premiere

Did the AP pull it's head out of it's ass?

Hey Charles, just give them a chance to rewrite the headline, so that it makes Bush look bad.

But I was told Iraq was a quagmire.

/sarc

Does the headline prove that AP knew that AQ was there all along?

Members of al-Qaida, who consider the district part of their so-called Islamic State of Iraq

How can AP use such hurtful, islamophobic rhetoric? They should apologize to AQ immediately!

Every Iraqi who loves their country and wants to live in peace should own a gun or two. When the head choppers show up in their neighborhood, shoot the bastards. Everyone has to chip in and help bring peace to Iraq.

...the councilman said the al-Qaida leader in the Amariyah district, known as Haji Hameed, was killed and 45 other fighters were detained.

Good...

Stories like this give me hope that things might turn out okay in Iraq. Does anybody really think that the Iraqis want to live under AQ?

Read stuff like Michael Yon's latest post, and you'll see that they don't:

Over time, AQI provided ample demonstrations of their ruthless and reckless abuses of power over civilians, shooting people for using the Internet, or watching television, or other “moral transgressions” such as smoking in public. AQI’s claim of fundamentalist piety proved to be a thin veneer that was quickly eroded by blatant drug, alcohol and prostitute use. The people of Anbar rejected AQI, but AQI was still strong and well-armed, so rejection was only a first step.

You're welcome.

Fly my pretty! Fly!

Can we name this porker of flight?

Suggestions?

I hope someone gets a screenshot. That headline won't last long. Wanna bet?

I think we need to redeploy all of these Iraqi's to Okinawa

PS: for dessert ( from hotair ) a priceless laura ingraham rant on Bush and his Amnasty bill

[Link: hotair.com...]

It's about time the Iraqis got physical with the homicidal freaks in their midst. American patience with them is wearing thin.

WAIT A SEC!

Al Qaeda is in Iraq? Who knew?

/most AP readers

#13 How about the Porker of Peace (POP)?

The headline will be changed in hours to read "Iraqis mysteriously begin turning on their al-Qaida allies. Change attributed to Pelosi's visit to Syria."

#14 insert

I agree. I've got some alternative headlines in mind.

U.S. Military Thwarts Populist Leadership Process

American Soldiers Kill Local Leader

America Sucks

While the headline sounds good, well, at least better than usual, if you read the whole article, they get in quite a lot of US military bashing...how the helicoptor crash killed a 13 year old boy, how many soldiers died in May, and much more. Very negative.

Same ole, same ole. More of a flying piglet moment at best.

/still don't like or trust the AP

The only way the USA can be beaten by a bunch of murderous Iraqi thugs is if it gives up.

Conversely, the USA will "win" this war when (and only when) the positive developments ultimately mobilize favorable public opinion.

#15 Shug
~~~
Thanks for the Laura Ingraham link. They changed the radio schedule around and I never get to hear her any more.

#15 shug

PS: for dessert ( from hotair ) a priceless laura ingraham rant on Bush and his Amnasty bill

Bush seems determined to see if he can drive his poll numbers down to zero, by pissing off the only people who have supported him. Such a waste.

#20 squarepeg

Good work.

3 myself

That's not sarcasm- you were told Iraq was a quagmire!

PIMF- or #4

Inevitably, al-Qaeda types wear out their welcome wherever they go. They roll in and take more than full advantage of local traditions regarding treatment of guests. After milking their hosts as hard as they can, they start acting like they own the place. The locals have all they can stands, and they can't stands no more.

Also, they are pretty attuned to which way the wind blows and know that there is always a time to roll the welcome mat back up. Plus, they start to see that the quickest way to get the occupiers to leave might be to get rid of the baddest interlopers among them.

Funny how AQ's expel-the-meddlesome-outsiders thing comes back around to bite them.

check the blog of 'iraqthemodel.blogspot.com'. They have a different opinion regarding this battle.

The War on Terror is in Afganistan, not Iraq.

Someone needs to get the AP the memo.

But I thought WE were killing the Iraqis.

Iraqi Violence Rages On -- US Troops Caught In The Middle
"Insurrgents" Battle "Millitants" As US Looks On

It is only a matter of time before this guy is fired and the AP editor restores order

Just a suggestion - turn the 45 captured over to the villagers somewhere in the outskirts and walk away. Have a drone observe what happens as a test of sincerity. If they are sincere, I understand Iraqi "street justice" can be a BITCH!

-S-

29 rqballjohn

check the blog of 'iraqthemodel.blogspot.com'. They have a different opinion regarding this battle.

roger that. We've got a pig cleared for landing on runway two-niner...

Omar of ITM has more Red on Red in Amiriyah

Proposed revised AP headline:

US forces fire on Iraq wedding party, killing dozens

(Hey, I'm sure they can find some evidence of a wedding party somewhere)

#29 rqballjohn

check the blog of 'iraqthemodel.blogspot.com'. They have a different opinion regarding this battle.

They come right out and say the AP got it wrong. And that, my friends, is hardly pig worthy. How about a flying weasel?

Over time, AQI provided ample demonstrations of their ruthless and reckless abuses of power shooting people for using the Internet, or watching television, or other “moral transgressions” such as smoking in public.

@Ward,
I thought smokers could be shot in America,
Does anyone know when the season opens?

President Hillary says her new Share the Wealth and Responsibility's in America program will be a big hit with the middle and poor people.

All you upper crust and filthy rich will have to continue working your ass off and give us more monies. We need to vote for her, because in 2009 I wont have to buy any more lottery tickets.
The Hillary government lottery will pay all my bills and entertainment, Happy days are here again!
Uncle Bob has struck a new vein.
Hillary 2008

Iraq the Model says the AP got this one wrong; and that’s even more flying pig-worthy, because normally, all their errors are of the anti-US variety.

Charles, if the AP admits they were wrong that would be big pig worthy.

But what this most likely means is that they'll quietly learn from their mistake and go back to what they do best -- America bashing.

...preventing students from attending final exams, shooting randomly and forcing residents to stay in their homes...

Not exactly the sort of behavior likely to prolong one's welcome.

#21 NiceLass -

Same ole, same ole. More of a flying piglet moment at best.

Agreed; the pig scampers and jumps, but remains grounded by a tremendous amount of baggage.

/still don't like or trust the AP

That too! A(wt)P hasn't shown much interest in earning the trust of its audience. Their slant is obvious and consistent

The faster the mnf-Iraq can knock off the leaders of these cells the better.I do not think that they can replace these pukes as fast as the msm would have us believe.It is a war of attrition and though they have many followers,leaders with brains and operational skills are harder to come by.

#41 bulwrk

Somebody needs to knock off al-Sadr. Bush has shown he doesn't have the stones to do it.

That's what we need: Iraqis that just want to get on with their lives, and realize that getting rid of Al-Qaida is the first step.
Hell, in that respect, they're smarter than the average Democrat.

Could this actually be a case in point for Jack Savage's post on RedState?

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

OT

The Butchers, the Baker and the Dread Malaise Maker, pushing Jews into the sea...

What the hell is A&P doing in the news business anyway? Just because they put together a grocery ad every week, does that qualify them to report the news? I say let them stick to doing clean-ups on isle 9 , peeling cabbage leaves, and stocking the shelves and let the professionals report the news.

Maybe our MSM has ignored the al Queda torture manuals released by the military but I wonder.
Could it be they were well documented in the Iraqi MSM?
Could give the Iraqi's a stronger reason to resist the islamofaciasts

Members of al-Qaida, who consider the district part of their so-called Islamic State of Iraq, were preventing students from attending final exams

/Freedom Fighters save students from finals despite U.S. military

OT, just something very noteworthy from the Telephone Apartheid thread on DKos: comment by "dijelo":

Thank You (7+ / 0-)

for again verifying the real goal of anti-"Zionists":

Former South African President Hendrick Verwoerd already understood in 1961 that, "Israel, like South Africa, is an apartheid regime." -Rand Daily Mail, Nov. 23, 1961.

In 1961, Israel did not occupy the West Bank or Gaza.

That means that if the Israelis were to vacate all of the West Bank and Gaza, in your view it would STILL be an apartheid state.

And, of course, all apartheid states must be eradicated, right?

It is important that enemies of Israel never be muzzled or shouted down. The more you express yourselves the clearer your true intentions become.

by dijelo on Thu May 31, 2007 at 09:00:08 AM PDT

Amen, brother! Though, following that comment, you'd better watch out that you aren't muzzled or shouted down.

Szplitz on szplug! Time for a plug!

Livin' in a Happy (Virtual) Nation

in which I show the folly of the nation-oriented view of the Middle East.

#45 BabbaZee

Damn, it's going to take me years to read all the interesting stories on your Blog!

/nice work by the way...

#51 Odinist
Thanks Odinist.

I know it's heavy but time is tight and we need to know MUCH

42 ward cleaver

Somebody needs to knock off al-Sadr. Bush has shown he doesn't have the stones to do it.

I agree! bush and our boys should of killed that guy 4+ years ago. bush has us in another war with no intention of winning. Hell, he hasn't even defined the enemy yet. just saying...

#45 BabbaZee

The Butchers, the Baker and the Dread Malaise Maker, pushing Jews into the sea...

And the cow jumped over the moon...

(Oops, wrong subject!)

/moon -> moonbat; back on topic now?

#42/Ward Cleaver

True enough, but al-Sadr is more politician then combat leader.Shorten the life exspectancy of his operations people he becomes just a figure head.

What do y'all expect from them?

There is only so many talking points they can get from their Taliban buddies...wash feet rinse repeat!

Unfortunately Wolverine U is capitulating submitting.

Shame the big house will fall soon.

CAIR will file suit against the A.P. in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

If you didn't care what happened to me,
And I didn't care for you
We would zig zag our way through the boredom and pain
Occasionally glancing up through the rain
Wondering which of the buggers to blame
And watching for pigs on the wing.

-Pink Floyd

You mean Iraq has real schools? Where did they come from?

#55 bulwrk

True enough, but al-Sadr is more politician then combat leader.Shorten the life exspectancy of his operations people he becomes just a figure head.

al-Sadr simply needs to be taken out, as well as his operations people.

SINGLING ISRAEL OUT FOR A BOYCOTT?

It is not just for U.K."intellectuals" anymore!

#15 Shug
~~~
Thanks for the Laura Ingraham link.

DITTO!

Opp's typo #55

Sure enough- they've changedthe headline-

Sunnis revolt against al-Qaida

This way sounds less Iraqi, more sectarian.

Zionist Youngster, ;~}

WLGF only has an Equinox, no moons today

#64 Sharmuta

Sure enough- they've changedthe headline-

Sunnis revolt against al-Qaida

This way sounds less Iraqi, more sectarian.

Murtha, Pelosi, Clinton, Obama, etc, must have got word to the A.P., that their previous headline was inappropriate.

Speaking of Flying Swine, how about that TB Jack fellow?

OT

Hola, Jorge Arbusto y los RINOs:
RNC fires phone solicitors

There has been a sharp decline in contributions from RNC phone solicitations, another fired staffer said, reporting that many former donors flatly refuse to give more money to the national party if Mr. Bush and the Senate Republicans insist on supporting what these angry contributors call "amnesty" for illegal aliens.
"Everyone donor in 50 states we reached has been angry, especially in the last month and a half, and for 99 percent of them immigration is the No. 1 issue," said the former employee.

Good-bye America ... you are not the country that I love. I finally realized no matter how much I sacrifice, I can't make you be that country unless you want it.

It's up to you now.

Almost brings a tear to my I.

#65 BabbaZee

"When the mooon[bat] is in the Seventh House..."

Stoopid hippy song. Because hippies are stoopid. Stoopid, stoopid, stoopid. And stoned. And smelly. For all their idolization of Native American culture, it seems the only tribe they've managed to set up is the Smelihipi Tribe.

#60 republic

I agree,but why make him a martyr now? Undermine his power make him look ineffectual against the yankee devil,and let his own people off him.

#71 ZionistYoungster

Stoopid hippy song. Because hippies are stoopid. Stoopid, stoopid, stoopid. And stoned. And smelly. For all their idolization of Native American culture, it seems the only tribe they've managed to set up is the Smelihipi Tribe.

The newest al-qaeda spokesperson, is a California hippie.

I want him found, and charged with treason, and when found guilty, I want him hung in public in America.

good job lil piggie...fly fly fly, up up in the sky...we don't see you very often, durn it.

If you read Michael Yon's posts from the town of Hit, you read that a town that was riven with bullets is now prettyu peaceful and the kids are playing and business being done.

Just maybe the Iraqis are getting sick of the lack of business environment and being hounded by these a-holes and their family being zonked.

Sorry to cross post but you have to watch this video:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Add to this the WOT. Australia and the Philipines signs agreement to hunt down Muslim fanatics coming out of indonesia

[Link: cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com...]

#72 bulwrk

I agree,but why make him a martyr now? Undermine his power make him look ineffectual against the yankee devil,and let his own people off him.

I don't recognize anything, regarding islam anyway, about "martyrdom".

Any and every islamofascist who is planning on killing Americans, as al-Sadr is and has done, needs to be killed, now, period.

The islamoc version of "martyrdom", is a straight ticket to Hell.

If anyone kills and American, they need to be taken out, collateral damage included.

I don't care.

Otherwise, we're just playing a never ending game, in which, in the modern age, America loses.

...earthquake in Tokyo (or nearby). Not so bad though...

#73 republic

You mean Adam G-ddamned, uh, I mean, Gadahn, right? He's such a classic case of hippy-turned-jihadi that I devoted a post to him in November last year: "...With Thousands of Fremen Warriors"

#76 Bill Amos

Add to this the WOT. Australia and the Philipines signs agreement to hunt down Muslim fanatics coming out of indonesia

If they actually do it, that is outstanding news.

It's the only solution.

Is someone hacking LGF?

I see thong underwear in his Amazon sidebar...

#58. I love that album! Way underrated IMHO.

#79 ZionistYoungster

#73 republic

You mean Adam G-ddamned, uh, I mean, Gadahn, right? He's such a classic case of hippy-turned-jihadi that I devoted a post to him in November last year: "...With Thousands of Fremen Warriors"

He needs his life ended in the American public view.

A message needs to be sent to these anti-American leftist kooks.

He is a confirmed leftist kook, even though he has sworn his allegience to islam.

I want him strung up in public.

If I were his parents, I would be all over the msm, asking for the same, because if one of my kids ever did this, that is what I would want done.

If the government didn't do it, I would myself, as a parent.

Many people think this is all a game.

It is the very survival, or not, of America, the U.S. Constitution, and our way of prosperous life.

Does anyone else see the breast implants in and underwear in the Amazon sidebar on the right?

That James Baker stuff is Bullshit.
You can accuse me of being lowbrow.
are you buying that BAbba ?
I don't see it.

#55 bulwrk

Three years ago we had the chance to take out al-Sadr and his command, and we backed off, because we didn't want to blow up a mosque that Saddam himself had destroyed and rebuilt after the Gulf War.

#70 solomonpanting

As much as it pains me to admit it, I agree w/ several of her points about blind loyalty, corrupt self servign pols, etc.

Still think she's barking batty on the war thing, natually.

Nice we won't have to put up w/ her all over the place like OJ anymore.

look like books to me.

Is anyone else seeing these Amazon links in the right hand sidebar?

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

#83 republic

He is a confirmed leftist kook, even though he has sworn his allegience to islam.

Not as contradictory as it sounds at first: see Gates of Vienna's Putting the Pieces Together for a great summary of how it works.

#83 republic

If the government didn't do it, I would myself, as a parent.

"Think of it as a retroactive abortion"

#64 Sharmuta

Ahhh, but AQ is Sunni. That makes it sounds less sectarian. But then, the average American, along with House Intelligence Committee chairman Silvestre Reyes don't know which group is Sunni and which is Shiite, so...

You mean the book about how to draw nekkid wimmin? I've been seeing that ad for awhile now.

#91 ZionistYoungster

Not as contradictory as it sounds at first: see Gates of Vienna's Putting the Pieces Together for a great summary of how it works.

Oh, I understand completely, the relationship with the islamofascists and the left.

Hillary, Kerry, Algore, Murtha, Pelosi, Edwards, et al, are all on the side of the islamofascist human butchers.

It would give them absolute power in America, until all of their backs were up against a wall, blindfolded, and then...

The left in America, are willing, just to gain absolute power for a brief moment, to sell all Americans out.

Speaking of the press, Taliban tries to shut up Pakistani press.
[Link: www.thepeninsulaqatar.com...]

#90 mrclark

No... Maybe it's one of those cookie things- you know, adding items of interest based on search patterns...

Or maybe, it's some grand conspiracy to make you click on the links...

Or maybe you're just seeing things...

Or, none of the above...

Hope that helped!

Hey Y'all - is anyone else getting pop-ups out here (or in my case, notification that a pop-up has been blocked)? Don't remember that ever happening before on LGF.

#92 Pete(Detroit)

"Think of it as a retroactive abortion"

I love my kids, but if any of them pulled the stunt that this traitorous son of a bitch has done, they'd need to go.

I might ball my eyes out as the noose was put around their neck, but it would need to be done, and does need to be done.

People don't realize what is at stake here.

Our way of life, our Constitution, America The Beautiful.

Most people are "too busy" to even grasp what is going on.

Re: #97 Odinist

*cough*

The ad just changed from anti-Jihadi books to panties, trannies, butts, and boobs...

*cough*

/comment retracted...

flying pigs...never mind

flying suicide bombers!

[Link: www.theasiannews.co.uk...]

note the description ..."theasiannews.co.uk/news/s/228/228504_skydivin g_the_islamic_way"

Oh BAbba I am reading further now.
That Baker output IS bullshit.

#55/WardCleaver

Yea I like to see that ugly f**ks head on a stick as much as anybody. But as you pointed out the trigger didn"t get pulled.And I assume he's going to be a hard target to find now.

95 republic

The left in America, are willing, just to gain absolute power for a brief moment, to sell all Americans out.

Bush and bunch are no different. They all are selling us out. IMHO revolution?

93 Ward Cleaver

Ahhh, but AQ is Sunni. That makes it sounds less sectarian. But then, the average American, along with House Intelligence Committee chairman Silvestre Reyes don't know which group is Sunni and which is Shiite, so...

It fits better with the "Iraq is turning into a civil war" meme, which is akin to the "quagmire" meme, don't you think? "Iraq residents" just sounds so nationalistic and positive.

/Charles' link now refelects the new headline too

104 Missouriboy:

You say you want a...

106 wrath

I knew what you linked to, before I clicked it!
lol! great song.

#104 missouri boy

Bush and bunch are no different. They all are selling us out. IMHO revolution?

Nonesense!

Does President Bush have complete control over 98% of the msm, as the Democrats currently have?

A Dem in the WH, and the media will never, ever, utter a single word about violations.

They would break into your home if they didn't like you, and put you in confinement, and nobody, nobody would ever know.

Watch it happen, when Hillary is in the WH in 2009.

You can call me crazy, but I still believe that President Bush is the right person, for our times.

I disagree 100% with his immigration ideas, I disagree 100% with the US aid to Hamas, but people don't understand, what the times would be like with any of the various leftist kooks in the WH and control of the Congress.

It would be as bad as Venizuala is right now, and that is a fact.

Take your pick.

republic

ever heard of Fatah?

#110 akak

republic

ever heard of Fatah?

Yes, why do you ask?

Bush[The Globalist] Wants Greenhouse Gas Summit

108 republic

Watch it happen, when Hillary is in the WH in 2009.

The republicans have sold us out and they will be the reason if your prediction above comes true. I want my country back , just like you.
I fear we have gone past the no return point.
what say you?

MissouriBoy:

Oh yea?...how about THIS one...

114 wrath

Preach on,brother!

#112 Roger

Bush[The Globalist] Wants Greenhouse Gas Summit

This is getting ultra insane.

This is like deciding that we want all of the rivers that currently run south, to to run north.

Just so everyone knows, I will fight with my very life, against this nonesense.

I will in no way, ever, under any circumstances, adopt this idiotic idea, that I contribute, in ANY way, to the climate of the earth.

I will defend myself to the death, and if you don't believe me, just watch me.

I am sick of this shit!

Rioters asked for their story

snip

A group of academics are examining the violence which exploded in Oldham in May 2001 and linking with a French team examining the recent Paris race riots.

snip

Dr David Waddington, of Sheffield Hallam University, said gathering first hand accounts of the riots was essential to the project.

Dr Waddington, said: "In recent years, there has been a growing concern in society about the situation of young people in various ethnic minority communities in both sides of the Channel.

"By sharing our knowledge, the British experience can provide valuable information to the French and we can use their experiences to test and enhance our own theories and policy."

snip

Gangs of disgruntled Asian and white men took to the streets and hundreds of riot officers with dogs were drafted into the town.

[Link: www.theasiannews.co.uk...]

#112 Roger
I don't see reducing pollution as a bad thing.

ok to fund them? Republic?

missouri boy:

Oh I'm not done! This revolution will NOT be televised...

#109 buzzsawmonkey

I guess so!

I'd rather see something I might think about buying, though!

#113 missouri boy

I fear we have gone past the no return point.
what say you?

I still believe that there is hope, if the GOP can get someone like Thompson elected.

I am convinced, that if Thompson gets in, we will have years similar to the Reagan years.

We still can bide our time, but if people stay home, to teach the Republicans a lesson, we are all doomed.

Maybe it has to be this way, for end times events to happen, the way that they will, no matter what, but if I didn't believe in hope, still, I wouldn't even be on LGF making comments, I'd just be enjoying life, knowing that what is to come, has never happened in the history of America, yet.

#119 akak

ok to fund them? Republic?

It is 100% wrong to fund anyone who wants to kill Israeli's and American's, period, I don't care if it is this current Administration.

Fatah wants to kill Jews and Americans, so, NO, it is wrong to fund them.

#118 Killgore Trout

#112 Roger
I don't see reducing pollution as a bad thing.

It's not about reducing pollution Killgore!

It's about power and control!

If you think that man can alter the climate, I feel bad for you.

Man can't, in any way.

#123 republic

That is ~20 tomahawk missile; a much better investment.

#118 Killgore Trout

Then pay me your indulgences for your polutin' tootin' ways.

That's a great closing line at Iraq the Model:

One correction to the AP story, Hajj Hameed was the chief of the Sharia courts of al-Qaeda in Amiriyah, not the leader of the network. Only god knows how many innocent people were executed by orders from this terrorist. Whether killed by Baathists, fellow terrorists, good Iraqis or American troops….Good riddance!

This looks kind of like what we've been trying for, doesn't it? Iraqis, doubtless paid by us (ammo isn't free) fighting the gangsters.

Children, if there is to be victory in Iraq, this is what it's going to look like. Let us stop dreaming of parades in Paris.

# 123 Republic

Fatah wants to kill Jews and Americans, so, NO, it is wrong to fund them.

Absolutely -- we've been down this road before, and it's never paid off in the long run. Don't dance with the devil -- in that case "a kiss is NOT just a kiss."

Let's keep selling the Japanese scrap metal and oil so they won't attack Indonesia -- they promise they'll only use it to make hibachis!

I could go on, but Baby Girl is whining and climbing on me.

Side bar back to the familiar Osprey military hardware series, but there was some funky stuff over there for a short while.

#125 Roger

#123 republic

That is ~20 tomahawk missile; a much better investment.

I actually think, that a carpet bombing that lasted for several weeks, would at least stop the nonsense that is currently going on there.

There is no such people as "Palestinains", and there never will be a land called "Palestine".

I'm a bricklayer for God's sake, can't these elitist Harvard/Yale dumbasses ever grasp the solution?

ot:

Ron Paul kicks it with Truthers!

#118 Killgore Trout

Do you even have an idea why their called greenhouse gases?

Pssst, because they pump these gases into greenhouses because our future food loves it!

Wow, could it be the Iraqis - and the Sunnis! - are actually acting like Minute Men finally?

Wow. Did the CIA put something in the water? Maybe some LSD? Expanded their minds, or something?

Because it sure has taken fucking long enough.

Ah. And we see it's not true.

It's amazing how the longer this goes on, and the more the Global Eye is upon the country and region, and also looking over at countries like Venezuela, where all an obvious would-be dictator had to do was squeal "imperialism! imperialism!" in order to get into power and screw everyone who voted for him -

The more I see the absolute monotony and predictability of this behavior, the more I realize the British outlook of the 19th century was correct and Edward Said, among others, is wrong.

Hey man. A thing is either one thing or another; this is not an ideological principle, simply the principle of non-contradiction applied. Suck it up, loonies.

#119 akak

ok to fund them? Republic?

Out of curiousity, where did you come up with the question, for me, about Fatah?

I hated Arafish, and I hate any person who wants to do harm to Israel.

I have been strictly against the U.S. giving even a penny of "aid" to Abbas.

I'm just curious where you came up with that question for me.

120 wrath

This is too good! Keep it coming!

ps: where do you find this stuff?

#130 republic

They can't even grasp the effort and skill needed to stand up a well designed and durable brick wall.

They only go by the price it costs.

Progressives want the government to take over your health care when in reality they can't even measure pH properly while digging out a road bed. Sitting now for expensive years and they don't know what to do.

their=they're - just got to say it fast.

#128/MikeySDCA

Put the foil hat on again didn"t you.

republic 5/31/2007 4:01:15 pm PDT

#104 missouri boy

Bush and bunch are no different. They all are selling us out. IMHO revolution?

Nonesense!

Why the talk of cease fire with Iraqi militants today?

#132 Roger
Fill your greenhouse with methane and nitrous oxide and let me know how it works out.

By the way I think St. Pancake asked once if there was a book that really got the flavor of the people, and I think I found two great ones:

The Innocents Abroad, Mark Twain (1867)

and

The Pilgrimage to al-Mekkah and al-Madinah, Sir Richard F. Burton (1855, 3rd revised edition 1860s)

The latter is better, though more tediously written. But reading the Burton and then the Twain, two independent voices by men who cannot reasonably be called bigots, confirms what every lizard knows to be true. Which may not be necessary, but it's gratifying.

#140 Killgore Trout

That is not what they are talking about. C)₂

republic 5/31/2007 4:27:51 pm PDT

#119 akak

ok to fund them? Republic?

Out of curiousity, where did you come up with the question, for me, about Fatah?

I disagree 100% with the US aid to Hamas

#140 Killgore Trout

CO₂

#136 Roger

Progressives want the government to take over your health care when in reality they can't even measure pH properly while digging out a road bed. Sitting now for expensive years and they don't know what to do.

I live just fine, I don't want the governments help, with anything, other than protecting America, keeping the roads in good condition, protecting our borders, etc.

I've lived just fine, for quite some time, without government interference.

I hear what you are saying Roger, and I've always had the utmost respect for you here, I'm just a little frustrated.

#143 akak

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77 republic Yeah, Al Sadr is about 3 years past his expiration date. People have been saying the same thing about him the whole time too:

but if we kill him, don't we just make him a martyr?

Great, make him a martyr. All his wanna-be martyr friends will come out firing and we can give them their fondest wish too.

They won't be able to kidnap or kill any more of ours.

Out of curiousity, where did you come up with the question, for me, about Fatah?

you said

disagree 100% with the US aid to Hamas

#145 republic

Hey I'm there too. There is nothing more shaky than a second term President berating his/her base on almost a monthly basis. I hop we get through without too much damage.

'course if I can collect on Killgore's environmental sins then I won't care either. NO one talks about where the money will go.

Republic:

Not yet. Iraq deserves one last chance. But to make that chance even remotely viable, we'll have to take desperate measures. We need to fight. And accept the consequences.

The first thing we need to do is to kill Muqtada al-Sadr, who's now a greater threat to our strategic goals than Osama bin Laden.

We should've killed him in 2003, when he first embarked upon his murder campaign. But our leaders were afraid of provoking riots.

Back then, the tumult might've lasted a week. Now we'll face a serious uprising. So be it. When you put off paying war's price, you pay compound interest in blood.

We must kill - not capture - Muqtada, then kill every gunman who comes out in the streets to avenge him.

Our policy of all-carrots-no-sticks has failed miserably. We delivered Iraq to zealots, gangsters and terrorists. Now our only hope is to prove that we mean business - that the era of peace, love and wasting American lives is over.

And after we've killed Muqtada and destroyed his Mahdi Army, we need to go after the Sunni insurgents. If we can't leave a democracy behind, we should at least leave the corpses of our enemies.

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

It's a good column from 10/2006

#140 Killgore Trout

#132 Roger
Fill your greenhouse with methane and nitrous oxide and let me know how it works out.

The earths atmosphere isn't filled with methane and nitrous oxide, and there has never, even once, been any kind of actual facts to back up your theory.

So we're supposed to soak the world, $250 trillion on some kook scientists hunch?

This is unreal.

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling"

Chicken Little

#149 Roger
Huh, I thought they were talking about greenhouse gases.

#150 funky chicken

I agree

funky chicken 5/31/2007 4:40:09 pm PDT

Republic:

Not yet. Iraq deserves one last chance. But to make that chance even remotely viable, we'll have to take desperate measures. We need to fight. And accept the consequences.

how Wilsonian...one last chance for democracy

dadgummit Irax don't ya get it we elect soon

Republic

I actually like the way you think. I am with you concerning the government interfering with our lives. One has to wonder how America got as great as it did, before we had the government to "protect" us.

Can anyone really name one government agency , that works? I mean works better than free enterprize would?

#154 akak

dadgummit Irax don't ya get it we elect soon

Now I get it.

You're drunk!

:D

I must go for a ride in the convertable.

I'm going to leave some rubber on the road tonight, just for the global warming kooks.

Enjoy.

#138 bulwrk

Kind of you to accuse me of being a loony. Nice to be on such a polite and civilized site.

I sometimes feel that I am the only American not on the Federal payroll who is not a defeatist. The Dems want to lose. The types like you want Bush to fail, to vindicate it is not quite clear what.

I want our troops to win. I pray for victory. I want those lives not to have been lost in vain.

If this means I have put on a little foil hat, so be it. There was a time when rooting against out troops in a war was called treason.

#155 missouri boy

Republic

I actually like the way you think. I am with you concerning the government interfering with our lives. One has to wonder how America got as great as it did, before we had the government to "protect" us.

The Founders had it right, becaue they were all blessed by GOD, and it will not work any other way, than the way that it was laid out.

I'm willing to die, to try and protect that.

Doesn't something like 98% of the greenhouse gases occur naturally? So how the hell is putting a new tax on us , going to fix anything?

#151 republic
Sorry to break it to you but air pollution is a problem. You should visit L.A. if you don't believe me. I'm well aware that most of the global warming science is crap but I'd really like to see more conservatives adopt common sense on pollution and the environment.

#152 Killgore Trout

They call CO₂ a greenhouse gas and a pollutant. Btw, the gases you mentioned aren't bad at all and are probably already in greater concentrations in greenhouses than the small amounts in the upper atmosphere.

Saw something interesting called methane clathrates while searching They estimate ten trillion tons at the bottom of the ocean. Interesting.

#159 missouri boy

If you were on the receiving end you wouldn't have to work; you'd be on easy street just for not being productive. You'd feel fixed.

/All your carbon footprint are belong to us.

republic 5/31/2007 4:46:17 pm PDT

#154 akak

dadgummit Irax don't ya get it we elect soon

Now I get it.

You're drunk!

I wish!

Got to go. It has been fun . See ya Lizards...

#161 Roger
The brazilian rain forest is a huge source of methane as well.

The core of Bush's deal seems to be that China and India should also reduce their emissions. The EU plan is that only wealthy countries should. I don't think there's much to worry about, neither plan will be implemented.

#165 Killgore Trout

Yep, and don't forget the termites. They are 50 times in weight our number and they outproduce us alone.

The Chinese will just execute their regulator at some point just like they are getting ready to do to the head of their FDA. Yea, that'll improve health care and attract top notch talent!

#157/MikeySdca

Nice try I've seen your post,your a "I support the troops but I hate Bushes war" kinda guy.

Give the cat a big kiss for me.

#160 Killgore Trout

Sorry to break it to you but air pollution is a problem. You should visit L.A. if you don't believe me. I'm well aware that most of the global warming science is crap but I'd really like to see more conservatives adopt common sense on pollution and the environment.

Well said!

I don't agree with the global warming crowd, but c'mon, who wants to 'sh*t in their own kitchen', so to speak...?

#160 Killgore Trout

I should say I agree with #160 too. And continuing with the theme, there are smart, scientific ways to go about the care of the environment. The work on aluminum cans is a prime example; fantastic material science and engineering!

#160 Killgore Trout

Sorry to break it to you but air pollution is a problem. You should visit L.A.

I visit L.A. every day. The smog situation is ten times better then is was 20 years ago.

WASHINGTON - The U.S. military is working more aggressively to forge cease-fires with Iraqi militants and quell the violence around Baghdad, judging that 80 percent of enemy combatants are "reconcilable," a top U.S. commander said Thursday.

However, Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno

[Link: counterterrorismblog.org...]

And good business is recognizing if you have physical waste in any form you're losing value. All the gases chattered about by the moonbats are valuable gases.

Btw, scientists have bio-engineered green pigs. It might be possible to bio-engineer beef that doesn't fart?

//Although it would be slightly mean to take away one of their few life's pleasures.

I'm very hopeful about this Anbar awakening. If it works out, we may just win this war yet.

#170 DesertSage
I suspect things like emissions controls and unleaded gasoline might be responsible.
/environmentalist

Bloggers have been reporting on how AQ wets the bed where ever it chooses to sleep for months, it's about time the press noticed.

#170 DesertSage

I visit L.A. every day. The smog situation is ten times better then is was 20 years ago.

But there is still a 'smog situation'...? Better doesn't mean fixed...

[Link: www.iht.com...]

wow the Al Qaeder marine chief has them freaked out!

#167 bulwrk

For you and those who search my posts.

I was born in the US Navy. My father was an LTJG, my mother an Ensign when they met at the Line School in Newport, RI. They married. I was the result, in 1950.

I grew up in the Navy. There was this little thing called the Korean War. My father did not see me when I was two. He was elsewhere. People today complain about 6-month deployments. In those days, as in WW2 (Father was at Pearl Harbor) deployments had no announced end.

As a boy, growing up mostly in Navy surroundings, I always assumed I would serve in the military. That was what my family did. I have an ancestor who served in the American Revolution, another in the Confederate Army. I like to say that there have been two revolutions in this country: my family has been on the revolutionary side in both of them. We're batting 500.

I had a student deferment during the Vietnam War. For reasons too complicated to explain, I wanted to drop out of college and join the Army. Unfortunately, I'm very nearsighted and you couldn't then die for your country if you couldn't read the big E on the eye chart. Since I was trying to get a position as a computer programmer with ASA, that struck
me then and now as rather silly.

Maybe you can understand my attitude.

#176 Odinist

But there is still a 'smog situation'...? Better doesn't mean fixed...

Does 'fixed' mean no smog whatsoever? If so, that will never happen as long as we're using fossil fuel.
But there is a huge improvement over 20, 30, even 40 years ago.

#179 DesertSage

True... and I understand your point... I now live in a city that when I last visited, 25 years ago, my teachers told me not to wear anything light colored because of the pollution... Yes, it is much better now, but there are still areas where improvements can be made...

#155 missouri boy

Can anyone really name one government agency , that works? I mean works better than free enterprize would?

Any of the US Armed Forces. Just sayin'.

#102 Jimash 5/31/2007 3:51:36 pm PDT

Oh BAbba I am reading further now.
That Baker output IS bullshit.

Sorry I had a blackout, huge T-storm...

That bullshit Baker output is exactly what's being implemented.

#48 BabbaZee 5/31/2007 8:52:40 pm PDT

UPDATE

STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BAKER PLAN:
12/6/06 Baker report: Israel must withdraw from Golan

5/31/07:
Olmert: Israel Willing to Give up Golan for Peace with Syria

By Amihai Zippor

(IHC News, 31 May 2007)

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert acknowledged he is willing to give up the entire Golan Heights, captured from Syria in 1967, for a peace deal.

However, the price Israel will pay will depend on the level of relations Syria is willing to provide.

"The price is clear. There may be a debate on the payment terms, discounts etc. but the main question is what Israel would receive in return. Will it receive peace like [the one it has] with Egypt, peace like Britain and France have, or a deception: Give us the Golan, and all you'll get is an alliance between Syria and Iran and Hamas headquarters in Damascus," the Israeli daily Haaretz quoted Olmert as saying on Thursday, 31 May 2007.

"My duty as Prime Minister is to examine [the negotiations option] even if intelligence evaluations say it's a deception and even when Western and other leaders warn me," he was reported to have said in recent closed meetings on the issue.

Since last summer, Syrian President Bashar Assad has threatened Israel that if it did not restart peace talks on withdrawing from the Golan, Syria would begin an armed campaign to retake it.
[SNIP]

#170 akak 5/31/2007 5:26:00 pm PDT

Now you can shout "Death to Jihadists!" every time you flush.