Here is why we are going to have no assimilation of Spanish speaking immigrants, illegal or otherwise...

Dear Mr. Argybargy:

Thank you for contacting Pillsbury with your comment about a Spanish and/or bilingual package of Pillsbury products. We are sorry you were offended.

These products are part of our effort to reach the growing number of people of Hispanic origin in the United States . According to recent census figures, over 42 million Hispanics reside in the U.S. , and of those, 73 percent rely on Spanish as their primary language. These people select their food from the same shelves as the general population, but their understanding of these products is limited. We wish to offer them and their families an equal opportunity to enjoy our quality products.

Our efforts to reach the Hispanic residents are in no way intended to be un-American. A proud American company, General Mills employs over 80,000 people in the United States . In a country where the ethnic composition is changing rapidly, the livelihood of our employees is increasingly dependent on consumption of our products by people of all races, creeds and ethnic origins. Thus, we have initiated attempts to reach Spanish-speaking customers.

We appreciate your bringing this matter to our attention and will carefully review the information you provided with our promotion and advertising staff. We value every one of our customers and we would like to continue to include you among them in the use and enjoyment of our products.

Sincerely,

Nancy Jackson

General Mills

Consumer Services

Happy July 5th everyone!

Do All doctors take the Hippocratic oath or just those from the West?

BTW, proudly wore my LGF swag on the 4th :)

Wow! I got in a 1st comment! The rest of the World must be sleeping, :P

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Y'all may think ChenZen is a troll, but he just showed me something I hadn't thought of, a way to at least introduce some color into weather alert threads...

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re: #1 argybargy63
Dear Miss Nancy Jackson,
F*** General Mills then.

Why is it that all Imams look like a raccoons butt!

Check
Check
Everything works except the racoons butt!

? except the n n's

Damn hot here today in the Bay Area, 104 at 3:24pm.

re: #4 argybargy63

ZZZ

Huh? Wha...? Dang it, I missed it!

#6 Atman
Dear Miss Nancy Jackson,
F*** General Mills then.

Exactly! I wish I had the economic might to hurt them.

Yeah, refresh the page and get rid of all those. It's fixed now.

No outrage in MSM or anywhere else:
Gunfire, explosions rock besieged mosque in Pakistan's capital; reports of children used as human shields

Also Aziz gave an interview, still in the burqa he disguised himself in to flee...

No outrage... because this is acceptable behavior for these creatures, no doubt.

I posted this O/T in an earlier thread. It's from the "The more things change, the more they stay the same" catagory.

I found this nugget of stupidity from the loser lefties in Bezerleley:

Thomas Jefferson Elementary School in Berkeley, Calif., is now Sequoia Elementary School because Jefferson owned slaves and his name "is offensive to a significant part of the population."

re: #10 argybargy63

#6 Atman Dear Miss Nancy Jackson, F*** General Mills then.
Exactly! I wish I had the economic might to hurt them.

Test...does the new Ajax stuff work?

Why yes it does! Charles you rock, thanks again for another really cool update to this already stellar website!

re: #1 argybargy63

According to recent census figures, over 42 million Hispanics reside in the U.S. , and of those, 73 percent rely on Spanish as their primary language

Well. That's scary.

#9 mica_ar

ZZZ

Huh? Wha...? Dang it, I missed it!

I know, I am still in shock!

And here I thought Ajax was for cleanin da kitchen.

Charles is a genius, man. whew.

re: #12 granitebill

I've seen a fair bit of coverage about what's happening in Pakistan, actually...

re: #13 Bob in Breckenridge

I posted this O/T in an earlier thread. It's from the "The more things change, the more they stay the same" catagory.

I found this nugget of stupidity from the loser lefties in Bezerleley:

Thomas Jefferson Elementary School in Berkeley, Calif., is now Sequoia Elementary School because Jefferson owned slaves and his name "is offensive to a significant part of the population."

Yeah, but the slave quarters where built out of sequoias and redwoods.

Damn! PIMF! Bezerkeley...

#8 Dublin(CA)Dude
You must have a breeze...112-116 here.

re: #8 Dublin(CA)Dude

Damn hot here today in the Bay Area, 104 at 3:24pm.

Hey there Dublin...:)
Just got back from Texas and soon as I left ..the downpours and heat wave began..ya think its me?..Heh

Stronger than dirt!

OK, now exactly how does this work...

/Neanderthal trying to use funny slab-like thing with little square Scrabble tiles in rows on it

Preview right underneath.

Got it.

/That is so cool!

Thank you, Charles, for all you do.

cheers

eon

Breaking news Starburst candies are chewy.

According to recent census figures, over 42 million Hispanics reside in the U.S. , and of those, 73 percent rely on Spanish as their primary language

Thats about 31 million.

But only 1 out of 10 people you meet, so no big deal, right?

#21 Atman

Where in Cali are you? Not much of a breeze here at all.

Hi Angel, how are you? Long time no chat.

Iowahawk is on a roll. Another new post>

Arkansan for chutzpah. Now that is refreshing coming from the WH!

re: #1 argybargy63

We wish to offer them and their families an equal opportunity outcome despite their refusal to learn ENGLISH.

Rewarding laziness is no way to run a country. Shame on General Mills.

re: #15 Cognito

re: #1 argybargy63

According to recent census figures, over 42 million Hispanics reside in the U.S. , and of those, 73 percent rely on Spanish as their primary language

Well. That's scary.

I know, it is...

Things are getting bad when you live in an area of the country where less than 1% of the population speaks Spanish and yet JC Penneys has Spanish signs in their store.

re: #27 Dublin(CA)Dude

I'm jus awesome dude..thanks for askin...played 3 sets of tennis t'day and ignored the News so I won't break out in hives..n you my friend? :)

re: #10 argybargy63
We may have to wait 'till the wets spawn the third generation before English is the preferred language of the Hispanics...
/...sounds a little bitter...sorry...

re: #1 argybargy63

Actually, I've noticed lately that a lot of stuff I buy now has 3 languages on the package- English, French and Spanish.

re: #25 bulwrk

Ha. A Starburst once pulled out a filling of mine. I didn't realize I was sitting on a goldmine...

Silly me.

re: #25 bulwrk

I she pointing to the offending tooth, or making the sign of suicide by pistol?

Hey, does everybody love all the black patches in their lawn today? At least the rockets quit flying about 0100...

re: #5 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Y'all may think ChenZen is a troll, but he just showed me something I hadn't thought of, a way to at least introduce some color into weather alert threads...

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THANKS MAN!

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/my kung fu is strong ;)

Ajax is a dutch soccer team. Why are you giving them so much air time, Charles?

#32 Angel

Hives. In the last two weeks I've discovered three new drugs that give me hives. And a screwed up urologist who managed to rupture my bladder. Enought said, hopefully back to work on Monday.

re: #30 Muadib

pretty soon, the instructions will just be in pictures. we're almost at that point now.

I saw an informational street sign the other day. the icon was of a person holding a book, with an arrow point - (no words). (presumably show the way to the library)... EXCUSE ME, if you can't read the friggin sign... why are you going to a LIBRARY?!?!

This message was previewed before a live studio audience.

re: #27 Dublin(CA)Dude

#21 Atman
Where in Cali are you? Not much of a breeze here at all.

...in the desert (did I say California? Let me check.)...
/...stealth mode on...heh, heh.

A rather brisk 22º at SFO

23º at Oakland

I imagine the marine layer is stacked up against the Berkeley Hills.

41º at Stockton Yup, the marine layer is to shallow to get over the hills.

Toasty 47º at Death Valley, 45º (113ºF) in Vegas and a really unpleasant 52º (125ºF) in Baker, CA.

On the other hand, at the end of June, the closest weather station to the South Pole set an all time record of -131ºF, so it isn't hot everywhere, and with all the rain in Texas, neither Dallas or Houston has seen a 100ºF day yet.

re: #34 Bob in Breckenridge

re: #34 Bob in Breckenridge

re: #1 argybargy63

Actually, I've noticed lately that a lot of stuff I buy now has 3 languages on the package- English, French and Spanish.

When I see that I chalk it up to NAFTA, which is okay. In fact I was hoping that General Mills would give me a NAFTA type explanation for their bilingual packaging, they did not.

I live in Upstate New York, so you are used to bilingual signs... in French and English that is.

I never noticed any signs in Hebrew anywhere but who wants to place bets it wont be long 'fore we see some in ARABIC huh.

Pfft!

Wash feet here.
Apes and Pigs..Thataway...--->

Comprendes amigos y amigas?

re: #1 argybargy63

The Anglo, French integration failed miserably in Canada. I highly doubt an Anglo, Latin experiment will work in the US of A. Al it will mean in the future is a war between Anglo, Latin, and Muslim groups vying for supremacy in urban ghettos. And
they will not only fight over drugs, but the kidneys and livers of weakling leftists.

#43 Ed

I'm 25 miles SE of San Francisco, in a costal valley, currently 106F.

Ajax--Stronger Than Dirt!

$1,250 for a hair cut?

re: #39 Dublin(CA)Dude

#32 Angel
Hives. In the last two weeks I've discovered three new drugs that give me hives. And a screwed up urologist who managed to rupture my bladder. Enought said, hopefully back to work on Monday.

Good Lawd...I was just speakin metaphorically...ouch ouch!
Was the M.D. from Saudi by any chance?...aw j/k!
Feel betta! :)

112ºF (44º) at Edwards AFB.

#30 Muadib

Rewarding laziness is no way to run a country. Shame on General Mills.

General Mills does not run the country.

If it is any entity's responsibility to assist -- or enforce -- assimilation, it's the government's role.

Companies are just there to make money. Provide services and products for their customers, employ people, and make money.

Just testing the new feature.

Flemsicles [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #46 beavereater

re: #46 beavereater

re: #1 argybargy63

The Anglo, French integration failed miserably in Canada. I highly doubt an Anglo, Latin experiment will work in the US of A. Al it will mean in the future is a war between Anglo, Latin, and Muslim groups vying for supremacy in urban ghettos. And
they will not only fight over drugs, but the kidneys and livers of weakling leftists.

But not hogs or dogs!

re: #40 Granitebill

re: #30 Muadib
pretty soon, the instructions will just be in pictures. we're almost at that point now.
I saw an informational street sign the other day. the icon was of a person holding a book, with an arrow point - (no words). (presumably show the way to the library)... EXCUSE ME, if you can't read the friggin sign... why are you going to a LIBRARY?!?!

The same reason drive up windows have Braille on the little boxes.

re: #51 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

112ºF (44º) at Edwards AFB.

What's the official weather word on Phoenix and Sedona?

Darn, I need to get the hang of the new features.

#50 Angel

Chinese American actually, but then again, ethniticity aside, I've never had a good experience with a urologist. So I guess I'm batting a thousand.

re: #40 Granitebill

EXCUSE ME, if you can't read the friggin sign... why are you going to a LIBRARY?!?!

They'd better be going there to learn english. And they'd better be here legally!

I can get the same look for $15 including tip, :P

re: #57 Van Helsing

re: #51 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

112ºF (44º) at Edwards AFB.

What's the official weather word on Phoenix and Sedona?

I just got back from sedona... gotta hand it to you guys... beautiful, just beautiful.

How would you describe this blog in one sentence?

Discussion topic:

Alan Colmes (aka Strawman Von Skeletor) typically dismisses the influence of leftist celebrities as insignificant. This would seem to be at least a little disingenuous since Strawman frequently interviews lefty entertainers on his politically oriented radio call-in show, sometimes going far to the fringe to do so, and was himself a stand-up comedian before deciding to go straight.

He did ask an interesting question the other night, though: If Hollywood is so leftist, why is it that only (more or less) conservative celebrities seem to get elected to high office? He named Reagan, Schwarzenegger, and Fred Thompson as examples. This is important because it is likely to become a standard talking point among lefty pop-culture apologists. Off the top of my head, I can't remember any lefty celebrity who has reached an office as high as governor, let along the White House, but Straw-man's invited inference, that this disproves the notion of an overwhelming leftist pop-culture establishment, is only superficially credible.
These three are manifestly not typical of the Hollywood establishment, nor of the internal culture of the media-industrial complex as a whole. Leftists have the burden of demonstrating otherwise.
One thing that has occurred to me is that only those to the right of the spectrum in the entertainment world would be close enough to the American mainstream to have any chance of winning an election. It is hard to imagine someone like Rosie O'Donnell, not especially radical by entertainment world standards, running for governor anywhere with any chance of success. Many other lefty entertainers have extensive histories of drug abuse and scrapes with the law. Enough of this is normally a disqualification from elective politics even among Democrats, particularly since leftist celebrities (unlike say Bush and Schwarzenegger) are not convincingly repentant about their past transgressions. Indeed, they often seem proud of them.
In any case, a fairly mainstream Hollywood lefty, like Ed Asner, would rank as a bomb-throwing weirdo, completely beyond the pale, in the world of elective politics.
Leftist Hollywood is locked out of office by its own extremism, but this does not mean that they are locked out of influence.

The coolest one I have heard about from my daughter is the little cross walk lights in Japan. It seems they have a picture of somebody walking but the closer the light gets to changing the faster they blink. Kind of a get a move on before ya get squashed warning.

Islamic Rage Boy really can dance.

re: #57 Van Helsing

Are you in Sedona? If so, watch out for the vortexes.

re: #61 song_and_dance_man

The General Mills letter is discouraging.

I was dismayed and if General Mills thought this would mollify me...boy were they wrong! My new policy is to not purchase their products.

45º in Phoenix, but with only 8% humidity, it is a dry heat.

It got up to 39º in Eilat, 42º in Riyadh. Hmmm, Phoenix warmer than Riyadh? Hmmm, Hell itself, Mecca, only got up to 40º

Only 26ºC in Houston, as I enjoy low air conditioning bills, and weeks since I had the sprinkler on the lawn.

re: #28 Bobblehead

Perfect !

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

Well Al Franken is probably going to run for senator in MN so we will see how that works out.

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

You forgot Clint and Sonny!

re: #5 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I think you should lobby Charles to allow marquee html...then you'd really have something. ;)

/good luck

Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, has scheduled hearings Wednesday on Bush's commutation of Libby's 2 1/2-year sentence.

Hearings for what? What doesn't this brain-dead moronic liberal piece of shit not understand about Art. II, Sec. II of the Constitution?

Do these dimocrat asswipes not wonder why their approval rating is 14%?

Here's why:

Since January when the dimocrats took control of Congress, what have they done?

A. Tried to cut and run (surrender) in Iraq by not allocating money for the necessary equipment for our troops.

B. Started over 600 investigations of the Bush Administration.

C. Proposed massive tax increases on every American, including millions of the poorest Americans removed from the tax rolls by the Bush tax cuts.

That's about it...

I hope these A-holes enjoy their majority because it'll end in Jan. 2009 if they keep doing shit like this.

re: #34 Bob in Breckenridge

That's NAFTA. The French is for Canada, of course.

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

I think Gopher and Cooter are/were Republicans too.

re: #43 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

and a really unpleasant 52º (125ºF) in Baker, CA.

Home of the world's largest thermometer you know

Quittin time...

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

Discussion topic:

...before deciding to go straight.

Colmes is straight? Nahhh...

re: #64 humanliberty

Defiant.

As always, late to the party. Since I missed it all, here are my comments for the past four posts:

I'm stunned...STUNNED, that these people, (troofers), can actually function on a daily basis without hurting themselves.

Hurray! More comment goodies! Thanks, Charles.

Um..70%? But...but...mickey moore-food sir? told me there was no terrorist threat in this country...

And finally:

Good evening lizards. Hope you all had a pleasant day.

96 here but with wind chill its down to 93:)

99 forecasted high,
101 forecasted for tomorrow

Dammit, I hope this is just a little bit of back-at-'cha taquiya by the Brits... but I'm not holding my breath...
[Link: www.wnd.com...]
Outrageous if true.

re: #13 Bob in Breckenridge

Thomas Jefferson Elementary School in Berkeley, Calif., is now Sequoia Elementary School because Jefferson owned slaves and his name "is offensive to a significant part of the population."

I'll have to look him up but Cheif Sequoia may owned had a few himself.

Rather, the English and scientific name for the trees came from the fame and accomplishments of the Cherokee Chief Sequoya. A silversmith, trader, and U.S. Army soldier who lived in Cherokee County, Georgia, in the early nineteenth century, Sequoya became famous for devising a way of writing his native language.

Hi There!

re: #1 argybargy63

and yet we also have this story from the family archives...

Apparently, my brother James has been teaching Math to ESL (English as a Second Language) students who are bright and hard working but lacking in vocabulary and Minnesotan experiences.
Sorry to say, this causes some confusion when he has to use story problems.

John's canoe left the dock at 8:10...
Mary's canoe left the dock at 8:15...
(hand goes up)
What's a canoe?
(another hand)
What's a *dock*?

YOU think you YOU hated story problems? At least you understood the WORDS…

re: #63 Granitebill

Indeed, it is beautiful. No matter how hot is in the valley, we can always count on Sedona to at least cool off well at night.

The family is there, having fun, whilst I slave away at work in Phoenix.

Thanks Ed of the many names. I knew it was hot here, but hotter than Mecca? whoa...

#69 muadib

I hear that the vortexes attract moonbats. I use a Glock 27 if the moonbats get too rowdy.

Mostly though, they just flit around annoyingly.

re: #74 argybargy63

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel
You forgot Clint and Sonny!

I was confining myself to offices as high as governor and the Senate, rather than trying to make up a comprehensive list.

re: #75 ChenZhen

re: #5 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet
I think you should lobby Charles to allow marquee html...then you'd really have something. ;)
/good luck

Cut and pasted the example- nope, apparently not enabked here.

What the f*ck are they doing with rockets in this mosque..

[Link: news.monstersandcritics.com...]

Islamists fire rockets in fresh fight at besieged Pakistani mosque

Ugh! Fake Clinton hugs and kisses in Iowa.

#84,

Sounds like Bozeman.
Changing the name to Big Fry.

#73 Just_A_Grunt

Well Al Franken is probably going to run for senator in MN so we will see how that works out.

/I don't think so

The small southeast New York town where I was born now has a large Hispanic population. The main shopping street on one side of town has nothing but Spanish signs and stores. I couldn't shop there if I wanted to.

re: #86 easy

I couldn't find that Sequoyah owned slaves, but around 8% of Cherokee did.

I wonder how that compares to the general population at the time.

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel

Good point, I was just having fun. Who would ever think that people named Gopher or Cooter would be elected to any kind of office, :P

#94 tradewind

Bozeman... Ah, what a great place!

[Link: www.museumoftherockies.org...]

Update to #85: This is much more believable...

JERUSALEM
Hamas' purported rescue operation today in which kidnapped BBC reporter Alan Johnston was freed from captivity really was a "movie" staged by Hamas to endear itself to the international community and demonstrate it is capable of imposing order in Gaza, a senior Palestinian Authority official charged.

Nancy Culp, aka "Jane Hathaway" on the Beverly Hillbillies, tried unsuccessfully for Congress from Pennsylvania.

Co-star Buddy Ebsen campaigned for her GOP opponent.

Folks,

What's the most recent book you read? I just re-read Eric Margolis's War at the Top of the World: The Struggle for Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Tibet.

re: #81 Atman

Colmes is not only straight, he is married and Jewish.

Reposting, from the Ajax thread..
Ultimatum to Mosul's Christians: Leave within 3 days or die

A statement by an Islamic group that calls itself the Islamic Emirate of Mosul threatened to kidnap or kill all Christians whether students or employees in Mosul University if they did not leave the university campus in three days.

According to the statement that was posted on city streets, the Islamic group threatened as well all Christians living in Mosul to leave the city within three days or the group will behead any Christian who will remain in the city.

It may sound Orwellian, but I'm getting a sense that a requirement for world peace is the whole world must first become Dar ul Harb.

Speaking of doctors, when greeting urologists and proctologists, best just to bow.
When greeting Mo doctors, best to run away.
/These new features Charles has instituted are awesome.
Under left side bar Tools/Info is a Donate button.
He's spent TONS of hours working, those who can afford to, might be nice to show appreciation in a form other than just verbal.
He even offers a 30-day money back guarantee in case you change your mind.

Odnist,
True, but I just returned to TN from a week up there and I swear it's cooler here.

(Well, okay... without factoring in the humidity)...
:)

Stupidity on wheels

Well, that was easy. Less than 72 hours after President Bush commuted Scooter Libby's jail sentence (and that includes a national holiday), erstwhile Prisoner 28301-016 paid his financial debt to society. Cheney's Cheney's $250,400 check -- 250 grand, plus a $400 "special assessment" -- was posted on the U.S. District Court's docket this afternoon. So much for the financial hardship his supporters had touted in defending Bush's actions.

instead of 'party like a rock star', the new saying is...

...Party Like an Algore!

re: #91 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #75 ChenZhen

re: #5 Ed Mahmoud's Sock PuppetI think you should lobby Charles to allow marquee html...then you'd really have something. ;)/good luck

Cut and pasted the example- nope, apparently not enabked here.

They don't allow it on my blog either, as far as I can tell. It does work on another message board that I frequent, however. It would get pretty annoying if everyone did it I think.

#102,
Just goes to prove that Rosie can be a real drag on a campaign...

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel

My 3 cents worth:

The conservatives in the entertainment industry have to get their arguements polished in order to garner any support to their cause; whereas, the with the lll hollywood uneducated elite, the farther left you are the more play you get by the media. I mean, Sean Penn visiting Mount Rushmore would not make a six month news story.
(This same phenomena occurs with the media and people of color-the more outlandish the claim, the more the media goes to the bizarre rather than the 'norm.')

re. #103 rappmandu:

Currently reading Carnage and Culture by Victor Davis Hanson.
About to start Star Maker by Olaf Stapledon.
Oh and I am also half-way through Asimov's Foundation :)

#103 rappmandu

"Lost Civilizations of the Stone Age" by Richard Rudgley... and a re-read of Euripides vol. I...

#1, I also hate the fact that everything in the grocery store is written in Spanish. Hello-where was the German 173 years ago when my ancestors came in. Oh well. I wish we could boycott everything that was written in Spanish but what would we buy? Oh well.
# 88, be sure your brother is checked frequently for TB. I taught ESL as well to probably illegal migrants as well. Funny thing happened when we went to adopt a child and I had to have a TB test (not having had one in 7 years when I had last took a teaching job); I tested positive and had to spend 9 months taking the meds which put the adoption back an entire year.

re: #103 rappmandu

The Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer.
Working on the First American Army.

#81 atman

Colmes is straight? Nahhh...

I agree dude! Every time I see Colmes he's leaning wayyy to the left.

re: #98 Silhouette

re: #86 easyI couldn't find that Sequoyah owned slaves, but around 8% of Cherokee did. I wonder how that compares to the general population at the time.

All of the Iroquois nations owned slaves too - and for that matter, prior to the Revolution, slavery (and not just black slaves) was legal and common in all of the colonies.

Not an actor, but still a 'celebrity'

NASCAR Legend Richard Petty (R): When "the King" ran for North Carolina secretary of state in 1996, he was seen as a shoe-in. Petty, himself, seemed to share that view, campaigning only sporadically. On election day, he was defeated by Elaine Marshall (D). "If I had known I wasn't going to win, I wouldn't have run," Petty said at the time.

Richard, that is priceless!

So last night I watched "Independence Day", (clinton's favorite movie), and discovered something I hadn't noticed before. The Prez was a Republican.

#95,
I don't know... they've already voted to let the camel's nose under the tent with Ellison. A diaper may not look so bad after a keffiyah.

re: #45 Angel

I never noticed any signs in Hebrew anywhere but who wants to place bets it wont be long 'fore we see some in ARABIC huh.

Trust me, there are PLENTY places like that around me.
I can't tell driving by if it's a grocery, restaurant, dentist, or goat seller. (or some horrific combo?)
I imagine if I could read the lables so I knew what I was getting I could get amazing deals on coffee, and henna.

re: #104 Just_A_Grunt
Hi ya Grunt. Just funnin'. For me Colmes is a schmuck and not worth a listen...

re: #98 Silhouette

re: #86 easy
I couldn't find that Sequoyah owned slaves, but around 8% of Cherokee did.
I wonder how that compares to the general population at the time.

I'm still looking but I found this:

But even with that name, the school district cannot quite dodge the slavery connotations. Some community members have pointed out that under Chief Sequoia's leadership in the early 19th century, the Cherokee nation owned more than 1,500 black slaves.

A spokesman for the Berkeley Unified School District, Mark Coplan, acknowledged that Chief Sequoia "presumably owned slaves and was rather barbaric," but he emphasized that the proposed new name would honor the sequoia tree, not the Cherokee leader.

Rather Barbaric? Not very PC.

re: #103 rappmandu

The Man-Eaters of Tsavo - funny book... well, maybe not haha funny...

A War Like No Other by VDH

re: #116 terri g

I hear ya, I bought organic eggs the other day at Wal-Mart because the packaging was English only. Hmmm...sounds like my personal campaign is expanding beyond pillsbury biscuits.

# 103 rappmandu

"Six Frigates" by Ian W. Toll.

re: #64 humanliberty
In a sentence:

If you don't read LGF, you don't know what's going on in the world.

JWM

re: #126 easy

re: #98 Silhouette

re: #86 easyI couldn't find that Sequoyah owned slaves, but around 8% of Cherokee did. I wonder how that compares to the general population at the time.

I'm still looking but I found this:

But even with that name, the school district cannot quite dodge the slavery connotations. Some community members have pointed out that under Chief Sequoia's leadership in the early 19th century, the Cherokee nation owned more than 1,500 black slaves.A spokesman for the Berkeley Unified School District, Mark Coplan, acknowledged that Chief Sequoia "presumably owned slaves and was rather barbaric," but he emphasized that the proposed new name would honor the sequoia tree, not the Cherokee leader.

Rather Barbaric? Not very PC.

Barbaric? Sequoya? I wonder if anyone in the Cherokee Nation has seen this? I think I will make sure that they do! Unbelievable disrespect to both Jefferson and Chief Sequoya! Coplan should be fired.

More celebrity politicians

Roy Acuff (R): Acuff, one of the pillars of the country-music scene in Nashville, ran for Tennessee governor twice (in 1944 and 1948) -- both times unsuccessfully. Acuff's political ambitions were reportedly the result of then Gov. Prentice Cooper's (D) refusal to attend a ceremony honoring him.

Novelist Upton Sinclair (Socialist/D): The famed author of "The Jungle" made a number of runs for office -- primarily in California where he moved in 1915. He ran for Congress twice -- once from New Jersey and once from California; he went on to campaign for Senate (1922) and governor (1926) as a Socialist.

In 1934 he was the Democratic party's nominee for governor.

If the ACLU wants to bill taxpayers for ROP'er footbaths so they can pray as they have been taught, will they insist we spring for reptile cages to make snake handling more convenient?
Just asking.

re: #121 song_and_dance_man

I loved Rendezvous with Rama. Childhood's End also sticks into my memory as being incredibly good, I recently re-ordered it. And I haven't even finished Dune yet..

re: #126 easy

but he emphasized that the proposed new name would honor the sequoia tree, not the Cherokee leader.

Oh, the tree!

They do jump through mental hoops, don't they?

re: #103 rappmandu

One Palestine Complete: Jews and Arabs Under the British Mandate
Tom Segev

John Wilkes Booth was an actor

Wow, just heard on a radio station for the second time a new term being coined for illegal aliens. This one is simply unbelievable...

"international travelers"

I give up.

re: #126 easy

That might be one or two more than Jefferson.

re: #118 Bob in Breckenridge
I have to admit; my wife won't let me have a loaded weapon in the T.V. room when H&C is on...

Thanks! Maybe I'll check out some of those titles. It's always interesting to learn what people read.

#136,
Seriously.
What a tree-wasting, gas-guzzling, ozone-damaging human -resource-using cluster eff that's gonna be.

re: #101 tradewind

yes. But i'm not sure that is the right question. Instead of asking "is Hamas really attempting to create order or just was it just a movie", we should really be asking:

Is "order" imposed by a hate filled Mafia really acceptable.

The Nazis had order, the jet, fixed wing aircraft, stealth technology, and trains that ran on time. But I'm not sure that was enough to want us to over look the murder, fascism, destruction, and evil ideology, in an attempt to find reason to accept Nazi rule over Europe.

re: #103 RappMandu
"White Sale" by Thinley Norbu...

Huh, just test-driving the new preview feature. Pretty cool! Thanks again Charles!

re: #17 Angel

Please pass the Comet.

re: #136 song_and_dance_man

goal of raising awareness

They are always "raising awareness."

Beats the heck out of actually having to do anything, I suppose.

In my vulnerable years, the call du jour was to Save The Rainforest. You know what I did? Gave to a company that was buying land in the rainforest. Probably insignificant, but it was the only group that was doing anything concrete.

I remember thinking that if all the Save The Rainforest celebs just pooled their money, they could buy the whole rainforest rather than just make endless commercials encouraging American school kids to save the rainforest.

Bornre: #103 rappmandu

Born Fighting
How the Scots-Irish Shaped America
by James Webb
(a gift from my mom)

Black Rednecks and White Liberals
by Thomas Sowell
(a natural fit with the above book)

re: #143 tradewind

#136,Seriously.What a tree-wasting, gas-guzzling, ozone-damaging human -resource-using cluster eff that's gonna be.

I wonder at what point Algore finally gives up this crap. His assertions have been obliterated time and again, and he has to know that even to the tree-hugger crowd he's just a joke. I understand the guy wants to make money, but damn.

I'm super cerial

...errr; dat be "White Sail"

wrath,
I think the point is that it's just another example of Pal bull-shiite, not unlike the staged ' funeral' for a martyred resistance hero... busted when the pallbearers dropped the casket and the ' corpse ' got up and ran away.
These people are real drama queens , who make Al Sharpton and Jesse look camera-shy in comparison.

re: #149 Silhouette

if all the Save The Rainforest celebs just pooled their money, they could buy the whole rainforest rather than just make endless commercials encouraging American school kids to save the rainforest.

They would never do that, they couldn't make any money from their investment.

re: #154 tradewind

Ok fair enough. But again I place the blame somewhere else.

I don't blame them for tying to manipulate a willing Western media (& populace). I blame the willing Western media (& populace).

re: #38 Mats

Ajax is a dutch soccer team. Why are you giving them so much air time, Charles?

Do you have something against the Dutch ? Against Ajax soccer is fine with me :-)

Boy, somebody is in BIG trouble at Associated Press and Yahoo. Get a load of what got through their editors and posted to Yahoo:

Al-Qaida video reflects group's troubles

BAGHDAD - A new video by al-Qaida's deputy leader Thursday left no doubt about what the terror network claims is at stake in Iraq, describing it as a centerpiece of its anti-American fight and insisting the Iraqi insurgency is under its direct leadership.

But the proclamations by Ayman al-Zawahri carried another unintended message: reflecting the current troubles confronting the Sunni extremists in Iraq, experts said.

...al-Qaida in Iraq, the group that claims allegiance to Osama bin Laden's goals,has been put on the defensive. Some Sunni insurgent groups have publicly split with it, distancing themselves from its bomb attacks on Iraqi civilians and accusing al-Qaida of trying to strong-arm their members into joining.

One influential faction, the 1920 Revolution Brigades, has openly helped U.S. forces in new offensives against al-Qaida in and around Baghdad, and some Sunni tribes have turned against it in western Anbar province.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #148 LaMano

re: #17 Angel
Please pass the Comet.

Sorry Ajax is the only cleaner allowed.
/now I am running a special on brain floss

Link for the Yahoo story on al-Qaeda:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

#150 buzzsawmonkey

ROFL!

re: #1 argybargy63

Anyone buy a camera, appliance or most anything else with a manual? Er, manuals. It's and adventure to try and find the one in English.

Oh, if you flip this one over. No, over here in the other bag. It's on the back of this page. No, it's the top half. Make that the left column. I think it's the first paragraph in each section. Oh look, this one ONLY has pictures.

Damn, I just tore the friggin English section out and threw the rest away. Now where the hell is the stapler?

[Link: www.aish.com...]

let the arabs and moonbats boycot

Nice little feature, this Ajax. But I miss my music notes.

re: #8 Dublin(CA)Dude

Damn hot here today in the Bay Area, 104 at 3:24pm.

Oh man, usually Dublin is right on a part temp wise with Fairfield.
Looks like my Shephers will be a puddle when I get home. I hope the offsprng hit the AC before he went to work.

#155 newsjunkie_ky

Sure they could- Ecotourism!

Mr. Pester, did you send it to Charles? Might be worth a thread...

#152,
Down here in his home state we knew he was bogus when he had the Park Service in NC raise water levels so he could canoe into a photo op...and you should see how the Caney Fork river was trashed on his Dad's farm.
At least we made sure he didn't get to the Oval in '00. FL notwithstanding , if he'd carried TN it woulda been all over.

So you want to be a Hamas cameraman? Bad idea. From today's action in Gaza.

Warning! Warning! Warning! If you can't handle extreme graphic violence don't watch.

Here's a great example of doing something rather than just talking about it.

John Ratzenberger, aka Cliff Claven and a voice in every single animated movie made lately, invented a subsitute for foam packing peanuts.

Outside the entertainment industry, John's love and respect for nature and the environment influenced his business interests. In 1989, John developed packaging alternatives made from biodegradable and non-toxic recycled paper as a safe alternative to Styrofoam "peanuts" and plastic bubble wrap. The first product, Quadra-pack, became an international success with clients including Hallmark, Elizabeth Arden, and Nordstrom.

John has since sold his creation, which is now sold in over 58 countries, and counting. "It's the only earth we have”, John states, "and I have never been a member of the cause of the month club. Concern for the environment shouldn't be confined to a one day celebration every 20 years."

I remember back during the Save the Rainforest days that Rush made hay out of the fact that Al Gore had a new conference room table made out of the wood of some trees from the rain forest. It was gawd awful huge and they had a hard time getting it into the White House.

#167 Carolina Girl

Currently at 106 F. I might be cooler to cook inside tonight.

Not quite 80 degrees in Berkeley. I can feel the hint of a sea breeze.

[Link: sv.berkeley.edu...]

Fog watching a major preoccupation in these parts...

re: #139 mfarmer1

Maybe we should all start calling each other inhabitants of planet earth and sing happy songs all day

Does anyone else see lots of "n"s?

Here's a little tribute to Alex McIlveen, "The Hero," by one of my favorite bloggers, The Lumberjack:

How can you not love this quote?

So it's clear civilization won this round. "We love death as you love life" is obviously propaganda, what they mean is "we love to talk our idiot brothers into doing stupid things, like you love life." But what better answer can the west give than, "we love to pepper spray, and nad-kick the flaming idiots you've talked into loving death, send more like this."

Alright who rogered the thread.
Eddd!

Ummm now it seems alright. Glad to see somebody else saw it.

re: #175 Dublin(CA)Dude

Oh dude - I read down further and see you're just having all kinds of frolic and detour over there.

And the invitation's still open for a weekend if you're in the Livermore area and we're out at our hangar at the airport - the beer's always cold - just ask mickthemick or Dianna (or Iron Fist even!).

What's going on with all the

/n
/n
?

Last three books...

Jane's Special Forces Recognition Guide 2007

Tactical Small Arms of the 21st century - Charles Cutshaw

The Military Atlas of WW2 - Chris Bishop

THANKS
KIRLY!,
R

re: #176 brenda

Brenda! We were just talking about you the other night (favorably, of course!).

It's reallly, really nice in the city this afternoon - as Ed says, the marine layer is staving off the heat - little breeze, feels really great.

#182 Carolina Girl

Thanks for the invite, I may take you up on it. I believe Dianna is having a house warming next weekend. I will have to follow up with her to see if it is still on (in Freemont). Keep cool!

French Minister on Video saying it is possible Bush is behind 9/11 attacks.

[Link: dailymotion.alice.it...]

I am shamelessly plugging my post on the original lgf thread here, because it is the last one (#310), and unlikely to get as much attention. I do not want to deny you any fun at the expense of the French.

Here is the offending French Minister of Housing's Governmental Email Address:

cboutin@assemblee-nationale.fr

And here is the French Embassy's webpage for questions about governmental policy:

[Link: [Link: www.ambafrance-us.org...]...]

I was politely blunt. I am not saying you should be.

re: #173 Silhouette
John Ratzenberger, aka Cliff Claven, was on o'reilly last week. He is a conservative and Christian. Good for him for actually DOING something instead of just offering lip service.

I recycle and the libs I know don't but will support algore spewing hotair.

Unsuccessful preemptive honor killing:

Baby survives being buried alive
Indian baby's hand

A two-day-old baby girl in India has survived after being buried alive in a field by her maternal grandfather in the south of the country.

Police say they have arrested the baby's grandfather, 52-year-old Abdul Rahman, after he confessed to trying to kill the newborn by burying her alive.

"I am yet to marry off four daughters and cannot take responsibility for a fifth one, even when she is only a granddaughter," Mr Rahman was quoted as telling police.

BBC

I hope Charles gets in an occasional pleasure read. Or maybe all those IT tomes are pleasure reads?

re: #89 Van Helsing

#69 muadib

I hear that the vortexes attract moonbats. I use a Glock 27 if the moonbats get too rowdy.Mostly though, they just flit around annoyingly.

They attract moonbats like moths to a light. It would be more fun to dart them and release them in the deep woods.

re: #172 Mojo Jojo

good shooting one less terrorist

re: #103 rappmandu

Folks,
What's the most recent book you read? I just re-read Eric Margolis's War at the Top of the World: The Struggle for Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Tibet.

recent reads & re-reads:
Re read "Gates of Fire" Stephen Pressler, and the two books he wrote about the Afghanistan Campaign
Infidel - Ayaan Hirsi Ali
A Fire Upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
Dragons of Eden - Carl Sagan
The entire "Master and Commander" series by Patrick O'Brian
Reading or Re-Reading now:
Reagan's Diaries
Art of War (2nd time, didn't like it compared to Clauswitz, Possony and others, trying again.)
Silverlock -- John Myers Myers
Destinies Series - Baen Books, Jerry Pournelle editor

Fred Thompson: We Need a Lazy Politician

Since the word got out that Fred Thompson will likely enter the Presidential race in July, there has been constant talk about his governmental experience, his conservatism, and yes, his alleged laziness. It is comical, however, to think that the worst thing that can be said about Thompson is that he "did not like to work very hard." Personally, I could not think of anything that would make him more qualified to work in government; laziness is on the top of my list of qualities I want in a politician. In fact, we desperately need more of them.

Conversely, it is precisely because of hardworking politicians that our government cannot live within its means, we have an administrative nightmare, there are never-ending entitlement programs, pork barrel spending is at an all-time high, and our tax system is an embarrassment. For some reason, politicians and the American public think that more needs to be done about everything. No, in reality we need to stop doing everything. Specifically, stop creating government programs to solve problems created by the government.

In my humble opinion, we need more politicians to get elected and do absolutely nothing. Make no compromises. Pass no bills. Make no laws. Make no press appearances. Do not even answer the phones. Just sit and stare out a window.

Once we allow this to happen for two years or so, and the Country gets back in shape, then we can talk about removing the wasteful laws we have on the books. We can eliminate just about every federal government agency. Finally, after four years, Fred Thompson can drive his big red pickup truck back to Tennessee after a job well-done.

Devil's Advocate
Editorialist
Copious Dissent - Your Daily Dose of Liberty

This is a test. This is only a test. Had this been an actual message, something brilliant would follow.

This is only a test!

re: #64 humanliberty

"LGF is a blog that cannot be described in one sentence."

I imagine that lizards could put together one heck of a library, given their breadth and depth of interests.

Line breaks inside quoted comments should now behave in the expected way, with complete obedience.

If you look through this thread you'll see some quoted comments that have all their line breaks stripped out so that sentences run together.

Now fixed.

I have a question for those of you who spend more time than I do these days talking to loonie leftists.

Someone I know asserts that quoting Caligula thusly, "Let them hate us so long as they fear us." must, regardless of context, be interpreted as a statement of support for the current administration.

Is this something the loonie left is telling themselves these days?

re: #200 Charles

Line breaks inside quoted comments should now behave in the expected way, with complete obedience.

If you look through this thread you'll see some quoted comments that have all their line breaks stripped out so that sentences run together.

Now fixed.

Verifying?

Has anyone read Triple Cross by Peter Lance? Opinions?

(post preview) Nifty.

TRUTH!

Hmm, my first comment. Great to be a fellow lizard.
Trying to link to my video. I like the comment from "thermateexpert." I have to send him the link to furniture store fire that killed 7 firemen.

It works when you use a lighter too.

Let's try quotes INSIDE of quotes:

re: #196 buzzsawmonkey

re: #195 ArcherB

This is a test. This is only a test. Had this been an actual message, something brilliant would follow.

This is only a test!

Can you attest to that?

Charles, this is really nifty. I live on a dialup, and the "new comments" button is great. Login also FLIES. Amazing.

PS- Spellcheck chokes on "blockquote" ;-)

It wasn't $1,250 for a haircut. The haircut was only the regular $400. The rest was for flying out and back, lost business due to travel time, and, hopefully, carbon offsets for the air travel.

#196 Rather testy, aren't we?

Hi ya'll! Don't remember me do ya?

Its like I think I'm a rock star

Hi Icarus! Hope all is well.

#201 Crusader Rabbit

I have a question for those of you who spend more time than I do these days talking to loonie leftists.

Someone I know asserts that quoting Caligula thusly, "Let them hate us so long as they fear us." must, regardless of context, be interpreted as a statement of support for the current administration.

Is this something the loonie left is telling themselves these days?

The left likes to pretend that hate is what the right and only the right does, and that anything right-wing is equivalent to Bush and war and death and even defense.

The left fears to be feared, for some unknown or at least very distasteful psychological reasons.

In actuality, I think Bush is not in the least eager for the US to be hated by anybody, even the Muslims, so if and when the left says that, they're just spewing their usual nonsense.

Just for a change of pace, here are south Asian Christians who are being kicked around, not by Muslims, but by Hindu ultra-nationalists:
BJP Government Behind Christian Persecution in Madhya Pradesh

Even The New Republic said, some weeks back, that 60% of all the Christians martyrs had been killed within the last 100 years.

The cover of that Rachmaninoff Symphony #3 disc, up there on the left tonight, looks vaguely pr0n-ish.

re: #208 itellu3times

#201 Crusader Rabbit

I have a question for those of you who spend more time than I do these days talking to loonie leftists.
Someone I know asserts that quoting Caligula thusly, "Let them hate us so long as they fear us." must, regardless of context, be interpreted as a statement of support for the current administration.

Is this something the loonie left is telling themselves these days?

The left likes to pretend that hate is what the right and only the right does, and that anything right-wing is equivalent to Bush and war and death and even defense.

The left fears to be feared, for some unknown or at least very distasteful psychological reasons.

In actuality, I think Bush is not in the least eager for the US to be hated by anybody, even the Muslims, so if and when the left says that, they're just spewing their usual nonsense.

Well, that's what I'm trying to discover. Do lefties you talk to actually take that as a code-phrase or is it just the paranoid ravings of this particular lefty I know?

In either case, if I were to quote someone to express concorde with this administration (not likely), I think it would have to be James Buchanan.

re: #209 The Sanity Inspector

Wow. I hope my relatives in India can remain safe enough with this kind of antipathy against Christians. And they own a Montessori School and put on Christmas plays every year. I hope India doesn't become like Pakistan. Distant relatives on my mother's side fled Pakistan during Partition because the Muslims would kill them if they stayed. Would be a shame if that kind of crap caught up with them 60 years later.

re: #193 Thanos

re: #103 rappmandu

Folks,
What's the most recent book you read? I just re-read Eric Margolis's War at the Top of the World: The Struggle for Afghanistan, Kashmir, and Tibet.

recent reads & re-reads:
Re read "Gates of Fire" Stephen Pressler, and the two books he wrote about the Afghanistan Campaign
Infidel - Ayaan Hirsi Ali
A Fire Upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
Dragons of Eden - Carl Sagan
The entire "Master and Commander" series by Patrick O'Brian
Reading or Re-Reading now:
Reagan's Diaries
Art of War (2nd time, didn't like it compared to Clauswitz, Possony and others, trying again.)
Silverlock -- John Myers Myers
Destinies Series - Baen Books, Jerry Pournelle editor

I just read a FASCINATING work by someone, a former reporter, who over a 24 year period of research: interviews with retired personnel, FOIAs (and appeals of redactions due to security classification) filed with the USN, his coverage of the 'quid pro quo' testimony of John Walker (of the, now infamous, "Walker family") in the Government's case against another member of the spy ring, lays out a remarkable case of what really may have happened in the loss of the USS Scorpion (SSN 582) in 1968.. and tied it to other events (surficially unrelated) occuring at the time.

The book is "Scorpion Down". Ed Offley is the author.

I know the president's made some screwy moves lately, but still...

“This guy is brain dead,” Mr. Biden said to surprised applause and laughter from the crowd. “I know I’ll be quoted, I’ll be killed for that.”

...This from a guy who had half of his removed a few years back.
Biden just can't help himself
From the NYT blog, natch.

PS... what are all those %$#@ marks in and around my post? Never seen that here before... if it carries over to the real post, apology in advance...

Its looking bad for the democrats and jihadis, even the MSM is starting to get the facts straight. [Link: www.nytimes.com...] Does anybody have any info on Arrowhead Ripper, since it started I haven't heard anything about what is going on. Thanks Bob

More For Owl Gore

re: #184 Render

You're welcome Rendie!

Kirly