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-RetweetUpdate: The MSA at George Mason University

Mon, May 7, 2007 at 6:59:33 pm PDT

Following our post about the Muslim Student Association’s appropriation of a “Quiet Meditation Space” at George Mason University, Brian at Snapped Shot gives us some more perspective on how bad it’s gotten at the school: Some are More Equal.

We Christians, on the other hand, are not.

Charles Johnson over at LGF has taken note of something going on over at my very own George Mason University, which seems to be brewing a touch of controversy. Going there, I can attest that there is quite a formidable Muslim presence on campus, and that the Muslims do lay claim, fully, to the prayer areas mentioned in Charles’ article.

What Charles doesn’t mention, most likely because he’s one of the few conservatives brave enough to live in the state of fruits and nuts rather than the grand Old Dominion, is that the University also constructed ritual foot-washing basins in every bathroom of the Johnson Center. Guess which “pseudoethnic” group uses them the most?

(Incidentally, the University is also seeking a new Halal vendor for the campus cafeterias as well, since apparently the MSA can’t be bothered to arrange for their own vending contracts to come on campus. The previous vendor was kicked out due to health code violations—oops.)

It goes without saying that George Mason University is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Saudi government at this point. But trust me, folks, it gets better from here!

At present, after all of the kind dhimmitude shown towards Muslims on campus, the Muslim Student Association is demanding their own mosque-on-campus, which is fine, considering there is a Chapel. Of course, there is some slight difference between the MSA’s request, and the reality of the campus chapel:

For one, the Catholic Chapel is located on the far reaches of campus. It’s so unofficial that it’s not even listed on the campus map!

The proposed MSA study area? Well, they want it in the central building on campus, since it’s the “ideal” location for them.

To further illustrate the point, let me point out that the Catholic Student Ministry bought private land neighboring the campus, and built their own Chapel there with their own funds, and that of Catholic donors throughout the area.

The MSA?

Well, let’s just say that when they’re done with it, all of we Virginians will have contributed money to benefit them.

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1 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:02:07pm
2 Backstaber  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:03:56pm

Bend over America!

/sarcasm

3 Cartman  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:06:12pm

This shit has got to stop. Now.

4 Ghostmaker  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:07:16pm

A sad day indeed for my home state, and one of the formerly illustrious houses of learning Virginia has to offer. A friend of mine is moving to Northern Virginia, and it looks like I'll have to steer him towards my wife's alma mater, Mary Washington.

5 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:07:22pm
6 petey724  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:08:09pm

Anyone who uses these "special areas" need to swipe their ID card upon entry. Those that use these "special areas" need to pay extra tuition.

But this is just for the maintenance, if they want a mosque, they buy it...they want equal treatment - give it to them.

Please don't let this country follow the path the UK did.

7 bikeguy65  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:10:45pm

damn asians!

8 mbruce  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:11:33pm

ONce that happens they will forever claim that University as their official property.
Enough is enough.
Just say no to servitude.

9 Carridine  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:12:56pm

Yet another fine illustration of the significant, important and real CONTRASTS between Islam and the Baha'i Faith, the fulfillment of and successor to... Islam!

10 afdad  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:13:15pm

It's amazing how 'tolerant', and BOHICA acceptable this imbecilic multiculturalism indoctrination has infested our society. :(

I guess I'm getting old as back in my days on campus, these people would have found a 'blanket party' to be the least of their worries. If the younger generation happens to wake up, and consider some modicum of response to the buttsniffers, even at my age, I'll gladly join in. I've reached the point that I will not accept anymore that there is such a thing as a 'Moderate' Muslim. If there were, they would be leading the charge AGAINST these sort of appeasements.

11 dewie  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:13:39pm

The camels nose is in the tent !

Personally... "PC" sucks !
Screw PC !

12 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:13:57pm

The money quote from the MSA president...

John Lewis is an individual who, among other things, proposes the idea of full fledged war against those whose ideological background conflicts with American norms and standards. In doing so, Lewis demonizes Islam and Muslims, deliberately takes Islamic beliefs out of context, and advocates “immediate, personal destruction” for every Muslim individual and cleric who chooses not to renounce the Islamic State. Such sentiments should not only be condemned, but are truly frightening for people who value the principles of living in a pluralistic society.

The Caliphate is multi-culti!

13 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:13:58pm

They won't do anything to stop what is going on in these campuses until people start to balk at sending their teen to just any school and stop giving money as alumni.

People have GOT to start caring where they put their money. Capitalism works...just sometimes one must do some legwork to see what's behind the scenes and throw your dollars at the GOOD avenue, not bad.

Kudos to people like Charles and Snapped Shot among others that are shining a light.

Here is a start: Academic Bill of Rights

14 carbon footprint  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:15:17pm

Doctors Split on Hymen Repairs
I swear that is the actual headline.
Sorry for the early OT.

15 the_flying_pig  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:16:49pm

George Mason University would become the Al Wahhabi Muslim University if the MSA finally take over the GMU administration and convert them to Islam.

16 Clairevoyant1  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:18:08pm

George Mason must be rolling over in his grave to see these abuses of our Bill of Rights!

17 funky chicken  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:19:26pm

Speaking of "friends" like the Saudis, and pigs too

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

By KEITH BRADSHER
Published: May 7, 2007
HONG KONG, May 7 — A mysterious epidemic is killing pigs in southeastern China, but international and Hong Kong authorities said today that the Chinese government is providing little information about it, or about the contaminated wheat gluten that has caused deaths and illnesses in other animals.

The lack of even basic details is reviving longstanding questions about whether China is willing to share information about health and food safety issues with potential global implications.

But officials in Hong Kong as well as at the World Health Organization and the Food and Agriculture Organization, both agencies of the United Nations, said today that they been told almost nothing about the latest pig deaths, and been given limited details about wheat gluten contamination.

Because pigs can catch many of the same diseases as people, including bird flu, the two U.N. agencies maintain global networks to track and investigate unexplained patterns of pig deaths.

Hong Kong television broadcasts and newspapers were full of lurid accounts today of pigs staggering around with blood pouring from their bodies in Gaoyao and neighboring Yunfu, both in Guangdong Province. The Apple Daily newspaper said that as many as 80 percent of the pigs in the area had died, that panicky farmers were selling ailing animals at deep discounts and that pig carcasses were floating in a river.

There have been no reports of people becoming ill from the disease. But the SARS experience has left Hong Kong with lasting jitters about mysterious diseases in mainland China.

Medical experts said that the extent of the bleeding from the pigs, including reports of bloody skin lesions, did not sound like the usual symptoms of bird flu, but added that the pig deaths nonetheless needed to be investigated.

Two spokeswomen for the Hong Kong Food and Environmental Hygiene Department said that the Guangdong authorities had told the department only that no live pigs were being shipped from the Yunfu and Gaoyao area to Hong Kong.

A spokesman for the Hong Kong Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department said that there were no signs of suspicious deaths among Hong Kong’s pigs, and referred questions about pigs in Guangdong to the food department.

Both departments said last week, in written responses to questions, that they were not testing wheat gluten imported from the mainland for the presence of melamine scrap, a residue from the manufacture of a chemical used in plastics production. The presence of melamine scrap in pet food has been linked to the deaths of as many as 4,000 cats and dogs in the United States, and prompted the culling of chickens that ate contaminated feed.

China has allowed American regulators to visit the country and begin investigating the wheat gluten problem, after initially declining to issue them visas.

18 Deuce  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:19:58pm

Whatever they ask for and are given, they want more. They know only how to take, not to give, and not to compromise. To acquiesce to Muslim demands earns no gratitude and no respect.

19 Theseus  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:20:30pm

This is the multi-culti PC creed of the modern American college.

From the Creed

"We believe that all religions are basically the same,
at leasst the one we read was.
They all believe in love and goodness.
They only differ on matters of
creation, sin, heaven, hell, God and salvation."
20 American Soldier  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:21:04pm

#14 carbon footprint 5/07/2007 7:15:17 pm PDT

Doctors Split on Hymen Repairs

ROFLMAOPMP
That's funnier than an ER visit for a condom retrieval.

21 pat  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:21:42pm

It will only get worse when Muslims sucker in ignorant African-Americans who think Islam was their fore-fathers religion. Lewis is clearly a dimwit who thinks the Constitution is a whatever liberal thinks it is.

22 funky chicken  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:21:46pm

13 Highrise Yes indeed. My kids are nowhere near college age, but I am already checking out the colleges given favorable mention by these guys: [Link: www.isi.org...]

23 grumpy_old_soldier  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:22:29pm

Good evening, all:

Kinda gets the blood to boilin', down here in podunk, redneck Nelson County, Virginia.

Somehow, I REALLY don't think that Mr. Jefferson had this in mind when he crafted the Virginia Statute on Religious Freedom.

GOS

24 Ma Sands  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:22:33pm

Yup...exactly according to the game plan Don Richardson laid out in his 2003 book "Secrets of the Koran", that he wrote after intense research on Islam after his rude awakening on Sept. 11, 2001...

25 dll2000  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:22:57pm
John Lewis is an individual who, among other things, proposes the idea of full fledged war against those whose ideological background conflicts with American norms and standards. In doing so, Lewis demonizes Islam and Muslims, deliberately takes Islamic beliefs out of context, and advocates “immediate, personal destruction” for every Muslim individual and cleric who chooses not to renounce the Islamic State. Such sentiments should not only be condemned, but are truly frightening for people who value the principles of living in a pluralistic society.

To me that part is just as telling and what makes them so compelling and appealling to the left.

What would the ideology be that conflicts American norms and standards?

First you have to define American ideological standards - freedom, equality, the right to pursue happiness without undue governmental interference.

Then you have the people that conflict with that ideal.

26 Michael_K  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:23:15pm

This is exactly the scenario that played out on the McGill campus in Montreal. The MSA jawed about "discrimination" and "reasonable accomodation", yet amazingly, the administration remained firm. Every other religious group that wanted prayer space bought land off-campus, while they demanded prayer space in one of the more central buildings on campus for the sake of convenience.

Once again, tolerance for Muslims seems to require discrimination against all other groups. Worse still, society seems content to just accept it.

27 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:24:08pm

14 carbon footprint 5/07/2007 7:15:17 pm PDT

Doctors Split on Hymen Repairs
I swear that is the actual headline.

What a wonderful culture that would even put a seed into a woman's mind that this would even be needed for her to be *wholesome*. What a CROCK OF CRAP. Next thing you know, it'll be something the libs tout as hey, you must accept it because it's part of their culture..then we'll be excising all 4 yr olds.

28 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:25:40pm

Taxpayer dollars spent on religion? The ACLU will be all over this...

/not

29 funky chicken  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:26:47pm

21 pat you mean like Cassius Clay? I didn't know that Cassius Clay was a white abolitionist in pre-Civil War Kentucky, and that Mohammad Ali was an 1800s Egyptian king who was big into black slaving until I read Andrew Bostom's book.

Some Imam had an interesting sense of humor or something back in the 60s.

30 pat  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:27:39pm

#17 funky chicken
It is nice to know the ChiComs are reaping the ill wind brought about by their deplorable quality practices before people start to die. The FDA better start making foreign imports comply with USA law. A few indictments of manufacturers, import executives, and FDA personnel might get the ball rolling.

31 defund_NPR  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:28:24pm

Where the hell are the separation-of-church(mosque)-and-state fanatics from the ACLU when you actually need them?!

And what does Walter Williams think about all this?

[Link: www.gmu.edu...]

32 laxmatt1984  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:28:35pm

I haven't read the comments yet, but just so everyone knows...

The Catholic Church is not on GMU grounds, it is next to GMU, but it is not on the campus itself.

33 ointmentfly  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:28:42pm

Does the ACLU care if Saudi money is used to establish religion on American soil?...or just American money on American soil?

34 bcgirl  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:28:48pm

if they are equal to The Catholic's because after all, this is America, then they can have a little mosque and while they are about getting donations from their "friends" and build a nice litte Baptist or Lutheran or pardon me but (i say this proudly "Jesus freak" church with a nice white steeple too...what,, i am dreaming,, but not about the comming Christian persecution here in America, really, someday more than it is now.

35 Joan Not of Arc  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:29:35pm

Can anyone explain to me what any of this is doing at an institution of higher learning?
The Catholics have the right idea. They do it themselves and receive, for the most part, little hassle.
If public monies are used for the crybabies Muslims, then let the other students make their own demands of them. Part of it is their money, after all.

36 deacon  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:30:03pm

absolutly amazing.

I am glad that he wrote.

37 funky chicken  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:31:47pm

the isi's new book:

Since it published its first college guide in 1998, tens of thousands of parents and their college-aged children have come to depend on ISI for informed and independent judgments of the prevailing intellectual, political, and social environments at America’s top colleges and universities. With this brand-new guide, All-American Colleges: Top Schools for Conservatives, Old-Fashioned Liberals, and People of Faith, ISI provides a crucial supplement to its critically acclaimed Choosing the Right College. While Choosing the Right College covers America's elite private and public institutions, many of them hotbeds of politicized instruction and saddled with anemic curricula, in All-American Colleges ISI's editorial team provides personal, in-depth profiles of fifty highly recommended schools and programs. At each of these diverse institutions, students who identify themselves as religious believers, conservatives, or old-fashioned liberals will find programs that connect in a special way with the core values of the American founding and the vibrant intellectual traditions of the West—

[Link: www.isi.org...]

38 Angel  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:31:53pm

Scratchin mah head*..Gee I wonder how many shuls..aka synagogues the campus has?

Um..none?

39 American Soldier  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:36:30pm

#38 Angel 5/07/2007 7:31:53 pm PDT

Scratchin mah head*..Gee I wonder how many shuls..aka synagogues the campus has?


A better question: How many shuls are there in the KSA?

40 pat  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:36:51pm

#29 funky chicken
It is a sad fact that African-Americans are fed a bunch of lies about the slave trade and the Muslim attitude towards black Africans. I was aware ,of course, that the Arab word for a black is 'abed' or 'slave'. Only recently did I learn that all black males were castrated before they could enter the Ummah. Europeans demanded that their slaves be whole and as such have African derived populations.Castration is why Arabia is basically white. It is a very depressing area of research.

41 funky chicken  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:38:49pm

30 pat I've started checking my groceries very carefully. Canned and frozen foods seem to have country of origin stamped on the labels. I never would have suspected that we would import wheat gluten of all things.

How much wheat does USAID send all over the world in food aid? Why the hell should we import wheat products from PRC?

42 Catttt  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:41:13pm

The object of a preposition takes the fricking objective case!

Gaaahhht.

/pet peeve - I had to do it.

43 Carridine  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:42:20pm

Is Islam so poor, so materialistic and so filled with greedy, selfish people that it can find NONE among the Muslims, to share the cost of building a Muslim mosque?

Are Muslims so weak and stupid that they must accept the charity of kffir?

How humiliating!

44 Angel  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:42:42pm

American Soldier

A better question: How many shuls are there in the KSA?

Ha...good one!..or Churches for that matter.
Pfftt!

I demand a kosher caf at GMU..and it better have chopped liver and gefilte fish on the menu..or I'll be terribly "offended" and sue for ...um...gastrointestinal discrimination!

45 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:43:26pm

#42 Cattt
I've got a dangling participle.

46 American Soldier  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:43:27pm

#42 Cattt 5/07/2007 7:41:13 pm PDT
Grammarian whore?

/sorry- I could have resisted, but...

47 American Soldier  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:45:10pm

#44 Angel 5/07/2007 7:42:42 pm PDT

I demand a kosher caf at GMU..and it better have chopped liver and gefilte fish on the menu..or I'll be terribly "offended" and sue for ...um...gastrointestinal discrimination!

I'll just be happy if I can find some kosher MREs on TDY next week.

48 funky chicken  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:45:16pm

geez Catt was that because I didn't type "from THE prc? I figured pat would be able to grasp my meaning.

49 funky chicken  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:45:51pm

Sorry, but gefilte fish is a hate crime.

50 MandyManners  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:48:32pm

5 buzzsawmonkey

I Googled a bit.

[Link: www.gmu.edu...]

[Link: www.politicalfriendster.com...]

51 Angel  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:48:37pm

gefilte fish is a hate crime.

LMBO

ok ok ..just let the whole caf at GMU become halal ..after all...dont they aim to please? (our enemies?)

52 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:49:24pm
53 Catttt  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:49:26pm
#46 American Soldier 5/07/2007 7:43:27 pm PDT

#42 Cattt 5/07/2007 7:41:13 pm PDT
Grammarian whore?

/sorry- I could have resisted, but...

No, but if you use subjective case for an object of a preposition, I might come after you with a whip!

/:)

My other pet peeve is using reflexive pronouns when they're totally not needed.

Correct: I hurt myself.
Totally wrong: Myself will be collecting your finished test papers (duhhh). She went to the fricking movie with myself (ewww).

54 HeatherRadish  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:49:28pm
John Lewis is an individual who, among other things, proposes the idea of full fledged war against those whose ideological background conflicts with American norms and standards. In doing so, Lewis demonizes Islam and Muslims...

*blink*
Doesn't their own text flat-out admit that "Islam and Muslims" "conflicts with American norms and standards"?

*reading too much Kos, starting to pick up the methodology*

55 squarepeg  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:49:33pm

#17 funky chicken

The Chinese tweak, calculate, force, and FLUB every challenge they face -- can't get it right for gettin' it wrong.

56 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:50:08pm

Damn these cretins are tiresome.

/Islam, God's cruel joke on 1.3 billion people

57 Aloysius  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:50:12pm

I'm don't know who I can't stand more- the Islamofascist savages or the P.C. pussies who kowtow to the bastards. Both are dangers to Western civilization, although without the multicultural, leftist half-wits, the Islamofascists, illegal aliens and outright traitors wouldn't be much of a factor...

58 republic  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:50:32pm

This has got to stop, NOW!

I don't care what legal methods need to be taken this shariafestation has got to stop, NOW!

All I can think of is the Patriotic Americans who have fought, and fought and died for this great country, the way it was intended, the most free nation in the entire history of mankind, the blood that has been spilled protecting this Constitution, this country, and it is all being thrown away in a matter of heartbeats.

The time to act, accordingly, is NOW!

59 MandyManners  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:50:51pm

Karl Rove attended GMU. He was not graduated from there.

William Kristol is/was on the Board of Visitors.

60 rtheyserius  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:50:58pm

Ritual foot-washing basins in every bathroom?

Somebody has got to stop this.

61 finallyopen  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:51:07pm

islam is lame

62 Catttt  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:51:21pm

OT

You will not believe this. My Siamese cat is jonesing to go outside and eat catnip!

/BRB - yes, I am enabling him - he is very loud and cranky. You would too.

63 republic  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:52:28pm

When Charles figured out "Rathergate", it was HUGE news, all across the board, but now, Charles is posting a "Rathergate" equivelant on a daily basis, and America is sleeping, lazy, content to stay ignorant.

There must be a solution?

64 American Soldier  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:53:04pm

#53 Cattt 5/07/2007 7:49:26 pm PDT

No, but if you use subjective case for an object of a preposition, I might come after you with a whip!

Hmmm... well, a little bit of kink might be OK...

65 HeatherRadish  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:53:24pm

#27 Highrise


you must accept it because it's part of their culture..then we'll be excising all 4 yr olds.

I read Ayaan Hirsi Ali's autobiography last week--she was excised at 4 or 5.

LFG had a story a few months ago about a guy in Georgia arrested for excising his 2-year-old (he should have done it in northern Virginia, apparently).

66 MandyManners  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:54:31pm
67 funky chicken  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:56:31pm

well, nighty night lizards. Check food labels for that "made in China" stamp.

That pig disease sounds like porcine Ebola to me...shudder.

68 sharon  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:57:20pm

OK, this really ticks me off. Where do these people get off with their sense of entitlement? To cite just one ethnic group, when Montreal Jews wanted a hospital with kosher food and mezzuzahs on the doors, you know what we did? We built one. That's right, with money donated from the Jewish community. And now it serves the entire community, Jew and gentile alike. So build your own freaking chapel, people, with plentiful oil money from your Saudi masters.

Alright... rant over, feeling a bit better.

69 laxmatt1984  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:58:01pm

#59

Oh yea, GMU is home to a very conservative community.

Almost all of my government professors (I'm an international politics major at GMU) are right of center. It has among the most libertarian economics departments in America.

GMU is something of an oddity. It has a strong, influential conservative community, but also a strong, (and in my opinion, aggressive), demanding Muslim community.

70 funky chicken  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:58:31pm

63 republic sigh. The mayor of lovely Macon, GA recently converted to Islam...they call him "Hakim Ellis" now. Just like it's, ya know, normal.

71 squarepeg  Mon, May 7, 2007 7:59:03pm

#63 republic

My theory:

Dan Rather was a HUGE target. A public figure who'd been around for decades, an icon of credibility who turned out to be a massive phoney. MSA on the other hand is death by a thousand cuts, so no one pays attention to one teeny little foot-basin in a university bathroom.

I'm trying to think of a nice, juicy target in the private sector that LGF could bring down. Ideas, anyone?

(Could also be public sector -- my personal favorite would be L.A.'s racist mayor -- but it would have to be realistic. I don't think we can get Condi out of State.)

72 Aloysius  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:01:10pm

#57 Aloysius 5/07/2007 7:50:12 pm PDT

although without the multicultural, leftist half-wits, the Islamofascists, illegal aliens and outright traitors wouldn't be much of a factor...

Oh, did I forget to mention greedy Corporations and other various sons and daughters of bitches licking their chops for cheap, exploitable, uneducated Third World workers? My apologies...

73 chainring  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:01:29pm

Why don't the students there have the balls to go en masse to the meditation room for a ham sandwich luncheon. Why don't they stand up to these throat cutters or would be throat cutters. If people continue to allow themselves to be bullied by the likes of these animals then I have little sympathy for them. Why are there no demonstrations? Why are there no counter demands on behalf of the rest of the student body? Why aren't the associations of the msa printed up on flyers and distrbuted campus and city wide? The students need to push back.

74 republic  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:02:39pm

#71 squarepeg

I'm trying to think of a nice, juicy target in the private sector that LGF could bring down. Ideas, anyone?

(Could also be public sector -- my personal favorite would be L.A.'s racist mayor -- but it would have to be realistic. I don't think we can get Condi out of State.)

Almost any Democrat qualifies.

75 Crusader Rabbit  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:03:50pm

Were I a student there I would be peeing in the foot baths.

76 rhythman  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:04:07pm

fellow lizards...
are we in trouble or what?

77 Carridine  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:04:50pm

#52 Ploome Hineni: Well then, awright!


UNLESS the infidel recognizes the superiority of islam, and is subdued...

Let the Muslims DEMONSTRATE the superiority of Islam, and subdue all humankind with the Dynamic Force of their Example!

That will be SO much better than surrendering to VIOLENCE, the sign-language of the inarticulate!

78 republic  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:05:32pm

I am through with sensitivity!

I am through with tolerance!

I am through with political correctness!

Not that I ever was any of those, but I am through with them all!

79 Carridine  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:05:55pm

Urk...

SO much better than surrendering resorting to VIOLENCE

80 Cartman  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:05:56pm

#71 squarepeg

I'm trying to think of a nice, juicy target in the private sector that LGF could bring down. Ideas, anyone?

CAIR, of course. Technically not a private entity, but certainly privately funded. Charles has been as relentless regarding them as he was with Rather. It's a good place to start.

81 republic  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:07:33pm

#76 rythman

fellow lizards...
are we in trouble or what?

It certainly does seem that way.

There seems to be about 100 people in America, heck, the entire world, who get it.

It seems like we are on a run away train, with no way to stop it.

82 pat  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:07:36pm

#68 sharon
I believe Muslims are taught that humans who do not agree with their sect are animals to be raped, tortured and slaughtered. A review of Islamic history reveals that the cruelty Muslims inflict is unparalled since the time of Rome. they are truly opportunistic, dispassionate beasts,hence the attraction to vicious criminals and thugs. What other culture considers genital mutilation, a drill, stoning, anal gang rape or even gang rape, for that matter, cause for fun and laughter.

83 Daybrother  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:08:00pm

Northern Virginia is Jihad Central. Believe me, I know.

84 Carridine  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:08:07pm

#75 CR: (while taking care of bizness at George Mason U)

*casually looks to the foot-basin to the right*

"Say, aren't you Crusader Rabbit?"

*shakes once, zips, tips hat and leaves*

85 Flying Dutchman  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:09:10pm

New riots in Paris

The Swiss press agency (ATS) says it's new riots erupted in France for the second night in a row after the presidential election...

Clashes erupted again in Paris and several other fwench cities (Nantes, Lyon ...), cars, phone booths, shops (etc) where set ablaze while the "youths"™ chanted : "Sarko, fascist, the citizens will get your skin (your skin = your life = death threats)"

Read article here (in french)

86 pat  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:09:26pm

#75 Crusader Rabbit
And if you were from Japan you could claim a cultural prerogative pissing in the footbath. Quite the norm there.

87 republic  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:10:06pm

#83 Daybrother

Northern Virginia is Jihad Central. Believe me, I know.

Here I thought that maybe one day, I'd have to move south, to be around Patriotic people.

Now I'm not so sure.

I'll figure it out.

88 footballfan0786  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:10:47pm

#73 chainring, I was wondering the same. If they put ritual foot washing basins in a bathroom, why not use them as bathrooms..?

..footballfan

89 republic  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:11:42pm

#85 Flying Dutchman

New riots in Paris

The Swiss press agency (ATS) says it's new riots erupted in France for the second night in a row after the presidential election...

Clashes erupted again in Paris and several other fwench cities (Nantes, Lyon ...), cars, phone booths, shops (etc) where set ablaze while the "youths"™ chanted : "Sarko, fascist, the citizens will get your skin (your skin = your life = death threats)"

When they start passing out lead pills to all of these down and out total losers, they'll see things settle down.

90 Flying Dutchman  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:12:42pm

Hi Charles !

Just a little comment on the new cookies system.

I came back to LGF after a few weeks of absence and noted (read) cookies are now mandatory to login.

As far as I'm concerned I'm of course ok to accept cookies from LGF ... but ... it's fine as long as it's only from LGF (and some others)...

The problem with Firefox (and other browsers) is that it's only possible to set "accept or refuse cookies".

This means I tried in an other way, using a Firefox add on called "CokieSafe" ([Link: addons.mozilla.org...] that can easily allow some chosen sites to place cookies (or not). I also use the NoScript add on for the same security reasons.

Unfortunately this isn't enough to be able to login my account on LGF as your new Ajax system asks the browser to accept all cookies (not only from LGF and related), otherwise no login is possible.

I fully trust you and LGF, I would even let you a complete access to my machine but sometimes I visit sites I don't trust at all !

I can "live" with this and use another "LGF / Hotair etc dedicated browser" (Camino for now) but some others, non techies, may get in trouble.

Wouldn't it be possible, and safe enough, to only force the visitors to accept LGF and related (adds etc) cookies ?

Sorry if this may mean more work for you.

Best regards and many thanks' for all the fantastic work you do for us !

91 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:12:44pm

#80 Cartman

Dan Rather? Oh, wait...

92 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:12:44pm

#85 Flying Dutchman
Sarko Rulez...
Yahoo pic


Youths who clashed with riot police officers are arrested at the Place de la Bastille in Paris, Tuesday, May 8, 2007, following conservative Nicolas Sarkozy's presidential election victory Sunday
93 ISG(ret)  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:12:59pm

#69

The place I retired in is a small college community and yes is conservative. The professors for the most part are liberal, but if this was happening here we would be on the national news for sure. The community keeps a sharp eye on the happenings at the school. Sometimes you just have to stand up and be counted. The takeover will only happen if the students and community allows it. Is Walter Williams still teaching there? He should be able to help!

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94 Crusader Rabbit  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:13:19pm

I bet you all think it's funny that someone dropped a duke in the footbath.

95 shug  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:15:00pm

the University also constructed ritual foot-washing basins floor level urinals in every bathroom of the Johnson Center


/oops

96 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:15:19pm

#80 Cartman

Never mind... :( Was wathcing the hockey game and forgot that you were quoting somebody else... :(

97 Flying Dutchman  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:15:23pm

#89 republic

Unfortunately, I fear Sarkozy hasn't enough guts to solve the "real" problem... ;-((

98 finallyopen  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:15:29pm

A handy list of email for state Delegates representing Fairfax County, where GMU is located.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/usersguides/fa irfax/StHouse.html

99 pat  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:16:29pm

I am pretty sure Close Danger's uncle is on O'Reilly right now.

100 haakondahl  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:16:35pm

Cattt,

Caveat that if the object of a preposition is a phrase with a subject, then it is still subjective.

The trophy was given to whoever won the game.

101 MandyManners  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:16:45pm

#69 laxmatt1984

What the fuck happened to it?

102 Durendal  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:17:40pm

well at least they have a good economics dept

103 Carridine  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:17:49pm

#94 Crusader Rabbit: Footbath? FOOTBATH?
Are you crazy? There's a big t#rd floating in that, who would be crazy enough to wash their feet THERE?

104 finallyopen  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:18:22pm

Here is a handy site that can send all Northern VA delegates an email at the same time! From a transportation association website. Everyone send a note to the VA delegates from the region around GMU.

[Link: nvta.org...]

105 Daybrother  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:19:35pm

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
and [Link: www.militantislammonitor.org...]

Nothing has changed. It moves unseen.

106 haakondahl  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:19:38pm

#75 Crusader Rabbit

Would that more spoke so!

107 ciaospirit  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:20:08pm

#60 rtheyserius

Ritual foot-washing basins in every bathroom?

Apparently, washing feet is only part of the story.

The Islamic purification ritual, known in Arabic as "wudu," involves a 10-step process, which includes:

2. Rinsing out the mouth thoroughly three times, using the right hand (the one not used for cleaning private parts) to bring the water to the mouth.

3. Snorting water into the nostrils from the right hand, three times, to cleanse them of demons that Muslims believe reside there, clearing the passages of any mucous using the left hand.

This is not only gross but downright unsanitary although I'm inclined to believe the demons part.

Link

108 republic  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:20:39pm

#101 Mandy Manners

What the fuck happened to it?

I like you mostly, because you are direct, and don't mince words.

Ata girl!

:-)

109 squarepeg  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:20:42pm

#80 cartman

I like that. Bring down CAIR.

110 Flying Dutchman  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:20:50pm

#92 Killgore Trout

Even if the fwench put all their "building" capacity in prisons it won't be enough to "shelter" all the "youths" before a decade or so... ;-))

111 Durendal  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:21:03pm

#90 Flying Dutchman

you can set Firefox and most browsers to only accept cookies from certain sites

112 wanumba  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:21:38pm

#4 ghost
A guy to Mary Washington?
How about a guy to Hampden-Sydney College?
[Link: www.hsc.edu...]

113 republic  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:21:58pm

#107 ciospirit

This is not only gross but downright unsanitary although I'm inclined to believe the demons part

.

It's obvious that the demons never leave them.

114 laxmatt1984  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:23:02pm

#93

Walter Williams is still at GMU.

[Link: www.gmu.edu...]

115 Crusader Rabbit  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:24:15pm

This looks like a job for "The Mad Crapper"

116 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:25:46pm

Say it with me people — ISLAMIZATION. It is here, it is now. Don't waste time and money sending your kids to Leftist U. Send them to the library and read about Islam and how it spreads itself around the world.

/BTW, those deals make a suitable urinal in a pinch.

117 dammad  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:25:50pm

[Link: www.cair.com...] related story?

118 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:25:54pm

OT

James Lileks gets screwed:

As it happens, they've (the Minneapolis Star Tribune's) killed my column, and assigned me to write straight local news stories.

Bastards. Lileks kicks ass.

119 Flying Dutchman  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:26:37pm

#111 Durendal

you can set Firefox and most browsers to only accept cookies from certain sites

This what I tried but the system still refuses the LGF login, you must set the browser to accept all cookies... That's the problem.

120 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:26:40pm

Forgot the link to Lileks...

121 Shug  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:29:38pm

107 ciaospirit

so let me get this straight, they snort the demons out of their noses into their left hand.

I know what they do with the left hand.

So, using my training in Biology I can postulate the demon life cycle as a nasal-anal cycle with the left hand as a vector.

Demon out the nose
Demon up the arse.

No wonder they're all so pissed. I'd be mad too if demons were crawling up my butt and coming out my nose

122 dimestorenovel  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:30:04pm

#73 Chainring

I think that some students think that is cool to befriend and support muslims and their causes - enable their victemhood. The same goes with many academics - "we're so liberal and open-minded".

When I was a graduate student, I was chastised by other student for reading google news - I was informed that al jazeera was the cool news to read - it was "unbiased - the truth".

The students were outraged when a Jordanian student was not permited to enter the US from Canada to attend a conference - OUTRAGED!

How cool to be invited to a muslim student's marriage - yeah - ignore the fact that the women and the men were in different buildings.

When the war started last summer, a colleague said to me (paraphrasing) "holy cow - did you hear? Israel is bombing the shit out of lebanon". Yeah - no mention of the kidnapping or the Hizbullah shelling the hell out of Israel or the use of civilians as shields.

Just a few weeks ago, a history professor was chatting with me and complaining about the behaviour of his daughter - I think he thought he was being intelligent and witty when he said
he told her that maybe Israel will drop a bomb on her if she doesn't shape up.

Dhimmis.

123 deseeded  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:30:55pm

The time-bomb is ticking, eh?

I feel like it is only a matter of time before some wide-mouthed MSA rep crosses the wrong person in the bullying campaign and receives a serious well-deserved beating.

...then I fear the crackdown on all of us non-Muslims will begin in earnest.

124 ISG(ret)  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:31:11pm

#114 laxmatt1984

Sent him an email, asking just WTF is happening at GMU.

Top

125 ciaospirit  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:32:03pm

#97 Flying Dutchman

Unfortunately, I fear Sarkozy hasn't enough guts to solve the "real" problem... ;-((

Sarkozy said this according to Forbes:

"France will not abandon women who are condemned to the burqa," the full head-and-body covering worn by women in Afghanistan and some Muslim women in Britain and elsewhere, he said. He did not elaborate on how that would translate into policy.

Sarkozy was a member of the government that instituted a law banning head scarves and other "ostentatious" religious apparel in classrooms.

126 ciaospirit  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:33:59pm

#121 Shug

That is funny! Thanks for a much needed good laugh.

127 Daybrother  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:34:04pm

This story is very old but, I repeat myself, nothing has changed in Northern Va. since then. Everything is but silent. [Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

Goodnight BG wherever you are.

128 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:34:21pm

#107 ciaospirit

Snorting water into the nostrils from the right hand, three times, to cleanse them of demons that Muslims believe reside there, clearing the passages of any mucous using the left hand.

Jala neti Is quite nice. you should try it.

129 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:34:25pm

101 MandyManners 5/07/2007 8:16:45 pm PDT

What the fuck happened to it?

HAHHAHAHAHA..I just have such respect for directness...I'm wierd like that.

130 ISG(ret)  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:34:37pm

#121 Shug

That was good! ROFLMAO

131 Noam Sayin'  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:34:43pm

Christheprofessor

As it happens, they've killed my column, and assigned me to write straight local news stories.

Really.

People who read Lileks know just how funny that line is.

I read his blog more than I read his columns over at the Star & Sickle. But he and Katherine Kersten are about the only thing I read there.

132 goodbye_natalie  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:35:31pm

Let them use the toilets...

They can start by soaking their heads first.

133 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:35:59pm

116 Kreuzueber Halbmond 5/07/2007 8:25:46 pm PDT

Say it with me people — ISLAMIZATION. It is here, it is now. Don't waste time and money sending your kids to Leftist U.


Preach it! No more leftist U's get our money!

134 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:37:02pm

101 MandyManners 5/07/2007 8:16:45 pm PDT

Can you like get a pager and come into the lounge when we have trolls in there?

I think I would pay for that service lol.

135 danger close  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:37:07pm

#99 pat

What was his name?

136 Daybrother  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:37:21pm

This story is very old but, I repeat myself, nothing has changed in Northern Va. since then. Everything is but silent. [Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

Goodnight BG wherever you are.

137 ciaospirit  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:38:38pm

#128 Killgore

Jala neti Is quite nice. you should try it.

Does this mean someone thinks I have demons? :-)

Actually, no matter how nice it is, it should be done at home and not in public facilities.

138 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:40:00pm

#131 Noam

He really is one of the funniest columnists I've ever read... There is an e-mail address in the link if you want to send a complaint about his cancellation...

139 Noam Sayin'  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:42:26pm

CtP

The Star Tribune is already very familiar with my suggestions.

140 MandyManners  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:42:52pm

108 republic

#101 Mandy Manners

What the fuck happened to it?

I like you mostly, because you are direct, and don't mince words.

Ata girl!

:-)


Atta' WOMAN, is more like it, sir.

That is all.

141 danger close  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:43:06pm

If it was Rev. Gene McIntosh, that isn't my uncle. My uncle pastors a different but equally devastated church in Greensburg.

Toujours Pret

142 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:43:19pm

#139 Noam

Heh. Are you implying that they are ignoring you?

143 Kaintuck  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:43:54pm

But we must not be judgemental. This is only proper with the diculturalmultiversityism thing. And if they do try to kill us, they're only Bombs of Peace!

/gack

144 danger close  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:44:07pm

It was nice of you to notice though.

Thanks.

145 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:45:38pm

#141 danger close

Prayers on the way up for your uncle, his parish, and all those affected by that most heinous of tornadoes...

146 Flying Dutchman  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:45:49pm

#125 ciaospirit

I know... I fear it's just propaganda... Sarkozy may do something but don't think he is the "solution". He's rather a part of the problem, he created the CFCM and UOIF (muslim brotherhood related, worse than CAIR etc).

I know the situation pretty well as I live close to the fwench border (Switzerland)

Don't get blinded by the CNN propaganda !

147 Kulhwch  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:46:09pm

    I love Brian's George Orwell reference:

Some are More Equal.

... not just because it's Orwell, but because the inference of what kinds of animal the MSA people are ... if you don't recall, check it out for yourself, it's about halfway down the page ...

LOL!

}:)     [Sad about Boxer, though ... ]

148 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:48:24pm

#146 Flying Dutchman

Yeah I think it was basically voting for the lesser of two evils from afar..my perspective.

I look forwards to your input as time goes on...on what is going on over there as he leads.

Good to see you!

149 MandyManners  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:48:39pm

Oh, good gravy.

Islam, you cannot succeed in hiding your cult's goals.

WE SEE YOU.

150 lucius septimius  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:50:43pm

# 22 & 37 Funky Chicken

I'm lucky to be at one of those schools on the ISI list. Two other sites worth consulting if you are looking for good colleges or wondering about campus rights. The National Association of Scholars has been fighting for years against political correctness and mediocrity. The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education provides invaluable legal support and is the premier First Amendment watchdog in higher education.

Note to prospective parents: ask questions, press hard, and beware of the "community life" folks. Student "services" is the place where the worst stuff is happening.

151 danger close  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:50:58pm

#145

Thanks Chris.

The death toll will probably increase over the next few days. The town had a large elderly population. Its been chaotic and trying to account for everyone has been tough.

152 Kulhwch  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:53:46pm
the University also constructed ritual foot-washing basins in every bathroom of the Johnson Center. Guess which “pseudoethnic” group uses them the most?

    The Frats?

    C'mon, tell me that the brothers are using these new low-level urinals for keg-busting?

    Please you gotta tell me this ...

}:)     [ ... missing the 70s something awful ...]

153 NickTheName  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:54:02pm

MandyManners is right: GMU is dhimmi and proud of it:

[Link: rak.gmu.edu...]

Talk about your "forgotten founders"

[Link: www.gmu.edu...]

Shameful how GMU's administration sold out its heritage. I wonder how much they got from the Arabs.

So is this what our founding fathers fought for?

154 MandyManners  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:54:44pm

Open Season
Music: Ward
Lyrics: Aborn, Nelson
String Arrangement: Eric Frampton

I speak peace when peace is spoken, But I speak war when your hate is provoking, The season is open 24-7-365, Man up yo time to ride, No need to hide behind slogans of deceit, Claiming that you're a religion of peace, We just don't believe you, We can clearly see through, The madness that you're feeding your people, Jihad the cry of your unholy war, Using the willing, the weak and poor, From birth drowning in propaganda, rhetoric and slander, All we can say is damn ya

My forefathers fought and died for this here
I'm stronger than your war of fear
Are we clear?
If you step in my hood
It's understood
It's open season

I don't need a faith that's blind, Where death and hate bring me peace of mind, With views that are stuck deep in the seventh century, So much sand in your eyes to blind to see, The venom that you leaders preach, Is the path to your own destruction, Your own demise, You might say that I don't understand but your disgust for me is what I realize, Surprise!
Your homicidal ways has got the whole world watching, Whole world scoping, So if you bring it to my home base, Best believe it, The season's open

I see you, Hell yeah I see you, Motherfucker naw, I don't wanna be you, If you come to my place, I'll drop more than just some bass, Yo you'll get a taste of a, Sick motherfucker from the Dirty, I ain't worrying not a fucking bit, I'm telescoping like Hubble, Yo you in trouble, Yo on the double, I'm wild with mine, Bring that style with mine, Fuck with my family I'll end your life, Just the way it is, Just the way it be, Do you understand? No matter if you're woman or man, or child, My profile is crazy, That shit you do doesn't amaze me, I'm ready to blaze thee

I don't give a damn what god you claim, I've seen the innocent that you've slain, On my streets you're just fair game, Like a pig walk to your slaughter, The heat here is so much hotter, And my views won't teeter totter or fluctuate, Step to me you just met your fate, And I'll annihilate, With the skill of a Shogun assassin, Slicing and dicing precise with a passion, In any shape form or fashion, Bring it to my home, Welcome to the danger zone, Cause your attitude's the reason, The triggers keep squeezing, The hunt is on and it's open season

It's Open Season

155 Durendal  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:55:13pm

#146 Flying Dutchman

also not expecting much from Sarko...but who knows maybe he will take a hint

156 friarstale  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:55:21pm

folks, the Muslims want the City of Rochester, NY to donate land for a mosque, too
[Link: www.democratandchronicle.com...]

I think it's all part of the Islamic/"Liberal" convergence to promote and legitimize Islam as "Separate but Equal" to Christianity and Judaism

the libs are trying to help establish Islam in the US as a "natural enemy" of the "People of the Book" whom both LLL and Muslims hate (yes, I'll use the H word)

157 Flying Dutchman  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:56:12pm

#148 Highrise

Thanks !

Good to be back, I've been "overworked" for a few weeks ... Hope I will be more or less relax till nex fall ;-)) Time to spend on the fight !

Everything looks fine around here !

158 FriarsTale  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:58:45pm

man, I hate to say it, but crazy old Michael Moore was on to something when he made Fahrenheit 911

the Saudis are buying up this country

(MM was a fool on a lot of other things, of course, and F911 was a piece of sh**t anti-US propaganda flick, but he was right about petro-dollars buying influence)

159 Flying Dutchman  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:58:58pm

#155 Durendal

You're right ! The only realy good guy there was Philippe de Villiers (2.5%)...

160 NickTheName  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:00:44pm

The Ras Al Khaimah Campus of GMU in the United Arab Emirates has an Office of Equity and Diversity Services:

[Link: rak.gmu.edu...]

The office "works collaboratively with other campus entities and the surrounding community to create, design and disseminate programs that bring diverse people together for the purpose of learning about and from one another and to share experiences and ideas. What is Discrimination? If one is treated differently on the basis of race, color, sex, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, age, marital status, physical or mental disability, or veteran status."

That's good to know. I'm not worried any longer.

161 kreuzueber halbmond  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:01:04pm

#133 Highrise

Preach it! No more leftist U's get our money!

I can laugh now, but it took me several years post graduation to exorcise the politically correct, multicultural demons from my brain. Take an 18 year-old mind, isolate it from the real world, feed it socialism for 4 years, add alcohol, and the result is one mixed up human being.

162 NickTheName  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:05:00pm

It gets better. University life at GMU's Ras Al Khaimah campus involves camels:

[Link: rak.gmu.edu...]

RAWK ON DUDES!

163 Flying Dutchman  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:05:02pm

Bedtime for me my friends, the birds are already awake in "old europe"™ ;-))

See you all soon here !

Regards !

164 American Soldier  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:07:34pm

#160 NickTheName 5/07/2007 9:00:44 pm PDT

The Ras Al Khaimah Campus of GMU in the United Arab Emirates has an Office of Equity and Diversity Services:

[Link: rak.gmu.edu...]


The office "works collaboratively with other campus entities and the surrounding community to create, design and disseminate programs that bring diverse people together for the purpose of learning about and from one another and to share experiences and ideas. What is Discrimination? If one is treated differently on the basis of race, color, sex, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, age, marital status, physical or mental disability, or veteran status."

That's good to know. I'm not worried any longer.

Gosh! Is there a Hillel on the UAE campus?

/later,all. Tomorrow is refit day before TDY.

165 freedomplow  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:10:34pm

Future generations of America.

This is the beginning of the battle that will determine your future.

166 Attaboid  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:11:45pm

ESAD MSA.

No foot basins yet at Concordia U.

167 CowardKerry  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:12:02pm

Wife is alumni, No more funds for you GMU...I will shit in those footbaths if I'm ever there.

168 fuseman  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:18:15pm
state of fruits and nuts

...and refried beans

169 CptNerd  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:20:13pm

You know, it'd be a damn shame if someone who went there happened to drop a slice of ham in each basin. Yep, a damn shame...

170 Student of Objectivism  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:27:22pm

#12 Killgore Trout

Another Islamist totally misunderstanding John Lewis.

If one says "I think Muslim terrorists should be imprisoned or killed, and governments that sponsor them destroyed without mercy", an Islamist takes it as: "I want to kill every person that calls himself Muslim on the face of the Earth"

171 Bob Munck  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:28:10pm

I live near George Mason, know many people who are students, professors, workers, and alumni there, go to quite a few concerts and other events on campus. It's about as Islamic as the state of Iowa; a big university jammed full of several tens of thousands of American kids. The article is complaining about a room large enough for a hundred people, this in a university with a student population of 30,000 and in a building of 320,000 sq ft (that's about 8 acres). Another way to describe the "formidable Muslim presence" might be "completely invisible." It's amazing how you people manage to get your tails in a twist over absolutely nothing.

172 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:32:34pm

#171 Bob Munck

Long time, no see. Back from training camp in Pakistan? Afghanistan?

173 Goodbye_natalie  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:33:26pm

#171 Bulbous Bob Munch,

It's amazing how you people manage to get your tails in a twist over absolutely nothing.

I thought you were conducting your new theory of Muslim relativity, building a space elevator, or working on patenting your Barbie blow up doll w/real pubic hair?

What foul wind drags you in the house of Lords tonight?

174 ISG(ret)  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:35:30pm

#171 Bob Smuck

Thing let them have your place, since you are close and all!

175 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:37:07pm

#171 Bob

The article is complaining about a room large enough for a hundred people, this in a university with a student population of 30,000 and in a building of 320,000 sq ft (that's about 8 acres).

That might be the author's complaint, but that's not ours. The point is, government is antangonistic to any Christian (or Jewish) faith, to the point that any Christian symbol is essentially anathema -- yet, we build foot-monuments, so to speak, for muslims. How does that square?

176 Maccabean  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:37:19pm

#178 Maybe they're fantasizing.

177 Maccabean  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:38:03pm

I meant #170...

178 rulewriter  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:39:05pm

I hear ritual footwashing basins are notorious for the pork bouillon residue they collect...

180 goodbye_natalie  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:42:39pm

#175 CTP,

That might be the author's complaint, but that's not ours. The point is, government is antangonistic to any Christian (or Jewish) faith, to the point that any Christian symbol is essentially anathema -- yet, we build foot-monuments, so to speak, for muslims. How does that square?

Bob's too busy to identify any truth to that question. He's still ironing out Newton's Laws of muslim force.

181 Rusty Bill  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:46:22pm

Normally, I do not react to "groups". That is, I do not like/dislike "group x", but there are members of "group x" that I absolutely adore/detest; their membership in "group x" is totally irrelevant.

In this case, I am willing to make an exception. Based on incidents like this, and the six non-flying imams, and literally hundreds of other, similar incidents over the last few years, I have decided that I dislike Muslims.

So be it.

182 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:48:58pm

#180 g_n

I hear ya... (though I meant antagonistic, not antangonistic)... Haven't seen much of Bob lately...

183 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:52:33pm

171 Bob Munck 5/07/2007 9:28:10 pm PDT

It's amazing how you people manage to get your tails in a twist over absolutely nothing.

HA. What is with you trolls tonight. Are you related to Le Trole? Both of you are in and out of threads throughout your posting career here..and usually it ends up with you insulting and then others calling you a troll. You do know that a history of your posts can be seen right?

It's one thing to disagree it's another to just be insulting whenever you post.

Move along trolly.

184 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:54:16pm

181 Rusty Bill 5/07/2007 9:46:22 pm PDT

Normally, I do not react to "groups". That is, I do not like/dislike "group x", but there are members of "group x" that I absolutely adore/detest; their membership in "group x" is totally irrelevant.

In this case, I am willing to make an exception. Based on incidents like this, and the six non-flying imams, and literally hundreds of other, similar incidents over the last few years, I have decided that I dislike Muslims.

I have never reacted to a group until after unfortunately they killed off the rest of their cult ie. jim jones, heaven's gate..but I tend to agree with you...I have a severe problem with muslims due to their koran that commands our heads be lopped off!

185 ISG(ret)  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:57:24pm

Hit and run troll!

186 freedomplow  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:08:58pm

Future generations of America.

Sharia is coming.

Weak Americans are starting to succumb to domination.

Sharia is infiltrating our country via our children and their educators.

Our media (called MSM in 2007) is trying to convince the American public that this battle is lost.

In 2007 we have a political party that has also given up... (In 2007 they were called democrats).

What will it take for you to stand and defend your country?

187 mjazzguitar  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:18:00pm

#75 Crusader Rabbit 5/07/2007


Were I a student there I would be peeing in the foot baths.

I heard about some American girls who were in Europe and didn't know what the bidet was so they washed their feet in it.

188 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:18:07pm

171 Bob Munck 5/07/2007 9:28:10 pm PDT

Don't leave us now, you wimp..I've been skimming through your posts for the past two years...and you are full of all sorts of insults for everyone nearly with every post..you are one sour piece of crap. Not much to contribute at all and all of a sudden you are silent?

yeah, definition of a troll no doubt. Long time Trolls have no life such as yourself. I find it odd that people who would visit a place to cause nothing but controversy and insulting think they could actually be of a normal mindset.

There are some people who post here regularly that I 90 percent don't agree with, but they don't come in here posting insultingly and I take them for who they are..people who have an opinion but don't want to see islamists take over..they state their opinion and talk...which I respect. And your respect would be where?

189 tradewind  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:20:44pm

/grrr/.
Charles, can you change my sign-in name to
GrittingTeeth...

190 tradewind  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:25:23pm

#171

It's amazing how you people manage to get your tails...


Oh no, you did'unt say YOU PEOPLE, did you?

191 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:27:46pm

190 tradewind

long time troll..he has several posts like that..striking out at people. He must get all pissy then come and post his aggression. His history tells all. Pissant.

192 Bob Munck  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:29:17pm

Here's a list of GMU religious organizations:

Ahmadiyya Muslim Student Association, Anointed Voices of Unity, Baha'I Student Association, Campus Bible Study, Campus Crusade for Christ, Catholic Campus Ministry, Chi Alpha Christian Fellowship, Christians on Campus, College Life, Crosspoint Student Ministry, Hindu Student Council, GMU, Immanuel Christian Fellowship, IMPACT Movement, International Youth Fellowship, Jewish Student Association, Korean Bible Study, Muslim Student Association, Lutheran Campus Ministry, Jewish Student Association, Latter-day Saint Student Association, Muslim Students Association, Patriot Christian Ministries, Shi'a Islam Student Association, Young Life

(It's pretty likely that a lot of those I didn't embolden, such as the International Youth Fellowship, are Christian). Doesn't appear to me that the Judeo-Christian tradition is being shut out. By my count about eighteen of them and four Muslim.

193 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:33:32pm

192 Bob Munck

It's good you decided to partake just a little. Tell you what, if you cut down on your insulting posts in nearly every one of them the past two plus years, we just may believe that you care about Charles' plight here..which is why we are here..remember?

194 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:35:11pm

#192 Bob Munck

How many of those organizations have their facilities paid for with taxpayer money?

195 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:35:54pm

192 Bob Munck

I still think your history of posts ..shows you as one hell of a pissant..but what do I know...people can search and read for themselves..lonely one.

196 Bob Munck  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:36:24pm
188: and you are full of all sorts of insults for everyone nearly with every post
191: long time troll..he has several posts like that..striking out at people.

Who did I strike out at? You people? By calling you "you people?" You find that insulting? Seems to reinforce my point, doesn't it?

Or perhaps you each don't like being grouped with the other posters here.

197 tradewind  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:40:36pm

B. Munck,
You can list whatever you like, but the fact is that GMU accepts federal funds, and I haved no desire to see taxes pay for ritualistic footbaths just to appease a cult's demands.
Let CAIR use some of their litigated loot to build a mosque on campus.

198 freedomplow  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:41:18pm

Dear CAIR,

Usually I keep quiet.

Your stupidity has gone to far.

CAIR is a HATE GROUP

199 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:42:34pm

196 Bob Munck

Actually,

You have so many insults to the lizard community as a class act asshole that I can't possibly post them all. I was gonna be a semi smart ass and showcase your best crap posts but there are too many insults to do that with.

Anyone who does a search on your name for the past two years..comes up with numerous insults.

Until you prove otherwise, you sir, are an asshole troll.

This is Charles' blog, not yours. He has a mission and it's obvious what that mission is and you do nothing to further that. People who come here and purposefully shit all over the posts like yourself, I think are lame. I call it like I see it. Your history of posts shit all over everyone.

Now if you want to change that..be my guest..but as of now, you are a long time shitting troll.

200 Bob Munck  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:42:46pm
#194: How many of those organizations have their facilities paid for with taxpayer money?

I looked up a bunch of them. They're on-campus organizations, list their meetings and events as being in university buildings. (Mostly in SUB-2, Student Union Building Two). So I'd say pretty much all of them.

201 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:42:56pm

#196 Bob

Regardless, what about my question? The government screams bloody murder at the hint of promoting Christianity, but has not problem with providing foot-baths for muslims... How does that square?

202 Sharmuta  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:43:40pm

192 Bob Munck

Doesn't appear to me that the Judeo-Christian tradition is being shut out. By my count about eighteen of them and four Muslim.

And how many of these Judeo-Christian groups are demanding special accommodations at tax payer expense?

203 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:43:48pm

#200 Bob

Link, please...

204 freedomplow  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:45:54pm

CAIR hates everyone that isn't a Muslim.

205 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:45:59pm

#196 Bob Munck

I've been net saavy since the bbs days...I know people like you..do you really think you fool us who have been on the net for awhile?

It takes a severely lost soul to post in on a website/blog where they disagree..for years on end.

You are worse than the come by night trolls..you are one lonely pissant. Make no mistake that I see it...plus 10 yrs experience..and the people here aren't stupid either.

206 tradewind  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:46:46pm

#191

(thanks... this one...the topic... just strikes me as wrong on sooo many levels.
Post was in response to amazement that anyone purporting to live anywhere near DC hasn't had the

You People

PC'd out of 'em by now, and I shoulda /sarc/'d it, I guess).

207 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:50:54pm

#200 Bob Munck

I looked up a bunch of them. They're on-campus organizations, list their meetings and events as being in university buildings. (

They are meeting in university buildings -- not harm, no foul. What this post is about is building, at taxpayer expense, specific facilities to accomodate one particular religion. Compare and contrast with the antagonisitic attitude toward any other religion...

208 Sharmuta  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:51:09pm

200 Bob Munck

They're on-campus organizations, list their meetings and events as being in university buildings. (Mostly in SUB-2, Student Union Building Two)

OK- of these groups how many are demanding these SUB-2 rooms be altered to fit their needs at tax payer expence? And how many are saying that no other group can use these spaces?

209 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:52:48pm

200 Bob Munck 5/07/2007 10:42:46 pm PDT


I looked up a bunch of them. They're on-campus organizations, list their meetings and events as being in university buildings

why are you looking them up? You went out of your way to brag how you live so close to them..how about being a good model lizard and go on campus and demand the answer? What is this looking up shit? I can do that from california you lazy. You are proving to me what your two yrs of posting says about you..just love to bitch.

210 Shelbourne  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:56:06pm

Okay Bob...

Let's look at some simple questions then:
1. When other groups have to pay for their own prayerrooms and churches... is it right that the muslim groups "expect" this to be provided to them with community funds ?

2. When the Christian groups consider men and women to be equal... is it right that the male muslims shut out females that want to enjoy their religious freedom?

3. Is it okay for a minority group to enforce rigid rules for community prayer rooms?

4. When the Christian groups have a chapel that is on the far border of the campus, why should the mosque be build in the centre?

See... simple questions. I am looking forward to your answers.

211 Raiderhawg  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:57:39pm

Funny that the MSA has permanent claim to any room on their campus. I go to two different Christian groups on my campus, and my level of participation in each varies from semester to semester. It just depends on how they fit around my class schedule. One has it's own building off campus, so there's no problem there. The other one, which has the main weekly meeting on campus, is rarely in the same place three weeks in a row because the school schedules various events and needs space for them. We had one room that was pretty regular, but once we outgrew it, we now have to take what we can get and be glad to get it. There are about four or five rooms that we use from week to week.

These MSA people will have to pay to reserve the big rooms, but if they expect it on their tuition bill, they will have to take what's given to them. If they do not want to pay to reserve it, buy up some property nearby the campus, or host it at someone's house, they will have to swallow their pride and simply take what is available to them. I have no sympathy for them.

212 Bob Munck  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:59:06pm
Highrise: This is Charles' blog, not yours. He has a mission and it's obvious what that mission is and you do nothing to further that.

That's truly absurd. A "mission?" You feel that the only permissible comments are those that support and defend the ravings of Charles Johnson?

(btw, I've been "net savvy" since I first got on ARPANet at BBN in 1971.)

213 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:03:38pm

#212 Bob

Let's talk about the taxpayer-funded facilities for muslims, while no money is allowed for Chritians or Jews... How does that work, in your world?

214 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:05:12pm

212 Bob Munck

I don't know Charles from adam. And if you must know you smart ass troll, how I found this blog is not Charles. I found it because I was curious wtf was going on in california school systems because I heard a tiny blurb on the news that they REFUSED To expand upon about california schools mandating in some areas that kids learn to be muslims for 6 months..I do a google search and lo and behold, LGF tells me All the goods. I'm homeschooling my kid thank you.


I didn't even become a posting member for almost a year..I read archives to get to know this place. I had NEVER even BEEN to a blog but I was SO appreciative of the THOROUGH job that CHarles and other commenting lizards did on the california bullshit in the schools that I honestly craved MORE knowledge. Yes, that is right..more KNOWLEDGE.


Now I will take some of that humble pie you have hidden that you don't want to admit that you need to eat.

Lonely piece of troll crap. I see through it..and anyone who reviews your 2 yr plus history of posting will too. You don't fool me and this is why we are different than kos. People like you get exposed..and stay exposed. How does it feel to be naked pissant?

215 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:07:14pm

212 Bob Munck 5/07/2007 10:59:06 pm PDT


(btw, I've been "net savvy" since I first got on ARPANet at BBN in 1971.)

Oh no need to compare internet dicks here..pal. You are pegged as one lonely piece of crap...

All people need to do is a search of your posts and they will see your mission here is to dis charles and others just to be nasty..in nearly ever post of yours.

You are a class act ass. I am holding your feet to the fire. You'll have to do much better than that tripe.

216 Bob Munck  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:09:44pm
#209: why are you looking them up? You went out of your way to brag how you live so close to them..how about being a good model lizard and go on campus and demand the answer?

Well, it is 2am here, so I'm pretty sure I wouldn't get an answer.

#210: 1. When other groups have to pay for their own prayerrooms and churches... is it right that the muslim groups "expect" this to be provided to them with community funds ?

2. When the Christian groups consider men and women to be equal... is it right that the male muslims shut out females that want to enjoy their religious freedom?

3. Is it okay for a minority group to enforce rigid rules for community prayer rooms?

4. When the Christian groups have a chapel that is on the far border of the campus, why should the mosque be build in the centre?

1. There's no indication any of the other groups are paying for their rooms in the Student Union.

2. They don't shut out females, they just separate the sexes. I've been in Christian services that do that too, up in Amish country.

3. No. If they want exclusive control, they should move off campus. The article pointed to implied that they do share the room, but make some rules. They shouldn't be allowed to make rules for times when they aren't having services or events.

4. It isn't a mosque, it's a single small room on the third floor of a huge building.

217 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:14:18pm

216 Bob Munck 5/07/2007 11:09:44 pm PDT

#209: why are you looking them up? You went out of your way to brag how you live so close to them..how about being a good model lizard and go on campus and demand the answer?

Well, it is 2am here, so I'm pretty sure I wouldn't get an answer.

In the morning I will expect you to be a good lizard and go visit and ask some questions for the lizard community...that is if you are really serious.

218 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:15:14pm

#216 Bob

Regarding point 1: That's the point -- the gov't pays for their facilities, but not for Christian or Buddhist or Jew or Pagan or... facilities... Any questions?

219 Sharmuta  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:21:05pm

212 Bob Munck

You feel that the only permissible comments are those that support and defend the ravings of Charles Johnson?

Charles allows the ravings of the likes of you, despite the fact you sit there and insult him and his work. If LGF is so beneath you Bob, you don't have to post here.

220 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:29:01pm

And just so hopefully Charles feels good about his mission...I DID plan on homeschooling my kid before LGF..but especially after I read about the whole crap about the california and the teaching of muslims for a few months. Was a no brainer.

I was so distraught after the msm failing me in telling me the details that a parent desires in raising their child..after I read what I did at LGF, I thought..wow..if a person like that cared enough to get the details, maybe I should listen to whatever they have to say..god knows the regular news wasn't watching out for me then.

So thank you Charles, for exposing things and shining a light..and THANK YOU lizards for your wonderful posting. YOU have made my life better and my family. I can say that NO other website or interaction online has ever made me feel that way..I consider that special and is why I am thankful for your education and comments.

221 the phantom  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:30:25pm

#199 Highrise

"he has a mission"

222 Bob Munck  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:30:44pm
#218: the gov't pays for their facilities, but not for Christian or Buddhist or Jew or Pagan or... facilities... Any questions?

Given that the (Virginia) government pays for the facilities used by the Christian, Buddhist, and Jewish organizations on campus in exactly the same way that they pay for the room used by the Muslims, I'd have to ask what you're talking about. I don't see that you have a point.

Are you perhaps confused by the fact that there's a Catholic organization that has an off-campus chapel that they bought and paid for? True, and they have weddings there; I've been to one. However, there are other Catholic organizations that use on-campus facilities, just like the Muslims. It seems to me that you're trying to insinuate that there's anti-JudeoChristian prejudice, where none exists.

223 andalus  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:37:55pm

Awesome.

224 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:39:09pm

yeah who knows..maybe bob = andulus

225 Sharmuta  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:39:55pm

Everybody repeat after Bob Munck-

there is no islamic incrementalism
there is no islamic incrementalism
there is no islamic incrementalism
there is no islamic incrementalism
there is no islamic incrementalism

/go back to sleep Bob, when the time comes we'll still save you

226 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:41:19pm

#200 Bob Munck

Bobby, I've been to university, graduated even. Just about anybody can book a meeting room in the Student Union Building, or whatever it may be called on the campus in question. That's what it's THERE for.

I daresay you could even book the broom closet for the Bob Munck Appreciation Society.

What sticks in the craw of the Lizards here is that the muslims are demanding facilities for ritual ablutions, to be paid for by Joe Taxpayer.

227 Sharmuta  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:41:32pm

223 andalus

Awesome.

Can we start a collection for you? Send you to saudi arabia maybe?

228 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:42:41pm

yeah I think bob munck has proven he hasn't gotten a piece of ass in awhile. I mean who would concentrate on a blog for years targeting all members like he has negatively. It takes some doing to do that.

Sex deprived piece of jack ass cheese is all I can come up with.

Bob munck, every time you post, I will be here with your history of posting...so you better shape up or we'll be exposing your constant yearly bitching lonely crap.

229 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:49:10pm

226 Alberta Oil Peon 5/07/2007 11:41:19 pm PDT


What sticks in the craw of the Lizards here is that the muslims are demanding facilities for ritual ablutions, to be paid for by Joe Taxpayer.


And I bet you he knows it. He likes to play coy I noticed with his 2 years of posting that can't be hidden. I love to be able to view people's posts in the past. You know, it's normal to disagree here and there on some issues..god knows I HAVE with some lizards...but this chump seems to just want to attack attack attack constantly over the years...huge red flag.

230 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:51:39pm
231 Highrise  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:09:25am

bob, I hope if you are leaving us, that you are gettin sleep to go visit the university to get answers :) .

232 A Limey In Yanks Clothing  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:19:15am
#158 Friars Tales

man, I hate to say it, but crazy old Michael Moore was on to something when he made Fahrenheit 911

the Saudis are buying up this country

(MM was a fool on a lot of other things, of course, and F911 was a piece of sh**t anti-US propaganda flick, but he was right about petro-dollars buying influence)


I didn't watch that moore crap, but did he mention that one of the lefts most virtuous icons has been on the saudi payroll for quite some time?

[Link: www.frontpagemagazine.com...]

When Newsweek magazine asked his campaign for the names of people on whom Carter relied for advice, my name was among those given out. I continued to work for Carter over the years, most recently I met him in Jerusalem a year ago, and we briefly discussed the Mid-East. Though I disagreed with some of his points, I continued to believe that he was making them out of a deep commitment to principle and to human rights.

Recent disclosures of Carter's extensive financial connections to Arab oil money, particularly from Saudi Arabia, had deeply shaken my belief in his integrity. When I was first told that he received a monetary reward in the name of Shiekh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahayan, and kept the money, even after Harvard returned money from the same source because of its anti-Semitic history, I simply did not believe it. How could a man of such apparent integrity enrich himself with dirty money from so dirty a source?

And let there be no mistake about how dirty the Zayed Foundation is. I know because I was involved, in a small way, in helping to persuade Harvard University to return more than $2 million that the financially strapped Divinity School received from this source. Initially, I was reluctant to put pressure on Harvard to turn back money for the Divinity School, but then a student at the Divinity School, Rachael Lea Fish showed me the facts.

233 Highrise  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:26:28am

Bob?

I'm not gonna forget this...


Put up or shut up...be sleeping and produce to the lizard community since you have proven to be so callous. I will expect a full report of the U that you live near..bright and early chop chop.

234 Highrise  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:39:22am

I'm serious Bob, you are done with..you produce within 24 hours some proof that you are for the lizard community or you are riduculed here forever as the troll you are.


Go to that U and prove you are a lizard or get off this site.

I will keep a copy of this thread...for future reference banked on how flakey your past has been but hey, I believe in redemption.

235 Shelbourne  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:43:14am

1. There's no indication any of the other groups are paying for their rooms in the Student Union.

No, but they don't expect alterations to be made to them either.

2. They don't shut out females, they just separate the sexes. I've been in Christian services that do that too, up in Amish country.

Nice... does the Amish community run prayergroups at this University?
It doesn't mean anything if one little group of Christians does something in another state on their own land. This is about the behavior and expectations of muslims on a University.

3. No. If they want exclusive control, they should move off campus. The article pointed to implied that they do share the room, but make some rules. They shouldn't be allowed to make rules for times when they aren't having services or events.
So even when those rulest contradict all that Western civilization stands for, it should be expected. Equality of women ? Who cares.. the muslim community is entitled to their believes. Equality of sexual orrientation? Who cares... the muslim community is entitled to their believes.

Man... I bet you would be on a frenzy here when some white supremist group (with similar believes) would book a room at any university and would be allowed to spread their word.

4. It isn't a mosque, it's a single small room on the third floor of a huge building.
Read the article. The writer informs us that they are looking to build a mosque on campus on a central place. This is not about the prayerroom... this is about a mosque..on..campus...ground!
Also... if you had actually done some research on islam, you would know, that this should not only be a central building, but probably it should be higher than any other building as well... at least, higher than the Christian places of worship.

236 Highrise  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:44:39am

Truly, bob,

stop responding to my posts..shelbourne is kicking your ass and you are clueless in that area. Must be tiring to keep up..no wonder you are so tired. Old fart.

237 Highrise  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:51:03am

damn, bob left..I"m mad now

238 Highrise  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:51:16am

what a wimp

239 Highrise  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:54:45am

Bob Munck

don't tell me you left? bunch of us want to hear your plight...and why you come here you effing wimp.

Explain?

240 andalus  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:46:02am
This is Charles' blog... He has a mission and it's obvious what that mission is.

Pray tell.

241 Highrise  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:12:06am

240 andalus

why are you here? pray tell

242 Highrise  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:13:59am

240 andalus 5/08/2007 1:46:02 am PDT


You are the biggest troll here..this ought o be good..explain why you waste your time here muslim.

243 Highrise  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:14:47am

wow huge troll thread...both andulus and bob came up fo air..
pathetic pieces of shit.

244 Highrise  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:18:45am

Typical trolls bob and andulus..you are full of shit yet no proof. I won't forget this.

Mark my words, I won't forget the bs you pulled in this thread and just ran away from.

NONE of us will forget.

245 Sharmuta  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:19:26am

240 andalus

This is Charles' blog... He has a mission and it's obvious what that mission is.

Pray tell.

I'll tell you punk, and I'll use small words that will be easy for you to understand since you can't figure it out on you own- it's to speak the Truth about islam.

He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may make it conqueror of all religion however much idolaters may be averse.

surah 61:9

246 RickZ  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:55:56am

# 75 Crusader rabbit:

Were I a student there I would be peeing in the foot baths.

LMAO! As I was reading post # 74, I was thinking that if I were in college today, I'd be peeing in the foot baths. Then came your post. Full bladders think alike! Besides, do the universities have something against multi-cultutral urine?

247 bubbasbbq  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:35:50am

Hey, every place needs a handy floor mounted urinal.

248 LC LaWedgie  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:36:30am

Bob Munck spreads his 1.3 terrorists created for every one killed philosophy and scandalus shows up.

Hmmm...

249 goodbye_natalie  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:40:32am

Highrise,

Don't get too upset with Bulbous Bob. The guy's a legend in his own mind and a pathological liar. He's made all sort of outrageous claims about his superior intellect, wealth, inventions, [ad nauseam], to the point of becoming a LGF favorite joke. Like this line:

btw, I've been "net savvy" since I first got on ARPANet at BBN in 1971.

I have no doubt this old fart was there at the 'nets' inception. But we've all met the type. Fed worker, short-sleeve faded white shirt, smells of body order, pocket protector, combover hair, about 80 lbs overweight with 79 of it in the gut. Reads science magazines, brags of glory days which never happened, plays on the net strolling for free child porn when the shrew of a nagging wife goes to bed, dreams of what could have been had he only been born good looking.

Trust me, old bullet Bob is harmless. His posts make for great fodder.

Come on Bob! What you inventin' now?

250 fuseman  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:50:38am

#198 freedomplow
duh

251 goodbye_natalie  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:52:13am

#249 ooopsss.

order/odor

252 nycrepublican  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:45:26am

I wonder. If this is allowed to continue, is it already too late? Will the majority of our populace ever wake up and face the reality of this insidious dhimmification?

Or will we allow it to slowly creep into our society, as Europe did, until we wake up one day in Blackburn, Lancashire?

253 cosmo  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:57:32am

I see the RoP is now the Religion of Equality...

Where are the separation of church and state-niks if this is to be taxpayer-funded?

254 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:17:08am

Dear MSA,

Sod off, swampy. Buy your own building.

Sincerely,
WWtW

P.S. You are stupid

255 grumpy old codger  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:19:09am

Re #253 Cosmo

Now, Now! Don't be so upset. It's apparent that our molsem overlords are merely requiring state funds for this religious purpose as a down payment on our future dhimmi tax. Next step will be asking for separate entrances for "The Chosen" so that the dhimmis et al. won't pollute them. After that, who knows? Separate classes for females and males? Abrogation of Title XI and woman's sports? Separate dining facilities?

There is/can be no compromise with evil.

256 tangonine  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:24:46am

#249 goodbye_natalie

I have no doubt this old fart was there at the 'nets' inception. But we've all met the type. Fed worker, short-sleeve faded white shirt, smells of body order, pocket protector, combover hair, about 80 lbs overweight with 79 of it in the gut. Reads science magazines, brags of glory days which never happened, plays on the net strolling for free child porn when the shrew of a nagging wife goes to bed, dreams of what could have been had he only been born good looking.

Hey now!

257 wenx  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:28:45am

Thought ya'll might be interested in an article from the GMU student newspaper about the expansion of the 'mediation space'.

There are definitely voices at GMU that are speaking up for *both* sides. Will keep my eyes open for anything else (am a commuter to campus so sometimes I miss stuff ).

258 cosmo  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:31:06am

#255: Interesting. Can you see the Title IXers having a rational discussion with wahabbists about "the need for equality in athletics?"

Name a women's sport whose uniforms are "to code" with regards to islam? (Fencing comes to mind...just make sure you keep your mask on!) Now imagine the collegiate versions of Misty May and Holly McPeak playing beach volleyball in burqas.

259 daledog  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:32:44am

This is why all things islamic must be fought at every turn no matter how benign they seem. Halal shops, mosques, islamic bookstores should never be allowed to take root here.

260 gymnast  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:22:10am

Assimilate the Muslims? Save time, money, and lives. Buy them one way airline tickets back to Dar Al Islam. Western civilization seems to be, for "them", a nice place to visit, but not an acceptable place to live without Westerners making unacceptable accommodations (surrender) to their religio-cultural demands. They come not as immigrants but as colonists. Fuck em.

261 Bob Munck  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:24:45am
#235 Shelbourne,

Read the article. The writer informs us that they are looking to build a mosque on campus on a central place. This is not about the prayerroom... this is about a mosque..on..campus...ground!

No it isn't. The article says nothing about "building a mosque." It's about expansion of a meditation room on the third floor of the Johnson building. The characterization of it as a mosque is entirely in the mind of the obviously prejudiced Brian Ledbetter, author of the article. Read his article again, and the Broadside articles he points to. The idea of building something seems to come entirely from your own fervid imagination.

There's already a large mosque just west of the campus, on Braddock Road right next to the Coptic Orthodox Church. Fairfax is a highly diverse, well educated, and extremely wealthy community; it's also strongly Democratic.

Yes, Natalie, I do read science magazines. I take it you don't?

262 snapped shot  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:33:18am

#235 Shelbourne

I hate to admit it, but Bob's got a point. The MSA is not looking to build a "mosque," per se. They are seeking to "officially" take over the prayer area that they have "unofficially" strong-armed for themselves on the third floor of the Johnson Center (our main student building).

The biggest point of contention I have with their little plan is that they are demanding that the University expand the room, presumably at public expense, where the only room for expansion available is a group study area that's already fairly crowded on any given night. So we'd gain area on the floor that is Muslim only, and lose area that is used by every student for their studies.

Universities are still about "studying," right?

As a little bit of background, I've been going to George Mason since Spring of 2003, taking evening courses for the entire duration of my stay. (What can I say? I've gotta pay the bills, right?) Since I usually get on campus an hour or so ahead of class (which starts at 7:20), I have a long-standing habit of going up to the 3rd floor of the Johnson Center, plugging my laptop in, and surfing the 'net for a little bit. It was only after my first year there that I started noticing that there were a large number of Muslims on campus, and only after I saw the first MSA sign announcing an "educational" seminar on the "plight" of the "Palestinians" that I started to understand that there was a problem.

The University has already installed ritual foot-washing basins in every (or nearly every - I need to confirm that next time I'm out there) bathroom in the Student Center, and as far as I know, there is only ONE group that uses these devices. (Of course, if we were looking to being civilly disobedient, I'd suggest that we Infidels start using those basins for their intended purpose. There's no need to be obscene or do anything that we wouldn't do in our own homes - but hey, if all of us suddenly feel the urge to wash our feet at right around the proscribed Muslim prayer times, what can they do about it?

Alas, I digress...

To me, installing these foot-basins was the equivalent of a Baptist group asking for the University to install a Baptismal fount, or the Catholic group asking for an Altar to be installed in the prayer areas. Or heck, asking to keep Crosses in the Chapels we already had!

Which is what led to my off-the-cuff observation that Muslims are "more" equal than Christians. We're expected to pay our own way if we want something. They are merely handed things.

The University, other than the Administration, the Student Government, and the History department, is fairly conservative. Heck, we've got Walter Williams, what more can I say? It also has a long history of being "ecumenical," back when that meant that Christians and Jews got along, so it's not like the University is adverse to Christian groups or anything.

We just don't have the PC Police pushing people around in our benefit.

I'll be out on Campus this Wednesday, taking pictures. I hope to share some of the Campus environment with you, so you can get an idea of what we're talking about. It is finals season, though, so I'm not sure who exactly is going to be there. Please stay tuned - I'll hopefully have more on the topic soon!

Regards,
Brian L. / snapped shot

263 snapped shot  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:40:18am

#261 Bob

Prejudiced? Because I object to parts of my University being turned over for exclusively Islamic education?

Cute.

I suppose I wasn't clear enough in characterizing the space as a "mosque-on-campus" (which was intended to sound like an analogy, rather than being literal). The space is only a "mosque" in the sense that the MSA expects to "teach Islam" in it. Perhaps "mosque-of-sorts" would have been more suitable? I'd be happy to revise it, and credit you for the correction, if you'd like.

My apologies if anything I wrote was unclear. I try to be as exact as I can, but fail far more often than I'd like. I do have Ye Olde "Comments" Feature on my website, though, in case there's any contention with what I've written. Please do feel free to use it.

Regards,
Brian

264 Venezuela lover  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:43:53am

Only a matter of time until the cirriculum becomes halal, women are denied entry, racism is official policy, and pork is banished from the cafeterias. Straighten it out now or live with it later.

GMU baseketball team will go down the drain when they switch from NCAA rules to Sharia basketball rules.

265 WALT C  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:49:32am

This meditation room sounds like a nice place quietly read a book and much a bag of pork rinds with hot sauce.

266 Shelbourne  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:22:17am

Well... first off, I must apologize to Bob, for my error regarding the mosque-thing.

We'll keep the "in-equality in islam"-rant open, if you don't mind ;)

#262 Snapped Shot / Brian

I would be very interested in seeing those pictures and wish you GL with your studies.

Shelbourne / Nick

267 alegrias  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:23:28am

Michael Moore was invited to speak at GMU on the eve of the 2004 election and to be paid several thousand dollars in student fees, until the outcry caused him to be disinvited.

GMU's now in lefty territory in jihadi Northern Virginia where Bush-hating Djohn Kerry, Dhjimm Webb and DJhimm Moran won by large margins in 2004 and 2006.

Don't bother asking me for money, GMU Alumni Associations.

268 Shelbourne  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:26:44am

I liked this line in one of the articles:
,,Noncompliance with the religion’s rules, however, can be misinterpreted as offensive. "

So... not following their rules while acting in line with the University rules, is now deemed offensive. Interesting.

269 alegrias  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:30:45am

Jihadist Tariq Ramadan--who cannot get into our country--was invited to GMU to teach during a workshop on Islam by GMU professor Peter ___. Thankfully our government ignored the Washington Post's makeover whitewash of icky Tariq Ramadan the jihadist scion of the Muslim Brotherhood's founder.

To think in 1978 George Mason U. honored Captive Nations Day on behalf of freedom-hungry countries trapped inside the Soviet Union's iron fist.

To think in 1979 Iranian students at GMU tried to pass themselves off as "Mediterranean" to avoid being typecast as iranian student sponsors of Iran's fanatical mullahs DJhimmi Carter loosed on the Shah and our embassy for 444 days.

To REALIZE today GMU's leftists align with our enemies of state...How they George Mason might have fallen.

270 seeker68  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:35:24pm

#164 - re:Hillel

Yep, they have a Hillel.
[Link: hillel.gmu.edu...]

271 Bob Munck  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:28:40pm
#263 Snapped Shot,

Because I object to parts of my University being turned over for exclusively Islamic education?

#270: Yep, they have a Hillel.

And Hillel seems to have a dedicated room or area in SUB-1. So where's the outrage? If it's wrong for Muslims to have their own space on campus, surely it's wrong for Hillel also. Are there plans to go over there and urinate in their milchik dishes? I'm told that the "real problem" here is the use of taxpayer money to support Muslim activities. Why doesn't that principle apply to Hillel?

(Btw, the original question about Hillel was asking if there was one on the UAE campus of GM. It doesn't appear that there is.)

272 rightwingprof  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:44:26pm

I hope nobody is going to rely on the university administration to do anything about this. It's time for the trustees to do their jobs, but of course, they won't--trustees at every university I know of are nothing but rubber stamps for the administration. It's time for anyone who lives in Virginia to write your congress and every trustee sitting on the board.


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