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'Shock Troops' Update

Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 3:23:02 pm PDT

Here’s an interesting post by a “semiotics” expert on the New Republic “Shock Troops” article: John Barnes’ Amazon Blog.

With years of experience at coaching writers and analyzing problems in their work, Barnes (who self-identifies as a leftist/radical) concludes that “Scott Thomas” is an MFA writing student, probably with some military experience, who took bits and pieces of real events and mixed them with outright, poorly written fiction. He makes a good case and it’s worth reading, but this has to go under the heading of speculation.

Meanwhile, New Republic editor Franklin Foer has made another statement on the matter to ABC News: Who Is the ‘Baghdad Diarist’?

He say he has “many, many data points” to back up the lurid stories in “Shock Troops,” but doesn’t actually say what those data points are. Apparently, a military email address is not one of them.

Franklin Foer, the editor of the New Republic, said that he has met Thomas here in the States and that he is “absolutely certain” that he is a soldier in Iraq. “Not an ounce of doubt,” he told ABCNEWs.com. Asked about how he attempted to verify Thomas’ military credentials, Foer said, “I’ve got many, many data points to back that up” although one of those proofs didn’t include a military e-mail account.

As for the specific accounts in the stories, Foer said that the articles were rigorously fact-checked before they were published. “We showed the stories to people who’d been embedded in Iraq to make sure that it all smelled good. We talked to one of the members of his unit to confirm the woman, a female contractor. We talked to a medic who’d served in Iraq to make sure that a woman could be in an FOB. We spent a lot of time with him on the phone asking hard questions.”

If the stories were “rigorously fact-checked” as Foer claims, it should be a simple matter to prove; just publish the fact-checkers’ observations and results.

Allahpundit makes an excellent point: it’s a mistake to focus on whether “Scott Thomas” is a “real soldier.” This is how the leftists who desperately want to believe the worst about the US military will counter-attack; if he does turn out to be a real serviceman, they’ll do their best to make it the entire issue, and thereby discredit any blogger or writer who questioned his existence. (Jamil Hussein, anyone?) The focus should instead be on the veracity of the anti-military stories.

Also see Greyhawk’s post at Mudville Gazette, for more thoughts on the necessity to avoid being trapped in this controversy.

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1 mrsoc  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:25:20pm

Mr. Glass meet Mr. Churchill.

2 bikermailman  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:25:40pm

Fake but accurate bullshiite!

3 itellu3times  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:26:19pm

It's what I said yesterday, it sounds like writer's workshop stuff.

4 Sponge  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:26:32pm

I still think that it was written by someone on billarie's campaign team.

5 zombie  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:26:34pm

Hell, I concluded “Scott Thomas” is an MFA writing student, and I have "no experience" whatsoever.

6 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:26:55pm

I wouldn't wipe my a$$ with the New Republic.

7 zombie  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:27:14pm

All it takes is a good eye. Easy to spot these fakes in a second or two.

8 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:28:22pm

I wouldn't even let any of Zombie's subjects wipe their a$$ with the New Republic.

9 Stinky Wizzleteats  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:29:28pm

I think Allahpundit has a good point on this. We need to focus solely on the claims this "Scott Thomas" makes, not on whether or not he actually exists. Let the military take care of this asshat; we (and the milbloggers) should be involved in taking down his ludicrous stories. Let's make this another Rathergate, instead of a Jamil Hussein.

10 Capt_Faust  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:29:38pm

re: #7 zombie

All it takes is a good eye. Easy to spot these fakes in a second or two.

You mean like some guy running down the street yelling

"I was in IRAQ...and BUSHHITLER paid me to kill muslims indiscriminately while I raped cattle and stole oil...***drool drool, slobber slobber***"

/ Or other ways of course...

11 LanceKates  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:29:42pm

If it isn't a soldier, it is just more anti-american crap published by people who would rather see us lose than win.

If it is a soldier... well, there are idiots in uniforms as well.

Frankly, the idea doesn't even come onto my radar of important things.

It is like someone trying to prove that the sky is pea green. I don't care what evidence they try to create, the sky isn't pea green and they are an idiot. (apologies to all idiots for the comparison to the anti-american, anti-military, flea-ridden piece of jock strap that wrote the story in the first place.)

All I think of when I read stuff like this is that "Baghdad Bob" guy who was trying to tell Iraq how they're winning the war, with our tanks in the background blowing the crust out of stuff. (some cartoon I'd seen, maybe C&F)

12 gymnast  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:30:32pm

Self delusion is a shitbirds means of dealing with perceived reality. Knowing what planet one is standing on is not a necessary precondition for being certain of what they imagine and pass on as fact. Those like them quote the delusions as being facts. They are certain of it. They are shitbirds.

13 Capt_Faust  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:32:32pm

OT...

I'm sure the lizard army has seen this, but check this out.

A New Patton for The WOT.

This is a clip of a guy who does a good Patton impression placed over clips from the film.

It does a good job, and I wish someone would do this for real...

14 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:35:15pm
“We showed the stories to people who’d been embedded in Iraq to make sure that it all smelled good."

"Hey, guys. Does this smell enough like 'I told you so,' or should I add more lavender?"

And scene...

15 opnion  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:35:28pm

These are good points about not fixating on whether or not this guy is a soldier.(I have doubts)
He may not have mentioned it "often", but John Kerry actually was in country. That did not stop him from relating speculation and outright lies as fact.
I do not believe that we have sent a bunch of criminals to Iraq. I believe that we have sent our best.

16 jemima  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:36:31pm

Scott Thomas an MFA? Given the publishing climate, how writing well is a detriment and how Frey got a million bucks for his fake autobiography A Million Little Pieces, I think Thomas should start shopping for a mansion in Beverly Hills.

17 pat  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:36:38pm

John Barnes is gullible, yet credulous.

18 Catttt  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:37:03pm

Allahpundit is totally correct.

In particular, Mr. Foer makes me want to barf on his shoes. He is flapping like a scarecrow in a nor'easter. The "data points" is jargon - Mr. Foer does not define his terms here. Example - "We talked to one of the members of his unit..." Not enough info to know whether or not Mr. Foer was scammed on the call (which is incredibly easy to do).

Still, the idea that Mr. Thomas may not really be a bona fide troop is intriguing. I realize Mr. Barnes' piece is speculation, but I had an AHA moment reading it, because yesterday, I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing.

Also, if Mr. Thomas is in Iraq, when did Mr. Foer meet him stateside?

19 chapman  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:39:17pm

Sure he was fact checked, and because he was such a helpful guy, I bet he even provided the people to fact check him. No way that can be manipulated. No siree.

20 Just_A_Grunt  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:41:40pm

I am curious about what sort of facts he checked. Are women allowed on a FOB? Duh, yeah It is just those kind of insightful questions and fact checking that has led most people to regard news stories with a high degree of skepticism.

21 Lee  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:43:03pm

Re: the John Barnes post: Very interesting, and although I have no doubt that he's a liberal, I must have missed the part where he "self-identifies as a leftist/radical". American academia is sorely missing PhDs who can think and write this cogently; it is telling that his career is exclusively within industry and outside the academy. His dig at continental semiologists is particularly satisfying...

22 FearlessMinky  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:43:24pm

Though it would be interesting...

Isn't it illegal to fake being in the military? (Impersonation of an armed-forces member or something?)

If it's determined that this "Scott Thomas" is not and never was military, can he be prosecuted? (Or whoever he turns out to be?)

/must do some research

23 bosforus  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:43:51pm
We showed the stories to people who’d been embedded in Iraq to make sure that it all smelled good.

so how does that explain why people from the location where the story is said to have taken place say that it's complete BS?

24 LanceKates  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:44:44pm

Well, ladies... gentlemen... scoundrel liberals...

Time to head home.

Y'all have a good night and remember:

If she can't find you handsome, she should at least find you handy.

/ red green (between Red Green and "How Its Made" I think that sums up 95% of my canadian tv show viewing)

25 Charles  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:46:49pm

re: #21 Lee

I must have missed the part where he "self-identifies as a leftist/radical".

Right here:

I think in running the story, the New Republic once again demonstrates why the whole center-Democrat DLC Clintonista armada offers nothing to any genuine radical of any stripe from green to red. ...

I suppose I wish Foer well. He's got a long life ahead of him and right now he's way up a tree and that looks like a long fall. But I can't help thinking that the sooner he falls out of that tree, the better for all of us on the left, and maybe for the country as a whole.

26 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:47:31pm
27 Lee  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:48:07pm

re: #24 LanceKates

(between Red Green and "How Its Made" I think that sums up 95% of my canadian tv show viewing)

?!?! I thought "How It's Made" was "The Red Green Show"!

28 bosforus  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:49:48pm

re: #27 Lee

I used to watch How it's Made, but then every episode was the same thing, crap going down a conveyor belt, then slow motion. uggg, as much as i'd like to still be a fan of that show, i'm not.

29 FearlessMinky  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:51:20pm

Gots ta go. Dinner awaits, and it ain't makin' itself.

/must figure out how to breed "gas-range chicken"; it would revolutionize cooking...

30 doppelganglander  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:51:56pm

As a writer, I despise MFA programs. They seem to turn out a lot of self-absorbed whiny babies whose fiction all sounds alike.

31 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:52:44pm

re: #22 FearlessMinky

Isn't it illegal to fake being in the military? (Impersonation of an armed-forces member or something?)

Not in and of itself, no. Fraudulently wearing a US military uniform while doing something that brings discredit on the military, though, is.

If pretending to be in the military were a crime, we would have no movies or TV shows about the military. It's all about the intent.

If it's determined that this "Scott Thomas" is not and never was military, can he be prosecuted?

Probably not, unless he was trying to make money off of it or something.

32 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:55:38pm

re: #30 doppelganglander

Just out of curiosity, what's the origin of your nic? It doesn't happen to relate to a certain dearly-departed TV show, does it?

33 doppelganglander  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:56:40pm

re: #32 lobo91

Indeed it does, season 3. I think there's a little Evil Willow in all of us.

34 Lee  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:57:06pm

re: #25 Charles


Hmm. I read those passages, and didn't interpret them that way the first time around. If that's his line, he is pretty cagey about it -- not just in the post at hand, but in the rest of his Amazon blog as well. Even if he is, he's certainly a notch or two above Franklin Foer -- to say nothing of the topless geniuses Zombie encountered the other day...

I still think it's a good post. At any rate, if this fellow feels the need to clarify or defend his political leanings, then I'll leave it to him.

35 Drained Brain  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 3:59:09pm

The same type of article could be written by one who was a doctor, lawyer, or Indian Chief. It could even be written by a disaffected reporter embedded in the MSM but I won't hold my breath waiting for that one to appear.

We all know the intent of the article. Our members of the armed forces are either poor "children" or psychopathic creeps in the eyes of the Left.

36 coquimbojoe  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:00:32pm

'Rigorous factchecking' for liberals is making sure that all their beliefs and stereotypes about eh military are represented with out regard to the truth.

37 niallster  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:01:56pm

So when it comes out that this is bollocks, as it surely will, is this guy going to get sacked same as Rather?

38 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:02:18pm

re: #33 doppelganglander

Just as I thought. One of my favorite episodes.

39 Render  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:02:59pm

There are photos online, from FOB Falcon, showing women in uniform, doing their jobs.

Nobody had to be called about that.

FREAKIN
MORONS!,
R

40 Malleus Dei  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:04:09pm

I confess, I sent Charles the link to John Barnes' essay, even though Barnes really is a Leftist, albeit a brilliant and intellectually honest one with self-evident amazing talents in writing (26 or so published novels) and semiotic analysis. The genesis of his essay was in some emails that a group of us, mainly writers, were exchanging among ourselves. He was encouraged to expand on his thesis, and there you have it.

I have no idea how anyone with a brain as good as Barnes' is can possibly be a Leftist; it makes no sense to me whatsoever. Heck, he even believes in the market. Go figure.

41 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:06:41pm
42 Lee  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:09:27pm

re: #40 Malleus Dei

...even though Barnes really is a Leftist, albeit a brilliant and intellectually honest one...

The problem is, "intellectually honest Leftist" is a dying breed, if not downright oxymoronic...

No need to "confess", BTW...

43 Geepers  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:10:13pm

From the linked article.

But the stories didn't ring true to some military bloggers and

Nonsense. I bet Mr. Baram can't name one milbloger that this story does ring true to.

Or is the prestigious liberal biweekly a victim of a conservative blogosphere intent on punishing any publication which doesn't run positive coverage of the war and the troops?

Yeah that's what it is Marcus. The mean old conservatives are victemising the poor little liberals.

44 Render  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:16:04pm

[Link: 1-22infantry.org...]

Second picture on the page.

Franklin Foer is an idiot.

SAID,
R

45 Render  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:20:19pm

re: #44 Render

Crap, hit post before I was finished. At the time that photo was taken at FOB Falcon, the Task Force 1-22 commander was Captain Jennifer McDonough aka Eliminator 6.

ARGH,
R

46 born again republican  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:26:05pm

Very interesting post by John Barnes! Gotta appreciate his methodology and who knew such a practice existed. As he predicts, I believe the guy will be outed, and soon. When that happens I'll be particularly interested in how well he read this guy. Thanks, Charles.

47 Cicero05  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:30:57pm

In the MSM a story "smelling good" is an acceptable substitute for confirmation that it's true.

48 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:33:50pm

re: #45 Render

At the time that photo was taken at FOB Falcon, the Task Force 1-22 commander was Captain Jennifer McDonough aka Eliminator 6.

Actually, she was the commander of E Company, 4th Support Battalion, which is part of Task Force 1-22.

A Task Force is a battalion that's had one or more of its companies cross-attached with another battalion (in this instance, they probably traded either a mech company or a Stryker company for an armor company).

At any rate, the commander of a Task Force is normally going to be a lieutenant colonel, not a captain.

49 deacon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:38:07pm

This reminds me of the Clarence Thomas hearings, where they lefts battle-cry was,..."It is not whether the charges are true or not, it is the seriousness of the charges"

50 Render  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:52:58pm

re: #48 lobo91

Double argh...

That's what I get for trying to post, fix dinner, and feed dogs at the same time. Good call Lobo.

NEVER
LOOK
BACK,
R

51 stuiec  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 4:56:04pm

Personally, I am trying to picture the soldier whose head is so tiny that the cranial cap of a child fits over it "perfectly."

I am also trying to picture the soldier who "loves running over things" like curbs and concrete barriers with a Stryker and yet is never disciplined for unnecessarily exposing a valuable piece of equipment to damage.

Am I wrong to be troubled by the improbability of such things?

52 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 5:14:27pm

re: #51 stuiec

Despite what that moron said, nothing about this story "smells" right to me, or anyone else who's ever actually served in the Army.

It's total crap.

53 Hard Right  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 5:51:07pm

re: #36 coquimbojoe

'Rigorous factchecking' for liberals is making sure that all their beliefs and stereotypes about eh military are represented with out regard to the truth.

Absolutely, dead right.

It's mindblowing that they continue to try and pull this crap now that Conservatives have their own means of reporting and investigating. They actually believed they would go unchallenged on this. Talk about deluded.

54 FlyingTigress  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 6:43:13pm

re: #2 bikermailman

Fake but accurate bullshiite!


I have proof of the identity of "Scott Thomas", and his combat service.

I got a fax from a Kinko's in Texas, of a document written using an authentic IBM Selectric typewriter with kerning capability, and the ability to do superscripts, "raght he-ya"... via Mary Mapes.

What more do you want?

55 Malleus Dei  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 7:16:01pm

What more do you want?

The truth, which is exactly what we never, ever get from the Leftist Media.

56 paint-right  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 7:29:15pm

re: #28 bosforus

re: #27 Lee

I used to watch How it's Made, but then every episode was the same thing, crap going down a conveyor belt, then slow motion. uggg, as much as i'd like to still be a fan of that show, i'm not.

ah c,mon didn't you see the jaccuzzi bathtub one ?

fascinating!

and the boat one?/

LOL

57 El Gringo  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 7:29:31pm

ok, if Foer knows that the injured woman was a "female contractor," then he has more information than "Thomas" did, since Thomas wasn't sure. That means he has information he could share but refuses to.

58 paint-right  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 7:33:16pm

re: #49 deacon

This reminds me of the Clarence Thomas hearings, where they lefts battle-cry was,..."It is not whether the charges are true or not, it is the seriousness of the charges"

that still makes my blood boil, especially when the left gave Clinton a pass for actually DOING something, and thought Clarence Thomas was evil because he had made (perhaps) a remark , maybe, and NEVER touched her
EVER!

arrrgh

59 Reluctant Democrat  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:05:43pm
...rigorously fact-checked before they were published. “We showed the stories to people who’d been embedded in Iraq to make sure that it all smelled good."

TNR: Hey, Dude, could this have happened while you were there?

Reporter: Yeah.

TNR: Were there women on the base?

Reporter: Sh**, yeah.

60 Lokki  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:18:12pm

A lot of little things bother me about the article... there's nothing said about the stink of a cemetary where there's still rotting flesh. You'd notice. You'd say something.

The whole cemetary skull thing is bull for all the reasons people have already stated. Let me add another one. People are queasy and superstitious about dead little girls. Even in the heart of darkness that that this guy claims, somebody is going to tell you to knock that sh*t off.
Makes people uncomfortable, no matter how black your souls have become.

No GI is ever going to change a tire in a sewer unless there absolutely zero chance that sucker is going any farther on the flat. Ain't my tire it's Uncle Sam's

The female contractor with the IED scars. My company has contractors in Iraq, some of them female. A couple have been injured over the past few years. None of them decided to heal up and stick it out. They came home.
They also wear civilian clothes. No "tan uniforms". Anyhow, when I was a GI I sure as h*ll knew a civilian from another GI or an officer.

Of course, none of these are facts... just gut. Still I don't believe that anybody who had done any service time would buy off on these, and only a naive young editor who wants to believe would be sucked in so readily.

Charles... Hunt this *ucker down. Sic the net on him and ratherize his ass.

61 billy hank  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:34:32pm

I'm tremendously heartened by the TNR story. To my mind, it's evidence that The Surge in Iraq is working. Franklin Foer is doing every thing he can to drive The Surge off the front pages and replace it with a good piss on the thuggish, sadistic American soldier story that can dominate the front pages for weeks.

Well, he's done his bit, but the other MSM outlets ain't playing. Even they can smell a rat. It's hell when you get stuck out there in the cold Franklin with no cover fire from your butt buddies. One of Charles' major contributions to Western Civ was making the MSM a bit more cautious about the career destroying implications of snapping at such rotten bait.

Too bad, Franklin. Can you say, "Fries with that?" In Spanish?

62 MICHAEL in MI  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:58:57pm

Charles - I just wanted to say thank you for linking to Greyhawk at Mudville Gazette. The Milbloggers do not get enough publicity and recognition for their absolutely excellent reporting and analysis.

The Left is trying to say that the only people who are attacking the "Shock Troops" story is "the right", when, in fact, it has been the entire Milblog Community which has discredited the story. This is why it is highly important to direct people to the Milblog Community so people realize from where the criticism is coming.

I'd also direct everyone to check out Mrs. Greyhawk's excellent DAWN PATROL, which she posts daily on Mudville Gazette. It is a collection of probably 20-30+ links to milblogs and stories and articles and reports from all over the web regarding the military and the war effort. As well as LiveLeak and YouTube videos of interest and interviews with military leaders, etc. It is an aboslute daily MUST READ. I hope you will direct the readers of LGF there sometime in a thread.

63 Drained Brain  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:40:28am

re: #35 Drained Brain

The same type of article could be written by one who was a doctor, lawyer, or Indian Chief. It could even be written by a disaffected reporter embedded in the MSM but I won't hold my breath waiting for that one to appear.

We all know the intent of the article. Our members of the armed forces are either poor "children" or psychopathic creeps in the eyes of the Left.

Now that Scott Thomas Beauchamp has apparently outed himself, the more important questions of the intent in publishing such a "diary," and the veracity of its entries, can be addressed.

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

64 soulcase  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 6:19:39am

The fact that Foer says "an FOB" says it all.

As it's used, as even the most REMF soldier can tell you, is fob, as in a watch fob. The mere fact that he is most likely pronouncing it as an acronym, i.e. eff-oh-bee, means that he's probably never even talked to someone over there.

Ass.

The fact is, if he ever talked to an authentic cross-section of real soldiers serving in the box, he'd know how ridiculously PC, dress-right-dress it is over there. Can I get an amen?

Sorry for the jargon.

65 Matt99  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 6:46:56am

Source has been outed: Private Scott Thomas Beauchamp.
See Michelle Malkin for details and more links.

66 SunCat  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 9:30:22am

I would like to point out that semiotics is what most people call "symbology". Where postmodernism is mostly crap, semiology is mostly OK.

re: #40 Malleus Dei

I have no idea how anyone with a brain as good as Barnes' is canpossibly be a Leftist; it makes no sense to me whatsoever. Heck, heeven believes in the market. Go figure.

Maybe he is "leftist" the way Roger L. Simon is.


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