Garbage in...garbage out.

I still can't figure out how they outed him.

Such a tricky pseudonym.

And here I thought the TNR folks were on vacation....they musta come back early to defend Beauchamp some more.

Scott who?

Lousy inaccurate, misleading journalism from the MSM? Not on our watch...well not today anyway....well, um not until we get caught again.

The intertubes sure makes it harder to get away with lies. Thank you, Al Gore for your nifty invention.

anyone wanna learn Islamic English

[Link: www.politicallyincorrect.de...]

He's now an unperson. How quaint.

Hey TNR, you can store the piece over there with Adnan Hajj's pictures, Dan Rather's memos, and the cue cards saying, "I did not have sex with that woman."

shocking !

I would like to nominate the New Republic for the first annual "Dan Rather Excellence In Reporting" Award.

Still there under the "Scott Thomas" bio:

http://www.tnr.com/showBio.mhtml?pid=1034&sa=1

Shocked, yes shocked am I!

Man I love using one Crappolla site to expose another.

From Wikki on TRN:

Stephen Glass scandal
In 1998, features writer Stephen Glass was revealed in a Forbes magazine investigation to have fabricated a story called "Hack Heaven". A TNR investigation found that most of Glass' stories had used or been based on fabricated information. The story of Glass's fall and TNR editor Chuck Lane's handling of the scandal was dramatized in a 2003 film Shattered Glass, based on a 1998 article in Vanity Fair.[16]

In 2006, associate editor Spencer Ackerman was fired by Foer. Describing it as a "painful" decision, Foer attributed the firing to Ackerman's "insubordination": disparaging the magazine on his personal blog,[22] saying that he would “skullfuck” a terrorist's corpse at an editorial meeting if that was required to "establish his anti-terrorist bona fides" and sending Foer an e-mail where he said—in what according to Ackerman was intended to be a joke—he would “make a niche in your skull” with a baseball bat. Ackerman, by contrast, argued that the dismissal was due to “irreconcilable ideological differences.”

Even though they're on vacation, if you go to The New Republic's website, you'll see that they're posting blog entries today, ignoring the dead body stinking up their house.

They done been PWND.

OT~

Posted without further comment:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

~Norsk Troll

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

What Wikki has to say about Beauchamp:

In July 2007, after The New Republic published an article by an American soldier in Iraq titled "Shock Troops," allegations of inadequate fact-checking were leveled against the magazine. Critics alleged that the piece contained inconsistent details indicative of fabrication. The identity of the anonymous soldier, Scott Thomas Beauchamp, was revealed. As a result of the controversy, the New Republic and the United States Army launched investigations.[24][25][26]
On August 2, 2007, The New Republic issued a statement backing the stories, but corrected the location of one event described by Beauchamp from Iraq to Kuwait. In the statement, editors for The New Republic also noted that the Army had "short-circuited" the magazine's investigation by disrupting communication with Beauchamp.[27][28] On August 6, 2007, the Weekly Standard reported that Beauchamp recanted the allegations raised in the "Shock Troops" articles

sort of on topic...

[Link: www.attackcartoons.com...]

watched shattered glass a while ago. all the editors were portrayed as terrified that the scandal would be the end of the magazine. well, what does it take? how many more debacles before they pack it in?

re: #11 Lone_Oregon_Conservative

Second!

Another electrifying TNR story down the wormhole of leftist revisionism. If Hillary is elected Pres, the story will be resurrected as fact.

Is asking TNR to apologize for Scott Beauchamp’s lies asking to much?

re: #6 liege

The intertubes sure makes it harder to get away with lies. Thank you, Al Gore for your nifty invention.

Saw on Bumpersticker:

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, but he did invent Global Warming

Of course they didn't say anything about their jerking the article. They're embarassed.

re: #14 Ginn

I have some advice for TNR: Those who live in 'Glass' houses shouldn't be throwing any stones. You'd think they woulda learned.

Oh, and if they regretted it, they would apologize.

with how far up the line this story went it wouldn't surprise me if they were told to remove it.

re: #8 Iron Fist

He's now an unperson. How quaint.

correction my friend: He is now an unperson doing punitive duty for Uncle Sugar, and that, is justice: the justice that TNR won't write about!

anyone else not able to get to the tnr website?

This just can't be our Andy Sullivan?

In 1990, Andrew Sullivan, a 28-year-old gay Catholic from Britain, became editor and took the magazine in a somewhat more conservative direction, though the majority of writers remained liberal or neoliberal. Hertzberg soon left the magazine to return to The New Yorker. Kinsley left the magazine in 1996 to found the online magazine Slate.[5]

Sullivan invited Charles Murray to contribute a controversial 10,000-word article that contended blacks may be, as a whole, less intelligent than whites due to genetics.

Ruth Shalit, a young writer for the magazine in the Sullivan years, was repeatedly criticized for plaigarism. To fact-check her stories, Sullivan called on Stephen Glass, who later was found to have made up quotes, anecdotes and facts in his articles

re: #16 EtNorskTroll

OT~

Posted without further comment:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

~Norsk Troll

Your heart goes out to the man.

Honest media publishes a correction.

'nuf said.

re: #31 bosforus

anyone else not able to get to the tnr website?

my firewall has a fake news filter, so I can't access it.

Okay, here's my question? How has TRN survived this long?

re: #30 paxnhymn

re: #8 Iron Fist

He's now an unperson. How quaint.

correction
my friend: He is now an unperson doing punitive duty for Uncle Sugar,
and that, is justice: the justice that TNR won't write about!

I love how you think!

{Pax}

Mmmmmwaaaaah!

Dr Sanity has a poem on topic today. Beauchamp at the bat,

The Outlook was quite brilliant for The New Republic rag:
The polls were in their favor, and the public will had sagged.
But when Bush didn't falter, as Petraeus led the surge,
A sickly silence fell upon those moonbats on the verge.

more at:

[Link: drsanity.blogspot.com...]

re: #17 Ginn

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

What Wikki has to say about Beauchamp:

In July 2007, after The New Republic published an article by an American soldier in Iraq titled "Shock Troops," allegations of inadequate fact-checking were leveled against the magazine. Critics alleged that the piece contained inconsistent details indicative of fabrication. The identity of the anonymous soldier, Scott Thomas Beauchamp, was revealed. As a result of the controversy, the New Republic and the United States Army launched investigations.[24][25][26]
On August 2, 2007, The New Republic issued a statement backing the stories, but corrected the location of one event described by Beauchamp from Iraq to Kuwait. In the statement, editors for The New Republic also noted that the Army had "short-circuited" the magazine's investigation by disrupting communication with Beauchamp.[27][28] On August 6, 2007, the Weekly Standard reported that Beauchamp recanted the allegations raised in the "Shock Troops" articles

The New Republic also noted that the Army had "short-circuited" investigation by disrupting communication with Beauchamp...All together now "aw gee whize"!

Fake but True.

/

re: #33 bikermailman

re: #16 EtNorskTroll

OT~

Posted without further comment:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

~Norsk Troll

Your heart goes out to the man.

I hope no charges are filed, extreme mitigating circumstances and all.

{loppy bunny}

Another "Fake but accurate" vampire spiked through it's cold dead heart.

"Old Media", you all keep laying down in that coffin of lies and deceit, Charles, and company will be happy to nail the lid shut.

I would say "Shame on TNR" but we all know that the "old guard" media has no shame.

Are they so stupid to think nobody copied these pages?

Once it's on the Internet, it can never go away entirely.

re: #23 MandyManners

Of course they didn't say anything about their jerking the article. They're embarassed.

Too effin' bad. Real journalists ( I know, I know) would suck it up and put up some sort of statement, with an apology to readers.

OT,

and depressing. Israel removes settlers from West Bank. This worked out so well in Gaza, they might as well do it again.

[Sigh]

If, as they say, history is the propaganda of the victors, it's kind of ironic that these losers get to revise history by "disappearing" their bogus article...

Here is a link to an interesting diary on the KOS. The author basically says that they (the left) need to try and realize the mistake in all of this. That is all good.

It gets better when people start commenting. Most of them think now it is a major cover up and Scott is the fall guy. The lunacy of the far left.

.

I’m traveling

The Lizard Master is on the Lizard Ship !
Shall we expect the Coming of the Great Lizards from the Great Void Outside ?

Repent, KOmmieSKIDS !

/I know, it is not "repent" but "metanoia" (but I don't know the imperative of metanoein)...

re: #36 Ginn

Okay, here's my question? How has TRN survived this long?

Excellent question. TNR is subsidized by a left wing owner. Another rich socialist trying to assuage his guilt.

re: #33 bikermailman

re: #16 EtNorskTroll

OT~

Posted without further comment:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

~Norsk Troll

Your heart goes out to the man.

This kind of stuff make my blood glow white hot. They could use my body for a lamp in a lighthouse right now.

I'm gong to sign off now before I get banned...

~ENT

re: #32 Ginn

This just can't be our Andy Sullivan?

In 1990, Andrew Sullivan, a 28-year-old gay Catholic from Britain, became editor and took the magazine in a somewhat more conservative direction, though the majority of writers remained liberal or neoliberal. Hertzberg soon left the magazine to return to The New Yorker. Kinsley left the magazine in 1996 to found the online magazine Slate.[5]

Sullivan invited Charles Murray to contribute a controversial 10,000-word article that contended blacks may be, as a whole, less intelligent than whites due to genetics.

Ruth Shalit, a young writer for the magazine in the Sullivan years, was repeatedly criticized for plaigarism. To fact-check her stories, Sullivan called on Stephen Glass, who later was found to have made up quotes, anecdotes and facts in his articles

Those jagoffs want to equate less intelligence for blacks as a CONSERVATIVE postion?!?

Okay, back to work for the mailman. I can't Cliffy around allll day.

I don't understand. Why just last Thursday they claimed to have rigorously fact-checked his stories and they were all corroborated by third parties.

And while we laugh.. here is an excerpt from "Shock Troops"

One private, infamous as a joker and troublemaker, found the top part of a human skull, which was almost perfectly preserved. It even had chunks of hair, which were stiff and matted down with dirt. He squealed as he placed it on his head like a crown. It was a perfect fit. As he marched around with the skull on his head, people dropped shovels and sandbags, folding in half with laughter. No one thought to tell him to stop. No one was disgusted. Me included.

The private wore the skull for the rest of the day and night. Even on a mission, he put his helmet over the skull. He observed that he was grateful his hair had just been cut—since it would make it easier to pick out the pieces of rotting flesh that were digging into his head.

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

re: #6 liege

The intertubes sure makes it harder to get away with lies. Thank you, Al Gore for your nifty invention.

And thank you, Google, for subverting your fellow lefties' attempt to hide an inconvenient truth.

And The New Republic holds itself up as a paragon of the enlightened, intellectual center-left.

It's utterly pathetic what they've become.

I bet life isn't to pleasant for Beauchump right now. His mates are probably less than pleased with how he impugned their character with made up tales of savagery just to push a political agenda.

Did bochump get njp(non-judicial punishment)? Or is the little traitor going to get a court martial and maybe a big chicken dinner? And if does get a BCD that is a felony!

re: #49 Poitiers-Lepanto

.

I’m traveling

The Lizard Master is on the Lizard Ship !
Shall we expect the Coming of the Great Lizards from the Great Void Outside ?

Repent, KOmmieSKIDS !

/I know, it is not "repent" but "metanoia" (but I don't know the imperative of metanoein)...

metanoite?

re: #53 Geepers

I know. Why the change of the heart?

:)

(Note: expect another day of sporadic posting; I’m traveling and won’t have access to the intertubes for most the day.)

Ahh, my Holmesian guesswork yesterday was right on the money: because the second-to-last post yesterday was posted at 9:29am, but he said in it that he would not be posting "for the rest of the afternoon," dropping the clue that he was in a different time zone but that the LGF system still registered his posting as being in Pacific Time.

That's why I wasn't worried -- the clues said he was travelling.

And down the memory hole it goes. Just another beautiful day, here on Airstrip Two. Now, if you'll excuse me, I gotta go. The clock's about to strike thirteen.
/

Whats new.

re: #46 Iron Fist

Hebron is not a settlement.

Jews in Hebron are not settlers.

Traveling? Another secret PJM meeting in New York?

Well, for those who missed it on the dead thread, here's an idea whose time has come.

More from "Shock Troops"

We were already halfway through our meals when she arrived. After a minute or two of eating in silence, one of my friends stabbed his spoon violently into his pile of mashed potatoes and left it there.
“Man, I can’t eat like this,” he said.
“Like what?” I said. “Chow hall food getting to you?”
“No—with that fucking freak behind us!” he exclaimed, loud enough for not only her to hear us, but everyone at the surrounding tables. I looked over at the woman, and she was intently staring into each forkful of food before it entered her half-melted mouth.
“Are you kidding? I think she’s fucking hot!” I blurted out.
“What?” said my friend, half-smiling.
“Yeah man,” I continued. “I love chicks that have been intimate—with IEDs. It really turns me on—melted skin, missing limbs, plastic noses . . . .”
“You’re crazy, man!” my friend said, doubling over with laughter. I took it as my cue to continue.
“In fact, I was thinking of getting some girls together and doing a photo shoot. Maybe for a calendar? ‘IED Babes.’ We could have them pose in thongs and bikinis on top of the hoods of their blown-up vehicles.”
My friend was practically falling out of his chair laughing. The disfigured woman slammed her cup down and ran out of the chow hall, her half-finished tray of food nearly falling to the ground.

Dear Scott:

Why?

Ginn

I'm really sorry to see TNR go over to the dark side like this. They were one of the few liberal opinion journals who "got" the danger of Jihad AND Saddam.

Actually, this took longer than I expected, yet it was inevitable.

Ex-Clinton Official Ties Minneapolis Bridge Collapse To Global Warming.

Hat tip: Rush.

re: #14 Ginn

Journalism scandals in the United States

* 2.1 Walter Duranty, The New York Times (1930s)
* 2.2 Janet Cooke, Washington Post (1980-1981)
* 2.3 "Waiting to Explode", Dateline NBC (1992)
* 2.4 The Oregonian's coverage of the Packwood scandal (1992)
* 2.5 Bob Wisehart, Sacramento Bee (1994)
* 2.6 Stephen Glass, The New Republic (1998)
* 2.7 Patricia Smith, Boston Globe (1998)
* 2.8 Operation Tailwind, CNN NewsStand (1998)
* 2.9 Mike Barnicle, Boston Globe (1998)
* 2.10 Michael Gallagher (1998)
* 2.11 Jay Forman, Slate (2001)
* 2.12 Bob Greene, Chicago Tribune (2002)
* 2.13 Christopher Newton, Associated Press (2002)
* 2.14 Houston Chronicle Light Rail Controversy (2002)
* 2.15 Brian Walski, The Los Angeles Times (2003)
* 2.16 James Forlong, Sky News (2003)
* 2.17 CNN coverage of Iraq and Eason Jordan (2003)
* 2.18 Jayson Blair, The New York Times (2003)
* 2.19 "Gropegate", The Los Angeles Times (2003)
* 2.20 Jack Kelley, USA Today (2004)
* 2.21 Stephen Dunphy, Seattle Times (2004)
* 2.22 The Oregonian's coverage of the Goldschmidt scandal (2004)
* 2.23 The Boston Globe's Fake "GI Rape" Photographs (2004)
* 2.24 The ABC News election memo (2004)
* 2.25 Carl Cameron, Fox News Channel (2004)
* 2.26 CBS News and the "Killian Documents" (2004)
* 2.27 Thom Calandra, Marketwatch.com (2005)
* 2.28 Eason Jordan, CNN (2005)
* 2.29 Fake American hostage, Associated Press (2005)
* 2.30 Eric Slater, Los Angeles Times (2005)
* 2.31 Mitch Albom, Detroit Free Press (2005)
* 2.32 Barbara Stewart, Boston Globe (2005)
* 2.33 Diana Griego Erwin, Sacramento Bee (2005)
* 2.34 Chris Cecil, Cartersville Daily News (2005)
* 2.35 The Daily Egyptian's fake orphan (2005)
* 2.36 Bush administration journalism scandals (2005)
* 2.37 Jim Van Vliet, Sacramento Bee (2005)
* 2.38 Nada Behziz, The Bakersfield Californian (2005)
* 2.39 Tim Ryan, Honolulu Star-Bulletin (2006)
* 2.40 Hassan Fattah, New York Times' Abu Ghraib photos (2006)
* 2.41 Michael Hiltzik, The Los Angeles Times (2006)
* 2.42 Paul Bradley, Richmond Times-Dispatch (2006)
* 2.43 Philip Chien, Wired News (2006)
* 2.44 Greg Mitchell, Editor & Publisher (2006)
* 2.45 Adnan Hajj, Reuters (2006)
* 2.46 Miami anti-Castro broadcasts (2006)
* 2.47 Jack Hitt and New York Times Abortion/Infanticide Article (2006)
* 2.48 Jacqueline Gonzalez, San Antonio Express News (2007)
* 2.49 Maria Bartiromo, CNBC (2007)
* 2.50 Allan Detrich, The Blade (2007)
* 2.51 "Katie Couric's Notebook," CBSNews.com (2007)

re: #49 Poitiers-Lepanto

/I know, it is not "repent" but "metanoia" (but I don't know the imperative of metanoein)...

I believe metanoein is irregular and it's imperative should be conjugated as metanoyia

Some of the better comments over at KOS regarding the recant by Scott Beauchump.

The fact that Beauchamp is a Private on active duty means that he is under military discipline and nothing he says can be trusted either way at least not completely. You have to look at the testimony of many soldiers as to the real conditions in Iraq and elsewhere in the Imperial Domains. You might look at a review in Nation Magazine of The Other War: Iraq Vets Bear Witness to start looking.

one way or the other but I would be just as quick to with hold judgement now as you (and I) were before. Pvt Beauchamp no longer has his cell phone or access to a computer and his family hasn't heard from him. TNR is being hampered by the Army in fact checking the stories. Maybe he made it up and maybe they are screwing him for telling the truth. We just don't know yet and the journalists working on it need a little time. You're right that, as liberals we need to maintain a bias for the truth. That means looking critically at what evidence we have. So far, we have very little.

Just plain crazy

When truth doesn't matter to the average stupid american, why be honest in your reporting?

half of americans are below average.
half of americans can't name one of their state senators.
most can't tell you the name of the VP.
your average progressive is suffering from BDS and is mentally ill.

so why report the truth?

Anyone else catch this little gem about the most morally bankrupted organization ever created?

U.N. employee arrested in NY over visa fraud scheme

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. authorities arrested a U.N. translator on suspicion of visa fraud on Monday, accusing him of using U.N. letterhead to bring foreigners into the United States for nonexistent conferences.

See above: the article appears to be in a sort of limbo at the site; it's still there, but does not show up in a search - the same search I used to find it previously.

re: #74 Charles

your green is extra green today.

Damage control underway at TNR. This is a big deal and if little Scotty's wife was responsible for getting the story published, her link may vanish as well.

The msm may be brushing this story under the rug, but there are so many blogs that are all over this story. They're fighting to save credibility at TNR and going on "vacation" will not allow them to sidestep the controversy.

re: #59 vxbush

I don't know, I this moment I am far from my Greek dictionary, grammars etc....

"CHANGE YOUR MIND, KOmmieSKIDS !"

/TO MYSELF: anybody can look well educated...until he has to conjugate a Greek verb...

If, "if" the TRN had any class, any class at all, they would write a piece apologizing to those they have offended, our troops serving overseas in the line of fire.

They would make an "honest" effort to rectify what has happened instead of showing cowardice through an attempt to sweep this under the rug.

I would say, "shame on you, TRN, but since evidently they have none, what would be the point?

re: #36 Ginn

Okay, here's my question? How has TRN survived this long?

Can you say cockroach,I knew you could.

re: #68 JammieWearingFool

Actually, this took longer than I expected, yet it was inevitable.

Ex-Clinton Official Ties Minneapolis Bridge Collapse To Global Warming.

Hat tip: Rush.

In the word's of one of my former NCO's

"ARE YOU SH***** ME!"

Still nothing on this at "Media Matters" They were quick to try and discredit the Weekly Standard article, but have failed to report Beauchamp's confession. Anyone surprised?

re: #68 JammieWearingFool

...and the coins keep clinking into the coffers...

Get your carbon credits here! Come one come all! (channeling circus barker)....

(sigh)

re: #69 SeafoodGumbo

re: #14 Ginn

Journalism scandals in the United States

Hey Gumbo, I noticed something about the dates. Did you?

re: #66 Ginn No one in any service that i know of would ever do anything so low as this. and if they did numerous people would have "adjusted" their attitudes damn quick and probably got a commendation letter out of it.

re: #75 Shug

re: #74 Charles

your green is extra green today.

He looks minty fresh.

re: #77 Poitiers-Lepanto

re: #59 vxbush

I don't know, I this moment I am far from my Greek dictionary, grammars etc....

"CHANGE YOUR MIND, KOmmieSKIDS !"

/TO MYSELF: anybody can look well educated...until he has to conjugate a Greek verb...

Eh, that's the truth. I have a Greek Expositor's commentary on the NT that always makes me feel like a complete idiot.

Back on topic: that list of fakery from Wikipedia is amazing, and both sides of the aisle need to look at that list closely and learn.

re: #80 Dustyvet

cold winters, however, are magnificent for steel and concrete.
and salt trucks never ever cause corrosion

plus, all those SUV's on the bridge.
if lighter, hybrid vehicles had been on the brider----no collapse!

I think that Beaupeep should be sent home and put on some duty where he has zero chance of getting hurt. Can you imagine the hue and cry that would erupt if he were to get killed in Iraq?

TNR still has their editorial statement up on the web.
[Link: www.tnr.com...]

Check the comments. Needless to say, some STB defenders are going for the option that STB falsely recanted.

#74 Charles

the article appears to be in a sort of limbo at the site

Definitely, Charles is in the Lizard Ship and he has trapped TNR in a sphere of energy, with the help of the Great Lizards from the Great Void Outside.

/I am translating for the Young Lizards...

re: #75 Shug

re: #74 Charles

your green is extra green today.

He bought carbon offsets from the Goracle to offset his travel.
/sarc

re: #88 MandyManners

I doubt he is allowed to do anything now. I am positive they would have taken him off of patrol's and other combat duty. That guy is cleaning up poop and washing dishes.

re: #69 SeafoodGumboThat comes off as a brief outline of all the journalistic malfeasance which occurs daily in this country.

Whatever the case, I'm sure Bush and global warming are responsible.

re: #88 MandyManners

I think that Beaupeep should be sent home and put on some duty where he has zero chance of getting hurt. Can you imagine the hue and cry that would erupt if he were to get killed in Iraq?

Beauchamp lied, Beauchamp died?

I suppose the "Shock Troop's" piece was TRN's attempt at showing their patriotism. Eh?

re: #69 SeafoodGumbo
I did notice that out of the 50+ scandals listed only one pointed to Fox News and it was about comments made by one of the political reporters, which he shouldn't have made. I don't know about you but that pretty much cements who you should get your news from.

re: #68 JammieWearingFool

Actually, this took longer than I expected, yet it was inevitable.

Ex-Clinton Official Ties Minneapolis Bridge Collapse To Global Warming.

Hat tip: Rush.

Was the Utah mine collapse caused by global "warming"?

Looks like a job for STINKY BEAUMONT!

-s-

The wide wide world of web aint the same without Charles around.

Who told him he could leave anyway?

I nominate TNR and/or Beauchamp/Thomas for the next round of Fiskies!

HE CAN RUN, BUT HE CAN'T HIDE.

re: #86 vxbush

re: #77 Poitiers-Lepanto

re: #59 vxbush

I don't know, I this moment I am far from my Greek dictionary, grammars etc....

"CHANGE YOUR MIND, KOmmieSKIDS !"

/TO MYSELF: anybody can look well educated...until he has to conjugate a Greek verb...

Eh, that's the truth. I have a Greek Expositor's commentary on the NT that always makes me feel like a complete idiot.

Back on topic: that list of fakery from Wikipedia is amazing, and both sides of the aisle need to look at that list closely and learn.

Hey, VX... I know who's the Fakeist? Wikki... or TRN?

More proof the left-wingers with an agenda never have to say they are sorry.

re: #54 Ginn

And while we laugh.. here is an excerpt from "Shock Troops"

Like I keep saying, his stories not only don't ring true, they are stupid.

I'm sure Beechump will be discharged in time for his keynote address at the Democrat Convention in 2008.

re: #102 Dustyvet

Eh, that's over the line, sir. You're casting a poor shadow on Charles.

I want a list of TNR advertisers. This rag is a collective lair and a fraud.

And Beauchamp needs to be taken out of the war theater now. I wouldn't have him anywhere near me on any patrol if I were a soldier.

If I'm right, he's in for more than just a an admin discharge. Scumbag.

re: #92 willtay73

Something could still happen to him. He could slip on a bar of soap and die from a brain injury and the moonbats would claim that the soap was a Rovian bar.

#86 VXBush

Eh, that's the truth. I have a Greek Expositor's commentary on the NT that always makes me feel like a complete idiot.

Those are the only books that are worth reading/studying...

I know that VERY well...

:-)

/any troll using these exchanges to call us names will be subject to "death through German quotation (from Karl Marx)".

re: #92 willtay73He'll be damn lucky if all he's doing is cleaning heads and kp duty. His nco's will have him on the worst shit details they can think up. I'm a retired e-6 navy and we can be darn inventive when it comes to dealing with problem children!

re: #102 Dustyvet

Just keep him safe.

MM,

Was the Utah mine collapse caused by global "warming"?

That was caused by global shifting.

Rove handles that.

re: #64 Ben Hur,

So the article is incorrect? Why am I not surprised? The gist of the article, i.e. forced removal of Jewish people from Hebron, is true? If so, it still seems very close to the policy in Gaza that, I think we all agree on now, was an unmitigated disaster.

re: #107 vxbush

re: #102 Dustyvet

Eh, that's over the line, sir. You're casting a poor shadow on Charles.

It may be cruel to the polar bears but I ain't so sure it was over the line.

re: #103 Ginn

Hey, VX... I know who's the Fakeist? Wikki... or TRN?

I think any of us, in our zeal, could fake stuff. It takes a great deal of intestinal fortitude and integrity to stay above these tactics.

Leftards have no honor. Thats why they have to endure humiliation after humiliation. The situation is made bearable for them because they don't understand the concept of honor, or shame, and therefore feel no honor or shame, and are thus able to repeat the same stupidity over and over.

re: #107 vxbush

re: #102 Dustyvet

Eh, that's over the line, sir. You're casting a poor shadow on Charles.

Sorry bout that...soak him in Grain and let the hampsters have him?

re: #94 Shug

The moonbats will never admit he lied.

Question: Will tnr hold a position open for beauchamp when he is discharged? I would also question whether beauchamp and tnr had a tacit agreement for him to "enlist" and then submit his articles about such actions as those his articles contained? Unable to find any such behavior, beauchamp and trn then chose to "create" the situations.

re: #83 Ginn

re: #69 SeafoodGumbo

re: #14 Ginn

Journalism scandals in the United States

Hey Gumbo, I noticed something about the dates. Did you?

That there's more recently? I think that is just because the Intranut is now there and scandals can be exposed, and that exposure can be shown quickly to a lot of people. I'd imagine that journalists/scumsuckers have been pulling these same tricks for a long time. Now we can catch them and do something about it.

re: #109 MandyManners

re: #92 willtay73

Something could still happen to him. He could slip on a bar of soap and die from a brain injury and the moonbats would claim that the soap was a Rovian bar.

No doubt about that. Just look how they still defend this whole thing and have some how convinced themselves that Scott is still telling the truth and he only recanted because he was going to face a harsher penalty.

Nothing like saying, "Hey, don't worry about your morals, values, and what the truth is. Just roll over and recant if you can't handle the heat." And these people represent about half of the voters in the country.

re: #110 Poitiers-Lepanto

any troll using these exchanges to call us names will be subject to "death through German quotation (from Karl Marx)".

LOL!

re: #97 MandyManners

No, that was because President Bush doesn't care about miners.

/

re: #80 Dustyvet

re: #68 JammieWearingFool

Actually, this took longer than I expected, yet it was inevitable.

Ex-Clinton Official Ties Minneapolis Bridge Collapse To Global Warming.

Hat tip: Rush.

In the word's of one of my former NCO's

"ARE YOU SH***** ME!"

If I was feeling energetic (which I am not) I pull out the equations to calculated the delta of thermal expansion of steel from 305 K to 310 K.

But I won't because the delta is not significant.

re: #105 easy

re: #54 Ginn

And while we laugh.. here is an excerpt from "Shock Troops"

Like I keep saying, his stories not only don't ring true, they are stupid.

They were more than stupid. They were foul and dishonest.

Even worse, TRN perpetuated them and now refuses to take any responsibility. Like a child they've chosen to pull the covers over their head until this "storm" blows over.

re: #111 pingjockey

re: #92 willtay73He'll be damn lucky if all he's doing is cleaning heads and kp duty. His nco's will have him on the worst shit details they can think up. I'm a retired e-6 navy and we can be darn inventive when it comes to dealing with problem children!

No doubt on that either. I am a former CPL (pissed off because I couldn't make the points for SGT) so I know what you are talking about.

re: #113 JammieWearingFool

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

re: #16 EtNorskTroll

God save me from ever having to mourn my murdered kid/niece/nephew/cousin/whatever.

Then I clicked that James Harvey link and watched another sad video about a man's kid being killed. Yo, Hillary, he called on parents to take responsibility . . . nothing about a village.

Anyone else notice you now need to be a paid subsciber to read any articles on the site now?

total silence on the issue at Kos...obviously to be expected

re: #68 JammieWearingFool

Melissa Hortman of the Minnesota House of Representatives "speculated that 90-plus-degree heat Wednesday and the above-normal temperatures of the past two summers may have been a contributing factor," and said "You wonder if this bridge was built to withstand the massive heat we have had this summer." Or even if it was built to withstand heat, whether its structural deficiencies undermined the design integrity to a point where heat contributed to the collapse.

While fire does melt steel, it does have to get a bit higher than a massive 90 F

re: #93 JammieWearingFool

re: #69 SeafoodGumboThat comes off as a brief outline of all the journalistic malfeasance which occurs daily in this country.

Whatever the case, I'm sure Bush and global warming are responsible.

I'm sure trans-fat is to blame somewhat.

re: #123 vxbush

re: #110 Poitiers-Lepanto

any troll using these exchanges to call us names will be subject to "death through German quotation (from Karl Marx)".

LOL!

Charles should install a new game over in the corner "Wack a Troll" so the hampsters have something to do in their off duty time:)

re: #124 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

re: #97 MandyManners

No, that was because President Bush doesn't care about miners.

/

Bush caused the mine to collapse. I wonder how long this will take.

What sense does it make for TNR to scrub the site of Beauchamp's stuff now? Why no word from the grand poohbahs at TNR? Are they trying to sort out who has to commit seppuku to make this go away?

Lots of questions. Not many answers. BTW, I'm finding the TNR site timing out - probably because everyone is trying to find whether it's indeed been scrubbed.

More thoughts here.

re: #124 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

re: #97 MandyManners

No, that was because President Bush doesn't care about miners.

/

George Bush Doesn't care about Black Lung people

/kanye off

Ex-Clinton Official Ties Minneapolis Bridge Collapse To Global Warming

.

Bush ties Minneapolis Bridge Collapse to Empty Headed Politicans who make such statements.

Well obviously not everybody at TNR went on vacation.

Sorry y'all but haven't had time to read the thread. What is it that Charles is saying here: that the "Shock Troops" articles written by that POS are no longer on TNR? NONE of 'em?!

re: #122 willtay73

No, they don't represent 50 per cent of Americans. You're giving the moonbats more power than they have because they're vocal and have the media dancing to their tune.

...virtual Clinton think tank ...

Huh,what be that?

We have always been at war with Oceania

MandyManners (#119),

The moonbats will never admit he lied.

They're in a sticky situation on this one.

Did he tell the truth to TNR?

Did he tell the truth to the Army investigators?

You can't answer yes to both those questions.

And The New Republic holds itself up as a paragon of the enlightened, intellectual center-left.

It's utterly pathetic what they've become. what they are.

There, that's better.

re: #142 xtraBilly

...virtual Clinton think tank ...

Huh,what be that?

and we know what they think with..............

re: #124 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

How could I forget!

re: #66 Ginn

Why? because he's a sick, twisted little fuck that hates himself and his own culture and way of life so much that he wanted his country to be so humiliated and denigrated that they'd pull out of iraq and leave the iraqis to be slaughtered at the hands of the terrorist thugs. despicable!

re: #144 Geepers

MandyManners (#119),

The moonbats will never admit he lied.

They're in a sticky situation on this one.

Did he tell the truth to TNR?

Did he tell the truth to the Army investigators?

You can't answer yes to both those questions.

Actually, he could claim that he was telling the truth from a certain point of view. /martin blank's code of moral flexibility

Good news. We'll soon have Maureen Dowd to kick around again. The bourbon-soaked lush and the rest of the incoherent hacks at the NY Times will soon return fromInternet Siberia behind the pay-per-view walls of TimesSelect.

MoDo, Krugman Freed From Obscurity

Sure these morons are intellectually and morally bankrupt, but they provide so much easy material.

Drinks are on MoDo. Literally.

re: #132 easy But I thought fire doens't melt steel?
//troofer mode here.

re: #96 Just_A_Grunt

re: #69 SeafoodGumbo
I did notice that out of the 50+ scandals listed only one pointed to Fox News and it was about comments made by one of the political reporters, which he shouldn't have made. I don't know about you but that pretty much cements who you should get your news from.

To be honest, I think Fox sucks also, just not as bad as the leftist alphabet soup networks. I mean, Fox has Geraldo, Wesley Clarke, Bill O'Reilly, Greta von Skully, Colmes, Shemp Smith, etc.

They need to keep Brit Hume, Chris Wallace, and a handful of people and start over. They're only a decent network relative to the abominable ANCBSMSNBC juggernaut.

re: #74 Charles

Obviously a Clintonesque move, pull the story without actually pulling the story, allows double edged plausible deniability.

Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today
Oh how I wish he'd go away.
—William Hughes Mearns

re: #135 willtay73

Give the moonbats time.... They play some sort of sick 7 degrees of separation to eventually blame Bush for everything.

Case in point: If Michael Moore's car wouldn't start this morning, he'd begin working on a documentary showing how Bush has destroyed the auto industry.

Global Warming? Actually that would make the freeze-thaw cycle in Minnesota less of a problem for highways and bridges. If it were true. Minnesota has not been noticeably warmer in the summers, though the winters have seemed more temperate, -20 f instead of -30 f.

re: #136 lawhawk

What sense does it make for TNR to scrub the site of Beauchamp's stuff now? Why no word from the grand poohbahs at TNR? Are they trying to sort out who has to commit seppuku to make this go away?

Lots of questions. Not many answers. BTW, I'm finding the TNR site timing out - probably because everyone is trying to find whether it's indeed been scrubbed.

More thoughts here.

Law..

Perhaps they are trying to sort out who to fire to make this go away. This won't change much. In their zeal to be hip and Liberal they drove the legacy of what was a fine periodical established almost a century ago and drove it's reputation into the ground.

It would be very, very simple to turn it around, Law. The public is very forgiving. They need to step up to the plate, hat in hand, eat crow, apologize, and be honest.

If I was in his shoes, you damn right I am going to tell the investigators that I made it up. TNR can't ruin my life nearly as bad as the Army can. It is a grown ups world and there is no time to be tolerating childish behavior. I have no doubt that at some future date once he is a civillian again he will stand up and swear that everything he said was true, but until that day my advice to him to keep his mouth shut, his blog closed and letters home limited to his mom and dad.

re: #146 Shug

Would the virtual think tank crank out something like "I did not virtually have sex with that women"

re: #150 JammieWearingFool

It never made sense for hiding opinionists behind the pay to read wall. Everyone has an opinion. Not everyone can get news archives like the NYT. Not everyone can run news as quick as the NYT. Opinion was the option least likely to succeed at being monetized. Yet, that's what Pinch chose. Heh.

re: #143 billhedrick

We have always been at war with Oceania

2+2=5

re: #152 SeafoodGumbo

re: #96 Just_A_Grunt

re: #69 SeafoodGumbo
I did notice that out of the 50+ scandals listed only one pointed to Fox News and it was about comments made by one of the political reporters, which he shouldn't have made. I don't know about you but that pretty much cements who you should get your news from.

To be honest, I think Fox sucks also, just not as bad as the leftist alphabet soup networks. I mean, Fox has Geraldo, Wesley Clarke, Bill O'Reilly, Greta von Skully, Colmes, Shemp Smith, etc.

They need to keep Brit Hume, Chris Wallace, and a handful of people and start over. They're only a decent network relative to the abominable ANCBSMSNBC juggernaut.

The problem is Fox is falling into the trap of being called out as not balanced. In their effort to show balance they mistakenly add too much of one side and forget about the balance. This is an effect from the loud mouth left. If you always have someone screaming in your ear then you will eventually heed to their words. Right or wrong.

re: #144 Geepers

Their tits are in a wringer fer shure.

What is truth? —Potius Pilate

re: #22 P. Aaron

re: #6 liege

The intertubes sure makes it harder to get away with lies. Thank you, Al Gore for your nifty invention.

Saw on Bumpersticker:

Al Gore didn't invent the internet, but he did invent Global Warming

I want one of those bumper stickers!

PIMF! Pontius Pilate

Any former military legal types out there? Can the army prove that he enlisted under false pretenses to write this vile dreck? Because if you enlist under false pretenses its a court martial offense.

Glad to see that the staff at the Recdep at the MiniTrue are not on vacation.

re: #154 jill e

Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today
Oh how I wish he'd go away. I think he's from the CIA.
—(apologies to) William Hughes Mearns

"After much internal debate, Times executives - including publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. - made the decision to end the subscription-only TimesSelect service"

Sometimes a picture says it all.

re: #167 pingjockey

That'd be a really tough sell. Although he himself wrote those words, he could refer to the pre-established pattern and claim to be a compulsive liar, thus calling into question the validity of the statement on his blog.

re: #167 pingjockey
I am not a legal type but I believe the storyline is more like this. He always daydreamed about being a writer, and in reading his blog he talks about how he visited a school in Germany to teach some writing classes. Boy meets girl who happens to work for TNR and sees his chance. Mix in a vivid imagination and you have another tale of teenage angst. Boy writes stories to impress girl and fullfill his dreams of being a writer.

re: #148 Kirly I don't disagree with your assessment, but I gotta tell ya, the very first time I read that, I KNEW he was lying. It's been 30+ years since I was in the Army, but it's inconceivable to me that a troop would say anything remotely like that about a wounded or disfigured by wounds, troop. NEVER. And if it had, I GUARANTEE you that other troops would have forcefully shut him up.

and, once again, it's
The Scoop Bochamp Story
[Link: cruxy.com...]

aka El(sbeth) Reeve's Tale

[Link: cruxy.com...]

an hilarious albeit short romp through the faux Journalism at TNR

Cut and run, it's the liberal way.

Positively Orwellian. At TNR, 2+2=Foer.

re: #171 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

re: #167 pingjockey

That'd be a really tough sell. Although he himself wrote those words, he could refer to the pre-established pattern and claim to be a compulsive liar, thus calling into question the validity of the statement on his blog.

A "pattern of lying" would mean he likely lied on his enlistment forms, too, which would only strengthen the case against him.

For TNR - puk puk puk puk!

From Dave's Super Chicken site

re: #148 Kirly

re: #66 Ginn

Why? because he's a sick, twisted little fuck that hates himself and his own culture and way of life so much that he wanted his country to be so humiliated and denigrated that they'd pull out of iraq and leave the iraqis to be slaughtered at the hands of the terrorist thugs. despicable!

I agree in part with you, Kirly. I think this person is wholly self-centered. I don't think he has the capacity to plan anything on such a grand scale. He wanted attention. He couldn't get it other than writing like a middle schooler on the back stall of the Boy's Room.

It was under TRN's aegis that this was published. They had the
responsibility to ensure what they put out was true. It is their reputation as a honest broker of the truth that is on the line.

But now I see they haven't had that reputation for quite some time, especially if they continue to copy their stories off the bathroom stall wall.

re: #142 xtraBilly

...virtual Clinton think tank ...
Huh,what be that?

Clinton think tank

Sorry for the repeat post folks but, I haven't had time to read the thread. What is it that Charles is saying here: that the "Shock Troops" articles written by that POS are no longer on TNR? Or they are, but simply don't appear in the search function?!

re: #173 realwest

I second that....

OT - CAIR Hates Tom Tancredo:
In a statement issued today, CAIR said:

"The Republican candidates and the Department of State are correct in
rejecting threatened attacks on Islamic holy sites as a deterrent to
terrorists.
"Representative Tancredo's extreme and counterproductive proposal to threaten Mecca and Medina fails any reasonable test for strategic
viability. It only serves to further damage our nation's interests and image in the Muslim world and will inevitably be used as rhetorical fodder by extremists. "America's relationship with Islam and Muslims worldwide will be a central issue for the administration of our next president, whoever that may be. "We call on Representative Tancredo to retract his inflammatory statements and to apologize for fanning the flames of international mistrust and hostility. We also urge every other presidential candidate to state how her or his leadership would win back the international support, particularly in the Islamic world, that America has lost in recent years."

What would Walt Whitman say?

re: #133 SeafoodGumbo

re: #93 JammieWearingFool

re: #69 SeafoodGumboThat comes off as a brief outline of all the journalistic malfeasance which occurs daily in this country.

Whatever the case, I'm sure Bush and global warming are responsible.

I'm sure trans-fat is to blame somewhat.

Let's not overlook second-hand smoke, bird flu, West Nile virus, potential hurricanes, Viagra, SUV's, high gas prices, tax cuts for the rich, Alberto Gonzales, hanging chads, Iraq, global cooling, climate change, Fox News Channel, Rupert Murdoch, Dick Cheney, Halliburton, CEO's, talk radio, the military-industrial complex, the CFR, the illuminati, LGF, the paparazzi, crass commercialism, and the rightwing smear machine, without which, none of the aforementioned would have been possible

re: #179 Ginn Please see my post #173.

I predict there will be a flood of "Fake but accurate" posts on the liblogs today.

re: #171 YourTaxDollarsAtWorkOk to paraphrase "i've always been a liar and I'm still lying" in other words totally incapable of telling the truth and you can't bust me for it. That's hosed!

Just to go off topic real quick, check this out.

Simply nutty.

Won't be long before he's on a tour of college campuses just like Dan Rather's producer telling us it really was a true, and he's been silenced by the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

re: #183 RTLM

I see a shit load for CAIR saying what we need to do to improve our image with Muslims, but never seem to hear anything about how Muslims should improve their image with us.

Fuck them and the camel they road in on.

re: #181 realwest

Sorry for the repeat post folks but, I haven't had time to read the thread. What is it that Charles is saying here: that the "Shock Troops" articles written by that POS are no longer on TNR? Or they are, but simply don't appear in the search function?!

The latter.

'Shock Troops' - Gone from TNR?

The only shock would have been had the headline read "STILL AT TNR!"

I'd rather be a chickenhawk than a pack of liars, cowards, political hacks and thieves. Oh, and I noted TNR does it's godless, liberal duty to bash Christians like the omnipresent Helen Thomas Michelle Cottle. I can smell her smugness from 1,000 miles away.

re: #180 bulwrk

re: #142 xtraBilly

...virtual Clinton think tank ...
Huh,what be that?

Clinton think tank

Hey! That's desecrating the Islamic crescent!

re: #160 lawhawkHave they made any good business decisions of late? Shoddy reporting and journalistic perfidy have much to do with their quandary, buit they're not too bright on the business side either, it seems.

re: #183 RTLM

We also urge every other presidential candidate to state how her or his leadership would win back the international support, particularly in the Islamic world, that America has lost in recent years."

Certainly a question I want to see answered by all candidates. Its time to see just how low the defeatocrats are willing to bow and scrape in an effort to win back this imagined support.

re: #192 Cobra Ah, thank you. Wonder why TNR would keep the articles but delete them from the search feature?

re: #177 victor_yugo

True. But "Enlisted under false pretenses" is one of the more serious charges he could be facing. It is also one of the more difficult to prove. Unless he breaks down and tells the investigators that the only reason he joined was to fuel his writing career, and he knew up front he was not going to faithfully fulfill his enlistment oath, there may be no way to make that charge stick.

The interesting thing to me about the journalism scandals is that you can pretty much divide most of them into two categories: those that were perpetrated to advance the writer's career and those that were intended to further an agenda. Scott Beauchamp has the distinction of combining both, an exercise in mendacity matched only by a few, such as Walter Duranty. Obviously he hasn't done a fraction of the damage Duranty did, but he sure did his darnedest.

OT:

FOMC policy statement in 45 minutes.

/Let the madness begin.

re: #189 willtay73That's par for the course on the NYC Council.

What, the TNR piece “Shock Troops” has turned out to be a fraud?

Scott Thomas Beauchamp apparently recanted virtually all of it, with a signed affy-davy (wonder if it’s as good as Long John Silver’s) to the U.S. Army on Day One.

Did he not stand up to The Man for at least 5 minutes? Did he not free our minds? Did he not speak Truth to Power? (well, apparently he wasn’t speaking the truth at all).

Say it ain’t so.

In other news, there are apparently some (Rick Moran, as per Ace) who imply the “Decloaking of Beauchamp" might have been a victory in Iraq.

No, what the “Decloakig” truly is, is this: simply a victory against the Left’s War of Spin, Deceit and Lies against the American Public, intended to get the American Public to do as the Left desires.

The Left is being caught, and a bit too frequently.

Most of their stuff is either inarticulate (i.e. crude, insulting, etc.), elitist (and contorted almost to the point of incomprehensibility), or known to have already failed, miserably, and cost many millions of lives (in many separate lands).

Now they have a real and public credibility problem; is what they write true or false? If false, why should their policies be accepted and followed? Do we need more dead?

How will this be spun? Will all of the politbureau members mighty editors write and publish, in good Maoist form, a public admission of their guilt?

It will be interesting to see who survives the purge vacation at TNR.

re: #188 pingjockey

You nailed it.

Found it. If you use Google's site search it comes up:

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

re: #194 jcm

no...that's putting it in it's rightful place!

re: #202 JammieWearingFool

re: #189 willtay73That's par for the course on the NYC Council.

I guess what I don't get is how any American could possibly vote for a candidate that would even think of banning words. I think that is the definition of UnAmerican.

re: #185 JammieWearingFool

Whewww. That list wore me out.

re: #162 willtay73

The problem is Fox is falling into the trap of being called out as not balanced. In their effort to show balance they mistakenly add too much of one side and forget about the balance. This is an effect from the loud mouth left. If you always have someone screaming in your ear then you will eventually heed to their words. Right or wrong.

Fox is not conservative. They are tabloid-populist.

re: #185 JammieWearingFool

You forgot CFC's, oh and continential drift.

The only two things left that I really want to know about this terminally dead horse are these...

1. Is Scotty B's girlfriend still his girlfriend, or has he just not gotten the Dear John yet?

2. Is Scotty B's girfriend unemployed?

Inquiriing minds must know these things.

re: #189 willtay73

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#66 Ginn
Why?

Because that is how John Kerry became Senator. Scott has ambition, just no originality.

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

re: #185 JammieWearingFool

You left out brain-cancer-causing cell phones and carcinogenic magnetic field from power lines.

I just got the list started. Others may feel free to embellish. I'm sure by the time another post is up, we could have a thousand excuses.

OT:

Remember this:

On Capitol Hill, some Democrats are blaming a lack of money for maintaining the nation's infrastructure on the war in Iraq.

Congresswoman Louise Slaughter of New York says victims of the bridge collapse in Minnesota are "almost victims of war." She says a nation "in perpetual war" doesn't have the money to pay for its road and bridge needs.

No money for roads or bridges, huh? But what about Stadiums?

On April 26 2005, the Twins and Hennepin County announced that a deal had been reached, in which the Twins would pay roughly 1/3 of the stadium's cost ($125 million), with the rest being paid for by a 0.15% Hennepin County sales tax. The deal would need to be approved by the Hennepin County Board. After delaying the vote one week, on May 3 the Board voted 4-3 in favor of the stadium deal, with the vote falling entirely along gender lines (men supporting). Minneapolis mayor R.T. Rybak (DFL) had already weighed in favor of the stadium, a move said to hurt his bid for the party's endorsement for re-election. The plan passed its second hurdle on May 9, 2005 when a House committee of the Minnesota Legislature approved a bill to get around the referendum to be sent to the floor on a 17-5 vote. This legislation languished before the full Legislature, during a particularly gridlocked session, and was placed on the back burner, pending resolution of "more pressing" legislation. Naming rights belong to the Minnesota Twins.

In the 2006 session, the Minnesota House of Representatives passed the bill that would allow the team and county to go around the referendum. The Minnesota Senate also passed a version of the bill, but their version would also build a stadium for the Minnesota Vikings and fund transit projects. The two bills spent most of the legislative session in conference committee. The bill was passed by a 71-61 vote in the House and a 34-32 vote in the Senate. A ballot referendum, called for by many Hennepin County residents, was deemed infeasible due to the time-critical nature of the bill (a referendum would have to wait until the November general election, while dates for the Twins to play in the Metrodome in 2007 needed to be applied for by July 1). The ballpark is scheduled to be open for the 2010 baseball season, the Twins' 50th season in Minnesota. The final bill was approved on May 21 and was signed by governor Tim Pawlenty before the Twins' May 26 home game against the Seattle Mariners. The final version is substantially identical to the House version, with language relating to both the transit tax and the Vikings stadium stripped.

So the local and state government were able to find the millions of dollars needed to build a baseball stadium, but its till going to be the Fed's fault the bridge collapsed.

re: #183 RTLM,

I would think that the opposite is true: it should be the goal of the Islamic Community to regain the trust lost that Islamic Terrorism has caused in the past 30+ years, especially the trust lost due to 9-11 and subsequent acts of Islamic Terrorism.

You see, we can nuke them. I don't see them as giving us any compelling reason not to.

re: #194 jcm

re: #180 bulwrk

re: #142 xtraBilly

...virtual Clinton think tank ...
Huh,what be that?

HATE CRIME ! HATE CRIME !

Clinton think tank

Hey! That's desecrating the Islamic crescent!

re: #194 jcm

Maybe old mo was droppin a duece one day and thats were he got the idea for the crescent of islam.

re: #212 MandyManners

re: #189 willtay73

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re: #173 realwest

re: #148 Kirly I don't disagree with your assessment, but I gotta tell ya, the very first time I read that, I KNEW he was lying. It's been 30+ years since I was in the Army, but it's inconceivable to me that a troop would say anything remotely like that about a wounded or disfigured by wounds, troop. NEVER. And if it had, I GUARANTEE you that other troops would have forcefully shut him up.

Realwest,

I knew he was lying too. How come TRN didn't?

re: #196 scottthecanuck Problem is that I read the obligatory "I'm Horrified" statements form most other Repub candidates. Just falling in line, they are.

re: #77 Poitiers-Lepanto

re: #59 vxbush

I don't know, I this moment I am far from my Greek dictionary, grammars etc....

"CHANGE YOUR MIND, KOmmieSKIDS !"

/TO MYSELF: anybody can look well educated...until he has to conjugate a Greek verb...

Oh, I dunno, P-L... MY definition of well-educated is somebody that can do Laplace or Fourier transforms. Rutherford could do 'em in his head!

But that's my humble opinion. I'm just a dumb Engineer... :)

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re: #198 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

re: #177 victor_yugo

True. But "Enlisted under false pretenses" is one of the more serious charges he could be facing. It is also one of the more difficult to prove. Unless he breaks down and tells the investigators that the only reason he joined was to fuel his writing career, and he knew up front he was not going to faithfully fulfill his enlistment oath, there may be no way to make that charge stick.

I really doubt that would qualify as enlisting under false pretenses. The worst thing you could say in that regard is that Beauchamp thinks he's Norman Mailer. My son enlisted in the Navy (he leaves next month) and he ultimately wants a career writing in television. Is it enlisting under false pretenses if he uses his experience in his writing?

re: #210 easy

re: #185 JammieWearingFool

You forgot CFC's, oh and continential drift.

and hanging chads.

This is interesting...

[Link: www.nysun.com...]

If anyone has been following the Khalil Gibran International School (of Jihad) check out the above link. Apparently, the principal was quoted taking a "soft-stance" on the use of the word infitada on T-shirts. It's use, according to the principal, is not an "endorsement of violence." Rather, it happens to be about "shaking off oppression." She has now retracted the statement; however, the timing of the retraction (right after her tenuous support base for the school began to question the prudence of their support) is suspect. As with all examples of the absurd, we are not without a heavy dose of irony - one of her continuing supporters is an idiot rabbi in Park Slope (one of Brooklyn's most liberal enclaves).

re: #213 pat

#66 Ginn
Why?

Because that is how John Kerry became Senator. Scott has ambition, just no originality.

Scott has no Ted Kennedy nor a first wife who was worth 500 million back in the early seventies.

So sad.

This is way OT but hilarious. I wrote an email to harry Reid back during the amnesty debacle expressing my feelings about it. No, I don't have a copy of the original email since it was sent using the email service provided by the congress. Well I got a response.

Mr. Patrick Henry
1 Main St
Reno, Nevada 89501
Dear Mr. Henry:
Thank you for contacting me to express your support for the Mail Delivery Protection Act (S. 1457). I appreciate hearing from you.
Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) introduced the Mail Delivery Protection Act on May 23, 2007. This legislation would limit the ability of the United States Postal Service (USPS) to use contract delivery services for non-rural routes. Specifically, it would prohibit contracting out delivery on any route with more than one delivery per mile. The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee is currently reviewing this measure.
This legislation is a result of reported increases in the Postal Service's use of their Contract Delivery Service. As you may know, Contract Delivery Service is a contractual agreement between USPS and an individual or company for the delivery and collection of mail on specified new routes. I remain deeply concerned about potential efforts to expand outsourcing of postal functions and the effects this would likely have on the postal workforce and our nation's mail system. I am aware that career carriers typically receive solid middle-class wages, health insurance and adequate pension protection. Contract carrier employees, on the other hand, often receive a low hourly-wage without benefits. I am also concerned about the safety and security of our mail system. The public's trust in career letter carriers is an essential business asset of the Postal Service.
In June, members of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee and the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee requested the Government Accountability Office to study several claims made by the Postal Service about postal outsourcing, including the Contract Delivery Service. I look forward to the results of this report. In the meantime, please be assured that I keep your concerns in mind should I have the opportunity to review S. 1457 or related legislation on this matter.
Again, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with me. For more information about my work for Nevada, my role in the United States Senate Leadership, or to subscribe to regular e-mail updates on the issues that interest you, please visit my Web site at [Link: reid.senate.gov....] I look forward to hearing from you in the near future.
My best wishes to you.
Sincerely,
A
HARRY REID
United States Senator

/names have been changed to protect the INNOCENT

re: #221 Ginn

re: #173 realwest

re: #148 Kirly I don't disagree with your assessment, but I gotta tell ya, the very first time I read that, I KNEW he was lying. It's been 30+ years since I was in the Army, but it's inconceivable to me that a troop would say anything remotely like that about a wounded or disfigured by wounds, troop. NEVER. And if it had, I GUARANTEE you that other troops would have forcefully shut him up.

Realwest,

I knew he was lying too. How come TRN didn't?

They wanted to believe the story. The story pushes an agenda and TNR will happily use it to persuade the civilian population that their military is full of nasty people.

re: #207 willtay73

yep. wait...next....books.(certain kinds first of course), then certain kinds of music...then ....VOILA! INSTANT SHARIA! and Mo will not have fired a shot......all they will have to do is walk in and take the helm!

The Big Lie, ahem, never happened. Those folks are pathetic.

Re: Scott Beauchamp

I can't wait to see O'Reilly rip into TRN!

/HUGE SARC

there is no more useless government body in the U.S. today than the NYC Council. There I said it.

OT:
Hillary Clinton helped create "Media Matters". She just admitted it at the yearly KOS convention.

"Media Matters" are paid left-wing punks operatives who sit and listen to talk radio on behalf of Ms. Clinton. They sit and wait for someone to commit a "thought crime" or a politically incorrect statement, or a mind crime, or an-anti-progressive anti-collectivist slur.

Don Imus was targeted because Don Imus worked for CBS affiliate. You cannot be allowed to work for the DNC media and say anything bad about a precious and holy democrat. Don was hard (mean and nasty) towards tow bid democrats: John Kerry and Hillary. Not allowed.
That is the real reason Don Imus was fired.

Here is her quote at Y-KOS

HILLARY:

"We are certainly better prepared and more focused on, you know, taking our arguments and making them effective and disseminating them widely and really putting together a network in the blogosphere, in a lot of the new progressive infrastructure, institutions that I helped to start and support, like Media Matters and Center for American Progress. We're beginning to match what I have said for years was the advantage of the other side. You know, when I made that comment, about the vast right-wing conspiracy, I wasn't kidding."

Shock Troops is linked off of their 'statement on scott thomas' mea schmucka.

re: #232 paxnhymn

re: #207 willtay73

yep. wait...next....books.(certain kinds first of course), then certain kinds of music...then ....VOILA! INSTANT SHARIA! and Mo will not have fired a shot......all they will have to do is walk in and take the helm!

I fear that day but I will do everything I possibly can to prevent it.

re: #197 realwest,

That is the real question. I don't know how they have their search function coded, but if it is the standard way that these things are usually written, it would be a big effort to get it to just ignore articles that are in place. Usually, a key word search just looks at the words as they are written, sometimes it is case sensitive, sometimes not (it can be either). They could have an "ignore" flag in their database so that they can mark articles that they don't want searched, but that would mean that they thought of this type of problem when they were designing their database.

It is puzzling.

re: #236 FrogMarch

PIMF: "tow bid" - "two big"

The left is never accountable for their dishonesty, they just move on, and hope it leaves peoples memories, or they don't even care at all about their dishonesty, and the fact that they are often caught in it.

The lefts favorite belief,

"evil is the victim of Good"

as is the "dead of night" story.

re: #226 xtraBilly

re: #210 easy

re: #185 JammieWearingFool

You forgot CFC's, oh and continential drift.

and hanging chads.

Hanging chads were in there.

re: #241 republic

Well, they meant well, and thats the important thing, right?

/sarc

Wich woud make the outhouse the 267,343rd most holy site in islam.

re: #206 paxnhymn

re: #194 jcm

no...that's putting it in it's rightful place!

Remember this?

re: #220 buzzsawmonkey

re: #189 willtay73

I notice that the Councilmember pushing this proposal is one Darlene Mealy, of Brooklyn.

How appropriate that Mealy should be advocating mealymouthed speech.

I had a friend who enjoyed words almost as mush as you. You could see on his face when he discovered a pun. It's a joy.

re: #125 jcm

re: #80 Dustyvet

re: #68 JammieWearingFool

Actually, this took longer than I expected, yet it was inevitable.

Ex-Clinton Official Ties Minneapolis Bridge Collapse To Global Warming.

Hat tip: Rush.

In the word's of one of my former NCO's

"ARE YOU SH***** ME!"

If I was feeling energetic (which I am not) I pull out the equations to calculated the delta of thermal expansion of steel from 305 K to 310 K.

But I won't because the delta is not significant.

Oh, c'mon, start at 293.16K and go from there!

JAFLW

/It's still not significant, moonbats!

re: #233 EL Rider

The Big Lie, ahem, never happened. Those folks are pathetic.

What is the old saying,

"A lie can get half way around the world before the truth even gets its pants on."

That phrase was coined when there were very few leftist kooks around, now, it's a full time job trying to keep up with the dishonesty of most of the left, inculding the world leftists.

re: #245 bulwrk

pimf

re: #243 JammieWearingFool

re: #226 xtraBilly

re: #210 easy

re: #185 JammieWearingFool

You forgot CFC's, oh and continential drift.

and hanging chads.

Hanging chads were in there.

Dang ! You guys are too thorough.

Stephen Spruiell at The Corner

f the perspective in the Western media were not totally skewed the other way, perhaps we'd see our aspiring writers rushing to Iraq to make up stories about Al-Qaeda brutality. Then again, one hardly lacks real examples.

And the bizarro world New York Times would be exposing the enemy's secret programs, rather than our own...

(H/T Instapundit)

re: #231 willtay73

re: #221 Ginn

re: #173 realwest

re: #148 Kirly I don't disagree with your assessment, but I gotta tell ya, the very first time I read that, I KNEW he was lying. It's been 30+ years since I was in the Army, but it's inconceivable to me that a troop would say anything remotely like that about a wounded or disfigured by wounds, troop. NEVER. And if it had, I GUARANTEE you that other troops would have forcefully shut him up.

Realwest,

I knew he was lying too. How come TRN didn't?

They wanted to believe the story. The story pushes an agenda and TNR will happily use it to persuade the civilian population that their military is full of nasty people.

I wanted to believe that my last love was a good guy. It bit me in the ass. But I wasn't a supposed news opinion periodical like TRN whose goal is to push agendas.

I bet you anything TRN will survive this and carry on as if nothing ever happened.

re: #246 jcm

re: #206 paxnhymn

re: #194 jcm

no...that's putting it in it's rightful place!

Remember this?

yeah...why? I meant as in "the toilet"...

re: #246 jcm

re: #206 paxnhymn

re: #194 jcm

no...that's putting it in it's rightful place!

Remember this?

The linky no worky? Okay, old school.
Remember this?
[Link: george.loper.org...]

If you want to truly understand the pervasive danger of socialist thought to our society, you'd be hard-pressed to find a legitimate example more frightening than this one. This is the back side of the terror that we are all facing.

Do a Google search for this:
[Link: www.google.com...]

Then, do a Google search for this:
[Link: www.google.com...]

Any question now about what's going on?

re: #183 RTLM

to state how her or his leadership would win back the international support, particularly in the Islamic world, that America has lost in recent years."

Can't. take. it. today.

AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGG!