I notice that it always seems to be former British officials who are willing to tell the truth like this.

they better get busy taking all the crosses off the flags then

Why are they revealing a number at all? Isn't that given the terrorists more information than they need?

“Our human rights come first. Yet, incredibly, our so-called Human Rights laws, and our enviable history of religious tolerance, mean that foreigners preaching death and destruction to our way of life are allowed to stay here because their own countries won’t tolerate such evil.”
______________________________________________

Well, that kinda sums it up.

probably more than 4000 in Luton alone

Britain has 1.4 million Muslims. A serious survey done for Channel 4's Dispatches programme, suggests 24% of them agree with the 7/7 bombings.

gosh, I wonder what they do with the al-Qaeda linked applicants they "weed out"

hang them?

Marvelous how these monsters use our own freedoms, laws and tolerance against us. When will the West fully realize that radical islam poses a genuine threat to our way of life?

It's called human rights fundamentalism. Europeans are not willing to risk our lives for our freedoms or our nations, but we are willing to risk our lives for "anti-racism" every day.

Police and MI5 were “still too underfunded and undermanned to cope with the task they face in the decades to come. And that’s how long this will last,” he said.

Not good.

Hard to see them.

Now, how much would it cost for 4,000 one way tickets to Saudi Arabia?

And how quickly could Parliment pass a law authorizing this?

Some things are very easily solved.

gee, could this someday lead to a diminished view of the benefits of multi-culturalism?

um, I sure hope not...

/not!

4K is that all? If I don;t know better I would have thought Muslims were peaceful.

Margin of error: %100

Punish them by forcing them to see Spider-Man 3.

#2 FriarsTale

They can replace it with a white flag.

Oh how they loved turning 5000 into 3000

and the 4000 to 2000.

The real question is, how many of them have been to Jihadi training camps, know how to put together a bomb and have the direct links to Al Qaeda needed to put together a successful act of terror?

50? 100 maximum. Still potentially catastrophic, but still a number that can be monitored, caught and jailed (as recent successes show).

I recall a similar situation in America during the 70's and 80's. Only it was Irish Americans supporting IRA terror through groups like NORAID.

There's a difference between being a hardline asshole supporter of terrorism and...being an actual terrorist.

No. 5 uptight

That would then be 336,000 one way tickets.

15 Fjordman

Hey, it wasn't that bad. There were some really good moments in it.

It's alright, they;re not talking about the British in their sermons.....

There's a difference between being a hardline asshole supporter of terrorism and...being an actual terrorist.

The difference is? Aside from a bomb belt that is.

#20: Oh yeah, where? The credits?

...al-Qa’eda-linked extremists were already trying to infiltrate the police and the security services and that dozens had already been weeded out.

You know the problem with weeds? The roots can run deep, so even when you think you've pulled it out, it grows back.

I never thought I would ever say this but, I hope that the Brits take notice of the French election.

So England will be a first test for the people of Europe? Will they give in to terrorism or fight back?

What would the English do to give in? Close down their churches? Deport all Jews? Enact sharia throughout the country?

What would the English do to fight? Crack down on the terrorists? Negate some of their human rights laws?

It'll be interesting to see how fierce the crack down becomes. If it does happen. We'll all be watching.

Is their criminal justice system ready for this?

Do you remember what a Category Error is?

I stopped. What had he called it? Category Error. Making the problem usolvable through your inability - or fear - of defining it correctly.

Up to 4,000 terrorism suspects and their supporters are active in Britain

So is this 4000 terrorism suspects, and then they don't exactly know how many "their supporters" there are?

Maybe 20,000 supporters of those terrorist suspects?

That's nothing compared to the terrorist supporters in America, who number in the millions.

I have the answer! (Raising hand waving wildly). Just keep playing this fantasy game that multi-culturalism and mad tolerance is more important than people's lives. Now wait for an appropriate number of Brits to be killed, maimed , blown up, heads cut off. Then react with righteous indignation drum up enough manly rage to throw off the bullshit Politically Correct emasculation and deal with your enemies.

That is your plan already right? Right?

Convervative Plan to deal with your enemies = Search them out and kill them.

Liberal Plan to deal with your enemies = Let them search you out, blow you up and kill you until some appropriate number known only to the subconscious mind of liberals is fulfilled, then implement the Conservative plan.

It appears the lunacy afflicting France has migrated to Britain.

(and left France?)

Police and MI5 were “still too underfunded and undermanned to cope with the task they face in the decades to come. And that’s how long this will last,” he said.

I believe that this is the same rationale used to not give mammograms to British women: there wouldn't be enough doctors to deal with all the tumors they would uncover!

Wow, was Spiderman 3 that bad? It made $148m this weekend.

to think that the cost of bringing the "fertilizer bomb" plotters to justice was around 50 million pounds...

... at some point the British are going to have to addopt the "shoot first, ask later" method of investigating terror plots.

What would the English do to fight? Crack down on the terrorists? Negate some of their human rights laws?

Ban Muslim immigration and expel Muslims advocating sharia.

23 fjordman

Look, I'll agree that there was that section near the middle where Parker acts like an idiot that was too painful to watch, but I know some people thought that was hysterical. I cringed terribly, but the villains were great. The intro was good, the ending was good. They could have pulled back on that middle section and I would have been happier, but I didn't feel like I wasted my money.

"...the true number was “probably nearer 4,000”.

I suspect the number is 400,000. That is the number of Brits who holiday in Pakistan every year.

Anyone else see that HBO show on terrorism last night? At least they did call the terrorist fanatic German Christians.

We are witnessing the suicide of a world power. (And I say this without smugness, since the US is doing the same.)
I'm beginning to think nuclear disarmament would be a good idea for the UK. It's now looking as thought it's just a matter of time before the muslims take control of the country, and along with it the military and its weapons. I think it will happen without a hot war.

Does this number include the ones working for the BBC?

#29 ploome

Who won, anyway? Isn't De La Hoya getting a little old? Wonder if Mirren sat close enough to get blood on her?

/yuck

#37 pat

Did not call them German Christians

#39 mj

I think they run the BBC.

#36: OK, then we disagree. I thought it was the most disappointing movie I've seen this year, by far.

[Quote]
...our so-called Human Rights laws...
[/quote]

By chance is he referring to the Human Rights Act (1998)?

Considering it is in article titled Britian's Rather Large Problem, I think it will be.

Has anyone threatened The Telegraph yet for using inflammatory language like 'hate clerics' and 'terrorism' yet?

Didn't a lot of that $50,000,000.00 spent on the fertilizer case get recycled back into the economy through salaries, purchase of materials to produce exhibits and the like and the taxation of them? It's not as if that money was burned in a big bonfire.

They can't help it.
Iraq radicalised British Muslims, says Church

Canadian infidel #44

Internment will be the least bloody of the course that society will follow.

The English will be called fascists if they take that position. However, if they don't do it, they'll get overcome by radical Islam. It'll be interesting to see if the Brits will really take some of the measures that Israel is being criticized for, now.

Context is everything.

#33 ward cleaver:
The test will be when Shrek comes out in 2 weeks. If it can sustain its numbers, then it really is review-proof. I don't think it will because the story really was weak and Dunst and Maguire's acting in this was putrid. When crowds in the theater cheer and laugh at the wrong times, you know there's something wrong with the tone and tenor of the movie. I think there will be a steep dropoff, not unlike what happened with the SW prequels. Huge openings, with dropoffs and disappointment - though the final tally still meant more movies to come.

Also OT:
Seems that Islamic Jihad and Israelis agree - IAF airstrikes were on jihadis on their way to carry out terror attacks. Not entirely a flying pig moment, maybe just a flying ham hock?

The British have a problem becuase they're underestimating the problem. The Americans have a bigger problem because we're not even bothering to define who among us are planning jihad or make common cause with the jihadis.

Times(UK) offers a glimpse into the abyss today;

The Islamist: Why I Joined Radical Islam in Britain, What I Saw Inside and Why I Left by Ed Hussain

...In organisational terms, Islamism is Leninist. The radicals, with their advanced consciousness, form a vanguard, and seek power in the name not of the supranational proletariat but of the ummah, the supranational community of believers. Reliant on cadres ( halaqas), fiercely destructive in debate, and desperately alert to “deviation”, the Mawdudis, Wahhabis, and Nabhanis are as fissiparous as the Bolsheviks, the Mensheviks, and the Socialist-Revolutionists of 1917. “The YMO are a bunch of losers,” Husain is eventually told. The time has come for him to hear about the Caliphate. We now rise up into a new echelon. This is a creedal movement vigorously suppressed in all Muslim countries, but not here – the Hizb ut-Tahrir.

It's because of those damn cartoons!

52 Terp Mole

Ed Hussain? What's next? Bubba Hussain?

Oh, wait. Edward Said.

Never mind.

#51: Spider-Man 3 was incoherent, poorly written and totally meaningless. Pretty much like the Koran, only without the camels and the beheadings.

Britian and LONDON specifically has been all bought up and is run by arab money if you dont live there just visit and within a second you well realize this - there are mosques on every corner and the place is infested with arabs & muslims - go there and be shocked people who lived there are fearful and extremely scared what the future holds for them

LONDON ARAB RUN and going done - they've pumped soooo much money tehre

Most of Europe has a better chance against the islamists than the UK

Europe is going to explode and burn in a cataclysmic clash of civilizations. It will be the second time time in our lifetimes that the world will end as we know it. Will Western Civilization survive? It will survive here, and be reinvigorated by a massive influx of ethnic European immigrants, seeking refuge from the ruins of their own countries. It will not survive in Europe.

I wonder how many are being monitored here in the U.S.?

Ward Cleaver

Mayweather won...split decision.

It is a sign of where we are that someone with the courage to call evil evil sounds like a voice in the wilderness.

“Our human rights come first. Yet, incredibly, our so-called Human Rights laws, and our enviable history of religious tolerance, mean that foreigners preaching death and destruction to our way of life are allowed to stay here because their own countries won’t tolerate such evil.”

Same as in the states. The only thing is, if the politicians REALLY wanted to, they could take care of those who they know are terrorists. The human rights law was never meant to cover known terrorist groups or supporters, at least I don't believe it was.

I say this because, it seems that they will stand up on other things when they want to. But on standing up against islam extreamists and muslims as a whole trying to push their ways, they don't seem to either want to, or have the balls to.

I maintain that if the politicians and the president really wanted to take care of this and even illegal immigration as a whole, they could tell CAIR and the ACLU to go to hell. But they choose not to.

Will Western Civilization survive? It will survive here, and be reinvigorated by a massive influx of ethnic European immigrants, seeking refuge from the ruins of their own countries. It will not survive in Europe.

There will be civil wars in Western Europe, that is inevitable. My bet is still Britain as candidate number one, but after Sarkozy became president, maybe France, too.

Could Western civilization survive in the New West, North America and Australia, if the Old West in Europe died? I'm not so sure.

Global warming brews trouble for beer prices

-CNN

I think they are trying to piss us off!

It's amazing what they choose as news coming out of Israel and the PA.

Thousands of rockets during a cease fire go unreported.

Hizballah is mentioned, not when they are in the process of rearming, etc, but when a report comes out about Israel almost a year later.

Honor killings? Nothing.

Palis taking accident victims and passing them off as "victims" of IDF actions in funerals? Nothing.

But this! This is important!

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

30 Jehu 66 Canadian Infidel

Yes, Jehu is correct, evil always overplays its hand, only then is it eradicated..

I have been reading up on the US Civil War. The slave interests could have kept slavery in the South forever; they wanted to extend it to all the territories. There's an example.

This time it will be a mess too, but good will win again.

Those human rights are just so darn hard to maintain when you're dead.

I guess global warming is my fault....

#57 mglazer

Britian and LONDON specifically has been all bought up and is run by arab money if you dont live there just visit and within a second you well realize this - there are mosques on every corner and the place is infested with arabs & muslims - go there and be shocked people who lived there are fearful and extremely scared what the future holds for them

Sounds like you just watched 'The Omega Man' and transposed it to present day British society mate. Makes me wonder what basis of evidence you have for such a statement.

TO: Charles Johnson, et al.
RE: Interesting 'Coincidence'

I'm currently going through a recently acquired series from the BBC, courtesy of the History Channel, titled A History of Britain.

By Simon Schama, a Jewish historian of England, it is VERY well done.

Last nights installment was titled, Empire of Good Intentions. It covered the period of 1830-1925. Special emphasis placed on the way the British government mishandled the Irish Potato Famine, the Sepoy Mutiny and Irish Wars of Independence. In essence describing the later two disasters as being (1) pretty much the same thing for the same reasons and (2) mismanaged by politicians in the most horrible manner.

It compared and contrasted the Ministry of Disraeli and Gladstone, pretty much damning Disraeli's and calling Gladstone a Prime Minister prescient of what would happen in Ireland if the lessons of India were not taken to heart....which Parliment never did.

Here's the KICKER....

Interwoven through this installment were comments about how different peoples react to different things. It pointed out the differences between the 'well intended' British rule of India as being, all too many times, heavy handed and hypocritical, which irritated the Indians to no end, leading to the Sepoy Mutiny of 1857.

He remarks on how, after India and the Irish sent millions of men to fight on the fields of Flanders, in the Sinai and Greece, after the Great War was over, militants arose in both countries to try and throw off British rule.

At the end, Schama comments that the relationships spawned by the Empire are still going on. Alluding that some of them are not 'good'. That if Britain wants to retain its liberal democracy, the British had better be prepared to fight for their ideals, not in Calcutta and Dehli alone, but in Lancashire and Derby as well.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. This documentary was published in 2002. It was extremely well done and I suspect the project was begun before 9/11.

"the fed up European population will be in the mood for blood."

Well yes.

And who will win then?

Not the primitives, who cannot field an army, float a navy or keep an airforce in the air.

It might not take very long.

Of course, faced with the presence of 4000 Islamakazis, ready to blow themselves up, British doctors have decided to take decisive action....and boycott the Israeli Medical Association:

[Link: ww4report.com...]

If they kick all the Jewish doctors and surgeons out of the U.K., who will sew the British back together after the next terror bombings?

whoa second device in Vegas?

Time for an Islamic terrorism tax, I think. With the revenue we can train extra armed, special-forces-trained police to hang around in Muslim communities, which are already self-segregated, and keep an eye on the fuckers. And when they inevitably start complaining that their right to privacy is being interfered with, we can feign sympathy and do nothing absolutely about it ('Oh dear, how sad, it really is...'), secretly knowing that it's for the best.
You had your chance for a crack at the whip, some, a significant proportion of you, fucked it up, and now we're going to have to be a lot more vigilant. And for the ones of you that are 'moderate', if there is such a thing - indeed a moderate Muslim, it seems to me, is a Muslim hasn't directly called for the West's destruction - then your beef is with those crazy degenerates who want us all dead, not us.

Vegas? Device?

Next vacation: Camping.

it took NEARLY two minutes?

and is it not possible that arabs could have booby trapped a body?

Not possible as a reason.

Israeliness is the reason.

But reports like this and ones that cover things like Israel marraige laws, a fav of SkyNews in Britain, are meant to smear and that's it.

I'm sure that some fucked up stuff, like animal brothels in Norway have more reason to be an international story.

Why this was picked up and sent out internationally while things that would truly affect the rest of the world are generally ignored.

TO: Ojoe
RE: And the Winner IS!

"And who will win then?

Not the primitives, who cannot field an army, float a navy or keep an airforce in the air.

It might not take very long." -- Ojoe

No. It will not take long. And, unfortunately, it will likely resemble St. Barts. Especially in France. They have a history and a flair for that sort of thing; Saint Bartholomew's Massacre, the Reign of Terror.....

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[The notion that outlawing firearms will put a stop to murder is contradicted by the nearest dogfight. -- George Bernard Shaw (paraphrased)]

78 akak

What?

82 Chuck Pelto

Thanks.

I'm off to work ...

The Northeast Intelligence Network has a Nevada investigator at the scene, attempting to piece together the details of the explosion. It was confirmed that federal officials have secured the surveillance footage from the garage and adjacent areas. According to our investigative source, a second device might have been found following the first explosion and rendered harmless via controlled detonation by bomb squad officials, although this has yet to be confirmed.

#74: Europe isn't dead yet. I wouldn't still be here if I thought so. We have been through rough times before. And besides, "Europe" is a big place. Even if some countries should go Islamic, most others would not.

Europe would have exploded already if most people here knew just how much the EU is selling them out.

Darwin Akbar

Unfortunately Israel wont counter boycott and will continue to export it's expertise on trauma cases from terrorism.

Funny how all the terrorism experts you see in the MSM are never Israeli, and how now, you'll see that British doctors, after one bombing (that they didn't get a warning about first ala IRA) they'll be considered "experts" and Israel's doctors who wrote the friggin book will be boycotted.

I hope they boycott.

Now the Telegraph's gone and done-it, Mad Murtha's going to be wanting to invade the British Isles.

/the foching idiot

My apologies for the bad joke attempt on #74.

Sorry Charles.

57 mglazer dropped his trousers, bent over and contributed this steaming pile of ill-informed, ignorant horseshit:

Britian and LONDON specifically has been all bought up and is run by arab money if you dont live there just visit and within a second you well realize this - there are mosques on every corner and the place is infested with arabs & muslims - go there and be shocked people who lived there are fearful and extremely scared what the future holds for them

LONDON ARAB RUN and going done - they've pumped soooo much money tehre

Most of Europe has a better chance against the islamists than the UK

Twat
Twat of the highest order

OT,

Oh good grief,

The stock market dramatic rise is actually evidence of an impending meltdown. We're all doomed! Doomed I tells ya!

The Dow's dangerous winning streak

Folks can be forgiven for rolling their eyes at general statements that begin: "The historical data suggest that . . ." But apply this to potential stock-market gains and losses, and people's attention usually perks up.

Recently, I decided to revisit a chart of Japan's Nikkei index from 1989. What prompted me were comments by GMO Chairman Jeremy Grantham that, for America's current stock bubble to burst, it may need to go parabolic, a la Tokyo 1989.

When I read that, I thought: Wait, the Nikkei did not go parabolic at the end in 1989. I was short that market in 1989 and held long-dated put warrants, so I followed it quite closely. In the final five months before its crash, the Nikkei was almost orderly, rallying about 20%. By contrast, the Nasdaq Composite Index ($COMPX) nearly doubled in the last five months before the 2000 crash.

Mr. Dow's hitting streak and history
In any case, after a little checking, I did find an amazing similarity between the last month or so of the rise in Japan that ended on Dec. 29, 1989, and the current advance in the Dow Jones Industrial Average ($INDU) (through April 27): Specifically, the last 32 out of 38 trading days in Tokyo were on the upside, with an initial run with a higher close on 19 out of 21 days, followed by seven out of 11, followed by six for six before about a 40% drop in the course of nine months took place. Recently, from the lows of March 5, the Dow closed higher in four out of six sessions, followed by seven out of 11, followed by 20 out of 22 -- for a grand total of 31 out of 39 days.

Now, I am not a big believer in analogs, but if the mind-set in Tokyo back in those days was similar to the mind-set that we're witnessing here today, which, by my reckoning, it is, I guess it's not impossible for that similarity to have some predictive power.

(Another interesting parallel to note, by way of Justin Goepfert at the ever-valuable sentimenTrader.com: The last time the Dow had a run of 19 out of 21 days was in July 1929 -- not exactly a great time to buy stocks.)

I'm not putting up any money on the back of this idea just yet. But I thought it was so interesting, I wanted to have it on my radar screen, and I assumed others would, as well.

Funny I never heard such pessimism when the NASDAQ and DJIA were rocketing upward under President Bill Clinton.

Weirod how that works.

#91 dirk diggler:

It's funny but the same media hacks were predicting a recession based on the mini correction when the Chinese market meltdown happened when the Chinese gov't cracked down on traders there. Of course, not only were they proven wrong, but the markets have proceeded to not only regain all the lost ground in that instance, but have gained a couple hundred points.

The markets like a nice steady and slowly increasing economy - that means inflation and unemployment are in check, the fed isn't likely to change rates, and business profits will increase. That's pretty much the situation we're seeing here in the States.

The big reason the Islamists can get a way with this is that their cause is wrapped in religion. Religious tolerance is a thread, which runs through all modern industrial countries in the West. Religious tolerance is more prevalent then religion itself.

This has nothing to do with Human Rights Laws or open borders. Even the horrible slant of the media is not nearly as bad as our culturally-hard-wired response never to question someone else's religious beliefs.

This religious tolerance is one of about 6 things which makes the West vs Muslim clash a historical "perfect storm".

TO: Jester6
RE: And....

"Religious tolerance is a thread, which runs through all modern industrial countries in the West. Religious tolerance is more prevalent then religion itself." -- Jester6

...what planet do YOU come from?

A college professor I know will not (to the best of my knowledge) curse a Muslim or a black or an Hispanic or an Hindu or a Wiccan or a anything else. But mention a Christian and she'll call down curses from a God she disavows on their head.

And that goes for Republicans, too.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Where there is no religion, hypocrisy becomes good taste.]

I think it is time to start sueing the pants of the politicians who are responsible for this. How about reckless endangerement of the population? Has a nice ring to it...

The percentage of UK immigrants to the USA are similar to that of canada

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

This will increase as the arab muslim culture dominates and takes over england and lonmdon specifically

The brits are getting ready to abandon ship and leave it to the muslim pirates

Lord Stevens also gave warning that al-Qa’eda-linked extremists were already trying to infiltrate the police and the security services and that dozens had already been weeded out.

My name is Bond, Achmed Bond. And Miss Moneypenny, put the hijab on, please.

And Mr. Q, take back this stupid exploding briefcase- get me the vest.

Where is my Aston-Martin camel?!

MEP says she feels like “strangling” Israel's ambassador

EJP Updated: 30/Apr/2007 16:30

Socialist MEP Véronique De Keyser:“I wonder how they are able to limit violence in the territories given the background." “If the Israeli ambassador comes in the future to speak of Israel’s security, I feel like I want to strangle him.”

STRASBOURG (EJP)---Belgian MEP Véronique De Keyser has told a group of her peers how she feels like I feel like I want to strangle him.”Israeli diplomats who discuss Israel’s security.

Addressing a European Left Group hearing on the situation of Palestinian political prisoners last week, De Keyser deplored the “passivity” of the European Parliament on the Palestinian issue, and hailed the “moderation and maturity” of the Palestinians.

“I wonder how they are able to limit violence in the territories given the background,” the Socialist politician said. “If the Israeli ambassador comes in the future to speak of Israel’s security, I feel like I want to strangle him.”

The event, held at the parliament last Wednesday, formed part of a campaign calling for the release of Marwan Barghouti, a Palestinian politician serving a life sentence in Israel for his role in several terrorist attacks.

Negotiations ignored

At the meeting the wife of Barghouti, a leader of the Fatah opposition party, called on the European Union to lift the embargo against direct aid to the Palestinians and to recognise the new national unity government.

“The international community has deplored Hamas’s victory (in last year’s election) but did nothing to reinforce Fatah,” Fadwa Barghouti said.

Ignoring the much-publicised negotiations between the Israeli government and the Palestinians over the release of kidnapped Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, she claimed the Palestinians were ready to exchange in exchange Shalit for Palestinian prisoners “but Israel refuses.”

French MEP Francis Wurtz, who chairs the European United Left group, announced that the appeal for the EU to recognize the Palestinian national unity government has been signed so far by some sixty members of the European parliament.

De Keyser also used the opportunity to call on the German EU presidency “to make a difference in its positions between the Holocaust against the Jews and the current policy of the State of Israel” and spoke out against what she called the “European and German culpability” on the Holocaust.

While stressing the horror of the Holocaust, she said: “One must wring the neck of the European and German culpability on the Shoah.”

[Link: www.ejpress.org...]

#11 Ojoe:

Now, how much would it cost for 4,000 one way tickets to Saudi Arabia?

Related question, how much does flying a C-130 or the Brit equivalent to SA cost? "Here, we've found something that belongs to you! Catch!"

Parachutes not required.

I have the strangest feeling that the UK is slowly beginning to wake up.

For years our left-wing political masters and the MSM have ridiculed those who tried to speak out against the Jihadi threat. Some years ago Margaret Thatcher was widely condemned for saying Muslims weren't doing enough to fight terrorism.

Now even members of the establishment have become worried. The UK is slowly but surely getting off its multicultural knees. It is vital to keep the momentum going, and to crush the unholy Islamo-left alliance.

99 amphibian

Not so harsh or Charles will delete you.

Land the plane; let them walk down the steps; I'm sure the rich saudi royal family can feed them all.

Dear British People,

I present a one-word solution to your problems:

"Expulsion."

Lord Stevens also gave warning that al-Qa’eda-linked extremists were already trying to infiltrate the police and the security services and that dozens had already been weeded out.

In a later statement by the new public relations director of Scotland Yard, Murtada Hida-Salami, Mr. Hida-Salami corrected the revised number of 4000 suspected terrorists.

"No, no, no. Two extra zeros were added to the number by mistake. The number is closer to 40 and they were all deported last night. The threat is vastly overspoken; there is nothing to fear. Allahu akbar."

Mr. Salami also assured Britains that a new division of the Yard, the al Taqiyya brigade will exclusively deal with all "threats". This will allow the remainder of police and security forces to focus on more important issues such as enforcing the new Green laws commonly referred to as "One Child and One Square" policy.

And this just in from Arizona:

Professor on Brink of Being Fired for E-Mailing George Washington's Thanksgiving Address

[Link: www.thefire.org...]

TO: defund_NPR
RE: One Child, One Square

"...focus on more important issues such as enforcing the new Green laws commonly referred to as "One Child and One Square" policy." -- defund_NPR

Why is it, when someone says, "It takes a village, to raise a child," I'm reminded of THE Village from The Prisoner?

I can see a child's face looking out through the closed bars of the gate, instead of Patrick McGoohan's.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Hillary is wrong. It takes a FAMILY.]

The BBC has just broadcast this Panorama programme: "Britain's growing racial divide".

#102 ErisLDysnomia

Dream on, they're pansies - they would most like expell themselves from their homeland

There's a similar irony in the fall of Rome. The old adage 'all roads lead to Rome' was a double edged sword. It allowed Roman soldiers to travel the empire, but allowed the hordes of barbarians to make their way INTO Rome. Our gov't should keep an eye on this one very closely.

The “infection” had spread out from “hot spots” such as Luton, the West Midlands and Finsbury Park in London and those involved in the fertiliser bomb plot case which finished this week were “ordinary and British”.

After all, what could be more ordinary than the desire to inflict the maximum amount of innocent deaths in Allah's name?

#18 uptight

The real question is, how many of them have been to Jihadi training camps, know how to put together a bomb and have the direct links to Al Qaeda needed to put together a successful act of terror?

The fact is you don't have to have been to a jihadi camp, know how to build a bomb, or have any al-Qaeda ties in order to carry out successful terrorism. A Transit van, a video camera and a carving knife is enough.

50? 100 maximum. Still potentially catastrophic, but still a number that can be monitored, caught and jailed (as recent successes show).

Yes, but the trick is detecting them in order to catch or monitor. With hundreds of thousands of Brits going to Pakistan every year, picking the few who go off to train in Kashmir or the Northwest Frontier Province isn't easy.

For instance, Siddique Khan travelled to Pakistan to train with al-Qaeda, and is thought to have been involved with the British suicide bombers' attack on Israel in 2003. In 2001, he trained with Jemaah Islamiyah in one of Hambali's terrorist camps.

That's besides his being known to al-Qaeda supergrass Mohammed Babar and being recorded discussing terrorism with Omar Khyam in the truck-bomb plot.

Yet he pulled off 7/7.

Just because there aren't large numbers of trained, skilled terrorists doesn't mean we can catch them.

I recall a similar situation in America during the 70's and 80's. Only it was Irish Americans supporting IRA terror through groups like NORAID.

There's a difference between being a hardline asshole supporter of terrorism and...being an actual terrorist.

There would be a similarity if Irish Americans had blown up the British consulate in NYC. In other words, the U.S. was never a target for the IRA. Britain obviously is for al-Qaeda and jihadis. Yes there is a difference between supporting terrorists and being a terrorist, but (a) Britain has both and (b) you need the first category to successfully act in the second category.

#109 curtlbc

After all, what could be more ordinary than the desire to inflict the maximum amount of innocent deaths in Allah's name?

That's multiculturalism for ya.