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Now CAIR Is Going After Video Games

Wed, Aug 1, 2007 at 3:25:03 pm PDT

Yes, that’s right. And the game manufacturer caved. Islamic Phrase Removed from Capcom’s Zack & Wiki.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) announced today that the phrase “Allahu akbar” will be removed from the upcoming Capcom game, Zack & Wiki. Meaning “God is most Great” it is a common prayer in Islam. Capcom had apparently received complaints over the inclusion of the phrase from other parties as well.

“We have already contacted the team working on the game, and the phrase has been removed from the game and will not be heard in future videos released to the public,” said a Capcom spokesperson to CAIR.

“We appreciated Capcom’s willingness to address Muslim concerns and applaud the company’s swift and appropriate actions,” said CAIR Communications Coordinator Amina Rubin.

(Via Go Nintendo and Hot Air.)

UPDATE at 8/1/07 3:30:16 pm:

Video of the game, including the horrible hate speech. Expect this to be deleted soon.

Youtube Video

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1 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:26:45pm

Islamidation works.

2 M. Bensson-Levi  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:27:29pm

Dum Da Dum Dum. Dum Da Dum Dum Dum!

3 M. Bensson-Levi  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:27:46pm

Rats!

4 Abu Bin Squid  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:27:50pm

“We appreciated Capcom’s willingness to address Muslim concerns and applaud the company’s swift and appropriate actions cave in,” said CAIR Communications Coordinator Amina Rubin.

5 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:28:06pm

Is cair trying to say allah isn't great?

I call islamophobia on cair.

6 Andy Dufresne  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:28:28pm

Kind of symbolic of how weak these companies are to capitulate to the CAIR rats.

7 Fjordman  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:28:41pm

OK? Then why not remove any material containing that phrase, starting with the Koran.

8 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:28:42pm

Setting their sights lower?

9 Resistance Girl  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:29:19pm

CAIR is on a many faceted offensive.

I wonder how many hours a day they have people trawling the internet, searching everywhere in the country to come up with the smallest pretense to launch the next lawsuit.

10 EC Marm  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:29:32pm
Capcom had apparently received complaints over the inclusion of the phrase from other parties as well.

I'll bet. One of those ALL CAPS death threatening emails where the reader is invited to 'revert to islam'. I've gotten a couple. Been able to politely decline, so far.

11 Black George Bush  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:29:39pm

Im a hardcore gamer, and I take great pride in playing Insurgency. There's plenty of “Allahu akbar” in this game. Check if out you lizard gamers.

12 looking closely  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:29:42pm

Hey CAIR, whatcha going to do about THIS?

13 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:29:43pm

I wonder why the game characters were saying allahu ackbar?

14 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:29:55pm
15 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:30:06pm

You never once heard a German complain over any cries of mine liben in wolfinstine or for being portrayed as nazis in every WWII game ever made.

Capcom should have stated that they were actually saying "Aloha Snack Bar".

16 Shug  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:30:11pm

Will CAIR ask headchoppers to stop saying it as well?

17 NoSubmission  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:30:38pm

I know nothing about video games. But what was the context in which 'allahu akbar' was mentioned?

18 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:30:48pm
We appreciated Capcom’s willingness to address Muslim concerns and applaud the company’s swift and appropriate actions,” said CAIR Communications Coordinator Amina Rubin.

Islam means submit...you just did.

19 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:31:20pm

Zach & Wiki doesnt sound like some hardcore war game

20 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:31:47pm

re: #13 Haint

Zack & Wiki is a cartoon-ish adventure title focusing on finding pirate treasure

Barbary pirate treasure?

21 Charles  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:32:20pm

re: #8 Ward Cleaver

Setting their sights lower?

Video games are not low-hanging fruit. This is a multi-billion dollar industry, with profits bigger than the film industry. Capcom is a huge company.

This is not a small thing that they caved in.

22 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:32:40pm

Ahoy, mee hardees, the context is on the horizon!

23 Paul  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:32:58pm

It's impressive what complaints (and the threat of a lawsuit) will do to bring a business around to your point of view.

24 Mich-again  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:33:00pm

So what about footage of hangings in Iran where the crowds stand around and shout Allah Akbar while the crane operator /executioner lifts the victims to their death. I suppose they will have to censor out the voices of people in the crowd now too.

25 bosforus  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:34:02pm
“We appreciated [enter company you've just intimidated here] willingness to address Muslim concerns and applaud the company’s swift and appropriate actions,”

Do they have some kind of a form letter that they get these statements from?

26 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:34:24pm

How exactly did CAIR learn of this? What is this game about that it would include the phrase in the first place? The game isn't being released until October, so does this mean that someone got their hands on this in beta testing and sent it on to CAIR to send out the letters?

Lots of questions here, but ponder this - where is this headed?

What will CAIR demand of Hollywood and the entertainment industry going forward? Will they demand that the movies True Lies or Executive Decision are never viewed again - pulled from DVD catalogs and never played on cable or broadcast ever again? Is that where this is headed?

Any movie that even tangentially casts Islam in a bad light will have to pass muster with the thought police at CAIR? Sorry, but that goes against the principle of free speech (note that free speech is separate from the 1st Amendment, which prevents government restriction on speech). It also shows that the Hollywood types and entertainment industry is way too susceptible to intimidation by these guys.

27 new_tommy  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:34:35pm

Allahu Akbar!

28 M. Bensson-Levi  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:34:39pm

What about the caving in of the Producers/Studio that brought Tom Clancy's "Sum of All Fears" to the screen? In the book, Clancy's villains are muslim jihadi, on the screen they're German neo- Nazis (rather than islamo- neo- Nazis).

A sad, recurring pattern of recent history.

Either venality, or cowardice...or both.

29 infidelterrorist  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:34:47pm

Next thing you know, you're going to have to type it Allahu Akbar™, with a disclaimer at the end: "Allahu Akbar™ is a registered trademark of Islam."

30 amphibian  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:35:04pm

OT.

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Repulsive. Not unexpected, but repulsive nevertheless.

31 looking closely  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:35:09pm

This one is an internet classic.

Bin Laden Liquors.

Check out the Glock (and the Slurpee!).

32 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:35:30pm

Its my first time posting with this new fangled Ajax stuff and I have to say I like it...if you keep whacking the new comments button regularly, you can work it like a chat room

33 Resistance Girl  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:36:15pm

CAIR appreciates "swift and appropriate" capitulation.

It makes things so much easier for them and then they can be on to the next target.

34 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:36:16pm

Push, push, push.

35 Hening  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:36:17pm

Wait until the new version of Medal of Honor comes out with the Piss Koran level.

36 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:36:18pm

next, figuring out the fancy buttons

37 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:36:26pm

re: #26 lawhawk

Imagine if cair had been around when they made the film Not Without My Daughter.

And I'll go out on a limb here and say we'll never see a studio produce a film on the life of mohammed.

38 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:36:51pm

The gaming industry is close to exceeding the music industry worldwide - it's a 30-35 billion dollar industry.

39 Sizzlack  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:37:02pm

well thats just the most bizarre video game Ive ever seen


Ahhhlllu Wackbar
what on earth is this game supposed to be?

40 bulwrk  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:37:11pm

The little bald headed freak does resemble Ibrahim Hopper.

41 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:37:17pm

They are winning quite a few battles with CAIR...they lose some...but win more.

42 Mich-again  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:37:33pm

A mushroom a day keeps the Koopas away.

43 bulwrk  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:38:04pm

re: #39 Sizzlack

You must not have teenagers

44 bosforus  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:38:05pm

why doesn't CAIR sue some terrorist organization for using the phrase when they blow people up? to keep their funding?

45 NoSubmission  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:38:08pm

Just watched the clip. Why on earth do they think this is important?

CAIR has way too much time on their hands meddling with the interests of the United States of America.

46 jemima  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:38:27pm

What does this have to do with muslims? Games/smiling/singing/laughing are all haram. They should be banging their foreheads on the floor to prove how pious they are, not wasting their time with infidel pleasures (to include strip clubs, lap dances and computer gaming).

Of course if it was a flight simulator, that I could understand.

47 Catttt  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:38:38pm

I'm assuming the bad guys are Barbary pirates, and they were, as everyone knows, Muslim bada**es. Why wouldn't they say Allah Akbar?

The thing is, this is a baby game. The gamers won't know the difference.

Still, it is another brick out of the wall. What I really hate though is the eternal, day after day GLOATING of CAIR over every little brick, followed by their eternal, day after day WHINING about some "insult."

You know those movie scenes where someone fantasizes stuffing, say, rags in someone annoying person's mouth, and having them go "mmm! MMM!" when they try to talk? I'm fantasizing that about CAIR.

48 looking closely  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:38:52pm

re: #41 storagemanager

Its not much of a "battle" when you send one strongly worded letter and the recipient caves.

49 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:38:53pm

TAKFIR!

51 mrfocus  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:39:26pm

Allen Yakbar

52 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:39:37pm
53 Sizzlack  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:39:50pm

re: #43 bulwrk

re: #39 Sizzlack

You must not have teenagers

def do not...I myself am in my 20's, only video game I play is Madden '0whatever the current year is. That is one of the strangest looking games Ive ever seen. And what does Allah have to do with the game? Did they just think it sounded nice?

54 NoSubmission  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:39:50pm

So if I create a blog called 'allahu akbar' will they sue me?

55 ex cathedra  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:39:51pm

"Amina Rubin"? What kind of name is that? Amina is muslim. Rubin is Jewish.

56 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:40:07pm

re: #48 looking closely

re: #41 storagemanager

Its not much of a "battle" when you send one strongly worded letter and the recipient caves.

Sad...isn't it?

57 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:40:11pm

If the game has a Barbary Pirates rich theme, they should put in an animation of Jefferson ordering the Navy over there to set things to rights...a lilhistoricalvalue for the chillin'

58 Resistance Girl  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:40:30pm

re: #45 NoSubmission

Just watched the clip. Why on earth do they think this is important?

CAIR has way too much time on their hands meddling with the interests of the United States of America.

They must have a fairly large group investigating any entity they can attack or sue.

59 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:40:36pm

I would be interested in knowing the Islamic reason why the term Allah Ackbar shouldn't be allowed into a video game.

This might be legit.

60 pegcity  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:41:14pm

Kakuto Chojin was banned for Xbox because it had a line of the koran at the end of one of the characters stories if you beat the game with him, this was way back in 01.

61 Sizzlack  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:41:38pm

re: #52 buzzsawmonkey

please tell me youre kidding...it was bad enough what they did to ET...but to go back to really legit vintage movies and alter some dead guys work is beyond comprehension to me. I grew up around cig smokers...I dont smoke cigs...its not hard to have some sort of will power.

62 Ojoe  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:42:00pm

rabka uhalla

63 Angel  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:42:14pm

Who the heck owns Capcom.

why not write to them and tell them how disappointed we are...

and furthermore what about all the violent vid games about rape and pillage and car theft...CA_IR got no probs with that huh...o right...they dont mention AA so its all cool...
pfftt!

64 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:42:34pm

re: #37 Sharmuta

And we'll never see mohammed: the video game.

/Navigate mohammed through the hijra; defend medina; conquer mecca; defeat the Qurayzah, Quraysh & Qaynuka tribes; and numerous raids with booty galore.

65 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:42:52pm
66 Ojoe  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:43:08pm

em eus

67 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:43:13pm

On second thought...this story is pretty funny...

Because if CAIR was instead arguing that the term should actually be put in or left in...

Many (if not most) of the posters here on LGF would be commenting that it was dhimmihood and forcing prosletising of Islam on kids.

Sometimes it is just confusing around here.

68 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:43:28pm

In case anyone wondered what "Wii" stands for in Nintendo Wii, it is:

Waziristan
Is
Impenetrable

/Thought you should know

69 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:43:37pm

I wonder if you can still watch the old Bug Bunny/Daffy Duck feature with the cave full of gold and the bumbling cave guard Hassan, of "Hassan Chop!" fame?...not for long I warrant, if its not down the memory hole already

70 amphibian  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:43:40pm

re: #26 lawhawk

It also shows that the Hollywood types and entertainment industry is way too susceptible to intimidation by these guys.

These guys are in business to make money. I don't think that many of them have principles that are distinct from their bottom line. Hence, not surprising that they would prefer to give in when threatened.

71 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:44:15pm

re: #37 Sharmuta


You like a sure bet dont you.

72 Sizzlack  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:44:22pm

re: #65 song_and_dance_man

If any may remember in the the Disney movie Aladdin one hears the Sultan say, praise Allah. I guess this is ok for them. It disturbed me to hear it in a Disney cartoon feature. If the Sultan had a bomb on his head I may have approved.

Aladdin came out before groups like CAIR would bitch and moan about something like this...back when the world was slightly more normal. Must be grandfathered in.

73 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:44:34pm

re: #31 looking closely

This one is an internet classic.

Bin Laden Liquors.

Check out the Glock (and the Slurpee!).


I scored 55,000 my first time.

74 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:44:41pm

WOW. CAIR sure has been busy lately! And Saudi Arabia's been paying for a lot of lawyers' vacation homes in Costa Rico.

/so...what do I do? get a law degree or go into real estate?

75 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:45:04pm

re: #64 Sharmuta

...and chop off the heads of all the males in three huge Jewish communities...

76 mrfocus  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:45:14pm

re: #45 NoSubmission

Just watched the clip. Why on earth do they think this is important?

CAIR has way too much time on their hands meddling with the interests of the United States of America.


CAIR is just softening up the territory for Islamic conquest.

77 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:46:23pm

Seriously...COME ON NOW...

If CAIR were instead arguing that the term should actually be put in or left in...

Many (if not most) of the posters here on LGF would be commenting that it was dhimmihood and forcing prosletising of Islam on kids.

Sometimes it is just confusing around here.

78 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:46:27pm

re: #67 WrathofG-d

On second thought...this story is pretty funny...

Because if CAIR was instead arguing that the term should actually be put in or left in...

Many (if not most) of the posters here on LGF would be commenting that it was dhimmihood and forcing prosletising of Islam on kids.

Sometimes it is just confusing around here.

The fact that they demand and get...is the problem.

79 dentate  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:46:27pm

My son is on the team designing the World of Warcraft interface. This industry currently makes more money than the movie industry, from online membership fees. Charles is right, it is big, it is popular, and it is influential with the young. In the excerpt Charles provided, it isn't clear that the Allahu Akbar added anything really worthwhile to this game and therefore it is not surprising to me that Capcom made an economic decision. I think it would be quite different if this were a game involving realistic characters in a context that is specifically Islamic. Interesting that there are not more video games of that sort, isn't it?

80 IceViking  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:46:40pm

OT:

Jan Milld is a Holocaust-denier (2nd update)
The Swedish magazine Blagula Fragor (roughly translated as "Blueyellow Questions", probably because the Swedish flag is blue and yellow), or BGF for short, writes on their website that "The prime mover within BGF is Jan Milld which is the editor of the magazine and the website and Anders Sundholm which is the association`s chairman." In Swedish: "Drivande inom BGF ar Jan Milld, som ar redaktor for tidskriften och webbsidan, och Anders Sundholm, som ar foreningens ordforande." The magazine and Milld is well-respected and well-known in circles of legitimate immigration critics. It is my belief that these legitimate immigration critics like the essayist Fjordman, the Swedish political party Sverigedemokraterna, the Danish organisation Trykkefrihedsselskabet and the blogger Snaphanen, were honestly misled into believeing that Milld was someone else than he really was.

Read the rest here:

[Link: icevikings.blogspot.com...]

81 Pdogg  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:47:19pm

Lol. They're drinking soup from human skulls and all they complained about was “Allahu akbar.”

82 Highrise  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:47:36pm

re: #63 Angel

No kidding. It says alot when one of the most popular games is grand theft auto and I hear another one is on the horizon that I don't know much about called 25 to life.

83 Idle Drifter  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:47:55pm

re: #11 Black George Bush

Are they going after Call of Duty 4 next which is going to take place in a fictional modern Middle Eastern War? Battle Field 2? Dune? Star Wars (Sand People)?

I like my video games the way they are, CAIR-free!

84 bulwrk  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:47:55pm

re: #69 Haint


It's gone,looked for it once no luck.

85 Render  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:48:37pm

[Link: www.insurgencymod.net...]

I wonder why they choose CAPCOM and not Valve, (makers of the above game).

DEEPER
POCKETS?,
R

86 zombie  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:48:49pm

Michael Savage just spent 10 minutes on the Koran-in-toilet story. Woo-hoo!

Unlike O'Reilly, he was on the correct side, and REALLY called CAIR out on the issue.

87 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:48:52pm

re: #78 storagemanager

Well wait though...the system can't be continuously broken just because CAIR is getting their way.

Although I'm not a fan of CAIR, everything they do can't be all bad.

I would instead start with the question about what they are asking for...then from there I'd figure out if justice was being served or if it was intimidation.

On this item I'm just confused. I don't see why the Allah (lo) Ackbar was even in the game.

88 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:48:53pm

After watching the video I'm not sure what cair was thinking here. It didn't seem offensive at all, and if anything it seemed to be promoting "allah ackbar" and not insulting in the least. So, I'd like to thank cair for making sure kids aren't exposed to this.

Unless cair just wanted to see what kind(s) of capitulations they could walk away with.

89 ex cathedra  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:49:05pm

It looks like CAIR is out of control. We need to send a spy to infiltrate them. Somebody who speaks fluent arabic and is intelligent enough to rise in the organization so that he could be in the position to expose all their shady dealings and ties with terrorism.

90 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:49:19pm
91 Eowyn2  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:49:36pm

re: #65 song_and_dance_man

Aladin was kinda weird.

The Sultan (saying "Praise Allah") would imply Muslim.
The daughter Jasmine dressed in Indian/Hindu garb -appropriate for the zenena (sp) quarters.

Perhaps the sultan should have said "honor Shiva" or one of the other Hindu gods.

But I really really liked that blue guy:)

92 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:49:40pm
93 bosforus  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:49:42pm

re: #69 Haint

got $2950?

94 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:50:00pm

If we don't watch ourselves, our entire history is liable to melt away...after all, it isnt fair to the losers, dont ya kno

95 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:50:18pm

Ok, um...WTF! Not thinking about everything else in this story, but how does one of Lucy's slogans fit in with this particular game? A desert storm type shooter I understand, but this? WTF!

96 looking closely  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:50:26pm

#67 Wrath of God.

I suppose the point is that video game designers should be free of outside pressure.

I just watched the video clip and I can't, for the life of me, figure out what the background phrase "Allahu Ackbar" has to do with the game that's going on in the foreground.

I honestly don't see removing it as any kind of big capitulation to anyone. Its neither a big "win" for CAIR, nor is it a big loss to CAPCOM.

97 Sizzlack  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:50:58pm

re: #90 buzzsawmonkey

They edited the guns out the police/federal agents hands and replaced them with walkie talkies when they are trying to get ET out of the house...right before the bike part if memory serves me right.

98 Paul  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:51:04pm

CAIR is right on this one; "allahu akbar" is a sacred prayer to be uttered only at beheadings and car-bomb detonations.

99 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:52:36pm
100 Mike C.  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:52:40pm

Tempest in a teapot.

101 amphibian  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:52:56pm

re: #69 Haint

I wonder if you can still watch the old Bug Bunny/Daffy Duck feature with the cave full of gold and the bumbling cave guard Hassan, of "Hassan Chop!" fame?...not for long I warrant, if its not down the memory hole already

Hehe. I remember it. It used to be a lot funnier before a bunch of real-life Hassans started chopping the heads off people.

Thing about old Warner Brothers cartoons: confidence. We did not need to apologize for fighting against Hitler or Tojo in the wartime cartoons, and if Bugs Bunny happened to encounter an A-rab (played by Yosemite Sam), he didn't have to bow down and pay jizya. Those times are still in living memory! Whatever happened to my civilization?

102 Highrise  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:53:04pm

re: #87 WrathofG-d

Although I'm not a fan of CAIR, everything they do can't be all bad.

wha?

That is like saying with all that we know about cair that terrorists are dads too so there is something good about them..even if it's a morsel!

103 littleoldlady  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:53:28pm

re: #92 ploome hineni

ploomie! :-) How's by you?

CAIR's shenanigans are keeping Charles so busy I don't think he's said unindicted co-conspirators even once today!

104 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:53:46pm

CAIR needs to sit down an watch a good edition of the Disney version of Aladdin. I may have to make my own version and send it to them special delivery...might make one of Sinbad one too and have Ibrahim dressed up with the curly pointed shoes and fluffy bonnet. Shazzam!

Buzzing prayer rugs unite!

105 Sizzlack  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:54:12pm

re: #99 buzzsawmonkey

thanks for that...I was unaware...and am slightly shocked
these people need to find better things to do with their time
that part about the song is too funny btw

106 samhein  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:54:34pm

What DOESN'T offend these people? Except for maybe a beheadding or human bomb. Oh, and let's not forget the real family actvity of a good old fashioned honour killing.

107 Jheka  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:54:57pm

All hail the snackbar!

So, how do you say "not really" in Arabic?

I feel akbar!

Naruto feels akbar!

108 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:55:30pm

re: #96 looking closely

I'm with you on this one.

I also feel strongly that if it were the opposite CAIR was asking for...many on LGF would be against it.

A form of CAIR-DS.

109 Highrise  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:55:41pm

88 Sharmuta 8/01/2007 3:48:53 pm PDT reply quote

Unless cair just wanted to see what kind(s) of capitulations they could walk away with.

I was thinking along the lines of they were looking for deep pockets to pilfer through as well as setting a precendent of going after future games and thier content that deal with jihadists. Baby steps..baby steps...

110 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:55:51pm

#101 amphibian

I think the old culture is still there, just encrusted with PC stupidity...the bad thing is that it'll probably take a mighty strike of the hammer to make that barnacle come off

111 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:55:54pm

re: #65 song_and_dance_man

If any may remember in the the Disney movie Aladdin one hears the Sultan say, praise Allah. I guess this is ok for them. It disturbed me to hear it in a Disney cartoon feature. If the Sultan had a bomb on his head I may have approved.

The interesting thing about Aladdin is it was altered from the original when released on video (not sure if it was cair, but I wouldn't be surprised).

In the opening number to the movie, the song Arabian Nights, there was a line about chopping off hands. For the video release that line was replaced.

112 Piglet-U93  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:55:54pm

“Allahu akbar” will not be removed in announcements made immediately prior to an Islamic Terrorist (apologies for being redundant) attack.

Mo... (pig bacon upon him), broadcasting from station WZHEL

113 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:56:16pm

buzzsawmonkey beat me to it.

114 daledog  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:57:21pm

What kind of drugs were the creators of this video game on? No wonder some kids are so messed up.

115 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:57:24pm

re: #102 Highrise


What I am saying is that the actual instance at issue should be considered.

I'm not saying CAIR as an org is good...I'm saying that everything they do can't be bad.

If you wish to have a thread about how CAIR sucks in general...I'm all for it...& agree.

but I feel strongly that if CAIR were instead trying to get the phrase put INTO the video game...we would instead be against it.

116 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:57:32pm

ah, now I see the reply doohickey

117 Sizzlack  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:57:32pm

CAIR did all of us a favor...I wouldnt want my little kid playing this game running around screaming Allahu Akbar!

118 new2thezoo  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:57:38pm

What next... Ice Cream?
They are mirroring the tactics they have been using in Britain over the last few years. Now they are starting it here. Soon they will be litigating against Farmer John Bacon, removing stories about pigs in children's stories at school, having separate swimming pools for women, etc. etc. It must stop now or this will just be the start.

Softening up the prize pig for Sharia.

119 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:57:41pm
120 MacGregor  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:58:11pm

I wonder if they say it in this game?

121 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:58:42pm
122 Black George Bush  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:59:01pm

re: #84 bulwrk

re: #85 Render

Well now, we cant very well have art intimidating life, now can we?

123 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:59:14pm

re: #120 MacGregor

The link you sent actually states that YES they do.

Takfir...ALLAH (lo) ACKBAR!

124 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:59:28pm

re: #87 WrathofG-d

re: #78 storagemanager

Well wait though...the system can't be continuously broken just because CAIR is getting their way.

Although I'm not a fan of CAIR, everything they do can't be all bad.

I would instead start with the question about what they are asking for...then from there I'd figure out if justice was being served or if it was intimidation.

On this item I'm just confused. I don't see why the Allah (lo) Ackbar was even in the game.

They go after anything...then they get the msm to cover the victory...I don't think they care about the stuff they attack...they just want air time...they want to win hearts and minds...thats the game.

125 Maui Girl  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 3:59:54pm

The video game looks boring and lame, IMHO. You can barely make out the Allahu (hooohooo) Ackbar anyway. Bad audio.

126 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:00:08pm

re: #109 Highrise

I think it's all about setting precedents. Each one they achieve being another step down the road to shari'a.

127 MacGregor  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:00:12pm

re: #123 WrathofG-d

...and the noobs use "allah mode"

128 Highrise  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:00:37pm

re: #115 WrathofG-d

but I feel strongly that if CAIR were instead trying to get the phrase put INTO the video game...we would instead be against it.

It's wise to speak for yourself maybe on this one. You don't speak for me on LGF. I pretty much outlined how I see it in my 109.

Oh and once fruit is rotten, it's thrown in the trash, even if it has the capacity to look like it might have one bite worth saving.

129 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:00:52pm

looks like Fox has a new bone to gnaw

if it bleeds it leads

130 bosforus  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:01:41pm

re: #124 storagemanager

yeah, but the even the average MSM follower can't keep up with CAIR. but then again, the average MSM follower just needs to hear 'civil rights group' and they've heard enough.

131 bulwrk  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:01:59pm

They were for allah akbar before they were against it.

132 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:02:03pm

re: #115 WrathofG-d

We ought to chip in and make a Mohammud cartoon with bomb cap. I'll bet if we had some good animators here, I could write a script that would have CAIR speaking in tongues when they were done viewing it.

133 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:02:06pm

re: #75 Ma Sands

Yes- can't forget the slaughters. They could be bonus levels.

134 Mich-again  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:02:07pm

Great lyrics from a song in Alladin.. I'll dedicate it to CAIR's Ibe the Hooper

So Ali turns out to be merely Aladdin
Just a con, need I go on?
Take it from me
His personality flaws
Give me adequate cause
To send him packing on a one-way trip
So his prospects take a terminal dip
His assets frozen, the venue chosen
Is the ends of the earth - whoopee!
So long, ex-Prince Ali!
135 Highrise  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:02:17pm

re: #126 Sharmuta


I tell you Sharmuta, the blindness is just crazy.

I keep telling myself that good is bad and bad is good...and those are the times we are living in. People are so easily snowed it is hard to watch the process of it being done sometimes...even to people who I never expected would be.

136 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:02:29pm

re: #127 MacGregor


That video game does point out a bit of serious hypocracy on the part of CAIR!

137 EE  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:02:43pm

re: #98 Paul

CAIR is right on this one; "allahu akbar" is a sacred prayer to be uttered only at beheadings and car-bomb detonations.

You are on to something there.

The objection is not to the violence that accompanies the phrase allahu akbar, but to who says it and for what cause. There is plenty of violence associated with the phrase, when jihadi terrorists use it. But CAIR apparently doesn't have a problem with that. Their reaction is one of total silence when jihadi terrorists say allahu akbar to accompany their massacres.

Can you imagine the outcry that would result if bullets and bombs and similar things had the words "allahu akbar" written on them when they were directed at jihadi terrorists? It would imply that Allah was not on the side of the jihadi terrorists, and that would very much annoy CAIR.

138 Fasternu426  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:03:54pm

Tell these guys to stop what they're doing!

I love Stuck Mojo!

139 ornery elephant  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:04:17pm

What can legally be done to see that C.A.I.R. is removed from the landscape of America?

140 MacGregor  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:04:34pm

re: #136 WrathofG-d

Yep - Big hypocricy.

141 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:04:55pm

re: #139 ornery elephant

What can legally be done to see that C.A.I.R. is removed from the landscape of America?


Nothing...unless they break a law.

142 Jheka  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:05:03pm

re: #108 WrathofG-d

That's not CAIR-DS. It doesn't matter whether they are trying to add or remove their favorite phrases, images, ideas, etc. into or out of popular Western culture ... it's that they're constantly trying to mold popular Western culture to make it more hospitable to the islamist society that they hope to create. It's like the aliens of many popular movies & books who slowly change Earth's atmosphere to hake it hospitable to their species. It's also a way to condition Westerners to not talk about or reference Islamist ideas/images/phraseology without the sanction of outfits like CAIR ... makes stifling criticism and discussion a whole lot easier.

We've seen the same thing in other contexts.

143 mrfocus  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:05:06pm

re: #100 Mike C.

Tempest in a teapot.

If CAIR takes every opportunity to make a federal case of behavior CAIR dislikes then it does not look good for freedom of speech. Just ask Robert Spencer. Or the the "John Does" who pointed out the flying Imans. LAWfare is also a strategy in building the Caliphate.

144 Catttt  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:05:35pm

All this censorship crap is making me more and more iconoclastic.

I hate censorship. When I was a kid, my parents let me read and watch what I wanted, because they taught me how to reason and use my fricking brain!

It makes me want to do things like send a singing telegram to CAIR's headquarters with a medley of songs by - oh, say Marilyn Manson, Cradle of Filth, Eminem, and and knew shockas - with a chorus of Allah Akbars - and whatever else would curl their toes.

Humpf.

145 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:05:56pm

re: #140 MacGregor

Its funny...I've always wanted to go to an Anti-Israel rally, or Islamist event...and just keep screaming...TAKFIRRR!

(make them say Allah Ackbar over & over again...disrupt the speech...)

146 NiceLass  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:06:08pm
“We appreciated Capcom’s willingness to address Muslim concerns and applaud the company’s swift and appropriate actions,”

I don't applaud or appreciate it.

Got news for ya, CAIR. My 14 year old watched you make a fool out of yourself on CNN last night. He was not impressed with your demeanor or your message. He's also a big Nintendo fan, he's written letters to Nintendo about their games before and I'm thinking he'll do it again for this latest bit of stupidity.

Your antics have given me plenty of opportunity to teach him all about FREE SPEECH and how very precious it really is.

You're not scoring any points, CAIR.

147 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:06:18pm

The sad truth is that we have no one to blame for CAIRs new method of intimidation but ourselves

We allowed the Victimization Culture to grow and flourish because it made us, as Americans, feel so much better about what our ancestors had done
to get us to the society we live in now.

Now though, we get to pay the piper, or should I say, muezzin

148 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:06:18pm

re: #115 WrathofG-d

but I feel strongly that if CAIR were instead trying to get the phrase put INTO the video game...we would instead be against it.

I am against this phrase being in the game, and I even thanked cair for getting it removed. My problem with cair here is they intimidated another company to their will. That's not good. If the company had removed it on their own- that would be fine. But this was forced by cair. How do muslims view capitulation to their demands?

149 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:06:29pm

re: #138 Fasternu426

Word.

I pretty much have this one on a constant loop.

150 Idle Drifter  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:07:03pm

Too bad for CAIR Hitman 2 has been out for a couple years and there's a level Agent 47 must take out a Sultan with a Barrett M95! The Sultan rides in an armored limo within a UN convoy. In Hitman: Blood Money at a Casino in Las Vegas, there's a Sheik trying to buy a biological weapon from a South African White Supremacist. The targets are the Sheik, the Sheik's Doctor, and the Supremacist. So I guess even the Anti-Hero Agent 47 will be call an Islamophobe now.

151 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:07:04pm

re: #142 Jheka

I guess you could be right.

Its funny how the Muslims are actually doing what everyone wrongfully blamed the Jews for doing.

At every step Muslims just really want to be Jews.

152 Fasternu426  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:07:19pm

I thought I heard them say Not My Slot Car

153 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:07:54pm

re: #148 Sharmuta

re: #115 WrathofG-d


but I feel strongly that if CAIR were instead trying to get the phrase put INTO the video game...we would instead be against it.

I am against this phrase being in the game, and I even thanked cair for getting it removed. My problem with cair here is they intimidated another company to their will. That's not good. If the company had removed it on their own- that would be fine. But this was forced by cair. How do muslims view capitulation to their demands?

I will thank them when they leave America.

154 MacGregor  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:08:08pm

re: #136 WrathofG-d
CAIR is in Al Sharpton mode. Like who is allowed to say ho.

155 Jheka  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:08:15pm

re: #141 storagemanager

re: #139 ornery elephant


What can legally be done to see that C.A.I.R. is removed from the landscape of America?

Nothing...unless they break a law.

Sometimes, a law needs to be made ...

156 Highrise  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:08:44pm

148 Sharmuta 8/01/2007 4:06:18 pm PDT reply quote

I am against this phrase being in the game, and I even thanked cair for getting it removed. My problem with cair here is they intimidated another company to their will. That's not good.


Well they did have the best to learn from...*cough* jesse jackson *cough*

I think things would be a whole lot different if cair was a good seed and muslims loudly denounced their blowing up brethren, yet all they seem to know how to do is pressure and intimidate. THAT I have issues with as well.

157 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:08:48pm
158 astronmr20  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:09:04pm

I don't know...

While it's bad that Capcom caved in to CAIR, I think at the same time it's good they removed that audio. The "other groups" that heard that phrase and disliked it could have been someone who does NOT want to hear the bleating of "Allahu Akbar" while they are playing a video game.

Remember, that is the most common phrase one would hear before getting murdered or tortured.

Plus, it was entirely out of context. It just happened to be in the background in sort of a random sense, in a somewhat random enviornment of gameplay; and from what I could tell of the gameplay it was not the direct result of a character's actions in the game.

159 MacGregor  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:09:25pm

re: #145 WrathofG-d

LOL - Like tapping on the wine glass with a spoon!

160 Thanos  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:09:28pm

Obama policy update

It made front page, but the paper is smart enough (Unlike AP) to run Cheney's Larry King interview to counter the notion.

Obama

Cheney

161 Render  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:10:40pm

re: #144 Cattt

This sorta reminds me of Tipper Gore back in the PRMC days.

Ol Tipper got her panties in a bunch about Judas Priest and Ozzy Osbourne, but never once noticed Slayer, Venom or a host of other bands that were far "worse."

LIKE A
POOR
MARKSMAN,
R

162 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:11:11pm

re: #160 Thanos

Obama policy update

It made front page, but the paper is smart enough (Unlike AP) to run Cheney's Larry King interview to counter the notion.

Obama

Cheney


thank you.

163 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:11:23pm

re: #153 storagemanager

I will thank them when they leave America.

I'll join you.

My point in thanking them was twofold though. One- I'm glad it's been removed. I don't think kids should be subjected to it. Second- it was meant as a bit of an insult. cair was thanked by a sharmuta. The horror.

164 BrianA  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:11:25pm

Don't you all know playing video games is un-Islamic. You should be out making dirty bombs or teaching kids how to chop off heads like good little Taliban.

165 Ziggy  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:12:21pm

I can't take much more. CAIR and the likes don't realize the hypersensitivity bit will create a backlash eventually. Or at least I hope so.

166 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:12:21pm

re: #148 Sharmuta

How do muslims view capitulation to their demands?

As we've seen all throughout history, it simply serves to embolden them. That's why, as a free society that wishes to remain free, we must challenge this behavior and let muslims everywhere know that they will not get special set asides. The principles that this nation is founded on are greater than sharia. Plain and Simple.

167 Highrise  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:12:24pm

re: #163 Sharmuta


cair was thanked by a sharmuta.

haha did you get a response? I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall when that was received.

168 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:12:40pm

OT:

Some good message rap...someone tell O'Reilly!

(I don't know of the video...but it seems On Topic...but listen to the lyrics)

169 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:12:43pm

re: #157 song_and_dance_man

The only controversies I recall was the word SEX was a waifing of smoke

I think that one's in The Lion King.

170 Thanos  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:12:58pm
The Pakistan Foreign Office declined to comment without seeing Obama’s exact remarks, but issued a general warning for candidates.
“He (Obama) is not the president of the United States, we do not make comments on the observations of individual politicians. However, these are serious matters and should not be used for point-scoring,” FO spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam told AFP.

Now I expect the Frontier Post to run the Obama speech in the most incendiary manner possible, headed there next

171 NiceLass  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:13:28pm

re: #163 Sharmuta

I don't think kids should be subjected to it.

I do. Teenagers especially.

172 ornery elephant  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:13:34pm

re: #141 storagemanager

re: #139 ornery elephant


What can legally be done to see that C.A.I.R. is removed from the landscape of America?

Nothing...unless they break a law.

I don't give up that easily!

They need funds yes? Didn't I see where their membership took a huge drop and most think their funding comes from the Sauds, etc.?

How about if Congress passed a law restricting funding for C.A.I.R. due to their current "unindicted" status? How about a special law that restricts Saudi investment in non-profit organizations in the U.S.?

If you cut off the money, they should dry up and blow away.

Another aspect, legal of course, would be to hire papparazzi. Stalking of course is illegal but if you were to hire a reporting team to do a documentary on C.A.I.R. which involved a 24/7 shadowing of their leadership council...well, that may both uncover some interesting "meetings" as well as create some discomfort for those in charge.

:shrug: just tryin' yanno

173 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:13:34pm

re: #145 WrathofG-d

That'd be awsome.

174 WrathofG-d  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:14:28pm

re: #173 YourTaxDollarsAtWork


Hey PLEASE feel free to take the idea, spread it around...and video the results..

I could use a great laugh.

175 NiceLass  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:15:08pm

In fact, I'm going to suggest he pick the Koran for his next book report.

176 shifty  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:15:09pm

They're really going to hate Grand Theft Camel

177 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:15:47pm

re: #172 ornery elephant

You forget that others are getting that Saudi money as well...like congressmen, political parties, news organizations.

You'd be better off waiting for the planet to explode I bet.

178 NiceLass  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:16:23pm

re: #172 ornery elephant

How about a special law that restricts Saudi investment in non-profit organizations in the U.S.?

Excellent idea. Bush won't do it...maybe when Rudy gets in.

179 Thanos  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:16:23pm

The Frontier Post report on Obama's Speech, from a Washington agency,

[Link: www.thefrontierpost.com...]

180 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:16:24pm

Remember how outraged CAIR was that their fellow Muslims blew up a nightclub in Bali?

Who can forget the barrage of open calls for the hostage takers at the school in Beslan should unconditionally release all of the children?

Except these things had to happen to be remembered.

They did not happen because it takes fundamentally moral people to do fundamentally moral actions. That is not who CAIR is.

CAIR is a group that grew out of HAMAS. They are funded from overseas and their membership has declined. Members of their senior leadership worked hard to relax America's defensed pre-911- I remember quite well how hard they argued that secret evidence should not be used against terrorists. So the US let a certain Mr. Marzouk go and he has been waging war against American interests and killing as many Jews as he can ever since. When serious terrorism charges were laid against Sami al Arian, a senior leader of the al Qaeda affiliated Islamic Jihad (a man who worked closely with CAIR before he was arrested), CAIR was their defending al Arian even though any reading of the complaint against the defendant was either the guiltiest terrorist scum who ever lived or was the victim of the greatest US government frame-up ever. Needless to say al Arian is in prison, having plead guilty to being a terrorist. Conversely, when people whom I think are reputable critics of Islam or noted Islamic moderates, CAIR denounces them with everything they have. But let the US govenrment impound some Muslim charities and hear them scream "witchhunt!"

No organization in America has had more of its senior leadership go to prison for terror related offenses than CAIR. They sang one tune pre-911 and another after. "Please America, don't think Muslims would do something like this attack," they cried "and, if it turns out that Muslims were guilty, we are going to call you racist scum and try to portray the most open and accepting society in human history as a bunch of bigots all the while we preach and invite you to join the very same wonderful religion that was used to justify the 911 attacks.

This is CAIR. Every single thing I have asserted here is supported by overwhelming and indisputable facts- facts that those taking on CAIR need to slam back in their faces until they crawl back under whatever rock they came from.

181 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:16:31pm
182 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:17:11pm

re: #172 ornery elephant
We are arming Saudi Arabia to counter Iran...I don't see it.

183 NiceLass  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:17:20pm

re: #175 NiceLass

In fact, I'm going to suggest he pick the Koran for his next book report.

Of course, we'll have to dispose of it once he's done. Hmmm...

184 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:17:43pm

re: #171 NiceLass

You think children should be subliminally listening to "allah ackbar"? It was so vague in the video clip I would almost think it was pro-islamic propaganda. Normalizing "allah ackbar" to kids. I think cair didn't think this one through, although I think they love to flex their muscles and this was enough for them to want to flex.

185 BrianA  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:17:50pm

re: #139 ornery elephant

What can legally be done to see that C.A.I.R. is removed from the landscape of America?

Have the IRS pull their 501(c)(4) status and start taxing all those Saudi donations.

187 Highrise  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:18:09pm

re: #183 NiceLass

re: #175 NiceLass


In fact, I'm going to suggest he pick the Koran for his next book report.

Of course, we'll have to dispose of it once he's done. Hmmm...

If you keep it from the toilet atleast, you might be ok on that front :P

188 Jimash  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:18:36pm

I'm glad.
My Daughter wants a wii and loves that kind of game. If Iheard the cute little whatevertheyares yelling that, I'd toss it.

I think it was am insult too, but damn if I got the gist of the game.
Other than the "move like this" part.

189 Allah al Fubar  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:18:48pm

Why not just say "aLLah FUBAR" instead?

/

190 Mich-again  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:20:36pm

re: #154 MacGregor

re: #136 WrathofG-d
CAIR is in Al Sharpton mode. Like who is allowed to say ho.

I think CAIR is borrowing from the Jesse Jackson corporate shakedown manual.

191 Angel  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:20:52pm

re: #82 Highrise

re: #63 Angel

No kidding. It says alot when one of the most popular games is grand theft auto and I hear another one is on the horizon that I don't know much about called 25 to life.

hiya highrise!
dang...why does everyone eeek and oooze with sympathy when Muslllims get offended but how First Amendment if women are brutalized or tormented in video games...
scratches head*

192 Atman  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:20:55pm

Ahhh, again with the lesson on Allah...
Allah=moon god...
/...seeth time take 5,000,674 (this week)...

193 Thanos  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:21:43pm

Speaking of arming the Saudis, this editorial will give you an idea of the Frontier Post's ideological stance. (They like Iran)

[Link: www.thefrontierpost.com...]

194 Haint  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:23:12pm

If you think our current political apparatus is going to willingly cut off any viable source of filthy lucre, you are, sorry to say, fooling yourself.

If you want a new attitude, what you need is a fresh new crop of congress critters, and you need a way to see beforehand which of them will sell their souls to the highest bidder, and without the advent of some new psychic renaissance, I doubt that is possible.

Yes I do tend toward the morose

195 BrianA  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:24:02pm

re: #73 NJDhockeyfan

re: #31 looking closely


This one is an internet classic.

Bin Laden Liquors.

Check out the Glock (and the Slurpee!).


I scored 55,000 my first time.

62,500!

196 Fasternu426  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:24:14pm

I'm American! Stuck Mojo!

197 ornery elephant  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:25:45pm

re: #185 BrianA

re: #139 ornery elephant


What can legally be done to see that C.A.I.R. is removed from the landscape of America?

Have the IRS pull their 501(c)(4) status and start taxing all those Saudi donations.

I don't know what a 501(c)(4) is but i sure like the sound of this!

Where there is a will, there is a way! It's like a movie I saw when I was a kid..it was called , "Naked Jungle"...it was all about this huge swarm of ants over in Africa (scared the heck outta me as youngun) but anyway, there's a part where the humans try to drown the ants but the ants climbed trees and cut leaves off and then all the ants got on the leave like little boats and just floated over the surging waters!

So, you can't tell me a horde of Lizards can't take the likes of Doug Hooper and drop kick him off our Land!

It's time they shove off.

198 Fasternu426  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:26:46pm
199 Cameron  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:27:25pm

re: #197 ornery elephant

501(c) is tax-free status given to nonprofits, if I recall correctly.

200 ornery elephant  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:28:05pm

Holy Smoke!

For any of you in the Twin Cities of Mpls-St. Paul or have friends/family here...the 35 W Bridge over the Mississippi just COLLAPSED into the river!

:pray for survivors:

201 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:28:06pm

China is poisoning us...

Company will recall toys that were made in China because they contain lead paint... Developing...

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

202 damnyanqui  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:29:08pm

Watching the clip from the game, it looks like the "Allah akbar" is some background noise to suggest you're in a hostile savage weird alien place, as if it's coming from loudspeakers at some nearby mosque.
Having spent time in Cairo, I can tell you it's actually a very accurate and valuable bit of verisimilitude. Just imagine being jolted out of bed by that racket before the crack of dawn, coming from speakers that are apparently required by law to be crappy!

I'm not familiar with what was done to ET,

Hey buzzsawmonkey, what happened to ET was quite bizarre. There's a scene in which the kid gets dressed up for Halloween in a big beard and the mom says "you look like a terrorist." The line was later dubbed over to have her say "hippie" instead of "terrorist."
Guess pointing out what terrorists look like was a little too close to reality for a sci-fi fantasy flick.

203 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:29:20pm

re: #200 ornery elephant

What? ? ?

204 GoJeepGo  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:29:25pm

This isn't the first time... Nintendo changed the music for one of the levels in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time in response to Muslim complaints.

205 Catttt  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:30:06pm

re: #60 pegcity

Kakuto Chojin was banned for Xbox because it had a line of the koran at the end of one of the characters stories if you beat the game with him, this was way back in 01.

Here is a clip from the game showing the portion of the game that caused the controversy.

206 Live4Truth  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:30:26pm
“God is most Great” it is a common prayer in Islam.


Uh, yeah, we know. Heard it many times, such as when an airliner is intentionally flown into the ocean, when prisoners are executed by sawing off their heads, and just about any time that murder is committed in the name of Allah.

If you have a problem with misuse of "Allah Akbar," CAIR, then your biggest problem is with the jihadis, not an innocuous and insignificant mention in a cartoon-game. Unless of course you're in partnership with the jihadis, in which case spending your efforts going after a cartoon game is just another front on your jihad.

207 ornery elephant  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:31:57pm

re: #203 Ma Sands

I live in Minneapolis...Interstate 35W goes thru Minneapolis, running North and South. It's a MAJOR thoroughfare and it just collapsed at rush hour! At rush hour, there could have been a hundred cars on that bridge!

208 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:32:58pm

OMG watch fox new now!

209 Cameron  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:33:55pm

Live view on Fox

210 ornery elephant  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:33:56pm

re: #208 storagemanager

I'm watching local storage, is it on Fox national?

211 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:34:18pm

re: #210 ornery elephant

yes...omg

212 Highrise  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:34:25pm

202 damnyanqui 8/01/2007 4:29:08 pm PDT reply quote

Watching the clip from the game, it looks like the "Allah akbar" is some background noise to suggest you're in a hostile savage weird alien place, as if it's coming from loudspeakers at some nearby mosque.

I figured they were angry at the stage setting and not the actual usage of the phrase.

I just like to make sure motives are clear on why they are using their intimidation to get something cut out. If we don't atleast talk about the means/intent they use to get to their end result (even if we agree with the end result or not), that could lead us down a really bad path.

213 Cameron  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:34:30pm

Some of the ruins are on fire as well

214 Jimash  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:35:04pm

It's on TV now w/ Shep Smith
That is a bad scene.

215 sheik yer'mami  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:37:00pm

The jihad allows no competition.

Will they try to ban it from my song also?

[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

216 storagemanager  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:37:32pm

I hope and pray another one in some other city...oh man.

217 MJ  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:40:06pm

re: #90 buzzsawmonkey

Buzz,
The post office issued a stamp of Jackson Pollack which airbrushed out the cigarette he was smoking.
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

Also believe the PO issued a stamp of Edward Murrow and also removed the cigarette he was holding as well.

218 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:40:28pm
219 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:41:48pm

re: #207 ornery elephant

And a school bus! ! ! And I can't get hold of my children...at least five of them! ! !

220 Atman  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:41:57pm

re: #200 ornery elephant
20-30 hurt...no fatalities yet reported...

221 ornery elephant  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:42:09pm

They just interviewed a guy that was on the Bridge...his car fell about 30 feet...he said it was madness...he got out of his car and climbed up the end of the bridge and jumped off onto land! He said it was bumper to bumper on the bridge when it happened - there was a school bus full of children that everyone was trying to get out and off the bridge...kids were crying , some are hurt, bleeding, broken bones. Damn!

222 Catttt  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:43:54pm

re: #161 Render

re: #144 Cattt

This sorta reminds me of Tipper Gore back in the PRMC days.

Ol Tipper got her panties in a bunch about Judas Priest and Ozzy Osbourne, but never once noticed Slayer, Venom or a host of other bands that were far "worse."

LIKE A
POOR
MARKSMAN,
R

Yeah. I cherish the memory of when Twisted Sister's lead singer Dee Snyder, bless his heart, appeared before the committee. It was great.

We're Not Going to Take It EXCELLENT VIDEO.

Also remember that Tipper Gore didn't like Judas Priest's Eat Me Alive. AT all. She was so annoying and prissy. Not that she was wrong - I understand her reasoning. She just bugs me anyway.
Ahhh - memories.

223 therewaslight  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:44:51pm

re: #3 M. Bensson-Levi

Rats!

In a previous thread you said little more than "Cockroaches."

You are using de-humanising language that I would not expect a Lizardroid to use.

Wonders if we have a "Moby" here trying to discredit LGF.

224 Jimash  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:45:08pm

what a nightmare

225 ornery elephant  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:45:14pm

re: #219 Ma Sands

re: #207 ornery elephant

And a school bus! ! ! And I can't get hold of my children...at least five of them! ! !

Ma Sands,

You have kids in the Twin Cities here? I opened up my email if you want to email me...I can try to get ahold of some if you need a little local help.

226 arier_tzvi  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:45:16pm

But its ok to call Jews pigs and or monkeys and say death to Jews while burning an Israeli flag. Ah ha.. Got yah...
The double standard at work. Nice...
Screw freedom of speech... Lets just sue everyone we dont like.

227 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:45:47pm
228 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:47:32pm

re: #223 therewaslight

M. Bensson-Levi is no troll. He's a heck of nice guy. I hope you're not insinuating that.

229 FQ Kafir  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:47:58pm

Here is footage of the Iranian video game where you shoot and kill Americans.

230 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:48:46pm

re: #225 ornery elephant

All 612 numbers can't get through...

231 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:50:06pm

re: #225 ornery elephant

Thanks...sorry...trying to be calm here.

I live just the east side of the river, in Northeast Mpls. ...

232 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:50:38pm

re: #230 Ma Sands

According to FOX, the school bus didn't go over Ma Sands if you didn't hear that.

233 ornery elephant  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:53:04pm

re: #231 Ma Sands

Oh okay! you live in NE Mpls...sorry, thought you were somewhere else with kids here. If you need any help , let me know - i'm in 763 code - NW suburbs of Mpls. I'm sure you're kids are just fine, Ma!

234 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:53:18pm

re: #232 goodbye_natalie

Thanks...I am seeing that, on tv...

235 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:55:00pm

re: #233 ornery elephant

My kids are all grown...but they all could have had reason to be on that bridge right then...I've accounted for 5 of the 7...

236 rokbassist  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:55:21pm

What kind of effed up game is this? Gimme Space Invaders back.

/product of the 80s

237 Allah al Fubar  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:55:26pm

re: #219 Ma Sands

re: #207 ornery elephant

And a school bus! ! ! And I can't get hold of my children...at least five of them! ! !

{Ma Sands}
They're saying they got out and they're okay

238 Ma Sands  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:56:46pm

Yikes! Now I can't even call OUT of 612... ):

239 Highrise  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:58:18pm

re: #228 goodbye_natalie

I think some people's troll/moby meters are off today. It's been a weird day.

240 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 4:58:22pm

re: #174 WrathofG-d

If we ever have a good car swarm here in SD, I'll definitely give it a shot.

241 grumpy old codger  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 5:09:15pm

re: #197 ornery elephant

re: #197 ornery elephant
South america, not Africa. Charlton Heston. A good film.

242 gromster  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 5:13:37pm
#15
YourTaxDollarsAtWork 8/01/2007 3:30:06 pm PDT reply quote

You never once heard a German complain over any cries of mine liben in wolfinstine or for being portrayed as nazis in every WWII game ever made.

Very true. In Blood Rayne (part 1), they're depicted as Nazis.

In the movies, too, you see the same thing, like with the Indiana Jones movies.

Black George Bush:
Another fun video game (but it has nothing to do with Islam) is Star Wars Battlefront. It came out a few years ago, but I got a used copy dirt cheap a few weeks ago.
I also recommend the Lego Star Wars games - they're a lot of fun.

243 segesta  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 5:14:50pm

Because, you know, "allah akbar" when shouted by terrorists right before they blow up themselves up does not cheapen Islam at all.

244 Son Of The Godfather  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 5:17:05pm

This is getting re-G-d-damned-diculous.

How 'bout we keep the phrase out of video games, and you back assward jihadists keep it out of your self-combustion events.

245 Cygnus  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 5:24:13pm

re: #107 Jheka

All hail the snackbar!

So, how do you say "not really" in Arabic?

I feel akbar!

Naruto feels akbar!

That Nutrigrain commercial is scary! They look like a bunch of Amway zombies. Or Cindy Sheehan groupies.

246 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 5:27:19pm
247 Goosio  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 5:32:33pm

Will they remove all other profanity from the game as well?

248 Dartmouth  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 5:36:04pm

Wow! I have no idea what's going on in this game, but that's the scariest game I've ever seen. Are those munchkins supposed to be Jihadists?

249 MJ  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 6:33:22pm

re: #227 buzzsawmonkey

"The people who are doing this are cultural vandals. They are one with the PC people who demanded that a WPA mural--in its day, an exemplar of leftist PC--be removed from the elementary school it had graced since the day it was completed, because--horrors!--it showed Indians looking like Indians, and it showed black people picking cotton".

Unfortunately, the destruction of art for political purposes has long and dis-honorable history. Rembrandt's famed painting "The Conspiracy of Claudius Civilis" is but a fragment of the massive original. The rest of the painting was destroyed.
[Link: www.abcgallery.com...]

Diego Rivera's 1933 mural, "Man at the Crossroads," in the lobby of the RCA Building at Rockefeller Center was destroyed when his patron Nelson Rockefeller discovered that the mural included a portrait of Lenin and other communist imagery.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

250 therewaslight  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 6:36:16pm

re: #228 goodbye_natalie

re: #223 therewaslight

M. Bensson-Levi is no troll. He's a heck of nice guy. I hope you're not insinuating that.

What is the difference between "rats" and "cockroaches" and "pigs and monkeys."

A lot: one a civilised person who respects free speech has said. The other is said (often by rote) by someone who would chop your head off if you disagreed.

Problem I had with Bensson-Levi's imaginative use of zoological metaphor was that it gives our opponents and easy shot to call us hypocrites.

OTOH something lik "[bigoted word]s" would not be hypocritical because that is more explicitly links the not-so civilised behaviour of the jihadis to their textbook for terror.

I'm not going to argue the point though as I don't object to someone's freedom to call other people animal names, but I think it would be a good tactical move to demonstrate we are more civilised in our language as well as behaviour.

251 Nemesis6  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 6:42:19pm

I also thought about the mod called Insurgency [Link: www.insurgencymod.net...]

CAIR will freak out when they hear the terrorists say "takbir" and "Allahu akbar" when they throw grenades. Good mod by the way.

252 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 6:42:20pm
253 UncleSam  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 7:12:24pm

That's one weird video game.

254 Van Impe  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 7:16:47pm
“Allahu akbar”

Of course these were the last words heard by all of the passengers on the 4 airliners hijacked on 9/11.

255 Allah  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 7:30:11pm

I am clearly disgusted that a phrase like "allahu ak*ar" was included in a seemingly child's videogame. CAIR was right: this sort of crap needs to be pulled off the shelves immediately.

Kos Om Isla'am, kos om Allah, kos om jihad, kos om CAIR wa Muhammed rasul khanzeer!

/love speech off

256 uptight  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 10:15:41pm

This is a good thing
I wouldn't want my kids to be exposed to the vile chant of the Mohammed cult. I'm only sad that it was the CAIR mafia making them an offer they couldn't refuse, rather than concerned parents that made them remove it.

257 Ezekiel2517  Wed, Aug 1, 2007 10:30:23pm

Next they will demand that Admiral Akbar's character name in the Star Wars films be changed, because calamari is haram.

258 ashan  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 1:07:20am

“Allahu akbar” is not a "prayer" (as in the news item) - it's an expletive.

259 MacBoy  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 1:47:11am

#256 uptight

Then you've completely missed the point.

260 baconeatingkaffir  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 2:50:16am

I've got a friend who has a pirate copy of this game. It's already out here in Turkey. I've not heard any complaints about it here.. so why do these hypo-cair-ondriacs care? I want them to edit out the "allah akbar" in the ezzam which wakes me up every morning.
I'm thinking that if I ever open a bar.. it should be called "al's ak-bar"

261 baconeatingkaffir  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 2:51:33am

Cookie lady.. where's the website which has the arabic t-shirt with "america akbar" written on it? That would be an awesome thing to wear to the next CAIR rally. I doubt half those scumbags can even read arabic. They're just arab wannabees.

262 SalsaNChips  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 4:28:23am

Running With Scissors (RWS) "POSTAL 2". Greatest game ever.

Wonder what CAIR would think of the Muslim characters in that game? No wait, I don't "CAIR" (haha). And I doubt RWS does either...

263 baconeatingkaffir  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 4:43:09am

re: #262 SalsaNChips

I wonder what htye'd think of half-life and counterstrike? :)

264 Kozak  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 5:57:59am

May I suggest "Allah FUBAR" as a substitute?

265 deseeded  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 6:20:41am

I know Valve is trying to sell the mod to lots of different people, but I think their description of the two armies involved is whacked:

The Battlefield...
Insurgency will take you across the modern battlefield, engaging in intense firefights and battles as a member of either a highly organized and equipped conventional force (US Marines), or as an unconventional fighter that uses a combination of firepower and bravery to take on their sometimes overwhelming opponent (Insurgents).

Firepower and Bravery?!? More like homemade bombs and brainwashing.

266 derek  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 6:55:35am

Joystiq is now reporting on it.

Leave them a message in the comments section - in fact, LGF has already been mentioned.

Joystiq Comment Link

267 NCusTranshumanist  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 10:45:28am

Pretty sad that the company that brought us the superhero Mega Man is staffed with such cowards.

We did too good a job on the Japanese. Should've left 'em some stones.

Re: Charles' comment: "Allahu Ackbar" is hate speech. But not in the fashion CAIR states.

268 NCusTranshumanist  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 10:59:06am

On the other hand, yes, CAIR, please keep aggravating the ones whose skills will be whacking your jihadi clients in the near future. Give them a reason to make it personal.

Pretty please? With JDAMs on top?

269 NCusTranshumanist  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 12:11:36pm

I wish I could animate, cause I'd do this one:

SCENE: Capcom headquarters. The famous mascot walks through the hallways, pensive.

Megaman: I can't believe they capitulated like this. It could mean terrible things for the industry. Give me Robot Masters any day. I have to do something, but I can't shoot humans. What do I do? Hmm... I know he's busy finishing Galaxy, but I'll have to talk to (portentious echo here) the Godfather of Gaming.

*Teleports*

SCENE: Int. CAIR headquarters. A knock at the door is heard.

Abdul: Get the door, Achmed.

Achmed opens the door to door to a short man leaning against the doorjamb, wearing a trenchcoat over blue overalls and a red shirt. A red cap is pulled low over his eyes.

Achmed: What do you want?

M: I got a visit from a friend of mine from-a back-in-the-day. He says your-a giving his employers some trouble. He asked me to take-a care of it.

Achmed: Do you mean the Capcom infidels?

M: That's-a right. Now listen Abdul...

Achmed: I am not Abdul! He's Abdul!

M: Whatever. Listen, the Wii is-a my turf, and I won't-a have you messing around in it. So I'm-a here to deliver a message.

He reaches into his coat pocket and withdraws what looks like an orange tulip. The iconic sound effect is heard, and he coat and overalls turn orange, while his shirt and cap turn white. A fireball appears in his hand.

M: (darkly) Let's-a go.

Title card appears. Sound FX of screams, fireball sounds, and crackling flames can be heard. The card reads "I can't show it. It's too gruesome!"

Back to the scene. M turns his back on the building, now in flames. He snaps his fingers, and a green pipe appears from the ground. He leaps into it and the pipe vanishes, leaving no trace but the smoldering CAIR building.

270 BeckoningChasm  Thu, Aug 2, 2007 2:43:45pm

For those curious about Disney's "Aladdin", the lyrics were changed from "where they cut off your hand if they don't like your face," to "where it's flat and immense and the heat is intense."

SO yeah, this caving is nothing new.

Incidentally, I've got an MP3 of the original version around, it's much more apt.


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