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Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 8:35:21 am PDT

Here’s some absolutely classic “progressive” cognitive dissonance mixed with cringing dhimmitude, with a creamy topping of unselfconscious hypocrisy, from Irish Nobel Peace Prize winner Betty Williams—who told the International Women’s Peace Conference in Dallas that she wanted to “kill George Bush.”

You know ... peacefully kill him.

Nobel Peace Prize winner Betty Williams came from Ireland to Texas to declare that President Bush should be impeached.

In a keynote speech at the International Women’s Peace Conference on Wednesday night, Ms. Williams told a crowd of about 1,000 that the Bush administration has been treacherous and wrong and acted unconstitutionally.

“Right now, I could kill George Bush,” she said at the Adam’s Mark Hotel and Conference Center in Dallas. “No, I don’t mean that. How could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that.”

About half the crowd gave her a standing ovation after she called for Mr. Bush’s removal from power.

“The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief,” she said. “Unless the president of the United States is held responsible for what he’s doing and what he has done, there’s no one in the Muslim world who will forgive him.” ...

Ms. Williams started her speech by asking every member of the audience to hug everyone around them.

Her little fantasy of nonviolent murder got the attention of the conference organizers, who acted quickly to distance themselves from the inevitable visit from the Secret Service.

Conference organizers have said that the conference is nonpartisan and that no one was invited to speak about the war in Iraq. After Ms. Williams finished her speech, conference chairwoman Carol Donovan took the podium to say that Ms. Williams did not speak for the conference – only herself.

“It’s important for us to separate the opinion of the person and the position of the conference,” Ms. Donovan said.

UPDATE at 7/12/07 8:57:09 am:

Last year, Betty Williams said the same thing to an audience of schoolchildren in Australia: Nobel Peace Laureate Wants to Kill.

“I have a very hard time with this word ‘non-violence’, because I don’t believe that I am non-violent,” said Ms Williams, 64.

“Right now, I would love to kill George Bush.” Her young audience at the Brisbane City Hall clapped and cheered.

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1 amrilusaguy  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:36:57am

She joins the list of non violent nobel winners

Arafat is another

2 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:37:01am

Wanted: Peace activist.

Thinking not required.

Thanks for the HT, Charles.

3 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:37:18am

It seems like a lot of prominent left-wingers want to kill George Bush.

4 Shug  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:37:22am
Ms. Williams started her speech by asking every member of the audience to hug everyone around them.

Drugs, not hugs.

/Antipsychotics in large doses are needed for this group

5 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:37:27am

"If I wasn't so peaceful, I'd do it quicker than Yasser Arafat..."

6 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:37:28am

Maybe she just wants to kill him softly with her song? Would that be a nonviolent murder?

7 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:38:01am

These people have no sense, nor try to make any. The cognitive dissonance is amazing.

8 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:38:06am

I'll bet she knows some IRA thugs that would try to do it.

9 Black George Bush  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:38:15am

The Nobel Prize continues to devalue faster than the Peso.

10 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:38:48am

"The muslim world is suffering beyond belief"

Reap ---> sow
Play ---> pay!

BTW, this "Irish peace activist" doesn't sound very peaceful to me. Wishing someone dead is the same in the eyes of G_d as killing them. Maybe they should revoke her "Nobel Peace Prize."

11 WombatOZ  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:39:05am

How come peace hippies are so violent?

12 Shug  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:39:40am

Can we rename it the Nobel RoP prize?

/you know with the desire to kill and all

13 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:39:43am
“No, I don’t mean that. How could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that.”

She didn't mean it before she meant it.

14 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:39:43am

Right now, I could kill Betty Williams. No I don't mean that.

/wink, wink, nudge, nudge, "Ya know what I mean."

15 madisonsfriend  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:39:48am

"The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief"- she must have been misquoted - she meant to say "The Muslim world right now is causing suffering beyond belief"

16 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:39:53am

Terminal case of "Moonbaticus Analcephalitis."
That is all.

-S-

17 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:39:56am

re: #9 Black George Bush

I wish I had said that.

18 alegrias  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:40:17am

Imagine the outrage if someone said that about Ted Kennedy--in Dallas Texas, of all places--November 1963 doesn't ring any bells for this Nobel dummkopf.

19 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:40:19am

And that woman won a Nobel Prize for peace of all categories. The irony.

20 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:40:38am

Non-violent death?
What is she going to do? Riverdance him to death?

21 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:40:50am
“Unless the president of the United States is held responsible for what he’s doing and what he has done, there’s no one in the Muslim world who will forgive him.” ...

Gosh, Madam Peace Laureate, sounds like you're about to start justifying jihadist terrorism. Or have you crossed that line already?

[spit]

22 so.cal.swede  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:40:52am

this is what cracks me up. You have the peaceniks that say "No More War" but if it came to that they had military power, they would not hesitate to wage war against who they considered war mongerers.

23 so.cal.swede  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:41:19am

re: #20 NoSubmission

Non-violent death?
What is she going to do? Riverdance him to death?

that is no peaceful death, Sir.

24 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:41:30am

She can be the Nobel Peace Prize Rage Girl.

25 kansas  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:41:32am

Well, wasn't Nobel the inventor of dynamite?

26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:41:34am
there’s no one in the Muslim world who will forgive him.”

Because the Muslim world is known for their forgiving nature.

27 Sizzlack  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:41:36am

“The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief,” she said. “Unless the president of the United States is held responsible for what he’s doing and what he has done, there’s no one in the Muslim world who will forgive him.”

Because last time I checked, it was George Bush who was setting up IEDs outside the green zone and drilling holes into heads of unlucky Iraqi citizens. How friggin nuts do you have to be to make a statement like that? The Muslim world shouldnt worry about Bush nearly as much as they should worry about their OWN DAMN citizens who kill each other with complete comfort and ease.

28 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:41:47am

I am deeply honored never to have received the Nobel Peace Prize.

29 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:42:10am

Give the lie to your cause and your award, and say it from a prison cell. I accept this kind of weasel-talking, with extreme protest, from my fellow citizens. But from foreigners on American soil, this is beyond the pale. This should be a Secret Service matter.

30 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:42:20am

Maybe she can hug him to death. That's non-violent, right?

31 Shug  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:42:38am

Can one receive a Nobel Peace Prize and Fiskie in the same year?

32 so.cal.swede  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:42:46am

re: #25 kansas

Well, wasn't Nobel the inventor of dynamite?


he invented it for peaceful purposes


(no, really)

33 Anji  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:43:00am

Hey...I'm beginning to think the name of this as the "Nobel Peace Prize" is wrong!

She says:
“Right now, I could kill George Bush,” she said at the Adam’s Mark Hotel and Conference Center in Dallas. “No, I don’t mean that. How could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that.”

She would "nonviolently kill" somebody if she could? Dead is dead. Violently or not. This "prize" should have been immediately ripped out of her hands.

34 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:43:00am

It's time to put this dimwit in a burka.

35 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:43:03am

re: #25 kansas
Your point? He invented it to make mining safer and was shocked with its military applications.

36 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:43:07am

re: #20 NoSubmission

Non-violent death?
What is she going to do? Riverdance him to death?

I'd call that extreme violence...

37 Sol Roth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:43:55am

Put her on a plane and send her home. Immediately.

Then, list her with other known terrorists and NEVER let her back into the United States or its territories.

38 grumpy old codger  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:44:03am

Quite simply, the Left strongly believes in that old slogan, "Error has no rights". If you don't tow the party line, then you're part of the problem. It's Stalinist in its simplicity, but brings us back to the old issue of "Quis custodiet ipsos custiodes". And the beat goes on.

39 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:44:24am

re: #21 Occasional Reader

“Unless the president of the United States is held responsible for what he’s doing and what he has done, there’s no one in the Muslim world who will forgive him.” ...

Gosh, Madam Peace Laureate, sounds like you're about to start justifying jihadist terrorism. Or have you crossed that line already?

[spit]

Read somewhere the other day that Ireland is turning muslim faster than anywhere in Europe.

40 froghat2k  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:44:31am

President Bush must be doing something right if this many people hate him with such passionate words. Geez, even guys like Hitler and Saddam had more love. People fear change

41 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:44:33am

re: #28 Occasional Reader That make TWO of us! What an absolutely perfect example of cognitive dissonance she emanates!

42 gpepper  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:44:41am

We could hug her until she stops breathing?

43 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:45:14am

"

A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledgehammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic." 1984 Part 1, Chapter 1, pg. 16
44 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:45:17am

It's a long flight from Ireland to Texas...She was probably drunk.

45 alegrias  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:45:33am

I'll thank her to keep her and her cohorts' scuzzy paws off my president.

46 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:45:36am

Would slipping a bunch of roofies and quaaludes in President Bush's coffee count as non-violent killing?


Of course, I'm not sure a moonbat foreigner with expressed desires to see the President die could get a job in the White House kitchen.

47 amrilusaguy  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:46:36am

re: #43 Peacekeeper

great quote

48 potatoes omelette  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:46:46am

OT

Today, ten years ago.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

49 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:46:57am

This morning, as I was listening to the POTUS hold a press briefing, I'd imagined him unloading on everyone about Islam, media bias, and the unpatriotic moral relativists who despise America. But we all know that will never happen. Political correctness has spread across the western hemisphere like a cancer. It's too late to stop it.

50 amrilusaguy  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:48:14am

re: #49 Milk Toast Intolerant

Political correctness has spread across the western hemisphere like a cancer. It's too late to stop it.

yes it has

we need to go back to calling a spade a spade

wait - can i say that?

51 so.cal.swede  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:48:14am

re: #49 Milk Toast Intolerant

This morning, as I was listening to the POTUS hold a press briefing, I'd imagined him unloading on everyone about Islam, media bias, and the unpatriotic moral relativists who despise America. But we all know that will never happen. Political correctness has spread across the western hemisphere like a cancer. It's too late to stop it.

and in it's footsteps, Islam is reaping the benefits and conquer PC-Disabled infidels.

52 Brees  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:48:16am

“The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief,” she said. “Unless the president of the United States is held responsible for what he’s doing and what he has done, there’s no one in the Muslim world who will forgive him.” ...

Ah yes. More BDS - Bush Derangement Syndrome.

The Muslim world is suffering because of their born at birth brainwashing, that Jews are dirty & the American co-conspirators are the reason for all their problems.

Damn imperialism!

53 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:48:51am

Why is it that the very people that brought us "Peace, Love and Let's All Get Along" are usually the most vile, venomous, vitriolic and sometimes violent people out there?

54 potatoes omelette  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:48:59am

re: #40 froghat2k

Fully agree.

55 alegrias  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:49:07am

#46 Ed Mahmoud

Ironically, the current White House chef is a female from the Phillipines-- where Charles daily reports moslems behead & run rampant! Her name is Christeta something or other.

56 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:49:36am

They hate Bush because he took out bad guys. He didn't negotiate instead. (Well, he tried, they refused, so then he acted, but facts are beside the question.)

Bush went to war instead of talking to people, they say. That is the ultimate 'peace activist' sin. Because their firmest belief is that war can always be avoided with talk.

Except with Bush. They can see so clearly how some evil person like Bush cannot be bargained with and must be taken out.

But can't quite carry that nascent logic through to the next step, that if it is okay to take him out because he is evil, maybe, just maybe, it was okay to take out the Taliban and Baathists from power and Bush was never really evil in the first place.

57 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:49:41am

re: #53 DesertSage

Why is it that the very people that brought us "Peace, Love and Let's All Get Along" are usually the most vile, venomous, vitriolic and sometimes violent people out there?

The difference between personal responsibility and "leave me alone and let me do what I want."

58 Sizzlack  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:49:57am

re: #53 DesertSage

because they have to care about everybody, they ultimately dont care about anybody

59 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:50:39am

I dearly love to slot Ms. betty and IRB in one of those Vegas "Rage in the Cage" match ups! Winner take the Peace Prize... can you imagine the betting action?

60 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:50:47am

Killing me softly... /singing to self...

61 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:51:04am
Irish Nobel Peace Prize winner Betty Williams

*SPIT*

/Irishman

62 Infidelsalwayswin  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:51:15am

Where is this 'Muslim world' and how to we get it away from our own?

63 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:51:23am

re: #55 alegrias

#46 Ed Mahmoud

Ironically, the current White House chef is a female from the Phillipines-- where Charles daily reports moslems behead & run rampant! Her name is Christeta something or other.

Don't we have any American chefs willing to work in the White House?

64 so.cal.swede  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:51:28am

re: #50 amrilusaguy

re: #49 Milk Toast Intolerant

Political correctness has spread across the western hemisphere like a cancer. It's too late to stop it.

yes it has

we need to go back to calling a spade a spade

wait - can i say that?

re: #58 Sizzlack

re: #53 DesertSage

because they have to care about everybody, they ultimately dont care about anybody

I think it's more the ultimate libertarian/liberal dream: to do exactly what you want (i.e. anarchy)

65 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:51:28am
“Right now, I could kill George Bush,” she said at the Adam’s Mark Hotel and Conference Center in Dallas. “No, I don’t mean that. How could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that.”

So she says she wants to kill George Bush, thinks better of it, and retracts the statement. The she questions the possibility of killing someone non-violently. She must have thought it was possible and then adds "I'd love to be able to do that".

She just said she'd love to kill the President.

66 jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:51:47am

re: #59 chee toe

I dearly love to slot Ms. betty and IRB in one of those Vegas "Rage in the Cage" match ups! Winner take the Peace Prize... can you imagine the betting action?

I vote for the UFC Octagon.

67 Adrenalyn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:51:54am

and if the Secret Service does not arrest her and send her to Gitmo then some deranged moonbat will likely take it upon themselves to see that her wish is carried out

but if W. won't take the gloves off then what does he expect
there are no rules of engagement with moonbats

68 Mongerel  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:52:02am

Rigoberta Menchú is still around? I thought she was totally discredited.

69 aqvik  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:52:16am

Speaking of Bush, how's this for a conservative reform platform?

70 world turned upside down  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:52:38am

The Islamic world will never forgive us for disposing Saddam Hussein. I mean the muslim world is "suffering beyond belief". Everybody knows they like to suffer more than that!

-Betty Williams

71 Mongerel  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:52:44am

Menchu with the thingie.

72 Carridine  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:52:49am
“The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief,” she said.

At which point, instead of focusing on the mullahs and imams and tyrants and thugs CAUSING THAT Muslim suffering, she suddenly started voicing death-wishes for the American president Mr Bush, whose efforts at PROTECTING Americans from the Muslim thugs have been quite successful to-date.

73 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:53:05am

re: #65 Aladin Sane

“Right now, I could kill George Bush,” she said at the Adam’s Mark Hotel and Conference Center in Dallas. “No, I don’t mean that. How could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that.”

So she says she wants to kill George Bush, thinks better of it, and retracts the statement. The she questions the possibility of killing someone non-violently. She must have thought it was possible and then adds "I'd love to be able to do that".

She just said she'd love to kill the President.

Maybe it dawned on her that she might receive a visit from the Secret Service over that statement.

74 ec marm  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:53:38am

This is the SECOND TIME she's made the same "Kill Bush" statement...[Link: blogcritics.org...]

75 Mongerel  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:53:40am

re: #73 galloping granny

we can hope!

76 Trumanite  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:53:45am

#20 NoSubmission 7/12/2007 8:40:38 am PDT reply quote
What is she going to do? Riverdance him to death?

Spit-take. New kb needed. Was worth it. Thanks for a hearty laff.

77 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:54:17am

re: #73 galloping granny

Maybe it dawned on her that she might receive a visit from the Secret Service over that statement.

I'm sure it did, and she might have been okay, had she not added "I'd love to be able to do that".

78 so.cal.swede  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:54:30am

oh and in defense of Sweden, i'd like you all to know that it's Norway's duty to hand out the Peace Prize.

/scampers off

79 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:54:45am

re: #50 amrilusaguy

I think the PC version is now:
"Call the cards as I see 'em"

80 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:54:55am

re: #73 galloping granny

re: #65 Aladin Sane

“Right now, I could kill George Bush,” she said at the Adam’s Mark Hotel and Conference Center in Dallas. “No, I don’t mean that. How could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that.”
So she says she wants to kill George Bush, thinks better of it, and retracts the statement. The she questions the possibility of killing someone non-violently. She must have thought it was possible and then adds "I'd love to be able to do that".

She just said she'd love to kill the President.

Maybe it dawned on her that she might receive a visit from the Secret Service over that statement.

That, and her 'non-violent', peace-prize winning mask was slipping. She was probably more worried about being found out as a fraud than the secret service.

81 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:54:57am
“The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief,” she said.


arrgh.

You - Betty Williams are an empty headed twit.

“Right now, I could kill Betty Williams. “No, I don’t mean that. How could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that.”

It’s important for us to separate the opinion of the person and the position of LGF,” Charles Johnson says.

82 amrilusaguy  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:55:03am

re: #72 Carridine

“The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief,” she said.

At which point, instead of focusing on the mullahs and imams and tyrants and thugs CAUSING THAT Muslim suffering, she suddenly started voicing death-wishes for the American president Mr Bush, whose efforts at PROTECTING Americans from the Muslim thugs have been quite successful to-date.

i want to emphasize this

who is watching the arabs when they use classic diversion tactics to keep the arab masses downtrodden and the masses attention away from what really hurts them as a people

why dont we here about that, why doesnt the peace prize holder not address this issue?

83 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:55:11am

Here's the DMN's deceptive headline:

Nobel laureate calls for removal of Bush

and the subhead:

Irish peace activist's speech at Dallas event gets standing ovation

84 ballantrae  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:55:30am

What an ill coward.

-ron

85 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:55:48am

re: #66 jetpilot1101

LOL!

86 haywood_jay  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:55:50am

This is what happens when women are let out of the kitchen.

j/k

87 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:55:51am

re: #8 David E

I'll bet she knows some IRA thugs that would try to do it.

Easy on the thug talk David E. The English did not come to Ireland to organize local elections and support a fledgling democratic government.

They came as conquerors and the IRA was a natural reaction to their behaviour.

88 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:56:09am

In defense of Ireland, not one single member of my mother's Irish-American family is a moonbat.

89 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:56:25am

re: #73 galloping granny

And, are you still up? LOL What part of the country do you live in?

/I'm in the South

90 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:56:50am

re: #53 DesertSage

Why is it that the very people that brought us "Peace, Love and Let's All Get Along" are usually the most vile, venomous, vitriolic and sometimes violent people out there?

Is it because they're hypocrites and cowards but they don't know it, yet? They wouldn't dare offend Muslims, Islam, or their pedophile prophet, but lambast the POTUS, the military, and America? That's easy.

91 Carridine  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:56:57am

re: #82 amrilusaguy

She CANNOT, or else she deals with CAUSATIVE FACTORS instead of GUT INSTINCT.

Her feelings trump logic, reason and rational thought, AmRealUSA-Guy!

92 alegrias  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:57:21am

These peace prize winners are just dy-no-mite.
Where do we get such losers.
Too much time spent "understanding"
IRA terrorist logic
back in ol' Ireland.

Like Spain's ETA terrorists
(one person's "freedom fighter"/sarc)
who killed innocent politicians
in Pamplona, the running of the bulls town,
to silence them.

Right, Potatoes Omelet (@ #48)?
Miguel Angel Blanco was martyred
by ETArras to silence a politician
ten years ago today.

93 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:57:43am

re: #53 DesertSage Hey Sage! They're only violent (and of course vile, venomous, and vitriolic ) if you disagree with them! When I was in Law School there was a Police Riot - seriously. Big Block party being held (a tradition for nearly 100 years) without a permit. Cops with no shields, no nametags, full riot gear attacked all the students gathered more or less peacefully, with "magic" in the air, and without warning, cops charged en masse and used nightsticks to bludgeon students and tear gas was thrown through the windows of restaurants and pizza parlors where students usually hung out.
A bunch of us retreated to my apartment where all the lefty loonies started ascribing all sorts of horrible attitudes towards the cops (the County Sheriff with all 10 of his men stood at the entrance to the footbridge, all with pump shotguns locked and loaded and denied entry to the campus to the Ithaca PD.). SO while they are all trashing all law enforcement types as bigots etc., I innocently mentioned the brave Sherriff and said I guess not all law enforcement types are bigots. I was SHUNNED for the next week or so. Can't interfere with the leftist mindset or you'll pay for it!

94 TMF  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:57:52am
The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief

Let me guess who she believes to be at fault for this phenomenon...

-Not the mullahs starving their people to death in Iran over their bloodlust for the destruction of Israel and acquisition of nukes

-Not the marauding islamic killers in Darfur

-Not the genocidal terrorists in Iraq blowing up scores of innocent women and children on a daily basis, destroying schools, power grids, oil wells, and mosques

-Not the government of Saudi Arabia keeping its people filled with illiterate Jew hate

-Not the Madrassas of Pakistan indoctrinating children to be suicide murderers

Nope. None of those.

She is a morons moron

95 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:58:02am

Scratch a leftist and you'll find anger, violence and the desire to dominate and control the people they see as their inferiors.

96 Frank_Mtl  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:58:08am

Further proof of how irrelevant the Nobel prize has become.

97 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:58:12am

re: #77 Aladin Sane

re: #73 galloping granny

Maybe it dawned on her that she might receive a visit from the Secret Service over that statement.

I'm sure it did, and she might have been okay, had she not added "I'd love to be able to do that".

And were it not the SECOND time (at least) that she has made this threat -

Nobel Peace Prize Winner: "I Would Love To Kill George Bush"
Written by David Flanagan
Published July 25, 2006

Nobel Laureate Betty Williams, winner of the Peace Prize in 1976 for co-founding Ireland's peace movement, on Monday told hundreds of school children in Brisbane, Australia that "I would love to kill George Bush." Ms. Williams' statement was greeted with applause and cheers from the audience.

See link in #74

Sounds to me like someone that needs to be on the No Fly list. Two identical threats to kill the POTUS within a year is at least one too many. Once might be a "mis-speak" but two? Ain't buying what she's selling.

98 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:58:15am

The visual is stunning!
LOL
re: #76 Trumanite

99 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:58:16am

And who wouldn't expect the keynote speaker at a conference titled "the International Women’s Peace Conference" to include death threats?

/

100 jcm  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:58:42am

Peace is the highest, most noble, purest aspiration. However they have misdefined peace. Their definition is that peace is the absence of PHYSICAL conflict. That the most moral position is that regardless of the provocation a physical means to stop the provocation is immoral.

However peace is not the height of human attainment. LIBERTY is. Liberty requires active measure to maintain, including violence. The surest, greatest, most secure peace is the peace that a society that embraces LIBERTY achieves.

The peace of the L³ is the peace of slaves.

101 froghat2k  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:58:44am

re: #49 Milk Toast Intolerant

This morning, as I was listening to the POTUS hold a press briefing, I'd imagined him unloading on everyone about Islam, media bias, and the unpatriotic moral relativists who despise America. But we all know that will never happen. Political correctness has spread across the western hemisphere like a cancer. It's too late to stop it.

I love how people sit behind a keyboard and have the answers for everthing. Ummm, he's the President. Not a WWF wrestler challenging someone to a fight.

102 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:59:00am

re: #81 unrealizedviewpoint

“The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief,” she said.

arrgh.

You - Betty Williams are an empty headed twit.

“Right now, I could kill Betty Williams. “No, I don’t mean that. How could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that.”

It’s important for us to separate the opinion of the person and the position of LGF,” Charles Johnson says.


Maybe the muslims should seperate themselves from that koran thingie and they'd reduce that "suffering beyond belief". Pun intended.

103 aqvik  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:59:09am

The way things are going lately, I find it impossible to trust our govt for much of anything. The reason Bush is so hated is partly because he comes across as too arrogant to take the time to communicate effectively. I no longer believe that he can't, because I've seen him do it on rare occasions. I now believe he just doesn't want to. I'd still support him over any dems that are running, but he has lost a lot of my respect, fwiw.

104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:59:27am

OT

Lets here it for the Lebanese Army:

Lebanese army pounds Nahr al-Bared

Lebanese artillery units have been firing shells into the Nahr al-Bared Palestinian refugee camp in the north of the country after two soldiers were killed by al-Qaeda inspired militants.The army have been battling the fighters of Fatah al-Islam there for nearly eight weeks. There is precious little of the camp left.

When you know where the enemy is, you pound the crap out of them till nothing is left. If you decide to tolerate the enemy in your midst, then be prepared to loose it all.

Level Gaza now.

105 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 8:59:32am

re: #95 doppelganglander

Scratch a leftist and you'll find anger, violence and the desire to dominate and control the people they see as their inferiors.

True and I've seen it up close at every leftist demonstration I've been to. The police are always needed to restrain them.

106 Edward Halper  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:00:43am
"The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief," she said.

It is statements like this that justify and encourage jihadi violence. I wish Betty Williams could held responsible for the real suffering she, and others like her, has caused.

107 jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:00:45am

re: #104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hip Hip Horray for the Lebanese Army! Now if only we would do the same thing in Iraq and the IDF woulf do the same thing to the West Bank and Gaza. Oh to dream...

108 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:01:03am

re: #97 galloping granny

Sounds to me like someone that needs to be on the No Fly list. Two identical threats to kill the POTUS within a year is at least one too many. Once might be a "mis-speak" but two? Ain't buying what she's selling.

Deport the bitch. If she said it twice it's part of her prepared remarks. The statement and the denial were scripted. She meant what she said.

109 Carridine  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:01:08am

re: #97 galloping granny

re: #77 Aladin Sane

re: #73 galloping granny

Maybe it dawned on her that she might receive a visit from the Secret Service over that statement.

Nobel Peace Prize Winner: "I Would Love To Kill George Bush"
Written by David Flanagan
Published July 25, 2006

Sounds to me like someone that needs to be on the No Fly list. Two identical threats to kill the POTUS within a year is at least one too many. Once might be a "mis-speak" but two? Ain't buying what she's selling.

And if NOT a "threat" per se, then at the very least, after TWO TIMES, it is INCITEMENT!

110 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:01:10am

re: #89 gop_patriot

re: #73 galloping granny

And, are you still up? LOL What part of the country do you live in?

/I'm in the South

I'm in the Northeast. The kiddo is at camp so the house seems empty. Woke up at 4. Still up. :( Bored. Very boring without the kiddo.

111 aqvik  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:01:17am

I think we should stop calling the left, the left. It gives them legitimacy. Let's call them what they are: subversive supremacists.

112 John Schneider  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:01:24am

Sorry, I find it interesting that she hasn't been given a visit by the guys with cool weapons, sunglasses and little earpieces yet.

BTW, what the Hell is someone from Northern Ireland doing lecturing US about how much suffering is being caused?

113 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:01:41am

This could generate some more LGF threads:

Two other Nobel Peace Prize winners, American activist Jody Williams and Rigoberta Menchú Tum of Guatemala, will speak this week as part of the conference. Jody Williams, who was in the audience Wednesday, has also indicated she would speak about Mr. Bush.

114 Fritz_Katz  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:01:42am

Interesting footnote: Ronald Reagan praised Betty Williams in a radio address to the nation in 1977.

115 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:01:58am

And of course being Irish she is an authority on the American Constitution. I doubt she has even read Blackstone. The usual big mouth small mind peace prize winner. These guys/gals could just as easily have been awarded the Darwin award in practically all cases. She should be declared a persona non gratia and returned to her country of origin with all future visas revoked.

I really wish these creeps would at least take the time to study the law a tad before they shoot their mouths off. Constitutional law is a complex area, however there are certain basic things that are there. Killing a sitting president is not one of them.

116 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:02:14am

I see in the update that she already had a history of wanting to kill our President. So she STILL gets invited to speak at a "Peace Conference" after that? Re-defines the meaning of the word peace, I guess.

117 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:02:29am

re: #34 Milk Toast Intolerant

It's time to put this dimwit in a burka.

Wont' be the first whore in a bag.

118 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:02:39am
How could you nonviolently kill somebody?

Ever hear of purdah?

119 Axiom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:03:00am

The left seems to be sufferring from sort of reverse orientalist depression. Instead of projecting a western view on the ME. Now the western view is accepting whatever the ME tells them.

Bin Laden isn't responsible for creating extremism in the west. He only ordered all the Imams that supported the Afghan Mujahideen but would not support taking the fight to West to be killed. He was consolidating the Jihad Money Train a decade before President Bush II.

120 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:03:00am

Off to lunch.

Later Lizards!

121 alegrias  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:03:18am

She doesn't belong in the Red Tent,
Betty should have been at the Red Mosque.

/reference to peacelovin' Pakistani Lal Masjid
where some
mullahs made their last stand
yesterday.

/Betty forgets moslem human shields are children & women

122 Colonel Panik  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:03:26am

re: #39 galloping granny



Read somewhere the other day that Ireland is turning muslim faster than anywhere in Europe.


That'll last right up until they issue a fatwa against Guinness.
I expect you'll see a lot of Irish Rage Boys after that!

123 firebreather  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:03:33am

People only get Nobel Prizes because of their leftist politics.

You could cure cancer, but if you were deemed to be conservative, you'd never get the Nobel...and the NY Times wouldn't even report that you'd cured cancer. It would be a non-event. Instead, they'd run some celebratory story about how another scientist got the Nobel for hypothesizing that some dogs & cats could be gay or bisexual.

This raving relativist from Ireland is just like Norman Mailer or the late Kurt Vonnegut & all the other leftists who congratulate one another for their great "bravery" in standing up to phantom evils like America or Christianity, but who avert their gaze & go mute when real evil, perpetarted by Muslims worldwide, is plainly apparent for all to behold.

124 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:03:47am

She dosen't see the irony in wanting the President dead while in Dallas.

Was she on the grassy knoll when she made the statement?

125 aqvik  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:03:57am

re: #115 Shr_Nfr

She should be declared a persona non gratia and returned to her country of origin with all future visas revoked.

That would require the administration to actually enforce existing immigration laws... won't happen

126 BIG  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:04:15am

Maybe it was Betty Williams that killed Farfur Mouse?

127 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:04:20am

She demonstrates perfectly the appropriateness of the motto:

Peace Through Superior Firepower

128 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:04:21am

re: #118 Sharmuta

How could you nonviolently kill somebody?

Ever hear of purdah?

Given the typical Leftist, perhaps they plan to bore us to death.

129 Plato  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:04:29am

again...again... and again,

no mention of freeing Kuwaitis from Saddam and the Kuwaitis booting 300,000 palestinians out to the wind just like that.

no mention of saving Bosnians.

no mention of all the Moslems admitted to schools in the USA or in the hospitals in the USA AND Israel.

Just another stupid leftist blinded by illogical reasoning.

130 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:04:32am

re: #105 NoSubmission

True and I've seen it up close at every leftist demonstration I've been to. The police are always needed to restrain them.

Here's a photo of two demonstrations, left and right, with the cops in between.

Note which way the cops are facing, and which side they felt it was safe enough to turn their backs on.

131 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:04:33am

The Blogosphere for Killers

There is no more unchallenged verity in our times than that the World Wide Web, the Internet, is a boon to mankind. But as with nuclear or biological warfare, the Web is a dual-use technology. Technically adept Muslims, using out-of-the-box PC software and hardware, are outputting an electronic torrent of slick Web sites, discussion forums, videos, e-magazines and long-form movies, all with one purpose--to incite Muslims to join the jihad against the enemies of Islam in Baghdad, London, Glasgow or New York. Forget those Iraqi attack videos on YouTube; this is a sophisticated, globally distributed propaganda operation.

/WSJ hit with cluebat

132 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:05:01am

re: #126 BIG

Maybe it was Betty Williams that killed Farfur Mouse?


Farfur was never near the grassy knoll...

133 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:05:07am

re: #101 froghat2k


I love how people sit behind a keyboard and have the answers for everthing. Ummm, he's the President. Not a WWF wrestler challenging someone to a fight.

When did I suggested I had the answer for everything? If you do not see the dangerous effects that political correctness has had on this war against radical Islam, then I can't help you.

134 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:05:27am

68 Mongerel,

Rigoberta Menchú is still around? I thought she was totally discredited.

She's currently running for President of Guatemala.

/Just because her book was fabricated doesn't mean it's not true.

135 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:05:34am
Last year, Betty Williams said the same thing to an audience of schoolchildren in Australia

This woman is nuts.

136 Ludicrous  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:05:39am

Maybe someday a speaker at one of these Women's conferences will describe in detail the way some Musilms prepare their daughters for womanhood?

The audience will squirm in their chairs as the painful irony of admiring Islam due to BDS sets in.

137 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:05:53am

I expect the Secret Service is already on the case. The first time she said it was in another country, now she said it here in a public forum. A big no-no.

Why does everything and everyone who claims to be for peace make death threats on a near constant basis? Sorry for the rhetorical question.

138 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:06:06am

re: #106 Edward Halper

The Muslim world is suffering beyond belief from the fact that their leaders are genocidal dictators, thugs, lowlife scum sucking ideologues, and theocrats who seek to impose Islam on everyone around them and will slaughter those who oppose them. The Muslim world is full of Islamists who cow those who would otherwise oppose them with threats of violence and being branded apostates - a death sentence (and we know how they love to impose death sentences in the Muslim world - stoning those who commit adultery for example).

No, most of the violence in the Muslim world is Muslim on Muslim violence, and the US has done more to limit such violence than any Muslim leader has.

139 kulthur  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:06:07am

Didn't this same person say the same thing last year some time? Although I think she was outside the USA at that time.

"The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief" - ha. Suffer is as suffer does.

I remember Don Rumsfeld's slightly exasperated remark at some press conference that, "some people seem to think the natural state of humanity is wealth and prosperity - well, it isn't. The natural state is poverty."

I love how people have still failed to recognize that brutal internicine fighting, theo-political splitting, theft, ignorance, fanaticism and tyranny have always been even more intense in the East than in the West - even in pre-Islamic times, even during the Islamic Golden Age, and beyond doubt now. It is striking how the Left and its co-tards' nihilistic enthusiasm is predicated simply upon taking the enormous scientific and philosophical ingenuity of the West and its products for granted. Just look at Marx's philosophy! But it's even more striking when you observe that attitude in, say, Ho Chi Minh's writings, or read about how it manifests itself in Indonesian village Islamists in VS Naipaul's Among the Believers.

140 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:06:46am
“The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief,” she said. “Unless the president of the United States is held responsible for what he’s doing and what he has done, there’s no one in the Muslim world who will forgive him.” ...

Note to "peace activists" everywhere: Being angry is not suffering.

141 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:07:08am

re: #138 lawhawk
and they probably think we're stupid as hell for doing precisely that...

142 bosforus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:07:27am
there’s no one in the Muslim world who will forgive him

there's a shocker, considering that fatwas are handed out like ice cream cones

143 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:07:28am

re: #115 Shr_Nfr Good Lord NO! Please let them remain ignorant of the facts, otherwise they lose whatever entertainment value they have at all!

144 John Schneider  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:07:49am

Oh, and this isn't the first time she's pulled this stunt. She's done the same thing at least one other time in Australia.

145 Yank in the EU  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:07:52am

This is called un-assailable leftist logic.

By saying, "I would like to murder George Bush in a non-violent way" they ascend to higher plane of existence in which they are beyond moral or logical reproach.

146 froghat2k  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:07:58am

re: #103 aqvik

The way things are going lately, I find it impossible to trust our govt for much of anything. The reason Bush is so hated is partly because he comes across as too arrogant to take the time to communicate effectively. I no longer believe that he can't, because I've seen him do it on rare occasions. I now believe he just doesn't want to. I'd still support him over any dems that are running, but he has lost a lot of my respect, fwiw.

aqvik , what else do you want him to do? He's clearly made the case and many Americans just don't want to hear it. All they care about is buying a 600 dollar phone. There is only so much he can do without support from others. Tony Blair was a great communicator and he got thrown out of government.

147 Plato  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:07:59am

#124 bulwrk

Where is Jack Ruby when we need him?

148 Fritz_Katz  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:08:03am

Another interesting footnote: this isn't the first time Betty Williams threatened to "KILL GEORGE BUSH".

On July 24, 2006, while delivering a speech at the Earth Dialogue forums, Williams told school children at the Brisbane City Hall, "I have a very hard time with this word 'non-violence,' because I don't believe that I am non-violent." She went on to say, "Right now, I would love to kill George Bush"

149 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:08:23am

Oh yes. I've seen it many times. And I'm sure I'll see it again.

re: #130 Silhouette

150 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:08:27am

re: #87 experiencedtraveller

The original IRA pre 1920 was just that. The IRA of the 1970's killed because they could and incidently found a cause for their murders. They were thugs, they even found ways to justify killing catholic girls.

151 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:08:32am

re: #110 galloping granny

re: #89 gop_patriot

re: #73 galloping granny

And, are you still up? LOL What part of the country do you live in?

/I'm in the South

I'm in the Northeast. The kiddo is at camp so the house seems empty. Woke up at 4. Still up. :( Bored. Very boring without the kiddo.

Ah, so your 4 was my 3 (Central Time). I homeschool a 17, 10, and 4 year old, so they're here 24/7/365- when even one is gone it seems really empty around here. When they're all gone, I'm with you, it's boring! But I get lots more naps in. LOL

/are there enough numbers in this post? heh

152 Adrenalyn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:08:37am

re: #111 aqvik

I have been calling them

submission supporters for years now
or
surrender supporters

take your pick, it sums up their position - on their knees awaiting the headchoppers

153 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:08:44am

re: #87 experiencedtraveller


Well, yes, if you're talking the early part of the 20th Century.


But since the establishmen of the Irish free state in the South, with only the Northern counties with Scots-Irish/Protestant majorities loyal to the Crown left under British control, the IRA has evolved into a Marxist group, that has killed civilians, and had ties to the Soviets, the PLO and Libyan intelligence. Not saying there hasn't been discrimination against Irish-Catholics in majority Scots-Irish/Protestant Northern Ireland, but nothing that justifies bombing pubs and veterans' parades.


So, if you're talking the IRA of the last five decades or so, thug isn't a bad description.

154 Iron Fist[deleted]  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:09:10am
155 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:10:55am

re: #138 lawhawk Extremely fine post. I mean truly excellent.
Thanks.

156 pat  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:10:58am

I come in Peace/

157 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:11:16am

re: #148 Fritz_Katz

Another interesting footnote: this isn't the first time Betty Williams threatened to "KILL GEORGE BUSH".


On July 24, 2006, while delivering a speech at the Earth Dialogue forums, Williams told school children at the Brisbane City Hall, "I have a very hard time with this word 'non-violence,' because I don't believe that I am non-violent." She went on to say, "Right now, I would love to kill George Bush"

I remember that. When I first saw this thread, I had a sense of deja vu.

158 Mongerel  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:11:25am

re: #134 Ringo the Gringo
She's currently running for President of Guatemala.

Boy have I been out of touch.

159 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:11:25am

re: #123 firebreather

People only get Nobel Prizes because of their leftist politics.

You could cure cancer, but if you were deemed to be conservative, you'd never get the Nobel...and the NY Times wouldn't even report that you'd cured cancer. It would be a non-event. Instead, they'd run some celebratory story about how another scientist got the Nobel for hypothesizing that some dogs & cats could be gay or bisexual.

This raving relativist from Ireland is just like Norman Mailer or the late Kurt Vonnegut & all the other leftists who congratulate one another for their great "bravery" in standing up to phantom evils like America or Christianity, but who avert their gaze & go mute when real evil, perpetarted by Muslims worldwide, is plainly apparent for all to behold.

WELL SAID.

160 pat  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:11:34am

Washington Times takes on CAIR:
[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

161 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:11:34am

Well, with the bike riding, Bush may be in too good of physical condition for this.


But if Bush were like Bill Clinton, easily tempted, and with heart problems, Betty could make wild passionate love, all night, until finally the President suffered an M-I and passed away.

Like Nelson Rockefeller.

162 kynna  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:11:55am

I've got Irish in my blood and it absolutely curdles when people like this open their mouths. What a despicable harpy.

On a happier note, Steve Buscemi is making a film about Theo Van Gogh! He's a wild card, so I don't know how it will turn out, but it's nice to see someone gives a cr*p.
Here's the link to the interview.

163 amphibian  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:12:02am

re: #11 WombatOZ

How come peace hippies are so violent?

At a guess, I'd say it's because they spent their lives not thinking of violence, except in terms of "it's icky!". This only works if you never find yourself in a situation where violence is necessary. If you have never thought about when something might not be worth fighting for after all, you may find yourself overreacting once the anger kicks in. Human instincts are by definition, not civilized.

About this Nobel Peace Prize winner, I do not know. Given the track record of the folks who have been awarding these things, I would not be surprised to learn that she is not all that touchy-feely-with-rainbows peaceful after all.

164 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:12:19am

OT

I know I left for lunch already, but there's a really cool picture on the front of today's Investor's Business Daily. It shows an armed man that appears to be a terrorist (oops, insurgent) hold a gun behind two blindfolded arab looking men. The caption reads "An Iraq Militant from the 1920 Revolution Brigade guards two suspected Al-Qaida-in-Iraq members who were captured Wednesday in Baqouba. Breakaway members of the brigade, a Sunni militia, have aligned themselves with U.S. troops battling the feared terrorist group, formerly led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi."

I just thought it was too cool to see the local militia signing up to help the U.S. troops.

Now lunch.

165 aqvik  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:13:00am

re: #146 froghat2k

re: #103 aqvik

The way things are going lately, I find it impossible to trust our govt for much of anything. The reason Bush is so hated is partly because he comes across as too arrogant to take the time to communicate effectively. I no longer believe that he can't, because I've seen him do it on rare occasions. I now believe he just doesn't want to. I'd still support him over any dems that are running, but he has lost a lot of my respect, fwiw.

aqvik , what else do you want him to do? He's clearly made the case and many Americans just don't want to hear it. All they care about is buying a 600 dollar phone. There is only so much he can do without support from others. Tony Blair was a great communicator and he got thrown out of government.

I think I understand your frustration, but you paint with too broad a brush. I know lots of Americans who could care less about iPhones or Hilton, but feel betrayed by a President who slashes his base of support and betrays the conservative principles he supposedly stood for.

And he keeps people around him who do nothing of value: Gonzalez, Chertoff, just to name two. I believe underneath his arrogance he is a decent man, but it is his arrogance and scoffing attitude that leads him to appear as not being accountable to anyone. Communication is key to effective leadership, and well, you know the rest.

166 firebreather  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:13:17am

Another Nobel-type from Ireland, Bono, goes around the world preaching that America is the root of all evil; that consumerism & oil gluttony, materialism, American selfishness, global warming, poverty in Africa, Islamophobia & other threats to world peace all originate in America. And he always has his hand out like some common tramp, collecting money for his crusade against America.

Bono says American trade policies are grotesquely unfair, not seeming to realize that American is now running a nearly $1 trillion annual trade deficit with the world.

Oh, and Ireland exports 5X as much to America as it imports from America (source: Any World Alamanac).

Hypocrites to the right of them, hypocrites to the left of them, hypocrites all on the Left of the "Nobel 600."

167 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:13:19am

re: #151 gop_patriot

re: #110 galloping granny

re: #89 gop_patriot

re: #73 galloping grannyAnd, are you still up? LOL What part of the country do you live in?

/I'm in the South

I'm in the Northeast. The kiddo is at camp so the house seems empty. Woke up at 4. Still up. :( Bored. Very boring without the kiddo.

Ah, so your 4 was my 3 (Central Time). I homeschool a 17, 10, and 4 year old, so they're here 24/7/365- when even one is gone it seems really empty around here. When they're all gone, I'm with you, it's boring! But I get lots more naps in. LOL

/are there enough numbers in this post? heh

I homeschool the kiddo too - 10. Just the one though. We "borrow" a couple of kids once a week or so. After I've had the one nap I don't know what to do with myself.

168 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:14:03am

re: #146 froghat2k

re: #103 aqvik

The way things are going lately, I find it impossible to trust our govt for much of anything. The reason Bush is so hated is partly because he comes across as too arrogant to take the time to communicate effectively. I no longer believe that he can't, because I've seen him do it on rare occasions. I now believe he just doesn't want to. I'd still support him over any dems that are running, but he has lost a lot of my respect, fwiw.

aqvik , what else do you want him to do? He's clearly made the case and many Americans just don't want to hear it. All they care about is buying a 600 dollar phone. There is only so much he can do without support from others. Tony Blair was a great communicator and he got thrown out of government.

Bush can try again. He can be more articulate. Study the articles written by the people in that room, learn where they stand, and call them out on it. Take his case to the American people. Stop being politically correct. Call our enemy what it is: Islam. Stop sidestepping the term "Islamic fascists" because it might hurt the feelings of the people at CAIR. And don't avoid the press.

Simple things, froghat2k.

169 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:14:52am

I live in California, I'm "suffering beyond belief" because my state is run by people that think like Betty.

Unless Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are held responsible for what they're doing and what they've done, no Conservative in the Leftist world will forgive them!

170 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:15:09am

Buscemi is a moonbat. I'm sure this film will be just like Angelina Jolie's lefty version of Daniel Pearl's murder currently bombing at theatres near you.
re: #162 kynna

I've got Irish in my blood and it absolutely curdles when people like this open their mouths. What a despicable harpy.

On a happier note, Steve Buscemi is making a film about Theo Van Gogh! He's a wild card, so I don't know how it will turn out, but it's nice to see someone gives a cr*p.
Here's the link to the interview.

171 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:15:10am

re: #164 Aladin Sane


Actually if you read Michael Yon, this isn't a "break away group". Rather the entire 1920 brigade has switched.

172 Cartman  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:15:28am

This woman needs to be detained and interrogated, immediately. Period.

173 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:15:32am

Hate to see her fall into the hans of the ROPers and be non-violently gangpleasured to non-life.

I really mean that, I hope she gets no pleasure from it.

174 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:15:58am

OT:
Musharraf is saying the right things now, but what took him so long to be hit over the head with a cluestick?

President Pervez Musharraf says he is determined that extremism and terrorism will be eradicated in Pakistan.

He was speaking in a televised address to the nation after officials said 75 bodies had been found at the radical Red Mosque in Islamabad.

Troops launched a 36 hour attack on the mosque early on Tuesday to flush extremists out of the mosque complex.

For months clerics and students had been defying the authorities in their campaign for Sharia law in the capital.

Students had kidnapped police as well as Islamabad residents they considered to be engaged in un-Islamic activity.

175 neverquit  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:16:42am

Let's follow the thinking of this woman as the basis of her opinion is as follows:

I could kill George Bush for invading Iraq but would rather have Saddam Hussein still be in power and "contained"...

Whatever the hell they mean by contained...

176 miamitech  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:17:21am

isnt the IRA a little obsolete. I mean they dont blow themselves up. They always call to say there will be a bomb about to explode.

177 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:17:55am

re: #170 NoSubmission

Buscemi is a moonbat. I'm sure this film will be just like Angelina Jolie's lefty version of Daniel Pearl's murder currently bombing at theatres near you.

That is a shame, because the story behind his death is one that really needs a worldwide audience.

178 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:18:01am

re: #167 galloping granny

I homeschool the kiddo too - 10. Just the one though. We "borrow" a couple of kids once a week or so. After I've had the one nap I don't know what to do with myself.

Well, there's always LGF. ;) And the new seasons of Monk and Psych start this week...
LOL
/nothing like improving oneself by watching lots of TV

179 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:18:52am

re: #175 neverquit

Let's follow the thinking of this woman as the basis of her opinion is as follows:

I could kill George Bush for invading Iraq but would rather have Saddam Hussein still be in power and "contained"...

Whatever the hell they mean by contained...

It means that he's only allowed to kill hundreds of thousands of people within his own borders.

180 looking closely  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:18:53am

I'd pay cash money to see Bush and this Moonbat engage in hand-to-hand combat (to the death is optional. . .but I'd pay more for that ticket).

My money is on Bush.

181 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:18:56am

re: #176 miamitech


Many times they didn't call and people died. Sometimes they do call, particularly in England, they almost never called in Ulster.

182 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:19:33am

re: #153 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet Ed - watched a three hour show on Discovery Channel about 10 years ago and it was all about Ireland/Great Britain. What I so strongly remember were two things: a) Ian Paisley *spit* and some Catholic big deal were arguing that the Prots did such and such to the Catholics somewhere in Ireland over a thousand years ago and the other said well the the Catholics started it at such and such also over a thousand years ago; my immediate thought was "Jeebus, if y'all don't LET GO, they'll never be peace in Ireland and never be a united Ireland." and b) the video tape of about 20 Catholic 12 year olds being escorted by the Police through a Prot neighborhood to get to a Catholic school some where and the sidewalks were lined up with ADULT Prots who were screaming the most awful things at these 12 year old girls and spitting on them, ALL BECAUSE THEY WERE CATHOLIC.
And I remember thinking: the hatred runs so deep and has lasted so long it'll neve be settled peacefully.

183 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:19:58am

We lizards could make a better film about Theo Van Gogh.

re: #177 EC Marm

184 TimeQuake  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:20:05am

International Women's Peace Conference

Contact them.

[Link: www.womenspeaceconference.org...]

185 bosforus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:20:18am

can someone help me out, is a fatwa religiously binding or is more of an opinion of a religious leader?

186 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:20:58am

re: #178 gop_patriot

re: #167 galloping granny

I homeschool the kiddo too - 10. Just the one though. We "borrow" a couple of kids once a week or so. After I've had the one nap I don't know what to do with myself.

Well, there's always LGF. ;) And the new seasons of Monk and Psych start this week...
LOL
/nothing like improving oneself by watching lots of TV

Actually, my rennet should be here this afternoon and I intend to improve myself by learning to make cheese. The best improvement I have ever found to TV is the day I threw the set out the front door into the driveway.

187 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:21:06am

re: #181 David E

no phone call tried..
many died...


/taking a page from the "Bush lied people died" mantra...

188 miamitech  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:21:27am

re: #181 David E

Yes this is true. When I lived in london in the late 80's early 90's i had been a par t of several evacuations in the tube at hammersmith bridge. Every time the cops would say
"you are lucky your not in belfast" they dont warn there.

189 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:22:00am

Just for reference, below is Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 41, Section 871 of the U.S. Code. Note especially the second half of this statute ("...otherwise makes any such threat..."). There was a rather famous case in the 60s involving a threat to LBJ where the Supreme Court ruled that some forms of heated discussion were allowed, but this only came after a world of hurt and investigation for those involved. I think that if the Secret Service hasn't talked to her here, the DHS might be talking to her if she ever comes back. If they ever get their act straight:
(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

190 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:22:39am

re: #185 bosforus

Fatwa.

191 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:22:45am

re: #182 realwest


Let's be honest, the Unionists were no better than the IRA and the situation was more than ugly.

Let me ask you a question, who is more inocent the Crips or the Bloods?

192 Colonel Panik  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:22:53am

Slightly OT
Lynne Stewart, Terrorist Lawyer and Jihad enabler, sentenced to less time than "Scooter" Libby...

This is pathetic.

193 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:22:59am

Maybe Betty is the long banned LGF poster "Voice of Iceland" who used to get Zulubaby so pissed off with her liberal diatribes and vaguely (and sometimes not so vaguely) anti-semitic opinions.

194 Pope Insouciance IV  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:23:17am

Since she's Irish I'm content to wait for her husband to come home drunk and hit her in the face with a coal shovel.

/always willing to throw in an ethnic slur

195 bosforus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:23:41am

re: #190 Sharmuta

ah wikipedia, is there anything you can't do?
thanks

196 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:24:01am

re: #180 looking closely

I'd pay cash money to see Bush and this Moonbat engage in hand-to-hand combat (to the death is optional. . .but I'd pay more for that ticket).

My money is on Bush.

You've got to be joking. He'd look into her eyes and decide she has a good soul. He'd then throw an iftar birthday dinner for her, and make us give up our blog so she would stop being catty.

197 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:24:14am

re: #185 bosforus

can someone help me out, is a fatwa religiously binding or is more of an opinion of a religious leader?

Supposed to be religiously binding, but the other half of that is that it is only the opinion of some "religious scholar." There are thousands of the things, often conflicting - it is opinion after all - and even some incidents of fatwas being available for purchase. Nothing like a pronouncement from the Pope, if that is what you are thinking.

198 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:24:20am

re: #175 neverquit

Let's follow the thinking of this woman as the basis of her opinion is as follows:


I could kill George Bush for invading Iraq but would rather have Saddam Hussein still be in power and "contained"...

Whatever the hell they mean by contained...

Certainly not 'contained' inside that plastic shredder, surely? Or one of those large black plactic garbage bags that held the remains of girls pulled out of houses by thugs and 'returned' to their families? Or 'contained' like that guy who literally lived inside the walls of his home for 20 freakin' years, because to emerge would have meant death?
*sigh* sorry - these 'bat drive me nuts...

199 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:24:44am

Well, you're safer walking the streets of Belfast or Derry than you are New Orleans or Washington, DC.


I think the whole IRA thing gets as much attention as it does because there are more people of Irish ancestry in the US than there are in Ireland.

200 toadbelly  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:25:02am

always big talk from these peace-minded liberals, i wish just one of them would make the attempt so the secret service could peacefully put them out of our misery.

201 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:25:03am

re: #185 bosforus

Both. Fatwas often contradict each other, believers can pretty much pick and choose whatever they want.

202 so.cal.swede  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:25:05am

re: #185 bosforus

can someone help me out, is a fatwa religiously binding or is more of an opinion of a religious leader?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

203 Pro-Bush Canuck  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:25:08am

#176 miamitech 7/12/2007 9:17:21 am PDT reply quote

isnt the IRA a little obsolete.

Yes.

They always call to say there will be a bomb about to explode.

Nope. They mass-murdered people without warning on numerous occaisions.

204 scaramouche  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:25:18am

OT--Extry! Extry! Despite flaming medics, Brits still see Islam as a religion of peace: [Link: www.islamonline.net...]

205 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:25:45am

re: #183 NoSubmission

We lizards could make a better film about Theo Van Gogh.

Of course, we'd get a fatwah issued upon us for telling the truth about his savage murder. The Religion of Peace and Intimidation(tm) can't deal with the truth.

206 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:25:50am

re: #191 David E Uh, that was my point, exactly. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

207 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:26:03am

re: #199 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


15% guilty.

208 wargammer2005  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:26:05am

re: #27 Sizzlack

please stop trying to confuse them with facts.

Saddam killed more muslims than anyone in modern history, but that doesnt matter.

209 so.cal.swede  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:26:17am

grr. i was gonna add this:

A fatwa is a considered opinion in Islam made by a mufti, a scholar capable of issuing judgments on Sharia (Islamic law). Usually a fatwa is issued at the request of an individual or a judge to settle a question where fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence) is unclear.

210 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:26:38am

re: #185 bosforus

A fatwa is a formal religious opinion issued by an Islamic scholar. The weight any given fatwas carries is based on the "respect" that particualr scholar has in the community. There are no formal clerical heirarchies, like the Catholic Church, in Islam. This is why there can be so many different fatwas expressing opposing views. A Shia scholar would argue a point differently from a Sunni, and so on.

211 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:26:41am

re: #195 bosforus

You're welcome.

212 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:26:48am

re: #206 realwest


Maybe this old man isn't on top of his thinking skills.

213 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:26:53am

re: #204 scaramouche
gotta be some kind of nutritional deficiency...

214 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:27:27am

re: #195 bosforus

re: #190 Sharmuta

ah wikipedia, is there anything you can't do?
thanks

uhhh...present unbiased facts?

/ohh...must be a trick question!

215 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:27:41am

re: #193 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Maybe Betty is the long banned LGF poster "Voice of Iceland" who used to get Zulubaby so pissed off with her liberal diatribes and vaguely (and sometimes not so vaguely) anti-semitic opinions.

Iceland, or Ireland?

216 MrMom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:27:56am

re: #180 looking closely

I'd pay cash money to see Bush and this Moonbat engage in hand-to-hand combat (to the death is optional. . .but I'd pay more for that ticket).

My money is on Bush.

First rule of fight club...don't talk about fight club.

217 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:28:02am

re: #214 paxnhymn ROTFLMAO!

218 Axiom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:28:13am

OT: Sock Puppetry Practiced by Whole Foods CEO

[Link: digg.com...]

This story is hilarious. Whole Foods CEO creates sock puppet to parrot his company, bash his competitors, in the Yahoo Finance forums.

219 BenZacharia[deleted]  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:28:15am
220 so.cal.swede  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:28:36am

re: #214 paxnhymn

with all due respect, but i think you misunderstand how wikipedia works.

221 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:29:08am

OT - POSTED ON LAST THREAD BEFORE I REALIZED THERE WAS A NEW ONE.

HAVE YOU SEEN THIS

More on melamine: China gets dead serious about food safety, executes former food and drug chief (Source MeatingPlace.com)
By Tom Johnston on 7/10/2007 for Meatingplace.com

In perhaps a demonstration of how serious China is about shoring up the safety of its food products, Beijing executed the former head of its State Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday, the official Xinhua press agency reported.

Zheng Xiaoyu was sentenced to death May 29 for accepting bribes to approve untested medicine reportedly blamed for at least 10 deaths. A court carried out the execution Tuesday after China's Supreme Court rejected his final appeal, the International Herald Tribune reported.

Xinhua did not disclose how Zheng was killed, though IHT reported that the court police typically execute prisoners by shooting them in the back of the head, or in some cases by using lethal injections.

Zheng's execution was concurrent with a press conference at which China's top food and drug regulatory agencies vowed to crack down on counterfeit food and medicine. Beijing has been pressured to make vast improvements after a spate of health scares tied to sub-par products, including exports of tainted food and fake drugs.

"Corruption in the food and drug authority has brought shame to the nation," Yan Jiangying, deputy policy director of the State Food and Drug Administration, told reporters. "What we will have to learn from the experience is to improve our work and emphasize public safety."

222 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:29:10am

re: #204 scaramouche

OT--Extry! Extry! Despite flaming medics, Brits still see Islam as a religion of peace: [Link: www.islamonline.net...]

Well, now that we know what the common element among this diverse group of people is, can we declare a War on Doctors?

223 storagemanager  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:29:12am
Diplomatic Engagement: Iran and Syria have continued to foster instability in Iraq. As noted, Iran funds extremist groups to promote attacks against Coalition and Iraqi forces, and the Iraqi Government. We see little change in Iran’s policy of seeking U.S. defeat through direct financial and material support for attacks against U.S. military and civilians in Iraq. Iran is engaging in similar activities in Afghanistan. Meanwhile, foreign fighters (especially suicide bombers) continue to use Syrian territory as their main transit route to Iraq. The Syrian Government also allows major insurgent organizers and financiers to operate in Damascus. We continue to assess that nearly 80 percent of suicide bombers are foreign fighters -- with the vast majority traveling to Iraq through Syria -- and to Syria from their home countries by air travel to Damascus. This Syria-based network is able to supply some 50 to 80 suicide bombers to AQI per month. Since January, there have been nearly 280 suicide events in Iraq, accounting for nearly 5,500 casualties, mostly innocent Iraqis going about their daily lives. Syria can and must do more to shut down these networks

That is from

...Initial Benchmark Assessment Report


That is an act of war...what hell is wrong with us?
[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]

224 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:29:26am

OT but Threadworthy:

On Monday, July 9th, Ben Hur became Abba Hur!

Hat tip Mrs. Hur.

We have had our first child, and he's a boy!

Even though I was expecting something between THIS and THIS, everything went remarkably smoothly!


He is beautiful!

225 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:29:32am

re: #218 Axiom

OT: Sock Puppetry Practiced by Whole Foods CEO

[Link: digg.com...]

This story is hilarious. Whole Foods CEO creates sock puppet to parrot his company, bash his competitors, in the Yahoo Finance forums.

First time I've heard of anything like that. LOL

226 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:29:57am

re: #218 Axiom

OT: Sock Puppetry Practiced by Whole Foods CEO

[Link: digg.com...]

This story is hilarious. Whole Foods CEO creates sock puppet to parrot his company, bash his competitors, in the Yahoo Finance forums.

What a dope. Typical liberal.

I had to go into Whole Foods in Plano recently to buy something. Talk about Moonbat Central.

227 WeaselZipper  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:30:30am

Is it just me or did the 'contact us' form disappear?

228 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:30:30am

re: #222 Kenneth
I thought NHS and socialized medicine WAS a War on doctors?

229 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:30:44am

re: #224 Ben Hur

Congratulations!

230 Killgore Trout Stinks  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:30:53am

re: #218 Axiom

Sock puppets stink.

231 bosforus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:30:58am

re: #220 so.cal.swede

well, since wikipedia's peer reviewed, it will only end up presenting what the majority of its users deem to be reality, truth, or at least acceptable. that's the bias.

232 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:31:08am

Congratulations to you and your wife, Ben Hur!

re: #224 Ben Hur

233 Dave the.....  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:31:14am

Been off so hope this hasn't been covered, but...did anyone tune into Hugh Hewitt last night? One of his regulars (a liberal lawyer) is the one suing Cattipiller for doing business with Jews...I mean selling bulldozers to Israel.

Hugh had never heard of St Pancake. He didn't know what to ask or how to challenge the lawyer. He had no knowledge of even the basic facts behind the little Nazi bitch.

Someone should email him the links, including "the forgotten Rachels".

234 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:31:40am

re: #227 WeaselZipper

Is it just me or did the 'contact us' form disappear?

I just saw it. It's still there.

235 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:32:06am

re: #221 Eowyn2

from the article you posted...


"Corruption in the food and drug authority has brought shame to the nation," Yan Jiangying, deputy policy director of the State Food and Drug Administration, told reporters. "What we will have to learn from the experience is to improve our work and emphasize public safety."

It's quite ironic that the Chinese government would execute a top FDA exec to save face, but have no problem killing hundreds of peaceful protestors at will.

236 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:32:11am

Mazel Tov Ben! that would make the lad, 'son of the father' aka Barabbas.

237 Dave the.....  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:32:21am

Damn, ment to use Spell Check to fix some words on my #233...

238 MrMom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:33:10am

re: #190 Sharmuta

re: #185 bosforus

Fatwa.


You gave me your koran once. Just wanted to say that your quick hand with the Ro(rest in)P references have always been very helpful and informative!
Also, in case coz is snoozin'...
Don't squeeze the sharmuta!

/FATWA might pop out :^)

239 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:33:15am

re: #224 Ben Hur

Congrats, Ben Hur!

240 wargammer2005  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:33:18am

re: #100 jcm

Amen!

241 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:33:27am

re: #220 so.cal.swede

re: #214 paxnhymn

with all due respect, but i think you misunderstand how wikipedia works.


no, I understand perfectly well...I also understand that ANYONE can edit Wikipedia, and while I'm not doubting it has some useful information, just ask someone like Charles the Sh*t that has been posted about them on that site, and the nutjob that started it takes pride in some of these smear tactics with great glee...no, my understanding is fine thank you...

242 firebreather  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:33:39am

Normally, one has to kill many thousands of people to win a Nobel Peace Prize (Yasser Arafat).

Now the Nobel committee's standards have been dumbed-down. Now, you need only express & communicate your violent fantasies towards the USA & Israel (Jimmy Carter, Betty whatever-her-name-is).

Next year's Nobel Peace Prize Nominees: Bashir Assad, Muqtada al Sadr, Muhammad Atta (posthumously), and Kim Jong Il.

243 Torres  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:33:59am

Wow, what a joke the whole Nobel process is today.

244 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:34:19am

re: #224 Ben Hur
Congrats! He's beautiful!

245 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:34:35am

#223 storagemanager

Syria can and must do more to shut down these networks

That last sentence is so incompatible with the rest of the paragraph, you would have to be clinically insane to write it.

Earth to White House: Syria WONT DO ANYTHING to shut down these networks, because they are running them. Du-uh!

246 slartybartfast  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:34:53am
Unless the president of the United States is held responsible for what he’s doing and what he has done, there’s no one in the Muslim world who will forgive him.

Here's a little Qur'anic guidance regarding forgiveness:

009.080 (YUSUFALI)
Whether thou[, Mohammad,] ask for their forgiveness, or not, (their sin is unforgivable): if thou ask seventy times for their forgiveness, Allah will not forgive them: because they have rejected Allah and His Messenger: and Allah guideth not those who are perversely rebellious.

Contrast with Jesus' words recorded in Matthew 18:

21Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?"

22Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven."


Interesting, though not surprising, perversion of Christian text. Of course, I've yet to see a Progressive who shows any evidence of having read the Qur'an.

247 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:35:17am

re: #243 Torres

Nobel =not noble

248 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:35:51am

re: #243 Torres

Well the peace side of things anyway, and of course Literature.

249 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:35:59am

re: #224 Ben Hur

Mazel Tof, Ben!

He looks just like you.

250 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:36:02am

re: #241 paxnhymn
Have a day job in a library, and even the leftie librarians don't consider Wiki reliable.

251 David Simon  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:36:28am

#224 Ben Hur - Mazel Tov!

252 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:36:55am

For some light reading:

Eloi for Breakfast

253 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:37:10am
254 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:37:32am

Thank you!

255 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:37:59am

re: #250 chee toe


I have two daughters in College, and when they do term papers, Wiki is no longer allowed as reference material...that's pretty bad when universities don't allow it considering it's run by a leftist!

256 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:38:08am
257 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:38:43am

re: #254 Ben Hur

"Train a child in the wasy he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it."

Go thou and do likewise.

258 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:39:00am

OT
Where is the web page where you put in a word and it gives you variations of that word?

259 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:39:34am

congrats Ben...love em and kiss um now because in 15 you'll wanna cuss'em and beat em...


:-D

260 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:39:41am

re: #258 EmeraldLakeEyes

OT
Where is the web page where you put in a word and it gives you variations of that word?

thesaurus.com

261 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:39:50am

Ignobel Peace Prize.

Nobel (Lefties in) Piece(s) Prize.

I'm sure there's more.

262 winsmom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:39:59am

There are many reasons why the muslim world is suffering - but it is all self-inflicted and not the fault of George W. Bush. This woman and those who agree with her are like the morons who rushed to the rooftops to welcome the aliens to earth in the movie "Independence Day", and we all know how well that went.

263 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:40:07am

re: #258 EmeraldLakeEyes

www.dictionary.com

264 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:40:28am

re: #255 paxnhymn


I teach at a small college and have told my students that wiki is not a source or a resource. If they want to start with an encyclopedia, I suggest several that use peer review. Even then I warn of bias.

265 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:41:35am

re: #260 galloping granny

No, Thats not it. I guess I cannot explain what I'm looking for correctly. LOL

266 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:41:37am

re: #262 winsmom

There are many reasons why the muslim world is suffering - but it is all self-inflicted and not the fault of George W. Bush. This woman and those who agree with her are like the morons who rushed to the rooftops to welcome the aliens to earth in the movie "Independence Day", and we all know how well that went.

Or they're like the dimwits who tried desperately to appease the invading aliens in the movie "Mars Attacks." That movie, I tell you, is incredibly ominous.

267 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:41:54am

Ben, you got the 'easy' sex. All you have to do is worry about his penis. With girls you have to worry about all peni.

268 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:42:02am

A reader left this comment for me. Interesting:

This isn't the first time Betty Williams threatened to "KILL GEORGE BUSH".

On July 24, 2006, while delivering a speech at the Earth Dialogue forums, Williams told school children at the Brisbane City Hall, "I have a very hard time with this word 'non-violence,' because I don't believe that I am non-violent." She went on to say, "Right now, I would love to kill George Bush"

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

269 z9z99  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:42:04am

This is a perfect illustration that the fundamental motivation of the left is not "progress," but indulgence. We should call them "Indulgencists." The left subscribes to a very cheap notion: that emotional gratifiction is a legitimate public policy objective; that there is no higher form of accomplishment than to "feel" like you have accomplished something.

Look at the recent infantile emotional outbursts from the left: RFK Jr.'s idiotic blather about global warming and treason, Rosie O'Donnell's unhinged rants, Michael Moore's tantrum on CNN, ...this kook. And then you have that Democratic strategist recommending that candidates need to appeal more to emotion.

The tragedy of the left is that they seem oblivious to the hatred, petty jealousies and frank maleficence that they are willing to accommodate in their quest to feel good about themselves.

270 bosforus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:42:10am

re: #264 David E

how do you feel about students using the cited sources from the wikipedia articles?

271 storagemanager  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:42:55am

Get a load of this one...,

but a breakdown in Muqtada al Sadr’s ability to control JAM %u2011%u2011 or elements thereof %u2011%u2011 coinciding with the return of JAM fighters from Iran after receiving training in combat and explosives has spawned a recent increase in attacks on Coalition and Iraqi forces. Iran continues to train, fund, and equip extremist groups, both Shi’a and Sunni, that attack Iraqi and Coalition forces in and around Baghdad and the provinces in southern Iraq. JAM “secret cells” are a major recipient of that assistance %u2011%u2011 and are responsible for some of the most sophisticated attacks on Iraqi and Coalition Forces. As stated in the President’s January 10, 2007, speech announcing the New Way Forward: “We will interrupt the flow of support from Iran. And we will seek out and destroy the networks providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies in Iraq.” Operations against these networks are ongoing and will continue.

AGAIN AN ACT OF WAR

...Initial Benchmark Assessment Report

[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]

272 MrMom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:43:02am

re: #224 Ben Hur

OT but Threadworthy:

On Monday, July 9th, Ben Hur became Abba Hur!

Hat tip Mrs. Hur.

We have had our first child, and he's a boy!

Even though I was expecting something between THIS and THIS, everything went remarkably smoothly!


He is beautiful!

LOL! Looks like you!
Congrats. Glad all went well. Another lizard in the world.

273 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:43:12am

re: #263 BenZacharia

Thanks lol

Darn, I wish I could explain it better. Oh well.

274 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:43:24am

TTFNTM

275 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:43:40am

re: #224 Ben Hur Hen Ben, assuming you weren't kidding around, Mazel Tov! Great News! Kid looks just like his ole Man! LOL!

276 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:44:03am

re: #269 z9z99
Nice post sir. Too true! Have referred to 'em as existing in a state of "arrested adolescence " many times...

277 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:44:22am

re: #273 EmeraldLakeEyes

Whatcha lokin' fer? the etomolgy?

278 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:44:44am

He starts Krav Maga in 2 months

279 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:44:50am

re: #265 EmeraldLakeEyes

re: #260 galloping granny

No, Thats not it. I guess I cannot explain what I'm looking for correctly. LOL

If you want different words that mean similar or the same thing, then you want a thesaurus. If you want the same word in different languages, try Babelfish or Google Language Tools.

280 wanumba  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:45:05am

re: #31 Shug

Can one receive a Nobel Peace Prize and Fiskie in the same year?


Guess the Nobel Peace Prize has become the Fiskie. Since Arafat at least.

Isn't it time to start big time complaining to the elitist little committee? Araft's infitada and the institutionalizing of suicide bombers should have resulted in a big yank of the Noble "honor." This woman's "Peace Prize" should be recinded. The committee won't do it unless they're dogpiled on. They'll cave, typical liberals, they're big with other people's money, but have no backbone.

What is needed is a new prize - perhaps the PEOPLE's Awards. Unfinished works on prion theory, which appealed to the political leanings of the committee, but were unknown in society, wouldn't have made it before the concrete accomplishment of the genuine ulcer cure.

Noble is way past shelf life. Let's go Science Idol - get those guys up there presenting what they have, competing against others. Done right, think of how informative it would be for the audience. For example, cold fusion would start grand but would bit the dust by the third round when everyone discovers that no one can duplicate the results.

281 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:45:30am

My Lord! Ajax or not, this thread is really moving along!

282 HouTexJew  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:45:37am

What's the big deal?

Another speaker at the conference has actually defended Sami Al-Arian against "persecution" by the U.S. government and is the dutiful daughter of Dallas-area pro-Khomeini, anti-Israel Imam Yusuf Kavakci.

Ms. Williams' comments pale by comparison.

[/blech]

283 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:45:54am

re: #278 Ben Hur

LOL, he'll beat you to death with his binky.

284 amphibian  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:46:03am

re: #174 lawhawk

OT:
Musharraf is saying the right things now, but what took him so long to be hit over the head with a cluestick?

Musharraf is, and has always been, in it for Musharraf. If he is cracking down on the jihadniks it must mean that he no longer believes he can deal with them, and needs to eliminate them for his continued personal well-being (read: survival).

I've always thought Mushy was taking a big risk siding with the US way back when, as regrettably, we are not always consistent in our friendships. He must have thought that we would win this thing, and quickly. Later, he made friendly with the jihadniks in order to hedge his bets, sometimes "discovering" some mullah to keep us happy as well. His recent actions are indeed interesting.

285 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:46:03am

re: #267 BenZacharia

amen...

286 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:46:19am

re: #174 lawhawk

OT:
Musharraf is saying the right things now, but what took him so long to be hit over the head with a cluestick?

President Pervez Musharraf says he is determined that extremism and terrorism will be eradicated in Pakistan. He was speaking in a televised address to the nation after officials said 75 bodies had been found at the radical Red Mosque in Islamabad.

Using PR to turn public opinion to allow you to do what must be done is not a fast process. I am glad to see he is able to do this. I hope he gets the radicals attacking the schools under control, or his uneducated population will stay that way, just the way the radicals like it.

Oh how I miss the "Great Communicator".

287 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:46:57am

What I'm looking for is you enter a word. Out comes a list of all the variations of words using the letters in that word.

288 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:47:10am

Is it too early to order this?

[Link: www.jcpenney.com...]

289 Joel  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:47:26am

You know there are an awful lot of moonbats (it seems) in Ireland.

290 Orbit Rain  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:47:42am

“Right now, I would love to kill George Bush.”

How about wanting to kill the people, the memes and the mindsets that want to kill or enslave you? Or is that just too much fucking effort, too complex an issue for you to figure out lady?

291 wanumba  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:47:44am

re: #224 Ben Hur
Wonderful! Congratulations! Ah! Daddy Hur!

292 aqvik  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:48:49am

re: #287 EmeraldLakeEyes

do a search on text twist

293 storagemanager  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:48:55am
Curfew called in Iraq’s Najaf on security concerns


Published: 07.12.07, 19:44 / Israel News

Iraq’s southern shrine city of Najaf declared a rare curfew on Thursday after discovering a possible security threat, a city official said.

Intelligence sources had revealed the presence of several suspected militants in the city, prompting a widespread clampdown, the official in the department of information said on condition of anonymity


[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

294 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:49:05am

You're all invited to the online virtual brit.

295 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:49:19am

re: #281 realwest

My Lord! Ajax or not, this thread is really moving along!

That's probably why I scrolled right past your post to me.
You know I would never intentionally ignore you :')

296 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:49:21am

re: #292 aqvik

Thank You will try that. Sounds right.

297 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:49:28am

re: #270 bosforus


That gets trickier. I will accept them if they are in refereed journal, or if they are looking at various arguements of a scientific issue (for example if they are looking at the various arguments for the age of the universe editorials in Astronomy and Sky and Telescope are good reading and acceptable sources).

298 bosforus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:49:31am

re: #287 EmeraldLakeEyes

like an anagram?

299 jonturner  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:49:32am

I guess I finally have an excuse to go buy this shirt: "I wish I could hate you to DEATH!"

300 MrMom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:49:45am

#246 slarty

Interesting, though not surprising, perversion of Christian text.

In last Sunday's gospel at mass, Jesus sent 72 disciples out to spread the good news. That number ring a bell? Mo was a hack!

301 storagemanager  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:50:17am
Brother of slain cleric predicts ‘Islamic revolution’ in Pakistan


Published: 07.12.07, 19:08 / Israel News

Days after he was caught fleeing Islamabad’s Red Mosque in a burqa, its captured chief cleric gave an incendiary funeral oration at the village burial of his slain brother, predicting the bloodshed would drive Pakistan toward an “Islamic revolution”.

But hours later, President Gen. Pervez Musharraf vowed to crush extremists throughout Pakistan and move against religious schools, like the Red Mosque’s, that breed them

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

302 neverquit  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:50:19am

My email to the "3rd International Women's Peace Conference"

Today I was reading the online version of the Dallas Morning News regarding your organization's conference in Dallas, TX on Wednesday, 07/11/07.

Betty Williams was YOUR keynote speaker and while Ms. Williams may have earned a Nobel Prize for Peace in the 1970's; today Ms. Williams is by no means really all that peaceful and non-violent, as I am sure your organization discovered by her comments in Dallas.

However, this was not the first time Ms. Williams has stated this kind of position regarding George Bush, and your organization should have been more diligent on reading about what this woman has said in the past about OUR PRESIDENT. In July of 2006, Ms. Williams stated that she was not "non-violent", and that she would "Love to kill George Bush" to a very young audience in Brisbane, Australia.

Whether or not one approves of any particular President's policies is not the issue. I'm sure your organization agrees that what Ms. Williams said is in EXTREMELY POOR TASTE for a Conference on Peace, sponsored by your thoughtful organization. I would hope that your organization would do something to distance itself from this kind of speech as it is not conducive to peaceful discourse between differing ideas and opinions. Ms. Williams comments serve no practical purpose in regards to the promotion of peace in the world.

YOU SHOULD DO MORE, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS ORGANIZATION TO PUT SOMETHING ON THIS WEBSITE CONDEMNING SUCH COMMENTS IMMEDIATELY. I would further suggest not paying Ms. Williams for her speech and time in Dallas as this would be tacit approval of Ms. Williams and her non-peaceful ideas regarding our President - whether you approve or disprove of Bush Policy.

Kindest Regards,

***aka neverquit

303 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:50:56am

re: #287 EmeraldLakeEyes

They are out there. Anagrams? santa/satan

304 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:51:29am

Earth to Betty:

Here is the Muslim world let's look at their suffering- all of the suffering noted below is Muslim on Muslim:

Mali- poor African country with Islamist insurgency

Northern Nigeria- corrupt poor African country with Islamist insurgency

Morocco- One of the more propserous Islamic countries, large # of expats, sending $ helps country as does least authoritarian of all Arab nations, small dwindling Jewish population and tourism offsets al Qaeda efforts

Algeria- still reeling from civil war overthrowing Islamists, AQ very active.

Tunisia- One of the more moderate Islamic countries not much suffering not much progress either

Libya- led by a certifiable lunatic who blames bulgarian nurses for his own medical establishment's 19th century conditions. Former terror exporting country laying low after 911.

Egypt- Authoritarian misery incarnate. Opposition party are psychotic AQ affiliates. In Egypt what the government doesn't steal, Islam ruins.

Saudi Arabia- Fascist Royal dictatorship with worlds longest functioning sixth century government. Nothing good ever happens here, if the westerners ever operating everything leave, the country will immediately rvert to the middle ages. All done in the name of Islam, largest single theft of a nation's wealth in history. AQ very active here.

Yemen- making Saudi Arabia seem advanced, this country is proud to call Bin Laden their son and has contributed no civilizational advances ever. Whoever is in charge, hangs on as long as they can, then some new vicious bastard takes over.

Sudan- Having murdered or displaced millions in the south, this highly advanced (Islamicly) nation would ally with Bin Laden in a heartbeat and is killing hundreds of thousands more in Darfur all in the face of George Bush's demands they stop.

Chad- See, Mali.

Palestine- the shining Cause of the Arab-Islamic world. So angered that Bush has not allowed them to destroy Israel, the PA, home and sponsor to some of the most murderous terror gangs on the planet, has erupted in a civil war between terrorists who insist on taking a state nwo to attack Israel and those who believe in Jihad to the end of time regardless of the cost to everyday life and their people's wellbeing. The two sides tossed each others people off buildings until the more vicious conquered Gaza.

Syria- One of the foremost terror holes on the planet, any cab driver can take you to the HQ of almost every terror group just by asking for them by name. Criminally fascist leadership holding power by the barrel of the gun is sponsoring terrorist attacks on US troops in Iraq.

Lebanon- A pathetic little country used by Iran and Syria to house their vicious dog, al Hezbollah. Home of innumerable terror bases. No one blames them for the wars there even though Syria illegally occupied the eastern part of the country for 20 years and just sent its troops in again last week.

Turkey- the most democratic and civilized of the Muslim world. Current leadership is Islamist friendly but also trying to build bridges to the west. No known US causulties here.

Albania- Yemen on the Adriatic. Don't ever cross an Albanian.

Iraq- Saddam killed or exiled millions of Iraqis, sponsored terror and attacked his neighbors. US intervention has saved hundreds of thousands of lives [this is called an extremely inconvenient truth]. Muslim on Muslim violence, while no doubt happening in response to US presence is heavily sponsored by outsiders. US has killed tens of thousands of terrorists with many civilian deaths. Unlike our enemies, we never try to maximize civilian deaths.

Iran- Killed a million people in the Iran Iraq war with insane human wave tactics, this fascist theocracy is dead set on getting the bomb. Current president may be one of the least sane national leaders in human history (an amazing accomplishment but hardly a surprise from terror sponsoring Iran). Iran has killed hundreds of US troops (for which Bush has done nothing) and is reported to sponsor any violence it can buy.

305 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:52:06am

re: #287 EmeraldLakeEyes

What I'm looking for is you enter a word. Out comes a list of all the variations of words using the letters in that word.

I'm familiar with most of the language tools available online and have not run across anything that does that. If you find something like that, please let me know.

306 storagemanager  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:52:07am

Everyone should read this...you will get angry...

July 12, 2007
Initial Benchmark Assessment Report

[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]

307 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:52:48am

Re: 287 If it's anagrams, did you try this?
[Link: wordsmith.org...]

308 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:52:48am

re: #302 neverquit

nice...let us know of any response...
I'd about bet my house you won't get one...

309 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:52:49am

***


Super-Typhoon Man-Yi now approaching US bases on Okinawa.

Naha Airport now reporting sustained tropical storm force conditions. East winds 36 mph ( 58 km/hr) gusting to 59 mph ( 95 km/hr) with light rain. I suspect the first power lines are starting to go down now.


Man-Yi now in range of the Okinawa weather radar!


***

310 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:52:58am

re: #295 DesertSage Heh. I know you'd never intentionally ignore me (although I don't know what a "scoll by" is if not an ignore!). I DO understand. I just don't think or type enough to keep up with Ajax.
Maybe I need some Comet!

311 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:53:02am

I notice another speaker at this alleged peace confab is none other than Marxist fraud Rigoberta Menchu.

Marxists truly love peace. When you murder your opposition, things are usually peaceful thereafter.

312 pat  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:53:12am

It is often said that there is no structured church authority in Islam. That is only true for the Sunni. The Shiia have a loose structure commencing with the descendants of Mohamed (black turbans) and proceeding up various semi-formal bodies until an authority figure is reached thru consensus. The reality of the bloodlines is very much in doubt. There is little to prevent fraud and Arab Muslims were illiterate for 2 full centuries after the death of Mo. Note that the Shiite are most prevalent in Persia (Iran) so in order to claim descent, they must first admit to Arab blood, and Persians think Arabs are savages. All very contradictory.

313 El matamoros  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:53:53am

i remember going to the Democratic underground website the day after the 2004 election just to see how much seething there would be and how many would ask questions about how to immigrate to Canada. I personally posted a whole web site about how to do it! ;)
I dont bash bush there so i havent got banned yet. 0But that invitation twas too much to resist.

Anywho, I nnoticed seomthing even more interesting, rather than talk of imigration were a HELL of a load of talk about getting into "firearms". (for the big socialist revolution i guess.) They were deadly serious about it though i dont know how many followed up with that. Now whenever a Gun issue gets posted you'd be suprised how many now say "i used to be anti-gun, but since the Bush Admin Ive realised how important the 2nd amendment is!" LOL! AS a firearms collector i was actually quite pease about this turn of events!
Maybe we were witnessing the birth of a conservative in the wild? But then i remembered WHY they want guns. Plus since that time i have never seen any "hippies" in the Gunstores nor at any of the ranges I shoot at in Long island. Oh well. So What does this have to do with this Article? Well to me its clear indication that these so called "peace activists" are nothing of the sort. These groups like the ISM are nothing more than terrorists of the red variety like Badermeinhof. Just like in the good old days of the 60's and 70's they are joining forces with the Islamists and are awaiting the day they'll go tho the closet and get their gun and march on Washington...or a t least try.

I only have one thing to say to such leftists, PLEASE TRY, and PLEASE HURRY UP. :|

314 the Boodge  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:54:23am

Liberalism is not an American value!

315 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:54:38am

re: #298 bosforus


Thats it! Oh, thank you very much.

Tried text twist. Would have worked if my Java wasnt screwed up. But thats another problem. lol

316 Digger Dan  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:55:22am

Why do women want to kill their own leaders when their homes are attacked by terrorists and criminals? Is this some deranged aspect of their home-maker instincts? Were women involved in public affairs when our leaders brought down the hammer on the Barbary Pirates? I'm starting the feel that it's time for the women to go home because there's serious work coming up that's going to demand our full attention.

317 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:56:19am

re: #284 amphibian
He's said the same thing from time to time before, and he cracks down just enough to keep the US support (ie. money, F16's) coming and to keep his ass safe. Sooner or later, Musharraf will slip up. Then we'll have a big problem.

318 jonturner  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:56:51am

re: #276 chee toe

I'd settle for simply "arrested."

319 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:57:19am

re: #295 DesertSage See what I mean? You post to me at
9:49:19 and I reply at #310 at 9:52:58 - or about 3 minutes after I see your #295 and there are 14 posts entered in between!

320 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:57:21am

re: #316 Digger Dan

This nutball doesn't speak for all women, and I'll be d*mned before I allow you or anyone else to tell me to go home.

321 SlartyBartfast  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:58:04am

re: #290 Orbit Rain

“Right now, I would love to kill George Bush.”

How about wanting to kill the people, the memes and the mindsets that want to kill or enslave you? Or is that just too much...effort, too complex an issue for you to figure out lady?

Actually, I think the Leftists believe Bushitler represents exactly that! Witness some truly paranoid musing by Pulitizer Prize-winning HuffPo wacko, Jane Smiley:

What Would You Do If Bush Declared Martial Law?

Where Is Your Detention Facility?

322 firebreather  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:58:06am

I've heard since his retirement from the UN, Kofi Annan has been giving speeches in Muslim capitals urging the poor & dispossesed of the Muslim world to rise up against American-Israeli-Zionist oppression.

Like AlGore, Bill Clinton & U2's Bonehead, Kofi goes globetrotting in a private jet & lives in mind-bending luxury, giving angry Muslim audiences the red meat they so want to hear: The reductionist, simplistic, inverse "logic" that America is responsible for all that is ill in the world, a convenient scapegoat & villain, and that the murderers & terrorists of the Muslim world are actually the victims on the world stage.

In Kofi's parallel universe, criminals are not responsible for their crimes-- cops are. The rapist is not guilty of the rape-- it is the raped who are guilty.

Give that man a Nobel, if he doesn't already have one.

323 Infidelsalwayswin  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:58:13am

Maybe she means killing him by droning on and on about how everything is his fault to him. You know so he died of boredom. That could be construed as peaceful.
Otherwise, I have to tell 'ya. i don't think she could manage it. Shes, what, 64? And she's a peacenick. Usually people become peacenicks becasue they're pussies. No indeed, I reckon ol' George could stomp on her head. And let's not beat around the bush (heh) here - I'd pay good money to watch.

324 iminj  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:58:27am

OT

Israeli journalist (working for a Brazilian newspaper) goes undercover in South Lebanon and reports on Hezbollah's fake "victory" in last summer's war.

Worth reading and watching the video link at ynet:

Israeli reporter in HezbollaLand

-iminj

325 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:58:47am

re: #294 Ben Hur

You're all invited to the online virtual brit.

I thought they called the turtleneck conversion a bris.

Then again, I'm not Jewish.

326 markie  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:58:50am

The muslims are suffering worse than ever? Because of GWB? They've been suffering for centuries. They kill each other when they aren't killing others in a takeover bid. For many of them, it's a lifestyle.

327 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:59:34am

" How could you nonviolently kill somebody?"

Hmmm, if she's wondering how to combine "peace" with "death" in one easy package, somebody already worked out a solution to that.

328 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 9:59:53am

re: #316 Digger Dan Well there's certainly serious work coming and our men and women of the Armed Forces are gonna have to deal with it. You should too.

329 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:00:24am

Thank you all for your kind comments!

330 lioness  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:01:21am

re: #271 storagemanager

Get a load of this one...,

but a breakdown in Muqtada al Sadr’s ability to control JAM %u2011%u2011 or elements thereof %u2011%u2011 coinciding with the return of JAM fighters from Iran after receiving training in combat and explosives has spawned a recent increase in attacks on Coalition and Iraqi forces. Iran continues to train, fund, and equip extremist groups, both Shi’a and Sunni, that attack Iraqi and Coalition forces in and around Baghdad and the provinces in southern Iraq. JAM “secret cells” are a major recipient of that assistance %u2011%u2011 and are responsible for some of the most sophisticated attacks on Iraqi and Coalition Forces. As stated in the President’s January 10, 2007, speech announcing the New Way Forward: “We will interrupt the flow of support from Iran. And we will seek out and destroy the networks providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies in Iraq.” Operations against these networks are ongoing and will continue.

AGAIN AN ACT OF WAR
...Initial Benchmark Assessment Report

[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]


I was listening to FOX News this morning and I thought I heard that the senate unanimously passed a bill authorizing military force to stop Iran / Hezbollah from aiding (training, supplying weapons, bombs, etc.)in the killing of our troops.

Did anyone else hear anything? I don't see anything on the FOX website.

331 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:01:22am

re: #320 Sharmuta


(ahem!)

Go home!

/ducks

j/k


:-D

332 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:01:27am

re: #329 Ben Hur You're welcome and they were all well deserved!

333 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:01:35am

re: #325 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

A British friend of mine refers to it as "A blind cobbler's thumb."

334 eff plus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:01:57am

off her meds

honestly, the way these types speak about world events is flat out cartoonish

335 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:02:09am

Earth to Betty

Chechnya- a sad nation twice genocided by Russia against US protests- Russians killing Muslims and vice versa as well as Muslims killing any slackers opposed to the war

Afghanistan- More sad history. US helped Muslims and attacked by radical Islamic maniacs. Survivors of 20 years of war trying to put country back together. Maniacs still trying to regain control. Many Muslims killed by their fellow Muslims.

Somalia- Like Yemen and Sudan only worse. Had to be invaded by Ethiopia when Islamic government attacked their neighbor.

Bangladesh - Just another failed Islamic state

Pakistan- One of the most Islamic countries in the world. So it is a complete disaster. Western regions are Taliban haven complete with rape fatwas and oppression that would cause almost any American liberal, if they weren't so ill informed, to grab a gun and fight. AQ tried a coup form the red mosque. Government haning on by its fingernails and could go any day with assuredly worse Islamic fascists waiting in the wings.

There is much more to the Islamic world, Indonesia used to be a nice place to visit and Malaysia is a relatively prosperous Islamic country but I just rattled off a billion Muslims worth of Islam world wide and it is not the US causing the suffering it is Muslims.

336 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:02:10am

re: #313 El matamoros

Well to me its clear indication that these so called "peace activists" are nothing of the sort. These groups like the ISM are nothing more than terrorists of the red variety like Badermeinhof. Just like in the good old days of the 60's and 70's they are joining forces with the Islamists and are awaiting the day they'll go tho the closet and get their gun and march on Washington...or a t least try.

I only have one thing to say to such leftists, PLEASE TRY, and PLEASE HURRY UP. :|

I've said before, after folks started posting quotes about Cheney from HuffingPaint, that the only difference between some of these people and real grass-roots Leftie terrorists like the Red Army Faction is the guts to pick up a gun and use it. The hate is there, the ideology is there, the sociopathy is there, they just haven't taken that final step to bombs and bullets. Maybe they're a bunch of pussies, or maybe they're not smart enough to plan things, but the elements are in place. I'm figuring it'll start in the Pacific Northwest.

337 bosforus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:02:19am

remember the photoshop thread and MY BIG GAY ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM?
well, it looks like we may have an extremist audience here at LGF since it apparently gave a suicide bomber a 'good' idea

338 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:02:34am

re: #320 Sharmuta

re: #316 Digger Dan

This nutball doesn't speak for all women, and I'll be d*mned before I allow you or anyone else to tell me to go home.


I knew that was comming as soon as I read his post.

Yikes

339 MrMom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:02:46am

re: #320 Sharmuta

re: #316 Digger Dan

This nutball doesn't speak for all women, and I'll be d*mned before I allow you or anyone else to tell me to go home.

DIGGER DAN...
Are you new here?

/just axin'...

340 Skembo  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:02:59am

I think there is a nice body cavity search in store for this lady!

341 realwest  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:03:10am

Well as usual it's been grand - faster than a 'vette but grand! I gotta go now, and I hope y'all have a GREAT DAY and that I get to see y'all later on!

342 legalpad  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:04:07am

I don't why these fools bother to pretend that they are for principles of any kind. "Muslims are suffering beyond belief"? Like she gives a shit. How much were they suffering during the reign of Saddam Hussein and his war with Iran? Which Muslim country came to the aid of the Muslims in Kosovo? Which Muslim country offered to take in the Palestinian "refugees" after they kicked all the Jews out of their countries? Muslims have killed a hundred times as many Muslims as everyone else combined in history. This woman lives in the Marxist world that never was and never will be. When their ideological champions slaughter millions they pretend it didn't happen. I have no patience with these people.

What George Bush needs is to quit compromising with the likes of her.

343 Sounder  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:04:09am

A bunch of fanatics in the name of Allah attack your country and kill 3000 of your people in one day and the leader of that country slaps back and he's the one who should die? (peacefully though!)

These dhimwits have forgotten who started all of this.

344 wargammer2005  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:04:15am

re: #294 Ben Hur

thank you for sharing...

congrats!

345 RobCon  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:04:16am

"Ms. Williams started her speech by asking every member of the audience to hug everyone around them".

Or perhaps a good old fashioned circle-jerk would do.

346 MrMom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:04:26am

re: #325 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #294 Ben Hur


You're all invited to the online virtual brit.

I thought they called the turtleneck conversion a bris.

Then again, I'm not Jewish.


Do they ever go halfway and do a mock turtleneck?

347 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:04:48am

re: #153 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet and David E:

I note you are distinguishing between the Traditional (old) IRA and the Provisional IRA and its very recent offshoots the Continuity and Real IRA.

To distinguish as such you should kindly accept basic historical facts:

1. England invaded and conquered most of Ireland against the will of Ireland's people. By 1920 due to Old IRA (and other) resistance the occupation became militarily and politically untenable so England retreated out of the majority of the country but maintained physical control of critical assets via the creation of a puppet country in the north of Ireland by carving up the historical region of Ulster to create the State of Northern Ireland strictly based on ethnic majority.

2. A substantial minority (approx 30-40%) of non sympathetic Irish people were marooned in this new entity. From 1920-1970 the sympathetic majority ruled savagely via monopoly political, economic and military power under which flagrant abuses of the minority are easily documented. In response, the Provisional IRA was formed from the indigenous, un-empowered minority to resist suppression via tactics known as The Long War.

3. Long War Tactics purposefully targeted military and political assets, not civilians.

The United States Government does not list the PIRA as a Terrorist Organization.

The PIRA ceasefire in 1997 led to the 1998 Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement which has led to the present joint government.

Very recent splinter organizations such as the CIRA and the RIRA are listed as Terrorist Organizations. I condemn these groups for their tactics and their gross misjudgments.

I believe that the emergence of the European Union as an alternative political parent entity has naturally cooled the bellicosity of the base issue of a United vs a divided Ireland. I believe the aging of the population and the recent huge economic gains of all Ireland have cooled political passions.

The main point is this: For America and our best friend and ally Britain to succeed in Iraq and elsewhere, we must forcefully understand the truth of Ireland. If we cannot understand what happened in Ireland then we have no chance of succeeding in Iraq.

Regards.

/In memory of Bobby Sands- MP.

348 TimeQuake  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:05:00am

re: #336 Pawn of the Oppressor

I'm figuring it'll start in the Pacific Northwest.

Why there?

349 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:05:03am

re: #324 iminj

At least 70 percent of the residents of Bint Jbeil, the Shiites' capital, have left the village. Despite the dozens of Hizbullah flags that are hung throughout the village and hundreds of posters proclaiming victory placed along the South's roads, one can not detect overt Hizbullah presence; no armed men on the streets, only top leaders of the organization know the whereabouts of the weapon depots.

They were all brought to Dearborn as "civilians."

350 looking closely  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:05:40am

re: #196 BenZacharia

You've got to be joking. He'd look into her eyes and decide she has a good soul. He'd then throw an iftar birthday dinner for her, and make us give up our blog so she would stop being catty.


No, I'm pretty sure they are going to fight on "Celebrity Death Match".

/rolls eyes

A bit more seriously, as expected, this leftist is just spouting the usual leftist "Bush is Hitler" drivel. The only interesting thing is that this one happens to have a Nobel Peace Prize, shedding much light on the "value" of that prize.

Did FDR ever get a Nobel Peace Prize? (IE for ending the worst war in the history of the planet).
Reagan? (For ending the Cold War, without turning it into a "hot" one?).

351 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:06:19am

First steps of purdah: "Go home".

352 MrMom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:06:51am

re: #331 paxnhymn

Hows about both youse and shar go home!

/slides under table and crawls (quickly) towards door...

353 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:06:59am

Excellent post!
re: #304 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

354 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:07:51am

re: #330 lioness

I wish. You must have still been sleeping.

Really?

355 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:07:58am

Hey! Three years on LGF 2 morrow...how 'bout that?!
it's seems like just yesterday when I was worried about Lurch getting into office...
I often wonder if we are any better off!
(before you jump me I was just waxing philosophically)

356 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:08:45am

re: #311 JammieWearingFool

I notice another speaker at this alleged peace confab is none other than Marxist fraud Rigoberta Menchu.

Marxists truly love peace. When you murder your opposition, things are usually peaceful thereafter.

Exactly. I get so miffed when the MSM talks about 'partisanship', 'divisiveness', and 'working with the other side of the aisle'. Why is it that I have to concede MY ideals in order for the country to not be divided. Why is it that in order for there to be 'equality' it means me lowering my standards to 'slum' level? Why can't THEY raise themselves up to be MY LEVEL in order for us to be EQUALS! If they (the marxist/socialist/humanist/ handout crowds) don't want such a "divided" nation they can STFU and get jobs and start taking responsibility for their own lives...

357 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:08:49am

Veil travail in Georgia.

Of course, CAIR's right in the middle of it.

ATLANTA - Officials of a south Georgia city where a Muslim woman was prohibited from wearing a traditional head scarf into a courtroom met with members of a national Muslim advocacy group on Wednesday.

The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations said no resolution was reached in the case of Aniisa Karim, a 20-year-old who said she was banned from entering the Valdosta municipal court building on June 26 unless she took off the scarf.

"There's no definitive change thus far, but we have agreed to further discussions," said Ahmed Bedier, director of CAIR's Tampa, Fla., branch. "There was a cooperative spirit, a healthy spirit, and everyone agreed from the beginning we were all cooperating together to achieve the same goal."

In a statement, Valdosta city spokeswoman Sementha Mathews said officials at the meeting reaffirmed their offer to consider changes to their rule prohibiting headwear in court.

Until it is changed, the statement said, Valdosta will continue to use the policy.

Karim, a Baltimore native who works for a Valdosta radio station, was attempting to contest a speeding ticket when she was stopped by a security officer. She said she explained that she wore the traditional garment for religious reasons, but was denied entry due to "homeland security" concerns.

358 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:08:58am

re: #224 Ben Hur


congratulations. its a wonderous thing.

359 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:09:37am

re: #352 MrMom

well, I'll have ta clear it with Mrs. Pax.. Sharmuta...you eat much?

360 MrMom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:10:42am

Good afternoon Mandy? Even if you don't have time to read the whole thread, did ya see #316 above. Not tryin' to stir things up or anything...:^)

How's little manners today?

361 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:10:45am

re: #356 Oh no...Sand People!
The problem with you, sir, is that you, actually think and reason.
*That's grown-up stuff.*

362 velsin  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:10:51am

I would recommend calling the Secret Service with your concerns. I know I am. She may be the tip of the iceberg of a possible real conspiracy (not a conspiracy theory of the sort the moonbats usually believe in) to kill the POTUS.

Secret Service Contact Page

363 kayawanee  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:11:09am

#224 Ben Hur

On Monday, July 9th, Ben Hur became Abba Hur!...Hat tip Mrs. Hur...We have had our first child, and he's a boy!

Congratulations! A new Hur!

364 MrMom  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:11:14am

PIMF Mandy.

365 wargammer2005  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:11:37am

re: #347 experiencedtraveller

you forgot the uprising during World War 1 when they irish sided with the germans

and the irish that sided with the germans in world war 2

plenty of mistkaes on both sides from where i sit.

366 yochanan  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:11:41am

the president clearly said the effects of losing in Iraq and he is right i just wish we would fight this thing to win.

on the IRA they are terrorists and supporters of pali arab dogs.

the foolish irish american romatics some how missed the last 50 years and think the current IRA were the same boys in the 1920's

367 z9z99  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:11:53am

re: #306 storagemanager

The interesting thing is that there is no serious argument that the political and policy shortcomings of the Iraqi government are due to miltary futility. Quite the opposite, in fact, in that it seems the attitude of some of the interest groups there is that the effectiveness of the U.S. military allows them to pursue parochial objectives at their leisure. No one suggests that the reason that there is no oil revenue sharing agreement is because the fourth infantry division has been decimated, or the British have been driven back to the sea. No one suggests that the de-Baathification law is stalled because of imminent fear that the Mahdi army will seize control of Baghdad. More to the point, I have not seen a convincing argument that political progress is stalled because the bad guys can still pull off a mass murder now and then.

The lack of political and social progress is not because the insurgency has degraded our military's ability to do its job. Yet the defeatists say the "surge" has failed, as though 400,000 more ground troops would somehow make the political benchmarks somehow blossom into reality.

The frustration and slow progress in Iraq is not due to military failure, but for some reason tinkering with the military component of reconstruction is all the war's critics want to talk about. The real challenge in Iraq is not the military prowess of al Qaeda, it is the lack of nerve in people we hoped we could rely on.

368 markie  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:11:58am

re: #342 legalpad

Lefties "care" only insofar as they can assign blame to someone they hate for the "suffering". Or whatever.

369 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:12:03am

lioness,

Here it is:

00242 11-Jul H.R. 1585 On the Amendment S.Amdt. 2073 Agreed to Lieberman Amdt. No. 2073, as Modified; To require a report on support provided by the Government of Iran for attacks against coalition forces in Iraq. So the motion is asking for a report on Iranian gov't support for attacks on coalition forces in Iraq.

370 wanumba  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:12:16am

Oh, and this woman should be PGN'd immediately.

Put that on her resume. Expelled and barred from reentering the USA for public statements spouting violence against the American Head of State.

These people are so dishonest. They know they are safe when they speak such things in the US. They don't dare talk like that to someone like Mugabe, while in Zimbabwe. Mugabe's soldiers would have crowded the stage mid-speech and hauled her ass out of there - straight to the airport, maybe one stop to rough her up, then airport.
Their own actions prove that lies are coming out of their mouths.

371 Lioness  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:12:25am

re: #354 Kenneth

re: #330 lioness

I wish. You must have still been sleeping.

Really?

I was wide awake, Joe Lieberman was discussing it...

372 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:12:32am

re: #361 chee toe

re: #356 Oh no...Sand People!
The problem with you, sir, is that you, actually think and reason.
*That's grown-up stuff.*

"I think, therefore I am."

The libs/commies: "You are just an organism...like a dog."

373 wanumba  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:13:58am

Gag.
THat's PNG
Persona Non Grata - (immediate export)

374 bnichols10  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:14:01am

Ms. Williams is listed on wikipedia as being a Distinguished Visiting Professor at Nova Southeastern University in Florida. The President of NSU is Ray Ferrero, Jr. His email address is ferrero@nsu.nova.edu and his phone number is 954-262-7575.

I encourage everyone to send an email or give them a call to say that you are outraged that one of their professors is speaking publicly about their desire to kill the President of the United states.

375 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:14:45am

#330 lioness

Good scoop! The resolution isn't authorizing miltary action, but it is asking for a report on Iranian government involvment in attacks in Iraq. A step in the right directiopn, but we need to DO something at this point.

376 velsin  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:15:07am

Then again, maybe overburdening the Secret Service right now with these types of concerns may not be the most prudent action. BDS is on the rise, and soon Secret Service may have to suspect half the people in US alone are possible suspects and/or members of a conspiracy to kill the POTUS.

377 kulthur  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:15:58am

Nice post Ayatollah!

378 Sponge  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:16:09am

Mike Gallagher interviewed this woman on Dallas radio this morning and she stated that she did NOT say that. What she said was, "I would kill anyone that causes harm to children." The DMN misquoted...


for what that's worth.

379 Ayazheniangel  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:17:02am

If this has been asked..I'll ask again: Why don't this people put the blame on the terrorist CAUSING all the problems in the world. Why blame your your fellow Americans who want Freedom in the world?
I do not get it!

"The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief,” she said"
Um, suffering beyond belief by THEIR own doing.

380 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:17:18am

re: #348 TimeQuake

re: #336 Pawn of the Oppressor

I'm figuring it'll start in the Pacific Northwest.

Why there?

Because that's where the worst of the crazies come from. St. Pancake came from up there, so did a classmate of hers who shot a cop to death at a gas station, that's where that punk took a dump on the flag earlier this year, it's a hotbed of leftist kookiness (like San Fran, but the "activists" are college age), it's where all the real angry/stupid young kids seem to live. They have a "College of Social Justice", for pete's sakes. It's already a center of so-called "Eco-Terrorism", why not political terrorism?

My second choice would be L.A. and environs.

One thing is for sure, Texas will always be here, no matter what happens. It's one of the many reasons I moved here from the Northeast. If/when the country comes apart, we're down here with oil, guns, and a right-leaning population.

381 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:17:50am

re: #360 MrMom


This should really be intresting. Make my day Mandy.

382 El matamoros  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:17:58am

#335

"Earth to Betty

Chechnya- a sad nation twice genocided by Russia against US protests- Russians killing Muslims and vice versa as well as Muslims killing any slackers opposed to the war"

Actually the story is really screwed up. The Canadian broadcassting company did a whole expose on it. First They became a part of the New Russian Federation, and like all the Ex-communist countries they were rediscovering their "lost faith", but all the old timers interviewed had said that Chechnians had ALWAYS been more moderate than most Muslims. Then something happened. SAUDI ARABIA happened. Soon enough "missionaries" came to Chechnia to teach to poor Chehens about "real Islam" I.e. Salafism. Then a lot of Chechen Young people went to Saudi Arabia to study in their Mosques. An old man Complained that "When they came back they had long beards and arab clothing and were insisting that our women wear the Niquab which our women have never worn. And with Saudi Money they set up brand new large Mosques that were radicalizing our young people."
Soon enough there was the talk of a "Caucaus Caliphate" and before you knew it a civil war had started. As usual, at the heart of it was Saudi funding. Same with Pakistan and Palestine (Hamas) and Afghanistan. The Bush Admin being friends with these supreme assholes is a BIG mistake and it makes them seem Hypocrytical as well.

383 Lioness  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:19:26am

re: #375 Kenneth

#330 lioness

Good scoop! The resolution isn't authorizing military action, but it is asking for a report on Iranian government involvement in attacks in Iraq. A step in the right direction, but we need to DO something at this point.

I know that Lieberman was discussing taking out their (Iran / Hezbollah) three training bases located inside Iran. He specifically said that diplomacy hasn't worked and he talked about air strikes etc.

384 Digger Dan  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:19:39am

re: #320 Sharmuta

re: #316 Digger Dan

This nutball doesn't speak for all women, and I'll be d*mned before I allow you or anyone else to tell me to go home.

Hey, I'm not telling women to go home. I really like gettting laid at the end of the day, and I don't want to say anything that might interfere with this small daily pleasure. When it comes to choosing between my bedtime moment of bliss, and defending my country, I'll take my daily happiness. Please stay, ladies, I'm really frightened of being deprived of my warm and tender evening happiness :-) I'll do anything to keep you happy. I'll even listen to what you have to say. I'll do ANYTHING to keep from being sent off to deal with those fucking pirates face to face, mano a mano. If I have to listen to Betty and Cindy and Nancy, or else no happiness - well - I'll do it. Please, take my place, I'll go home and look after the kids. Call me if you need my help. I love you.

385 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:19:43am

She is just another moonbat that lives in fantasy land.
We can't fight evil, someone might get hurt. That would be bad.
Her comments on 9/11 a few days after at a speech to high school kids.
(The left is always bringing in nut ball speakers to talk indoctrinate to your kids.)

[Link: www.racematters.org...]

Some choice comments.

We have to remember that when the first bomb is dropped [in retaliation], there will be young people like you underneath it. Innocents," she said, her voice thick with an Irish brogue.


and

Still, Williams said, America has to remain united. And young people must be prepared to oppose students who may harass Arab or Muslim classmates.

"There are bullies everywhere," she said. "Your job now will be to control that. Protect your Muslim and Arab students because they are just as American as you are."

With more people like this, the US and Ireland would both be part of the Kings England. Hitler would be alive and well. Slavery would have never ended. You know, all the things people fought over that ended up getting innocents killed.
The left is full of intellectual lightweights who's feelings are in the correct place.

386 TimeQuake  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:19:55am

re: #380 Pawn of the Oppressor

Glad I live in Virginia.

387 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:20:02am

re: #367 z9z99

re: #306 storagemanager


The lack of political and social progress is not because the insurgency has degraded our military's ability to do its job. Yet the defeatists say the "surge" has failed...,

I was talking with family about the whole "we have failed" bit. If you think about it, that is quite possibly a good thing to be propagandizing. By the jihadi's and al-qaeda terrorists in Iraq getting there A's handed to them on a plate day in and day out...and then hear that we are LOSING!? They must be freaking out! They know that they are getting DECIMATED our troops. I bet the kill ratio of us VS them is like we lose 1 person to every 400 plus of them.

They hear that we are losing, but they must be thinking that..."Holy Goat Balls, Habib! If this is them LOSING, imagine what would be happening to us if they were WINNING!?"

Kind of makes sense in a different sort of way...I would rather the MSM to report the truth, however, and tell it like it is.

388 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:21:36am

re: #347 experiencedtraveller

I will remind you that the Irish invaded Scotland and trashed what they could. Also, of course the Vikings invaded the Irish much earlier, so I guess you are ok with an anti-Norway IRA.

Look I am no way justifying what the English Lords did in the 18th and 19th century. But going back to the 12th century is just about as retarded as the Islamicists refering to the west as Crusaiders. Everybody was invading everyone back them. Hell, talk to some Irish in Ulster and they still complain of the clans of Cork invading them a zillion years ago. (being an American in a Northern Irish pub is a hoot once everyone forgets you are there).

Ok, I understand, you are probably Irish and hate the English, it comes with the territory. I, being a mutt (from mon Irish, Scots, English and from dad German, Cherokee, French, Dutch and heavens know what), can't aford to have such a ruby colored world. Yes today's IRA is trying to fit into todays divided Ireland, but that in no way excuses the IRA of the 1960s through 90s, many of whom are still around, and they are still thugs.

389 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:22:26am

re: #380 Pawn of the Oppressor
A lot of the worst crazies move there because they can't (or won't) make enough money to stay in CA. Cost of living is lower and more forgiving in the NW...;)

390 martelbrigade  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:22:26am

I know I am late to the thread but I must say fuck the muslim world.

391 DieLibsDie  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:22:36am

Just to be fair, because I wonder these kinds of things, along with all that hugging, was there any groping? Along those same lines, were there any pictures of any groping? I'm just saying.

392 MissLL  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:22:58am

I just found a website for Betty Williams with one of the organizations she's connected with - Nobel Women's Initiative - and I called and asked to leave a message for Betty Williams, which they said I could. The receptionist said that Betty was misquoted, and I said how could they misquote that from a speech? I said that Ms. Williams was disgusting and horrible to come over here from another country and say things like that - the receptionist said anyone should be able to to do that, it's free speech - I said "what, threaten the president?!"" I said the FBI would probably investigate and call on Betty Williams for that, and the receptionist said I should question my country's laws for doing that! I couldn't believe it.

If anyone wants to call them, the organization is in Canada at 1 (613) 569 8400 --

393 Sponge  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:23:29am

She also said that GWB is killing children with his war because 50% of the population of Iraq before the war started was under the age of 15. By simply attacking the country to dethrone saddamnit was killing children.

394 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:23:43am

re: #390 martelbrigade

I know I am late to the thread but I must say fuck the muslim world.

You are never late when you have that type of an entrance!

395 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:23:46am

re: #387 Oh no...Sand People!

..."Holy Goat Balls, Habib! If this is them LOSING, imagine what would be happening to us if they were WINNING!?"

LOL! Holy goat balls Habib, indeed!

396 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:25:17am

re: #4 Shug

Ms. Williams started her speech by asking every member of the audience to hug everyone around them.

Drugs, not hugs.

/Antipsychotics in large doses are needed for this group

That has been my view for some time.

397 yochanan  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:26:25am

re: #347 experiencedtraveller


B.S. ONE OF MY GRAND PARENTS CAME FROM LONDONDERRY the majority of northern irish have no desire to join the south. the minority in the north trying to impose its will on the majority.

398 easy  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:28:05am

#347 experiencedtraveller

3. Long War Tactics purposefully targeted military and political assets, not civilians.


Really.

399 LoneSome Journey  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:28:41am

Hmmm, President Bush has created so much misery for the muslim world.

1. He removed a totalitarian government in Afghanistan that was forcing citizens to live in a 7th century mindset where even smiling and applauding at a sports even could result in being whipped by the "religious police". Where women had NO RIGHTS. Do you remember a "liberal or progressive" women's group lashing out or calling for the death of taliban leaders whose actions brought about the deaths of far more civilians than the US/Coalition forces that removed the taliban?

2. He removed a totalitarian dictator who took innocent citizens off the street for torture and murder. A "leader" responsible for the gassing of his own citizens. A leader working to obtain WMDs. Who HAD WMDs (chemical weapons were never accounted for by anyone). Have these "liberal and progressive" lunatics ever provided even the remotest proof of their claim of the 655,000 deaths caused by the removal of hussein? Have these "liberals and progressives" ever denounced the TERRORISTS who willingly murder innocent men, women and children for simply being a target of the TERRORISTS?

3. He is working with the new Iraqi gov't to establish a DEMOCRACY in that devastated nation. Working to improve the level of education, moral and constitutional rights of women and all individuals within the nation. Did the "liberals or progressives" ever call upon hussein to establish a more democratic government and establish equal rights for all?

4. President Bush did exactly what a large number of the "democat leadership" cried out needed to be done in Iraq years before President Bush DID take action. We constantly hear the "liberal or progressive" LIE that President Bush lied in order to invade Iraq. Do we ever hear these same charges about the democrats who viewed the SAME intelligence reports and made the SAME charges that it was essential to remove hussein?

5. muslim nations rich with oil revenues spend precious little to aide nations and people with very few resources, waiting instead, for nations such as the US and Britain to provide humanitarian relief. When was the last time you heard a "liberal or progressive" denounce these oil rich nations for their failure to aide the disadvantaged nations? Of course, saudi arabia, will provide $250 for the families of homicide bombers who died attempting to murder Jews or Christians.

It never ceases to amaze me when women who claim to be "liberal or progressive" never find a problem with the way the "muslim religion" forces the women of nations controlled by muslims into at best a 2nd class citizen with virtually NO RIGHTS. These same women would be screaming against ANY Christian or Jewish nation that imposed such controls over women. In fact, many times these same women work to lower the physical standards that have been applied for years and used to reject many male applicants, but now must be lowered to accept women. Would these same "liberal or progressive" women dare to go into Southern Thailand and demand their "rights" from the muslims who terrorize that area on a daily basis? Would they dare to go without the muslim "body bag", go without their face covered, or dare to work? The best answer is to say these women are hypocrites.

400 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:29:01am

re: #378 Sponge

Mike Gallagher interviewed this woman on Dallas radio this morning and she stated that she did NOT say that. What she said was, "I would kill anyone that causes harm to children." The DMN misquoted...


Yes, the Koran is misquoted, and Ahmadinehjad was misquoted, and remember when Te-ray-za Heinz Kerry was on video calling the tactics of her husband's opponents "un-American" but then attacked a reporter who questioned her on it outside the auditorium. "I did not say that. I did not say that!"

But let's grant her claim, that she would kill anyone that harms children, is she supporting, then, the killing of Saddam or claiming he didn't harm children? Ditto jihadists everywhere.

So a peace activist admits that the only way to peace sometimes is to kill those making war. Hmmm. But that was our point all along.

401 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:29:08am

re: #390 martelbrigade

I know I am late to the thread but I must say fuck the muslim world.


ohhh...you mean eat and f&ck pick!


:-D

402 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:29:10am

re: #383 Lioness


Lieberman thinks that's a good idea, as do I and many other LGFers. But I don't think the Senate is ready to authorize military action. They want more reports first.

403 Priapus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:29:21am

Last month, Arkansas Republican Party Chairman Dennis Milligan did a little death fantasizing of his own, saying that "all we need is some attacks on American soil like we had on 9/11" in order to change the President's approval ratings and peoples' low opinion of the war. Because, of course, all news is good news when it comes to this president. No attacks on American soil? Proof Bush was right. Attacks on American soil? Proof Bush was right!

So what's worse, LGF? Wishing for the death of one man, or the deaths of thousands?

404 pass the moonbaticide  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:29:38am

re: #99 Silhouette
We expect nothing better from a 'women's peace group'. The implication of such groups is that men are not welcome because , you know, it's men who are the aggressors, the soldiers, the politicians, the warmongers ... and men are fully and solely responsible for all that ails this world.
Women , on the other hand, are all peace, love , nurturing and peacemakers who will inherit the Earth.

Anybody who believes that BS should spend an evening in any British City Centre street after pub closing time.

405 Sponge  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:31:04am

re: #400 Silhouette

Just SLIGHTLY hypocritical, yes...8^P

406 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:31:16am

re: #384 Digger Dan

Mock condescension drives women wild. Good luck with that technique.

407 Digger Dan  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:31:46am
#339 MrMom
DIGGER DAN... Are you new here?

No, I've been here for a while. I'm just being a troll today, enjoying the new Ajax comment system, and trying to get some discussion going on how effective these leftist women are at disabling our war on terror. When you think about it, a handful of noisy, leftist, AMERICAN women are taking on the US leadership and we don't really know what to do about it. It's annoying the hell out of me. However, tomorrow I'll get over it.

Has anyone else noticed how the new LGF comment system has changed the whole nature of debate here?

408 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:31:53am

re: #400 Silhouette

So a peace activist admits that the only way to peace sometimes is to kill those making war. Hmmm. But that was our point all along.

*shhh don't tell anyone...*

409 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:32:59am

re: #407 Digger Dan

In some cases, it's the men you know.

410 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:34:26am
411 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:35:38am

re: #233 Dave the...

Hugh had never heard of St Pancake. He didn't know what to ask or how to challenge the lawyer. He had no knowledge of even the basic facts behind the little Nazi bitch.

Someone should email him the links, including "the forgotten Rachels".

So, have you done it yet? :-)

412 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:36:30am

re: #410 buzzsawmonkey
LOL - hats off to you, sir! I'll sing that with my beer this evening!

413 crabtree  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:36:34am

A crowd of 1000? Wow, that's some big conference!

And a Women's Peace Conference that's "non-partisan" yet, that didn't expect anyone to talk about the Iraq war. Right . . .

414 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:36:48am

re: #403 Priapism

Last month, Arkansas Republican Party Chairman Dennis Milligan did a little death fantasizing of his own, saying that "all we need is some attacks on American soil like we had on 9/11" in order to change the President's approval ratings and peoples' low opinion of the war. Because, of course, all news is good news when it comes to this president. No attacks on American soil? Proof Bush was right. Attacks on American soil? Proof Bush was right!

So what's worse, LGF? Wishing for the death of one man, or the deaths of thousands?

Obviously, both.

415 z9z99  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:37:07am

re: #387 Oh no...Sand People!

Reporting the truth has become an art form. The media do not manage perceptions of Iraq by selective reporting, they do so with a clear willingness to sping. Consider the initial reports of Operation Phantom Thunder from Diyala province. The fact was that several al Qaeda leaders had left the region befor ethe start of major operations. The media had their choice of verbs to convey the reality. Consider the difference in tone between the following:

1.) Al Qaeda leadership fled from Diayala.
2.) Al Qaeda leadership escaped from Diayala.

The first implies a measure of panic and defeat on the part of al Qaeda; the brave holy warriors high-tailed it when confronted with getting their asses handed to them. The second implies failure on the part of our forces. We tried to capture them but the wily racals outsmarted us, they of course being invincible geniuses.

Guess which verb made the local headlines.

416 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:37:14am

Well, I'd like to slap the snot outta her ... in a peaceful, non-confrontational, Buddhist sort of way.

417 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:37:39am

re: #393 Sponge

She also said that GWB is killing children with his war because 50% of the population of Iraq before the war started was under the age of 15. By simply attacking the country to dethrone saddamnit was killing children.

Only countries where they have no children may be attacked.

All others are exempt no matter how many acts of war they commit against the rest of us.

/

418 bosforus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:38:12am

re: #410 buzzsawmonkey

wow, that was awesome

419 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:38:35am

re: #388 David E

David your simplistic response to my detailed post tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of the situation.

Please don't assume you know who I am and who I "hate".

420 sloggin420[deleted]  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:40:03am
421 TMF  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:40:09am
So what's worse, LGF? Wishing for the death of one man, or the deaths of thousands?

Well that would depend on who the "one man" is and who the "thousands" are, wouldn't it?

I wish the death of all jihadis and terrorists, who probably number in the millions. Is some one who wishes for the death of the Pope therefore "worse" than me?

422 IowaInfidel  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:40:17am

Can they make a prize called the Nobel Peace Prize of Hate? That's what hers is, anyway.

What an ultra maroon.

423 Sponge  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:40:47am

re: #417 Silhouette

re: #393 Sponge


She also said that GWB is killing children with his war because 50% of the population of Iraq before the war started was under the age of 15. By simply attacking the country to dethrone saddamnit was killing children.

Only countries where they have no children may be attacked.

All others are exempt no matter how many acts of war they commit against the rest of us.

/

The thing that is killing me with all these 'peaceniks' is that they are painting with such a narrow brush that they are missing the true issues. US Forces are not killing children...they're not killing many at this point. Iraqi troops are doing a lot of the fighting at this point. BUT, when they DO fight, it's against INSURGENTS. It's the INSURGENTS that are blowing up the mosques, the coffee shops, the busstations, the markets...where the children are getting killed. When they speak I can barely STAND because the size of the HUGE question mark that forms over my head trying to simply FATHOM the mindset that displays this BlaTENT IGNORANCE to the facts of the matter.

424 cookielady  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:41:06am

re: #151 gop_patriot

Ah, so your 4 was my 3 (Central Time). I homeschool a 17, 10, and 4 year old, so they're here 24/7/365- when even one is gone it seems really empty around here. When they're all gone, I'm with you, it's boring! But I get lots more naps in. LOL

My homeschool contains a 17 (on Monday), a 14 and a 13-year-old. Planning on some dual enrollment at a jr. college this fall. Now the co$t will really kick in, with 3 starting college stuff... followed by wedding stuff (all girls)!

So, bless you for raising sensible citizens instead of mind-numbed robots of the state!

425 TMF  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:41:23am

I meant of course, am I worse than someone who wishes the death of the Pope

PIMF

426 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:43:55am

re: #415 z9z99

re: #387 Oh no...Sand People!

Reporting the truth has become an art form. The media do not manage perceptions of Iraq by selective reporting, they do so with a clear willingness to sping. Consider the initial reports of Operation Phantom Thunder from Diyala province. The fact was that several al Qaeda leaders had left the region befor ethe start of major operations. The media had their choice of verbs to convey the reality. Consider the difference in tone between the following:

1.) Al Qaeda leadership fled from Diayala.
2.) Al Qaeda leadership escaped from Diayala.

The first implies a measure of panic and defeat on the part of al Qaeda; the brave holy warriors high-tailed it when confronted with getting their asses handed to them. The second implies failure on the part of our forces. We tried to capture them but the wily racals outsmarted us, they of course being invincible geniuses.

Guess which verb made the local headlines.

Agreed. The malfeasance and vile contagion of the MSM makes me rage.

427 Ulthar Meow  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:43:58am

This reminds me of Dodgeball:

"There's no reason we need to be shackled by the structures of the employee-employer relationship. Unless you're into that sort of thing. In which case, I got some shackles in the back. I'm just kidding. But seriously, I've got 'em."

It's that joking-but-serious vibe. "I'm non-violent but I want to kill Bush. Har har. Oh, I'm just kidding. But seriously, I'd rip his head off."

Peace prize indeed.

428 Merovign  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:43:59am

Just a hit-and-run comment... it's funny how the silly trolls are out on this one.

It's just the icing on the cake, as far as demonstrating how pathologically sick the left has become. They can excuse anything, and they think they can do anything, as long as at the end of the day, the "daddy" they spew their hate at will hug them and tuck them into bed.

It's really too bad we can't kick their sorry asses out and let them live for a while in Darfur, or Afghanistan, or Chechnya... they'd have to grow up real quick.

429 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:44:44am

re: #398 easy

#347 experiencedtraveller


3. Long War Tactics purposefully targeted military and political assets, not civilians.

Really.

Yes Easy. Really. Reseach your list a bit.

430 Sponge  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:46:09am

re: #427 Ulthar Meow

This reminds me of Dodgeball:

"There's no reason we need to be shackled by the structures of the employee-employer relationship. Unless you're into that sort of thing. In which case, I got some shackles in the back. I'm just kidding. But seriously, I've got 'em."

It's that joking-but-serious vibe. "I'm non-violent but I want to kill Bush. Har har. Oh, I'm just kidding. But seriously, I'd rip his head off."

Peace prize indeed.

And all I could come up with is "if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball..."

431 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:46:44am

re: #428 Merovign

Hard to do that with your head missing...

432 Merovign  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:47:06am

re: #416 Hooray for Captain Spaulding

Well, I'd like to slap the snot outta her ... in a peaceful, non-confrontational, Buddhist sort of way.

Shaolin, baby!

BTW, the "Nobel Peace Prize" has about as much to do with peace as "catgut" has to do with cats.

It's just a lefty Euro-commission that rewards compliance to "the narrative."

It's a little shinola and a lot of the other thing.

433 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:47:19am

re: #427 Ulthar Meow

This reminds me of Dodgeball:

"There's no reason we need to be shackled by the structures of the employee-employer relationship. Unless you're into that sort of thing. In which case, I got some shackles in the back. I'm just kidding. But seriously, I've got 'em."

It's that joking-but-serious vibe. "I'm non-violent but I want to kill Bush. Har har. Oh, I'm just kidding. But seriously, I'd rip his head off."

Peace prize indeed.

She probably figured, "Hell, they made a movie about how to assassinate the guy and nobody did anything to them...a little verbage can't hurt."

That's when she gets the Street Fighter "Sho Ryu Ken" uppercut to the face by my hand.

434 Malatrope  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:48:46am

re: #407 Digger Dan

#339 MrMom
DIGGER DAN... Are you new here?

Has anyone else noticed how the new LGF comment system has changed the whole nature of debate here?

Yes.

435 Digger Dan  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:49:26am

re: #420 sloggin420

Would it be wrong and violent to say I wish someone would rip off her head and crap down her neck. In a peaceful way of course...

Yes, that's a bit extreme! Perhaps she just simply needs a good sodding on the road after pub closing - in a peaceful way, of course.

436 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:49:32am

re: #342 legalpad

did she donate her prize money to releve Muslim suffering?

437 TMF  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:49:39am

DO they have a nobel prize for idiocy?

438 Sponge  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:51:01am

re: #437 TMF

DO they have a nobel prize for idiocy?


That's usually every one they give out...so I guess, yes.

439 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:52:02am

re: #403 Priapus

Do you have a link? I'm interested if he indeed was wishing for them. "Boy, I wish there'd be attacks so you folks would see the light" or merely sadly predicting them.

If wishing for them, it is contemptible.

Heaven knows I have used similar language, for example scolding someone into paying more attention while driving. "All we need is for one person in front of you to slam on their brakes, and we'll be in real trouble because you're looking at the radio."

440 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:53:09am

#403 Priapus

Why did you not post the whole thing?

"At the end of the day, I believe fully the president is doing the right thing, and I think all we need is some attacks on American soil like we had on [Sept. 11, 2001) and the naysayers will come around very quickly to appreciate not only the commitment for President Bush, but the sacrifice that has been made by men and women to protect this country."

[Link: rawstory.com...]

I don't see any "death fantasizing" here or any wishing for the death of thousands. This is the same as "I could kill George Bush." In my part of the country that is a common expression and does not mean you are "wishing" for anything.

Thanks for playing.
Come around again some time.

441 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:53:58am

#439 Silhouette

GET OUT OF MY HEAD YOU EVIL DEMON!

/he he he

442 mama winger  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:54:20am

Read her Wikipedia entry LOL!

(before they ditch it)

443 easy  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:56:44am

re: #429 experiencedtraveller

Yes Easy. Really. Reseach your list a bit

.
OK

444 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:56:49am

re: #441 hous bin pharteen

I was just about to post a thank you to you for getting me the quote I needed.

445 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:57:38am

#442 mama winger

I just love people who make a career out of these left wing causes.
Her, Cindy, ALgore.
How about they get a real job.

446 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:58:38am

This should have it's own place on LGF.

Intellectual Output of the Arab World

The numbers are staggeringly ridiculous...

447 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:59:02am

re: #445 hous bin pharteen

#442 mama winger

I just love people who make a career out of these left wing causes.
Her, Cindy, ALgore.
How about they get a real job.

They have to shave their pits to do that...

448 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:59:34am

re: #426 Oh no...Sand People!

I read that the US military intentionally leaked the start of the Diyala offensive because they knew the leaders would run away and leave their foot-soldiers to die. And it worked. Too bad for the AQ leaders the US troops were already in blocking positions at all the main roads, rivers & border crossing. That's where they killed & captured lots of the AQ commanders.

449 John Schneider  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:59:57am

re: #440 hous bin pharteen

Priapus appears to be perfectly happy in its own little world of rainbows and skittles. Why are you trying to irritate it with using logic?

450 David E  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:00:56am

re: #419 experiencedtraveller

Your detailed post was pure crap, simplistic answer to horse manure are De rigor, for what it is worth.

451 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:01:41am

#444 Silhouette

UB welcome.

He could have phrased it a little different so as not to have the stalinists go nuts with it, but I doubt it even crossed his mind how nutty they are when he said it.

452 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:02:48am

re: #448 Kenneth

re: #426 Oh no...Sand People!

I read that the US military intentionally leaked the start of the Diyala offensive because they knew the leaders would run away and leave their foot-soldiers to die. And it worked. Too bad for the AQ leaders the US troops were already in blocking positions at all the main roads, rivers & border crossing. That's where they killed & captured lots of the AQ commanders.

You know for a fact that no matter how much the media, Harry Reid, and Murtha lie about the results in Iraq, that those on the ground there, terrorists and soldiers alike, know EXACTLY how it is being handled. I guarantee the terrorists don't like the results. That is unless they belonged to some strange belief system where death and self degradation were aggrandized and...oh wait!

453 hippieforlife  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:05:50am

Was she taken away by the Secret Service?

Imagine the uproar if an American went to England and said
"I would love to kill the Queen, non-violently of course."

The Tower would be their next residence.

This has got to stop. This woman came to our country as an invited guest and thinks that gives her the right to speak to our government. From now on the secret service needs to investigate each and every one of these threats to the President.

454 pbird  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:06:58am

re: #40 froghat2k

President Bush must be doing something right if this many people hate him with such passionate words. Geez, even guys like Hitler and Saddam had more love. People fear change

One of the reasons I'm not in the "OMG choir". I still think he'll pull it out if its humanly possible. (It may not be)

455 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:07:13am

re: #452 Oh no...Sand People!

re: #448 Kenneth

re: #426 Oh no...Sand People!

I read that the US military intentionally leaked the start of the Diyala offensive because they knew the leaders would run away and leave their foot-soldiers to die. And it worked. Too bad for the AQ leaders the US troops were already in blocking positions at all the main roads, rivers & border crossing. That's where they killed & captured lots of the AQ commanders.

You know for a fact that no matter how much the media, Harry Reid, and Murtha lie about the results in Iraq, that those on the ground there, terrorists and soldiers alike, know EXACTLY how it is being handled. I guarantee the terrorists don't like the results. That is unless they belonged to some strange belief system where death and self degradation were aggrandized and...oh wait!

I just thought about the movie "Chicago" when they do a flashback to an event where a lady kills her husband. She walks in on him in bed with 2 women. He then says that it isn't what she thinks. The best line:
Adulterous husband in bed with 2 women, "You going to believe what you see, or what I am telling you?"
*GUNSHOTS*

456 John Schneider  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:07:15am

re: #453 hippieforlife

Nah, just throw her out of the country, never to return. Let her make a living on someone else's dime.

457 eff plus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:08:09am

Also, putting aside for a moment her nutty fantasy about ‘non-violent murder,’ what is up with this whole “Muslim World” term anyway? Because last time I checked, we lived in the MODERN world, and in the modern world, territories are divided up into these things called NATION STATES.
There is no such thing as a frigging muslim world! The mere fact that this ridiculous term has wormed its way into mainstream usage carries with it the vague implication that the caliphate actually exists, or maybe that it ‘would rightly exist if it weren’t for some outside interference’ or some drivel.
This term is meaningless, and it, in effect, helps advance the islamofascist agenda. I’m really going to have to start calling people out on that.

458 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:09:17am

re: #450 David E

Quality ad hominem. You should be proud.

459 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:10:38am

#447 chee toe

They have to shave their pits to do that...

Nah. They can wear one of those burque thingies.
Do they keep in the smell, I wonder.

460 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:11:07am

re: #457 eff plus

Also, putting aside for a moment her nutty fantasy about ‘non-violent murder,’ what is up with this whole “Muslim World” term anyway? Because last time I checked, we lived in the MODERN world, and in the modern world, territories are divided up into these things called NATION STATES.
There is no such thing as a frigging muslim world! The mere fact that this ridiculous term has wormed its way into mainstream usage carries with it the vague implication that the caliphate actually exists, or maybe that it ‘would rightly exist if it weren’t for some outside interference’ or some drivel.
This term is meaningless, and it, in effect, helps advance the islamofascist agenda. I’m really going to have to start calling people out on that.

Right on. Right on.

461 pbird  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:11:40am

re: #63 galloping granny

re: #55 alegrias

#46 Ed Mahmoud

Ironically, the current White House chef is a female from the Phillipines-- where Charles daily reports moslems behead & run rampant! Her name is Christeta something or other.

Don't we have any American chefs willing to work in the White House?

Geeminy Christmas! You know he hires all kinds of people. Do you mind if he has a non-white chef, really?

462 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:13:08am

Oh no...Sand People!

You watched the movie Chicago?

What the hell where you thinking?

463 rappmandu  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:13:44am

Betty Williams, Yusuf Islam.

Yusuf Islam, Betty Williams.

You two make a most handsome couple!

464 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:14:14am

re: #443 easy

Your missing the point.

465 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:16:13am

re: #452 Oh no...Sand People!

I am so disgusted with Reid, Pelosi, Murtha etc. I can't imagine how a soldier in Iraq feels when he heard Reids, "the war is lost" speech. Those three should be forcibly imbedded for 6 months with troops in Iraq before they are allowed to open their traitorous mouths again.

466 pbird  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:19:11am

re: #101 froghat2k

re: #49 Milk Toast Intolerant

This morning, as I was listening to the POTUS hold a press briefing, I'd imagined him unloading on everyone about Islam, media bias, and the unpatriotic moral relativists who despise America. But we all know that will never happen. Political correctness has spread across the western hemisphere like a cancer. It's too late to stop it.
I love how people sit behind a keyboard and have the answers for everthing. Ummm, he's the President. Not a WWF wrestler challenging someone to a fight.

Damn right.

467 chee toe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:20:37am

re: #466 pbird

Hell, just drop 'em onto the streets in East L.A. ...

468 Priapus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:23:27am

#440 hous bin pharteen

Why did you not post the whole thing?

I don't think my quote took anything out of context. He said that we need the deaths of thousands of Americans (that is, an attack comparable to 9/11) in order to silence detractors of the President. Was it his throwaway mention of "the troops" at the end that changes the tone for you? I honestly don't see a bit of difference.

469 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:24:53am
“The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief,”

Oh fer keyrist's sake, what complete bullsheet.

abig aboo-Hoo-Hoo

470 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:32:23am

#468 Priapus

Your still playing with words.

"and the naysayers will come around very quickly to appreciate" ="in order to silence detractors of the President"

WTF is that? He is saying they will change their minds. Not that his detractors will be silenced.

Tell me who your high school reading comprehension teacher was so I can smack em upside the head.

471 cookielady  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:33:41am

re: #378 Sponge

Mike Gallagher interviewed this woman on Dallas radio this morning and she stated that she did NOT say that. What she said was, "I would kill anyone that causes harm to children." The DMN misquoted...


for what that's worth.


Okay, so that means she would kill the Muslims in Iraq who are killing and baking children to intimidate their parents?

She would kill the Muslims who had a special prison for children before the U.S. went in and kicked butts and killed bad guys?

She's stupid trash.

472 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:39:03am

re: #471 cookielady

re: #378 Sponge


Mike Gallagher interviewed this woman on Dallas radio this morning and she stated that she did NOT say that. What she said was, "I would kill anyone that causes harm to children." The DMN misquoted...


for what that's worth.


Okay, so that means she would kill the Muslims in Iraq who are killing and baking children to intimidate their parents?

She would kill the Muslims who had a special prison for children before the U.S. went in and kicked butts and killed bad guys?

She's stupid trash.

Suuure she said that. Wonder if it was taped?

473 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:42:09am

re: #468 Priapus

Did you see my post? As in the use of "all we need?"

"The refrigerator went out and now the stove. All we need is the central heat-and-air to go out now."

Many people have said that it will take another attack to reach some people. That doesn't mean anyone wants it.

Can you admit that that interpretation is at least possible?

474 Highrise  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:47:52am
Right now, I could kill George Bush,” she said

Yeah I always thought the nobel peace prize winners were a farce. You fall in line just like arafat and the like did.


The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief,” she said. “Unless the president of the United States is held responsible for what he’s doing and what he has done, there’s no one in the Muslim world who will forgive him.” ...

Two things...the muslim world has always been suffering by their own stonings and head/hand/feet chopping..and hell..let's toss in the torture tactics that really ARE torture that involve gouging out the eyes and taking a drill to the head.

Secondly, muslims forgive? HA! You are an ignorant person. As far as they are concerned if they actually follow what their koran says, he is a christian which is considered an infidel and must die. At this point I'm going to have to ask you to PROVE what you say is true. /crickets

475 TalkinKamel  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:49:40am

Merciful Kannon, is the Graeco-Roman fertility god (i.e, Priapus) back, trying to derail the thread again?

476 easy  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:51:35am

re: #464 experiencedtraveller

re: #443 easy

Your missing the point.


I'm not holding anyone harmless. Murderers are murderers.

One thing does bother me about these kinds of conflicts though. If you are a soldier on one side of the stick you are on the other as well. You can't kill the enemy and then demand due process. If you kill them they can kill you, or capture you and imprison you until your release is bargained for. No whining.

477 wargammer2005  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:51:51am

re: #429 experiencedtraveller

so you send us a WINKI entry, to answer a long list of people killed, an entry on one event?

i guess all those kids that were killed by both sides can rest easier.

478 cookielady  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:52:41am

re: #461 pbird

Geeminy Christmas! You know he hires all kinds of people. Do you mind if he has a non-white chef, really?

So, you are assuming that Americans are white only?

Maybe you need some glasses...

479 Sabraguy  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:56:16am
Ms. Williams started her speech by asking every member of the audience to hug everyone around them.

How desperately liberal.

480 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 11:59:56am
who told the International Women’s Peace Conference

Waiting for her speech at the next CAIR convention.
Or maybe a Mosque that churns out jihadis left and right.


Holding breath...

Face turning blue...


Room starting to spin...

481 zmdavid  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:00:46pm

I have a theory I've wanted to try out here:
I think the Nobel Laureate believes ordinary people don't really have free will - that free will is reserved for the rich and powerful. So she can't hold anyone who's not "elite" responsible for anything - they are just puppets of elites. If they do something right, the "good" leftist/communist elites can take credit for it, if they do something wrong, the "evil" pro-Western civilization elites get the blame. The Islamists don't have any elites - even if they are billionaires.

482 sheik yer'mami[deleted]  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:00:54pm
483 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:01:27pm

re: #465 Kenneth

re: #452 Oh no...Sand People!

I am so disgusted with Reid, Pelosi, Murtha etc. I can't imagine how a soldier in Iraq feels when he heard Reids, "the war is lost" speech. Those three should be forcibly imbedded for 6 months with troops in Iraq before they are allowed to open their traitorous mouths again.

No argument there.

484 Cygnus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:05:03pm

re: #86 haywood_jay

This is what happens when women leftards are let out of the kitchen asylum.

There. That's better.

485 Priapus  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:06:57pm

#470 hous bin pharteen

He is saying they will change their minds. Not that his detractors will be silenced.

I think we're just wrestling with semantics. I don't mean "silenced" as in muzzled, but rather "that sure shut them up". I even said "change...opinion" in my original post. Let's call the whole thing off, shall we?

486 pbird  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:14:12pm

I live in the pointy left point of WA and you are right. They could blow anytime and the weird thing is they are not ALL stoned and limp. Some of them are pretty frisky.

I can't even imagine a right leaning population. What a concept.

Bet I would love Texas, though I suspect it gets pretty warm there...

487 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:15:30pm

re: #477 wargammer2005

Gamer: I (and Easy, I believe) are searching for deeper understanding of sectarian violence via a very well known and documented case IE The Troubles in Northern Ireland.

Was the PIRA from 1970 to 1994 a terrorrist organization? I (and the US Federal Government) thinks not.

If not, then what were they? A genuine resistance movement?

Read the whole thread. This isn't about justification or revenge. Its about tying history's lessons to today's problems.

488 Edward Halper  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:20:02pm

138 lawhawk:

No, most of the violence in the Muslim world is Muslim on Muslim violence, and the US has done more to limit such violence than any Muslim leader has.

We probably do not disagree. My point is that every time someone like Williams makes a claim about Muslim suffering and speaks as if Muslims are the victims of injustice, she sanctions Muslim violence against those whom they suppose to be their oppressors. Remember they think that they are acting morally. In their bizarre reasoning they are seeking a justice they suppose they can attain by murdering others. Every time someone like Williams says, yes you have suffered greatly, she acknowledges the justice of their cause and encourages them to commit more atrocities. She should bear the responsibility for her action. She and people like her partly responsible for the suffering of the Muslim and non-Muslim victims of jihad.

489 pbird  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:21:24pm

re: #407 Digger Dan

#339 MrMom
DIGGER DAN... Are you new here?
No, I've been here for a while. I'm just being a troll today, enjoying the new Ajax comment system, and trying to get some discussion going on how effective these leftist women are at disabling our war on terror. When you think about it, a handful of noisy, leftist, AMERICAN women are taking on the US leadership and we don't really know what to do about it. It's annoying the hell out of me. However, tomorrow I'll get over it.

Has anyone else noticed how the new LGF comment system has changed the whole nature of debate here?

Yup. Now you get to hear more from me. HA

490 alegrias  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:24:23pm

re: #488 Edward Halper

This Betty is the new Betty la Fea, or Betty the Ugly in dhimmi al andalusi spanish.

491 StinkHammer  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:32:19pm

But don'tcha all understand? Bush = Hitler, and everyone agrees that killing Hitler would be a good thing!

/Lefty rationale

492 pbird  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 12:34:41pm

re: #478 cookielady

re: #461 pbird

Geeminy Christmas! You know he hires all kinds of people. Do you mind if he has a non-white chef, really?
So, you are assuming that Americans are white only?

Maybe you need some glasses...

Nope. Thats not what I'm saying at all. In fact thats a funny take on it. It sounds like someone who is trying to take offense.

493 FishFearMe  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 1:02:10pm

Lemme get this straight. She speaks in Dallas of "non-violently" killing the President of the United States. I think my fellow Texans should "non-violently" custom-fit her with a tall tree and a short rope in Dealy Plaza. I'm just sayin'. This comment may send me on a trip to Siberia (banned from LGF) , but it's only meant to show what a dipshit this woman is.

494 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 1:33:18pm

re: #224 Abba Hur

Uh did Ima see this? :)

I know you will get about 3 hours of sleep for a few months, but it goes so fast, I promise, and just enjoy every second. Again, mazel tov to you and your wife!

495 descolada9  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 1:40:23pm

Of course, should the Secret Service do their job then all the leftists are going to start screaming about limitations on the freedom of speech, blah blah blah. This woman disgusts me, the conference she was at disgusts me, and the Nobel committee continue to disgust me. Would be nice to see a group photo of prize winners that included her next to the "peaceful" Yasser Arafish. But you might want to keep her away from the children. We already saw what happened when the Arafish was playing with the boys...

496 65DropTop  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 2:20:02pm

Time to start a whacko website, keeping track of the outright assine and violently hateful statements made that, somehow, are brushed off. Shouldn't this be her "nappy headed **" remark that gets her canned at whatever job she has?

497 NavyBrat  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 2:44:34pm

Secret Service matter all the way.

498 LC LaWedgie  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 2:48:57pm

Looks like she's part of the Soros organization.

Anyone surprised?

499 opnion  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 3:35:03pm

'The Muslim world is suffering?Because of Bush?
Well I guess their world was just a regular paradise before.
No Taliban, no Al Queda, No Oil Sheiks skimming all the cash.
You cannot overestimate the lunacy on the Left.

500 cookielady  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 4:59:26pm

re: #492 pbird


This is the original post upon which you commented. Please note that the chef is FROM the Phillipines (not an American citizen). Your comment turned it from a citizenship issue to a racial one. Your funny take, not mine. I wasn't offended, just thought you should stick to the issue as stated and not turn it into something else. I dislike racebaiting in general.


re: #55 alegrias

#46 Ed Mahmoud

Ironically, the current White House chef is a female from there: #63 galloping granny

re: #55 alegrias


#46 Ed Mahmoud

Ironically, the current White House chef is a female from the Phillipines-- where Charles daily reports moslems behead & run rampant! Her name is Christeta something or other.


Don't we have any American chefs willing to work in the White House?
501 Digger Dan  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 6:37:20pm

re: #446 Oh no...Sand People!

This should have it's own place on LGF.

Intellectual Output of the Arab World

The numbers are staggeringly ridiculous...

Glenn Beck is wrong about four of his "Muslim/Arabs" - they're actually Christians (or Frenchmen):

Albert Camus was was a Frenchman born in Algeria.
Elias James Corey is a Lebanese Christian
Peter Brian Medawar was a Brazilian of Lebanese Christian descent.
Ferid Mourad was Arab Christian

So it's far WORSE than it first appears! Since the beginning of the universe, excluding Yasser Arafat who died of AIDS, there have been only 4 intellectual giants from the Arab world. One of these (Sadat) was assassinated. Najib Mahfooz, was stabbed in the neck by assassins and eventually died. And the two remaining Arab/Muslim intellectuals are living safely in ... you guessed it ... the USA.

502 Cooper4Prez  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:03:08pm
“The Muslim world right now is suffering beyond belief”

I agree with her 100%.

They're suffering from honor killings, beheaddings, suicide bombings, torture, rape, and murder, all at the hands of fellow Muslims (something the "progressive" Al Qaeda allies in the West seem to be fond of omitting when they spew bullshit like this).

503 LC LaWedgie  Thu, Jul 12, 2007 10:57:56pm

Williams apologizes:

"My feelings now and again get way ahead of me," Ms. Williams said. "I couldn't kill anybody, but I must confess that I'm extremely angry with the Bush administration and what they have done. To say that was wrong."

And is martyrized:

"It was an incredible act of bravery to make that statement in Texas," said Lucinda Marshall of Louisville, Ky., who added that the anti-Bush rhetoric appealed to her. "When you have a president that's consistently breaking the law, you do not have a democracy. You have a dictatorship."

504 uptight  Fri, Jul 13, 2007 1:27:21am
How could you nonviolently kill somebody? I would love to be able to do that.

1) You could bore them to death
2) You could make us a nation of pacifists, that way our fascist enemies would do all the killing for you

505 Jed  Fri, Jul 13, 2007 6:04:38am

The Isish, like most of Europe, are vehemently anti-Israel. They are bombarded everyday with anti-Israel propaganda by all the media. And the Israeli govt is incapable of confronting the slanders or defending their own actions.

506 azul93gt  Fri, Jul 13, 2007 2:50:30pm

Sponge,

Mike Gallagher interviewed this woman on Dallas radio this morning and she stated that she did NOT say that. What she said was, "I would kill anyone that causes harm to children." The DMN misquoted...
"My feelings now and again get way ahead of me," Ms. Williams said. "I couldn't kill anybody, but I must confess that I'm extremely angry with the Bush administration and what they have done. To say that was wrong." - Ms. Betty

If she was misquoted then why did she apologize. The b1tch is a liar as well.

It's OK to espouse the murder of people you disagree with if your rationale is that, "It's for the children."

507 Alan K. Henderson  Fri, Jul 13, 2007 8:30:37pm

Sponge,

She was not misquoted. I heard the audio this morning on the Mark Davis Show on radio station WBAP Fort Worth/Dallas.

This article (free but annoying subscription required) has a link to the audio - scroll down to the "Also Online" box.


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