Give it the 24 hour test

Kind of the University's business isn't it?

...turned it into a de facto mosque.

GIVE: one inch
TAKE: one mile

Ok, I goofed. It is a public University, clearly it is our business. I should read the link before getting snarky.
My first mistake. Ever.
Sorry Charles.

OT:

ElBaradei Warns of "Crazies" Seeking War with Iran...

Anyone think this guy is impartial?...

Debbie Schlussel has a related post up about U. Mich:

University of Michigan to Fund Muslim Footbaths

Last week, Kay Pepin, University of Michigan-Dearborn Director of Facilities Planning, and Terry Gallagher, a U of M-Dearborn spokesman, confirmed to me that plans are in the works to build Muslim footbaths (they refer to them as "foot-washing stations") in both the University Center and Fairlane Center buildings at the university.

When I asked why the footbaths were being installed, Gallagher told me that this is "an accommodation to a significant portion of our student body and their friends and visitors in accordance with our mission." He said that it is a growing trend with Boston University, Cal State-Fullerton, University of Wisconsin-Madison, and Washington University of St. Louis, all installing footbaths. "We wanted to be part of that trend in accommodating Muslim students."

But when I asked Gallagher what portion of the U-M Dearborn is Muslim, he said that the most recent information the school has is from a 2004 survey of incoming freshman. The survey only identified 11% of students as Muslims, whereas 37% of incoming freshman were Roman Catholic. When I asked if there was any accommodation or money spent on Catholic students, he could not identify any.

Where's Bob Munck (Munch) to explain it again to us why this is a no brainer and make feeble excuses for the terrorists when you need him?

BOB? Oh BOB?

I swear I will go into every "prayer room", foot wash station and any other muslim-only use facility with my rosary and pray aloud!

MSA: More Saudi Activists.

#7 Peacekeeper

I am curious, but if it were a PRIVATE university, and it had policies that were driving Muslim students away, would it be Publics business?

How about not enough womens bathrooms in order to drive women out?

MSM doesn't get it, but making the other religions FEEL subdued is the whole point.

Once Islamic land,

Always Islamic land.

Once a Mosque,

Always a Mosque.

Say by by, and get ready for the uni to provide a new Meditation Center elsewhere.

#9 zombie

The survey only identified 11% of students as Muslims, whereas 37% of incoming freshman were Roman Catholic.

And as a final testament to the power of Muslim radicals, and their LLL dupes in the administration, I wonder what percentage of those Muslim students are actually pious, practicing Muslims, or who would actually use those public foot baths.

WEED ROOM FOR RASTAS!

Do these muslims physically prevent others from using the prayer room? Some Christians need to gather there, men and woman, and pray. Period. Big men.

And those foot baths, I bet they make great urinals.

I can't tell a footbath from a urinal, honest ;)

#20 Ben Hur

And white guys named Jamal

Ben you're just going to get Babba all worked up.

From a purely technical point of view, a public footbath doesn't sound very sanitary.

It's very troubling that in Muslim countries, Muslims who have tasted the "goodness" of Islam are leaving by the tens of thousands every year to embrace Jesus Christ, but in Western countries, our liberal educational institutions are bending over backwards to appease this dangerous political and religious ideologies.

Source straight from a renown imam

6 million Muslims leaving Islam every year in Africa alone

I find solace in the belief that, in the end, this death cult called Islam will be destroyed by the Love of Jesus Christ. Muslims will have had enough of the hatred and violence, and will embrace the cross. They will be targeted for death and violence, but they will never go back to Islam.

Then he tried to find foot bath on google...

#13 buzzsawmonkey
LOL!

20 filetandrelease 6/01/2007 12:09:47 pm PDT

Do these muslims physically prevent others from using the prayer room? Some Christians need to gather there, men and woman, and pray. Period. Big men.

I was headed that way, but...
Thanks for finishing the thought!

Maybe LGF could start a telethon to raise money for these universities. So they could finally afford a set of balls.

In the rest of that post, he describes in depth how the Facilities responsible for managing the Johnson Centre have essentially denied the MSA's request to expand the space.

GOOD!

/expect a fatwa Johnson Center

#33 Buzzsawmonkey
These are barbarians that wipe their anuses with their hands. Do you believe they would use wipes? We could make a fortune buying stock in Charmin, if they'd just use it!

Spaceship room for Scientologists/Raelians and the Nation of Islam Motherwheel. Can't read the article, link wasn't working, but if true, it is good news.

20 filetandrelease

Do these muslims physically prevent others from using the prayer room?

If you clicked the link and read the story you would find the answer is- yes, they do.

A couple months back I wanted to pray the Catholic rosary on a Sunday I couldn't make it to church, and I was told I could not

#26 Peacekeeper

From a purely technical point of view, a public footbath doesn't sound very sanitary

Especially with there uncanny resemblance to a pisser.

#7 peacekeeper
Ok, I goofed. It is a public University, clearly it is our business. I should read the link before getting snarky.
My first mistake. Ever.
Sorry Charles.

BTW, lots of private Universities take BIG $$ from the US government, which doesn't distinguish them ( those that do) much from
public Universities in my mind.

They need to be kicked out of the room and allow it to be used for it original non-deminiational purpose.

These palis are evil incarnate.
[Link: www.nysun.com...]

#37 sharmuta
see my #11. I would force the issue. Public location and/or public money. Religion (if you can call it that) already being practiced there.
They would have to assault me to stop me, and that might not be wise :)

Hmmmm, no ACLU suing the university for supporting a religion? Must be that they've not heard. Yea, that's the reason. Second thought...has anyone sneaked in and pissed in the footwash bowl? Just a thought.

#43 Don't tip 'em off

# 37 Sharmuta

I did read it, and "I was told I could not", is not physically preventing someone from using it.

OT---But this does tie in with the murdered Hindu family, and the young Moslem man who'se suspected in deaths in Southern California;

[Link: www.ocregister.com...]

I find it incredible how hard this article strives to whitewash the Islamic suspect, and slop Romeo and Juliet romance all over him, ignoring such questions as where did he get the money to support his helicopters, and fancy lifestyle, and why was he heading for Pakistan?

I'm also getting annoyed with the way they're trying to pin so much blame on the Hindu family's alleged "intolerance."

42 MrMom

I did see it, and I'm with you. I would have raised Holy Hell (pun intended).

Posted on Thu, May. 31, 2007

IRAQ

U.S. trying to open a dialogue with al-Sadr, commander says

By Leila Fadel
McClatchy Newspapers

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The U.S. military is seeking talks with Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al-Sadr directly and through the government of Iraq, according to a top American general.

A Sadr aide confirmed that U.S. officials had approached the anti-American cleric's supporters but said that Sadr would never begin a dialogue with what they describe as "occupation forces."

"He has a grass-roots movement that he's always going to have; we have to recognize that," Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the second-ranking American commander in Iraq, told McClatchy Newspapers in an interview this week. "We're trying to talk to him. We want to talk to him."

In a video conference from Baghdad on Thursday, Odierno also said the U.S. was reaching out to Sunni Muslims as well as Shiite armed factions such as Sadr's Mahdi Army militia.

"We are talking about cease-fires, and maybe signing some things that say they won't conduct operations against the government of Iraq or against coalition forces," he said Thursday.

At the same time, however, U.S. and British forces have stepped up operations against the Mahdi Army in the sprawling Shiite slum of Sadr City in Baghdad and the southern port city of Basra.

Odierno told McClatchy that he wasn't sure whether Sadr's resurfacing in the Shiite holy city of Kufa last week was a good or bad thing for American forces in Iraq. While the cleric was away, his organization became more fractionalized, and part of the reason for his return, Odierno said, was "the consolidation of his powers." This could mean cleaning up rogue elements of the Mahdi Army, he said.

"I'm mixed; I'm not sure yet," Odierno said referring to the effect of Sadr's return on security. "I'll take a wait-and-see attitude."

Sadr, who was widely rumored to be hiding in neighboring Iran for months, appeared at Friday prayers in Kufa last week spouting anti-American rhetoric and calling on his followers to work with Sunnis against a U.S. "occupation."

so George Mason, Michigan

whats next Ohio, Texas?

/Ben Z will be pissed

Although already suffering badly from Southwesterly shear as seen in the visible satellite loop, the WC-130J Super Hercules reports max flight level winds of 52 knots, pressure of 1000 mb and a warm core, as reported in this URNT12 message, so, IMHO, this should be upgraded to 35 or 40 knot Sub-Tropical Storm Barry at 2:45 PM EDT.

I'd issue tropical storm warnings Sanibel Island to Waccasassa Bay, including Tampa Bay area.

But, I'm just an amateur.

You know, muslims have attended American universities for decades. Why the sudden need for publicly provided foot-washing stations and prayer rooms?

this commandeering is exactly what will happen to the Non-denominational meditation room that will prob be included with the WTC replacement bldgs. The Islams will take it over anddemand more and foot washing and crescents and shouting speaker-systems...

OT---Nadnerb, are you out there? I could certainly use some reassurence about the soundness of the OC/Southern Cal, and some crass jokes about the OC Weekly (which, I notice, isn't going near the incident I link to in Post #46.)

Seriously, whatever the facts of that sad murder case, the way the media is handling it is becoming a story all on its own. Maybe Charles, or Zombie could look into it.

#52 Ed

I'd issue tropical storm warnings Sanibel Island to Waccasassa Bay, including Tampa Bay area.

Florida needs the rain.

I don't know #47 tfk...

As a capitalist, I am a little disturbed by your monologue... While I don't "lust" for money, I do enjoy the chase and the work of creating wealth.

Maybe I am misunderstanding something?

47 tfk Roundup. No roots, no weed, no problem.

#53 funky chicken

You know, muslims have attended American universities for decades. Why the sudden need for publicly provided foot-washing stations and prayer rooms?

CAIR's deception tactics.

I suppose when the followers of Islam, for 1500 years, are taught, deception, deception, patience with the deception, deception, and then add in CAIR's lawsuits against anyone who even looks at any Muslim, or even speaks about Muslims, they are just going with the new oppurtunity.

One thing, they never knew it would have been this easy for them.

#52 Ed

Suffolk County (NY..my native MA also has one) is getting some very heavy thunderstorms...warning people to stay off the roads...newsradio880 traffic report just now.

Clear as can be here, on the other side of LI Sound.

Navy Monterrey Research Satellite Center is referring to this system as 02L, meaning it has been decided by NHC to either classify this as a Tropical Depression or Sub-Tropical Depression.

52 knot winds (96 km/hr) at 500 meters above sea level would support at least 35 knots (65 km/hr), making this either a tropical or sub-tropical storm, but what do I know, I'm just an amateur.

45 filetandrelease

I did read it, and "I was told I could not", is not physically preventing someone from using it.

So you mean actually touching this Catholic, okay. If you think they wouldn't touch him to keep him out I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

You know, muslims have attended American universities for decades. Why the sudden need for publicly provided foot-washing stations and prayer rooms?

Excellent question, Funky Chicken.

And, while we're on the subject, do airline pilot schools in Florida provide them? I've heard that some very devout Moslems have gone to airplane crashing flying school there.

So yet again, we have the generals turned into olive branch waving, death squad enticing, diplomats.

Our military should be busy KILLING Al Sadr and his merry terrorists...not trying to convice them to become democrats.

I always shower and shave before going to Mass.

Now, sometimes, when going to work, I'll shower the night before, even though I know I might persire a little in my sleep, and not be as fresh as I could be at the office the next day, for the extra 15 minutes sleep.

But for church, it just seems more respectful.

Of course, I only go to church once a week normally, and don't demand they build me a shower at work in case I want to pop in for a prayer on the way home.

#48 touche wrapped in wax paper!
#49 excellent!

Posted this on the wrong thread...re what is happening to US universities...

Colleges veer left for '07 speakers

#60 funky chicken: Well done! Funny on several levels.

Now, June 8th, 1953 was a notable exception, but as a rule, New York/New England severe thunderstorms are p*ssies compared to Texas and Oklahoma severe storms.

sharmuta-
Are you Catholic? Perhaps we could get together, throw Ed into the mix and and pray a chaplet or three. After all, where two or more are gathered......

Yeah, I remember the days when each religion was able to use the student union to meet and greet or do whatever they wanted to do in the rooms and there were muslims there as well. Now, this was way back in 1982-1985, but there sure wasn't any footbaths but up for those who practice the will of allah. Clicked the link and those of you who didn't and don't believe this is a big deal will probably have no problem developing a callus on your head one day or your wife, mother, sister or daughter in a burka or in one yourself. Of course the fact that this is the only place I've seen this isn't too surprising either.
#66 my husband got back in Feb. and he wasn't too pleased to hear that bit of news either.

72 MrMom

Sorry- I'm pretty private with my info. Hope you don't mind if I don't answer.

Now that we're debating/bemoaning jihad planning muslim prayer rooms and foot baths, does anybody wonder how and why the crusades occurred and who was on the side of right?

#74 sharmuta
No problem. Probably shouldn't have asked. Either way, you'd be invited. :) All infidels welcome.

does anybody wonder how and why the crusades occurred and who was on the side of right?

No Blood for Olive Oil!

Just a guess.

Any Catholic students now reading LGF from said universities ...contact the person in charge and demand a holy water font be placed in areas throught the school. Would love to hear their response. Make a HUGE BIG DEAL out of this.

In the rest of that post, he describes in depth how the Facilities responsible for managing the Johnson Centre have essentially denied the MSA's request to expand the space.

I would like to see them send in the building maintenance staff and remove everything that is not university purchased from the room.

Ed, I agree with you in general, but 2 weeks ago we had a whopper. It downed every tree "including very old growth vital trees" for 4 miles with a two hundred yard wide swath two miles north of my house. It did similar damage in another town in connecticut. What is very fortunate is that nobody was killed

#64 Sharmuta

I did say to bring the big boys. So keep your bridge. And they may not be quite so stupid as to physically confront someone. Bad PR. Although, I admit, your assumption is probably correct. But if so, have they?

Again the article relates a verbal responce, nothing physical. Which begs the question, are they physically preventing other religions from using the prayer room?

77 Peacekeeper 6/01/2007 12:52:00 pm PDT

does anybody wonder how and why the crusades occurred and who was on the side of right?
No Blood for Olive Oil!

Just a guess.

ROTFLMAO!

75 MrMom

does anybody wonder how and why the crusades occurred and who was on the side of right?

Not anymore, I don't.

For anyone else I recommend this book.

Will no one use the room for a pork-rinds-and-beer fest?

Just a thought on how to combat this.

1) At each entrance, write the name "Jesus" in chalk or tape it to the floor or something.

2) Videotape everyone entering or leaving the room. Make sure you can tell whether they stepped on it or not.

3) File complaints with the university about how they disrespected your religion. Demand an investigation for each violator.

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? But that's essentially what happened at the University of San Francisco. Of course, the word was "allah", not "Jesus". I'm sure they didn't make a difference. They are sensitive to all religions, right?

a "non-denominational meditation room..."

Well, GMU muslims seem to be able to recognize a soft target when they see one, I'll give them that.

She went into it believing the situation had been exaggerated—but found it was worse than she could have imagined:

Why are all these people surprised that reports of the sheer nihilism of the Paleos are not exaggerated?

#26 Peacekeeper 6/01/2007 12:11:56 pm PDT

From a purely technical point of view, a public footbath doesn't sound very sanitary.

Good question. IIRC, women in Canada in full burka suffer from rickets due to lack of sun. What archaic muslim custom is actually GOOD for you? Starving during ramadan? Wiping your butt with the left hand? And with three stones? What?

This land was your land, but now it's my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for only me

/now where's my jizya kafir?

WHo DUKED IN THE FOOT WASH Basin?

Why? Its such a senseless crime?

So who laid a big brown ragdoll in the Footwashing station?

HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAH!

Oh! YOU think its funny do ya? mmmkay?

Well how would you feel if you went in to a nice serene place, mmkay, where you dont have to look at or smell Kaafirs and at the bottom of a basin is a Chocolate hotdog for all the world to see!
It would make me want to chop someones head off thats for sure.

If i did'nt know any better id say this was a conspiracy like 9-11! Where were the Hillel students at that time? I heard that a few were seen cheering about 5 minutes after this Scatological TERROISM was performed!

Ok, keeping font size below 25 pt...

¡WHOO-HOOO!

Only because I'm glad Florida is getting much needed rain to reduce the wildfire risk and ensure a healthy crop of delicious Florida citrus.

TROPICAL STORM BARRY FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022007
2100 UTC FRI JUN 01 2007

AT 5 PM EDT...2100 UTC... A TROPICAL STORM WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM BONITA BEACH NORTHWARD TO KEATON
BEACH...AND A TROPICAL STORM WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FROM NORTH OF KEATON BEACH TO ST. MARKS. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS AND A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH
AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM CENTER LOCATED NEAR 24.2N 85.5W AT 01/2100Z POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 30 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE NORTH OR 10 DEGREES AT 10 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 1000 MB
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 40 KT WITH GUSTS TO 50 KT.

Get a group of Christian students in there for some good ole praise and worship music! A couple choruses of 'My Jesus, I Love You' would do the trick.

#82 filetandrelease

When I went up to look at the space, it was impossible to enter without stepping on some of the many prayer rugs -- and yes, they were clearly prayer rugs, about 2 feet wide by 3 or 4 feet long, not a couple area rugs meant to cover most of the floor. If I step on them without removing my shoes -- it's a meditation room, not a Japanese restaurant -- I'm not sure what sort of verbal or physical reaction I would get.

The gender separation barrier makes me want to vomit. It upsets me that they exist in some synagogues, but to have one set up in a "public" area state-funeded university whose namesake wrote a key forerunner of the Bill of Rights, is too much.

If I were involved in a local church I might take the step of leaving some literature on the same table with the Muslim pamphlets; perhaps I'll look for something with a Cross on the front when I stop by the local Catholic Church with some visiting friends who are visiting this weekend.

The Student Government discussion seems to have a split among the non-Muslim students: Kill the area, provide for other faiths and require devotional items (such as prayer rugs) to be put away after use (which I favor), or leave it be (which, as it is a de facto mosque, I oppose). Muslim students make some nice noises in the discussion, but seem more attuned to their own convenience than to the separation of mosque and state school.

Um, cygnus, that doesn't sound like something to do in the "Quiet Meditation Area." Of course I doubt the prayers to the moon demon are all that silent.

We got leases with the "JJ Waggoner" branch of that family.

Tornado near Hardemann/Foard county line, and baseball hail.

73 terrig mine's going soon.

So he can make Iraq safe for Al Sadr.

George Mason (GMU) professor Peter Mandaville invited Tariq Ramadan to GMU a couple years ago, but thankfully our alert border guards wouldn't grant the terrorist promoter a visa to enter the US.

GMU is now Senator DhJim Webb and Rep. DhJim Moran country. GMU invited Michael Moore to speak--at taxpayer expense in 2004.

GMU hosted Barack Hussein Obama for some politickin in old Virginny. Fairfax County, that is. In the big Caliphate surrounding your nation's capital.

#13

Actually, the MSA has those very T-shirts

Quittin' time

Oh, classic tornadic signature on doppler radar, although tornado appears not to be in classic SW corner, but has instead wrapped heavy rain all the way around it, such that it may occlude itself and die. But I suspect a new one would form quickly...

411 PM CDT FRI JUN 1 2007

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 430 PM CDT FOR FOARD AND
HARDEMAN COUNTIES...

AT 411 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR DETECTED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 10 MILES NORTHWEST OF CROWELL...MOVING SOUTHEAST AT 20 MPH. THE MOST DANGEROUS PART OF THIS STORM WILL MOVE THROUGH NORTHERN PARTS OF FOARD COUNTY...INCLUDING AREAS AROUND CROWELL AND MARGARET.

* LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE CROWELL.

IN ADDITION TO A TORNADO THREAT... THIS STORM LIKELY CONTAINS DAMAGING HAIL TO THE SIZE OF BASEBALLS OR LARGER. THE LARGE HAIL WILL LIKELY EXTEND NORTHWARD INTO SOUTHERN PARTS OF HARDEMAN COUNTY.

THIS TORNADO IS LIKELY OBSCURED BY RAIN AND MAY NOT BE VISIBLE. ABANDON MOBILE HOMES AND VEHICLES. IF POSSIBLE... MOVE TO A BASEMENT
OR STORM SHELTER. OTHERWISE MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM OR HALLWAY ON THE LOWEST FLOOR. STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS

Maybe I missed it, but are any non-muslim students there going to make a real attempt to use the room?

They need to and to film it.

The arrogance of these people knows no bounds. In the end, it will be their downfall.

“Beware of him that is slow to anger; for when it is long coming, it is the stronger when it comes, and the longer kept. Abused patience turns to fury.”

Francis Quarles(English religious Poet. 1592-1644)

Resistance girl

Maybe I missed it, but are any non-muslim students there going to make a real attempt to use the room?

They need to and to film it.

That is what I am talking about. Sometimes opportunities arise with adversity.

Bill Jefferson.

Go back with some friends, and hidden cameras, and walk thru respectful of the mats.(maybe) And I agree with your point about separate areas for men and woman. Go to the women's side. And pray. No need to deal with it.

I think the image is more like this:

[Link: www.capricelimoges.com...]

Erm it's a public school...do away with the room. How hard is that? Problem solved.

Oh and the separation of the sexes in the public room that tax payers pay for is COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT! Man that just pisses me off that they allowed them to even do that.

A student who has attends school there should make a documented attempt to respectfully enter and use that portion of the campus.

It will be instructive to know, if nothing else, that "no go" zones exist here in the US already.

These zones need to be challenged before they are an accepted fact of life right here in our own country.

It's useless to sit in our homes and talk to like minded people about it.

This situation seems like a good one to teach muslims that they cannot appropriate public spaces.

These are the "dry runs" of seeing just what the general population will accept.

Just a tentative feeler. Just a campus.

Nothing to see here. Really...nothing for you to see here. So get out, Christians and Jews.

WHERE is the aclu? Ooops, again I forget. After all it is the anti-CHRISTIAN lawyers union.

what frustrates me is that my wife has been telling me of things like this for the past 4 years (since we met). She is a christian that grew up in a muslim country. Muslims have always slowly taken over, they are like communists.

#113
Which country?
I'm assuming Lebanon, but it could just as easily be Egypt, Syria, Iraq or about 50 other countries.

Oh, how I despise islam.

#114

She was born and raised in Istanbul, Turkey. It is the most modern and moderate of all the muslim countries, but it is still a bad place to live if you are a christian.

In the middle of this final exam Mohamad raises his hand and announces that he has to go to the “prayer room.” Abdul says the same and follows Mohammad to the “prayer room.”

While bending over and “praying” Mohammad says, “For the sake of Allah what was the answer to #66?

Abdul says “Here is my cheat sheet. See for yourself.”

After reading the cheat sheet, Mohammad says, “Praise to Allah. He has given me the answer to the White Devil’s test."

Abdul says, “You, sly dog. You sure know how to stick it to the Infidel.”

Mohammad says, “Thanks, but because I am a little older I am a better cheater than you…

Oh no, here come Professor Infidel, Mohamad said, "Bend over and put it where the sun does not shine... Ouch, I'm not a goat. I did not say screw me, I said hide the cheat sheet in Uranus.”