HA!

He is Stan's bitch now! lol

Some say it may be signal ...

strong evidence that he’s Bin Dead.

You do have a way with words. LOL

I hate summer re-reuns.

"Bin Dead" - HA!

Picked this up at Pat Dollard.com

LMAO!

The Jihad Couple

"Bin Dead" --- I like that!

Bin compost

I've thought for years that osama was dead. Kidneys are very important for the body. Besides, if he'd been alive, he'd have released more pep -talk tapes. He knew the value of pr.

"...strong evidence that he’s Bin Dead."

That was good, Charles!

Bin Hangin'. Bin o'History. Bin Blownup. Bin Toast.

Osama can't possibly be dead.

If Allah is with you, who could stand against you?

/but then again...

A(w/terrorists)P: Reporting Jihadi propaganda so the rest of the MSM can spread it!

I am waiting for the "Weekend at Bernies" video.

He's in the Recycle Bin, Laden with guilt.

"Weekend at Osama's" - there you go!

Carradine, that is classic!

I thought he started a new rock band -- Pink Mist.

Osama bin wormfood.

Fox reporting another Al-Q honcho in Iraq was whacked.

Anyone have a link?

'Ol bin Laden looks dead in most of his little videos, anyway, so maybe his boys are propping him up like "Weekend at Bernie's"!

The last move bin Laden made was as a greasy stain dripping down the wall of a cave in Tora Bora. We leveled a mountain range. All the Allahs in the world can't save you from that.

Osama bin Expired.

re: #7 Egfrow

That was good.

When he came out endorsing Jon Carry in 2004, was it authenticated as being new at that time?

Has there been a confirmed communication from OBL since Tora Bora?

I still wonder if we didn't get him they and they just dip into the video vault.

Imagine if this spins out into proof that bin Laden is an ex-parrot. The stunned silence from the "took his eye off the ball" leftists would be sweet, indeed!

Can't the CIA find out if he sent the newlyweds a goat or a set of beheading knives?

[Link: seattletimes.nwsource.com...]

More here:

[Link: hotair.com...]

re: #7 Egfrow

Too bad Hamid didn't have a couple more months with Craig. I'm sure the forces of goodness and sweet naivete would have won him over from the dark side. Nah..probably not. LOL.

re: #25 JammieWearingFool

It was an aduio tape. It was scracy and questionable. Even if it was him, the background noise could have disguised his weakness.

Just what the world needs another Elvis impersonator.

/Bin pushing up flowers for some time

Since it's on topic...

I Left My Corpse In Tora Bora
(sung by Osama Bin Laden,
to the tune of "I Left My Heart In San Francisco")

Allah's promised victory has somehow slipped away
The glory of the Caliphate is buried in the gray
I cannot make a video, just why I cannot say
I'm almost forgotten by the jihadis of to-day

I left my corpse
in Tora Bora
deep in a cave
it calls to me

Where Mullah Omar's car
was blown halfway to the stars
by a Hellfire UAV

Somewhere deep in Tora Bora
Beneath the rocks and the debris
I wait for you to see, in Tora Bora
But Zawahiri's on T... V...

© 2007, Dar ul Harb

re: #30 screaming_eagle

re: #25 JammieWearingFool

It
was an aduio tape. It was scracy and questionable. Even if it was him,
the background noise could have disguised his weakness.

Could have sworn there was a video.

re: #26 jcm

Has there been a confirmed communication from OBL since Tora Bora?

I still wonder if we didn't get him they and they just dip into the video vault.

Ok let's get this straight once and for all, last CONFIRMED video of Bin Laden was in 2004. I don't like lizards sounding mis-informed. Here's a quote from the wiki article on it:

The release of the tape was reportedly timed to occur just four days before the 2004 U.S. presidential election and bin Laden mentions both of the major contenders, telling Americans: "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al-Qaida. Your security is in your own hands and each state which does not harm our security will remain safe".

No wonder they can't find him. The sucker's six feet underground.

What would they have to use? A shit detector? An ACME jihad detector? NO, no...I've got it! One of those fungus sniffing pigs!

re: #33 JammieWearingFool

No. Last video was Tora Bora.

Sorry to contradict Associated Press writer Omar Sinan, but it was immediately clear when the video was filmed—in October 2001.

Are you really sorry or are you just saying that?

/lol

Irrelevant news of the day.

Rove Strategy Paper Found in Nixon Archive

The NY Times finds this newsworthy, which may explain their irrelevance.

Can't we get just one more baby food (all signs in english) factory out of him.

/too late, Solient Green time

re: #36 screaming_eagle

re: #33 JammieWearingFool

No. Last video was Tora Bora.

No, last vid was in 2004. Check my link above

re: #34 Thanos

That was an aduio tape.

re: #7 Egfrow

That's pretty dark and pretty funny, too. Of course, it'll be completely lost on some...!

re: #36 screaming_eagle

re: #33 JammieWearingFool

No. Last video was Tora Bora.

Got it.

Amazing how many news services are considering this a new tape.

Please, this asshats's deader than disco, enjoying a fate in Hell I can't even begin to contemplate.

In the future, if you bellicose imbeciles want us to believe your beloved sheikh is still among the living, have his son release another audio tape claiming to be pops, at least that'll be slightly more credible than this obviously dated footage...with NO references to recent events, I might add.

Looks like Ayman's all that's left at the top...and not for much longer, judging from how pissed off Musharaf is nowadays. Time for him to let slip the dogs of war in those remote tribal regions.

So it's tech-iyya?

re: #40 Thanos

It was audio.

'E's just pining for the fjiords.

re: #34 Thanos

Thanks forgot about that one.

re: #40 Thanos

re: #36 screaming_eagle

re: #33 JammieWearingFool

No. Last video was Tora Bora.

No, last vid was in 2004. Check my link above

How did he "move his arms" on an audio tape ?
This was broadcast on Al Jazeera, follow the link, read the article, then comment

A nice debate on indian muslims blatant support to terrorists
The debate is split into 7 parts...
[Link: www.ibnlive.com...]

Inshallah, al-Sadr is next.

re: #49 Thanos

It was rehashed footage with a new audio voice over. The last "NEW" video footage of him was in Tora Bora.

Give me a sec and I'll get you a link.

Bin Voyage sucker

It continues to amaze me that MSM simply won't pick up the real story and the real cost of jihad. CAIR and the mullahs keep screaming about all of the insults to islam, islamaphobia, etc... but jihad kills far more muslims than it does infidels. The bottom line is that muslims kill more muslims than infidels kill muslims; and muslims kill more muslims than muslims kill infidels. When it's all said and done, the jihadis will be just one more but splat on the great American windshield.

Please folks, I am not trying to pick at you or anything, but it's real important if we are to win on the battle ground of ideas that we have our facts 100% correct since people count on to... the point of the article posted above is that they can't count on the MSM.

[Link: www.whatreallyhappened.com...]

re: #42 6pat6

Most Americans still don't have a clue.

I saw Bin Laden at the Piggly Wiggly near the fresh fruits.

Bin Laden=New Elvis

'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This jihadi is no more! 'E has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile! THIS IS AN EX-JIHADI!

re: #58 Randman

I saw Bin Laden at the Piggly Wiggly near the fresh fruits.

Bin Laden=New Elvis

haha...ladies and gentleman...Bin Laden has just left the building

Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has died of typhoid in Pakistan, according to reports in a regional French newspaper.

The paper quoted one of the country's secret service reports, saying that Saudi Arabia is convinced that Bin Laden died a month ago.

L'Est Republicain also said a copy of the report was shown to President Jacques Chirac and the French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin.

"According to a usually reliable source, the Saudi services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead," the document said.

"The information gathered by the Saudis indicates that the head of al Qaeda was a victim while he was in Pakistan on August 23, 2006, of a very serious case of typhoid which led to a partial paralysis of his internal organs."

The report, which was stamped with a "confidential defence" label and the initials of the French secret service, said Saudi Arabia first heard the information on September 4.

The whole "is he dead or alive" thing makes me wonder if it is relevant or just becoming an Elvis-like obsession.

I have thought that Bin Laden has been dead for a while.
Why hasn't he been taunting us?
This clip makes no reference to anything current.
In a wierd way the MSM kind of like OBL like they still like Che.
Che was a cowardly little butcher. So what?Radical chic!

re: #52 screaming_eagle

re: #49 Thanos

It was rehashed footage with a new audio voice over. The last "NEW" video footage of him was in Tora Bora.

Give me a sec and I'll get you a link.

No need to if that' really the case. However I am going to ask for the point of the discussion, what difference would it make? We have confirmed that he was alive in 2004. Let's not get all wonky like the left and start cooking conspiracies. The only diff between audio and vid is that he maybe couldn't make it to a modern studio. Note that he appears older in the video than the Tora Bora vids, so the tape was made later even if it was a voice over of older vid footage.

re: #55 Thanos

Exactly and your falling for it too. A new video is not rehashed footage. Show me one where the audio matches the footage and it is current dates. Or footage of a newspaper that's dated current. Video footage when he is younger some 2 years later is not new.

re: #54 huckfunn

Well said! Killing is foundational to their faith. I find that abhorrent.

The scenario of Bin Laden becoming a part of the mountain after a Thermobaric Bomb hits his cave is highly likely and the reason Zawahiri has been doing all the press for the past few years. But Zawahiri is the power behind the throne, Bin Laden as a symbol was more useful than a fighter or a leader since his crew suffered the worst casualty rate in the Soviet/Afghan War.

re: #56 screaming_eagle

thats very interesting

re: #55 Thanos

No- we can't count on the msm to tell us sh*t. That should be crystal clear to many of us by now. When it's no longer factual, what is the news? In my opinion- it becomes propaganda.

/And this isn't exactly pro-American propaganda.

re: #64 Thanos

Alright let's drop this discussion. He is dead. When doesn't matter too much.

re: #61 FQ Kafir

Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has died of typhoid in Pakistan, according to reports in a regional French newspaper.
The paper quoted one of the country's secret service reports, saying that Saudi Arabia is convinced that Bin Laden died a month ago.

L'Est Republicain also said a copy of the report was shown to President Jacques Chirac and the French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin.

"According to a usually reliable source, the Saudi services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead," the document said.

"The information gathered by the Saudis indicates that the head of al Qaeda was a victim while he was in Pakistan on August 23, 2006, of a very serious case of typhoid which led to a partial paralysis of his internal organs."

The report, which was stamped with a "confidential defence" label and the initials of the French secret service, said Saudi Arabia first heard the information on September 4.

Here's my old post on that, note the part about the new sura council for AQ, and Zawahiri taking over. This could have been a coup.

Regarding the debate about if bin Laden is dead or not or when and how he might have died...

It's my contention that men of bin Laden's stature, who have disgraced this planet and disgraced G_d's creation, usually die a death befitting their disgrace.

Hitler's death was the ultimate in cowardice - a suicide...while cowering in a bunker smelling of urine and fear. Yassir Arafat, dying slowly of AIDS in a French hospital. And bin Laden... dying in the mountains of Pakistan, dying from his old kidney affliction...a slow, torturous death and all the time, bin Laden knowing that a cure to his pain, a cure to save his life is literally a helicopter ride away, yet all he hears is the sound of drones overhead and the shouts of Army Rangers on the next peak.

bin Laden will go down in history as just another of these pukes that died sobbing and screaming in a fetal position. And it was meant to be that way.

re: #18 6pat6

Theng kyew, theng kyew, I'll be here all week, try the veal, remember to tip your waitress!

Na na na na, na na,na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!

I've always thought bin Laden was killed in Tora Bora - if not outright, then from wounds he suffered there. But he's definitely dead. And I think he died in Tora Bora.
Indeed, to paraphrase President Bush, I think he's in a tunnel which no longer has any exits or entrances.

re: #65 screaming_eagle

re: #55 Thanos

Exactly and your falling for it too. A new video is not rehashed footage. Show me one where the audio matches the footage and it is current dates. Or footage of a newspaper that's dated current. Video footage when he is younger some 2 years later is not new.

Falling for what? That we have newer video of Bin Laden than Tora Bora vids where he is much less aged? That's a fact, whether that was voice over or not. Falling for the fact that he was alive in 2004 since the audio was authenticated? That's a fact.
Now what exactly am I falling for?

re: #7 Egfrow

ROFLMAO ! :)))

re: #56 screaming_eagle

[Link: www.whatreallyhappened.com...]

Troofer website.

re: #56 screaming_eagle

Tell me you (a lizard!) didn't link to whatreallyhappened without a nutroots disclaimer.

OT: According to Bridgeton New (NJ), Airman Jonathan Schrieken's condition was upgraded from critical to stable.

First off, congrats to Hot Air.

Second,

It would be a huge propaganda blow if Al Qaeda could release a video showing Bin Laden indisputably alive. But repackaging six-year old videos (even if they fool the AP) is strong evidence that he’s Bin Dead. For quite a while.

I'm with you, I don't think they can. In fact, this was the subject of my latest blog post Let’s Challenge Al Qaeda To Prove That Bin Laden Is Still Alive

/sorry for the blog pimp, but its related and I was hoping to get you guys' insight on the idea

re: #76 Thanos

re: #70 screaming_eagle

re: #78 Dar ul Harb

Thanks! :D

Bin Laden will emerge only after the nukes go off in America.

You all may be right. Although I still think he is in Iran[ held by them because he is Sunni] just like Muhammad Zaidan was in Iraq.

re: #61 FQ Kafir

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. An even more likely event.

re: #79 m

I was using it to stress to editing cababilties. Yes they have conspiracy theories on everything.

re: #80 DeerMusic

OT: According to Bridgeton New (NJ), Airman Jonathan Schrieken's condition was upgraded from critical to stable.

Good on ya, Shrieken! We're cheering for you, take your time, but stay on the healing, upward course!

re: #75 realwest

I've always thought bin Laden was killed in Tora Bora - if not outright, then from wounds he suffered there. But he's definitely dead. And I think he died in Tora Bora.
Indeed, to paraphrase President Bush, I think he's in a tunnel which no longer has any exits or entrances.

Hey RW! How are you this fine Sunday morning?

If bin Laden was killed in Tora Bora that would blow a huge hole in Lefties rallying cry that Bush took his "eyes off the ball" and diverted attention to Iraq.

re: #77 unstable

My favorite line.."Craig, I consider you an accomplice."'
LMAO

That's the most curious thing about this video. Why exactly is AQ repackaging old footage if he's alive? It's not as though they couldn't throw in a go-message into new texts spoken by osama if he were alive, but this continues to add evidence that he is well and truly dead.

That's also not to say that this video can't be used as a go code or that osama didn't put together some other videos to claim victory on planned attacks yet to be carried out.

More here. That the AP doesn't bother to do its basic due diligence and realize that this is cutting room floor scraps or recycled video is not shocking.

It would be nice if we were able to find his rotting corpse, though I doubt we'd find it if he is buried under hundreds of tons of rubble in Tora Bora.

Ha! Bin Dead. Good one, Charles!

In the spirit of being Green, you could reword this:

I’m more convinced than ever that Osama bin Laden is no longer consuming oxygen...

To say:

I’m more convinced than ever that Osama bin Laden is no longer contributing to global warmening by exhaling CO2...

As much as the holy-warriors want Osama to be alive, so does the left.

I wonder if the American left-wing press will even mention the facts?

all this while Pelosi orchestrates to raise the bounty on his head from 25 million to 50 million...yea you're really doing a great job there nancy drew.

re: #78 Dar ul Harb

re: #56 screaming_eagle

[Link: www.whatreallyhappened.com...]

Troofer website.

Exactly. Let's not go Rosie and sound like tin foil hat wearing troofers.

I've 'Bin' referring to him as 'Dead Laden' for some time now :)

re: #89 DesertSage

If bin Laden was killed in Tora Bora that would blow a huge hole in
Lefties rallying cry that Bush took his "eyes off the ball" and
diverted attention to Iraq.

Exactly.

He's been dead for a while now.

Let's get Zawahiri dead or captured.

re: #95 Thanos

Rosie -- like all 'troofers' -- is acluistic.

I will drop it as well by stating that he's dead, deserted, or captured. No leader of his purported "caliber" would let his org disintegrate and break into schisms if they could prevent it. That means dead, disinterested, or captured.

re: #95 Thanos

re: #87 screaming_eagle

I watched the movie
"The Lord of the rings"
Guess trolls really do exist. It was in the movie. Can't be video editing.

re: #81 ChenZhen

Here's another scenario. We know he's dead (possible killed in action) and we don't want to give him martyrdom status yet. AQ knows he's dead but would rather keep the myth alive that he's still bravely evading and fighting the Infidels. "What about the outraged moonbats' mantra about going after Bin Laden?," you say. Both our government and AQ agree that moonbat public opinion is against fighting terrorism regardless of bin Laden's status so it's a moot point.

re: #98 NoSubmission

He's been dead for a while now.

Let's get Zawahiri dead or captured.

Bull's eye, he's in the lead now.

“The happy (man) is the one that God has chosen him to be a martyr,” added bin Laden, who was shown outdoors wearing army fatigues and looking tired expired.

Sounds like a jihad fortune cookie.

The house of representatives voted to double the reward for Bin Laden.
Does anyone happen to know if it said dead or alive?

/100 million for a dead head isn't chump change.

i love the irony of bin laden w/ all his millions, dying in a third world hole of a third world disease typhoid. perfect.

re: #92 IowaInfidel

To say:

I’m more convinced than ever that Osama bin Laden is no longer contributing to global warming by exhaling CO2...

His rotting corpse is producing a lot more green house gases such as methane. We should send Al Gore to Tora Bora I'm he can sniff out the source.

Ruff, ruff. What's that boy, you found the body. Ruff, ruff. Good Boy! Here's a Carbon Credit.

re: #100 Thanos

Yeh. Turce to you. We're agruing over something stupid here.

Well I am out, vacation time.. psst new threads on

re: #104 NoSubmission

“The happy (man) is the one that God has chosen him to be a martyr,” added bin Laden, who was shown outdoors wearing army fatigues and looking tired expired.

Sounds like a jihad fortune cookie.

ha yea one that explodes right after you finish reading the message

re: #104 NoSubmission

“The happy (man) is the one that God has chosen him to be a martyr,” added bin Laden, who was shown outdoors wearing army fatigues and looking tired expired.

Sounds like a jihad fortune cookie.

Fortune baklava!

re: #102 Killgore Trout

Yes. If he is dead he is a martyr. If he is alive it's in your face. If he f*cks a goat he is a hero. If he gets f*cked by a goat he is a victim.

They'll spin it anyway they can to get the most out of it.

re: #109 Thanos

Well I am out, vacation time.. psst new threads on

Thanos,

Enjoy your vacation! Well Deserved! Don't forget your Lizard Water Wings! hahahaha

This is why I read Littlegreenfootballs. To get the truth. Everyone else is spinning like tops, but it is easily checked out, and exposed. The common sense shown here and other blogs makes reading the news a bit easier.

re: #84 mike_trivisonno

Bin Laden will emerge only after the nukes go off in America.

What exactly do you mean by that?

Apparently the "truce" between the tribal (terrorist supporting) area of northwest Pakistan and the Musharraf lead government is over. So much for appeasement policy and diplomacy -- never worked before so why should it now. I now hope Musharraf and the army clean out the area this time -- and if needed let a few Hellfires are called in for support.

re: #102 Killgore Trout

re: #81 ChenZhen

Here's another scenario. We know he's dead (possible killed in action) and we don't want to give him martyrdom status yet. AQ knows he's dead but would rather keep the myth alive that he's still bravely evading and fighting the Infidels. "What about the outraged moonbats' mantra about going after Bin Laden?," you say. Both our government and AQ agree that moonbat public opinion is against fighting terrorism regardless of bin Laden's status so it's a moot point.

If he was killed in action, wouldn't AQ have given him martyrdom status by now? That, and it's pretty disturbing to think that Bush would be allowing AQ to keep on the ruse that the guy is still breathing when we know he isn't.

I don't see any martyrdom points if OBL died of natural causes. I think that's why AQ is trying to fool us (and their own followers, presumably) and I think we need to call them on it.

I don't think it's particularly 'troofer' to hypothecate that he may be dead. Fact is there has been scant 'evidence' of his existence since 9/11; yet plenty of appearances by Al-Finger-Wagga; who's ostensibly only No. 2 Loon.

I had read somewhere that bin Laden's fav book was Isaac Azimov's The Foundation (read, Al Qaida in Arabic). In the book apparently a character (Hari Seldon) makes use of pre-recorded videos to be played even after he is dead to encourage his followers and confound his enemies or something like that.

I got this from one of those Peter Bergen books about bin Laden I think.

The point is Al-Qaida is weak to all hell. Anyone with any bit of training is clinging to the rocks of Afghanistan for dear life or come to realize that there aren't 72 virigins when you die (but a fiery pit of Hell). Look at the doctors' plot in the UK.

Al-Qaida is a spent force and has been. The problem is that Islam and anti-American/anti-West at large sentiment has fuelled the willingness of more Muslims to go on jihad. Now, they wont win by actually taking the West in a fight. They will win by supporting the apathy that grips people today.

When people I meet in universities can't tell me why we have democracy and capitalism or their value, except that these two notions are apparently the root cause of ALL suffering, I fear for the future of our Western society.

Thanks to LGF and HotAir!

Yup, if Bin Laden were still alive, he'd certainly be making new videos to rouse his fanatical Muslim comrades to new heights of barbarism.

You know the left will just say Bush did it... and something like this... Of course it's fake, there is no war on terror, There has never been any terrorist attack ever it was all the USofA trying to rule the world trough fear...

Bin Laden and Elvis have a new band, "Room Temperature". I think they played on Live Earth, but not sure as no one was watching.

re: #117 ChenZhen

I don't see any martyrdom points if OBL died of natural causes. I think that's why AQ is trying to fool us (and their own followers, presumably) and I think we need to call them on it.

From a strategic standpoint, AQ would probably never want to admit that OBL is dust. They would want to deny the West the chance to rejoice more than their own need to declare him martyred. Al Q#2 guy is taking the (spit) glory that OBL would never allow if he was still contributing to the jihad.

re: #119 walahi

Ahh, but Hari Seldon was trying to prevent the collapse of civilization through a mathematically conceived 1000 year plan that would, by using his unique algorithms, guide the tiny Foundation in it's quest to prevent the scattering and loss of humanity's collective knowledge base in a galactic society spiralling towards oblivion.

Sorry, huge fan .

re: #107 Idle Drifter

re: #92 IowaInfidel

To say:

I’m more convinced than ever that Osama bin Laden is no longer contributing to global warming by exhaling CO2...

His rotting corpse is producing a lot more green house gases such as methane. We should send Al Gore to Tora Bora I'm he can sniff out the source.

Ruff, ruff. What's that boy, you found the body. Ruff, ruff. Good Boy! Here's a Carbon Credit.

LOL! But if his body is buried under tons of rubble, the gases from his decoposing corpse are sequestered!

al-Gore: Will work for carbon credits.

The guy was practically an attention whore. It is quite unlikely that he'd still be around and not getting in our faces all the time.

These guys have all the same technology we have. They could easily provide some footage without giving his position away, and it would really buck up the Jihadis and the Michael Moore types, who'd go into multiple orgasms to see their beloved hero again.

It does not stand to reason why there's no new video. They have the means and the motive. What they don't have is their star.

re: #117 ChenZhen Huh, you're sounding more like a lizard everyday!
But suppose bin Laden had died of wounds suffered in Tora Bora (he was, remember, on dialysis, so not in great physical condition anyway)? Wouldn't that grant him "martyrdom" status? And who "wins" if the lie that he's still alive should remain viable?
As I said above, I think he's dead. I think he died in Tora Bora and to paraphrase President Bush, he's in a tunnel that no longer has any exits or entrances.

re: #55 Thanos

Please folks, I am not trying to pick at you or anything, but it's real important if we are to win on the battle ground of ideas that we have our facts 100% correct since people count on to... the point of the article posted above is that they can't count on the MSM.

re: #78 Dar ul Harb

re: #56 screaming_eagle

[Link: www.whatreallyhappened.com...]

Troofer website.

Great example of blogs figuring out truth. Thanks guys.

With the Sopranos at an end, maybe AQ would consider hiring the crew that brought "Tony's Mother" back to life. It would make for more interesting video I'm sure.

-S-

The LGF brain trust not only determined the video was extremely old after a few minutes, but within half an hour a poster identified the exact source of the footage.

Its so easy to fool the foolish (AP) I suppose Bin-Liner is taking a dirt nap now?

Sing with me, y'all

Ding dong the bitch is dead
Which old bitch
Bin Laden bitch
Ding dong that son-of-a-bitch is dead

re: #130 pat

The LGF brain trust not only determined the video was extremely old after a few minutes, but within half an hour a poster identified the exact source of the footage.

Shhh! Dan Rather wants to break that story.

I'm sure bin Laden did not die of typhoid or liver disease. He died of high-speed lead poisoning...maybe depleted uranium, but that's speculation.

re: #133 Jack Reacher

Shhh! Dan Rather wants to break that story.

ROFLMAO

Barring a titanic AQ marketing snafu, I think even the most skeptical of us can rest assured that the only Osama still running around is Barak Osama. Kudos to the Lizard army who have been maintaining this for some time. Meanwhile, the MSM has been waiting around on pins and needles, hoping he'd appear, like Martin Bormann in Beyond the Valley of the Dolls.

With aopiligies to Robert Calvert.

Where dat Osi id
Did dey do dat Osi in
Osi in heben
Or Osi in hell
Or Osi just not feelin well
Where dat Osi idi id?

re: #61 FQ Kafir

Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has died of typhoid in Pakistan, according to reports in a regional French newspaper.The paper quoted one of the country's secret service reports, saying that Saudi Arabia is convinced that Bin Laden died a month ago.

L'Est Republicain also said a copy of the report was shown to President Jacques Chirac and the French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin.

"According to a usually reliable source, the Saudi services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead," the document said.

"The information gathered by the Saudis indicates that the head of al Qaeda was a victim while he was in Pakistan on August 23, 2006, of a very serious case of typhoid which led to a partial paralysis of his internal organs."

The report, which was stamped with a "confidential defence" label and the initials of the French secret service, said Saudi Arabia first heard the information on September 4.

Is there a source for this story? Thanks...

al-Qaida’s media production wing

So if I wanted to buy some stock in that fine company, would that be NASDAQ? AMEX?
Will they be making any movies about boy wizards perhaps?

re: #131 baconeatingkaffir

Its so easy to fool the foolish (AP) I suppose Bin-Liner is taking a dirt nap now?

Bin Dirt Nappin'.

re: #127 realwest

re: #117 ChenZhen Huh, you're sounding more like a lizard everyday!
But suppose bin Laden had died of wounds suffered in Tora Bora (he was, remember, on dialysis, so not in great physical condition anyway)? Wouldn't that grant him "martyrdom" status? And who "wins" if the lie that he's still alive should remain viable?
As I said above, I think he's dead. I think he died in Tora Bora and to paraphrase President Bush, he's in a tunnel that no longer has any exits or entrances.

Haven't we heard from him since the battle of Tora Bora though? Like the 2004 video?

From the ‘Dumb-as-a-sack-full-of-bricks-department&rs quo;

Dutch Minister: “The Netherlands will be Islamic at some point in the future”

yep he nailed it the sucker been worm munch for some time or we would see a real new tape not one from 2002

but the fools in the ap and MSM sure show there bias on stuff like this

Wiki has a list of statements, video and audio of OBL since 9/11. Bin laden may have died as late as last year , assuming the audiotapes are authentic. But it looks like there is no video proving he is alive since 2004.

re: #141 ChenZhen Indeed. But the battles in Tora Bora didn't end in 2001 or 2002 or 2003 and indeed, even today we "occasionally" bomb the crap out of Tora Bora if for no other reason than there are more tunnels there than roaches in a cheap motel, and some of those tunnels still contain materials of war and, probably, wounded Al-Q fighters.
The magnitude of the Tora Bora tunnel system is still not fully grasped. It had been carefully prepared since the Russian war and Russian loss in Afghanistan.
And, notwithstanding your post, I still think you're in danger of becoming a lizard!

These "new" Bin Laden videos are starting to give me the same feeling as posthumous Hendrix albums. The guy obviously left a whole bunch of stuff in the can for wannabee producers to scavenge and repackage.

It's going to take a hell of a lot more than some snippet of file footage to convince me he's still breathing. If the evil Dr. Z's got web access and is comfortable enough to trust a camera crew, you have to believe if UBL were alive, he'd be close by and living it up on the same amenities. They'd surely have released an album of duets by now...

Bin Laden Has Left The Building

Sounds good. But I think Elvis copyrighted that one.

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He died years ago, probably of chronic renal failure. He had that odd alteration of the facial soft tissue compartments which you used to see in people with end-stage uremia. Rare now, since the advent of dialysis, but I don't suppose a machine was available in Tora Bora.

Allahu Fubar.

re: #145 realwest

re: #141 ChenZhen Indeed. But the battles in Tora Bora didn't end in 2001 or 2002 or 2003 and indeed, even today we "occasionally" bomb the crap out of Tora Bora if for no other reason than there are more tunnels there than roaches in a cheap motel, and some of those tunnels still contain materials of war and, probably, wounded Al-Q fighters.
The magnitude of the Tora Bora tunnel system is still not fully grasped. It had been carefully prepared since the Russian war and Russian loss in Afghanistan.
And, notwithstanding your post, I still think you're in danger of becoming a lizard!

But by all accounts, OBL fled tora bora during the '01 battle, correct? Even if I give you the benefit of the doubt that we still 'bomb' it, I don't know why there is reason to believe he would be there.

According to Lawrence Wright's book, "The Looming Tower", Bin Laden spent years in very unsanitary environment, no clean water, no electricity. There is a passage talking about their water supply and how their guests were disgusted that it was filled with larvae.

Yep, I think he's dead.

One thing that puzzles me:

"At the end of the broadcast, images of the Sept. 11 attacks were shown, and a voice could be heard saying, "In a few days, the crusaders' landmarks were flattened."

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Now why do so many doubt these guys brought down the WTC Towers when they consistently take credit for doing so?

OBL is the new Tupac, He will be releasing 'new albums' well after his death.

Sorry to go slightly OT here, but I have a question maybe someone here can answer because I’m no expert on Islam: It strikes me as odd (and possibly biased) that in news stories like the above, and just about every other one it seems, when the writer or anchor person refers to the actual historical figure Muhammad, they refer to him as “the Prophet Muhammad,” making it sound as if his being a “prophet” is an undisputed fact. I mean, at least in this AP story, they capitalized “Prophet” as if it was part of his name, but other sources I’ve seen don’t, and you can’t tell in broadcast media. And besides, his name wasn’t “The Prophet Muhammad” anyway, right? His name was just “Muhammad” and he claimed to be a “prophet,” isn’t that right? Or did he change his name at some point in his life and make it officially “The Prophet Muhammad”? (If he did, that’s a pretty shifty move.) I mean, when they report news that includes a reference to the actual historical figure Jesus Christ, they don’t say “the Savior Jesus Christ.”

So what do you think? Can there possibly be a rational justification for this? Or is this another example of Islamic propaganda creep?

Charles, thanks for posting this. I noticed the same thing. This video was clearly made a while ago, and the media definitely knew this, yet they've been covering this like Bin Laden just reappeared.

I don't know if he is dead or not, but it's hard to miss where the media is going with this.

MOHOMMAD (shit be upon him)

a prophet of the SATAN

I used to think Osama was dead too. Then he issued an endorsement of John Kerry in October 2004.

Basically, until we see pictures of Special Forces pissing on Osama's remains in the mountains of Waziristan, we must assume he's still alive.

BIN LADEN BIN DECOMPOSIN? HOW BIN TRAGIC!

re: #156 Dirk Diggler

I used to think Osama was dead too. Then he issued an endorsement of John Kerry in October 2004.

Basically, until we see pictures of Special Forces pissing on Osama's remains in the mountains of Waziristan, we must assume he's still alive.

At the time that video was released, analysis by posters at LGF was inconclusive.

foreign devil believed it was created from Bin Laden's son's wedding video probably from early 2001. Bin Laden shown here with his son and the late Mohammed Atef (killed by a U.S. airstrike near Kabul in 2001), who was the father of the bride, is wearing clothes similar to those shown in the 2004 video.

evariste who listened to the tape found the Arabic sountrack convincing.

I enjoyed Mark Steyn's rendition - Osama's bin Laden to rest.

I should say evariste watched and listened to the tape...

This video did not fool the AP. Fooling AP would presume that AP was not in on the lie to begin with.

Bin Laden ain't bin Laid in a long, long while.

Here's a cruel irony for Bin Laden and other diabetic Muslims:

[Link: www.wired.com...]
Pigs May Hold Key to Diabetes

re: #161 salt1907

This video did not fool the AP. Fooling AP would presume that AP was not in on the lie to begin with.

Indeed.

Remember 9/10.

Islam tried to destroy the sleeping West without war, but their own bastard children could not wait and woke it up.

Now it´s just as probable that their larger-than-life icon is dead as it is improbable that his death can ever be proven. A sort of Islamic version of the Wandering Jew.

And it´s a good thing, if Bin Laden was caught alive or found dead the Al-Saud would probably oder Bush to declare the war is over, and go back to 9/10.

Guys, I posted this on another site and want your opinion on it. I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but on this I am!

Source: hotair.com/archives/2007/07/14/new-osama-video-rel eased/

After years of silence from Bin Laden this is the best his desperate followers can do to keep up the "he's still alive" image. My question is this: When did the CIA find out about his death and why do they insist on keeping it under wraps? I mean, cmon, does anyone actually believe this guy is still alive? I find this extremely fishy! This must explain why Bush responded to to a question about Bin Laden by saying:

‘I truly am not that concerned about him’, said President George W Bush on 13 March 2002, after being asked the million-dollar question ‘where is bin Laden?’ once too often 5. ‘Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he’s alive at all’, said Bush, brushing bin Laden off as ‘a person who has now been marginalized’
You can find this quote at [Link: www.cursor.org...]

Also, don't you find it odd that the congress agreed to raise the bounty on Bin Laden from 25 to 50 million at the same time this fake old footage comes out? It's like both dems and repubs are working together to keep Bin laden "alive" in the American peoples mind. Makes you go hmmm.

Source for bounty: mwcnews.net/content/view/15436&Itemid=1

What do you guys think?

What difference would it make how he died? Between the MSM, CAIR and AQ the spin will be he died a hero's death, even if he was shot by a jealous goat. Just remember the quote from "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence".

re: #156 Dirk Diggler

I used to think Osama was dead too. Then he issued an endorsement of John Kerry in October 2004.

Basically, until we see pictures of Special Forces pissing on Osama's remains in the mountains of Waziristan, we must assume he's still alive.

Yep; he was at least alive in June 2006, because he was on an audio tape (reportedly authentic) talking about Zarqawi's death. Call me skeptical on claims of his death until it can be verified.

Well if he is dead, does that mean his edorsement of Hillary will not count for much?

With all the technology available... cell phone video, cheap video cameras, etc. There should be new videos not audio.

If he isn't dead, he might as well be. I don't buy the audio tapes so much... most of the modern tapes with specific audio is attributed to #2, not Osama.

re: #166 froghat2k

Perhaps they believe that as long as Bin Laden is 'alive' as a symbol of our enemy, our attention will remain focused on the whole terrorism issue, especially during election time? Perhaps Bush's fear is that if we begin to believe Bin Laden is dead, the Left will start pushing for withdrawal from Afghanistan, too. This war is different from any other war we've ever fought. There are no borders, there is no one dictator sending an organized army to conquer individual countries. No formal war has even been declared. Bin Laden puts a face on a faceless enemy.

I've always imagined that if our Special Forces ever caught up with Bin Laden, they would bust a cap on him and quietly bury his sorry remains in a shallow grave somewhere. If his death were publicized, it would result in his martyrdom and present a rallying point for the jihadists; if he were taken alive, there would be no end to the hostage takings and bombings linked with demands for his release that would result.

Well if I were GW, I would simply act, from now on, as if bin Laden was in fact killed at Tora Bora and let it become more and more apparent that the 'took his eye off the ball' lefties have basically been ropa-a-doped by him again by allowing themselves to think bin Laden was still alive

re: #173 Armigerous

Well if I were GW, I would simply act, from now on, as if bin Laden was in fact killed at Tora Bora and let it become more and more apparent that the 'took his eye off the ball' lefties have basically been rope-a-doped by him again by allowing themselves to think bin Laden was still alive

re: #169 opnion

No, but you can bet his vote, along with a lot of other votes from dead people, will be for the dhimmicrats.

re: #174 Armigerous

Deja vous?

re: #174 Armigerous

Deja vous?

I don't know that we can make the case that bin Laden (may pigs crap upon him) is dead. About the best we can do is say that it is likely that he is either dead or in such poor physical condition due to complications of diabetes, that he can't be shown on film. I lean towards the dead theory myself, since I think that even in such poor physical condition, he could do voice tapes with current time references, etc. While not as good as a picture, it would be fair evidence of his continued existence.

There are some hints out there. Some time back, Bush said something like "I don't worry about Osama now." It was in response to a question about a tape release (and it was a number of years ago, possibly after the Tora Bora battle). Anyway, if we wanted to "read" something into that, we could speculate that our intel folks had strong indications that we had either gotten Osama, or that he had died. With no direct evidence -- a rotting, maggot-encrusted corpse -- it would not make sense to say he was gone. If the intel was wrong (that never happens, right), then all bin Deaden would have to do is appear on easily verified tape showing he was indisputably alive. Hence the 'I'm not worrying about him anymore' reference.

I know, that's a lot of stew from just one oyster, but I think it's a reasonable analysis. [Or maybe just wishful thinking! 8-) ]

Paging Doctor McCoy, Doctor McCoy, please pick up the white courtesy phone and bring your tricorder...

Just wondering aloud here.
I would think the DOD and CIA might have an idea if Bin Laden was dead or not but may not have enough proof to come out and say it.
It also stands to reason that high ups in both parties would be aware of what the intel says.
This would explain why the Dems keep bringing up the "get out of Iraq, we should be going after Bin Laden" theme as their war stategery.
It makes perfect sense for them to want the Bush Admin to get Bin Laden if they know he is already dead and Bush can't succeed at that task and can't prove he already got him.

UBL's bin laden the dust of Tora Bora or some other Afghani hell hole long time now.
It's just that there's absolutely no upside for the US to talk about it.
Yet.

KOS's hero and God is dead?

say it aint so.

We need to commit all our resources to Afghanistan so we can get Bin Laden

Oh, hes dead? Arent we the fucking idiots.

/All the Dems on Meet the Press in the last 6 years

"wearing...fatigues and looking tired."

(#4 of 7 Fashion No-Nos for the Over-40 Jihadi--right after dark socks with jean shorts)

/Must I do all the rimshots around here?

The entire MSM is still pimping this as "brand new" UBL footage

And most Americans still get their "news" from these guys

Hence, PResident Hillary

Stupid = Dem victories

He's dead, he's blowing up daisies.

Have there been any verified appearances of Binny since Tora Bora? (I'm really asking, I have no clue). Wouldn't it be great for Al Qaeda to be able to show its "troops" that he's alive and have him give them a pep talk (unless he's barely alive somewhere and not fit for video).

And if he is dead, as seems to be the only logical conclusion, either by the hand of God or NATO, then what the heck is the Left whining about when they demand that George Bush go get him? Bush either knows that he is dead and isn't telling anyone or the Binmeister is buried under a pile of rocks somewhere.

We've discovered the left's alien. (Space aliens, not illegal.) They sooo hope and want to believe OBL is alive as they love him so.

Unfortunately, the government taxidermist signed a non-disclosure agreement under penalty of law.
Word has it, he's up on wall, in between a wild boar and cross-eyed goat.

Troofer site or not, the juxtaposition of OBL's face and the guy in the 2004 video is reminiscent of Charles and the Rather-gate memos.

What I have always found odd about the release of new tapes is this: OBL loved the camera. He was putting out a new release every other week. Until Tora Bora.

No new video, just grainy audio. And the double in the 2004 video does look suspect to me (how did he change the shape of his cheekbones and eyebrows?).

It has been reported that he needs a big, expensive, dialysis machine to stay alive and happens to have one somewhere in Pakistan. Why is it his followers can manage to get that and keep it maintained and supplied but cannot get a single unassailable vid or one CLEAR audiotape?

If he was not killed in Tora Bora, and I think he was, then he was so badly torn-up that no Mohammedan would follow him.

Biased Opinion: It seems to be an Eastern thing that their men will only follow strong (or presumed strong) leaders. In the Western tradition we praise men who are maimed beyond belief yet return to the front-line.

re: #153 eff plus

Sorry to go slightly OT here, but I have a question maybe someone here can answer because I’m no expert on Islam: It strikes me as odd (and possibly biased) that in news stories like the above, and just about every other one it seems, when the writer or anchor person refers to the actual historical figure Muhammad, they refer to him as “the Prophet Muhammad,” making it sound as if his being a “prophet” is an undisputed fact. I mean, at least in this AP story, they capitalized “Prophet” as if it was part of his name, but other sources I’ve seen don’t, and you can’t tell in broadcast media. And besides, his name wasn’t “The Prophet Muhammad” anyway, right? His name was just “Muhammad” and he claimed to be a “prophet,” isn’t that right? Or did he change his name at some point in his life and make it officially “The Prophet Muhammad”? (If he did, that’s a pretty shifty move.) I mean, when they report news that includes a reference to the actual historical figure Jesus Christ, they don’t say “the Savior Jesus Christ.”

So what do you think? Can there possibly be a rational justification for this? Or is this another example of Islamic propaganda creep?

You are so right - "the Savior Jesus Christ" is a phrase which these MSM creeps would find it impossible to mouth...

Just like MSM debates featuring a Liberal "expert" and a Conservative "spokesman" that have been duly noted more than once.

Unfortunately it is easy to fool the AP, they are fools already. They are not called The Alzheimer's Press for nothing you know.

He's Dead, Jim.
It is my contention that bin Laden the Ooze has been putrefying under the rocks of Tora Bora for these last 4 years or so.
I believe that the CIA or some other actual Intelligence Agency made the 1st bin Laden the Ooze tape to try and verify if he was dead or not. (How do you verify a smash of flesh buried under a gazillion tons of rock?) When the 1st tape was accepted, I believe that more tapes were produced by both sides in this War.
If you view or listen to the various tapes, many of them threaten and condemn those that might be friendly or at least neutral to the Ooze's goals of Islamic fascist Jihad, such as France or the citizens of Iraq.
One must conclude that, if the tapes were real, that the Ooze was purposely trying to alienate everyone and anyone a la Hitler or Stalin in their madness. As no one has ever claimed that bin Laden the Ooze was insane or a moron, it is not logical that he would make tapes threatening the very people who might look to support him in some fashion.
Ergo, the tapes are false and purposely made to lead Al Qaeda and other Islamo-fascists astray.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
:)

re: #168 Wayne Clark

re: #156 Dirk Diggler

I used to think Osama was dead too. Then he issued an endorsement of John Kerry in October 2004.

Basically, until we see pictures of Special Forces pissing on Osama's remains in the mountains of Waziristan, we must assume he's still alive.

Yep; he was at least alive in June 2006, because he was on an audio tape (reportedly authentic) talking about Zarqawi's death. Call me skeptical on claims of his death until it can be verified.

Audio tapes are easily, easily faked. Which would seem to lend credence to his demise as no video tapes have been released since before Tora Bora...

re: #190 harpsicon

Yeah, I mean my concern is that it seems like a lot of the advancement of islamofascism on the PR front seems to come from their just repeating lies over and over again (whether it’s about Israel or the myth that there’s such a thing as a “palestinian” or whatever) until the lies become so ubiquitous that people stop questioning them. Now we’ve actually got “serious” news people referring to a seventh century warlord and pedophile as having CLAIRVOYANT powers. Like, huh? Islamofascism must be battled in the war of language as well as militarily. If these newspeople were being objective it seems like they might say something more like “muhammad, a religious figure to muslims” or something like that

re: #195 eff plus

Rightly said, F+

Now just sidestep the mullahs and imams and let the Muslim masses know of the Coming of their Promised One, May 22/23, 1844 (1260 AH)

THAT will shake them up!

/Google the date, follow it from there...

The real question here isn't whether or not OBL has assumed room temperature, but whether or not the inclusion of the OBL footage constituted the go signal.

I really think they know he's dead. What's odd is the news services and all who make reference to them act as if no one doubts their word about the authenticity of these pathetic videos.

As for whether OBL is alive or dead, the case for him being dead becomes more and more compelling as time goes on.

Still...

I've always had a feeling that Osama tried to model himself after Hassan Sabah, the founder of the Assassins. As he aged, Sabah came to fear for his life, even as his power grew. So he spent the last nine years of his life in his house, emerging on only three occasions -- and those were to go up on the roof.

I think we should consider the possibility that Osama is hiding in the same manner.

I was living in London a few years ago when Hirohito died, and the headline in the staid Times (of London), was "Sayonara Hirohito, the jaws of hell await you."
I couldn't believe it--but boy did I get a good laugh. I can hardly wait to see the headline in the NEW YORK times when they find out that OBL's dead.

Yes Bin Laden might be dead but who was really the polarizing figure that captivated the worlds attention for so many years...

we will explore his happy childhood, the caring devotion of his many wives in 25 one hour puff pieces and the last 2 or 3 seconds on his terrorist actions...

join us now for ...

Osama Bin Laden - Behind the bomb belt

This is really quite awful news. I'd hoped to see him measured for a pigskin casket after a Saddam-style hanging sponsored by the U.S.

Pity.

I'll believe he's a live when I see an upclose shot of him buying an iPhone.

re: #153 eff plus

The Prophet of Doom

re: #203 So?

or using an iPhone

Wait.
Why are we even talking about this?
I thought Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11.
It was Lucifer's henchmen, Bush and Cheney.
Can't AP get its liberal story right?
It was an inside job.
My god, all the money Soros is paying these fools, and they still can't remember the story they are supposed to tell.

re: #200 katemaclaren

I was living in London a few years ago when Hirohito died, and the headline in the staid Times (of London), was "Sayonara Hirohito, the jaws of hell await you."
I couldn't believe it--but boy did I get a good laugh. I can hardly wait to see the headline in the NEW YORK times when they find out that OBL's dead.

NY Slimes headline

The Western MSM is a handmaiden to Islamic terrorists in carrying their messages at face value with nary a word of critical analysis, even the lamest claims like bin Laden's continued existence. This is our true problem, the leftist megaphone that distorts all news and public education/indoctrination system set up to boost all totalitarianisms.

Leftists are control freaks who are very comfortable with violence including genocide to gain that control and whose respectful admiration for the most reprehensible men such as Stalin, Mao, Che, and now bin Laden is shamelessly blatant. Why are half or more of Western populations not repelled by this lack of any moral sense?

“He’s dead Jim.”

re: #75 realwest

I've always thought bin Laden was killed in Tora Bora - if not outright, then from wounds he suffered there. But he's definitely dead. And I think he died in Tora Bora.
Indeed, to paraphrase President Bush, I think he's in a tunnel which no longer has any exits or entrances.

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I agree. He probably got it at Tora Bora.

OLB only lives on in Al Jazeera’s archives. They have an abundance of film from OBL with which to make many tapes.

As for the 2004 tape, I recall that the intelligence people could only verify that it probably was his voice – but not the date of him speaking. It could have been a clever cut and past job by al Jazeera.

Al Gore will probably praise them for recycling their videos.

re: #28 Drained Brain

Can't the CIA find out if he sent the newlyweds a goat or a set of beheading knives?

[Link: seattletimes.nwsource.com...]

More here:

[Link: hotair.com...]

liberal cia would not want to antagonize terrorists by releasing it.

OBL was known to have 4 wives and 14 children, the eldest son married to Mohammod Omar's daughter just prior to the invasion of Afghanistan.
If he or any of his progeny were still of this planet we would have heard loud and clear by now. 'Know them by their seed' which now is a fungus growing on the rocks at Tora Bora. As you sow so shall you reap-and OBL HAS SURELY BEEN REAPED!

In the ass.

I am Binladen, you are Binladen, he is Binladen. 6,602,224,175 Binladens.

Lizards, you continue to amaze me. This whole thread has been a fascinating read. Interesting, no trolls to meaningfullly rebut anything offered -- or did I miss something.

Great stuff guys and gals...

mongrel19

Osama Bin Rottin...

Is it possible that his appearance or his local would be a tip off?

I would love to think he is dead and being fed to the flames of hell for eternity!

They created a poll on the possibility that he is poppy-field fertilizer on SodaHead.

[Link: www.sodahead.com...]