Just make sure the stick isn't TOO thick.

I'll run this by the wife, see what she thinks...

Been nice knowing you all...

Do you use a bag full of oranges, like in the movie, The Grifters?

NOW to the rescue in 3...2...1...

...-1...-2...hello? Is this thing on?

One of these days im gonna get #1! Damn you zombie!

I can't get it to play. Is there a transcript?

(and on a personal note - this isn't even funny. There are real women being subjected to this appalling treatment.)

OT: Roger Hedgecock (sp?) replacing Rush, just announced Gates has replaced Pace as head of the JCS?!?!

Hasn't hit the wires yet cuz of ... Paris Hilton!?!?!

OH PS- Id also like to add - Sucks to Islam.

This is a fucking outrage.

I don't even know where to start this f**kwad.

Whew. What a relief. It's not really beating, but more like punching her lights out. I mean, you wouldn't want the neighbors see you actually beating your wife fercyinoutloud. I misjudged Islam. Thank you Mr. President. (/oh boy)

The stick is supposed to be the thickness of your thumb. Ladies, marry a guy with small hands...oh, wait...

#1 Zombie

No, no stick. Just punch her -- that's ok. No shoving or poking, just a good right hook.

"One of these days, Alice ..."

"The culture of the electricity cable" and the definition of "light beating".

'How interesting and culturally authentic!'

And let me add that I am not going to show this clip to my wife. She's not Lorena Bobbit...but I take no chances...

Thank God he isn't a "civilized white man", or a "right-winged American"... We would have the NOW crowd and every womans-studies department in the country marching on Washington.

But he is an Arab... just walk by nicely and smile.

Rx for this guy:

Sherry Glasser takes off her top in front of him.

Meanwhile, here in America, leftist/Demorat Feminists prefer the clinton/clinton model for proper marital relations.

#6 Mama Winger

I can't get it to play. Is there a transcript?

Click on the Memri TV link and go to it's video.

So...let's recap. The husband must beat a "rebelious" wife so that she "comes to her senses"? I'd always thought that the more you beat a human being, the more senseless they become! What a backward, misguided, evil cult they have all sold their souls to. Wow.

'Well, at least they hate Israel too. That's more than enough for a political alliance with the arab street.'

-The Left

Islam may need a sound beating to bring it back to IT'S SENSES.

Religion of Peace

Religion of Pain

Religion of Punching

#20 Golem

Click on the Memri TV link and go to it's video.

Thank you. :)

He claims, as do all these misogynistic small-dicked cretins, that beating is only for "rebellious" wives, and that westerners are spreading the lie that any Muslim man is permitted to beat his wife whenever he wants.

But that raises the important question: Who determines what counts as "rebellious?"

Hmmm?

Why, the husband of course. And every single violently abusive husband would claim that he was beating his wife because, from his point of view, she was being rebellious.

Hence, there could never be a case of unjustified wife-beating.

Take him to court? Take him to sharia court? By the fundamental principles of sharia, his testimony would be believed over hers. Case closed.

How many men, right now, in the entirely of the Islamic world, are in jail for beating their wives?

I venture the answer is "Zero."

Just to let you guys know what we are up against I have posted many of these Memri Videos on other web sites. Whay was the reaction of one of the resident "islamo-apologists", who is a sandal wearing,, college age nit wit? "OH yeah that's Memri, They are Jews who are just trying to make Islam look bad."
My head exploded. It wasnt even like he thought those were all Jewish actors and the whole thing was a setup, he knew they just translate the stuff for primetime consumption, yet he still had that obtuse attitude. Then he pulled out of his the ususal "Well Christians do the same thing" Moral equivalency card. For some people there just is no hope WHATSOEVER. Sad really.

The most telling quote is the thing about separate beds.

The strength of a woman lies in her ability to seduce the man. The man is strong and can do whatever he wants, but the woman has a weapon of her own. This weapon can be targeted.

Here is a nutshell (literally) is the pathology of the Islamic world: paranoid fear of female sexuality.

I know some women who would give this guy a good, thorough, eating-through-a-tube beating.

BTW, Learn the Truth about Islam

Thanks for clearing that up, Doc. Will take it up with Mrs Pat.

Well, they hate the US, the West, and ,of course, Jews and Zionists so that makes wife beating just fine, doesn't it?

Why? Because Islamic culture is the only culture that is spreading, and is viewed with fear by people of other cultures.

I agree 100%. You are spreading your culture by threat of (or actual) violence in all parts of the world. Said violence scares other people. Very simple

Here is a nutshell (literally) is the pathology of the Islamic world: paranoid fear of female sexuality.

That's what I find so odd. Why the fear of female sexuality? After I get married this fall, I'm rather looking forward to it...

#6 mama winger
I can't get it to play either. For the last
couple of weeks anytime Charles post a
video that needs Windows Media Player, my
computer won't play it and I'm using
windows/xp sp/2 with media player installed.

Oh man -

That guy's mug is BEGGING for well placed elbow.

It's pretty pathetic how leftwing kooks ignore such statements from these barbarians.

But, I guess anything to beat Bush or America is fair game, right?

#23 Muadib

Islam may need a sound beating to bring it back to IT'S SENSES.

I think I understand. First, we appeal to their (Moslems) senses. If that fails, we stop sleeping with Islam. And we can beat the cr*p out of them, according to the good president quoted above. I'm jiggy wit' it.

Well, at least he didn't say "she didn't listen" as justification.

Any truth to the rumor that Ike Turner has coverted to Islam?

All this is immensely sad...

#20 Golem
I tried that also and it still won't
play. It shows "error on page".

I am very certain that the femminists will protest against this aspect of Islam any moment now...crickets...

Not entirely OT - French authorities have issued an international arrest warrant for the popular Algerian singer Cheb Mami...

Mami is accused of trying to force an abortion on his former girlfriend, a magazine photographer, during a trip to Algeria in 2005. It is claimed his alleged victim was locked in a house belonging to one of the singer's friends, where two doctors attempted to perform an abortion She later realised the foetus was still alive and decided to keep the child, a girl now eight months old.

Cheb Mami is a fairly well known singer in France, having recorded a number of hit records.

#31 simonml

Why? Because Islamic culture is the only culture that is spreading, and is viewed with fear by people of other cultures.

I disagree here. Islamic culture is NOT spreading. In fact, Islamic culture is weak, and unable to compete with more vigourous, capitalistic cultures such as Western (particularly American) culture. That's why there is such a visceral, xenophobic reaction against the West in the Muslim world which is driving a lot of their extremism. They know we're the superior civilisation, and they know that their own people would choose us over them if given even half a free choice.

Islam is receding, and has been for centuries. Physically, it has lost the Iberian peninsula, the Russian steppe, most of the Balkan peninsula, Sicily, Palestine, and northern India since the territorial peak of Islam back around 1000 AD. Spiritually and culturally, Islam is even more backward and uncompetitive. Islam is violent not because it is vigourous, but because it is backed into a corner, culturally speaking.

My visceral reaction to this is that I would love to nail that guy in the nads.

#40 Mike in Georgia

I tried that also and it still won't
play. It shows "error on page".

I'm no computer geek, but going directly to MemriTV usually works out for me. But hey, I'm still fascinated by television...

Oh, how I would love to read again and again of abused Muslim women, having had enough, sewing bedsheets tight over sleeping husbands and beating him to a bloody pulp with a baseball bat.

# 32 Titus Quinctius

A while back someone here posted links to two articles dealing with the psychopathology of terrorism. One of them made a point about widespread practice of sexual abuse of boys in Muslim countries. This was abuse both by men and women.

I don't know how widespread the problem is, but given how bad Muslim men treat their wives, I would not at all be surprised to see the wives take out their frustrations on their sons.

Amazing what those burkas will cover up. Bruises, black eyes, missing teeth.

Just so very peaceful.

I hope the dhimmis in Londonistan enjoy what is headed their way!

OT just breaking, news from the Pentagon, Gen.Pace retiring, Sec. Gates about to make announcement!

I know what it's like. To be female, and living in a house with a man bigger than you. One who steals your car keys so you cannot drive. One who prohibits you from talking to friends, because they may find out. One who locks you in the basement and you do not know when you will get out again.

One who controls your coming out, and your going in. One who beats you and burns you and struggles with you in his rage that you would attempt to be your own person, your own woman.

That millions of women are living under this virtual prison, with no hope of escape except death, sickens me and makes me enraged.

Somebody needs to beat him instead.

Anybody want to help? ;)

# 41 Golem

Quite a few of them probably nodded in agreement when he said that "the woman has a weapon of her own." Isn't that the whole Eve Ensler thing?

H/T BH.

I wonder if Hillary would get nervous if Bill converted?

I didn't beat my wife, I just shoved her, hit her with 2 jabs in the chin, gave her a devestating right uppercut (if I do say so myself), and pummeled her gently as she lay unconscious. All you @$$hole westerners know that this is acceptable.

This guy really is a douche. What he obviously doesn't realize is that the "punishment" of sleeping in separate beds is probably more of a treat for the wife of an abuser.

Personally, I wouldn't want a wife who would tolerate a beating, in whatever form:

...it’s more like punching... It’s like shoving or poking her.

Yeah, kids, don't try this at home.

Islam really has a problem with women...and vice versa.

So...we are attempting to negotiate with people of this mindset?

So...we are attempting to instill some moral principles necessary for a democracy with people of this mindset?

I'm afraid this is going to be a very long 'war' with not very many wanting to finish the job.

I don't know that he's the President of Al-Azhar. However, I think he's the Grand Mufti of Egypt.

The strength of a woman lies in her ability to seduce the man.

Here's what they're all afraid of..

"A sexy woman went up to the bar in a quiet rural pub. She gestured alluringly to the bartender who approached her immediately. She seductively signaled that he should bring his face closer to hers. As he did, she gently caressed his full beard.

"Are you the manager?" she asked, softly stroking his face with both hands.
"Actually, no," he replied.

"Can you get him for me? I need to speak to him," she said, running her hands beyond his beard and into his hair.

"I'm afraid I can't," breathed the bartender. "Is there anything I can do?"

"Yes. I need for you to give him a message," she continued, running her forefinger across the bartender's lips and slyly popping a couple of her fingers into his mouth and allowing him to suck them gently.

"What should I tell him?" the bartender managed to say.

"Tell him," she whispered, "there's no toilet paper, hand soap, or paper towels in the ladies room!"

Remember how worked up the NOW gals got about violence during the Superbowl?

Crack the old lady over the head with a Koran and... ...crickets...

Just a couple of nitty questions: Just which one in a Rosie/Kelli type of relationship is the punchee? Does dental insurance normally cover tooth replacement/repair in these situations? Is there any rule of thumb for limits on "poking" (i.e. one finger only? more than one? must fingernails be trimmed to less-than-lethal lengths?).
/This video was a pretty good start but really left a lot to be answered. Then again, maybe those gray areas are left to the imagination and creative impulses of the puncher.

How sad. What a bizarre world these people live in. I just don't think this belief system is what is written on the human heart. It is just another form of tyranny in its true meaning of the word.

Because Islamic culture is the only culture that is spreading, and is viewed with fear by people of other cultures.

Sure, buddy.

And we can see your "confidence" in your message in the way you have to make conversion from Islam illegal, and in the way you harrass, ban, and murder Christians in your lands.

Why do they still think a woman without a clitoris wants to seduce the man who hits her?

They beat their women because LGF is a Muslim hate site.

#43 Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I was just quoting the video.

While you make some good arguments and present some compelling evidence, the opposing argument might be made just as compelling. Increased Muslim birthrates in non-Muslim countries will eventually lead to Muslim majority population and given enough time, probably sharia law. England is the great example of that. Muslim jihad is being waged in numerous countries around the world, Thailand being one of them. While their tactics might not be perfect, it seems to be working in some places. Also, the only Muslim majority country with a secular government, Turkey, is beginning to feel increased pressure from other Muslim countries for a change to a theocracy. Thankfully, Ataturk instilled in his people the importance of secular democracy, but the instability of that foundation is beginning to show.

I agree our civilization is superior and would be chosen if given a "free choice" but Islam spreads by forbidding any sort of choice. Its Islam or the grave for many people. And in that case, Islam wins.

I think the question isn't whether Islam will eventually take over or not. It will be too late when we finally figure out the answer.

32 TQC

Congratulations on your upcoming wedding.

Muslims beat their wives because Bush takes in air.

/TIME Magazine.

Any man who attempts to beat me (or worse) may find that will be his last act. I will not tolerate any abuse whatsoever. I'd just do an Indiana Jones on him as I reminded him not to bring his fists to a gunfight.

Kirly

By Allah, even if only one woman out of a million can be reformed by light beatings... It’s not really beating, it’s more like punching... It’s like shoving or poking her. That’s what it is.

I see the beginnings of a Monty Python skit here...especially as it pertains to 'poking'...

'With regard to wifebeating ... Wifebeating in a nutshell, it grew as part of a program to reform the wife.'

'It's not really beating, it's more like punching. It's like shoving or poking her. That's what it is.'

. I was looking at the right hand on this Primitive. How many times has he struck a woman with that big soft right hand?
I, for one, would line up for an opportunity to help reform Dr. Al-Tayyeb. Not really a beating, of course. Just a shove here and a poke there.

NOW...Rosie...andulus...Hey, where'd everybody go?

50 mama winger

That's really horrible. My deepest sympathies. Happened to my s-i-l. We're sooo glad to be rid of that SOB.

Kirly?

They don't consider women as adults. They are children to be controlled and 'corrected' by their males.

When you start from that viewpoint, violence to aid in the control and correction seems so reasonable.

75 Silhouette

That also accounts for some very perveted thinking with regard to children.

Pffft. perverted.

(Ahmad... notice that the english describes this name perfectly.)

Ahmad meet Lorraina Bobbett. :^)

The second means of treatment is “sleeping in separate beds.”

Why don't I believe they use that one very often?

Perhaps if the stick were no bigger around than his needledick this would not be a problem.

Must be a lot of "rebellious" wives in Pakistan. Check this study out.

There are certain threads that beg for the truthful input of Mrs. MandyManners.

This surely is one.

#74 Ben Hur

haha! well, if that's what it takes!

Kirly

mama winger

I'm so proud of you for getting out.

#76 Perry

Indeed.

How the heck are you, BTW?

of course when they speak of separate beds it means to go to wife #2.

I like my wife.

Hey everybody, it's a lot better than the gang rapes and the honor killings. Whatcha all upset about?

According to tradition, 'taqiyya'(lying or dissimulation for self-preservation or to present a flattering image of islam) should not be done by one Moslem to another, but this 'scholar' is employing taqiyya.

The official statement of Al-Azhar University is in no doubt that wife-beating is more than 'punching':

"If admonishing and sexual desertion fail to bring forth results and the woman is of a cold and stubborn type, the Qur'an bestows on man the right to straighten her out by way of punishment and beating PROVIDED HE DOES NOT BREAK HER BONES NOR SHED BLOOD. Many a wife belongs to this querulous type and requires this sort of punishment to bring her to her senses."

Serge Trifkovic in SWORD OF THE PROPHET analyses Islam's complete destruction of normal human relationships between men and women, mothers, fathers, children.

When one considers all the violations of basic humanity which make up Islam: men permitted to have sexual relations with babies (according to the Ayatollah Khomeni), child brides, female genital mutilation, rape (heterosexual and, yes, homosexual, particularly amongst groups like the Taliban), wife beating, incest, and one realises it's all mandated for and approved of in the Koran and the supporting ahadiths, the conclusion is unmistakeable:

Ultimately, without the love of God, all you have is Islam.

I bet he likes the Dead Milkmen:
[Link: www.deadmilkmen.com...]
RC's Mom

I'm gonna beat my wife
I'm gonna beat my wife now
Gonna smack her with a lead pipe
Gonna smack her with a 2x4
Run her over with a Brink's truck
Chase her down with a lawn mower

Gonna beat my wife
Look out!

Wife beatin'
Mistreatin'
Wife slappin'
It happens

Gonna beat my wife
Gonna beat your wife
Gonna beat his wife
Gonna beat her wife
Gonna beat my wife
Gonna slap my wife
Gonna kick my wife
Good God, y'all!

Gonna beat my wife
Gonna beat my wife
At the shelter
Helter skelter

Wife kickin'
Finger lickin'
Wife killin'
It's thrillin'

Oh baby please don't beat me, baby
I promise I'll never sleep with the moon in my face no more!

I'm gonna beat my wife
Heh heh heh

What a dumb-fuck!

Punching is not beating? Shoving or poking is not laying the hands on another?

It's okay if she's rebellious? Who defines "rebellious?"

I cannot go on. No matter how much I know about the evil called "Islam," I still find myself astounded.

Is this the FDDT?

Touch me, buddy, and you will draw back a fucking nub.

where's the cat?

85 Silhouette

Peachy. :-)
How 'bout yourself? Summertime!

#61 Fasternu426
"Crack the old lady over the head with a Koran and... ...crickets.."

APOSTATE! That is abuse of the Koran!
/which apparantly gets treated better than muslim women

I have failed as a man obviously in our Natalie house which is dominated by women - even our boy dog had to submit to having his twinkies removed.

When I have threaten my harîm حريم with honor beatings, all I get is "where's your wallet?" and "the yard needs a haircut." On a really good day it's followed by muffled laughter.

May Allah have mercy on my soul.

88 MrMom

It's a continuum. A man who believes he has the right to strike a woman is just a short jump from raping and/or killing her.

88 goodbye_natalie

I knew my ears were burning for some reason.

This guy needs to be beaten to death by his wife.

-jcr

# 94 Ploome Hineni

and what does one do with a ;rebellious; husband?

I don't think there can be such a thing, so long as he is an observant Muslim.

#74 Ben Hur
ROTFLMAO! Awesome!

#82 goodbye_natalie 6/08/2007 10:19:43 am PDT

There are certain threads that beg for the truthful input of Mrs. MandyManners.

This surely is one.

Good Call! And sharmuta?

If any woman reading this is involved in domestic violence, please log onto The National Coalition against Domestic Violence.
And/Or, call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233). (To protect your search for information, after you log on, delete your cookies. After you call, call an innocuous number.)

THERE IS A WAY OUT. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO LEAVE YOUR CHILDREN BEHIND. THIS IS AMERICA!

#67 Perry

Thank you!

#94 ploome hineni

...and what does one do with a rebellious husband?

The sheik already explained that, "a man can do whatever he wants"

#96 MandyManners

It's a continuum. A man who believes he has the right to strike a woman is just a short jump from raping and/or killing her.

That would be "honour killing" and yes, under Islam, he has a right.

Shaking with rage right now. Gonna' take a walk.

Sounds like a moderate Muslim to me.

103 TQC

23 years last month. It is sooo worth it. God bless you both.

Hearing background music:

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a real live woman your wife...

Does the Koran have any references to the Prophet Hosea? If it does, I would imagine there would have been a major reworking of Hosea's relationship with his own wife.

Titus Quinctius

Ten years on Midsummer's day. A ten-year-old bottle of Chateau Clerc-Milon awaits us.

Marriage is a wonderful thing. Congratulations and enjoy.

From the study of domestic abuse in Pakistani families. The authors of the study point out that most of the women surveyed were educated and had middle-to-upper class family incomes. While Al-Tayyeb seems to want to downplay the beatings as uncommon occurrences, this study paints a different picture, and pins the blame squarely on the attitude toward women as inferior:

Quantifying domestic violence is difficult as it is inextricably linked to socio-cultural norms and beliefs, making it difficult to compare studies across the regions of the world. What is an acceptable or even understandable behavior, do we need to study violence in the context of a given culture? Are there universal norms of behavior, which every society needs to adhere to? Ultimately the question gets down to the perception and beliefs about equality of genders in a given society. The "subordinate status" (1) of women leading to domestic violence, contributes to a significant health burden in women, as one-third of all the adult women in the world have experienced it2-5. And a major causative factor in the various psychiatric sequels in the women who experience it (16,17).

This study was an attempt to get the victim’s perspective, and the pervasiveness of domestic violence found is alarming. Most of the women in this study were either young or middle aged, had twelve or more years of education, and were employed. Their husbands also, proportionally, tended to have more education than the general population. Yet domestic violence, often both physical and verbal was common in these families.

So, I'm trying to understand what he's saying . . .

What if the man is "rebellious"? It sounds like what he's saying, is that her "weapon" is to "seduce" him into "coming to his senses"? Leaving aside the foolishness of comparing seduction with physical beating, what if seduction doesn't work? May she then (according to the Koran) choose to sleep in a different bed? Or will that then be understood as "rebellion" by the wife, and then worthy of a little punching to knock her back in line?

I'm all for recognizing differences and distinctions between men and women (because despite what the politically correct will have us believe, men and women ARE different) but this kind of Islam makes women in to pets, not complementary and equally important partners.

My plans for tonight are a late dinner and a light beating for the missus...

The problem with muslims not assimilating into our culture is this type of criminal behavior goes under the radar. The women feel isolated and have no one to talk to, or run to for help.

In communities like Dearborn and Hamtramck where women are shrouded under the burka, no one can see the bruises or cuts left by their peace-loving husbands.

Burkas must be outlawed for the protection of the women.

WHERE ARE THE FEMINISTS? WHERE ARE THE LIBERALS WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHAMPIONS OF THE UNDERDOG?

Cowards, all of you. Especially you muslim men.

But on a more serious note,top on NOW's agenda this year,the alarming rise in number of women electing to have vaginal rejuvenation surgery.

just look at that repugnant ugly out of shape awful moslem man talking abt how to beat a woman. i'd like to go in the ring w/you. you stupid pig. you are nothing.

# 112 Live4Truth

What he's saying is that women are able to use their sexuality -- in point of fact, their genitals -- as a "weapon" against men. "Seduction" is a means towards obtaining illegitimate power over a man. He must resist her by sleeping in separate beds. This is how he "targets" the weapon, neutralizing it by not allowing her to use it on him.

Note what's implied here:

1) Men cannot control their desires -- physical proximity to a vulva (I'm not trying to be crude, but if you read the Hadith, this is the way it's expressed) will weaken a man and lead him to "submit" to the woman. Men can only control their desires by effecting a physical separation.

2) Sex is dirty: men want it and need it but feel shame afterwards -- they obtain pleasure, but are afterwards polluted because of their contact with a lower being. Sex with a woman, especially if initiated by the woman, always has the potential to weaken the man.

Don't think the street runs both ways: a woman who refuses to submit to her husbands demands is disobedient and must be punished.

96 MandyManners 6/08/2007 10:30:04 am PDT

88 MrMom

It's a continuum. A man who believes he has the right to strike a woman is just a short jump from raping and/or killing her.

Did not mean to offend. I thought it was obvious the comment was sarcastic, but I should have tagged it. mea culpa

I can hardly wait to see this honor beating; hope they make a good, thick rod because they are going to need it...

It’s not really beating, it’s more like punching... It’s like shoving or poking her. That’s what it is.

I take it Dr. Al-Tayyeb is speaking from personal experience.

he second means of treatment is “sleeping in separate beds.”

I'll bet his wife is praying for that option!

The fact that Islam is spreading by means other than subjugation in countries with ignorant populations does not say much for the men in those cultures. Or women either for that matter. How could any logical person believe that Islam is the way to a decent, peaceful life? So how is a Muslim woman in say, Pakistan or Indonesia hope to improve her lot without help from the outside cultures, like us? Accordingly, all the comments before this are exactly right, where is NOW, etc., when this garbage is broadcast? Hiding behind their abortion rights is our only agenda and we're Pelosified.

#18 ojoe

Sherry Glasser takes off her top in front of him.

he would beat himself to death.

The guy is such an idiot. Or he is totally out of touch with our sensibilities and values. He doesn't even realize that he is making it worse by his explanation that the wife truly must be "rebellious." Hilarious. And sad.

#99,
While few in number, there are rebellious husbands who, probably due to a genetic defect, are incapable of beating their rebellious wives.
Islamic followers want to know... is this nature, or nurture? An absent father, an insufficiently obsequious mother, or is it the unfortunate manifestation of an aberrant chromosome...
But take heart, any afflicted: the imams at our new, state-of-the-art institute J.E.R.K (Jihadis Eliminating or Re-educating Kuffars)are on it, pbuh.

#117,
Damn, it's just a short leap from that to Catherin McKinnon.
But then moonbats in America have always been soul brothers with radical Islam...

#39 Poitiers-Lepanto

And I agree, so very much.

#117 Lucius Septimius

What he's saying is that women are able to use their sexuality -- in point of fact, their genitals -- as a "weapon" against men. "Seduction" is a means towards obtaining illegitimate power over a man. He must resist her by sleeping in separate beds. This is how he "targets" the weapon, neutralizing it by not allowing her to use it on him.

Interesting. So she's guilty, by her very nature? And therefore, there's nothing she can do to be good, short of wearing a head-to-toe tent, and doing everything else she possibly can to make herself bland, unattractive and unappealing? If she excites a man, in the least, then it's her fault, and anything he wants to do to her from that point on is justified. If she resists, then she's being rebellious.

Yep, if I were a woman stuck in that culture, I think I'd choose the separate beds option. And I sure wouldn't view it as punishment...

Dagnabit! I let my defenses down and allowed this asshole--and, the evil that he represents--to get to me. I gotta' get my knickers unwadded and get back to working on my resume.

Discombobulation in process.

Well if you put it THAT way, I guess my wife-property won't mind if I push/poke/punch her when she burns my steak...

I'm all for it if the woman has the chance to reciprocate using a semi-automatic weapon of some kind. One free shot and a free-for-all after that!

So it all makes sense now, to reinforce Islam as the ROP: the practice of fgm is merely a holy form of disarmament.

ISLAM: It's all about terror starting with your wife and family

118 MrMom

No need to apologize!

I didn't think you were ignorant or spouting nonsense. Not at all. I get slightly wound up on this subject and have a tendency to jump up and down on my soapbox.

"...even if only one woman out of a million can be reformed by light beatings... It’s not really beating, it’s more like punching... It’s like shoving or poking her. That’s what it is."

No, that's not what it is. It's malignant narcissism.

Someone needs to tie this mysogenistic bastard to the wall and give him a sound thrashing with a rubber hose.

#50 mama winger

I know what it's like. To be female, and living in a house with a man bigger than you. One who steals your car keys so you cannot drive. One who prohibits you from talking to friends, because they may find out. One who locks you in the basement and you do not know when you will get out again.

One who controls your coming out, and your going in. One who beats you and burns you and struggles with you in his rage that you would attempt to be your own person, your own woman.

So do I.

/20 yr. domestic violence survivor

Conversely, for the women, I offer the following two word cure for the faithful Muslim wife beater: burning bed. Light that woman-thumping bastard on fire and throw some gasoline on just to be sure you've made your point. If the flames don't take off quickly enough, toss a Koran in the mix.

They have to sleep sometime.

The Islamofascists favorite song

(verse)Changed my pitch up, smacked my *** up...

Band: Prodigy
Song: Smack my *** Up

#62 peck

Yes. Thank you for putting it to words.

Clearly, someone who needs some sense kicked into him with a pair of Greb Kodiak steel-toed work boots.

Muslim comedy club Achmed: I've been married for 6 years...
boy are my arms tired!
(Laughter from all male audience)

#89 Cry of defiance and not of fear

And that is the true putting-of-it-in-a-nutshell.

Achmed: What do you call a Muslimah with two black eyes?
Mahmood: I dunno.
Achmed: A slow learner.

/Al-Azhar University Comedy Channel

NOW doesn't care about abused women in the Middle East, hell they don't even care about domestic violence in this country. A lot of lip service, perhaps... but abortion and politics are the real issues on the table.

If you're a conservative "religious" woman, in this country, you're really on the bottom of the heap.

"Religious" is the keyword here... I suspect that this is why the women of NOW don't defend Muslim victims (the old "conservative religious women are fundamentally ignorant in the first place, and therefore deserving of whatever they get" mentality). Call it a hunch.

#50 mama winger

I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I am so dense I did not "catch" it previously.

#125 taxfreekiller

Then, there's another group --those who can step back and laugh at the ridiculous nonsensicalness of it all, and then weep at the sadness...and the cleansing tears will then provide the impetus to step forward and take the cur by the collar, shake it, and... --can't think further than that: what would be next...? ):

(Started off this comment to you, feeling sad at your own never-smilingness...but because of the subject at hand, it flopped... ):

What no Andalus on this thread? Wonder why?

Time for this nut's wife to volunteer him as a suicide bomber. She ought to get the belt for him and have it "accidentally" go off. It could be like those work related accidents in Palestine that happen periodically.

I just want to say that the words "muslim" and "scholar" together are oxymoronic.
I am convinced that anyone who claims to be one - a "scholar" of this death cult - is self deluded and is a liar at heart.

The second means of treatment is “sleeping in separate beds.
Every Muslimette in the world prays to Allah nightly to be saved from the asshole bandit in her bed.

#112 Live4Truth

A wife can't have a rebellious husband any more than the family gerbil can have a rebellious owner.

We're not talking equals here. It doesn't matter what she "thinks"; she doesn't have standing to judge his actions. He's the lawgiver, the authority in the family.

My take: That's why Islam appeals to weak, runty guys and felons. They can be bullies (at least to Infidels and women) with Allah's approval.

The man is strong and can do whatever he wants, but the woman has a weapon of her own.

Uh, that would be a "WMD" right?

I am faced with two options - either the family will be destroyed by divorce, or I can use means that may bring my wife, the mother of my children, back to her senses.

~And the wind whispers fuzuli~

Seriously, this is what I was told by a muslim man about surah 4:34. This is actually what they believe is allah's will.

In order to know the truth, and be careful with easy assertions, look at the horrible panorama of domestic violence in the USA. Truly alarming.
[Link: www.aidv-usa.com...]
In Mexico the situation is just as horrible.

Addendum to 155
And the National Organization of Women doesn't give a damn about this. They are traitors to women.
/Puke.

RoPP

Religion of Poking and Punching

Maybe this guy should be whacked around and see how he likes it.
I hope everyone sees this. The behaviours we abhor in the West they in the Middle East embrace openly. There is NOTHING good about any of this.