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'Scott Thomas' - Engaged to TNR Staffer?

Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 12:15:54 pm PDT

More problems for The New Republic—details at Ace of Spades HQ.

And yes, I’ve also found IP addresses used by TNR in my server logs.

UPDATE at 7/26/07 1:01:23 pm:

I didn’t want to run with this story based on nothing more than a rumor, but on Tuesday “Rugby the Rat” made an appearance at LGF (after a long absence) and posted this:

I’ve heard through the grapevine that at least a few members of TNR’s editorial staff consider the wife of “Scott Thomas” to be a good friend — that’s how the magazine originally made the acquaintance of “Thomas”; that’s how they know that (at the very least) he really is a soldier on active duty in Iraq; and that’s a contributing factor as to why they’re dragging their feet on the investigation.

UPDATE at 7/26/07 1:04:07 pm:

Here’s an article by Elspeth Reeve in 2004, quoting “Scott Beauchamp:” Columbia Missourian - Going for broke.

“Glenn is completely submerged in politics on campus. It is honestly impossible to think about politics at MU without thinking of Glenn,” says Scott Beauchamp, editor-in-chief of Prospectus, a liberal campus news magazine. Beauchamp and Rehn met one year ago while campaigning for Howard Dean.

(Hat tip: Stormy.)

UPDATE at 7/26/07 1:19:58 pm:

The LGF Irony Meter just went off the scale; an article by Elspeth Reeve at The Center for Public Integrity: It’s All Relative.

WASHINGTON, December 20, 2006 — Arkansas’ term limits forced Mike Creekmore out of his job as a Democratic state representative in 2004, but he still has a strong connection to the General Assembly. His wife, Dawn Creekmore — also a Democrat — was elected to serve in his old seat in the next legislative session.

The spring following her election, Mike Creekmore was hired to lobby for a bill on behalf of pharmaceutical services company Caremark Rx. Dawn Creekmore was not on a committee that dealt with the bill, but “it was a little odd” to see her in the statehouse, according to her husband — not that it mattered, though. “She’s a pretty independent thinker,” he said. Mike Creekmore terminated his lobbyist registration after a week, and the bill never made it out of committee.

The Creekmores are just one example of the family ties evident in the legislative and lobbying ranks of the nation’s state capitols. Through its six-month investigation of state legislators-turned-lobbyists, the Center for Public Integrity found not only ex-lawmakers cashing in on legislative experience, but wives, husbands, sons and daughters of sitting legislators as well. ...

But concerns go beyond access. A lobbyist’s compensation is dependent on his or her success at persuading legislators. If a lobbyist is married to a legislator, the lobbyist’s compensation benefits both and creates a significant conflict of interest.

(Hat tip: Dianna.)

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1 zombie  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:16:40pm

Charles the IP whiz -- caught them red-handed.

2 RTLM  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:18:11pm

LOL To where does THIS bunny hole lead?

3 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:19:01pm

Really? What's his name?

4 Doug  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:20:04pm

Let the Fit Hit the Shan!

Woo Hooo!

5 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:20:15pm

It seems they're actually married. Elspeth Reeve went to the University of Missouri, and she's won an award.

Oh, man, poor TNR. Lazy and ideologically motivated choice of "diarist."

6 COQUIMBOJOE  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:22:29pm

I love the smell of liberal idiots being outed for the liars they are in the morning.

7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:22:40pm

re: #3 Ben Hur

Really? What's his name?

Beat me to it

8 distwalker  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:22:49pm

The Internet has sure made it chicanery much more difficult, huh? Live right.

9 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:23:23pm

[Link: ghostsonfilm.blogspot.com...]

Train ride to Wurzberg: 11 Euro
Two Steins of Beer: 12 Euro
Having a girlfriend that embodies racial perfection: priceless

Spoken like a true Lib.

10 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:23:36pm

I think Hot Air's going to have to open a new thread. The updates are now longer than the original revelation.

Same thing's happening to Ace. His source has been fired.

11 COQUIMBOJOE  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:23:40pm

re: #1 zombie

Charles the IP whiz -- caught them red-handed.

Great job Charles, let hope they remain ignorant and arrogant! It makes them so much easier to expose.

12 RTLM  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:23:55pm

Oh - and Hello TNR

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13 justadot  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:24:59pm

Plamerized again.

14 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:25:21pm

Where's Cognito to tell us that this is okay?

15 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:26:30pm
'Scott Thomas' - Engaged to TNR Staffer?

Irrelevant. The veracity of Thomas' fanciful tales should be the focus of the blogosphere's attention.

16 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:26:46pm

I would apply Occam's Razor to the situation. This might explain how and why they discovered him and decided to run his pieces, but it has nothing to do with how and why Beauchamp's stories weren't fact checked before being run by TNR.

As it stands, the veracity of the stories is key. The connection to a TNR staffer is extraneous IMO.

17 Arbalest  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:27:08pm

How could the mighty editors at TNR not know of the marital status of one of their staffers? There are IRS forms involved (W-4).

On the other hand, they seemed to be able to start checking their "source" extremely quickly . . .

Did someone "out" Elspeth Reeve? Who? Quick, appoint a special prosecutor.

18 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:28:00pm

re: #16 lawhawk

Maybe they gave his a pass based on his relationship with the staffer.

19 David E  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:28:58pm

If were are all lucky they can get married in Fort Leavenworth.

20 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:29:21pm

re: #15 Dirk Diggler

Irrelevant. The veracity of Thomas' fanciful tales should be the focus of the blogosphere's attention.

Maybe not, but it does open the possibility that his wife was coaching him on what sort of stuff to write.

21 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:29:25pm

re: #9 Ben Hur


She's hot though.

22 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:29:40pm

re: #16 lawhawk

Veracity does remain the main question, yes, but I really want to know how this happened.

I want to know how the information stream was poisoned.

23 vxbush  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:30:28pm

re: #20 Aladin Sane

... his wife

Please, everyone, go read the link. She is engaged to him, not married.

And I agree: this is a case of convenience, but it cannot damage the article. The article needs to be torn to shreds on its own merits.

24 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:30:39pm
25 Charles  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:30:43pm

I agree that the focus should be on the veracity of the stories -- but this is not irrelevant. It has a distinct odor.

26 Kerfuffle  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:30:50pm

LOL perfect.

27 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:31:26pm

So, Beauchamp is married to a TNR Staffer - Culture of Corruption anyone?

-S-

28 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:31:37pm

re: #23 vxbush

Okay, wife-to-be. My point was that this woman could have been coaching him on what to write.

29 kutabeach  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:32:08pm

We could all chip in and buy them a Turkish Washcloth Cobalt. They have not yet received any of those

30 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:32:58pm

re: #21 Ben Hur

Yes she is.

31 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:33:22pm

re: #23 vxbush

Already done.

I am still exasperated by the inability of anyone at TNR to simply go outside and look at a few mutts, after consulting google as to the width of a Bradley's track.

For the record, I measured my personal mutt - 28 inches, nose to base of tail. This translates as, "this dog story is nonsense."

32 David E  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:34:04pm

re: #25 Charles

Agreed, I believe is is correct that he was hired because they knew he would write the hate filled stuff they wanted and frankly truth be damned.

33 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:34:17pm

WRATH!

I have not forgotten you!

Been very busy!

34 macofromoc  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:35:02pm

well hey TNR lurker (*)

35 vxbush  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:35:10pm

re: #28 Aladin Sane

re: #23 vxbush
My point was that this woman could have been coaching him on what to write.


Oh, no disagreement there. Perhaps Charles puts its best: it adds a general odor to the whole scenario.

36 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:35:13pm

re: #33 Ben Hur


No problem. I've fogotten myself. Stay busy!

37 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:35:35pm

I could say SO much about this, but.

I can't stop laughing!

38 jcm  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:36:13pm

Others is a previous thread mentioned that the level of writing may not have been consistent with a person of his background. His close association with a TNR staffer brings up the question; was the piece ghost written to fit the agenda using his persona to lend credence to the story?

39 Carolina Girl  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:36:20pm

re: #13 justadot

I love it when the 'bats develop a new custom and practice, don't you.

(and psst....I am SO stealing that "Plamerized" thing...)

40 zmdavid  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:36:35pm

The new "Winter Soldier"? Will he become an "expert witness" at Senate hearings like John Kerry?
Actually he sounds more like Kerry all the time (marrying for profit, lying about atrocities).

41 Lewis  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:36:44pm

#10 Dianna 7/26/2007 12:23:36 pm PDT reply quote

I think Hot Air's going to have to open a new thread. The updates are now longer than the original revelation.

Same thing's happening to Ace. His source has been fired.

Anyone remember Throbert McGee?

42 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:36:54pm

So they fired the only person telling the truth?

BWAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

And this website Discarded Lies is filled with liers.

BWWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA

What a bunch of asshole commies.

Lets all sit around the mass graves and sing the Internationale !

43 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:37:07pm

re: #35 vxbush

Oh, no disagreement there. Perhaps Charles puts its best: it adds a general odor to the whole scenario.

Yes, Charles did put it best. Dagnabit!

I mean it's one thing to represent that "we found this soldier and here's what he's saying" and quite another to find he's engaged to someone on staff.

44 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:37:55pm

re: #40 zmdavid

The new "Winter Soldier"? Will he become an "expert witness" at Senate hearings like John Kerry?
Actually he sounds more like Kerry all the time (marrying for profit, lying about atrocities).

Want to bet he voted for KERRY. I've get 10 bucks on it

45 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:38:17pm

Apparently though, Rugby's owner was let go from TNR this morning.

(Near as I can tell.)

46 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:38:18pm

re: #41 Lewis

Anyone remember Throbert McGee?

Shit! Throbert did work there, didn't he?

47 easy  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:38:47pm

What is her maiden name, Plame?

48 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:39:03pm

Wow...just Wow.

Can you spell N-E-P-T-O-S-I-M? Go TNR!

:-)

49 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:39:30pm

~sniff sniff~ Smells like, erm, I think it smells like...yea, just like, yea! FISH! That's it! It smells fishy!

50 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:39:39pm

Aladin Sane,

Maybe not, but it does open the possibility that his wife was coaching him on what sort of stuff to write.

The stories are either bullshit or they're not. Nothing else matters at this point. Allahpundit is right. The left will point to his existence and say "Aha, Scott Thomas is real! You right wingers have all been pwned!" Well Scott Thomas' existence was only one of the questions the "right wing" blogosphere raised. The rest concerned his fanciful war diaries.

If the stories are true then this clown and the men in his unit should deservedly be the subject of a court martial.

51 macofromoc  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:39:46pm

"I've never seen combat, but I did stay in a Holliday in last night"

52 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:40:19pm

re: #25 Charles

It certainly has an odor, but it might just as well end in a wild goose chase. However, it might also explain how and why Beauchamp's stories got published in the first place. Did Beauchamp's wife vouch for her husband's credibilty? That might explain how it got into TNR in the first place, but wouldn't that still have to go through the usual fact checking as per the Glass case? Curious.

53 PeaceBeUponHim  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:40:23pm

re: #16 lawhawk

I would apply Occam's Razor to the situation. This might explain how and why they discovered him and decided to run his pieces, but it has nothing to do with how and why Beauchamp's stories weren't fact checked before being run by TNR.

TNR is well known for their fact checking. See: Stephen Glass

54 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:40:27pm

re: #48 Iron Fist

Wow...just Wow.

Can you spell N-E-P-T-O-S-I-M? Go TNR!

:-)

You did that on purpose, didn't you?

55 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:40:41pm

re: #40 zmdavid

The new "Winter Soldier"? Will he become an "expert witness" at Senate hearings like John Kerry?
Actually he sounds more like Kerry all the time (marrying for profit, lying about atrocities).

I get the impression that if this worthless tool actually meets with our current enemy, his head will somehow become detached...

56 PeaceBeUponHim  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:40:54pm

Ah, beaten by seconds.

57 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:42:01pm

re: #50 Dirk Diggler

If the stories are true then this clown and the men in his unit should deservedly be the subject of a court martial.

I can't disagree with a thing you've said. It's the addition of his fiance working at TNR that leads me to believe there's a higher probability that his stories will be proved to be bullshit.

58 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:42:07pm

re: #50 Dirk Diggler,

If the stories are true, his unit is a bunch of certified psychopaths. My bet is he's a bullshitter.

59 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:42:56pm

re: #54 Dar ul Harb,

Um, yeah, of course! ;-)

60 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:43:28pm

So I guess it wasn't to make TNR look bad after all.

61 loppyd  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:43:48pm

re: #44 Dustoff-507

re: #40 zmdavid

The new "Winter Soldier"? Will he become an "expert witness" at Senate hearings like John Kerry?
Actually he sounds more like Kerry all the time (marrying for profit, lying about atrocities).

Want to bet he voted for KERRY. I've get 10 bucks on it


That's a sucker's bet.

I'm out of here!

See you all tomorrow.

62 eastvillageinfidel  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:44:23pm

While I definitely think the focus should remain squarely on the stories themselves, this kind of behind-the-scenes intrigue is just so darn entertaining.

63 WriterMom  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:44:29pm

This is going to be soooooooo funny...

BBBB-BBBUT-they just met yesterday, through an arranged marriage! On line dating!

OT: Breaking News From IRAN-Harry Potter is a Zionist Agent!

64 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:44:41pm

ATTENTION THE NEW REPUBLIC!

YOU HAVE BEEN RATHERED!

Your credibility is now shot.
Please clean out your desks as layoffs will follow.
For those high ups, please contact The Larry King show so you can book your times to whine about how unfair it all was.

TALKING POINTS EXAMPLE:

Man, it just sucks with this new internets thing that we can't just lie the way we used to Larry. I mean, they had it so easy in the USSR with Pravda and all. We really need to gain control of this and the fairness doctrine is a good start.
65 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:45:03pm

re: #46 Aladin Sane

He did work there.

66 Plato  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:45:06pm

I just had a talk with a lib about this a couple of nights ago. He was giving me the...'they haven't disproved it' shpiel. Now as it all unravels...it's soooo funny.

But I hate to think about one of Scott's buddies goofing around and having it blown up by Scott & TNR.

I hate to see any of his buddies get smeared.

67 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:45:20pm

Check out what Elspeth Reeve has been writing: [Link: www.publicintegrity.org...]

The irony is rather painful.

68 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:45:52pm

I wonder if she knows about his chick in Germany?

Cause this aint the girl on his blog:

[Link: journalism.missouri.edu...]

69 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:46:33pm

re: #53 PeaceBeUponHim

TNR supposedly reformed itself after Glass and would do more checking to make sure that they're not exposed like that again. Guess they have to go back to the drawing board.

70 Stormy  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:46:57pm

Hmmm... looks like this relationship goes back to 2004. Here's an article she wrote that includes a quote by him. (Okay, well I assume they're the same people... Elspeth Reeve and Scott Beauchamp aren't exactly "John Smith" type names.

“Glenn is completely submerged in politics on campus. It is honestly impossible to think about politics at MU without thinking of Glenn,” says Scott Beauchamp, editor-in-chief of Prospectus, a liberal campus news magazine. Beauchamp and Rehn met one year ago while campaigning for Howard Dean.

Here's another article she penned that have quotes from him.

Oh how I love the internet...

71 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:46:57pm

re: #41 Lewis

Shhh!

72 Der Hirn Fanger  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:47:31pm

Man this is almost as funny as the Stephen Glass thing.

73 WriterMom  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:47:31pm

re: #14 MandyManners

ROFL

74 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:47:54pm

#9 ben hur

So the Nazi is strong with this one.

If she had 1/2 a brain she would drop this loosers ass asap and find a real man.
It will save her much misery and lawyer bills.

75 vxbush  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:47:58pm

re: #65 lawhawk

re: #46 Aladin Sane

He did work there.

Oh, but I love this graphic. Super fantastic.

76 Cognito  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:49:52pm

re: #14 MandyManners

Where's Cognito to tell us that this is okay?

It's not, obviously.

77 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:51:19pm

re: #68 Ben Hur

I wonder if she knows about his chick in Germany?

Cause this aint the girl on his blog:

[Link: journalism.missouri.edu...]

He really has a thing for Aryans, no?

78 justadot  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:51:54pm

re: #39 Carolina Girl

Thanx for the nod. I'd be happy to never hear that name again.

79 ishabibble  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:53:33pm

re: #50 Dirk Diggler

What do his fellow soldiers, the ones who have his back, think of this foray into reality journalism?

80 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:54:25pm

re: #9 Ben Hur

[Link: ghostsonfilm.blogspot.com...]


Train ride to Wurzberg: 11 Euro
Two Steins of Beer: 12 Euro
Having a girlfriend that embodies racial perfection: priceless

Spoken like a true Lib.

Sieg heil, Scott!

His blog should have "Deutscheland Uber Alles" as background music.

81 jcm  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:54:32pm

This guy smells like Lt. Ehren Watada. Lib background and joins the army to make an anti-war point.

82 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:54:58pm

Can you say "tangled web"?

/I knew that you could

83 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:55:20pm

re: #81 jcm

Say, didn't John Kerry serve in Viet-Nam?

84 jcm  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:56:40pm

re: #83 Aladin Sane

re: #81 jcm

Say, didn't John Kerry serve in Viet-Nam?

Kerry changed his name from "John Kerry" to "John Kerry, I served in Vietnam."

85 ted  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:57:20pm

Resignations for "Spending more time with family" should begin in 5.4.3...2...1...

86 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:57:26pm

I was invited to participate in the Green to Gold (ROTC) program at SIU-Carbondale, and I started my application packet today. I doubt that I'll get a scholarship due to my lackluster GPA, but at least I'll be coming home and going to school. My goal is to become an incompetent leader that gets fragged by 30 something NCO's at a forward operating base in Sadr City. Heres to the memories and stardust kid. love, Scott

From his blog..........................

87 cbinflux  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:59:28pm

re: #14 MandyManners

What a flaming Kontrarian! Nobody can be that obtuse.

88 a.k.a. Will  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 12:59:44pm

Fred Thompson to be on Hannity in a few minutes, after current station break. Maybe he'll be asked about today's appointment of Abraham.

89 WeaselZipper  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:00:40pm
90 GregInSeattle  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:01:34pm

OT--

Imperial Courts continue their rule. Local illegal immigrant laws struck down:

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

91 yochanan  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:02:08pm

re: #9 Ben Hur

8$ for a beer better be damn good beer

92 Der Hirn Fanger  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:02:16pm

Hmmm, Espeth Reeve was the writer who tried to stick for Ann Coulter (I think she pointed out the hypocricy of those who derided Coulter in sexist terms). The moonbats jumped on Reeve for that one.

93 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:02:21pm

re: #86 hous bin pharteen

I was invited to participate in the Green to Gold (ROTC) program at SIU-Carbondale, and I started my application packet today. I doubt that I'll get a scholarship due to my lackluster GPA, but at least I'll be coming home and going to school.

Crap! I didn't realize that this asswipe is from my neck of the woods (S. IL). Do we know where "home" is for the guy?

BTW, he talks about SIU-C. SIU-E (Edwardsville) is the place they arrested the alleged VT shooter wannabe today.

94 cbinflux  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:03:00pm

re: #88 a.k.a. Will

Fred Thompson to be on Hannity in a few minutes, after current station break. Maybe he'll be asked about today's appointment of Abraham.

Cavuto's on now (cst)

95 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:03:31pm

re: #29 kutabeach

We could all chip in and buy them a Turkish Washcloth Cobalt. They have not yet received any of those

That fan is probably overpriced Chinese-made junk. A Wal-Mart fan at a Neiman's price.

96 Steve  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:03:49pm

re: #75 vxbush

re: #65 lawhawk


re: #46 Aladin Sane

He did work there.


Oh, but I love this graphic. Super fantastic.

[Link: discardedlies.com...]
Take this link and then go down to response #30. What gives with this?

97 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:04:15pm

re: #81 jcm

This guy smells like Lt. Ehren Watada. Lib background and joins the army to make an anti-war point.

"Hakuna Watada, what a wonderful world..."

98 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:04:33pm

I went to his MYSPACE
and he says he's in maintance as a mech. Didin't he say he was working on a Bradley, yet he had had no idea how to?

A bit odd, would you not say?

the smell is getting stronger.

99 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:04:45pm

-I ran 4 miles today and vomited

100 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:05:09pm

evariste has reconstructed a time line on the firing of gracie/beth at DL, and notes that if TNR had exhibited this kind of work before publishing Beauchamp's work, it is possible none of this would have happened.

101 cpuller  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:05:34pm

Seems to me they would report the relationship just as if a TV channel reports on a story that involves their parent company. Hiding the connection can be perceived as having something else to hide.

Why cover it up if nothing hinky is going on?

102 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:07:53pm

#87 Ward.

Yeah.
He posts a Cheney quote from 1991 about going after Saddam.
Then posts "silly republicans"

Hippy wanna be.
His poems suck, But then that is the kinda crap lib teachers fawn over.
He is in love with himself.

103 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:08:45pm
104 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:09:18pm

re: #93 jamgarr

re: #86 hous bin pharteen

I was invited to participate in the Green to Gold (ROTC) program at SIU-Carbondale, and I started my application packet today. I doubt that I'll get a scholarship due to my lackluster GPA, but at least I'll be coming home and going to school.

Crap! I didn't realize that this asswipe is from my neck of the woods (S. IL). Do we know where "home" is for the guy?

BTW, he talks about SIU-C. SIU-E (Edwardsville) is the place they arrested the alleged VT shooter wannabe today.

Our local weatherman here in Dallas (WFAA) played baseball at SIU-E.

105 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:09:35pm

I guess I'm invisible.

whatever. I'm supposed to be working, anyway.

106 lowandslow  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:09:44pm

This has probably been linked to previously today but I found it on Blackfives comments from Sue. Sue got it VIA Just One Minute by commenter Enlighted. It shows where Beauchamp more than likely got his skull story.

"More Images Implicate German Soldiers in Afghanistan"
More images showing German soldiers playing with skulls and bones in Afghanistan have surfaced.

107 jcm  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:10:19pm

re: #99 hous bin pharteen

-I ran 4 miles today and vomited

Time to change your nic:

hous bin hurlin'

108 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:10:22pm

Hey Dianna.

109 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:10:23pm

#98 Dustoff.

Claims to be a SAW gunner at some point on his blog.
I remember the PM's in the reserves when I was in (the big 80's) were comic books. I could not effin believe it.

110 jill e  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:10:46pm

re: #89 WeaselZipper


THESE nuns?

[Link: www.vanriet.com...]


I love my German Shepherd! Go Pope Benedict XVI!

111 Spider Mensch  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:10:56pm

re: #96 Steve

re: #75 vxbush


re: #65 lawhawk

re: #46 Aladin Sane
He did work there.

Oh, but I love this graphic. Super fantastic.

[Link: discardedlies.com...]
Take this link and then go down to response #30. What gives with this?

but check out #34 at the discardedlilleis link.

112 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:11:21pm
113 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:11:25pm

re: #105 Dianna


What are you on about?

114 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:12:13pm

re: #108 Ward Cleaver

Hi, Ward.

I'm sure this is utter misery for Elspeth Reeve, but it's sure interesting, isn't it?

We haven't had a good media meltdown in almost six months.

115 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:12:15pm

He campaigned for Howard Dean? What a dope.

/yeeeeeeaaaaaarrrrggghhhh!

116 coz  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:12:34pm

re: #105 Dianna

Hi Dianna!

*waves*

117 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:12:45pm

#107 jcm...

LOL!
Not me silly!
It was from his blog.
I try and run 2 miles several times a week during the colder months.
To damn buzy the rest of the time. Swim instead.

118 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:13:28pm

re: #110 jill e

re: #89 WeaselZipper


THESE nuns?

[Link: www.vanriet.com...]


I love my German Shepherd! Go Pope Benedict XVI!

Me too!

That's his posse, by the way.

119 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:13:42pm

re: #113 Ben Hur

I've posted a couple links.

Given my lack of techiness, this was quite an effort for me. I rather hoped they would be appreciated.

120 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:13:52pm

re: #109 hous bin pharteen

#98 Dustoff.

Claims to be a SAW gunner at some point on his blog.
I remember the PM's in the reserves when I was in (the big 80's) were comic books. I could not effin believe it.


Damn this guys got quite an MOS. LOL

121 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:14:09pm

re: #104 Ward Cleaver

Both of my sisters are SIU-C grads. SIU-E has grown and is getting ready for Div. 1 status.

122 Plato  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:15:14pm

re: #103 taxfreekiller

What's all this fuss about, former Lt. John F. Kerry now unSenator is still out and about with his lies and fraud as his resume for office as a Democrat liberal anti-war loon, why all the fuss about a Private.


You guys here on littlegreenfootballs have why to high standards for loon Democrats.


Any how Tim Russert has all John Kerry's full Navy records and they comply with all the known fact finding needed for a msm report.


gee, this is no sweat for a liberal liar of the press, go find a big fish


how's that as Cognito is not avaible, being inbed and all.


It's my understanding that the entire contents of form 180 haven't been released...has that changed?

123 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:15:21pm

I am wondering if that blonde was even his GF.
Hell, he probably just snapped her pic in a German Bar.

124 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:15:26pm

re: #121 jamgarr

re: #104 Ward Cleaver

Both of my sisters are SIU-C grads. SIU-E has grown and is getting ready for Div. 1 status.

My wife's from Alton, so I know where Edwardsville is.

125 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:15:48pm

re: #119 Dianna

Always appreciated.

126 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:16:25pm
127 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:16:48pm
128 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:16:50pm

#120 Dust-off

I think his MOS description says Pivot Man for the Charlie Foxtrot.

129 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:17:04pm

re: #67 Dianna,

Heh. Very heh.

:-)

130 TimeQuake  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:17:13pm

Test

131 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:17:21pm
132 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:17:33pm

Everything Harry Mudd tells you is a lie.

133 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:17:34pm
134 Perplexed  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:17:43pm
Beauchamp and Rehn met one year ago while campaigning for Howard Dean.

Hee-aaaaaaaaaaay. Didn't realize that derangement was a communicable condition.

135 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:18:08pm

re: #129 Iron Fist

Thanks.

136 Bill Jefferson  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:18:19pm

A guy who in 2004 was a "liberal campus news magazine" editor, Dean campaign worker, and protestor of the military's gender whatchamahoosits, subsequently joins the military? Odd choice, unless like (apparently) Watada he joined as a Fifth Columnist.

We still execute spies, right?

137 jcm  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:18:19pm

re: #117 hous bin pharteen

#107 jcm...

LOL!
Not me silly!
It was from his blog.
I try and run 2 miles several times a week during the colder months.
To damn buzy the rest of the time. Swim instead.

My bad.
He's a pussy 4 miles and hurled? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. If that's the case he's in no shape to hump a SAW and load out.

Before I destroyed my knee and was training for the PJ entrance test I was doing 6 miles in the hills behind the AF Academy followed by 20 laps in the pool, then head to work.

138 NiceLass  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:19:04pm

re: #38 jcm

His close association with a TNR staffer brings up the question; was the piece ghost written to fit the agenda using his persona to lend credence to the story?

Extremely plausible. Charles is right, this really does stink.

139 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:19:12pm

re: #124 Ward Cleaver

My wife's from Alton, so I know where Edwardsville is.

Small world. Alton, home of Robert Wadlow worlds tallest human and nearby Piasa Bird.

140 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:19:44pm

re: #121 jamgarr

re: #104 Ward Cleaver

Both of my sisters are SIU-C grads. SIU-E has grown and is getting ready for Div. 1 status.

The weatherman (Pete Delkus) also played double-A ball in the Twins organization, as a star reliever.

141 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:20:14pm

Hey all, I wanted to get this out of the way. *clears throat*:

"Once again we see the Chimpy-loyalist right wing Echo Chamber Spin Machine kick into overdrive, sending the Fascist F-cking Neocon Sheep™ into a self-generated tizzy about some no-name private writing a perfectly good piece of journalism about the realities of oppression feted out by our troops in Iraq. Of course if I was a pickup-driving ape from a flyover state, I wouldn't want to focus on the real issue of Congress moving to probe the BushCheneyburton attorney general scandal."

/leftist Dem interweb poster type people

142 utah chris  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:20:18pm

Certainly gives a whole new meaning to "pillow talk".

143 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:20:43pm

#137 jcm

was doing 6 miles in the hills behind the AF Academy

To this day I hate running.
And you?

144 Plato  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:20:52pm

re: #133 taxfreekiller


They might be in Sandy Berger's pants.

145 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:21:08pm

re: #132 Peacekeeper


"Harcourt! . . . Harcourt Fenton Mudd! You no account, worthless freeloader. I'll tell you a thing .. ing ... ing."

146 Bob's Kid  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:21:21pm

Oh my gosh...I could have just not gone to work today and stayed glued to the web to read about all this and the time would have been very entertainingly spent.

What a riot.

147 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:22:06pm

re: #134 Perplexed

Indeed. Doctors have confirmed you can contract a sever case of BDS and the dreaded blame-America-first rash through the ears... by listening to assholes.

148 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:22:10pm

(waving) Hi, Bob's Kid!

149 cpuller  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:22:13pm

re: #135 Dianna

re: #129 Iron Fist

Thanks.

I read them. Very eye opening. :) And ironic.

150 a.k.a. Will  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:22:14pm

Well, not a word about the Abraham hire during Hannity's softball interview with Fred Thompson.

151 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:23:02pm

re: #139 jamgarr

re: #124 Ward Cleaver

My wife's from Alton, so I know where Edwardsville is.

Small world. Alton, home of Robert Wadlow worlds tallest human and nearby Piasa Bird.

I want to visit the Wadlow house next time I'm there. My wife's father and mother both once worked at the Owens-Illinois plant. It was awhile before I figured out that Piasa is pronounced PIE-u-saw.

152 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:23:02pm

The world camel jumping championship.......
Jump over camels


"Allahu Ackbar!"
153 jcm  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:23:23pm

re: #143 hous bin pharteen

#137 jcm

was doing 6 miles in the hills behind the AF Academy

To this day I hate running.
And you?

Loath it. Still do 3 a day, lousy habit.

Blew my knee out doing that in those damn hills, stupid me tried to walk it off for a few days, CO damn near gave me an article 15 for not seeking immediate medical treatment.

154 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:23:40pm

re: #144 Plato

re: #133 taxfreekiller


They might be in Sandy Berger's pants.

I'll let you look for them.

/ha ha

155 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:23:48pm
156 Ma Sands  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:23:49pm

(Storm coming in! --fast! Oh, joy! --cool air! 'Bye! :)

157 NiceLass  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:24:33pm

re: #23 vxbush

And I agree: this is a case of convenience, but it cannot damage the article. The article needs to be torn to shreds on its own merits.

I disagree. The questionable connection damages the article's questionable integrity.

/I think that made sense...

158 cbinflux  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:24:39pm

re: #150 a.k.a. Will

Well, not a word about the Abraham hire during Hannity's softball interview with Fred Thompson.

Heh, they're all Great Americans.

159 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:24:50pm
160 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:24:52pm

re: #150 a.k.a. Will

Well, not a word about the Abraham hire during Hannity's softball interview with Fred Thompson.

Yeah, give Hannity a month or so and he'll figure it out.

161 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:25:26pm

Anyone else notice the dates from comments on his myspace page? How does this fucktard continue to witness atrocities in iraq from Germany?

162 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:25:43pm

#153 jcm

Loath it. Still do 3 a day, lousy habit
Beats smoking!

163 Kaymad  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:25:53pm

Sounds like Beauchamp is a John Kerry. Despite his distaste for the military, he felt service adds to his resume. Even Hillary Clinton felt it was worth her time to visit the Marine recruiting station. My guess is he has political ambitions.

164 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:25:53pm

re: #161 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

Anyone else notice the dates from comments on his myspace page? How does this fucktard continue to witness atrocities in iraq from Germany?

He has a Webcam there?

165 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:26:01pm

The important question is:
Is Elspeth Reeve as much of a babe as Valerie Plame?

Power to the Correctly Hip People!

/Paris Hilton OFF

166 cbinflux  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:26:38pm

re: #161 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

Anyone else notice the dates from comments on his myspace page? How does this fucktard continue to witness atrocities in iraq from Germany?

Writes with his right hand, wanks with his left.

167 Clemente  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:27:02pm

re: #54 Dar ul Harb

re: #48 Iron Fist

Wow...just Wow.

Can you spell N-E-P-T-O-S-I-M? Go TNR!

:-)

You did that on purpose, didn't you?

And you as well, I hope?

;)

168 Render  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:27:48pm

heh.

heh.

heh.

Somebody needs to get all this into one place. The real story is far better than the heavily re-written fiction that STB was passing off as his own.

===

Is the "racially-pure" girlfriend that clearly wasn't his girlfriend, really Claudia Schiffer or is just her missing twin?

HEH,
R

169 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:28:12pm

re: #151 Ward Cleaver

Never been to the house but have seen the life-sized statue - impressive.

170 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:28:43pm

re: #164 Ward Cleaver

Maybe...maybe...

I missed the days where you had to actually be in theater to do some solidering.

171 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:29:16pm

re: irony.

Bush & Clinton?

Its nice to see people waking up to the "Governmental Royalty Class" though.

Good morning LGF.

172 Pass The Moonbaticide  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:29:22pm

Why is she not Elspeth Beauchamp on TNR's employment records ?
Dead Giveaway for an uber-lib married couple - Can't use the husband's surname , you know . Sign of female oppression !

173 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:29:43pm

A small victory for infidels in Malaysia. Now if they can only work on the bombing & beheading thing...

Conflict on sharia law resolved

Malaysia's highest court has ruled that legal cases involving non-Muslims cannot be decided by sharia courts, drawing a line after a spate of high-profile cases.
In a landmark judgment, the Federal court held that disputes between a Muslim and a non-Muslim on family and Islamic matters should be settled in a civil court.

Non-Muslims "cannot be present to defend themselves in the sharia courts," the New Straits Times quoted Judge Abdul Hamid Mohamad as saying.

Ethnic Malay Muslims form about 60 percent of the country's population of about 26 million. Hindus, Buddhists and Christians dominate the ethnic Chinese and Indian minorities.

174 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:29:53pm
175 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:30:32pm

re: #166 cbinflux

And that would make him the first American solider in Germany to ever need to make sweet, sweet love to his hand.

It's all starting to make sense....

176 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:30:34pm

re: #165 IslandLibertarian

The important question is:
Is Elspeth Reeve as much of a babe as Valerie Plame?

Power to the Correctly Hip People!

/Paris Hilton OFF

Nah, she's kinda homely. The typical moonbat girl.

177 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:31:21pm

re: #172 Pass The Moonbaticide

Why is she not Elspeth Beauchamp on TNR's employment records ?
Dead Giveaway for an uber-lib married couple - Can't use the husband's surname , you know . Sign of female oppression !

They're getting hitched in October.

178 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:32:00pm

re: #176 Ward Cleaver,

Moonbat girls work on being homely, don't they? It takes special effort to get Moonbat homely :-)

179 a.k.a. Will  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:32:20pm

cbinflux #158 and Ward Cleaver #160

Since the appointment just happed today, Hannity might have missed the news, or he might not know Abraham's history re: immigration issues. But he and Fred and all are also preparing for tonight's "Freedom concert" in San Diego, so they might be softballing everything today.

But Hannity has taken such strong stands against illegal immigration, he'll have to have some comment concerning Abraham's history on the issue.

180 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:32:44pm

re: #161 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

FOB Falcon is going to be looking into this. It's going to be as pleasant for Pvt. Beauchamp as a full cavity search. Either he's lying, in which case he's in trouble, or he's not lying, and he's still going to be in trouble for violating the UCMJ.

Either way, he's got a world of hurt heading his way, to say nothing of what is going on at TNR.

My guess is that he's puffed a bunch of stuff, and thrown in a few facts to keep it real (namely the unit, vehicles, and some locations).

181 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:32:47pm

re: #176 Ward Cleaver


Nah, she's kinda homely. The typical moonbat girl.


I'm sure she will be topless at some protest in 2035.

182 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:32:50pm

re: #176 Ward Cleaver

Nah, she's kinda homely. The typical moonbat girl.

Homely or not, I'd take her to a nice seafood dinner. And then, never call her again.

183 wildwood  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:32:53pm

How is this guy using My Space? Didn't the army ban myspace as a, well, waste of space?

[Link: blog.wired.com...]

184 Holden McGroyn  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:35:30pm

Please, don't let him have a Journalism degree from MU.


I got my last B.J. (bachelor of Journalism) there in 1983. Couldn't stand the left-wing claptrap then and I hear it's only gotten worse. Spent all my time in Booche's watching the Cardinal games and listening to Mike Shhhhannon (and drinking lots of Bud).

Fortunately, I went on to a career with a hell of a lot more dignity, class and professionalism: personal injury lawyer.


Just kidding--I have 32 years in the Navy (28 for retirement, 32 for pay).

As always,
Holden McGroyn

185 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:35:59pm

re: #182 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

re: #176 Ward Cleaver


Nah, she's kinda homely. The typical moonbat girl.

Homely or not, I'd take her to a nice seafood dinner. And then, never call her again.

You're awful.

/lol

186 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:37:04pm

re: #182 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

Homely or not, I'd take her to a nice seafood dinner. And then, never call her again.

You're worse than Hitler.

187 Steve  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:37:48pm

military.com slideshow.

[Link: images.military.com...]

I like #20

188 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:39:13pm

The more I look at Reeve's work, the less I think she ghost-wrote Beauchamp's material.

1) She writes well; graceful, closely-observed, clean prose.

2) She writes about integrity.

3) She demonstrates integrity - read what she wrote about the attacks on Ann Coulter.

I have a very bad feeling about this.

189 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:39:37pm

re: #182 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

Dorothy Mantooth is a Saint!

190 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:39:52pm
191 ErisLDysnomia  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:39:59pm
The spring following her election, Mike Creekmore was hired to lobby for a bill on behalf of pharmaceutical services company Caremark Rx ... The Creekmores are just one example of the family ties evident in the legislative and lobbying ranks of the nation’s state capitols

HA!

More on this sort of shenanigans here.

192 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:40:04pm

Courtesy of a poster at DL, here's their wedding registry info. Funny, it shows two different dates, 10/21 and 10/26.

I also read there a cut-and-paste from Michelle Malkin's site, where an active duty Army guy (and Iraq vet) says that computer records show that Beauchamp has been busted down a rank in the last couple of years, probably from an Article 15. So, he has a major axe to grind.

193 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:40:44pm
194 Holden McGroyn  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:40:51pm

re: #188 Dianna

The more I look at Reeve's work, the less I think she ghost-wrote Beauchamp's material.

1) She writes well; graceful, closely-observed, clean prose.

2) She writes about integrity.

3) She demonstrates integrity - read what she wrote about the attacks on Ann Coulter.

I have a very bad feeling about this.

Gee, maybe she got the BJ from UM-Columbia?

195 NiceLass  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:41:14pm

re: #150 a.k.a. Will

Well, not a word about the Abraham hire during Hannity's softball interview with Fred Thompson.

Wonder when Fred's scheduled for Michael Savage? LOL

196 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:41:17pm
197 vxbush  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:41:35pm

re: #157 NiceLass

re: #23 vxbush

And I agree: this is a case of convenience, but it cannot damage the article. The article needs to be torn to shreds on its own merits.

I disagree. The questionable connection damages the article's questionable integrity.

/I think that made sense...

Normally I would agree with you. But here's why I would prefer we not judge the story on the basis of the author's merit or alleged ties: that will come back to us in spades. The only person who would be able to write an article and be uncritically judged would be Moses or Jesus, and even then the libs would tear them to shreds.

Better to focus on the merits or demerits of the story itself, and then we we put up a story, it should also be judged based on its information and veracity, rather than on the connections or peccadilloes of the author.

198 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:41:55pm

re: #180 lawhawk

I can't imagine ole Pvt. Beauchump returning to Falcon anytime soon. There is a whole slew of training mishaps that would seem appropriate, and I doubt anyone would ask any questions.

I can foresee the leftists raising hell over it for a while, but eventually they'll find some other stodge to pump BS up their rears that they can then pass off as authentic 'war correspondence'. If this slime ball hasn't realized that he's a tool (pun intended) for the moonbats to use then discard, then perhaps a training mishap would be kind of merciful for him.

199 mean Gene  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:41:56pm

OT:
Sabotage in the NASA space program!

NASA caught a worker cutting wires to a computer involved with the International Space Station.

200 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:41:57pm

re: #172 Pass The Moonbaticide

She's been working under "Elspeth Reeve" for a while. Probably hasn't changed her name, and these days (as my SIL found out), you can't just change it on your driver's license and be done. You have to legally change it; it doesn't cost much, and it's fairly routine, but you do have to go through the process.

201 distwalker  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:42:18pm

Looks to me like the Oktoberfest hottie photo on hs blog was stolen from here.

202 POLAR WIND  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:42:56pm

Someone owes our troops an apology. Right now.

203 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:42:59pm

re: #195 NiceLass

re: #150 a.k.a. Will


Well, not a word about the Abraham hire during Hannity's softball interview with Fred Thompson.

Wonder when Fred's scheduled for Michael Savage? LOL

Hannity's not too blog-savvy, so it'll be awhile before he figures out there's a problem.

204 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:43:04pm
205 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:43:06pm

re: #199 mean Gene

Got a link?

206 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:43:15pm

re: #201 distwalker

hahahahaahhaha.

now we just need a translation.

lol.

207 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:43:34pm

re: #204 ploome hineni

thanks.

208 bosforus  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:43:59pm

i can't wait to see the next headline at TNR

209 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:44:16pm

re: #185 Ward Cleaver

re: #186 Dirk Diggler

Why thank you.

I aim to please.

210 GregInSeattle  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:44:34pm

re: #204 ploome hineni

Space Jihad?

211 Charles  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:50:16pm

re: #188 Dianna

The more I look at Reeve's work, the less I think she ghost-wrote Beauchamp's material.

1) She writes well; graceful, closely-observed, clean prose.

2) She writes about integrity.

3) She demonstrates integrity - read what she wrote about the attacks on Ann Coulter.

I have a very bad feeling about this.

I never believed she ghost-wrote the article. I'm fairly good at distinguishing a writer's "voice," and "Shock Troops" has a very similar ring to the blog postings -- just more polished.

212 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:50:21pm

#176 Ward:

Nah, she's kinda homely.

If this is really her (see second pic), actually she looks pretty cute (at least face-wise). Kind of elfin looking. Which might account for the name "Elspeth", which is definitely an elfish name. "If you want Frodo, then come and take him!" cried Elspeth to the Nazgul as she drew her sword.

213 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:50:32pm

There was a young man, name of Scott
Whose relationship thickened the plot
Was he used for his knowledge?
Or just cuz in college
He boinked a J-college lib snot?

214 Spider Mensch  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:51:09pm

re: #201 distwalker

Looks to me like the Oktoberfest hottie photo on hs blog was stolen from here.


when you do a properties check on the pic its from 2002. and tracing out the addy you go to a student orientation site. [Link: aki.deg.net...]

215 MilkOfMalfeasance  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:53:01pm

re: #204 ploome hineni

NASA said today it is investigating suspected sabotage of a recorder placed on the shuttle Endeavour for delivery to the space station where it will track physical stresses on the orbiting lab.

The recorder, which does not play a role in protecting astronauts or the space station, was damaged by an unidentified person or persons and will be repaired. NASA today cleared Endeavour for an Aug. 7 launch.

Was just about to post this. What is the point? Or was it a dry run?

216 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:54:02pm

re: #211 Charles

Thank you. I didn't really think so, either, but since it's been thrown out there (a lot), I wanted to mention why I didn't think she had.

Sorry if I was less than clear.

217 Thanos  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:55:30pm

Since we are tallying Demo Nepotism here, let's not forget this one

[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]

It's All in the Family....

218 distwalker  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:55:58pm
219 looking closely  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:56:33pm

#211 Charles.

Maybe she proofread or "polished" it.

Don't know, don't care (its irrelevant anyway).

This whole incident, though sordid, does give one a kind of hope.

"Winter Soldier" 2007 may have just been averted because of the blogosphere.

220 Catttt  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:57:20pm

Ms. Reeve can do MUCH better than Mr. Beauchamp.

221 distwalker  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:57:28pm
222 Aladin Sane  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:58:13pm
Beauchamp and Rehn met one year ago while campaigning for Howard Dean.

sounds about right...

223 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:58:28pm

re: #218 distwalker


How on earth did you find that!

I hope it's a stock photo and not a girlfriend of Scott Thomas!

224 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:58:33pm

re: #212 Occasional Reader

#176 Ward:

Nah, she's kinda homely.

If this is really her (see second pic), actually she looks pretty cute (at least face-wise). Kind of elfin looking. Which might account for the name "Elspeth", which is definitely an elfish name. "If you want Frodo, then come and take him!" cried Elspeth to the Nazgul as she drew her sword.

Is that Mirkwood Elfish or Rivendell Elfish?

225 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:58:41pm

New moonbat vacation destination?

Iran welcomes US antiwar tourists

A group of Americans who are members of a Virginia State antiwar movement are in Iran to visit some of the country's tourist attractions.

According to tourism officials, the group who entered Iran on July 20 will visit some of the historical, cultural and natural attractions in Shiraz, Tehran, Isfahan, Qom and Yazd.

The group which consists of four men and one woman are slated to visit Imam Khomeini's mausoleum and the Islamic Sciences' International Computer Research Center, CHN reported.

They are also scheduled to meet the head of Iran's Cultural Heritage, Handicrafts and Tourism Organization and a group of chemically wounded war veterans.

[Link: www.presstv.ir...]

226 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:59:07pm

re: #213 jamgarr

He boinked a J-college lib snot?

We always complain about the nastiness of the left. Can we ease up just a little? Or at least be more careful? Please?

227 distwalker  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:59:40pm

re: #223 Ben Hur

Google image search: Oktoberfest 090

228 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 1:59:51pm

Way OT but something to thread to:

Wrath man Jack (DJ extrodinaire) suggests: Rootless Tree

229 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:00:22pm

%u05D9%u05D2%u05D9%u05E2%u05D5 %u05DC%u05E2%u05D9%u05E8 %u05DE%u05D9%u05E0%u05DB%u05DF %u05D1%u05D2%u05E8%u05DE%u05E0%u05D9%u05D4 6 %u05DE%u05DC%u05D9%u05D5%u05DF %u05D0%u05D9%u05E9, %u05E6%u05DE%u05D0%u05D9%u05DD, %u05E8%u05E2%u05D1%u05D9%u05DD %u05D5%u05DE%u05D5%u05DB%u05E0%u05D9%u05DD %u05DC%u05D7%u05D2%u05D9%u05D2%u05D4 %u05D4%u05D2%u05D3%u05D5%u05DC%u05D4 %u05D1%u05E2%u05D5%u05DC%u05DD

Another time in history that would mean something else completely.

It says: 6 million people arrive in Munich, thirsty, hungry, and ready for the biggest party in the world.

230 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:01:05pm

re: #226 Dianna

You've got to be kidding! You pick "boink" to complain about?! You've got waaaaay too much spare time on your hands!

231 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:01:06pm

WTF?

232 easy  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:01:10pm

re: #201 distwalker
Doesn't speak well of his honesty, course he was just kiddin.

233 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:06:10pm

OT: More on the NKVD going after the Bush Admin.


FBI Director Contradicts Gonzales
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

FBI Director Robert S. Mueller said Thursday the government's terrorist surveillance program was the topic of a 2004 hospital room dispute between top Bush administration officials, contradicting Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' sworn Senate testimony.
Mueller was not in the hospital room at the time of the dramatic March 10, 2004, confrontation between then-Attorney General John Ashcroft and presidential advisers Andy Card and Gonzales, who was then serving as White House counsel. Mueller told the House Judiciary Committee he arrived shortly after they left, and spoke with the ailing Ashcroft.

So they are taking "testimony" from I guy who was not even there when the conversation took place over the guy who was.

No show trial here Comrades.

Democrats Urge Perjury Probe of Gonzales

Senate Democrats called for a perjury investigation against Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on Thursday and subpoenaed top presidential aide Karl Rove in a deepening political and legal clash with the Bush administration.
"It has become apparent that the attorney general has provided at a minimum half-truths and misleading statements," four Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee wrote in a letter to Solicitor General Paul Clement.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Democrats issued a laundry list of examples of what one called Gonzales' "lying" before Congress.

"We have now reached a point where the accumulated evidence shows that political considerations factored into the unprecedented firing of at least nine United States attorneys last year," said Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Unprecedented firing? That is a bold face lie from that slime ball.
Ever heard of Clinton, you Bolshevik hack?

The Republicans better get their game on to defeat these evil bastards, if for no other reason than to save their hides. This could not be any clearer that the Dems Bolsheviks are out to criminalize politics. If you disagree with them or oppose them, you are going to jail.

234 Catttt  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:06:11pm

re: #226 Dianna

re: #213 jamgarr


He boinked a J-college lib snot?

We always complain about the nastiness of the left. Can we ease up just a little? Or at least be more careful? Please?

On the other hand, it IS a limerick, after all...

235 Rogue198  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:07:16pm

DUDES!

I went to that school! Now my memories are ruined!

Who do I sue for emotional distress?

236 Jim Rockford  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:08:39pm

Why this is important (married/engaged/whatever to the TNR staffer):

1. Pattern of nepotism not merit in assigning stories.
2. Nepotism causes fact-checking/accuracy to be abandoned (bad to question the squeeze of a co-worker).
3. Nepotistic networks of staffers means a limited view of the universe by the Press -- only related/married people who all know and are connected with each other need apply.

237 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:09:19pm

I can't wait until the left wing blogosphere circles the wagons around this guy. He's such a upright, sterling character, it'll be fun to watch their contortions and tortured defenses of his actions (Why didn't he report the shootings he chronicled to his superior officers? Why didn't he tell his "buddies" to stuff it when they began mocking the burn victim?).

I would like to know how it feels for Ms. Reeve to be engaged to a looney tunes psycho. I wonder if she and her husband spend their precious moments at burn wards mocking the victims.

238 jcm  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:10:14pm

re: #211 Charles

re: #188 Dianna

The more I look at Reeve's work, the less I think she ghost-wrote Beauchamp's material.

1) She writes well; graceful, closely-observed, clean prose.

2) She writes about integrity.

3) She demonstrates integrity - read what she wrote about the attacks on Ann Coulter.

I have a very bad feeling about this.

I never believed she ghost-wrote the article. I'm fairly good at distinguishing a writer's "voice," and "Shock Troops" has a very similar ring to the blog postings -- just more polished.

I am just a suspicious little twerp ;-)

239 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:31:10pm

This guy's writing is downright bizarre, but no secret what his political viewpoint is.. from his myspace blog:

"The bad news: O'Conner was disgusted and retired, giving Bush yet another chance to be firm, forceful, and unwavering in the jaundiced face of logic and decency."

240 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:35:00pm

Well I guess we know that is not his girlfriend.
The man is a walking lie.

241 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:35:24pm

I cant do it without getting through this army experience first, which will add a legitimacy to EVERYTHING i do afterwards, and totally bolster my opinions on defense, etc, and of course its making me a lot less lazy, just because im not use to being lazy any more, etc.

This negates this:

It's been maddening, to say the least, to see the plausibility of events that I witnessed questioned by people who have never served in Iraq. I was initially reluctant to take the time out of my already insane schedule fighting an actual war in order to play some role in an ideological battle that I never wanted to join.

242 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:35:37pm

re: #237 Dirk Diggler

I have a feeling this is going to come as a nasty shock to Ms. Reeves.

243 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:35:40pm
244 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:35:57pm

Because Privates are the real experts.

245 baltodog  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:36:24pm

Private MAGGOT! Private TURD! Private PUKE!

246 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:36:26pm

re: #243 taxfreekiller

I swear I was going to say that as a joke!

It can't be.

247 easy  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:37:17pm

It all goes to show just how anonymous we all are. Didn't someone post where the bride was registered LOL?

248 Catttt  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:37:37pm

I know this is catty of me, but I am really shocked at this!

I mean - would you pay 90 bucks for a 200-thread count percale full sheet set when you can get a 600-count Egyptian cotton set for that or a bit more? ? ?

/

249 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:39:52pm

Cognito is not this guy.
Cognito maybe a fool, but he is not as stupid as this guy.

250 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:41:33pm

re: #248 Catttt

No, it's not catty at all. You're accurately observing the side-effects of the wedding registry process.

Every once in a while, when I look over registries, I get the feeling that, when they hand you the scanner gun, you tend to point at everything in sight. It can get...odd.

This is yet another reason that, should I ever plunge over that particular cliff, I am going to elope.

251 Thanos  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:43:26pm

Hrmm other nepotism... Valerie Plame?


OT:
Found an excellent article written by a Sufi for anyone who ever needs to lay the smack down on a wahabbist in terms he will understand:

252 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:45:15pm
on Tuesday “Rugby the Rat” made an appearance at LGF

That was the ghost of Rugby.

{RIP Rugby the Rat}

253 cpuller  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:45:25pm

re: #248 Catttt

I know this is catty of me, but I am really shocked at this!

I mean - would you pay 90 bucks for a 200-thread count percale full sheet set when you can get a 600-count Egyptian cotton set for that or a bit more? ? ?

/

Why is their wedding date different? Are they getting married to different people?

254 Thanos  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:46:07pm

Ben:

Thanks for pointing out that error, it's appreciated, fixing it now. Must have had my glasses off during that post

255 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:46:41pm
256 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:47:44pm

re: #254 Thanos

What are you referring to?

257 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:47:44pm

Oh, Cattt! Now you've made me curious, and I went over and snooped in their registry.

I feel like a nosy-parker! I am a bad person.

I think I'd better buy them a gift card, just because.

258 akak  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:49:27pm
Fist fights with Turks are a constant source of amazement for people from Texas.

scott your 15 minutes are up, as I'm sure Major KL has dealt with you!

259 Charles  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:49:39pm

(And by the way, "R the R"'s IP address traces to TNR.)

260 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:50:34pm

The more I read his posts on his blog, etc, like this:

I was initially reluctant to take the time out of my already insane schedule fighting an actual war in order to play some role in an ideological battle that I never wanted to join.

The more I believe his is a jobnik exagerating his role in "fighting" the war.

Not that there's anything wrong with jobniks-when they don't exagerate their roles into Rambo.

261 Spider Mensch  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:50:38pm

more pics of the octoberfest, supposed girlfriend, girl at this page...

[Link: aki-deggendorf.de...]

jpg #'s 090, 092 & 103

262 easy  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:51:05pm

re: #248 Catttt

I like her choice of flatware, simple elegant, classic.

263 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:52:00pm

So, this guy is an avowed liberal that joins the army.

I don't know many liberals that would volunteer for the army. In fact, of all the liberals I know, not one of them would even consider it. To take it a step further, every liberal I know holds the military in complete disdain. And living in Westchester County, NY, I know a lot of liberals.

It seems to me that young Mr. Beauchamp joined the army with the intention of doing exactly what he did.

264 Thanos  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:53:14pm

re: #256 Ben Hur

re: #254 Thanos

What are you referring to?

I assumed this was you commenting at my blog:

Ben Hur said,

July 26, 2007 at 2:57 pm · Edit

That’s not Pelosi on the left.

265 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:53:23pm
266 Dave the.....  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:54:17pm

#263 LH

It seems to me that young Mr. Beauchamp joined the army with the intention of doing exactly what he did.

Yes, other blogs have read his stuff (including older things) and it appears he enlisted so he could have the creditionals to be the jaded writer about the horrible armed forces.

Next thing you know he'll be writing about his lucky hat and the Cambodian border.

267 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:54:37pm

re: #261 Spider Mensch

more pics of the octoberfest, supposed girlfriend, girl at this page...

"...all I've got is a photograph..."
--Def Leppard, Pyromania

268 Thanos  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:54:51pm

re: #259 Charles

(And by the way, "R the R"'s IP address traces to TNR.)

There's a thriller series out there by Brad Thor that has a Heroine who got toasted on one side by an IED, wonder if Scott's a Brad Thor fan?

269 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:59:07pm

re: #263 Leonidas Hoplite

living in Westchester County, NY, I know a lot of liberals

Nice area. My daughter went to SUNY-Purchase. The kids there used to troll the backroads for furniture discarded by the rich folks.

270 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:59:25pm

Oh, yeah.

(H/T RIP Ford at discardedlies)

271 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 2:59:49pm

re: #253 cpuller

Note the * (asterisk) beside Missouri? That's where the ceremony will be. They're doing something wedding-related in DC the week before.

Just finished getting a young woman through the process of a "destination wedding." I learned more than I ever wanted to.

I always thought I'd elope. Now I know I will.

272 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:02:02pm
273 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:02:38pm

I hope Rugby's owner finds a new job soon. He has magazine experience now, maybe he can get a job at National Review.

Before LGF did away with tastefully colored weather posts, all the groovy stuff I did I learned from him.

274 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:02:49pm

Oh, the racially perfect girlfriend is a joke.

(Ha ha)

275 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:04:33pm

Too bad this guy wasn't simply posted to someplace like South Korea for his full tour. But I guess most of our army/marine men and women have done a tour in Iraq at this point.

In my mind, this guy has ZERO credibility given he clearly joined simply to say he was a soldier and therefore he has the moral high ground with respect to anything he writes.

Not that he had any credibility to begin with...

276 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:04:36pm

re: #272 buzzsawmonkey

Don't get me started! It was fun, at the end, but...oh, man.

A suggestion: if you ever decide to get married far from where you live, hire a wedding planner!

277 Cognito  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:05:25pm

re: #249 hous bin pharteen

Cognito is not this guy.
Cognito maybe a fool, but he is not as stupid as this guy.

Well... thanks, I guess.

278 Atman  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:06:41pm

re: #266 Dave the.....
It is for the reason you stated that I would like to see him tried and drummed out with a DD. No way then that he could cause anymore damage than he already has......

279 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:07:28pm

re: #277 Cognito

Well, now that you're here, do you have anything to say in your defense?
/

280 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:07:57pm

re: #269 jamgarr


Yes, it is nice, but the property taxes are IN-FRIGGIN-SANE and the whole place is crawling with left-wingers. I wouldn't mind so much but they are wholly intolerant of other points of view. My car was keyed in our town's train station parking lot after I put a W'04 sticker on my bumper. Jerks.

281 easy  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:09:17pm

re: #277 Cognito

Well... thanks, I guess.

LOL
You are plastered, figuratively, over multiple threads. Good luck catching up.

282 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:10:40pm

A blog posting by "Ian Cognito"

Partial:

"The real reasons behind invading Afghanistan and Iraq are locked away in the minutes of the Energy Task Force. The leaders of nations and religions may cast their actions in moral terms, and occasionally they are morally justified, but for the most part it's political theater. No, it's a charade, and you'd have to be very naive to believe the simple-minded explanations (slogans) they say publicly. Idealism is an evolutionary disadvantage compared to realism..."

Sounds like a micheal moore quote..

283 Cognito  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:11:28pm

re: #279 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

re: #277 Cognito

Well, now that you're here, do you have anything to say in your defense?
/

My defense! Did I drink straight from the internet milk carton again?

Bad habit, I guess.

284 YourTaxDollarsAtWork[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:11:38pm
285 Catttt  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:17:23pm

re: #250 Dianna

re: #248 Catttt

No, it's not catty at all. You're accurately observing the side-effects of the wedding registry process.

Every once in a while, when I look over registries, I get the feeling that, when they hand you the scanner gun, you tend to point at everything in sight. It can get...odd.

This is yet another reason that, should I ever plunge over that particular cliff, I am going to elope.

When I married, we eloped. If I were to marry again, I'd elope again. If I were to have a big wedding (yuck), I'd have a money tree - show me the money. :) Any registry I created would be just too weird.

286 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:18:23pm

#277 cognito


Your sorta welcome!
;-)

287 formercorpsman  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:18:30pm

I have been trying to catch up with all of the different links, and history, and subsequently, where we are now.

This guy joined with the intent to do this. No doubt in my mind.

Furthermore, if TNR is corroborating the guys work, are they not complicit with the crimes he claimed?

All I can say is, wow.

Un-freaking-real.

288 DocDublU  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:18:58pm

a comment posted below Beauchamps' disclosure of his true identity caught my eye. this poster sounds so much like an LGFer, I just can't place the username.
posted by tavernel@erols on 2007-07-26 07:57:20 [warn tnr] [respond]
It's been maddening, to say the least, to see the plausibility of events that I witnessed questioned by people who have never served in Iraq.

Pvt. Beauchamp, while I'm happy to see that you have finally done the right thing, that statement is not correct and you know it.

Many of the people questioning your accounts are currently stationed in Iraq. They are your comrades, your fellow soldiers, sailors, and Marines, and they have major problems with quite a few of the details in your stories, like the idea that the driver of a Bradley has time to suddenly swerve to hit dogs, taking his eyes off the road (or possibly snipers) and placing his entire crew at vastly increased risk of running over an IED (the #1 killer of our troops over there). Such an act would be madness, and even if a driver were so inclined, no one else would let him get away with it more than once. It would be suicide.

But not according to you. Apparently drivers have time to hit dogs, write in notebooks, watch for snipers and civilians, and avoid running over IEDs all at the same time! And of all these vital tasks, hitting dogs is the #1 priority!

Yeah. That's plausible.

And then there's the idea that an entire mess hall (the one at FOB Falcon is not large) would overhear someone mocking an IED victim and NO ONE would say anything. Do any of the other readers have any idea how many of these people would have known someone killed by an IED? Do they really think such a "joke" would be amusing to them, that it wouldn't rub someone's nerves just a bit raw?

Yes, we (and I do mean "we" - my husband is a 26 year Marine Corps active duty officer currently stationed in Iraq) do have questions. We have that right. This is America - we have freedom of speech here. If you print something, especially anonymously, you'd best be prepared to defend it vigorously. No one ever said freedom was cheap, or the right to free speech itself came without a price tag.

Other people have the right to their own freedom of expression and that includes the right to question what you have said, if it does not seem right to them. In turn, you have the right to defend what you have said. Hopefully the truth falls out of this somewhere.

It is a sometimes messy, glorious, chaotic, often undignified brawl, but this is America and you are not going to find a whole lot of sympathy by crying 'foul' when people counter your accusations by asking you to back up the inconsistencies in your stories. In fact, having said you witnessed the desecration of a grave site, it is not unreasonable to ask you to explain why you did not report this crime to your command?

Either your story was untrue and should be retracted or you witnessed a crime and allowed the perpetrators to escape punishment and possibly commit more crimes against the Iraqi people. Which is it?

That I even have to ask this question raises serious questions in my mind about your motivation in writing this whole series, because if I had witnessed such an act, I would be talking to my command and wanting to stop things like that from going on, not shoppping the story to the New Republic under a pseudonym.

But that is just me.

289 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:23:49pm

re: #239 Yankee Division Son

This guy's writing is downright bizarre, but no secret what his political viewpoint is.. from his myspace blog:

"The bad news: O'Conner was disgusted and retired, giving Bush yet another chance to be firm, forceful, and unwavering in the jaundiced face of logic and decency."

The guy reeks of moonbat. In fact, I'm amazed he got thru the psych evals because he seems to be unbalanced.

290 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:24:52pm

#275Leonidas Hoplite

..........someplace like South Korea


Risky there.
He might defect.

291 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:26:22pm

re: #288 DocDublU

godfrey quoted the last paragraph in the earlier thread.

Maybe that's where you read it...

292 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:27:50pm

re: #290 hous bin pharteen

We should be so lucky!

293 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:28:18pm

#288 Doc.


Man, tavernel really sawed him off, didn't she.
MY balls were sore after reading that.

because if I had witnessed such an act, I would be talking to my command and wanting to stop things like that from going on, not shoppping the story to the New Republic under a pseudonym.

294 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:30:44pm

#250 Dianna:

Every once in a while, when I look over registries, I get the feeling that, when they hand you the scanner gun, you tend to point at everything in sight. It can get...odd.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Besides, we realy NEEDED those battery-power salt n' pepper mills.

295 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:32:05pm

#293 hous:

The truth hurts! That "not shopping my story" comment is the most bang-on indictment of this creep I've seen anywhere.

296 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:33:37pm

re: #294 Occasional Reader

Besides, we realy NEEDED those battery-power salt n' pepper mills.

Yeah, it can get hard to grind the sea-salt and peppercorns while snuggling.

297 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:33:52pm

re: #287 formercorpsman

I have been trying to catch up with all of the different links, and history, and subsequently, where we are now.

This guy joined with the intent to do this. No doubt in my mind.

..l

That's what I was thinking. It even seems he indirectly admitted as much.

298 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:35:26pm

re: #296 Dianna

I'm still trying to talk her into the shockingly expensive (but oh-so beautiful) Damascene steel Ken Onion-designed knife set. Annoyingly, she keeps pointing out that we already have perfectly good knives. Logic sucks.

299 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:38:33pm

re: #298 Occasional Reader

Not in my household! Remember, steel is a religion.

When my Male moved in, that meant that we each had a personal katana. And two sets of knives.

The difference between us? My knives are better, but they never get used because I don't really cook. His knives aren't so hot, but he uses them all the time because he does cook.

300 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:39:21pm

I have to go home and get fed.

Take care, everyone.

301 formercorpsman  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:40:10pm

re: #297 Hard Right

It sure looks that way.

302 Tinker  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:42:14pm

I like the "gotcha" moments when we pin the tail on the moonbats. I don't feel too good about this right now - I always thought of TNR as one of the marginal "loyal opposition" liberal publications - lefty, but not insane and sometimes willing to consider opposing viewpoints. Now it looks like they're suffering from major BDS. It's sad, but what the blogosphere is now doing to TNR is cold, righteous retribution. And now that the military is involved, the UCMJ is going to grind through to its inevitable squashing of this ideologue. Part of me wants to crow about this. Part of me wants to cry that the country has come to this.

But I have another concern - while we're giving this twit his comeuppance, will the Nation article (which I haven't read yet, but I'm about to) that gives voice to self-identified and anti-war Iraq vets cause more damage to the U.S.? While we're wailing away on this dip-stick, shouldn't we be also looking at the Nation article and address those issues? I suspect that the spinmeisters of the left are going to quickly consign Scott Thomas to the yardarm and will shift focus to the Nation article.

303 opnion  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:43:03pm

re: #20 Aladin Sane

re: #15 Dirk Diggler

Irrelevant. The veracity of Thomas' fanciful tales should be the focus of the blogosphere's attention.

Maybe not, but it does open the possibility that his wife was coaching him on what sort of stuff to write.

Thats it.She would know what the focus of his stories should be and how far they thought he could go. Playing with baby parts. Noone in his right mind could believe that. Too far

304 baconeatingkaffir  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:48:47pm

re: #285 Catttt

My wife AKA "She who WILL be obeyed" and I got married it was a spur of the moment thing. We'd already gone to the consulate for me to sort my papers and had plans for a wedding in the early summer. Well, one nice November day.. the 12th to be exact she called me up and asked me what I was doing. I told her I had the day off.. shedid as well. Then she says "Would you like to get married?" and I was like "Why not?!" so, she got her witness and I got mine and ... we went to the city hall and did it. :)
It saved us alot of money,time and anguish I think.

305 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:53:24pm

#302 tinker

I think we are just having fun with this tool for now.
We do not have the resources to check his story that fast.
That is happening from guys with connections in his unit.
The big story is the need for the left to lie and print propaganda to hurt its own country in a time for war.
That is what this is propaganda that supports Iran, AQ, and the other thugs over there.
It shows how biased and poisoned the media is today.

306 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 3:55:40pm

re: #303 opnion

re: #20 Aladin Sane


re: #15 Dirk Diggler

Irrelevant. The veracity of Thomas' fanciful tales should be the focus of the blogosphere's attention.

Maybe not, but it does open the possibility that his wife was coaching him on what sort of stuff to write.

Thats it.She would know what the focus of his stories should be and how far they thought he could go. Playing with baby parts. Noone in his right mind could believe that. Too far

He wanted people to respond with shock, disgust, and then hatred. They did, but not in the way he's planned.

307 baconeatingkaffir  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:02:59pm

I just wonder what kind of punishment awaits bo-chump. I really hope the Army makes an example of him. Of course, the MSM will have sympathy for him, but it would be kind of a fitting tribue if he were to share a cell in leavenworth with the black muslim handgrenade man.
How the heck did a dirtbag and bf'er make it through the training pipeline. I swear if he had been in my flight or my company during basic, he would have gotten a blanket party or GI shower before the end of the first week. I just hope the foreign media doesn't get ahold of it. I get bored with stories talking about the inferiority and attrocities of US soldiers.

308 EEprom  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:09:54pm

This is all too reminiscent of the Jesse Macbeth story, raises all kinds of red flags.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Maybe his stories will check out, kinda doubt it though.

309 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:10:29pm

The reason Foer hired this particular soldier is that he could reliably paint a bad picture of the war.

So the whole " we hired a soldier for a soldiers perspective " bit doesn't tell the story of how the soldiers perspective was veted as "correct" beforehand. As presented, TNR gives the impression that they got a soldier at random.

310 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:18:48pm

So guys, is this the first ever case of sexually-transmitted bullshit?

311 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:20:23pm
312 Tinker  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:29:40pm

#305 hous bin farteen

I know we're getting our jollies here - TNR deserves it because they and their ilk have positioned themselves on Mount Idas as the repositors of accuracy and Truth.

I just printed out the Nation article - it's chock full of ambiguous combat situations (haven't read them all), but some not so ambiguous (the dehumanizing results of exposure to combat - well, duh!). Whether they're true or not (ala Winter Soldier) will wait for another day. But it is grotesquely ugly. Not good.

On the other hand, some of this stuff is either verifiable (and the UCMJ will work its slow but crushing wonders) or BS (at which point the blogosphere can contribute its own wonders).

One thing that hits close to home - some years ago, one Christmas Eve, we entertained some friends. The new boyfriend of one of them was just back from a tour in Iraq. He kept referring to the Iraqis as "hajis", a term which the Nation article plays up very negatively. It bothered me at first (I'm from the Nam War period where the bad guys were usually referred to as "gooks"). But I remembered that to face an enemy, it's tough to kill, bomb, incinerate, dismember someone you call as "brother".

So, in our history, we dehumanized our opponents("slopes, Gerry's, Nips, Huns, [bigoted word]s, Japs, gooks, hajis, Rebs, Lobster-backs, etc.") to make the traumatizing killing of other human beings less traumatic. After pulling a bayonet out of your opponent's guts, and then watching him slowly die, you have to find some defense mechanism to deal with that horrific event. Dehumanization of the enemy does the trick, partly. But only partly. Because after all the dehumanization, we still have Americans rushing a wounded Al-Quada killer to a helicopter to save his life. And we have Americans and Iraqis now fighting side-by-side to kill Al-Qaeda fanatics, Sunni insurgents and Shiite Mahdists. And today, I don't think the Americans think of those Iraqi troops as "hajis" any more.

The Nation article is dated with old cliches - maybe it's time for the blogosphere to slam it.

313 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:30:31pm
314 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:32:43pm
315 wanumba  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:33:14pm

re: #309 karmic_inquisitor
Maybe Reeves is Valerie Plame and Thomas is Wilson and Foer is Tenet.
Since Thomas wrote that he's serving only to "TOTALLY" get field credibility, one wonders what kind of hiring deal was made in advance IF he endured his little stint in the army. One suspects that Thomas's big mistake was that he was too impatient to see his work in print.

Also could explain how such a horribly untalented, grammatically challenged and orthographically ignorant "writer" landed a "diary" gig at a big name like TNR.

316 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:36:36pm
317 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:42:14pm
318 wanumba  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:44:30pm

Jeez, I'm waaaay behind everyone. The Plame parallel is already old news. Sigh.

Who puts their wedding registry on-line? Everything out for the whole world to gossip about or just hoping a bunch of bored, anonymous people contribute?

319 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:44:52pm

re: #315 wanumba

Also could explain how such a horribly untalented, grammatically challenged and orthographically ignorant "writer" landed a "diary" gig at a big name like TNR.

Hey, he just wanted to provide his discreet (sic) view of the war.

Nice job being discreet there, Beauchump.

320 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 4:57:03pm

So the question is does he get The Big Chicken Dinner or Duck Delight? That's a Bad Conduct Discharge (a Misdemeanor equivalent) or a Dishonorable Discharge (Felony equivalent.) My prediction is that they just turn him loose without any paperwork at all.

321 ChenZhen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:18:09pm

Ah, I see. Support the troops, unless they tell me something I don't want to hear. Then, its smear time.

322 Geepers  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:20:16pm

ChenZhen (#321),

Ah, I see. Support the troops, unless they tell me something I don't want to hear. Then, its smear time.

You mean like great big fat lies?

Yeah, some of don't like that. You?

323 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:22:28pm
324 ChenZhen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:22:56pm

re: #322 Geepers

ChenZhen (#321),

Ah, I see. Support the troops, unless they tell me something I don't want to hear. Then, its smear time.

You mean like great big fat lies?

Yeah, some of don't like that. You?

What did he lie about?

/I haven't been following the story too closely

325 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:28:47pm

re: #3 Ben Hur

Really? What's his name?


you beat me to it.

326 Geepers  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:34:59pm

ChenZehn (#324),

/I haven't been following the story too closely

Yet feel you have the right to berate people over their objections to Scott's "poetic license"?

327 hazzyday  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:42:21pm

160,000 troops. That is a good sized city. A certain percentage of them will be bad apples despite all the vetting. Some people cope through it til they see their opportunity to be themselves. That being said 160,000 journalists or 160,000 bloggers would have a much much higher percentage of active criminal elements among them.

The military is where I learned how to swear and where I learned how to take drugs and drink hellaciously.

I do none of the 3 now. It was an overall good experience. You will have some bitter lifers in there. You will have a lot of PFC's and 2lougies that don't have a clue as to what they are doing and will grow up or be weeded out.

But to focus on one Abu Gahrib or one Scott Thomas and project those images as the cornerstone of your perception of the American military is to essentially say that your brain is empty. If you think this way you should also practice your life this way in how you think about yourself.

Rather go read Michael Yon. Get an informed opinion.

In a war you get your hands bloody. It is not always going to be nice and neat and something to write home to mom about.

328 ChenZhen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:42:30pm

re: #326 Geepers

ChenZehn (#324),

/I haven't been following the story too closely

Yet feel you have the right to berate people over their objections to Scott's "poetic license"?

This thread appears to be about his wife/fiancee.

329 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:48:36pm

I guess that Scotty took journalism courses so that he could put together 187 word, barely coherent masterpieces of the terminally ridiculous run-on sentence like this one:

Every morning I get up and say I'm Scott Beauchamp, in the army, living in Germany, and this is my life, and I'm going to be treated like shit today and do landscaping and janitorial work and practice killing people and there could be no other way to appreciate what I had or what I'm going to have once I get out other than enduring this now when all I really want to do is teach history and lay around and read and hustle around and repair the world (tikkun olam) and sift through knowledge and improve culture and learn how to sail and work in soup kitchens and start a family and really, I mean REALLY study the best the western civilization has to offer and facilitiate the mystery and power through everything I do, but I cant do it without getting through this army experience first, which will add a legitimacy to EVERYTHING i do afterwards, and totally bolster my opinions on defense, etc, and of course its making me a lot less lazy, just because im not use to being lazy any more, etc.


I don't know how anybody could like this guy.

I guess these days, if you have a minimal comprehension of the English language, j-school must be a piece of cake.

330 Catttt  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:54:59pm

re: #328 ChenZhen

re: #326 Geepers

ChenZehn (#324),

/I haven't been following the story too closely


Yet feel you have the right to berate people over their objections to Scott's "poetic license"?

This thread appears to be about his wife/fiancee.

All I said about Ms. Reeve is she can do better than this guy (love is blind) and that she's put low-quality, overpriced linen on her registry. These things are important - It's a woman thing - can you dig it?

331 Geepers  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:56:42pm

ChenZehn (#328),

This thread appears to be about his wife/fiancee.

Which is why your first comment on it was:

Ah, I see. Support the troops, unless they tell me something I don't want to hear. Then, its smear time.

So of all the Soldiers in Iraq The National Review just happened to choose the fiancee of a staffer. Small world ain't it?

And as hazzyday pointed out above "Supporting the Troops" has nothing to do with any individual soldier.

332 crankyobjectivist  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 5:59:37pm

So, does anyone have LizardNotes(TM) for this whole thread/incident? I have been traveling for some time and don't check the site regularly, so I have apparently missed much. None of the names or references are familiar.

333 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 6:05:04pm
334 ChenZhen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 6:10:13pm

re: #331 Geepers

ChenZehn (#328),

This thread appears to be about his wife/fiancee.

Which is why your first comment on it was:
Ah, I see. Support the troops, unless they tell me something I don't want to hear. Then, its smear time.

So of all the Soldiers in Iraq The National Review just happened to choose the fiancee of a staffer. Small world ain't it?

And as hazzyday pointed out above "Supporting the Troops" has nothing to do with any individual soldier.

Well it certainly does nothing to prove that he lied about any of his accounts. It's an ad hominem argument.

Anyway, I'll drop it. He could be embellishing. I don't know. I'm not there. But he is, and I guess I would've expected a little more benefit of the doubt on it, but oh well.

What I do think is kinda strange is how all these righty bloggers are spending night and day trying to get to the bottom of the lies and fabrications of an individual soldier in Iraq, while I see nary a post about the lies of the Attorney General of the United States.

/I'm sure this Scott Thomas thing is a much bigger deal though

335 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 6:16:52pm

re: #334 ChenZhen

I see nary a post about the lies of the Attorney General of the United States.

/I'm sure this Scott Thomas thing is a much bigger deal though

Oh, I'll bite.

Yes, it is.

336 Geepers  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 6:19:29pm

buzzsawmonkey (#333),

Thanks. Good to be back.

337 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 7:34:15pm

re: #335 Dar ul Harb

As they say in U.K. Parliament, I'll refer the right honourable gentleman to the answer I gave previously.

338 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 7:36:10pm

Here Chen.
How is this for ignoring the AG?
I will repost it

OT: Meanwhile, back at the ranch.
Or should I say NKVD HQ, Beria (Leahy) and the rest of the Bolsheviks move forward on the next show trial to silence their political enemies.
Enemies of the socialist movement.
[Link: thehill.com...]

Can't wait till they win the Presidency to see if they move on to the next logical step of the movement. (No silly. Not socialized health care and government control of the oil companies (thanks Comrade Hilary!) Wacking each other!

With the murder of Leon Trotsky in 20th August, 1940, all the leading figures involved in the Russian Revolution were dead except for Joseph Stalin. Of the fifteen members of the original Bolshevik government, ten had been executed and four had died (sometimes in mysterious circumstances).

The armed forces suffered at the hands of Beria and the NKVD. It has been estimated that a third of all officers were arrested. Three out of five marshals and fourteen out of sixteen army commanders were executed.


With the liberals hatred of the military, hmmm.........
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
[Link: [Link: www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk...]...]

Notice pic. Looks like Beria couldn't be all bad. He likes kids!

339 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 7:41:01pm

More Chen

OT: More on the NKVD going after the Bush Admin.


FBI Director Contradicts Gonzales
[Link: [Link: www.breitbart.com...]...]

FBI Director Robert S. Mueller said Thursday the government's terrorist surveillance program was the topic of a 2004 hospital room dispute between top Bush administration officials, contradicting Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' sworn Senate testimony.
Mueller was not in the hospital room at the time of the dramatic March 10, 2004, confrontation between then-Attorney General John Ashcroft and presidential advisers Andy Card and Gonzales, who was then serving as White House counsel. Mueller told the House Judiciary Committee he arrived shortly after they left, and spoke with the ailing Ashcroft.

So they are taking "testimony" from I guy who was not even there when the conversation took place over the guy who was.

No show trial here Comrades.

Democrats Urge Perjury Probe of Gonzales

Senate Democrats called for a perjury investigation against Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on Thursday and subpoenaed top presidential aide Karl Rove in a deepening political and legal clash with the Bush administration.
"It has become apparent that the attorney general has provided at a minimum half-truths and misleading statements," four Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee wrote in a letter to Solicitor General Paul Clement.
[Link: [Link: www.breitbart.com...]...]

Democrats issued a laundry list of examples of what one called Gonzales' "lying" before Congress.

"We have now reached a point where the accumulated evidence shows that political considerations factored into the unprecedented firing of at least nine United States attorneys last year," said Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Unprecedented firing? That is a bold face lie from that slime ball.
Ever heard of Clinton, you Bolshevik hack?

The Republicans better get their game on to defeat these evil bastards, if for no other reason than to save their hides. This could not be any clearer that the Dems Bolsheviks are out to criminalize politics. If you disagree with them or oppose them, you are going to jail.

So Chen, you have no problem with the court system being used to go after your political enemies?
But we get called fascists?
This stinks of old style Bolshevik/Stalinst behavior.
But it it is okay with you Comrade Chen?
Your bullshit is getting old

340 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 7:44:40pm

Chen


Well it certainly does nothing to prove that he lied about any of his accounts. It's an ad hominem argument.

But taking the word of someone who was not there as fact over someone who was there, and then calling for perjury charges is okay?

Let me repeat that: Mueller was not in the hospital room at the time of the dramatic March 10, 2004,

Your a joke Chen.

341 NamDoc67  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 7:48:59pm

Let's see - where have I heard this story before?
Yuppie narcissist dimwit joins military in order to get some cred for his anti-American, anti-military slant on things, and to aggrandize his own self-centered dreams of future fame and glory in the public sphere? Well placed friends in the liberal ether see an opportunity to use him for their own ends, while helping him fulfill his dreams. A win-win for all - except America of course.

342 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 8:17:13pm

Chen:

While checking out your “independent” blog, I came across this little ditty.
Busting on Krystal

According to Federal Election Commission figures tabulated by a diarist on Daily Kos, the Q2 donations made my active-duty troops to presidential campaigns breaks down like this:
Anti-war:
Ron Paul 26.23%
Barack Obama 24.02%
Hillary Clinton 11.08%
Bill Richardson 5.59%
John Edwards 2.63%
Joe Biden 0.84%
Mike Gravel 0.16%
Dennis Kucinich 0.05%
Chris Dodd 0%
Pro-war:
John McCain 18.31%
Mitt Romney 4.05%
Rudy Giuliani 2.44%
Mike Huckabee 1.84%
Tom Tancredo 1.63%
Duncan Hunter 1.05%
Sam Brownback 0.07%
Tommy Thompson 0%
Jim Gilmore 0%
John Cox 0%
In other words, 70.6% to anti-war candidates vs. 29.4% for pro-war candidates (although I’m not sure if it’s fair to lump candidates like Brownback or Biden into opposite camps, seeing as they seem to be advocating a similar way forward in Iraq, but you get the idea).

Did you actually check the FEC numbers?
Or just parrot the KOS diarist.
How much did the active duty troops give Ron Paul? A total of $12,475. Active duty AND retired. That is a stunning amount of support there, isn’t it. $12,000. Ron Paul could buy 1/3 of a Prius with that.

343 wanumba  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 8:28:32pm

#324 CHenZen
"What did he lie about?
/I haven't been following the story too closely"

Why don't you read all of Scott's lovely prose and declarations of his intentions AND THEN get back and comment.
Where to start - the Germans and the skulls?
The melted half-face?
The girlfriend, maybe wife? or fiancee in homebase TNR itself?
The astoundingly resiliant and ubiquitous Sgt LeClaire ...?
The truly awful, abysmal, cringe-inducing writing?

The no chance in hell this guy Thomas would have landed a "wordsmithing" job with TNR based on his ability with a comma or a CAPS, excepting perhaps his willingness to deliver the perfect Hard Left stereotype of psychotic US soldiers.

344 Fernandez  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 8:29:51pm

Any news from Jellobob? He was supposed to report back with my medical and/or military records?

Shucks...

345 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 8:49:21pm

re: #321 ChenZhen

Read the "diary". Apply common sense (hint: look at normal mutts, think about how rotten meat smells, etc., you know, civilian stuff), and then apologize.

346 Dianna  Thu, Jul 26, 2007 8:56:57pm

re: #338 hous bin pharteen

Sorry, Beria was brought it later.

You want Yezhov. The Russians called it the yezhovschina.


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