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Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 7:06:39 am PDT

House Democrats are trying to block a provision in a homeland security bill that would protect the public from being sued by the likes of CAIR if they report suspicious behavior: Democrats want ‘John Doe’ provision cut.

The legislation, which moves to a House and Senate conference committee this afternoon, will implement final recommendations from the 911 Commission.

Rep. Pete King, New York Republican and ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee, and Rep. Steve Pearce, New Mexico Republican, sponsored the bill after a group of Muslim imams filed a lawsuit against U.S. Airways and unknown or “John Doe” passengers after they were removed for suspicious behavior aboard Flight 300 from Minneapolis to Phoenix on Nov. 20 before their removal.

“Democrats are trying to find any technical excuse to keep immunity out of the language of the bill to protect citizens, who in good faith, report suspicious activity to police or law enforcement,” Mr. King said in an interview last night. “This is a slap in the face of good citizens who do their patriotic duty and come forward, and it caves in to radical Islamists,” Mr. King said.

“I don’t see how you can have a homeland security bill without protecting people who come forward to report suspicious activity,” Mr. King said.

Republicans aides say they will put up a fight with Democrats when the conference committee begins at 1 p.m., to reinsert the language, but that public pressure is also needed.

UPDATE at 7/19/07 7:45:52 am:

More on this outrage, from Andy McCarthy at The Corner: Flying Imams — Are Democrats Trying to Sink Pete King’s Amendment?

The House-adopted King language ensures that any person who voluntarily reports suspicious activity in good faith-anything that could be a threat to transportation security-will be granted immunity from civil liability for the disclosure. The amendment is specific to threats to transportation systems, passenger safety or security, or possible acts of terrorism, and also shields transportation systems and employees that take reasonable actions to mitigate perceived threats. The amendment is also retroactive to activities that took place on or after November 20, 2006 - the date of the Minneapolis incident.

I am reliably informed that House Democrats are attempting, under the radar screen, to strip the King Amendment from the legislation based on an alleged technical violation of Byzantine House rules.

As Pete King’s office notes, in a post-9/11 reality, passenger vigilance is essential to our security. Given the variety of threats we face and terrorists’ history of targeting mass transit systems, encouraging passengers to report strange behavior to authorities is really just common sense. Failing to report suspicious behavior could end up costing thousands of lives — and while the “flying imams” don’t seem to understand this, the American people do. We must make certain that brave citizens who stand up and say something are given the protections they deserve. The King amendment does exactly that, and Democrats musn’t be allowed to strip it from the 9/11 conference report on a technicality.

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1 the_moll  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:08:30am

Time to crash the phone systems again.

2 Kirly  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:09:44am

This is the absolute worst possiblity! My congress critter is on board. Call yours and make sure they are too! Otherwise, you'll be sitting there weighing the options of reporting suspicious behaviour against getting sued! I know most of us would risk it but people shouldn't be put in this position!

3 400lb Gorilla  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:10:29am

I wish I could say I was shocked and disappointed.
However this is just more of the same old same old the Dems and some Repubs want to feed us

4 Jimmy The Clam  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:11:40am

Who's on that conference committee?
We need to know who to hammer on.

5 daughter of patriots  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:11:40am

Some animals (CAIR) are more equal than others?

6 ROPMA  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:11:44am

SOS = same old sh**

7 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:12:54am

re: #5 daughter of patriots

Some animals (CAIR) are more equal than others?

Or maybe the far left bloggers...

8 carridine  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:13:12am

"Bend over, grab your Republican and Plebian ankles, and enjoy it!" said Democrats...

9 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:13:15am

[self-deleted]

10 dimestorenovel  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:13:41am

I don't understand. Why would they block this provision? What is the motivation - where is the logic? Maybe I don't understand American politics.

11 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:13:46am
12 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:14:36am
House Democrats are trying to block a provision in a homeland security bill that would protect the public from being sued by the likes of CAIR if they report suspicious behavior

Motherfuckers.

/Sorry for the language. Eloquence escapes me this AM.

13 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:14:52am

#11 taxfreekiller

Old Kings and the A.C.L.U. must die.

Shakespeare told us what had to happen first.

14 TimeQuake  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:15:25am

Demoncrats.

15 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:15:54am

I'll report you whatever I see fit. Go ahead, try to sue me.

16 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:16:24am

The Dem position is ridiculous and dangerous. Are we also going to do away with all the anonymous tipster phone lines in use by police departments?

I have had reason to appreciate Pete King before; maybe we Texas could swap Sheila Jackson Lee to New York for him. Kind of a moonbat POW exchange.

OldLineTexan

17 tskier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:16:58am

#10 You don't need a motive when you are rabidly insane with hatred.

18 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:17:50am

re: #17 tskier

#10 You don't need a motive when you are rabidly insane with hatred.

Nomination for rotating title.

OldLineTexan

19 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:18:14am

They've finally made it to outright siding against Americans who don't want to get blown up. Amazing.

I wonder if my congresscritter is on this committee.

20 hugh_mon  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:18:17am

Demorats would like to welcome our muslim overlords...

21 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:18:58am

Someone somewhere is pushing for this to be dropped. I would sure like to know who they are. My suspicion is the CAIR bears, but I am in doubt if they have much pull left in DC anymore.

22 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:19:03am

This is great! Make sure this gets advertised to John Q. Public, Dimocrat or Republican. COME ON DIMS! SCREAM A LITTLE LOUDER FOR CAIR!

I guarantee you this is a losing proposition for the Dims and will cost them big time if the word gets advertised.

23 400lb Gorilla  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:19:05am

Things will only get better in this country when our government likes its voters as much as it likes CAIR and the Islamists.

Apologies to Golda

24 ShanghaiRay  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:20:25am

Ok, guys. This is important legislation that needs to be passed but...for anyone hesitating to report suspicious activity remember, you might not have to worry about being sued if you are dead, the choice is yours.

25 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:20:36am

Flying Imams -- Are Democrats Trying to Sink Pete King's Amendment?

I am reliably informed that House Democrats are attempting, under the radar screen, to strip the King Amendment from the legislation based on an alleged technical violation of Byzantine House rules.

26 Iron Fist[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:20:49am
27 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:21:51am

re: #20 hugh_mon

Demorats would like to welcome our muslim overlords...

It's going to be difficult for the Muslim overlords, since both parties are hastening to give the country away to Mexico first.

I don't think the illegals I have met (overwhelmingly Catholic) are going to prove socially "liberal" enough to make good dhimmis.

If we end up completely sold out by our government, and it comes down to CAIR and their ilk and Mexico, I will side with Mexico. The fod's better, the women are prettier, and they have beer.

OldLineTexan

28 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:22:00am

re: #24 ShanghaiRay

you might not have to worry about being sued if you are dead,

Erk!

Yep, that makes so much sense. Very well put.

29 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:22:10am

I don't even have to call my House member (Ralph Hall), so you guys who have Dem reps need to call and lean on them. Hard.

30 xtraBilly  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:22:30am

Does this mean that Latham, Massachusetts' "Good Samaritan Law" will be repealed too?

31 ShanghaiRay  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:23:01am

and...I hope you can look yourself in a mirror if you don't report suspicious behavior and something major happens that kills a lot of people, I mean, if you are alive that is.

32 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:23:04am

re: #27 OldLineTexan

"food's better".

OLT

33 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:23:47am

re: #29 Ward Cleaver

I'm trying, Ward. The trouble being, I'm saddled with Mike Honda; he votes exactly the same as Pete Stark, he's just not as nasty.

34 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:23:50am

Again the Dems try to sell out the American people while fellating the enemy. If the Dems aren't evil, no one is.

35 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:26:00am

The Democrats know full well that, if they want to take over the whole ball of wax in 2008, that Bush must be completely discredited (even more so than Bush is doing to himself). The war in Iraq must be a complete failure, and must be blamed on Bush. The genocide that they know full well will be caused by their withdrawal? Bush's fault.

Furthermore, they need to destroy the idea that Bush has kept us safe at home, the Republicans can be trusted more than Democrats with national security (which has been a truism for longer than most of us have been alive). They need another terrorist attack on US soil. Let me repeat that: The democrats want, need, crave, and are working to enable, another terrorist attack on US soil.

Nothing else fits the evidence.

As has been said before, if they were just stupid, or acting at random, then sometimes they would do the right thing. But no- the only explanation for the fact that they are continually on the side of our enemies is pure premeditated malice towards you, me, and our entire country.

And if you think this is strong- just imagine what I wanted to say, but self-deleted, in #9.

36 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:26:08am

Al-Qaeda in Iraq Detainee Details Ties to Bin Laden

The man responsible for ferrying messages between Osama bin Laden and Iraqi insurgents is in U.S. custody and is providing "significant insights" into the workings of al-Qaeda in Iraq. Brig. Gen. Kevin J. Bergner, the top American military spokesman in Iraq, said Wednesday that the July 4 capture of Khalid al-Mashhadani has yielded evidence of the relationship between bin Laden's al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda in Iraq. "There is a flow of strategic direction, of prioritization, of messaging and other guidance that comes from al-Qaeda senior leadership to the al-Qaeda in Iraq leadership," Bergner said.
"The rank-and-file Iraqis in AQI [al-Qaeda in Iraq] believe they are following the Iraqi al-Baghdadi. But all the while they have been following the orders of the Egyptian Abu Ayyub al-Masri," Bergner said. Bergner said that Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, described in insurgent statements as leader of the Islamic State of Iraq, was a fictional creation of Masri. (Washington Post)

Sshhh...Don't tell the dems.

37 easy  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:26:08am

They say their objection is to be due to a fear of racial profiling. I think it is more due to their marriage to tort lawyers.

38 jonturner  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:26:12am
Democrats Want CAIR TERRORISTS to Be Able to Sue Kill You

There. Fixed it for you.

39 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:27:00am

House Homeland Security Committee

Who's the chairmen? Dhimmi Bennie F-cking Thompson.

40 Carolina Girl  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:27:06am

re: #1 the_moll

Time to crash the phone systems again.

They didn't learn a damn thing from our reaction to the Shamnesty Bill, did they. I guess we have to show them who's boss once again...

41 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:27:33am

The epic narcissism of Cindy Sheehan

Even the American left's netroots are getting tired of Cindy Sheehan. It's a shame it took them so long.

Sheehan, the epic narcissist who became the face of the anti-war movement, has been banned from posting any further entries on Daily Kos, arguably the most influential of all liberal blogs in the US.

42 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:28:16am

Just when one thinks the Dems can't sink any lower, they find a way...

43 psaturn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:29:15am

This is INCREDIBLE!

Anyone came up with an explanation for that kind of position?

44 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:29:19am

Conveniently, the HHSC Web site only lists the Dem ("Majority") members (thanks Bennie!). You have to click out to get to the GOP members' site.

45 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:29:24am

i love peter king.

46 Hugh_Mon  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:29:34am

#27 OldLineTexan

I suspect that Mexico is their favorite port of entry.

47 Carolina Girl  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:29:42am

re: #33 Dianna

re: #29 Ward Cleaver

I'm trying, Ward. The trouble being, I'm saddled with Mike Honda; he votes exactly the same as Pete Stark, he's just not as nasty.

I have that nut job Ellen Tauscher, who's had her district drawn in such a way to exclude Travis AFB and include Lafayette.

48 nyexpat  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:29:50am

I remember when this was first introduced, someone like John F Murtha was couching it in civil rights terms, saying that people should be able to protect themselves from malicious accusation, or some such. The reasoning was as Idiotic as anything I have seen from the left; I suspect that the reason it faces any real opposition is because President Bush favors it(that and the fact that to many democratic Congressmen our police forces are indistinguishable from Gestapo storm troopers)!

49 ShanghaiRay  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:29:54am

The Dems always say they are doing these things for the good of the country. The question is, which country?

50 Son Of The Godfather  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:30:02am

I'd question their patriotism (again)... but I might get sued.

51 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:30:03am

re: #41 Ben Hur

The epic narcissism of Cindy Sheehan


Even the American left's netroots are getting tired of Cindy Sheehan. It's a shame it took them so long.

Sheehan, the epic narcissist who became the face of the anti-war movement, has been banned from posting any further entries on Daily Kos, arguably the most influential of all liberal blogs in the US.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hilarious!

52 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:30:47am

re: #49 ShanghaiRay

The Dems always say they are doing these things for the good of the country. The question is, which country?

Iran.

53 ointmentfly  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:31:10am

Democrats have their eye on one thing - '08. CAIR controls the votes of a large muslim minority and we all know they are more interested in votes than security.

54 Carolina Girl  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:32:51am

re: #35 JamesTKirk

The Democrats know full well that, if they want to take over the whole ball of wax in 2008, that Bush must be completely discredited (even more so than Bush is doing to himself). The war in Iraq must be a complete failure, and must be blamed on Bush. The genocide that they know full well will be caused by their withdrawal? Bush's fault.

Furthermore, they need to destroy the idea that Bush has kept us safe at home, the Republicans can be trusted more than Democrats with national security (which has been a truism for longer than most of us have been alive). They need another terrorist attack on US soil. Let me repeat that: The democrats want, need, crave, and are working to enable, another terrorist attack on US soil.

Nothing else fits the evidence.

As has been said before, if they were just stupid, or acting at random, then sometimes they would do the right thing. But no- the only explanation for the fact that they are continually on the side of our enemies is pure premeditated malice towards you, me, and our entire country.

And if you think this is strong- just imagine what I wanted to say, but self-deleted, in #9.

Captain, Congress is going to have a serious problem there, hee hee. They are polling (Zogby's latest) at 14% approval and Bush is up to 34%. I'm thanking God that America's finding her backbone again and holding these Democrats turncoats' feet to the fire.

55 ROPMA  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:33:05am

I am convinced that the demi-rats subconsciously want another attack so they have something else to blame on Bush.

I don't have an OPEN MIND.

56 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:33:27am

#53 ointmentfly

Democrats have their eye on one thing - '08. CAIR controls the votes of a large muslim minority...

Only according to CAIR.

57 ShanghaiRay  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:33:37am

#53

Sorry I disagree. I don't think there is a very large Muslim minority in the USA. That's just spin to get us infidels all scared of the big bad Muslims. And care's control is probably no larger than the 2000 or less members they have. Hell bells, I can drum up that much support from my bowling league.

58 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:33:56am

re: #53 ointmentfly

Democrats have their eye on one thing - '08. CAIR controls the votes of a large muslim minority and we all know they are more interested in votes than security.

So they can democratically take over the U.S.

59 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:34:00am

Dems: Standing up for the little people.

Except when the little people dare to try to take part.

60 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:34:09am

re: #35 JamesTKirk

They need another terrorist attack on US soil.

Your correct. In the twisted mind of the Democrat another attack on the US is the only way to prove that the Republicans can't keep us safe. So that's what they're hoping for.

61 daughter of patriots  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:34:14am

The Dems are shooting themselves in the foot. You'd think this is the last straw...but no. Just wait till they push for impeachment. In time of war.

62 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:34:45am

re: #46 Hugh_Mon

#27 OldLineTexan

I suspect that Mexico is their favorite port of entry.

When they make the mistake of attacking Mexico/Aztlan, they will find themselves in a racial and religious war. The Aztlan racists are just as bad as the Islamist racists.

OldLineTexan

63 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:35:07am

re: #39 Ward Cleaver

The only hope for that committee is Jane Harman.

Did you notice that Sheila Jackson Lee is on it? What did they do, go out and select the congress members most likely to oppose anything even remotely resembling actual security legislation?

64 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:35:22am

#55 ROPMA

I am convinced that the demi-rats subconsciously want another attack so they have something else to blame on Bush.

I do not believe, in all cases, that it is subconscious.

65 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:35:49am

re: #57 ShanghaiRay

#53

Sorry I disagree. I don't think there is a very large Muslim minority in the USA. That's just spin to get us infidels all scared of the big bad Muslims. And care's control is probably no larger than the 2000 or less members they have. Hell bells, I can drum up that much support from my bowling league.

Realistically, there's no way to tell how many RoPers would vote CAIR's way. It's a matter of how many radicalized muslims there are versus "don't care" muslims.

66 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:36:47am

I don't think their doing this because they want us attacked again.

I think it is just a knee-jerk reaction to "If the GOP is for it, I oppose" combined with the PC mindset that They Alone are warriors in the fight against "racism", which would of course be the motivation for every report of suspicious behaviour.

67 Joan Not of Arc  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:36:47am

If the Democrats want to be responsible for the inevitable, let them. Then people will remember why they were voted out in the first place.
I don't want it to come to that but who am I to stop those on a path to their own destruction?

68 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:37:04am

re: #47 Carolina Girl

Tauscher's marginally more sane than any congresssional rep I've had in the last...oh, never mind! Ever! By the time I was old enough to vote, I was in San Francisco.

'Nuff said.

69 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:37:07am

#59 Silhouette

Dems: Standing up for on the little people.

Fixed that for you.

70 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:37:36am

So is this for all crimes reported, or do the terrorists just want special treatment?

71 IrishEi  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:37:53am

This amendment passed the House by a nearly 3:1 margin! They make me sick. Rumor is they will ditch the amendment in committee because they are beholden to CAIR and lawyers.

Lizard Army: do what must be done!

Nancy Pelosi’s office: 202-225-4965
Congressional switchboard: 202-224-3121

72 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:38:15am

re: #63 Dianna

Did you notice that Sheila Jackson Lee is on it? What did they do, go out and select the congress members most likely to oppose anything even remotely resembling actual security legislation?

See #35.

73 Yank in the EU  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:38:29am

On the one hand, citizens' reporting on activities that see to be terrorist / jihad related is basic to saving our lives.

On the other hand, there is a concern, mainly by liberal Dems, that these reports will be used against Muslims.

The Dems' solution -- to make the people suspected of being radical Islamic terrorists able to sue the reporting citizens -- is simply ridiculous and very reckless. What a backwards way to deal with the dilemma... a kind of stupidity which can only come from an ideological source and a mentality that thinks evil can be dealt with by legislation and concern for social justice.

We must let the police and Feds investigate claims and let individual authorities make on the spot judgments about the substantiality of citizens' reports. If there is nothing to the people's fears or reports, have a nice day and end of story. But allowing those suspected of terrorism to sue the reporting citizens, regardless of the motive - genuine of malicious - seriously compromises the safety of our nation against terrorism.

The Democrats undoubtedly choose the side of suspected Islamic terrorists, probably as good liberals viewing them as victims of "racism," while severely endangering all of our security against terrorism.

74 ShanghaiRay  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:38:32am

#65

Good point. But are Muslim women "allowed" to vote in their own culture even in the USA, without getting beaten or killed...yeah, maybe in the case where they can replace the present adminstration with a defacto Muslim puppet government.

75 Carolina Girl  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:38:35am

re: #70 NoSubmission

So is this for all crimes reported, or do the terrorists just want special treatment?

Dumbocrats always look out for their friends, don't they?

76 daughter of patriots  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:38:38am
77 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:38:40am

I feel ill. This is the most deplorable thing the democrats have tried yet. We've got koslings suggesting we rely on Blind Luck on the one hand, and on the other the democrats (think koslings with power) are trying to gag Luck, while the msm is not bothering to inform Luck of jack sh*t. So you have to ask- what good is Luck?

78 Carolina Girl  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:39:44am

We'll kill it in the Senate.

79 Yank in the EU  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:39:45am

#73 pimf: "seem"

80 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:39:49am

re: #60 DesertSage

It won't prove a thing to me. I've always known it's a matter of when, not if, and I work in a big, fat, soft target.

I tend to play Bad Moon Rising a lot.

81 Jeff_McAwesome  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:39:59am

re: #76 daughter of patriots

We weren't.

82 ointmentfly  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:40:26am

re: #57 ShanghaiRay

Whether it is a large minority or not, any minority group with an interest is needed by the dems to win in '08. They do not have a solid base. Just watching them tiptoe through their own mindfield of stances is evidence of this.

I don't believe the CAIR membership numbers either, but hopeful democrats do.

83 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:40:29am

Fred stinks...
NYT: Billing records show Fred did lobby for abortion group

What on earth was Mark Corallo thinking when he told the LA Times no way nuh uh never happened when he didn’t know that for a fact? Did the campaign even think to check the billing records?

I know politicians lie and I have no problem with lobbying for a pro-abortion group but this only confirms my suspicions about Fred. He's a hollow suit with nothing more than charm to offer.

84 Carolina Girl  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:41:10am

re: #80 Dianna

re: #60 DesertSage

It won't prove a thing to me. I've always known it's a matter of when, not if, and I work in a big, fat, soft target.

I tend to play Bad Moon Rising a lot.

I'm playing Steely Dan, m'self.

85 Jeff_McAwesome  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:41:11am

re: #83 Killgore Trout

So you're saying the NYT accomplished its goal?

86 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:41:45am

"People" doing "things".

/Coming to a Homeland Security Memo soon!

87 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:42:11am

re: #85 Jeff_McAwesome

I'm saying Fred stinks.

88 shibumi  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:42:16am

House Homeland Security Committee
[Link: homeland.house.gov...]

Democrats:
Bennie G. Thompson (MS-2)
Chairman of the full Committee on Homeland Security.
Loretta Sanchez (CA-47)
Ed Markey (MA-7)
Norman D. Dicks (WA-6)
Jane Harman (CA-36)
Peter DeFazio (OR-4)
Nita Lowey (NY-18)
Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC)
Zoe Lofgren (CA-16)
Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Donna Christensen (USVI)
Bob Etheridge (NC-2)
James R. Langevin (RI-2)
Henry Cuellar (TX-28)
Christopher P. Carney (PA-10)
Yvette D. Clarke (NY-11)
Al Green (TX-9)
Ed Perlmutter (CO-7)

Republicans:
Peter T. King, New York, Ranking Member
Lamar S. Smith, Texas
Christopher Shays, Connecticut
Mark E. Souder, Indiana
Tom Davis, Virginia
Dan Lungren, California
Mike Rogers, Alabama
Bobby Jindal, Louisiana
Dave G. Reichert, Washington
Michael T. McCaul, Texas
Charlie Dent, Pennsylvania
Ginny Brown-Waite, Florida
Gus M. Bilirakis, Florida
David Davis, Tennessee
Kevin McCarthy , California

Congress switchboard: 202-224-3121
Nancy Pelosi’s office: 202-225-4965

(Not sure if any of this is helpful)

Shouldn't the Democrats just all convert to Islam now and get it all over with? We all know who they support, and their attempts at deception are getting a bit tiresome.

89 ROPMA  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:43:45am

re: #64 JamesTKirk

#55 ROPMA

I am convinced that the demi-rats subconsciously want another attack so they have something else to blame on Bush.

I do not believe, in all cases, that it is subconscious.

I was being nice.

90 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:43:49am
“Democrats are trying to find any technical excuse to keep immunity out of the language of the bill to protect citizens, who in good faith, report suspicious Democrat activity to police or law enforcement,” Mr. King said in an interview last night. “This is a slap in the face of good citizens who do their patriotic duty and come forward, and it caves in to radical Islamists Democrats,” Mr. King said.

Fixed.


OT-
Ron Paul on Mike Gallagher right now.

Zombie site down.

91 Jeff_McAwesome  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:43:54am

re: #87 Killgore Trout

I'm no Fred! fan, but that was the whole point on the NYT hit piece. They wanted to discredit him, and apparently it worked.

92 daughter of patriots  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:44:10am

Even Ted, deep down, knows Osama's on his side.

93 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:44:32am

peter king on wabc radio 770. now

94 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:44:41am

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Bless you! I'm so happy someone noticed!

You're on precisely the same page I am; it's not the lobbying, it's the lying. And the whole, "fed through the 'conservative presidential candidate' speechifier" feel I get from Thompson.

95 sarah  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:44:52am

re: #26 Iron Fist

re:

The Democrats want to make the world safer.

Safer for terrorists, that is. They aren't anti-War. They are on the other side.

This is not want I want to hear on a Thursday morning... I refuse to wear a burka!

96 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:45:05am

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Go Rudy!

97 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:45:07am

re: #88 shibumi

The Dems' side reads like a who's who of nitwits and lamebrains. Sheila Jackson-Lee, Zoe Lofgren, Ed Mah-key...

98 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:45:14am

#80 Dianna

It won't prove a thing to me. I've always known it's a matter of when, not if, and I work in a big, fat, soft target.

You have my best wishes. I don't work in a target anymore, but in the 90s I spent a lot of time in a certain five-sided building.

That's the problem with #67 Joan Not of Arc's comment- odds are it won't be these bastards that get hit; and with the help of the MSM, it might not be these bastards that ultimately get blamed, either.

If terrorists burn down all of their houses, with the Senators still in them, Rosie O'Dinosaur will be be leading the charge to blame Bush because "this is the first time in history that fire has destroyed wood!"

99 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:45:23am

re: #84 Carolina Girl

Don't Take Me Alive?

100 Dave the.....  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:45:36am

It's almost as though the Democrats don't want to win in November 2008.

101 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:45:45am

OT: Do you still trust the BBC?

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

looks to be pretty much an Emphatic 'NO' from the replies. Looks like the Beeb has really gotten themselves in trouble

102 EvilAmerican  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:46:00am

I think that the Dems have forgotten who they exist to protect. They are, in effect, trying to silence those whose suspicions might just prevent the next terrorist attack. Because (ahem!) that threat is really just a scare tactic that the Administration uses to keep us as sheep, right?

I hope that my party screams loudly about how the Dhimmicrats have tried to erode our ability to fight the war on terror!

103 Jeff_McAwesome  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:46:06am

re: #97 Ward Cleaver

Yeah, that's pretty much going to be the case with any list of Democrats.

104 shane  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:46:16am

Wow. Color me shocked. The democrats are doing something to further attempt to bring our country low. They have been working at destroying America since the early 1900's. They just don't stop trying. They will convert us to Socialism or do everything within their power to damage us.

105 sarah  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:46:43am

#90, I saw my first car with 2 Ron Paul stickers on it the other week. And then when I saw that they were neighbors down the street and have Ron Paul stuff everywhere I just laugh each time I walk by their house.

106 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:47:10am

#95 sarah

This is not want I want to hear on a Thursday morning... I refuse to wear a burka!

Don't. They're hot and uncomfortable.

107 Jeff_McAwesome  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:47:31am

re: #105 sarah

I saw a car with RON PAUL! painted on the back window the other day. I laughed for 5 minutes.

108 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:47:49am

call pelosi and reed. they are trying to ram this thru today.

109 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:48:10am

You see something, you say something.

That's what the Circuit City employee in NJ did - and the result was the discovery of the Fort Dix Six.

Other plots have been discovered through tips by civilians that have turned into law enforcement investigations.

If you attach criminal liability for speaking out about suspicious activity, you will open up a can of worms and lessen the likelyhood that someone will speak out about what they've seen for fear of being sued for seeing some suspicious activities that turned out not to be terror related.

110 into your illusion  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:48:19am

re: #35 JamesTKirk

re: #35 JamesTKirk

As has been said before, if they were just stupid, or acting at random, then sometimes they would do the right thing. But no- the only explanation for the fact that they are continually on the side of our enemies is pure premeditated malice towards you, me, and our entire country.

You go, man! It is hard to think of our fellow Americans-- liberal Congressmen-- as having premeditated malice. Nobody wants to think that Americans could side with anything other than liberty and freedom for every human being, not just Americans. But the left just keep on giving reasons to doubt their belief in freedom and liberty.

111 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:48:21am

re: #91 Jeff_McAwesome

Yes it did, it was an easily exposed lie which is a pet peeve of mine. That's Mikey Moore-style lying. He thinks people are too stupid to check facts.

112 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:48:32am

re: #95 sarah

re: #26 Iron Fist


re: littlegreenfootballs.com...] target="_blank">

The Democrats want to make the world safer.

Safer for terrorists, that is. They aren't anti-War. They are on the other side.


This is not want I want to hear on a Thursday morning... I refuse to wear a burka!

But you have such beautiful eyes...

113 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:48:56am

re: #98 JamesTKirk

I'm gloomily convinced that you are right. I'm not so gloomily convinced that the American people will buy it.

Even if a quarter of us are idiots, on at least one subject each.

114 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:49:39am

re: #102 EvilAmerican

Because (ahem!) that threat is really just a scare tactic

If one firmly believes "there is no terrorist threat" then all reports are false accusations, and the accusers must be punished.

115 Jeff_McAwesome  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:50:04am

re: #113 Dianna

Don't you remember that poll that came out that said a solid 50% of Americans are morons?

Hold on, let me find it...

116 ShanghaiRay  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:50:27am

(Off topic, however hilarious)

Enough of politics for this evening. Heading out to my favorite watering hole to drink some beer made from the finest water the Yantze River can produce to chat with my toothless and cavity infested Chinese cohorts about the superiority of Chinese toothpaste and cat food.

117 Endangered in MASS  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:50:36am

re: #97 Ward Cleaver

Fast Eddy. Can you say K-Mart Kennedy?

118 Kirly  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:51:16am

re: #35 JamesTKirk

unfortunately, i believe you are correct.

our founding fathers would kick today's congress' ass and take names!

119 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:51:40am

re: #113 Dianna

re: #98 JamesTKirk

I'm gloomily convinced that you are right. I'm not so gloomily convinced that the American people will buy it.

Even if a quarter of us are idiots, on at least one subject each.

I'm not saying the Dems'll succeed; but I am saying that that's what they're trying to do.

120 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:51:47am

re: #115 Jeff_McAwesome

I don't believe I've ever seen that - but I can well believe it!

Heck, I'm sure I'm a moron on at least one subject each day.

121 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:51:57am

Can we question their patriotism yet?

122 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:52:34am

re: #115 Jeff_McAwesome

re: #113 Dianna

Don't you remember that poll that came out that said a solid 50% of Americans are morons?

Hold on, let me find it...

I don't know about morons, but I'll bet about 50% of all Americans have below average intelligence.

123 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:52:34am

re: #116 ShanghaiRay

(Off topic, however hilarious)

Enough of politics for this evening. Heading out to my favorite watering hole to drink some beer made from the finest water the Yantze River can produce to chat with my toothless and cavity infested Chinese cohorts about the superiority of Chinese toothpaste and cat food.

I'd be careful about sending such posts through the Bamboo Curtain, if that's where you are. PRC not noted for a sense of humor.

124 iraqihere  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:52:41am

re: #100 Dave the...

well, they will win in the Islamic countries, latin america, cuba, Iran and N. Korea. they might get 90%.

/sorry if I don't reply, I just sneak out of job and post. and can't follow ..

125 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:53:29am

re: #109 lawhawk

Great post and absolutely right. It's as though they are so blinded by political correctness that they fail to realize they are assisting the enemy. Because, imo, if this isn't blindness, it's treasonous.

126 Firebreather  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:53:41am

Any truth to the rumor that CAIR HQ is now the 18,716th holiest place in Islam?

Or the rumor that Ibrahim Hooper is the 12th imam?

127 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:53:49am

re: #119 JamesTKirk

Understood.

Depressing, isn't it?

128 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:54:23am

re: #88 shibumi

The two representatives from Florida are on our side.

129 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:54:25am

So this means Democrats won't report suspicious activity under any circumstances. ...
Thanks for nothing!

130 ShanghaiRay  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:55:02am

#123

Thanks for the kind advise. However, it's referred to as the Great Firewall.

131 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:55:33am

Just Mitch McConnell's office TWICE. The first call was about
Hate Crimes Bill - Matthew Shepard Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007
Bill # S.1105

Original Sponsor:
Edward Kennedy (D-MA)

Cosponsor Total: 44
(last sponsor added 04/23/2007)
38 Democrats
2 Independents
4 Republicans

To oppose this stupid bill and then called about this 'john doe' provision. Spoke to the same girl. She remembered me from the first call. I told her I'm just fired up today.
Call your senators about both of these bills today.
see more about the 'hate crimes' bill here:
[Link: www3.capwiz.com...]

132 Jeff_McAwesome  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:55:50am

Ok, I found it. It was 44% morons.

[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

133 Jeff_McAwesome  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:56:22am

re: #122 JamesTKirk

I'll bet you're right about that.

134 Carol Herman  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:56:44am

The Bonkeys are witless sore losers. They haven't gotten over Algore's loss to Bush in 2000. And, they're leading in everything that's entrenched about government, as well as the lousy stuff in academia. You don't expect them to give up their power bases, do ya?

On the other hand, what should hold back the muslems, (and they, too share the bell curve); giving them an equal portion of morons. Is that IF and WHEN we get attacked again, Bush's "religion of peace" crap won't fly.

Good for the Internet catching this disaster meandering thru the "majority" congress. What's it gonna take to wake up the slumbering GOP kiesters, I don't know.

135 shane  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:57:02am

I believe that the democrats believe that America is an evil country. I hear people say that socialism is perfect and the ultimate good on paper, the corollary would be that capitalism is totally flawed and evil. I believe that they want to be socialist and until America is socialist and they are in control they think we are evil and should be destroyed. It started as far back as Korea. It was the first war that we pursued our enemy to a border and stopped. It was the only way the US could be defeated. Give our enemy a safe haven to rebuild, then let the public get tired of us fighting, then vote to quit. The whole time claim your enemy has a valid point to make. Make sure that your military must follow rules that stop them from having an overwhelming victory and continually prosecute soldiers for excess force or other rules that you create. Never talk about, or continue in a conversation if they bring up the enemies abuses and crimes. Change the subject and say that it is our fault because our soldiers are bad. Always talk about how many soldiers died, always talk about things that are beyond control. Talk about plans for peace, something that has never been done before and would be by all accounts impossible to do. Always run down your country and point out the faults. Never have a story in the paper without something negative ("School built in Afghanistan, mean while 2 US soldiers killed in humvee wreck in Kirkuit Iraq"). Always say that anyone exposing covert ops is exercising free speech, any one saying the war is going well is to have his character assasinated.

Alright. That's it for my morning rant against the left.

136 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:57:20am

Maybe the Dems should just cut to the chase: target all our nukes on our own cities and fire.

137 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:57:21am

re: #124 iraqihere

re: #100 Dave the...

well, they will win in the Islamic countries, latin america, cuba, Iran and N. Korea. they might get 90%.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

/sorry if I don't reply, I just sneak out of job and post. and can't follow ..

More power to ya, fellah.

138 Judith  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:57:26am

OT-CBC radio One news serving up anti Israel propaganda as usual. In their morning report they included a lengthy summary of the situation in Israel of Somali refugees being dumped over the Israeli border with Egypt. They included lovely imagery such as "circled by barbed wire under the blazing sun of the barren Negev desert" and complained about how Israel is violating international law by placing some of the Somali men into special segregated areas of a prison while a determination is made regarding their security risk status. Naturally the CBC report makes a HUGE deal about Israel accepts Jewish refugees from all over the world and was founded on the principal of accepting Jewish refugees but somehow can't deal with a few Muslim refugees from Dar-fur, a clear slam of the Jewish state.

CBC neglects to mention
1) Sudan is officially at war with Israel and has openly supported terrorists against Israel and so the security concerns are justified.
2) Egypt has treated these Dar-fur refugees very poorly and is turning a blind eye to human smugglers, thereby encouraging this transit of refugees through Egypt and into Israel in violation of international law.
3) If you look at the total number of refugees from around the world, Israel has taken in far more than any other country with far less aid.
4) These are MUSLIM refugees. Where are there Muslim brethren from the rich oil countries and why aren't they helping them?

Once again, an Arab created refugee problem threatens to swamp Israel with Muslim refugees and the world yawns while the Arabs do nothing and CBC criticizes Israel.

139 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:57:53am

re: #114 Silhouette

re: #102 EvilAmerican


Because (ahem!) that threat is really just a scare tactic

If one firmly believes "there is no terrorist threat" then all reports are false accusations, and the accusers must be punished.

Good point!

140 Firebreather  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:58:02am

I fully expect the Dems to eventually pass legislation that criminalizes as "hate speech" any speech offensive to Muslims.

If the Dems expand their congressional majorities, by 2012 such legislation may be a fact of life in America.

141 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:58:12am

re: #122 JamesTKirk

re: #115 Jeff_McAwesome


re: #113 Dianna

Don't you remember that poll that came out that said a solid 50% of Americans are morons?

Hold on, let me find it...


I don't know about morons, but I'll bet about 50% of all Americans have below average intelligence.

Mainly Americans are too lazy to do research and become informed. We would rather watch sitcoms and read people mag than learn what is going on in the world around us.

142 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:58:39am

re: #136 Peacekeeper

Maybe the Dems should just cut to the chase: target all our nukes on our own cities and fire.

They wish it was that easy! Unfortunately, the cities are where their followers are concentrated.

The Republicans are wisely more spread-out.

143 EvilAmerican  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:58:51am

re: #55 ROPMA

I am convinced that the demi-rats subconsciously want another attack so they have something else to blame on Bush.

I don't have an OPEN MIND.


Wow! Great link, ROMPA!

144 marsouin  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:59:00am

First John Edwards says that global Jihad's War on Humanity is just a bumper sticker, a minor problem that is vastly overblown. Now this. Is there a theme here? And for what purpose?

145 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:59:41am

I'll bet about 50% of all Americans have below average intelligence.

I really hope someone got the joke.

146 Jeff_McAwesome  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:00:05am

re: #145 JamesTKirk

I did. I LOLed.

147 Dustyvet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:00:17am

re: #26 Iron Fist

re: #10 dimestorenovel,

The Democrats want to make the world safer.

Safer for terrorists, that is. They aren't anti-War. They are on the other side.

The Dumbocrats are hell bent on turning the United States of America into an islamic republic!

148 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:00:28am

re: #131 newsjunkie_ky

DUH!
Called him and then realized it's the HOUSE. So now I'll call my representative. He's a fricking dem.

149 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:01:24am

re: #144 marsouin

Is there a theme here? And for what purpose?

Same answer to both questions: dawah.

150 lockandload  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:01:48am

Really is there any question left at all , that the American people have as many enemies in D.C. as we do in the Mid east? un friggin belivable . Scumbags , yeah go ahead and put another one in office. stupid ass moonbats.

151 Dianna  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:02:24am

re: #145 JamesTKirk

Got it, but I'm headed outside for a smoke.

152 mattm  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:02:29am

They are not just anti-war, they are anti-america.

153 EvilAmerican  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:02:36am

re: #139 ElderZionist

re: #114 Silhouette


re: #102 EvilAmerican

Because (ahem!) that threat is really just a scare tactic

If one firmly believes "there is no terrorist threat" then all reports are false accusations, and the accusers must be punished.

Good point!

Excellent point... can we sue the Democrats (as a party) for negligence?

154 Raven1  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:02:59am

If one follows this reasoning to it's logical conclusion, anyone could be sued for reporting any crime. See someone stealing a car? Sorry, it was the owner locked out of his vehicle. See you in court, sonny.

155 Jeff_McAwesome  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:04:15am

re: #154 Raven1

And if the guy is black, it's a hate crime!

156 mkelly  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:04:41am

As dems like whistle blowers and whistle blowers are protected we need to find a way to suggest that this is like whistle blowing so they will vote for it.

157 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:04:48am

OT

Just thinking about the NYC thing, with 400 psi (or is it 400ºF, I forget, but I hope its 400 psi, as 400ºF saturated steam would be more than 400 psi- Back in the day, I had what are known as steam tables, but Babcock & Wilscox, maker of fine industrial boilers, and later, IIRC, in thermo class in college we got to use them again, and I had a leg up on my fellow students, but I digress).


Now, NYC is not a seismic disaster in waiting, like California or Missouri, or even South Carolina. But it isn't as immune from quakes as, say, Houston, TX. IIRC, in the late 19th century, a moderate earthquake in Brooklyn actually collapsed some buildings.

So, if another moderate (ballpark 5 on the Richter, nothing huge by Cali standards) quake hits NYC, besides all the other unpleasantness from ruptured water mains and the such, geysers of steam, mud and rocks will be erupting all over Manhattan?

158 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:05:42am

re: #156 mkelly

As dems like whistle blowers and whistle blowers are protected we need to find a way to suggest that this is like whistle blowing so they will vote for it.

They only like their whistle blowers. Remember how much they loved Linda Tripp?

159 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:05:43am

re: #143 EvilAmerican

re: #55 ROPMA


I am convinced that the demi-rats subconsciously want another attack so they have something else to blame on Bush.

I don't have an OPEN MIND.


Wow! Great link, ROMPA!

Agreed, I'll send this to many friends.

160 beblebrox  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:05:50am

I'm flabbergasted. I mean, for what purpose? is it for some perceived political gain? Or something far more nefarious, such as so much Western Guilt that they feel that they must make amends by actually aiding in their own (and our) destruction?

161 paxnhymn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:06:01am

re: #156 mkelly

As dems like whistle blowers and whistle blowers are protected we need to find a way to suggest that this is like whistle blowing so they will vote for it.

ONLY if the whistle blower advances their agenda, otherwise the hens may come home to roost, so no, they really don't like whistleblowers..

162 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:06:03am

It looks like we're once again on a collision course between Palestinian terrorists and Israel. The rockets keep hitting Israel, Israel is about to release 256 prisoners tomorrow, including the head of the PFLP, and Hamas is a grave and gathering threat.

Oh, and the situation in Lebanon isn't any better. Four more Lebanese soldiers died in fighting with Fatah al Islam. Syria and Iran are licking their chops at the situation, and we've got a media that keeps peddling nonsense that undermines national security.

163 Ginn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:06:35am

What is the Democrat's defense of why they are attempting to do this?

164 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:06:58am

re: #163 Ginn

What is the Democrat's defense of why they are attempting to do this?

"Screw them!"

165 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:07:06am

re: #154 Raven1

If one follows this reasoning to it's logical conclusion, anyone could be sued for reporting any crime. See someone stealing a car? Sorry, it was the owner locked out of his vehicle. See you in court, sonny.


The difference is that once the cops showed up, the owner would probably thank you for doing what you did i.e. keep an eye on property that you didn't have to. The purpose of this legislation is to allow extremists to subdue the American people through legislation. They tried terror and it didn't work out so well so now they are shooting for a political solution.

166 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:07:15am

I wonder whose approval ratings will hit zero first: the President or "the most ethical Congress in history".

167 lockandload  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:07:54am

Hell we need our own town , you know the lefty/commies have SanFran as a bastion . Maybe we need Lizardville, lizardburg or lizardboro , im cool with whatever as long as its not lizardstan.

168 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:07:57am

this is so annoying. i'm going to risk the law suits from cair. i'm going to chose to hurt a terrorists feelings.

169 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:08:12am

re: #163 Ginn

Democrats don't believe in defense.

170 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:08:14am

re: #162 lawhawk

It looks like we're once again on a collision course between Palestinian terrorists and Israel. The rockets keep hitting Israel, Israel is about to release 256 prisoners tomorrow, including the head of the PFLP, and Hamas is a grave and gathering threat.

Oh, and the situation in Lebanon isn't any better. Four more Lebanese soldiers died in fighting with Fatah al Islam. Syria and Iran are licking their chops at the situation, and we've got a media that keeps peddling nonsense that undermines national security.

Yeah, so what's your point?

/tag

171 Judith  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:08:32am

re: #151 Dianna

Dianna, please give up the smoking. I used to work for a respirologist and she says her patients who come in and ask her if she is going to tell them to quit smoking too, "No, by the time you are referred to me your are so far gone there is no point in your qutting. I can only offer you palliative care and you might as well keep smoking so you don't suffer as long or cost the health care system as much. I am willing to speak to your smoking relatives who are still healthy enough to derive benefit by quitting though."

172 Raven1  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:08:37am

That's for sure. Where will it all end? I'm sure the lawyers will make money from this.re: #155 Jeff_McAwesome

173 bosforus  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:09:02am

i remember the story about CAIR dropping all their lawsuits when lawyers started finding financial ties to the middle east but wasn't there a story just last night about CAIR on O'Reilly? one group was called Holy Land and they were in cahoots with CAIR. I don't remember the rest.

174 EvilAmerican  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:09:20am

re: #162 lawhawk

Hmmm... any chance that the prisoners have been implanted with GPS chips? I dont know if the tech exists to do it, but it would be awesome if they could be tracked... by a JDAM!

175 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:09:59am

re: #168 nyc redneck

this is so annoying. i'm going to risk the law suits from cair. i'm going to chose to hurt a terrorists feelings.

If ya cap 'em instead of reporting 'em, only your side of the story goes into the police report. Just sayin'...

176 Judith  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:10:18am

re: #174 EvilAmerican

re: #162 lawhawk

Hmmm... any chance that the prisoners have been implanted with GPS chips? I dont know if the tech exists to do it, but it would be awesome if they could be tracked... by a JDAM!

Now there's a lovely idea.

177 mrsoc  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:10:23am
been banned from posting any further entries on Daily Kos, arguably the most influential of all liberal blogs in the US.


Oh, fucking please. How do they get these words out without shitting their pampers?
I have emailed and called everyone I can think of over this. Are we all going to sit around and wait for the islamic mushroom cloud? What the hell is wrong with the dems? I swear I will do everything I can to defeat every one of them next election. They are scum.

178 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:10:44am

re: #167 lockandload

Hell we need our own town , you know the lefty/commies have SanFran as a bastion . Maybe we need Lizardville, lizardburg or lizardboro , im cool with whatever as long as its not lizardstan.

Calling it Lizardstan might piss them off more than it pisses you off; if so, it'll be worth it.

179 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:11:22am

re: #171 Judith
I keep telling my colleagues that I'll stop smoking cigars as soon as the war is over.

180 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:11:28am

Democrats are assholes.

181 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:12:18am

re: #157 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

From what I've read on the steam system, it operates at about 400F with 150 psi. You're right that there is a possibility of earthquakes in the NY metro region, but the last significant quake on the East Coast was a magnitude 5 in Plattsburgh in 2002. There have been some stronger quakes, but nothing rivalling the New Madrid or West Coast fault zones for activity or intensity.

182 Ginn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:12:25am

re: #169 Sharmuta

re: #163 Ginn

Democrats don't believe in defense.

I just wondered if they had actually given some sort of "reason" as to why they were doing this to the bill? I read that they have been attempting to strip the measure by back door. Has any of the Dems said "why?" they are doing this?

183 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:13:16am

The problem isn't with what we are smoking, but what they are smoking. Whatever it is, apart from Willie's cigars, it ain't tobacco.

/I personally don't smoke. Unless I've been set on fire.

184 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:13:36am

re: #145 JamesTKirk

Yes, that really rang a bell... curve...

185 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:13:39am

re: #166 Dirk Diggler

I think Bush's ratings will go up as Congress' ratings go down. People are starting to see the destrutiveness of the dems, but it will be a long haul and we will probably have to suffer more from their agenda.

186 Judith  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:13:39am

re: #179 American Soldier

A rationalization about the mental equivalent of "I'll stop smashing myself in the head with a hammer over and over again just as soon as the war is over." Honestly, it is so bad for your health and we need all our lizardoids healthy. Quit today and stay healthy to keep up the good fight.

187 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:13:51am

Are hillary and hussein obama behind this too?

188 Ginn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:13:53am

re: #164 JamesTKirk

re: #163 Ginn

What is the Democrat's defense of why they are attempting to do this?
"Screw them!"

Capn..

I'm doooin it as fast as Aye can!

189 rw in san diego  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:14:02am

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Agree with you on all counts!

190 cbinflux  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:14:22am

How to Practice Faith at Work Without Offending Others
Here's How Some Employers Integrate Religion Into the Workplace
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

For example, at Ford Motor Co., its Interfaith Network, which represents all faiths, lobbied executives to install special sinks and washrooms to accommodate the prayer needs of Muslim employees.

/Well, isn't that Special.

191 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:14:53am

re: #188 Ginn

re: #164 JamesTKirk


re: #163 Ginn
What is the Democrat's defense of why they are attempting to do this?
"Screw them!"

Capn..

I'm doooin it as fast as Aye can!

Engage!

/then disengage... then engage... then disengage... then engage...

192 Raven1  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:14:56am

re: #165 Jetpilot1101
I know that, I was just following this reasoning to it's absurd conclusion. This is discrimination, if I was a criminal, I would claim discrimination. Why should terrorists be able to get away with crime, and not normal non law abiding criminals?

193 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:14:57am

re: #183 JamesTKirk

The problem isn't with what we are smoking, but what they are smoking. Whatever it is, apart from Willie's cigars, it ain't tobacco.

/I personally don't smoke. Unless I've been set on fire.

Good thought- check voting records on dope legalization.

I've never been on fire, just fired upon.

194 cbinflux  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:15:16am

Live stim; dead stim.

Name the movie.

195 EvilAmerican  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:15:33am

re: #182 Ginn

I predict they will not provide an explaination. Doing so would give fuel to debate and increase exposure to their agenda. I cannot imagine that anyone in MY America would find their actions acceptable.

196 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:15:45am

OT
Stolen US Cars Being Used in Suicide Attacks in Iraq

WASHINGTON -- Fifteen years after states were directed to share motor vehicle information in a national database, only nine states have done so, making it nearly impossible to identify hundreds of thousands of stolen vehicles -- including a small but steady number that end up as car bombs in Iraq.

FBI officials said they believe the database could help break up far-flung terrorist networks, which are using vehicles stolen and smuggled from the United States.

Bought and sold on the international black market, cars and trucks help fund criminal operations and can be turned into the terrorist weapon of choice against US troops and Iraqi civilians: vehicles packed with explosives. The FBI declined to estimate how many stolen US cars have turned up as car bombs in Iraq but said the number is believed to be at least in the dozens.

197 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:16:00am

re: #190 cbinflux

How to Practice Faith at Work Without Offending Others
Here's How Some Employers Integrate Religion Into the Workplace
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]


For example, at Ford Motor Co., its Interfaith Network, which represents all faiths, lobbied executives to install special sinks and washrooms to accommodate the prayer needs of Muslim employees.

/Well, isn't that Special.

Dhimmi diversity crap.

198 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:16:36am

re: #145 JamesTKirk

I'll bet about 50% of all Americans have below average intelligence.

I really hope someone got the joke.

There's an apocryphal story that President Eisenhower was initially alarmed when that same fact was reported to him.

199 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:16:57am
200 Ginn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:17:10am

I just read the WAPO article relating to this thread. What a bunch of lazy ass reporting. What happened to the days of digging for a story? Get in there and find out why the Dems are doing this! Get a couple of frikkin quotes!

Damn, do we have to do all the heavy lifting?

201 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:17:10am

re: #193 American Soldier

re: #183 JamesTKirk


The problem isn't with what we are smoking, but what they are smoking. Whatever it is, apart from Willie's cigars, it ain't tobacco.

/I personally don't smoke. Unless I've been set on fire.


Good thought- check voting records on dope legalization.

I've never been on fire, just fired upon.

Dope legalization might be a good thing if it makes more of them forget to vote. Remember how much success Michael Moore had with stirring up the slacker vote? They're called "slackers" for a reason, you fat fu☪k!

202 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:17:28am

re: #185 newsjunkie_ky

re: #166 Dirk Diggler

I think Bush's ratings will go up as Congress' ratings go down. People are starting to see the destructiveness of the dems, but it will be a long haul and we will probably have to suffer more from their agenda.

...and remember a hair less than 50% of the American people support the dems. It's going to be a very long haul.

203 Ginn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:18:16am

re: #191 JamesTKirk

re: #188 Ginn

re: #164 JamesTKirk

re: #163 Ginn
What is the Democrat's defense of why they are attempting to do this?
"Screw them!"

Capn.. I'm doooin it as fast as Aye can!
Engage!

/then disengage... then engage... then disengage... then engage...

Capn...

She's givin it all she's got. Come on, Capn, have some compassion.

204 Firebreather  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:18:24am

The Dems are rancid beyond belief.

But lest we forget, it's the current occupant of the White House who has put unbelievable pressure on Russia to grant independence to Muslim Chechnya; who has pressured Europe to accept Muslim Turkey into the EU; who has pressured Serbia (and, by extension, Russia) to accept a Muslim state in Kosovo; who just gave $500 million to Fatah; who accused Americans opposed to the Dubai Ports deal of "Islamophobia."

A few more acts of unbelievable short-sightedness & shameful pandering to Muslim terrorists, and Bush may be accurately labeled a new Janissary.

205 Dustyvet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:18:33am

re: #1 the_moll

Time to crash the phone systems again.


Say something!

Congress switchboard: 202-224-3121
Nancy Pelosi’s office: 202-225-4965

206 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:18:40am

re: #175 American Soldier

re: #168 nyc redneck

this is so annoying. i'm going to risk the law suits from cair. i'm going to chose to hurt a terrorists feelings.
If ya cap 'em instead of reporting 'em, only your side of the story goes into the police report. Just sayin'...

excellent point.

207 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:18:44am

re: #186 Judith

re: #179 American Soldier

A rationalization about the mental equivalent of "I'll stop smashing myself in the head with a hammer over and over again just as soon as the war is over." Honestly, it is so bad for your health and we need all our lizardoids healthy. Quit today and stay healthy to keep up the good fight.

I appreciate the good thoughts, but I used up the last of my health in the first years of this war. Now I'm just trying to enjoy whatever I have left while I train as many youngsters as I can as quickly as I can. Smoking cigars and drinking booze are the least of my worries.

208 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:18:56am

#182 Ginn: They will avoid any forum where they'll have to give any explanation for doing this. If forced, they'll style it as "the King amendment would enshrine racial profiling as national policy" or some such thing.

209 ElKafir  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:19:03am

re: #102 EvilAmerican


I hope that my party screams loudly about how the Dhimmicrats have tried to erode our ability to fight the war on terror!


Don't you know the War On Terror is nothing more than a bumpersticker?

210 grumpy old codger  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:19:08am

Have the Dhimmicrats bothered to register as agents of foreign powers yet? I honestly don't believe that they are this stupid, however...

211 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:19:32am

re: #195 EvilAmerican

re: #182 Ginn

I predict they will not provide an explaination. Doing so would give fuel to debate and increase exposure to their agenda. I cannot imagine that anyone in MY America would find their actions acceptable.

Since the goal is dawah, what the dems would tell us would only be taqiyya anyways.

Ginn- it doesn't matter why they are doing this, only that they are.

212 Rides A Pale Horse  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:19:42am

Unless and until the people of this country are willing to vote OUT these bastards instead of continuing to keep them in office for whatever personal, pork related agendas they have, this crap will continue to undermine our security and safety.

Wise up America, fasten your seatbelts...we're in for a bumpy ride.

213 g3n3r1c  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:20:17am

Nuclear Secrets Allegedly Stolen in Tennessee

NEW YORK -- WNBC.com's Jonathan Dienst has learned a contract worker is accused of stealing nuclear secrets from the Oak Ridge National Lab in Tennessee.

Investigators said the worker wanted to sell the secrets to a "foreign country."

Investigators are calling the theft a serious breach of security at one of the country's most important nuclear research labs. Officials said there was serious concern the documents could have fallen into the hands of enemy states or even terrorist organization

214 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:20:49am

re: #205 Dustyvet

re: #1 the_moll

Time to crash the phone systems again.

Say something!

Congress switchboard: 202-224-3121
Nancy Pelosi’s office: 202-225-4965

i got thru to pelosi. will try again.

215 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:20:50am

#211 Sharmuta

Ginn- it doesn't matter why they are doing this, only that they are.

And only that they fail.

216 Dustyvet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:21:10am

re: #194 cbinflux

Live stim; dead stim.

Name the movie.

The Sand Pebbles...

217 Ginn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:21:19am

re: #195 EvilAmerican

re: #182 Ginn

I predict they will not provide an explaination. Doing so would give fuel to debate and increase exposure to their agenda. I cannot imagine that anyone in MY America would find their actions acceptable.

Hmmm.. I think if you were even a half assed reporter you would realize that you have the right to ask what our political representatives are up to and report it if they don't!

There are ways to fuel the debate and increase exposure to their agenda. One of them is getting your video camera out and filming the Dems as they attempt to escape or worm their way out of your questions.

This is just laziness.

218 EvilAmerican  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:21:31am

re: #210 grumpy old codger

What do you think Pelosi was doing on he Middle-East tour?

219 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:21:50am

re: #35 JamesTKirk

The Democrats know full well that, if they want to take over the whole ball of wax in 2008, that Bush must be completely discredited (even more so than Bush is doing to himself). The war in Iraq must be a complete failure, and must be blamed on Bush. The genocide that they know full well will be caused by their withdrawal? Bush's fault.

Furthermore, they need to destroy the idea that Bush has kept us safe at home, the Republicans can be trusted more than Democrats with national security (which has been a truism for longer than most of us have been alive). They need another terrorist attack on US soil. Let me repeat that: The democrats want, need, crave, and are working to enable, another terrorist attack on US soil.

Nothing else fits the evidence.

As has been said before, if they were just stupid, or acting at random, then sometimes they would do the right thing. But no- the only explanation for the fact that they are continually on the side of our enemies is pure premeditated malice towards you, me, and our entire country.

And if you think this is strong- just imagine what I wanted to say, but self-deleted, in #9.

A-friggin-Men. It also fits the bill that the Lawyer Lobby / Democrat Party wants to go back to the Clinton Era of treating acts of terrorism as 'criminal acts, and not acts of war. By removing protection from John Doe it will ensure their agenda.

220 mo foe  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:21:57am

re: #194 cbinflux


Sand Pebbles.

221 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:22:01am

Geez, no matter what George Bush does wrong, like the Bush-DWI Killer-John McCain Open Borders Act, or his apparent decision to trust the Yurpians to talk Iran out of nuclear weapons, and no matter how RINOs like Spectre and Snowe p!ss me off, it is little things like this, further proof that the Demonrats (BTW, I've seen comments that people scroll by at things like Demonrats- well, too bad, they are, with fewer exceptions each year, the party of treasonous scum) have no regard for the safety of the average American, makes me realize, that as liberal as Rudy Giuliani might be, heck, for that matter, as flawed as John McCain (although his chances of being the GOP nominee seem to be toast) is, to sit at home, or worse yet, vote for Edwards, Hussein Obama or Stalin in a Pantsuit, is the height of irresponsibility.


And don't give me the talk about how Ford losing to Carter worked out well, because it gave us Reagan. Yes, it worked out well, although the whole threat of Iran/Hezb'Allah with nukes can be laid at his feet. I suspect that Hillary, especially, amongst the Dem front-runners, if having a Democrat Congress, would pack the SCOTUS with more Bader-Ginsburg ACLU attornies, and attempt to limit any criticism from talk radio by bringing back the 'Fairness Doctrine', so she might wind up an 8 year POTUS, and even if voted out, a policy of total appeasement to the fundy Islamists for 4 years, combined with more Clinton I style expansion of the welfare state at the expense of the defense budget, could be difficult to overcome.

222 JimmyTheClaw  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:23:21am

breaking arrest at oak ridge someone trying to sell nuke secrets

223 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:24:19am

re: #215 JamesTKirk

Of course, Captain. Inshati'l-laat.

224 Ginn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:24:21am

re: #208 Occasional Reader

#182 Ginn: They will avoid any forum where they'll have to give any explanation for doing this. If forced, they'll style it as "the King amendment would enshrine racial profiling as national policy" or some such thing.

Occasional Reader: I agree with you. They've already got their talking points in line if any reporter gets close enough to ask them "why" they are attempting to strip the King bill of this very important measure.

Racial profiling might work but doesn't this apply to agencies and not to the general public? As an "average" citizen it's not up to me to know what the current "racial" profiling "rules" are and how to "apply" them.

225 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:24:24am

re: #196 NoSubmission

Fascinating article. According to the story, 650,000 of the more than one million vehicles stolen annually are never recovered.

226 Tricky Dick  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:25:17am

OT

Woman raped before "honor killing"


A Kurdish woman was brutally raped, stamped on and strangled by members of her family and their friends in an "honor killing" carried out at her London home because she had fallen in love with the wrong man.

They conveniently left out whether or not they were muslims but I'd bet the farm that they were.

227 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:25:51am

re: #199 taxfreekiller

Thank you Asia, most likely our big trading partner of the rich evil money cult, China.

Our bees that are dying off, "nosema ceranae" microscopic parasite from asia, common in asian bees who are less vulnerable to it,

developing now

Mariano Higes of a Spanish research from Guadalajara the Spanish province east of Madrid where most of Spain's honey comes from.

Do you have a link, tfk?

First, they kill our cats and dogs. Now our bees.

228 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:25:55am

I'm afraid that this legislation was Dead On Arrival. It flies directly in the face of the Iron Triangle which props up the democrats: 1) The ACLU, 2) The trial lawyers, and 3) Our nation's enemies. Sad but true.

229 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:25:57am

The Sand Pebbles! Now there's a movie I haven't seen in a while. Starring Steve McQueen, and co-starring the Browning Automatic Rifle.

230 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:26:01am

re: #223 Sharmuta

re: #215 JamesTKirk

Of course, Captain. Inshati'l-laat.

"Boffo - we should be so lucky."

/I'm out to lunch (literally this time, not just figuratively).
/Take care, all of you.

231 Paratrooper  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:26:38am

re: #14 TimeQuake

Demoncrats.

Dhimmicrats.

fixed that for ya

232 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:26:48am

re: #226 Tricky Dick

OT

Woman raped before "honor killing"


A Kurdish woman was brutally raped, stamped on and strangled by members of her family and their friends in an "honor killing" carried out at her London home because she had fallen in love with the wrong man.

They conveniently left out whether or not they were muslims but I'd bet the farm that they were.

Well, I'll bet she wasn't a Kurdish Baptist!

233 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:27:43am

re: #219 Oh no...Sand People!

re: #221 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

[Link: herbertsobel.blogspot.com...]

234 scottthecanuck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:27:49am

re: #10 dimestorenovel

how is it that the dem,s always by instinct seem to be on the wrong side of every issue in this conflict. What the h*ll is wrong with them?

235 cbinflux  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:29:17am

re: #216 Dustyvet

No more calls; we have a Winner!

236 Ginn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:29:23am

re: #211 Sharmuta

Ginn- it doesn't matter why they are doing this, only that they are.

If we are going to expose them then we need to pin them down with as much ammo as necessary. A big part of this is getting them to give us their reasons as to why they feel this measure of protecting the "average" citizen should be stripped from the measure.

237 American Soldier  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:29:41am

Back to meatspace. Later, all.

238 Dustyvet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:30:20am

re: #218 EvilAmerican

re: #210 grumpy old codger

What do you think Pelosi was doing on he Middle-East tour?

Setting the stage for Islamic rule in the United States of America...the f*** bitch! Sedition and Treason the dumbocrats way...

239 scottthecanuck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:30:36am

re: #232 Ward Cleaver

More MSM PC whitewash. They won't utter the M word in a negative context.

240 firebreather  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:31:19am

re: #226 Tricky Dick

"I see nothing wrong with the woman's family (presumably her father, brothers, etc.) raping her before killing her; they were just following the example of the Muslim Prophet Muhammad (PBUH); besides, who are we to judge? All cultures are equal, except that America is worse. We should respect all the beautiful hues in the rainbow of diversity."

--Katie "Koran" Couric

241 Paratrooper  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:31:20am

re: #210 grumpy old codger

Have the Dhimmicrats bothered to register as agents of foreign powers yet? I honestly don't believe that they are this stupid, however...

I am surprised we have not had an treason charges... because, my God, there is definitely enough evidence for it. Benedict Arnold at least fought for the Patriots awhile before turning to the dark side, he was a greater patriot than 85% of the Dhimmicrats.

242 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:32:31am

re: #227 Ward Cleaver

i have seen only 2 bees in my garden this summer, that sort of looked like honey bees. they were odd looking. bigger than a honey bee.

243 sarah  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:33:01am

My humble opinion, /rant on

Democrats don't understand us people. They always say that they are for the people, but I think that they are richer than anyone else. Also, they don't understand that they are the ones that are being more oppressive to us the people. I have never liked their stance on many of things, but there were a few that I could understand where they were coming from. But when I looked deeper into the stance they had the more it didn't make sense to me. The main fight I pick with any Democrat is if they are for religious tolerance then why are they making it so hard for me to be a Christian in my own country? They never seem to be able to answer that question without yelling and shouting at me.

This getting sued for protecting my butt is not a good thing. Democrats, don't you understand I'm looking out for my safety!? Forbid anything happens again on this soil that is just as bad as 9/11. There hasn't been anything since then. For goodness sake, I'm safer here than anywhere else, but I want to keep it that way. Don't hinder my ability to speak up!

/rant off.

244 aqvik  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:34:45am
245 Dustyvet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:35:26am

re: #229 Occasional Reader

The Sand Pebbles! Now there's a movie I haven't seen in a while. Starring Steve McQueen, and co-starring the Browning Automatic Rifle.


Just bought a copy on Ebay, Great film!

While in Vietnam with the 9th Infantry Division, one guy from my unit got his paws on a BAR, and carried it on our ammo convoys.

246 cbinflux  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:35:50am

Halfway Houses For Al-Qaeda
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

A fascinating look last night by intrepid NBC reporter Richard Engel on a halfway house for convicted al-Qaeda criminals in Saudi Arabia. The recidivism rate (return to terrorist/criminal activity) so far? 0%.

Worldview has more, but it merely reiterates the point I made last week regarding the Terrorist-Industrial Complex. These guys are criminals; the “Manson Family in turbans;” the “Syndicate in the Sand.” How many Soviet or Nazi prisoners of war were “rehabilitated”? How many North Vietnamese or Iraqi Republican Guard soldiers were “rehabilitated”?

If these al-Qaeda were members of an “army” or “enemy combatants” or whatever term you want to use, you wouldn’t be able to “rehabilitate” them along the lines of the way we rehabilitate our criminals in society. And so far, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and probably several other countries are showing that some of these guys can, indeed, be rehabilitated.

The point remains: these guys are criminals. Let’s keep that and their so-called “threat potential” in perspective.

247 sifty  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:36:47am

When John "Liberace" Edwards loses his bid for the nomination, he wants to stand in court and channel the spirits of angry muz airline passengers for the jury and win more millions for his shabby little empire. In an effort to understand poverty of course.

If I'm gonna get sued my some asshole jihadi with a shoe bomb on a bus somewhere, I'm definitely still going to speak up. I don't care if it pisses off every muz and ACLU douche-bag on earth. It's not as if they don't already hate me.

Better tried by twelve Americans than be picked up off the ground with a sponge by the bomb squad for keeping my mouth shut.

But I'm simple.

248 Dustyvet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:37:40am

re: #235 cbinflux

re: #216 Dustyvet

No more calls; we have a Winner!


Great!

249 stuiec  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:37:54am

Here's what happens to "John Does" in the Philippines:

Why moderate Muslims might be reluctant to speak up about terrorism

Interesting which stories the AP doesn't think Americans need to hear about. Like, for instance, this one, about a Muslim man who thought it was his duty to tell authorities about al-Qaeda affiliates in his neighborhood -- and got cut up into little pieces for his trouble.

ZAMBOANGA, Philippines - A Muslim missionary who tipped off authorities about the activities and whereabouts of al-Qaida-linked militants on a southern Philippine island has been found dead and his body mutilated, a military official said Thursday.

The remains, chopped into pieces and put inside a sack, were found Wednesday in the village of Balagtasan in Lamitan township on Basilan island, more than a week after 14 marines were killed and 10 of them beheaded in an ambush blamed on Muslim rebels.

Marine Col. Ramiro Alivio, the island's military chief, said the slain missionary, who was not identified, had provided information to the military about Abu Sayyaf militants and other "lawless elements" on Basilan.


So what part of this story makes it unsuitable for US consumption: the fact that al-Qaeda terrorists murder their fellow Muslims in gruesome and barbaric ways, or that a devout Muslim had the guts and the humanity to do the right thing and tell the authorities about those terrorists to try to stop them from doing to others what they ended up doing to him?

250 mrsoc  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:38:12am

re: #243 sarah

100% correct. Now everyone start calling and emailing. I think they must know that they cannot operate in a vacuum anymore. Even if you try to shut down talk radio-you can't control the net. (Charles-that is right isn't it?) Well anyway, they can't control Charles.

251 EtNorskTroll  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:39:08am
re: #35 JamesTKirk

"...Furthermore, they need to destroy the idea that Bush has kept us safe at home, the Republicans can be trusted more than Democrats with national security (which has been a truism for longer than most of us have been alive). They need another terrorist attack on US soil. Let me repeat that: The democrats want, need, crave, and are working to enable, another terrorist attack on US soil."

Very insightful, Captain Kirk.

Very insightful indeed...

I hadn't thought of that.

*ponders*

~Norsk Troll

252 ContraJihadi  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:41:14am

re: #47 Carolina Girl

re: #33 Dianna

re: #29 Ward Cleaver

I'm trying, Ward. The trouble being, I'm saddled with Mike Honda; he votes exactly the same as Pete Stark, he's just not as nasty.

I have that nut job Ellen Tauscher, who's had her district drawn in such a way to exclude Travis AFB and include Lafayette.

I once tried emailing my congresscirtter. I thought that even a moonbat would want to help mitigate the supreme court's outrageous decision on eminent domain; but I live in the very belly of the beast and my representative is none other than Lynn Woolsey, who did nothing but add me to her mailing list; so I am not too optimistic about my chances of making her see reason on this John Doe provision.

253 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:43:02am

Why? Why? Why? Why?

The Dems always say they are tough on terror, but go out of their way to prove otherwise.

254 Bobibutu  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:44:26am

Some years back in SF I witnessed an attack and beating - I yelled out for the aggressor to stop - he ignored me - when he kicked the other bum - who was down - in the head I called the SFPD and said I was going to follow the perp and walk them in with my cell phone - others called an ambulance for the other guy who was bleeding and staggering around. I vectored the cops in and they took the perp down. As I was the witness and was effecting a citizens arrest according to the cops I had to reveal my name and address which became public record.

Short of the long the SOB sued me! - Eventually a judge in SF threw it out - but it was a hassle.

I just got of the phone with Madam Speakers comment line where I left her an earful. GGGrrr

255 EtNorskTroll  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:44:40am

re: #107 Jeff_McAwesome

re: #105 sarah

I saw a car with RON PAUL! painted on the back window the other day. I laughed for 5 minutes.

You think that's something, Jeff?

People are plastering RON PAUL election posters around the oil derrick walls in the city where I live...!

Let me know, lizards, if you want me to take some pictures.

It's surreal.

~Norsk Troll

256 jonturner  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:44:52am

re: #132 Jeff_McAwesome
44% morons? No way. You were right the first time. 50% morons.

257 cbinflux  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:47:07am

re: #248 Dustyvet

Your prize is in the ether.

258 scottthecanuck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:50:17am

re: #240 firebreather

speaking of stupid Katie Couric comments I remember during the coverage of the Columbia shuttle disaster she referred to the flight crew as being a "real reflection of the United Nations" in space.

Only problem with that was all the crew were American except for one Israeli...hardly countries popular at the UN

259 EtNorskTroll  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:52:49am

re: #244 aqvik

Call now! Malkin has contact numbers.

Sounds like they shut off the phone system already.

I call but it just rings and rings.

~Norsk Troll

260 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:53:00am

re: #234 scottthecanuck

re: #10 dimestorenovel

how is it that the dem,s always by instinct seem to be on the wrong side of every issue in this conflict. What the h*ll is wrong with them?

Practice makes perfect.

261 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:53:31am

re: #236 Ginn

If we are going to expose them then we need to pin them down with as much ammo as necessary.

This is true, however actions speak louder than words. Just that they are doing this will say something to American voters.

262 sarah  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:53:53am

#255 I want pictures please! I laugh so hard each time I see anyone with Ron Paul anything.

263 friarstale  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:56:31am

I think the sad part about this is that it might not even be a strictly Islamofascist "cause"

Lawyers and Democrats have long been in bed with each other, and Lawyers probably just want to get some of those CAIR petro-dollars, even if they are suing American Patriots to do it

They could care less if they win or lose the lawsuit, just as long as they can bill CAIR or whomever their $500 an hour to try it

264 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:57:53am

re: #262 sarah

#255 I want pictures please! I laugh so hard each time I see anyone with Ron Paul anything.

There are Ron Paul signs in our neighborhood recently - standard political professional signs on wires stuck in the ground. I'll get a picture and post it later.

265 J. Lichty  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:59:40am

While I think the politics of this bill are stark - it really adds nothing to current law.

Under the common law of every state that I am aware of, a person has a qualified privilege to report suspicious actvity to law enforcement - qualified means that it is privileged if made without malice or bad faith. Some states may even recognize an absolute privilege where a person reports something to law enforcement. Without getting into too much legal inside baseball, this bill for all practical purposes adds nothing. In fact, the whole "good faith" component does nothing really to help the tipsters, as "good faith" typically a question for the jury, forcing the defendant to go through discovery (depositions with CAIR's lawyers being able to grill them about their Islamophobia).

Of course the weakness of this bill is not the burr in the saddle for the Dhimmicrats who, if they had any sense would love that CAIR lawyers could still grill some white male christian Islamophobes in a deposition. So if they were really smart they would see that this amendment would not take away the platform for CAIR to go on Islamphobe snipe hunts any more than the current law does.

Maybe rep King can explain how this legislation advances anything other than looking for some good pr. If anyone hears him on a call in show, I would be interested to find out why he is not pushing for an absolute privilege.

266 scottthecanuck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:02:06am

re: #262 sarah

re: #263 friarstale


Also no legislation means intimidation, which could lead to a successful attack, creating victims and victim's families all looking to sue someone.

267 EtNorskTroll  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:04:38am

re: #264 ElderZionist

re: #262 sarah

#255 I want pictures please! I laugh so hard each time I see anyone with Ron Paul anything.

There are Ron Paul signs in our neighborhood recently - standard political professional signs on wires stuck in the ground. I'll get a picture and post it later.

You copycat, Elder!

It was my idea first...!

*wink*

I'll go take some shots of mine this afternoon and send them to Charles...

~Norsk Troll

268 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:05:58am

re: #267 EtNorskTroll

re: #264 ElderZionist


re: #262 sarah

#255 I want pictures please! I laugh so hard each time I see anyone with Ron Paul anything.

There are Ron Paul signs in our neighborhood recently - standard political professional signs on wires stuck in the ground. I'll get a picture and post it later.

You copycat, Elder!

It was my idea first...!

*wink*

I'll go take some shots of mine this afternoon and send them to Charles...

~Norsk Troll

Didn't your parents teach you to respect your elders? ;-)

269 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:08:30am

re: #105 sarah

#90, I saw my first car with 2 Ron Paul stickers on it the other week. And then when I saw that they were neighbors down the street and have Ron Paul stuff everywhere I just laugh each time I walk by their house.

Drove by a 2 story house with 3 newer cars out front and they have a large Ron Paul "Revolution" sign above their garage. What idiots. Someone clearly peed in their gene pool.

270 ready  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:12:24am

My first comment since registring. The current Democrats are truly modern day Copperheads as in the days of Lincoln.

271 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:13:36am

re: #270 ready

My first comment since registring. The current Democrats are truly modern day Copperheads as in the days of Lincoln.

Welcome, ready!

272 sifty  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:13:39am

I called Queen Botoxia's office. Got some snooty granola cruncher broad that thought it was all a big joke that so many people were calling.

At the end of my call I bet she took a coffee and joint break.

It weren't pretty.

Pelosi,Boxer, Byrd, Murtha, Specter, and Reid should be put in rubber rooms where they can't hurt themselves and others.
Folks should retire when they get senile and dangerous. I wouldn't trust these old fogies to take my car down to the corner store for milk. Why are they running my country?

273 Gmac  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:14:27am

Once again, the party of appeasement and surrender attempts to submit the American people to sharia law.

274 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:15:27am

re: #272 sifty

Folks should retire when they get senile and dangerous. I wouldn't trust these old fogies to take my car down to the corner store for milk. Why are they running my country?

Be careful generalizing. Some of us old fogies are still OK. Those particular ones would be just as dangerous even if they were young.

275 joan  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:21:59am

This is typical Democrat posturing, forever angling for approval by civil libertarians and multicultural activist networks. Totally clueless. They actually deserve the title bestowed upon them by the hated Ann Coulter: Treason Lobby

btw: Ann Coulter may have replaced Rush Limbaugh and the later Jerry Fallwell as "enemy of the people" for leftists.

1984, Orwell, Minitru: who was the propaganda poster-boy to whip the proles into a foaming frenzy of hate at doubleplus ungood thoughtcrime? He was always referred to as "the criminal so-and-so"

276 Sifty  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:24:48am

re: #274 ElderZionist

You're right. Teddy did most of his murderin' while still a young man!

Got no problems with old folks. Just the dangerous crazies that plow into farmer's markets and write bad national security legislation.

I even hope to be lucky enough to be a dirty old man some day, ogling college girls from my park bench and feeding the squirrels. Maybe enjoying a bacon sammich.

I just hope the cowards in Congress don't take away my chance to get old by giving my country away to the enemy with stunts like this.

277 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:28:23am

re: #276 Sifty

re: #274 ElderZionist

You're right. Teddy did most of his murderin' while still a young man!

Got no problems with old folks. Just the dangerous crazies that plow into farmer's markets and write bad national security legislation.

I even hope to be lucky enough to be a dirty old man some day, ogling college girls from my park bench and feeding the squirrels. Maybe enjoying a bacon sammich.

I just hope the cowards in Congress don't take away my chance to get old by giving my country away to the enemy with stunts like this.

That sounds like a good goal to me too!

278 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:29:10am

Read'em and weep, not only do we have an active enemy inside(need I mention a certain Party?), we are America Alone: The World Speaks The good news:

YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IT from George Bush's dismal approval rating, but 70 percent of Americans still "favor the U.S.-led efforts to fight terrorism."

The bad news:

While opposition to the Iraq war has grown, so has resistance to President Bush's broader anti-terror campaign. According to Pew, majorities in Spain (67 percent), France (57 percent), Canada (56 percent), Sweden (52 percent), and Germany (51 percent) "oppose the U.S.-led efforts to fight terrorism." A large plurality of Britons (49 percent) oppose such efforts. In a 2003 Pew survey, support stood at 63 percent in Spain, 60 percent in France, 68 percent in Canada, 60 percent in Germany, and 63 percent in Great Britain.

The sooner we wake-up to the fact we are a nation at War, the greater our chances of survival.

Right-now thangs sure ain't looking good and when you toss in the efforts of the Mullah's into the mix, I'll guarantee it's going to get far worse.

279 Killer Tomato  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:29:13am

Just called Madame's office.
Staffer was very polite, but very short -
"I'm calling about the King Amendment..."
"And you're calling to support it?"
"Yes I am."
"Thank you, I'll let the Speaker know."

280 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:30:35am

re: #279 Killer Tomato

Just called Madame's office.
Staffer was very polite, but very short -
"I'm calling about the King Amendment..."
"And you're calling to support it?"
"Yes I am."
"Thank you, I'll let the Speaker know."

I hope they understood correctly just what you were supporting.

281 bnichols10  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:32:13am

From RedState:

Call Democrats’ leadership before their 1 p.m. meeting today. Ask them to protect “John Doe” citizens who report terrorism and terrorist activities.

PHONE NUMBERS:

Speaker Pelosi:

Speaker’s Office: 202-225-0100

Personal Office: 202-225-4965

Homeland Security Committee Chairman Thompson:

Personal Office: 202-225-5876

Cmte Office: 202-226-2616

Rep. Van Hollen:

Personal Office: 202-225-5341

282 fatslob  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:44:40am

re: #41 Ben Hur
I can't help feeling sorry for her. She had the chance to show grace and courage when her son died, instead she took the bait and became a media whore. I'm thinking that in time she'll do a turn around and become a patriotic conservative, that would be the worst thing she could do to Nancy the soccer mom Pelosi.

283 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:45:42am

Why is anybody here surprised? Bill Clinton happily took money from Communist China in the 1990s, so why would they bat an eyelash about taking the money of the folks behind CAIR?

284 abu_garcia  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:52:48am

Well, I've e-mailed my congressman and both Senators (all Rs). I hope it does some good.

More to come if needed.

285 abu_garcia  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 9:55:28am

re: #278 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

The sooner we wake-up to the fact we are a nation at War, the greater our chances of survival.

IMO we're not at war until the unrestricted carpet-bombing starts.

286 funkyfantom  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 10:10:02am

re: #32 OldLineTexan

re: #27 OldLineTexan

"food's better".

OLT

Gotta disagree here a bit. I love Mexican food, but Arabic food can be terrific. That and their pre-seventeenth century art and architecture
is pretty much the only thing Islamic civilization has going for it.

287 thirtypundit  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 10:10:12am

OT, but here's Danny Boy!

"I'm big on personal responsibility."

- Dan Rather on MSNBC this AM

288 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 10:23:22am

re: #285 abu_garcia

We're pretty much screwed and as stated, this is about as good as it's gunna get before the, 'Going DOWN, next stop Hell!' gets shouted.

289 Strike Hornet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 10:27:06am

re: #35 JamesTKirk


They need another terrorist attack on US soil. Let me repeat that: The democrats want, need, crave, and are working to enable, another terrorist attack on US soil.

Hell, if they want another attack on America, why don't they just ask Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney to "set another one up"?
/Twoofers

290 extrabob  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 10:46:18am

#69 Desert Sage
"Your correct. In the twisted mind of the Democrat another attack on the US is the only way to prove that the Republicans can't keep us safe. So that's what they're hoping for."

The fools better look out for what they wish for. The next terror attack could well be a nuke explosion in Washington D.C.

291 ElderZionist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 10:59:11am

re: #290 extrabob

#69 Desert Sage
"Your correct. In the twisted mind of the Democrat another attack on the US is the only way to prove that the Republicans can't keep us safe. So that's what they're hoping for."

The fools better look out for what they wish for. The next terror attack could well be a nuke explosion in Washington D.C.

My wife thinks they'd have a different perspective if one of the planes had hit the Capitol building. I'm not so sure. If more Democrats were killed than Republicans, that would reinforce that it was a Republican plot. If the reverse, they'd think it was a good thing. Besides, the survivors would move up in the political food chain, and owe their new powers to the attack.

292 Keli  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:08:27am

Democrats are so out of touch with reality its scary

293 Yank in the EU  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:25:39am

"Wow, I would swear I just saw an armed Middle Eastern guy transporting a carload of explosives, but I don't want to get my ass sued and financially destroyed for 'racism against Muslims', as the Democrats say, so I'll just keep it to myself. I could be mistaken, after all."

294 godfrey  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:39:29am

The current crop of Democrats in Congress literally make me sick. Absolute, physical revulsion.

295 jimbouie  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:40:40am
135 Shane

Shane, that's exactly how I see it. Succinctly put.

jim

296 ROPMA  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:57:06am

re: #260 ElderZionist

re: #234 scottthecanuck

re: #10 dimestorenovel

how is it that the dem,s always by instinct seem to be on the wrong side of every issue in this conflict. What the h*ll is wrong with them?

Practice makes perfect.

This link explains it perfectly.

297 Outrider  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:07:14pm

Harumph! ;-)> The Democrats have enabled people to call in "tips" for everything else. Why block this?

Neighbors are encouraged to call in suspected abuse of spouses and children (and animals) in complete anonymity with no repercussions. Indeed the burden of proof if on the defendant to prove him/herself innocent.

It has reached the point that neighbors are being encouraged to inform on neighbors for ~watering~ violations, again in complete anonymity.

But something this serious? Now, all of a sudden the Democrats get to thinking about rights? What is the motivation or reasoning being used by the Democrats? The article said initially the issue was racial (again Islam is not a race) profiling. OK. What about after initially. Now what is the reasoning? Further disarming, by one means or another, the citizens of this Republic?

298 opnion  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:31:07pm

Democrats are dangerous to your health.
The government keeps on promoting "If you see something , say something"
This is a common sence provision. Dems do not like us.

299 spikester  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:33:38pm

Seems to a VETO would be in order and a press conference while the
signing was going on!

300 spikester  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:34:50pm

re: #299 spikester

Seems to (me) a VETO would be in order and a press conference while the
signing was going on!

301 astronmr20  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:11:50pm

Fox News, for their flaws, actually does seem to keep a finger on the blog pulse.

Will they be covering this hell out of this tonight?

I sure hope so.

Anyone know what's on the roster?

302 astronmr20  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:14:47pm

re: #301 astronmr20

Fox News, for their flaws, actually does seem to keep a finger on the blog pulse.

Will they be covering this hell out of this tonight?

I sure hope so.

Anyone know what's on the roster?

Tonight might be too late though. Besides, when Fox "gets it," unless Michelle is helping them out, they are usually a week or so late, ala-MSM style.

303 Outrider  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:41:38pm

Further thoughts on my post 297.

Upon reflection, it seems the Democrats are entirely comfortable if the persons being anonymously informed on are their neighbors. This is apparently desireable. But they seem to have serious reservations about informing on terrorists or common criminals (like drug dealers, etc...). This type of informing seems to be wrong in their eyes.

I still can't figure out this anomaly without having cynical thoughts as to their motives.

304 irish rose  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 2:10:56pm

re: #294 godfrey

The current crop of Democrats in Congress literally make me sick. Absolute, physical revulsion.

I could not agree more.

Seriously, people... it's long past time for those of us who "get it", and have our wits about us, to take up our pitchforks and do a *massive* march on the Capital. We need to run these putrid politicians out of town on a rail.

If we don't, they're going to lead us all straight over the edge of a cliff.

Whos' with me?

305 irish rose  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 2:37:49pm

re: #67 Joan Not of Arc

If the Democrats want to be responsible for the inevitable, let them. Then people will remember why they were voted out in the first place.
I don't want it to come to that but who am I to stop those on a path to their own destruction?

I tend to agree with you, however I'm afraid that they're going to take my children and I down the path along with them.

I can't sit idly by at allow that to happen while I still have breath... neither can you. Neither can any of of us.

Like I said, time for pitchforks.

306 mean Gene  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 6:08:04pm

Hannity and Colmes are covering this right now.
The imam, Kareem Shora, seems to think being wrong in your reporting should open you up to losing your home!
He calls doing it (and turning out to be wrong) being an "extremist!"

307 6pat6  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 7:26:27pm

Hey, Democrat Party - Fuck You.

Hey CAIR - Fuck YOU.

Hey Doogie - FUCK YOU.

There. I do feel a bit better saying that.

308 Allah  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:01:45pm

I will support the Democrats in allowing CAIR to be able to sue me...if I can be allowed to ram a hot fire poker into CAIR's collective @ss.

Yes? No?


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