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Wed, May 16, 2007 at 5:33:53 pm PDT

Here’s another Ron Paul supporter who’s trying to claim the victimhood mantle, conspiracy snake oil salesman Alex Jones: Fox News Claim Ron Paul’s Online Voters Skewed Text-Message Only Poll!

And at LiveLeak: Nice crowd Ron Paul’s running with.

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1 Hucbald  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:39:35pm

Typical bleeting butthole conspiro-tards.

2 kevinmumaw  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:39:57pm

This crowd acts like a cult.

3 Orbit Rain  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:40:20pm

...fucking crazy crowd...never heard of the guy, and after yesterday, I know why he'll be forgotten tomorrow...

4 Mike C.  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:40:26pm

Cripes, Charles - you run a great site, with numbers most others can only dream off. Let the ankle-biters slide. Who cares ?

5 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:41:08pm
6 Mike C.  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:41:24pm

Er, "of."

Damn.

7 LSD  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:41:50pm

Heheheh. Silly DUcks

8 Kulhwch  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:41:59pm

Class will always show.

};)

9 St. Pancake  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:42:27pm

If the commenters on those articles are true to form, then why should we bother with them?

I make it my policy to avoid the conspiracy folks way alone.

10 Yank in the EU  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:42:46pm

Uh oh, going after prisonplanet.com -- that's really going to get the Ron Paul internet gang after you.

11 Insert Clever Name Here  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:42:47pm

Ron Paul / Dennis Kucinich '08 !
woohoo!

12 Sharmuta  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:42:53pm
will go to any lengths to try and dismiss the massive wave of popular support for Ron Paul

Let me tell you Oaulites something- after last night, after what your guy said- I wouldn't vote for him if you paid me.

13 Cartman  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:42:55pm

Ron Paul - "Mr. Irrelevant" in the 2008 presidential draft.

14 whiterasta  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:43:05pm

Blah, blah,blah. Whine, whine, whine. Seethe, seethe, seethe.

I'm a victim, the vast Jewish-Zionist Conspiracy...

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

15 kevinmumaw  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:43:30pm

Has he always been a nutcase or is this a recent development? I've honestly never heard of him until now.

16 onyxraven1979  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:43:33pm

Mention Ron Paul anywhere online, and his followers flock to it. Look at any Digg topic on Paul. Anyone hanging out with Alex Jones should be checked for mental instability.

17 TMF  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:43:42pm

We totally caused 9-11

How DARE we stop a brutal dictator from invading an arab country

How dare we station troops in another arab country to prevent said dictator from invading and/or launching missles into it

How DARE we be a huge supporter of the only real democracy in the ME in it's struggle against islamo fascists trying incessantly to destroy it

We totally had it coming to us

Should have just done the isolationist thing that Woodrow Wilson did so successfully (aHEM HITLER)

THats what IM talkin' about!

/me big idiot. me ron paul

18 Sharmuta  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:44:30pm

Typo day for me- "Paulites".

/not that I cared I spelled it wrong.
//maybe it's blowback

19 Charles  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:44:30pm

You can't believe the hate mail I'm getting. Struck a nerve here.

20 The Other Les  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:44:47pm

Truther: Someone who will believe anything except the truth.

There is one born every minute.

21 Muadib  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:45:19pm

At PrisonPlanet, thinking is not allowed.

22 St. Pancake  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:45:24pm

10 Yank in the EU
Thanks. I searched for more entries on this site. It hit me who in the hell Jones was then.

Argh!

Digg banned them also.

23 curtlbc  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:45:27pm

ron paul? never heard of him

24 Sharmuta  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:45:35pm

19 Charles

You can't believe the hate mail I'm getting. Struck a nerve here.

Can you share any with us?

25 terri g  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:45:49pm

Honestly, I've never heard of him before either and I guess now I know why. He's really out there so I guess him & "the truthers" are cut from the same cloth.

26 Lucius Septimius  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:46:37pm

As this Ron Paul debate continues, my eyes are more and more drawn to the lovelies in the t-shirts in the side bar.

Are we not agreed that he's flat wrong on the issue of terrorism, that isolationism is not an option? And I wouldn't put too much stock in his appeal to the Founding Fathers. The Fathers, while they may have wanted to avoid unnecessary alliances which were prejudicial to the nation's interests (which is what I think Washington meant), they were not above intervention - let us not forget the Barbary Pirates, the Quasi-War, interdiction of the slave trade, or how we got Florida.

27 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:46:58pm
28 The Other Les  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:48:11pm

# 19 Charles

You can't believe the hate mail I'm getting. Struck a nerve here.


Its what happens when you provide hard proof that a self-appointed superior being really isn't a superior being.

29 Atman  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:48:27pm

#13 Cartman
BINGO!

30 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:48:42pm

19 Charles
Please share.

31 Yank in the EU  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:50:10pm

#22 St. Pancake

Judging by their reactions to criticisms of Ron Paul, we seem to have invaded their sanctuary and started pointing out what loons the Ron Paulers really are. "We need more isolationism from reality!"

32 Mike C.  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:50:27pm

It does sound as if a "We got mail" thread might be appropriate, assuming any of it is worthy. Let's face it, folks - most of it probably isn't worth publishing. But if it comes in volume, there might just be that rare gem...

33 WhiteRasta  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:50:35pm

#19, our great Lizard Leader Charles:

..."You can't believe the hate mail I'm getting"...

Yes, I could believe the hate mail you are getting.

As the late, great Robert (Bob) Nesta Marley said:

"The truth is an offense, but not a sin."

Thank you, Charles for telling the truth.

34 Cartman  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:50:51pm

#19 Charles

You can't believe the hate mail I'm getting. Struck a nerve here.

I just don't understand that. Why would this peon have elicited that kind of response, like he seems to have?

35 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:51:04pm

Check out the video posted on RonPaulpresshub...
Gauntlet Thrown: Paul Challenges Guliani to Debate

At about 1:20 he blames 9/11 on "The US occupation of Saudi Arabia".

36 The Other Les  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:52:34pm

# 19 Charles

You can't believe the hate mail I'm getting. Struck a nerve here.


Have you been called, "the embodiment of all evil on Earth."

I have.

37 Insert Clever Name Here  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:52:38pm

They're playing awfully fast and loose with that word, SCHOLAR.

38 Bobblehead  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:52:42pm
Hillbilly heroin popping walrus Rush Limbaugh


The fangs are dripping with venom aren't they?

39 Sharmuta  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:53:12pm

35 Killgore Trout

At about 1:20 he blames 9/11 on "The US occupation of Saudi Arabia".

I thought it was the bombing of Iraq. WTH?

40 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:53:23pm
41 jimash  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:53:30pm

Stupid Truthers are hungry for alternate narratives.
Any truth but the actual truth.

I've seen these so-called Libertarians..
Seen them protesting thhe POST OFFICE.
Not the prices just the existence of the PO.Schmucks.

42 kevinmumaw  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:53:36pm

OK, I'll sign the oral petition...share the hate mail!

BTW...has anyone found any polls that show the level of support the cult leader has? RealClear Politics doesn't list him in the polls. I guess that probably answers my question.

Maybe there is a poll they don't want you to see...you know, the one that shows the "massive support" for Ron Paul.

/sarc

43 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:53:47pm

#35 addendum: at the very end he claims we supplied the gas that Saddam used on the Kurds.

I'm pretty sure Saddam was manufacturing that himself.

44 Noam Sayin'  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:54:05pm

Get over it, dumbasses. Ron Paul is a doddering, old fool, and the only reason he's even remotely cool is that he looHiks like Mr. Hand from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

My apologies to Ray Walston.

45 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:54:17pm
46 republic  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:54:23pm

Hey, if the lunatic leftist kooks want Ron Paul, they should get the Daily Kos to endorse him for a third party candidate.

If Ron Paul were to run as a third party candidate, whom the lunatic leftists obviously love, and it is Ron Paul(I) vs Hillary(lk) or Obama(lk), even I could win as the Republican nominee.

leftism is a mental illness.

47 St. Pancake  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:54:49pm

31 Yank in the EU
Indeed!

Having said that, I also wish existentialism made some sense to me too.
I guess I will have to create my own code of values in order to understand either that, or Ron Paul.

48 ted  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:54:56pm

Does Ron Paul have any relation to this great icon of the 1970's?

[Link: images.search.yahoo.com...]

49 goodbye_natalie  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:55:10pm

#27 song_and_dance,

Charles,

They're just pissed cause Ron Paul has as much chance of being president as Helen Thomas has at having successful plastic surgery.

LOL. Perhaps if Helen had "real" plastic surgery where they knitted a Cinderella head on her stooped shoulders, then?

50 Bill Amos  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:55:31pm

This isnt LGF or any other conservative sites fault. The GOP needs to keep Paul of debates.

Ron Paul should have NEVER been invited to these debates. Hes a kook who really isnt the same stature of any others that are up there.

51 Hucbald  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:55:38pm

He's a quasi-religious figure to those un-truther morons:
"Dope Ron Paul II."

52 Noam Sayin'  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:55:50pm

LooHiks?

Don't know how the hell that happened, unless Charles has installed 'Drag 'n' Drop' text capabilties...

53 Underzog  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:56:13pm

It was pointed out by the Objectivists (from which the acid dropping Libertarians are derived) that the Libertarians have a special hatred for Israel and want it destroyed.

Ron Paul called pro Israeli lobbying evil.

54 republic  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:56:19pm

#43 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty sure Saddam was manufacturing that himself.

Saddam, the "retired swinger".

55 Maui Girl  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:56:24pm

Who the hell is Ron Paul? :0

56 St. Pancake  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:57:26pm

44 Noam Sayin'
Ok, that was mean of you to say that about Mr. Walston. After all, he was my favorite martian. :0

Bring any mezcal?

57 Lucius Septimius  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:58:00pm

# 44 Noam

My apologies to Ray Walston.

But does he have antennae that come out when no one's looking?

58 Balishak  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:58:03pm

From the Liveleak link:
"either the american government killed 3,000 of it's own citizens, or we deserved having 3,000 of our citizens killed, make up your mind mr paul!"

I have been saying that for years about people like him- either Bush is an idiot, or he is an evil genius, you can't have em both. That one is usually met with about 30 seconds of dead air, followed by "but... but... Rove... Cheny..."

Another one is- either the government is your friend and parent, or they are a faceless organization bent on world domination. You can't have both. Oddly I get the same response as the Bush comment.

59 Insert Clever Name Here  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:58:22pm

Charles, seriously, do they (the hate mailers) seem like authentic constitutionalist - libertarian leaners? Or more like 9-11 Truther - Democrat hacks just trying to bug you?

60 republic  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:58:42pm

#55 Maui Girl

Who the hell is Ron Paul? :0

I think he's in the band "Spinal Tap".

:-D

61 PrimePowerPro  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:58:50pm

OT newbie question:

In the left sidebar, there is a Now Playing section; how can I hear whats playing now? Feel free to lampoon me, as long as you also enlighten me.

62 Maui Girl  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:59:20pm

I guess even the Republican party has its share of tinfoil hatters. Smaller percentage than the Dems but nevertheless.

63 Lucius Septimius  Wed, May 16, 2007 5:59:59pm

# 53 Underzog

the Libertarians have a special hatred for Israel and want it destroyed.

?
Elaborate

64 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:00:14pm

#61 PrimePowerPro

how can I hear whats playing now?

Yes, if you know the song you can sing it yourself. Otherwise hum.

65 Against Socialism  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:00:26pm

If you start digging around Prisonplanet and Alex Jones you will see neo nazis popping up around them, and muslims and socialists.
And you wonder why you get hatemail? :)

The name Ted Pike could be familiar for some of you among many others.
Heretic Texe Marrs could be another partly famous person that you know of from the Alex Jones crowd.

66 the_flying_pig  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:00:43pm

Boy, I haven't seen this craziness since Ross Perot supporters attacked Clinton and Bush Sr. supporters in 1992.

67 Yank in the EU  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:01:02pm

#47 St. Pancake

I didn't catch if the Ron Paulers' have a comment about existentialism, but for Camus and Sartre the essence of life seems to be absurdity, which really nails Ron Paul. I guess it works out, lol.

68 republic  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:01:17pm

#58 Balishak

Another one is- either the government is your friend and parent, or they are a faceless organization bent on world domination.

My favorite Ronald Reagan quote,

"The most terrifying words ever spoken,

I'm from the government, and I'm here to help."

69 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:01:40pm
70 NhaTrang72  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:01:47pm

"Neo-con"? This is site full of neo-cons now?

Is this guy on meds, or what?

I thought this was an anti-Mooselim, anti-Arab, hate site, blahblahblah,,,

71 PrimePowerPro  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:02:06pm

#64 KT

If I could hum a few bars I could probably fake it, but CJ has much better taste in music than me. Help?

72 DesertSage  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:02:15pm

Never trust a politician with two first names.

73 Sharmuta  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:02:32pm

61 PrimePowerPro

OT newbie question:

In the left sidebar, there is a Now Playing section; how can I hear whats playing now?

You can't.

/Nobody can

74 The Other Les  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:03:35pm

# 55 Maui Girl

Who the hell is Ron Paul? :0


A Libertarian.

What is Libertarianism?

A Libertarianism is basically liberalism without the socialist frills.

Being a Libertarian is basically an excuse to strut-about and pretend to be a superior being.

(Been there, done that, actually had a tee-shirt.)

75 Maui Girl  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:04:26pm

#72

It's actually very French.

76 Aussie Infidel  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:04:35pm

Paul comments that the CIA assesment says that US involvement in the Middle East causes Islamists to get all nasty and go 'BANG'. That is true. For once the CIA analysts actually got something correct. But to then say that if the US isolates itslef as Paul seems to advocate... then everything in the garden will be rosy and the terrorists will no longer target the US. Here Paul drops the ball BIG TIME.

How many times must it be said. Islamists hate the West for WNAT IT IS and what it represents. THEY WANT TO KILL IS BECAUSE WE ARE INFIDELS... how much simpler do you want to spell it out? Paul has a terminal case of self induced 'real politik' myopia.

The last thing the US needs is to withdraw behind its borders. That way leave the power vacuum that the Jihadists will fill immediately. Sure there may be a few less US casualties initially but when the hoard is at the gate and the rest of the world is under the Muslim heel... it's a wee bit late to find one's cajolies Ron.

78 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:04:40pm

#4 Mike C.
I find the rabid Ron Paul crowd fascinating. I just looked at the recent referrers page again and most of the incoming traffic is about Ron Paul. It's been like that all day.

79 Mike C.  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:04:42pm

I tend to have rather strict constitutionalist tendencies myself. But I tell you here and now, I have a better chance of being the next POTUS than Paul does. At least I haven't gone on TV and made a complete ass of myself. Yet.

80 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:05:18pm

alex jones thats like deep 911 truther territory wonder if he believes in hollow earth stuff

81 Aussie Infidel  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:05:52pm

Ahhh! I know that you all read typo! :)

82 Insert Clever Name Here  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:05:57pm

#58 Balishak
~~~
Very funny! I love it.

83 kevinmumaw  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:06:21pm

#43 Kilgore Trout

Saddam was not manufacturing his own stuff...not then. He got the vast majority of it from a UAE firm located in Singapore, Netherlands, Egypt, India, and West Germany. Only the wierdo left continue to claim the USA were the sole supplier of weapons to Hussein. We armed them during their fight with Iraq, as did other countries, most notably the French. But then again, the wierdo left (and their allies in the racist right) hates this country. They just won't leave because they know they have it good here.

Charles, how's about a poll where we can vote for who Ron Paul'd VP should be? I am thinking Rosie O'Donnell, maybe Michael Moore, or Sean Penn?

84 lowandslow  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:07:00pm

#61 PrimePowerPro
It's what Charles is listening to.

85 the_flying_pig  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:07:06pm

To The Other Les

So are you a reformed or neo-Libertarian?

:P

86 wvobiwan  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:07:08pm

I wouldn't pin too much blame on the Ron Paul crowd, it's likely leftists spamming on behalf of him. They're pretty good and well organized about it. Paul's prbbably a leftist plant to begin with.

It's safe to ignore him.

87 The Other Les  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:07:13pm

# 63 Lucius Septimius

# 53 Underzog

the Libertarians have a special hatred for Israel and want it destroyed.

?
Elaborate


Basically, most Libertarians buy into the notion that the Palestinians are the rightful owners of Palestine and that the Zionists are evil violent aggressors.

This allows them to pretend to be morally superior.

88 Mike C.  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:07:16pm

# 78 K T

At the end of the day, when all is said and done, insert cliche here, who really cares ?

I'd rather hear 3 wood expound on the Cubs. It has more meaning in the real world.

89 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:07:38pm

#71 PrimePowerPro
He haven't had many music threads lately but sometimes Charles streams a few songs for us. The Patty Griffin that he has on now is pretty damn good.

90 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:09:37pm

#88 Mike C.
We got mail!

91 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:09:50pm
92 Noam Sayin'  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:10:05pm

#57 I bet he does, Lucius.

#56 Pancake.

I brought two cases of Mezcal in here last weekend. Are we out already?

93 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:10:42pm

But there are Libertarians who get it.

94 Yank in the EU  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:11:39pm

#69 buzzsawmonkey

There is a certain impression of being in an alternate, surreal universe when a presidential candidate is giving what seems to be an undergrad-level presentation about how when you 'insert a force into the world, it generates its own forces, which is finally brought back against the original country.'. There may be a naivete or good intention of some sort there, but it is demented one.

95 Yank in the EU  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:12:12pm

#94 'a' demented, that is

96 Jimash  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:13:00pm

I llove that we don't sweat the typos.

97 Lucius Septimius  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:15:30pm

# 77 St. Pancake

Thanks -- the second link gets to the point (I always have a hard time following Ilana Mercer for some reason). Clash between irrational idealism and reality. Plus, I suspect, a big dose of "wouldn't it be better if it all just ... blew away?"

# 87 The Other Les

So, given that fact that early Zionist settlers actually bought the land they lived on, Libertarians don't believe in property rights? The argument makes no sense (of course, why am I expecting it to ...)

98 Lucius Septimius  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:18:28pm

# 93 Just a Grunt

And that's why Boortz has really parted ways with the Libertarians. He's taken a lot of grief from them for his position on the Iraq war and support for Israel. I know a number of Libertarians who refuse to claim him as one of their number any more.

99 George Ford  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:19:22pm

Is that a picture of Tiny Tim on the wall behind Justin?

100 The Other Les  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:20:52pm

# 85 the_flying_pig 5/16/2007 6:07:06 pm PDT

To The Other Les

So are you a reformed or neo-Libertarian?

:P


That's a good question.

I would be rejected by the Libertarians today because I do believe that a declaration of intent to inflict harm on someone is sufficient grounds to strike first.

Whereas a strict Libertarian would ignore the declaration of intent and morally condemn the premptive strike to protect myself or others.

From what I have observed whem I was an active member, I think that Libertarians (myself included at the time) have a psychological need to feel that they are the good guys, and that they need acknowledgement from others that they are the good guys.

101 PrimePowerPro  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:21:33pm

#84 Low and slow

Oh. Thanks.

BTW, are you a pilot or a fast car driver?

102 UnderZog  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:21:37pm

As I read a lot of Objectivism, I also read a bit of Libertarianism. 'Reason' Magazine used to have someone named Steven Birmingham as manager of their brickbrats section and he used to blast Israel regularly. 'Reason' Magazine started playing down these crazies when an Objectivist named Peter Schwartz blasted Libertarianiam in his famous pamphlet, 'Libertarianism, a perversion of Liberty.' He quoted Libertarian publications during the 80s Lebanon war, describing Israel as a Nazi regime and praising those pretend people, the Palestinians as the "obvious choice for property rights and justice for the Palestinian people" (I'm quoting from memory, but that is the gist of it). It's still so bad that a Libertarian I don't like, Illana Mercer, published some articles pointing out that Libertarians loathe Israel. Neal Boortz is a heroic and lonely exception as regards the Israel hating character of the Libertarians.

Anticipating a question like this, I also found these comments about Dr. Ron Paul: [Link: www.freerepublic.com...] (excerpted comments section)
>>>>>Since we are quoting Democrat party supporters (Andrew voted for Kerry), here's something I found from the National Jewish Democrats:

Not only did Paul vote against the House Israel Resolution on July 20th, in his speech on the House Floor, he said:
I rise in opposition to this resolution, which I sincerely believe will do more harm than good... It is very clear, reading this resolution objectively, that all the terrorists are on one side and all the victims and the innocents are on the other side. I find this unfair, particularly considering the significantly higher number of civilian casualties among Lebanese civilians. I would rather advocate neutrality rather than picking sides, which is what this resolution does.

Yes, Mr. Paul, the resolution does take sides. It takes the side of peace and freedom over terrorist regimes. That's a problem for you?

This wasn't the first time Paul stood solo on a nay vote for pro-Israel legislation.

In 1997, the Jewish Herald-Voice and the Congressional Quarterly wrote:

Showing a complete disregard for families victimized by the recent terrorist attack in Israel, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) was the only congressman to oppose an otherwise unanimous resolution to condemn two terrorist bombings. Paul was the lone dissenter when the House of Representatives adopted a resolution to condemn the tragic bombing that killed 13 people and wounded 170 others in Israel.

Additionally, Paul once suggested in a political newsletter that the Israeli government was one of the most "evil lobbying groups in Washington" (Houston Chronicle, 2/23/97).

In a fundraising letter in 1996, Paul wrote: "It's time that Israel stopped running American foreign policy and draining American taxpayers' wallets." When groups protested to the Republican leadership that Paul was being assigned to the international affairs committee, Paul blamed the Israeli government for the loss of his promised seat.

103 UnderZog  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:23:00pm

Here's the link to Illana Mercer's comments about 'Libertarians who loathe Israel': [Link: www.wnd.com...]

"There's no need to fear; Underzog is here!"

104 lowandslow  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:27:29pm

#101 PrimePowerPro
You're welcome. Pilot.

105 AmzngSpidey  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:29:07pm

A ronpaul spammer hijacked this entry on digg.

106 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:29:58pm

First I became a Christian without a church, used to be Episcopal, and now it looks like I am a voter without a party, used to be Republican. In both cases they left me I didn't leave them.
My only real contact with Libertarians was Boortz but now hearing he is the exception not the rule leaves me crestfallen.
Talk about being abandoned along the side of the road.

107 Jon Carry  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:31:35pm

Ron Paul: We deserved it.
9-11 Truthers: We deserved it.

108 Edouard  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:31:53pm

Although most sane people remain largely unaware of who he is, rest assured that Alex Jones is a celebrity among those who believe that the Bush Family's detonation squad wired up the Twin Towers in order for Chimpy McHallibush to begin enslaving the planet.

He's a real piece of work, this one, a Full Professor of Historical Re-Invention and Distinguished Chair of Conspiracy Detection at Space Cadet University. Professor Jones has every single answer about 9/11, believe me; he gains credence with the Truther nutters for claiming that he predicted 9/11 a few months before it happened.

Jones ranks right up there in my estimation with David Icke as far as global-conspiracy wackjobs go.

Nice crowd, indeed, for Ron Paul to hang with.

109 Thanos  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:31:56pm

In the fight for the heart of the Libertarian party the libtards and puritanical objectivists took over long ago. The puritanical objectivists are so busy defining things that in effect the libtards run the party. That's why I left and went Republican in the 80's.

110 abolitionist  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:32:41pm

#87 The Other Les

Basically, most Libertarians buy into the notion that the Palestinians are the rightful owners of Palestine and that the Zionists are evil violent aggressors.

And they'd stay bought, even if the devil himself testified that Jews paid for their land. Oh wait, he did:
Evidence of Haj Amin al-Husseini Before the Royal Commission in 1937 stating Jewish land was legally purchased from Arabs
More here.

111 brickthruplateglasswindow  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:35:35pm
#106 Just_A_Grunt
Talk about being abandoned along the side of the road.

Reading your comment briefly turned my monitor into a mirror.

112 hous bin pharteen  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:41:36pm

Good ol' Mark Levin made a good point tonight.

This guy has been in congress since the 70's and has done absolutely nothing. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Zero.

This makes him presidential timber?

30 years and hardly anyone has ever heard of him.
Was he like a custodian or something and since he was there so long they made him an honorary congressman?

113 NoSubmission  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:49:59pm

Hey you two, get a room!

114 FrogMarch  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:50:01pm

Is Alex jones related to Jim Jones?

koolAid Master! Drink and you shall be pure!

115 FrogMarch  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:51:47pm

112
Hillary hasn't accomplished anything either.

But she's a woman so--- the liberal media will fawn and pimp. Pimp and fawn.

116 NoSubmission  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:52:03pm

99 George Ford

Is that a picture of Tiny Tim on the wall behind Justin?


Yes, it is! LMAO!

Just tiptoe through the truthers,
with MeeeEEE~~~

117 Mich-again  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:55:55pm

Overall, thats a pretty crappy rant-mail. A meandering river of pure idiocy. Now if thats just a parody, its pretty funny.

118 rorschach  Wed, May 16, 2007 6:56:06pm

Paul's supporters remind me of the muslim voters in France...

"Of course we will support the democratic process. But if it doesn't go our way, we will riot and break things until you submit."

119 hous bin pharteen  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:00:54pm

#115 frogmarch

True. But Rue Paul has a good 20+ years on her in the congress.

Hilary on the other hand is the model candidate of liberals.

Pretends to be her own woman while using marriage to advance her career and social status while at the same time putting up with her husbands’ bad behavior in order to also play the victim and get pity and sympathy.
She is the perfect liberal wife.

120 Dr. Stu  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:05:02pm

Actually Alex Jones is a frequent guest of the midnight UFO radio show "Coast to Coast AM", and the host of Coast, George Noory is trying to book Ron Paul as a guest to discuss how he is not being covered by the media despite his success in these post-debate internet polls!

121 Caliphornian  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:07:00pm

Ron Paul is just the spiritual successor to Lyndon LaDouche. Says most of the same things. Makes just as little sense. Belongs in the nearest available looney bin with most of his followers.


C

122 FrogMarch  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:13:10pm

108 Edouard

From your link to wiki...


At the heart of Icke's theories is the view that the world is ruled by a secret group called the "Global Elite" or "Illuminati," which he has linked to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, an anti-Semitic hoax.[3][4] In 1999, he published The Biggest Secret, in which he wrote that the Illuminati are a race of reptilian humanoids known as the Babylonian Brotherhood, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie. [3][5]


Oh no! He's on to us!

123 FrogMarch  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:13:53pm

119 hous...

True!

124 The Other Les  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:16:10pm

# 122 FrogMarch

What! Queen Elizabeth is one of us?

125 Hermann Minkowski  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:20:39pm
120 Dr. Stu

despite his success in these post-debate internet polls!

Internet polls favor Ron Paul only because Democrats vote for him...

126 FrogMarch  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:22:13pm

124 The other les


and Kris Kristofferson... and Boxcar Willie!

I'm so excited!

127 Edouard  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:26:14pm

122 FrogMarch

Yep, it's terrifying what David Icke knows about us reptilians.

Why, my old buddy Kris Kristofferson and I were chatting about it just the other day, that it's a good thing David Icke doesn't have, like, an MSNBC show, or we'd be in DEEP bayou-swamp guano.

I bet even an esteemed conspiracy scientist like Alex Jones himself isn't aware of the insidious and wide-ranging global terror legacy of Boxcar Willie. But then again, a guy like Alex Jones, I wouldn't put it past him.

/snap snap go my reptilian jaws

128 Edouard  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:32:50pm

A MUST-OWN ALBUM for all self-respecting lizardoids: King of the Road by Boxcar Willie

Boxcar Willie's knowing grin on the cover of this album is the stuff of legend; heaven knows what dark secrets that grin conceals. His aw-shucks hobo persona, also, was the perfect cover for his activities as I'm sure many of you fellow reptilians are well aware.

129 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:35:32pm

Hey Alex,

Shut up before the black helicopters come to get you.

130 Ward Cleaver  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:38:14pm

#128 Edouard

I used to work with a woman whose husband was Boxcar Willie's cousin. Also, her son grew up with Jimmie and Stevie Ray Vaughn. Stevie was the kid brother that tagged along with the big kids.

131 Edouard  Wed, May 16, 2007 7:45:10pm

130 Ward -- That is cool!

So I guess Stevie Ray was a reptilian too. Now that I didn't know! But I find it very cool indeed.

Funny how the conspiracy web widens, the more you explore it and put it out there. Call it Six Degrees of Boxcar Willie.

132 tronman  Wed, May 16, 2007 8:04:20pm

What a bunch of losers! They claim that there were no internet votes on a text message poll, well...I worked in mobile communications for years, and if you don't know, anyone with a computer can send a text message to any number capable of receiving it. This whole thing has me wondering...it's obvious conservatives will never go for Paul, is it the libs are hell bent on trying to influence our primary to try and get him the nod? I could see that as then it wouldn't really matter if the next POTUS was R or D...either way they'd be friggen insane leftists.

133 T. Jefferson  Wed, May 16, 2007 8:27:41pm

Pentagon Offers Reward for Missing Soldiers

The Pentagon is offering a $200,000 reward for information leading to the whereabouts of three soldiers missing since Saturday and presumed abducted...

Unaccounted for are Schober; Pfc. Joseph J. Anzack Jr., 20, of Torrance, California; Pvt. Byron W. Fouty, 19, of Waterford, Michigan and Spc. Alex R. Jimenez, 25, of Lawrence, Massachusetts. Three of the dead American soldiers have been identified and the fourth, presumed to be one of the above named soldiers was so badly burned he could not be immediately identified...

According to CNN, the military has dropped about 150,000 fliers with an tip line and reward information over the region of the attack. The reward also applies to information on the identities of the kidnappers. The U.S. has questioned about 600 individuals and detained 11. Two of the detained claim involvement on the abduction.

134 Jheka  Wed, May 16, 2007 8:30:02pm

Oh, please.

Who's voting for Ron Paul?

Take a wild guess.

135 Athos  Wed, May 16, 2007 8:44:31pm
Ron Paul is just the spiritual successor to Lyndon LaDouche.

They do seem to collect the same flavors of nitwits, idiotarians, and rabid barking moonbats.

136 Sol Roth  Wed, May 16, 2007 8:48:37pm
#108 Edouard 5/16/2007 6:31:53 pm PDT

I've been listening to Alex Jones infrequently since he got fired from KLBJ or KJFK in Austin in the early 90's. He would rant about how the "Fema" boxes would randomly takeover the radio station to scare the hell out of people for psychological conditioning to accept internment in the giant concentration camps being secretly built.

He's had his website and put out a series of very low quality videos along with a shortwave broadcast since then.

He really believes what he says and that belief is infectious to some people.

However, since his stock-in-trade is Conspiracy, everything has to be a conspiracy. From "Building 7" to the fluoride in toothpaste and public drinking water being a "K Agent" to Bohemian Grove and the Illuminati the shit never stops. The last time I listened he just sounded like a burned out loser in need of some serious psychiatric help.

Then again, blood drinking lizards from Planet Nine probably just beamed that thought to the brainchip that controls the homunculus implanted by the Government in my sinus cavity.

/oooh, woooh, oooh.


/seriously Alex, if you are reading this, it's time to fall back on Pentecostal ministry. Dude, you can't even pay your shortwave bill.

137 Jono  Wed, May 16, 2007 9:46:05pm

Have we had emough Ron Paul bashing yet ?

He put his foot in his mouth, big deal. Its been clear for a long time that he is a strict non-interventionist.

Why are people so ignorant as to suggest that the Dems would support him ? He is total anathema to socialists.

He would dismantle social security, the IRS and slash the size and scope of government.

138 insomni  Wed, May 16, 2007 10:07:07pm

The LiveLeak video is also on YouTube, where I've had some fun in the comments. 3 of mine were deleted by the guy pictured at the beginning of the video. The comments were a quote from Eject Eject Eject ripping the controlled demolition theory truthers like to spout. While this guy questioned how WTC 7 could have collapsed on its own, he said because he never directly mentioned controlled demolition my comments were off-topic. Riiight. Something tells me the quote was making too much sense for his truther brain to handle.

139 bubbasbbq  Thu, May 17, 2007 2:14:04am

Just goes to prove that moonbats live on the right side of the aisle as well. Unlike the left, though, I refuse to enable them and let them take over the party of Reagan.

140 Eri  Thu, May 17, 2007 3:47:10am

Charles,

Why not just make polls for registered users only?

I personally voted for Paul as the winner of the first debate and it was honestly because I thought he won. (Not saying I support his bid, just saying he won the first debate.)

I hate to see the polls flawed in their entirety now because one person isn't even on there.

141 Nexus  Thu, May 17, 2007 5:39:56am

There were 2 million GOP viewers watching that debate. If Dr Paul won, then that means many of those 2 million were nodding their collective heads in approval when they heard Dr Paul talk of 911. Somehow I doubt the reception was that positive. He did manage to stir up debate and have his name talked about in mainstream GOP circles, so in that sense he did win. But unless he sees a significant increase in his poll numbers and campain contributions next week I think I can safely say he lost.

142 McNug  Thu, May 17, 2007 6:03:23am

Ron Paul is doing an excellent job of destroying the credibility of the Libertarian wing of the republican party.

Where is Barry Goldwater when we need him?

143 Pullus Iulius  Thu, May 17, 2007 7:22:37am

Mister Paul, if ten years of American bombing is sufficient justification for 9/11. then why weren't the hijackers named George, Miklos and Stan, and why didn't they come from Belgrade, Serbia?

144 Carolina Girl  Thu, May 17, 2007 7:59:07am

#55 Maui Girl

Who the hell is Ron Paul? :0

I don't know. But his wife makes really, really good fish sticks.

145 Carolina Girl  Thu, May 17, 2007 8:01:56am

#122 FrogMarch

The Biggest Secret, in which he wrote that the Illuminati are a race of reptilian humanoids known as the Babylonian Brotherhood, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie. [3][5]

Oh dear...they're more than on to us...this whole theory was featured in a CSI episode two weeks ago. Now GRISSOM is coming for us.

146 hous bin pharteen  Thu, May 17, 2007 3:34:58pm

#137 jono

He would dismantle social security, the IRS and slash the size and scope of government.


Uhmmm.
Yeah.
And I got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
Been in congress since 1976.
1976.
Not 2006
Not 1996
Not 1986
But 1976.

And he has done what exactly?
So we make him president for 34 years and see what he does?
Hate to bust your bubble, but he is a career bureaucrat. Nothing more.
He is living off the "big government" he says he opposes.


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