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Hamas on Trial in Dallas - CAIR Official Refuses to Condemn Hamas

Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 8:15:55 am PDT

The government’s largest and most visible effort to prosecute Hamas financiers started yesterday in Dallas, as five former officials of the Holy Land Foundation Islamic “charity” go on trial: Hamas Goes ‘on Trial’ in Texas in Case Over Muslim Charity.

“This is Hamas on trial,” a longtime researcher into the American links of Middle Eastern terrorist groups, Steven Emerson, said yesterday. “I don’t think you can get a more significant material support case.”

The foundation, its chairman of the board, Ghassan Elashi, its secretary and CEO, Shukri Abu Baker, one of its top fund-raisers, Mufid Abdulqader, its director of endowments, Mohammed El-Mezain, and its New Jersey representative, Abdulraham Odeh, are charged with conspiring to aid a terrorist group, engaging in financial transactions with an embargoed group, money laundering, and other violations. Holy Land was shut down and had its assets frozen in 2001, but the criminal indictment was not returned until 2004.

In the Muslim community, many view the prosecution as driven by pro-Israel political forces and by a form of paranoia they call “Islamophobia.”

“The prosecution is trying to criminalize humanitarian aid,” the vice president of the Dallas chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Khalil Meek, said. “The Holy Land Foundation and its associates are not charged with any violence. They actually did feed, clothe, shelter, and provide medical support to humanitarian efforts all over the world.”

Prosecutors contend that $12.4 million raised by the foundation between 1995 and 2001 went to charitable committees in Gaza and the West Bank set up to receive tithing, or zakat, from Muslims. The prosecution alleges that the zakat committees were controlled by Hamas and sometimes singled out the families of Hamas “martyrs” for assistance.

“The government’s case is pretty strong in terms of ... deliberately providing annuities to the families of suicide bombers,” Mr. Emerson said.

Mr. Meek said the defendants are expected to argue that aiding orphans, no matter who their parents were, cannot amount to support for terrorism. “When you say, ‘They are accused of feeding the wrong children,’ that doesn’t resonate,” he said.

This is the trial in which CAIR has been named as an unindicted co-conspirator. And meanwhile, in the Dallas Morning News, Khalil Meek, vice president of CAIR, and Susan Abulhawa, founder of Playgrounds for Palestine, continue to deny that Hamas is a terrorist group: Point of Contact.

Is Hamas a terrorist organization?

Mr. Meek: I would support that conclusion because it was my government who did it [designated Hamas as a terrorist organization]. So I would say, yes, not by my knowledge but by their knowledge.

Ms. Abulhawa: Hamas, whether you agree with their tactics or not, is a resistance organization and, frankly, the terrorism inflicted on the Palestinian people from air, sea and land, and economic strangulation and so forth, home demolitions, the list goes on ad nauseam it doesn’t compare. It [Hamas violence] is not even a fraction of the [Israeli-inflicted] level of destruction. I don’t speak for CAIR. I speak for myself. Hamas has a lot of divisions and a lot of wings. As a Palestinian who really has observed on the ground the level of charitable work that they do the nonmilitary divisions it is really hard for me to say that that’s a terrorist organization.

Is the talk of al-Qaeda sleeper cells just fear-mongering? How should the government respond?

Mr. Meek: If the government wants to go after sleeper cells, let ‘em. Good job. Let’s support that effort. Let’s encourage them to find every sleeper cell, every terrorist on the planet. ... But let’s not have a rhetoric out there of fear, fear, fear. From what I hear, I wouldn’t get near a Muslim. If I weren’t a Muslim, I’d run like hell. I’d be afraid. But I am Muslim, and I’m like, there’s something weird about this. This ain’t right.

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1 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:17:44am

Lots of coverage here in the local Dallas media, including lots of spin from the defense lawyers.

2 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:18:22am

The usual "islamophobia" crap.

3 Logic Probe  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:18:28am

Think this'll be on CNN tonight?

4 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:18:37am

Of course they would deny hamas is a terrorist group because if they weren't there would be no case.

/other than poor wittle muslims getting picked on.

5 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:19:21am

They're heeeere......

6 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:19:39am

"Anonymous" uncovered the Holy Land Foundation link to terrorism years and years ago. Link, hell. The HLF is terrorism.

Sad that the wheels of justice turn so slowly that it is six-years post-911 before trial.

7 doppelganglander  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:19:57am

It's not a phobia if there's a genuine reason to be afraid.

8 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:20:40am
“The Holy Land Foundation and its associates are not charged with any violence. They actually did feed, clothe, shelter, and provide medical support to humanitarian efforts all over the world.”

Maybe so, but they were also funding terror attacks.

9 Aladin Sane  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:21:49am

Shouldn't taxfree get a hat-tip

re: #620 taxfreekiller

10 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:21:58am

re: #3 Logic Probe

Think this'll be on CNN tonight?

First word: Starts with 'f', four letters.
Second word: Starts with 'n', two letters.

11 Drained Brain  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:22:12am

Discussed here way back in 2001:

[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

12 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:22:22am

FINALLY.

the wheels of justice turn slowly but at least they are turning.

14 mahatma coat  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:24:32am

later boys and girls ...off to a funeral(removal actually)Always a good time in Ireland

15 paxnhymn  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:24:56am

ohh goody! i get to go to dallas this week and the circus is in town...

/you guessed it.

16 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:25:02am

Step 1: Insist you condemn terrorism, but only in the most general terms.

Step 2: Deny that terrorists that you support are terrorists.

We know the guys you support can't be terrorists, because you support them and you're peaceful. And we know you're peaceful because you don't support terrorism. /circular

17 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:26:32am
But I am Muslim, and I’m like, there’s something weird about this. This ain’t right.

Yeah- but that's islam for you.

18 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:26:38am

I think therefore I slam.

19 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:26:58am

It is easier to resist at the beginning than at the end.

Leonardo da Vinci
Italian engineer

20 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:28:37am
21 FQ Kafir  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:28:59am
there’s something weird about this. This ain’t right.

Ya' got that right, bub.

22 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:29:18am

Playgrounds for Palestine?

why is anyone giving money for playgrounds when the Palestinian people are obviously starving because the Israelis are using bombs not breasts (pun) in Gaza and the West Bank..

23 violingig  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:29:40am

What's not getting as much play in the media, expect for maybe WBAP and CBS11 are the two arrests made yesterday by the Arlington police and FBI of two Muslim women wearing camo. Here are the links.

[Link: cbs11tv.com...]
[Link: www.wbap.com...]

24 cpuller  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:29:48am
Ms. Abulhawa: Hamas, whether you agree with their tactics or not, is a resistance organization and, frankly, the terrorism inflicted on the Palestinian people from air, sea and land, and economic strangulation and so forth, home demolitions, the list goes on ad nauseam it doesn’t compare. It [Hamas violence] is not even a fraction of the [Israeli-inflicted] level of destruction. I don’t speak for CAIR. I speak for myself. Hamas has a lot of divisions and a lot of wings. As a Palestinian who really has observed on the ground the level of charitable work that they do the nonmilitary divisions it is really hard for me to say that that’s a terrorist organization.

Yes, this reminds me of an argument I had with a liberal about Hamas. "Hamas build hospitals, you know", said the liberal. "That makes them not a terroristic organization". My reply, "Yeah, and the Nazis built the Autobahn and built hospitals, too."

If you blow innocent people up with suicide bombs, you might be a terrorist.

25 WriterMom  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:29:59am
it is really hard for me to say that that's a terrorist organization.

I recall that the illustrious lizard buzzsawmonkey once pointed out that for as many WHOPPERS that these CAIR-heads tell, they actually are telling the truth when the talk about Hamas or Hizballah. They really can't, won't ever say that they are terrorists because in their minds-they are legitimate murderers of infidel worldwide. It is a very strange thing...

26 jimmytheclaw  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:30:12am

reporters on townsend press conference need slapped

27 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:30:13am
"It [Hamas violence] is not even a fraction of the [Israeli-inflicted] level of destruction. "

Knocking over a house equates to a suicide bombing with rat poisoned ball bearings?

28 Stinger McGraw  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:30:44am

Root 'em out, wipe 'em out or head 'em up an' move 'em out!

29 Infidelsalwayswin  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:30:47am

Dallas? The same Dallas where the Jews had Kennedy killed? Coincidence? I think not! Who stands to gain? Heat doesn't melt steel! Ron Paul 2008!

30 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:31:07am

re: #19 Ben Hur

Thanks for calling Leonardo an Engineer.

31 gymnast  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:31:10am

Being among the followers of Islam is akin to being among snakes in the grass, some of whom are indeed venomous and predatory.

32 WriterMom  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:31:19am

re: #23 violingig

Very weird. What means 'domestic partner' in this situation? Two religious Muslim lesbians?

33 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:31:22am

Hitler ended unemployment.

34 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:31:48am

re: #29 Infidelsalwayswin

Dallas? The same Dallas where the Jews had Kennedy killed? Coincidence? I think not! Who stands to gain? Heat doesn't melt steel! Ron Paul 2008!

The middle letters of Dallas spell alla.

Coincidence?

35 tfc3rid  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:31:58am

I read about this in the NY Sun... There seems to be some halfway decent coverage in that paper regarding this trial...

Of course, we'll all be made out to be a bunch of Zionist Islamophobes...

36 IowaInfidel  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:32:16am

OT:
Sorry about the OT, but I can't find the contact info to email this to Charles.

Galloway is suspended from Commons for allegedly taking money from Saddam Hussein.

37 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:32:17am

re: #23 violingig

What's not getting as much play in the media, expect for maybe WBAP and CBS11 are the two arrests made yesterday by the Arlington police and FBI of two Muslim women wearing camo. Here are the links.

[Link: cbs11tv.com...]
[Link: www.wbap.com...]

Yes, it was just the latest in the saga of these two ugly cows. Apparently one assaulted the other with a knife, and the house contained items that could be used in making bombs. Saw it on WFAA as well.

38 jimmytheclaw  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:32:22am

re: #10 Honorary Yooper

re: #3 Logic Probe

Think this'll be on CNN tonight?

First word: Starts with 'f', four letters.
Second word: Starts with 'n', two letters.

nuck fo

39 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:32:31am

re: #33 Ben Hur

And created the volkswagen, much-beloved car of the hippies.

40 violingig  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:32:53am

re: #32 WriterMom

I have not a clue. They both lived in the same house with their adult sons. Very creepy..

41 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:33:07am
From what I hear, I wouldn’t get near a Muslim. If I weren’t a Muslim, I’d run like hell. I’d be afraid. But I am Muslim, and I’m like, there’s something weird about this. This ain’t right.

...and because you are a Muslim, your head will probably not be severed from your body when the Islamofascists attack. See my head will probably roll down the street and odds are you won't do a thing about it but instead, you'll watch and condone murder in the name of Islam.

There is nothing weird about my above assertion, that's Islam for you!

Now something about THAT "ain't right"!

42 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:33:10am

From Dead Thread- speaking of Dallas....


re: #1142 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Are we talking Muslimahs who wear comfortable shoes? Who enjoy eating at the Y? WNBA fans?


re: #1086 NJDhockeyfan


Bizarre String Of Incidents Unfold After Standoff

(CBS) ARLINGTON, Tex. Texas police arrested a woman after a six-hour standoff Monday. Eleven hours later, the woman's domestic partner had also been arrested and the FBI, Lewisville and Arlington bomb squad units were one scene.
According to police, it all started just after midnight on the 1000 block of Wembley Road. That's where police say Aisha Abdul-Rahman Hamad lives with her domestic partner, Kimberly Asma Al-Homsi, and their two adult sons.

When police arrived, they immediately demanded neighbors to turn off their porch lights. They had seen an infrared beam coming from the women's house and were worried someone might have a night-vision scope on a gun.

During the standoff, police say Hamad fired a paintball gun at an officer.

Six hours later, police say it seemed as though Hamad would surrender peacefully. But instead, officers say she inexplicably charged at them and started fighting. That's when they used a stun gun to subdue Hamad and end the standoff.

Hamad was arrested on charges of aggravated assault and was sent to JPS to undergo psychiatric treatment. According to police, Hamad had also assaulted Al-Homsi with a knife.

After arresting Hamad, police came back to the house with a search warrant. They found lots of ammunition and "things used in other types of devices," said Stephen Lea with the Arlington Fire Department.

Two suspicious packages were also found inside the house. The Arlington bomb squad, using a robot, detonated both. The contents of the packages are undergoing analysis.

Police then turned their attention to Al-Homsi, who was dressed in Muslim robes and camouflage. She was arrested on an illegal weapons charge.

When asked to empty her pockets, large amounts of cash poured out. She gave her son a hug before entering police custody.

Neighbors say they have been suspicious of the two women for months.

"We don't let our girls out," said Bill Taylor, a resident of the neighborhood. "Coming in the front yard has become kind of a dangerous thing, or it seems to be. You just don’t know what's going to happen."

The women are no strangers to trouble with the law. In March, Dallas police questioned them after they were seen using binoculars to watch flights at Love Field.

The pair told officers they were watching the planes for entertainment. They also claimed they were victims of racial profiling.

At the time of the Love Field incident, Al-Homsi was on probation for making a terroristic threat. In December 2005, she waved a fake hand grenade at a motorist. A judge put her on probation for two years.


tring Of Incidents Unfold After Standoff
43 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:33:22am

re: #36 IowaInfidel

OT:
Sorry about the OT, but I can't find the contact info to email this to Charles.

Galloway is suspended from Commons for allegedly taking money from Saddam Hussein.

'Bout time!

44 paxnhymn  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:33:25am

re: #33 Ben Hur

Hitler ended unemployment.

LOL! he did it by thinning the ranks of the unemployed...

45 Infidelsalwayswin  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:33:40am

I refer to da Vinci as a vegetarian genius with ADD.

46 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:33:43am

re: #34 Silhouette

re: #29 Infidelsalwayswin

Dallas? The same Dallas where the Jews had Kennedy killed? Coincidence? I think not! Who stands to gain? Heat doesn't melt steel! Ron Paul 2008!

The middle letters of Dallas spell alla.

Coincidence?

We're through the looking glass here, people.

47 BabbaZee  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:34:10am

For the newbies and the lurking

Hamas Charter


Label Hamas


Shiek Palazzi on CAIR


Later Lizardia
WLGF out

48 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:34:11am

re: #30 Ojoe

You're welcome.

What did they call a "Photographic Memory" before the invention of the photograph?

49 wildcat84  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:34:13am

Somehow they will find ways to blame Bush and the Jooooos

50 jimmytheclaw  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:34:40am

re: #28 Stinger McGraw

Root 'em out, wipe 'em out or head 'em up an' move 'em out!

to the tune of rawhide

51 cpuller  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:35:52am

They need to hire Baghdad Bob as their spokesman.

52 opnion  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:36:12am

The strategy is always to play the Islamophobia card.
You hear it whenever they have spokespeople on the cable news shows or on the radio.
It always seems to be to ignore the issue of Islamic terrorism and turn it around to their own victim hood.
I do not want to see a violent type of backlash. I would point out that Americans after 9/11 were in the main very restrained particularly if you consider what the response would have been if the roles were reversed.
But we should not be influenced by sophomoric arguments that our concerns are unfounded and we have a right to expect groups here to not comfort a savage enemy that wants us converted or dead.

53 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:36:17am

re: #48 Ben Hur

I don't know.

54 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:36:43am

I could maybe accept a genuine resistance movement that targetted only the military. Maybe.


But suicide bombers wearing vests packed with rat poison and ball bearings, targetting civilians on the bus, and in restaurants, if that isn't terrorism, nothing is.

55 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:37:00am

OT:
The new NIE has been released, and fancy that - the findings are slightly different than earlier leaks had suggested.

We judge the US Homeland will face a persistent and evolving terrorist threat over the next three years. The main threat comes from Islamic terrorist groups and cells, especially al- Qa’ida, driven by their undiminished intent to attack the Homeland and a continued effort by these terrorist groups to adapt and improve their capabilities.

We assess that greatly increased worldwide counterterrorism efforts over the past five years have constrained the ability of al-Qa’ida to attack the US Homeland again and have led terrorist groups to perceive the Homeland as a harder target to strike than on 9/11. These
measures have helped disrupt known plots against the United States since 9/11.
%u2022 We are concerned, however, that this level of international cooperation may wane as 9/11 becomes a more distant memory and perceptions of the threat diverge. Al-Qa’ida is and will remain the most serious terrorist threat to the Homeland, as its central leadership continues to plan high-impact plots, while pushing others in extremist Sunni communities to mimic its efforts and to supplement its capabilities. We assess the group has protected or regenerated key elements of its Homeland attack capability, including: a
safehaven in the Pakistan Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), operational lieutenants, and its top leadership. Although we have discovered only a handful of individuals in the United States with ties to al-Qa’ida senior leadership since 9/11, we judge that al-Qa’ida will intensify its efforts to put operatives here.

So, worldwide efforts have greatly constrained al Qaeda's capabilities, but we're seeing AQ regroup in places like Warizistan in Pakistan and that AQ may be once again seeking to bring the war to the US mainland.

As they say, read the whole thing - which is all of seven pages.

56 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:37:13am

re: #42 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

They were also arrested after hanging out near the runways at DFW, and one of them is on probation for threatening another motorist in Richardson with an (inert) hand grenade durng a road rage incident.

Nutjobs.

57 Phocid  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:37:13am

Muslims are always trying to blur the definition of 'terrorism' to make it look like any act of war, self-defense or police protection is terrorism. Look at the results: in Palestine the 'resistance' (terrorism) against Israel has done nothing but bring misery and death to the Palestinians. Israel's reasonable self-defense (what the Palis like to call terrorism) has made Israel safer and mitigated civilian casualties. Moral valuations have to be made in the light of both intended and actual results.

58 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:37:31am

re: #53 Ojoe


Neither do I.

59 Clio  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:37:33am

CAIR will not call Hamas a "terrorist organization"

Neither will Madam Dr. Secretary Condeleeza Rice.

Indeed, she uses "resistance organization" as does the Playground Lady.

Maybe they share a see-saw.

60 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:37:50am

GOOD NEWS

Stupid OSHA law trying to make it impossible for gun shops to carry any decent amount of ammunition fails.

I cant link to it but its
NRA-ILA_Alerts

Yippee.

61 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:38:28am

re: #58 Ben Hur

Canaletto was a camera before film though.

62 Sponge  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:39:16am
But let’s not have a rhetoric out there of fear, fear, fear. From what I hear, I wouldn’t get near a Muslim. If I weren’t a Muslim, I’d run like hell. I’d be afraid. But I am Muslim, and I’m like, there’s something weird about this. This ain’t right.


Gee, I don't know. Maybe denounce the suicide missions coming from your religion and STOP TRYING TO KILL EVERYONE and maybe that outlook on muslham would change. You won't, it won't and I'm sure we won't either, so you're screwed, asshat.

63 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:39:32am

re: #48 Ben Hur


Elephantine Memory?

64 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:39:58am

Before the camera was invented, they still called it a photographic memory.

But nobody knew what it meant.

65 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:41:06am

re: #64 Silhouette

Then there's the sliced bread question.

Off to work, probably just as well.

66 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:41:09am
67 Idle Drifter  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:41:10am

re: #7 doppelganglander


Seconded on the basis that flying civilian airlines into buildings, car bombs, truck bombs, club bombings, snipers, and continual threats against America and her allies Israel, Britain, and Australia constitutes rational concern and disproportionate response. I don't use fear because it draws random actions including witch hunts and paralysis or in other words, lack of action.

CAIR and company can mix messages all they want but we know the facts aren't lost in translation.

68 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:41:44am

re: #61 Ojoe

Full disclosure:

Had to Google Canaletto.

69 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:42:17am

re: #60 Eowyn2

GOOD NEWS

Stupid OSHA law trying to make it impossible for gun shops to carry any decent amount of ammunition fails.

I cant link to it but its
NRA-ILA_Alerts

Yippee.

That's great news (and I don't even own a gun).

70 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:43:15am

Moving on to next thre....

71 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:43:28am

re: #48 Ben Hur

re: #30 Ojoe

You're welcome.

What did they call a "Photographic Memory" before the invention of the photograph?

I once knew a girl who claimed to have a "photogenic" memory.

72 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:43:53am

I think it's only a matter of time before CAIR leadership is indicted and prosecuted for aiding terrorists.

73 stashiu  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:44:14am

Hamas as a 'resistance organization'?

Yeah right. Resistant to moving out of the dark ages; resistant to treating everyone equally; resistant to seeing their own children growing up; resistant to anyone not muslim; resistant to muslims that aren't 'muslim' enough; etc; etc; etc.

74 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:44:51am

re: #71 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #48 Ben Hur


re: #30 Ojoe

You're welcome.

What did they call a "Photographic Memory" before the invention of the photograph?


I once knew a girl who claimed to have a "photogenic" memory.

I have a pornographic memory - I can't remember a f-cking thing.

75 Drained Brain  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:45:30am

re: #52 opnion

The strategy is always to play the Islamophobia card.
You hear it whenever they have spokespeople on the cable news shows or on the radio
.

But of course!

There's a CAIR-sponsored "panel discussion" about Islamophobia among conservatives right now at the National Press Club.

[Link: powerlineblog.com...]

76 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:46:07am

re: #37 Ward Cleaver

re: #23 violingig


What's not getting as much play in the media, expect for maybe WBAP and CBS11 are the two arrests made yesterday by the Arlington police and FBI of two Muslim women wearing camo. Here are the links.

[Link: cbs11tv.com...]
[Link: www.wbap.com...]


Yes, it was just the latest in the saga of these two ugly cows. Apparently one assaulted the other with a knife, and the house contained items that could be used in making bombs. Saw it on WFAA as well.

I saw your post and immediately wondered if it was the crazy lady from Arlington who had been seen at the airport a few months ago. Apparently she's a known quantity around here, having been arrested for threatening somebody on the road with a dummy hand grenade a year or two ago.

Sure enough, it's the same lady, AND her girlfriend this time:

The women are no strangers to trouble with the law. In March, Dallas police questioned them after they were seen using binoculars to watch flights at Love Field.

The pair told officers they were watching the planes for entertainment. They also claimed they were victims of racial profiling.

77 lockandload  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:47:18am

If we keep having to deal with these people in the U.S. , do you think Hildabeasts new programs will issue bomb sniffing dogs to each of us?

78 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:47:54am

re: #76 Pawn of the Oppressor

re: #37 Ward Cleaver

re: #23 violingig


What's not getting as much play in the media, expect for maybe WBAP and CBS11 are the two arrests made yesterday by the Arlington police and FBI of two Muslim women wearing camo. Here are the links.[Link: cbs11tv.com...]
[Link: www.wbap.com...]


Yes, it was just the latest in the saga of these two ugly cows. Apparently one assaulted the other with a knife, and the house contained items that could be used in making bombs. Saw it on WFAA as well.

I saw your post and immediately wondered if it was the crazy lady from Arlington who had been seen at the airport a few months ago. Apparently she's a known quantity around here, having been arrested for threatening somebody on the road with a dummy hand grenade a year or two ago.

Sure enough, it's the same lady, AND her girlfriend this time:


The women are no strangers to trouble with the law. In March, Dallas police questioned them after they were seen using binoculars to watch flights at Love Field. The pair told officers they were watching the planes for entertainment. They also claimed they were victims of racial profiling.

These two should get their own COPS spin-off.

79 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:48:42am

re: #69 Ward Cleaver

From what I'm reading, the OSHA rule under comment is going back for revision. I used to bump heads with inspectors all the time over zombie rules that were under comment, never adopted, yet would never die. The point is: don't get frisky. This thing could pop up again. To quote the great Raymond Burr, "What makes you think Godzilla is dead?"

80 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:50:38am

re: #72 Ward Cleaver

I hope you're right.

81 EE  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:51:58am

re: #54 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I could maybe accept a genuine resistance movement that targetted only the military. Maybe.


But suicide bombers wearing vests packed with rat poison and ball bearings, targetting civilians on the bus, and in restaurants, if that isn't terrorism, nothing is.

You are absolutely right.

82 peck  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:51:58am

re: #72 Ward Cleaver
So, what do you get for that? 45 day suspended sentence and 8 hours of commmunity service? Sounds too harsh for the ROP.

83 Carl B  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:52:33am

re: #24 cpuller

If you blow innocent people up with suicide bombs, you might be a terrorist.

Might be a terrorist?!

84 perkypauly  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:54:32am

re: #6 Silhouette

The "wheels of justice" lose there traction on an oil slicked road---and furthermore our so called leaders are blinded by the oil in their eyes

85 Carl B  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:57:46am
From what I hear, I wouldn’t get near a Muslim. If I weren’t a Muslim, I’d run like hell. I’d be afraid.

Probably the first time I have ever agreed with one of these guys!

86 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 8:58:26am
87 so.cal.swede  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:01:02am
If I weren’t a Muslim, I’d run like hell. I’d be afraid.

Veiled threat anyone? Or did I quote out of context again?

88 paxnhymn  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:05:58am

re: #56 Ward Cleaver

re: #42 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

They were also arrested after hanging out near the runways at DFW, and one of them is on probation for threatening another motorist in Richardson with an (inert) hand grenade durng a road rage incident.

Nutjobs.

errrr...maybe I'll take the bus to Dallas this week...

89 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:06:14am

These people continue to disgust me more everyday. Sorry WeaselZippers, but they're, well....evil weasels.

90 mean Gene  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:07:13am

Isn't it refreshing.
They didn't out-and-out lie about it.

Mr. Meek said the defendants are expected to argue that aiding orphans, no matter who their parents were, cannot amount to support for terrorism. “When you say, ‘They are accused of feeding the wrong children,’ that doesn’t resonate,” he said.

Resonate?
Resonate with whom?
And, if that's the case, why bother with the "hamas has a lot of wings," bs?
Everybody (certainly those who donate) knows that, when you give to Hamas some of it is going to help each of those little "wings."

91 cpuller  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:11:34am
re: #24 cpuller

If you blow innocent people up with suicide bombs, you might be a terrorist.

Might be a terrorist?!

It's a play off that comic. Of course they are or were.

92 Sceptic Tank  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:14:11am

I am curious to see just what is left in the American Courts, in this case Texas, land of steers and queers, and President Open Borders.

In NYC lawyer Lynn Stewart was found guilty of passing "messages" to Sheik Abdel Rahman. The Jury worked hard and long and came up with a just verdict in liberal NY. The Judge then thanked Ms. Stewart for her fine service to the community.

93 bulwrk  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:21:04am

They actually did feed, clothe, shelter, and provide medical support to humanitarian terrorist efforts all over the world.”

94 Jimash  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:38:23am

Hamas' social work reminds me of John Gotti's legendary largesse.

95 mike_trivisonno  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:50:06am

re: #40 violingig

They should search the house and surrounding area for aborted fetuses.

96 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:52:41am
This ain’t right.

Bingo (was his name-oh).

97 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:54:14am

Hamas is an Arabic word that translates into English as: Terror Front Organization.

98 B_Dix  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 9:57:54am

#42 Ed Mahmoud's...

" ... police came back to the house with a search warrant. They found lots of ammunition and "things used in other types of devices," said Stephen Lea ..."
----------------------------
OMIGAWD! Iowahawk warned about this:
[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

in his article "UK Warning: Look Out For People Doing Things":
"London and Glasgow narrowly escaped potential events that intelligence experts say may have been related to diverse groups of people doing things." "Scotland Yard had set up special telephone and internet hotlines for citizens to report tips of possible activities by other people." His article also stated that vigilant citizens are "our best hope for thwarting these diverse groups of people from various countries and backgrounds and occupations who are engaged in, or potentially planning activities of some sort." AND NOW WE NEED TO LOOK OUT FOR "THINGS USED IN OTHER TYPES OF DEVICES", TOO! Sound the alarm!

99 B_Dix  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 10:01:18am

#48 ben hur

"What did they call a "Photographic Memory" before the invention of the photograph?"

-------------------------------------------------- ------------

eidetic

[Link: serendip.brynmawr.edu...]

100 filetandrelease  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 10:26:44am

re: #48 Ben Hur

re: #30 Ojoe

You're welcome.

What did they call a "Photographic Memory" before the invention of the photograph?


Memory like a paint brush?

101 wrathofasma  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 10:48:16am

Why is this organization still relevant. Their membership is down, and more and more people are finding out about their dubious origins. So why the hell are they still relevant as a voice of the American Muslim community?

Now this article is OT but really important: A textbook example of religiously sanctioned deception, courtesy of the Saudis.

102 Canadian Infidel  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 12:26:01pm

Charles, if we have a story for you, how do we submit it? The form box isn't appearing on the page.

103 Canadian Infidel  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 12:26:26pm

Or if anyone else knows.

104 Ezekiel2517  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 2:34:24pm

Everybody talks about the global jihad, but nobody does anything about it.

105 jenv  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 2:37:22pm

re: #8 Ward Cleaver

Maybe so, but they were also funding terror attacks.


It doesn't matter if they were directly funding terror attacks. Money is fungible. Money Hamas operatives don't have to spend supporting their families is money they can spend on weapons and training.

106 Jay777  Tue, Jul 17, 2007 5:12:53pm
107 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Jul 18, 2007 9:03:54pm

Lemme See-

"Run Like Hell", eh? - My recollection puts that tune into the Pink Floyd album "THE WALL" circa 1979, Mr. Meek.
The New Testament states that THE MEEK shall inherit the earth.
Does this include you or NOT, Mr. Meek - Your Call.

-S-

108 spikester  Wed, Jul 18, 2007 10:00:52pm

Lite on the sauce. almost over done


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