

"So what's the name of your act?"

"The Aristocrats!"

Here’s an example of an “honor killing” (a horrible term for an evil practice) that is not linked to Islam or perpetrated by Muslims. In this case the Dark Ages barbarism was committed by members of the Yazidi religion, a pre-Islamic, pre-Christian pagan faith

Muslims should understand that this "honor killing" practice, which dates from ancient times preceding Islam, is based on jahiliyyah, which Muslim true believers regard as the ignorance that preceded Islam.

If Muslim true believers underststand that "honor killings" are part of jahiliyyah, they should draw the logical conclusions and give it up -- in their own thinking and practice, and in seeking to have the jahiliyyist elements of Islamic society that practice this barbarism also give it up.