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PELOSI LOWERS THE BOOM
Wed May 16 2007 14:43:59 ET

After losing a string of embarrassing votes on the House floor because of procedural maneuvering, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has decided to change the current House Rules to completely shut down the floor to the minority.

The Democratic Leadership is threatening to change the current House Rules regarding the Republican right to the Motion to Recommit or the test of germaneness on the motion to recommit. This would be the first change to the germaneness rule since 1822.

In protest, the House Republicans are going to call procedural motions every half hour.

Developing...

From Drudge ([Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

how come ron paul isn't an option?ha ha

How about Guiliani / F. Thompson?

I am not sure its Ron Paul supporters spamming for Ron Paul, but perhaps democrats spamming for Ron Paul.

Victor Davis Hanson for VP! (Though I'd vote for him in a heartbeat if he ever ran for President, he'd also make a damn fine Sec. of State)

Song and dance man, too early to tell.

Interesting showing between the two polls. I also saw the Fox News polls, it looked like the voters on the poll picked Mitt as "Most Presedential-looking". What the heck does that mean?

When it gets right down to it, I'd only vote for a Dummocrat if Zell Miller were running. Otherwise, hold nose and pull the (R) lever.

JAFLW

I’m sure Rudy’s impassioned response to Ron Paul is largely responsible for the bump

I'm sure you're right Charles, because that's the kind of thing we want to see in our President- outspokenness and passionate response to outrageous comments and actions. I hope his words will lead to deeds, and we'll continue to fight against islmofascists.

GO RUDY!

Hey, Ron Paul got 21% in the first debate. Why isn't he even on the second poll

/hiding now

Bruce Willis for veep.

My cat for veep.

We're never going to have another Dick Cheney.

When are primaries starting? Next winter?

And here some are declaring Rudy the nominee and picking out a running mate for him.

Amusing.

I've got Poll Lash.

Poll Lash

Poll Lash

Poll Lash!

/sorry Kush

Speaking of debates: cowardly Dems flee Fox.

BTW, Ed, a massive t-storm is ripping thru Central Jersey right now.

Well, I missed the debate, so I have nothing intelligent to say on the subject.

HEY WHO JUST SAID "WHAT ELSE IS NEW"?

Can we be sure that it is a poll?

/sorry. shouldn't poke fun a serious previous threads.

Wow... I was just checking out what happened in the RIP Falwell thread after I left. Makes the fabled "globular clusters" thread look like a frickkin' tea party.

#4 steve miller

How about Guiliani / F. Thompson?

Frudy!

I know the focus is on Rudy and Mitt - with the sideshow of the Paul stomping on his own crank - but a couple of things from those polls:

1. McCain is toast...a 5.2% to a 3.4%? That's hardly going to attract buzz and $$.

2. Hunter - from a 4.4 to a 6.1 despite about 30 minutes without a question? He seems to be positioning himself for a VP or SecDef slot...and could be a spoiler / kingmaker if he continues to grow support / responses like that.

3. Thompson and Gilmore will be the likely first 2 to drop. Paul should join them, but he will try to hang until he's rightfully booted from attending the next debate.

#5 taxfreekiller - "This is hack work, below the honor of littlegreenfootballs."
What?

Rudy or Fred for President, and the babe in the conservative t-shirt ad on the right for VP, just to keep it interesting...

#20 realwest

I can't believe you asked taxfreekiller to repeat/clarify himself.

tfk, did you see Cognito's comments on the last thread?

6 Largecanine 5/16/2007 12:50:47 pm PDT

I am not sure its Ron Paul supporters spamming for Ron Paul, but perhaps democrats spamming for Ron Paul.

I think you are right.

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9 Sharmuta 5/16/2007 12:52:42 pm PDT

I'm sure you're right Charles, because that's the kind of thing we want to see in our President- outspokenness and passionate response to outrageous comments and actions.

Yeah it's good and healthy to see someone get angry when it's a righteous anger. ron paul needs to hide and I hope his career is decimated...isolationist wimp.

Ron Paul estas frenezulo kaj perfidulo , just ask Eric, that`s Esperanto for Paul is a lunatic and a traitor.

Apropos of nothing: Some folks need to learn that if each and every e-mail they send you is titled "URGENT!", pretty soon you'll just start ignoring them.

Pelosi's Gambit [Jonah Goldberg]
Boehner's office just sent this out:

DEMOCRATS TO CHANGE 185 YEAR-OLD HOUSE RULE TO ALLOW TAX HIKES WITHOUT HAVING TO VOTE

May 16, 2007

In a stunning move, House Democrats today revealed they will attempt to rewrite House rules that have gone unchanged since 1822 in order to make it possible to increase taxes and government spending without having to vote and be held accountable. House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) today vowed Republicans will use every available means to fight this unprecedented change.

“This is an astonishing attempt by the majority leadership to duck accountability for tax-and-spend policies the American people do not want,” Boehner said. “The majority leadership is gutting House rules that have been in place for 185 years so they can raise taxes and increase government spending without a vote. House Republicans will use every tool available to fight this abuse of power.”

Last November, House Democratic leaders promised the most open, ethical Congress in history:

“[W]e promised the American people that we would have the most honest and most open government and we will.” (Nancy Pelosi press stakeout, December 6, 2006)

“We intend to have a Rules Committee ... that gives opposition voices and alternative proposals the ability to be heard and considered on the floor of the House.” (Steny Hoyer in CongressDaily PM, December 5, 2006)

The rules House Democrats are seeking to change have not been changed since 1822.
Republicans have already achieved significant legislative successes on the House floor with 11 consecutive “motion-to-recommit” victories that exposed flaws and substantively improved weaknesses in underlying Democrat bills. But rather than living by the same rules which have guided the House of Representatives for 185 years, Democrats are proposing to change the rules in order to game the system and raise taxes and increase spending without a House vote. What are House Democrats afraid of?

Anyone know what this means?
PELOSI LOWERS THE BOOM

After losing a string of embarrassing votes on the House floor because of procedural maneuvering, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has decided to change the current House Rules to completely shut down the floor to the minority.

The Democratic Leadership is threatening to change the current House Rules regarding the Republican right to the Motion to Recommit or the test of germaneness on the motion to recommit. This would be the first change to the germaneness rule since 1822.

In protest, the House Republicans are going to call procedural motions every half hour.

Developing...

I have a copy of Robert's Rules of Order around here somewhere.

#27 J.D.
Heh. Jinx!

After losing a string of embarrassing votes on the House floor because of procedural maneuvering, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has decided to change the current House Rules to completely shut down the floor to the minority.

They will stop at nothing. Democracy doesn't mean squat to these pseudo-Communistas.

What else is new?

#29 Killgore Trout
Ha!
20 whole seconds!

#1 song_and_dance_man

I'm tellin' ya. Don't count yer chickens yet, cause all the chickens aren't on the roost yet.

There may be a real rooster yet, to knock off that scruffy and balding one you have yer heart set on...

24 Highrise

Yeah it's good and healthy to see someone get angry when it's a righteous anger. ron paul needs to hide and I hope his career is decimated...isolationist wimp.

Frankly, if Rudy had let that comment go without a response, I'd have thought less of him.

Rudy’s impassioned response to Ron Paul is largely responsible for the bump

I noticed that during the 2000 race, I was more often impressed with candidates after they no longer had any chance of winning. I attributed it then to the fact that they felt more free to speak directly, since it didn't matter anymore if they ticked off people. Not saying Rudy has no chance, just agreeing that people crave plain speaking.

What we usually get is comments designed first and foremost to tick off as few people as possible and say as little as possible while sounding like they said a lot.

Anticipation, anticipation
Is makin' me late
Is keepin' me waitin'

Fred Thompson is playing this anticipation thing like a maestro. Pretty soon, we will be demanding him! Come on already!, we're ready for Freddy!

Don't blame me, I voted for Sanjaya.

So who's been padding the poll results in favor of Rudy. Aside from Ron Paul's self-destruct I thought everyone handled themselves very well.

House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH)

I urge all Lizards to write to Congressman Boehner in support of his fight against tyranny. I just did.

[Link: johnboehner.house.gov...]

#38 taxfreekiller
Rudy will abort yer gunz!

#37 Guy Philly

Anticipation

Come on Fred, let's see what you got.

#33 J.D.
I'm still trying to figure out how serious this is. I've been watching the koskidz launch into hysterics over stuff like this for years. It might be meaningless.

I'm not a Democrat, a nutcake, or a spammer. But I resent having the poll biased by taking out someone you just plain and simple don't like. There are those of us in the conservative camp who actually believe in smaller, less centralized government and while we may not agree with Paul's foreign policy views (I sure have a different view than him!), we believe that his small government vision should be heard. And maybe, possibly, hopefully, we can get the Republican Party to actually follow its own rhetoric on domestic policy instead of being just another tax-and-spend party like the Dems.

I just linke don other thread to regional radar showing fun and excitement in Northeast corridor.

NYC about to get clocked!

Might get some hail even. Clocked is a relative term, in Dallas or Oklahoma City that is a regular Spring storm.

Someone's been taken out of the poll? Who?

/heh

Charles,

Where is Ron Paul on the second poll graphic? I know he was in the poll, but he does not show on this graphic with results.

As an aside, Ron Paul is the reason that being a Libertarian looks better from a distance. I have been called Libertarian (since I am in economics), but there are some shortfalls when it comes to actual application.

SY: you're right that I don't like Ron Paul, but you're quite wrong that he was removed for that reason. He was removed because his supporters were gaming our polls, repeatedly. Period.

#28

A motion to recommit returns a bill to committee, in effect killing it. However, a motion to recommit with instructions is a last opportunity to amend the bill.
The instructions to the committee direct changes to the text of the bill. If adopted, the chairman of the named committee immediately stands and reports the change back to the House. The next step is the House vote on final passage of the bill.

Minority Members receive priority of recognition for offering motions to recommit.

#38 TFK

Your posts are mostly single-tracked on the illegal invasion issue, but I'm with you all the way on that one, brother. It continues to be swept under the political carpet. Truly the "elephant in the living room" that most folks are ignoring. This has to be addressed, and now. Nobody seems to be stepping up to the plate. This invasion will surely eat away at this democracy, like a deadly parasite. You keep on keepin' on, sir.

Charles

This must have been asked, but is the poll open to anyone or just registered lizards?

I don't think we have enough trolls registered to play with the numbers.

Would it be a problem to just allow those who are registered on LGF to vote?

I think McCain hastened his swirling down the toilet when he answered the torture question. I don't want a president who cares more about world opinion than he does about stopping an attack on the US.

I just got back from hearing Rudy give a talk -- I typed up my notes and would love to share them, but they are more than 4,000 characters -- is there one of you out there I should email them to?

#45 SY

Ron Paul's supporters were warned before the debate even began not to spam the poll.

So, whatever you may think of Paul's domestic agenda, it's the fault of his supporters that he's not on the poll.

Canadastani: see:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

#6 Largecanine

I am not sure its Ron Paul supporters spamming for Ron Paul, but perhaps democrats spamming for Ron Paul.

Remember how the Dems were afraid of W beating Gore in 2000, so they crossed over into the Republican primaries and voted for McCain whereever they could?

But I resent having the poll biased by taking out someone you just plain and simple don't like

Reza was offended

#46 Ed

Mamaroneck is as dark as night, and the winds are picking up...it is pouring in NYC, and also CT...temp dropped 10 degrees F. here.

Rain is just starting as I type, and distant thunder.

I might just close down in case.

#19 Athos

2. Hunter - from a 4.4 to a 6.1 despite about 30 minutes without a question? He seems to be positioning himself for a VP or SecDef slot...and could be a spoiler / kingmaker if he continues to grow support / responses like that.

I think you are right on in that assessment. I think Hunter is bound and deteremined to be a major part of the next Republican Administration whether he is President, Veep or as you say Sec Def (and he'd make a good one.)

2 ONYXRAVEN1979

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PELOSI LOWERS THE BOOM
Wed May 16 2007 14:43:59 ET

After losing a string of embarrassing votes on the House floor because of procedural maneuvering, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has decided to change the current House Rules to completely shut down the floor to the minority.

The Democratic Leadership is threatening to change the current House Rules regarding the Republican right to the Motion to Recommit or the test of germaneness on the motion to recommit. This would be the first change to the germaneness rule since 1822.

In protest, the House Republicans are going to call procedural motions every half hour.

Developing...

From Drudge ([Link: [Link: www.drudgereport.com...]...]

That's just pathetic. Maybe now the American public will wake up and see just how corrupt the Democratic party has become.

Let's face it, if "President Bush" is followed by "President Boehner", we'll never be taken seriously as a country again. "Johnson" was bad enough.

Cya later! Closing down..wicked storm.

OT ,, but

This actually took longer than I thought it would.

How long have the DEMS been in charge now ,, 4 1/2 months?

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

After losing a string of embarrassing votes on the House floor because of procedural maneuvering, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has decided to change the current House Rules to completely shut down the floor to the minority
The Democratic Leadership is threatening to change the current House Rules regarding the Republican right to the Motion to Recommit or the test of germaneness on the motion to recommit. This would be the first change to the germaneness rule since 1822.

#61 ,, you beat me too it !

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#61 Tricky

Fat chance.

Drudge has the story, but if we start checking 'round the news sites, will we see it?

RAH!

Charles,

why not simply require people to be registered and logged in to vote in the polls?

That way you know you're getting a representative sample of actual LGF readers, rather than LGF readers plus a bunch of Ron Paul supporters who don't read LGF but found out about the poll from someone else.

Just because I think Rudy did the best last night doesn't mean I want him to be President! It will take a whole lot for me to get by the fact this guy has been married three times and to me that does not indicate stability or an ethical mind. And he's supposed to be a Catholic for pete's sake!

I don't trust Mr. McCain since he partnered with Ted Kennedy on immigration. He makes a big deal about it being bi-partisan, I think he is just wrong.

Mitt Romney is coming over better and better to me.

Dear those of you with reading comprehension problems:

Re-read the post stating why RPaul is not in the poll. It's a matter of cheating, not "we don't like what you say so nyah-nyah-nyah."

It's not that RPaul may or may not be nuts, it's that his followers ruin his message. I honestly don't know what's accomplished by libertarians cheating at polls. Does that somehow show the superiority of the libertarian political viewpoint?

grrr.. damn. I had a gigantic post all done about the debate and candidates and it got clobbered in transmission. That is annoying.

Anyways.. here's the shorter version:
Frontrunners are now:

Rudy, who needs to forget the idea of running as a conservative (G.F.Will saying that he's the most conservative in NY is like being the most beautiful at a Rosie O'Donnell look-alike contest.. it isn't a tall order). Could have won the whole thing hands-down had he run as a Dem.

Romney, who also needs to not try to pretend to be a real conservative. He's not quite over that far to the right . Needs to be more responsive to the actual question. Needs to understand that assault weapons bans violate the Second Amendment.. duh.

Huckabee. Line about Edwards was killer. Has the delivery of a minister, which helps. His problem is that he's from Backwater,USA.He was able to defend a tax that the state wanted, a plus. A good potential VP candidate for Rudy

McCain. Too frantic, too forced. Seems like he's on meth or something. He's a meteor looking for a place to crater. I dont think his punch at Romney last night landed, as compared to Romney shackling him to Ted Kennedy (truth hurts, huh?) GOP base is unimpressed with him because he "crosses the aisle" too much

Running, but not gonna happen:

Hunter. Good on defense, and a number of other things. NO executive experience, none, nada. Too long in the House, which isn't much of a qualification. Probably too conservative for most voters. Be a great Sec Def, though.

Tancredo. God love him for his stance on immigration, but he's a one-trick pony. Time to go, dude

Deceased, but dont know it yet:

Gilmore. Never was alive in the first place

T. Thompson. Robot delivery, but without the precision. Was at his limits as a governor or a cabinet member.

Totally deceased, rotting corpse in grave:

Ron Paul. Should never have run, and only serves to distract and absorb money that could be going to a useful candidate. Worm food and fertilizer. Get out NOW.

Not in the game (yet):

Newt... Forget it, Professor Gingrich. Aint gonna happen. A great mind who would serve far better as a kingmaker than a king.

Fred.. You need to get in if you're gonna. Appearance on stage would probably cause the weak candidates to drop out, and would be worth it for that reason alone. Fred could win, he has the conservatives and could probably convince the moderates with logic and persuasion. Masterful response to Michael Moore. Carville's War Room only WISHES it could do it that well, that quickly.

Possible winning tickets:
Giuliani/Huckabee
Thompson/Romney

C

Stay safe, Nana.

Please, can anybody explain me what makes Fred Thompson more qualified to be POTUS than Edwards, for example, or Obama, or Hillary? Of course, I like his stated positions more ( thousgh according to some survey he filled, he was also pro-choice, as Rudy), but what experience does he have to be a successful CEO of the USA?

I know that Reagan was an actor too, but between actor and POTUS he was a successful Governor of CA.

My take is that Rudy has *distinguished* himself from the others, he looks different, he sounds different. The others tend to blend together. Rudy may also be a few IQ points ahead of the others. Now if he could just suppress the clips of him wearing a dress on Letterman a few years ago. Issues? Look, he'd have a major asset in the general election of Not Being Hillary.

For comparison lets show a non internet view of how americans feel about the Candidates.

Here is how Ron Paul does

[Link: legacy.rasmussenreports.com...]

National Survey of 800 Likely Voters
Conducted April 11-12, 2007 by Rasmussen Reports

Ron Paul
very favorable - 3%
somewhat favorable - 11%
somewhat unfavorable - 21%
very unfavorable - 6%
not sure - 59%

#66 Mandy

So, have you decided yet who you are supporting? :)

Let's face it, if "President Bush" is followed by "President Boehner", we'll never be taken seriously as a country again. "Johnson" was bad enough.

Actually there were two Johsons.
How Long Lord?

#2 ONYXRAVEN1979

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PELOSI LOWERS THE BOOM

No justice, no peace, Nancy. No taxation without representation.

I know Fred Thompson has a lot of people excited but what abour Gingrich. I think he would have smoked everyone in that debate last night.

Maybe I got a little over-enthusiastic.

Why would we have German rules anyway?

/rim shot

#72 cali

Huckabee. Line about Edwards was killer. Has the delivery of a minister, which helps. His problem is that he's from Backwater,USA.He was able to defend a tax that the state wanted, a plus. A good potential VP candidate for Rudy

I can't quite put an intellectual finger on it, but I really like this guy. Call it a gut feeling. Should the Repubs take 2008, he would be a perfect fit in a strong administration. JMO.

Ed: want to try that again without the giant red text that blows up the page?

Also as compariosn the moonbats dont want you to know that Hilary is slaughtering Obama in the latest polls

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Hillary Clinton has strengthened
her status as front-runner in the race for the
Democratic Party nod for US president in 2008, putting
the brakes on a surge from rival Barack Obama in the
latest poll.

A Harris Poll released Wednesday found Clinton ahead
by a full 13 points, 40 percent to 27 percent among
Democratic voters nationwide. Her showing was better
than a similar poll in April which showed her leading
Obama 37 to 32.

Darned Yurpian web site

This shows the hurricane

#74

Thompson has 1.5 terms in the Senate to Osama's 1. He was a successful lawyer BEFORE he was an actor. Vanderbilt U makes good lawyers, too.Federal prosecutor ( gee.. like Rudy) Co-Chief counsel to Senate Watergate committee. Was a lobbyist ( and VERY successful at that)American Enterprise Institute Fellow for national security and intelligence. Assisted Chief Justice Roberts through his nomination.

He's better than HilDaBeast in any case.

And he's not a total mental midget like Edwards.

Sheesh. It took me all of 2 minutes to get that info.Must we do your work for you, or are you just being oppositional for fun?

C

So, how about a Rudy for POTUS and Huckabee for VPOTUS? Huckabee creeps me out because he is such good buddies with his fellow dietary nanny billyjeff Clinton, but the social cons love him.

If Rudy is the LGF favorite than we can dispense with the thought that LGF is a conservative blog. Maybe independent, pro-Israel blog would be more appropriate - which is fine with me. There are some doubts about his publicly funded pro-abortion (dislike the "publicly funded" part) stance and his 2nd amendment vagueness. And, while his slap at Paul was needed, it was by no means light-footed or quick-witted or even scathing. I would have hoped for an even stronger blast at Paul from the man who was the Mayor of the New York City that day. If that sort of "9/11" retort is what we can expect a republican candidate to drop on a democrat candidate, considering all the left wing nuttiness associated with 9/11, I'll be greatly disappointed. Put Duncan Hunter's ideas in Mitt Romney's head and you'll have my candidate.

74 finallyhere Thompson has well written, clear, plain-spoken articles that give his staunch positions on issues. That puts him well ahead of Hillary!, Obama, or Edwards.

Um, 40 point font, while it looks fine in preview, is apparently not LGF friendly.

Maybe because I used a "/" to separate Florida and Georgia, making it a single word.

I didn't save the previous post, but lets just say a generally reliable long range model, has suggested that a tropical cyclone forms in the Caribbean off Nicaragua, drifts towards Cuba, and at Day 10, is headed for Florida, to end the drought and make everybody happy.

# 89 Funky chicken

At the Guiliani town-hall meeting today, I heard a fair amount of support for a Guiliani-Huckabee ticket from people who I would otherwise see as Romney supporters -- whatever that means.

May the person who can beat Bill and Hillary Communist, win.

#88 Caliphornian

Lobbyist. Lawyer. 1.5 term Senator. Actor.

It's more than a trifecta of words usually employed with many, ah, colorful modifiers.

Fred Thompson has the ability to cloud men's minds. Maybe some women's, too.

Insert the Shadow's laugh here.

#27, #61, etc.
~~~
I expect to hear the evening news say something like "In an unprecedented move, the likes of which the US hasn't seen since the eary eighteen eighties, Nancy Pelosi, has found a way to effectively silence all opposition in the House Of Representatives. Shocking."

Or not.
(maybe if it was Newt, though...)

Charles, is there no way you can make your poll more resistant to spamming other than removing candidates whom you coincidently don't like? I'm pretty ignorant of the mechanics of stuff like this, but like Jazz, it sort of smells funny.

I'll take this opportunity, since I don't post very often, to say how much I generally enjoy your site. Otherwise I wouldn't bother to criticize.

#81 Knight,

There is no doubt that Newt is an icon of conservatism, but too many from the other team hate him for orchestrating the contract with America (and the capture of the Republican majority in Congress). Don't get me wrong - I think he is a great conservative, but ya have to convince a few conservative (southern) Dems to vote for the Republican nominee if Republicans are to keep the Oval Office. Also, Newt has a few more skeletons in his closet than Fred.

Although I think Ron Paul is a loser, I actually agreed with one point he made. He said we should ask if it is the role of the government to do these things and determine the answer from there. He is right. It isn't the role of government to manage health care, etc.

I guess a broken clock is right twice a day, but he is wrong on Iraq. It is our governments job to protect the people and that falls under protecting the people.

#77 Bill Amos

I would venture to guess that Paul's 59% 'Not Sure' will be seeing some downward motion.

The thing is, except for the Paulian cult members, it will slide into the somewhat or very unfavorable category.

#81 knight_of_st_john

A person involved in politics and I had a discussion around Newt, Mitt, and Rudy. This person was a senior staffer for a Congressman and was in DC in 94 and beyond. He had some very interesting insights about Newt. He is a great policy wonk and really can analyze and understand what works, doesn't work, and why. He can even fire up the troops to move out and fix what needs fixing. However the problem was - a complete lack of focus and real leadership ability. Newt would run a meeting one week, focus on a, fire the troops up to get a, and start them down the path. At the next week's meeting, rather than assess where they are on a and then finish a, he would start up on b and cover all the aspects of b, and send the troops to get b...leaving a undone.

After a while, everyone was confused, and more than a little angry with so many started but unfinished initiatives floating around.

That's not a trait for a Chief Executive. It is someone who would be a good advisor to that Chief - and then the Chief and others would own the implementation.

Bolton: Attack Iran before it gets bomb

Iran should be attacked - as a last resort - before it develops nuclear weapons, former US ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton was quoted as saying on Wednesday.

Ike is in the Med (on the way home) - Stennis and Nimitz are on Station in the Persion Gulf and Arabian Sea.

72 mph winds at the Coast Guard station in Bayonne, and 70 mph winds measured at NEW UTRECH HIGH SCHOOL in Brooklyn Heights.

#95

I see that as a positive in so many ways. Look how well Clinton did by clouding minds..LOL.

The best reason I can see for backing Fred right now is the series of commentaries he's done for ABC radio, that NROnline is publishing on a nearly daily basis. If they truly represent his ideals, then he is what Ron Paul wishes he was. a TRUE Constitutionalist. Without the foreign policy hangups. Thompson also "gets" the struggle we're in against the jihadi's at LEAST as well as any of the other candidates, Rudy! included.

C

#97 SY
I don't see any need to include Paul in the polls. Other online polls have banned him because of his rabid supporters. If the GoP had any sense Paul wouldn't be included in future debates, he's not a viable candidate and serves only as a distraction.

#74 Caliphornian

Do not see big difference with Edwards who was a successful lawyer too. Extra two years or 10 years as Senator does not add any executive experience. Obama got to Harvard (affirmative action or not, they do not take stupid) and was succesful there. Hillary got to Yale and found a good husband, at least succesfull one. And all three of them are very good actors.

So you confirmed for me that Thompson has approximately as much executive experience as Edwards/Obama/Hillary, none. Never managed a budget, never made decisions about taxes, judges, etc.
In fact, buck never stopped at his desk.

They are all bright, so what?

Of course if I have a choice between Fred and Hillary, I would vote Fred, but to compare his experience or absence of experience with Rudy's proven record of achievement is ridiculous.

#97 SY

I'll take this opportunity, since I don't post very often, to say how much I generally enjoy your site. Otherwise I wouldn't bother to criticize.

Sir, if you know nothing about how the system works, why complain about it.

Your not doing yourself any good.

Do you just not read well?

The reason RuPaul is removed is because his followers were not following the clearly-stated rules and ignored the warnings.

What part of "follow the rules" do you just not get?

Johnny - we hardly knew ye.

Your war, your POW stories are sooo very pre- Sept. 11. You started to bore us to tears in 2000 with your heroic tales. Your '60s era POW stories mean nothing in the era of the beheading and burning of U.S. citizens and soldiers. Vietnamese Vinny is a pussy compared to Johnny Jihad.

Now go play "I wanna be Theodore Roosevelt when I grow up" with your toy soldiers and slink off in the middle of the night.

You're persona non grata to 99.9% of Republican voters.

#72 cali

Huckabee. Line about Edwards was killer. Has the delivery of a minister, which helps. His problem is that he's from Backwater,USA.He was able to defend a tax that the state wanted, a plus. A good potential VP candidate for Rudy
I can't quite put an intellectual finger on it, but I really like this guy. Call it a gut feeling. Should the Repubs take 2008, he would be a perfect fit in a strong administration. JMO.

He's got a sense of humor, that's for sure, and that down-home southern style delivery. But I just can't take a guy named "Huckabee" seriously.

Who do you think sounds more frightening to a jihadist in a Waziristan cave:

"President Huckabee"
or
"President Hunter" ?

SOMEBODY GET ME AN IDEALOGUE ! ! !

I hope y'all see that the moonbats are out of control and couldn't win an election to be dog catcher, and pelosi and harry "the war is lost" reid has gone off the deep end for sure, maybe she and he and the swimmer can take a drive!

Hm, lights just flickered here in DC. We've got some weather coming in, too.

#99 Shane

There weren't 9 other candidates up there posturing for better government via bigger government either.

I think you're broken clock analogy is pretty appropiate...but ultimately, how useful is a broken clock? Does the fact that the clock is right twice a day (assuming you will know when it's right) make up for the fact that it is clearly busted...regardless of how nice it looks?

I guess it comes down to the if you would buy that $10 Rolex that 'fell off a truck' at the corner of 3rd Ave and 42nd Street?

It looks like the Yurpeens have taken down Wolfowitz.

Sigh. Another depressing day at the asylum.

#108 SagamoreGal

Your war, your POW stories are sooo very pre- Sept. 11. You started to bore us to tears in 2000 with your heroic tales. Your '60s era POW stories mean nothing

That's a damn rotten shame.

McCain is not my choice for candidate, but he is a true hero. Make no mistake about that. Maybe you don't remember Vietnam, but lots of us do and we will NEVER forget it. We lost a lot of fine young men who gave their lives for this great country and don't you ever ever take that for granted, or minimize their sacrifice.

Too bad if you are bored. Grow up.

The Ron Paul supporters had an organized effort to sway the poll... and he STILL came in third place.

Athos:

That's not a trait for a Chief Executive.

I agree. I've worked with people like this. Great "idea people", but they aren't leaders.

#114 unreconstructed rebel,

GF's they'll take you down everytime. LOL!

/sarc

Bush should now tap Bolton to head the World Bank.

Heh.

#115 mama winger,

You go Girl! Love you to pieces. LOL

105

Hillary only had a "successful" career because she was married to Bill. Do you REALLY think Rose would have hired her, had she not been married to someone who was either AG or Governor of the state? She has administered nothing.And shes NOT a good actor in any way.

Obama's career outside of politics has ONLY been in academia. Not exactly known as the refuge of the competent. He's a pretty good actor, I'll grant, in that he's hidden how radical he really is. He's also a racist.

Edwards does have the more experience in the law, BUT has proven his lack of conscience in his choice of cases to litigate.

The difference here, is that I dont see any attempt along the way by Thompson to HIDE what he really stands for.. in fact, he publishes it out in the light of day. Unlike the others.

In terms of CEO experience, GW Bush beats all of them, Rudy included. does that mean he's done all that great? Maybe that isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Take a little time and do just a little research online. I was a Romney guy until I did some looking around after Thompson started showing interest. I'm pretty much a Thompson guy now, unless someone better comes along.

#120 Nam

I could feel you right behind me with every word. :)

#115 Mamawinger

Thanks for saying what you did. I was so pissed I just couldn't type...

#111 'Nam Grunt

I presume the Swimmer would be driving.

#90 Eric Cartmans Conscience

If Rudy is the LGF favorite than we can dispense with the thought that LGF is a conservative blog. Maybe independent, pro-Israel blog would be more appropriate - which is fine with me. There are some doubts about his publicly funded pro-abortion (dislike the "publicly funded" part) stance and his 2nd amendment vagueness. And, while his slap at Paul was needed, it was by no means light-footed or quick-witted or even scathing. I would have hoped for an even stronger blast at Paul from the man who was the Mayor of the New York City that day. If that sort of "9/11" retort is what we can expect a republican candidate to drop on a democrat candidate, considering all the left wing nuttiness associated with 9/11, I'll be greatly disappointed. Put Duncan Hunter's ideas in Mitt Romney's head and you'll have my candidate.

Romney praised Duncan Hunter on the Medved show after the first debate, and seems to have been picking up on some of his themes in the campaign ads I've heard-particularly on the issue of a strong military. If Mitt is the nominee it would not surprise me if he picked Duncan Hunter to be his Veep or Sec Def.

#119 Occasional Reader

That's a good idea.

The only other alternative would be to just shut down the World Bank and IMF.

# 112 O R

E-mail me, if you get the chance.

#124 unreconstructed rebel,

Of course he always turns left when he sees water!

SY: it's not a coincidence that I don't like Ron Paul. In fact, poll spamming is one reason I don't like him, or specifically, don't like a lot of his followers.

I also don't like that he's nuts. But if his disciples didn't spam our polls, he would still be included.

#123 Dust-off

Thanks for saying what you did. I was so pissed I just couldn't type...

No sir. Thank YOU. Thank GOD for all of you who wear, and wore, the uniform. Where would America be without you all?

Crap - didn't work. Second try...

# 112 O R

E-mail me, if you get the chance.

#122 mama winger,

As always darlin'! ;-)

OT: Harry won't go. "He'd be a major target." -some British talking head on Fox News.

#121 Caliphornian

Do you REALLY think Rose would have hired her?

Those two absolutely destroyed the venerable Rose law firm. I have never understood why some injured party from that has not taken his revenge.

# 129 Charles

Restrict poll voting to registered lizards, if that's a possibility, perhaps ?

Mike C. I will try to do so later this evening.

Newt supporters (and hopefuls), plese let Newt work in the background. Thinktanks and legislation drafting etc.

I love the guy's politics and truly appreciate how he helped get the Republicans into power. I do. I've even read one of his novels!

BUT HE HAS TOO MUCH PERSONAL BAGGAGE! He cannot win. If even someone like me won't support him, he has NO HOPE to win over the squishy middle. That is where elections are won and lost. And that's before the MSM get to pound on him for the six months leading up to the election. He just cannot get past the negatives and win over the swing votes.

Maybe sad, but TRUE.

Home again, home again, jiggity jog.

Nite all.

Ron Paul is not a Texan in my book, my apologies to the Nation, we'll handle him for sure, put him in the barn because he's lathered up with the dumba**!

imo these show that Romney and Rudy supporters (and campaigners?) are spamming the polls too...because Rudy clearly did not win the 1st one and Romney clearly did not win the 2nd (i don't think Rudy did either)

the Fox txt poll also showed that the Hugh Hewitts of the world are spamming for Romney almost as hard as Ron Paulers

Drudge says she's lowering the boom, but I say that Pelosi is just having a temper tantrum.

snip:

After losing a string of embarrassing votes on the House floor because of procedural maneuvering, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has decided to change the current House Rules to completely shut down the floor to the minority.

The Democratic Leadership is threatening to change the current House Rules regarding the Republican right to the Motion to Recommit or the test of germaneness on the motion to recommit. This would be the first change to the germaneness rule since 1822.

In protest, the House Republicans are going to call procedural motions every half hour.

#139 Nam Grunt

LOL >>>>>>>>> nice one buddy!

boy, people who are behind Ron Paul sure are out in force today.

and most have nics with few to no other posts... is this part of the Ron Paul campaign?

I, on behalf of the river rocks used in the construction of the foundation of my home's front porch, would like to express their appreciation to RP for making them appear 'smart' by comparison.

It is an honor extended, recently, to Nancy P., too.

Just me, but I think Harry wants to get in the fight, but I also believe that the powers above made the right call in not letting him go, to protect the men around him, we don't need another BS fiasco over there, we have enough on our plate trying to find these 3 Brave Men!

#139 'Nam Grunt

i hear TX is going blue in 2008...of course i can't complain since my home state already imploded in 2006 (damn you northern VA)

the Truthers & Dems will probably try to pull this BS with Paul on primary day too...gotta admit they're great at voting fraud!

#146 Durendal,

Not in my pasture, we're all sunburned RED!

#145 grunt

we have enough on our plate trying to find these 3 Brave Men!

I pray they find them soon buddy.

Let me spell it out for you:

Poll: open for all
but no spammers

RuPaul's followers spam the poll.

Result: RuPaul booted from poll.

You are free to vote for RuPaul in the primary. You are free to wave your gold coins and demonstrate against the Gulf of Tonkin II resolution.

But your guy is no longer going to be seen or counted because his followers don't follow the rules.

And how does spamming show the superiority of libertarianism or RuPaul? Wouldn't the very essence of "follow the law" forbid you from doing so?

# 136 O R

Rodger that. I don't normally bother to turn my nic blue anymore, so you'll have to go back to that post above. Just want to pass something on.

#149 Dustoff-507,

God Bless them Brother!

What is more important? Worrying what BS the moonbats are spouting or the safety of these 3 Brave Soldiers that are going through torture as we type, I ask YOU!

"I also don't like that he's nuts."

Neither do I, but even more, I don't like that the Republican Party is offering no other alternative to the big-government nanny-state liberalism of their so-called viable candidates. Yes, I know, my hero Goldwater is dead, but why should Goldwaterism be purged from the party so completely? I think it's OK to be against Paul, I think it's OK to believe he's nuts, but I think it's not OK to exclude the not-so-nutty idea of a government with constitutionally limited power and size. And there wasn't another guy on that platform to advocate that the constitution actually means what it says.

#121

I do not compare them Thompson and Edwards based on their views ( as we know them ). In this area Fred beats all of Democrats hands down. But he still does not have any executive experience, so
nobody knows how good he would be at that.
That is all I wanted to say. I personally think that being a successful Governor or similar is a prerequisite to being a good POTUS. It is not guarantee, but gives a hope. You will not give a four years contract as CEO of some software company to somebody who was never a manager, will you?
Even if he is a great programmer and a nice person.

Being bright and having opinions that I like is not enough for me.

During WW especially I want somebody who proved that he/she can make things done big time.

Teacher suspended for 'I'll shoot you' comment to class.

He was previously repremanded for including the biblical account of creation in an assignment about myths.

Man, can't even include christianity in a school even if you call it a Myth? Tough Room.

of course, a judge decided that it was ok to force students to learn Islam and pray to Allah.

Personally I don't care who wins the Republican nomination, he needs to keep us centered on the threat from the murdering bastards, obviously the moonbats are not, do you want them in charge of your childrens lives?

#153 'Nam Grunt; Certainly the latter is much, much more important. But, frustratingly, there is not a damn thing most of us can do about it, other than wait for good news, hope and (for the religious) pray. So I guess in contrast we feel we can at least pretend to do something to fight the culture/language/information war.

#158 Occasional Reader,

Hey buddy! I disagree if real Americans will get off their a**es and vote Republican we can make a difference, instead of sitting on the backup quarterback sidelines carrying a clip board!

159 Nam Grunt

well, let's hope that we find them LONG before we get a chance to vote. (since the election is a year and a half away)

#155

Well, Bill Gates had no managerial experience before Microsoft, so I'd guess I just might give someone with no experience the job of CEO of a software corp. Come to think of it, Steve Jobs had no such experience also. Hard to think of a worse analogy than CEO of software co's, actually. That spot seems to require more creative thinking than most boss-jobs do.

Given our set of choices here, requiring executive experience may not be an option, unless we include the down-ticket of the VP slot. Pick the right team and we can have it both ways.

C

# 72 cali & #109 colonel panik

Who do you think sounds more frightening to a jihadist in a Waziristan cave: "President Huckabee" or "President Hunter"?

Hunter/Huckabee. Alliterative, catchy. Makes a great bumper sticker...

I like President Hunter myself. Makes me think of the HUNTER cop show from the 80s.(I was a kid.)

No skeletons in their closets(to my knowledge); solid guys. [as to the comment in an earlier thread about Huckabee vis-a-vis "Janie's" death: I'm really not sure how any governor could have prevented that.]

These would be the best choices.

In my mind, there should be two Republican primary debates; one between Hunter & Guiliani; the other between Huckabee and Tancredo.(again, these are my FINAL FOUR). However, Romney could replace Tancredo in my scenario.

Hunter/Guiliani & Hucakbee/Romney. The winner of each debate gets to debate each other in a final round; the winner of the final gets the candidacy. The loser of the final is the running mate.

Consider it: the FINAL FOUR. Playoffs work for sports; why not for politics?

#160 LanceKates,

Lance, well we aren't going to do it by bitching about the moonbats, tell all your friends and strangers and discuss to vote Republican and make them know that we are heading for disaster if the moonbats take power, look what they are doing now! ;-)

goodnight all.

163 'Nam Grunt

you know me, no real friends off the blog. heh. ok, a couple.

working on my Sister in Law... she's come around on gun control, and a couple other issues and is moving to the right. Unfortunately my half-brother is a staunch liberal and I don't know that I am strong enough in the Force to change that.

off I go.

I think (statistically speaking) limiting the poll responders to registered members only actually would give an accurate representation of the views of LGF's regular readers. The actual numbers of respondants would decrease, sure, but it seems to me that the percentages would be more in line. Because of the way Charles does registration, only the regular readers are registered anyway (for the most part).

Otherwise, it's pretty tough to take these polls too seriously.

#165 LanceKates,

Everyone should be armed bud, just in case, but there is a larger weapon that needs to be instituded and it doesn't require a license, it's called a voter card and pull the handle that says Republican, if you want you and your family safe!

It's very simple folks come Election Day, who is for our Brave Troops and who isn't? After all they are your sons and daughters, friends uncles and aunts, Lord I wish we would have had the internet during 'Nam it would have had a different outcome for sure!

167 'Nam Grunt 5/16/2007 2:58:41 pm PDT

Everyone should be armed bud, just in case, but there is a larger weapon that needs to be instituded and it doesn't require a license, it's called a voter card and pull the handle that says Republican, if you want you and your family safe!

I'm also hoping that some middle of the road dems are going to wake up watching their party getting taken over by code pink folks. I know if people like ron paul usurped Republicans, I'd run for the hills lol. I'm all for limited gov't but he doesn't do the change we need justice enough to take a chance of course.

#167 'Nam Grunt

the Dems sure like those arms...they have been known to carry several at all times!

61- Tricky Dick

Regarding Nazi Pelosie's attempt to change House rules to suit her agenda...you said:

That's just pathetic. Maybe now the American public will wake up and see just how corrupt the Democratic party has become.

Yeah, right. If they haven't figure her out yet, I doubt THIS will clue them in.

I am wondering how many of you who are supporting canidates who are not conservatives, are going to be back here after the election complaining that your man is not conservative enough. GW Bush part deux.

#169 Highrise,

RP is done, stick a fork in him, hell we Texans might hang him, (joke) for his comments last night, again that's not what Texans are about, look at our Texas Rangers history (read up on it), they would make the Mounties in Canada look like Elton John and his mate! LOL

#172 hous

I am wondering how many of you who are supporting canidates who are not conservatives, are going to be back here after the election complaining that your man is not conservative enough

Ex ac lee

As for me, I want a straight down the line traditional conservative who is SO conservative he makes Rush Limbaugh look like a Democrat. :)

#168 Nam

Lord I wish we would have had the internet during 'Nam it would have had a different outcome for sure!

You got that right ! Instead, we had Uncle Walter every night pissin and moanin and showin nothing but 'atrocities' and days old footage of who knows what, all designed to wear down our resolve. We had no choice. It worked too.

Damn the MSM

#175 mama winger,

Kiss on the cheek my lovely! ;-)

74- finally here

I know that Reagan was an actor too, but between actor and POTUS he was a successful Governor of CA.

Apparently you are not aware that Mr. Thompson was Senator for the state of Tennessee before his acting career?

#177

actor before and after senator..LOL

been reading a couple of the Fredsites for the last few.. his radio commentaries are fantastic. Check 'em out. He fills for Paul Harvey on ABC radio.

C

173 'Nam Grunt

Oh you betcha..NO doubt there.

#174 Mama...

Seems to me all the front runners are liberal republicans.

Once they get the squeeze put on em from the DC crowd and the media, are they going to lean less liberal?

I myself am not impressed with anyone yet, but then I was not able to watch the debates.

I like your view myself.

I like some of Ron Paul's libertarian views...I just wish they came from someone who wasn't so nutty. They should be coming out of someone electable like Rudy or Mitt.

That said, I am still supporting Tancredo/Hunter. But once it's time for the general election, I will support any Republican who is for border security and immigration enforcement. If he isn't...then all bets are OFF.

178- Caliphornian

been reading a couple of the Fredsites for the last few.. his radio commentaries are fantastic. Check 'em out. He fills for Paul Harvey on ABC radio.

I have heard him doing Harvey's show. He's got this great speaking voice, and has that whole substantial gravitas thing going on.

#139 'nam grunt

Ron Paul is not a Texan in my book, my apologies to the Nation, we'll handle him for sure, put him in the barn because he's lathered up with the dumba**!

ROFL - I hate it when work interferes with seeing comments like this in 'realtime'.

I like some of Ron Paul's libertarian views...I just wish they came from someone who wasn't so nutty. They should be coming out of someone electable like Rudy or Mitt.

For someone who claims to be a conservative - it's not much of a surprise that there isn't a great deal of following towards 'Bigger government = Better government'...or that there are some Departments and Agencies in the Federal Government that could use some elimination or serious culling.

However, saying that, at this point, is no different than being on the other side and announcing that 'Bigger is Better' and 'Taxes have to be raised across the board'. It's not done at this point if one is serious.

Here's another consideration - being President, when it comes to the size of government and the bureaucracy isn't the position of control. There is still Congress which holds the purse strings. Sure, the President can put forth a budget that is 50% less than last year's - but if the Congresscritters and their earmarks want to ensure their re-election, they will still send the President a budget to sign that is 10% larger than last year's...and dare the President to repeat 1995. And remember which side the media is on.

Congress also needs to be cleaned out. The problem here is that everyone thinks Congress is useless...except for their local representative. Solve that one...and you're the next Karl Rove.

What would make a very interesting ticket would be Rudy and Hunter...

Hunter would put a true conservative on the bottom half of the ticket, and given that his performance in the debates has given him more visibility and respect, he would definitely help there.
One thing he would bring to the ticket that Huckaby wouldn't (since he also fits with the two points above) is that he hails from California, and a ticket that features a moderate/conservative mix from New York/California (the two biggest electoral vote states) could only be a good thing from the Republicans' point of view.

Rudy as the Republican PRESIDENTIAL nomination screws up the entire party's politics on abortion and gay rights.

I'd rather see Rudy get the VP, and Romney get the presidential nomination.

#168 'Nam Grunt

I could not agree more and so wish we could have had it then but we have it now and I do so hope it makes a difference. Gotta rid ourselves of the "Nam" comparision.

#186 USASupport

I don't see Mitt or Rudy in the #1 slot. Too liberal on social issues to garner the conservative base. The #1 slot needs someone like Fred Thompson to attract the conservative base with Mitt or Rudy in the VP slot. Either ticket is a winner in my book and gives the left a nightmare ticket to face in 2016 when the VP runs for POTUS. JMHO.

Damn, killed another thread, and I thought I got beyond it. Oh well, time to move on.

#185

the problem with Hunter is that while he might be FROM Caliphornia, he doesn't really fit in with most of the population here. This state doesn't vote "favorite son" like some places do. His district, like the one I live in, is an accident of gerrymandering to include as many GOP in one district as possible, in order to create several other safe Democrap seats. His area is a traditionally GOP area that is contrary to most of the state. A similar situation is Oregon state.. the Portland metroplex runs the state, though 90% of the landmass would be red-state territory.

C

#186

by 2016, I think both Giuliani and Romney would probably be a little old. Romney might still be there age-wise, but I think Rudy would be mid-70's or so by then.

C

184- Athos

The problem here is that everyone thinks Congress is useless...except for their local representative. Solve that one...and you're the next Karl Rove.

My local representative is even MORE useless than the average useless Congressman.

#188 GeeWiz

Well I would certainly agree Rudy is too liberal on social issues, although I disagree with people who label Mitt a flip-flopper. I've met the man and heard him speak, he is sincere about his conservative beliefs.

#73 Cartman

I'm baaack! :)

What a mess..over 20,000 are still without power in my county. I shut down about 2 minutes or less before the power blew, and we just got it back.

Parts of NJ and CT are still without power.

I don't even know who the heck Ron Paul is.

Listening to Ron Paul (and seeing who he associates with), I think I'd prefer Hilary!

To #113 Athos

I guess what I would really say is that Ron Paul made a good point. I beleive at this point he can leave having said the only useful thing he could contribute. But, I would like to see the other canidates address.

Ron Paul is the only one who is even remotely close to following the Constitution. The fact the RNC wants to oust him says a lot about the stupid party. Does anyone honestly think Arabs LIKE our foreign policy? He may have been inartful in saying what he said, and half-wrong, but come-on. It's a shame his good ideas are overshadowed by his wackiness though. The Repubs are taking us to hell too, just going the long way.

Ron Paul may or may not be nutty. But he comes across as someone who has to be right. And the rest of us who don't agree with him aren't merely misinformed, we're wrong. Whether the Islamic terrorists kill us because we let women wear sleeveless dresses or because we let people drink beer is a matter of opinion. But difference of opinion doesn't mean some of us no longer respect the Constitution.

Ron Paul isn't going to be the 2008 standard-bearer for the Republicans. The 83 people who support him can, of course, write in his name.

That is, if they're not too busy stuffing online polls.