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-RetweetWednesday Night Open, with Giuliani Support Plea

Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 8:20:50 pm PDT

Here’s another Wednesday evening open thread, and another plea to LGF readers to contact the Giuliani campaign and tell them you don’t want Rudy to cave in to CAIR’s demands:

Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee
295 Greenwich St, #371, New York, NY 10007
Tel: 212-835-9449, 646-943-7890
E-mail: webteam@joinrudy2008.com

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1 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:21:56pm
2 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:23:47pm
3 Thanos  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:24:11pm

Letter and money sent

4 gringo  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:25:34pm

I emailed him after the first thread.

5 Devil's Advocate  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:25:42pm

New Study Wastes Tax Dollars to Determine that Obesity Is 'Socially Contagious'

Add to you list of government waste and worthless studies: Social Scientists have determined that being friends with fat people makes you fat. So, I guess the scientists' most logical solution is to pick on the fat kids to prevent future heart attacks. I should thank the government for taking money from my paycheck to pay these pathetic scientific posers.

First of all, it is about time that the liberals in this Country make a decision. Either we are a poor Country, or we are an obese Country. We cannot have both. We are the only civilization in the history of the world where our poor people can eat so much that they become obese. I am sure that the starving North Korean citizen who literally has no food to eat only wished he had such a problem.

If anything, this study demonstrates that it is our government that is overfed, not the people. How is it that liberals claim we have no money to fund their programs, but we can afford ridiculous studies like this? I have a solution for the next study: figure out how we can cut government waste.

This whole mindset of using government money to cure obesity is because we fund healthcare with that same government money. If the government was taken out of our healthcare system, individuals would be their own burden. Their neighbors would not have to mortgage their futures due to their fat neighbor sucking up public funds. As a result, we would have real freedom in this Country and the there would be less acts of government to control people.

I personally cannot think of a more absurd roll for government than preventing people from eating fatty foods. If the government can dictate what we choose to eat, just imagine in a few years the new absurdities that will be shoved down our throats. You mark my words; Al Gore will be pushing carbohydrate credits in 2025 when we have to worry about global cooling again.

Devil's Advocate
Editorialist
Copious Dissent - Your Daily Dose of Liberty

6 friarstale  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:25:51pm


that's what I think of CAIR

7 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:27:01pm

Rudy is much bigger than CAIR. He should ignore that nest of villains.

8 Jack Reacher  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:27:31pm

Looking forward to the day the Giuliani administration declares CAIR a terrorist entity.

9 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:28:55pm

Who are the main service providers of Hamas and Hizballah, and where are they located?

35 of those services are provided by American companies
6 of those services are provided by Syria
3 of those services are provided by Canada
3 of those services are provided by Iran
2 of those services are provided by France
1 of those services is provided by Lebanon
1 of those services is provided by Argentina
1 of those services is provided by Spain
1 of those services is provided by Jordan

Do the math - despite the fact that Hizballah is a Designated Terrorist organization, and despite 6 years of publicizing the role of American companies in providing services to Hizballah, they still receive 66% of the services required from American companies.
The list of Hizballah follows. We will post information about Hamas perhaps later this week.

10 bigdicksplace  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:29:30pm

I'm for FRED!

11 ibrodsky  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:29:36pm

Charles,

What makes you think Giuliani will backpedal on this? Is it just a hunch or have you heard something specific?

12 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:29:54pm
13 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:30:11pm

re: #1 song_and_dance_man

Is that something you'll want your grandchildren to see!

14 bosforus  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:30:44pm

just sent another thumbs up email with a different email address. maybe i'll do the same to CAIR.

15 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:31:04pm

re: #10 bigdicksplace

I'm for FRED!

You're in the right place.

16 Canadastani  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:31:42pm

I was at this event (3rd row) and his statement did not seem controversial. Then again linking Islamic and Terrorism is not a casus belli to me.

17 Carridine  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:31:43pm

Already emailed a supportive, rational email.

Will again, wait one.

18 Thanos  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:31:46pm

Time for me to get some zzz's, goodnite all

19 gitarfan  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:32:22pm

DONE!

20 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:32:44pm

Please don't make me explain why 95° F with 90% humidity isn't possible outside of your bathroom when you are taking a shower.


Not even Miami or New Orleans experiences 95° and 90% humidity.

Now, 85° with 95% humidity, on the Gulf Coast, is possible. But the first implies a dewpoint of 91°, which is about impossible, especially anywhere near New York, or Kenosha. Unless a steam line has exploded nearby.

The 85/95% means a dewpoint of 83°, which can occur in late summer in the tropics/sub-tropics.

21 Charles  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:33:09pm

re: #11 ibrodsky

Charles,

What makes you think Giuliani will backpedal on this? Is it just a hunch or have you heard something specific?

No, I haven't heard anything specific. I'm just looking at the current climate of appeasement -- and suffering from a severe case of political mistrust.

22 Piglet-U93  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:33:51pm

Letter sent, joined a group.

I will only vote for someone with backbone - we will see if there are any potential Winston Churchills out there.

Don't let me down Rudy!

Islamic Terrorism (just redundant but otherwise correct).

23 DVol  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:34:07pm

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE

A supportive email is NOT ENOUGH -- Rudy's campaign NEEDS MONEY to battle the terrorist appeasers of the country.

When you email, PLEASE send cash as well ($2300 limit on individual contributions).

24 ted  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:35:09pm

re: #20 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Please don't make me explain why 95° F with 90% humidity isn't possible outside of your bathroom when you are taking a shower.


Not even Miami or New Orleans experiences 95° and 90% humidity.

Now, 85° with 95% humidity, on the Gulf Coast, is possible. But the first implies a dewpoint of 91°, which is about impossible, especially anywhere near New York, or Kenosha. Unless a steam line has exploded nearby.

The 85/95% means a dewpoint of 83°, which can occur in late summer in the tropics/sub-tropics.

Wow, Ed, you were reading my mind!

25 bcgirl  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:35:16pm

This sort of belongs below, but I did email him first..
to CAIR,, NO and FING no,,, go F yourselves,
I don't live in New York and never have even had the pleasure or to visit, but I saw, live in my living room and I went out the next day and bought a framed picture of the Twin Towers, and put up on the wall in my living room, where it still is today. My next president will use the words ISLAMIC MURDERING SCUMBAGS if he wants, and Rudy might/could be him.

26 SeafoodGumbo  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:35:24pm

I've been a supporter of Fred, but if what Debbie Schlussel says is true, Rudy ought to tell CAIR to STFU and differentiate himself from Fred as someone who isn't fooled by Islamists (again, if what Schlussel says is true.

27 psaturn  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:36:50pm

re: #23 DVol

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE

A supportive email is NOT ENOUGH -- Rudy's campaign NEEDS MONEY to battle the terrorist appeasers of the country.

When you email, PLEASE send cash as well ($2300 limit on individual contributions).


You are right...money talks!

But how do you propose sending money via email ?

28 screaming_eagle  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:37:02pm

re: #1 song_and_dance_man

[deleted]

[deleted]

29 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:37:23pm
30 Angel  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:37:33pm

re: #21 Charles


A little pre-emptive strike could never hurt anyway!

I met Rudy a few times..the last time at Ground Zero...He's a New Yorker..if ANYONE should be able to tell them where to go...its him !

31 ted  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:37:41pm

re: #11 ibrodsky

Charles,

What makes you think Giuliani will backpedal on this? Is it just a hunch or have you heard something specific?

Yea Charles, Whats gives ?

Are you hiding something we should know?

32 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:37:51pm

To whom it may concern,

I support Rudy 100%! CAIR is an anti-free speech terrorist appeasing front group.
Freedom of speech is at play. Should the left and radical Islam tell us what we can and can't say?

"Islamic Terrorism" is what we face. Please stand tall!

33 mich-again  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:37:55pm

I think a Rudy vs anyone from CAIR debate would be very compelling TV. Rudy would shred.

34 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:38:06pm
35 PIERRE_LEGRAND[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:38:08pm
36 bosforus  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:38:35pm

re: #27 psaturn

Only $2300?! What am I going to do with all these hundred dollar bills i'm sitting on top of?
/

37 spikester  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:38:36pm

Smart not to use the 'F" word! You could have been deleted!

re: #28 screaming_eagle

re: #1 song_and_dance_man

[deleted]

[deleted]

38 Obsidiandog  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:39:06pm

I'm pretty sure Rudy doesn't give a rat's ass what CAIR thinks or says.

39 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:39:15pm
40 tankdemon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:39:25pm

So, why is CAIR still an unindicted co-conspirator? Can't Eliot Spitzet take time off from harassing capitalists to get CAIR into court?

41 DVol  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:39:29pm

re #27 psaturn

The www.joinrudy2008.com website will take a credit card...Just hit the "Donate" button.

Isn't the Internet GREAT?

42 StarsandStripesForever  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:39:32pm

I sent my e-mail!-

Rudy Giuliani,

Stand strong AGAINST the terrorist-supporting Islamic organization CAIR, and FIGHT against ISLAMIC TERRORISM, Rudy Giuliani! Islamic organizations like CAIR want to overthrow America's secular, Western democracy and replace it with an Islamic theocracy under Shari'a law. The USA needs a leader to STOP that from happening. I hope that leader is you, Mr. Giuliani.

Islam is the cause of Islamic terrorism.

If you want my vote for President of the United States of America in 2008, you will need to acknowledge that Islam is the cause of Islamic terrorism and you will need to state that you will fight this GLOBAL WAR against Islam and Islamic terrorism both here in America and around the world.

You will also need to find a way to eliminate Islam (which is both a religion and a political system) from America.

You impressed me-and my family-greatly post 9/11, when you told the Saudi Wahabbi to take his $10 million dollars and go pound sand! :) You've impressed me with your strong leadership since September 11, 2001.

We need to WIN this potentially generation-long war Islam has declared on the West. Stay strong. Tell America that Islam is the real cause of Islamic terrorism, and you will get my vote for President in 2008.

Signed (my real name)

43 Canadastani  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:39:57pm

20 Ed

Please don't make me explain why 95° F with 90% humidity isn't possible outside of your bathroom when you are taking a shower.


OK, I won't. I promise.

44 tankdemon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:40:17pm

re: #36 bosforus

re: #27 psaturn

Only $2300?! What am I going to do with all these hundred dollar bills i'm sitting on top of?
/

You could send them to me.

45 psaturn  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:40:39pm

re: #34 savage_nation

re: #20 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Please don't make me explain why 95%uFFFD F with 90% humidity isn't possible outside of your bathroom when you are taking a shower.


Not even Miami or New Orleans experiences 95%uFFFD and 90% humidity.

Now,85%uFFFD with 95% humidity, on the Gulf Coast, is possible. But the firstimplies a dewpoint of 91%uFFFD, which is about impossible, especiallyanywhere near New York, or Kenosha. Unless a steam line has explodednearby.

The 85/95% means a dewpoint of 83%uFFFD, which can occur in late summer in the tropics/sub-tropics.

The place I am sitting is less than a mile from Lake Michigan.

I live in Palm Springs and during the monsoon season (usually August) we can get 110 degrees with 90 to 95 % humidity. It gets so bad, we cannot even see the mountain (San Jacinto) which is about 10 miles from where I am.

46 ibrodsky  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:40:41pm

I don't think there is any way a Republican can win in 2008 just by avoiding controversy.

Giuliani (or whoever) must first develop a loyal base of support. The number of people who will abandon Giuliani because he insisted on using the term "Islamic terrorism" is miniscule compared to the number that will be disillusioned if he caves into CAIR.

47 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:40:54pm
48 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:41:01pm
49 Angel  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:41:24pm

"Islamic Terrorism" "Islamic Terrorism" "Islamic Terrorism" "Islamic Terrorism" "Islamic Terrorism" "Islamic Terrorism" "Islamic Terrorism" "Islamic Terrorism"...
wow its kinna catchy after a while...

50 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:41:27pm

You can tell that the active tropical wave in the Western Gulf has high ambitions to be a tropical cyclone, but the almost 30 knots of shear, as estimated by satellite and provided by the U-Wisconsin CIMSS site, means development, if any, will be slow and the system will run out of time over water.

But golly, with a new upper low cutting off in SW Texas, and rivers and reservoirs full, that tropical wave isn't a friend to Texas.


Potential threat about August 5th to Carolinas, August 6th (+/- a day and a half) for NY/NE now about 32° W in the deep tropical North Atlantic.

51 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:41:34pm

I do not want to say if I contact anyone PERIOD.

52 screaming_eagle  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:42:12pm

re: #37 spikester

Fine.

53 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:42:30pm

Will send an email. I don't think Rudy will back down, after all he is the MAN that say no thanks to the saudi prince's millions.

OT: Oscar the hospice cat predicts when patients will die:
[Link: my.earthlink.net...]

54 DVol  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:43:10pm

re: #39 savage_nation

I'm merely pointing out that in 21st century US presidential politics, a large war chest is critical to success.

55 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:43:14pm

Im for fred, but if rudy gets the nomination, i wont be too disappointed.

56 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:43:36pm
57 Carridine  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:43:51pm

re: #16 Canadastani

Then again linking Islamic and Terrorism is not a casus belli to me.


As I study the 6 Documentary films on Nazi/Axis aggression in WWII, and how WWII started when Japan invaded Manchuria in 1927, but America didn't jump in until Dec 8th, 1941, I am struck by the many non-casus belli actions of the Axis and their parallels today:

-sending 'students' and 'businessmen' abroad in the thousands
-using the 'students' & 'businessmen' as Fifth Columns when needed
-lies, propaganda and BIG LIES
-dissembling, pretending reasonable-then-reverting
-using Truce as "Re-Arm and Prepare for More Attacking!" (hudna)
-Jew-fear, Jew-hatred
-overt racial-superiority (Aryan Germans, Islamic Arabs)

...and the list goes on, Canadastani!
Why We Fight!

58 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:44:07pm

re: #38 Obsidiandog I agree with you and - after reading Charles discussion in the last thread, sent Rudy's Webteam an e-mail expressing my support of his fighting back at CAIR and mentioned that they have less than three thousand members and are an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas funding trial!
I don't think Rudy needs support on this and I don't think Charles is "holding something back" from us, either. I think Charles is merely continuing his attacks on CAIR's attacks on the American People.

59 lowandslow  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:44:13pm

re: #26 SeafoodGumbo

I've been a supporter of Fred, but if what Debbie Schlussel says is true, Rudy ought to tell CAIR to STFU and differentiate himself from Fred as someone who isn't fooled by Islamists (again, if what Schlussel says is true.

Not good.

60 mich-again  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:44:59pm

Like the man said, journalists have a duty to associate Islam and terrorism because the terrorists themselves proclaim they kill for Allah and even name their groups with Islamic references.

If reporting those details hurts a "moderate" Muslim's feelings, too f-ing bad. Stop the terrorists or start your own religion.

61 bosforus  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:45:09pm

re: #44 tankdemon

re: #36 bosforus

re: #27 psaturn

Only $2300?! What am I going to do with all these hundred dollar bills i'm sitting on top of?
/

You could send them to me.

nah, i'm pretty sure if i stuff them in my CD (does that stand for Cash Direct) drive I can send it all to joinrudy2008.com

62 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:46:18pm

Rudy & Co. wouldn't give me a job...so, to quote Kos...screw 'em!

63 dr. akim ullsheetbay  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:46:39pm

i bet they take paypal at rudy's site.

speaking of paypal...when was the last time anyone kicked lgf a few bucks...

go charles go!

64 Dublin(CA)Dude  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:46:48pm

#30 Angel

I sure hope you're right! Actually, I know you're right. I'm backing Rudy 100% so I'm praying you're right.

How are you by the way? Hope you are holding up.

65 Piglet-U93  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:46:55pm

Dear Rudy Giuliani,

I totally support you in regards to linking the faith of Islam to terrorism, even if it is a bit subtle.

I have read these books the Qur'an, Ahadith and the Life of Mohammad.
Mohammad was a terrorist and so are his followers. Islam has not been highjacked.
Islamic Terrorism is a fulfillment of the teachings of Mohammad.
I know more now about this poor excuse for a religion then I ever wanted to know.

Did you know that Qur'an is not in chronological order but in order from largest to smallest chapter?

Did you know that the Qur'an is also logically divided into two main sections. The earlier (peaceful) Meccan section followed chronologically by the later (violent, intolerant) section?

Did you know that all of the peaceful verses have been abrogated by the violent verses. Sure the peaceful verses are still in the Qur'an but are not to be followed and are only used in this era for deceiving the Infidels (Non-Muslims)?

Did you know that once Islam calls a country to convert to Islam and they do not that all inhabitants of that country are fair game for killing?

Did you know that able Muslims are to fight in the way of Allah with their lives and property until the entire world belongs to Allah alone?

The West is approaching a crossroad and the direction we take will mean life or death. Choose wisely.

Please kindly consider these references for you and your staff to research.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ (Islamic Terrorist attacks since 9/11 and alot more frightening stuff)
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/ (An analysis of Islamic scriptures and the commandments to kill...)
and
http://listislam.cjb.net/ (The truth about Islam from former Muslims, many other religions, groups and countries from around the world)

Respectfully,

(my real name)

66 Carridine  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:47:51pm

re: #57 Carridine

To amplify: ANY ONE of those isn't enough, in and of itself, to be a casus belli (a reason for war).

But taken together, especially in light of how World War II turned out, they are definitely signs of impending distress and friction!

67 EE  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:47:58pm
Here’s another Wednesday evening open thread, and another plea to LGF readers to contact the Giuliani campaign and tell them you don’t want Rudy to cave in to CAIR’s demands:

Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee
295 Greenwich St, #371, New York, NY 10007
Tel: 212-835-9449, 646-943-7890
E-mail: webteam@joinrudy2008.com

This is important, because if we are unable to identify the war that we are in, which involves terrorism but also a dangerous death-cult ideology tied to religious fervor and a supremacy concept, we will not be able to act effectively. It's important to be able to speak about Islamic terrorism, because if we cannot speak the truth we will be hampered in trying to think the truth.

For CAIR to be able to stop Rudy from speaking the truth, and speaking about Islamic terrorism, would be a bad blow that will not help the pubic think clearly about the threat. I sent an email to the webteam address shown. I am hoping that many other lizards, besides those who mentioned that they had emailed, will also contact them and ask that they don't cave in to what CAIR is demanding.

68 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:48:47pm

re: #59 lowandslow

re: #26 SeafoodGumbo


I've been a supporter of Fred, but if what Debbie Schlussel says is true, Rudy ought to tell CAIR to STFU and differentiate himself from Fred as someone who isn't fooled by Islamists (again, if what Schlussel says is true.

Not good.

Fred just lost my support with this announcement.

69 Carridine  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:49:04pm

re: #65 Piglet-U93

Good going, Piglet! GOOD!

70 Bobibutu  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:49:09pm

re: #26 SeafoodGumbo

I've been a supporter of Fred, but if what Debbie Schlussel says is true, Rudy ought to tell CAIR to STFU and differentiate himself from Fred as someone who isn't fooled by Islamists (again, if what Schlussel says is true.

Nuts! And I was really getting to like Fred.

71 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:49:11pm

re: #43 Canadastani

um growing up in ohio i can assure you there were days in the summer with 90+ temps and 90+ humidity.

72 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:49:31pm
73 infidelboy  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:49:49pm

I really appreciate this type of info from all the regulars. I can't keep watch on all issues daily, but check up here for what I consider the really important stuff, and did email the John Doe letter someone posted to my crazy california reps. I see it got through; thank goodness.

And I will support this also.

Just a big 'Thanks' to those who keep watch, we busy ones appreciate what you do to protect us.

74 hazzyday  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:49:50pm

I sent Rudy my support.

i would send money but strippers have all my cash this week. they seem to be Ron Paul supporters as a group also. He has made in roads in that job field for some reason I haven't figured out yet.

75 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:49:58pm

re: #34 savage_nation

re: #20 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


Please don't make me explain why 95%uFFFD F with 90% humidity isn't possible outside of your bathroom when you are taking a shower.


Not even Miami or New Orleans experiences 95%uFFFD and 90% humidity.

Now, 85%uFFFD with 95% humidity, on the Gulf Coast, is possible. But the first implies a dewpoint of 91%uFFFD, which is about impossible, especially anywhere near New York, or Kenosha. Unless a steam line has exploded nearby.

The 85/95% means a dewpoint of 83%uFFFD, which can occur in late summer in the tropics/sub-tropics.


The place I am sitting is less than a mile from Lake Michigan.


Lake Michigan, mid lake, is 69°. (Not even 21° C.)


It isn't going to cause dewpoint values of 90&deg. Your humidity is coming from moisture evaporated off the Gulf, maybe South Atlantic and Caribbean. Some recycled via evapiro-transpiration. But basically, the Gulf.

The Gulf is averaging around 30°.


Hmmm, Milwaukee dewpoints and humidity values actually darned comfortable. Not just comfortable by Southern standards, no, comfortable even by Yankee summer-time standards.

76 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:49:59pm

Seriously, though I think it would actually be more prudent to NOT send him a poopload of emails saying not to give in & just see what kind of guy Rudy is!

I would rather find out now that he is the type to cave in to CAIR, than after he has already become POTUS.

77 Angel  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:50:06pm

re: #64 Dublin(CA)Dude

Hey there!
Doing good buddy!..08 is comin too fast though!
hows by u? :)

78 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:50:30pm

re: #10 bigdicksplace andre: #15 cbinflux
Y'all ought to at least read the link in SeafoodGumbo's #26 if you're for Fred.

79 spikester  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:50:40pm

Nooo! Not the "F" ine word!
Why do you mock me?


re: #52 screaming_eagle

re: #37 spikester

Fine.

80 infidelboy  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:50:50pm

p.s. I hate CAIR

81 Angel  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:51:19pm

re: #65 Piglet-U93

Well its a good thing ya didn't sign it Piglet! Ha

82 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:51:55pm
83 Angel  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:52:58pm

Someone please explain to me how CAIR has gotten all this ill conceived power that we should even give a rats tuchus what they think or threaten!

84 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:53:41pm
85 insanity police  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:54:04pm

Rudy is the man. Charles is the man too for supporting him.

Nighttime reading:
Moonbats in Detroit proclaim "Death to Zionism"

86 Dublin(CA)Dude  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:54:20pm

#77 Angel

Hanging in there! Time does seem to rush by, doesn't it. Had the pleasure of meeting fellow lizards Dianna and Carolina Girl two weeks back at a housewarming for Dianna in San Jose. Nice people.

87 Irene NYC[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:55:06pm
88 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:55:09pm

re: #82 savage_nation

re: #68 newsjunkie_ky


re: #59 lowandslow

re: #26 SeafoodGumbo

I've been a supporter of Fred, but if what Debbie Schlussel says is true, Rudy ought to tell CAIR to STFU and differentiate himself from Fred as someone who isn't fooled by Islamists (again, if what Schlussel says is true.

Not good.

Fred just lost my support with this announcement.

Me too. One disappointment after another.

Dammit, just like flies in butter who are we goona trust in '08?

89 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:55:11pm
90 Muadib  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:55:18pm

Rudy, stay in the fight and give 'em hell.

91 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:55:23pm

When I see the pilgrims swirling around the kabba it reminds me of the Leni Riefenstahl film of the Nuremberg rally.

Go ahead and say that too, Rudi.

92 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:55:25pm

re: #23 DVol

I tried sending Rudi a dollar through my computer cupholder, but it couldn't send it!

93 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:55:44pm

re: #71 francisco d'anconia Most definitely. The whole region can get unbelievably hot and humid.

Last July my son was in a soccer tournament in Chicago. There were a number of occasions where players from California teams had to get helped off the field from heat exhaustion type symptoms. Their parents were saying how they had never played in such stifling heat and humidity. We're like, uhh its like this a lot of the time here in the Midwest.

94 kaboomboom  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:56:39pm

#49 Angel

ROFL!

I sent my email, though I probably won't vote for Rudy in the primary.

Regardless, these scumbags need to be opposed every time at every level. (Could RICO statutes apply?)

I encouraged Rudy to turn the table on these lowlife losers and shine the light of truth into what they are doing. Let's make them the story for all of the country to see.

Stand strong everyone and do not be intimidated into silence. The 2nd Amendment sure is handy during times like these.


P.S. "Islamic Terrorism, Islamic Terrorism, Islamic Terrorism, Islamic Terrorism, Islamic Terrorism, Islamic Terrorism, Islamic Terrorism!"

Okay, off to bed now...

95 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:57:02pm

re: #45 psaturn

re: #34 savage_nation


re: #20 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Please don't make me explain why 95© F with 90% humidity isn't possible outside of your bathroom when you are taking a shower.


Not even Miami or New Orleans experiences 95© and 90% humidity.

Now,85© with 95% humidity, on the Gulf Coast, is possible. But the firstimplies a dewpoint of 91©, which is about impossible, especiallyanywhere near New York, or Kenosha. Unless a steam line has explodednearby.

The 85/95% means a dewpoint of 83©, which can occur in late summer in the tropics/sub-tropics.


The place I am sitting is less than a mile from Lake Michigan.

I live in Palm Springs and during the monsoon season (usually August) we can get 110 degrees with 90 to 95 % humidity. It gets so bad, we cannot even see the mountain (San Jacinto) which is about 10 miles from where I am.


No, you can't.

The 110°, yes. But trust me, even in 'monsoon' season, your dewpoints rarely exceed 70° F. That is below 30% relative humidity. Now, at 7 am, when the temp is in the 70s, your RH is in the 90s.

BTW, moisture isn't the only think that reduces visibility. Dust, haze, smoke, that good stuff.

BTW, the 30% RH stuff is why parts of the West get 'dry' thunderstorms. Because the humidity is low, the cloud bases are high to begin with, and with dry air, the rain evaporates. If the thunderstorm is dropping enough rain, and the air is dry enough, so that all or most of the rain evaporates, the air cools to near the dewpoint, cold air is denser than warm air, and wham-bam thank you mam, impressive downburst winds, enough to cause the big dust storms. (Forget the Arizona name, from the Arabic, something like haloub). Those 'dry' thunderstorms still make lightning, and start a lot of fires.

96 bosforus  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:57:36pm

re: #67 EE

exactly. it's easier to say you have a solution to a problem if you can blur the initial problem enough to fit your solution. even better is to just say there was no problem to start with.

97 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:58:05pm

re: #68 newsjunkie_ky

if all that is true, guiliani might have a new supporter. have to look into it.

98 theblakester  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:58:28pm

Tried calling Rudy's phone numbers. They were not taking any calls. Guess I'll e-mail. If we can't call a spade a spade, then what the F$%&!

99 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:59:01pm

re: #94 kaboomboom

re the 2nd amendment, Machiavelli said that there is simply no comparison between a man who is armed and one who is not;

And further, why should a man who is wrong, and armed, pay any attention at all to a man who is right, and not armed.

Course, M. was anticipating...

100 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:59:12pm

email header ->Break CAIR
Dear Mr. Giuliani,
CAIR is nothing but an active seditious enemy in our own backyard. It needs destroyed. Please do so.
Thanks


Hope it doesn't look to much like a form letter...

101 Cognito  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:59:15pm

Whoa! Jay Leno is doing a whole sketch about Al-Qaeda and its pretend frontman in Iraq. (They hired an actor, in case anyone missed it.)

Jay: Do you have any groupies?
AQ man: Leave the camels out of this.

102 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:59:49pm
103 Canadastani  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 8:59:49pm

57 Carridine

You're right on target - the list of casus belli committed by our foes goes on and on and on.
Frankly, the very fact that CAIR is a terrorist group and yet operates publicly disgusts me. They are treated by many as if they really represent an interest group of citizens - like the NRA or a union - without any fear of being shut down.
Advocate the overthrow of the present form of government and represent a violent extremist group - I don't know, that SEEMS like the kind of thing you could shut down.

My point, naturally, is that our legitimate references to these obvious truths should not be news, let alone an excuse for a terror front group to absurdly accuse us of intolerance.

The echoes of WWII are ominous, but the most powerful one is that so many folks in the West - North America and Europe - just want to be left alone. They want this to pass by. If we just keep talking and leave them alone this will all go away. Whether we view today as the late 30's prelude to war or the "phony war" of Brits and French sitting on the Western Front waiting for the Germans to finish up the Poles and (hopefully) not attack. Just sad.

104 doppelganglander  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:00:01pm

Email sent. For this, I don't even mind opening myself up to endless fundraising appeals. My subject line: Who CAIRs?

105 Angel  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:00:05pm

re: #94 kaboomboom


Nite nite and sweet dreamn~!

106 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:00:43pm

re: #68 newsjunkie_ky

re: #59 lowandslow


re: #26 SeafoodGumbo

I've been a supporter of Fred, but if what Debbie Schlussel says is true, Rudy ought to tell CAIR to STFU and differentiate himself from Fred as someone who isn't fooled by Islamists (again, if what Schlussel says is true.

Not good.

Fred just lost my support with this announcement.

Why wouldn't one lousy, lazy ex-Senator skilled only in lobbying and backroom deals hire another one?

107 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:00:51pm

Screw the two-party system! Tonight, I announce my candidacy for the President of the United States! I am running on the Continuous Party ticket, and am beholden to no special interest, since I am the only member of my party! I had my convention a few minutes ago, and by unanimous consent of the member present, I won the nomination! So, those of you in write-in states, I'd sincerely appreciate your vote.

My platform - Take the best what Tancredo and Giuliani stand for, and you have me.

Vote ME in '08!

(mad applause ensues!) Thank you, thank you all very much!

("Hail to the Chief" plays...!)

108 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:01:03pm

re: #95 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #45 psaturn


re: #34 savage_nation

re: #20 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Please don't make me explain why 95© F with 90% humidity isn't possible outside of your bathroom when you are taking a shower.
Not even Miami or New Orleans experiences 95© and 90% humidity.

Now,85© with 95% humidity, on the Gulf Coast, is possible. But the firstimplies a dewpoint of 91©, which is about impossible, especiallyanywhere near New York, or Kenosha. Unless a steam line has explodednearby.

The 85/95% means a dewpoint of 83©, which can occur in late summer in the tropics/sub-tropics.


The place I am sitting is less than a mile from Lake Michigan.

I live in Palm Springs and during the monsoon season (usually August) we can get 110 degrees with 90 to 95 % humidity. It gets so bad, we cannot even see the mountain (San Jacinto) which is about 10 miles from where I am.

No, you can't.

The 110°, yes. But trust me, even in 'monsoon' season, your dewpoints rarely exceed 70° F. That is below 30% relative humidity. Now, at 7 am, when the temp is in the 70s, your RH is in the 90s.

BTW, moisture isn't the only think that reduces visibility. Dust, haze, smoke, that good stuff.

BTW, the 30% RH stuff is why parts of the West get 'dry' thunderstorms. Because the humidity is low, the cloud bases are high to begin with, and with dry air, the rain evaporates. If the thunderstorm is dropping enough rain, and the air is dry enough, so that all or most of the rain evaporates, the air cools to near the dewpoint, cold air is denser than warm air, and wham-bam thank you mam, impressive downburst winds, enough to cause the big dust storms. (Forget the Arizona name, from the Arabic, something like haloub). Those 'dry' thunderstorms still make lightning, and start a lot of fires.


30% RH I wish. Come late Octber the Santa Anas come roaring in from the Great Basin through the Cajon pass, we wish for 30% RH at that time of year.

109 DesertSage  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:01:38pm

Courage!

Courage!

110 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:01:40pm

re: #101 Cognito

Whoa! Jay Leno is doing a whole sketch about Al-Qaeda and its pretend frontman in Iraq. (They hired an actor, in case anyone missed it.)

Jay: Do you have any groupies?
AQ man: Leave the camels out of this.

Funny stuff

111 Angel  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:01:45pm

re: #86 Dublin(CA)Dude


Aw...so nice to meet bloggers and Lizards!

In the meantime the Madrassa in Brooklyn is still slated to open!..blech!

112 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:02:08pm
113 DVol  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:02:21pm

re: #106 cbinflux


Why wouldn't one lousy, lazy ex-Senator skilled only in lobbying and backroom deals hire another one?

That's not fair -- he's a pretty good actor, too!

114 hazzyday  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:02:21pm

RE Fred Thompson. That would seal the deal against him for me. I lean his way every now and then. I'm not for coddling Islamist's by inviting them over to dinner. My litmus test is that they have to support Israel first. If they can't, they can't play on my team. They can support Israel and still get all the Palestinian laundry washed that they want to. The only reason they don't support Israel is because they want space to kill Jews.

115 bosforus  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:02:24pm

re: #107 6pat6

(mad applause ensues!)

ha ha! that's enough to get my vote.

116 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:02:59pm

I was in SoCal in the El Niño year of 1992, and it almost Gulf Coast humid a few days, even rained in July, for the first time in about forever, in Bakersfield.

I liked to watch the lightning storms over the Sierra, happened several times a week.

117 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:02:59pm
118 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:03:15pm
another plea to LGF readers to contact the Giuliani campaign and tell them you don’t want Rudy to cave in to CAIR’s demands

I'm on it.

119 DesertSage  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:04:04pm

re: #117 savage_nation

re: #109 DesertSage

Courage!

Courage!

Ron Paul! 6pat6! DesertSage!

Ron Paul! Savage! Angel!

120 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:04:09pm

re: #107 6pat6

Screw the two-party system! Tonight, I announce my candidacy for the President of the United States! I am running on the Continuous Party ticket, and am beholden to no special interest, since I am the only member of my party! I had my convention a few minutes ago, and by unanimous consent of the member present, I won the nomination! So, those of you in write-in states, I'd sincerely appreciate your vote.

My platform - Take the best what Tancredo and Giuliani stand for, and you have me.

Vote ME in '08!

(mad applause ensues!) Thank you, thank you all very much!

("Hail to the Chief" plays...!)


You'll have to wait until the '12 elections, I move that Charles runs for POTUS in "08 with zombie as his "Karl Rove".

121 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:04:30pm

They love me! they really, really love me!

...oh, damn, someone already took that line...crap!

122 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:04:52pm

When it is too dry in So. Cal they get fires in the Chapparall in the mountains.

123 Irene NYC[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:05:02pm
124 Charles  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:05:21pm

Rudy's phone numbers have been overloaded since CAIR announced their campaign against him today. That's why I have a second post on this subject -- because it's important. Big pressure is being put on Giuliani to compromise his stance on Islamic terrorism; we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg.

125 Angel  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:05:37pm

Nite nite sweet peeps!

at least we got John Doe...almost!

126 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:05:46pm

Oh yes, during the Santa Ana wind events, RH can drop down to 5% or lower.

From the ever helpful NWS El Paso, TX NWS office.

Humidity/Dewpoint and Wet Bulb conversions for fun and profit.

127 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:05:49pm
128 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:06:05pm

re: #108 kreigwagon Um, y'all looking for a VP running mate? Cause I'm like, available!

129 Canadastani  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:06:09pm

71 franciso d'anconia

Believe me, I know humidity. I lived in South Carolina for a couple years. I was just replying to Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet (#20) posting on his own private Weather Channel thread. Sort of like doing a little Koran blogging on a Particle Physics board. Not that there's anything wrong with that, just a little change of pace and I was recognizing it.

130 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:07:26pm
131 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:07:38pm

re: #124 Charles

how do we know the phones arent being inundated with people telling him to stick to his guns? i really dont think too many people that support Cair (democrats) would call Rudi. They would just call their people and make donations.

132 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:07:45pm
133 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:07:47pm

I'll be proud to announce my proposed cabinet soon, all consisting of proud Lizardians form all over! I will have a REAL diverse Administration, not just the eyewash of the past!

134 John Schneider  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:08:00pm

re: #53 newsjunkie_ky

OT: Oscar the hospice cat predicts when patients will die:


[Link: my.earthlink.net...]

Never know...Maybe the cat is killing them...

135 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:08:00pm

re: #124 Charles

Can you make his e-address "active" here?

136 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:08:04pm
137 Charles  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:08:23pm

re: #131 francisco d'anconia

re: #124 Charles

how do we know the phones arent being inundated with people telling him to stick to his guns? i really dont think too many people that support Cair (democrats) would call Rudi. They would just call their people and make donations.

Because the lines were shut down before I posted about this.

138 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:08:24pm

re: #20 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Please don't make me explain why 95° F with 90% humidity isn't possible outside of your bathroom when you are taking a shower.
Not even Miami or New Orleans experiences 95° and 90% humidity.
blockquote>

But Ed, some days here in the N.O. and B.R. area it sure feels like 95 with 90% humidity. Miserable.

On topic, sending Rudy a message immediately.

139 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:08:39pm

BTW, Fred is looking especially gray and haggard these days. Would he survive a first term?

That job really ages one.

140 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:08:48pm
141 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:09:21pm

re: #126 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Oh yes, during the Santa Ana wind events, RH can drop down to 5% or lower.

From the ever helpful NWS El Paso, TX NWS office.

Humidity/Dewpoint and Wet Bulb conversions for fun and profit.


So Ed, when are you gonna replace Dallas Raines @KABC 7 in L.A. (not Lower Alabama)?

142 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:09:21pm

re: #125 Angel Um, what do you mean "almost" got John Doe? I though it passed with the John Doe protections in it?!

143 Dublin(CA)Dude  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:09:39pm

#111 Angel

I assume Bloomberg supports this Madrassa? And he wants to run for president. Damn, you guy really need another Rudy.


BTW, my continued thanks for the incredible work that you do. You are in my prayers always.

144 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:09:52pm

But, one of my first acts as POTUS will be to BAN such L3 terms as "diversity" and "inclusiveness"!

145 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:10:08pm

re: #124 Charles

And I was going to call, but if the phones are flooded, maybe an email would be better. Thanks, Charles.

146 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:10:09pm

Rudy has facts and reason and great delivery.

CAIR's only hope is to drown him out.

147 Milk Toast Intolerant  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:10:11pm

Dear Mayor Giuliani,

While browsing the blog Little Green Footballs, I learn that the Council on American Islamic Relations has issued an "Action Alert" on you because you persisted in using the phrase "Islamic terrorism." I am writing to ask and plead with you to NOT BACK DOWN from Cair's bullying tactics. If someone as tenacious as you backs down from CAIR, what hope is there left for America? I saw how you handled the 10 million dollar donation from the Saudi prince, and I greatly respected you for that.

Don't fail me now.
Don't fail us now.
Don't fail America in her time of need.

We need a leader with a strong backbone to fight Islamic terrorism. Are you that man we've been searching for?

Sincerely,
xxx


/whatcha think?

148 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:10:13pm

re: #133 6pat6

I support the destruction of the NEA, Both of them. can I be Education secretary? first order of business, eliminate my job by dismantling the department of education!

149 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:10:19pm

At least, as they have perverted their usage!

150 Dublin(CA)Dude  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:10:19pm

#128 realwest

I'd vote for you! :)

151 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:10:33pm

re: #144 6pat6

Uh, freedom of speech?

152 lowandslow  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:10:56pm

re: #107 6pat6

You'll have a first class seat on Air Force One and an awesome pad in Washington,,, Washington D.C.
You'll play golf all day with heads of states and if they bring beer wouldn't that be great.
A Vote for me is a Vote for me.

153 screaming_eagle  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:11:01pm

re: #107 6pat6

by unanimous consent of the member present

So it wasn't even close huh?

154 DesertSage  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:11:07pm

re: #136 savage_nation

I see you're pissing people off tonight.

As your friend I guess I'm the one that will have to say this...Knock it off.

155 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:11:09pm

Oh, man, is there another candidate in the midst? Realwest, say it ain't so!

156 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:11:11pm
157 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:11:11pm

re: #124 Charles

Thanks for the diligence.

158 Irene NYC  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:11:40pm

re: #130 savage_nation


Well, I'm sorry to piss you off, but you will always know where I stand.


You're not. Comments like that just make me cringe. I try to send people to LGF and a lot of people are just turned off by that sort of stuff. Only an immature jerk needs to resort to such language to try to "communicate" where they stand.

Oh, and there was nothing wrong with someone proposing people send contributions to Rudy's campaign. Your response was way out of line.

159 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:11:49pm

re: #137 Charles

Lots of good people out there who havent found this site, yet. they will eventually. I heard rudy's comments from Drudge, sure many others did too.

160 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:12:07pm

Goodnight all

161 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:12:36pm

I've considered running for Township Supervisor and my only campaign promise would be to dissolve the Township. Too many cockroaches in the house. Gotta tear it down.

162 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:12:39pm

re: #153 screaming_eagle

Nope. It defined the term landslide victory! Even dictators like Saddam and his ilk can't claim 100%!

163 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:13:16pm

re: #128 realwest

re: #108 kreigwagon Um, y'all looking for a VP running mate? Cause I'm like, available!


You're up for the job but no pseudo-science bullshit and btw the way, do you speak with fire in your voice? Gore puts me to sleep even when the wine doesn't.

164 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:13:52pm

re: #150 Dublin(CA)Dude Whoo - Hoo - that's two votes! LOL!
Thanks Dublin(CA)Dude - I appreciate it and you can send your generous campaign contribution to my snail mail addy which I believe you already have.
And if you can round up 8 more votes and money, I'll make you Secretary of whatever you want!

165 Irene NYC  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:14:32pm

realwest

You've got my vote too. So that makes three.
;)

166 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:14:50pm

re: #148 francisco d'anconia

You are in the running! I intend to dissolve the Education Dept in its entirety.

167 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:15:07pm
168 Dublin(CA)Dude  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:15:28pm

#164 realwest

I want to be Surgeon General. There is a urologist I'd like to skewer, as you know.

169 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:16:25pm

re: #155 6pat6

There is and there are - I are running! I've already got two votes for me with money just pouring in!A*


But I can be persuaded (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) to drop out of the race!

170 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:16:53pm

164 Realwest

Dude, I just want to walk around Government run construction project sites wearing a hardhat and carrying a clipboard. Can you hook me up?

171 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:17:02pm

Oh, and I'll say it up front - I can be bought as POTUS! So, bring your jukebox money, we'll ride in my Chrysler that seats about twenty and hop on down to the Loovvve Shack!

...Campaign HQ! Gotta love a band named the B-52s!

172 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:17:03pm

re: #129 Canadastani

71 franciso d'anconia

Believe me, I know humidity. I lived in South Carolina for a couple years. I was just replying to Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet (#20) posting on his own private Weather Channel thread. Sort of like doing a little Koran blogging on a Particle Physics board. Not that there's anything wrong with that, just a little change of pace and I was recognizing it.

Just trying to correct a common error. I've recently been introduced to Storm2k.org, with a healthy mix of posters of both dedicated amateur (like myself) and degreed professional mets.


Dr. Master's knows of what he talks, but most of the Wunderground tropical blog posters, where I also sometimes post, have premature explodations, seeing every thunderstorm anywhere in the Atlantic as the next Katrina.

But at both boards, attacks on Bush and 'neo-cons' are tolerated, my few reponses have earned me warnings and post deletions from the admins, so only here can one enjoy the two most interesting topics, well, 5 if you add football, drinking and auto racing, on one blog.

173 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:17:07pm

re: #166 6pat6

sweet. While we're at it, how about eliminating the provision in the transportation budget that withholds federal funds if the state doesnt have a drinking age of 21? You can vote and be drafted but not drink, wtf?

174 DesertSage  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:17:07pm

Realwest is running for office?
Can I be campaign manager?

175 Charles  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:17:52pm

This is a vitally important issue. It's not the place to have petty personal fights, and I'm going to start banning people unless they get a grip.

176 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:17:57pm

re: #168 Dublin(CA)Dude Okey Dokey = you got it (as long as you promise me you'll, um, investigate two other doctors for me!). Seems a shame a man of your talents has to "settle" for Surgeon General, though!

177 Canadastani  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:17:59pm

158 Irene NYC

I try to send people to LGF and a lot of people are just turned off by that sort of stuff.

Not that Irene needs anyone to support her, but I totally agree with her. It is not difficult to make your point clearly. Being vulgar just lets people get away with comparing this to KOS or the HufPo. Kind of like typing in ALL CAPS, being vulgar takes away from whatever point you were trying to make and makes the rest of us look bad.

178 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:18:15pm

re: #171 6pat6
ROFL!

179 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:18:47pm

re: #147 Milk Toast Intolerant

Good. I said he didn't need me to tell him not to cave to saudi special interests, but that he needed to know we're behind him.

180 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:19:28pm

re: #170 Mich-again Why yes, yes I can! How much did you pledge for my campaign again?!

181 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:19:34pm

re: #172 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

did you happen to see on drudge that the "experts" were downgrading their predictions for for this Hurricane season. funny stuff, you'd think they would have learned after last year.

182 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:20:05pm

I fully intend to let the States set the drinking age as they see fit, since that is obviously a state's rights issue. Same with the Transportation Dept and their legal blackmail tactics to withhoild Federal money for a variety of things - this must stop! - in ALL Cabinet-level positions!

183 screaming_eagle  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:20:32pm

re: #107 6pat6

Make me a Government tester of new weapons systems and I'll vote for you.

I just wanna blow sh*t up.

184 SeafoodGumbo  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:20:42pm

If Rudy was right on illegals and guns, I'd be enthused about his candidacy, but he's been on the wrong side of both of those issues. Isn't there one damned politician out there who is a hard-ass terrorist fighter, doesn't want to take citizens' guns, and believes that illegal immigration is wrong?

Maybe Duncan Hunter will start to get some traction.

185 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:20:52pm

re: #174 DesertSage Yup, but I'm warning ya, Noam is gonna be upset unless he can be co-campaign manager!

186 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:21:29pm

re: #183 screaming_eagle

You are the new SecDef! Congrats!

187 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:21:34pm

re: #182 6pat6

amen, you've got my vote.

188 lowandslow  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:21:40pm

I don't care where I fit into the realwest administration, I just want to be the first to be under investigation for a money for favors scandal, or better yet, a sex scandal with me and a few twentysomething year old, hot, female assistants.

189 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:21:45pm

Oh, my. Perfect.

I hereby apologize to the lizards who followed my blatherings early this a.m. when I spoke of the "sauce" recipe.

I did correct that it was not a marinara recipe. But, I believe I did so after Mike C. asked for the recipe.

190 DVol  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:21:49pm

re: #182 6pat6

I fully intend to let the States set the drinking age as they see fit, since that is obviously a state's rights issue. Same with the Transportation Dept and their legal blackmail tactics to withhoild Federal money for a variety of things - this must stop! - in ALL Cabinet-level positions!

OK, now you've got my attention. Can we dissolve the Interstate Commerce Commission as well?

191 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:21:50pm

Edwards talks issues, borrows butt salve

After riding from just north of Dumont to Kesley, Edwards wrapped his arms around a several riders from Team Killer Bees for a photo, but declined be held aloft in their traditional sideways pose. "You'd drop me, then I couldn't be president," he joked.

Then he sat down in Kesley for a diet soda and a pork chop. "My second," he said.

The candidate was sweaty after about a dozen miles, but there was no evidence of helmet hair.

As the pack crammed together to let a car pass, Edwards wobbled a little and veered around a rider.

Graduate student Allison Vos of Chapel Hill, N.C., told Edwards that people probably didn't realize he was in the group of cyclists hanging back from those encircling the cycling champion.

"That's just fine with me," said Edwards, who had a chain grease "tattoo" on his right calf.

"This is actually not hard, this is fun," Edwards said as he climbed a hill on County Road T16 on a black Trek road bike he borrowed for the day. "The biggest problem is my butt hurts. Is that normal?"

"Do you want some Chamois Butt'r?" Peter Klein, of Beloit, Wisc., asked him.

"What's that?" Edwards said

192 Northpaw  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:21:51pm

I sent a succinct email...

Re: CAIR:

Please tell them go pound sand. Thank you.

193 tankdemon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:21:57pm

re: #163 kreigwagon

re: #128 realwest


re: #108 kreigwagon Um, y'all looking for a VP running mate? Cause I'm like, available!

You're up for the job but no pseudo-science bullshit and btw the way, do you speak with fire in your voice? Gore puts me to sleep even when the wine doesn't.

Hey, realwest, I have brimstone! But I don't think you'd want me as VP, being that my first act in office would be to get my staff acting upon plans to ensure that my succession to the top spot would be swift and appear unintentional.

194 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:22:44pm

re: #190 DVol

The ICC is toast! My bro drives a truck, so I know whence you speak! Wanna be SecTrans?

195 DVol  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:23:19pm

re: #194 6pat6

Perfect job for me -- I like afternoon naps.

196 Dublin(CA)Dude  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:23:26pm

#175 Charles

Charles, I realize, and I think most of us realize, how important this is. Like you, I've been a Rudy supporter for a long time and if he backs down on this I can't see myself doing anything but sitting this election out.

I am a volunteer in his campaign, have given money and plan to give more. And I have emailed the campaign on this issue. They are being overwhelmed by emails of support for him against CAIR.

I know you are nervous that Rudy will somehow try to placate them, but that is so out of character that I think you are mistaken. I pray you are mistaken.

Courage! Rudy is the man, and so are you Charles.

197 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:23:53pm

re: #193 tankdemon

tankdenom, wanna be SecNavy? I need that attitude in my Defense Department!

198 DesertSage  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:24:02pm

re: #185 realwest

re: #174 DesertSage Yup, but I'm warning ya, Noam is gonna be upset unless he can be co-campaign manager!

Noam and I will be co-managers, so it shall be!

199 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:24:02pm

Having been drunk in public in both cities, while Houston is humid, New Orleans is the capital city of humidity. Late summer 30 to 32° Gulf to the South, equally warm Pontchartrain to the North, oh yeah, it is humid.

Not sure why Romney never took off, unless people really are that worried about a Mormon, but at this point, especially if Fred is going PC on Islam, despite being probably more liberal than some Dems (well, Lieberman), Rudy is best of the elect ables. Would Duncan Hunter be a far better POTUS? You bet. But the best he can realistically hope for is a VP nod.

200 screaming_eagle  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:24:09pm

re: #186 6pat6

Will I be able to say the words:

"Start Bombing Iran"

If I can- then I accept.

201 Charles  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:24:12pm

re: #177 Canadastani

158 Irene NYC


I try to send people to LGF and a lot of people are just turned off by that sort of stuff.
Not that Irene needs anyone to support her, but I totally agree with her. It is not difficult to make your point clearly. Being vulgar just lets people get away with comparing this to KOS or the HufPo. Kind of like typing in ALL CAPS, being vulgar takes away from whatever point you were trying to make and makes the rest of us look bad.

Exactly right.

202 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:24:24pm

re: #182 6pat6

I fully intend to let the States set the drinking age as they see fit, since that is obviously a state's rights issue. Same with the Transportation Dept and their legal blackmail tactics to withhoild Federal money for a variety of things - this must stop! - in ALL Cabinet-level positions!

You have my vote if you can see your way through the enviro-crap thats prevents CA from having more freeways and WE NEED THAT @%&$##@ CA-241 THROUGH to the I-5 ASAP.

If you can get those items done you're in :)

203 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:24:55pm

This Ain't a Marinara Sauce.
INGREDIENTS for one batch

12 oz. ground beef or pork sausage
1 C. onion, chopped
½ C. bell pepper, chopped
1/4 C. celery, chopped
2 cloves garlic, minced
***
4 C. tomatoes, peeled, chopped (6 large) / two 14.5-oz. cans of tomatoes, cut up–use all juices
1 6-oz. can tomato paste
1/3 C. water
2 Tbs. fresh parsley, snipped
1 Tbs. fresh oregano, snipped / 1 Tsp. dried, crushed
1 Tbs. fresh basil, snipped / 1 Tsp. dried, crushed
2 Tsp. fresh marjoram, snipped / ½ Tsp. dried, crushed
1 Tsp. sugar
½ Tsp. salt
1/4 Tsp. pepper
***
8-10 oz. dried pasta
Parmesan cheese, grated (optional)

DIRECTIONS

1. In a large sauce pan or pot, cook first five ingredients until meat is brown. Drain fat.
2. Stir in the rest of the ingredients. Bring to boil. Reduce heat. Cover and simmer for 30 minutes. Uncover and simmer for 10-15 minutes, stir occasionally.
3. Meanwhile, cook pasta until tender. Drain well. Makes 4-5 main-dish servings.

204 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:25:37pm

I think I've announced MORE of my campaign platform than ANY of the Donks or the Republican candidates! Would this be a true statement?

205 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:25:52pm

Did anyone notice if you go to the CAIR action alert page Charles linked to and try to copy text, their site discourages the function with a pop-up warning that tells you if you copy something onto your clipboard, then this site will have access to any other recent clipboard entries you may have had. (Mozilla here) Thats a new one. Anyone know if thats a generic warning from Mozilla or a CAIRbot diversion tactic?

206 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:26:02pm

re: #193 tankdemon Well MY first act as POTUS would be to send you, as VP, to Outter Mongolia on a three and a half year fact finding mission!
BTW, what have I ever said to you that would make you react that way? Or are you just jealous cause I was Infantry and you were just...armor?

207 tankdemon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:26:03pm

re: #197 6pat6

I'd prefer SecArmy. That would make a few of the officers I currently serve for a bit nervous.
Of course, SecNavy would mean getting to boss around my younger brothers...

208 Northpaw  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:26:40pm

re: #181 francisco d'anconia

re: #172 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

did you happen to see on drudge that the "experts" were downgrading their predictions for for this Hurricane season. funny stuff, you'd think they would have learned after last year.

Scientific American, a magazine that has pretty much devolved into a Global Warming rag (and one I'm this close to cancelling after a 20+ year sub...), in the last couple of issues had a big spread about how anthropogenic GW was a slam dunk (based on the glorious UN IPCC report) and one on how hurricanes are now going to be so totally horrible that we're all going to pretty much die. Or not.

209 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:26:59pm

re: #192 Northpaw

I sent a succinct email...

Re: CAIR:

Please tell them go pound sand. Thank you.

We have a winner!

210 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:27:13pm

I just sent the previous thread link to Drudge and Instapundit.

/let's see what happens

211 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:27:14pm

Hey, realwest supporters, his people have been in contact with my people about the possiblity of a linked campaign

Breaking news! Film at eleven!

212 DesertSage  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:27:20pm

re: #201 Charles

Charles, did you suspend savage? I hope you didn't ban him, he just needed to be slapped upside the head.

213 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:27:40pm

re: #199 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Try Ohio in August when high pressure moves in and the jet stream dip down into Texas and then back up to the Ohio Valley. 92 degrees 95% humidity, until it inevitable rains in the evening.

214 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:28:03pm

re: #207 tankdemon

Your choice, my friend! I am very accomodating!

215 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:28:10pm
216 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:28:25pm

re: #204 6pat6 YES! Have you been doing any polling out here or anything (he says with a cigar in his mouth and a squint in his eye)?

217 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:28:30pm

For what it's worth, I don't think Rudy will cave to these people. It's not his style to back down. He gave that saudi money back. It's my opinion that for Rudy the WoT is personal. They attacked his city. He's not backing down to these people- he just won't.

GO RUDY!

218 DesertSage  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:28:53pm

re: #215 savage_nation

Savage, you're back! I was getting worried.

219 tankdemon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:29:18pm

re: #206 realwest

Nothing personal, realwest, just a total unmitigated lust for power.

Oh, by the way, you do realize that a single tank can do more battlefield damage in 15 minutes than a squad of grunts could do in a week?

220 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:29:40pm
221 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:30:06pm

re: #205 Mich-again

Did anyone notice if you go to the CAIR action alert page Charles linked to and try to copy text, their site discourages the function with a pop-up warning

Just send the page you want as an email.

/you don't even need to send it, just save it to your Drafts folder

222 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:30:39pm
223 DesertSage  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:30:45pm

re: #220 savage_nation

re: #218 DesertSage

re: #215 savage_nation

Savage, you're back! I was getting worried.

Yeah, I'm here

Cool! You be good ok.

224 Canadastani  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:30:46pm

172 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Thanks for clearing that up. I know what you mean - I sometimes find political topics at my favorite football site and the post deletions are one-sided. Without me mentioning anything about LGF, some lib busts in with his notions on what kind of people post on here. I correct every lie and the thread goes away.
Oh well, glad you took it as light ribbing on the Weather world.

And on topic, I was at the event (repeating my self) and also just sent a little note of support for Rudy. I found it surprising that Michelle Malkin (or Allahpundit) went after Rudy on HotAir for fair statements. http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/25/rudy-demagog ues-the-democrats/
Odd. Needless to say I am a Rudy fan.

225 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:30:50pm

re: #216 realwest

Latest polling data shows a 100% vote FOR a joint ticket with you and I on the ballot, forming the Continuous/Lizardian Party. Have my Cabinet appointments matched yours?

226 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:30:54pm

I'd keep the 21 drinking age, but pass a law allowing states to permit alcohol sales by anyone with valid military ID.


That being said, withholding Federal highway dollars from states that didn't raise the drinking age seems like a 9th Amendment issue to me. That was how the nationwide 21 law came into effect.


Louisiana, always different from the US, made it illegal to purchase alcohol for people under 21, but kept the old law criminalizing the selling of alcohol to people under 18. So college kids and the such, while technically breaking the law, could still buy alcohol. The Feds finally wised up to that one.

227 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:31:03pm

re: #158 Irene NYC

re: #130 savage_nation


Well, I'm sorry to piss you off, but you will always know where I stand.


You're not. Comments like that just make me cringe. I try to send people to LGF and a lot of people are just turned off by that sort of stuff. Only an immature jerk needs to resort to such language to try to "communicate" where they stand.

Oh, and there was nothing wrong with someone proposing people send contributions to Rudy's campaign. Your response was way out of line.

I'm with Irene NYC on this one. I say savage_nation needs to apologize.

228 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:31:29pm

re: #210 Killian Bundy Hey Killian - way to go! Um, you oughta send one to O'Reilly, too - ya know, just to cover all the bases (and besides, maybe he'd have Charles sit in for him instead of Michelle once in a while - I hear the pay is really good! And at least we'd finally get some reseached and fact based reality on O'Reilly more often!

229 screaming_eagle  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:31:59pm

re: #219 tankdemon

You do realize a single grunt can take that tank out.

230 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:32:46pm
231 tankdemon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:32:46pm

re: #225 6pat6

re: #216 realwest

Latest polling data shows a 100% vote FOR a joint ticket with you and I on the ballot, forming the Continuous/Lizardian Party. Have my Cabinet appointments matched yours?

I guess I wasn't really in the running to be realwest's veep anyway. But the important question- who was going to DJ this Continuous Lizard Party? Will it be catered?

232 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:33:11pm

re: #217 Sharmuta

Rudy can't back down. He knows where his bread and butter is, Liberal enough for Moderates and Undecideds to vote for, Anti-islamic enough for the people like us to forgive his stances on other issues. This is his wheel house, he wont back down, if anything it would be politically expedient for him to play this up.

233 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:33:39pm

re: #213 francisco d'anconia

re: #199 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Try Ohio in August when high pressure moves in and the jet stream dip down into Texas and then back up to the Ohio Valley. 92 degrees 95% humidity, until it inevitable rains in the evening.


You're just trying to be annoying, aren't you. If you're not, you're an idiot. Flat out. Dick, or idiot. Or maybe both.


I'll be your virtual internet slave if you can link to any weather station that shows humidity over 90% with a temp over 90F.

234 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:33:43pm
235 Catttt  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:34:01pm

re: #137 Charles

re: #131 francisco d'anconia


re: #124 Charles

how do we know the phones arent being inundated with people telling him to stick to his guns? i really dont think too many people that support Cair (democrats) would call Rudi. They would just call their people and make donations.


Because the lines were shut down before I posted about this.

Yeah, I tried to call, and the phones were off. It didn't occur to me that it would be due to CAIR calls, but I'm sure that's why.

Anyways, thanks for the heads up. I signed up on Mayor Guiliani's site and made a donation. Nothing says "I'm in your corner" like a donation, yes?

236 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:34:10pm

re: #219 tankdemon

re: #206 realwest

Nothing personal, realwest, just a total unmitigated lust for power.

Oh, by the way, you do realize that a single tank can do more battlefield damage in 15 minutes than a squad of grunts could do in a week?

I prefer this damage

237 pat  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:34:42pm

Bloomeberg is a creep. A control freak that never knows when to stop. He thinks his burps are important...Yet when confronted with true evil, he is the type that will shout at his subordinates. First to the exit. Giuliani is the different. Bored with the norm, he hits home runs when the team needs him. Weak on guns and the State's rights tho. But not a bad person.

238 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:34:45pm

re: #203 MandyManners

So, if it's not marinara, Mandy, what is it?

If you stick with hamburger instead of sausage, swap a can of tomato sauce for the water, swap black pepper for red, and use minute rice instead of pasta, you have exactly my own version of "Spanish Rice" that makes an incredible meal of the kind you can put in tuppers and eat for lunch at work for a week.

239 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:35:22pm

re: #219 tankdemon

Now thats just stupid, properly equipped grunts can do a hell of a lot of damage in a week. Hell one grunt can take out a take, if he can get close enough to throw a grenade at the tracks.

240 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:35:59pm

IIRC, in traditional usage, a marinara is meatless.

241 tankdemon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:36:37pm

re: #229 screaming_eagle

re: #219 tankdemon

You do realize a single grunt can take that tank out.

You know, I've heard that rumor, but I've never seen it happen...

Of course, we don't generally fight against U. S. infantry, so I guess there is a slight possibility that it is possible. Then again, I think the existance of Sasquatch is possible.

242 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:37:04pm

re: #231 tankdemon

Know a caterer? Good ones are a bee-atch to find!

243 Northpaw  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:37:42pm

re: #238 Malatrope

re: #203 MandyManners

So, if it's not marinara, Mandy, what is it?

If you stick with hamburger instead of sausage, swap a can of tomato sauce for the water, swap black pepper for red, and use minute rice instead of pasta, you have exactly my own version of "Spanish Rice" that makes an incredible meal of the kind you can put in tuppers and eat for lunch at work for a week.

Minute Rice...

*shudders*

244 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:37:53pm

If I can get close enough to an F-16 fighter, I can take it out by hurling a big piece of FOD towards the intake.


I still wouldn't want to go up against one.

245 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:37:56pm

re: #241 tankdemon

AIR power, baby! If an A-10 is overhead, watch the fun begin!

246 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:38:27pm

re: #243 Northpaw

Well, it's better with real rice, but minute rice is, well, quicker.

247 DVol  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:38:30pm

re: #237 pat

That's an amazingly accurate characterization, I think. Also, despite possible appearances to the contrary, I actually think Rudy has mellowed a bit over the years -- some of his more confrontational edges have been smoothed out (without compromising his principles).

248 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:38:44pm

re: #244 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

That's the weak spot on an air-to-mud Falcon, to be sure!

249 Irene NYC  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:39:04pm

re: #184 SeafoodGumbo

If Rudy was right on illegals and guns, I'd be enthused about his candidacy, but he's been on the wrong side of both of those issues.

Rudy became mayor when NYC was going down the tubes. Literally.

When Giuliani took office in 1992 the yearly homicide rate was almost 2,000. When he left office in 2000 it was 673. So he cut it about 70%. Burglary went from 119,000 to 37,000. Larceny 236,000 to 139,000. Auto theft from 137,000 to 36,000.


Here's the original quote and link.

I remember coming out of a club one night before Giuliani was elected and watching a truckload of gang members brandishing uzis drive by. It was pretty scary. And somehow I don't think that's what our Founding Father's had in mind when they granted us the right to bear arms.

So, was Rudy wrong on the gun issue? I don't think so. Unregistered guns in urban environments cause a lot of pain and death and suffering. There's has to be some sort of regulation. I think the statistics speak for themselves.

250 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:39:12pm

Dipping the tomatoes into boiling water for a time, and then plunging them into iced water is the way to peel tomatoes.

251 screaming_eagle  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:39:24pm

re: #241 tankdemon

Better not tell you our mission during Desert Storm then. Wouldn't want reality to hit you to hard.

252 mythicknight  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:39:37pm

I have opened Pandora's Box, and it is delicious.

253 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:39:39pm

re: #225 6pat6 Well, it's late here and I'll have to sleep on that (and wait to see what campagin contributions come from whom) but I'd be willing to have you as my running-mate! LOL!
And seriously, I gotta go to sleep now, as I anticipate having to spend LOTS of time counting the money pledged by folks who want certain spots in my our government!
Have a great night folks and I'll see y'all tomorrow!

254 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:39:42pm

re: #244 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ed, if you're that close, that piece of FOD will be you. Hate to lose our favorite meteorologist, here.

255 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:39:53pm

re: #232 francisco d'anconia

re: #217 Sharmuta

Rudy can't back down. He knows where his bread and butter is, Liberal enough for Moderates and Undecideds to vote for, Anti-islamic enough for the people like us to forgive his stances on other issues. This is his wheel house, he wont back down, if anything it would be politically expedient for him to play this up.

I don't think political expediency has anything to do with this (although I agree) . cair is trying to bully him, and Rudy is not a man to be bullied. They are obviously targeting him, and I think they picked a fight with the wrong guy.

256 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:40:00pm

Boots on the ground win wars in the final analysis.

257 pat  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:40:23pm

Mandy, cool (a little pun there. lol)

258 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:40:43pm

Ed, would you be interested in heading up NOAA in my Administration?

259 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:41:25pm

Still looking for the ideal place in my Administration for Sharmuta and Mandy!

260 Meremortal  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:41:27pm

re: #107 6pat6

Screw the two-party system! Tonight, I announce my candidacy for the President of the United States! I am running on the Continuous Party ticket, and am beholden to no special interest, since I am the only member of my party! I had my convention a few minutes ago, and by unanimous consent of the member present, I won the nomination! So, those of you in write-in states, I'd sincerely appreciate your vote.

My platform - Take the best what Tancredo and Giuliani stand for, and you have me.

Vote ME in '08!

(mad applause ensues!) Thank you, thank you all very much!

("Hail to the Chief" plays...!)

I've got your campaign slogan 6pat6!

"We can't stand pat!"

261 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:41:36pm

re: #234 savage_nation

But you didn't say you were sorry for what you said, just that you were sorry that what you said angered someone. That is not the same thing.

262 Northpaw  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:41:41pm

re: #250 MandyManners

Dipping the tomatoes into boiling water for a time, and then plunging them into iced water is the way to peel tomatoes.

Mandy, are you sure your name isn't Blanch?

263 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:42:08pm
264 pat  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:42:23pm

#247 DVol
Why, thankyou!

Sharmuta
I agree.

265 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:42:54pm

re: #260 Meremortal

er, maybe!

266 MikeySDCA  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:43:04pm

As a classical conservative of the school of Edmund Burke, I find nothing in Giuliani's views objectionable, quite the contrary.

I admired his work as US Attorney, and as Mayor in cleaning up the city. I must confess, though, that I have been allergic to him since 9-11.

His prancing about, especially with Shrub, was vomit-producing. The nonsense about him as "America's Mayor", in which he doubtless had a large hand, was even worse.

Maybe it's just that he's New York and I'm San Diego (though I went to Yale and am not exactly a peasant), but I find him obnoxious.

267 realwest  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:43:05pm

re: #229 screaming_eagle Thank You!
Now I really gotta go to bed!

268 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:43:24pm

re: #258 6pat6

Ed, would you be interested in heading up NOAA in my Administration?


I wanna be either SPC or TPC director. I think my lack of formal training could be my greatest strength!

269 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:43:55pm

re: #247 DVol

re: #237 pat

That's an amazingly accurate characterization, I think. Also, despite possible appearances to the contrary, I actually think Rudy has mellowed a bit over the years -- some of his more confrontational edges have been smoothed out (without compromising his principles).

Cancer survivors are often wisened, more mellow, don't sweat the small stuff as much...

270 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:44:00pm
271 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:44:14pm

re: #249 Irene NYC

My feelings exactly.

272 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:44:19pm

Ed, you're hired!

273 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:44:40pm

Getting almost 90 minutes past my normal work night bed time.

274 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:45:01pm

re: #263 kreigwagon

I would love seeing him as Sec. of State.

275 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:45:28pm

John Bolton is going to be my SecState! He is my first and only choice for that slot!

276 ratherdashing  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:45:57pm

and another plea

quick email was sent
influencing the next prez
bedtime calls my name

277 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:46:07pm

re: #259 6pat6

Still looking for the ideal place in my Administration for Sharmuta and Mandy!

Saudi Ambassador and UN Ambassador, resp.

278 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:46:20pm

re: #259 6pat6

Still looking for the ideal place in my Administration for Sharmuta and Mandy!

Choose wisely. ;)

279 Milk Toast Intolerant  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:46:26pm

re: #76 WrathofG-d

Did anyone notice if you go to the CAIR action alert page Charles linked to and try to copy text, their site discourages the function with a pop-up warning that tells you if you copy something onto your clipboard, then this site will have access to any other recent clipboard entries you may have had. (Mozilla here) Thats a new one. Anyone know if thats a generic warning from Mozilla or a CAIRbot diversion tactic?

What what I understand, Windows clipboard can only hold one set of information at a time, which means if CAIR's claim is true, they will only see the last thing you pasted, which could be *ahem* "CAIR GO POUND SAND." :D

280 bosforus  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:46:46pm

re: #270 song_and_dance_man

re: #230 savage_nation

RICO act

Really Irritating and Conniving Organizations?

281 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:46:56pm

re: #274 NY Nana

re: #263 kreigwagon

I would love seeing him as Sec. of State POTUS.

There, now that's better...

282 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:47:07pm

re: #273 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Getting almost 90 minutes past my normal work night bed time.

And only two hours before you stop drinking.

283 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:47:25pm

Keep those campaign contributions coming to my Web page - w w w. w w w. w w w. w w.w.heyheisrunningsendmemoneyrightnow.com.us.org.g uv.

284 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:47:52pm

I have also sent an encouraging email to Rudy, just before I came wading into this thread.

285 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:48:03pm

re: #278 Sharmuta

Where would you like to be?

286 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:48:56pm

Before I go to bed- Rudy's views on guns and abortion are flat out bad.


But if he is the nominee, his guns/life positions will make him look like Mother Teresa compared to Obama or Stalin in a Pantsuit.

I've donated to Duncan Hunter, and won't donate to Giuliani during primary season. But if he is the GOP candidate, I'll find $50 to send him, double that if Hunter is his VP nominee.

287 Catttt  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:49:00pm

re: #246 Malatrope

re: #243 Northpaw

Well, it's better with real rice, but minute rice is, well, quicker.

But it tastes crappy. What's the hurry, anyway? Put on your rice, then do the other stuff, then your rice is done. Voila. :)

288 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:49:16pm

re: #285 6pat6

That's a loaded question.

289 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:49:42pm

re: #249 Irene NYC

So, was Rudy wrong on the gun issue? I don't think so.

I do, and won't vote for him because of it.

Unregistered guns in urban environments cause a lot of pain and death and suffering.

No, they really don't. Guns are inanimate objects.

What causes "a lot of pain and death and suffering" is criminals who are allowed to roam free.

There's has to be some sort of regulation.

There are already plenty of gun laws and regulations on the books. Here's a newsflash for you: Criminals don't obey them. Only law-abiding citizens do.

I think the statistics speak for themselves.

So do I, and they don't support your argument.

290 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:49:45pm

Answer carefully!

291 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:49:56pm
292 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:50:39pm

re: #286 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Before I go to bed- Rudy's views on guns and abortion are flat out bad.


Exactly.

293 tankdemon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:50:45pm

re: #251 screaming_eagle

Please, I've been in the army long enough to know that infantry can be very effective. Just letting a little branch pride vent. I hope you aren't overly offended. (I slight touch offended might be okay, but not overly offended.)

For any other lizards who witnessed this spectacle, please don't interpret it to mean that different specialties in the armed forces really dislike each other, we just enjoy poking fun...

Of course, any complaints about the pogues working in finance are real and genuine.

294 Ledger1  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:50:47pm

I have sent my supportive email to Rudy.

It said to stand pat and don’t take any crap from CAIR. Rudy is a good man and I think he will hold his ground.

What aggravates the h*ll out of me is knowing a front group for Hamas, supported and funded by a handful of oil parasites, is targeting a relatively under-fund candidate for the US Presidency.

For too long CAIR and been the big bully on the block. I would support a non-profit organization to counter CAIR with educational material and political activism. I don’t know if there is such an organization out there but if so I would support it.

This is gross intimidation by supporters of Hamas of a US citizen and a Presidential Candidate. We must not let this form of thuggish intimidation continue.

295 pat  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:50:56pm

Sharmuta, there is always Hawaii. LOL

296 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:51:35pm
297 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:51:39pm

Sharmuta, would you like an ambassadorship? Pick your country!

298 Meremortal  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:51:50pm

re: #265 6pat6

And you will have a War Dept, right?

299 Irene NYC  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:52:39pm

re: #289 lobo91

Where do you live?

300 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:52:42pm

re: #282 cbinflux

re: #273 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


Getting almost 90 minutes past my normal work night bed time.

And only two hours before you stop drinking.

2 glasses of white infidel after dinner.


Just can't drink the way I did 20 years ago and still function effectively at the office. Already going gray. Next stop on the road to the grave, enlarged prostate and erectile dysfunction. I just hope I don't get to those stations anytime soon. Wait, I'm not wearing bifocals yet, so maybe Señor Feliz won't need the Viagra assist for a few more years.


Now, bed time...

301 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:53:27pm

re: #298 Meremortal

Absolutely! The Department of Defense will be renamed and reorganized, into the War Department and the Navy Department, just like it was up to 1946.

302 ChenZhen  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:53:48pm
Here’s another Wednesday evening open thread, and another plea to LGF readers to contact the Giuliani campaign and tell them you don’t want Rudy to cave in to CAIR’s demands:

What demands?

CONTACT the Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee to express your concerns about his promotion of linking the faith of Islam to terrorism.

303 Meremortal  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:54:39pm

re: #301 6pat6

re: #298 Meremortal

Absolutely! The Department of Defense will be renamed and reorganized, into the War Department and the Navy Department, just like it was up to 1946.

Fabulous, Your Excellency!

304 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:54:51pm
305 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:55:29pm

re: #299 Irene NYC

I live in Colorado Springs and work in Denver.

Why?

306 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:56:04pm

re: #297 6pat6

I love America too much to leave Her, but thank you.

307 screaming_eagle  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:56:14pm

re: #293 tankdemon

Only offense taken was that your branch pride was in the wrong MOS.

And there are worse things than being Armour. Like the 82nd.

Of course, any complaints about the pogues working in finance are real and genuine.
Add supply.

308 Meremortal  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:56:51pm

re: #305 lobo91

re: #299 Irene NYC

I live in Colorado Springs and work in Denver.

Why?


Whoa, tough commute. (I'm in Littleton, office in Lakewood, 18 minutes.)

309 John Schneider  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:56:53pm

OT (sorry)

Boy,if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black.

Washington Post

Senator Patrick "Leaky" Leahy, who disclosed information that lead to the death of an Egyptian operative when we were in the midst of trying to capture the hijackers of the Achille Lauro, and who leaked information about President Reagan trying to go after Moammar Gadhafi, doesn't trust the Attorney General of the United States?

Damn. You just can't write comedy this good.

310 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:57:06pm

Good evening, Chenzhen. Even you can have a position in my new Administration. To remind folks what the L3 is about and to remind them we don't want to go back to the bad 'ol days, you can head my new Cabinet-level department...yes, I'm creating a new position! The Secretary of the Department of Redundacy Department. You can have one personal secretary, and you will be chartered with eliminating redundacy in government. Start small, work up!

311 cbinflux  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:57:18pm

Hollywood Quickly Bringing the Iraq War Home (in numerous movies)

On a night four years ago, five soldiers back from three months in Iraq went drinking at a Hooters restaurant and a topless bar near Fort Benning, Ga.

Before the night was over, one of them, Specialist Richard R. Davis, was dead of at least 33 stab wounds, his body doused with lighter fluid and burned. Two of the group would eventually be convicted of the murder, another pleaded guilty to manslaughter, and the last confessed to concealing the crime...

“My son saw some war atrocities over in Iraq, and they had to murder him in order to keep it quiet,” said Lanny Davis, a retired Army staff sergeant whose efforts sparked the investigation at a time when his son was assumed to be absent without leave. The atrocity question did not figure significantly in the real-life trial, but the movie puts a twist of its own on the issue.

On another point, however, Mr. Davis had no quarrel with Mr. Haggis. “I’ve been thinking about flying my own flag upside down,” Mr. Davis said. “This isn’t my America, the one I stood up for.”

312 pat  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:57:26pm

CZ
"Dear Mr. Giuliani, I am very concerned that most Muslims seem to be either terrorists or people who seem to take joy in the death of others.
Thankyou very much, pat.

313 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:57:29pm

re: #287 Cattt

When I make it, it's usually on the run Sunday evening, for lunches during the next week. I never seem to be intelligent enough to plan ahead!

For planned meals like holidays, though, I do it up right. It's actually best if refrigerated and warmed up the next day.

(Oh, and like somebody else said upstream, I think a Rudy/Hunter ticket would be just dandy.)

314 screaming_eagle  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:57:48pm

re: #301 6pat6

What? Your cutting me out of Sec of Defense?

315 bikermailman  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:58:05pm

re: #252 mythicknight

I have opened Pandora's Box, and it is delicious.

Did someone say Box?

316 Da_Beerfreak  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:58:44pm

re: #287 Cattt

re: #246 Malatrope

re: #243 Northpaw

Well, it's better with real rice, but minute rice is, well, quicker.

But it tastes crappy. What's the hurry, anyway? Put on your rice, then do the other stuff, then your rice is done. Voila. :)

Just about the best small kitchen appliance I have is a Panasonic 3-cup rice cooker a friend gave me a couple of years back. Sure it takes more then 5 minutes to make a batch of rice, but it comes out perfect every time.
// Just my 2 cents worth.

317 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:58:48pm

re: #306 Sharmuta

Cool! Maybe Assistant Sec'y to John Bolton? You can do that!

318 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:58:53pm

I emailed Rudy!

319 NavyBrat  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:59:25pm

E-Mail sent.

320 Meremortal  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:59:25pm

re: #310 6pat6


I'll take Minister of Silly Walks, if I can wear a 45 cal sidearm at all times.

321 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:59:27pm

re: #314 screaming_eagle

Nope. You'd now be the head of the War Department.

322 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:59:45pm

re: #320 Meremortal

You're Hired!

323 Yankee Division Son  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:59:50pm

re: #1 song_and_dance_man

[deleted]

The first comment got deleted? I think that's a first :)

324 Catttt  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:59:50pm

re: #289 lobo91

re: #249 Irene NYC


So, was Rudy wrong on the gun issue? I don't think so.

I do, and won't vote for him because of it.

Unregistered guns in urban environments cause a lot of pain and death and suffering.

No, they really don't. Guns are inanimate objects.

What causes "a lot of pain and death and suffering" is criminals who are allowed to roam free.


There's has to be some sort of regulation.

There are already plenty of gun laws and regulations on the books. Here's a newsflash for you: Criminals don't obey them. Only law-abiding citizens do.

I think the statistics speak for themselves.

So do I, and they don't support your argument.

It's very short-sighted of you to be a one-issue voter. I think it is very ignorant to focus that way, when our entire way of life - and that of future generations - is at stake here.

And you are wrong about the statistics - I think you are lying to yourself or displaying bravado because you are emotional about the guns issue, at the expense of reason. No offense, but that's not a good way to pick a man/woman who can do a really hard job. Rather than focusing that way, vote for a problem solver.

I know from personal experience the HUGE difference that took place during Mayor Giuliani's tenure - he turned NYC around, and I for one am quite happy about it. I love NY, and I love it safer.

Finally, not everyone is either a criminal or a law-abiding citizen. Some people are in-between - especially people in big cities. It's not all black and white in the big city, pardner.

325 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 9:59:59pm

re: #308 Meremortal

I only make the drive once a week, usually. I stay up there during the week and go home on Fridays.

I actually work at the DFC, which the USPS pretends isn't in Lakewood.

326 bikermailman  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:00:24pm

re: #263 kreigwagon

Rudy's good but John is better

Nah...combine SecDef and State, put him in charge there. He can do all the hard hitting, and not suffer the political consequences. The man is awesome.

327 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:01:02pm

Mandy, if you're still awake, would you be interested in a White House Chief of Staff position?

328 screaming_eagle  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:01:26pm

re: #321 6pat6

Okay , had me worried.


The new ROE.
1) Kill the enemy.
2) Bring your ass back alive.

329 Irene NYC  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:01:26pm

re: #289 lobo91

re: #249 Irene NYC

So, was Rudy wrong on the gun issue? I don't think so.

I do, and won't vote for him because of it.

Unregistered guns in urban environments cause a lot of pain and death and suffering.

No, they really don't. Guns are inanimate objects.

What causes "a lot of pain and death and suffering" is criminals who are allowed to roam free.

There's has to be some sort of regulation.

There are already plenty of gun laws and regulations on the books. Here's a newsflash for you: Criminals don't obey them. Only law-abiding citizens do.

I think the statistics speak for themselves.

So do I, and they don't support your argument.

I don't think you've experienced picking up the newspaper every single day, day in and day out, year after year, and reading about 6 little children shot dead in a drive by, or some other equally gross story. It really gets to you and you begin to wonder whether or not our government - which is supposed to have a monopoly on power - is up to the job of protecting us.

If you went back to my original link, I also mentioned Rudy instituting Compstat. Taking his record all together, it's hard to see how you conclude that the statistics don't support my argument. And I think we're way beyond the point of "guns don't kill people, people kill people."

Feel free not to vote for Rudy if he is the GOP candidate. But then don't complain when the democrats control the house, the senate and the presidency.

330 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:01:56pm

re: #316 Da_Beerfreak

I may try one of those. I tend to screw up cooking rice, somehow. And, there's the other problem, that I actually like how Minute Rice tastes...

*hangs head in shame*

331 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:02:18pm

re: #328 screaming_eagle

I like simple!

332 Catttt  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:02:58pm

re: #311 cbinflux

Hollywood Quickly Bringing the Iraq War Home (in numerous movies)


On a night four years ago, five soldiers back from three months in Iraq went drinking at a Hooters restaurant and a topless bar near Fort Benning, Ga.

Before the night was over, one of them, Specialist Richard R. Davis, was dead of at least 33 stab wounds, his body doused with lighter fluid and burned. Two of the group would eventually be convicted of the murder, another pleaded guilty to manslaughter, and the last confessed to concealing the crime...

“My son saw some war atrocities over in Iraq, and they had to murder him in order to keep it quiet,” said Lanny Davis, a retired Army staff sergeant whose efforts sparked the investigation at a time when his son was assumed to be absent without leave. The atrocity question did not figure significantly in the real-life trial, but the movie puts a twist of its own on the issue.

On another point, however, Mr. Davis had no quarrel with Mr. Haggis. “I’ve been thinking about flying my own flag upside down,” Mr. Davis said. “This isn’t my America, the one I stood up for.”

Yeah, I read that. I noticed that the ones of that ilk that have come out so far have done very poor box office. I hope that trend continues.

333 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:03:04pm

re: #281 kreigwagon

I also thought of that, but because of States' hatred of Israel and the Jews, Bolton could revolutionize State, and clean it out, have air freshener do the rest, after opening the windows, and in addition, counsel President Giuliani..unlike the horrific Condi, and Powell, et al, before her.

Both Bolton and Rudy do not suffer fools lightly, and given Rudy's prosecutorial experience, experience with Job One, terrorism..he had, tragically, on the job training unlike any other in the USA. I back Rudy for President. he is not perfect, nor is any candidate, but we cannot afford to nitpick, as the upcoming election is, IMHO, the most critical in our history, and some things we hold to be critical in a candidate will have to be a trade off to secure a future for our kids and grandkids.

334 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:03:32pm

And I sit here, planning my Cabinet! Haven't had this much fun in a while! Dreams are nice!

335 Meremortal  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:03:46pm

re: #325 lobo91

Bwahaha! Lakewood's Area 51. Funny, my cell phone always dumps when I drive up Kipling from Alameda. I've got a couple of buddies there, one in Minerals and Minings, and one in Cartography.

336 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:04:01pm

re: #317 6pat6

Thanks- all the Lizard Ladies will be jealous!

337 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:06:30pm

re: #333 NY Nana

re: #281 kreigwagon

I also thought of that, but because of States' hatred of Israel and the Jews, Bolton could revolutionize State, and clean it out, have air freshener do the rest, after opening the windows, and in addition, counsel President Giuliani..unlike the horrific Condi, and Powell, et al, before her.

Both Bolton and Rudy do not suffer fools lightly, and given Rudy's prosecutorial experience, experience with Job One, terrorism..he had, tragically, on the job training unlike any other in the USA. I back Rudy for President. he is not perfect, nor is any candidate, but we cannot afford to nitpick, as the upcoming election is, IMHO, the most critical in our history, and some things we hold to be critical in a candidate will have to be a trade off to secure a future for our kids and grandkids.


Well said Ny Nana. Rudy is good, not perfect maybe if he wins and with our input/feedback as voters/supporters he'll be up there with Ronald Reagan.

338 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:06:31pm

re: #333 NY Nana

re: #281 kreigwagon

we cannot afford to nitpick, as the upcoming election is, IMHO, the most critical in our history

All of my fun aside, you are 100% correct in your statement. This election is so incredibly important to the future of our Republic, and so many people are utterly clueless, either by intent or by a horrible education.

339 Canadastani  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:06:38pm

263 kreigwagen

John Bolton may be better than Rudy, but Rudy is running. Plus, Rudy has run a large organization (with entrenched interests) competently. We could use that. President is not about which candidate matches your checklist most closely. I have a few issues with Rudy, but big picture he gets it, he can communicate it clearly and forcefully, and he can execute when in office.

As for the larger theme of Rudy backing down in the face of threats. If he can put the mob in jail and shove a check in the face of a Saudi Prince, I happen to believe he will respond well to typical CAIR grievance theater. They are not exactly the swing voters he hopes to woo.

340 pat  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:06:56pm

#332 Cattt
DOA in America. This movie is being made for EU and Muslim America haters. This is where Hollywood is now.

341 Irene NYC  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:07:04pm

re: #311 cbinflux

I noticed tonight while watching So You Think You Can Dance that the dance that all ten contestants had to dance tonight was about "Peace." Can anything be more of a cliche? And the choreographer was just so smug and proud. It's everywhere you turn in Hollywood.

342 Fearless Fred  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:07:14pm

re: #289 lobo91

You're right!

343 BenZacharia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:07:16pm

Rudy's views on fashion are dead wrong.

344 DVol  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:07:43pm

re: #329 Irene NYC

If a man gets up in a public place and says, "Kill all the Slobovians NOW!", that's not free speech, it's incitement, and is not protected.

If a man practices a religion which allows him to eat his children, the practice of that religion is not protected.

If a man publishes a newspaper which contains lies and slanders, that is not protected.

And so on...

Each and every one of our fundamental freedoms has a boundary drawn around it. Why should second amendment be any different?

As I understand Rudy's position, the states have the ultimate say in these restrictions with regard to guns, not the federal government. This is, I think, a very reasonable position.

345 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:08:01pm

re: #275 6pat6

Great choice!

346 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:08:36pm
347 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:09:08pm

Cattt, Irene, it's more than the gun control that stopped that crap in NYC. Don't be a "one-issue" analyst, either. As far as Rudy's 2nd amendment stand, I can live with it, knowing that any of the dems would strive to completely overturn the 2nd amendment and being actual confiscation if they were elected. Don't vote against Rudy on this issue! The other side is infinitely worse!

All you people living in the west, remember your history. The wearing of guns was limited in some towns to slow down the drunks and so forth. Local regulations, like NYC, are perfectly acceptable within limits. But I do note that those towns didn't actually confiscate them...you got them back when you left.

348 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:10:31pm

re: #343 BenZacharia

Rudy's views on fashion are dead wrong.

Then who do you offer up for the JOB?

349 Da_Beerfreak  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:10:37pm

re: #330 Malatrope

re: #316 Da_Beerfreak

I may try one of those. I tend to screw up cooking rice, somehow. And, there's the other problem, that I actually like how Minute Rice tastes...

*hangs head in shame*

To tell the truth, I use both. I have a 25 pound bag of white long grain rice and a really big ass box of Minute Rice; what I use depends on what I'm making and how much time I have.
// {;-)™

350 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:10:54pm

re: #333 NY Nana

Very good post, Nana. But I take a bit of issue with the idea that John Bolton could clean out State. We'all thought Condi was going to do that, too. Them bastids is intractable, they is.

351 DVol  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:11:15pm

re: #347 Malatrope

Totally Awesome Idea! Check your guns at the Lincoln Tunnel, and pick them up when you leave!

352 6pat6  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:11:28pm

I'm plum tuckered out from all this high-falutin' campaignin', so I'm high-tailin' it off to bed! Night, ya'll, and keep them contribution$ rollin' in!

353 Fearless Fred  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:11:55pm

re: #329 Irene NYC

Rudy took criminals off the streets. Guns weren't committing the crimes.

354 BenZacharia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:12:02pm

re: #347 Malatrope

'Cuz total confiscation occurs in 2020 instead of 2010? Much better.

/Support Stalin, he kills the Jews a t a slower rate.

355 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:13:08pm

re: #351 DVol

Why not? Is it any slower than paying a toll? Of course, they'd probably grow legs and walk off, mysteriously.

356 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:14:05pm

re: #324 Cattt

It's very short-sighted of you to be a one-issue voter. I think it is very ignorant to focus that way, when our entire way of life - and that of future generations - is at stake here.

I'm not a one-issue voter. There are actually several reasons I won't vote for him or any other RINO.

And you are wrong about the statistics - I think you are lying to yourself or displaying bravado because you are emotional about the guns issue, at the expense of reason.

No, I'm really not. Sorry, but you shouldn't get your information from Sarah Brady or Rosie O'Donnell. There is definitely a correllation between legal gun ownership and crime, but it's a negative one.

I know from personal experience the HUGE difference that took place during Mayor Giuliani's tenure - he turned NYC around, and I for one am quite happy about it.

I never said he didn't, but he didn't do it through restricting gun ownership. I don't recall any new gun laws in NYC while he was mayor. Those laws have been in place for decades.

357 DVol  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:14:17pm

re: #355 Malatrope

And it would give Mayor Bloomberg an additional tax opportunity ("storage fees?")

358 BenZacharia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:15:02pm

re: #348 kreigwagon

Myself, I don't have an Islameist as a campaign manager, I'm still on my first marriage, 29 yrs, I haven't ground any children up and there is not a single dress in my wardrobe.

359 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:16:18pm

re: #347 Malatrope

re: #354 BenZacharia

All I know is "An armed society is a Polite society."

Didn't Australia ban all firearms a while ago?
I believe their crime-rate is way up.

360 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:17:10pm

re: #337 kreigwagon

Thank you...closing in on 70? I just cannot remember any election that I voted in, since I was 21, that centers on a single issue as critical as terrorism.

Too many are in denial. It is far easier to sing a chorus of Kumbaya, than to even consider another attack like 9/11, even as terrorist enter the US with impunity as I type. Why isn't there one politician in office who will stand up and state that the Emperor has no clothes? Look at what Olmerde is doing to Israel..and sadly, President Bush has seemed to have given in to Condi..and make nice with our enemies, rather than speaking out to the world of our common danger. My 71st birthday will be Inauguration Day, 2009, and I want to see President Giuliani take the oath of office with Sec. of State Bolton looking on, smiling.

361 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:17:54pm

re: #354 BenZacharia

If Fred is truly wobbly on Islam, this gives Hillary a strong opportunity to whack him upside the head with it and make herself look better. Elect Hillary, and we'll be burying our guns in the back yard because her minions will be at the door within a month (well, not that fast, but you get the idea).

We can't be one-issue voters on this one. If Hillary gets elected, this country really will go straight to Hell. Or into an honest-to-gosh for-real shootin' civil war. The Republican candidate could be a flaming homosexual athiest abortionist doctor and I'd still vote for him/her/it over Hillary.

362 Salem  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:17:59pm

I think the left is getting ready to focus some of that Bush hate on Rudy. Can you imagine the political atmosphere when this man is head-to-head (I'll assume he gets the nomination) with Hillary? The press hysteria? When he's president, how he's going to deal with the likes of Pillosi and Old Harry? CAIR, the EU and everyone Internationally who is counting on dealing with Big Swillie again?

And that's just a small glance of the freakiness that will reign. People are gonna forget all about 2000.

363 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:18:53pm

re: #357 DVol

Oh, criminy, you're right. Forget that idea.

364 Irene NYC  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:19:47pm

re: #347 Malatrope

Agreed. Rudy did lots of things as mayor which I discussed in my earlier links (implementing the broken windows policy, compstat, etc.). I was just trying to get across the reality of living in Dinkins' NYC and all the death that was going on while Mr. Tennis-Is-My-Middle-Name Dinkins was off watching one tennis tourney or another.

365 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:20:15pm

re: #359 kreigwagon

In case I haven't said it lately, I'm extremely pro-gun, and if things were different I would hold Rudy's position against him. But they aren't.

366 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:20:55pm

re: #358 BenZacharia

re: #348 kreigwagon

Myself, I don't have an Islameist as a campaign manager, I'm still on my first marriage, 29 yrs, I haven't ground any children up and there is not a single dress in my wardrobe.


As I mentioned in a previous thread, if you open up anyones closet or dig in their past you'll find enough on anyone to string them up by the balls.

The POTUS does not have to walk on water, he/she just needs to have leadership qualities and lead this nation. Following the Constitution as intended would also be a great asset as well for that leader.

367 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:21:32pm

re: #364 Irene NYC

Yeah, NYC was really teetering on the brink there for awhile. Much like L.A. is today.

368 DVol  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:21:38pm

re: #366 kreigwagon

Amen. And Goodnight.

369 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:21:59pm

re: #344 DVol

Each and every one of our fundamental freedoms has a boundary drawn around it. Why should second amendment be any different?

I don't think any reasonable person has suggested that it should be. Notice that I haven't argued for the repeal of any current federal gun laws, for example.

As I understand Rudy's position, the states have the ultimate say in these restrictions with regard to guns, not the federal government. This is, I think, a very reasonable position.

That's not the case in New York, though. The Second Amendment still applies in the rest of the state. It's only NYC that decided to limit gun ownership to criminals and those with the right political connections.

370 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:24:16pm

re: #350 Malatrope

Thanks..I never expected a wonk like Condi to do squat. And there was the small issue of Condi and Powell doing the rubber chicken circuit of arab organizations. I think that John Bolton will do what is so long overdue. He certainly scared the shit out of the useless
disUnited nations...I admire President Bush for making the interim appointment. I bet there were ululululations and sweetbreads for all in that dilapidated slum that day when his term expired.

John Bolton has integrity, a word not often applied to anyone in office. The only other man I ever applied it to was the late Father Robert Drinan, who was my parents' zt"l U.S Congressman(MA). ..and a Dem. They were Republicans, but voted for him proudly. How I wish we would see his like again.

371 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:25:03pm

re: #360 NY Nana

My 71st birthday will be Inauguration Day, 2009, and I want to see President Giuliani take the oath of office with Sec. of State Bolton looking on, smiling.


That iwould be a fine Birthday present for you and the rest of us, NY Nana:)

372 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:25:18pm

re: #366 kreigwagon

re: #358 BenZacharia

re: #348 kreigwagon

The POTUS does not have to walk on water, he/she just needs to have leadership qualities and lead this nation.

Absolutely. Well said.

G'nite all. 0400 PT comes early these days.

373 RedPepper  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:26:10pm

re: #361 Malatrope

If Hillary gets elected, this country really will go straight to Hell.

Amen. It is not about who you want to vote for. It's about what you want to vote against.

374 Malatrope  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:27:14pm

re: #370 NY Nana

I sure agree with everything you say about Bolton. His stint at the UN was a breath of fresh air I thought I'd never breathe. But I do think State is beyond redemption.

Now, I am going to hit the sack!

375 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:29:11pm

re: #371 kreigwagon

Thanks! Now I just have to click my ruby slippers together 3 times, and hope that Shrillary never even makes it through the primaries.

376 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:29:11pm

re: #360 NY Nana

I want to see President Giuliani take the oath of office with Sec. of State Bolton looking on, smiling.

Unless you have some secret plan that's going to get about 10 more Republicans into the Senate next year, I think you can abandon that fantasy.

Remember, the Secretary of State has to be confirmed by the Senate, which, in the current political environment, means getting 60 votes.

Never going to happen.

377 bikermailman  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:29:12pm

re: #359 kreigwagon

re: #347 Malatrope

re: #354 BenZacharia

All I know is "An armed society is a Polite society."

Didn't Australia ban all firearms a while ago?
I believe their crime-rate is way up.

Same thing in England.

378 progressoverpeace  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:29:30pm

I think you are selling Rudy short, a bit. Don't forget that Rudy was the one who told Arafat that he wasn't welcome in New York, even after the State Department was okay with it. Rudy told the UN not to let the door hit them on the way out, when they threatened to leave New York, and Rudy's great act of tearing up the check that that sheik gave after 9/11, along with some stupid comments about American foreign policy.

I've not seen Rudy cave in to any of this sort of stuff for years, and I don't expect him to do so, now. Have a little faith.

379 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:29:43pm

re: #372 Malatrope

Sweet dreams!

380 Fearless Fred  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:31:09pm

re: #364 Irene NYC

It was horrible.

381 bikermailman  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:33:39pm

re: #375 NY Nana

re: #371 kreigwagon

Thanks! Now I just have to click my ruby slippers together 3 times, and hope that Shrillary never even makes it through the primaries.

I've thought for over a year now that she isn't a lock to get the nomination, and as time goes by, I'm firmer on that feeling. If Albore gets in, she's cooked.

382 Steve  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:34:07pm

NY Nana: I hope that you got enough sleep from watching the kids yesterday.

383 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:34:20pm

re: #370 NY Nana

NY Nana you mentioned the key word "Integrity", something that is sorely lacking in our society today. You do remember back in your youth that a Man's (or Women's) word could be trusted. Now words don't mean squat. We adults/parents must return back to that time by enforcing ethics and integrity on our children. I think our society has done a great disservice to our youth since the 1960's. throw out the pc crap and let's raise these kids right or were gonna get stuck with more like Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, and even another Bill Clinton.

384 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:34:28pm

re: #376 lobo91

I have a feeling that Congress will be cleaned out, and that in the end the Republicans will be in control..and that John Bolton will be confirmed.

Look at how many donks are hanging on by the skin of their teeth ,with the likes of Pelousy™, Reid, etc., and other donks too numerous to mention. They are about as popular as the plague.

This is why the Republicans must do their all to get out the vote.

385 Irene NYC  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:34:34pm

re: #380 Fearless Fred

re: #364 Irene NYC

It was horrible.

Amazing that we were willing to put up with everything we did in the name of some liberal fantasy. And it only took a quarter century to wake up from the nightmare!
;)

386 lobo91  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:35:04pm

As a clarification, my fear of Giuliani as President isn't that he'll actively do anything to get more gun laws passed.

I'm working on the assumption that Congress is still going to be in Democrat control next year. Once they've tired of passing stupid, meaningless bills to snipe at Bush, they may actually start working on new gun bans.

I don't believe Giuliani would do anything to stop them.

387 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:35:48pm

Special Giuliani/CAIR/Kos twofer Haiku -

Forge a new will.
Undermine the jihad.
CAIR will wither.

Koslings watch now.
Eager to cry out "bigot!"
Make them CAIR-less.

388 Irene NYC  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:36:10pm

re: #386 lobo91

The dems will be too busy enacting socialized medicine to worry about guns.

389 Fearless Fred  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:39:53pm

re: #385 Irene NYC

re: #380 Fearless Fred


re: #364 Irene NYCIt was horrible.

Amazing that we were willing to put up with everything we did in the name of some liberal fantasy. And it only took a quarter century to wake up from the nightmare!
;)

Well, now I can completely agree with you! ... And that's nice.
It's weird though, that so many don't know that story.

390 Steve  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:42:27pm

re: #388 Irene NYC

re: #386 lobo91

The dems will be too busy enacting socialized medicine to worry about guns.


Nay, I think they will be stupid enough to go for both. Especially when you can tie gun ban to health care.

391 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:44:08pm

re: #381 bikermailman


I have to find a way to survive her being our Senator. I think there is a very good chance that there will be more disclosures over the evil doings and scandals of the Billaries' co-Presidency. I wish that Hannity would make a 2 hour, or whatever it takes, special of the weekly episodes on them, on Hannity's America..excellent info that needs to be seen in one go, in prime time, when there is no sporting event.

And I pray that you are right!

392 Fearless Fred  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:47:15pm

I wouldn't have cared so much about Rudy tonight except for the Jihad Spence thing. What's up with Fred? I'm amazed.

393 francisco d'anconia  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:47:59pm

For the people in the gun argument, the best essay ive ever read on it is from bill whittle, i think the essay is entitled freedom.

This is really a must read, but it takes a while. Truly a remarkable piece of thinking.

394 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:49:52pm

re: #383 kreigwagon

Perfect post. It seems that Shrillary's 'it takes a village' crap has really taken over, as I have too often said..and yes, it is really an uphill Battle to raise a child the old-fashioned way, but my hat is off to the parent and parents who do. There are a group of lizards that have that integrity, and are raising kids who will be our future leaders, hopefully.

Ands I forgot in my last post re Albore to say that his daughter said there is no chance of his running..too lazy to do a search..bed time!

395 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:52:25pm

re: #382 Steve

Still recovering, thanks, but it was worth every second!

In fact, if I don't say goodnight? I will fall asleep on the keyboard.

G'nite,all!

396 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 10:57:12pm

re: #390 Steve

Are there any Senate positions being voted on come November 2008?

397 NomadOfNorad  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 11:00:40pm

re: #391 NY Nana

re: #381 bikermailman


I have to find a way to survive her being our Senator. I think there is a very good chance that there will be more disclosures over the evil doings and scandals of the Billaries' co-Presidency. I wish that Hannity would make a 2 hour, or whatever it takes, special of the weekly episodes on them, on Hannity's America..excellent info that needs to be seen in one go, in prime time, when there is no sporting event.

And I pray that you are right!

I'd actually like to see made available online those recordings, in video where possible, of what the Democrats said in favor of invading Iraq, and then where they later said things against it as if they'd always been against it. With date and context notes attached.

398 hooligan  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 11:00:58pm

Sent an e-mail and donated the money I had saved up for expensive Japanese moisturizer to the campaign. I am not kidding---in my world, that's a WAR CHEST! :)

(slathers on some more Oil of OldLady and tumbles back to bed)

Thanks for the heads up, Charles.

399 Fearless Fred  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 11:03:21pm

re: #393 francisco d'anconia

Criminals, and criminal regimes ranging from The Brow-Ridged Hairy People ...

I'm reading ...

400 Catttt  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 11:04:16pm

re: #356 lobo91


I'm not a one-issue voter. There are actually several reasons I won't vote for him or any other RINO.

Oh, right. Now that I called you on it, since that's what you've been posting, you have OTHER reasons. You're just not going to say what they are.


No, I'm really not.

Oh - gee, since you put it that way - REALLY not. Right.

Sorry,

No you're not. You're smug, emotional, and snotty. When people say "Sorry, but..." they are almost always not sorry. They are gleeful.

... but you shouldn't get your information from Sarah Brady or Rosie O'Donnell.

You don't know me. I suggested a few things based on what you said, which was all about how you would not vote for someone because of guns. You don't even know my stand on gun ownership. I said nothing about my views - I was talking about YOUR narrow-minded focus.

Attacking someone personally rather than detailing one's own argument is petty, and it may get you excited, but it won't make any points and won't sway anyone.

There is definitely a correllation between legal gun ownership and crime, but it's a negative one.

Show me the money.
401 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 11:06:01pm

Dennis Miller and O'reilly cracking heads


Just scroll down and click on the video link at the right. Chutch, Lohan and even Kos, can't escape the bruising.

402 Fearless Fred  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 11:07:57pm

re: #393 francisco d'anconia

For the people in the gun argument, the best essay ive ever read on it is from bill whittle, i think the essay is entitled freedom.

This is really a must read, but it takes a while. Truly a remarkable piece of thinking.

But how could I get my Democrat (the entire population of the People's Republic of Austin) friends to read this?

403 kreigwagon  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 11:13:53pm

re: #402 Fearless Fred

Great link...thanks

404 Catttt  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 11:14:56pm

re: #393 francisco d'anconia

For the people in the gun argument, the best essay ive ever read on it is from bill whittle, i think the essay is entitled freedom.

This is really a must read, but it takes a while. Truly a remarkable piece of thinking.

Mr. Whittle, imho, is a brilliant guy. I'm too pooped tonight, but I'll read that tomorrow. And this topic reminds me that I need to replace my old Ruger and renew my NRA membership. (My problem with the replacement is what I want is too expensive, and I can't make up my mind on something less expensive.)

Night all.

405 Fearless Fred  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 11:17:46pm

re: #404 Cattt

'nite ...

406 Fearless Fred  Wed, Jul 25, 2007 11:21:17pm

re: #400 Cattt

lobo91 ---
I know you were sincere and well-meaning. And I didn't think you were being tacky.

407 uptight  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:10:22am

Sorry LGF - I'm backing CAIR on this one

I think Guiliani's comments were disgraceful. When Muslims blow up innocent, unarmed civilians it is not "Islamic terrorism"...it is "Islamic culture".

"Terrorism" implies some sort of malice for purely political gain, when really the motives of Al Qaeda folk are much more simple and pure. They only want to follow their beloved prophet Mohammed, who also loved to kill civilians.

They aren't doing this for kicks or to protest against policy. They want to set up a global Islamic theme park where we can all enjoy the wonderful fruits of their religious experience, dress our women like darth vader, whip men for trimming their beards, ban music, punish religious freedom with death, hang gays, stone women who've been raped.

So let's not be judgemental - after all, it would be rude of us to impugn the religious beliefs of others.

408 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:07:05am

I'm not a U.S. citizen, but I sent an e-mail anyway. All we infidels have a stake in seeing the USA with a strong leader who will take a firm hand against islamic terror.

409 Kulhwch  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:16:53am

<Saluting>

    Sir, yes sir!  Email fired off promptly, sir!

}:)     [Secret Lizard Army salute, handshake, & Merengue step ...]

410 yochanan  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:45:30am

MikeySDCA calling the president SHRUB means you really belong on KOS and not LGF.

go away troll

411 yochanan  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:59:15am

those who use the term RINO will end up getting a DEMO elected way to go boys.

412 NYCRepublican  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:18:05am

My e-mail:

Dear Sirs:

Please tell Mr. Giuliani that if he stands up to CAIR, and names them accurately as supporters of terrorist organizations, he will get not only my vote, but he will get my financial support as well.

413 baconeatingkaffir  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:38:55am

I think I need to start my own branch of CAIR

Citizens
Against
Islamist
Retards

Do you think they have their name copyrighted?

414 BenZacharia  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 6:17:12am

re: #411 yochanan

those who use the term RINO will end up getting a DEMO elected way to go boys.

Right arm! Vote for Specter/McCain! Vionivich/DeWine!

415 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 6:22:52am

Democrats won't mention "Islamic Terrorism" at the debates, but democrats in congress call Republicans "jihadists".

416 MODERATIONIST[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 6:55:12am
417 Saif al Kufr  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 6:56:46am

My email to Giuliani team:

Dear Mr. Giuliani,

I am writing in support of your honest and courageous criticism of the Democratic presidential candidates for their failure to use the words "Islamic terrorists" during the Democratic debates. Although I am a registered Democrat, the combination of your liberal social policies and your strong stance on our nation's defense against Islamic terror could very well lead me to vote Giuliani in 2008 if you secure the Republican nomination. I urge you to maintain your courageous and vital stance on our nation's safety, even in the face of pressure from Islamist groups like CAIR, whose sinking national membership belies their claim to represent our Muslim countrymen.

All the best,

418 FishFearMe  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 7:02:44am

Ed...ever been to Houston in July? Gee-mo-netti. No 95 degrees and 90% humidity? Lay off the Shiner Bock, bro.

419 harpsicon  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 7:15:22am

I was just about finished with a long post, and accidentally hit F1, which took me to browser help. Backspace brought me back here, but the post was gone, i.e. the site reloaded instead of just going back to where it was.

Charles, any way to change that? Most annoying to lose all that writing...

Best,
H

420 ChildOfMary  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 7:22:12am

My email to Rudy:

Dear Rudy G.,

Thank you for having the courage to name the enemy. Despite those who are or choose to be in denial, our enemy is indeed "Islamic Terrorism" perpetrated by "Islamic Terrorists."

That I should even have to write this message is amazing -- think about it, we who choose to educate ourselves so we understand what we face feel compelled actually congratulate someone in public life for naming our enemies. I swear, this generation of citizens and politicians would have lost WWII. If we are to win, we need to fight like they did in WWII. Maybe if we had acted like an occupying force in Iraq at the beginning, instead of trying to be "politically correct", things would be more stable there now; not perfect, mind you, but better. I for one am sick of the half-hearted effort we are putting forth in this war. I am ashamed of my many of my fellow citizens including many in the political class. I am disgusted with our current President for not communicating with us, early and often, about the war and our enemies. Many citizens need to be educated in this country so most will understand what we, our children, and our grandchildren face. And naming the enemy is certainly the first step.

So despite the complaining and whining of CAIR and their ilk, you keep naming the enemy. Please. God knows, somebody has to.

Gratefully yours,

421 madmama  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 8:28:23am

#196 Dublin (Ca) Dude
I'm also a volunteer for Rudy here in S. Fla.
I've contacted the south Fla director here and mentioned that the LGFs crowd is rooting for him...NOT to back down.
As per a conversation here in regards to this exact issue of Rudy not backing down on his beliefs...many who know him say that Rudy has absolutely NO qualms whatsoever to call a spade a spade!
That's why I'm supporting him in the first place.
And for you people who think Rudy's going to take your guns...
Rudy knows EXACTLY who the enemy is...and he's not going to disarm Americans at this time in history knowing that we need to defend ourselves now more than ever!
Rudy is no idiot.
Anyway, he has said many times...that he supports the 2nd amendment.
It always comes back to the point...don't vote for him and see what you get instead!

422 EE  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 8:42:13am

re: #413 baconeatingkaffir

I think I need to start my own branch of CAIR

Citizens
Against
Islamist
Retards

Do you think they have their name copyrighted?

As a parent of a lovable retarded child, I object to your associating retarded people, who in general are gentle and loving will not harm anyone, and who are as delightful to be with as children are, with this Islamist front group CAIR.

If you need a word beginning with R, I suggest that you might think of a rodent that begins with the letter R, which would be a lot more appropriate.

423 SagamoreGal  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 8:53:58am

"Big pressure is being put on Giuliani to compromise his stance on Islamic terrorism; we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg."
By GW, Condi, and the State Dept, n'est-ce-pas?

424 wrathofasma  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 9:35:47am

All right, I did my part and called the Giuliani campaign office. I wish I did a better job, but it's good enough. The guy on the line said he got a lot of calls about that. Maybe I should call the other number, and this time I'll be better prepared.

Meanwhile, I got this from Anti-CAIR's mailing list:

New York Attorney Andrew Nitzberg has asked Anti-CAIR for assistance in locating witnesses. Please read the following and help out if you can.

Thank you,

Andrew Whitehead
Director, Anti-Council on American-Islamic Relations (Anti-CAIR)

=== ===


My name is Andrew Nitzberg and I am a trial attorney practicing largely in the state of New York. I am the lawyer responsible for the trial victory of Lee Kaplan against Mohammed Salahi earlier this year. (The action was for private speech by Salahi that cost Lee Kaplan several jobs. The 'free speech' defense fell flat because this was for private, not public, speech. The court records and decision are posted online by the California court administration.)

I am filing for an injunction against George Mason University for their upcoming conference of the 'International Solidarity movement', the US wing of Hamas.

I need assistance in the form of evidence. Of course there is lots of evidence to show that the ISM is a violent, Jew-hating group which directly assists terrorists in coming to their targets and similar activities. But i need evidence admissible in a court of law.

No one will be required to appear in court or to travel (except me -- the pro bono (unpaid) lawyer).

1. I need statements from persons who have directly observed ISM personnel stating things like, "Kill the Jews", "We support the resistance of the Palestinian people even when they engage in Terrorism" , "We work with Hamas in the West Bank and Gaza", "We work with Hizballah".

Persons attending the Michigan ISM conference in (I think) 2002 would be very helpful here.)

2. I need statements indicating that persons have observed ISM persons beating up persons who do not support the agenda of the ISM (this should be very easy- they beat people up every year at these things.)

3. I need statements that persons have personally observed ISM personnel with weapons or transporting weapons. Statements from ISM personnel that admit to such contact with weapons are excellent.

4. There are people looking for the 'perfect plaintiff' for the action. (We have general students (2) eager to sign on, but we would like the 'perfect plaintiff' -- who is a student (BA or grad)/administrator/faculty member who has a family member in Israel. (The Virginia criminal code makes this a very attractive plaintiff). Any Jewish person is eligible because we can shake the family tree and find some relative who is living in Israel.

Thank you for this help. Every terrorist is my enemy because I am a friend to freedom. I am hopeful that I will find many friends in this effort.

Andrew Nitzberg

Please respond to: ajnn@msn.com

425 vbMark  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 9:46:01am

Say no to Giuliani. Pro abortion. No thanks.

[Link: www.partymonitor.com...]

426 EE  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:56:07pm

Rudy Giuliani is the Republican candidate with the best chance of beating Hillary Clinton. Clinton is very popular, but Giuliani has the best chance, among the Republican candidates, of emerging as the victor in the general election.

re: #425 vbMark

Say no to Giuliani. Pro abortion. No thanks.

[Link: www.partymonitor.com...]

Giuliani is not going to force people to have abortions. Raised religiously, he is personally opposed to abortion, but he isn't in favor of having the federal government force women to give up control over their own bodies in being forced to bring all pregnancies to term. No new legislation is needed to compel women to give up control of their bodies.

Being tolerant of women's rights, including the right of pregnant women to have the final say over their own bodies, and being strong on America's right and duty to defend itself against Islamic terrorism, Rudy Giuliani can win in the general election, and the fate of America and of Western civilization may be affected by who our leaders are.

427 Malleus Dei  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 9:22:36pm

Giuliani is on the wrong side of both gun control and abortion. We simply can't afford to support someone who is so very wrong on such vital issues.

Fred Thompson '08!

428 Malleus Dei  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 9:27:33pm

re: #411 yochanan

those who use the term RINO will end up getting a DEMO elected way to go boys.

RINO, Demonrat, what's the difference? They're both on the wrong side of all of the important issues. The difference between Specter and Ted Kennedy is what? A quarter of an inch at best?

Elect REPUBLICANS. Elect Goldwaters, Reagans, and Thompsons, not McCains, Giulianis and Specters.


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