Who woulda thunk it?

this is GREAT! Finally, western civilization is fighting back! so here's my question--if these jihadis can be convicted of cyber terrorism and threatening people, WHY can't imams who preach the same drivel in mosques also be charged?

re: #2 pig farmer

Hell,i'd settle for just publicly exposing them.

So how will the British and thier unions deal with the threat of Islamic terrorism?
By boycotting the Jews, of course:

The Transport and General Workers' Union is, unfortunately, the latest UK union to endorse a boycott of Israel.

[Link: www.engageonline.org.uk...]

sweet, video! Kasper does good work.

The subject matter expert seemed very nervous. At one point she was pretty obviously reading her material.

The presenter was extremely smug and condescending. She's got a future at CBS if she ever decides to move out of jolly olde Englande when the jihadis take over.

It didn't seem occur to anyone that these sites are left up so it can be determined whether anyone is in fact using them and, if so, who?

It might be fun to alter the bomb manuals in order to cause defects, ;-)

This is the message to the jihadis:

re: #6 incanus

I forgot the best part!

Presenter: they haven't really hurt anyone.

How the hell does she know that? What an infantile attitude.

Oh, they are using the old "everybody does it" so it must be ok .... argggh. They need to not only crack down on the cyberjihadists, but also their hosts!

"He downloaded a vast library of bomb-making instructions."

Prolly just wanted them for peaceful energy production.

All these guys are the enemy, and I try not to pick on people for their looks. After all, the devil hath the power to show us a pleasing face. However, I saw these mugshots earlier today and thought - geez! eww! Twilight Zone theme song! Especially the one on the left! Not PC! Sorry!

However, far scarier are the Bosnian terrorists, who appear in this vid. They just drip with evil - chilling men, and thank God they are in custody.

re: #8 incanus
Yeah. Political correctness requires that we wait until they've 'harmed someone.' Then we start taking the steps of trying to open dialogue with them. After all, surely they will listen to reason once we show them our compassion and patience.
sarc/

70 % of Jihadi websites originate in the US.

We need a cybercrusade to combat the cyberjihadis

70% of ihadi websites located in the US?

Love that nonsense about 'even the US, which has been less reluctant to infringe on civil liberties' (paraphrase) --bah! The Euros are the ones making certain types of speech illegal if it offends or demonizes any group.

But surely something can be done here about the jihadi sites, I hope.

Thanks for the upgrade, Charles!
Much better than the "upgrades" at work, which remove handy functions, make everything take longer, or crash my PC.

Most interesting fact from this was that 70% of the Jihadi sites originate here, in the US?

Does anyone who understands this stuff better than I do know what "originate" means in this context?

Does it mean the ISP is in the US?

The creator of the site and the ISP are both in the US?

Can an Isp located in the US host sites that are uploaded from another country?

re: #14 Thanos

70 % of Jihadi websites originate in the US.

I wonder if they include Youtube.

Every time I get upset about the quantity of jihadist crap on the Internet I just remember how easy it is to track down someone that either
1). sets up such a site, or
2). visits it
and that calms me down. They think they are so frickin' smart, but they're stepping right into a trap.

Can't say I like

"The obvious success story is China."

The interviewer certainly took some pleasure in the fact that the US was not cracking down on the sites. Funny, if the US were cracking down on jihadi sites, something tells me that smugBritnewsreader would happily start a 17-part feature on how ruthless America is on innocent religious minorities.

These poor guys. Not only do they have that terrorist glow about them, but they also look like computer nerds. One of them looks more like a woman; I guess he's going for the long-haired Jihadi slacker look. Why does his face look like he was beaten? Police brutality perhaps? Where's the British equivalent of CAIR, the MCB? They should be filing lawsuits already.

Geez.....how much safer we'd be if that damn al-gore didn't invent the internet.

re: #18 EC Marm

Every time I get upset about the quantity of jihadist crap on the Internet I just remember how easy it is to track down someone that either 1). sets up such a site, or 2). visits it and that calms me down. They think they are so frickin' smart, but they're stepping right into a trap.

/agreed

Serious question for those that know more the me (that would include most of you):

I know that we import Mexicans so I don't have to pay $12.00 for a head of lettuce, but why the hell do we let ANY muslims into this country?

re: #16 ChildOfMary

Most interesting fact from this was that 70% of the Jihadi sites originate here, in the US?

Does anyone who understands this stuff better than I do know what "originate" means in this context?

It's hard to say and I am not an expert but I'll take a stab at it ...

Does it mean the ISP is in the US?

Most likely yes. What it almost certainly means is that the network has been assigned to an entity in the US.

The creator of the site and the ISP are both in the US?

It's very difficult to verify where the creator of the site is, as all they need is internet access (which can be obtained anywhere on or near the surface of the earth, really).

Can an Isp located in the US host sites that are uploaded from another country?

Of course! And in fact several of the sites they were talking about were illegally modified (read: hacked) to host content not intended by the site's authors or owners.

re: #23 taxfreekiller

He's not getting exchanged for anybody. Just as soon as the courts get their act together and sort his deportation out, he's getting thrown back to Jordan where they can do what they want with him for all we care, as long as he's out of our country and somebody else's problem.

Its not a freedom of speech issue when a website promotes murder and terrorism. It should be treated no differently than if the person were standing on a soapbox on a crowded street preaching the same jihadi message.

So I really don't understand why we let jihadis operate websites at all. I have no problem with anyone talking politics and criticizing foreign policy, but once they start advocating suicide bombing and attacks on US military or civilian targets the games over.

The website providers should be held accountable for the content they host. If they refuse to shut down jihadi sites, they should be charged along with the people providing the content.

re: #24 Highrise

re: #18 EC Marm

Every time I get upset about the quantity of jihadist crap on the Internet I just remember how easy it is to track down someone that either 1). sets up such a site, or 2). visits it and that calms me down. They think they are so frickin' smart, but they're stepping right into a trap.

/agreed

Me too. Shhhh.

Ixnay on the ebsiteway onitoringmay!

Koskidz discover the source of terrorism; Right Wing Fascists.....
BBC VIDEO: when intel faked terror attacks in Europe

BBC News tells the story from the beginning, interviewing former heads of the CIA, foreign intelligence leaders, real Red Brigade terrorists, and those who infiltrated and redirected their efforts to serve right wing interests.
...
You might recall that the FBI had an informant living with two of the 9/11 hijackers. They also had an informant in the 1993 WTC bombing ring. According to the New York Times, that guy started taping his FBI handlers, when they told him to give the bombers real explosives instead of harmless powder. So are our intel services incompetent, or following the same model of setting up patsies to do terrorist attacks?
...
The Brits were caught doing this in Iraq, and Israel has carried out these kind of operations against us in the Lavon Affair, and it was probably the intent of the USS Liberty incident as well.
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If you don't want the war on terror to last the rest of our lives, we need to eventually get this piece in the debate, and force Congress to investigate it,...

re: #24 Highrise
While I do spend some time checking out the jihadists every week to see what they're up to, when the day comes that half a dozen black Chevy Suburbans pull into my driveway I think my ability to recall half a dozen Ronald Reagan quotes from memory while getting misty eyed in the process will save me from Gitmo. Not so for the jihadists.

So, they were using "dead space" on official sites. How does one find dead space and use it?

Doesn't the administrator notice?

Was that a stupid question?

Sorry. (I'd put that in a teeny-tiny font, but I can't remember how, and I don't feel like looking it up.)

End Muslim Immigration Now.

re: #32 Dianna

So, they were using "dead space" on official sites. How does one find dead space and use it?

They are also reported to be utilizing the dead space in the brains of moonbats everywhere.

Damn!

I think I just drove a stake through the heart of the thread. This is embarassing!

re: #33 Dianna

Don't really know, but the first thing I'd assume is poor security.

Threats vary depending on which technology you use, and overworked admins will often miss what their security doesn't catch.

re: #36 Dianna

Damn!
I think I just drove a stake through the heart of the thread. This is embarassing!

Nice job. I was just starting to enjoy it.....

re: #35 Mich-again

They are also reported to be utilizing the dead space in the brains of moonbats everywhere.

Yes, but the moonbats volunteered.

It is a known fact by those of us who have been grouped, and fighting these jihadi' filth on the net by spamming their websites,channels and videos, ...that we have no help from U.S. Agencies, OR "Google", You Tube, Broadcaster .com,Live Leak, My Space, etc. etc.
I have a friend from Greece, who is now an American Citizen, who has received daily Death Threats, because of her knowledge of the Koran she uses to dispute them,... and Google, You Tube and as of yesterday, The F.B.I. has done nothing, to help pursue these individuals that are the jihadi who post video of American Soldiers being Killed, various other VERY Anti-American propaganda, etc.
If any of you would like to do a small part in helping fight these scum, just go to you tube, and type in Islam in the search bar, go to their video, and blast them, or refute them. their are other things to type in , like 'American Soldiers', Jihad, Mujahdeen,[?] etc., etc. You get the Idea..

Any help you give will be to help America and our Soldiers against this filth.
YOU guys on here are smart enough to do something! FIGHT where YOU can!

#4 Mj

Unfortunately, due to the structure of the Labor Party, Organized unions, such as the TGWU have power quite disproportinate to their actual numbers. I'm afraid that unless Labor is voted out, this sort of thing will just continue and Labor, rather than alienating its base, will play along. I'd like to think that a Tory government would be an improvement, but I don't know if the Brits still have the guts to deal with the problem. Things like the inability to describe terrorists as moslems, for instance, despite the input of Brussells and the EU, have me worried.

re: #36 Dianna

Threadkiller! Could have used you a few threads ago...

:>D

#32 and #33 Dianna

Not a stupid question at all. I was wondering the same, but figured I had asked enough questions.

re: #43 ChildOfMary

Thank you - and I don't think you were asking too many questions.

OT- Please digg this:
[Link: digg.com...]
Thank you :-)
(We now return you to your regular comment thread, which is already in progress)

re: #28 Mich-again

I don't disagree with your take on this. I don't see it as a freedom of speech issue either for them to be shut down. Before they get shut down though, I want investigators to catch as many as they can while leaving it up to trace them. You never know how deep this stuff goes and their footprints that are found on the internet can be very useful in breaking up terrorist rings.

I could easily support legislation that exposes their internet tracks to investigators and was disturbed to hear that libraries were fighting the gov't on giving up listings of jihadi type books checked out or who was using their computers to visit such sites. Last I checked that was our tax dollars running libraries. Then I began to really get pissed when I saw their banned books included much loved books that I read as a kid. Mkay...don't help the gov't nail terrorists but at all costs..don't let kids read those banned books!

OT, thought Fred was going to announce today. Anybody heard anything yet?

re: #41 grumpy old codger

To say nothing of the unions being major fund contributors to the Labour party. Labour and the unions have always been affiliated, like two peas in a pod. The British Government won't deal with the problem satisfactorily any time soon, the Tories are an absolute mess with 40% of their supporters going absolutely spare because David Cameron is an absolute disaster as a conservative.

The British people, however, are getting more pissed off with things every day, 'cos they want to be governed by people who will call a spade a spade and do something positive that takes their views into consideration. Sooner or later, we may just decide to start doing it for them.

Ack- Charles has disabled the ability of LGF to spread timely warnings of hurricanes, tornadoes and Northeastern US blizzards by changing the LGF code such that shocking pink letters in 20 point font on a lime green background with flashing magenta borders is no longer possible!

Right out of the gate the interviewer asks whether, since nobody has been harmed yet, jihadi bomb instructors should be arrested, etc.

The interviewer's subsequent questions could have been completely left out, including her smug attitude. Seems she was more suspicious of the US than the jihadis. She just got in the way of an informative journalist's report.

re: #47 newsjunkie_ky

Nope. Though the Boston Globe is rehashing Watergate, with Fred as a Nixon mole.

re: #49 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ack- Charles has disabled the ability of LGF to spread timely warnings of hurricanes, tornadoes and Northeastern US blizzards by changing the LGF code such that shocking pink letters in 20 point font on a lime green background with flashing magenta borders is no longer possible!

You must ticked him off.

re: #47 newsjunkie_ky

OT, thought Fred was going to announce today. Anybody heard anything yet?

Not yet, just more teases, and so we still wait, patiently or impatiently, depending on our temperament.

re: #52 Sponge

re: #49 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ack- Charles has disabled the ability of LGF to spread timely warnings of hurricanes, tornadoes and Northeastern US blizzards by changing the LGF code such that shocking pink letters in 20 point font on a lime green background with flashing magenta borders is no longer possible!

You must ticked him off.

I think so.

re: #49 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

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THIS JUST IN

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/Ed's new format

[Link: www.cdn-friends-icej.ca...]

well written piece on the fascist part of islmo fascism.
nothing new under the sun

#41 grumpy old codger

but I don't know if the Brits still have the guts to deal with the problem

Oh, we've got the guts alright - it's our Political classes that don't. Is that any different in America? I don't think so. #48 has it about right - (except for associating the problem just with Labour). So no need to wring your hands worrying about us. You watch your own backyard, pal...

re: #57 MacBoy

#41 grumpy old codger
but I don't know if the Brits still have the guts to deal with the problem
Oh, we've got the guts alright - it's our Political classes that don't. Is that any different in America? I don't think so. #48 has it about right - (except for associating the problem just with Labour). So no need to wring your hands worrying about us. You watch your own backyard, pal...

You're right on target. A few politians "get it", but the most don't. It will take a popular uprising in both Britain and the US to get government to take action.

re: #49 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I'll miss the flashing magenta borders

It's never off-topic to post some kickass patriotic music.

re: #57 MacBoy

True, not just Labour. But for what it's worth, that's the Union angle.

Hey Ed!

What's the weather going to be like up where I am: the MacKenzie River, Northwest Territories, Canada, in a bush camp where the river crosses the arctic circle.

Environment Canada's forecasts suck.

Could those guys have been busted in the U.S.? Who knows? It's easier to wire tap and investigate people over there from what I understand. Could they be prosecuted here?

We need to officially declare war on terrorism and untie our hands. Fat chance of that happening. Who ever heard of declaring war on a bumper sticker?

Did I just hear correctly?

"A global war against the unbeliever"?

Is sanity finally going back in fashion?

#59 Me

politicians

/must.use.check.spelling.button

Charles hasn't responded yet, but I asked on the Ajax thread if, maybe the way he codes his name blue, he can code my posts with flashing magenta borders when a hurricane gets within 300 miles of the US coast.

re: #19 Silhouette

Can't say I like
"The obvious success story is China."

Yeah, I'm blocked in China -- the only time I get hits from there or North Korea is when I mention "missile defense" ...

Ed,

Just indicate what colors the different headlines should be.

We can each then color in our own screens with highlighter pens.

/what could be wrong with that

Zombie:

Check your email, and this post's for you.

re: #69 Silhouette

Ed,
Just indicate what colors the different headlines should be.
We can each then color in our own screens with highlighter pens.
/what could be wrong with that

Please tell me you are a blonde?
/did you ever get all that white-out off yet?

re: #12 SnakeSpit
Last Friday, Dr Sanity had a great article on the PC crowd and their tendency to be 'pacifists' to the point of bringing us worse aggression than if we'd faced the problems in the first place, called 'PEACE LIKE A RIVER, i.e., DENIAL RIVER'.

gosh, I hope they never shut down this wildly popular site
[Link: cruxy.com...]
as some sort of politically correct trade-off

or LGF for that matter

I can hear the Muslims now:
Shut down the hate speech at LGF

if Charles ever needs a Legal Defense Fund, I for one will be there to contribute

Hmmm, can't quite see the NWT or Yukon real well, but I'd guess warm and showery.

24º at Norman Wells.

Only 19º at Bar Harbor, ME.

Ergo, Canada, even by the Arctic Circle, isn't as cold and miserable as coastal Maine.

# 68 Thanos

I know three ways to get through The Great Firewall of China - not difficult.

Found this article linked from Jihad Watch. Written by Tarek Fatah, founder of the Muslim Canadian Congress.

Some quotes:

The current state of affairs in Britain is not just the fault of the Islamists and their apologists.

It is also the fault of politicians such as Tony Blair, who, after foolishly entrenching Islamists at every level in British society, then lied about weapons of mass destruction and helped U.S. President George W. Bush launch his illegal invasion of Iraq. Blair set up state-funded Islamic schools and knighted a known Islamist, a person who had defended the death sentence on Salman Rushdie.

To make matters worse, Blair endorsed and funded the so-called "Radical Middle Way" for British Muslim clerics. This "middle way" has become a front for all those who provide convoluted academic analysis, explaining the root causes of Islamic terrorism and falsely promising the British taxpayer that they will counter the ideology of hate against secular societies.

...

Even the new British prime minister failed to take the bull by the horns. Instead of stating that there was no room for jihadi ideology in Britain and challenging the Islamic organizations to join him, Gordon Brown coyly referred to "moderate majorities" and "extreme fringes."

Time has come for this to change.

Time has come for ordinary Britons and Canadians to say that if our politicians do not have the spine to stand up to the Islamists, we will. We have to say to those apologizing for Islamists, "Enough is enough," and stand up to the Jihadis and Jihadi-Lites.

...

Muslim organizations must come out and state clearly that the only laws that matter in Canada are the laws of this country, not medieval shariah laws of the ninth century.

If they do not reject the doctrine of jihad as an option for Muslims, they should be considered part of the problem, not the solution.

Read the whole thing here:
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/editorial/ story.html?id=23fb70a0-3386-4517-9fc7-1157a1d33a14

I'm not optimistic.....

re: #304 Charles

I knew this was gonna hit you hard, Ed, but it's gotta be. CSS code in comments is a security hole waiting to happen.

re: #61 Occasional Reader

It's never off-topic to post some kickass patriotic music.

also some Crusaders music

OT: Flying Pig Spotted Over Toronto

Canada's mission in Afghanistan is costly but worthy, says ...

...the Toronto Star?!?

http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/232528

Couldn't it be argued that, in order to uphold the first amendment and protect the freedom of speech, those who would coordinate, enact, or teach others how to perform terrorist acts should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law?

I mean, I realize that the answer is probably no, but considering these bastards don't believe in free speech and will do away with it if given the opportunity to squelch the opposition (read: infidel; read: USA), wouldn't it be prudent to protect the first amendment?

One can wish.

re: #75 Mike C.
Yes, but they have to be used from the user or client end right? I can't set my blog up so they can search and find it in other words.

re: #77 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet
You need some tissues?

Okay, so apparently Ed of Many Storms is out of the eye-busting weather post biz. Does this also take out everything else other folks have been doing ? Like the little flags that were all over the threads the last day or two ?

Screw it!

Let them win.

ALLAH ACKBAR!

First I find out that the best forecaster at The National Hurricane Center, Stacy Stewart (who is a man) has been sent to Iraq for a year, and now LGF loses the flashing magenta border posts, all in the same day.

This could be a dangerous hurricane season, with people perilously under-informed about growing threats from the tropics.

I just heard that "Shabi" is the Arabic word for "terrorist". Anyone else heard that one before?

re: #82 Juan McCain

re: #77 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet You need some tissues?

I can blow my nose on your shirt if need be, gaylord.

re: #77 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ack!without ed's garish...errr...colorful alerts,how am I gonna stay awake at work?(worth 2 cups of dubl d java)

You want to put a stop to this tonight, pass legislation that all owners of any provider located on U.S. soil and its territories serve mandatory 25 years in solitary confinement for allowing jihadi bomb making material to reside on their server.

And if you look or even act Muslim, the penalty goes to life without parole or death by electrocution - and the general public gets to vote.

I'd wage a large sum of money that the "freedom of speech" argument would quickly become a moot point.

re: #81 Thanos

Yes, that's correct. The internet surfer has to take the initiative to break through.

What? no more color?

Back in my day, we didn't have color posts. All we had was black and white, and we were dern glad to have it.

/old coot voice

re: #83 Mike C.

Okay, so apparently Ed of Many Storms is out of the eye-busting weather post biz. Does this also take out everything else other folks have been doing ? Like the little flags that were all over the threads the last day or two ?

Mike, people are already making suggestions, and, indeed, clever use of asterisks, other odd HTML characters, bold, italics, etc, while not as useful in promulgating vital information, can still play a vital role.

Like taking the A-10 Warthog out of service, and using the A-1 Skyraider instead for close ground support.

Not quite as effective, but tough times call for tough measures.

I mean, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

And RE # 82 by "Juan McCain", just a reminder that several lizards are curious to know who "Juan McCain" is/was. He/she/it is not a newbie. So if you come up with an idea, trot it out so everybody can consider it.

re: #87 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet
"I can read the writing on the wall"

re: #93 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Germans?
shhhh...ed's on a roll....

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re: #89 goodbye_natalie

You want to put a stop to this tonight, pass legislation that all owners of any provider located on U.S. soil and its territories serve mandatory 25 years in solitary confinement for allowing jihadi bomb making material to reside on their server.

I can't say I understand the reasoning behind any of your argument, but that second part has really lost me. (and to be honest is sort-of offensive too)

The reason one cannot pass legislation is because it would be considered unconstitutional, and over turned. Secondly, if you are promoting bomb making material, and Islamist Propaganda, what would it matter if you are Muslim or not?

Lastly, and probably the lamest part of your suggestion is that last quoted line above as it rest solely on one "looking" or "acting" Muslim. A bit broad of a net don't you think? That would include Indians, Israelis, Native Born Christian Arabs, Jewish Arabs, Whites, Blacks, Asians, etc. (What exactly does a "Muslim" look like? You want to make that "Arab" then I would at least know what to look for, but the idea is still emensely flawed as it would include at a minimum the first four of the aformentioned "groups" ) I won't even get into "acting" Muslim.

Well let's see, 50 comment post since I wrote the plea for help,at #40. and not one individual has even offered a comment. I s there anybody on here who really gives a shit?

Ah, another clue.

Ok, this is probably WAY late, as I had to log back in and re-post...
But, in the event it's still relevant..

re: #25 ROP?LOL

Serious question for those that know more the me (that would include most of you):
I know that we import Mexicans so I don't have to pay $12.00 for a head of lettuce, but why the hell do we let ANY muslims into this country?

So we don't have to pay $12 a pack for smokes at your local gas/party/package/convenience place...

/UnPC

Seriously, they did a LOT of the 'immogrant labor' thing in the factories and salt mines (yes, salt mines) here for quite a while.
Now, there are lots of 'anchor' families bringing relatives over.
And, mostly, they're not a problem. Rumor is, the community is largly self policing. Granted, there are the radicals, and we NEED to know who THEY are and watch / deport them, but MOSTLY they ARE decent people who work hard and assimilate well by the 2nd generation.
Except for the clothes, and you can still see many 'ethnic' folks in different areas who have funny hats (Jewish men, in particular) or wear scarves over their hair (Polish, Italian grandmothers)
So there ARE reasons.
As well as reasons to be careful.

re: #90 Mike C.

re: #81 Thanos
Yes, that's correct. The internet surfer has to take the initiative to break through.

Yes, I figured as much, last year's clustrmap didn't have these obvious holes in it.

re: #97 ChenZhen

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That is a good idea. Another way to make vitally important weather threads stand out.

re: #99 BODYGUARDEAGLE

Well let's see, 50 comment post since I wrote the plea for help,at #40. and not one individual has even offered a comment. I s there anybody on here who really gives a shit?

Bodyguardeagle, that is a bit of an unfair comment. Many posters here comment regularly at YouTube and various other places online. Never assume that simply because no one has commented on your off-topic post that no one cares.

re: #99 BODYGUARDEAGLE

Perhaps if you stamp your feet and hold your breath until you turn blue.

Somebody call a whaambulance, stat.

#99 BODYGUARDEAGLE

And what makes you think we aren't doing this already?

I think Aaron at Internet Haganah (sp?), for one, along with a lot of other people we probably don't know, keeps a close eye on various jihadi activity on various web sites.

re: #104 galloping granny

Thanks for the reply, but I fail to see that since the article is about 'web jihad' that my post was off thread, and many of the 'weather comments' are..

I realize that I'm not an oldster here, and that I may not have the regular 'status of some. But, even as a 'newbie', just because I asked a question, doesn't mean that I assumed anything.

Some TJ3 wisdom from a couple centuries ago.

"More than a generation will be requisite [for an unprepared people], under the administration of reasonable laws favoring the progress of knowledge in the general mass of the people, and their habituation to an independent security of person and property, before they will be capable of estimating the value of freedom, and the necessity of a sacred adherence to the principles on which it rests for preservation." --Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1815. ME 14:245

More than a generation? Umm, Run-DNC says 3 years is long enough to declare complete failure. And who's smarter? Thomas Jefferson or Howard Dean. Duh. Which one is a Dr.?

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re: #83 Mike C.

Yes.

#7 SnakePit

Watching and understanding this should be mandatory to graduate high school

re: #106 Odinist

Well, usually if someone is already doing something, a small short comment would be nice,...maybe like "already done"?

re: #105 Mike C.

Thanks...for your humor...

re: #107 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Thanks for the info, I do realize that alot of others are doing this, I just thought I would try to let you guys know the facts I wrote. Thanks again for the info...

re: #99 BODYGUARDEAGLE
Yes, I get upset about the jihadists. I notify the site admins of WordPress or Blogger or YouTube whenever I see it. At that point I assume that they ask their own lawyers about the ramifications of hosting such stuff. I assume (a big guess, but not without some experience in such matters) that they notify Homeland Security or the FBI. The fact that a lot of the stuff stays up after notification tells me one of two things:
1). They have now notified the proper folks. Such folks are now going to track the traffic in and out of such sites. Which could very well be a very good thing.
2). They don't care if they could go to jail and lose their business.

Wrath,

You're not terribly bright, are you?

If you couldn't figure out 90% of that was tongue-in-cheek, then I suggest you get a girlfriend who can help you with the social graces. You're beyond my help.

But if you think I'm going to walk on eggshells on account of something you don't like, I suggest you start cuffing it. You're going to be waiting a long time.

RECAP and UPDATES - A Look at Irhabi 007 (Terrorist 007):

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

re: #114 EC Marm

re: #99 BODYGUARDEAGLEYes, I get upset about the jihadists. I notify the site admins of WordPress or Blogger or YouTube whenever I see it. At that point I assume that they ask their own lawyers about the ramifications of hosting such stuff. I assume (a big guess, but not without some experience in such matters) that they notify Homeland Security or the FBI. The fact that a lot of the stuff stays up after notification tells me one of two things:1). They have now notified the proper folks. Such folks are now going to track the traffic in and out of such sites. Which could very well be a very good thing.2). They don't care if they could go to jail and lose their business.

The other thing you have to be careful about is commenting and watching the video. Sometimes evil only has the power we give it and little else.
By commenting, and by watching, you are increasing the popularity ratings of the vids. Better to just flag them and notify the management. You also by commenting encourage the jihadi, who says "Aha! I am having some effect! See the enraged comments I am getting?"

That's what bugs me about links to KOS from here. How much less traffic would they have if Charles didn't link them every other day? On the other hand, as insipid as KOS is, they aint the real enemy.

re: #114 EC Marm

I agree, that they mostly don't care, and base their inactions on the 1st amendment., which is definitely unsettling that these Jihadi scum are using OUR constitution against us.
Thanks for your comment.

re: #117 Thanos

I agree to some degree with you about the number of 'hits a video gets and the flagging, but I always comment in a civil tone and just rebut anything they say with fact which always enrages them when you can give sources for everyone else to see also.

re: #117 Thanos

The other thing you have to be careful about is commenting and watching the video. Sometimes evil only has the power we give it and little else. By commenting, and by watching, you are increasing the popularity ratings of the vids. Better to just flag them and notify the management. You also by commenting encourage the jihadi, who says "Aha! I am having some effect! See the enraged comments I am getting?"

I watch (as much as I can stomach) and then flag, but never comment; for the reason you give.
I noticed today that DinnerJacket has jailed a bunch of the "gas station bombers" in Iran based on the videos that got posted on YouTube. There is talk of death penalty already. Right now, I don't have an completely trustworthy translation or I would post it.

I do like the way the reporter on the left came back at the talking head on the right when she attempted to paint the US gov't. as hypocrites in not shutting down these sites..
"Well, they do have a Constitution."

Thank you.

OK,..Sorry,.It looks like I probably Killed the thread this time, so I'll just leave you guys with my thought on this...I know it matters to some of you, the others at least will have something to think about if they will.

I believe that if every patriotic American who owns a computer and wishes to fight this scum in some shape form or fashion, even though they can not be beside our soldiers there, would ALL at least go to one of these sites and and write a complaint to that site, and at least flag one or two videos of our soldiers getting killed, it WOULD make a difference.
NO action most always causes no results.

Thanks to those of you who commented to let me know that I am not alone here.

re: #122 BODYGUARDEAGLE

No offense, but how do we know you're not one of the jihadis? Sending us to those sites to get our IPs tracked, viruses attached, etc. Or as other's have said, get tracked by our own good guys?

I'm of the 'don't pay them any attention, kill terrorists where they live' school.

Just sayin...

The thought police, they live inside of Wrath's head.
The thought police, they come to me in the thread.
The thought police, they're coming to arrest me, oh no!

Hey Wrath, you know that talk is cheap, and your manner ain't nice.
And when I right my piece I think my opinion will suffice, will suffice.

'Cause Wrath is waiting for me.
He is looking for me.
Ev'ry single night his type drives all insane.
My ass feels he such a pain.

The thought police, they live inside Wrath's head.
The thought police, they come to me in the thread.
The thought police, they're coming to arrest me, oh no!

re: #49 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ack- Charles has disabled the ability of LGF to spread timely warnings of hurricanes, tornadoes and Northeastern US blizzards by changing the LGF code such that shocking pink letters in 20 point font on a lime green background with flashing magenta borders is no longer possible!

Say it isn't so! I rely on those weather reports Ed!

re: #99 BODYGUARDEAGLE

Well let's see, 50 comment post since I wrote the plea for help,at #40. and not one individual has even offered a comment. I s there anybody on here who really gives a shit?

That's silly. Did you get offended because there weren't a rash of enthusiastic and detailed answers to YOU, or to your IDEA? There's a difference.

Many posts never receive a reply for one reason or another. Most, I would think! I did not reply to your comment because I am not one who knows how to do much on the net besides read. I don't go to the Tube. I think most of the people here are already doing as much as they can, and some are more qualified than others to do so. I think most of the people here are on the right side in all this and don't need to be urged to do something, neither do they need to be chided for not answering your particular post.

re: #123 wvobiwan

re: #122 BODYGUARDEAGLENo offense, but how do we know you're not one of the jihadis? Sending us to those sites to get our IPs tracked, viruses attached, etc. Or as other's have said, get tracked by our own good guys?I'm of the 'don't pay them any attention, kill terrorists where they live' school.Just sayin...

I guess the easiest way to tell and show you is to ask you to go to [sic] Google, and type my user name (BODYGUARDEAGLE) in the search bar, and read all of my comments posted on there. How ever it happened, either inadvertently by my not specifying NOT to link You tube with Google or if the Islamics just transferred them, I don't know, but about 99% of my comments to these scum are linked there.

Maybe that will help, otherwise, I don't know how to belay your doubts, other than my word, ...THAT " I'M AN AMERICAN BY THE GRACE OF GOD...SOUTHERN BY BIRTH AND CHOICE..."

re: #126 cookielady

Thanks, for your insight and your honesty. I was not offended by either, but got the desired reaction I was after. Did my post offend you? I'm sorry if it did, because I was trying to solicit comments to see how many people would go back and then reply and how well they read the post.

It was for my own questions of how many even read the comment and how much of it they read.

I do apologize if it offended you in any way, that was not my intention

These people can not be changed after only a few years in prison. The Death Penalty would be good in cases like this.

70% of jihadi websites based in the US of A? Where's Internet Haganah?

Hey, Kasper, Great work, as always!

Would you please make a point of sharing Channel Four's IMPORTANT (and exceptionally RARE) exploration of "The War on Britain's Jews"?

From posted interview with host, Richard Littlejohn:

"... But there is this assumption that anti-Semitism is something that's just made up by the Jews, and nobody else would ever really pay any attention to it.

... When I went up to Manchester for this film, I saw that they were putting on patrols on a Friday night so that the Jews could go to worship without being attacked. It was like when the army had to escort kids to school in Northern Ireland. Except there, the world was horrified. Yet the situation in Manchester is ignored - it's not considered a story.

If it was an Islamic school, it would be the lead story on Channel 4 and the BBC, and Panoramas about it every night of the week. Yet I didn't even know this existed. The media isn't interested in anti-semitism.

...(Belittlers will say) anything rather than acknowledge the truth. I couldn't care less. But watch the programme, read the parliamentary report, open your eyes. This is going on.

DemoCast.TV

UK viewers should all record it Monday, 9th of July, 8pm.
(And let me know how I can watch it through your SlingBox).