Rudy.

Though I'm not wildly enthusiastic about him -- or any of them.

Enthusiatic or not, however, I WILL vote in Nov '08 -- like my life depended on it.

Only a Lieberman candidacy would lure me away to the Dems.

Not likely.

Bottom 6 have no prayer whatsoever, but that is what the primaries are for. To scare the ones on top into being more conservative (or pretending to be for a few more months).

I'm with you zombie, though I must say that Ron Paul's positions are a mirror image of some of the truther/conspiracy minded leftists out there.

Put Fred Thompson up there and I'll vote.

I do like Mitt Romney, though. He's OK. I personally like John McCain, as a fellow brother-in-arms, but I don't like his politics so much, he's kinda off the meter on some stuff.

Damn, there are 108 votes, and only 4 comments.

Who are all these voters?

Rudy.

I'll go with Rudy for now. But I might also like Newt.

Up to 131 in the space of 30 seconds.

Damn.

LGF has "readership" alright!

I'd like to write in FDT, please.

Can't vote for Guliani, though, he won't stand watch over my guns.

Charles,

I know they're not in the debate tonite, but would you consider a second poll that includes Fred Thompson, Charles Hagel and Mike Bloomberg to the list of candidates, seeing how they're all but considering a run of sorts.

Rudy Rules!

in advance of the second debate this evening.

The what?

Thank god I don't pay attention to mainstream culture.

Run Fred! RUN!

6 imploder

Put Fred Thompson up there and I'll vote.

Fercryinoutloud! He's not running, he's not in the debate, therefore he's not in this poll.

You forgot one choice:
None of the above.
So far I have yet to hear from anyone I know having any confidence in the present GOP candidates.
Not many people like the current field, myself included. The front runners are gun grabbers, and basically closet libs.

I can't quite get a hold of Rudy, Zombie. Some say gun-grabber, but others say that was just for a while as mayor of a crime-infested city. He's pro-abortion, but says he will nominate constructionist judges so that's cool. I do love how he treated Arafat and the Saudi prince, however.

I suppose the chances of a Tancredo victory are close to zero.

I fully expect to vote Constitution Party in '08. I've had it with both parties.

If only the GOP had stuck to their Contract With America pledges. Instead of abolishing the executive washroom that is Washington, they just changed the lock on the door.

I think if Fred runs, he'll win the nomination.

For as much as I like Newt, and acknowledge how brilliant he is, he's got some heavy personal baggage to bear.

This is turning into an "All Rudy" network. . .

Frankly, I'd take any of them over any of the Dem candidates.

You need a none of the above option.

Wow. It's RudyVille here.

While that saddens me a bit, at least almost all of the (Republican) candidates are just as tough on terror as he is.

If I wanted a New York liberal, and I don't, Hillary would get my vote. No Rudy for me, thanks.

#17 Sharmuta

Fercryinoutloud! He's not running, he's not in the debate, therefore he's not in this poll.

Yes, and I didn't vote in the poll.

I forgot that you were the master of all that is debated here, so I won't utter FDT's name again if that will make you happy.

Fred Thompson drops a hint on Saturday;

First things first

One thing about folks knowing you are going to speak at the Council for National Policy, you get lots of advice as to what to say. A lot of good advice. Good talking points. In fact enough for several speeches. Also, some of your friends, knowing that you are thinking about running for President, urge you to give a rousing campaign speech.

Hopefully there will be an opportunity to do all of those things but tonight instead of all of that, I want to talk a little about what should be the origin of all those talking points.

/hopefully

I'll never forgive Rudy for persecuting Mike Milkin to jump-start his career. Now before you freak out, remember how you've always been lied to by the MSM, and then go back and look at what really happened.

I won't vote in any of these straw polls until Fred announces.

To all of the "none of the above" crowd.

Al Gore was 550 votes away from being president.

Think about this before you toss away your vote on someone who you agree with in principle, but in practice has zero chance of winning an election for dog-catcher, let alone President of the United States.

I'd vote for Jeb Bush he he was running just to piss off the LLL.

Ron Paul.

and no, he isnt a truther

My vote goes to Fred Thompson

I was going to vote for Rudy, but after reading about how he treats his family (or ex-families), I can't in good conscience.

McCain I guess...

Fred Thompson won my heart after I saw his response to Michael Moore. I can't even bring myself to vote for any of the others...

Newt Gingrich is considering entering the race this fall, after all these RINOs have trampled each other down.

Draft Santorum, there's a real candidate for ya.

screw this...NEWT not Fred

Fred / Rudy 2008

Rudy Giuliani, John McCain & Mitt Romney are just more of the same old RINOs.

I'm for Duncan Hunter. I live in his district. He has actually been doing something about illegal immigration for many years now, not just talking about it.

My second choices would be either Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul.

Fred Thompson. I'd sit out the election if McCain was the nominee.

#34 GOPninja

Ron Paul.

and no, he isnt a truther

roger that, ninja, but he's sure flying under the radar. I don't know anything about him from the MSM, guess I'll have to go look around!

#17 Sharmuta

I can write in my vote. This is America.

Duncan Hunter if I must chosse from the 10, but only because he knows the proper role of government is to drop precision guided bombs on to terrorist's houses.

#12 Imploder
~~~
Not only will he not watch out for your guns, he'll take them from you. And then give them to homosexual couples as wedding gifts!

*KIDDING, no flames please*

I noticed Fred Thompson wasn't on the list. Is that some sort of typo?

#40 akak

I'm pretty sure he's planning to run for vice-president, because he isn't planning to announce anything until the end of September.

Rudy all the way.

Dangit, why all the votes for the RINO/faker Guiliani? Seriously.

Pro-abortion, Anti-2nd-amendment, Pro-Dhimmitude, Pro-Lawbreker, Signed on to Bush's traitorous amnesty idea for illegal aliens... this guy is a joke that should have been stopped long ago.

#48 Insert Clever Name Here
Rudy aborted my coconuts!

I will vote in the primaries and the election, but I'm a none-of-the-above for this poll.

I'm pretty sure Fred would trounce Rudy like a family of ten trounces on a bucket of chicken...

I'm actually intrigued not by the polling skewing heavily towards Rudy, but that certain candidates are getting hammered - McCain getting outvoted by the likes of Tancredo and Hunter.

Very interesting.

Shoulda thrown Newt into that poll, at least for posterity ;-)

Rudy Giuliani is by no means perfect, but who is? What people in life do you agree with 100 percent? I'll venture to guess "few to none" would be the predominant answer.

Rudy Giuliani is the ONLY candidate with a chance to take New York. and the Repubs ONLY chance to win the Prez in '08 is to take a big blue city.

So for all of those one issue folks out there that disagree with Rudy about one or two issues ... Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

I selected Rudy myself. But any currently running Republican Presidential candidate will be a far better choice for the White House than any currently running Democrat Presidential candidate, hands down. Let's not lose track of that fact. :-D

McCain has been cool on Iraq, but that is all. He is not a conservative and has had many bad ideas about immigration and, obviously, Campaign Finance about which I can't forgive him.

Ron Paul is the candidate of people who would vote for Dennis Kucinich, if not for Kucinich's opposition to the military use of orbital mind control lasers.

I'm looking forward to 8 years of Rudy Derangement Syndrome. It's going to be twice as fun because it exists on the left and the right.

I want to make the moonbats heads explode!

Cheney / Rove '08

Fred Thompson, dad gum it.

Charles, I know you are prepared but watch out for poll spamming from digg.

#61 Mr. B

Ron Paul is the candidate of people who would vote for Dennis Kucinich, if not for Kucinich's opposition to the military use of orbital mind control lasers.

OK, who's going to clean the beer off my monitor (I'm in Germany, it's way past happy hour).

#61 Mr. Beamish

"Ron Paul is the candidate of people who would vote for Dennis Kucinich, if not for Kucinich's opposition to the military use of orbital mind control lasers."

Not quite.

If Rudy wins, I wonder who he will pick as a running mate?

If Hillary wins is there any doubt she will pick Obama as her running mate? (eeek. The Socialist/major Socialist ticket. It must be defeated.)

I should be reading, but at night I use the TV to help zonk me to sleep. Every night at 9:30PM there is an entertainment /hollywood program on. I stopped there because the show was pimping Hillary--- naming her "most influential & successful" blah blah blah. Singing her praises while she sat there looking modest. I thought, What the hell has Hillary actually accomplished as senator? Not much. Someone should start a blog naming Hillary's accomplishments. What are they!?! (other than getting elected in a liberal area of NY state)

When things really get going in the 08 election season the media/Hollywood are going to pimp Hillary; shamelessly promote her 24/7. Television and print media will become a pro-Hillary campaign ad. It will be everywhere. We aint seen nothing yet.

I voted for Rudy, but I also like Romney and was surprised to see how far ahead of McCain he is for the second place position.

For those who said "none of the above," seriously people, you need to be grateful that we have so many strong candidates for a change. There are several whom I would be okay with, and that has never happened in the history of my voting life.

For those who voted for Rudy, why do you think he is so far out in front, and do you think that our little lizard poll is representative of Americans in general?

Eighteen injured people were admitted at Barzilai Medical Center in Ashkelon Tuesday evening as a result of the Qassam barrage which hit Sderot.

18! way to go George...can't you get them there a little faster...

p.s you don't goddamn know this is gonna happen after it's frigin announced

Sorry folks, but if you can't announce a US military delagation is coming to study the Sderot problem, you think they are gonna put on a show? How did they know to hit so hard?

Remember people, this is primary talk. No "baby out with the bathwater" talk yet. Although, I'll be the first to hammer you with it after the primaries.

#12 imploder 5/15/2007 1:26:08 pm PDT

Can't vote for Guliani, though, he won't stand watch over my guns.

Do you really think that anyone on the left would be better then Rudy?
Damn, grow up!

I'm sticking with Rudy now that I've invested $3.00 on a Giuliani '08 bumper sticker.

Right now Tom Tancredo is my #1 choice solely because of his tough stand on illegal immigration and sealing the border. His chances, however, are slim so I voted for Rudy. I would really like to see a Newt G./Tancredo ticket.

My vote is for Romney; he's my favorite of the list.
Although my hope is that the Dems splinter themselves by '08. I'd love for Nader to run again as an independent and Gore to run as a Green candidate and take away the lunatic base of the Democrats.

Oh, I'll never sit out the election or vote for a dhimmicrat, I'm just hoping to get a guy more along the lines of what I believe in the Republican primaries...like Fred!

I went to HS 455 in Brooklyn so I have every right to say this.

The last thing this country needs is a politician from NY. At least if Beastllary get elected I know what I'm up against and won't get blind-sided. With Rudy, he has the potential to give you a good bangin' without a kiss.

We sure don't need that again.

GO FRED

Cattt 5/15/2007 1:37:49 pm PDT

Fred Thompson, dad gum it.

I like it! cept his "why I shouldn't vote for him is" ...well dadgummit worthy of exploration.

"Who is your first choice for GOP presidential candidate?"

That's how the question is worded and look how even the readers of LGF respond. Giuliani and Romney. The question wasn't "who has the best chance of winning in 2008" or who has the best chance against Hillary or Obama.

I find it kind of interesting how fast people will jump on the bandwagon of a candidate.

Why are so many people gung ho about Fred Thompson? I never even heard of the guy!

For all those of you who are pro-life -- please, don't even dream that a pro-life candidate can win. I'm not entirely unsympathetic to the political position, but am just speaking strictly pragmatically here. A pro-life candidate can NEVER win, never. Don't be silly. Cast a foolishly idealistic vote and watch Shrillary/Obama win. When the Dems allow the Muslim takeover, we will ALL be "aborted." Just remember that.

#72 Da Beerfreak

Do you really think that anyone on the left would be better then Rudy?
Damn, grow up!

:rolls eyes: dude, last time I looked, there were other people running for the Republican nomination. Rudy would never get my vote. I'm in the Republican party, I participate in the primaries.

So no, you grow up. And go play with your "jump to conclusions mat" (Office Space reference).

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Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney are winning this poll. Have you all lost your minds?

RINOs, RINOs everywhere...

RAH!

There is only one issue, and that's the War on Terror. All other issues take a back seat, because unless we win the war, the other issues will be decided for us by our islamic overlords. And when it comes to the war, I trust Rudy.

#70 akak:

The Hamas rocket attacks on Sderot coincide with Jerusalem Day/Naqba day, and were designed to take Palestinian minds off the internecine fighting between Hamas and Fatah. They're hoping to get Israel into the fight. I hope Israel does take them up - with lots of artillery and airstrikes against PA, Hamas and Fatah facilities.

#58 Bob The Builder
~~~
Excellent point on needing some blue states / cities.
The problem is that for R.Guliani, it ain't "just one or two issues." I think comment 52-mirth lists several and there may be more.

AmzngSpidey 5/15/2007 1:34:30 pm PDT

#40 akak

I'm pretty sure he's planning to run for vice-president, because he isn't planning to announce anything until the end of September.

Fred the figure head & Newt...I'll pay taxes for that!

Of course you mean, Judy. (drag)

Or Jooody. (pro-Israel)

I'm looking forward to a debate that's honest and intellectually stimulating as opposed to the caricature of a debate that was recently chaired by Chris Matthews. Hopefully, no questions such as "Jodie in CA wants to know how many soldiers we've lost in Iraq" or "Tell us what you detest most about the USA".

That debate was to market to the Dems, just how ridiculous the Republicans are. They succeeded in making many, I hope, think twice about the MSM. Unfortunately, their aversion to Fox News will not illuminate matters.

Although I am a huge fan of Tom Tancredo, I was disappointed in his showing in the last debate. He was treated poorly by the creep Chris Matthews but that's no excuse.

On the other hand, every time I have seen Duncan Hunter I have been more impressed with his ability to speak strongly on the vital issues of borders, sovereignty and defending the nation. He was Chair of the House Armed Services Committee and has more leadership cred than Tancredo.

In addition, he was early to recognize that bad trade treaties diminish sovereignty. He was a leader in the fight against NAFTA in the early 1990s, where he joined with lib Rep Marcy Kaptur in opposing the treaty. I remember them as the anti-NAFTA odd couple and they were an effective team.

To me it increases his stature that he can join with others of generally differing views on specific issues and make the partnership work. That's real leadership and politics practiced in a good way.

#80 American Jewess

This is Fred Thompson (video)

I would like to see a new list with Fred Thompson and Newt Gingrich added.

80 AmJew in Jer.

In the words of the Geico caveman...'Huh?"

Every Republican US President, ever, has been pro-life. Your statement that no pro-life candidate can win flies in the face of history.

#89 ICNH

Excellent point on needing some blue states / cities.
The problem is that for R.Guliani, it ain't "just one or two issues." I think comment 52-mirth lists several and there may be more.

Yeah, but Rudy loses the "gun-totin' redneck and pro-life south and middle america". It's a wash.

Okay. So I have voted Romney, because he is presidential and has the managerial skills to lead the U.S. If I had to vote on principle, I would have gone for Ron Paul. The GOP must get back to limimited government, free markets, individual responsibility and private initiative if it wants to keep calling itself conservative.

I'm waiting for the:

Dorito, Landing Strip or Sphinx? question.

HAHAHHAHAAHHAHAH!

#80 AJIJ

A pro-life candidate can NEVER win, never. Don't be silly.

Call me silly but wasn't the last 3 out of 4 Presidents pro-life?

uh oh,

I'll vote for Hillary Clinton over John McCain, because she's at least open and honest about being a Democrat.

#6 imploder
Put Fred Thompson up there and I'll vote.

#9 Backstaber
I might also like Newt.

Please don't include me in your suicide pact!

Both of those guys have a 0% chance of actually becoming president.

rudey is a gun grabbing liberal, folks. But, he is a baby killer.

I'm a big fan of McCain, although Romney has made a huge impression on me lately

What's going to piss me off most about the 08 election: conservatives who stay home or vote third party out of some sense of purity.

I will support and vote for the candidate who wins the nomination. No matter what.
There are some good men running.
Party trumps person.
Perfection isn't on the menu.

The modern Democrat party is the new socialist back-stabbing power-mongering party. That party cannot and should not win.

If the big tent party can't pull it together, the dems will seize power. the dems might seize power anyway. They are desperate and their subjects are willing to cheat and slash tires to win.

Sharmuta 5/15/2007 1:45:10 pm PDT

There is only one issue, and that's the War on Terror Islam.

Qur'an 8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."

Thompson/Newt.

And build up a team of the non-nominees, maybe name some cabinet positions during the campaign.

btw, voting now works for me, before it "just spun", but maybe it was just really slow before.

To "looking closely":

I voted for Bush in 2000. It prevented Al "I made a documentary that was less truthful than a disaster movie and hollywood still sucked my dick" Gore from being President.

I voted for Bush in 2004. It prevented John "fuck the troops" Kerry from being president.

What have I been rewarded for my vote with?

- Inflation is on the rise.

- Bush sold us out to the oil ticks and gas is up above $3/gallon

- Bush ran in 2000 promising a large increase in border patrol agents, instead there's been no increase, the national guard are "on the border" but not allowed to do anything except run away if they're approached by anyone wielding something more threatening than a butter knife, and sure as hell not allowed to arrest the lawbreaking fence jumpers. His toady Johnny Satan's down here running trumped up charges on the existing border agents while refusing to prosecute the drug smugglers and violent gangs.

Crime in my city is up 200% from when Shrub the Traitor became prez, my kids' public school district lost its last english-speaking school (they're all "ESL PRIMARY" now) 9 months ago, and our hospital is about to close down (meaning we'll have to drive 50 minutes to even get to the next emergency room) because they're so far in the red thanks to jerks who run off without paying emergency room bills - and all because of the illegal aliens from MexSHITco.

I want to know how much money or how many hookers the corrupt MexSHITcan government gave Bush to sell us out like this.

- Bush sold us out to the corn lobby, so in addition to the oil ticks gouging us, 10% of our "gasoline" is now a corrosive substance that destroys fuel lines and causes engine trouble. It's "ethanol", aka Corn Whiskey, and in addition to damaging engines and ruining fuel efficiency (while giving no per-mile decrease in emissions) the price of corn-related products are now up 100% because half the corn crop is being wasted making this crap.

You wanna elect Guiliani, who's another Bush clone? You want John "whatever I need to say to get elected" McCain? Fuck that. I'm done with the Bush-types, and there's no way I vote Democrat. I'd rather sit home than pick between a douche and a turd one more time.

No one impresses me yet. Sorry.

#93 brenda - I agree.

heh, gilmore with a whopping 4 votes

91 Ben Hur

I'd like to see Judge Judy as PM of Israel. She'd take care of those pesky Arabs ASAP.

To all you anti-Giuliani Lizards: vote for whoever you like in the primaries and I'll do the same but (dang it!) vote Republican in November whoever get the candidate is.

/...and I'll do the same.

#71 Spenser

It could just be me being dense, but I really didn't get your point.

So in the interest of clarifying my point, I am talking purely strategy here.

Sure the Republicans could run a bible thumpin' anti abortion, flag wavin', heroic guy who may even be the "perfect" republican candidate. But will that candidate be able to win the in the generals?

In my mind, the idea of a primary cycle is for the party to find the most "electable" candidate, or am I missing something?

Put it this way, The executives at Law and order said Fred Thompson WILL NOT be coming back for the next season of law and order. This is can only mean one thing. RUN FRED RUN!
He will run and he WILL get the nomination.
Blue state RINOS who vote for RUDY in the primaries wont count for shit in Red state America, Hes got more positions on Abortion and Guns than the Karma sutra. Screw il douche.

is the DNC media in charge of this debate as well?

The most important thing to do is vote for the Republican candidate in the general election, whomever that ends up being.

I would vote for a ham sandwich rather than any of the Dems.

#69 Jewess

For those who voted for Rudy, why do you think he is so far out in front, and do you think that our little lizard poll is representative of Americans in general?

Giuliani has tremendous national (and indeed international) name recognition for his masterful handling of 9-11, and its aftermath. There are precious few who could have done what he did (Hurricane Katrina. . .cough. . . ), and even his most hardened critics give him that.

On this board, the support is obvious.

Rudy has been a stick-it-to the terrorists guy from way back when he was a Federal prosecutor, to when he had Yassir Arafat booted out of Lincoln Center in NYC, to when he told an overstuffed Saudi Shiek to take his blood money and shove it where the sun don't shine.

Both of those guys have a 0% chance of actually becoming president.

I'm willing to put $100 on that.

#87 Iron Fist
I'd like to see a Fred(!) vs Rudy poll. It looks like where this thing is headed.

#62 Killgore Trout

I'm looking forward to 8 years of Rudy Derangement Syndrome. It's going to be twice as fun because it exists on the left and the right.

smirk, smirk. ... bwha hahha haa! LOL!

Hes got more positions on Abortion and Guns than the Karma sutra.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA !

#110 M1rth - I doubly agree!

#35 ballantrae (et al.)

My vote goes to Fred Thompson

Who is this "Fred Thompson" person?

Are you all being serious?

zombie 5/15/2007 1:49:19 pm PDT

#6 imploder
Put Fred Thompson up there and I'll vote.
#9 Backstaber
I might also like Newt.

Please don't include me in your suicide pact!

Both of those guys have a 0% chance of actually becoming president.

electability ...shame on you Zombie

Sorry to say for all you Pro-rudy lizards, but i just cant vote for a man who hates Ferrets. ;)
All you NY'ers know what im talkin 'bout right?

WHERE'S FRED!?!

if (FRED == CANDIDATE) {
FRED = PRESIDENT;
}

Killgore Trout,

I'd like to see a Fred(!) vs Rudy poll.

I'd like to see a Giuliani / Thompsom ticket.

Zombie, I disagree, with name recognition (and positive one for that) I think Thompson can win. I think one of the reasons that Reagan won was because he kept his face front and center as the spokesman for GE. I think that Thompson being on a relatively popular TV show gives him a real boost.

I also think he should be on the list as he is fundraising and has an "exploritory committee."

Can you give us a 'none of the above' option, Charles?

Who cares about guns? Not even Giuliani would "grab" them. Yes, he's for gun control, but there is no indication whatsoever that he'll be proactive in that regard when he's President.

The only core issue that should guide a voter when picking a candidate is how well they understand the present threat and how intensely they will fight it overseas, no matter the polls and the costs.

The rest is irrelevant for another decade.

Hmmm ... I think I may have mispoken.

I am willing to put $100 that Fred Thompson will win, Zombie.

#104 Zombie

Please don't include me in your suicide pact!

Both of those guys have a 0% chance of actually becoming president.

I remember for the 04 election I was staying in Spain. All of the Spainiards I met told me it was a foregone conclusion that Kerry was to trounce upon Arbusto (Bush).

I told my one friend, "Oye, nosotros somos muy conservador, tu veras..." We are conservative, you will see. I believe that, yes, we have the urban islands of liberalism, but there are so many conservatives on social issues like life and guns.

Hell, even the UAW hacks will have a hard time pulling for Hillary/Obama. I don't know, this election, I feel it, something unexpected is going to happen.

Qur'an 9:29, "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."

-Cair?

Rudy!
Rudy!
Rudy!
Rudy!

Those will be the chants we here throughout all of 2008 up until election day and then the day after, after the Democrat fails to concede the election because of concerns, the chanting of Rudy will continue until he is rightfully ascended into the Presidency by the Electoral College.

Also, straight R ticket for local, state, and other federal elections.

We can't fight and win this war with an opposition party as traiterous and backstabbing as the Democrats.

This time, lets hope the leftist kooks make good on their promiste to make Canaduh, home.

#96 and #100

Yes, I know, but back then, America was not nearly so polarized as it is today, nor was the Supreme Court so close to reversing the Roe v. Wade decision. Libs are more scared than ever and I believe they will mobilize on this one issue. Also remember that Bush BARELY won the last election, barely, and a couple of conservative justices have been appointed since then. Libs are frothing over this and even Dem moderates who might vote Republican get squeamish about pro-lifers in power. I'm just sayin'. I think it would be hard for a pro-life candidate to win. Listen, I hope I am wrong and that you are right. But I don't want to take any chances.

#128 El matamoros

Ferrets For Freedom

#80 AJIJ
~~~
Was Ronald Reagen pro - life? Was George H.W. Bush pro - life? Was George W. Bush pro - life? (hint: yes)

Not picking a fight here, but but where exactly is the "pro - choice is the only winning strategy" evidence?

Rudy has to fight like crazy to get the GOP nomination.
But if he does, he can and will talk circles around any of the Democrats. The man has a gift for speaking and I respect that.

I have to scratch my head reading some of the comments here. How many of you here are pre-911 Republicans? How can anyone here not know who Fred Thompson is? Sheesh. Everyone here should go to Free republic and Consevative underground to get the pulse of red state America. Rudy no es muy populares con los estatos rojo. ;)

#134 Patrizio

Who cares about guns? Not even Giuliani would "grab" them. Yes, he's for gun control, but there is no indication whatsoever that he'll be proactive in that regard when he's President.

Many care about guns, and know the most erosion happens when no one is looking.

The democrat congress will chip away at the second ammendment with impunity.

Civil rights are civil rights, and must be maintained as such, even in the face of global conflagration...

So many choices and only eight months to decide.

104 zombie

Both of those guys have a 0% chance of actually becoming president.

You're correct. Being that Politics is about compromise, I'm supporting Rudy, because the candidate I'd really love is not electable. I'll keep my eye on the prize and support someone who can keep the White House out of democrat hands.

Giuliani is the only one of the bunch that can win California and, having moved their primary ahead to Feb. 2nd, Clifornia will make a difference this time.

#120 looking closely - It's too bad that Rudy will surely shred our Constitution more and further erode our national sovereignty.

If Rudy makes it to the genreal election in Nov 2008 as the Republican candidate, I will vote for the Constitution Party.

RINOs, RINOs everywhere...

110 M1

You might want to clam down and check your facts:

The real reason gas prices are up is that the US hasn't built a new oil refinery in 30+ years. Blame that on the greenies, the dems, and the oil companies who don't want to shell out the $$$ to build one anyway. BUSH DOESN'T CONTROL GAS PRICES.

I voted for Rudy for one simple reason. At the present moment in time, I believe that he has the best chance of all the candidates in this group to defeat the Democrat! Keep your eyes on the prize.

#131 Ringo the Gringo
I'd really prefer to have Rudy in the driver's seat but I'm flexible on that.

#145

I was a pre 9/11 Democrat, and I haven't had a television set for 3 years. Maybe that explains why I haven't heard of Fred Thompson!

#110 M1rth

Look, politics is the art of compromise.

Nobody you stick in the White house is going to solve all your problems, nor even address MOST of them.

You cast a vote for President, and you are electing a professional POLITICIAN. That means someone who craves power, and will lie to you, not maybe, but DEFINITELY, and that goes for all of them. That is the nature of the job.

All Presidents have only a certain amount of political capital they can spend to get things done. . .and that's no matter how good their hearts or pure their intentions.

That's the reality.

You want to vote for someone who agrees with you 100% of the time on all issues and shares all your priorities?

Run for President yourself, because that's the only way you are going to get that!

I'd like either of these two tickets:
Fred & Rudy
Fred & Mitt

I think that both Rudy & Mitt are too liberal on social issues to lead the ticket for the conservative base. I believe that Fred is a libertarian/conservative and would give the ticket a balance that the base could embrace. I like Newt alot but I don't see him as a positive for the ticket across the nation. Just my $.02.

The poll needs a Fred Thompson option. Because that's my first choice.

#143

I responded already at #140 -- I think our posts crossed in the mail. :-)

so all the threat levels are freaking out?

3 horse race clearly on that front Rudy/Fred/Newt

got any 5 letter guys?

146 imploder

Yes, but not at the expense of ruining the entire country. No one can reasonably argue that the gun issue is where the country's future is being decided right now.
---
And I'm appalled at the amount of people here, in a news junkie/politically centered blog, that say they are not satisfied with any of the ten Republican candidates, and say they will not vote. It seems human mediocrity knows no boundaries.

Rudy.

Also, what channel is the debate on?

It really doesn't matter anymore. The Republicans are caving in on the amnesty deal Reid and the White House are pushing through. Once they give blanket amnesty to the illegals, along with double the legal immigration in the bill, the Republicans are in the minority forever.

/sorry, I'm just so disgusted

The primaries are "everyman's" chance to shape who the candidate actually is in November 2008.

There should be stark differences between the two parties' candidates by then. There won't be if no one takes the primaries seriously.

The current more-than-nominal conservative candidates split some 45 to 55% of the GOP polling among themselves, even though none are currently the frontrunner now. To me this means conservatives will eventually determine the GOP candidate, when time comes to get behind one.

I don't think the field will look like this come this time next year.

As Kirche said on an earlier thread:

but boy would i love to see thompson mop the stage with moore's stupid ass.

and then walk over and punch him in his big, fat idiot mouth.

you know, if he actually did that, he wouldn't even have to campaign for the presidency. he'd just have to play a video clip of him punching moore a week before the election and win by a landslide.

He'd definitely get my vote if he did this

Rudy is fine - but he is a longshot. Imagine this scenario - A Republican candidate divorced twice with ugly divorces following accusations of adultery facing a Democrat woman who endured her husband's infidelity with humility in front of a international audience.
What has the world come to when Republicans field adulterers and Democrats field traditional values? Crazy.

Mitt Romney - smart, serious, conservative, runs his campaign expertly and is just the kind of 'friendly' face Americans are looking for. We need friendly now - it sells.

#134 Patrizio

The only core issue that should guide a voter when picking a candidate is how well they understand the present threat and how intensely they will fight it overseas, no matter the polls and the costs.

Rudy understands it more than any other candidate in either party.

#134 PAtrizio

"Who cares about guns?"

Dude I Aint even going there. Seriously, im, not.
All i have to say is a RINO, pro-abortion, anti-gun candidate WILL NOT get the nomination, Period. Its as simple as that. Yes it really is.

#154 Iron Fist

That's not what I'm saying. I mean that the abortion issue may bring apathetic Dems out to the voting booths, and moderate Dems might have a hard time voting for a pro life president at a time when Roe v. Wade could be close to reversal.

#58 BobTheBuilder
Rudy Giuliani is by no means perfect, but who is? What people in life do you agree with 100 percent?

Exactly. The best I ever get with any presidential candidate is about a 35% agreement rate.

With Obama and Edwards, I have about a 1% agreement rate. With most of the names on that list, or at least the ones I recognize, it ranges up to maybe a 20% agreement. Rudy rates maybe 25%.

The second factor is electability in a general election. A hard-right conservative just can't win, despite everyone's fantasies to the contrary. Just as a hard-left candidate can't win.

This country is close to being evenly divided on political opinions. The candidate nearest to the center will win.

Better to have a center-right candidate win than a center-left candidate.

Run a hardcore conservative against Hillary and you will be weeping bitter tears for the next eight years.

Romney FTW. I can look past his crazy Mormon beliefs as long as he does a better job then G.B. at immigration and terrorism. McCain too old and busted. Great patriot though.

Ack! I'm tired and need to go to bed. I mean that apathetic Dems mobilized to vote will naturally vote for Shrillary. A pro=life candidate might turn no-voters into voters for Shrillary.

#161 Patrizio

Yes, but not at the expense of ruining the entire country. No one can reasonably argue that the gun issue is where the country's future is being decided right now.
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And I'm appalled at the amount of people here, in a news junkie/politically centered blog, that say they are not satisfied with any of the ten Republican candidates, and say they will not vote. It seems human mediocrity knows no boundaries.

Who said that? Who said they will not vote?

Are we not talking about primaries? I've already gone over this before. No, I'm not happy with any of the candidates that are listed on the poll, and I would not vote for them in the primaries if I had other choices, which I predict I will.

Why the ad hominem about mediocrity? I mean where is that coming from? Is it because some people see other options that Rudy?

I won't vote for Rudy in the primaries, never, ever ever.

No faced with a choice between Rudy and hillary or rudy and obama, the choice is clear.

Drink a shot or something to calm down.

#156 looking closely -

Look, politics is the art of compromise.

Comorpmise? yes. Complete sellout? No.

Rudy and others of his ilk? Sellout.

#110 M1rth

WOW! You got issues beyond my desire to contest, so many targets, so little time.

Thats odd...

I don't see Victor Davis Hanson on that list...

RISE
&
FALL,
R

I don't get the big romance with Fred Thompson. I think people just read into him what they want in the ideal Republican candidate. No one is the ideal candidate. I'm interested in 1) who can take the offensive against terrorism, and 2) who can actually get elected. So far, that's Rudy. OTOH, he's weak on immigration, so if Fred will take a strong pro-enforcement, anti-amnesty stance, I'd be very interested.

#171 Zombie

Just as a hard-left candidate can't win.

So socialist Hillary and avowed double-socialist obama are good to go?

#145 El matamoros

Agreed.

"La candidatura de Guiliani es un chiste enfermo."

Rudy doesn't believe in G-d.

just kidding!

HAAHHAHA!

We need friendly now - it sells.

Well I ain't buying. I don't need or want friendly. Feelings are for pussies during these times.

I want a prez who the Imams will be afraid of and the rest of the tin pot dictators have nightmares about.

#180 Mr B

"La candidatura de Guiliani es un chiste enfermo."

Me parece que Rudy ya salio pero la luz permanece encendida...

#150 Escovado 5/15/2007 1:58:11 pm

#120 looking closely - It's too bad that Rudy will surely shred our Constitution more and further erode our national sovereignty.

I beg to differ. Giuliani has made Federalism a pretty big part of his campaign so far.

If you think he's going to grab guns, think again. That was a losing issue for the Democrats, and they all know it. Even *they* aren't going there. .why is Giuliani going to waste political capital on that?

If Rudy makes it to the genreal election in Nov 2008 as the Republican candidate, I will vote for the Constitution Party.

Your choice, but its a wasted vote. Who exactly are you trying to "send a message to"? The majority of Republican primary voters who chose Giuliani? (ie the 20,000x more voters who would ever vote for the Constitution party?).

Think this candidate (what's his name again?) is even going to make it on the ballot in all 50 states? I bet Charles could get more votes for President (easy).

However liberal you think Giuliani is, he stands about five notches to the right of ANY Democrat.

FRED!

#157 Geewiz

Yes, i do think i would vote for a Fred/ rudy ticket. or Fred/Mitt ticket.

I could "deal" with Rudy as the VP, just not as the CIC. When it finally comes to him getting his own election after fred in 2016, (LOL!) People on the national stage will have seen enough of his BS antics to realise what a fascist he is and he'll go down in flames.
Sucks to RINOS!

Ruuudy!

Remember, a vote against Rudy is a vote for Hillary!

#132 david e
I think that Thompson being on a relatively popular TV show gives him a real boost.

He's on a TV show? Is that why everyone is familiar with him?

I'm beginning to get the picture.

174 imploder

I drew those dashes in there to separate a paragraph that wasn't directed at you. Also, I was referring to people who said they'd rather stay at home in November than vote for Giuliani or any Republican candidate they don't like because of some pet non-issue like guns, abortion or immigration.

Of the current candidates, and without looking at other comments, at the moment I think Giuliani is least bad. If Fred gets into the race, he's my definite choice; in fact, I changed my voter registration to vote for him in the primary if he does.

#189 Zombie

He's on a TV show? Is that why everyone is familiar with him?

I'm beginning to get the picture.

He was also a multi-term senator from the great state of Tennessee.

I'm surprised you've never heard of Fred Thompson, he's been on the national stage for a decade or two.

Mitt has 24.7% of the votes yet I have but there are very few pro Mitt comments. Interesting.

Why can't the Republicans field a real candidate?

I've only seen Mitt on TV once. He's got a big problem with christian conservatives who see mormonism as a cult. I'm just throwing that out there, and it is true.

Mitt would have a hard time with the southern baptists.

#97 imploder

Yeah, but Rudy loses the "gun-totin' redneck and pro-life south and middle america". It's a wash.

Errr … That would be me your describing there buddy, and I'll still support Rudy. He won’t get my guns (even if he were to try … I have good hiding spots!). Midwest folks are nothing if not practical.

It's tough out here in "fly over country" and we have to work together to get things done even if our coworker is kind of a jerk. Same concept here, just on a larger scale.

#171 zombie

"Better to have a center-right candidate win than a center-left candidate."

From the Midwest Rudy looks like the center-left candidate. Republicans don't win elections by moving to the left. Embrace conservativism!

Fred.

from above, true, as in Mitt will have a problem with the southern christians, not that mormonism is a cult.

I'll let people decide what they think about that on their own.

Right now I'm not sure who?

I do like Hunter because I was from San diego and did see the work he got done.

But who knows. Let's see what happens down the road. (M1) take a deep breath.. Yeah I'm not happy about some of the things GW has done too.
But I'm not jumping off the bridge either.

#195 imploder
I think the Mormon thing makes his unelectable too. i have nothing against Mormons but I don't think the American public will go for it.

#196 Bobthebuilder

It's tough out here in "fly over country" and we have to work together to get things done even if our coworker is kind of a jerk. Same concept here, just on a larger scale.

Bob, I know what you mean, I'm a West Texan who just happens to live overseas due to military obligations.

I like Rudy. But Fred Thompson does KICK ASS.

Don't miss this!
Fred Thompson doesn't have time for Michael Moore (that lying agitprop-producing left-wing sack of communist sh*t)

I like the fact that the Republicans finally have some good choices.

I may have to hold my nose when I vote, but I will vote Repulican even if it's a Rino. The thought of The Beast or Osama Obama make me ill.

#145 El matamoros
I have to scratch my head reading some of the comments here. How many of you here are pre-911 Republicans?

Not me. I still wouldn't count myslef as a "Republican."

How can anyone here not know who Fred Thompson is?

Sorry for letting you down! His name is so generic. I seriously have no idea who he is. [Looks him up on wikipedia.] So -- what's the big deal? He still seems generic.

Sheesh. Everyone here should go to Free republic and Consevative underground to get the pulse of red state America. Rudy no es muy populares con los estatos rojo. ;)

Hardcore conservatives and hardcore liberals are not the issue here. We already know how they're going to vote. What matters are the wavering wafflers in the middle. That's where elections are won and lost.

where is the vote for none of the above?

I'm from Massachusetts and i wouldn't vote for Romney. I also didn't vote for Kerry - this state produces the worst candidates - anybody remember Dukakis and the Massachusetts Miracle?

imploder #192

"He was also a multi-term senator from the great state of Tennessee. "

Multi-term Tennessee senators who also act don't have a great track record in presidential elections.

#201 Killgore

i have nothing against Mormons but I don't think the American public will go for it.

Well it doesn't help when it's the only thing the MSN talks about. DUMB!

#205 Zombie

Hardcore conservatives and hardcore liberals are not the issue here. We already know how they're going to vote. What matters are the wavering wafflers in the middle. That's where elections are won and lost.

True, dat...

Nice to see Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo ahead of John McCain no this one...

*on*

Some help, Preview.

#207 Brooklynjon

Multi-term Tennessee senators who also act don't have a great track record in presidential elections.

Oh yeah? Who was the last one?

The problem with Ron Paul is that the MSM will try to depict him as a Bircher if he continues to attract more and more attention. The positions he takes are good, but the positions deserve a better spokesman.

I'll ask again: Can we all agree to vote for the Republican nominee, whoever it turns out to be?

107 FrogMarch

The modern Democrat party is the new socialist back-stabbing power-mongering party. That party cannot and should not win.

Amen to that.

I caught a few minutes of Rudy talking to one of the MSM Smirkbots on Sunday morning. The conversation was surprisingly friendly - I flipped through just before he non-answered a question about gun control with some nonsense about enforcing laws in NY - but he did mention that he had actually read the Federalist Papers. I couldn't believe it. A politician who's actually read the Federalist Papers? AND he can speak in complete sentences?

It is pathetic that we've fallen this far, but given that the alternative is minority rule by a shrieking mob of Socialists, appeasers, dhimmis, Clintonites, Lost Boys, Truthers, Hippies, and worse... This is no time to vote Libertarian.

#175 Escovado

Rudy = sellout.
OK, then. Humor me.

If Rudy is a sellout, what does that make Hillary Clinton?

Which Republican candidate for President (ie someone you do NOT consider a "RINO") isn't a "complete sell out"?

If there is anyone who meets your criteria, would you then explain how their major positions differ from Giuliani's versus (say) every Democrat candidate?

Does your non-sellout have a snowball's chance in hell of actually getting elected?

I'd say Zombie has it right. Nobody is perfect, and EVERY politician is a "sellout". That is the nature of the beast.

I'm not saying you have to like Giuliani, nor vote for him in the Republican primary. I'm just saying that if you think you are a Republican and adhere to "Conservative" values, despite all his flaws (and yes, there are many) Rudy is still a better choice than ANY Democrat.

Let me put it a different way.

How does splitting the Repubican vote (by tossing yours away to some third party long shot) do anything OTHER than help the Democrats?

Since June will be out this evening with friends, and I'll be in charge of putting the girls to bed, I might get to watch some of this debate.

I gather I didn't miss anything by skipping the last one.

Thompson '08

We haven't had a yankee president since JFK.

Dat-gummed new england commie pinko liberals!

Thompson '08

imploder,

The Goracle, no?

#214 I'm with you Ringo

#187 El matamoros

I could "deal" with Rudy as the VP, just not as the CIC. When it finally comes to him getting his own election after fred in 2016, (LOL!) People on the national stage will have seen enough of his BS antics to realise what a fascist he is and he'll go down in flames.

I agree and add that Mitt is more of a presidential type than Rudy.

192 imploder

He was also a multi-term senator from the great state of Tennessee.

I'm surprised you've never heard of Fred Thompson, he's been on the national stage for a decade or two.

Yeah- he's like one out of 100, zombie. How could you not know that?! And while we're at it I'll tell you he voted against convicting Clinton, supported John McCain in 2000, and now works with hollyweirdos. What a staunch conservative!

None of the above.

My candidate must agree with my interpretation of Chapter 16 paragraph 3 of "Wuthering Heights," and present his/her detailed plan to enact federal laws reflecting it. He/she must say "po-TAY-to" and "to-MAY-to." I have found a candidate who matches these requirements. I will write in his/her name in the Primary. I suggest you all write yourselves in, and we'll see who winds up going up against Hillary.

If my candidate does not get nominated, I'm going to sit on my ass on election day and laugh while all the idiot Democrats go running out to vote for that stupid Hillary. Boy, will that be funny.

#214 Ringo

Yes, I will.

I'm dumbfounded by the fact that the more I research Mormonism, the more it resembles Scientology. The reason is I really like Mitt, I think he's a swell guy and I can't believe someone as smart as him would think there were ancient judeoegyptian civilizations in precolumbian America.

#179 imploder

So socialist Hillary and avowed double-socialist obama are good to go?

Problem is, they're crypto-Socialists. The conservatives are up front about their conservatism. The libs just lie, lie lie and try to get their communistic agendas enacted as stealth candidates. Unfortunately, many many voters are fooled.

#223 squarepeg

LOL! You are awful!

#206 sonny286

anybody remember Dukakis and the Massachusetts Miracle?

Yes ! Fondly!

#209 imploder

#205 Zombie

Hardcore conservatives and hardcore liberals are not the issue here. We already know how they're going to vote. What matters are the wavering wafflers in the middle. That's where elections are won and lost.

True, dat...

There's no Reagan out there, so the hardcore conservatives will have to choose between Rudy and Billary/Obama. Rather than berate Guiliani's lack of "true conservative" credentials, they'd be better off helping elect solidly conservative Representives and Senators. Congress is the real battleground.

Haven't read the comments, don't have time. But all you Guiliani fans know his stance on guns (lots of control), immigration (soft and quishy on illegals) and that's all I need to know about him politically.

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, just now.

I think someone told John McCain that he's being beaten in the LGF poll ...

... by Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter and Ron Paul, to say nothing of the others!

215 Pawn of the Oppressor

It is pathetic that we've fallen this far, but given that the alternative is minority rule by a shrieking mob of Socialists, appeasers, dhimmis, Clintonites, Lost Boys, Truthers, Hippies, and worse... This is no time to vote Libertarian.

That's all I'm saying...

More (#93) on Duncan Hunter...

He is a decorated Vietnam War vet. His son served as a Marine captain in Iraq. He won his first Congressional seat in a Democratic district by campaigning hard and effectively on his principles.

Duncan Hunter -- The Class of Reagan

In an Arizona Republican Party poll in January, Hunter won over better known (but less conservative candidates) like Romney and McCain.

Longshot Hunter Touts Win in Arizona Straw Poll, as McCain Runs Fourth

Hunter is the real deal, non-RINO, strong on borders and defense.

*Representatives*

Congresscritters, ya know...

#189 Zombie

Thompson took over Al Gore's Senate seat in 1994.

Look, i dont like to fight with lizards about this stuff so im gonna back off. That is what sucks about the primaries, its basically civil war or "the night of the long knives" :0
But i suggest you really look deeply in both the positives AND negatives of all the candidtaes you are likely to vote for. Plenty to find on Youtube and various conservative of republican websites. I just find too many negatives with Giuliani for him to be a viable Repub candidate. The chrstians wont go for him. Nor will Libertarians if they look into his actions in NYC. I lived in NYC during his Reign so i hate his guts, but then again i am biased becuase of that. Oh well.

#228 BobTheBuilder

I remember the "debate" they had on Saturday Night Live, and the platform that Dukakis stood on. I raised up electrically; a little dig at Dukakis's height (or lack thereof).

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Sincerly,
Your friendly, neighborhood meat robot

P.S. So far, I'm nothing but a random, quantum mechanical assemblage of atoms; "Nature" has yet to determine if I'm one of the "fittest." So take what I say with a grain of salt. I may be in a Godelian mental loop and not know it.

#215 Pawn of the Oppressor
It is pathetic that we've fallen this far, but given that the alternative is minority rule by a shrieking mob of Socialists, appeasers, dhimmis, Clintonites, Lost Boys, Truthers, Hippies, and worse... This is no time to vote Libertarian.

Agreed 100%.

If we had the "LGF Comment Rating System" in place, I'd glue a gold star on your comment.

Right now I'm torn between Rudy, Mitt, and Fred Thompson.

Um, none of the above?

Fred Thompson is the man!

And while we're at it I'll tell you he voted against convicting Clinton, supported John McCain in 2000, and now works with hollyweirdos. What a staunch conservative!

Kinda like Newt Gingrich shilling for Medicaid prescription drug entitlements and global warming.

The only conservatives in America are bitching on the internet.

#235 mac

Thompson took over Al Gore's Senate seat in 1994.

But but but, we just have to move left to appeal to the center!

ummm. None of the above? If I HAVE to choose, it's rudy.

Which candidate can stop the bloodshed and bring peace

to Philadelphia

#233 Brenda

Hunter is my first choice, too, but the Media finds it very easy to ignore him. Hell, Fred Thompson get more press than he does.

#223 squarepeg

None of the above.

My candidate must agree with my interpretation of Chapter 16 paragraph 3 of "Wuthering Heights," and present his/her detailed plan to enact federal laws reflecting it. He/she must say "po-TAY-to" and "to-MAY-to." I have found a candidate who matches these requirements. I will write in his/her name in the Primary. I suggest you all write yourselves in, and we'll see who winds up going up against Hillary.

If my candidate does not get nominated, I'm going to sit on my ass on election day and laugh while all the idiot Democrats go running out to vote for that stupid Hillary. Boy, will that be funny.

LOL! That earns you THREE gold stars!

I have to admit, I'm not wild about most of the front-runners, but Rudy is the one Republican candidate for whom if he were to win the nomination, I would not vote. I could even choke down the gorge and vote for McCain, but Rudy? Not in a million years.

Bloomberg is gonna throw the whole thing to the Dems anyway...

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

#240 Ward Cleaver

I'm with ya there but I think Rudy or Mitt are too liberal on social issues for the conservative base. Partner either one of them with Fred at the top and I think we have a winner!

#237 Ward Cleaver
I was looking for the video of Dukakis's tank ride.

One of the most comical press appearances by a candidate in a presidential run that I can ever remember.

Dukakis's shark jump moment, if you will.

Dissatisfied with your options?

Those who would prefer Hillary, Barak, or John ... don't be shy, just speak right up!

Where do I write in Newt?

Duncan Hunter is my first choice all the way. I am absolutely certain that if more Republicans just got to know him, they would really like what they see in him as a potential Commander-in-Chief.

Duncan Hunter is great. I like him.
He's someone to watch!
I don't understand why so many in the purity party are whining so much. These are excellent top-notch men! Add Newt and Fred in there, and it's even more stellar. Meanwhile, the democrat candidates are all stuffed-shirts.

anyway.. wouldn't it be funny if the ticket ends up as:
Hunter/Thompson

hehehee

My main concern is that Bloomberg or Hagel will form a third party and muck everything up, creating a Democrap victory in "08".

#225 Patrizio
I'm dumbfounded by the fact that the more I research Mormonism, the more it resembles Scientology.

I strongly recommend that you Don't Go There.

It's actually more wacky than Scientology.

The main different is that, through all its wackiness, Mormonism teaches morality and family values, so that Mormons, despite having apparently bizarre religious beliefs, are usually very good people.

#248 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

See #223 by squarepeg

That was satire ... aimed right at you.

Fred Dalton Thompson

I notice, at least as of this post, that Duncan Hunter has more votes in the straw poll than McCain. THAT at least really cheers me up.

OT: US to build Afghan super-madrassas
Fitzgerald: The terminal naivete of Westerners

Key word here is terminal.

#246 Spiny

True enough that the media is fixated on "top-tier" candidates. But I'm a little disappointed that so many here want to ignore the interesting people -- the ones with ideas -- to make political decisions that aren't necessary for a year and a half!

At least on LGF we should be able to discuss the important policy differences.

Besides, the long campaign season may burn out one or more of the top dogs and a lower-tier guy may rise up. McCain may already be toast.

I certainly hope that McCain drops off the radar. That would be one less open-borders puke to worry about.

I must say, I'm surprised at the numbers Rudy's pulling here.

As to the gun issue, if DC appeals the en banc district court decision, that whole issue may be settled prior to the election. If you care (one way or the other) about the second amendment, that's what you should be watching, not the views of any candidate.

#205 zombie

"How can anyone here not know who Fred Thompson is?"

Sorry for letting you down! His name is so generic. I seriously have no idea who he is. [Looks him up on wikipedia.] So -- what's the big deal? He still seems generic.

LOL! thats actually funny, i never thought of it that way. His name really is like a "Tom Johnson" or John Smith kind of name. As to how i found "out" about him was i had seen him in Movies and i knew he was a Senator from Tenn. But thats all i knew until about a year ago.
But because i hang out in Conservative websites ,it was those sites that led me to LGF :), That people turned me on to "The Fred."

The problem as i see it is that this election has REALLY started early and it has thrown off people who are just mulling about trying to decide if they should run. This could make a lot of R voters unfamiliar with Fred if he waits too long. He has to jump on real soon.
Also, a big plus about him is he has a really hot young wife! >:) The man truly is an Alpha male! hee hee.

#233 Brenda

Thanks for the Duncan Hunter links. I've been routing for Rudy, but Hunter might be the complete package. Tonight, I'll be watching closely.

re: 262 Brenda

That would be one less open-borders puke to worry about.

That is the real issue. Terrorists could nuke New York, Washington, Chicago, and LA, and the nation would survive.

If we do not close the borders it's game over.

Rudy the RINO no no no! Good grief there's no way true conservatives could like him based on the bulk of his positions. Clearly too many people are voting for who they think is electable, it's just sick and wrong. Rudy pro-abortion, weak on second amendment rights, very very weak on illegal immigration, also a friend to the gay rights movement, and clearly leans more towards the Secular Progressive side of things than the social conservative side.

#257 zombie

Quite right. Thanks for saying that. I actually am very fond of Mormons. A Mormon family took me under their wing during a very, very difficult time in my life and I will always be grateful to them for that. In general, they have good, loving families and clean, pure values. The belief system is wacky but I don't hold that against them. I'm sure they think I'm strange for my daily religious rituals.

IMO the problem with the ten little indians is that they are all acting like wannabees... why else would they put up with these preposterous "debates"?

Fred doesn't even show up, but puts up a very short video via a small specialty news service, on the same day of the "debate", and gets more publicity and kudos.

Amongst the 10 little indians combined with Snow White and her 7 dwarves there isn't a one of them I'd think is really presidential material. Some of them are just looking for their 15 minutes of fame... while some others are taking a break from their 10 year stints as talking heads on the Sunday morning "news" programs...

Give me a choice of real leaders.

Please.

From Chuck Yeager's website, an endorsement of Hunter for President from the original Mr Right Stuff himself.

#249 Soccar dad

You actually got that Backackwards.
If Bloomberg runs he'll actually siphon off dem votes not REpublican votes. Just like Rudy, the man is a NYC RINO LIBERAL. He's anti-gun (just sued gun sellers), he's Pro-choice, He's a whiner, Hes anti-freedom (passing all kinds of Anti-smoking legilation), Etc.etc. Basically he's Rudy-lite. If he were to ever run he'll get a lot of dem votes but no Repubs. So actually here's hoping that he WILL run. Run Bloomy run!

Bloomberg is a dmeocrat. err I mean a real Rino.

Don't forget the aesthetic aspect. It's trivial, yet very important nowadays.

Who would you vote for based on looks?

Mitt

Fred

257 Zombie

Exactly! That's the paradox. I am simultaneously against all the bigotry and hatred Mormons unfairly face and puzzled by how utterly crazy their views on history, their Pope-and-Prohet-in-one Joseph Smith and the rest of their beliefs are.

Bloomberg actually was a Democrat right up until declaring in the race for mayor. OTOH, he's been a pretty effective mayor. A lot of that is due to the fact that Rudy handed him a city that was basically functioning well, unlike the dysfunctional, ungovernable disaster that Rudy inherited.
It's easy to dislike Rudy if you lived in New York while he was mayor. It's hard not to love him if you lived in New York BEFORE he was mayor.

Like several others, I'm not voting in this poll since I'm wanting to vote for FDT.

I'll vote for the Republican nominee - but Rudy is too soft on guns and immigration for me. Mitt just isn't 'exciting' enough. Others have too much baggage/not enough name recognition to have a chance in the General.

Its not quite the same demographic as here, but it is interesting that the pajamas media straw poll where you can vote for FDThompson shows him with 48% and Guliani with 11%.

Gotta love someone who slapsdown Michael Moore!

Fred now!

One more comment... the elephant in the room so to speak though few here will recognize it... the "ten" are all... old white guys.

Really, take a look around at your society. The RNC is serving up a slice of America that is too narrow. Fred (or Newt) doesn't help in that regards but both of them have enough moxy that they may overcome that stigmatization.

The other side is serving up a woman, a black man, and a Latino... not that I'd want to vote for them (maybe Richardson would be ok), but there you have it.

GWB has served up two african americans as successive secretaries of state (the most distinguished of all appointed positions), and littered his other appointments with Latinos. That is important even if only as tokenism... sometimes tokens count.

279 freetoken

Bush's appointments were far from tokenism. His personal relations of trust with Condoleezza Rice and Alberto Gonzales, to name just two, are well documented.

Rudi is the worlds biggest RINO. A gun grabbing, baby killing, cradle to grave entitlement loving liberal. He will NEVER get my vote. I would vote for that moron McCain first.