Oh, the irony.

This is consistent with the reports from the other day of average Gaza Arabs begging Israel to re-occupy Gaza.

Not surprised.

And all cultures posses the same values? This upcoming blood bath will rival anything that either Stalin or Mao produced. G_d have mercy on the innocents caught in the crossfire.

voting with their feet...

I'm trying to figure out what the guy on the far right of the picture is doing?

If all this wasn't so tragic, it would be funny.

ZG

Have the wages of appeasement ever been clearer?

When Israelis lived in Gaza, they had a thriving economy, one which employed thousands of Palestinians working in agriculture.

But NOOO, that was evil "occupation"!

So, to appease the dhimmis and the Islamists, Israel uprooted its residents.

FInally, Gaza was free and independent!

Except...

...From the very hour israel left, the place had gone straight to hell, culminating in a complete breakdown of society as of yesterday.

...they know who the *real* savages are...

Wondering how long before the splodeydopes try getting thru in the rush?

Seal the border and leave them there.

At the same time, hundreds of people looted police positions on the Palestinian side of Erez, and at one point Israeli troops fired in the air to keep the crowd at bay. The looters walked off with furniture and scrap metal.

This is the third reference I've seen to looting of furniture in as many days. Are they short on furniture in Gaza and the West Bank? Is there a business opportunity here?

/Chairs for Palestine

#6 DesertSage

I'm trying to figure out what the guy on the far right of the picture is doing?

I saw that...

"Lookie lookie, allah makes me fly to the West Bank !"

The Israeli will be idiots - IDIOTS - if they will let them in. Let them run to Egypt. This will also solve the transfer problem.

and at one point Israeli troops fired in the air to keep the crowd at bay

"...killing tens of scores of 'Palestinian' 5 year olds in the process."

- Al-Reuters

/...it's only a matter of time, sigh

I hope Israel isn't letting them IN!

Of course they were looting! What else do they have to do when there's not a car to swarm?

So where do the oppressed Palestinians look for sanctuary, when the terrorist government they elected begins the inevitable slaughter?

This is simply because the Jews, oops, Israelis, through their relentless propaganda, have caused the poor, noble Palestinians to internalize the Jews', oops, I mean Israelis own racist hatred of them. Hence, by fleeing from Palestine, they are really fleeing from... wait, got it, fleeing from their own internal Jew! Oops, I mean Israeli.

[now I just have to sit back and let those tenured Ivy League offers roll in]

Well, those might be the few sane people there. I know that if I lived there, I'd try to get out, too.

The looters walked off with furniture and scrap metal.

Ah, the good ol' "Palestinian Greenhouse Effect".

#6 DesertSage

I'm trying to figure out what the guy on the far right of the picture is doing?

I think he's a looter.

"Sayid, come help me break this so we can sell it"

Its a Jooo-ish conspiracy...

Media is controlled by Jews...

anyways in picture at right hand side, what that Blue Jens is really doing... I am unable to understand...

This is rich.

Hee hee.

Just posted the crackdown here and Arab flight this AM in the deadthread.

HAH HA!

/Nelson Munch

They are coming in droves.

rtheyserius,

Well, those might be the few sane people there.

Nope. Those are the scared ones. The sane ones left a long time ago.

Kind of reminds me of all those Muslims who are waiting in line to live in the U.S. and Europe, the lands of the dreaded infidel.

Israel shouldn't let them in. The West shouldn't let them in. End of story.

Here's a new look.

Women and children first, I see...NOT!

How desperate and ignorant does one have to be to "loot" scrap metal?

They will rip apart their infrastructure to gain a few shekels.

It's like the greenhouses all over again.

But seriously, to whom are they selling this scrap metal? Is there an "Achmed's Gaza Recycling Center and Bomb Workshop" somewhere?

P/L

Long time no see, sensei!

Next time I wind up in Kotegashi, I'll think of you lol!

I move we take up a collection to fly them all out to Jordan or Egypt.

JUST what Israel needs: "FATAH loyalists."

/*spit*

A few comments here are hoping isn't letting them in. Well, they are. Some of them. THe ones affiliated with Fatah and their families and they are letting them cross over to the West Bank, although the reports haven't mentioned if it is an escorted transfer. Woops, can't use that word.

#25 littleoldlady -- Nope. Those are the scared ones. The sane ones left a long time ago.

You're probably right, at least for most of them. In any case, they're no friends of mine, or Israel's.

Maybe this was all part of Sharon's grand plan, to prove to the world that the Philistines can never govern themselves. Too bad a cerebral hemmorhage put the Israeli equivalent of John Kerry in charge...

"Maybe we will be safe with the Joooz!"

/splodeydope simulator off/

#30 zombie

But seriously, to whom are they selling this scrap metal? Is there an "Achmed's Gaza Recycling Center and Bomb Workshop" somewhere?

Probably. Qassam rockets dont grow on trees, you know?

Great photo.

Canada is famous for liberal immigration policies. Maybe they could establish a New Palestine in the Yukon or NWT.

#4 Perplexed:

This upcoming blood bath will rival anything that either Stalin or Mao produced.

Happily, there simply aren't enough Palestinians for this to happen. Can someone say Sabra and Shatilla, tough? Another slaughter by non-Israelis that Israelis will eventually be blamed for.

Other possible parallels:

Damour (haven't heard of Damour? It was only Muslims slaughtering Christians, so no big deal)

Or possibly Hama ... Because you can't spell Hamas without Hama.

i wouldn't trust any of these rop'ers coming in

Zombie, which name was selected in your "Birth of Hamastan" poll the other day? Is it too late to write in a vote for Justanotherstinkingislamicshitholeistan?

New entry for Nekama's Troll hammer.

Where to the Palistenians go when things go to shit.

ISRAEL.

Not Syria.
Not Jordan.
Not Lebanon.
Not Eygpt.

ISRAEL.

Do they go to their brother Arabs for sancturary?

No.

Do they have the ability to maintain order?

No.

They run, run to the only safe place for an Arab in the Middle East.

ISRAEL.

30

Zombie...that's too funny

#6 DesertSage -
The Palistain Pole dance?

Are there truly NO Palestinians with two brain cells that operate on common sense?

Maybe Israel should free all of the Fatah loyalists that it is holding and guarding and feeding ... into Gaza ... and maybe think about releasing Hamas loyalists ... into the West Bank ... solves several problems.

Even Michael Medved, who has become an insufferable bleeding heart lately re amnesty for illegal aliens, advocates that only other Arab countries should take in Gaza political refugees.

Whew! For a few minutes during his show the other day, I thought he was going to argue for allowing them into the U.S.!

With this administration, I wouldn't half put it past the State Department to offer.

1 minute left in qualifying, Lewis Hamilton, my man in the McLaren Mercedes, is on the provisional pole for tomorrow's USGP

40 Jheka

Impossible in numbers, but if you look at the percentage of the population affected I think it likely.

Jheka, this is only just the beginning. I predict that it will spread to Jordan, Egypt, Syria, the evil house of Saud, Libya, etc. Eventually the west will be forced to put it down and when it does the casualties will be in the hundreds of millions.

Philistines thy name is irony...

Assad’s Way Of Playing Chess.. Cox & Forkum. Brilliant.

I mentioned Michael Medved the previous thread.

What are the odds...

I'll give Hannity credit, he was a straight Bush/GOP shill, but even he seems to have figured out Bush isn't a conservative.

Meanwhile, Michael Medved, who I really enjoy listening to, seems to have drunk the Bush-Kennedy Amnesty Bill Kool-Aid, and when people call to disagree, he used very disinenuosu arguments like 80% of Americans want immigration reform (we do, but lets secure the border first, then figure out what to do with Harry Reid's "undocumented Americans"), or that we can't just deport 12 million people, or it isn't amnesty because to get citizenship back taxes and a fine have to be paid. No mention that those that don't choose ciizenship get permanent residency and full entitlement to welfare without paying any fees or taxes, or that the Bush-Kennedy supporters killed amendments to keep a wide class of felons and drunk drivers from getting amnesty.

#42 Trumanite

Zombie, which name was selected in your "Birth of Hamastan" poll the other day? Is it too late to write in a vote for Justanotherstinkingislamicshitholeistan?

Actually, the winning name was "Hell" -- by a wide margin.

I think those people running to Israel would agree with me.

The runners-up were, in order:

Hamastan
Taliban-by-the-Sea
The Gaza Tip

The two McLaren Merceds will lead the two Ferraris in tomorrow's USGP. Hamilton on the pole!

Must read column,

Iran's Victory
By Noah Pollak

"The era of justice and Islamic rule has arrived."
-Islam Shahawan, Hamas spokesman

Gaza has fallen to Hamas, but not just to Hamas: the group is the newest member of Iran’s growing portfolio of allies, clients, and proxies, and thus its victory was also a triumph for Iran’s policy of manifest destiny in the Middle East.

Read. The. Whole. Thing.

#24 NoSubmission
Soon the reports of "bombers" force the closing of the border

...err...
I mean
"Israel closes the border"

Make them denounce on film that Islam is the religion of the devil... OK now you can come in.

27

wow! I haven't been deleted in years! good to know I'm still on my game (beams with pride)...

39 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Canada is famous for liberal immigration policies. Maybe they could establish a New Palestine in the Yukon or NWT.

Not enough sand.

#51 perplexed,and when it does happen we can't have a hand wringing cowardly lib dope in the white house

#61 paxnhymn

Why? What did you say?;-)

And when Mexico hands itself over to Chavez sponsorship as a handy way of spitting in America's eye, we'll see the same thing on our southern border. (Well, we already do, but . . .)

/broken record mode off

So anyone figured out ? what really that "Far RIght" person in Picture is upto...

59 ploome

Secretary Rice was asked to push Israel to disclose the locations of cluster bombs it dropped last summer so that a clean-up process can begin.

Clean-up for whom? Not for the residents--that would've been done already. No. It's so that no Hizballah will get killed/wounded in this summer's war against Israel.

64 Roger
I made a reference to the Paleos stance in the evolutionary chain and that recent activities supported that but i won't go further, because of all the mouthy old timers, I have managed to moderate myself to keep from being booted, although I kinda think it's like whistlin' past the graveyard to do so...

#15 Mandymanners

" Of course they were looting! What else do they have to do when there's not a car to swarm?"

I believe they also spend alot of time applying for green cards

#66 humanity

What? You never seen a Pole Dance?

Whoops--- now added to Israel's problems a flow of illegals.

#68 paxnhymn, lol, I wasn't expecting an explanation; two deletes in series on one thread is not healthy:-)

...

So now there is going to be a real tent-based refugee camp on the Israeli side of the border? Left there to fester against Hamas?

From Hot Air...
Atheists and Agnostics Take Aim at Christians

One of the most fascinating insights from the research is the increasing size of the no-faith segment with each successive generation. The proportion of atheists and agnostics increases from 6% of Elders (ages 61+) and 9% of Boomers (ages 42-60), to 14% of Busters (23-41) and 19% of adult Mosaics (18-22). When adjusted for age and compared to 15 years ago, each generation has changed surprisingly little over the past decade and a half. Each new generation entered adulthood with a certain degree of secular fervor, which appears to stay relatively constant within that generation over time. This contradicts the popular notion that such generational differences are simply a product of people becoming more faith-oriented as they age.

The creeping scourge of atheism. Bwaahahaha!

#71 perkypauly

Whoa there! Remember, they're not illegal immigrants. They are undocumented Democrats workers

63 nyc redneck, we will be forced to do it regardless of which party is in power at the time.

#66,humanity, clearly he thinks he's auditioning for a bruce lee movie. look at that scissor kick

#74 Killgore Trout

Oh creeping scourge! Count your breathes; last one and you cease to exist.

/:-)

these paleys will only do the jobs Israelis want do :)

#6 DesertSage 6/16/2007 10:38:38 am PDT

I'm trying to figure out what the guy on the far right of the picture is doing?

Maybe he used to be with the Fatah Security Forces?

#78 Roger
Or maybe I'll be reincarnated as a Christian.
;)

BANGKOK (AFP) - Thousands of supporters of ousted Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra braved rainy skies and heavy security late Saturday to protest against the junta that deposed him.

The demonstration came a day after Thaksin addressed crowds in a recorded speech from London, urging the junta to push ahead with elections set for December and calling for reconciliation after months of political turmoil.

Police said about 10,000 people filled a plaza in central Bangkok, where they chanted "Fight, Thaksin, fight" under a giant banner reading "Democracy now."

Protesters also held signs reading "Junta out" and carried pictures of Thaksin.

The size of the crowd was rivalled by the security force, with more than 10,000 police mobilised for the protest and another 13,000 soldiers on standby in case of any violence, officials said.

MORE.

#14 littleoldlady 6/16/2007 10:42:39 am PDT

and at one point Israeli troops fired in the air to keep the crowd at bay

"...killing tens of scores of 'Palestinian' 5 year olds in the process."

- Al-Reuters

/...it's only a matter of time, sigh

I hope Israel isn't letting them IN!

Of course the Jews will let them in, little old lady~!

They are the moral representation of God, (I mean the True & Living God...not that pagan Bablyonian moon-god 'Allah'), to the world. And that God is Someone who is loving, merciful and kind to His enemies...

The Palis will then stab the Jews in the back again.

~Norsk Troll

I m just wondering... why there is very less coverage in Global and Asian 'Media about this whole... I mean the same Media want to utilize every instance of demonizing Israel for securing its citizen.. but now every Media agency is just fully silent.

Maybe we should let them immigrate into the US of A. We need more cheap labor.

:-)

#72 ploome hineni

if you like the islamic agenda , increase muslim immigration to the USA

How else could the msm and academia's predictions of coming terrorist activities to the USA, come about?

#76 perplexed, hope so, but what's frightening is ie. the silky pony's 1ooo panty " waste "peace libs

Even Michael Medved, who has become an insufferable bleeding heart lately re amnesty for illegal aliens, advocates that only other Arab countries should take in Gaza political refugees.

Uhhh...wasn't there an opportunity for that to happen for, oh, the last 60 fucking years? Why would "other Arab countries" suddenly change their minds and decide that they like Palestinians?

#30 zombie 6/16/2007 10:51:11 am PDT

How desperate and ignorant does one have to be to "loot" scrap metal?

They will rip apart their infrastructure to gain a few shekels.

It's like the greenhouses all over again.

But seriously, to whom are they selling this scrap metal? Is there an "Achmed's Gaza Recycling Center and Bomb Workshop" somewhere?

You are screamingly funny, Zombie.

I've always enjoyed your humor here at LGF.

Three cheers for Zombie, everyone!

Hip, hip..."Hurray"!

Hip, hip..."Hurray"!

Hip, hip..."Hurray"!

~Norsk Troll

mour (haven't heard of Damour? It was only Muslims slaughtering Christians, so no big deal)

Nice read there, including:

Two days later, Palestinian militias retaliated in Damour, a Lebanese Christian town 12 miles south of Beirut, close to the home of Camille Chamoun. Most of the inhabitants managed to flee during the assault, but a number stayed behind as the Palestinian forces seized control of the town. The attackers destroyed the buildings in the seaside village systematically and then took revenge on the remaining Christian inhabitants. The Christian cemetery was destroyed, coffins dug up, the dead robbed, vaults opened, and bodies and skeletons thrown across the graveyard. The church was burnt and an outside wall was covered with a mural of Fatah guerrillas holding AK47 rifles.

So, please spare your tears if one of these nice Fatah lads has his head stomped into pulp on a previous thread. Boo fucking hoo.

#81 Killgore Trout

Sorry:-), we all come into this world as narcissists, bohemians and hedonists. Following Christ is a choice. An atheist gets exactly what they want, oblivion. Voluntarily just a physical part of a trash pile in the Valley of Hinnon.

OT:
Jimmah Cahtah has a great idea...
/ what a schmuck...

Gotta tell ya, I'm surprised it took this long for Gaza to break down this badly. It's always been the civil war watch since Israel left, but this utter and complete breakdown I was calling for six months after the withdrawal.

I feel bad for the Palestinians sometimes, then I remember that they're reaping what they've sown. They glorified brutal terrorist groups, they allowed their children to blow themselves up in the name of Allah, they've "elected" people like Hamas to represent them. But there is no effort whatsoever to change or to better themselves. This is the result of their "resistance."

I too hope Israel won't let the Palestinians seek refuge in their borders. But the Israelis are often too nice for their own good. And in a really wierd way, that's why I admire them so.

Remember history? Remember the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand? This guy was a nothing up until he got killed. The sides rallied around his death and began a slug-fest that killed millions. We've got front row seats on the next world war unless we act decisively. Sad, but we've no leaders who are capable of acting decisively. We do have leaders who would act out of fear though.

USA needs to build the border fense and put a stop to all iSLamic immigration. Of course, that will not happen, even after a major US city fries. Bush is making it plain, that our own government is to be feared. just saying...

The Fartah - Hamass Agreement:

Based on the noble initiative announced by... King Abdallah Bin-Abd-al-Aziz, king of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia... Palestinian dialogues of accord and agreement were held in holy Mecca between Fatah and HAMAS... 6-8 February 2007. And with God's help, these dialogues achieved success, as agreement was reached on the following:

First, stressing the sanctity of Palestinian blood and taking all steps to prevent bloodshed.
It is God who grants success.

I'm pretty happy with what God is allowing now, in regard to these.

#89 EtNorskTroll

Zombie is Funny. The subject is Funny, and not. It is a huge problem in the Mid East.

I mentioned before I grew up in Iran. The Shah had the "White Revolution." This included major agricultural reforms, he ended the tenant farmer system, by removing the large land owners and giving each farmer what he could farm. Farming was by hand with ox pulled wooden plow.

He also set up each village with shared equipment, tractors and implements, water pumps etc... However the old "commons problem" of collectivism reared it's head. Individuals instead of using the tools to improve yield would take parts off the stuff and sell it in town for an immediate profit.

I've heard similiar stories from everywhere in the 3rd world.

#92 Atman

Dhimmi and Moaists... a match made in hell.

#91 Roger
You're really weird lately. Are you feeling ok?

#30 zombie 6/16/2007 10:51:11 am PDT
How desperate and ignorant does one have to be to "loot" scrap metal?

They will rip apart their infrastructure to gain a few shekels.

It's like the greenhouses all over again.

But seriously, to whom are they selling this scrap metal? Is there an "Achmed's Gaza Recycling Center and Bomb Workshop" somewhere?

That's what caught my eye too. People who loot scrap metal in my neck of the woods are invariably drug addicts.

When I read this looting bit, I pictured someone sitting in the middle of the chaos, starving, a perfect target. But hey! he had a nice looted chair to sit in.

#99 Killgore Trout

I prefer being called peculiar:-)

#93 mjk
I know what you meant by feeling bad for them. I sorta did, but they voted for Ham-ass, they've been brainwashing their kids to be animals, even the mothers kill their own daughters. If this was a family that lived down the street the kids would be taken away from them.

#47 Jheka

I haven't seen you around here before, but, I like the way you think. :-)

#103 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Jheka's from way back.

#89 EtNorskTroll

The "hip" in hip, hip, hurray is a Latin acronym meaning "death to Israel."

There are no "Palestinians." There are only terrorists of one group or another and their related families.

Almost all of those terrorist groups are factions of Moslem Brotherhood.

===

When the PLO tried to overthrow the King of Jordan, the Kings Arab Legion responded by massacring the PLO in large numbers. PLO survivors swam the Jordan River into Israel to get away from their "Arab brothers."

BLACK
SEPTEMBER,
R

#43 jcm - Just thought you might want to put an asterisk into that post, to the effect that a MAJOR reason why the Pali's aren't running to:

Syria,
Jordan,
Lebanon or
Eygpt.
is because none of those countries will take them in. Jordan actually kicked most of them out of Jordan right after Jordan was founded in 1948.
The Palestinians are neither liked nor respected in the Arab world at all. If they were, Jordan not only would not have kicked out those they didn't use the Jordanian Legion to kill, and Egypt woudn't have put up a fence and military units to deter entry, but Jordan and Egypt (as well as Lebanon and Syria) would have offered them sufficient land for there to be a Palistinian homeland. The Arabs HATE the Palestinians. Period.

#75 simonml

Sorry bout that should have stated Undocumented Terrorists

I think we should send former President Jimmy Carter to Gaza to mediate a peace agreement between the two factions.

OT arafish had his home shrine hole looted by paleostines today. Link

What's with the monkey on the pole (upper right) in the picture?

If they do make the crossing, do not allow them to disburse into the general population. Hold them for rescue & internment by Jordan and/or Egypt. That is after all what the 'palestinians' are.. Jordyptians.

#73 Roger

So now there is going to be a real tent-based refugee camp on the Israeli side of the border? Left there to fester against Hamas?

Heh. House them in Siderot. Unfortunately, it wouldn't stop Hamas from shooting, and you know what would happen, there would be missiles launched *from* these tents back against Hamas, but also forward further into Israel.

I know that Israelis like to have peaceful relations when they can with many Palestinians, and that many Palestinians are victims from both sides, and that this leads to overly accomodating behavior by the Israelis that seems so mystifying from a distance. But one has to wonder if either side is ever going to learn anything at all.

8 zombie 6/16/2007 10:40:16 am PDT

Have the wages of appeasement ever been clearer?

When Israelis lived in Gaza, they had a thriving economy, one which employed thousands of Palestinians working in agriculture.

But NOOO, that was evil "occupation"!

So, to appease the dhimmis and the Islamists, Israel uprooted its residents.

FInally, Gaza was free and independent!

Except...

...From the very hour israel left, the place had gone straight to hell, culminating in a complete breakdown of society as of yesterday.

Apparently making money is evil to islamists unless they are getting it to carry out Mo's calling. Of course that is what controlling oppression is all about...keep the general population poor and scared.

#109 MJazzGuitar
Can't, he's busy...

Send the refugees to their brethren in Lebanon.

#72 ploome hineni

One should not equate "Middle Easterers" with Muslims. A large percentage of these Middle Eastern immigrants are Christians fleeing persecution in the West Bank, Lebanon, Iraq & Egypt. That said, the door should be closed to members of the ROP, but that would be difficult to do so within the limits imposed by the US Constitution.

They could take lessons from sheriff Joe in dealing with detainees:

1) pink underwear
2) old food stuffs - enough to keep you alive but you won't grow to ever like it.
3) tents out in the desert Negev (sp?) prehaps?
4) Enough resources to keep them living in unpleasant circumstances
5) Dusk to dawn curfew. Violators get sent back.

#66 humanity

So anyone figured out ? what really that "Far RIght" person in Picture is upto...

I suspect he wants to bypass a checkpoint or two, via the roof structures. And maybe if he keeps his eyes closed, his shadow won't be noticed.

"Palestine" is having another poo-nami.

How long will it take these needy neanderthals to claim that Israel and the Jews have mistreated them upon their crossing of the border?

/had enough of this shit.

but that would be difficult to do so within the limits imposed by the US Constitution.

We've banned 'religions' before and will be forced to do so again.

#116 Kenneth
America's unofficial policy should be to let as many of the Christian ones in as possible, to offset the lunar ticks that are here already.

120 Perplexed
When did we do this?

#116 Kenneth

That darned bad Constitution again! We have to let the country deteriorate just because of the Constitution. We have to give our children a lowsy future because of the Constitution. Not.

Ghost Dancers for one.

#114 Atman
Which brings to mind, why aren't there demonstrations against China's occupation of Tibet?

Any word on what Israel is doing with these savages once they cross over? Are they keeping tabs on them or just allowing them to roam free into sacred territory to kill the innocent? Will Israel protect her citizens from the onslaught of neanderthals? Will they roam free and wild as they do in 'palestine'?

Also, is there any semblence of regret from these beasts regarding their free and fair election of Hamas as their 'governing' leaders? Where is Dhimmi Carter? Nancy? Reid? Dirty Harry? Comments from the left, please?

/Channeling Carl in Jerusalem. Carl, please report to Lizard Headquarters.

Good grief:

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

#117 Perplexed
Then the world would complain about how bad the conditions were for the refugees under "occupation."

#105 American Jewess In Jerusalem 6/16/2007 11:49:10 am PDT

#89 EtNorskTroll

The "hip" in hip, hip, hurray is a Latin acronym meaning "death to Israel."

Nah...can't be, Jewess.

You're puttin' me on, right? (Puttin'...? There's got to be a joke in there somewhere...)

Do you have a source, Wiki or otherwise I could look at?

~Norsk Troll

#103 American Jewess In Jerusalem:

Thanks for the welcome!

I hope that I can fit in and contribute.

Bad conditions?

Food? Check
Water? Check
Shelter? Check

All the comforts of home.

lol!

#130 Jheka

I hope that I can fit in and contribute.

/ you're bad...

#125 MJazzGuitar
Uhhh, maybe 'cause there aren't many Tibetans in Tibet...
Seriously, China is very brutal in Tibet, so it won't happen there. The free Tibet movement hasn't garnered the support from the U.S. because of business between China and the U.S..

#129 Et Norsk Troll

"ETN" -

To the best of my recollection, "Hip" is an Anglo corruption of "Hep" which in Latin are the first three letters of "Jerusalem Is Destroyed (or "Defeated")" and was used as a cheer when the Roman Army came home for its Victory Parade in Rome after destroying the Second Temple.

-S-

Do to them as you did to Midian, as you did to Sisera and Jabin at the river Kishon, who perished at Endor and became like refuse on the ground.

Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb, all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna, who said, "Let us take possession of the pasturelands of God."

Make them like tumbleweed, O my God, like chaff before the wind.

As fire consumes the forest or a flame sets the mountains ablaze, so pursue them with your tempest and terrify them with your storm.

Cover their faces with shame so that men will seek your name, O LORD.

May they ever be ashamed and dismayed; may they perish in disgrace.

Let them know that you, whose name is the LORD— that you alone are the Most High over all the earth.

From Psalm 83.

I saw a picture in the Dallas Morning News today (I was at the tire store having a set of tires put on the minivan) of a PA administraive building with smoke pouring out of the windows, and a kid carrying off a window (glass with frame). I thought, "Well, that just figures. Animals."

I wonder how these militants got their hands on these M-16's

#135 Dr. Shalit

This page says that is a bit fanciful. I don't know - just looking around.

American Jewess and Norsktroll

Are we talking about "HEP" (Hierosalema est perdita) rahter than "hip". HEP I would agree to, but not HIP.

A Prayer for Israel

#126 Allah al Fubar 6/16/2007 12:21:33 pm PDT

Any word on what Israel is doing with these savages once they cross over?

As of this morning, via the AFP:

All crossings into the Gaza Strip have been closed indefinitely after Islamist group Hamas seized full control of the territory, the Israeli army said on Friday.

"The crossings are closed until further notice. There are constantly security assessments," an army spokesperson said.

Both the Erez crossing to Israel and the Rafah border terminal with Egypt are currently shut down. So currently, they made the bed, they are lying in it, and mommy won't change the sheets.

Obviously, the guy climbing the pole on the right side of the picture, is STEALING PIPE. You can see his collection on the ground, too.

Shows ya, ya can SEE someone in the act of looting, and not recognize it for what it is.

While, I just don't trust Bush. The whole families been imbedded in both the House of Saud, AND in the CIA. And, Dubya, from his White House perch just dropped $60-million in new munitions, into gazoo.

I know. I know. It's been taken over by the religious zealots. Of course, you should recognize the hand of the HOUSE OF SAUD! Since the religious fanatics in GAZOO come already blessed by Riyadh.

Everything the arabs do, and they do it in broad daylight, is designed to fool your eyes.

make sure the palis go back ffs

"Blessed is he who spendeth his taxpayer money so the truly peaceful believers can cleanse their soul (and land)."

Living in a country that financally 'supports' them is bad enough, having a foreign affairs minister that would surely love to take in another shipload of them as 'refugees' is even worse.

Where's the USS Iowa and USS New Jersey when it comes to pure problem-solving power? They did a great job back in 84 in Lebanon, don't ya think?

#144 Carol Herman

"CH" -

Are you the same person that posts on Captain's Quarters with a slightly different spelling.
If you are "WELCOME ABOARD!"

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144 Carol Herman
Even if it was meant for Fatah, I believe that organization's charter still calls for the destruction of Israel.
As for the 60 million, I like ( not! ) how the government spends our hard earned dollars. When do we as Americans get to say how we want our money spent?

#146 Mousseman

They did a great job after RWR was presented with a fait accompli by Casper Weinberger and couldn't retaliate on the ground!

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#148 mjazzguitar

"mj" -

It's like deja vu all over again. In the North Africa campaign in 1942 I am SURE some $ changed hands to bring Admiral Darlan over to our side. Sometimes it stinks as bad as a sewer recycling plant. Hold your nose and do it or don't and loose many more soldiers. It's a rotten choice for sure, but one that has to be made at times.

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139 ploome hineni
from the link:
As I write, fresh news arrives—evidence of the fulfillment of one martyr’s hope. An Israeli doctor and his twenty-year-old daughter have this day been blown up together in a café, where they had gone for a father-daughter talk on the eve of the young woman’s marriage. She had been devoting her year of national service to the care of children with cancer; her ambition was to study medicine for the sake of such children. Her father was an eminent and remarkable physician, the tireless head of a hospital emergency room which tends the victims of terror attacks. He had just returned from the United States, where he was instructing American doctors in the life-saving emergency techniques he had pioneered. Father and daughter were buried on what was to have been the daughter’s wedding day.

#151 Dr. Shalit
Comparable to voting nowadays.

#149 ploome hineni
I wonder if that Islamic organization would ask them to convert.

To be precise:
Fatah's Constitution, like that of Hamas, calls to this very day for the destruction of Israel and the eradication of Jewish national existence (Article 12), and for the use of terrorism as an indispensable part of the struggle for that goal (Article 19).

#138 BobbyKeith

It's called Olso, Clintion's attempt at recreating Camp David and getting his own little bauble in Stockolm.

Part of Olso was Arafish said he could control the terrorists, but the terrorist had weapons. And the poor oppressed Palistinians couldn't get weapons because Israel and US wouldn't let them have arms.

We said that sound resonable, let's arm a Palistinian Security Force to keep the peace in Gaza and the West Bank, once the Pali's can keep the peace the IDF can pull out.

We are the Security Forces, the IDF pulls and out and whatta' you get?

CIVIL WAR

Turn around, you dufusses.

Egypt is the other way! That's where you want to go!

#153 mjazzguitar

"mj" -

We both obviously need Cheap Clothes Pins to get through life as it exists. If its any consolation - remember the words I heard on the late great Barry Farber Show. "Hipocracy" - the tribute that VICE pays to VIRTUE.

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#157 ploomie hinene

"pm" -

Why should ISLAMISTS care abut Dr. Applebaum - the have Dr. Zawahiri - acclaimed Pediatrician amongst their ranks.

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#163 ploomie hineni

"ph" -

Thanks for setting me straight on the quote,
though I would prefer that Barry was the original source on this one.

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#156 JCM

Well these guys are obviously not "security forces" otherwise they wouldnt be wearing masks over their faces. I guess this goes to show that Clinton funded and supplied terrorism as there seems to be no lines between who is security and who is al aqsa martyrs brigade.

Also see: Will Media Report Palestinians Fleeing Gaza For Israel?

Ah HA!
Fatah supporters flee Gaza as Abbas sets up new gov't

GAZA, June 16 (Reuters) - Hundreds of Fatah supporters fled the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip by land and sea on Saturday and the Islamist group threatened to take its fight against Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's forces to the West Bank. Palestinian families leave Gaza through the Erez crossing between Gaza and Israel, June 16, 2007.

Breaking: Egypt opens borders and mounts all out rescue effort for Gaza refugees / NOT

If anything, the gaz/west bank split proves the lie that there is any such thing as a palestinain nationanlity. The gazans are of the same ethnic mix and closer in all essential ways to the egyptians, and the west bankers an amalgam of west asian arabs.

Its quite funny the way the arab league is panicking and trying ot get them to reconsitute theri 'palestinian' nationality.

The genocidal anti-Jewsih weapon they created has fallen apart, and they want it back together again, asap.

The danger now is that the trojan horse that is fatah will get all the bucks and int'l support, create a statelet of sorts on the 'west bank', prove non-viable in the fullness of time, and then seek, with pressure from that very same int'l community, fedetation with Israel as a single state.

'They have proven they are peaceful, and they are no danger to you. Besides, an stae based on a single religion is unfiar, and anachronistic, perhaps even 'racist'. Come on, Israel, federate!' the belgians and Norwegians and Jimmy Carter will say, and the State Dept will agree, and that will be the beginning of the death spiral of Israel. Without a bang, and the 4th largest nuclear arsenal in the world will be useless.

Now is the time to let Abbas and fatah twist in the wind. let the west bank fall apart, and let the same running arabs head to the Jordanian border.

I'm dreaming. Nothing of the sort will happen, unfortunately. Peres and Olmert will see 'opportunities' here to advance the 'peace process'.

By providing sanctuary, Israel is FURTHER humiliating the Arabs.

- How this will be interpreted by the international left and paleo right.

Maine's Michael,

I'm dreaming. Nothing of the sort will happen, unfortunately. Peres and Olmert will see 'opportunities' here to advance the 'peace process'.

Honey,

You're just not dreaming BIG enough.

Hamas still has a good chance to make mincemeat out of Fatah in the West Bank. (Obviously, superior numbers and arms don't do much good when your training consists of jumping through hoops of fire...)

There's going to be another war up north, so Olmert and Peres will be a tad too distracted to "make peace" with anyone.

And speaking of Olmert and Peres...they'll be tarred and feathered and forceably flown out of Ben Gurion to live in Switzerland by an enraged Israeli public.

/okay, the last one was ME dreaming.

Waiting for muslims to realize that Israel is not their enemy.And CAIR is not their friend.

By the look of this particular photo it seems like every Fatah wiseguy knows when the getting is good.

nose?

Why yes, I DO have a nose. ;-)

plooome!

Fleeing to the West! So what else is new. The Muslims and other peoples, have been fleeing to Europe and America for last 100 years.Rather than stand up to their own oppressers. Africans fleed their own countries and went to South Africa (The West).I think only two tribes had orginal roots there.
Hmmm! Has This has end well for Europe or S.Africa? America hs dodged the bullet for now.
Watch out Israel , your compassion will be repaid with a knife at your throat.

Egypt closed Rafah with waterhoses and guns- but that is okay because they are loving Arab brothers. Like lynching people, throwing them off buildings, killing people marching for peace, executing people who have surrendered, looting- That is all much more forgiveable than Israel having checkpoints and reviewing who they let in. Just like the same things are so much worse than a Belgian Malinois barking at a prisoner. In fact, my neighbor's lab was barking at me just now- I am calling the HRC, HRW, Amnesty and KOS. =

So will these refugees from the official Refugee Camp ever be granted a right of return so that they can go back to demanding a Right of Return?

"The time has come which was foretold, when the people would ask for bread and be given corpses"

Madame Roland (during the Reign of Terror).

#7If all this wasn't so tragic, it would be funny.

ZG

Sorry, I'm not seeing the tragedy. Enjoy. This can only get better.

One minute, screaming "Kill the Jews."
The next, fleeing to them for sanctuary.
The madness never ends.

#178 - karmic_inquisitor
"So will these refugees from the official Refugee Camp ever be granted a right of return so that they can go back to demanding a Right of Return?"

Of course they'll go back to that Islamic paradise and demand the "right to return" from the Jooos. I mean, the Joos have been persecuting and humiliating the Palestinians for years and years and years.

The Islamic Paradise that has been set up in Gaza is wonderful - great healthcare (when you get transferred to Israel for Jew doctors to care for you), education by Mickey Mouse, a quick and painless death (by being thrown off a building). We in the Western World should only be so lucky.

(do I need to include the sarcasm thingie?)

Seriously love the question - nice and confusing as all questions about the Middle East are.

#141 Grumpy

Obviously, "hip" is "hep" -- it is simply a matter of pronunciation, and pronunciation then influenced the later written form. No Jew or Israel supporter should ever use "hip hip hurray."

I don't think I've ever said "Hip, Hip, Hurray!" in my entire 55 years on this planet. In my circles, such an expression would be considered hopelessly hokey.

Nonetheless, if HEP stood for some Roman insult to the Jews, its meaning has long since been lost in modern usage. Still, let the term be forgotten.

But "hip" being insulting because it sounds similar to HEP? I don't think so. No offense to tender sensibilities, but it's possible to be too tender.

Does anyone else see the irony in murderstinians fleeing to Israel for protection..