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Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 7:22:57 am PDT

It’s becoming a real trend for mainstream media to present the very worst radical Islamic nutjobs as legitimate scholars, to whom we need to pay careful attention.

In the latest disgusting example, here’s the spiritual leader of Hizballah, Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, brought to you by the Washington Post and Newsweek: On Faith: Muslims Speak Out Blog.

Of course, this rabid Islamist wants us all to believe that jihad is a peaceful inner struggle. Except when it’s about Jew-killing.

(Hat tip: reelcobra.)

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1 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:24:46am

Because only Bin Ladin is a terrorist.

2 Milk Toast Intolerant  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:24:47am

The ignorance and stupidity of Western media outlets are nauseating.

3 madisonsfriend  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:25:15am

But isn't the real news that Lindsay Lohan had cocaine in her pocket during her arrest?

4 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:27:12am
Jihad in Islam (The violent confrontation of the enemy) is the fighting movement that aims at preventing the enemy from forcing its hegemony over the land and the people by means of violence that confiscates freedom, kills the people, usurps the wealth and prevents the people's rights in self-determination and running their own affairs.

PR.

5 Milk Toast Intolerant  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:27:31am

Jihadi #1: Hey, infidels, we want to kill you.

Politically Correct Westerner: You don't mean that, but if you did, I won't judge you. You're just a tiny minority of the 1.4 billion Muslims in the world.

Jihadi #2: We will wage jihad against you sons of apes and pigs. We will fight you to the last man for the glory of Allah.

Politically Correct Westerner: I denounce you in the strongest of terms, but err, come to think of it, would you like to sit down and talk? Maybe tell us your grievances and we'll try to work it out? Whatever it is, I'm sure we're just as much to blame for your unhappiness.

Jihadi #3,4,5,6,7,8, etc.: Jihad is prescribed to us and we embrace it just like the Prophet Muhammad taught us.

Politically Correct Westerner: What was that? I'm sorry, I was watching the documentary Sicko by Michael Moore. Did you say something?

[mushroom]

6 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:27:54am
7 Wisenheimer  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:28:56am

I refuse to read websites that:

a) Make you watch a commercial before you can read the article.

b) Features moving ads that obscure the article, forcing you to close the ad.

8 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:30:49am

Islam; Just an excitable boy.

9 Milk Toast Intolerant  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:31:20am

All together now: jihad is about peaceful inner struggles.

Repeat.

10 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:31:46am
11 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:32:55am
12 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:33:22am

Yeah, Jihad.. that's like muslim for friend.. brought to you by the religion of piss.

13 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:34:57am

This isn't news.

Harry Potter in Israel is news.

14 Ginn  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:36:12am

Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah:

First: there is the veil, which is a religious obligation that calls for the covering of the body with the exception of the face, the palms and the feet. This is because Islam does not want the woman and the man to be influenced by the sexual drive, in order to maintain chastity, since the woman has been treated throughout its history as being more of a sexual stimulant than the man. And this is what we notice in the art and media domains that try to present the woman as a sexual stimulant, especially to the teenagers.

I'm a sexual stimulant, she says as she takes a sip of Breve, one shot espresso.

15 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:36:13am

It's all a peaceful inner struggle until someone goes against the precepts of Islam, in which case the Islamist must whine, seethe, and engage in violence, carnage, and the not-so-inner spiritual journey jihad.

Oh, and what would Islamic rage boy say to this?

16 psaturn  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:37:21am

I guess by making them more "moderates" they hope the radicals would become more moderate?

The odd thing is that they love to radicalize Evangelical Christianity and make them more radical than mainstream.

17 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:37:29am

So, like if I shake hands with a Muslim woman, I might get turned on?

18 jcm  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:37:37am

So one can surmise that when a jeep full of gas drive into an airport terminal bursting into flames the driver was distracted by his inner struggle?

19 vxbush  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:37:41am

You know, I woke up in a really happy mood. I had a lovely rabbit in my back yard, looking so peaceful and wholesome.

And then I see the ugliness rampant in the world, and all I want to do is go back home and find that rabbit.

20 Ginn  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:38:33am

Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah:

On our part, we do not believe that the moderate veil, that does not involve covering the face, represents a problem to the woman that hinders her practice of her cultural, social, political and economic commitments.

I would like to add, jokingly, that all men in the world, especially civil servants and high officials, are committed to the veil, since they cover all their bodies except their heads, where as the women also veil their breasts and their sexual organs, depending on the concept of sexual excitation that is broader in the Islamic view than the western one.

The Concept Of Sexual Excitement.

21 jcm  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:38:37am

re: #17 baconeatingkaffir

So, like if I shake hands with a Muslim woman, I might get turned on?

No, if you see a hair on her head the invisible hair rays go straight to your crotch, and short circuit your brain.

22 grumpy old codger  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:38:47am

"...wants moslems to sign peace agreements..."
- M. H. Fadlallah

Of course, we can cut out the foreplay of having peace until they are strong enough to impose their will or we can convert now or start paying the protection money the quran calls for.
Ican't/don't/won't/wouldn't trust this guy or any of the others. Lying in defense of islam and lying to expand islam are both acceptable practices found in the quran.
I'm afraid the only lasting peace will be one that is imposed on them by force.

23 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:39:38am

WHY DOES THE 'MUSLIMS SPEAK OUT' BANNER ON TOP OF THE NEWSWEEK SITE SHOW THE TEMPLE MOUNT FROM JERUSALEM AND NOT THE KABAA FROM MECAA?

24 jcm  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:40:47am

re: #22 grumpy old codger

"...wants moslems to sign peace agreements..."
- M. H. Fadlallah

Of course, we can cut out the foreplay of having peace until they are strong enough to impose their will or we can convert now or start paying the protection money the quran calls for.
Ican't/don't/won't/wouldn't trust this guy or any of the others. Lying in defense of islam and lying to expand islam are both acceptable practices found in the quran.
I'm afraid the only lasting peace will be one that is imposed on them by force.

Yep! Hitler sign agreements with Chamberlain and Stalin.

25 Kerr Avon  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:41:15am

OT

Freed Bulgarian is starting to detail his torture.

link

26 Ginn  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:41:16am

Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah:

To sum up, the woman in Islam is a full human being, and the legal exceptions are a result of the physiological and physical differences between the two sexes.

Interesting, she says as she covers her breasts and sexual organs with a veil.

27 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:44:37am
28 vxbush  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:44:53am

re: #23 Ben Hur

WHY DOES THE 'MUSLIMS SPEAK OUT' BANNER ON TOP OF THE NEWSWEEK SITE SHOW THE TEMPLE MOUNT FROM JERUSALEM AND NOT THE KABAA FROM MECAA?

You don't really think that the Kabaa is the most important thing in Islam, do you? Blaming the Jews for everything is. Hence blaming them for not owning Israel, identified by the Temple Mount and whatever unholiness is upon it.

But you knew that...

29 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:45:01am

They're so fooking peaceful, why do we even have to ask the question?
We need to devout media to the flying Quakers, the council on American Mormon relations and Zorastophobia

30 Milk Toast Intolerant  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:45:10am

re: #23 Ben Hur

WHY DOES THE 'MUSLIMS SPEAK OUT' BANNER ON TOP OF THE NEWSWEEK SITE SHOW THE TEMPLE MOUNT FROM JERUSALEM AND NOT THE KABAA FROM MECAA?

Every inch of Israel belongs to Islam, dontcha know.

31 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:45:49am

re: #23 Ben Hur

It's a stock footage for a stock Islamist response, with a stock claim on the Temple Mount despite it being only the third holiest spot - behind Mecca and Medina. That is most curious.

Why no picture of the Kaaba? Simply because they're tying the Islamist claims to Jerusalem...

32 Milk Toast Intolerant  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:46:06am
Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah:

To sum up, the woman in Islam is a full human being, and the legal exceptions are a result of the physiological and physical differences between the two sexes.

re: #26 Ginn

Interesting, she says as she covers her breasts and sexual organs with a veil.

LMAO

33 turn  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:46:26am

"To those we say that their inhuman brutal actions have nothing everything to do with Islam whatsoever, and that what they are doing will lead to God's wrath and not His satisfaction."

Muhammad, you've got to start doing a better job correcting this BS the MSM infidels are publishing ...

34 FightingBack  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:46:45am

re: #30 Milk Toast Intolerant
Every inch of Israel belongs to Islam, dontcha know.


Every inch of everywhere.

35 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:47:36am

It ain't the third holiest spot to Shi'ites, the sect that this "cleric" belongs to.

I thought that was made clear with the Iraq War.

The "holy city" of this.

The "holy city" of that.

It's no where near the 3rd holiest site.

36 NoSubmission  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:48:17am

Newsweak is the 1,987,099,870th holiest site in Islam.

37 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:49:44am

re: #35 Ben Hur

I think they meant "Holeyist city to islam" judging on all the ieds and artillary and whatnot. What difference a simple typo can make!

38 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:52:15am

I'm sorry but it's absolute BS.

Imagine if someone started saying today that the Colusseum wasn't really built by the Romans.

And in 30 years it was considered a legitimate position.

Replacement theology.

Replacement history.

39 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:54:36am

re: #3 madisonsfriend

But isn't the real news that Lindsay Lohan had cocaine in her pocket during her arrest?

It's just a matter of time before this idiot does some jail time.

Also, the paparazzi caught Britney Spears trying to drive off with her kid sitting on her lap. I can't wait until CPS takes her kid away.
Dimbulb.

40 BartlebyTheScrivener  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 7:57:44am

Hypocritical buffoons such as Fadlallah are vile. How on the one hand can someone justify and support an armed resistance movement against the state of Israel while claiming jihad is an internal struggle to be a good muslim and not a call to arms against anyone who isn't muslim?

I don't get these vile morons.

41 madisonsfriend  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 8:01:13am

re: #39 Ward Cleaver

42 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 8:01:17am

How will the WaPo spin it when the crescent goes up atop the Capitol building?

43 yochanan  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 8:01:19am

after i flush the koran (book of al satan) my bathroom will be a muslim holy site

44 opnion  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 8:02:10am

Why oh why does the media treat these guys as if they are rational people that we can learn from?
They are barbaric savages. (I of course mean that "small minority")

45 madisonsfriend  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 8:02:27am

re: #41 madisonsfriend

Was i edited because i said i read that Britney is pregnant again- in the Express- the WAPO free paper.

46 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 8:03:06am

re: #39 Ward Cleaver

re: #3 madisonsfriend


But isn't the real news that Lindsay Lohan had cocaine in her pocket during her arrest?

It's just a matter of time before this idiot does some jail time.

Also, the paparazzi caught Britney Spears trying to drive off with her kid sitting on her lap. I can't wait until CPS takes her kid away.
Dimbulb.

I should say, Britney was caught again. As in the last couple of days. How long before CPS takes this seriously? After she has a wreck and kills her kid?

47 grumpy old codger  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 8:14:04am

I think they don't show mecca because the already own it. Jerusalem, they claim, is theirs, so they push that belief (not supported by their facts, like the Jews never had a Temple there, for instance) by showing the Dome.
I'd be willing to bet that if they ever did take Jerusalem (Heaven forbid), this sort of program would be showing, say, the Alhambra or some other site that they're interested in. Then, if they got that, they'd just switch to another site. Wouldn't be surprised to find out that at some point in the future, some old manuscript will show that the moslems were once the owners of Miami Beach. Then they could propagandize this and declare Miami Beach as the x most famous religious site in islam.

48 ibrodsky  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 8:16:03am

Since it may disappear soon, here's what I posted in response to Fadlallah:


"ZATHRAS" compares Middle Eastern clerics to Communists because both are long-winded. That entirely misses the point. What makes Fadlallah resemble a Communist spokesman is the use of propaganda to twist everything around. According to Fadlallah, jihad is purely defensive, Islam is tolerant, and Islam is more "ethically committed" than the West.

These claims are, sadly, preposterous. All over the world, Muslims have managed to convince themselves that they fight only defensive wars according to strict rules of humanity and mercy. Yet just last summer Hizballah fired rockets indiscriminantly at Israeli population centers with the intent of killing civilians. (They could have easily aimed at Israeli army positions, but chose not to.)

Islam's "tolerance" is also more than a little suspect. Anti-semitic literature reminiscent of Nazi Germany is regularly broadcast and distributed from outlets including Cairo, Damascus, and (guess who) Hizballah.

The idea that forcing women to wear burqas is somehow virtuous would be laughable were it not accompanied by polygamy (a form of slavery), Koran-sanctioned wife-beating, and wink-and-a-nod "honor" killings.

Fadlallah, we have a saying in this part of the West. It starts "You can fool some of the people some of the time..."

49 cmancone  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 8:45:29am

LOL! I only read bits and pieces, but I managed to catch the really funny parts:


Facing the apostate would involve asking him to explain the basis that made him denounce his belief, and engaging in a subjective and free discussion about them with a group of religious scholars, with the aim of convincing him that he had made a mistake. If he refuses to take part in the dialogue, or if he does not agree to re-embrace Islam despite all the arguments and proofs he is faced with, it would suggest that his position is one of a complicated stubbornness, and not of someone with an open minded intellectual mentality.

Translation: If an apostate can't be convinced to re-accept Islam, then clearly he is just being immature and stubborn - anyone who was rational and open-minded can tell that Islam is true, certainly there are no rational reasons for rejecting it.

Similarly, if he does not proclaim his apostasy, and continues to abide by the general order, socially and legally, then he would not be punished for changing the religion.

Translation: If an apostate doesn't declare his apostacy, he won't be punished for being an apostate (well duh! How can you punish someone for doing something they didn't admit to doing!)

50 Boazhorribilis  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 8:56:14am

So here is the Muslim "Chicken or the Egg" dilemma:
Are they traditionally backward and primitive, which makes them a nuisance and dangerous to all living and sometimes inanimate objects around them, and Islams gets a pass, OR, they are really nice folks but Islam turned them into the backward, primitive, ignorant brutes?
Does it make any difference?

51 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 12:18:25pm
Jihad in Islam (The violent confrontation of the enemy) is the fighting movement that aims at preventing the enemy from forcing its hegemony over the land and the people by means of violence that confiscates freedom, kills the people, usurps the wealth and prevents the people's rights in self-determination and running their own affairs.

This imam has me very confused. So jihad is opposed to those things? Funny, because I thought that's what jihad imposed.

52 carridine  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 4:37:04pm

re: #49 cmancone

LOL! I only read bits and pieces, but I managed to catch the really funny parts:



Facing the apostate would involve asking him to explain the basis that made him denounce his belief, and engaging in a subjective and free discussion about them with a group of religious scholars, with the aim of convincing him that he had made a mistake. If he refuses to take part in the dialogue, or if he does not agree to re-embrace Islam despite all the arguments and proofs he is faced with, it would suggest that his position is one of a complicated stubbornness, and not of someone with an open minded intellectual mentality.

Translation: If an apostate can't be convinced to re-accept Islam, then clearly he is just being immature and stubborn - anyone who was rational and open-minded can tell that Islam is true, certainly there are no rational reasons for rejecting it.

Similarly, if he does not proclaim his apostasy, and continues to abide by the general order, socially and legally, then he would not be punished for changing the religion.

Translation: If an apostate doesn't declare his apostacy, he won't be punished for being an apostate (well duh! How can you punish someone for doing something they didn't admit to doing!)


CMancone, ALL Islam was obviated when The Mahdi came, from 1853 to 1892. Known as The Glory of God, Baha'u'llah didn't REFORM Islam, He brought the long-foretold New Heaven and New Earth, as promised in Christian Scripture, and in the doing ENDED the Islamic Dispensation.

Islamic mullahs and imams stand as obstacles between the Muslims and the Glory of God, at least in part because He ended ALL clergy & priesthoods, and gave that power to the people.

No imams in the Faith of God? Attack, as if they are apostates! Cling to power, just for another day...


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