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Mon, May 7, 2007 at 8:41:32 pm PDT

The violence continued in France tonight, and so did the puzzling reluctance of mainstream media to cover it: Anti-Sarkozy protesters smash windows.

This is one of the only stories on the wire that even mentions disturbances.

PARIS (Reuters) - Between 300 and 400 youths protesting against French president-elect Nicolas Sarkozy smashed shop windows, burnt scooters and clashed with police in central Paris on Monday evening, Reuters witnesses said.

Several hundred riot police tried to chase the youths, who gathered in the Place de la Bastille chanting anti-Sarkozy slogans on two separate occasions during the evening.

At least two scooters were burnt, telephone cabins were smashed and several cars were damaged. Around 35 people were arrested and there were several clashes between the youths and police.

In Nantes, in western France, around 400 protesters gathered in the centre of the town. They smashed windows and damaged several cars before being dispersed by police with tear gas.

Around 500 protesters gathered in Lyon eastern France, and in Caen in northern France around 800 people demonstrated in the centre of the town. French radio said there were other protests in other towns.

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1 Noam Sayin'  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:43:08pm

What's the car tally?

2 Avary  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:44:09pm

Those are actually very small numbers for protesters in France. Under a thousand it's a trickle.

First?

3 RTLM  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:45:01pm

It should be forcefully interrupted.

4 Charles  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:45:02pm

I wouldn't trust these numbers.

5 Ojoe  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:45:19pm

Only burning scooters? If true, already an improvement.

Why don't they try setting their own pants on fire next?

6 SnakeSpit  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:45:21pm

The yutes! The yutes! The unnamed Muslim yutes.

7 SnakeSpit  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:47:28pm

This proves the great respect the muslims have for the democratic process.

8 reluctant democrat  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:49:30pm

Has the French intafada begun?

9 ctrlL  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:49:33pm

300+400+500+800 = 2,000

NOW you tell us, Charles.

/math skills burnt and he tells us to wait ... !?

10 Irene NYC  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:49:39pm

#7 SnakeSpit
This proves the great respect the muslims have for the democratic process.

11 Durendal  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:49:41pm

they should just start shooting these "youths" (with real bullets)
obviously the current deterrent is not sufficient

12 rorschach  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:50:18pm

My favorite comment of the French election went something like..."Of course we will participate in the democratic election, but if we don't get what we want, we are going to riot". (Guess which side said that.)

Both the Left and Islamists have a twisted perception of democracy. It is only a tool to give credence to their distortion of humanity. Unless of course they lose at the ballot box, at which time they resort to murder and mayhem.

13 Irene NYC  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:50:22pm

Whoops!

#7 SnakeSpit


This proves the great respect the muslims have for the democratic process.

Not so sure this is muslim youths.

14 FriarsTale  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:50:41pm

France is at war, but not against another country, per se

the police are the front line soldiers in the French Civil War

15 ctrlL  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:51:48pm

#2 Avary 8:44:09

First?

Looks like you were 1 minute and 1 second late for that, mate !

16 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:52:16pm

Sarkozy,

First order of business is to lift that ban of people taking pictures with their phones. You NEED visibility into this stuff if you want support. People need to see this chaos so when you propose a crackdown, you aren't thought of as some meany.

17 RTLM  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:53:48pm
#11 Durendal

they should just start shooting these "youths" (with real bullets)
obviously the current deterrent is not sufficient

I'd settle for French version of MacArthur Park. (Named after the Gen.)

18 Bad Penny  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:55:31pm

Can we see the flames?

(Well, probably not, but it's a purty picture.)

19 Kaintuck  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:55:35pm
burnt scooters

Now that's some bold shit right there!

Next thing we know they'll be trying to burn Charles' bicycle.

20 MandyManners  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:57:05pm

We see you here in Amerca.

Open Season
Music: Ward
Lyrics: Aborn, Nelson
String Arrangement: Eric Frampton

I speak peace when peace is spoken, But I speak war when your hate is provoking, The season is open 24-7-365, Man up yo time to ride, No need to hide behind slogans of deceit, Claiming that you're a religion of peace, We just don't believe you, We can clearly see through, The madness that you're feeding your people, Jihad the cry of your unholy war, Using the willing, the weak and poor, From birth drowning in propaganda, rhetoric and slander, All we can say is damn ya

My forefathers fought and died for this here
I'm stronger than your war of fear
Are we clear?
If you step in my hood
It's understood
It's open season

I don't need a faith that's blind, Where death and hate bring me peace of mind, With views that are stuck deep in the seventh century, So much sand in your eyes to blind to see, The venom that you leaders preach, Is the path to your own destruction, Your own demise, You might say that I don't understand but your disgust for me is what I realize, Surprise!
Your homicidal ways has got the whole world watching, Whole world scoping, So if you bring it to my home base, Best believe it, The season's open

I see you, Hell yeah I see you, Motherfucker naw, I don't wanna be you, If you come to my place, I'll drop more than just some bass, Yo you'll get a taste of a, Sick motherfucker from the Dirty, I ain't worrying not a fucking bit, I'm telescoping like Hubble, Yo you in trouble, Yo on the double, I'm wild with mine, Bring that style with mine, Fuck with my family I'll end your life, Just the way it is, Just the way it be, Do you understand? No matter if you're woman or man, or child, My profile is crazy, That shit you do doesn't amaze me, I'm ready to blaze thee

I don't give a damn what god you claim, I've seen the innocent that you've slain, On my streets you're just fair game, Like a pig walk to your slaughter, The heat here is so much hotter, And my views won't teeter totter or fluctuate, Step to me you just met your fate, And I'll annihilate, With the skill of a Shogun assassin, Slicing and dicing precise with a passion, In any shape form or fashion, Bring it to my home, Welcome to the danger zone, Cause your attitude's the reason, The triggers keep squeezing, The hunt is on and it's open season

It's Open Season

21 experiencedtraveller  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:57:41pm

Is Paris burning?

22 varmint  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:58:00pm

a cartoon for the hell of it...


[Link: www.attackcartoons.com...]

23 Maui Girl  Mon, May 7, 2007 8:58:43pm

They also neglect to mention that the youths are predominantly (if not all) Muslim. But we all know the truth of the matter.

24 Durendal  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:02:05pm

#17 RTLM

i assume they're already using those things in France. if all they're facing is tear gas and batons it's a no-brainer for these "youths" to go stir trouble...in fact the fake danger probably adds to the fun. but if police started mowing them down the next group might think differently

25 concernedUCIstudent  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:03:31pm

Well, it's 6 am now in Paris, but if they choose to riot once again tonight at Place de la Bastille, you might be able to see it on the webcam:

[Link: www.orange.fr...]

26 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:03:55pm
#23 Maui Girl

They also neglect to mention that the youths are predominantly (if not all) Muslim. But we all know the truth of the matter.

Do we?

/how do you know?

27 Ojoe  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:06:48pm

Maybe they are burning scooters because they have already burned up all the cars.

28 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:08:21pm

#23 Maui Girl
Most of them appear to be white leftist children of privilege.

29 Kong_an563  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:08:47pm

RE:
the puzzling reluctance of mainstream media to cover it.

Anyone else have the nagging itch that suggests the news is being 'toned down'. That it has suddenly become dull, boring, like nothing unusual is going on.

No breathless semi-hysteria from the news 'presenter' fast talking his way through the report of the 'strange devices' being investigated by the bomb squad in Boston.

No in depth coverage of the latest atrocity in Iraq, or the latest threat from Iran, or the palestine 'resistance', or the latest truck wreck and fire that destroys a freeway overpass.

Like something really big is about to blow up?
Or is it just me?

30 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:09:18pm

They report fewer rioters than cars burnt -- so, how many cars were torched per rioter?

/dhimmi math test

31 nigella  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:11:20pm

Is this a preview of what our own dhimmis will do when they lose once again. Seriously., I think the left here is just crazy enough to do even worse things then burn scooters or cars. Another loss and heads are going to explode!

32 Flying Dutchman  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:12:27pm

Just to be honest, the fwench tv corrected the numbers and said over 700 cars where set ablaze yesterday night... First Sarko effects ?

Bedtime for me my friends, the birds are already awake in "old europe"™ ;-))

See you all soon here !

Regards !

33 Kaintuck  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:13:27pm

I had an experience with my own Denizen of the Alleyways throwing a brick through my back window about 10 years ago. It had never happened before, so it took me a couple of minutes to realize what was happening. I called 911, picked up the .357 and went back there as he was crawling through the window. Once he looked down the bore of the S&W, he altered his plans and ran away.

The police arrived 16 minutes later (I live about 5 blocks from their headquarters).

A detective tracked him down for a month through fingerprints on a discarded beer bottle and understood what I told him about this guy breaking into a home in broad daylight: he might have a family somewhere, but if his judgment was that bad, he wouldn't last long.

The Federal Judge turned him loose a day before he would have been released on Public Intoxication charges.

All in all, though, neither he nor his buddies came back over this way.

Once just one Frenchman finds his old pistol and shoots one of these "yoots" burning his scooter, the bravado of the yoots will evaporate.

Muslim men are pussies. That's why they beat/overclothe their women and leave it to their children to murder themselves while they go off to the stripclubs, drink themselves silly and demand that the rest of the world acknowledge their "superiority".

Get the Hell Out of My Yard, Musselmen.

Kaintuck

34 kreuzueber halbmond  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:13:28pm

What's with this 'youths' sh**? How about calling them criminals, hooligans, or juvenile delinquents? No need to shoot them, just do the right thing and arrest them, prosecute them, and make them pay restitution.

35 Mambo Bananapatch  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:13:32pm

"The violence continued in France tonight, and so did the puzzling reluctance of mainstream media to cover it..."

What's so puzzling about it? It would have been puzzling if they'd suddenly started reporting it responsibly.

36 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:13:37pm

Bloodhound Gang - Fire Water Burn
(language warning)

37 cbinflux  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:15:40pm

Calling all half-ass reporters!

What is the cost to-date of cars and bldgs. burned?

What is all of this doing to insurance rates?

Reporting 101.

38 Student of Objectivism  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:16:05pm

#11 Durendal

Agreed! Consider using bullets Frenchies! One must use force against the initiation of force.

39 really grumpy big dog johnson  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:16:13pm

Frampton Comes Alive?

40 DesertSage  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:17:28pm

I'm confused, all this rioting just because Paris is going to jail for 45 days?

41 ISG(ret)  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:17:33pm

#33 Kaintuck

Kind of sounds like Louisville?

Top

42 Norm Chumpsky  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:20:12pm

France is at war, but not against another country, per se

Bhut...who vill shey zurrendher to?

43 amphibian  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:20:28pm

Don't the French MSM have SDS (analogous to our own BDS)? Why are they under-reporting yout-caused car burnage when it is clearly All Sarkozy's Fault?

44 WestPack  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:21:00pm

How about a "whiff of grapeshot?"

45 Kaintuck  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:23:34pm

#41 ISG(ret):

Kind of sounds like Louisville?

Top

Good guess, but I live in Lex. I spent a summer in LVL and they stole my car, broke into my apartment.

I lived in St. Louis for 2 years. They stole my car, broke into my apartment.

That's why I'm in Lexington now. No more midwest cities for me :-).

K.

46 RTLM  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:24:53pm

Bullets are flyin' pretty fast and loose here.
I was thinking more along the lines of shot gun fired bean bags and rubber bullets.

What The French need to go is inflict enough pain to create highly motivated Youth escape behavior. Pelt them into herds of home bound land mammals. Tear gas is last century and dead bodies in the streets of Paris would be problematic.

47 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:25:24pm

Count down to the French socialists "Sorry Everybody" sites... 5..4..3..

48 ccoffer  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:25:41pm

It will take Frenchmen willing to defend their property for the situation to change.

Destroying my car earns you a shallow grave.

49 cbinflux  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:25:44pm

kt

Well, isn't that special.?!

50 varmint  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:27:36pm

last time around I proudly rode with a "VIVA BUSH" sticker across the back of my bike. Well, maybe not "proudly". But I still stormed across L.A. traffic identified as a republican.

People would swerve through four lanes to scream at me. After a while it stopped being amusing. There's a lot of rage out there.

Every time I wander through one of the "anit-war"rallys I see anarchists in starters stance waiting for a chance to smash the bourgoise.


They're organized and full of hate, and waiting for a chance.

51 cbinflux  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:27:43pm

dead bodies in the streets of Paris will be:

too little, too late
and then
Christians and Jews

52 legalpad  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:27:59pm

The media fears the sleeping giant, as they should.

53 New York's Michael  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:28:20pm

It show the bias and hypocracy of most of the media around the world. We need to spread the word around the more times this kind of nonsense is exposed the less effect the "drive by " media will have.

54 ccoffer  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:28:55pm

Scum seems an appropriate description of the scum. Perhaps vermin would be more polite.

55 Quilly Mammoth  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:29:31pm

Spring is in the air and the smell of burnt Citroen wafting on the breeze. Ah Radical Islamic Fundamentalism Youth...

56 cbinflux  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:29:36pm

45 kaintuck

"They"..?

57 defund_NPR  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:30:28pm

Crush them.

58 hazzyday  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:30:59pm

France and our Democrats are lacking some humanity genes.

59 Sharmuta  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:31:41pm
This is one of the only stories on the wire that even mentions disturbances.

If we (or the French) knew what was going on we (or the French) might want to do something about it, and the leftists can't have that.

How long until we see Sarkozy=Hitler signs?

60 wildcat_clan  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:33:01pm

If these "youths" are Islamic, the French press has done an artful job of keeping it hidden. I saw a few mixed in with the Anarchists and Socialists, but that is about it. I am not really sure what one would have to "protest" since the man has only very recently been elected. Make no mistake, the Muslim yutes are there and when their time comes, these recent acts will pale by comparison. The Socialists/anarchists begin, for now, they are the squeaky wheels getting the grease. Hopefully, the distraction of the squeaky wheel, doesn't afford "the other Yutes" opportunity to do as they have ever done, their worst.

61 Kaintuck  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:34:39pm

#56 cbinflux:

45 kaintuck

"They"..?

Why, of course. They were "yoots", lived just across the street (St. Louis). They had been subjected to oppression, so they came and stole my shit, and part of it was my brand-new bag of weed! (Glad I gave that stuff up, many moons ago).

62 Orbit Rain  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:37:23pm

...long jail terms and/or deportations for "youths" that wear masks and set things on fire...the mask alone should get a year...

63 ISG(ret)  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:41:05pm

#45 Kaintuck

Move western Ky, much slower and safer. Left LVL area 2 years now.

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64 Kaintuck  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:41:10pm

#60 wildcat_clan:

Your nic sounds strangely familiar.

K.

65 KSK  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:43:48pm

Looks like the Figaro is nor closing its eyes:

[Link: www.lefigaro.fr...]

66 cbinflux  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:46:52pm

*** OT ***
Vulnerability of populations and the urban health care systems to nuclear weapon attack – examples from four American cities

[Link: www.ij-healthgeographics.com...]
[Link: www.ij-healthgeographics.com...]

67 NY Nana  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:47:11pm

Let's hope that this is not going to be right:

68 Kaintuck  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:47:32pm

#63 ISG(ret):

#45 Kaintuck

Move to Western Ky, much slower and safer. Left LVL area 2 years now.

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Thanks! Appreciate the advice, but I'm committed to helping raise my grandbaby 20 miles away. She turns 14 this month. There have been occasional discussions regarding who's in charge, but the outcome is always the same.

And she's been raised by her GREAT-grandmother since she was in diapers. We snatched her away, legally and all that, from her crack-whore "mother". She goes into 9th grade in the Fall and is already reading college brochures.

It's the best thing I know how to do.

69 Durendal  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:48:10pm

#60 wildcat_clan

all the anarchists/commies have been absorbed by the jihad these days anyway, hard to really distinguish

70 cbinflux  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:49:03pm
How long until we see Sarkozy=Hitler signs?

[Link: search.yahoo.com...]

71 wildcat_clan  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:50:09pm

#45 kaintuck: I think you will be ok there, no riots, unless of course the cable goes out during a basketball game. :) I am a Tsalagi hick right in the middle of Kaintuck now, heh. When Cheney was here for the debates, I worked on a habitat house with his daughter. I think she was eying my Estwing hammer. Where is the Goracles lockbox when ya need it? :)

72 RTLM  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:51:04pm
#51 cbinflux

dead bodies in the streets of Paris will be:

too little, too late
and then
Christians and Jews


I was speaking in terms of quelling tonight's riots. Not a National Muslim expulsion.

If thats now the plan, dead bodies are requisite.

73 Durendal  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:51:07pm

#66 cbinflux

did they really need to do a study to figure this out? lol...

74 ISG(ret)  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:52:16pm

#68 Kaintuck

Understand fully. I have a 14 yr old at home also. Thats why we left the LVL area when retirement time came!

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75 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:52:41pm

"Youths"

How about "rioters"?

A good start would be "Anybody wearing a mask and/or carrying anything other than a sign or a giant puppet will be immediately shot". Whether they get shot with FMJ or less-than-lethal rounds should be up to the commander on scene.

Somebody needs to draw a line, but the French can't seem to find their pencil.

76 kuppajoe2  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:53:34pm

#37 Wondered the same thing. I would hate to be an insurance agent in Paris. Claims would be weird. "The Yoots did it."

77 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 9:57:27pm

#75 Pawn

I think the French just drew the line -- it's the AP/al-Reuters/BBC et. al. that have no pencil...

78 ccoffer  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:05:58pm

I truly believe that any Islamo-maggot apprehended while agitating, threatening or whatever while wearing the Klanhood of the Allah-pervs should never be given the privilege of taking it off. Keep that sucker on with duct tape I say.

79 cbinflux  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:08:39pm

I shudder to imagine what this must be doing to our environment.

80 DesertSage  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:10:30pm

How can two people, both of Hungarian decent, be so different?

Sarkozy / Soros

81 cbinflux  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:10:40pm

76 kuppajoe2

There's an enormous cost to this dhimmarchy.

Another factor to guage: the numbers of French getting the hell out of the country.

82 pat  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:11:21pm

Ah the adventurous cavalier days of our youth. The bombings, Jew torturing, car burning, raping, beating up the sissy boys. such fun! We all remember that right? And the laughter and encouragement of the media made it all so special./

83 Acesover8ts  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:14:28pm

I think the problem is that Americans just do not understand the peaceful Frenchies. When they come out the next day to go to work they say whoopee my car is burned. When they look through the window with the brick on their seat they say whoopee, I can see myself in the broken glass.

I am sure that they soon feel deeply saddened that they could not par-take in the festivities of their peace loving multi-cultured muzlumbs. After providing shelter,food and cell phones for their guest, how awful it must feel that they must go to work while their new guest plan for the next night festivities.

84 cbinflux  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:14:46pm

Declare Martial Law

Shoot rioters and looters.

They're quite accustomed to the law and its consequences.

85 Far Sparkle  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:17:13pm

The one positive coming out of the youtes acting up in Fwance is that the more we see this shit, the more our hearts are hardened, and the more resolve we have to protect our America.
Somehow I believe that the Mooselmans know that the next attack in the US will be the end of their existance here. And maybe worse. Because we are gun-totin pig eat'n red necks who don't take shit!

86 cbinflux  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:18:01pm

73 durendal

No, they didn't... but it sure is timely considering the state of the world 24 fans.

87 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:18:48pm

While we worry about rioting in Paris over the new freedom of the French, Google is busy erasing the horrific images of the Beslan school massacre in a blatant short-term revisionist coup against the true history which cannot be stolen these days.

Some day, all those torn asunder by the agony of that incomprehensible event will make Google pay the price for their dishonesty. Google has no direct interest, they simply have their ideology.

Waiting for the next patriotic special start page from Google? What are you, a total idiot? They are too busy erasing history to worry about what you think.

Remember, it was Al Qaeda murderers that slaughtered those people. Google cannot make that fact go away, no matter how many hear-ripping images they make go away.

88 Highrise  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:30:31pm

Sometimes I think my mom was right, her generation had it best. *sigh* civilization is breaking down because it has no idea how to demand that people keep it civil it seems.

89 blackpajamas  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:32:48pm

The young are permanently in a state resembling intoxication.

--Aristotle

90 Nobody's Dhimmi  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:33:26pm

#81
Any statistics on how many people are leaving France? Or where they are going?

91 victor_yugo  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:33:47pm

#87 rgbdj:

Speaking of Google...

Googlers get face time with Sen. John McCain

"I like to think of (seeking) the presidency as a job interview with the American people," Schmidt, who moderates the sessions, told McCain. "And you're also sort of interviewing with Google."

So, "Google = America"?!? Arrogant asshole.

92 victor_yugo  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:35:43pm

#90 Nobody's Dhimmi:

Well, Johnny Depp and his daughter came back to the US.

93 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:39:04pm

Student tries to make roadkill pretty

EDWARDSVILLE, Ill. --For the past several weeks, drivers near Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville have been noticing odd things about some of the roadkill on the sides of the area's highways.

Some of the dead possums and raccoons have been dressed in pet or human baby clothes and have had their claws painted with nail polish. The carcass of a deer has been adorned with gold paint.

The culprit is SIU-Edwardsville graduate art student Jessica May, 24, of West Lafayette, Ind.

In an interview with the Belleville News-Democrat, May said she is not an animal rights activist; she is just interested in seeing if people would give more thought to the animals if they were somehow given human attributes.

/someone needs a new hobby

94 victor_yugo  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:39:38pm

Oh, great. I killed the thread?

Sorry.

95 ROPMA  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:41:03pm

In Nantes Odessa, in western France Texas, around 400 protesters gathered in the centre of the town. They smashed windows and damaged several cars before being dispersed by police local rednecks with tear gas buckshot and rifle fire.
fixed it

96 BenZacharia  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:44:33pm

Really...big...Johnson

Only 'google' when [Link: www.icerocket.com...] doesn't get me there

97 Durendal  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:44:43pm

#87 really grumpy big dog Johnson

do no evil!

/wink

98 victor_yugo  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:45:52pm

#93 Killian Bundy:

she is just interested in seeing if people would give more thought to the animals if they were somehow given human attributes.

Like, a goat being hump-able? Camels in a beauty contest?

How about humans having human attributes? How about more thought to her oppressed sisters in a deadly Catch-22 in the Middle East? Or is that too much to ask of her addled brain?

99 JWM  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:56:14pm

I like opossums as much as the next guy, but I wouldn't dress up a dead one in baby doll clothes.

Maybe something from the Victoria's Secret PETA collection...

JWM

100 celtith  Mon, May 7, 2007 10:57:17pm

In Soviet Russia car burn YOU

101 christheprofessor  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:00:08pm

#87 Grumpy

Can you provide a link? I need screenshots...

102 ceemack  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:04:08pm

Well, they do call Paris the City of Lights. I just never realized that some of the lights were burning Renaults, Citroens and Peugeots.

But I still want more information on the "youths". Are they Muslims, or leftist punks? Some of the cities they're naming seem to be sites of Muslim unrest or anti-Semitic crimes in the past, but that's not proof...

103 squarepeg  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:04:19pm

#4 Charles

I wouldn't trust these numbers.

We may never know.

Yo Reuters, how's it feel to know that future historians will discard your accounts as unreliable? That your biased reporting will, in fact, be part of the story?

/how many windows smashed on Kristallnacht?

104 BenZacharia  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:06:38pm

First SPP, now it's the "Transatlantic Economic Integration".

Any doubt left that GWB is a "one worlder"?

105 zombie  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:07:01pm

No point in letting a good rant go to waste -- so I'll repost it here!

On rare occasion I make a comment somewhere other than LGF, and this time around it was in the Washington Post, where they allow reader comments on various articles.

In this instance, the piece that pushed me over the edge was this "op-ed" by someone named "E. J. Dionne Jr." I wrote a comment in response here -- but since it's only visible to registered users, I thought I would let my comment out of its MSM cage and paste it in here!

The op-ed, to save you the time of reading it, was about the French elections, and the significance it has for "progressives" in other countries. In essence, the piece says nothing noteworthy, except for one detail: he refers to Segolene Royal as the "center-left" and also "the moderate left." That was enough to get my fingers flying, and I posted this comment under the randomly selected username "jackanape" (since "zombie" was already taken):

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This entire op-ed revolves around a grand Orwellian euphemism -- that Segolene Royal (and other politicians with comparable postions) are, as the writer posits, "center-left" or "moderate left." Nice way to move the goalposts, E.J.! Did anyone notice what party Royal belongs to? Hmmm? Oh yeah, the Socialist Party. And what was her platform (to the degree to which it could be deciphered)? That's right -- a Socialist platform.

If socialism -- which, according to Marxist theory, is just a way-station on the road to communism -- counts as the "moderate left" to the Washington Post, then the entire reference frame for assessing political positions has shifted several notches leftward.

Sarkozy has endlessly been referred to by the media over the last few days as "far right-wing" or "hard right" or "a right-wing conservative," when in fact he's barely even center-right. Almost half of his policies would be an American progressive's fantasy come true. So, why the media portrayal of him as an extreme right-winger? Because of the transparent agenda of many in the media to so refocus what counts as the "center" that even policies that once counted as socialistic are now considered middle-of-the-road.

And that's the same agenda visible in this op-ed piece. To the casual reader, who only sees the meta-message of any news story, it seems patently obvious that the entire purpose of E.J.'s piece was to reinforce in the American public's mind the new notion that Socialism is "center-left", while anything to the right of Socialism edges toward extremism.

Why? Could it be that, since the political platforms of people like Obama and Edwards are pretty similar to that of Royal, the biased media needs to make sure no one gets the wrong idea that they're pushing watered-down neo-Socialism?

Gone are the days when such Lakoff-esque transparent attempts to "re-frame the debate" would go undetected, or have the desired effect on the reader. Now, all such subtle propaganda does is make people snort in derision at the media's ham-handed attempts at indoctrination.

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If you already do have an account at the Washington Post, and can view the comment page, and like my rant, then click the "recommend" link, to send the editors a message!

106 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:13:41pm

Zombie
How do I recommend your article, I couldn't figure it out!
Guess I'm dumb.
I'm registered at the Wapo.

107 RTLM  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:18:53pm

#105 jackanape

The left has framed the debate so that any position other than theirs is reactionary, cruel, fascist and worst of of all, capitalist.

Oh - and throw illegal in there too.

108 zombie  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:21:47pm
#106 MigueldowninMexico
How do I recommend your article, I couldn't figure it out!

Right underneath my comment (which is the seventh comment down on this page) is a link that says "Recommend" or "Recommended." Just click on it!

If you don't see the "Recommend" link, then no big deal; don't spend a bunch of time trying to figure it all out. It's just a quickie jab to the gut to the MSM.

109 DesertSage  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:23:13pm

I wish I could write like Zombie.

110 zombie  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:25:26pm

Oh great -- a new comment directly under mine at the WaPo site is from an unapologetic Socialist, who repeats worn-out lies.

Sigh.

111 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:27:36pm

Zombie
Yeah, I saw your comment with no prob, but there never was a "recommend" button even after refreshing, etc.
But a balance has two sides, so I reported the comment right below yours as a blatant lie and false information.

/Digg, undigg, if you get my meaning lol

I want to congratulate you heartly once more for all the wonderful work you do! :)

112 Live4Truth  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:33:01pm

The "youths" are given the dignified title of "protesters". Literally, that means "to testify on behalf of".

But, c'mon, MSM. Do you really think that these "youths" know ANYTHING other than how fun it is to run wild in a gang, destroying anything and everything in their path?

Reminds me of the riots in LA about ten years ago, supposedly over the Rodney King verdict. Those "protesters" were a bunch of kids with big smiles on their faces, breaking in to private property to steal new sneakers and boom boxes. They couldn't care less about Rodney King or what he did. It was just an excuse to run wild, break things, and steal stuff. But the MSM couldn't bring themselves to say that.

113 demohypocrates  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:33:39pm

My first post here. I have been glued to this site for the last few years. LGF is one of the most revealing sites on the internet. Always a daily read. Thank you, CJ. Interestingly enough, tomorrow I am headed to Paris on my honeymoon. In a couple of weeks, I'll talk about it on my blog, and if I see anything interesting, I'll send here.

To everyone here, keep up the activism. We have a way of life we are protecting.

114 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:34:38pm

Eco-Extremist Wants World Population to Drop below 1 Billion

Apparently, saving the whales is more important than saving 5.5 billion people. Paul Watson, founder and president of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and famous for militant intervention to stop whalers, now warns mankind is “acting like a virus” and is harming Mother Earth.

/maybe he could start by killing himself

115 zombie  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:35:22pm
#111 MigueldowninMexico
Yeah, I saw your comment with no prob, but there never was a "recommend" button ... I reported the comment right below yours as a blatant lie and false information.

That's good enough!

I want to congratulate you heartly once more for all the wonderful work you do! :)

Thanks!

Now, if only I could figure out what this "work" is! Everything I do seems to fall into a different category from the thing that came before.

116 zombie  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:40:22pm
#113 demohypocrates

Interestingly enough, tomorrow I am headed to Paris on my honeymoon. In a couple of weeks, I'll talk about it on my blog, and if I see anything interesting, I'll send here.

Well, if you take any juicy pictures of rioting "youths" or Sarko-babes or other politigallic splendor, do email it to me from Paris and maybe we can work it into a report somehow! (There's an email link for me on my Friendship Fries page.)

And welcome to the club!

117 DesertSage  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:41:44pm

#110 zombie

Oh, that comment below yours is priceless.

I refuse to register over there, but if I could comment I would rebut Olliecat16 with the record of every attack on Americans by Islamists during the entire Clinton presidency.

The outright revisionist history propagated by the Lefties has caused incalculable damage to this country.

Socialism, when extrapolated to it's inevitable conclusion, is a disaster, as proven by the fall of the Soviet Union.

118 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:43:24pm
119 zombie  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:45:14pm
#114 Killian Bundy

Eco-Extremist Wants World Population to Drop below 1 Billion

That's actually a pretty common position in certain circles on the Left. Eric Pianka, a professor at U of Texas at Austin, has been advocating a more extreme version of that for years. He wants us down to about 5 million.

120 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:45:55pm

zombie
That is exactly your work! Being so flexible and capable.

Killian
He could start by killing himself? ROFL!

Demohypocrates
Welcome!

121 BenZacharia  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:47:00pm

demo...

Mazel Tov!

122 zombie  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:47:03pm

Er, I mean 500 million. Half what the other anti-humanity guy suggests.

It's Pentti Linkkola who wants us down to 5 million. I'm getting my eco-extremists mixed up!

123 victor_yugo  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:49:42pm

#114 Killian Bundy:

Environmentalism, as an end unto itself, is a religion, with Al Gore as its Chief Priest, repentance via carbon offsets, and redemption through the Kyoto Protocol. He let slip the mask at a recent convention.

/blog pimp

124 zombie  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:50:04pm
#109 DesertSage
I wish I could write like Zombie.

#117 DesertSage

...
The outright revisionist history propagated by the Lefties has caused incalculable damage to this country.

...

You don't need to write like me -- you write perfectly well in your own style! Me like.

125 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:51:05pm

I want ME AND MY FAMILY alive!

I came down to about 15... *proud smile*

126 cbinflux  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:52:10pm
127 DesertSage  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:57:13pm

From Olliecat16:

It's just that we've been beaten over the head by filthy-rich greedy Republicans for so many years screaming Europe is worn out and run down to the core because of Socialism and we just accept the lies after they've been repeated a trillion times.

"filthy-rich greedy Republicans"?

Talk about a lie that has been repeated a trillion times.

I live in CA, the land of filthy rich, spoiled moonbats. CA is a blue state!
The Leftist/Marxist/Socialist/Liberal housewives that live here go shopping all day while driving their gas guzzling SUV's. Or they go to day spas, while they leave the kids with the nanny.

How many housewives in Oklahoma go to day spas or shopping all day?

Oklahoma is a red state.
California is a blue state.

This canard about Republicans being "filthy rich" is so baseless it's almost pointless to try to debunk it.

128 Sharmuta  Mon, May 7, 2007 11:59:20pm

119 zombie

That's actually a pretty common position in certain circles on the Left. Eric Pianka, a professor at U of Texas at Austin, has been advocating a more extreme version of that for years. He wants us down to about 5 million.

Well then, you'd think they'd welcome global warming.

129 DesertSage  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:00:10am

#124 zombie

Thank you Zombie, but you're still my hero.

:')

130 victor_yugo  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:02:17am

BenZacharia, OT question for you:

What is the word-for-word translation of "dvar ha'shem"?

131 DesertSage  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:06:04am
132 victor_yugo  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:09:45am

From the Telegraph front page:

Lizard's spit leads to diabetes drug

I knew we were good for something! :-)

133 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:10:19am

I was blown away!
Parent of the Year!

134 zombie  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:13:25am

Speaking of Friendship Fries...

I've now got four photo submissions and 25 links on the ol' F.F. headquarters page! Got a ton of traffic from various linkages from popular sites. I want it to take on a life of its own!

Yesterday, a few people here were questioning the whole point of the Friendship Fries concept. Perhaps it needs a bit of explanation.

There is a hidden strategy to my triviality.

I don't expect anyone to seriously rename French Fries to Friendship Fries. And I think the whole "Freedom Fries" frenzy of 2003 was ridiculous to begin with.

HOWEVER...

The entire purpose of the Friendship Fries project is to induce clinical depression among pretentious leftists. Because, as anyone who lives in an upscale urban area (like the SF Bay Area) knows, the Left loves everything French. France symbolizes everything that is the antithesis of the knuckle-dragging redneck: it is sophisticated, liberal, hip, anti-American, has a lax moral code, is fashion-conscious, artistic, post-modern, yadda yadda. The Left has literally for decades regarded France as the perfect country, their best friend on the international stage. Whenever an American uper-middle-class leftie can't stand the United States for one more minute, they always fantasize about running away to France, where the wine is good, the women loose, and communism is still taken seriously.

"But what's this? They elected someone to the right of Bush? And now the wingnuts are claiming France as their best friend?!? What shall we do? The Right has snatched away our last refuge -- our mental image of hipster France!"

it is right about here that I hope clinical depression sets in. I want to induce paralysis among the moonbats. A doomed feeling of "nowhere left to turn." And the way to bring this about is to steal France away from them.

Judging from some of the links I'm getting in the leftosphere, the plan has started to work already!

135 Salem  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:15:01am

I think it's quite possible that a massive terrorist attack is being planned against France. I don't think I'm going out on a limb with that assumption. But with Sarkozy in power, it's likely to backfire on the terrorists in a big way. Still, the chaos could be breathtaking if this happens. We could see what happens in France in the aftermath of this repeated in countries around the world regardless of whether those countries have suffered a big attack or not. Those countries might try to learn from whatever mistakes France will inevitably make to bring things under control, but they may not get to choose. When France cracks down on it's muslims, muslims all around the world will take to the streets and dare their host governments to do the same, which they will as often as not be forced to.

136 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:18:58am

zombie
Car-B-Q Fries?

137 demohypocrates  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:20:10am

zombie 5/07/2007 11:40:22 pm PDT

#113 demohypocrates
Interestingly enough, tomorrow I am headed to Paris on my honeymoon. In a couple of weeks, I'll talk about it on my blog, and if I see anything interesting, I'll send here.

Well, if you take any juicy pictures of rioting "youths" or Sarko-babes or other politigallic splendor, do email it to me from Paris and maybe we can work it into a report somehow! (There's an email link for me on my Friendship Fries page.)

And welcome to the club!

Thanks Zombie. I have watched your photospreads from the beginning. Keep up the great work. I will send when I can. I hope my rental car doesnt get torched.

138 WrathofG-d  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:21:03am

OT:

Reuters equivalency watch: Despite doing everything they can to make it seem as if the Phakestinian rocket hitting an Israeli home was a mistake, Reuters makes sure to equate an Israeli response that removed a rocket firing team with the Terrorists attack on civilians.

Way to go Reuters. Way to go.

139 DesertSage  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:21:59am
...it is right about here that I hope clinical depression sets in.

zombie is a diabolical evil genius...

...I like it!

140 NhaTrang72  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:26:21am

If the yutes really & truly need to trash a city in France, Nantes will do at least as well as un autre ville.

Look up 'dump' in a Franco-Anglo translation and you get 'Nantes'

...and last but not least, the Savior of France is a Hungarian

141 Salem  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:30:29am
...and last but not least, the Savior of France is a Hungarian

Well, that might mean something if he was loyal to Hungary, but otherwise...

142 zulubaby  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:30:31am
The entire purpose of the Friendship Fries project is to induce clinical depression among pretentious leftists. Because, as anyone who lives in an upscale urban area (like the SF Bay Area) knows, the Left loves everything French. France symbolizes everything that is the antithesis of the knuckle-dragging redneck: it is sophisticated, liberal, hip, anti-American, has a lax moral code, is fashion-conscious, artistic, post-modern, yadda yadda. The Left has literally for decades regarded France as the perfect country, their best friend on the international stage. Whenever an American uper-middle-class leftie can't stand the United States for one more minute, they always fantasize about running away to France, where the wine is good, the women loose, and communism is still taken seriously.

"But what's this? They elected someone to the right of Bush? And now the wingnuts are claiming France as their best friend?!? What shall we do? The Right has snatched away our last refuge -- our mental image of hipster France!"

it is right about here that I hope clinical depression sets in. I want to induce paralysis among the moonbats. A doomed feeling of "nowhere left to turn." And the way to bring this about is to steal France away from them.

zombie, one of your evenmoresothanusual brilliant posts. You're a rock or a tree or something magnificent.

143 DesertSage  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:38:00am

This asshole is a Hungarian also...

144 NhaTrang72  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:41:09am

I've been trying to make the point for months that France was a relatively 'diverse' society for a century or more before the Moose-lims began arriving in Large Numbers in the Seventies

That diversity, though, was European: Slavs and Germans and Magyars and other Latin nations ( along with the occasional Irishman or Scando )provided France with a steady stream of immigrants since the beginning of the 20th Century.

But lately, the Stream changed

145 shiplord kirel  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:43:35am

OT for Science-Fiction fans and libertarians:

Robert A. Heinlein died on this day in 1988.

146 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:51:11am
147 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:51:37am

and the secret word for today is...

[Link: www.khaaan.com...]

148 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:58:26am

Good Morning Dead Threaders!

Barnard College (which is across the street from Columbia University) is considering granting tenure to Assistant Professor of Anthropology Nadia Abu al-Haj. Ms. al-Haj denies that the ancient Jewish or Israelite kingdoms existed. "What was considered to have been ancient Jewish national existence and sovereignty in their homeland" is "a tale best understood as the modern nation’s origin myth… transported into the realm of history." The Hasmonean and Davidic dynasties are a mere "belief," an "ideological assertion," a "/pure /political fabrication."

More about al-Haj and how you can register your protest here.

149 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:59:17am
150 zulubaby  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:02:48am

song_and_dance_man, wassup? Long time ...

151 haakondahl  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:09:53am

#87 RGBDJ

Results 1 - 20 of about 16,500 for beslan. (0.12 seconds)

152 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:12:40am
153 victor_yugo  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:13:02am

#145 Shiplord Kirel:

His ashes went into space with James Doohan's.

154 Salem  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:14:32am
and the secret word for today is...

I love Shatner, but seeing that reminds me how bloated he's looking these days. Poor guy. Poor unbelievably rich pop-culture icon.

155 uptight  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:15:42am

The left have no dignity, respect, integrity or moral values.

Why should anyone expect them to accept defeat gracefully?

Rioting becuase they lose an election is just an honest expression of their "culture" - along with the demonizing of their opponent which, i presume, is about to go into hyperdrive.

156 Flavia  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:16:28am

#130, victor_yugo

"d'var HaShem" means "(to) talk (of/about) G-d."

(I tried sending you a message, but it didn't work)

157 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:17:24am

Carl
Tell that to the 2.2 billion (yeah, a lot more than the muslims) Christians who have the history of the Kingdom of Israel since Saul down, and of both Israel and Juda when they were two kingdoms. And the Babylon Captivity, etc. etc. etc.
And our Bible is completely faithful to the old copies, as Qum Ram proved beyond doubt.

She is an ignorant lier.

158 victor_yugo  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:19:53am

#148 Carl in Jerusalem:

Classic Freudian projection. Her own "nation"'s origins (Is Islam a race? Only to the bottom) are finally coming to light, for all the world to see. She wants to distract us by re-directing against those who expose Islam's self-hobbling "professional victim" mentality.

/diagram *that* sentence!

159 victor_yugo  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:28:30am

Thanks, Flavia, but I'm looking for a literal, exact-meaning translation for "shem". I know that "shema" means "listen", and "d'var" means "name" ("thing-word")... I'm just having a hard time tracking down a literal translation of "shem".

160 WrathofG-d  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:28:48am

Carl:

Can one really stop this attack on reality? Or it is all just a race to the inevitable? In order for the U.S. to "finally" come to be just another nation that hates the Jewish people and turns on Israel, the morons who pervert history and deny reality, just because it deals with Am Yisroel, (but parades as having to do with Eretz Yisroel,) must be put into positions of power and education. Can anyone deny that this is happening NOW?

Those who used to stand strong with Truth, Israel, and the Jewish people turned on her first (ie: Democrats/Gov) This was a shining sign or the future, for anyone willing to see. Then next comes the houses of education. They will turn (are turning) against reality and Truth and instead to P.C. mythology and anti Jew sentiment. (Incidently, this is very similar to the tract that Nazi Germany took, Goverment, then Education...)

In two generations the Holocaust will no longer be taught, (see: England) or they will have "re-examined" it, to show it wasn't really all that bad, or "just an excuse for the State of Israel) They will then discredit any Jewish connection to Israel, and teach that there is no Israeli legitamacy. Thus, ensuring that any/every future generation of American will HATE Israel (Am and Eretz).

The world (including the U.S.) will then turn all as one against Israel (Am and Eretz)...

You are probably more religious/knowledgeable than I...you know our prophets.

161 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:29:14am
163 Salem  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:36:47am

Fox News: Missing St. Louis University student found safe

164 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:38:14am
165 zulubaby  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:39:20am
#161 song_and_dance_man 5/08/2007 1:29:14 am PDT

zulubaby

If I may, I will use your quote in song. It moves me. Magnificent.

That's really touching, and with my pleasure.

You're in a new town? Update me please, I'm so out of the loop. I'm very happy to hear that things are going well for you!

166 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:39:32am

Wrath
Sorry, I insist. To erase the memory of Am Yisrael, they would have to burn all Bibles on earth. Of which there are approximately 2 billion.
Perhaps 100 million in the USA alone, if not more.

167 victor_yugo  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:41:06am

Ah! I just got your message, Flavia.

168 victor_yugo  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:42:48am

#166 Miguel:

I once heard the Christian Bible described as "the most-bought, least-read book on the planet."

169 freetoken  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:44:49am

The socialist candidate warned this would happen... maybe you all should listen to socialists more when they say something?

On a related note, this is from yesterday but in case someone missed it:
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

170 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:46:02am

Victor
Most bought, yesm for sure.
Least read I wouldn't say that. I've read the Bible thru 3 times and parts of it many times.
If 50 million of the 2.2 billion have read the Bible, that makes it one of the most read books in the world. ;)

171 infidel4ever  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:46:22am

148 Carl in Jerusalem

Ms. al-Haj denies that the ancient Jewish or Israelite kingdoms existed.

Archeologists unearth Herod's tomb

The grave and tomb of King Herod has been discovered at Herodian, the Hebrew University of Jerusalem announced Monday.
...

Known as the "great builder," Herod was the king of Judea from 37 to 4 BCE. Among the his major achievements were the significant expansion of the Second Temple, the building of Caesarea port, and the rebuilding of Masada.
...
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Probably another figment of the Israeli imagination...

172 victor_yugo  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:56:32am

#169 freetoken:

We were listening. We also called it what it was: a threat, blackmail, bald-faced, a transparent attempt to bully the voters.

Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and their ilk use the same tack.

Ever heard of Vladimir Ulyanov? Actually, I'm sure you have, by his more popular name: "Lenin." He used the same rhetoric device.

Guess who else uses it?

173 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:58:11am

Good morning!
Fruit Cup--->
Coffee--->


This Day in History:
Tuesday, May 8, 2007

1429 - French troops under Joan of Arc rescues Orleans
1492 The first printed edition of Mishnayot with Maimonides' commentary was published in Naples
1521 - Diet of Worms installs edict against Marten Luther
1541 - Hernando de Soto discovers Mississippi River
1559 An act of supremacy defines Queen Elizabeth I as the supreme governor of the church of England.
1639 - William Coddington founds Newport RI
1660 - English parliament asks King Charles II to resigns
1792 - British Capt George Vancouver sights, names Mt Rainier, Wash
1792 - US establishes military draft
1794 - US Post Office established
1846 - 1st major battle of M‚xican War fought at Palo Alto Texas
1847 - Robert Thompson patents rubber tire
1858 - John Brown holds antislavery convention
1861 - Richmond Va, is named the capital of the Confederacy
1864 - Battle of Antietam, VA (Spotslyvania Court House, Laurel Hill)
1871 - English-US treaty ends Alabama dispute
1877 - 1st Westminster Dog Show held
1886 - Jacob's Pharmacy in Atlanta sells 1st Coca-Coke (contained cocaine)
1895 - China cedes Taiwan to Japan under Treaty of Shimonoseki
1900 - Galveston Texas, hit by hurricane; about 6,000 die
1914 The Smith-Lever Act is passed by Congress. It establishes agricultural extension services in the counties of each state and government funded vocational education.
1916 A 17-year-old black, Jesse Washington, was arrested and charged with bludgeoning to death 53-year-old Lucy Fryer, the wife of a white farmer, 7 miles south of Waco, TX. On May 15, after a short trial, he was lynched by a mob and burned to death. This "Waco Horror" was the most notorious of the 492 lynchings in Texas from 1882 to 1930.
1926 - A Philip Randolph organizes Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters
1942 - Aircraft carrier Lexington sunk by Japanese air attack at Coral Sea
1945 - Gen Von Keitel surrenders to Marshal Zhukov
1945 - V-E Day; Germany signs unconditional surrender, WW II ends in Europe
1950 - Chiang Kai-shek asks US for weapons
1952 - Mad Magazine debuts
1954 French are defeated in Vietnam at a terrible cost (1.3 million Vietnamese and 95,000 French dead). It is reported that the US funded three fourths of the cost of this war. Vietnam is divided into North and South.
1958 - Pres Eisenhower orders National Guard out of Central HS, Little Rock
1958 - VP Nixon is shoved, stoned, booed & spat upon by protesters in Peru
1960 - USSR & Cuba resume diplomatic relations
1963 - JFK offers Israel assistance against aggression
1968: Krays held on suspicion of murder
1970 - Beatles release "Let it Be" album
1972 - Sabena aircraft at Lod Intl, Tel Aviv, captured by Palestinians
1972 : Mining of North Vietnamese harbors is announced
1973 - Indians holding SD hamlet of Wounded Knee for 10 weeks surrender
1974 - Canada govt of Trudeau falls
1977 - David Berkowitz pleads guilty in "Son of Sam" 44-caliber shootings
1980 - World Health Organization announced smallpox had been eradicated
1984 - USSR announces it will not participate in LA Summer Olympics

174 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:00:15am

Born on this Day:
1737 - Edward Gibbon, England, historian (Decline & Fall of Roman Empire)
1753 Miguel Hidalgo, Mexican nationalist.
1814 - Mikhail Alexandrovich Bakunin, anarchist
1828 - Jean Henri Dunant
author; philanthropist: founder of Red Cross Society; died Oct 30, 1910
1884 - Harry S Truman, Lamar Missouri, 33rd US President (D) (1945-1953)
1895 - Fulton J Sheen, El Paso Ill, bishop (Life is Worth Living)
1926 - Don Rickles, Queens NY, comedian
1934 - Sonny Liston, US heavyweight boxing chmap (1962-64)
1940 - Ricky (Eric Hilliard) Nelson
actor: The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet, Rio Bravo, Wackiest Ship in the Army, Love and Kisses; singer: I’m Walkin’, Be-Bop Baby, Poor Little Fool, Lonesome Town, Never Be Anyone Else But You, Travelin’ Man, Garden Party; Rock and Roll Hall of Famer [1987]; killed in plane crash Dec 31, 1985

Died on this Day:

1873 - John Stuart Mill, great Empiricist philosopher, dies at 66
1880 - Gustave Flaubert, French writer (Salammb“), dies
1887 - Alexander Ulyanov, brother of Lenin/hanged for assassination of tsar

175 littleoldlady  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:03:19am

Hi.

;-)

176 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:07:18am

"waving"

How is everyone?

"semi-comatose"

177 victor_yugo  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:09:14am

Bedtime for Bonzo.

'nite all.

178 littleoldlady  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:10:18am

We're nuts. How's by you?

179 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:12:03am

Rare surprise for Yakima man: a forest of stone

What makes Friend's find worth more than money is the fact that the ancient trees are still upright, said Thomas Dillhoff, a curatorial associate at the University of Washington's Burke Museum. Dillhoff has visited Friend often and acquired several pieces of his petrified wood for scientific study.

180 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:13:33am

Nuts here too.

Is MeanNasty studying for tests?

or is that a lost cause now?

181 infidel4ever  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:14:46am

#172 victor_yugo

"a threat, blackmail, bald-faced, a transparent attempt to bully the voters."

Guess who else uses it?

Leftist moonbats all over the world. Want another example? Before the Dutch referendum on the EU constitution Dutch voters were warned that if they did not vote 'yes' Europe would again be plagued by wars, just like in the past.

Meanwhile, those same leftist moonbats are importing followers of Mo, the 7th century Janjaweed, by the tens of thousands. How stupid can you get?

182 Salem  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:16:33am

Figures. The two dead-threaders who don't always snub me show up, and I'm bed-bound. Oh cruel fate.

183 littleoldlady  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:17:19am
or is that a lost cause now?

Completely. The only one making them do actual work is her English teacher. The rest are engaging in happyfuntime busy work. Count-down to beginning of senior project - 9 days.

184 littleoldlady  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:17:58am

Hi-and-bye, Salem?

:-(

185 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:18:15am

Airline accused of helping Nazis to flee

The existence of a shadowy network of Nazi sympathisers helping to organise the escape route was depicted in Frederick Forsyth’s novel The Odessa File.

Suspected war criminals could not obtain official papers to leave Germany. But some adopted false identities, and KLM acknowledges that some of its passengers were probably fleeing Nazis. It insists, however, that its role was not to police its passengers but to carry those who turned up with valid papers who had completed airport security checks by the Allied authorities.

186 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:19:09am

183 littleoldlady

Did she take the government test yesterday?

187 Salem  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:21:24am

So that missing student from St. Louis was found safe, so that should brighten everyone up. At least it's not bad news.

Well, see you ladies later. Goodnort!

Night. Goodnight...

188 littleoldlady  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:22:49am

Was the test yesterday?

;-)

189 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:24:06am

Yep, it was yesterday.

So, I guess that means she did not take it at all.

"sigh"

190 littleoldlady  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:26:48am

St. Pancake,

She didn't feel as though she had a handle on the material. I think this started in November.

/senioritis - it's not pretty

191 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:27:53am

190 littleoldlady
/senioritis - it's not pretty

Nope, it isn't.

"sighing heavily"

192 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:30:55am
I am talking about Turkey and Iran, distant cousins living through similar internal upheavals at this point. Clashes inside both are coalescing around the headscarf and its implications. Both are also having to confront outsider enemies loaded with prejudices and malign intent. As Turkey pushes to become a legitimate member of the EU club, it becomes a "problem" and is seen as an enemy within. Meanwhile, George Bush's war-mongering cabal is getting itchy to go bomb Iran.


Our universities do nothing as Muslim women are compelled or pulled into wearing head and body covers. We do not defend our secular state. They do in Turkey, though some with unwarranted viciousness, which is self-defeating. I hope they can save their country's political pillars being lent on with such strength by Islamicists. They still have a chance and can avoid, I hope, the charms of the Iranian Islamic idyll. We must, too.

In We are Iran, by Nasrin Alavi, a riveting collection of observations by young Iranians, one young man writes: "Europe struggled for five centuries to banish religion and superstition from political and social life, making a lot of sacrifices along the way. We must make this hard and hazardous journey ourselves. There are no chains harder than the chains of religion and tradition ..." Just as Turks want to push towards the Islamic republic, refugees from the Iranian Islamic republic are trying to reach the embrace of secularism. I hope they meet.

Yasmin Alibhai-Brown: Turkey's battle for secularism is ours too

193 freetoken  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:33:25am

#173 St. Pancake
Here are some more, not from quite as politically correct list as yours...

There is more to May 8:

1884: Harry S Truman was born, who would be president on the same date in 1945 for VE day.

1904: U.S. Marines land in Tangier, North Africa, to protect the Belgian legation. The importance of the USMC in Tangier would of course be the hunt for Raisuli, supposed descendent of Mohammed, and kidnapper par excellence (Is it ok to use French words again?). For more of the story, see:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...] . America has been at war is Islam before, lest we forget...

1967: Boxer Muhammad Ali is indicted for refusing induction in U.S. Army.

1995: Jacques Chirac is elected president of France.


War, Islam, France... all in a day, 8 May.

194 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:37:27am

Freetoken
I did have some of those, but LGF would not take them as my list was originally longer.

:)

Today is also the day that Padilla was indicted.

Moves to ban imam from mosque

ELEANOR HALL: The ACT Islamic Society is in court today seeking an order to ban an imam from a Canberra mosque after a wild brawl inside the mosque left a man hospitalised.

It's alleged the followers of Imam Sheik Mohammed Swaiti bashed a member of the society because they were angry the society sacked Sheik Swaiti, who has led the Abu Bakr Mosque for the past 13 years.

195 Spionator  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:37:40am

#134 zombie -

The entire purpose of the Friendship Fries project is to induce clinical depression among pretentious leftists.

Oh, you actually are one of them, only wired the other way round, something must have bitten you during your reporting.

The only problem I have with leftists is that they want to achieve the universal good by such dishonest means.

For some reason, this never produces the intended results.

196 freetoken  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:42:49am

#194 St. Pancake

I just thought they were particularly relevant given the original topic of the thread...

197 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:47:49am

LoLady
Is MeanNasty going to take any test?

198 Greg  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:49:47am

I understand ole' Sarko' get the presidental sash on May 16th...

Your asshats RoPers and deathworshipping moonbats got 8 more days and an asswhipping is coming after that.

It would be nice to see some grapeshot and some genuine asskicking by the gendarmes.

199 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:50:34am

Students are urged to apply early for visas - Dhimmi Department(Remember - apply early and often)

Just what we friggin need. It's lookin to be another one of those wonderful days in zee zones.

Mornin folks.

200 littleoldlady  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:52:04am

St. P,

That was her only AP course, and I have no idea if the teachers are giving any tests in the next few days.

She's already handed in her math book, so what does that tell you?

/do teachers get senioritis, too?

201 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:52:28am

Ethiopia refuses to release Swedes

Ethiopia has rebuffed a request from Sweden that three Swedes detained for several months on suspicion of terrorist acts be freed, insisting that they stand trial, the government said Monday.
The Ethiopian government announced in early May that it was holding 41 people of 17 nationalities arrested in Somalia on suspicion of "terrorism".

202 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:54:02am

/do teachers get senioritis, too?

Not allowed to here. We have officials roaming the campus. :)

Does she not have school until end of May?
Hmmm...

203 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:57:40am
204 Confuzed  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:00:20am

First thing Sarkozy should do is take back the 751 areas of France that are so dangerous that the police don't even go there.

Click here for the French government website listing all 751 areas along with maps and street addresses where Infidels dare not wander, lest they risk the beheading.

205 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:01:24am

Hello everyone!

Well, you knew it was coming...

Verizon to offer TV on cellphones (lucky Tampa area gets to start it off).

No. 2 U.S. cellular firm Verizon Wireless this week launches a new kind of TV on cell phones in Tampa that offers a range of live TV channels such as Nickelodeon, Fox News and ESPN.

206 St. Pancake  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:02:24am

205 gettinby

Morning, and nice to see you.

Am reading Carl's post before I leave.

207 freetoken  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:03:45am

Here is one that flew in under the radar:

Sen. Kerry Seeks to Block Bristol Bay Leasing Plan
[Link: www.rigzone.com...]

Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) introduced legislation Friday to block Interior Department plans to sell oil and gas leases in Alaska's Bristol Bay, joining several House lawmakers trying to thwart the plan.

Now, I for one do not believe the US can be truly independent of oil imports, as long as we use as much oil as we do now... and USGS estimates for Alaska oil aren't really sufficient to do much for US oil supply, but still... every little bit helps and would keep fewer $$$ being sent to unfriendly nations.

Note that the Congressmen involved are NOT from Alaska - one would think the local politicians would be concerned if there were a real problem.

208 littleoldlady  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:04:16am

St. Pancake,

Last day of classes is May 18. Then 3 weeks for the Senior Project, prom and graduation.

OY. My head hurts, and I have to get moving...

Good day, ALL!™

209 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:04:35am

My senior year was decades ago. I do recall that our last two weeks included doing not much of anything. The only seniors doing any testing were those who failed a "civics-type test" required for graduating.

/those were the days...*sigh*
/no thanks, don't want to go back.

211 Carridine  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:13:47am

#195 Spionator:

The only problem I have with leftists is that they want to achieve the universal good by such dishonest means.

A very interesting insight.

I thank you for articulating it!

G'morning, Santo Pancakko!
Buono demenyatza, Lil Olde Ladye!

212 transferthem  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:14:37am

Sarkozy said they were scum. They never stop proving him right.

I suggest that rioters lose their social security entitlements permanently.

If that doesn't stop them, revoke citizenship to muspigs who riot, then deport them.

Finally, declare marshall law in parts of Paris and other cities affected by riots - dawn to dusk crfew, rioters get shot.

Once the message gets through these measures can be eased. If it doesn't, just keep shooting til they run out of rioters.

213 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:17:05am

Hello to you St. Pancake...

/the good news is..it's almost over for a little while? :)

Good day to you, too, littleoldlady!

214 Carridine  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:17:43am

#207 Free Tokin' : Concur Yr Analysis!

Kerry's stabbing America in the back, low-down, where America's Achilles tendon is...


"No American Energy Self-Dependence!" said Kerry, emphasising that "...such self dependence would threaten America's friends, the Saudis..."
215 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:23:51am

Since I love space "stuff"

Recent Supernova in Class by Itself

...and awestruck researchers are a little excited about what might happen to the similarly enormous and unstable star closer to home.

If that star, Eta Carinae, blows up like the one just discovered, they said, it could spew dangerous radiation toward Earth. More likely, however, it would erupt into the most luminous star in our sky, visible during the day and bright enough to let people read unaided at night

Talk about your globalwhatevering!

216 3 wood  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:24:34am

Good Morning Lizards.

Regarding the topic, if you recall I always advise taking econometric numbers from socialistic/communistic countries with a grain of salt. That is because the basis of their system is a fraud, so the the government spins the numbers to get a favorable report. Similarly, one should also look at the news reporting from the same countries with the same doubting eyes.

217 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:27:53am

Good morning, Lizards.

218 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:29:21am

General Petraeus and the heroic forces he leads may yet pull out a miracle in Iraq, but we must face the possibility that forces beyond their control may lead to our defeat in that sad country.

The terrorist demons know that they have to hold out but a few months and their allies in this country will end our involvement, consigning 27 million people to a dark age hell that will make Pol Pot's killing fields look like a love-in.

In that event, there will be no choice for the people of the anti-jihad but to continue the fight. The future of civilization itself is at stake.

Loyalists like those at LGF have spent the last 5 1/2 years identifying the enemy within. These enemies must not escape retribution as they did after they sold South Vietnam and Cambodia to Stalinist barbarians.

If the Battle of Iraq ends on enemy terms, the Battle of America will begin.

219 Carridine  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:32:16am

#215 GettinBy:

More likely, however, it would erupt into the most luminous star in our sky, visible during the day and bright enough to let people read unaided at night...

Think what the Rapturizers might say if THAT were to happen...

220 Carridine  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:36:12am

#218 Shiplord Kirel:
In that event, there will be no choice for the people of the anti-jihad but to continue the fight. The future of civilization itself is at stake.

Wouldn't THAT be something?

"With all due respect, Madame President, we'll stay here and fight with what we have, what we can find, what we can make and what we can capture, until our Iraqi friends and allies can protect themselves!

You may defund us, you may even send MORE TROOPS to try and bring us back, but WE believe in America, and will NOT DESERT our allies!"

222 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:46:20am

#219 Carradine

Think what the Rapturizers might say if THAT were to happen...

Something along the lines, President Bush caused this, or at the very least knew about it in advance and did nothing to stop it!

Off to work. Here's to a wonderful day for all!

223 Mike C.  Tue, May 8, 2007 3:49:11am

# 216 3 wood

Include statist kingdoms like SA in that group as well. They cook the books constantly.

224 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:00:34am

God, how the enemy beasts will gloat, from Berkeley and Boulder to Tehran, Peshawar, and Gaza if traitors can force our troops to abandon Iraq.

They will party like it's 999.

225 SpringheelJack  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:00:37am

Once he's in office and has his cabinet sworn in, there's one solution to media lack of attention: give press credentials to anybody who wants to set up a conservative alternative to left-wing media

See if Fox News wants to be embedded among the French Police

226 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:02:06am
227 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:03:16am

#218 Shiplord Kirel
Amen my Captain.

228 JamesTKirk  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:11:04am

#43 amphibian

Don't the French MSM have SDS (analogous to our own BDS)? Why are they under-reporting yout-caused car burnage when it is clearly All Sarkozy's Fault?

Because if they report the truth, it will lead to more Frenchmen supporting Sarkozy's plans to fight back. Much better to pretend that there is no threat, and that the evil fascists are overreacting and taking away civil liberties for nothing.

229 bp sf  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:11:17am

'Mornin' all.

OT question; it may have been discussed; would anyone know if savage_nation was quoted in a trucking article in the WSJ?

230 rin  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:12:43am

G'morning, dead thread.

231 Carridine  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:14:25am

#228 James T: Wow!
That makes sense, but it seems SO SCURRILOUS!

232 chief long name  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:16:51am

#207 freetoken
Trust me, if it were left to Alaskans there would be much more production of oil and gas coming out of this state. Unfortunately we can't compete with the interference of Outside intrests.

233 Carridine  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:22:35am

#232 Chief: Bummer, Injun!

The gas levels in Alaska could get better, if only we get rid of the DIPSTICKS in DC!

234 Carridine  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:23:31am

#230 : G'mawnin', Rin!

235 3 wood  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:27:37am

#223 Mikey

Include statist kingdoms like SA in that group as well. They cook the books constantly.


Yes, good point.

236 AMER1CAN  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:29:53am

Six Arrested In Alleged Terror Plot Against N.J. Soldiers

FIRST ON WNBC.COM: Investigators say six New Jersey men have been arrested in an alleged terror plot to kill soldiers in Fort Dix, N.J.

NEW YORK -- Six men from New Jersey have been arrested in an alleged terror plot against soldiers at Fort Dix, according investigators.

Investigators said the men planned to use automatic weapons to enter Fort Dix and kill as many soldiers as they could at the N.J. base. Fort Dix was just one of several military and security locations allegedly scouted by this group, authorities said.

Investigators told Newschannel 4's Jonathan Dienst that these arrests are the result of a tip to the FBI and use of an informant to track the suspects. The terror suspects traveled over the last several months from New Jersey to the Poconos where they practiced firing automatic weapons, investigators said.

Investigators said the group discussed targeting numerous locations like Dover Air base, Fort Monmouth and several Coast Guard stations before deciding on Fort Dix as their intended target. Fort Dix is run in part by the Army and is a reserve-training center, but active units take part in training, including some which focuses on counter-terrorism.

It is not clear how far along the alleged terror plot was, or when investigators first learned about it. Investigators said the group of suspects have been discussing and planning for much of the last year. They allegedly pooled their savings to pay for the operation that investigators said targeted soldiers stationed here at home.

The six suspects arrested Monday night will face terror conspiracy charges. Three of the men are brothers, all believed to be islamic radicals. Authorities have told Newschannel 4 that some of the men were born in Albania and the former Yugoslavia. Investigators said most of the suspects have spent several years here in the U.S.

Some of the group's alleged planning was caught on video and audio tape, investigators said.

Spokesmen for U.S. Attorney Chris Christie and the FBI in New Jersey and Philadelphia could not be reached for a comment.

237 Rin  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:33:01am

greetings, carridine.

please, the dipsticks in dc & everywhere else are just p*ssing me off. "we have to find other ways to produce energy, we can't keep drilling for oil & destroying nature". right, then you say ok & lets build a nuclear reactor & you get "oh, no. nimby. & nuclear energy is not the answer". so what the (explitive) is the answer? "i don't know". bah

238 ibmkeyboard  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:33:48am

morning thread a la deceased.

Hillary is Denying She could ever lose an election. Heh.

But as presidential candidate Ségolène Royal was defeated by a conservative man who had been France's chief law enforcement officer, the Clinton campaign was quick to dismiss comparisons between their candidate and her Socialist counterpart across the Atlantic. "Other than the fact that they are both women, they don't have much in common," said Howard Wolfson, Clinton's communications director.

Not what she said a couple of months ago.
But what a democrat said a couple of months ago doesn't count.

239 Rin  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:34:42am

#236 amer1can,

damn. there goes the neighborhood.

240 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:36:04am

If I may do a little gloating of my own, I have said several times over the last few years that I was not prepared to give up on the French.

March 14th 2007

"Yep. General Jacques Massu and the 10e Division de Parachutistes rampaged through Algiers within living memory. Massu lived until 2002, in fact.
Cultures don't change that much in 60 or a hundred or even two hundred years. The French may not be capable of quite the ruthlessness they showed in 1955, but that isn't saying much. The Crusader's mailed fist still lurks somewhere just beneath the velvet glove of multiculturalism. When the time comes, the world will be shocked at the suddenness and ferocity with which it is brought out. When the Europeans have finally had enough, the break will be sudden and complete. I would not want to be a woman-hating Salafist hoodlum when that day comes, even less a lefty collaborationist."

Is Sarkozy the new Charles Martel or, heaven forbid, the new Massu? Time will tell, but I suspect that it will not be a lot of time.

241 Carridine  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:38:39am

#237 Rin: the answer, that they are pushing for, is collapse of America and then the establishment of a Socialist American Workers' Paradise, where The State will take care of everyone:

a) the Productive People, all equal, all Comrades, get taxed

b) the lazy, incompetent, broken, ill or counter-revolutionary get axed

c) the ELITE, KEWL FOLKS run everything, for the benefit of the rest of us unwashed heathen.

There. Simple and clear.

242 Hucbald  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:43:27am

SIX ETHNIC ALBANIAN ISLAMIC TERRORISTS ARRESTED BY FEDS IN PLOT TO MURDER AS MANY SOLDIERS AS POSSIBLE AT FORT DIX.

Found Here.

243 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:43:44am

Victor_Yugo

Sorry, just got up.

Re: dvar Ha'Shem, literally "word of the name" (word of G-d).

דּבר (dabar*) dvar=word/of ha=the שׁם/shem=name (Ha'Shem, replacing the tetragrammaton, the name of the most high without vowel points)

*Abracadabra, comes from a Hebrew saying meaning "As my father would say"

244 Carridine  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:43:54am

#240 Shiplord: Stick by your guns.

I certainly hope your/our assessment of the true European heart is accurate!

245 zulubaby  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:44:22am

Shit.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

246 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:49:16am

Zulu...

Hamas's armed wing, Izzadin a-Kassam, has threatened to execute kidnapped IDF soldier Cpl. Gilad Schalit if the army enters Gaza, Israel Radio reported on Tuesday.

Try murder, as a POW he is a 'protected person' under Genava Convention.

247 bobthebuilder  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:49:45am

OT (which I've been doing too much lately)

Terror Suspects Arrested In N.J. After FBI Foils Fort Dix Attack

A tip helped authorities arrest six New Jersey men Monday night in connection to an apparent terror cell, according to NBC 10’s sister station WNBC in New York.

Five of them were arrested in Cherry Hill, according to reports.

Investigators said the men planned to use AK-47s to storm Fort Dix and open fire on soldiers and civilians stationed at the New Jersey base, noting that other military locations were scouted by the terrorist cell.

/liked Zombie's Wapo post
//looks at France and F@rts in their genral direction

248 zulubaby  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:51:52am

BenZacharia, like Hamas care about the Geneva Convention.

249 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:52:23am

#243 BenZacharia

No

Abracadabra is a bastardization of

HA BRACHA DEBARAH

SPEAK THE BLESSING

250 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:52:57am

SHAKA JEWLOOOoOooOOO!

251 Carridine  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:55:25am

#248 ZuluBabe: REALLY!

Hamas only wants whatever PROPAGANDA LEVERAGE they can squeeze out of that Israeli.

252 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:55:42am

If Charles does not run the Dix story I will
but I think he will...
I have to start waiting to put up threads, unles it is something I know he won;t run...twice now I put something up early and it was duplicated here, I don't want to duplicate stories from here accidentally like that all the time, makes it look like I am just doing a mirror site...
Things like Sarkozy's win don't count though.

253 zulubaby  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:56:11am

Oh my G-d, Babba, I just found the most fabulous link! [Link: blogcentral.jpost.com...]

254 3 wood  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:56:50am

#242 hucbald

SIX ETHNIC ALBANIAN ISLAMIC TERRORISTS ARRESTED BY FEDS IN PLOT TO MURDER AS MANY SOLDIERS AS POSSIBLE AT FORT DIX.

Something tells me there will be a few less posters at HuffPo today.

255 FrogMarch  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:57:11am

The punks would have been happy with Royal? France made the right decision.

256 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:57:15am

3 wood, lol!

257 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:57:54am

#253 zulubaby
Yes you did!
Woo Hoo!
Thanks

258 zulubaby  Tue, May 8, 2007 4:59:20am
#251 Carridine 5/08/2007 4:55:25 am PDT

#248 ZuluBabe: REALLY!

Hamas only wants whatever PROPAGANDA LEVERAGE they can squeeze out of that Israeli.

They're savages, evil.

259 zulubaby  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:00:47am

Babba, thought you'd like it :-) Enjoy!

260 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:02:59am

BZ

אב
'âb
awb
Abba (father)

אבה
âbâh
aw-baw',(would)

dvar
דּבר
dâbar
daw-bar'
(speak,say,word)

261 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:11:03am
262 wildcat_clan  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:11:12am

236 Amer1cain: Wasn't it the Christians we bombed in Yugoslavia to save the Muslims? No good deed goes unrewarded.

263 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:12:06am

How are you making the post have Hebrew in it?

I am such a computertard I wish I had more skill

264 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:13:11am

#262 wildcat_clan


236 Amer1cain: Wasn't it the Christians we bombed in Yugoslavia to save the Muslims? No good deed goes unrewarded.


Please ...now you will get me going on THAT shit again, LOL, and no one wants to hear my rants on THAT

265 zulubaby  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:16:06am

We don't want Condi here anyway.

266 wildcat_clan  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:16:42am

#264 BabbaZee: Mea Culpa, heh, sorry I missed your 1st rant :)

267 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:17:18am

BZ

Vitual Hebrew keyboard, looking for link.

268 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:17:33am

Zulu - I don't blame you!

269 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:18:42am

#266 wildcat_clan
I have a list of pieces I want to do on the blog once i can get it all set up the way i like it (still working on that )
That's one of them
That was the biggest war-swindle of all times IMO
the LIES are huge

270 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:20:09am

BZ

[Link: www.mechon-mamre.org...]

google virtual Hebrew keyboard

271 FrogMarch  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:21:45am

Ted Rall the "untalented and unfunny cartoonist makes fun of John McCain's years in the Hanoi Hilton. Rall is basically little more than pus in human form."

Ted Rall - - Democrat.

272 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:22:56am

COOL Ben, thanks!

273 wildcat_clan  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:24:39am

#269 BabbaZee: I will be interested to see what you have and will be on the lookout.

274 Rin  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:26:03am

babbazee,

i like the art on your site.

275 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:28:07am

Wildcat, thanks - when I do it, if I see you I'll let you know.

Rin~ Thanks so much. I have collected tons of images, now I get to use them...

276 FrogMarch  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:28:11am

John Murtha: Democrat/ Liar.

(I guess that's being redundant)

277 Rin  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:29:05am

hi, can anyone of the israeli's explain what's up with olmert?
from the wsj "olmert survived a series of Knesset confidence votes with an ease surprising in the wake of a report savaging his war leadership."

278 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:30:06am

Chinese to begin slant drilling into sovereign (yeah, like THAT term has meaning anymore!) US territory from Cuban waters.

Solution, drill on top of the destination of the slant drill terminus, destroy bore/bit/casing.

279 3 wood  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:32:29am

Economics Nerd Neighborhood:

*snicker*

These economics prognosticators make me laugh. Get a load of this article this morning on what the Federal Reserve is likely to do long term with interest rates:

Fed on hold, with more questions than answers
Only limited adjustments seen to statement

First off, they deal with the short term:

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The Federal Reserve is likely to hold its overnight interest rate target steady for the seventh straight meeting Wednesday, as the central bank is patiently waiting to see whether its forecast of a second-half pickup proves correct.

Translated into english, that means the Fed is not sure what to do, so they will sit pat.

Then comes the prognostication on the future. Get a load of this equivocation:

Economists are sharply divided about whether the next Fed move will be a rate cut or tightening. The majority of economists see the Fed modestly easing rates, although the timing is uncertain.

Translation - We don't know, but maybe rates will go up eventually. Wow, some insight there.

Then there is the opposite view:

On the other hand, Stanley of RBS Greenwich Capital believes the next move will be a rate hike.
"Our view is that the most likely change is that growth is going to pick up as the year wears on and with inflation remaining high and the unemployment rate remaining very low. We think that, ultimately, the next move is going to be a tightening," Stanley said.
Any move before August is unlikely, economists said, because Fed officials will not get final readings for the second quarter or initial readings on third quarter.

Translation - We don't know, but maybe rates will drop eventually.

*snicker*

Here's the real deal that none of these "experts" are willing to say. Not even the Fed knows ahead of time what they are going to do for sure. They look at core inflation when they meet. If they see the price level going up appreciably, they bump the discount rate up 0.25% and see what happens. If on the other hand they see prices dropping or stagnating, they bump the discount rate down 0.25% and see what happens. They don't mind a core inflation of 3% or less.

The Fed's goal is to maintain a stable price level (defined as 3% or less core inflation per year), pure and simple.

All the rest of the jargon is just empty rhetoric.

Now back to politics.

280 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:36:48am

BZ

Observation on your blog entry, properly Joshua was a Galilean/Nazarene not a Judean. Back in the day, ca. 1st century CE, people were refered to by the distict or city they were from.

281 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:40:58am

BZ

cont'd

Although being born in the city of the "house of bread", could make him a Judean.

282 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:42:29am

BZ

Another good keyboard

[Link: perso.orange.fr...]

283 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:46:36am

Ties Between Malaki (Iraqi PM) and Iranian Revolutionary Guards

David Horowitz at FrontPageMag is now running with the story.

"With 'friends' like this, who needs enemas?"

US mission in Iraq, "Making Iraq safe for Islamism, and nothing else."

284 Tricky Dick  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:47:57am

They should deport everyone that's arrested.

285 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:48:32am

Non-candidate Fred Thompson on abortion.

286 JammieWearingFool  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:50:50am

Morning all,

I wonder if any of these Jersey Jihadis are related to Sulejman the Mysterious from out in Utah?

287 Yank in the EU  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:52:13am

6 charged with plot to attack N.J. base

Six nationals of the former Yugoslavia were arrested on charges they plotted to attack the Fort Dix Army base and "kill as many soldiers as possible," federal authorities said Tuesday.


Don't want to jump hastily to conclusions, but this one has Islamists / jihad written all over it.

288 rin  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:53:24am

287 Yank
fox news

289 Mike C.  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:54:40am

# 278 BenZ

Bulls**t. The drilling in Cuban waters is exactly that - in Cuban waters.

290 Kenneth  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:56:47am

Good morning Lizardites!

You gotta love the media! All through the winter, while the Canadian troops in Afghanistan were constantly raiding Taliban bases and killing terrorists, our media ignored that story or if they covered it at all, it was spun as a desperate 'too-little-too-late' attempt to forestall the Feared Annual Taliban Spring Offensive (or "FATSO", as I have dubbed it)... which we were told would soon overrun the fragile cenral gov't in Kabul. We were warned, via convenient interviews with "fearsome Taliban warlords", that some 20,000 suicide bombers were ready to detonate on our hapless troops.

So it's spring now, and NATO troops have been killing & capturing the Taliban by the hundreds before they can even launch their "FATSO"... so what's a good reporter to do? Yup, you guessed it...

Living with an eerie silence

At a base near Kandahar City, does the quiet mean the Taliban are gone? Or lying in wait?
GRAEME SMITH

From Tuesday's Globe and Mail

Eegadds! The Taliban are using the deadly "Eerie Silence" tactic, and our brave troops might die of... boredom.

Actually Graeme, the Taliban are quiet because most of them are lying in shallow graves. That's because the NATO troops have been doing a great job. Which you might report on, if you weren't so busy stabbing them in the back.

291 Brees  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:57:00am

#47

I had no clue there was such a thing as a Sorry Everybody website. What a waste of America. Sorry, I'm profiling them. Should be more tolerant & diverse like them. Like when they protest & burn effigies against something/someone they do not understand & therefore fear.

Squeaker Nancy & Harry should fund them a trip to France, so they can protest elbow to elbow with their French "youths" brethren. Sure Harry has plenty to spare, from his real estate deals.

292 Yank in the EU  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:57:03am

rin:

Thanks. "Islamic radicals," indeed. My parents live in Charry Hill, where they lived. I know people who have been through Fort Dix.

I want these demons punished - harshly.

293 Yank in the EU  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:57:31am

Cherry, rather.

294 BobTheBuilder  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:59:16am

#252 BabbaZee

If Charles does not run the Dix story I will
but I think he will...
I have to start waiting to put up threads, unles it is something I know he won;t run...twice now I put something up early and it was duplicated here

West coast people ... sleep late. Surf and bike-ride all day ... what are ya gona do?

295 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 5:59:58am

Thanks Ben

BBL

296 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:00:28am

What will the French do- get rid of Sarkozy? If they don't see how bad things have gotten then they are so far up a certain creek.

297 BabbaZee  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:00:38am

Bob the B

LOL!


/later Lizardia!

298 mglazer  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:02:17am

Six islamic radicals Arrested In Terror Plot To Kill N.J. Soldiers

[Link: www.wnbc.com...]

The six suspects arrested Monday night will face terror conspiracy charges. Three of the men are brothers, all believed to be islamic radicals. Authorities have told Newschannel 4 that some of the men were born in Albania and the former Yugoslavia. Investigators said most of the suspects have spent several years here in the U.S.

Some of the group's alleged planning was caught on video and audio tape, investigators said.

Yeah, this will never happen in the USA - just a matter of time folks, wake up! buy guns, protect yourselves now, today!

299 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:02:54am

289 Mike C.

# 278 BenZ

Bulls**t. The drilling in Cuban waters is exactly that - in Cuban waters

International law states that property boundaries and borders extend from the stratosphere, or is it troposphere?, to the center of the earth, otherwise I could mine for gold by digging from my house under your house.

Or is it OK for the Mexicans to cross the border as long as it's under ground or on a plane?

The Rule of Capture and Other “Fugitive” Resources
Oil & Gas
Rule of Capture encourages exploitation of the natural resources, which we want.
Unitization has regulated the number of acres required for drilling and spreads the profits of the drill out between the owners. Maximum pumping efficiency instead of race to capture.
Slant drilling is trespass.

[Link: 209.85.165.104...]

300 Lawrence Schmerel  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:03:36am

“Your Honor, these two YOOTS, are innocent!”

My Cousin Vinnie

301 Yank in the EU  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:06:12am

#285 BenZacharia

I'm not sure when that was asked of Fred or how reputable that organization is, but Fred has recently stated that he takes a firmly pro-life / anti-abortion position.

302 Kenneth  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:07:01am

Last week a study from Johns Hopkins University reported on huge improvements in healthcare in Afghanistan, including a 40% drop in the infant mortality rate: but there was no coverage of this in the MSM. Now, here's another story the media won't be covering,
The World Bank's director for Afghanistan, Alastair McKechnie

..the Afghan economy has already achieved double-digit economic growth. It's been the fastest-growing economy in South Asia, if you look at the last five years. There's been some year-to-year fluctuation, particularly caused by agriculture as rainfall varies from year to year. But what these high rates of growth mean is that there is increasing prosperity, there is a recovery of the economy, recovery of normal business activity. And for those of us who have been visiting Afghanistan for the past five years, the differences between early 2002 and today are quite staggering -- whether it's the number of shops that are trading, whether it's the condition of buildings that have been rehabilitated, whether it's the capacity of government to implement programs, [or] whether it's the amount of traffic on the road, which to some extent is a negative aspect as well. All of these things indicate that this is an economy that's moving.
303 ContraJihadi  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:07:49am

What these "youths" don't seem to realize is that their rioting had much to do with Sarkozy's being elected in the first place.

304 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:08:04am
305 Mike C.  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:08:22am

# 299 BenZ

All very interesting and completely irrelevant. The offshore drilling in Cuba, from surface to TD, is taking place completely within Cuban waters.

306 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:09:12am

yank...

They sent him a questionaire to fill out, it is posted at the link.

307 Kenneth  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:12:23am

Ah, but it's not all bad news... The Quebec seperatists are at each other's throats. After loosing badly in the recent provincial election, the Parti Quebecois is turning on their leader, Andre Bosclair. But the gay coke-head isn't going quietly. He's lashing out at everybody, including Bloc leader, Gilles Duceppe. Sweet. More please.

308 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:13:08am

Mike C.

Beijing’s quest for energy has recently led it to the shores of the U.S. With the help of communist Cuba, Chinese companies are performing what is known as “slant drilling” 50 miles off the Florida Keys, tapping into oil reserves located in U.S. sovereign territory.


Do you have another link that gives a different terminus? Story says they've crossed the border.

309 Dirk Diggler  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:14:05am

Yet another article fails to mention the political affiliation of the governor of Kansas...

Also Monday, Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius said the government’s response to the disaster was undermined by ongoing National Guard deployments to the Middle East.

“I don’t think there is any question if you are missing trucks, Humvees and helicopters that the response is going to be slower,” Sebelius said. “The real victims here will be the residents of Greensburg, because the recovery will be at a slower pace.”

Sebelius said she would address the issue with President Bush when he arrives in Greensburg to tour the damage on Wednesday. White House spokesman Tony Snow rejected the criticism, saying the National Guard had equipment positioned around the country to respond to disasters when requested by states.

And of course President Bush, always one to be made the fool, is going to meet with her. The smart move for President Bush would be to meet with the victims in Greenburg and surrounding communities, meet with the local community leaders and pledge assistance, and liason FEMA personnel on the ground.

Snub Governor Sebelius. Her political posturing before the bodies were even cold was despicable.

310 nyc redneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:14:35am

g00d morning everybody, what a relief to have sarkozy win. here's hoping that this hungarian is as audacious as soros but in the opposite direction. soon the msm will have to report the moslem violence because sarkozy is talking abt/it him self. love how he called those bastards scum.

311 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:15:27am

¡FIRST NIGHT OF UNREPORTED SUB-TROPICAL CYCLONE THAT, BESIDES BRINGING COASTAL FLOODING AND EROSION FROM THE CAROLINA OUTER BANKS DOWN TO FLORIDA AND NORTH FACING BAHAMIAN BEACHES, MAY BRING NEEDED RAIN TO GEORGIA & N.E. FLORIDA COASTAL AREAS!

Thunderstorms getting closer to the center as it approaches Georgia!

This is, IMHO, defintely a sub-tropical system, the frontal structure is gone, it is symetrical near the center, and it has thunderstorms near the core. Now, a true tropical cyclone would have thunderstorm top temperatures of about -70ºC, and intense ones push -80ºC. The -55º cloud tops imply the thunderstorms are coming up 2 or 3 km short of what a real tropical cyclone would do.


Canadian says hybrid, although leaning cold core


GFS similar.

Big breakers approaching N.E. Florida!

312 lawhawk  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:17:19am

Greets and saluts from the sunny and warm NYC metro area. I see that six men from the former Yugoslavia were picked up in a terror plot to kill soldiers at Fort Dix. I suspect the nationality will mean a whole lot less than the religious affiliations.

313 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:17:40am

DD

The commander of the Guard was on TV this am saying it was worse than the Governor said.

314 Yank in the EU  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:18:01am

#306 Ben

The key question is: when was he asked?

He has always been against Roe on legal grounds, but in the past couple years he has decided to take a strong pro-life / Reagan Republican stance. This contradicts those positions which they say he marked.

315 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:18:34am

I think Ed... wants to tell us sumthin'.

316 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:18:45am

285 benz

Even though that's nearly a moot point as POTUS. History sez he'll have a L O N G, convoluted explanation/claim of Statesmanship at the ready when he votes the opposite.

317 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:19:56am

Ed's upside down, and writin' Mexican.

318 MandyManners  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:20:18am

312 lawhawk

So, my mother is not insane.

319 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:20:26am

#298 mglazer

Surprised more people aren't talking about this. When Charles gets out of bed, this NJ terror plot should get its own thread.


Authorities have told Newschannel 4 that some of the men were born in Albania and the former Yugoslavia.

Ethnic Albanians & muslims from Yugoslavia? Like the people we fought for in Bosnia & Kosovo? Why do I think that in 10 years, Iraqis will be showing us the same "gratitude?"

320 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:21:11am
BenZ

14 yrs. ago, Thompson said this...

He checked the box for: "Abortions should be legal in all circumstances as long as the procedure is completed within the first trimester of the pregnancy." He did, however, support a number of restrictions on abortion: requiring parental notification, allowing states to impose waiting periods, and eliminating all federal funding of abortion. Lastly, he said Congress should leave legislation on abortion to the states.

I'm not taking this as his current position, yet.

321 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:21:35am
322 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:21:51am

yank...

1994, "I was for abortion before I was agianst it."

Legal grounds? Like saying, "I am agianst the Nuremberg laws strictly on a legal basis of interpretation ."

323 Kenneth  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:22:04am

China, Russia deny weapons breach

Amnesty says a white Antonov 26 was spotted at Nyala in March
China and Russia have denied claims by Amnesty International that they are supplying arms to Sudan for use in Darfur, in breach of a UN arms embargo.

Wow, the Russians and Chinese are selling weapons to the Sudanese gov't? Colour me surprised... I'm reminded of a phrase, what was it?... "No war for oil!" ...nah, the US isn't involved so it's ok.

324 nyc redneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:22:25am

#316 cbinflux, maybe "friendship" wine won't be so unappealing to americans now, since france is turning around. too early to open a bottle tho.

325 tfc3rid  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:22:28am

Good Tuesday everyone...

Well, glad to see that thse wild and crazy youths are out in full force again...

One can only hope that once Sarkozy i put into power he will allow the French police, military to go out and put law and order into place... Make a few of these punks examples for everyone...

In other news I saw the posts about the Muslim Student Association at George Mason... It is astounding to me how these 'Institutes of huigher Learning' will roll over and let these extra-curricular groups take control of the University agenda and budget... I don't care how many Muslim students they have... It's a school...INTEGRATE!

326 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:22:42am
327 MandyManners  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:22:50am

Clarification

Got off the phone with my mom who was going on and on about a thwarted attack against Ft. Dix.

328 abolitionist  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:23:58am

OT: Man Sentenced to Jail for Saying Islam Not Tolerant!

Religion of irony alert: Court in Azerbaijan sentences journalists to four years in jail for suggesting that Christian teachings were tolerant but Islamic teachings were not.

We'll teach you to say we're not tolerant!

Man. Two Journalists. Four years. Three years. But whose counting. It's not as if math skills or truth in reporting are held in high regard in this culture. Or people. Or a decent respect for the opinions of mankind.

329 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:24:17am
330 earthwirm  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:24:26am

I read cnn.com and all I can find on the Ft. Dix news is "former yugoslavia" so I thought... is that code for something. came here, and found out it is Islamic Radicals.

How come the national MSM is unwilling to report this vital bit of information?

I thought maybe some serbs were angry at us for a second for bombing them in the 90s.

331 Dirk Diggler  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:24:45am

BenZacharia,

The commander of the Guard was on TV this am saying it was worse than the Governor said.

Well if that's the case the U.S. must never go to war again. After all, using our military assets to respond to localized natural disasters is far more important than using them to combat Islamists committed to America's destruction.

332 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:25:17am

Ploome...

I'm not sick, but your nuts. Last post to you.

"I survived the holocaust in New Jersey." FEH!

333 Yank in the EU  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:26:53am

#322 BenZacharia

Yes, I think for many years he took a morally relativistic approach, not unlike Reagan himself or Mitt Romney before they became pro-life: "I disagree with Roe, I am against abortion, but it is not the government's place to make laws on this issue."

Now, quite recently, he is clearly taking a pro-life position: killing unborn lives is wrong. But's he still not going to try to get a "ban" but rather give the question back to the states.

The link you quoted contradicts his recent statements: sounds like a bit of hit job.

334 Ma Sands  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:27:28am

#328 abolitionist

Well...when they've got a "god" who can change his mind and not tell them he did so...everything's topsy turvy...I like it so much that the real God is a God of orderliness... :)

335 abolitionist  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:27:42am

#328 (me) pimf: Who's counting.

336 Earthwirm  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:28:21am

This is posted at 9:15EDT. And it is missing vital information.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

AP of course.

Somebody zombietime this please. it needs to be ripped apart. The local media has more information and the AP is omitting certain details ON PURPOSE.

337 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:28:26am

DD

Better check again, we're not at war according to some prominent posters. Search on 'resolution' and 'declaration of war' from this last weekend.

BTW, why are you taking issue with me about a quote from the Guard Commander?

338 mama winger  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:28:39am

Good morning LGF friends! It's a beautiful sunny day here on the Wisconsin-Illinois border! It's so nice outside I'm tempted to plant my annuals, but my head tells me to wait until the 15th. Winter may still be lurking.


WOW! That's really something about the thwarted terrorist plot against the soldiers at Fort Dix! It seems to me that Fort Dix is mainly used for Guard and Reserve training, I think.

Don't mess with my beloved National Guard. You'll be sorry.

339 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:28:40am
340 vxbush  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:29:05am

Quick hello; busy here today, but I'll probably lurk for a bit...

341 mama winger  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:31:03am

#330 earthwirm

How come the national MSM is unwilling to report this vital bit of information?


I first heard the reports on MSNBC this morning. They very clearly said Islamic terrorists.

342 Kenneth  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:31:24am

Our World: Hirsi Ali's challenge to humanity
By CAROLINE GLICK

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is arguably the bravest and most remarkable woman of our times.

To understand why this 37-year-old woman is extraordinary, she must be assessed in the context of the forces pitted against her in her twin struggles to force the Western world to take note of Islam's divinely ordained enslavement of women, and to force the Islamic world to account for it.

A series of incidents this week placed the forces she battles in stark relief. Sunday Muslims shot up the Omariyah elementary school in Gaza. One man was killed and six were wounded in the onslaught. The murderers attacked because the UN-run school in Rafah had organized a sports day for the children, in which little boys would be playing with little girls.

The idea that that boys and girls might play sports together was too much for the righteous believers. It was an insult to Islam, they said. And so they decided to kill the little boys and girls.

Another must read from the great Glick!

343 freetoken  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:31:56am

#299 BenZacharia

International law states that property boundaries and borders extend from the stratosphere, or is it troposphere?, to the center of the earth, otherwise I could mine for gold by digging from my house under your house.

Besides what Mike C. said, one more thing is the reality of the substance (oil and natural gas.) It isn't like there is a steel wall that goes down thousands of feet into the shelf and totally separates the material. Perhaps Mike could chime in here wrt permeability, but I do believe at least natural gas is able to move through some rocks fairly easily.

This situation is analagous to what China/Japan are facing (well, they have two issues - the actual border, then what to do with the overlapping gas field), as well as Cambodia/Thailand and maybe even Qatar/Iran. Even if you might know what the boundry is supposed to be at the surface, the liquids and gases don't know about the dotted line on your map.

The big question is... why havn't US companies been allowed to drill off of Florida? It just isn't hard core environmental activists... there is lots of NIMBYism out there.

344 mama winger  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:32:28am

#339 ploome

why are more ignorant unemployable opium growing muslim mujahadin taught to hate the infidel a good thing?

Because we are better than that, in that if children are dying we step in to help. It's what makes us human.

345 cosmo  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:32:29am

Fess up, al-Reuters! Who are these phantom "youths?" We want to know and trust the oracle of truth to deliver the whole story.

Youths. What a crock of shi'ite.

346 MandyManners  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:32:37am

312 lawhawk

So, three of the six are Muslims. What about the other three?

GAH!

347 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:32:46am

Yank...

It IS a federal issue, 14th amendment. Unless you are going to start a personal categorization of 'human' 'non-human'.

If we can, I'll go with 'muslim' to start.

/disregard if you don't believe in Ha'Shem.

348 lawhawk  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:33:09am

It was definitely another hot night in France, as more than 500 cars were torched last night to go along with hundreds of arrests.

That doesn't count the smashed businesses and anything else in the path of the mob.

349 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:33:27am

Even if one tried "slant drilling" into US oil reservoirs, you won't get very far.

Mike- what is the record at Wyche Farm? Not even 10 km, IIRC.


And the effective drainage radius of a well, even in a high permiability reservoir, isn't much over a few hundred meters.

350 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:33:38am

Bratton Caves to Anarchists and Foot-Dragging MSM

LOS ANGELES - The highest ranking police official at the scene of a violent clash between officers and people at an immigration rally was demoted Monday, and his second-in-command was transferred.

Deputy Chief Cayler "Lee" Carter Jr., commanding officer of the operations central bureau, was demoted to commander and ordered to work from home. Cmdr. Louis Gray was moved to a post where he will have less authority.

/Even though Bratton deftly avoided being home for the event himself, his ROE's clearly stated that the rocks had to be much bigger, and mechanically hurled, bottles had to filled with a minimum of 94 octane, 1.75 L, and burning at a temperature not hot enough to melt steel. Oh, and mechanically hurled.

351 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:33:43am

permeability.

PIMP

352 haakondahl  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:33:59am

Mike C.

I figure that with the horizontal distance from Cuban waters to American (nearly a hundred kilometers-ish), and with the max angle you can operate a slant rig (thirty degrees for some rigs)...

Well, it sounds like those Chinese have done some pretty good materials research.

353 Earthwirm  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:34:34am

#341

I don't have cable and I certainly wouldn't listen to MSNBC. My source was the AP article at CNN.com.

354 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:36:07am

freetoken

Does the bit/bore cross the border? It is the only issue, not the fluidity of target product. If the product crosses the border, fine.

355 NortonPete  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:36:14am

NJ arrest as reported on wnbc

Some of the group's alleged planning was caught on videotape, investigators said. On the videotape there is significant discussion of Martyrdom.

356 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:36:38am
357 mama winger  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:36:52am

#353 Earthwirm

I don't have cable and I certainly wouldn't listen to MSNBC.

I usually listen to FOX in the morning, but today MSNBC was broadcasting the Larry Elder show, and he had as a guest Steve Emerson, who was talking about radical Islam here in the United States. It was very good.

358 Kenneth  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:37:03am

Drudge is reporting the plotters in Ft. Dix are "ethnic Albanians". Albanians are Muslim.

359 American Soldier  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:37:09am

#338 mama winger 5/08/2007 6:28:39 am PDT

WOW! That's really something about the thwarted terrorist plot against the soldiers at Fort Dix! It seems to me that Fort Dix is mainly used for Guard and Reserve training, I think.

Don't mess with my beloved National Guard. You'll be sorry.

It is also used for SRP, according to news reports, which also used the word "jihad".
Bad news: no more pizza delivery on post.
Good news: the mess hall I'll be eating at later this week is pretty good.

360 NortonPete  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:37:17am

More on NJ suspects:
"Who is going to take care of my wife and kids," one suspect asks. Another responds, "Allah will take care of your wife and kids." The alleged terror cell is described by investigators as disciples of Osama Bin Laden. Among the evidence seized was the downloaded will and testament of two Sept. 11 hijackers.

361 cosmo  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:38:57am

#350

Bratton is an idiot and a pawn. Not impressed since he came from New England. Of course, when you preside over the police force of a "sanctuary city" like he does, it's all about the illegal immigrants, at the expense of the taxpaying public employees.

If Villaraigosa had his way, LA would be safe haven for all illegal immigration...wait...er...um...hmmm.

362 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:38:59am
363 Mike C.  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:39:08am

BenZ

Didn't save the industry links from when we pounded through this issue MONTHS ago. Check the proximity of the rigs to the Cuban-US border. Then remember that the current world record for extended reach drilling is about 14 Km, although a 16 Km well was planned, and may have been drilled by now for all I know (not my field [so to speak.])

That kind of extended reach drilling is useful on in development scenarios. It's simply not used for exploration, because you have to already know where the target is to utilize it.

Virtually ALL offshore production wells are other than vertical. A map of an offshore field (like the one on my workstation right now) looks like somebody dropped a plate of spaghetti. The fact that a rig is drilling a deviated well offshore is not exactly news.

364 nyc redneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:39:48am

hey mama winger
i'm holding off on the annuals too. maybe until the END of may. then i';ll go T totally nuts w/. a flurry of everything. do you have trouble w/. flea beetles where you are?

365 Ma Sands  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:39:48am

#236 AMER1CAN

Thank you for alerting us. Wow. What a story. Yay, F.B.I. :)

366 Yank in the EU  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:39:58am

#347 Ben

Your thinking is not at all clear to me.

Certainly there are issues in this case that involve the three branches of federal government, but at bottom what the pro-life side is aiming at right now is to get Roe overturned on legalistic grounds (because it is a legalistic issue in re: the Constitution) and then to put this fundamentally important moral question back in the hands of the states and people.

And I do believe in Adonai.

My point was only that that site seems to be rather disingenously referring to Fred's past positions, which have since changed.

367 mama winger  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:40:14am

#359 American Soldier

Bad news: no more pizza delivery on post.
Good news: the mess hall I'll be eating at later this week is pretty good.

LOL! Yes, I heard that one of the jihadists had been a pizza delivery guy who often went to Fort Dix, so he knew the layout.

You sound like my kid - he likes army food too. Then again, he liked school lunches. GO figure :)

368 Kenneth  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:40:23am

Here's one of the few reports on the study. I misquoted the statistic, infant mortality is down 18%, (not 40%). The main reason, of course, is that unlike under the Taliban, women are now permitted to have medical care.

369 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:40:31am

Let's not beat up on the MSM too badly Charles.
We all know that what the MSM is doing is merely waiting for the violence to subside so they can produce a final tally of the carnage.

So for every day we see little to no news coverage, and coverage that is rather lacking in accuracy, just know that the violence must be too widespread to report accurately. (/sarc)

370 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:41:18am

337 benz

We're not even at 'Police Action'. "Authorization for Use of Force" was turned into "Democracy Bldg."

With all respect to our fighting men, a simple 'test' of U, R & C rules, protocols, etc. will 'prove' we're not at war.

371 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:41:42am

Law hawk-

It may seem like a warm sunny day in NYC area, but far inland suburbs got pretty chilly!

Morning low was 4º at Islip, and 4º at Poughkeepsie, at the airport.


For that matter, Islip isn't even inland.

And today is May 8th!

372 andymacop  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:41:42am

Maybe under the new leadership in France, there might be a shift toward using language that is a little more descriptive in reporting this lunacy.

Youth=violentislamicgoofballswhowanttokillallweste rners

373 lawhawk  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:41:58am

#309 dirk diggler:

Funny thing is that President Bush declared most of Kansas a disaster area for FEMA relief within 24 hours of the storms on Sunday - faster than the state government officials had expected (an interview of one on Monday had said that they hoped it would happen midweek).

FEMA was already on the ground providing assistance within 24 hours.

And this person has the audacity to say that the federal government response is slow? Sorry, I'm not buying it.

As for whether the Kansas NG is short equipment, I can't honestly say what the deal is. The whole thing has been politicized beyond belief so I doubt we know the real deal as if the media would be willing to do a straight news story.

374 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:42:13am
375 mama winger  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:42:56am

#364 nyc redneck

do you have trouble w/. flea beetles where you are?

Nah - every pest here gets eaten by our state bird - the giant mosquito.

I can hardly keep myself from planting - I have all my flowers hardening off on my patio, then I bring them in nightly. I JUST WANT TO STICK THEM IN THE GROUND!

376 friarstale  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:43:35am

sounds like these guys practically turned themselves in

they made a "training video" on tape, and brought it to a store to have it made into a DVD

the store alerted the FBI

if these guys had the software to convert their own tape they might have gotten away with their plot

they would have been killed, of course, but how many of our good soldiers would they have taken with them?

377 Mike C.  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:43:36am

# 349 Ed

A bit over 14 Km, with one rumored to be planned for 16 Km. Useful only in a well-defined development scenario. Worse than useless for exploration. Extremely expensive and something only a very few outfits could pull off. And none of them are Chinese.

378 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:44:28am

On another note I love dropping: "Yay! Car burnings! Fire..fire..fire!" comments when I am playing an online game with a French partner/opponent. Lots of fun teasing the French online:-)

379 funky chicken  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:45:44am

319 bdvm yep

Authorities have told Newschannel 4 that some of the men were born in Albania and the former Yugoslavia.
Ethnic Albanians & muslims from Yugoslavia? Like the people we fought for in Bosnia & Kosovo? Why do I think that in 10 years, Iraqis will be showing us the same "gratitude?"

380 MandyManners  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:45:44am

350 cbinflux

I cringed when I saw a L.A. cop hit a prone body with a nightstick. The cop was just walking along, not in an apparent confrontation with the person who seemed to be just lying on the ground. Fox footage.

381 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:46:03am

30º ain't a limit. One can drill a well that starts completely vertical, and then, communicating with the tool from the surface, the exlusive Baker Hughes Autotrak Rotary Steerable system can build angles up to 90º, and with near bit gamma ray and resistivity sensors, and optional sonic, density and neutron porosity sensors, one can adjust the direction of the bit in real time to maximize reservoir penetration.

382 Mike C.  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:46:05am

# 352 haak

The rig itself is not slanted at all. You can drill completely horizontal or even back up towards the surface.

The Chinese are nowhere near as good at such things as folks like BP et al.

383 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:46:53am
384 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:47:02am
burnt scooters

But what about Jimmy?! I hope he wasn't hurt.

385 Roger  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:47:50am

#344 mama winger, you sound noble. So we should take all/most of America's resources away from her children?

Is 86 million to Hamas high enough to make you noble? Why not 86 billion? 2 billion to Egypt of the islamic federation?

The point is if people get American resources but their idealogy stays committed to American demise/desolation because it is noble not to convert their thinking, weyou sign our children's death warrant.

386 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:47:54am

#373 Iowahawk

The federal response could have been within 24 seconds and the response would be considered slow by the Bush/FEMA haters.

387 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:48:10am
I heard that one of the jihadists had been a pizza delivery guy who often went to Fort Dix, so he knew the layout.

Wait a second! Does that mean that wide-open bases like the one at Millington wouldn't be prudent? What about cabbies serving as watchmen for Con-Ed in NYC?

Homeland Security in NYC
Con Ed gets cabbies to guard hot spots
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

"I just watch and make sure no one goes near it," driver Zafrul Islam told the Daily News. Islam, a driver for Brooklyn-based Executive Transportation, has guarded several hot spots around the city.
388 nuke gingrich  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:48:12am
389 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:48:34am

Mike C.

Logistics aside.

Simple question. IF the bit crosses the border into sovereign territory, is that trespass?

camels' nose in the tent?

390 lawhawk  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:48:47am

#371 ed of many names:

I agree it was chilly in the 'burbs.. but it's warming up rather quick. I live in Bergen County and it was in the mid 40s when I got out this morning. It's already in the mid 50s.

391 docremulac  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:49:19am

Well, the leftwing media has it's spin angle figured out. These riots are just a result of being pushed too far by the right wing government. The Sarkozy government is so evil, the riots started years before he was even elected.

Anyway, from now on, they're "Anti-Sarkozy protesters" and the fact that the riots have been going on long before he was elected will be buried as they re-write history for their evil purposes.

Leftists pride themselves on their abilty to twist logic. To them it's like preforming clever a magic trick.

These people are scum.

392 MandyManners  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:49:29am

366 Yank

It's not the first time BenZ tried to diss a poster based on an alleged disbelief in either God or Satan.

It's wearing thin.

393 _RememberTonyC  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:51:22am

has segolene royal, the losing socialist candidate made a public appeal for the rioters to cease and desist?

you know ... in the name of democracy and civilization?

did she do that?

394 Ben Hur  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:51:23am

But...but...but didn't we kill a bunch of Serbs (including civilians) in order to give part of Serbia to the Albanians?

But...but...weren't people all over the world protesting Clinton and his targetting of the Chinese embassy and commuter trains, by holding up war criminal signs and American flags with swaztikas?

But...but...wasn't it supposed to show them that we're even handed?

But..but...didn't he give them Kosovo in exchange for world peace?

395 MandyManners  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:51:39am

373 lawhawk

His daddy really screwed the pooch by not doing the same to Limon, CO, after it was obliterated by a tornado. I was there. It was flattened. Horrific.

396 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:52:03am

MM

No, it's a qualification on my position. If you don't believe, disregard, no need for further discussion.

397 Kenneth  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:52:36am

I was listening to an interview Austin Bay had recorded with Michael Yon on recent events in Iraq, (available here), when Yon mentioned he is putting together a TV show of his work in Iraq! The show will feature footage of the troops in action, interviews & reportage. This should be a fantastic way to get the real story out. Yon is still in the process of selling his show to one of the big networks. I'm guessing it won't be on CBS.

398 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:52:43am

♪ Good morning {LGF} ♪ Another sunny spring day today :D

Get a load of this (unless Kenneth has already scooped me, as usual :)

Canadian antiwar activists mingle with terror groups at Cairo conference

OTTAWA - Canadian activists were out in force at a recent conference in Cairo that sought to forge closer links between the international antiwar movement and Islamic resistance groups, including several on Canada's terrorism list.

*snip*

One report in Cairo's Al Ahram Weekly said the growing co-operation between "the anti-global left and Muslims" was striking.

The left, the article said, "is finally overcoming its traditional resistance to the cultural conservatism of Islam, and likewise Muslims are reaching out to the left."

And the MBrotherhood has their dirty hands mixed up in this, you can be sure.

Civil war is coming my friends and we'd best be locked and loaded.

399 Mike C.  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:53:29am

# 389 BenZ

IIRC, I was discussing a real-world situation, not a hypothetical one. Yes, drilling an oil well into an area where you don't have the rights is a no-no. But that is simply not occuring in this instance, so it's irrelevant.

400 lawhawk  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:53:41am

Israel is mulling several plans to deal with the Gaza terrorists and their rocket fire into Israel. One plan would expand an Israeli buffer zone inside Gaza, but all that would do is push the terrorists further back and still allow them to fire the rockets at Israelis - both inside the buffer and into Israel.

Israeli airstrikes and ground action are more likely to be carried out, but of course the media warns that risks more civilian casualties. The Palestinians should have thought of that when starting a war against Israel. /frickin' media...

401 Yank in the EU  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:54:15am

#392 Mandy

I really don't know. But on forums it is so easy to have a misunderstanding. The only way is completely explain oneself.

402 American Soldier  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:54:36am

#373 lawhawk 5/08/2007 6:41:58 am PDT

#309 dirk diggler:

Funny thing is that President Bush declared most of Kansas a disaster area for FEMA relief within 24 hours of the storms on Sunday - faster than the state government officials had expected (an interview of one on Monday had said that they hoped it would happen midweek).

FEMA was already on the ground providing assistance within 24 hours.

And this person has the audacity to say that the federal government response is slow? Sorry, I'm not buying it.

As for whether the Kansas NG is short equipment, I can't honestly say what the deal is. The whole thing has been politicized beyond belief so I doubt we know the real deal as if the media would be willing to do a straight news story.

Nobody seems to remember that the President declared a state of emergency for the Gulf Coast 2 days prior to Katrina's landfall. The National Guard was mobilized at that time. As to equipment- there's plenty of military and civilian equipment in and near Kansas. All you have to do is request it or grab it for the duration.
The problem in Kansas, as in Louisiana, is poor local preparedness combined with BDS politics. And the unwillingness to admit that sometimes, shit just happens.

403 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:55:17am

#276 friarstale

I think that NJ jihadis aren't the sharpest daggers in the sheaths. Remember that the first WTC bombers tried to get their money back on the rental van that they blew up!

404 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:56:07am

380 mandy
I did too, at first, but then I watched more films.

The cops were being pelted with rocks and bottles, fires were being lit with crowds gathering around them. A riot was ensuing.

LAPD announced at least 2x that everyone clear that area, and they slowly started moving in the direction the crowd was told to go. The MSM refused to listen, and many in the crowd were clearly dragging their feet, and some were even flanking the officers. That's a no-no to which any cop or soldier will rightly respond.

MacArthur Park did not melt. A few knuckleheads have bruises. Bratton was safely on a junket.

405 Ma Sands  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:56:13am

#285 BenZacharia

Concerning the first check in the section your link leads to, me scrolling up there is amazing timing --I was just talking to my son about how wonderful were the first flutterings felt, in each of the times I carried mine...and that occurred at the point his wife is approaching at this very moment: at the 2 mo. mark...

406 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:57:24am

PIMF my #403, should be in response to Friar's #376

407 Ben Hur  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:57:32am

Illegal Arms Said to Reach Lebanon Frequently -- UN -

Illegal arms traffic into Lebanon across the Syrian border, mainly to Hizbullah fighters, is reported to be taking place on a regular basis, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said on Monday. In a report to the U.N. Security Council, Ban said news of arms shipments, including "detailed and substantial" reports from Israel, and other nations, showed the need for a team he was sending to propose ways of monitoring of the border.
"Such transfers are alleged to be taking place on a regular basis," Ban wrote. "I am deeply worried that the political crisis in Lebanon may be deepened and exacerbated" by arms smuggling. He also said that there was a growing threat from armed "extremist Islamist groups" who have found safe haven in Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon. (Reuters)

Move along, nothing to see. It's not as important as people driving around an accident vicitm for 1 whole minute.

Hamas Leader Khaled Meshal Predicts a New Intifada

"A new intifada is not a mere prediction," Meshal said. "I estimate it will be a reality in the future - if we base our analysis on the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict during the past years, and consider the difficult and escalating conditions on the ground. What does the world expect from the Palestinian people if the current conditions continue, if the economic siege continues, even after we formed the national unity government?" (Newsweek)

Move along move along...WE all know it will be "spontaneous" and not planned...


Hebrew University: Herod's Tomb and Grave Found at Herodium

The Hebrew University announced Monday night that it has uncovered the grave and tomb of King Herod, who ruled Judea for the Roman empire from circa 37 BCE. The tomb was discovered by Hebrew University Professor Ehud Netzer, who is considered one of the leading experts on King Herod. Herodium, a fortified palace built by Herod some 12 kilometers south of Jerusalem, was destroyed by the Romans in 71 CE. Herod is credited with expanding the Second Temple and building Caesarea, Masada, and many other monumental construction projects. (Ha'aretz)

Yeah right, anyone can go anywhere with a book and find what they're looking for. Hermanuetics. Or at least that's what Asmi Bishara's co-Author and partner told me when he was teaching a class about Jerusalem at Tel Aviv university. Yes, I walked out and dropped the class.

408 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:57:32am

#401 Yank in the EU:

But on forums it is so easy to have a misunderstanding. The only way is completely explain oneself.

That's exactly the sort of thing I'd expect a godless heathen lowlife to say.

:P

409 mama winger  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:57:42am

#385 Roger

#344 mama winger, you sound noble.

Didn't mean to. Force of habit.

410 Roger  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:57:43am

#399 Mike C.

The article is wrong?

411 Ben Hur  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:59:05am

A Million Moderate Muslims on the March

"Moderate Unicorns," huffed a reader, responding to my recent plea that Western states bolster moderate Muslims. Dismissing their existence as a myth, he notes that non-Muslims "are still waiting for moderates to stand and deliver, identifying and removing extremist thugs from their mosques and their communities."

It's a valid skepticism and a reasonable demand. Recent events in Pakistan and Turkey, however, prove that moderate Muslims are no myth.

Moderate Unicorns. Rotating title?

412 American Soldier  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:59:11am

#398 Miss Trixie 5/08/2007 6:52:43 am PDT

Civil war is coming my friends and we'd best be locked and loaded.


[Link: herbertsobel.blogspot.com...]

413 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 8, 2007 6:59:11am

#370 cbinflux

Anytime people wearing uniforms in the service of a state fight with any other group of people, it's a war, no matter the legalese.

414 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:00:26am

American Soldier

How do you prepare for a tornado? Evacuate during tornado season? 95% of the town totally destroyed.

Hurricanes, yes, all kinds of things can be done, sandbags, boarding up and etc.

NG has only 16% of its' trucks and heavy equipment. Cost 4 billion and take 5 years to bring back to strength. They only have a total of 5 helicopters left.

/source Kansas NG Commander on 'Today Show' this am.

415 Ben Hur  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:01:46am

And Boker Effen Tov.

416 JammieWearingFool  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:02:15am

The Pantsuit: I'm No Ségolène

That's true. Less attractive, more shrill and further to the left.

417 Ma Sands  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:02:52am

#400 lawhawk

...Israeli airstrikes and ground action are more likely to be carried out, but of course the media warns that risks more civilian casualties...

Um...civilians? ...when push comes to shove, have any of the people there proven themselves to be in that class...? ):

418 Yank in the EU  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:03:36am

#408 OR

The 'godless heathen lowlives' have a point from time to time, you know.

419 Black George Bush  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:03:52am

Morning gang. This Kansas tragedy proves only one thing, Bush hates white people.

420 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:04:06am

#412 American Soldier:

Well, according to that blog, the second American Civil War began a little over a month ago (March 5). Why wasn't I informed? Start the Civil War without me! What if they gave a Civil War, and nobody came? Etc.

421 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:04:24am

I've been on platforms off Carpinteria, where the Monterrey Shale rises up in sheer cliffs, and oozes tar.

Anyway, as some target sands less than 2000 feet deep, and several thousand feet from the platofrm, and these were developed in the 1960s- I have seen rigs designed to slant (30º seems like a good number) and the conductor pup actually is slanted as well, so the well gets a running start being directional.


BTW, Unocal, in 1992, was starting to dry to drill the source rock, the Monterrey Shale, down about 6000 feet from surface, just 4 miles form where it outcrops on the beach. Not sure whether the shale made a good reservoir.

422 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:04:43am

pipe, not pup

423 funky chicken  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:04:54am

331 Dirk and Ben Z

BenZacharia,

The commander of the Guard was on TV this am saying it was worse than the Governor said.

Well if that's the case the U.S. must never go to war again. After all, using our military assets to respond to localized natural disasters is far more important than using them to combat Islamists committed to America's destruction.

No, but we shouldn't commit to a war and then not spend money on military hardware and recruitment that would take us beyond Bill Clinton's military. Perhaps the only true thing Hillary has ever said is that we are fighting and winning with Bill Clinton's military. Sadly, it's getting pretty ugly out there in terms of readiness and supply.

424 Ben Hur  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:05:22am
425 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:05:31am

#398 Miss Trixie
Nice find.

Groups that sent delegates include the Toronto Coalition to Stop the War, the Canadian Arab Federation, the Coalition Against Israeli Apartheid, Artists Against War, the Venezuela We Are With You Coalition, the Toronto-Haiti Action Committee, the Toronto-Egypt Solidarity Campaign and Not In Our Name -- Jews Against Israel's Wars.

The conference attracted representatives of at least four organizations that appear on Canada's list of terrorist organizations -- Hamas, Hezbollah, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and Jamaat al-Islamiya, best known for killing 71 tourists in Luxor, Egypt, in 1997.

Among the attendees were Moussa Abu Marzouk, deputy leader of Hamas, and Ali Fayad, a member of Hezbollah's politburo.

Talk about a target rich environment!

426 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:05:38am

Good Morning.

More flooding in Oklahoma city.

I think my brakes are now screwed on my drive in. Had no choice but to go through a flooded area. After that, brakes wouldn't work. By the time I could see the flooding, there was no way to get off the road.

great...

Hopefully they just got overly wet and need a day of drying off.

Though I think it is supposed to rain most of the day.

It is pretty bad folks.

427 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:05:51am

#419 BGB:

Bush hates white people

Bingo! This was basically a high-tech (weather machine-induced) lynching. I mean, Mau-Mauing.

428 Kenneth  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:05:52am

#381 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

...one can adjust the direction of the bit in real time to maximize reservoir penetration.

Please Ed, this is a family weblog!

429 storagemanager  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:05:59am

Dinner guest's

...North Korea-Iran-Delegation
North Korean Deputy Foreign Minister in Asia and Oceania Affairs Kim Yong-il at the head of a delegation arrived in Tehran on Monday to exchange views with Iranian officials concerning bilateral and international issues.


According to Foreign Ministry Media Department report, the first round of talks was held here Monday afternoon between North Korean official and his Iranian counterpart Mehdi Safari.


Go back to sleep now world...President Bush was wrong...NOT! [Link: www2.irna.com...]

430 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:07:00am

413 beer drinking

So where is their 'state', their uniform(s), their POW camp, their compliance with any agreed upon rules of war?

What do their silhouttes' look like? What supply cities can we bomb?

/I'm glad your declarations aren't binding; have another beer.

431 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:07:05am

#398 Miss Trixie
P.S. Send that in to the Big Lizard Upstairs.

432 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:07:41am

#418 Yank:

The 'godless heathen lowlives' have a point from time to time, you know.

No! Godless heathens should all be censored!

433 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:08:11am

Lance...

'Ride' the brakes lightly.

434 storagemanager  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:09:08am
#427 Occasional Reader 5/08/2007 7:05:51 am PDT

#419 BGB:

Bush hates white people

Bingo! This was basically a high-tech (weather machine-induced) lynching. I mean, Mau-Mauing.

President Bush did it to take everyone's mind away from Iraq...

435 mama winger  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:09:17am

If this has already been posted, please don't chew my face off.


Iran orders all TV drama to feature prayer

The conservative head of Iran's state-run television has said all homegrown drama programmes should feature scenes showing characters praying or they will be denied airtime, the ILNA news agency reported on Monday.

"In the current year, television productions that do not have prayer scenes will not be allowed to air," said Ezatollah Zarghami, who is appointed by the supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

The new directive appears to apply to drama series and television films but it is not clear whether it also includes programmes such as game shows and sitcoms.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

436 firebreather  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:09:21am

#403 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey--

True, the Islamic zealots of 1993 weren't bright in trying to get their deposit back after blowing up the van. But we also need to remember how the INS extended Atta & co's visas many months after 9/11.

Our bureaucracy & political culture is beyond inept. The murderous designs of the terrorists go hand in glove with the general inertia, stupidity, and political correctness of our highest-ranking bureaucrats, security officials & politicians.

437 funky chicken  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:09:48am

414 Ben Z you have a storm shelter stocked with water, food, a grill and an extra propane tank. It's pretty much like hurricanes.

438 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:10:06am

Send Money - Pay for Corruption, Failing & Tyrannical States: Kofi Annan - Atone for Slavery by Sharing Wealth With Africa

Back to your spiderhole, bitch!

439 Ma Sands  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:10:09am

#333 Yank in the EU

Whoops!
Thanks for posting that comment...very appreciative...
Still watching F.T., then... :)

440 Da_Beerfreak  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:10:28am
#416 JammieWearingFool 5/08/2007 7:02:15 am PDT

The Pantsuit: I'm No Ségolène

That's true. Less attractive, more shrill and further to the left.

And those are just a few of the nice things one can say about her!

441 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:10:34am

'godless heathens' best resource for finding the best/cheapest drugs, clean hookers and the local mosque.

442 Peacekeeper  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:11:07am

Good morning! Some news on the Fort Dix six, eh?

443 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:11:12am

Comparison To Clinton Is Dismissed

snip:

But as presidential candidate Ségolène Royal was defeated by a conservative man who had been France's chief law enforcement officer, the Clinton campaign was quick to dismiss comparisons between their candidate and her Socialist counterpart across the Atlantic. "Other than the fact that they are both women, they don't have much in common," said Howard Wolfson, Clinton's communications director.

HA!

Oh wait, this is the Washington Post, so they'll prove that the Socialist lady we have here is NOTHING like the Socialist lady they have there...

snip:

Unlike Royal, who emphasized her charm and femininity rather than her strength on foreign policy, Clinton has proven her national security bona fides, her advisers said.

Compared to Clinton, Royal did indeed have charm and feminiity... But I don't think you can compare Clinton to ANYONE to say that she has 'national security bona fides' . . ..

This isn't a news article, it's a White Paper!

444 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:11:37am

#435 mama winger:

it is not clear whether it also includes programmes such as game shows

It's "Wheel of Fortune" meets "The 700 Club"! It can't miss!

445 J.D.  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:12:32am

At Least 5 Arrested in Alleged Fort Dix Murder Plot

MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. — At least five people were arrested on charges they plotted to attack the Fort Dix Army base and "kill as many soldiers as possible," federal authorities said Tuesday.

The suspects were scheduled to appear in U.S. District Court in Camden later Tuesday to face charges of conspiracy to kill U.S. servicemen, said Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey.

Five of them lived in Cherry Hill, about 10 miles east of Philadelphia and 20 miles southwest of Fort Dix, he said.

"They were planning an attack on Fort Dix in which they would kill as many soldiers as possible," Drewniak said.

The suspects were described as "Islamic radicals" by Greg Reinert, a spokesman for the United States Attorney's Office. A law enforcement source told FOX News that all of the suspects are recent converts and were not born Muslims. ...


via the corner

446 American Soldier  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:13:31am

#414 BenZacharia 5/08/2007 7:00:26 am PDT

American Soldier

How do you prepare for a tornado? Evacuate during tornado season? 95% of the town totally destroyed.

Hurricanes, yes, all kinds of things can be done, sandbags, boarding up and etc.

NG has only 16% of its' trucks and heavy equipment. Cost 4 billion and take 5 years to bring back to strength. They only have a total of 5 helicopters left.

/source Kansas NG Commander on 'Today Show' this am.

Sometimes shit just happens. It's how you plan your responses that matters. That includes plans to requisition resources as needed- construction equipment and personnel, transport, etc. It also means having the political balls to pull a community or State together to help their neighbors, much like Texas and Mississippi did, very unlike Louisiana.
Just because TAG Kansas only has 5 helos in his toybox doesn't mean there are not others available in Kansas. Or Illinois, Missouri, Iowa, or anyplace else within a reasonable flight time. The idea is to stop the hand-wringing and BDS, get off one's ass, and get the job done.
That includes coming to terms with the idea that Greenburg no longer exists.

447 Dirk Diggler  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:13:32am

lawhawk,

And this person has the audacity to say that the federal government response is slow? Sorry, I'm not buying it.

Me neither.

As for whether the Kansas NG is short equipment, I can't honestly say what the deal is. The whole thing has been politicized beyond belief so I doubt we know the real deal as if the media would be willing to do a straight news story.

I find the lack of equipment claim dubious, politically motivated, and irrelevant. If the Kansas National Guard is short of equipment it's because the equipment is abroad being used to fight a war. The National Guard's role in responding to localized natural disasters must always come in second to combating Islamists in Iraq, Afghanistan, or wherever plotting all sorts of unnatural disasters.

Ultimately it's a question of priorities.

448 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:13:36am

Oh, so it's clean hookers you want... aren't we fancy.

449 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:14:01am

433 BenZ

that's what I tried to do my whole drive in, trying to lightly use then to dry them...

just a bad drive in. If I knew what was going to happen, I'd have called in. heh.

450 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:14:17am

funky...

Tornado rooms aren't cheap, 2K minimum (dual use as extra bath[10k] or closet), although I remember a story from a coupla years back of a man who dug one under his trailer, Apartment dwellers?

451 Kenneth  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:14:33am

#398 Miss Trixie

Good find! Speaking of Canadian moonbats converging with Palestinian terrorists, what do you think of this guy?

Following a storm of protest and a favourable court ruling, York University in Toronto's north end reinstated a student who had been suspended and banned from campus for three years allegedly for using a megaphone at a political rally. Daniel Freeman-Maloy is a 22-year-old political science student of Jewish heritage who speaks out for Palestinian rights in the face of a well-organized Zionist presence.

452 Ben Hur  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:14:43am

WTF?

Why Israel is after me By Azmi Bishara, AZMI BISHARA was a member of the Knesset until his resignation in April [that explains the whole story]

I'm sure 99% of their readers know who Bishara is.

Tomorrow expect a letter from a Swedish MP.


Amman, Jordan — I AM A PALESTINIAN from Nazareth, a citizen of Israel and was, until last month, a member of the Israeli parliament.

But now, in an ironic twist reminiscent of France's Dreyfus affair — in which a French Jew was accused of disloyalty to the state — the government of Israel is accusing me of aiding the enemy during Israel's failed war against Lebanon in July.

Israeli police apparently suspect me of passing information to a foreign agent and of receiving money in return. Under Israeli law, anyone — a journalist or a personal friend — can be defined as a "foreign agent" by the Israeli security apparatus. Such charges can lead to life imprisonment or even the death penalty.

snip

This may discomfort Jewish Israelis, but they cannot deny us our history and identity any more than we can negate the ties that bind them to world Jewry. After all, it is not we, but Israeli Jews who immigrated to this land. Immigrants might be asked to give up their former identity in exchange for equal citizenship, but we are not immigrants.

50% of "palestinians" are the decendants of "migrant workers" that came (and still come) to work for British and Joooish industry. You know, cause they knew not to use human shit as fertlelizer. During Ottaman rule, middle class Egyptians bolted and set up "settlements" in southern section of the Province.

You can go on forever with this shit.

How 'bout you just look at the multi-colored population and police force. A lot of Sudanese are really palestinians in disguise.

453 Ben Hur  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:15:18am
Americans know from their own history of institutional discrimination the tactics that have been used against civil rights leaders. These include telephone bugging, police surveillance, political delegitimization and criminalization of dissent through false accusations. Israel is continuing to use these tactics at a time when the world no longer tolerates such practices as compatible with democracy.

Why then does the U.S. government continue to fully support a country whose very identity and institutions are based on ethnic and religious discrimination that victimize its own citizens?

454 annelid[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:15:37am
455 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:15:56am

#447 Dirk:

If the Kansas National Guard is short of equipment it's because the equipment is abroad being used to fight a war.

For a godless, dirty-hooker-seeking heathen, you do make some smart posts once in a while. 'Zactly. This whole idea that States should RELY on the National Guard as a disaster-response force when they are deployed abroad in wartime is bizarre.

456 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:16:05am

426 lance

Rats scurrying from the stormdrains is always a precursor to heavy rains.

Didn't CAIR just open an office there?

457 Peacekeeper  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:16:21am

If only they had had their M-1 tanks in kansas, we'd have taught that tornado a lesson...

458 funky chicken  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:17:04am

394 Ben Hur Yes, and the Kuwaitis are really thrilled with us 16 years after we saved their asses too.

Oh, and those Somalis just love us for keeping them from starving to death.

Huh. I'm starting to see a pattern here.

Oh well! I'm sure bringing a bunch more of these folks in via immigration will change the pattern. Uh huh.

459 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:17:17am

#445 J.D.
The article doesn't say nut I'm guessing the are American citizens too.

460 American Soldier  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:18:06am

#420 Occasional Reader 5/08/2007 7:04:06 am PDT

#412 American Soldier:

Well, according to that blog, the second American Civil War began a little over a month ago (March 5). Why wasn't I informed? Start the Civil War without me! What if they gave a Civil War, and nobody came? Etc.

It's a "low-intensity" conflict at the moment. When it goes hot, you'll know.

Got ammo?

461 firebreather  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:18:16am

How to co-opt American Muslims? Why, give them absolutely everything they demand, up to & including a Sha'riah state. We all know it's intolerant & Islamophobic to do otherwise.

/MSM, Ivy-League profs, Daily Kos, et al.

462 Yank in the EU  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:18:55am

#439 Ma Sands

I like Fred's positions and I think he would clobber Her Shrillness or Obama in front of the American people. But it seems his health is making him hesitate. What a pity... Right now, the space is wide-open for someone who takes on Reagan's principles / conservative ideology, can speak well, and has a serious chance at getting the nomination.

463 BenZacharia  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:19:15am

annelid

Packing CAN be fun, given ample time, find all the stuff you 'lost', just in time to lose it again.

/recent experience, "It's in a box, either brown or green"/wifffeee

464 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:19:36am

Well, you can add the big, skanky Amazon singer Pink to the list of BDS-afflicted "entertainers".

I saw her on Jimmy Kimmel's show last night, going on about how Jimmy is the only guy that will allow her to sing her claptrap song, "Dear Mr. President". Apparently it isn't getting any airtime. Gee, no wonder, with lyrics like this:

How do you sleep while the rest of us cry?
How do you dream when a mother has no chance to say goodbye?
How do you walk with your head held high?
Can you even look me in the eye
And tell me why?

Dear Mr. President,
Were you a lonely boy?
Are you a lonely boy?
Are you a lonely boy?
How can you say
No child is left behind?
We're not dumb and we're not blind.
They're all sitting in your cells
While you pave the road to hell.

What kind of father would take his own daughter's rights away?
And what kind of father might hate his own daughter if she were gay?
I can only imagine what the first lady has to say

You've come a long way from whiskey and cocaine.

So we've gone from ABC's Monday Night Football, with great American Hank Williams, Jr., to NBC's Sunday Night Football, with barking moonbat Pink. What a country.

465 Black George Bush  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:19:57am

#434 storagemanager
And the tornado ONLY destroyed the homes and buisness of Democrat voters. Pure evil i tell you.

466 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:20:09am

446 American Soldier

Exactly.an f-5 blows through and the death toll is 10?

that's a good thing, i think.

Especially since it HIT the town.

A few years ago (before I lived here) we had a BAD tornado hit the city of Moore (part of the OKC Metro) and just destroyed a huge path through the city. They happen, and you have to be prepared. Most importantly, the area needs to invest in GOOD weather equipment.

here in OKC, I saw a report with the weatherguys talking about their equipment. They can nail down exact details of a 30'x30' square.

In other words, they can see which part of your house a tornado went through.

As such, we get EARLY and good warnings for tornados here... and we get quite a few.

467 Mike C.  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:20:31am

# 410 Roger

So far as oil industry people know, yes - it is wrong.

We went through all of this months back.

468 Peacekeeper  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:21:28am

Meanwhile, TSA continues to search for it's ass with both hands:

WASHINGTON - The Transportation Security Administration has lost a computer hard drive containing Social Security numbers, bank data and payroll information for about 100,000 employee records

469 Annelid[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:21:32am
470 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 7:59:20am

We're baaack.

#468 PK:

TSA continues to search for it's ass

"It's" is the contraction of "it is", not the possessive of "it".

HOW LONG, OH LORD?

471 Mike in Georgia  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:00:48am

There was a disturbance in the force.

472 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:01:55am

Testing, testing.

473 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:03:03am

Gotta stop feeding the hamsters Cranky Flakes!

/We need Mirrors!

474 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:03:12am

I drove through water higher than I thought in the old Buick Skylark, could feel the water on the floorboards, anyway, after that, the brakes weren't quite round, and I could feel the un-roundness of the brakes when I stopped.

475 American Soldier  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:03:37am

#471 Mike in Georgia 5/08/2007 8:00:48 am PDT

There was a disturbance in the force.

Must be something Rove did.

/back to mission prep. Later, all.

476 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:04:42am

#468 PK

As I was saying before somebody stepped on the cord;

Fifty bucks says the drive on that machine isn't encrypted.

Shtoo.Pid

477 Ben Hur  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:05:06am

I thought being a former crack-head was a badge of honor.

478 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:06:21am

#474 Ed...

Old, how old? A real Skylark, from the '60s? Or one of those fake ones from the '90s?

479 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:06:21am

Here's a chuckle as we power up

She has called the sentence unfair, and her fans have posted a petition on the Internet urging Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to pardon her.

"I feel that I was treated unfairly and that the sentence is both cruel and unwarranted and I don't deserve this," Hilton told photographers assembled outside her home Saturday.

The petition, which had more than 900 signatures by Tuesday morning, urges the California actor-turned-governor to pardon Hilton because she provides "beauty and excitement to (most of) our otherwise mundane lives."

"If the late former President Gerald Ford could find it in his heart to pardon the late former President Richard Nixon after his mistake(s), we undeniably support Paris Hilton being pardoned for her honest mistake as well, and we hope and expect the governor will understand and grant this unusual but important request in good faith to Ms. Paris Whitney Hilton," the petition says.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

480 mama winger  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:06:33am

If this LGf problem continues, I may be forced to go and clean my kitchen. And I don't wanna do that.

481 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:06:45am

#464 Ward

Try Five For Fighting for a more grown-up musician's view


“The war trumps everything,” says Ondrasik. “We face a worldwide threat from Islamic terrorism. The obligation of the singer-songwriter is to say what he believes, and if we can’t have a conversation about the radical Islamic threat then we’re in trouble.”
482 vxbush  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:06:48am

471 Mike

Something terrible has happened...a million lizards suddenly cried out in pain and were silenced.

483 Ben Hur  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:07:24am

For Some Muslim Wives, Abuse Knows No Borders

"My husband beat. He show knife. I am scared for him, for all family," said Shamim, 21, the Pakistani bride, who was rescued by police. She is being sheltered and tutored in English at a private home. "They say no money, no call mother at home. I cook for all, I not eat. I not know 911 what is. I think I go crazy."

snip

A major obstacle to recognizing and fighting abuse, experts said, can be Islam itself. The religion prizes female modesty and fidelity while allowing men to divorce at will and have several wives at once. Many Muslims also believe that men have the right to beat their wives. An often-quoted verse in the Koran says a husband may chastise a disobedient wife, but the phrasing in Arabic is open to several interpretations.

Isn't it always.

484 Dirk Diggler  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:07:36am
Well, you can add the big, skanky Amazon singer Pink to the list of BDS-afflicted "entertainers".

Yuck. Pink is a hideous bull dyke.

485 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:08:23am
486 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:08:25am

#479 cbinflux

Maybe they should just lock up the 900 signatories along with Paris.

487 christheprofessor  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:09:27am

Good morning, all...

Just heard a great line from a caller on Boortz, while I was out getting eggs for the baked ziti I'm about to make. Quote of the day, from Michael Crichton:

The only thing worse than a limosine liberal is a Gulf Stream environmentalist.

Boortz also mentioned that the libtard Dem governor of Kansas is blaming -- wait forr it -- George Bush for not having equipment to deal with the crisis (it's, um, in Iraq)...

488 lawhawk  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:09:41am

I found this at Confederate Yankee and wonder what the Gov. of Kansas has to say about the fact that she's ordered all of 110 National Guardsmen to deal with the disaster area. Is that all? Are you kidding me? You're busy complaining about the lack of equipment and personnel and you've authorized only 110 members of the NG?

From CNN:

The governor said Kansas lacks about half the large equipment it could use for recovery efforts and debris removal, including dump trucks and front loaders. More than 20 percent of its Humvees and 15 of 19 helicopters were sent to Iraq, according to officials with the Kansas National Guard.

That means 80% of its humvees were available for use in the state, along with 4 of the 19 helicopters. 50% of the heavy equipment was still available, but if you've only authorized 110 NG, who exactly would be using all that equipment?

489 hous bin pharteen  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:09:43am

What is all this talk of a "civil war".
Seems to me it is Islamic imperialism going on here. Not a civil war.

Yes my lefty/Stalinist friends.
That favorite word of yours that you hate so much.
Imperialism.
The forceful spread of an Islamic Empire.
And the left is all on board for it.

490 Peacekeeper  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:10:11am

OR
The Jerk Store called, they're running out of shrimp.

491 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:11:01am

477 Ben Hur

Only if you're a rapper or in Hollywood.

If you're a conservative (even a quasi conservative) it makes you even more evil.

492 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:12:41am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Goodness the sharks were nibbling at the cable connecting me in Sydney with LGF headquarters over there again

Flat cat splat

CHONGQING: A Chinese woman is suing the residents in a block of flats after she was knocked unconscious by a falling cat.
Tang Meirong, 53, of Chongqing city, was rushed to hospital when she was injured by a cat falling from the building.

The cat was killed on impact.

She said: "I was walking on the footpath under the building, and suddenly a heavy object hit my head. I remember nothing afterwards."

Ms Tang has threatened to sue all 200 residents whose flats face the street unless somebody owns up.

493 Ben Hur  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:12:44am

LanceKates

RIght.

The best thing that ever happened to Downey

494 NoSubmission  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:12:59am

Ben Hur

"Now I am freedom," Shamim said, grinning broadly as she took a tea break recently from her English studies. "I stay America. Not go home. In home, everyone blame woman, it is my culture. Everyone blame me."


No problem understanding that one!
:*)

495 Peacekeeper  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:13:20am

Ward:
A friend of mine in the law enforcement community told me that the main reason hard drives go missing is that somebody was downloading porn on the company computer and they suddenly realized that the only way to destroy the evidence without a trace is for the hardrive to be physically destroyed.

496 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:13:57am

486 ward

There's a little excitement in their drab lives.

/GET a life!

497 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:15:22am

#485 tfk

Wow, I saw that on the news Saturday evening, but hadn't heard much about it. Imagine being one of the neighbors, and seeing the guy being walked at gunpoint down the sidewalk. Holy crap. I'd be on the phone with 911.

498 cbinflux  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:16:08am

492 aussie

Try to stay on topic -- please!

/What was the topic again..?

499 Peacekeeper  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:17:06am

Take your hands off me you damn dirty ape Department:

"Our main argument is that Hiasl is a person and has basic legal rights," said Eberhart Theuer, a lawyer leading the challenge on behalf of the Association Against Animal Factories, a Vienna animal rights group.
...The campaign began after the animal sanctuary where Hiasl (pronounced HEE-zul) and another chimp, Rosi, have lived for 25 years went bankrupt.

Activists want to ensure the apes don't wind up homeless if the shelter closes.

500 ZionistYoungster  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:17:26am

Good evening, dead thread.

Zionist Tentacles Productions, Inc., pushes its Thoughtwaves of Doom:

Historical Idealism: A View For Our Times

501 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:18:08am

493 Ben Hur

hey, they don't treat him like they do Bush.

difference is that Downy isn't a FORMER crackhead...

you have to quit before you can apply the term former.

502 NoSubmission  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:18:14am
6 charged with plot on Army post in N.J.
AP - 13 minutes ago FORT DIX, N.J. - Six men described by federal prosecutors as "Islamic militants" were arrested on charges they plotted to attack the Fort Dix Army post and "kill as many soldiers as possible," federal authorities said Tuesday.


I'd have called them 'Islamic terrorists', but its a start!

503 J.D.  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:18:30am

#459 Killgore Trout

#445 J.D.
The article doesn't say nut I'm guessing the are American citizens too.


CNN says

Six "Islamic radicals" involved in a plot to kill U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix in New Jersey were arrested Monday night, the U.S. attorney's office in New Jersey said today. One of the suspects was born in Jordan, another in Turkey, the U.S. attorney's office said. The rest are believed to be from the former Yugoslavia, "either U.S. citizens or living illegally in the United States," the office said in a statement.
504 J.D.  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:19:25am

I see Charles has it ^^^up^^^.

505 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:20:05am

#490 PK:

The Jerk Store called, they're running out of shrimp.

Since those are two independent clauses, they should be connected using a semicolon, not a comma.

You make this too damn easy.

HOW LONG, OH LORD?

506 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:20:45am

499 PK

the crux is that Austrian Law says that animals can't accept donations...

Apparently it is easier to call a chimp a human than to set up a charity program to fund them or change the law ABOUT funding animals.

how sad is that for Austria?

a couple days ago I linked to that on the dead thread and we had good fun coming up with monkey tv shows and movie off-shoots.

507 abolitionist  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:21:20am

#486 Ward Cleaver

#479 cbinflux

Maybe they should just lock up the 900 signatories along with Paris.

Try reading Ammendment #1 of the US Constitution, please.

508 christheprofessor  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:22:24am

#492 aussie

Good morning (I guess evening, for you!)...

Do cats always land unharmed on their feet, no matter how far they fall?

509 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:23:43am

Homeless apes? Now that would really suck. How do you say "no, sorry buddy, get a job" to a 500-lb. panhandler capable of pulling your arms out of their sockets?

510 Roger  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:24:37am

#467 Mike C. , thanks for the inside scoop!

/Was pulled away from my computers for a bit.

511 Peacekeeper  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:25:20am
Since those are two independent clauses, they should be connected using a semicolon, not a comma.

Oh Yeah? Well I SLEPT WITH YOUR WIFE!

512 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:27:34am

#488 lawhawk

And the white House is too wussified to call her on her BS.

/bitchslap her!

513 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:28:25am

511 PK

Was that who she was laughing about? She kept referring to the 'one inch non-wonder' and I thought she was talking about some new band.

heh.

514 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:28:49am

#464 Ward Cleaver

Hi

Pink was in strife here last year doing a PETA campaign against sheep mulesing which she obviously knew zilch about but she was all for boycotting our wool industry!

Yes, a second rate singer telling our sheep farmers what to do!

Pink and PETA

515 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:29:27am

#507 abolitionist

I was only JOKING!

OTOH, being locked up with Paris would inject some excitement into their mundane existence.

516 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:31:41am

#495 PK

That's right. The forensics stuff for PCs is damn good these days.

517 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:32:40am

514 aussie

heh... nice. Pink, like many other pretty singers, seems to be lacking in a certain department...

i think it is the one involving intelligence. They don't seem to have an intelligence category in becomming a singer.

518 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:32:51am

#511 PK:

Oh Yeah?

The two words should be seperated by a comma, and "Yeah" should not be capitalized.

HOW LONG, OH LORD?

(Ah, and I'm single, so your attempted taunt is like... I'm rubber, you're glue, you know that one?)

519 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:34:10am

I like ORs English tutorials almost as much as much as the swimwear posts, I learn so much here at LGF (should that have been a semicolon?).

520 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:34:28am

"sheep mulesing"?

Dare I ask?

521 Miss Trixie  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:35:23am

kenneth

Good find! Speaking of Canadian moonbats converging with Palestinian terrorists, what do you think of this guy?

Must I? It's almost lunch and I still have an appetite.

522 Roger  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:39:09am

#409 mama winger

Habitually sounding but not being?

523 Peacekeeper  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:40:08am

JERK STORE! JERK STORE!

524 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:40:19am

Paris Hilton in prison, plus sheep mulesing... shoot, a feller could have himself a helluva weekend in Vegas with this stuff.

525 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:40:31am

518 OR

(Ah, and I'm single, so your attempted taunt is like... I'm rubber, you're glue, you know that one?)

You missed quotes around "I'm rubber, you're glue," since you weren't saying it, but comparing his post to such a saying.

526 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:42:38am

watch, therefore, by what scale you judge, for by that same scale will you be judged.

that sounds vageuly familiar... *rubs beard in thought like a yuppie college professor*

527 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:43:45am

Lance, don't be pederastic. I mean, pedantic.

528 Dirk Diggler  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:46:01am

PK,

Just out of curiosity, are your parents siblings?

529 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:46:24am

OR,

The two words should be seperated by a comma, and "Yeah" should not be capitalized.

Since were talking English here.

Another Beautiful day up here, how's it going in saturated with fossil fuel burning vehicle land?

530 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:49:08am

'Might:

Since were talking English here.

I, um, did that on purpose, to see if someone would catch it. Yeah, that's the ticket.

531 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:49:36am

527 OR

Nah, I don't have an interest in the underage.

While some would COMPARE gun owners to sexual predators, I am just a gun owner.

got one-upped in a grammar war with a college drop out...

*grin8

532 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:50:13am

OOPs,

PIMF We're not were! I guess I shouldn't be casting any stones, and coitenly not the foist.

533 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:51:36am

532 Widow

heh.. wait... are you going to suggest that we ALL make grammar and spelling errors?

Surelym you Jest!

(we need frax back)

534 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:51:50am

#498 cbinflux

LOL!

Me? On topic? Never! I'm an off topic Aussie rebel and I'm proud of it!

535 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:57:06am

Hello Lance and Queenie of OZ,

Another Loverly day, saw the moon clearly this morning, the sky is a bright blue. Kinda cool when looking at 100 ft + trees and that sky.

Aussie, I'll cut some fresh asparagus for you later, and let you know how good it is again.

536 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:57:33am
got one-upped in a grammar war with a college drop out...

Not so fast, Mr. "vageuly"...

Look, let's just settle this whole thing with a good, old-fashioned sheep mulesing. I'll meet y'all in Tijuana.

537 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:59:12am

#508 Christheprofessor

Hi there and thanks for that link LOL!

From the link

I got another note telling about some moron who dropped (a) a cat and (b) a chicken out of a Cessna at 800 feet to see what would happen. The cat survived. The chicken didn't.

Goodness - some people need to get a life I reckon!

538 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:03:59am

536 OR

ok, but you go first and I'll hold the camera.

I promise I won't run away right after and then blackmail you for enough money to pay for college.

No, really, I do.

539 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:06:17am

1993 Buick Skylark.

540 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:06:37am

#517 Lancekates

G'day - yes and the one thing we here Down Under do NOT like is for these OS types to preach to us

Yes we have our very own beloved moonbat singers and actors who preach and who we tolerate (barely) but good heavens Pink! She's foreign! :-)

541 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:08:03am

535 widow

yeah... not so pretty here.

looks like the rain is breaking, for now.

still in a Flash flood warning... and they're not kidding. A couple people didn't make it in, as they live in a high area surrounded by valleys. heh.

Oklahoma is not the flat wasteland that most people think of... lots of hills and valleys... alot of flooding going on.

It is time, however, for another lunch provided by the people at Subway.

542 Peacekeeper  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:08:35am
543 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:10:11am

540 aussie

Heh, I don't blame you... dislike all you want.

544 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:11:42am

Is this where all the cool kids are?

545 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:15:07am
I got another note telling about some moron who dropped (a) a cat and (b) a chicken out of a Cessna at 800 feet to see what would happen. The cat survived. The chicken didn't.


Nor will a chicken survive the fall from the back of a moving eighteen wheeler. I see a lot of them along the sides of the highway who try to make their escape on the way to the poultry plant.
/I'm makin' a break for it...BAWKK! ! !

546 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:17:15am

#520 OR

LOL! Don't ask! But it's cutting of the folds of skin around a sheep's bottom to prevent flystrike

Need I say more?

547 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:21:00am

Damn!

548 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:21:08am

Ewww, I looked up flystrike.

Being eaten alive by maggots.

I think I'd opt for the trim, considering the alternative.

549 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:28:20am

#535 Widow'smight

G'day! Fresh asparagus! Please send now :-)

We're having nice weather too - and it's almost winter but we're still in summer clothes here

It was a lovely sight here the other night - we were driving and framed ahead between the buildings was the big almost full moon right down on the horizon - just gorgeous!

BTW - where's NMM?

550 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:32:59am

I'm going to join Lance at Subway.
BBL

551 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:36:41am

Queenie,

We're having nice weather too - and it's almost winter but we're still in summer clothes here

Somehow, your idea of winter and mine just might be a little different. Methinks you and Scarlett prolly have the same type of winter.

We get SNOW and -15c temps.

Course Australia has you.

Scarlett,

Me and Mini-mom watched "The Horse Soldiers" the other night. Had to 'splain to her the guys in the Gray uniforms weren't the "Bad guys". She likes John Wayne movies too. Wonder where she got that from?

552 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:36:56am

#542 PK

OK - haven't done this for ages

{PK} {PK} {PK} x 1,000
:-)

553 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:40:06am

ok... back from subway.

Now, I'm not saying that redstate DID join me at subway... and I'm not saying she didn't.

But she is pretty.

554 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:40:31am

#544 Redstateredneck

Hi and bye darls :-)

555 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:43:35am

goodness...

another one now looks like a zombie.

To compare... here she looks pretty.

556 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:44:53am

#547 UFO TOFU

Hi darls

Goodness! A chicken eating spider! At least it's not an Aussie spider :-)

(Ours only bite to kill, not eat)

557 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:46:36am

Anyone notice the change in Quizno's commercials?

at first, they offered subs that were toasted, and that was their push. Good subs, toasted.

Then they started the comparison campaign, where they took the Quizno's subs and compared them to the smaller (and less meat-filled) subway subs. (you know, the one with the pretty lady who said that women like meat.)

Their new commercials are just to show their food and then rip on subway.

They've fallen into the mudslinging trap.

They do have good subs though.

558 newmelleman  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:48:19am

My ears are tingling...wonder why?

{Aussie}

NMM

559 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 9:56:54am

Hey Nmm

Saw this and thought you might want to read it:

Little League Lawsuits (about 2/3 of the way down)

here's the part about little league...
snip:

May 3 -- Little League lawsuits. No, they're not just figments of tort reformers' imaginations. In Waynesboro, N.C., Nicolas and Alina Rothenberg are suing the national and local Little League, along with local game officials, over an incident where their son was hit in the mouth with a ball, losing two teeth and experiencing "extreme pain and suffering" and emotional distress. "It was an accident," said Tammy Meissner, the wife of defendant Michael Meissner. "My husband was hitting the ball just like he's been hitting the ball for years and years and years." ("Accident prompts Little League lawsuit", AP/Winston-Salem Journal, April 23, no longer online). Another clip from mid-1998, datelined Naugatuck, Ct., describes how two teammates, both 8 years old at the time of the incident, wound up in court after Michael Albert swung his bat in the dugout and hit Brittany Gauvin in the head. ("Little League lawsuit pits 10-year-olds against each other", AP/Danbury News-Times, June 8, 1998).

560 newmelleman  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:01:12am

Lance

I'll have to take a look at that, thanks. Our registration forms have a disclaimer on them which I'm sure is intended to cover that type of thing. There is always a lawyer out there that can either:

1) get around them (the disclaimer) to sue somebody.

2) convince a potential client that they can get around the disclaimer and collect legal fees regardless of the outcome.

/no offense to LGF lawyers

561 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:01:44am

Back from Subway. Noticed how I waited a little while after Lance came back to reappear. Less gossip that way.
;-)

562 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:01:54am

Hello {everyone}

Very nice cool morning with crisp breeze here (in the low 60's at 5:00 a.m.). But, the smoke and smell of fire was sooo bad, I couldn't breathe. By sunup (sun was bright red), getting ashes falling around.

Find out later it's from fires more than 100 miles north of Tampa (Gainesville area) and more fires north of that (from Georgia).

Hack, cough, cough.

/like a vise squeezing my lungs, I tells ya. LOL

And, so, how is everybody?

563 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:02:45am

#551 Widow'smight

LOL! Yes apparently we're like LA weatherwise

But last year it was cold from April till September - like cold enough to wear a coat :-)

I even got my scarf out - and my socks

564 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:03:34am

Hey, {gettinby}
Don't breathe that nasty air!

565 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:04:32am

speaking of lawsuits...

EEOC suing Salvation Army

Why? Gross misconduct? sexual discrimination? employees eating employees?

No!

The Salvation Army has a policy that says that Employees need to speak English.

566 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:05:20am

Oh, and I drove by a Subway and saw two very familiar people in there together. I notice that Lance and redstate were gone at the same time?

/gossip queen.

567 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:07:11am

560 nmm

There is always a lawyer out there that can either:

1) get around them (the disclaimer) to sue somebody.

2) convince a potential client that they can get around the disclaimer and collect legal fees regardless of the outcome.

For a 'nominal' fee, of course.

561 redstate

good call. umm... I'm not saying that you DID leave something in the backseat of my car... and i'm not saying that you DIDN'T leave something in the backseat of my car... I'm just saying that I don't wear ladies underclothing and... umm... yeah...

568 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:08:25am

#558 {NMM}

There you are! Hi darls!

569 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:09:50am
I'm not saying that you DID leave something in the backseat of my car... and i'm not saying that you DIDN'T leave something in the backseat of my car... I'm just saying that I don't wear ladies underclothing and.


I thought it was breezy in here...

570 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:10:31am

Lance

Ohfergoodnesssakes. How despicable!

EVERY time I get a voicemail for a company that I must poke a number for english, I give the rep a whatfor and insist my comments and my name is passed on to management. I HATE that.

The plaintiffs couldn't possibly win this lawsuit, could they?

571 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:11:50am

#570 me

PIMF, again. *sigh*

is should be be

572 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:12:12am

I like Family Guy:

Peter Griffin: Lois, I can't find my favorite pair of underwear.
Lois: Which one? The one where you ripped hole in it from when you got stuck in that airplane bathroom from when you got the trots?
Peter Griffin: No, I'm looking for the pair from when I had to hold it in because it was that extra long Palm Sunday service and I thought blowing gas would offend Jesus so I let it rip in the vestibule after service and it sounded like Louie Armstrong.
Lois Griffin: Top drawer.

573 newmelleman  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:12:39am

Sooo,

Q: What's the difference between the Taj Mahal and the back seat of Lance's car?

574 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:13:01am

Gettinby,

Oh, and I drove by a Subway and saw two very familiar people in there together. I notice that Lance and redstate were gone at the same time?

Which one had the biggest grin goin?

Queenie,

I even got my scarf out - and my socks

I'll see if I can get the MRS to greet me like that once in awhile, Then I won't have to FOS so much.

575 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:15:07am

#564 {redstate}

Don't breathe that nasty air!

You are correct. And, I didn't get my morning walk with Racer this morning. We tried, but I just couldn't breathe.

576 newmelleman  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:15:35am

A. To the best of my knowledge, {rsrn} has never been in the Taj Mahal.

577 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:16:26am

I love this. An auto accident, unrelated to an immigration protest, kills a protester. His life would have been spared if only the city would have built a safe place day laborers to congregate? Gah.

The death was an accident, but Pedraza would not have died if the city had created a safe place for day workers to be, Calderón said.

Day laborers mourn accident victim, decry lack of safe place in Rancho Cucamonga

578 aussiemagpie  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:18:04am

Well it's bedtime here just when all of you are here :-(

Hi {gettinby}

I'll leave you all with my favourite imam's words of wisdom

Question

Is it permissible for a muslim to play in the NHL (National Hockey League).


Answer
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatoh

It is not permissible for a Muslim to take part in the NHL (National Hockey League). In doing so, one is forced to compromise on many Islamic injunctions and values. Instead one may utilize this time more constructively and fruitfully in doing something that will earn you benefit and reward in the Court of Allah. Allah has sent us into this world to worship and obey Him. Allah states in Surah Mu’min “Do you think that I have crated you for entertainment?”.

The tricks and ploy of Shaytaan is to decorate amusement and entertainment activities and deceive us to deem them worthwhile and constructive. Do not become misguided by these decorative activities. Channel your energies and vigor in acquiring Deeni knowledge or something that would benefit you in this world and the Hereafter.

May Allah guide you and assist you and make you an asset for the Ummah, Ameen.

And Allah knows best

Wassalam

Mufti Mohammad Zakariyyah Desai,

Checked and Approved by:

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Darul Iftaa, Madrassah In'aamiyyah

There you go - do not play hockey it's bad for you - like it's entertainment and we can't have that can we?

Nightynight {everyone} and see you tonight! And it's Wednesday here - almost the weekend!

579 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:20:08am

It's funny how many on LGF kid around about the hamster-powered server here.

I found this article...

Two minutes of hamster wheel-spinning good for 30 minutes of cell-phone power.

580 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:20:53am
A. To the best of my knowledge, {rsrn} has never been in the Taj Mahal.


That's correct; I have never been in the Taj Mahal; however, I have seen this Taj Mahal before,

581 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:23:56am

[Peter has gotten liposuction]
Stewie: My god, it's finally happened. He's become so massive he's collapsed in on himself like a neutron star.

582 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:25:48am

Hi and bye {aussiemagpie}

/I now having a burning desire to play hockey. :)

583 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:26:28am

*cackles*

family guy quote:

Susan Sarandon: I'm Susan Sarandon. You might know me as Tim Robbins' mother...
[derisively]
Susan Sarandon: ... but actually I'm his girlfriend.

584 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:28:07am

Protestors: Free Tibet! Free Tibet!
Peter Griffin: I'll take it!
[He runs to a nearby phone booth]
Peter Griffin: Hello, China? I have something you may want. But it's gonna cost ya. That's right. All the tea.

585 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:31:41am

Any of y'all remember these?
/I don't.

586 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:37:57am

TOFU

/I don't.


Could be from too much of that Bayer Heroin.

587 newmelleman  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:39:48am

Lysol!?!

Yikes.

588 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:40:26am

UFO TOFU

Lysol? To clean the vaginal canal? No wonder people grew up to have senile agitation.

Those are hysterical!

/Bottled heroin...coulda been a real moneymaker!

589 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:41:35am

To those of you who know my "Real" identity...

Channel your energies and vigor in acquiring Deeni knowledge or something that would benefit you in this world and the Hereafter.

I do this all the time, although the "Knowledge" part might be in question.

590 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:45:37am

Scarlett,

Could be from too much of that Bayer Heroin.

I always thought of you that way, ready to risk your life to save another. Maybe that's why Mr. Red always has a smile on his face, just too much of you.

591 newmelleman  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:45:49am

Even Listerine would be bad...some of the more palatable mint flavored mouth washes, maybe...but c'mon!

592 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:47:26am

Lavoris...
/don't go there, redstate

593 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:49:11am

heh. ick

594 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:53:43am

Since my last post had an advertisement that might not have been the most flattering to the ladies here, let me make amends with this:

It's a toilet nightlight. The light is motion activated and turns on as you approach, lighting your way to the loo. Not only that, it will shine on you in either green, to show the seat is down, or red, to show the seat is up. Which saves a lot of women from a cold, cruel fate, and a lot of mean from hearing about it. The lights shut off when you leave. Whether the seat is up or down.
595 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 10:59:56am

Widow'smight
Isn't growing asparagus a pretty time consuming and labor-intensive endeavor?

And does your nick violate this (Damn, OR may have been correct)?

596 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:00:26am

Is that your final selection for Mother's Day or Mrs. TOFU's birthday?

/sure hope not.

597 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:04:39am

This is a very funny doggie video.

/please ignore the ad to the right.

598 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:05:15am

gettinby
We had another wind storm yesterday, broke our patio umbrella. Mothers Day will probably be a new one.

What?

Bithday is usually pretty extravagant. Got her a nice patio fountain last year. This year I'll probably get her a very nice radial arm saw.

599 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:09:42am

Nothing says, "I love you" like power tools.

600 newmelleman  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:10:53am
This year I'll probably get her a very nice radial arm saw.

Too often us men are to shy or embarassed to show our genuine feelings for those we love...make sure you get her one with laser sights.

601 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:12:03am

UFO Tofu

Haven't asked for a while... how's the 'stop smoking' going?

602 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:13:02am

Some power tools are a very nice gift for women. ;)

/don't look at me like that!

603 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:16:48am

Apostrophes are used differently for a singular possessive and plural possessives? Who knew? So I've been misspelling all y'all's?

604 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:20:24am

UFO TOFU

So I've been misspelling all y'all's?

I don't believe you have been.

605 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:22:36am

Nmm
Most excellent advice!

Lance
Not good, made it for several days. I'd like to try NMMs aardvarkular treatment, but when it comes to crutches I don't need to look very far. I need to just make up my mind. I'm still blown away that redstate could just walk away from them for Lent.

606 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:25:11am

gettinby
Plural second-person pronoun? If there's gonna be a quiz, I'm done.

607 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:26:19am

604 UFO

you can do it. The most destructive thing one can do is to think "Well, I tried to quit, but I couldn't."

Even if you slip now and then and have one or two, it is a process, not an event.

Some people can just up and quit, others can't. Just different people.

608 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:27:17am

TOFU

I'm still blown away that redstate could just walk away from them for Lent.


I had a crutch - nicotine gum.
Then I gave up the nicotine gum for regular gum.
Then I gave up regular gum for sugar free mints.
And so on; but, yes, I did it at Lent. Don't discount the power of prayer!

609 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:30:32am

606 UFO

its ok, they grade on a curve... only a couple people would score highly.

The majority of us would be in the middle.

one of those Bell Curve things.

610 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:34:05am

Tofu,

Asparagus takes a good bit of work to plant, but after that, there isn't alot of work. I'll elaborate further if you're interested.

My nic is correctly (according to me anyway) apostrophized?. It is about the might of one Widow through the giving of her 2 mites (non-creepy/crawly).

How's your little goil doing?

611 EmeraldLakeEyes  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:42:48am

OR


HOW LONG, OH LORD?

Has anyone commented on your new phrase yet. I
find it very funny coming from a nonbeliever. lol

612 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:52:06am

EmeraldLakeEyes
Notice he didn't get an answer!

613 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:57:16am

612 redstate

I answered him showing him his grammar error... heh.

614 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:57:53am
How long, O LORD?
How long will the wicked be allowed to gloat?
Hear their arrogance!
How these evildoers boast!


Hey, it's good stuff. Reminds me of our times, too.

615 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:59:04am
A "career Justice Department prosecutor" identified in a news report as a client of alleged Washington madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey has been dead for nearly three years, the Justice Department said Tuesday.

Alleged D.C. Madam Prosecutor Client Has Been Dead for awhile!

/and the beat goes on and on and on...

616 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 8, 2007 11:59:19am

Okay, Lance, you've pushed me to this: "Family Guy" really isn't very funny.

617 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:01:37pm

Widow'smight
She's plugging along. Getting that car out to her is turning out to be a comedy of errors though. Wouldn't pass smog, so my friend installed a replacement cat. Went to re-smog it and the fuel pump quit. He replaced that and when I showed up to take it to the DMV it wouldn't start.
I'm sooo tired of working on kids cars.

618 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:01:43pm

And I would like to just say that I miss {realwest}'s posting and hope that his puterprobs are repaired fully and satisfactorily real soon!

619 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:10:41pm

616 OR

Okay, Lance, you've pushed me to this: "Family Guy" really isn't very funny.

*holds chest* Gah! It's the big one!... I'm coming Elizabeth!...

*staggars around*

/ Sanford & Son

620 realwest  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:21:06pm

#618 {gettinby} - Hey, thank you! I'm not really here (well, I am, but only until 'puter starts typing on it's own and other weirod thingies; hope to have all fixed by Friday) but I do read LGF once in awhile - it's hard for me to read and not comment, LOL! - and I just hope all the Lizards in OK,KS Missouri, Texas and other folks in currently weather challenged parts of our Country are doing ok - I CAN receive e=mail, but won't send any 'til I's sure it's just keyboard or keyboard port and not a virus or worm.
Thanks again y'all - miss you a lot!

621 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:26:43pm

620 realwest

good to hear that all is (relatively) ok.

622 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:28:47pm

TOFU,

I'm sooo tired of working on kids cars.

I understand that one. My Step-daughter is graduating on Saturday from College, The first one in her family to do it. I'm glad I was able to save enough money to get her through.

She's talking about moving to Florida, hopefully we can convince her to have a teaching job first. Mom would really like her to stay around for awhile, but she thinks it's boring around here.

Feels weird being the Odd man out of her life considering I pay for most of her expenses, and at least try to be an example to her.

Oh well, one down, two to go.

623 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:37:15pm

622 Widow

You leave a mark, I am sure.

624 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:44:49pm

Widow'smight

Feels weird being the Odd man out


Don't kid yourself my friend, you've probably had a much greater impact in her life than either of you realize. Stepkids are a particularly difficult challenge, I'm not sure I did so well. But after butting heads for years with my stepson we now have an excellent relationship (probably doesn't hurt that he's raising triplets, different perspective and all...).

625 newmelleman  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:46:10pm
probably doesn't hurt that he's raising triplets, different perspective and all...

What is it they say about payback again?

j/k of course

626 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:48:32pm

Widow'smight

Perhaps she is just starting to really feel the "air beneath her wings" (so to speak). It won't be long before she starts letting you know how much she appreciates you and loves you for doing what you did.

/speaking from experience with my hubby's two girls.

627 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:51:14pm

Lance and Tofu,

Thanks.

I guess I just want the best for her.

Tofu,

But after butting heads for years with my stepson we now have an excellent relationship (probably doesn't hurt that he's raising triplets, different perspective and all...).

Well since I have 3 daughters to worry about, I'll call them "Chick-lets".

628 newmelleman  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:53:24pm

"da payback is mine homey"

-Bible, 21st Century Urban Translation

629 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:54:39pm

NMM
At his wedding, my stepson asked me to say a few words. After welcoming his new wife (not the triplets mother) into our family, I warned them "So if you come home from a weekend away several years from now, and the floors are sticky, the house is full of flies, and the furniture is not quite where it was when you left, one word: payback."
He's a pretty good sport about it now.

630 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:55:52pm

Hey, found a picture of my desk.

631 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:56:33pm

Gettinby,

Perhaps she is just starting to really feel the "air beneath her wings" (so to speak). It won't be long before she starts letting you know how much she appreciates you and loves you for doing what you did.

She does show me, and she's a good girl. I guess I just wish her Dad wouldn't have allowed her to do some of the stuff she did. He wanted her not to go to school, and start working. Wifey and I had to keep her steering wheel adjusted towards this goal. He hasn't helped too much financially either.

Isn't there some some about "Air or Wind beneath wings", some chicky song?

632 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 12:59:33pm

Well, good people, I'm off for the day.

Here's to {all yawl*}

*in honor of UFO TOFU's 's.

633 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:01:28pm

Bye, {gettinby}
Does that mean I'm the only girl here now?

634 UFO TOFU  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:05:26pm

Later gettinby. And I too must be off. I'll leave you with these thoughts: summer is here in socal, I can hardly wait. The warm summer nights, barbecueing with friends, listening to music, the angelic smile on my granddaughters face as I carry her in the pool, while the water temperature suddenly becomes noticeably warmer.
Later folks!

635 gettinby  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:07:15pm
636 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:07:52pm

ddt keeps shutting down earlier every day... abandoned for the newer threads...

637 newmelleman  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:20:19pm

Lance

When I abandon the DDT it just means its quittin' time. There are a few DDT alumni that don't seem to come around much anymore though.

638 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:21:28pm

I guess it's up to us hard cores to keep the DDT alive.

639 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:23:49pm

637 NMN

there are a few. The anti-social and self-conscious part things I drive them away.

The evil part doesn't care.

The majority of me just gets bored. *grin*

640 Widow'smight  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:25:57pm

DDT,

I must go, have a wonderful day!

641 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:28:47pm

And another one bites the dust.

642 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:32:47pm

just you and me redstate... rumors will fly now. heh.

643 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:49:49pm

Sorry, Lance, I was looking up recipes. I get so sick of the same old thing. Trying to spice things up a little!

644 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:53:47pm

643 redstate

What is it you're looking to make? My dad and I specialize in those quick and easy 1 pan meals that made Rachael Ray famous.
(and did it BEFORE she made it popular!)

Fresh Garlic is always a plus, but I'm italian and am required to like Garlic.

an easy one is to brown a pound or so of Ground Beef until it is half-browned, then add 1 chopped (big pieces, at least an inch square) onion.

cook until all the meat is browned... Onions should be at least half-transparent.

add country gravy (out of a packet, mixed with water) and cook for a while, then pour it over a piece of toast on a plate.

645 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:55:23pm

take peices of chicken, dip them in egg, then roll them in crushed melba toast (not crushed to a powder, but just small and tiny pieces)

spray chicken pretty well with 'butter flavored spray' like you'd use on popcorn or to cook with, line on a cookie sheet and bake like normal chicken.

646 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:57:12pm

take instant rice and put it in a pan. instead of mixing with water, pour in cream of chicken soup.

add a BIT more soup than you would water if you like it a bit runnier like I do.

add chicken breast, thawed and submerged in the rice/soup mixture

cover with foil and cook in the oven for an hour or so.

647 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:58:30pm

As always, season to taste.

in the rice dish, I add some muchrooms and seasoned salt.

to the chicken I normally add a bit of chili powder to the egg mixture

to the hamburger dish, I add pepper... lots of pepper.

648 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 1:59:43pm

muchrooms

muShrooms.

heh.

649 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:01:40pm

make a box or two of Mac-n-cheese per box directions.

pour Mac-n-cheese in a pan and add a can or two of Tuna and a can of Cream of Mushroom soup. (Or Cream of Brocoli if you don't like mushrooms)

add some seasoned salt, garlic and mix together. Pour shredded cheese on top of the mixture and cover, cooking in the oven for about 15 minutes to melt the cheese and get the flavors to meld.

650 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:03:23pm

We do low-carb so I'd have to have to leave out the gravy, the toast, the rice and the crushed melba toast. Doesn't leave much, does it?
:D
I'm going to broil some pork chops and bake a cauliflower/cheese/bacon combo. Maybe some green beans on the side. Low carb doesn't have to be boring, but it is easy to get in a rut. Meat and salad, meat and veg, meat and cheese!

651 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:07:30pm

650 redstate

the melba toast one would be ok, it isn't HIGH carb, but not 'no carb' heh.

the rice and tuna-mac dishes are out too (Too bad too, I LOVE the tuna one and it is SO easy to make)

if your pork chops are thicker, butterfly them and CAREFULLY stuff them with a mixture of powdered garlic and maybe a moz. cheese, or even a brie.

then put toothpicks in the open part to hold it shut then cook.

652 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:10:31pm

being diabetic I now try to watch all the carbs I can, so I understand what you're talking about. heh.

Thankfully, I love steak.

a meal without meat is actually just a side-dish.

hard part is BBQ...even if you don't like sweet BBQ (which I'm not a HUGE fan of) the BBQ sauce base is ketsup or tomato... both of which are high sugar.

most sauces either have carbs or fat... or a TON of salt (i.e. soy sauce) . . . but that's how one normally ads flavor. heh.

653 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:11:32pm

Here's something that can help.

654 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:29:13pm

Dang! I'm getting hungry from reading recipes. Thanks for all your help, Lance.

655 redstateredneck  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:31:20pm

I'm off to do end of day reports. See you tomorrow,{Lance}. Have a good evening!

656 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:35:31pm

take care redstate.

657 LanceKates  Tue, May 8, 2007 2:38:51pm

no problem. when discussion finally gets around to something of which I have a bit of knowledge, I like to help. heh.

One of those jobs that I'd enjoy is running one of those small town diners.

hard to make ends meet that way though.

658 Fondu  Tue, May 8, 2007 8:58:10pm

#462 Yank in the EU

I have not posted in a long time, but your posts made me dust off my login :)

I have been reading up on Fred Thompson. Here are his stances, in his own words, on several issues including abortion (near end of the clip from an interview with Hannity on May 4th):

I stumbled on Fred Thompson's opinion and commentary site of here: [Link: abcradio.com...] The site includes his remarks made at the Lincoln Club Dinner in Orange County. I also found the podcast of "The Shores of Tripoli" to be very interesting.


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