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Audio: Secretly Recorded UK Jihadi Voice Chat

Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 11:00:18 am PDT

While out on bail awaiting trial, Mizanur Rahman, one of the UK Islamic extremists sentenced to six years in jail yesterday for inciting violence, reached out to fellow Muslims via voice chat.

Dr. Rusty Shackleford (via Glen Jenvey) obtained a recording of one of those chats, from July 15, 2007, and I’ve taken the liberty of converting it to MP3 format and posting it here, so that as many people as possible have a chance to hear one of these creatures speak when he doesn’t know he’s being recorded.

It’s chilling stuff, as Rahman discusses with his online audience the need for every single Muslim to take part in global jihad, in order to kill every Jew in Israel. Here’s Dr. Rusty’s post at Jawa Report for more details: What Indicted Muslim Says while out on Bail: ‘Terrorize them’, ‘Kill Jews’, ‘Support Global Jihad’.

MP3 Audio

...And now when we are facing occupation in Muslim land: in Palestine, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Kashmir, in Chechnya—all over the world occupation. And people fighting and bombing Muslims everywhere from the kuffar, from the Americans, and the British, and the Israelis. So, what must we do? Indeed, at that time when the kuffar enters the Muslim lands it is an obligation upon all Muslims—especially nowadays when it is global jihad, when the jihad is spread all over the world. Occupation has spread to every single country in the Muslim lands. When it becomes a war being declared openly to be global war affecting everybody. Now it has become such....that the jihad has become part of the [?ein] of every single Muslim.....it is [Arabic = obligation] to fight the jihad physically, financially, and verbally. All three according to your capability. Those of us that are far away from the fighting, far away and not able to reach it. Or some people have the excuse because they are disabled or they are blind or for the women, for example. Those people, maybe they have an excuse from the physical fighting, but it does not mean that we cannot support them. We can support them. We can support them verbally. We can support them [jihadis] financially. We can support them with our tongues. Incite the believers. We can tease the enemy. Anger the enemy. Promote the jihad and the mujahideen. Inform the people of their obligation. Let the kuffar know that they are not fighting a few Muslims in Beirut, or a few Muslims in Palestine, they are fighting 1.5 billion Muslims. One Ummah [Muslim nation] united.

If they fight us in Palestine, the Muslims which will anger in London. And we’re going to speak out. We’re going to condemn them. And whatever else somebody has no capability at all. No money, no even a tongue to speak he can do [Arabic=prayer] at least. The least he can do is make [prayer] for Allah to destroy them. To throw them out. Not for ... we’re not going to make [prayer] for Allah, “Oh Allah give us two countries, two states in Palestine. To give us compromise. To give us back some land in Israel, and let them have the rest.” No, we go to make [prayer] for Allah to destroy them [Israel] completely. To make [prayer] to Allah to not one of them [Jews] is left in Israel, unless they are underground [dead]. Let Allah destroy them and give victory to the Muslims, all of the Muslims, and give us all of our land back and destroy all of our enemies.

Notice the bit about supporting the jihad “with our tongues.” This is exactly the same rhetoric we heard from the Muslim Students Union at the University of California Irvine on February 1, 2007, following a disrupted speech by Daniel Pipes. Here’s our post about that event, featuring a video recording of the speech: UC Irvine: MSU Calls for Israel to Be Wiped Out.

Our weapon, our jihad, our way of struggling in this country is with our tongues. We speak out, and we deflate their morale, and this is the best we can do right now. And our brothers and sisters on the other side of the world, they’re handling business in their own way. May Allah give them strength...

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1 spikester[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:02:38am
2 fed_up  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:04:49am

Too bad the actual words of the terrorists and their stated intentions are what people usually ignore first.

3 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:04:57am

Surely idiots like Keith Olbermann of MSNBC will heed these words.

4 spikester[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:05:08am
5 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:05:20am

They support their troops more then the Democrats support ours.

6 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:06:56am

Hey, Larry King, stop doing stories on celebrities' personal struggles and focus on the more important task at hand, will ya? Because, you know, surviving is a good thing.

7 Charles  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:07:27am

By the way, posts that only contain a variation on 'FIRST!' will now be deleted. I thought the message you get when you try to post 'FIRST!' would be enough to discourage it, but apparently not.

8 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:07:51am

Well, there goes my case of the warm-and-fuzzies this afternoon.

9 Charles  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:08:13am

Posts that contain clever spellings to get around our filters on slurs will also be deleted.

10 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:08:41am

Wait, wait, I hear something. What was that? Sounds like the liberal media idiots are already marginalizing this as a tiny minority. Nothing to worry about, carry on.

11 Tricky Dick  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:09:22am

That doesn't sound any different than whats' being preached in the majority of mosques in Britian, if not mosques world wide.

12 Fjordman  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:09:41am

Jihad by the tongue is standard procedure when Muslims are not (yet) strong enough to impose their will on the infidels by brute force.

13 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:09:50am

re: #6 Milk Toast Intolerant


Lindsey Lohan's personal jihad against her inner demons affects us all.

14 Spionator  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:09:54am

(TECH) In Firefox, pressing the "new comments" button while the mp3 is still playing will abort the audio and require a reload of the page to make it appear again.

15 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:10:03am
To make [prayer] to Allah to not one of them [Jews] is left in Israel, unless they are underground [dead].

I thought the plan was to push them into the sea. They should make up their little genocidal minds.

Not that it is ever going to happen.

Note, LLL, that their goal isn't to live in peace together, but merely under Arab/Islam rule. They openly declare they want the land Jew-free, even if they're in charge. THIS is apartheid. THIS is genocide. Contrast and compare to what you accuse Israel of doing. Compare and contrast to the Arab Muslims living freely inside Israel, voting, serving in office, equal in all regards, save that they are not required to serve in the military.

16 galloping granny  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:10:19am

re: #9 Charles

Also, posts that contain clever spellings to get around our filters on slurs will also be deleted.

You ever have days you feel like you're running a zoo?

RE the tape, it would be nice if Fox would give it a little air time.

17 spikester  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:10:22am

#7 Charles

I heard THAT!

18 wvobiwan  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:10:24am

My favorite line:

"Let Allah destroy them and give victory to the Muslims, all of the Muslims, and give us all of our land back and destroy all of our enemies."

Which land is yours Islamist? Palestine? There is no Palestine dumbshit, only occupied Israel.

Also, how then does this tool explain Malaysia, Indonesia, Phillipines, Timor, Thailand, and everywhere else in the world they are invading?

Islam will soon only be practiced in Hell due to this kind of ignorant Islamic 'world view'. Someone on the last thread said that only moderate Muslims can stop the radicals - I disagree. I'm sure that if pressed, the free nations of the world can scape up 1.2 billion bullets.

19 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:10:38am

Thank God for the internet and the new media! 10 years ago, this stuff would have sailed on by. Of course, it gives the jihadi's a new weapon also but they could have it for free from CNN if they wanted.

20 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:10:57am

re: #9 Charles


Let me be the first to say thank you.

21 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:11:07am

re: #12 Fjordman

Jihad by the tongue is standard procedure when Muslims are not (yet) strong enough to impose their will on the infidels by brute force.

"And if the world continues to ignore the pink elephant in the room, we'll get more than just a few more Theo Van Goghs.

22 Dustyvet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:11:17am

re: #7 Charles

By the way, posts that only contain a variation on 'FIRST!' will now be deleted. I thought the message you get when you try to post 'FIRST!' would be enough to discourage it, but apparently not.

Thanks Charles!

23 Charles  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:11:24am

That's right -- 'new comments' does interrupt the playback. Not a bug; that's how it needs to work.

24 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:11:30am

Haven't said it in a while...

ROPMA

25 observer  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:11:47am

Hardly urprising. A horror just as great is the unwillingnes of leaders and elites in the West to acknowledge the desires in the hearts and minds of many Muslims.
They will, as usual, condemn these sentiments as coming from a small segment of "extremist" instead. They know but refuse to make the comparison to Nazi Germany, where it took the actions and acqiescence of more than a small group of extremist to build and run so vast a killing machine.

26 Victor  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:12:18am

#7 Charles 7/19/2007 11:07:27 am PDT

"By the way, posts that only contain a variation on 'FIRST!' will now be deleted."

Good decision. Thanks, Charles.

27 stuiec  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:12:51am

Pardon me for being dense, but what makes a land "Muslim land"?

I understand "Arab land," "Turkish land," etc. But, given that (for example) Sudan is a "Muslim land" and yet we see Arab Muslims killing Black African Muslims, isn't "Muslim land" a term and a concept that ought to be expunged from the Western lexicon and denounced every time it is uttered by anyone anywhere?

28 Beagle  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:12:52am

If you read jihadi literature, and now would be a good time for the so-called experts (*cough* Scheuer *cough*) to start doing it, there's three major kinds of jihad: tongue, money, and actual fighting (qital). Money being fungible, a donation to "children and families" frees up money for bomb belts and bullets. If you think about it, so-called aid money is really pension money for the families of 'martyrs.'

29 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:13:32am

re: #13 bulwrk

Lindsey Lohan's personal jihad against her inner demons affects us all.

My day would be so utterly meaningless without a dose of the latest Hollywood gossips. What's the latest fashion wear, nowadays? The Palestinian scarf?

30 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:14:20am

Jihad is just a peaceful inner struggle.

31 bosforus  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:15:51am
Or some people have the excuse because they are disabled or they are blind or for the women, for example

so does that mean that women also get handicap parking, you know, because they're so disabled?

32 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:16:14am

OT

Funny e-mail form the boss-


This is a very interesting lesson:

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter. The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer.

These were the foundations of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals

2. Conservatives

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girliemen.

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.

Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively.


Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history:

It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more liberals just to piss them off.

33 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:16:30am

I'm thinkin' his ass needs a few more 6 year sentences.

34 canadianally  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:16:40am

This guy is out on bail? Lovely. I find his idealogies just a little bit unnerving. Doubly so if he is incarcerated, free to convert others 24/7 amongst the prison population. What a fine mess we have here in the West.

35 Fjordman  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:17:02am

#21: We will become an entire civilization of Theo van Goghs if we don't permanently ban Muslim immigration and expel sharia-supporters from our lands. It's called "dhimmitude." Coming to a street near you soon.

If you live in Malmö in South Sweden, set to become the first Scandinavian city with a Muslim majority, it has already arrived:

Where Are You Then, My Friend?

Police fired warning shots after assault with knives

Some fifty policemen rushed to Rosengård following an alarm about several major violent episodes. A 20-year old man is now held under suspicion of attempting grave violence and violent riot. Several other are suspected of severe threats, or alternatively, incitement to riot.

RosengårdIt seemingly began as some trouble between various families. When the police patrols arrived the situation didn’t look critical, but emotions are in uproar, says sergeant Anders Telsing.

The riots began immediately after half past seven Sunday evening.

A 15-year old boy tried to grab a cell phone from another 15-year old boy. He refused to give the phone away — and was beaten up.

The two boys are neighbors in adjoining apartments on Ramels Road.

The victim went home to his father, who contacted the perpetrator’s parents and relatives. He was allegedly met with knives and at least one handgun.

The father fled the place, pursued by the neighbor and his relatives. “The father locked himself up in his apartment; they tried to get in. Someone mentions that they had a knife as well as a handgun and threatened him through the door’s peephole and the letterbox flap,” says Peter Lukic, police superintendent.

Someone sounded the alarm and around ten policemen arrived at the scene. Soon thereafter things calmed down.

About 45 minutes later the police intended to leave the area.

A little later a policeman activates the alarm function in his communications gear and calls for immediate backup.

Police superintendent Peter Lukic describes the situation until the alarm goes off:

“A lot of people start arriving from all sides. Bystanders talk about knives and handguns.

“A man with a knife breaks through the police line and runs toward the other family.

“I neutralize him, hold him to the ground and force him to let go of the knife at point blank.”

The man is being held, and right after one o’clock Sunday night he is arrested charged with suspicion of various severe threats.

“Then tempers heat up again. We’re obliged to get in the middle; more and more people arrive. We’re unsure about their armament. They start fighting in spite of us standing right among them.

“The situation is such that we can guarantee neither our own safety, nor that of others.”

36 wvobiwan  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:17:10am

re: #30 Dar ul Harb

Jihad is just a peaceful inner struggle.

Oh, so it's kinda like my morning dump, sans coffee? NOW it makes sense, thanks. :>D

37 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:17:26am

What was Spikester's other post deleted for?

38 fed_up  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:18:14am

#5

Sad cause its true

39 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:18:14am

Jihad by tongue? Ah, that explains a lot.

40 loppyd  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:18:30am

re: #34 canadianally

This guy is out on bail? Lovely. I find his idealogies just a little
bit unnerving. Doubly so if he is incarcerated, free to convert others
24/7 amongst the prison population. What a fine mess we have here in
the West.


Was it a Boston judge?

41 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:18:45am

Mr. Rahman -

1. I HEAR YOU

2. I UNDERSTAND YOU

3. I OPPOSE YOU TO MY DYING BREATH!

-S-

42 Ojoe  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:18:56am

I'm beyond tired of this jihadi stuff.

43 David E  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:18:58am

re: #27 stuiec

See the ground under your feet? That is Muslim land, just ask AQ.

44 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:19:05am

re: #32 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

LOL. Your boss actually sent out such an email? Any reaction from your liberal colleagues?

45 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:20:18am

re: #32 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

The world makes such perfect sense to me now.

46 spikester  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:20:38am

#37 Ed Mahmoun's Sock Puppet

Spelling variation of Muslim

47 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:20:38am

Why the need to secretly tape them?

They've been spewing this crap in England in public for over a decade.

It only matters now because of 7/7. When the Brits realized that Jews weren't the only infidels their guests were referring to.

Cherie understands.

48 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:20:39am
50 vxbush  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:22:19am

re: #48 ploome hineni

that the jihad has become part of the [?ein] of every single Muslim.....

deen=Deen (Arabic: %u062F%u064A%u0646) is an Arabic word usually translated as "way" or "path." In Islam, deen consists of living according to the laws prescribed in Qur'an.

You're making me think I need to start learning Arabic, just so I'll know what they're saying.

And I was planning on starting Hebrew next....

51 Capt_Faust  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:22:19am

This guy needs to get a big kick in the face...preferably with a pair of biker boots...

/ What a coincidence, I seem to have 2 pairs that will do the job...but then I stoop to his level...nah, I'll just tell the hooligans he was making fun of Manchester...that should do the job to this fu#ktard...

52 WriterMom  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:23:38am

Jihadis either walk the walk, or talk the talk. Both are considered equal service to Stan.

53 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:24:06am
54 Psaturn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:24:25am

I decided not to play the MP3, I think I need NOT to hear the voice of evil!

55 Psaturn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:25:19am

re: #50 vxbush

re: #48 ploome hineni


that the jihad has become part of the [?ein] of every single Muslim.....

deen=Deen (Arabic: %u062F%u064A%u0646) is an Arabic word usually translated as "way" or "path." In Islam, deen consists of living according to the laws prescribed in Qur'an.

You're making me think I need to start learning Arabic, just so I'll know what they're saying.

And I was planning on starting Hebrew next....

I think Hebrew is better! I am trying myself so I will be prepared when I go to Israel next!

56 WriterMom  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:26:12am

re: #47 Ben Hur

Why the need to secretly tape them?

Zactly. There is nothing new under the sun. These kind of recordings reinforce what we have been listening to for years-or actually, since the founding of Islam (we the Dhimmis that is). The friends of the ROP will probably think these tapes are secret Jooo Rovian Mossad Recordings. It won't convince any moonbats to come away from the dark side.

57 Psaturn  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:26:15am

Ploomie! Would you like to meet me at the lounge?

58 Victor  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:26:15am

from the translation:

"Indeed, at that time when the kuffar enters the Muslim lands it [jihad] is an obligation upon all Muslims—especially nowadays when it is global jihad, when the jihad is spread all over the world. Occupation has spread to every single country in the Muslim lands. When it becomes a war being declared openly to be global war affecting everybody. Now it has become such....that the jihad has become part of the [?ein] of every single Muslim [...] fight the jihad physically, financially, and verbally.

This is basic Islamic jihad. It's a good argument for staying out of Muslim countries and against the folly of trying to "democratize" Islamic societies. It also argues against the folly of allowing Muslims behind infidel lines. Put them together and you get -- stay out of their lands and keep them out of ours. Separation and Containment. Good fences make good neighbors. Hugh Fitzgerald and Lawrence Auster, among others, have been making a persuasive case for this strategy.

59 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:26:18am

re: #27 stuiec


If a muslim wipes his ass while he invocates the name of allah the land forever belongs to islam.

60 forrest  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:26:19am
So, what must we do? Indeed, at that time when the kuffar Muslim enters the Muslim kuffar lands it is an obligation upon all Muslims kuffar(to fight)—especially nowadays when it is global jihad, when the jihad is spread all over the world. Occupation has spread to every single country in the Muslim kuffar lands.

fixed up

61 loppyd  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:26:31am

BEN HUR!

It only matters now because of 7/7. When the Brits realized that Jews weren't the only infidels their guests were referring to.

Excellent point.

62 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:26:58am

OT -- another person caught stealing nuclear energy secrets to sell for profit. Our world is just getting so scary when our own people (this guy is not a Muslim) are willing to sell out his fellow countrymen.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

63 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:27:01am

Hmmm, for some reason, the title of the thread up in my tab is just " # comments ".

64 Killer Tomato  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:27:10am

re: #54 Psaturn

Speaking of evil.... anyone know what our Congress is up to at the moment?

65 loppyd  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:27:29am

re: #64 Killer Tomato

re: #54 Psaturn

Speaking of evil.... anyone know what our Congress is up to at the moment?

Do I dare ask?

66 David E  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:28:06am

Now it is #comments#comments isn't it.

67 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:28:16am

" this is the best we can do right now. "

Right now, implying they will be taking a more aggressive role later.

68 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:28:16am

re: #64 Killer Tomato


recovering from their pajama party.

69 Capt_Faust  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:28:29am

re: #27 stuiec

Pardon me for being dense, but what makes a land "Muslim land"?

At this point in time I seem to believe that it is any land that happens to hold residence any partitioner of isLAm, or any muslim passing through...at least that is what the rhetoric is...add to the fact that if it was Jewish or Christian land and was conquered, it is now Muslim land...if it was disputed land (Spain and the Moors) and taken over by Christians or Jews, it is still "muslim" land...

/That leaves Lithuania and those new islands that sprouted up in the Pacific, that are not "muslim" lands...

70 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:28:33am
71 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:29:23am
72 Killer Tomato  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:29:36am

re: #65 loppyd

loppyd -
Sorry - it wasn't I rhetorical - I wondered if anyone had any updates.

73 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:29:52am
74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:30:29am

Posted on an earlier thread:

HAMAS:'Israel, Abbas plan to kill our leaders'

Gee, ya think?

75 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:30:48am

Oh. A couple of times I worked around Charles ban on things like the name of a large arboreal animal combined with a generic term for a body extension from either the upper or lower trunk, which the code simply turned into "Muslim", by inserting some dummy HTML, like an underline tag, that LGF didn't accept, but then I figured, if Charles goes to the effort to keep words like that out of the posts, my creative work-arounds are only gonna get him mad, and he is the captain of this cruiseship, while I am only one of the more useful passengers to have around in case of bad weather.


Wouldn't want to have to row back to Barbados in a life-raft, if you follow the analogy.

76 Fjordman  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:30:48am
Put them together and you get -- stay out of their lands and keep them out of ours. Separation and Containment. Good fences make good neighbors. Hugh Fitzgerald and Lawrence Auster, among others, have been making a persuasive case for this strategy.

This strategy is called separationism, and I'm very much in favor of it.

77 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:31:25am

re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir),

Hopefully they'll kill more than just the leaders.

78 Killer Tomato  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:31:27am

double sorry -
it wasn't rhetorical - I wondered if anyone had any updates.

pimf.....

Hey Charles, now that we have spell check, can we get grammer check? Or how about 'what I meant to say' check?

79 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:31:35am

What makes a land Muslim land?

Let's go to the Toddler Rules to gain a better idea.

1. If I like it, it's mine.

2. If it's in my hand, it's mine.

3. If I can take it from you, it's mine.

4. If I had it a little while ago, it's mine.

5. If it's mine, it must NEVER appear to be yours in anyway.

6. If I'm doing or building something, all the pieces are mine.

7. If it looks just like mine, it is mine.

8. If I saw it first, it's mine.

80 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:31:54am

Yup, now double " # comments " in the tab.

81 zmdavid  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:31:55am
82 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:32:42am

re: #49 Carl in Jerusalem

I'll see that and raise you. Ahmadinejad and Nasrallah met in Syria.

"Iran and Syria are allies and will remain allies," Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told Syrian President Bashar Assad as the two met in Damascus on Thursday evening.

According to Ahmadinejad, Iran and Syria "are united against the enemies of the two countries and the region."

Messengers of evil. United in hatred of the West and absolutely committed to destroying Israel. Hizbullah will be on the front lines of that fight, and if Hamas wants a piece of the action, Syria and Iran will be sure to oblige.

83 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:33:05am
84 Daisy  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:33:34am

I'm sort of surprised he referred to Israel as Israel. This indicates he's not in complete denial of reality - which only compounds the evil he spouts.

85 Rootless Cosmo  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:34:19am

The bad guys keep making it clear: it's them or it's us. When will we hear it, understand it and act on it?

Condolences to the family and friends of General Downing; he understood.

86 Sceptic Tank  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:34:25am

These Islamic larvae are generational incarnation of the ongoing historical pogrom against Jews and Christians in The Mid East and now the worldwide theater. This article in The American Thinker illustrates the truly ludicrous behavior that must be addressed today.

Although the Arab-Israeli conflict, combined with the end of French colonial rule in North Africa, may have served as catalysts for this mass exodus, these phenomena were antedated by a more powerful underlying dynamic set in motion during the 19th century era of Western colonization. Historians Bat Ye'or and Norman Stillman have highlighted the profound political and psychosocial impact of the West's penetration into the Islamic world through the 19th and 20th centuries, which undermined (at least temporarily, and in part) the prevailing system of dhimmitude...
87 Mike C.  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:34:48am

re: #63 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Yup.

88 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:35:21am
89 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:36:11am
90 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:36:16am

OT:

Anyone know how easy this is to do?

Swedish woman gets superfast Internet

STOCKHOLM, Sweden - She is a latecomer to the information superhighway, but 75-year-old Sigbritt Lothberg is now cruising the Internet with a dizzying speed. Lothberg's 40 gigabits-per-second fiber-optic connection in Karlstad is believed to be the fastest residential uplink in the world, Karlstad city officials said.

In less than 2 seconds, Lothberg can download a full-length movie on her home computer — many thousand times faster than most residential connections, said Hafsteinn Jonsson, head of the Karlstad city network unit.

Jonsson and Lothberg's son, Peter, worked together to install the connection.

The speed is reached using a new modulation technique that allows the sending of data between two routers placed up to 1,240 miles apart, without any transponders in between, Jonsson said.

"We wanted to show that that there are no limitations to Internet speed," he said.

Peter Lothberg, who is a networking expert, said he wanted to demonstrate the new technology while providing a computer link for his mother.

"She's a brand-new Internet user," Lothberg said by phone from California, where he lives. "She didn't even have a computer before."

His mother isn't exactly making the most of her high-speed connection. She only uses it to read Web-based newspapers.

91 loppyd  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:36:34am

re: #88 ploome hineni

pilosi is having her botox treatent, and then has a 1:00 o'clock at the manicurist

She looks perpetually shocked.

92 vxbush  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:36:39am

re: #79 Silhouette

What makes a land Muslim land?

Let's go to the Toddler Rules to gain a better idea.

1. If I like it, it's mine.
2. If it's in my hand, it's mine.
3. If I can take it from you, it's mine.
4. If I had it a little while ago, it's mine.
5. If it's mine, it must NEVER appear to be yours in anyway.
6. If I'm doing or building something, all the pieces are mine.
7. If it looks just like mine, it is mine.
8. If I saw it first, it's mine.

You know, a lot can be learned by watching toddler behavior. It does, however, clearly demonstrate the lack of advances in socialization in the Muslim culture. That, and their general predilection for death.

93 miamitech  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:38:07am

no more firsties? :-(

94 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:38:37am

re: #79 Silhouette
You've been to my wifes daycare ,haven't you.

By the way Charles,
Thanks for this one!
But it broke my "WTF,Crock-o-Shit-o-Meter"
These people need to cease brething...Period!

95 vxbush  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:38:44am

re: #93 miamitech

no more firsties? :-(

And no more walkies, Gromit.

96 MrMom  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:39:04am

re: #36 wvobiwan

re: #30 Dar ul Harb


Jihad is just a peaceful inner struggle.

Oh, so it's kinda like my morning dump, sans coffee? NOW it makes sense, thanks. :>D

ROTFF! One of life's great pleasures. ;^) aaahhhhhhh....

97 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:40:06am

re: #90 njdhockeyfan


The US has the slowest internet speed in the world.

98 sakublock  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:40:23am

Sound rather desperate to me. Oh poor Islam, Oh poor muslims blah blah, we are oppressed, victim blah blah...

99 miamitech  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:40:25am

re: #95 vxbush

Its OK I got first before so at least I can say I did it :-)
"when it was allowed"

100 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:41:20am
101 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:41:28am
102 miamitech  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:41:59am

re: #100 ploome hineni

no can do, this is THE blog!

103 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:44:53am

re: #94 reloadingisnotahobby

You've been to my wifes daycare ,haven't you.

Dang, how young is your wife?

;-0

104 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:45:23am

re: #97 Ben Hur

I have dial up at home. Talk about slow.

105 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:45:34am

re: #88 ploome hineni


Can they botox her mouth shut?

106 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:46:11am

re: #103 Silhouette

that's Funny !
I'll have to share it with her when gets up from her nappy!
LOL

107 Dayenu  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:52:12am

#92 vxbush

Heh, well, you know, according to the Muslims, everyone is born a Muslim. Some people are taught false information by their parents, and become other religions... Christians and Jews and Buddhists... but they stay in the true religion of Islam. And convert to Islam are not called converts, but reverts.

From my studies of Islam, I think there may be something to this belief. Consider this: all people are born as stupid, spoiled, emotionally-driven, obnoxious children. Most cultures teach their children to grow up, take responsibility, and be adults. Islam keeps them in that infantile status all their lives. See?

Maybe this explains the liberal-Muslim alliance also... the trust fund babies may like Islam for the same reason...

108 moebius[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:52:25am
109 Idle Drifter  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:53:31am

DO these people realize that they can only fool some but not all? SPEAK and FUND now, FIGHT later when in a position of strength. Fine, all the more time to gather evidence.

110 So?  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:56:00am

OT

Someone recently sent me this site defending their position how Israel destroyed 400 palestinian settlements: according to this site they call it the al-Nakba. Knowing how arab propagandists are very good at disseminating misinformation and lies, I was wondering if anyone out there knows about this. How true is it and is there somewhere I can find info to rebut this argument.

I'd appreciate it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Link: www.jerusalemites.org...]

More than 400 Palestinian villages were destroyed --in its entirety or partially-- by Zionist gangs as part of a programmed plan of uprooting native Palestinians from their homeland, Palestine, and breaking new ground for a bizarre colonial project called Israel, which the
days of its first stage were closing in on that awful year of 1948.
 
Few researchers, and historians, Palestinians and Israelis, have attempted to document this tragic chapter of al-Nakba (catastrophe). Among Palestinians were Aref El-Aref who prepared shortly in the aftermath of 1948 war a list of villages occupied and its Arab citizens were forced to leave in the course of battles.

111 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:56:24am

re: #109 Idle Drifter

DO these people realize that they can only fool some but not all? SPEAK and FUND now, FIGHT later when in a position of strength. Fine, all the more time to gather Large quantities fo munitions great and small!
blockquote>

Fixed it for ya!

112 MrMom  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 11:57:07am

re: #93 miamitech

no more firsties? :-(

Landed a "firstie" on my first post. Never tried again...how could it get any better? Like havin' your cake and eatin' it, too!

/gotta know when to walk away...

113 dadofseven  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:04:37pm

re: #112 MrMom

Is that like knowing when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em?

114 wvobiwan  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:05:59pm

re: #58 Victor

from the translation:

"Indeed, at that time when the kuffar enters the Muslim lands it [jihad] is an obligation upon all Muslims—especially nowadays when it is global jihad, when the jihad is spread all over the world. Occupation has spread to every single country in the Muslim lands. When it becomes a war being declared openly to be global war affecting everybody. Now it has become such....that the jihad has become part of the [?ein] of every single Muslim [...] fight the jihad physically, financially, and verbally.

This is basic Islamic jihad. It's a good argument for staying out of Muslim countries and against the folly of trying to "democratize" Islamic societies. It also argues against the folly of allowing Muslims behind infidel lines. Put them together and you get -- stay out of their lands and keep them out of ours. Separation and Containment. Good fences make good neighbors. Hugh Fitzgerald and Lawrence Auster, among others, have been making a persuasive case for this strategy.

Unfortunately, that approach is entirely wrong. Even if there was not one Muslim in free countries, or one non-Mulsim in 'Islamic' nations, Islam would STILL REQUIRE OUR DEATHS.

That kind of isolationist thinking is dangerous. Just ask the Israelis.

115 moebius  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:10:57pm

It's very obvious that Jihad is not an internal struggle. It is not always violent, but it always an external struggle to gain dominance and make others submit (submission and not peace is the true root of the word Islam).

Jihad with out tongues. Jihad with our lawyers. Jihad comes in many flavors, but it is always subversive, anti-social and ultimately pathological.

116 Bubbaman  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:18:27pm

Why is every [bigoted word] behavior about unrequited goat sex?

117 Idle Drifter  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:19:22pm

re: #111 reloadingisnotahobby

Quiet, they have to believe they're in a position to strike before we nail the coffin shut.

118 opnion  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:24:09pm

What a wordsmith.
He prays to his god to destro other people. He comes by it honestly.
The god of the Koran is a petty, jealous, insecure ,psycho.
Also notice he says something to the effect of teasing the Brits. That is a big deal in their culture. That is why it is imortant to mock and laugh at them. Look at the reaction by CAIR & others about the ridicule toward Rage Boy.
So pour youself an adult beverage and mock away!

119 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:24:15pm
120 Victor  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:44:58pm

#114 wvobiwan 7/19/2007 12:05:59 pm PDT

:Unfortunately, that approach [Separationism] is entirely wrong. Even if there was not one Muslim in free countries, or one non-Mulsim in 'Islamic' nations, Islam would STILL REQUIRE OUR DEATHS."

True. It would, however, greatly reduce (though not eliminate) Muslim opportunities to harm us. Don't you agree a reduced Muslim presence in infidel lands would make us infidels safer? Don't you agree a reduced infidel presence in Muslim lands would reduce the Islamic call to jihad? Keep in mind the goal is to reduce the Islamic threat, since it can never be eliminated entirely. It could only be eliminated entirely by eliminating Muslims entirely, and that is not within our power to do, nor is it an ethical option.

We do have the power to reduce the Muslim presence in America, and we have the power to reduce our presence in their lands. It makes sense to pursue these realistic and practical goals to reduce the Islamic threat. It is a piece of Liberal folly to base our defense on turning Muslims into liberals. Not only is that not going to happen, but it puts all the power for our defense in Muslim hands -- only if they are able to reform are we made any safer. Plus it's inspiring them with homicidal fury to ram a "democracy" down their throats that they don't want and are incapable of achieving. They want Islam. Let them have it.

Current strategy is another piece of Liberal folly on stilts, like so much else of the Bush agenda.

121 just another four-letter word  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:49:15pm

re: #90 njdhockeyfan

40Gb per second? Easy to do with the right equipment - but horribly expensive at this point in time. This was a "test" for some network uber-geeks, apparently.

Geez, *I'd* love to have an OC92 to MY house too, but the monthly connection bill would be more than the yearly electric bill for my neighborhood, because the ISP's charge out the yingyang for that kind of data pipe. Working as a network engineer for a tier-1 internet provider showed me just how much fun a large pipe can be, but who needs it? Anything over 8Mb/sec is really wasteful, IMHCO, unless you are Charles and have half a gazillion people talking to your server in your basement every day. That's what server farms are for, BTW...

JAFLW

122 just another four-letter word  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:53:02pm

re: #97 Ben Hur

re: #90 njdhockeyfan


The US has the slowest internet speed in the world.

No, it would be more accurate to say that the US has the OLDEST internet in the world. After all, it was invented here. We have the oldest infrastructure in the world, others who come after us see what was before, and make plans for the after. Japan has the largest/fastest fiber network in the world simply becasue they were willing to tear out the copper and put in the glass...

JAFLW

123 mean Gene  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 12:57:24pm

Fjordman's #35 post shows yet another example of primitive gangster types who use text messaging to overpower the infidels even when the police respond.
Will Rosengård or Malmo become filled with ''no-go zones,'' a la Paris?
Or will the police get a handle on this horrid situation and control or deport these thugs?
Does Sweden join the list of so-called muslim lands?

124 So?  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:01:42pm

#119 ploome hineni 7/19/2007 12:24:15 pm PDT
re: #110 So?

they call a camp site a village


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ploome, would you know where I can go to dig up info to refute that website. It's something personal. Also anyone else with info, please let me know.

125 off with my head[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:07:03pm
126 peck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:14:50pm

Charles,
I commend your re-iteration of the rules of this blog. The civilized path is not always the easiest, but is one to which we should continue to aspire. However, I would say that it is becoming increasingly difficult to maintain proper decorum in the face of all of this revealing information. Commenting here and staying within your more-than-reasonable boundaries is becoming an exercise in self-discipline for those of us inclined to emotional, and sadly, sometimes profane reactions. It's like a contest with oneself. Builds character. Thanks for looking out for our spiritual well-being.
Meanwhile, it is pretty cool that the representatives of the ROP keep blowing their cover. They just need to keep talking where we can all hear. Eventually the 13 colonies could no longer abide the oppression and hypocrisy of the English crown and the reaction was more than street corner debates. There are few, if any, people who speak or act on behalf of Islam in any way that succeed an anything beyond pissing everybody else off. Just wondering how far it will go before the polite discussions are the least of the subjects on LGF and other civilized venues.

127 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:15:17pm
128 Joel  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:29:01pm

re: #7 Charles

By the way, posts that only contain a variation on 'FIRST!' will now be deleted. I thought the message you get when you try to post 'FIRST!' would be enough to discourage it, but apparently not.

Thank you Charles!

129 Joel  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:31:47pm

Nothing like hearing genocide being preached with a British accent.

130 Sabraguy  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:49:02pm
Let the kuffar know that they are not fighting a few Muslims in Beirut, or a few Muslims in Palestine, they are fighting 1.5 billion Muslims. One Ummah [Muslim nation] united.

Europe + USA: 1 billion
China: 1.27 billion
India: 1 billion

That's a lot of kuffars, dickhead. I think we've got you outnumbered. And outnuked.

131 doubledip  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:51:34pm

Waiting for any Muslims/fatwas out there to condemn these guys of hirabah instead of jihad....

//not holding breath

132 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 1:55:24pm

re: #129 Joel

Nothing like hearing genocide being preached with a British accent.

yes, hearing these bums w/ english and scottish accents is always shocking.

133 DP111  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 2:42:57pm
LISBON (Reuters) - Kosovo will get independence from Serbia "one way or another" despite Russia's objections at the United Nations, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said on Thursday.

The United States is increasingly frustrated with Moscow's refusal to agree on a U.N. resolution that would lead to Kosovo's independence from Russian ally Serbia, leading to suggestions it will explore taking action outside the 15-member Security Council.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070719/wl_nm/kosovo_u sa_dc

Depressing stuff. Yet again we have the US government taking sides with Islamic interests.

134 mean Gene  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 2:54:54pm
Now it has become such....that the jihad has become part of the [?ein] of every single Muslim.....it is [Arabic = obligation] to fight the jihad physically, financially, and verbally. All three according to your capability.

If you listen closely, it appears he uses Fard Ayn here. It used to be considered OK if the community coughed up one jihadi every so often, but he is moving that over to the category of obligation for all. These ''leaders'' are tough on everybody but themselves.

Fard Kifayah: an obligation on the community as a whole.

Fard Ayn: obligatory upon everyone individually.

135 Confuzed  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 3:00:21pm
Our weapon, our jihad, our way of struggling in this country is with our tongues. We speak out, and we deflate their morale, and this is the best we can do right now.

Fair enough - a Muslim terrorist's thought process.

Two can play at that game - a non-yielding Infidel's thought process.

Our amusement, our fun, our way of laughing in this world is with our tongues. We speak out, and we enrage their sensibilities, and this is the start of what we can do right now.

OT: iSlam is incompatible with almost every Article of the the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Where is the liberal outrage and why the exemptions for MoHamHeads?

Is the word 'laughter' even once mentioned in the 'ran?

136 Trumanite  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 3:07:06pm

Democrats actually spiked the John Doe proposal in committee.

This should be the next thing shoved high and hard up the backside of congress.

Harry Reid needs to wake up tomorrow to find this lodged somewhere near his transverse colon ("graphic" graphic warning).

This is as big a deal as shamnesty.

137 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 3:14:49pm
138 DP111  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 3:24:03pm

re: #76 Fjordman

As you know, for years I thought that an Exchange of populations would be the best way forward, an exchange of Christians in Muslim lands for Muslims in the West. I thought that this was the best policy, as repatriation or mass deportation was akin to ethnic cleansing, and many in the West would not accept that, besides being a clear violation of all laws, both national and international. Exchange of populations OTH, is internationally acceptable, specially when two cultures are not reconcilable. Unfortunately, that policy option is no more, as Christians in Muslim lands are being chased out.

This leaves only the repatriation or deportation option available, carried out in a humane a way. Unfortunately, we havnt got to that stage yet. To get to that stage, it is still necessary to stay on in Iraq for various reasons, two of which are

1. It has to be be shown to the vast majority in US and Europe, that despite our best efforts, blood and treasure, a liberal and tolerant democracy in an Islamic state, if Muslims are given real freedom to choose, is not possible.

2. The other reason to stay on in Iraq or Afghanistan, is that the longer we stay, the more it "incites" the Muslim population in Britain and the US. This then leads to more incidents of terrorism in the West. The more we have of this, the sooner the general population will come to the realisation, that Muslims cannot be loyal to anything except Islam and the Ummah, as this Jihadi quite openly states, and thus bring about the necessity for a separation from all things Islamic.

There are other reasons to stay on in Iraq for the moment, but are best left unstated.

139 littleoldlady  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 3:48:40pm

re: #49 Carl in Jerusalem

OT - Israel Television: Olmert discussed final status arrangements with Abu Mazen

Who gets to vote on what Olmert is giving away?

/he makes me appreciate our Constitution and right to IMPEACH more and more every single day.

140 So?  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 4:14:23pm

re: #127 ploome hineni

Thanks Ploome!

141 Tazzerman  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 4:15:17pm

re: #32 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

OT

Funny e-mail form the boss-


This is a very interesting lesson:

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter. The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer.

These were the foundations of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals

2. Conservatives

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girliemen.

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.

Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively.


Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history:

It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it. A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more liberals just to piss them off.

OMG! I just ruined my monitor, keyboard AND my pants.... :) -tm

142 Tazzerman  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 4:18:23pm

re: #138 DP111

Exactly and well put! -tm

143 EE  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 4:43:02pm

Mizanur Rahman is even now inciting Muslims to global jihad, with an unsatisfiable appetite for grabbing land, and for destroying all residents of those lands, and to "destroy all of our enemies" (which, following Qutb's definition means all infidels), and specifically to destroy all Jews living in Israel.

I hope that upon the end of his term in jail for his previous offenses of incitement, that new charges will be brought against him for his present offenses.

144 EtNorskTroll  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 4:59:26pm
***ATTENTION LGF WATCH!***

See how Charles 'cherry picks' from what innocent Muslims say when they don't know they are being recorded?

See how Charles tries to twist what this peaceful Muslim is saying?

See how Charles exposes this rat for the violent animal he is?

Aren't you going to do something about this, LGF Watch?

Aren't you going to tell the world about what Charles is doing here?!?

For the love of God, LGF Watch: Think of the children, for once in your life, and report what Charles is doing here!

~Norsk Troll

145 EtNorskTroll  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 5:09:33pm

re: #126 peck

Charles,
I commend your re-iteration of the rules of this blog. The civilized path is not always the easiest, but is one to which we should continue to aspire. However, I would say that it is becoming increasingly difficult to maintain proper decorum in the face of all of this revealing information. Commenting here and staying within your more-than-reasonable boundaries is becoming an exercise in self-discipline for those of us inclined to emotional, and sadly, sometimes profane reactions. It's like a contest with oneself. Builds character. Thanks for looking out for our spiritual well-being.
Meanwhile, it is pretty cool that the representatives of the ROP keep blowing their cover. They just need to keep talking where we can all hear. Eventually the 13 colonies could no longer abide the oppression and hypocrisy of the English crown and the reaction was more than street corner debates. There are few, if any, people who speak or act on behalf of Islam in any way that succeed an anything beyond pissing everybody else off. Just wondering how far it will go before the polite discussions are the least of the subjects on LGF and other civilized venues.

They're going to overplay their hand, Peck, and the fallout (sorry for the pun) will be catastrophic.

Just a matter of time, now.

~Norsk Troll

146 DP111  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 5:10:56pm

re: #142 Tazzerman

The unfortunate consequence of the above, is that the enemy will attack us, and that there will be casualties. That is a consquence of war. We just have to accept it as stoically as possible.

In this war the enemy are the Muslim Jihadis who live within the protective environment of the Muslim population in the West. That is the nature of this war - that it is asymmetric, it gives the enemy a great advantage. However, most do not realise, in fact none that I know, that we also are waging an asymmetric war, and ours is the far more deadly.

However, to win the war, we have to stay in Iraq until such time that it is shown that Islam is ireconcilable with a free society, and thus make it politically possible for separation from Islam. That should be the real object of the war. It is ofcourse best left unstated or misstated as "a war to bring democracy to Muslim lands" - it is even better if our leaders actually believe that to be the case.

147 Goosio  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 5:52:29pm

Now I know what garbage sounds like.

148 BabbaZee  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 5:52:58pm

If We Don't Call Them Names, the Terrorists Win



The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
~ James 3:6

Tongue

149 hiker  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 6:10:47pm

re: #5 bulwrk

They support their troops more then the Democrats support ours.

Sad, but true.

150 hiker  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 6:18:19pm

re: #35 Fjordman

Whatever became of the vaunted and fearless Vikings? Sad times, these.

151 hiker  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 6:27:53pm

I'm seeing more and more burqas and islamic garb in general around the Chicago area. And their wearers are getting, shall I say, "pushy." There's a park with a tennis court right near my house. I've noticed lately that a whole group of islamic-garbed folks are staking it out in the evening. And they are not playing tennis. They're just parking their asses on the court. Assimilation? Give me a f*****g break.

152 hiker  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 6:30:12pm

re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Posted on an earlier thread:

HAMAS:'Israel, Abbas plan to kill our leaders'

Gee, ya think?


One can only hope.

153 alteredbeat  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 8:43:19pm

Bring it on, scum.

154 fuseman  Thu, Jul 19, 2007 10:19:43pm
We speak out, and we deflate their morale, and this is the best we can do right now.


until we can get nukes.

155 Spionator  Sat, Jul 21, 2007 3:52:41am

re: #56 WriterMom

re: #47 Ben Hur

Why the need to secretly tape them?

Zactly. There is nothing new under the sun. These kind of recordings reinforce what we have been listening to for years-or actually, since the founding of Islam (we the Dhimmis that is). The friends of the ROP will probably think these tapes are secret Jooo Rovian Mossad Recordings. It won't convince any moonbats to come away from the dark side.

Where does this recording come from?

Is the possibility to obtain more such recordings worth keeping the source secret?

When publishing the source, balance the possibility of recruiting lonely jihadis to that conversation against the possibility of an infidel stampede in the chatroom.


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