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Giuliani on the Debate and the 'John Doe' Amendment

Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 9:52:56 am PDT

Rudy Giuliani comments on the Democrats’ debate, and on their opposition to the “John Doe” amendment to protect Americans from being sued by the likes of CAIR for reporting suspicious behavior: JoinRudy2008 - Press Releases.

Rudy Giuliani made the following statement today regarding Peter King’s amendment to the Homeland Security bill that is currently being debated in Congress:

“Last night, the leading Democratic candidates once again failed to even utter the words ‘Islamic terrorism’ at their fourth debate.

“This morning, congressional Democrats are once again showing they just don’t get the Terrorists’ War on Us by attempting to strip important protections for those who report suspected terrorists on airlines.

“Peter King is doing the right thing by putting our national security first and political correctness run amok second.

“The terrorists are at war with us - whether or not Democrats in Washington and on the campaign trail choose to acknowledge it – and we must stay on offense to prevail.”

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1 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:54:11am

Excuse me.

It's Jew-liani.

2 NoSubmission  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:56:02am

Rudy
2008
2012

3 wvobiwan  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:56:13am

New slogan is out today from the Hillary camp:

"What, me worry?"

Alfred E. Neuman plans to sue.

4 froghat2k  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:56:45am

Rudy is the man and he's got my vote. I don't see anyone in the Republican or Democratic party who is as serious about defeating Islamic terrorism.

5 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:56:48am

Rudy was on Dennis Prager today talking about this very issue.

6 Just Another Four-letter Word  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:57:30am

Does anybody know the other Repub candidate's views on this John Doe amendment?

JAFLW

7 FQ Kafir  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:57:31am
“The terrorists are at war with us - whether or not Democrats in Washington and on the campaign trail choose to acknowledge it – and we must stay on offense to prevail.”

Don't tell Kos. He might get upset.

8 Tricky Dick  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:57:35am

Rudy get's it and he'll get my vote in 2008 as well.

9 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:57:51am
The terrorists Islam is at war with us - whether or not Democrats in Washington and on the campaign trail choose to acknowledge it – and we must stay on offense to prevail.”

Fixed it...The enemy has a name.

10 pat  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:58:05am

Let us remember that the ticket handler in Maine suspected the Atta was a possible terrorist, but did nothing because he thought he would get into trouble for racial profiling. Cost to America, 3000 dead with a week, and a billion or so in building cost. Cost to date< another 3,000 dead and $200 Billion.

11 NoSubmission  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:58:26am

Meanwhile, Hillary's hosting a Happy Hour Hodown

12 wvobiwan  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:58:40am

Democrats have been saying for months now that they plan to ignore the Islamic terrorist threat during the campaign. It's a tacit admission that they are on the wrong side of this fight.

Everyone go buy this bumper sticker at Cafe Press:

Democrats: Making the world safe for TERRORISTS!

13 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:58:55am

Does it fit on a bumper sticker? /John Edwards
John who? /Hillary Clinton

14 J6  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:59:10am

Thank you Rudy for saying what I don't have the forum to say...

15 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:59:25am

Rudy knew.

16 Shanimal1918  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:59:38am

Isn't the war on terror just a bumper sticker?

/tinfoil hat

;)

17 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:59:49am

re: #10 pat

Acutally, the building costs are at least $20 billion and rising.

18 bosforus  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:00:04am

I'm so happy that Guliani is making a big deal out of this because I thought it way less attention than it deserved when the news first came out. How can anyone in their right mind want to destroy the rights of people who report suspicious behavior? I guess the phrase "right mind" is the answer to my question.

19 beblebrox  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:00:05am

at least he sort of gets it, though i wish he'd call islam by it's name.

20 FQ Kafir  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:00:33am

Liberal make great pets! 4 out of 5 Islamonazis agree!

21 pat  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:01:29am

lawhawk
Damn, that is one expensive building project. A bit too expensive.

22 easy  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:01:58am
and on their opposition to the “John Doe” amendment to protect Americans from being sued by the likes of CAIR for reporting suspicious behavior


Glad someone is talking about this. I suspect 99 out of a 100 people know nothing of it.

23 storagemanager  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:02:21am

I like Rudy,but he like President Bush will not name the enemy...Mohammad wrote a war book and his followers use it...to wage war on us...somebody needs to say it...or we can't win.

24 wvobiwan  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:02:30am

Rudy is my front-runner so far. He's a little wobbly on illegal immigration, as far as I can tell, but he's the only candidate in the race so far who seems to get the fact that WE ARE AT WAR.

We'll see what Fred! has to say about it, if he jumps in...

25 lefty201[deleted]  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:02:53am
26 geography teacher  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:03:14am

Islamic Terrorism?

Excuse me?

I don't see how those words belong in the same sentence. Except maybe:

"There is no such thing as Islamic Terrorism"

or

"The Brown government in the UK has banned the use of the words "Islamic" and "Terrorism" in the same sentence."

or

"All we need to do to have peace with Islamic Peoples is to stop using the words "Islamic Terrorism" (and convert to Islam, pay the poll tax if you don't convert, and live under Sharia)"

or the one I use

"My head hurts from being buried in the sand as I try to avoid the obvious reality of Islamic Terrorism"

27 Mike C.  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:03:47am

re: #24 wvobiwan

Agreed. We need to hear from Fred and Mitt. Those are (at this point in time) the only 3 contenders.

28 obscured by clouds  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:03:52am

How anyone could vote for one of the uberweenie Democrats over Giuliani is beyond me. They literally live in an alternative universe.

29 Trent_Boyett  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:05:35am

He's got my vote.

30 freetoken  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:05:38am

re: #4 froghat2k

Rudy is the man and he's got my vote. I don't see anyone in the Republican or Democratic party who is as serious about defeating Islamic terrorism.

You actually believe Islamic terrorism can be "defeated"? What do you mean by "defeat"?

31 easy  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:05:45am

re: #25 lefty201

Killing two hundred million people seems a bit much to me, KOS or no.

32 realwest  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:05:52am

re: #24 wvobiwan

re: #27 Mike C.

Agree completely. I like Rudy, but want to hear what Fred says about the issues facing America now.

33 Salem  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:06:37am

If Rudy is our next president, I will be pleased.

If it's Fred, fine. Couldn't be anywhere near as bad as any Dem getting it.

If it's Hillary, fine. That would be the end of the Democrat party and the Clintons. She wouldn't get anything done and the country would survive no worse for wear.

Obomba? Four years of the race-card and who knows what kind of strife and division. No thanks.

GO RUDY!

34 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:08:04am
35 Bobibutu  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:09:59am

re: #25 lefty201

Ike and Curtis LeMay -

36 lefty201  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:12:17am

re: #31 easy

how is it going to feel when 300 million americans are suddenly wiped out by nuclear bombs?


thats what they intend to do to us.

I don't for one second think there are Moderate Muslims.

wipe them all out.

37 Salem  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:12:29am

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, Buzzy! Yeah, but I think Hillary already has a running mate in mind. She knows Obomba would be second-guessing her at every turn. I don't think it would happen. She would almost rather lose than have a running-mate forced on her. Anyway, that would be the end of Obomba, too, as he would be effectively powerless, yet would have guilt by association.

38 realwest  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:14:02am

re: #33 Salem "If it's Hillary, fine. That would be the end of the Democrat party and the Clintons. She wouldn't get anything done and the country would survive no worse for wear."
Gotta disagree with you on that one; I think the country would be MUCH the worse for wear.

39 cblesz  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:14:28am

Wow. very impressive. This is my favorite quote from Guliani:

“Last night, the leading Democratic candidates once again failed to even utter the words ‘Islamic terrorism’ at their fourth debate."

He gets it. Whether he is being fed these quotes or not, it is huge. This to mo is the NUMBER ONE issue facing our country. I am so sick of the freaking Democrats ignoring it and trying to pound on the economy. This economy is strong and in the same reahlm as "Clinton's supposed utopia". Why the MSM ignores the threat to our way of life is disgusting. I hate to say it or even think it. But, this country is never going to change. Septemeber 11 united us briefly. Then all the LLLs forgot. The barbarians saw off heads, threaten our livelihood and the left closes their eyes and puts their hands over their ears. Once Hillary or Obama gets elected and we have another attack because our foreign policy is defensive, several thousand more Americans will perish...unfortuantely judging by the past, the left will weep for a day, then forget again.

40 cookielady  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:15:14am

re: #31 easy

re: #25 lefty201

Killing two hundred million people seems a bit much to me, KOS or no.

Maybe so... but we should start the process and see how far we get before they finally surrender unconditionally and dump their unholy book. When those against you are fanatic and barbarous, you must be willing to be a bit barbarous yourself in order to survive and triumph.

With those following fundamental Islam, it is kill or be killed. They leave us no alternative.

41 opnion  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:18:03am

If we just declare peace the whole problem will go away. It's so simple. You do see it don't you? We never would have been attacked on 9/11 if we were not in Afghanistan & Iraq.

42 Poitiers-Lepanto  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:19:09am

.

“The terrorists are at war with us - whether or not Democrats in Washington and on the campaign trail choose to acknowledge it – and we must stay on offense to prevail.”

Go Rudy !

43 yesandno  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:20:45am

Unfortunately, Democrats only care about John Dough$...

44 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:21:39am
45 Atman  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:22:50am
46 easy  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:22:51am

re: #41 opnion

If we just declare peace the whole problem will go away. It's so simple. You do see it don't you? We never would have been attacked on 9/11 if we were not in Afghanistan & Iraq.


There is strength through peace.

47 cblesz  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:23:37am

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

I agree...but excuse me while I go back outside, keep building the bunker and try to stop puking...

48 Buck  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:26:05am
failed to even utter the words ‘Islamic terrorism’

Now where did he get that line from?

Rudy? Is that you Rudy? Are you reading LGF?

49 tfc3rid  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:29:09am

Let's be real on this one folks... A major Presidential candidate who is seriously trying to win the office is not going to go out and say we are at war with Islam... It's just not going to happen... And you know why? Because saying that will lead to sound bytes being used by the opponent as to how intolerant they are...

Even if some of us think that this needs to be said, it just won't happen... A candidate who says it, will be a former candidate...

50 lefty201  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:30:40am

re: #49 tfc3rid

Let's be real on this one folks... A major Presidential candidate who is seriously trying to win the office is not going to go out and say we are at war with Islam... It's just not going to happen... And you know why? Because saying that will lead to sound bytes being used by the opponent as to how intolerant they are...

Even if some of us think that this needs to be said, it just won't happen... A candidate who says it, will be a former candidate...


what would you have them say? Come on presidential candidates! Lie some more to us! Yes YES YES! I love the lies.

51 Poitiers-Lepanto  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:32:14am

re: #49 tfc3rid

Let's be real on this one folks... A major Presidential candidate who is seriously trying to win the office is not going to go out and say we are at war with Islam... It's just not going to happen... And you know why? Because saying that will lead to sound bytes being used by the opponent as to how intolerant they are...
Even if some of us think that this needs to be said, it just won't happen... A candidate who says it, will be a former candidate...

Well, that's all true because WE are not at war with islam. It's islam that is at war with us (as the main power in the world and the only one able to stop their imperialistic dreams).

52 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:33:30am

How Giuliani could NOT get it is beyond me. The choice is now with the Republican voter. If he makes it, I am comfortable with it. If he doesn't, consider the Democratic alternatives, not real pretty.

-S-

53 Carol Herman  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:33:48am

Rudy's got my vote!

And, I've read his book "LEADERSHIP."

In it he points out that when he first lost the New York City Mayor's run TO: David Dinkins. He set about setting up the re-match.

Dinkins, meanwhile, couldn't get out of bed and make any decisions. So New York City really suffered. It was "after" Koch. And, before Guiliani got in.

During those 4 years Guiliani built an APPARATUS. The day he won and reached City Hall, his TEAM was ready.

He's doing this AGAIN.

Ted Olsen has joined his campaign. He's also got the top anti-terrorist group in the nation, aboard his run for office. No other candidate's got that.

What can happen up ahead? I don't think Fred Thompson will get clout outside of his very right wing circle. And, even over there, people are terrified of Hillary; and want a candidate who can win.

(Abraham Lincoln did the same thing back in 1860. He was in 4th place, going into the Republican Convention; but the other three "favorite sons" were big in their respective states and circles. While Lincoln held the ace. He had national recognition, and he could win. Yes. And, he DID WIN.

So, that within the republican party, today, you see people very attuned to WINNING in 2008. And, yes. Extending that to 2012, as well.

The other candidate who's glib with the microphones? Newt Gingrich. What you don't see, however, is Tom DeLay. Who can beat the living crap out of Gingrich; and who can prove to the American people, that when Newt was handed the GOP victory inh 1994, he spent a decade SQUANDERING IT.

So, sure. Up ahead there will be movement on the field. Noses will stick forward. And, McCain? He's just waiting for the FEC money to kick in. Then, he departs. (How honorable is that?) Not very.

And, the worst, for Bush, is over. His positions are well known. And, he's not in a spiral, down, anymore.

Up ahead? Well, that will depend on the congress. And, Bush still has his veto pen.

What have the Bonkeys got? Enough Botox to fool you about facial expressions? Really?

54 threecoloursblue  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:36:05am

re: #42 Poitiers-Lepanto

Peter King...against terrorism...except when it's Irish terrorism.
Peter King and Noraid

55 cblesz  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:38:06am

re: #49 tfc3rid

Let's be real on this one folks... A major Presidential candidate who is seriously trying to win the office is not going to go out and say we are at war with Islam... It's just not going to happen... And you know why? Because saying that will lead to sound bytes being used by the opponent as to how intolerant they are...

Even if some of us think that this needs to be said, it just won't happen... A candidate who says it, will be a former candidate...

That is what is wrong with the electorate. Sticking our head in the sand will only get more Americans killed. This is going to be a huge "I TOLD YOU SO" moment...Rudy is basically warning the electorate about the softness of the left. When it happens, and it will when Hillary or Obama gets elected...I hope he stands up and says it...

56 dr. akim ullsheetbay  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:38:18am

i think i like Jew-dy Jew-liani...maybe he should be in drag for that one.

57 tfc3rid  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:38:45am

re: #51 Poitiers-Lepanto

You know what I mean though, regardless of how I put it... No candidate on the side of the GOP (or Dems) would say something like that in this non-stop 24/7 news covered world... The PC police would arrest them, convict them and sentance them to the needle in 30 minutes...

58 tfc3rid  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:41:36am

re: #55 cblesz

This whole election is an I TOLD YOU SO moment... If the right person is not elected to the White House, I fear millions will die... Either because they are too stupid to understand the true nature of our enemy, or they honestly are naive enough to think that Islamic terrorists can simply walk away...

59 cbinflux  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:42:27am

Go Rudy!

60 loppyd  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:43:26am

Romney-Giuliani would be my dream ticket, but I would
happily get behind a Giuliani-Romney ticket, too.

Don't forget Romney said the govt. should be tapping mosques
and even better he got CAIR-MO Hooper worked into a frenzy
over it.

61 lefty201  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:43:27am

re: #57 tfc3rid


your right. They would be crucified. Thats why you need a sacrificial lamb in the race to pull that stunt off. Like Tancredo.

62 tfc3rid  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:46:06am

re: #61 lefty201

However, to many of us here, Tancredo is a logical choice, not simply a 'sacrificial lamb'.

However, he gets no play because of his perception as a 'lone gunman'...

63 Peter Verkooijen  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:46:52am
... they just don’t get the Terrorists’ War on Us ...

Giuliani not only understands the war, he knows how to frame it. He's strongly countering the fallacy that this is somehow "Bush's war". This is crucial.

64 lefty201  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:48:37am

re: #62 tfc3rid

he's perfect for the bill. Send him in to charge the base, then let him loose so that when he goes overboard, he can be thrown under the bus and the publican nominee can say how much more moderate they are than him. you already have a charged base that would follow the party through hell and back, you r a winner.

65 nyc redneck  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:49:11am

pres. rudy

66 Salem  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:50:24am

(had to grab some lunch)

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

He would bring immense strength to a Hillary run: together, they would constitute the "historic" ticket--First Woman, First Black Man--and lots of people would vote for the ticket on that basis. He's got the warm-fuzzy-loveability to take the edge off Hillary's more grating aspects; he covers her ass with the rabidly antiwar left, and she can still feign enough "toughness" to play to the squashy, on-the-fence-about-the-war center.

You've certainly got a sterling point there. Again, I just think Hillary is already sweating at the prospect of a VP Obomba trying to go over her head to appeal to his base, making her effectively a co-president. I just don't see how she could stomach that.

re: Edwards, I thought he would be doing much better right now. Of course the guy makes an idiot of himself every time he opens his mouth (he's no Bill Clinton, rhetorically speaking) but he has that hairdo and look to appeal to the shallow majority of Dem voters. I'm shocked that he's getting the reception he so richly deserves.

67 tfc3rid  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:51:23am

re: #64 lefty201

I think it could actually hurt more than help in the scenario you talk about... The Conservative base is already feeling excluded... A candidate that is clearly to the Middle overall will not appeal to the Conservative base...

However, when a middle-of-the-roader is compared to Shrillary...

68 lefty201  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:53:59am

I think I would rather have the devil I know in Hillary, than the devil I don't know in Obama. I just have one very important question that I need answered.

WHO THE HELL IS OBAMA?

3 years ago, we never heard of the guy. Now he's americas sweetheart? WTF?!?

I wonder what would happen if the american public wrote in no confidence on the ballot?

69 tfc3rid  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:53:59am

re: #66 Salem

Shrillary-Obama ticket reminds me of a line from the US version of 'The Office'...

Women and blacks... 'The olympics of Suffering'

In the show Steve Carrell was hosting 'Diversity Day' and made post its to put on employees head showing a 'race' and saying to talk about your issues... The 'Olympics of Suffering' line came out when it was a person playing 'black' and another playing 'Jewish'

70 Name The Enemy  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:54:20am

#4 froghat2k:
Rudy is the man and he's got my vote. I don't see anyone in the Republican or Democratic party who is as serious about defeating Islamic terrorism.

Tom Tancredo is. Folks seem to forget that securing the border is paramount to stopping terrorism on our homefront. I'm not saying that I would vote for Tom at this point, but he has been a staunch advocate for fighting terrorism and naming the true enemy, and deserves mention in reply to your post.

71 Gearhead  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:54:45am

Rudy has my vote - he gets the war, but he also has the communication skills the office requires and he showed his leadership skills before, on, and after 9/11.

72 Salem  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:56:04am

re: #49 tfc3rid

In the current environment, yes, that's probably true. But one thing the Dems seem disastrously unprepared (aside from Biden, I guess) for is another big attack, which would alter the equation drastically. Another reason I'm not too concerned about the Dems getting it at this point. At least Hillary is trying to walk the razor rather than jumping in head-first like Obomba and that deluded chump Richardson.

73 tfc3rid  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 10:59:39am

re: #68 lefty201

Obama is a product of the MSM... They get everything they could ever want... An intelligent, good looking, well spoken man with an attractive wife, who happens to be a Black American...

they wanted him to be a rockstar... They've made him, they will never drop him...

74 Peter Verkooijen  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:00:07am

re: #30 freetoken

re: #4 froghat2k
... You actually believe Islamic terrorism can be "defeated"? What do you mean by "defeat"?

Sure islamic terrorism can be defeated, by showing the world that they represent backwardness and that the future belongs to democracy, freedom and reason.

At the moment islamic terrorism has radical chic, thanks mainly to the anti-American "left". When they're seen for the evil losers they are, the phenomenon will disappear.

Islamic terrorism should be the death throes of islam; go back to 7th century misery or join the modern world. We should make that choice easy.

75 shmuli  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:01:33am

#5 Colonel Panik

Yeah, I heard Rudy this a.m. on Prager on the way to work. Dennis specifically told Rudy that the 'John Doe' issue is a great weapon to use against the Dems and actually pushed him to make the point. Same story on the 'Islamic terrorism' issue.

Rudy is taking advice from talk show hosts!

This is very interesting. As we know, the media you hear determines your POV, and if Rudy is any indication, the Republicans are figuring out how to address and mollify their electorate. This is probably good, especially for Rudy, and look for more of this from the other candidates.

As for Dennis and the other talk show hosts, the scramble for short, consulting interviews will pick up very quickly . . .

76 itellu3times  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:03:16am

John Doe bill would have been THE issue to hear last night, so of course we didn't. And there was Hillary, all waiting to defend her vote FOR IT! And there was Obama, who *abstained*! Oh, I wonder what he had prepared there?

77 Salem  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:03:20am

re: #69 tfc3rid

LOL! Well, that does put an interesting spin on it.

78 itellu3times  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:06:04am

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

He would bring immense strength to a Hillary run: together, they would constitute the "historic" ticket--First Woman, First Black Man--and lots of people would vote for the ticket on that basis. He's got the warm-fuzzy-loveability to take the edge off Hillary's more grating aspects; he covers her a** ...

Oh pleeze find another way of sayin that!

79 Salem  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:07:08am

re: #76 itellu3times

Oh yeah, definitely. There are the voting records out there, too. Don't get too excited yet, people, we haven't gotten to the bottleneck of the campaign; that's white-knuckle time for the "ho" factor.

80 easy  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:07:45am

#40 cookielady

With those following fundamental Islam, it is kill or be killed. They leave us no alternative.


I would say islamistists, those actually acting on their fundamental beliefs. If I were able I would be there, my son was, but I simply don't think the indiscriminate killing of people we are trying to liberate is a good idea. I'm sure you would rather be handing out cookies as well.

81 cookielady  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:09:41am

While I appreciate Mr. Guiliani's comments regarding the ineffectual and dangerous Democratic presidential candidates, I do not feel that he is the candidate for me unless he is all there is when the time comes. If the Republican party once again puts me in the position of voting for the lesser of two evils, I don't know what I will ultimately do...

What we need is a solid conservative candidate who communicates well, has leadership skills and is an absolute realist when it comes to Islam.

Not gonna happen, sad to say.

82 cookielady  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:12:39am

re: #80 easy

#40 cookielady


With those following fundamental Islam, it is kill or be killed. They leave us no alternative.

I would say islamistists, those actually acting on their fundamental beliefs. If I were able I would be there, my son was, but I simply don't think the indiscriminate killing of people we are trying to liberate is a good idea. I'm sure you would rather be handing out cookies as well.

I certainly would. They would give them back with bombs in them.

83 Salem  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:13:18am

Oh, BTW, if Bill doesn't want Obomba on Hillary's ticket, and I have no reason to assume he does (look at Sharpton and Jackson waiting for this to play out) then it's not going to happen. Bill and Hill run the mob. What they want, they get. This is why Hillary, with her current numbers, is a shoe-in for the nomination (though I didn't believe it a few months ago) and no one gets to tell her who her poodle will be.

84 Salem  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:23:46am
Bill and Hill run the mob.

Oopsy! Shouldn't have let that one slip, now people will think I'm bananas.

No, you twit, they're all two threads out now.

Ah yes. Well, all is well, then.

85 lefty201  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:30:00am

why was my post #25 deleted?

86 MODERATIONIST[deleted]  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:30:07am
87 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:34:50am

Rudy just doesn't understand that we need to send the President of the United States to sit down and TALK to Osama bin Laden! Or maybe invite OBL here, with a nice sleepover in the Lincoln Bedroom. Under President Obama, we'll see this dream come true. Hugs, everyone!

88 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:39:13am

The Democrat party is ruled by their left-wing base.
The modern Democrat party can be summed up in two words:

MICHAEL
MOORE


"There is no terrorist threat..."
-- Michael Moore


This is why the Dems cannot even mention "islamic Terrorism".

89 Cpt. Disco  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:42:03am

I'm still watching Rudy closely. Defending ourselves and our unborn children are important issues to me.

90 finallyhere  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:43:06am

Even if Fred gets it, still Rudy is a man. Rudy is the only person in the race, Republican or Democrat, who proved that he can get things done.

It is not a right time to give sombody without proven record a chance to learn, no matter how concervative is Fred Thompson.

Go Rudy, our last best hope.

91 bebe's boobs destroy  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 11:48:01am

hmm, looks like Rudy's been reading LGF!

92 tommylotto  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 12:13:50pm

Terrorists’ War on Us™

He is turning that into quite a slogan. It is true that they have declared war on us and it is a war that they want and we do not want but must fight nonetheless. Also, as long as the Dems control Congress it will be a one way war -- them waging total war on us, and us waging a limited (yet much more expensive) form of warfare against them. When will we wake up, wage total war and drain the swamps from which this monster rises? When will we forbid any nexus between Islam and politics? In any nation? In any part of the world? Forever?

93 madmama  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 12:17:24pm

Last week, I went over to Palm Beach and volunteered for Rudy at our local phone calling center. I must have called 100 people to get their views on who they'll be voting for.
Tonight's a strategy meeting for all RUDY volunteers at one of our local Rebuplican representative's house...Carl Domino.
I'm putting my time and my money on Rudy!
WE'VE GOT TO FREAKING BEAT HILLARY!
By the way, I have been passing on comments from LGF to the chairman (woman) from Rudy's campaign. I told her that Rudy ( or someone from his staff) needs to keep their eyes on LGF to get a sense of where we're coming from. I think they are listening!

94 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 12:25:23pm
“The terrorists are at war with us - whether or not Democrats in Washington and on the campaign trail choose to acknowledge it – and we must stay on offense to prevail.”

Rudy is great about staying on message.

GO RUDY!

95 AirForceWife  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 12:29:44pm

#87 Occasional Reader 7/24/2007 11:34:50 am PDT reply quote

Rudy just doesn't understand that we need to send the President of the United States to sit down and TALK to Osama bin Laden! Or maybe invite OBL here, with a nice sleepover in the Lincoln Bedroom. Under President Obama, we'll see this dream come true. Hugs, everyone!

Democrats are busy making excuses for why it won't be their fault when we are attacked again, while simultaneously working to make sure we are.

96 daughter of patriots  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 12:37:08pm

re: #53 Carol Herman

Rudy's got my vote!

And, I've read his book "LEADERSHIP."

In it he points out that when he first lost the New York City Mayor's run TO: David Dinkins. He set about setting up the re-match.

Dinkins, meanwhile, couldn't get out of bed and make any decisions. So New York City really suffered. It was "after" Koch. And, before Guiliani got in.

During those 4 years Guiliani built an APPARATUS. The day he won and reached City Hall, his TEAM was ready.

He's doing this AGAIN.

Ted Olsen has joined his campaign. He's also got the top anti-terrorist group in the nation, aboard his run for office. No other candidate's got that.

What can happen up ahead? I don't think Fred Thompson will get clout outside of his very right wing circle. And, even over there, people are terrified of Hillary; and want a candidate who can win.

(Abraham Lincoln did the same thing back in 1860. He was in 4th place, going into the Republican Convention; but the other three "favorite sons" were big in their respective states and circles. While Lincoln held the ace. He had national recognition, and he could win. Yes. And, he DID WIN.

So, that within the republican party, today, you see people very attuned to WINNING in 2008. And, yes. Extending that to 2012, as well.

The other candidate who's glib with the microphones? Newt Gingrich. What you don't see, however, is Tom DeLay. Who can beat the living crap out of Gingrich; and who can prove to the American people, that when Newt was handed the GOP victory inh 1994, he spent a decade SQUANDERING IT.

So, sure. Up ahead there will be movement on the field. Noses will stick forward. And, McCain? He's just waiting for the FEC money to kick in. Then, he departs. (How honorable is that?) Not very.

And, the worst, for Bush, is over. His positions are well known. And, he's not in a spiral, down, anymore.

Up ahead? Well, that will depend on the congress. And, Bush still has his veto pen.

What have the Bonkeys got? Enough Botox to fool you about facial expressions? Really?

The morning after Guiliani got elected he & his team arrived with the blue prints of city hall at a local eatery, "Cronie's" on 88th & Second. At the time there was a huge stuffed gorilla that sat at a nearby table. When we sat down, my girlfriend and I said "when the guys come in sit them over here," (next table). "Which guys?" the waiter asked. "You'll know them when you see them," said I, facetiously, not expecting His mayoral himself! Looking back now, it was very memorable moment.

While disappointed with the way he'd announced his divorce to Donna Hanover, he's since proven his mettle, and certainly GETS IT. We're at war. We need a war president.

97 deseeded  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 1:13:15pm

Seriously, how hard is it for every candidate from every party to talk straight? Rudy has flaws, but I love the straight talk. At least you know what the hell he is standing for and against whether you agree or not. NONE of the Democrats running do this. It's all curve balls with these people.

If the Democratic party was a porn movie, it'd be something involving vasoline, ball gags, and ex-president masks.

98 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 1:18:49pm

RUDY!

99 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 1:19:55pm

re: #91 bebe's boobs destroy

hmm, looks like Rudy's been reading LGF!

That's what I thought, Bebes.

100 cosmo  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 1:31:24pm

I would vote for Romney...but if Rudy wins the GOP nod, he'd better make Mitt his veep. These guys get it--and they're pissed at the islamofascists. Plus they've managed governments, something Obama probably read about at Accidental Collage Occidental College and Fascist U. Columbia U., but has never done.

Don't forget, Obama is a lawyer.

101 at night  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 1:56:04pm

So the Dems are afraid that it would lead to Racial profiling...
So lets err on the side of Americas safety... after all it is too late when you are up at 32,000 feet...
If the Law does pan out as being misused or abused... change it... Lawmakers LOVE to make laws!

Oh! and if the Politicians flew with us "COMMON FOLK"... the might think twice about this bill.

102 Hard Right  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 2:31:15pm

Fred/Guiliani. That would be a major avalanche!

103 ceejaytoo  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 4:59:47pm

Atta boy, Rudy! Give 'em the heater, forget about the curveball!

104 Bay54  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 5:17:01pm

Living in NYC-I know Rudy and some like him and some do not, personally I like and trust the man and he will have my vote.

105 MrC_5150  Tue, Jul 24, 2007 9:41:33pm
“This morning, congressional Democrats are once again showing they just don’t get the Terrorists’ War on Us by attempting to strip important protections for those who report suspected terrorists on airlines."

Why is he limiting his comment to terrorists on airplanes? Obviously a Jewlianian schlip.

106 NCusTranshumanist  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 7:46:38am

re: #1 Ben Hur

Excuse me.

It's Jew-liani.

Which makes precisely no sense, but what else is new?

Rudy just went up a tick in my book.

A Fred!/Rudy ticket would rock.


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