The Associated Press report omits the fact that the suspects are Middle Eastern

The msm omit facts? Not the msm! They never have before.

/mock innocence

Dadgum Amish.

Suspicious item?

Two persons arrested for something. Hmmmm

Two men were detained after police found a suspicious item in their car during a routine traffic stop for speeding near Charleston, authorities said Sunday.

The police were on the look out for "people"...doing "things".

Had it on the 24 hour rule, now can bump it up a notch.

just saw it on CNN. CNN could not be any less interested in knowing anything about the two men detained.

Nah, the two were oboists. You know, they keep making those dangerous double reeds.

You mean they weren't Buddhists? Shazam! Golllllleee!

C'mon, you cynics! Haven't you realized as yet that things like guns, explosives, swords, etc., are just the average mo's accoutrements for being islamic. They're just following all those cool verses in the koran, the ones that talk about killing infidels, Jews, etc.. Arresting them is interfering with the practice of their religion. I expect CAIR to show up shortly and defend their right to peacefully kill us, their tickets to paradise.

Hoping against hope that Dougie Hooper was driving, with Nihad Awad riding shotgun.

the unnerving part is that these plots all seemed to be discovered because of traffic stops.

Unless that was a pretext and intel said 'move now.'

keep a sharp lookout for diverse people engaged in activities

One man's suspicious item is another man's car-bomb.

You know, I've lived in South Carolina and I'm thinking it was the Southern Baptists. Those crazy immersion baptizing, raising hands when singing Christians. They just have it in their eyes.

Items, bombs, what's the difference, really?

The last time I drove through South Carolina with explosives in my trunk, I'd just bought them at South Of The Border. Where may I pick up my 72 virgins?

1. Meyers Rd at Hw 176 about 7 miles from the Naval Weapons Station and the Brig [where Padilla wass held]

Were they HIGH on morphine?
Were they MOOOOOOOOSLIMS?
Get your conclusions her folks! They're cheap and easy to assemble.
One size fits all.

Just the facts ma'am................

Power to the Correct People!
(The correctly informed People too.)

Florida is up there with Pakistan in cranking out the jihadis. But our last two governors are "RoP" "hijacking a great religion" dhimmis.

Two men were detained after police found a suspicious item in their car during a routine traffic stop for speeding near Charleston, authorities said Sunday.

Those undercover Buddhists are everywhere.

a la millenium jihadist Ahmed Ressam... routine traffic stop saves the day...

more:

The car was heading west on U.S. Highway 176, away from Goose Creek and the Naval Weapons Station there, Lombard said. The facility also houses the U.S. Naval Consolidated Brig, a military prison where enemy combatants have been held. The traffic stop took place about 7 miles from the sprawling Navy facility.

It was just cheese right? Big chunks of cheses; or maybe cans of cheese whiz.

They needed the cheese whiz to pay the whizya....

/not that it's necessary....

Guess the Associated Press`can't spell M-U-S-L-I-M-----But only 10% are`radical and a threat-----10% of 3 Billion, isn't that like 300 Million?

reminds me of OKC bombing, APB just dissappears

Hey, South Carolina is south of Pennsylvania, the men MUST be Amish. MSM are keeping it secret by calling their vehicle a car rather than a buggy.

Well at least they didn't dunk any Korans in the toilet.

/'cause then their pictures would be splashed across the MSM and the names of their family put in print

I had to laugh, one of the early headlines, Fox I think, said the suspects were Mid-Easter, Like they were from Ohio, or something.

re: #28 Killian Bundy

Well at least they didn't dunk any Korans in the toilet.

/'cause then their pictures would be splashed across the MSM and the names of their family put in print

Most excellent point as always Killian

From AP via foxnews.com:

"GOOSE CREEK, S.C. — A highway was shut down outside Charleston after police found a "suspicious item" in a car during a traffic stop, authorities said Sunday.

Charleston County Sheriff Al Cannon would not say what the item was, but said that a bomb squad planned to demolish it.

Cannon said two men who were in the car were still at the scene at 2 a.m. An FBI agent said officials were trying to determine whether a crime had been committed.

Julie Johnson, assistant special agent-in-charge for the FBI in Columbia, said there was "no immediate threat," The (Charleston) Post and Courier reported late Saturday.

Law enforcement officials closed the road about 7 p.m. after the traffic stop in Goose Creek, home to the Naval Weapons Station. The station houses the U.S. Naval Consolidated Brig, a military prison where enemy combatants have been held.

The traffic stop took place about 7 miles from the sprawling Navy facility.

Johnson said the FBI was still trying to determine whether a crime had been committed but that there was "no immediate threat" related to the traffic stop.

Goose Creek, with a population of about 30,000, is located about 20 miles north of Charleston."

They had something that was not a threat and maybe not a crime but the bomb squad is going to destroy it?

I've got this one on a 24 to 48 hour quarantine only because I've been known to accidentally buy fireworks in Ga. or S.C. and mistakingly transport them back to N.Y. That being cautiously stated with a slight amount of "limited hangout," not a lot of freckle faced 43 year old, Americans of Irish-Catholic ancestry, fly planes into buildings or blow themselves up in a crowded market. Generally speaking, we just drink a lot of beer and lite fireworks in the backyard. Just sayin'

Post and Courier write up

Photo of the car and the robot poking around the trunk

You notice CAIR's been pretty quiet the past two days... Black Muslim Bakery... crickets......

JI facilitator arrested in Sunnyvale.... the quiet computer fans whirring in the pressroom....

I believe we will be dealing with this threat, and will not stop all of it, until the islamic world experiences something like the Axis went through in WW2.

And as we sit here every day, Iran enriches uranium.

I don't think they will use it for a paperweight.

#17 - Depends...if they were bottle rockets, forget it.

re: #32 ironbill

Interesting theory. It is possible that they stopped at South of the Border and bought a large quantity of fireworks.

re: #32 ironbill

Do they usually call in the bomb squad when they stop someone with illegal fireworks?

/just sayin'

re: #37 Killgore Trout

re: #32 ironbill

Interesting theory. It is possible that they stopped at South of the Border and bought a large quantity of fireworks.

That could be, I have. I also bought one of those plastic hands giving the gesture there when I was a kid.

Here's the other picture

re: #24 Thanos

If Muslims not moonshine.

re: #37 Killgore Trout

re: #32 ironbill

Interesting theory. It is possible that they stopped at South of the Border and bought a large quantity of fireworks.

If so, I'll bet they're (a) imams and (b) members of CAIR...

re: #38 Killian Bundy

I don't think so.

two men of Middle Eastern descent.

That only slipped past the censors because the event occurred off-hours and was covered by non-big city press.

These days the American public is not trusted with this sort of information because we might just form opinions which are politically incorrect.

It was only a few years ago the names and descriptions of perps or suspects was released to the press immediately. How quickly we have become desensitized to not knowing these things. It is because the press is compliant in restraining this information.

The press would move heaven and earth to uncover or speculate upon the names of persons they do not like. That's what leaks are for. But leaks need not apply where protected groups are concerned. Why, next thing you know the American people might wake up and realize they are in the middle of a war -- and vote accordingly. The press will not be complicit in anything like that.

I thought SC was where a yankee could go to buy some m80s and roman candles. And grits.

re: #40 RichatUF

Here's the other picture

A large gas can? I'm thinking jerry can? If it were a gas canister or tank I think they would have stated it that way.

It is possible that they stopped at South of the Border and bought a large quantity of fireworks

Its not illegal to have fireworks in that part of SC. But I wouldn't doubt that that becomes the story as the two get quickly deported

#45 -
Watch it, don't dis the grits.

They'll be released in no time, and able to pull off the next one successfully. Love those wacky judges!

44 Luigi

because we might just form opinions which are politically incorrect.

I have, ever since the death fatwa on Rushdie.

re: #40 RichatUF

Doesn't look like a large quantity of anything there.

Has the ACLU provided attorneys for these guys yet?

re: #52 njdhockeyfan

Has the ACLU cair provided attorneys for these guys yet?

Fixed that.

DON'T jump to conclusions! DON'T stereotype! DON'T act like an intolerant, racist, colonialist hatemonger!

Because...
Because...
Because..

They--
Might--
Be--

Buddhists!

They might be Buddhists! They might be Buddhists! Buddhists, I tell ya. Buddhists!

TMBB (long time no used dis sig...)

One thing not noted in the report:
They made the traffic stop for speeding, but one of the officers stated that they were alerted "information by an investigation in another jurisdiction" from my post:

Something to think on: the truck car came from Florida, was stopped in South Carolina, which is enroute to Washington DC. Maybe a stretch, but remember that the media outlet for Al Qaeda put up a banner promising a “Big Surprise” with a picture of Bush, Musharraf, and the White house burning recently.

UPI report:

A South Carolina highway was closed for hours Saturday night while authorities used a bomb squad robot to search a car.

Although U.S. Highway 176 in Goose Creek near Charleston, S.C., was closed for more than four hours, the FBI said there was no immediate threat, The (Charleston) Post and Courier reported. More than a dozen police cars, fire trucks and an ambulance surrounded the gray sedan being searched, the newspaper said.

An FBI spokeswoman said the federal agency was trying to determine if a crime had been committed. One witness told the newspaper the incident appeared to have started about 7 p.m. when police making a routine traffic stop and were talking with one man who might have been of Middle Eastern descent. The road was still blocked by authorities after 11 p.m.

UPDATE: Another story on the explosives, it appears there was a tip from “another jurisdiction”, even though the stop was made for speeding.

Lombardo also said information from an investigation in another jurisdiction raised the suspicions of the deputies

The Washington Post is more than happy to lay down and roll over for political correctness. No mention of "Middle Eastern descent" here.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

re: #48 mom's no dhimmi

#45 -
Watch it, don't dis the grits.

But at the jihad diner, you can't get 'em with black-eye gravy.

Prosecute with extreme prejudice and send them to Cuba!

Has the ACLU provided attorneys for these guys yet?

They're too busy defending the Pace U. Koran-flusher.

/sarc

If I had a nickel for the number of times law enforcement stopped me because I was acting suspiciously and then had to detonate the contents of my trunk....

Must be those darned Minnesota Lutherans again...

Mn-Dot is dismantling the traffic signals and putting up jersey barriers at the intersections on the upper part of Minnesota Highway 280 today. This bottlenecked the traffic on the I-35W detour route down to one lane.

After I checked my P.O. box in at the Downtown Post Office I found a place to park, grabbed the set of binoculars that I keep in my car, and walked down to the old Stone Arch Bridge. There was a crowd on that bridge. I couldn't see the whole of the wreckage of the 35W bridge but I could see huge patches of rust on some the structural pieces that were visible.

Why do I have the odd feeling that I'm living in a chapter of Atlas Shrugged?

I read the comment earlier (can't recall who) but ther is an interesting relationship between maniacs with explosives in the trunk, traffic stops, and "Middle Eastern males." Perhaps the whole desire to get to those 72 virgins in a hurry makes ya' wanna' drive over the posted limit to get there.

OT
Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, once again seeking to drive the 2008 campaign debate within his party, will today propose raising the capital gains tax rate to 28% from 15%.

OT:

Darwin award candidate...

LAKE CHARLES, LA (KPLC) - Shortly after midnight Thursday, one Lake Charles man died while engaged in sexual behavior involving a firearm.

The Calcasieu Parish sheriff's office has charged 36 year old Kimberly Grosset with negligent homicide in connection with the shooting death of her boyfriend.

Officials say she and 49 year old Robert White were engaged in consensual sexual behavior when he was shot in the head with a gun at his McCindy road home.

No bond has been set.

Kinky.

Don't be alarmed. We have no idea what this is, but there no evidence it is terrorist related.

#57 Pullus Iulius -
Can't get them with bacon and cheddar, either. Another reason not to go Mo.

I am willing to go with the fireworks possibility, but wouldn't SC cops know that stuff right away? And if legal, how can the hold these men?

I predicted last night....as soon as it happened....that "Middle Eastern" would be dropped.
/do I win a prize

re: #51 Killgore Trout

It does not take a large quantity

YTMND: Come on Islam

I was looking at the picture closely and it looks to be a plastic shopping bag and a blue cooler. The red thing the robot is holding does in a way look like packaging for bottle rockets or roman candles...

re: #63 meMarc

Gee, what a great idea.

/considering most Americans are in a tax bracket less than 28%

#64

Whoa! That's scary and funny all at the same time. It's such a shame the guy lost his life. But having sex with a gun?

re: #64 njdhockeyfan

I have no earthly idea what they were doing, but clearly, it was to die for...

re: #65 kansas

Don't be alarmed. We have no idea what this is, but there no evidence it is terrorist related.

WIS News 10 talked to an FBI spokesperson who told us she could neither confirm or deny a possible link between the vehicle and a terrorist plot.

Interesting. Usually they immediately say it's not terrorism related.

re: #63 meMarc

OT
Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, once again seeking to drive the 2008 campaign debate within his party, will today propose raising the capital gains tax rate to 28% from 15%.

Great. That'll really help my 401K.

Just another example of the MSM no longer even being a transcient point between information, and the audiences.

Me? When the bridge just collapsed in Minnesota, I did all my news searching on the Internet.

I even heard about the two dudes, supposedly disguised as Puerto Ricans. On the Net. This morning.

That the police/FBI, whatever, won't talk to the media; nothing new here, folks. They're as frustrated with the media as so many of us, are.

Separate from the arm that comes out funded to talk about the "religion of peace," and "no terrorism." What credibility does it all have?

Even Glasgow, I watched it totally on the Net.

So it seems the one area where the MSM thought they had a lock; that's gone, now, too.

By the way, you'll notice how FACTS do trump.

When it became obvious that the St. Anthony's Bridge in Minneapolis fell down through wear and tear. And, that maintenance had not uncovered its growing flaws, I think that's the way we do find out when something's "not terrorism." And, people let it go.

re: #60 Canadian Infidel

If I had a nickel for the number of times law enforcement stopped me because I was acting suspiciously and then had to detonate the contents of my trunk....

Yeah. Don't you just hate it when that happens?

re: #55 Thanos
Did you check out any of the comments over there. One of them said it was a "rental car" from Florida. Another said the Red Cross set up camp and speculation that they were on the road to DC.

This really could turn out to be interesting.

re: #64 njdhockeyfan

Granny always used to say "Nothing says I love you like a studded leather bustier, micro-mini-skirt, thigh high snakeskin boots and a pair of well worn hand-cuffs". I don't remember her mentioning firearms. Later in life, I began to suspect that Granny might have been one of them social liberals.

So, are they . . .

a) Middle Eastern male up to no good
b) Good Ol' Boys out havin' fun with things that go boom
c) Ron Paul

re: #10 grumpy old codger

I expect CAIR to show up shortly and defend their right to peacefully kill us, their tickets to paradise.

I will happily punch their ticket.

re: #34 Thanos

You notice CAIR's been pretty quiet the past two days... Black Muslim Bakery... crickets......

JI facilitator arrested in Sunnyvale.... the quiet computer fans whirring in the pressroom....

That's after Spencer and the YAF bitch slaped them.

re: #40 RichatUF

RichatUF are you still around? My kid goes to school there, too.

I wonder if this will ever make the MSM headlines even if they do turn out to be jihadists.

After, or when, there is no If they blow up a building or kill a lot of shoppers with a car bomb, what are we willing to do about it?

Are we going to continue to turn the other cheeks or what is left of our butts?

Will we then get rid of the cowering cowards in Congress that would rather talk than protect?

Nancy will protect us.

She will put on her bee-hive hat and go beg them not to kill us..

re: #76 kansas

I believe when money comes out of a 401k it gets taxed as regular income not as capital gains. In any case, if a democrat is elected, I'm sure all the tax rates will go up.

re: #81 Ron_W
I think we can wrap them all in one: Iman Ron "Boomer" Paul

re: #79 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #55 Thanos
Did you check out any of the comments over there. One of them said it was a "rental car" from Florida. Another said the Red Cross set up camp and speculation that they were on the road to DC.

This really could turn out to be interesting.

No, I did not see the comment about the red cross, that is interesting.

re: #81 Ron_W

c) ROMPAUL!

re: #69 Ojoe

It does seem to rule out the large quantity of fireworks theory.

This neutering of the news by the press itself is one of the most dangerous things I've seen in a long time, and that's saying something. The press is entirely complicit in leaving out identification of suspects involved in crimes because I believe they do not want to reveal the race, or increasingly Islamic orientation.

I just going to reach out here and try to explain the mental algorithm I believe the press undergoes when they hide the fact that these men are of "Middle Eastern descent," i.e. Arabs. In brief, I believe the press is afraid if you get your hands on that information you would be more likely to support the President and the war, and generally adopt a conservative or Republican viewpoint . It is the position of the Democratic Party that the war is useless and counter-productive and there is no such thing as the War On Terror. If you find out that Arabs are sneaking around blowing things up, you're no longer going to believe that.

This can be fatal to our democracy. The founders provided for a free press. Here we have the press itself muzzling itself to keep the electorate in the dark.

And the public officials who are not providing this info to the press? It is the job of the press to, well, PRESS them! The press should be all over them like white on rice questioning why such information cannot be made public. You know, kind of like a Presidential press conference, or a session/skirmish with Tony Snow. But in this case, clearly the info is public and the press itself is censoring itself, against the wishes of the Founders.

re: #64 njdhockeyfan

OT:

Darwin award candidate...

LAKE CHARLES, LA (KPLC) - Shortly after midnight Thursday, one Lake Charles man died while engaged in sexual behavior involving a firearm.

The Calcasieu Parish sheriff's office has charged 36 year old Kimberly Grosset with negligent homicide in connection with the shooting death of her boyfriend.

Officials say she and 49 year old Robert White were engaged in consensual sexual behavior when he was shot in the head with a gun at his McCindy road home.

No bond has been set.

Kinky.

"This one's for shooting, this one's for fun..."

The Naval Weapons Station

When I was in Charleston during my college years, this was rumored to be a Nuclear Weapon Storage Facility.

re: #91 Killgore Trout

re: #69 Ojoe

It does seem to rule out the large quantity of fireworks theory.

Just curious, does the FBI usually show up at the scene when people are transporting fireworks?

re: #87 meMarc

re: #76 kansas

I believe when money comes out of a 401k it gets taxed as regular income not as capital gains. In any case, if a democrat is elected, I'm sure all the tax rates will go up.

Yes, but with a capital gains tax of that percent the market is not going to do as well ergo 401k sucks wind. When capital shifts under taxes, it goes to more favorable environments... like offshore to countries where gains are not taxed as high. So we hurt US economy, our 401K's, and decrease the amounts collected overall in taxes.

re: #12 SkankyRobot

the unnerving part is that these plots all seemed to be discovered because of traffic stops.

Unless that was a pretext and intel said 'move now.'

It's possible.
We'll never know.
Also, don't drive a major drug transportation highway with anything that is less than legal..

re: #81 Ron_W

re: #81 Ron_W

So, are they . . .

a) Middle Eastern male up to no good
b) Good Ol' Boys out havin' fun with things that go boom
c) Ron Paul

Ron Paul
Ron Paul
Ron Paul

the man is a blast.

re: #92 Luigi

You may be right.

This is how I thought they arrived at their logic: It is intolerant to think another race could do something bad. And if we keep disclosing the perps race while they're behaving badly....Americans will think "X" race is bad. And then we will have to start all over again at square one, teaching tolerance.

>re: #75 njdhockeyfan
WIS News 10 talked to an FBI spokesperson who told us she could neither confirm or deny a possible link between the vehicle and a terrorist plot.
Interesting. Usually they immediately say it's not terrorism related.

The FBI spokesperson was probably playing golf and had to check in to see what they were talking about, hence, "could neither confirm nor deny." In other words "WTF?"

For whatever reason (... MSM desire to advance PC, ... general apathy,...so on so forth) these stories tend to drop off the radar screen. I will try, best as I can, to keep up to speed (pun intended) on this one. Cops in S.C. don't generally call out the bomb squad for bottle rockets in the trunk.

re: #95 ornery elephant

No, But I could see it being an issue if the were Muslim men with a suspiciously huge amount of fireworks. The gun powder could be used for other purposes.

re: #95 ornery elephant

We had a kid near here build a rather small pipe bomb and the FBI, ATF and the State Police turned out.

re: #89 Thanos
Here you go.....of course it's just hearsay:

Posted by billyoblog on August 5, 2007 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't get it. It seems to be a virtual news vacuum about this story. From what I've been able to piece together, this is what (I think) we know. 2 middle eastern men riding in a car that appears to be a rental with Florida plates were stopped for 10 hours on a US highway while the RED CROSS set up shop, then arrested while the bomb squad blew up 'illegal' explosives contained in the vehicle which was in close proximity to a US Naval facility, international airport, and appeared to be headed in the general direction of I 95 which after a cursory map inspection seems to be a bee line to DC.

The MSM version has been reduced to 2 guys were arrested after police destroyed a 'device' in South Carolina.

Am I missing something here? If I was a local journalist, I'd be all over this one.

Are we positive it wasn't korans in the trunk of this vehicle along with 2 full toilets and two videotaped photoshops of Dick Cheney using the bathroom?!

re: #92 Luigi

But in this case, clearly the info is public and the press itself is censoring itself, against the wishes of the Founders.

Which is why one finds all of the smart people on sites like this one, while the MSM wonders why it is losing credibility

re: #92 Luigi

They routinely filter relevant facts when it fits their agenda. For example, the almost invariably either fail to mention or mention in the last paragraph or so the political affiliation of corrupt Democrats while putting the affiliation of Republicans in the headline and/or first paragraph, often repeating it every chance they get, it seems...

re: #96 Thanos

re: #87 meMarc

re: #76 kansas

I believe when money comes out of a 401k it gets taxed as regular income not as capital gains. In any case, if a democrat is elected, I'm sure all the tax rates will go up.

Well I haven't taken any out yet, but the performance of the market seems to change when tax rates change. Or is it just me?

re: #92 Luigi

"This neutering of the news by the press itself is one of the most dangerous things I've seen in a long time, and that's saying something. The press is entirely complicit in leaving out identification of suspects involved in crimes because I believe they do not want to reveal the race, or increasingly Islamic orientation. "

This has been going on a long time around here ( Southern California ). It leads to things like "Police are looking for a male, about 5' 10" tall. Please call. . ."

re: #104 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #89 Thanos
Here you go.....of course it's just hearsay:

Posted by billyoblog on August 5, 2007 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't get it. It seems to be a virtual news vacuum about this story. From what I've been able to piece together, this is what (I think) we know. 2 middle eastern men riding in a car that appears to be a rental with Florida plates were stopped for 10 hours on a US highway while the RED CROSS set up shop, then arrested while the bomb squad blew up 'illegal' explosives contained in the vehicle which was in close proximity to a US Naval facility, international airport, and appeared to be headed in the general direction of I 95 which after a cursory map inspection seems to be a bee line to DC.

The MSM version has been reduced to 2 guys were arrested after police destroyed a 'device' in South Carolina.

Am I missing something here? If I was a local journalist, I'd be all over this one.

Yep, come to think of it there was a local blog.. lemme see if I can find it.

re: #109 Ron_W

There you go again, discriminating against 5 foot 10inch men.

Goose Creek - Two men are being held in the Berkeley County Detention Center after police find explosive making devices in their car. The men 21-year-old Yousef Megahed and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed were pulled over Saturday evening during a routine traffic stop near Myers Road and Highway 176. Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers. Few details about the suspects are known at this time. They are believed to be students at a Florida college. They are of Middle Eastern descent and are not US citizens. Neither man has been charged, but charges are expected Monday. A press conference will be held at the Berkeley County Sheriff's office Monday at 11:30 in the morning. Among the potential charges is possession of unlawful explosives. Officials are not at this time releasing any additional information on the number of charges or types of explosive devices they found.
[Link: www.abcnews4.com...]

re: #108 kansas

re: #96 Thanos

re: #87 meMarc

re: #76 kansas

I believe when money comes out of a 401k it gets taxed as regular income not as capital gains. In any case, if a democrat is elected, I'm sure all the tax rates will go up.

Well I haven't taken any out yet, but the performance of the market seems to change when tax rates change. Or is it just me?

I think the irony of Edwards' stupidity is that he thinks this will score him points with the middle class that he is going after the "rich" and their capital gains while probably 80% of the middle class has their nest eggs and retirement funds locked up in mutual funds that Edwards would now tax at 28%. He's an idiot.

re: #113 ornery elephant

Thanks. I always wonder how someone so rich and so pretty can be so stupid.

Hamas is showing their colors- they put a gun to a professor's head and made him convert!

re: #96 Thanos

I agree. It won't be pretty. The dems will still find a way to blame Bush.

10 hours, Red Cross Tents.

It must have been some holy roller preachers.

I know several from Florida.

still very little information out there; two men of “Middle Eastern descent”

watch it! ... they are diverse people, doing various things ...

Yep,
Holy roller preachers.

21-year-old Yousef Megahed and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed were pulled over Saturday evening during a routine traffic stop near Myers Road and Highway 176. Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers. Few details about the suspects are known at this time. They are believed to be students at a Florida college. They are of Middle Eastern descent and are not US citizens.

re: #112 Liljekonvalj

Goose Creek - Two men are being held in the Berkeley County Detention Center after police find explosive making devices in their car. The men 21-year-old Yousef Megahed and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed were pulled over Saturday evening during a routine traffic stop near Myers Road and Highway 176. Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers. Few details about the suspects are known at this time. They are believed to be students at a Florida college. They are of Middle Eastern descent and are not US citizens. Neither man has been charged, but charges are expected Monday. A press conference will be held at the Berkeley County Sheriff's office Monday at 11:30 in the morning. Among the potential charges is possession of unlawful explosives. Officials are not at this time releasing any additional information on the number of charges or types of explosive devices they found.
[Link: www.abcnews4.com...]

Not to stray from the seriousness here but can you imagine the horrible hazing that poor little Yousef received while over in Hamas Youth Camp in Gaza as a youngster? I mean, with a last name like "Megahed", one can only imagine!

re: #112 Liljekonvalj

Great find there, thanks!

re: #118 Fearless Fred

Seems to be more Yosefs, Ahmeds, and Mohameds hauling around bomb making equipment than Bobs, Steves, and Mikes.

re: #112 Liljekonvalj

They are believed to be students at a Florida college.

Whatcha wanna bet they're here on student visas but not really going to class?

I have often wondered at the eagerness to blow up suspected explosives, when burning has long been the preferred way to dispose of explosives, and when retaining clues might be worth the effort.
On the other hand, making boom is fun.

re: #112 Liljekonvalj

The men 21-year-old Yousef Megahed and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed were pulled over Saturday evening during a routine traffic stop near Myers Road and Highway 176. Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers.

Megahed?

What's a fuser?

#112 Liljekonvalj

That's bylined Shantel Middleton again, like the original story. Kudos to her. It's the wire services that are the major culprits in this censorship. Especially the AP like Charles pointed out above. I'm sure everybody knows virtually every newspaper in the country runs wire service stories since they cannot have reporters everywhere. This shadowy AP is the prime culprit in this sort of censorship. They are literally the clearinghouse for a huge percentage of what the American public knows as the news.

re: #109 Ron_W

re: #92 Luigi

"This neutering of the news by the press itself is one of the most dangerous things I've seen in a long time, and that's saying something. The press is entirely complicit in leaving out identification of suspects involved in crimes because I believe they do not want to reveal the race, or increasingly Islamic orientation. "

This has been going on a long time around here ( Southern California ). It leads to things like "Police are looking for a male, about 5' 10" tall. Please call. . ."

Yeah, and if the perp's a midget, they won't even give the ht.

re: #120 ornery elephant

Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers.

Yes, Nothing to see here ...

While digging I got this over at Jihad watch from a week ago:

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

GREENVILLE -- A man has attracted the attention of the FBI after an incident at a Greenville County church last weekend.
Sheriff's deputies said Iyad Abed Alnazli entered the Redemption World Outreach Center's morning service Sunday, and tried to approach the stage.

"It was a young man of Arabic descent who had come in and said that he had a message for the church and this was a word from Allah." church founder Ron Carpenter said

Security officers met Alnazli before he reached the stage and stopped him.

"He became unraveled. He began to scream vulgarities out," Carpenter said.

When the officers escorted Alnazli from the building, they found he had left a briefcase in the foyer and parked his car in a church worker's spot against the building.

"And our first thoughts were, 'We have someone here who's unstable.' But the concerns grew when he began to talk all of the terrorist language, 'I want to do my job. I want to go back to my homeland," Carpenter said.

Deputies called the bomb squad and the FBI to investigate....

The bomb squad blew up the bag, but found no explosives. The FBI told WYFF News 4 only that it was aware of the incident and would not elaborate, but Carpenter said he was told that Alnazli was on an FBI watch list.

Investigators said Alnazli had recently been treated for mental problems.

Nice job by the South Carolina Highway Patrol, btw!

Forbes cuts to the chase:
Goose Creek is home to the Naval Weapons Station, which houses the U.S. Naval Consolidated Brig, a military prison where enemy combatants have been held.

Yousef Megahed and Ahmed Mohamed.

Sounds Amish to me.

re: #112 Liljekonvalj

Goose Creek - Two men are being held in the Berkeley County Detention Center after police find explosive making devices in their car. The men 21-year-old Yousef Megahed and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed were pulled over Saturday evening during a routine traffic stop near Myers Road and Highway 176. Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers. Few details about the suspects are known at this time. They are believed to be students at a Florida college. They are of Middle Eastern descent and are not US citizens. Neither man has been charged, but charges are expected Monday. A press conference will be held at the Berkeley County Sheriff's office Monday at 11:30 in the morning. Among the potential charges is possession of unlawful explosives. Officials are not at this time releasing any additional information on the number of charges or types of explosive devices they found.
[Link: www.abcnews4.com...]

Once again proving the theory: we should profile the name Mohammed (and the alternate spellings). I can't remember the last time a plot didn't involve at least one.

“Middle Eastern descent”

They probably descended from there about six months ago.

re: #128 LSD

re: #120 ornery elephant

Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers.

Yes, Nothing to see here ...

Nah, just some leftover 4th of July holiday celebrations by non-US citizens of middle eastern descent. Moving right along..

re: #125 Killgore Trout

A fuser is what you set off a Bruiser Bomb with.

rof

They are believed to be students at a Florida college.

I'll bet it's the University of South Florida. Home of Sami Al Arian and also the home of some Holy Land Foundation defendants.

I'll go with FAU.

What are two foreigners doing with explosives, igniters, and fusers, in America?

I live here in Goose Creek, SC, and it's funny to see how the media played this out last night. All they would say was the suspects were, "not white or black" so that only leaves one other race--HISPANIC! It's got to be! No one mentioned middle-eastern at all! I'm glad now more details have come out. You could tell the newscasters wanted to say middle-eastern, but were afraid to come out with it.

re: #132 meMarc

Yousef Megahed and Ahmed Mohamed.

Sounds Amish to me.

Here they are getting pulled over by the police.

So how fast is cair going to bail them out of jail

Maybe they were preparing to celebrate Swiss Independence Day (Aug 14).

re: #92 Luigi

It was a few months ago, but one of the major news-sites up here in Canada featured a crime story out of Toronto. The suspects were described as 'non-white'.

I wanted to send the reporters and police officers a colour chart and ask if they could narrow things down a bit more. Infuriating.

re: #133 Beagle

Once again proving the theory: we should profile the name Mohammed (and the alternate spellings). I can't remember the last time a plot didn't involve at least one.

Not a bad idea. Given our past experience with threats to national security, I believe we should extend that list to include the names Hussain and Clinton...

re: #133 Beagle

Once again proving the theory: we should profile the name Mohammed (and the alternate spellings). I can't remember the last time a plot didn't involve at least one.

Let's add Megahed to that list too.

re: #141 meMarc

re: #132 meMarc

Yousef Megahed and Ahmed Mohamed.

Sounds Amish to me.

Here they are getting pulled over by the police.

LOL

re: #114 kansas

re: #113 ornery elephant

Thanks. I always wonder how someone so rich and so pretty can be so stupid.

He's never read a book by Hayek or Mises or Friedman, and he never will. He's not just stupid ... he's destructive.

re: #130 NoSubmission

Nice job by the South Carolina Highway Patrol, btw!

To be a fly on the door of that Trooper's patrol cruiser! I'm guess it went something like this:

SC Trooper (chaw of chewing tobacco prominent in left cheek): Holy cow boys! You got enough tnt and gadgets in that trunk to blow half the state to kingdom come! I don't suppose you got a reason for that all being in your possession, now do ya?

Megahed (fumbling through papers in glove box): Just a minute....Ahmed! Ahmed! where is that phone # for Ibrahim Hooper?!

SC Trooper: Tell you what son. Your Mr. Hooper isn't gonna get you out of this little mess and if I were you, before your attorney does get here, I'd hide that bag of pork rinds you got there in the back seat.

re: #144 Canadian Infidel

You don't want make them non whites mad

re: #115 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

From your link:

Some 3,000 Christians live in the Gaza Strip. Following the Hamas takeover of the Strip, many of them have expressed their desire to leave.

lol. Well that's one way of putting. Another way is the Christians want to get the heck out of Dodge.

CBS affiliate video

Thanos-

in the vehicle which was in close proximity to a US Naval facility, international airport, and appeared to be headed in the general direction of I 95

They were arrested about 50 miles from I-95. If they were on their way to DC they were hopelessly lost. The road they were on is a short cut between US 17 A (Main St. through Summerville) and HW 176 (St James Ave through Goose Creek). Meyers Rd has some houses and apartments and lots of woods, there really isn't much of anything out that way [IIRC an industrial plant is out that way] . They could have been trying to get to US 52 then to US 17N to get at least in the right direction, but it would have been easier to drive west on US 17A to get to I 95.

Those guys will probably get deported tomorrow and it will be what story?

21-year-old Yousef Megahed and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed were pulled over Saturday evening during a routine traffic stop near Myers Road and Highway 176. Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers. Few details about the suspects are known at this time. They are believed to be students at a Florida college. They are of Middle Eastern descent and are not US citizens.

Hello - Hello Is anyone there?

Wake Up!

re: #139 LSD

What are two foreigners doing with explosives, igniters, and fusers, in America?

Exercising CAIR's version of "Constitutional Rights".

re: #153 Lioness

Sounds like a couple of youths.

re: #129 Thanos

Investigators said Alnazli had recently been treated for mental problems.

"treated" ...how do you treat for that stuff though?

re: #149 ornery elephant

SC Trooper (chaw of chewing tobacco prominent in left cheek): Holy cow boys! You got enough tnt and gadgets in that trunk to blow half the state to kingdom come! I don't suppose you got a reason for that all being in your possession, now do ya?

Now I called the Red Cross because we are gonna give you a South Carolina shake down.

Pulls out baton.

Now bend over and drop those Burka looking pants.

re: #144 Canadian Infidel

You don't want make them non whites mad

When they're always mad, the impact wears off...

re: #146 Killgore Trout

I can't quote the source, but someone commented, if you ever turn on the news and some really crazy sh! is going down, you can bet that someone involved is named Mohammed.

Has the seething started yet? Rage-boy coming to South Carolina? Pelosi condemned their incarceration?

"Megahed" is an Egyptian surname, similar in meaning to "Mujahad" as in "Mujahadeen".

Here in DC there is a limo company called "Megaheds" named after the Egyptian-born owner.

re: #137 Killgore Trout

They are believed to be students at a Florida college.

I'll bet it's the University of South Florida. Home of Sami Al Arian and also the home of some Holy Land Foundation defendants.

WOW...very good guess!

Looky here:

American Society of Mechanical Engineers at the University of South Florida

Corresponding Secretary:
Youssef Megahed

re: #132 meMarc

Yousef Megahed and Ahmed Mohamed.

Sounds Amish to me.

Yes, they were from the Egyptian and Saudi Amish Churches... :)

Doing a quick riffle through a search for "megahed" on google turned up mostly Saudi hits, with some in Egypt.

Hopefully the news vacuum means they gleaned valuable info and are acting on it. Good job local law enforcement! Put all the money you want into homeland security and the war will be won by hard working, boots on the ground local P.D.

Middle Eastern descent

de-scent –noun
1. the act, process, or fact of descending.
2. a downward inclination or slope.

Number two, Alex.

re: #162 NJDhockeyfan

re: #137 Killgore Trout

They are believed to be students at a Florida college.

I'll bet it's the University of South Florida. Home of Sami Al Arian and also the home of some Holy Land Foundation defendants.

WOW...very good guess!

Looky here:

American Society of Mechanical Engineers at the University of South Florida

Corresponding Secretary:
Youssef Megahed

I emailed that to Charles, interesting find there.

re: #140 retentionguy

I live here in Goose Creek, SC, and it's funny to see how the media played this out last night. All they would say was the suspects were, "not white or black" so that only leaves one other race--HISPANIC! It's got to be! No one mentioned middle-eastern at all! I'm glad now more details have come out. You could tell the newscasters wanted to say middle-eastern, but were afraid to come out with it.

Mexicans with fireworks!

Arriba!

re: #140 retentionguy

I live here in Goose Creek, SC, and it's funny to see how the media played this out last night. All they would say was the suspects were, "not white or black" so that only leaves one other race--HISPANIC! It's got to be! No one mentioned middle-eastern at all! I'm glad now more details have come out. You could tell the newscasters wanted to say middle-eastern, but were afraid to come out with it.

Middle Eastern Descent Mexicans with fireworks stuffed in pinatas!

Ole'

re: #162 NJDhockeyfan
WOW...very good guess!

Looky here:

American Society of Mechanical Engineers at the University of South Florida

Corresponding Secretary:
Youssef Megahed

Good Work
Lizard CIA.

In Atlanta, the local media quit giving out the race in the description of the perp two decades ago. No reason was given but we have learned as the Soviets did that you can read between the lines and figure out whats going on. Lately it hasn't been a big issue as they normally will give out the name of the suspect. And generally you can figure out the race from that. Of course 90 percent of the suspects names are afro-centric and you can make your own conclusions from that. Still it is infuriating to get a description the excludes race. It is impossible to ID suspects with the description of male, 6 foot 1, 220 pounds. The American news media: Pravda would be proud!

re: #140 retentionguy

I live here in Goose Creek, SC, and it's funny to see how the media played this out last night. All they would say was the suspects were, "not white or black" so that only leaves one other race--HISPANIC! It's got to be! No one mentioned middle-eastern at all! I'm glad now more details have come out. You could tell the newscasters wanted to say middle-eastern, but were afraid to come out with it.

They get special treatment beyond any other group of people while complaining about being treated unfairly more than any other group of people. Islam is Squeaky Wheel Theory writ large.

re: #168 Ginn

Middle Eastern Descent Mexicans with fireworks stuffed in pinatas!

The old exploding pinata ploy.

Birthday party with fusers.

this thread is Cognito coverup worthy...

When a denial of terrorism is issued immediately by the media it means "Oh No, another attempt at terrorism. How will we convince the voters the war on terror is a bumper sticker if this gets out?"
Sort of like when the Clinton admin was mighty quick to cover-up rule out any connection between Iraq and the OKC bombing.

Is it too much to ask of our Homeland Security to come out and make a statement?

What's the point of having those "Terrorist" Alert levels? Why make everyone guess as to what is occurring?

This is a failure of our government. They ask us to be alert but then they won't even bother to assuage our fears when something suspicious such as this happens.

Thanks for keeping us in the dark, Homeland Security. If this is nothing, then tell us. We can handle the truth.

re: #162 NJDhockeyfan
WOW...very good guess!
Looky here:
American Society of Mechanical Engineers at the University of South Florida

Too bad his photo isn't up.

re: #176 Ginn

did you hear Glenn Becks interview with POTUS?

a whole thread should be devoted to this!

re: #17 Pullus Iulius

there arent that many left in the state,.....

Nah, they were buying fireworks for THEIR Sept 11th celebration.

(Just being sarcastic and showing their mentality)

Fireworks is not that big of a deal in the south. You might possibly get a citation if you keep blowing them off after the cops have told you to quit. But I have never heard of anyone being arrested for fireworks down here. As far as using the gun-powder of fireworks for an IED, this is extremely inefficient. By law fire-crackers are limited to 50 milligrams per round. M-80's have been outlawed for nearly half a century. If you want black powder all you have to do is walk into a gun-shop and buy it. Nowadays they will probably record your name. That my be the show-stopper for terrorists. Still, it is not that difficult to mix fertilizer and diesel fuel. I no longer trust our law-enforcement officials to gives the truth in these incidents. The SLC mall shooting is a perfect example of this.

Does it seem that these types of incidences have been more prevalent in the last 6 months?
And it seems more like a bunch of disconnected half wits than hard core terrorists.

Not denied as terrorism by either Homeland Security or the FBI as yet.

In the vicinity of a US military installation.

CNN reported the two Muslims, who are not US citizens, will be formally charged Monday evening.

If you click on the e-mail link for Megahead at the Engineering webpage noted in #169 above, his page is defunct. The other e-mail links to other officers of the engineering society seem to work. So has some one already shut down Mr. Megahed's e-mail? Hmmmmmm.

re: #187 AmericanGirl

If you click on the e-mail link for Megahead at the Engineering webpage noted in #169 above, his page is defunct. The other e-mail links to other officers of the engineering society seem to work. So has some one already shut down Mr. Megahed's e-mail? Hmmmmmm.

I question the timing.

re: #112 Liljekonvalj

Goose Creek - Two men are being held in the Berkeley County Detention Center after police find explosive making devices in their car. The men 21-year-old Yousef Megahed and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed were pulled over Saturday evening during a routine traffic stop near Myers Road and Highway 176. Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers. Few details about the suspects are known at this time. They are believed to be students at a Florida college. They are of Middle Eastern descent and are not US citizens. Neither man has been charged, but charges are expected Monday. A press conference will be held at the Berkeley County Sheriff's office Monday at 11:30 in the morning. Among the potential charges is possession of unlawful explosives. Officials are not at this time releasing any additional information on the number of charges or types of explosive devices they found.
[Link: www.abcnews4.com...]

I can't believe it! Is the MSM learning to report the news again? Did lgf finally force them to do this?

Slightly OT: "two men of Middle Eastern descent"
Why does the British press call these guys "Asian?" That bugs the hell out of me. Asians are Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc., etc. I guess to the geography-challenged British anything east of Europe is Asian?

I can`t see anything about this on the CNN home page, nor on Fox News home page for that matter. Both have the story about the snake shooting gone tragically wrong. Guess we know where the priorities lie...

re: #188 NJDhockeyfan

re: #187 AmericanGirl

If you click on the e-mail link for Megahead at the Engineering webpage noted in #169 above, his page is defunct. The other e-mail links to other officers of the engineering society seem to work. So has some one already shut down Mr. Megahed's e-mail? Hmmmmmm.

I question the timing.

You and me both!

I'm sure glad those gendarmes didn't waste any time and detonated those explosives before fricken breakfast! Like, maybe some people might've wanted to sleep a little longer...

You see, I begin to doubt that our mainstream press really wishes to be all that free when they omit information. They only want it free to their agenda.

Hey press, here is an idea, how about YOU tell me the info and I'll be the one to decipher what it means to myself, my family, and my community.

Sound good?

NJDhocheyfan
from your link
Activities Chairman:
Bader Alosaimi

What fun this guy must be. Strip clubs and synagogue defacing.

re: #189 starbird

The British call Muslims "Asian" the same reason they call an apartment a "flat." Just cus. But it's a code word.

re: #189 starbird

re: #112 Liljekonvalj

Slightly OT: "two men of Middle Eastern descent"
Why does the British press call these guys "Asian?" That bugs the hell out of me. Asians are Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc., etc. I guess to the geography-challenged British anything east of Europe is Asian?

The whole continent east of Europe is technically Asia. Old maps used to split them into Asia Minor (middle east) and Asia Major (India on east). You can find mongol descendants all they way to the 'stan countries.

re: #189 starbird

re: #112 Liljekonvalj

Goose Creek - Two men are being held in the Berkeley County Detention Center after police find explosive making devices in their car. The men 21-year-old Yousef Megahed and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed were pulled over Saturday evening during a routine traffic stop near Myers Road and Highway 176. Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers. Few details about the suspects are known at this time. They are believed to be students at a Florida college. They are of Middle Eastern descent and are not US citizens. Neither man has been charged, but charges are expected Monday. A press conference will be held at the Berkeley County Sheriff's office Monday at 11:30 in the morning. Among the potential charges is possession of unlawful explosives. Officials are not at this time releasing any additional information on the number of charges or types of explosive devices they found.
[Link: www.abcnews4.com...]

I can't believe it! Is the MSM learning to report the news again? Did lgf finally force them to do this?

Slightly OT: "two men of Middle Eastern descent"
Why does the British press call these guys "Asian?" That bugs the hell out of me. Asians are Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, etc., etc. I guess to the geography-challenged British anything east of Europe is Asian?

India, the Kashmir, Pakistan, Bangladesh -- all officially part of Asia, and the part of Asia the Brits are most familiar with. Sometimes the area is called "the Subcontinent" but it's not part of the middle east.

Here is some information on fusers. But, “igniters and fusers” could arm a verity of munitions.

...The mines can be buried after the lane is closed. Upon completing the arming operation, fusers give the safety clips to the NCO, who verifies that all the mines have been armed and camouflaged. The NCO checks the strip and ensures that sandbags, tape, and debris have been picked up. The NCO gives the safety clips to the PSG, who buries them 30 centimeters to the rear of the beginning-of-strip marker.

See: Global Security

re: #132 meMarc

Yousef Megahed and Ahmed Mohamed.

Sounds Amish to me.

I KNEW there was a Mohamed!

re: #183 LoFlyer

Fireworks is not that big of a deal in the south. You might possibly get a citation if you keep blowing them off after the cops have told you to quit. But I have never heard of anyone being arrested for fireworks down here. As far as using the gun-powder of fireworks for an IED, this is extremely inefficient. By law fire-crackers are limited to 50 milligrams per round. M-80's have been outlawed for nearly half a century. If you want black powder all you have to do is walk into a gun-shop and buy it. Nowadays they will probably record your name. That my be the show-stopper for terrorists. Still, it is not that difficult to mix fertilizer and diesel fuel. I no longer trust our law-enforcement officials to gives the truth in these incidents. The SLC mall shooting is a perfect example of this.

If the stuff in the trunk was stable, Why blow up evidence? Hmmmm.

Could it be it was ready to go off?

re: #197 Thanos

The few English I know use Asian to refer the Indian Subcontinent and environs, Oriental for Chinese etc, and Mid Eastern for Arabs.

2 points:

First, the "routine traffic stop" wasn't so routine as law enforcement had been "tipped" from "another jurisdiction" to be on the lookout.

Second, NSW is the home of the brig that has held enemy combatants but I don't think that is the attraction.

I posted this last night from the NSW website info pages:

Brief History: Commissioned in 1941, the Station had two distinct missions: as home for two strategic submarine squadrons and a tender, and as an ordnance station with capacity for more than 60 million pounds conventional ordnance. The ordnance mission continues today, and Naval Weapons Station Charleston is the only military installation in the continental U.S. with completely unencumbered explosive safety arcs.

The Weapons Station has expanded its mission and DoD support role, and today is a training center, with the Naval Nuclear Power Training Command, Nuclear Power Training Unit, an engineering center with the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center and nearby Southern Division, Naval Facilities Engineering Command; and as the Army logistics hub, the busiest CONUS surface port in the defense transportation system.

From the Fact File: Naval Weapons Station Charleston encompasses more than 17,000 acres of land with 10,000 acres of forest and wetlands, 16-plus miles of waterfront, four deep water piers, 38.2 miles of railroad and 292 miles of road. With its integrated rail head, surge mobilization capability and the only unencumbered explosives arcs in the continental U.S., Naval Weapons Station Charleston is truly a unique national defense asset.

My husband was stationed there as the Dockmaster for 3 years and it is also the home to the floating drydock where our nuclear subs sneak in up the Cooper River when they need repairs. In addition to all that conventional ordinance which if exploded would probably blow S.C. right off the map, it also stores nuke warheads that are carried on our subs.

re: #200 ibmkeyboard

They might have had mercury fulminate igniters. Not great on the stability scale.

re: #189 starbird

like Glenn Beck said....stuff they don't want you to know

I think the university might be University of Southern Florida in Tampa.

Damn Mennonites.

re: #203 David E

re: #200 ibmkeyboard

They might have had mercury fulminate igniters. Not great on the stability scale.

And if it was mercury fulminate igniters,

Car Bomb.

re: #207 ibmkeyboard

It will be interesting to see the rental papers.

And since someone asked what "unencumbered explosive arcs" are, I looked it up and found this:

Here is what the page about Hawaiian ports has to say:

“Explosive arc” is a term for the use of the quantity-distance (Q/D) separation for a given Net Explosive Weight (N.E.W.) as a radius in order to plot Q/D separation on a chart.

This is done in order to assess the risk to life and property posed by a given explosive handling operation, and is a fundamental part of the permit approval process.

Q/D separation is figured using the following formula:  D=KW%u2153 where D = distance, K = 24, W = net explosive weight N.E.W. (lbs.).  “K” is the symbol for a factor of acceptable risk, or safety.  There are many different “K” factors for computing safety zones for various explosives and other hazmats under various conditions.

It is important to note that this distance should be used as minimum guideline.  Separation distances are not absolute safe distances but rather are relative safe or protective distances, and greater distances should be used whenever practicable.

The separation distances (Q/D) below were measured from the point where the explosives/ammunition are to be handled to inhabited buildings, public highway routes, or sensitive areas, such as large oil storage tanks.

So, if I read that right, an unencumbered explosive arc means there are no restrictions on weight, meaning there are some mighty powerful bombs around NSW.

re: #104 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #89 Thanos
Here you go.....of course it's just hearsay:

Posted by billyoblog on August 5, 2007 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't get it. It seems to be a virtual news vacuum about this story. From what I've been able to piece together, this is what (I think) we know. 2 middle eastern men riding in a car that appears to be a rental with Florida plates were stopped for 10 hours on a US highway while the RED CROSS set up shop, then arrested while the bomb squad blew up 'illegal' explosives contained in the vehicle which was in close proximity to a US Naval facility, international airport, and appeared to be headed in the general direction of I 95 which after a cursory map inspection seems to be a bee line to DC.

The MSM version has been reduced to 2 guys were arrested after police destroyed a 'device' in South Carolina.

Am I missing something here? If I was a local journalist, I'd be all over this one.

Where did the assumption that these fellas were driving north from Florida to DC come from?

Having driven from FL thru the DC area to the NE many, many times over 30 years, I can't recall ever having to detour off of I95 in that area.

If these ME boys were travelling from FL to DC, and they were stopped by local police in the area displayed on the map provided in Michelle Malkins post, they weren't simply taking a potty break. Like you, I'd be real curious to learn about the reason for their interest in Goose Creek. The North/South corridor of I-95 doesn't even show up on that map. Neither does US 1.

For those not familiar with the eastern corridor's famous tourist trap known as South of the Border . . .here's a link that describes it.

#55 Thanos:

Another story on the explosives, it appears there was a tip from “another jurisdiction”, even though the stop was made for speeding.

I would assume that means that when they were pulled over and the officer ran their license, they were flagged in some way -- warrants or, more likely in this case, they were already being watched. The news blackout may be an attempt to coordinate with the aforementioned other jurisdiction to raid another location or round up other suspects. So even though the media aren't doing a good job here (except for Shantel Middleton), it may be partially because they are receiving little information from LE.

re: #208 David E

re: #207 ibmkeyboard

It will be interesting to see the rental papers.

Subd. 2. A No. 8 test blasting cap is a blasting cap containing two grams of a mixture of 80% mercury fulminate and 20% potassium chlorate, or a cap of equivalent strength.
C-4 was very stable, but the blasting caps would blow the cigarettes out of your pockets.

too bad it didn't go off while they were having prayers in the back seat.

re: #211 doppelganglander

attempt to coordinate with the aforementioned other jurisdiction to raid another location or round up other suspects. So even though the media aren't doing a good job here (except for Shantel Middleton), it may be partially because they are receiving little information from LE.

The old we bring the blasting caps and you bring the bomb ploy.

Islamic 4th of July celebration in Washington in September.

re: #212 ibmkeyboard

Just so.

re: #210 justamomof4
I'm sure you're right. I'm also curious as to why they were near that base and would love to know if the Red Cross really did set up.

Route 176 in Goose Creek where they were stopped, deadends at the base gate. I cannot think of any reason they would be on that stretch of highway other than going to the base, unless they just happened to be visiting someone in Goose Creek, which would be even more interesting.

I bet Mr. Mohamed had a little trouble getting around since another guy with the same name was on the FBI Most Wanted List.

Their car was headed West (away) from the base at the time.

re: #217 faraway
I see you're out searching the net, too.

re: #162 NJDhockeyfan
WOW...very good guess!

Looky here:

American Society of Mechanical Engineers at the University of South Florida

Corresponding Secretary:
Youssef Megahed

Now, this is why I come here. C...o...n...n...e...c...t...i...n...g... the...dots!
Great find!

re: #218 faraway

Their car was headed West (away) from the base at the time.

So they... turned around before they got the base? The road dead ends at the base.

I know. It was sheer coincidence. They were lost.

Their car was headed West (away) from the base at the time.

Well then let me revise, going to or coming from the base. They sure wouldn't be there as part of a route from Florida to DC on I-95. I guess we'll have to wait for the press conference in the morning.

re: #121 Thanos

Sorry for the late reply, but you are welcome :)

Let's see...

1. They were headed away from a base with lots of explosives.

2. Their car had explosives in the trunk.

Hmm...

re: #217 faraway

I bet Mr. Mohamed had a little trouble getting around since another guy with the same name was on the FBI Most Wanted List.

Older Guy with same name/alias

The only thing is, that name is sort of like John Smith or Hiroshi Sato.

re: #220 justamomof4

re: #162 NJDhockeyfan
WOW...very good guess!

Looky here:

American Society of Mechanical Engineers at the University of South Florida

Corresponding Secretary:
Youssef Megahed

Now, this is why I come here. C...o...n...n...e...c...t...i...n...g... the...dots!
Great find!

I didn't want to point directly to him, because we don't know for sure yet. That's why I just mentioned the univeristy, not this particular guy. It is, however, not a common name. And USF does NOT surprise me at all.

Looky here:

American Society of Mechanical Engineers at the University of South Florida

Corresponding Secretary:
Youssef Megahed

Hmmmm. And on the base we have:

The Weapons Station has expanded its mission and DoD support role, and today is a training center, with the Naval Nuclear Power Training Command, Nuclear Power Training Unit, an engineering center with the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center and nearby Southern Division, Naval Facilities Engineering Command; and as the Army logistics hub, the busiest CONUS surface port in the defense transportation system.

re: #226 Catttt
The spelling of his first name is a little off, too. Still, very interesting. So many of these types seem to study engineering.

re: #224 faraway

Let's see...

1. They were headed away from a base with lots of explosives.

2. Their car had explosives in the trunk.

Hmm...

I know! They found the explosives in a ditch by the side of road. Being good Samaritans they were on their way to the nearest police station to turn them in.

abcnews4.com says they had a ready-to-go bomb and some chemicals in the car.

Lively-

RichatUF are you still around? My kid goes to school there, too.

I'm still around. I haven't been posting much recently and am currently in the middle of a move. Hope you child's studies go well.

My guess is that the other jurisdiction mentioned is the Naval base where the two [bigoted word]s might have attempted to enter but were denied entry by the guards there. Gotta think the guards raised a red flag on these guys and the SC state cops picked up on it. Sounds like another Fort Dix probe.

re: #48 mom's no dhimmi

#45 -
Watch it, don't dis the grits.

Amen! Where're you, mom...?

/Tennessee

re: #232 captain joe

Maybe.

Why did they have explosives in the car? Why probe with explosives in the car?

The mug shots reveal they were not shaved. So, were they ready to meet the virgins?

re: #57 Pullus Iulius

re: #48 mom's no dhimmi

#45 -
Watch it, don't dis the grits.

But at the jihad diner, you can't get 'em with black-eye gravy.

That's red-eye gravy! You want black-eye something, it's gotta be peas! With onions.

/Sheesh... apparent yankees, pretending to know all about southern culinary delights!

If these two people were white christians on their way to an abortion clinic, the dinosaur media would have been on the story like a hawk.
I pray for the day when "media outlets" such as the new york times,la times, cnn,cnbc,abc,cbs would go out of business.
The title of the press release should have been:
TWO MURDEROUS MUSLIMS ON THEIR WAY TO BLOW UP TARGETS IN SC.

Who do we think we are, white-christian- imperialist-american-infidels,do deny these two people their birth rights to blow us up,according to the teachings of the koran?!
This is racial discrimination, religious profiling and bigotism.
I expect a law suit from CAIR and the ACLU.

faraway, do you have a link to the mugshots?

Youssef Megahed is also Secretary of ASHRAE @ USF.

re: #77 Carol Herman

Just another example of the MSM no longer even being a transcient point between information, and the audiences.

Me? When the bridge just collapsed in Minnesota, I did all my news searching on the Internet.

I even heard about the two dudes, supposedly disguised as Puerto Ricans. On the Net. This morning.

That the police/FBI, whatever, won't talk to the media; nothing new here, folks. They're as frustrated with the media as so many of us, are.

Separate from the arm that comes out funded to talk about the "religion of peace," and "no terrorism." What credibility does it all have?

Even Glasgow, I watched it totally on the Net.

So it seems the one area where the MSM thought they had a lock; that's gone, now, too.

By the way, you'll notice how FACTS do trump.

When it became obvious that the St. Anthony's Bridge in Minneapolis fell down through wear and tear. And, that maintenance had not uncovered its growing flaws, I think that's the way we do find out when something's "not terrorism." And, people let it go.

Oh, Carol....don't stop there! This is news to me! --do you have any more....? ):

Just saw their pics, names (at least one's name starts with "M", and it's not Morton) and that they had a bomb and bomb-making material in the car....on CNN. Why nothing on drudge, FoxNews, etc.?

re: #238 pal2pal

faraway, do you have a link to the mugshots?

re: #228 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #226 Catttt
The spelling of his first name is a little off, too. Still, very interesting. So many of these types seem to study engineering.

That particular guy's full name is Youssef Samir Megahed. While it's an uncommon name, again - this guy could be someone else, so I'm not linking other info I found.

And yeah, the fact that he's studying mechanical engineering makes me go aha more than if he were studying ballet.

Ahmed Mohamed

There's an Amna Mohamed @ USF.

Originally from Guyana, South America

re: #242 faraway

I was hoping to see those mug shots but I get a 404 page not found when I click on the link...do others have better luck?

Thanks faraway. For some reason, I cannot get the videos from abcnews4 to play. I don't know why.

At this link here

Click on the eVideo link and go to about 22 seconds into the report...mug shots there

re: #247 RichatUF

thanks - that link works for me:)

re: #247 RichatUF

re: #44 Luigi

two men of Middle Eastern descent.

That only slipped past the censors because the event occurred off-hours and was covered by non-big city press.

These days the American public is not trusted with this sort of information because we might just form opinions which are politically incorrect.

It was only a few years ago the names and descriptions of perps or suspects was released to the press immediately. How quickly we have become desensitized to not knowing these things. It is because the press is compliant in restraining this information.

The press would move heaven and earth to uncover or speculate upon the names of persons they do not like. That's what leaks are for. But leaks need not apply where protected groups are concerned. Why, next thing you know the American people might wake up and realize they are in the middle of a war -- and vote accordingly. The press will not be complicit in anything like that.

But doesn't the MSM rationalize publishing top secret anti-terrorism documents/programs in the NYT's and CNN by touting The Public's Right To Know? Now suddenly we can't be trusted with certain "sensitive" information like the names and descriptions of perps or suspects?
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Sorry about the link, but I cant use the LGF link feature with IE7 for some reason. Plus, when you manually create a link it adds an extra "%22" at the end.

They are both not U.S. citizens, both named Mohammad (there's probably the Islamic connection), in possession of a bomb and bomb making materials, etc. etc. That's enough for me to conclude 99% sure that this is more than likely connected to Islamic Terrorism.
And all that info was from CNN.

Power to the Correct People!

JAMEL AHMED MOHAMMED ALI AL-BADAWI

Jamel Ahmed Mohammed Ali Al-Badawi is wanted in connection with the October 12, 2000, bombing of the USS Cole in Aden, Yemen.

Other people have said the name ahmed mohamed is as common as john smith.

It seems unusual to me that both of these guys are smiling for their mugshots. Who do they think they are - Paris Hilton?

And yet at the bottom of the video link it says:

No Link to Terrorism Authorities find explosive making devices during a routine traffic stop. FBI believes there is no terrorism link. The suspects have been named, and their mugshots made available.

I guess walking like a duck, and quacking like a duck, doesn't mean it's a duck.

re: #252 Terp Mole

21 - 7 = 14

24 - 7 = 17

Ya think..... ?

What was AP's headline for 9/11?
"Amateur pilots have spate of mishaps in one day"

I'd wait to see what the indictments say because Arabic names are notorious for multiple spellings and rearrangement. It is also possble that they had fake student ID's. I found it odd that they had the beard but the upper lip was shaved (heard something about that before).

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abcnews4.com just changed their headline from :
Atleast One Ready to go Bomb and Chemicals Found in Car
to
No Link to terrorism

re: #11 Li'l Mamzer

Hoping against hope that Dougie Hooper was driving, with Nihad Awad riding shotgun.

And CAIR/HAMAS owned the car.

I can't believe they changed the headline that fast. Really trying to shove this thing down the memory hole

re: #262 RichatUF

It took about one hour.

Anybody else read the first comment over at ABC4 regarding the insurgents writing "Kill The Claw" on the walls. The claw is pretty scary looking and apparently made in South Carolina.

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