"Phanton Chaser" - that's tougher than being a Ghostbuster.

He can join Clinton in the "useless former head of state" category.

I wish him luck, but not exactly a sinecure!

Create a Palestinian state? I thought Hamas had already done that.

Actually, as I was just reminded of today -- I thought the British had already done that in 1948 when they created Jordan, which is the Palestinian state.

Of course if he is honest, he will wind up telling everyone that the Arabs do not want not do they deserve a state. Otherwise he will be forced to flack for the terrorists.

Create a Palestinian state? I thought Hamas had already done that.

It doesn't count unless Israel is annihilated in the process.

/Jimmy Carter

From "cool Britania" to what exactly?

I wish the Former PM luck and advise him to NEVER, EVER set up a meeting in PA territory, he's too big a fish for someone not to try to "hook" him.

What's the pay like?

As much as I like Blair, I don't think he's going to convince Hamas to renounce Jew hatred.

Hate to be a purveyor of doom, he won't have the security of a traveling PM and he'll be traveling through the middle east and they'll kill him. Tony, stay in Londonistan and turn it back into merry old London.

Tony Blair has ruined his country more in ten years than any other person has done in British history. Now he wants to ruin something else.

Statement from the Vatican:
Pope Has "Frank" Conversation with Tony Blair

Vatican, Jun. 25, 2007 (CWNews.com) -

During a June 23 audience with outgoing British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Pope Benedict XVI some candid criticism of the British leader's term in office.

After the Pope's meeting with Blair-- who was accompanied to the Vatican by his wife Cherie and by Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor of Westminster-- the Vatican press office indicated that the conversation had included a "frank discussion of the international situation, including certain particularly delicate questions such as the conflict in the Middle East and the future of the European Union in the wake of the Brussels summit."

London media reports indicated that the Pope had been critical of the British leader's stands on the war in Iraq, stem-cell research, and legal recognition of same-sex unions.

The indications of an unusually blunt conversation between the Pope and the Prime Minister took on special interest in light of the persistent speculation that Blair plans to enter the Catholic Church after resigning his government leadership post. However there was no public indication that the topic of Blair's possible conversion was raised directly during the June 23 audience.

Pope Benedict offered his best wishes to the outgoing leader, the Vatican said, noting with satisfaction that Blair has shown an interest in continuing to work as in the international arena. The Vatican statement noted that Blair has shown a special interest in working for peace in the Middle East and in promoting inter-religious dialogue.

Create a Palestinian state?

Blair has stated many times that peace in the ME is dependent on Palestine and Israel making peace.

Of course that statement in and of itself is a shanda, an immoral bankruptcy because it puts greater pressure not to mention blame on the evil occupiers who already have been made into pariah's. It is a just another manufactured lie (for the good of the bad guys and their appeasers) which most people believe to be true. And what does that tell you? Lies stick. Soon so many will be told no one will ever know truth...

ME envoy, US led quartet for peace made up of EU, UN and Russia, all quite serious about further bs-ing the palestinians all the way to statehood while at the same time without a care in the world, knifing Israel firmly in the back.

Tony Blair is a good man who deserves better then a fruitless job of trying to get the Arabs to act civilized. Talk about futility!

4 zombie 6/27/2007 11:46:49 am PDT

Create a Palestinian state? I thought Hamas had already done that.
Actually, as I was just reminded of today -- I thought the British had already done that in 1948 when they created Jordan, which is the Palestinian state.

The facts are even worse:

The British promised all of mandate Palestine as a homeland for the Jews.

A big chunk of Palestine, Transjordan, was given to the Arabs in 1921 on the condition (demanded by the Arabs) that no Jews be allowed to settle there.

Look at a map. Most of Palestine was given to the Arabs in 1921. Then they demanded all of the rest, and refused to allow Jews their right to self-determination in the areas where Jews were more than 66% of the population.

Today, the "Palestinians" control 75% of Palestine and are demanding more, pretending that they have nothing, which is a Big Fat Lie.

The Palis already have a state, chaos.

The "Palestinians" clearly do not want an independent Palestine (the Syrians would never allow one). What they want is to annihilate the Jewish state, that is all.

#zombie

Actually, as I was just reminded of today -- I thought the British had already done that in 1948 when they created Jordan, which is the Palestinian state.

Transjordan was established in 1923.

Just what I need - a Tony on my tail.

Is being a "phantom chaser" as cool as being a "ghost buster"?

Look! Sheets, too! Kinda' like bare-armed burkhas.

19 Spiritualized
Actually "Transjordan"was created by the Colonial Secretary Winston Churchill as a consolation prize to the Hashemite King Abdullah who lost out in the power struggle in Arabia.

20 phantom

LOL! Better a Tony on your tail than a tiger in yer tank.

Blair Appointed New Phantom Chaser

I'm thinking more "Scooby-Doo" than "Ghostbusters".

a 'state' of what?
confusiom
panic
euphoria

Dang I'm confused.

Tony's left wing wife Cherie ("Poverty and despair causes suicide bombing") Blair will now that she is no longer living in 10 Downing Street, start reverting to her loony left roots.

Tony Blair should remain MP for his Sedgefield constituency, rather than taking an impossible appointment as a 'Peace Envoy'. He would be an honourable MP, but what good could possibly come from negotiating with those to whom lies are a permitted divinely-sanctioned tactic?

Forget it , Tony

As if they listened to him when he actually had any power.

Now?

We now know that hysterical laughter was the cause of today's "work accident."

Tony's left wing wife Cherie (I understand why a Palestinian would want to become a suicide bomber...)

29 Ben-Hur
See my post #26. Cherie Blair makes Hilary Clinton seem conservative.

Tony's first day

Joel

Unfortunately, I am well aware of her comments.

The other Big Fat Lie is that the "Palestinians" were kicked off their land to create modern Israel.

Read Mark Twain's Innocents Abroad. It's about Twain's trip to the Holy Land in the late 19th century--prior to the rise of the modern Zionist movement.

Twain reported that the area was almost totally uninhabited with the exception of Jerusalem.

The truth is that the Arabs immigrated to Palestine after the Zionists began building cities, establishing industry and agriculture, and creating jobs.

Combine that with the fact that the Arabs were given about 70% of Palestine in 1921 and offered half of the remainder... a generous offer they rejected, insisting that even the Jews' land belonged to them.

Really, this conflict is about how the Arabs failed to steal Israel from the Jews, and have been complaining ever since that they are the wronged party.

Sorry to OT everyone, but did I see back on one of the dead threads that GORE-Do is back? (gordon)

Say it isn't so

From "cool Britania" to what exactly?

Cool Britannia? You mean this? Or this?

The Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an oppotunity. They could have had this [Link: www.mideastweb.org...] as far back as 1947

Wow, Blair is supposedly coming into the Church? I had no idea. I don't know much about his personal beliefs (on abortion, for example), so I don't know how they'd square with the Church.

36 sattv4u2

The Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an oppotunity.

People who quote that are assuming that the Palis want a state of their own and their diplomatic clumsiness has prevented it. Actually the statement is false - the Palis are only interested in destroying Israel and they have taken every opportunity the foolish Israelis have offered them to do so (except Arafat's refusal to accept Barak's offer in 2000). The Palis have been quite consistent in their goals.

Dustoff
Yes, 'Tis true. Here's his comments from the last day or so.

Nodrog is Back

A Liberal breaking his word? Well, Fancy that !

#36 Joel
The basic premise of your post is very accurate. The Palis' #1 purpose is in fact to push Israel into the sea. However, that is the same goal of the Syrians and the Iranians ( and for a long time prior to that the Egyptians), and they are doing it from the relative comfort of their own states. The "Palis" could have, as far back as 1947, been doing the same things from their OWN STATE.

Blair: Mr. Olmert, the Palestinians have asked me to ask you to give them lots of your land, so they can kill the Jews and loot all the goodies.

Olmert: Sounds great!

Fjordman, you got in ahead of me.

What I was planning to say:
Tony Blair did more harm to England than any other single man since Willian the Bastard.

England recovered from Chamberlain, but it may never recover from Blair's willful destruction of its society and institutions.

And as his parting gift, he sold out British sovereignty to the European Union.

So he is very well qualified to be Conductor of the Quartet, and use his baton to bash in Israel.

And altogether, the Bush-Blair obsessino with saving the world via a State of Palestine has gone beyond cognitive dissonance to a sick obsession.

#34 Dustoff

Yup, he's back. Here's his latest comment.

The tagline on his profile now?

The Former Conscience of LGF

Don't know which Gordon is posting now, though.

#31- sorry, no red tablecloths on heads, no burning of flags or effigies, no IRB(tm) screaming- this could not be Blair's first day on the job in the ME.

O-my god... Gordon lived in Calif. The poor state will never be the same.

Thanks guys.

O-well, it's Gore-do smacking time.

#40 sattv4u2
I can't argue with that. Turning down Barak's crazy 2000 offer would have put them in a great position to existentially destroy Israel through terror war.

Since before 1948 the "World" has been attempting to "Create a Palestinian State".

Time, and time again we have realized that this dream is not possible. At every instance that the Phakestinians are offered a true, actual, and very real Palestinian State they reject it.

At what point do we understand this reality and work towards a realizable goal?

Create a Palistinian state? Come on! How many do they need? They already have two, 'Rage' and 'Full rage.'

AS THE MORONIC WORLD WORRIES ABOUT CREATING ANOTHER TERRORIST STATE. INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY DYING.

"Phantom Chaser?" The North Vietnamese & Syrians had MiG pilots with that job description. They didn't stay on the job long.

promoting inter-religious dialogue

From our side: blahblahblahblahblahpeaceblahblahdiscussionblahbla hblahblahcooperationblahblahfreedomblahblahblahdem ocracyblah

From their side:

bbaabbbaaaBLAM!

end of dialogue

#45 son-and-dance

From Prime Minister to Ghostbuster.

It's like going from feature film star to local cable access.

Kinda like the career of Ray Milland. From Academy Award winner to star of The Thing With Two Heads.

OT: Gordon Brown may be friendly towards Israel...?

>In Tony Blair, the community couldn't’t have had a better friend in the good and bad times. But Gordon Brown’s friendship was developed not in the context of a political project but in the DNA of his upbringing. His father was a Church of Scotland minister who studied Hebrew and developed a profound affection and respect for Israel through regular visits.

His empathy with the Jewish cause encouraged Gordon, as a young 12-year-old, to write an article in the parish magazine entitled “Persecution”, later described by Brown’s biographer, Paul Routledge, as a “paean of praise for the Jewish people”. Our future Prime Minister highlighted the positive contribution of so many Jews throughout the world and described persecution as the “pernicious eclipse under which the Jewish people have always existed”.

[Link: israelmatzav.blogspot.com...]

Legal Warden of Javier Solana.

A barber shop quartet has a better chance of success than a UN quartet.

54 kristina37
I am glad to read that about Gordon Brown, however the British Establishemnt is virulently anti Israel (and not so subtly anti Semitic as well) and let us not forget the Foreign Office.

Blair has been taken on the diplomatic equivalent of a snipe hunt.

The Anti-Terror Campaign That Succeeded

Wow, Olmert, Bush, Abbas, and now Blair. Talk about your Feckless Four, could be a summer blockbuster if you could get Jerry Bruckheimer to produce and that announcer guy to do the trailers.

Bonus fun with acronyms and words from above

ABBO - famous mixed race/religion kumbaya singing
quartet of soon to be former statesmen.

abob - (recipe) skewered principles roasted over an
effigy fire

boab - new speak femnazi revision of a former
derogatory word besmirching compentency or
charachter, ie "what a boab that guy is"; "he
is a total boab"

baob - Canadian spelling of above

Obba - focus group suggestion for Obama campaign
chant to be used at rallies and stump
speeches. "Obba, Obba, Obba"

Obab - Canadian spelling of above...what?

Must sleep

Here's what I posted (and they published) at JPOST:

And here we thought we were rid of this horse's ass.
Maine's Michael - usa
06/27/2007 21:19

He is no friend of Israel, despite his pseudo pious proclamations. He was the one to try and goad Bush into making the Palestinian issue the official 'root cause' of all the trouble in the muslim world. The problem here is that Blair and his ridiculous perspective will likely outlast the tenure of the inept Bush/RIce admin.

The UK has not been Israel's friend for years.

I didn't realize this until I read Melanie Phillip's 'Londonistan'. Quite an eye opener.

Prince Charles has never touched foot in Israel.

UK sponsored trips to the 'Middle East' spend their time completely under escort from Arab and Palestinian sponsors, never visit any Jewish sites, and lead to brainwashed Brit citizens when they come home.

As to the history of the territory that is now Israel and Jordan, I recently bought a book on WW I, published in 1918. The map of the area identified all of that region as 'Turkey', due no doubt, to the extent of the Ottoman Empire, at that time.

As others have said, it was a pretty desolate region until the Israelis started to create a nation, largely due to sheep herds denuding the region.

#59 Joel

I can see why this activity didn't make it to the history books. I particularly like this part:

It was understood among U.S. troops that they had a green light for applying frontier justice to terrorists, with no lawyers or trials. The counterinsurgency manual issued by the Supreme Headquarters Allied Expedition Force (SHAEF) recommended that troops simply ignore Geneva Convention rules when dealing with the Werwolf.

SHAEF instructions allowed using captive Germans in forced labor; seizure of German civilians as hostages; collective punishment; shooting of hostages; and massive bombings of civilian areas containing terrorists. Threats to shoot all curfew violators were commonly made. At Lutzkampen, Allied troops threatened to burn down the village if there were any violations of curfew.

When U.S. troops were attacked at Aschaffenburg in Lower Franconia, the entire town was annihilated by Seventh Army artillery. In the fall of 1945, well after the surrender, U.S. forces still regarded Werwolf bands as "one of the biggest potential threats to security in both the American and Allied Zones of Occupation."

Two points, I think that people haven't mentioned yet:

1) Why is he taking it on?
Does he think he can succeed where Clinton failed and ensure his place in history?
OR
Is it tied to his (new) Catholic faith?

2) I read that Putin was pulling his weight among the quartet and opposed Blair's appointment. So must have backed down.
That may be good news as he seems to favour Hamas and hence expects Blair not to fall for their tricks. The bad news is that a deal may have been cut that we don't know about.

#12 Fjordman

Tony Blair has ruined his country more in ten years than any other person has done in British history.

Looks like you already said it for me mate. 'Cool Britannia'...What a fucking joke.

It's so bloody apt that the Labour party logo is a red rose: Looks great on top, bunch of pricks underneath.

Job security baby! Job security!

Blair's appointment is a 'thank you' for becoming a Fwench poodle during the EU summit.

The there's his last gift to the Brits yesterday.

I used to have some respect for the guy, but he's gone as wobbly as Dubya.

For the sake of Israel, let's hope he's not in over his head more than Condi is.

When John Bolton starts backing away from the administration like he has, you know somethin's screwed up.

Sad, sad, sad.

#16 ibrodsky

The facts are even worse:

The British promised all of mandate Palestine as a homeland for the Jews.
which is a Big Fat Lie.

The big fat liar is you...as usual...

Balfour Declaration of 1917
Foreign Office,
November 2nd, 1917.

Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet:
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country".
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely
Arthur James Balfour

From Dore Gold

After the London Bombings:
Blair's Israeli-Palestinian Detour from the Real Root Causes of Terrorism.

Read it all

Blair is the engine behind Bush's abandonment of June 2002 Rose Garden speech, and his adopting of the "performace excusing road map"

I agree with Maine's Michael, this Blair has much mischeif yet to bring. Now that his full time job will be to needle and cajole Israel into suicidal concessions, and now that he has the backing of Olmert's master, Condi Rice, there is no stopping Tony from being the far more dangerous that Javier Solana.

Tony Blair, War Envoy

A lot of British backpackers make their way thru Israel. It never ceased to amaze me how they could lounge around Tel Aviv, drinking, partying and even working all the time bad mouthing Israel and the Jews. Truthfully.

Remember it was dear Tony that urged Bush to rekindle the "peace process". The Brits are rotten to the core when it comes to Israel.

#70 J. Lichty

Now that his full time job will be to needle and cajole Israel into suicidal concessions, and now that he has the backing of Olmert's master, Condi Rice, there is no stopping Tony from being the far more dangerous that Javier Solana.

You understand exactly what his role is going to be.

It isn't so difficult to empower the Palis, and even to have a Pali state. There is one already in the Gaza Strip, with Hamas in charge.

But 80% of the Palis have as their main goal the destruction of Israel. That means that empowerment of the Palis, to the extent that they have a state, will lead to a state that seeks to carry out the mandate of the Pali people: to get rid of Israel.

I say to Mr. Blair: Do not wish for and seek power for the Palis unless you know what they plan to do with that power.

Looks like Tony Blair is angling for a Nobel Peace Prize...

Phantom Chaser? Is the British Quidditch team looking for new players?

Poll: Most Palestinians favor Iran nuclear weapons
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

This should not come as a great shocker. The goal of 80% of Palis is to have Israel destroyed. So of course they want Iran to have nukes. That's how their goal can be achieved.

Well since the surrounding countries have refused to absorb the Palestinians and a "one state" solution is out of the question, what's to be done with them?

I say give Mr. Blair a chance. I don't see anyone else stepping up to the plate.

The first rule should be this: Don't make the situation worse.
There is a sequence that needs to be followed in order not to make the situation worse: first work on changing the attitude of 80% of the Palis who want to have Israel destroyed. Only after the Palis have been changed so that their goal is not the destruction of Israel does it make sense to empower them and provide a state. Because otherwise, the state that they have will be an irredentist state engaged in unending war against Israel.

Here is an article
[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

by Daniel Pipes that was written a week ago, before the Blair appointment. But it points out the important problem concerning the death-to-Israel attitude of 80% of the Palis. Without changing Pali attitudes, the efforts of the "peace processors" to get Israeli concessions will just shorten the time when Hamas controls the West Bank. Israeli concessions will not change Pali attitudes to be grateful to Israel. Israeli concessions will just be regarded as a sign of weakness, a victory of terrorism, and as opportunities for renewed warfare and terrorism. Just look at what happened when Israel ceded the Gaza Strip to Abbas, removing 8 or 9 thousand Jewish population, and removing its soldiers, and allowing the Palis to do what they wanted to do. They turned the Gaza Strip into a part of jihadistan.

The same thing will happen to the West Bank, if ignoring the Pali Authority's inciting of the Palis to hate and war continues.

It may be too late for the adults, but what about the children? The first step has to be that Pali children are not taught hatred and a death-cult mentality, and taught that Israel has no right to exist, is illegitimate and not permanent, and that the Pali children have to grow up to wage war against Israel.

But all that I foresee is more pressure on Israel to make concessions, with a Pali population that is rabidly seeking the death of Israel.

re #78
(Remember that this was written a week ago, before the Blair appointment, and is not necessarily a criticism of Mr. Blair)

Fatah's willingness to play a fraudulent diplomatic game has lured woolly-minded and gullible Westerners, including Israelis, to invest in it. The most recent folly was Washington's decision to listen to its security coordinator in the region, Lieutenant General Keith Dayton, and send Fatah $59 million in military aid to fight Hamas – a policy that proved even more bone-headed when Hamas promptly seized those shipments for its own use.

One of these days, maybe, the idiot-savant "peace processors" will note the trail of disasters their handiwork has achieved. Instead of mulishly working to return Fatah and Jerusalem to the bargaining table, they might try focusing on gaining a change of heart among the roughly 80 percent of Palestinians, those still seeking to undo the outcome of the 1948-49 war by defeating Zionism and constructing a 22nd Arab state atop Israel's carcass.

British and French Imperialism is what created the Gulag in the Middle east in Paris 1919 after WW1-- treating the Jews in Palestine like cattle and then departing after the Jews started a pay back for their hospitality leaving all their armaments and fortresses to the Arab Legions fully expecting the eradication of the Jewish State ---Blair and his pro Palestinian wife chosen as credible emissaries to this region is a travesty.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't some concessions already planned concerning the West Bank?

I see three options here:

1. Give the Palestinians a state (or two states, even), which seems to be the consensus of most sensible people.

2. Continue on as things are and hope that the Palestinians will teach their children to be more sensible (that could take generations).

3. Annex Gaza and the West Bank in their entirety once and for all and either absorb and give full citizenship to the Palestinians or kill them.

4. ?

So, Tony Blair will now go to work on Israel, after trashing Britain and stabbing her in the back on his way out the door.

[Link: www.melaniephillips.com...]

God, bless and protect Israel from Tony Blair.

Blair will learn that the arabs aren't like the Irish. The Irish are a civilised people with a small number of terrorists. The arabs and muspigs are an uncivilised wannabe people with a small number of non-terrorists.

I did hear Blair's biographer state on the bbc that he would, in his new role, be a spokesman for the palestinians. So much for evenhanded diplomacy by the quartet. It's like saying that he was a spokesman for the ira in his role as prime minister.

When the real shooting war starts between civilisation and muspig dark ageism, it is going to be long and bloody. Due entirely to western leftists who have urged 'tolerance' of muspig aggression in western societies. They are as culpable as the muspig bombers of 9/11 and the London Underground.

When the fighting starts, it will start among us.

As a Christian, I can't help but wonder how this fits into end times Prophesy.

Is Tony Italian? Anthony?

Hmmm :)