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Video: Radicalized British Muslims

Tue, Aug 7, 2007 at 11:06:27 am PDT

A British TV investigation into the frightening extent of radical Islam in the UK, in five parts; here’s part one:

Youtube Video

The other four parts of this well-done show are available here.

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1 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:09:22am

Islamophobia!

2 DesertSage  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:09:32am

The mind wobbles...

3 RTLM  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:10:06am

I'd be more surpised at seing a youtube video re: NON-radicalized British Muslims.

Or any other NON-radicalized Muslim from any other nation. Seems they don't get out much

4 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:10:18am

Using their own words, and own actions to present them as anything other than peace-loving hippies, is nothing less than outright ISLAMOPHOBIA, no matter how factually accurate.

5 tomg51spence  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:10:23am

Coming to US TV soon? Anyone know?

6 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:12:35am
7 tex68  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:13:32am

PBS where are you?

8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:13:53am

You know its bad if the Brits are actually televising it.

9 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:14:12am

re: #6 ploome hineni

You don't need to deport them. Just try them for treason/sedition.

A Country that refuses to protect itself doesn't deserve to survive.

10 POLAR WIND  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:14:27am

Interesting video. Thanks!

11 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:15:26am
12 Eowyn2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:15:50am

re: #7 tex68

checking into the allegations that someone, somewhere, is an islamophone.

13 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:16:22am

OT (but interesting & U.K. related)
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

14 june_july  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:17:17am

England has already gone so far that no reasonable solution can be foreseen for them.

But can we at least learn from their disaster in Canada and in the US?

I am not optimistic.

15 Know Your Enemy  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:17:41am

This needs to go viral, stat.

16 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:19:41am

They're just Indigo Children.

17 storagemanager  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:20:28am

Islam means peace.

18 Eowyn2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:23:32am

re: #13 WrathofG-d

Harry Potter must be sharing magic:)

19 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:25:13am

Just talking to a Kiwi that has close ties to Britain, he says that a combination of Socialism that has dumbed down the citizenry and allowed crime to run rampant (and disarmed the citizens in their own homes) and Islam, have pretty much doomed Britain.

20 storagemanager  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:25:27am
20:55 Iraqi politician alleges Saudi police beat, detain group of Iraqi Shi`ites in Mecca (AP

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

21 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:25:54am

I take it they would never meet with this british guy for dinner, eh?

Gawd I love that video!

22 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:26:58am

The fact the UK still allows Hizb ut Tahrir to operate and call for a caliphate on their soil leaves me with the impression they haven't learned their lesson yet.

23 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:27:06am

#13 WrathofG-d
So your saying that is how lizards stick together.

24 Spider Mensch  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:27:50am

re: #12 Eowyn2

re: #7 tex68

checking into the allegations that someone, somewhere, is an islamophone.

heh..islam phone. had to search image that...came up with the islamic hands free phone...
[Link: plancksconstant.org...]

25 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:27:58am

More bad news for the formerly Great BritainUK FOM Let's give up our seat on the UN Security Council

UK Foreign Office Minister Mark Malloch-Brown, a wholly owned subsidiary of Soros International (there’s more than one link in that phrase), said prior to his becoming FM that the UK ought to cede its seat on the UNSC to the European Union:
26 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:29:11am
27 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:29:52am

Some of you may be interested in helping get jihadi crap off of utube. Here is a guy who has assembled a task force and webpage of the top dozen to *report* from utube and it also shows the high offenders who post this stuff and the progress of banning the jihadist posters and clips.

See here for more details:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

===============
Current daily dozen utube:

[Link: muninn-quotheraven.blogspot.com...]

28 MODERATIONIST[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:30:32am
29 SeafoodGumbo  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:31:58am

Breaking.......

TNR responds:

A STATEMENT ON SCOTT THOMAS:

We've talked to military personnel directly involved in the events that Scott Thomas Beauchamp described, and they corroborated his account as detailed in our statement. When we called Army spokesman Major Steven F. Lamb and asked about an anonymously sourced allegation that Beauchamp had recanted his articles in a sworn statement, he told us, "I have no knowledge of that." He added, "If someone is speaking anonymously [to The Weekly Standard], they are on their own." When we pressed Lamb for details on the Army investigation, he told us, "We don't go into the details of how we conduct our investigations."

--The Editors
posted 2:12 p.m.

30 Sabraguy  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:33:59am

I saw this program last night.

It is a disgusting indictment of the British political classes who have allowed Islamofascism to fester unchecked in the UK, and have let thousands of Islamists into the country; the British left who cynically supported Islamic extremism to further their vendetta against Israel; and the politically correct British media who failed to carry out their duty of informing the nation.

The words 'stable door' and 'bolted' spring to mind. It will take a generation to put this right. And the first step should be to neutralize our own dhimmis.

31 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:35:19am

The fruits of the UKs many multicultural social engineering projects.

32 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:38:36am

Where do guys in the desert get off wearing face masks and head scarfs....just seems so hot.

33 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:40:17am

re: #29 SeafoodGumbo

hmmmm, somethin' fishy's going on around here

34 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:40:45am

I was listening to the brian sussman show on KSFO last night and he had a muslim on that had worked along side imams for years. You should have heard him. The muslim came across as a really nice guy who I would probably converse with and never suspect his beliefs. But he kept talking.....and Sussman kept drilling like a dentist...ow!

Sussman kept pressing him if he agreed with how wahhabism treats women and that guy was just like our liberals are like when they are asked if they want us to win the war in iraq..they can't utter the word YES. This muslim could not utter the words *wahhabism is wrong*...he kept saying..that is their culture and it's up for debate. Sussman was in disbelief..he's like we are talking lives here...and you think the murder and cutting for minor offenses should be debated?

The muslim went on to say how infidels should not be held to the same standard of muslims but Sussman again pressed him..so if muslims gain more and more voting seats into our political process, what will we do with thier pressing that the gov't should be governed under sharia? The muslim said something to the effect of, well, then we'll have two different laws..and then he began to tap dance and not answer.

I'm telling you folks..moderate my ass. While this guy might not pick up a machete to cut our head off nor strap on a bomb belt, he sure the hell will NOT say it is wrong.

THAT is the problem with muslims......what crystal ball do people have? Let me know, then I may relax around them just a litte. Until then..stay the HELL away from my family..cause your koran says I need to be dead....can't be any more black and white than that.

35 ArcherB  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:42:48am

Why "Radicalized British Muslims"? Why not just "British Muslims"?

Otherwise, you're being redundant!

36 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:43:31am

MPACUK is seething....
Dispatches: Muslim viewers - make your voices heard!


Here are some points you could make in your own words:
1) Thank the programme-makers for highlighting the central role of foreign policy in causing radicalisation, and the government's refusal to acknowledge this fact.
2) Complain that the trailers and promotion of this programme were sensationalised and inflammatory, portraying Muslims as a threat.
....
- The Islamic prohibitions against harming civilians should have been mentioned.
37 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:43:49am

re: #35 ArcherB

Why "Radicalized British Muslims"? Why not just "British Muslims"?

Otherwise, you're being redundant!

No you aren't. Not all Muslims in England are "radicalized".

Its "radicalized" that I have a problem with.

38 Know Your Enemy  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:44:31am

Part 5 of the video seems to end prematurely. Are there any more clips?

39 zombie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:44:33am

I simply can NOT believe that guy's name is Shahid Butt.

I mean, you couldn't even make up a funnier name if you tried.

40 sheik yer'mami  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:44:56am

'A country that doesn't protect itself doesn't deserve to survive'-

I like that. How do we get the message across to our politically correct wankers?

The first bit in the video is lies and statistics, the Ivonne Ridley bit cracks me up, she's a real cow, and the others tell the truth...

No mosques, no madrassah's, no clerics, NO MO MUHAMMEDANS !

TELL THEM TO SHAPE UP OR SHIP OUT!

41 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:45:05am
Separately, we received this statement from Major Steven F. Lamb, the deputy Public Affairs Officer for Multi National Division-Baghdad:

-Weekly Standard

When we called Army spokesman Major Steven F. Lamb and asked about an anonymously sourced allegation that Beauchamp had recanted his articles in a sworn statement, he told us, "I have no knowledge of that."

-TNR
Like I said, somethin' fishy's going on around here

42 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:45:50am

re: #41 bosforus

Separately, we received this statement from Major Steven F. Lamb, the deputy Public Affairs Officer for Multi National Division-Baghdad:

-Weekly Standard


When we called Army spokesman Major Steven F. Lamb and asked about an anonymously sourced allegation that Beauchamp had recanted his articles in a sworn statement, he told us, "I have no knowledge of that."

-TNR
Like I said, somethin' fishy's going on around here

oops, forgot to post the quote from the weekly standard

An investigation has been completed and the allegations made by PVT Beauchamp were found to be false. His platoon and company were interviewed and no one could substantiate the claims.
43 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:45:59am

re: #36 Killgore Trout

I hate that "foreign policy" excuse the Muslims always give....and I mean EXCUSE.

I cannot fully explain how infuriated I am about the U.S. foreign policy towards Israel, the Worlds policies toward Sudan, or most countries foreign policies against Israel....BUT YOU DON' T SEE ME GOING OUT AND SCREAMING FOR MURDER AND KILLING PEOPLE!

"Foreign Policy matters" are not the explanation....they are an EXCUSE!

44 zombie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:46:33am

(For those that didn't watch the video: the last person interviewed in this section is actually named Shahid Butt. Which is especially bizarre, because he took up arms and wanted to be a martyr (shahid), and he's an asshole (butt).)

45 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:48:02am

re: #44 zombie


haha sounds like shaved butt..like good ole mo.

46 SeafoodGumbo  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:48:11am

re: #33 bosforus

They're using the Dan Rather method of defense.

47 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:48:23am

re: #44 zombie

Hilarious. Thanks for sharing!

I'm watching my brother's kiddos and don't want to give them
nightmares.

48 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:49:38am

re: #46 SeafoodGumbo

When we called Army spokesman Major Steven F. Lamb and asked about an anonymously sourced allegation

If I was Maj. Lamb and wanted to screw with TNR I'd say the same thing. He could always come back later and say "I had no knowledge of an allegation, I had knowledge of the truth, therefore my statement was accurate."

49 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:49:44am

re: #41 bosforus

Separately, we received this statement from Major Steven F. Lamb, the deputy Public Affairs Officer for Multi National Division-Baghdad:

-Weekly Standard


When we called Army spokesman Major Steven F. Lamb and asked about an anonymously sourced allegation that Beauchamp had recanted his articles in a sworn statement, he told us, "I have no knowledge of that."

-TNR
Like I said, somethin' fishy's going on around here

Someone is lying.

50 HobokenIrish  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:51:51am

I noticed a very interesting book twice in the background of this. When the British woman convert was speaking, Milestones by Sayyid Qutb is in the background. And at the bookstore when the dude is pointing out different books the top shelf has Milestones by Sayyid Qutb. Lots of copies.

I believe that is the book that inspired Zawhahiri's radicalism. It's the Mein Kampf of Islamic Radicalism

51 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:53:12am

re: #46 SeafoodGumbo

too bad charles isn't here, he'd be all over this

52 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:53:52am

Because the English are infidels too......

53 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:55:24am

BEN:

are we all practicing...infidel-ity!

54 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:55:48am

BEN:

Are the girlfriends of USMC soldiers....submarines?

55 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:56:19am

I wonder if they'll mention Mike's Bar.

Or did it all start on 7/7?

56 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:56:56am

Wrath!

Wake and bake today, or what?!?!?!

57 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:57:24am

re: #37 WrathofG-d


Its "radicalized" that I have a problem with.

I used to say that too..but then I have kept my ears open to really listening to *moderates* talk and what I hear them saying is they support sharia and do not condemn wahhabism and this is over several years of listening..not just one source.

I liken moderate muslims that will not utter the words *wahhabism and radical stuff is wrong* or *hamas/hez are terrorist groups* to the liberals not wanting to utter the words *we want the usa to win*. They are trying to damage this country.

Now if you want to talk muslim apostates, I do believe some of them exist and the crystal ball would be where to see which one doesn't know what their koran teaches nor follows it?

I guess my point is, we often hear how these radicals are in the minority. I challenge that to the media and politicians that spew this nonsense. They fail to take into consideration those *moderate* muslims who pave the way for the radicals in easing up on whatever avenues would slow the radicals down, whether that be excusing, staying silent, or infiltrating our systems to water them down.

58 starman  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:58:23am

After reading about Islam at various sites, books and listening to them I have come to the conclusion that it is incompatible with democracy. They have an agenda of world domination and will say and do anything to achieve it. History bears this out, witness Charles Martel and John Sobieski. They understand only force and as they grow in numbers will subvert anything that stands in their way like Christianity, Democracy, The Rule of Law etc.
Why is this so hard to understand?

59 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 11:58:26am

re: #56 Ben Hur

Wrath!

Wake and bake today, or what?!?!?!

Ha! nope.

60 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:00:21pm

re: #58 starman

yeah we stopped teaching solid history a long time ago...and pcness has overtaken our culture.

The true history teachers must be really pissed off to see this.

61 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:01:33pm
The true history teachers must be really pissed off to see this.

I agree.

All 5 of them.

62 SeafoodGumbo  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:01:50pm

re: #51 bosforus

This definitely needs its own thread.

It's nice to see TNR digging in their heels so that their ultimate bitch-slap will be that much harsher.

63 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:02:03pm

re: #57 Highrise

You misunderstood my post.

I was saying that it isn't radicalized Muslims versus moderate ones...but instead Muslims vs. "Reform" Muslims, or those NOT practicing the religion.

They aren't "radicalized" Muslims, they are practicing Muslims.

Until Islam creates (or goes back) to an Islam that is & can be interpreted differently (as Christianity and Judaism are) this will always be the case.

I've read the Koran, I know what it says.

As for the "tiny minority"...Wrath says: WHO CARES. I don't care if it is 1% or 30% or 80%. Whatever % it is it is causing a significant threat to me and my family! If I have to break a few eggs to make this omelet.....well so be it.

64 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:03:09pm

re: #47 loppyd

re: #44 zombie

Hilarious. Thanks for sharing!

I'm watching my brother's kiddos and don't want to give them
nightmares.

Cool. Can I send The Kid over to your place? One more won't make much difference.

65 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:04:21pm

re: #54 WrathofG-d

Wouldn't it be that girlfriends of Marines are sub-marines?

LOL.

66 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:05:35pm

re: #44 zombie

Oh GAWD. Can you imagine what you actually have to do to get "Shahid Butt"? Too dreadful to even contemplate.

67 Miss Trixie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:07:18pm

WriterMom

Posted before but I couldn't catch you - please check your hotmail account tonight for an email from me. I should be able to send it before 5:00pm.

:)

68 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:07:31pm

re: #64 MandyManners

Mandy-I posted an amazing article by Prager today on parenting..did you see it?

69 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:08:01pm

re: #67 Miss Trixie

Oooh...excellent...I am going to get all the details this evening at dinner :)

70 NY Nana  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:08:49pm

Thanks for this thread, Charles. It further proves what this thread does...tragic to see Londonistan, Eurabia, be a done job.

71 SpiritOf1683  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:09:15pm

I suppose this so-called 'expert' suggesting that 15% of British Muslims sympathised with the Jihad was their way of making us feel better, when we know full well that the real percentage is at least three or four times that figure. It seems the lines were drawn at the wrong end of that curve. And what a fruitcake that Yvonne Ridley is.

72 Miss Trixie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:09:34pm

re: #69 WriterMom

re: #67 Miss Trixie

Oooh...excellent...I am going to get all the details this evening at dinner :)

Be gentle to me ... :P

73 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:10:44pm

Kos crows.....
Sad and ridiculous
by kos

The DLC doesn't want a victorious Democratic Party unless such victories happen using their formula. We've been there, done that, and it simply didn't work. Even working out of their own playbook, we couldn't get that magical majority of the popular vote. We lost control of the House and the Senate. Things truly seemed hopeless. We as a movement sprung from those failures.

So we arrived on the scene. We didn't flinch from our position on the war. We held the line on social security, even as the Very Serious People told us it was irresponsible. We championed Dean when we were told it would kill the party. We championed Lamont when we were told it would cost us the Senate. We celebrated Nancy Pelosi when we were told we would be demonized as "San Francisco liberals".
....
We helped build this majority. Not the DLC's 350 or so members. This is no longer their party. And as such, we can look forward to finally being truly competitive for years to come.

I have to hand it to him; he did pretty much destroy the DLC. In doing so he's driven the already weak Democrats further to the left. I don't see it working out well for them but I've been wronf before.

74 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:10:44pm

Whoa..just saw this: A Bridge To "Moderate" Islam is Just a Road To Hell
Subtle..LOL.

75 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:11:19pm

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Thanks for clarifying your post.

My chastising tone in my comment is really directed toward the distortion that the media and politicians give to this subject, not you of course.

I guess I also like to throw in the distinction that there are 3 types of muslims: 1) extremists 2) those who silently support them and 3) apostates...basically meaning they are muslim in name only and know nothing about what they believe because if they did, they would be number 2's at the least or be damned to hell.

I fear if this distinction is not made, our politicians and media make a few mistakes that will surely put us under or make this more bloody of a fight.

a) they legitimize islam as a bonafide religion which it isn't

b) we tailor laws to accommodate them when really we don't want number 1 OR number 2 in our free land..and number 3 isn't a real muslim so we need to stop the accommodations and pcness for them and treat them like any other whacked out cult with another name.

76 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:11:55pm

re: #68 WriterMom

Missed it.

77 Beagle  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:14:16pm

Actually Islam has one very useful sura (ayat) in the middle of one of the most violent parts of the Qur'an, suras Eight and Nine. Or so you'd think...

008.061
YUSUFALI: But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things).


But their version of "peace" means us submitting to sharia and Islamic rule. Similar to when they condemn "all terrorism against innocents" which never means non-Muslims. The definition of "fighting oppression" is the same: the infidel being laid low as dhimmis under sharia.

They can string together "we want peace without oppression and condemn all terrorism against innocents" and still plan to blow your ass to kingdom come.

78 eff plus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:15:20pm

Meh, I only watched the first part and half of the second (short on time at the moment), but so far I’m not impressed with this video. While what these islamo-morons are saying is indeed disgusting, the presenter seems so far clueless. First he spends five minutes of the show talking about how jihad is inseparable from the ideology of islam, but then later he says jihad was “dormant” until the mean ol’ CIA “revived” it in Afghanistan in the 80s. That is compete bullshit. It’s just more of this ‘if only we didn’t do X, this wouldn’t be happening’ dhimmi way of thinking (conveniently vilifying the US before a British audience). Islam’s totalitarian ambitions have been on an uninterrupted, steady advance since the end of the ottoman empire. Unless the video changes as it goes on (I’ll watch more later) to me it reeks of collaborationism.

79 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:15:58pm

re: #76 MandyManners

I'm gonna get it again..it was from FrontPage..BRB.

80 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:16:54pm

Mandy-here it is. I thought it was great. I really like Prager.

81 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:17:22pm

re: #75 Highrise

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Thanks for clarifying your post.

My chastising tone in my comment is really directed toward the distortion that the media and politicians give to this subject, not you of course.

I guess I also like to throw in the distinction that there are 3 types of muslims: 1) extremists 2) those who silently support them and 3) apostates...basically meaning they are muslim in name only and know nothing about what they believe because if they did, they would be number 2's at the least or be damned to hell.

I fear if this distinction is not made, our politicians and media make a few mistakes that will surely put us under or make this more bloody of a fight.

a) they legitimize islam as a bonafide religion which it isn't

b) we tailor laws to accommodate them when really we don't want number 1 OR number 2 in our free land..and number 3 isn't a real muslim so we need to stop the accommodations and pcness for them and treat them like any other whacked out cult with another name.

Wait! ISLAM IS A BONAFIDE RELIGION,and many of its aspects should be protected under the First Amendment. HOWEVER, that does not mean that we have to protect or accept the aspects of Islam (or any other religion) that is contrary to our founding principles as Americans, or other Laws of the United States (such as Hate Speech, Treason, etc.)

But not all religions are the same. (which should seen obvious).

82 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:18:29pm

re: #77 Beagle

Actually Islam has one very useful sura (ayat) in the middle of one of the most violent parts of the Qur'an, suras Eight and Nine. Or so you'd think...


008.061
YUSUFALI: But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things).


But their version of "peace" means us submitting to sharia and Islamic rule. Similar to when they condemn "all terrorism against innocents" which never means non-Muslims. The definition of "fighting oppression" is the same: the infidel being laid low as dhimmis under sharia.

They can string together "we want peace without oppression and condemn all terrorism against innocents" and still plan to blow your ass to kingdom come.

Their definition of "peace" as you pointed out and Taqiyya, the allowed and encouraged lying to infidels.

83 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:19:05pm

In case no one's mentioned it yet:
[Link: www.charleston.net...]

The leader of a Muslim advocacy group who has been talking with Megahed's family said the two were heading to North Carolina to celebrate Mohamed's birthday, which was Sunday.

"Family members are very concerned, shocked about what has developed," said Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Tampa chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

The contents of the trunk might have been part of the celebration, he said.

An affidavit from the Berkeley County Sheriff's Office said officers from the bomb squad determined that pipe bombs were in the trunk. Pipe bombs are homemade explosives, and making or having them is a felony.

Mohamed told the arresting officer he used materials he bought at a Wal-Mart, according to the affidavit.

84 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:21:10pm

re: #81 WrathofG-d


HOWEVER, that does not mean that we have to protect or accept the aspects of Islam (or any other religion) that is contrary to our founding principles as Americans, or other Laws of the United States (such as Hate Speech, Treason, etc.)

You call them just mere aspects? Everything they are about is contrary to freedom.

No one will never convince me ever that islam is a bonafide religion....they would convince me in a heartbeat it was a bonafide cult that celebrates death though!

And people thought the heaven's gate cult was weird..ha!

85 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:21:17pm

re: #64 MandyManners

Cool. Can I send The Kid over to your place? One more won't make much difference.

Sure, what's one more when I'm already watching four? :)

86 Miss Trixie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:22:01pm

Can't we just b*tch-slap Bedier since he's a tool of the highest order?

87 Pete(Detroit)  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:22:53pm

Wow! Looks like Great Stuff!

88 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:23:12pm

re: #83 anotherindyfilmguy

The contents of the trunk might have been part of the celebration, he said.

An affidavit from the Berkeley County Sheriff's Office said officers from the bomb squad determined that pipe bombs were in the trunk. Pipe bombs are homemade explosives, and making or having them is a felony.


haha celebrating palestinian style!

89 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:24:05pm

re: #80 WriterMom

The liitle dear doesn't need to look for excitement. It's wired into his brain.

90 Beagle  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:24:46pm

Of course, even the "incline towards peace" leaves us as "the enemy" for future generations.

Now they're trying to force the dhimmis and unbelievers to refer to their mass murders as "hirabi" and "haraba."

Meanwhile back in Saudi Arabia they'll keep teaching their school children that it's A-OK to murder unbelievers. Heck, sometimes it's a religious duty. And the Saudis have exported their propaganda literally everywhere including every American university and elementary classroom. We should know better than to trod our unclean selves on "Muslim land" after all.

But nobody asks what isn't Muslim land. Big oversight.

91 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:26:29pm

It is amazing to me how many people I run into are so quick to say that Heaven's gate death cult was a wierd cult..but they stop just short of calling islam what it is. We need to keep the light shined on it and educate....

92 Roger  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:26:32pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

Unfortunately it is highly likely it will work out for them.

Conservatives will stay home in droves in 2008; their reasons and choices in 2000 & 2004 have not been represented they won't bother with 2008 because they are tired of not having a voice or power used as they expected after giving it to the Republicans.

2010 will be a different matter.

93 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:27:05pm

re: #84 Highrise

I have to go...but what I am saying is this.

You might not like what they preach, you might not agree with anything they say, their religion might be contrary to Christianity or Judaism, or Buddhism, as it is based on war, violence, conquest, submission, etc., directly in the text, and is also a political movement, but it is a bona fide religion.

More importantly, its "bonefideness" as a religion is irrelevant as to how the U.S can respond to it. There are laws that protect against, violence, murder, hate speech, hiring to do murder, advocacy towards murder, and treason. These laws are not contrary to the "freedom of religion" or "freedom of speech" maintained in the 1st Amendment and could be used to counter the aspects of Islam that contain these illegal activities.

Rastafarians are not allowed to smoke pot, even though they state it is part of their religion, and Satanists are not allowed to conduct human sacrifices, even though they state that it is part of their religion. (yes, I know that certain special situations have been made for Native American Tribes and peyote)

ok must go now.

94 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:27:33pm

re: #85 loppyd

I never understood parents who rejoiced when school started back. Now, I do understand but I don't feel guilty at all.

95 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:27:35pm

re: #89 MandyManners

re: #80 WriterMom

The liitle dear doesn't need to look for excitement. It's wired into his brain.

The 2 just 3 year old was out riding trikes, I ran in to check something look out and he had jumped off the second step. His next attempt was going to be the top 7th step. Caught him on launch.

96 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:28:48pm

re: #93 WrathofG-d


Have a good day. I like you but I think you are wrong and are falling into the pcness and one day we'll come out of it..it just is a matter of how much blood will be spilt.

Again, I say people are quick to call the heaven's gate cult wierd and jim jones death cult weird....yet we wish to legitimize islam. Not gonna do it, my friend..../shines the light.

97 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:32:44pm

School has already started back here in some parts of GA with most of them going into session next week.

98 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:34:25pm

re: #92 Roger

re: #73 Killgore Trout

Unfortunately it is highly likely it will work out for them.

Conservatives will stay home in droves in 2008; their reasons and choices in 2000 & 2004 have not been represented they won't bother with 2008 because they are tired of not having a voice or power used as they expected after giving it to the Republicans.

2010 [for the survivors] will be a different matter.


/just a little editing

99 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:34:25pm

re: #94 MandyManners

re: #85 loppyd

I never understood parents who rejoiced when school started back. Now, I do understand but I don't feel guilty at all.

My SIL has the day they return to school circled on the calendar in BRIGHT RED with a giant smiley face. I dare say she feels little guilt. :)

100 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:34:52pm

re: #95 jcm

re: #89 MandyManners

re: #80 WriterMom

The liitle dear doesn't need to look for excitement. It's wired into his brain.

The 2 just 3 year old was out riding trikes, I ran in to check something look out and he had jumped off the second step. His next attempt was going to be the top 7th step. Caught him on launch.

This one will make you day.

Don't run with scissors.... forks.... anything... Don't run?

Sigh, something like that, not if, when....

101 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:35:49pm

re: #99 loppyd

re: #94 MandyManners

re: #85 loppyd

I never understood parents who rejoiced when school started back. Now, I do understand but I don't feel guilty at all.

My SIL has the day they return to school circled on the calendar in BRIGHT RED with a giant smiley face. I dare say she feels little guilt. :)

The first back to school sale sign smelled of DOOM when I was 12.

102 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:36:23pm

re: #95 jcm

Just wait until he's on the roof.

103 Pete(Detroit)  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:38:58pm

re: #39 zombie

Used to work w/ a Thai guy, Leong Dong.
Apparently it's "John Smith" there, only funny HERE.
But man, there were folks who had difficulty talking to him w/ a straight face.

104 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:39:15pm

OT: Defense Rests in Trial of Suspected U.S. Terrorist Jose Padilla

MIAMI — The defense rested its case Tuesday in the trial of Jose Padilla and two other men charged with supporting terrorism, with Padilla's lawyers calling no witnesses or putting on any evidence.

The defense action, coming on day 53 of the trial, clears the way for prosecutors to put on rebuttal witnesses in advance of closing arguments next week from both sides. Jurors could begin deliberations next week as well.

105 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:39:46pm
106 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:40:03pm

re: #103 Pete(Detroit)

We had a client named Hung.

107 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:40:16pm

re: #99 loppyd

Sometimes kids are like cilantro: too much is just too much.

108 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:40:18pm

re: #99 loppyd

I am totally honest about that..for me it's YAY MONDAY and YAY SCHOOL. Taking care of the kids full time is WAY harder than ANY 'day job' I have EVAH had. With my oldest on mat leave, my husband came home one day and asked what I had been doing the whole day-why there were dishes in the sink and why I was still in my pyjamas at 5:00 p.m. I grabbed the baby and shrieked THIS! YOU SEE THIS BABY? THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING ALL DAY-KEEPING THIS BABY HAPPY...I was a little nuts...but he never posed the question again.

109 Pete(Detroit)  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:41:03pm

Loppy! Long time!

110 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:41:25pm

re: #103 Pete(Detroit)

Wasn't that in the movie "Sixteen Candles"? They had an exchange student whose name was Leong Duck Dong?

111 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:42:39pm

re: #100 jcm

It takes a lot to get to me but that really, really did.

112 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:43:01pm

re: #96 Highrise

To clarify on the part that I think is wrong in your post wrath, it's not about me not liking what they preach nor that it is contrary to christianity..I could give two craps about that. Plenty of regular cults exist that do that and religions to boot.

I'm sick of the double standard that people do with islam..look at other death cults I mentioned and how they are talked about in the media/by politicians/by normal people like you and I and then look at islam and how it's almost romanticized in those venues.

While I agree with the legal stickies of this problem, my point is..we need to call it what it is..death cult and start to make sure people know what they are preaching in their koran. If we don't, I fear *we the people* (talking in general) will take back our country and it will be a very bloody civil war in the future.

If the other two death cults I mentioned were still alive today and recruiting, I can almost bet you we'd have laws to deal with islam already.....but since we can't call islam what it is...anarchy could possibly happen before the congress is done debating about laws for 20 years to contain this problem. The congress can't even secure our border......ahh the times we live in :( .

113 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:43:17pm

re: #101 jcm

The first back to school sale sign smelled of DOOM when I was 12.

Wasn't it awful? My mom would hum a tune and thumb through those circulars. She would get this look of victory on her face....

Even worse? School clothes shopping! I never understood why we were buying corduroys and Shetland sweaters in August.

114 ArcherB  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:43:43pm

Re: #37 WrathofG-d

No you aren't. Not all Muslims in England are "radicalized".

Its "radicalized" that I have a problem with.

When I see the Muslims protesting the death of innocent NON-Muslims, I'll agree with you. Until then, I'll lump the "non-radicalized" silent majority in with the rest of them. When I read things like "One in four British Muslims sympathizes with terrorist's motives", it makes me think that I won't have to change my view any time soon.

115 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:43:50pm

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey


and how can mosques here in the USA and UK and free lands preach what is in their koran and not cross lines? Do they skip those parts?

116 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:44:22pm

re: #109 Pete(Detroit)

Hi there! Very long time. My posting is sporadic these days.

How's by you?

117 WriterMom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:44:32pm

OMG those pictures. I can't believe those idiot parents would stop to take a picture? How disgusting.

118 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:45:03pm

re: #108 WriterMom

ROFLMAO!

119 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:45:31pm

re: #107 MandyManners

re: #99 loppyd

Sometimes kids are like cilantro: too much is just too much.

I am SO stealing that from you!

120 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:46:02pm

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey


See my post 112. We can spend 60 years debating while islam is gaining steam and members in free lands. If we think the lefty loons are bad, we have not seen anything hehe.

121 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:46:27pm
122 Pete(Detroit)  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:46:31pm

re: #66 WriterMom

Oh GAWD. Can you imagine what you actually have to do to get "Shahid Butt"? Too dreadful to even contemplate.

6-pack of Miki's Bog Mouth and a plate of sloppy nacho-ohs usually does it for me...

/Ducks, hides

123 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:46:59pm

re: #108 WriterMom

OMG! ROFL.

I get scared that I will suck at motherhood because I am
so anal and organized. I need order.

124 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:47:22pm

re: #108 WriterMom
I can relate to that!
My wife owns a day care....
I pop in for lunch.....wolf my food....
go to the garage for a quick smoke.....
Bam....Back to work in under 15 min...
Not relaxing way to spend a lunch brake!

125 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:47:24pm

re: #113 loppyd

I must've been a weird one. I loved going back to school. I loved the smell of a new textbook. I loved getting new pencils and pens. I loved a new notebook.

Must be why I love Office Depot and can spend hours there.

126 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:48:14pm

re: #121 buzzsawmonkey

Well I can tell you one thing, calling it a religion of peace is doing a pretty good job of mindwiping people from wanting to see what it is about.

127 MODERATIONIST[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:48:22pm
128 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:48:30pm
129 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:49:13pm

I am thrilled about back to school. Even if it also means back to soccer, back to piano, and back to cub scouts, back to "Mom, I need to be a fox in the play tomorrow."

130 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:49:53pm

re: #123 loppyd

You're gonna' need to learn what to let go and which hill you want to die taking. And, remember that sleep is more important than a laundry basket full of dirty onesies.

131 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:50:22pm
132 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:50:59pm

re: #128 buzzsawmonkey

You can't get me to believe that that is all they do in mosques here and in the UK..no way.

I guess when we have a red church scenerio like pakistan did, I'll believe that we are monitoring it. So far, I don't care for what I see in the whitewashing of the press to minimize these issues and that is what the people use to keep abreast of these issues.

133 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:52:29pm

re: #132 Highrise

Oh and to add to that...the complete no coverage practically of the speech that Ellison gave to his muslim constituents....*we (muslims) need to stand up and show America what true justice is!*

Something to that effect. Wow just a little blurp and then swept under the rug.

134 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:53:01pm

re: #125 MandyManners

Don't get me wrong - I loved getting the school supplies. Hello, organization? Pencil boxes, new pink erasers, spiral notebooks, TRAPPER KEEPERS!

135 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:53:45pm

re: #130 MandyManners

I'm sure sleep will trump all. :)

136 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:54:13pm

re: #111 MandyManners

re: #100 jcm

It takes a lot to get to me but that really, really did.

The look on the little guys face.

Had a similar but not quite as bad situation, load the little guy into the Aid unit. He looks at me with those same eyes and says very seriously.

I DON'T like this Aid Car.

Broke me up and cracked me up at the same time.

137 zenren  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:54:21pm

Interesting video. We really need to find alternative energy sources so we can reduce our dependence on the Middle East. There is nothing I would love more than to pull out of the region and let them have at it. I am so sick of all the double standard whinging. I find it interesting that many Muslims expect us to change our culture and laws to suit them yet have a hissy fit if we expect the smallest change or accomodation from them. The jihadis are playing a dangerous game. The ROP mask is getting ripped off. When it gets down to it - and I know some will disagree with me - I don't think the West is just going to roll over into dhimmitude.

138 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:54:46pm

re: #125 MandyManners

re: #113 loppyd
I must've been a weird one. I loved going back to school. I loved the smell of a new textbook. I loved getting new pencils and pens. I loved a new notebook.
Must be why I love Office Depot and can spend hours there.


You are so cute! All those things spelled d.e.a.t.h. to me. LOL

139 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:55:16pm

re: #134 loppyd

We must be twins!

140 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:55:55pm

re: #131 buzzsawmonkey

re: #126 Highrise

I'm certainly with you there. Time to at least start calling it a "religion of war."

Actually, it's time to seperate it from a "religion" and start calling it a cult. True, there are Muslims that practice their "religion" in a sane and peaceful manner. But many have highjacked it for 'religious" purposes, much ion the same way that people like David Koresh (sp?) and the Klu Klux Klan instilled their beliefs in the name of "religion"

141 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:56:39pm

re: #138 NoSubmission

re: #125 MandyManners


re: #113 loppyd
I must've been a weird one. I loved going back to school. I loved the smell of a new textbook. I loved getting new pencils and pens. I loved a new notebook.
Must be why I love Office Depot and can spend hours there.

You are so cute! All those things spelled d.e.a.t.h. to me. LOL

I love Staples!

142 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:56:41pm

re: #137 zenren


I don't think the West is just going to roll over into dhimmitude.

I agree but price to get to that conclusion. Steep, to damn steep, and Pelosi and Reid et. al. will bear a portion of the price.

143 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:57:11pm

re: #135 loppyd

One way I've let my need for organization work for me is by making mulitple servings of a dish and then freezing them.

144 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:57:19pm

re: #106 loppyd

re: #103 Pete(Detroit)

We had a client named Hung.

I guess it is better than being named Hanged if he was up on criminal charges.

145 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:57:42pm

How many Muslims are there in the world according to CAIR's latest numbers? 8 gazillion?

146 tokyobk  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:57:50pm

I just wish the interviewer had asked what type of Muslim was Muhammad?

147 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 12:59:22pm

re: #141 goddessoftheclassroom


I love Staples!

It is the holy grail.

My brother (also boss) has to give me "the talk" before I go for office supplies. He has no respect for the Sharpie. LOL

148 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:00:15pm

re: #143 MandyManners


I guess it is better than being named Hanged if he was up on criminal charges

He was accused of lighting his friend on fire.

149 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:00:19pm

re: #138 NoSubmission

I didn't even mind getting up in the mornings! Nowadays, it sucks 'cause getting him to school is a pain in the ass. Gotta' get up at the crack of dawn, drag him out of bed and get in that crappy traffic.

I bought him a HUGE brass clock yesterday. I'm gonna' keep it locked up when not using it 'cause he'd break off the little clapper thing that beats on both bells.

150 Logan  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:00:30pm

There seems to be a need for muslims, especially those in North America and Europe, to understand (and practice) the concept of historical context as per the qu'ran.

151 cbinflux  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:00:34pm

acceptable Shared Values = Sharia Values

152 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:01:32pm

re: #148 loppyd

re: #143 MandyManners


I guess it is better than being named Hanged if he was up on criminal charges

He was accused of lighting his friend on fire.

Hang Fire

153 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:01:35pm

re: #148 loppyd

Huh?

154 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:02:46pm
155 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:03:13pm

re: #136 jcm

The fall from the slidey-thing on the monkey bars was rough on The Kid. It busted his lip all to hell--facial wounds bleed profusely.

156 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:04:18pm

re: #153 MandyManners

re: #148 loppyd

Huh?

Our client. He plead out and got probation.

157 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:04:23pm

re: #147 loppyd

August 18: Teacher Appreciation Day at Staples. Goody bags for the first 200 teachers.

I'll be there before the doors open!

Last January they were clearing out binders, selling them for 50 cents each. I bought 2 dozen for my students (figuring I'd hold a drawing to figure out to whom to give them), then other people in line bought some and GAVE them to me for my students.

I love small towns.

158 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:05:50pm
159 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:06:14pm

re: #155 MandyManners

I'm so sorry. My Baby Lizard has had his share of stitches.

160 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:06:16pm

I am really koo koo and pissed today.
Any one need a beating?

161 zenren  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:06:39pm

#154 Buzzsawmonkey

I still have a problem with Islam because I belong to the 50% of the population who under Islam are considered inferior. No one wants to talk about the fact that some Islamic values are in direct opposition to basic Western humanist values. They can't co-exist. It's one or the other.

162 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:07:11pm

re: #160 BabbaZee

I have a candidate! :)

163 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:07:12pm

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

equipped with PC, guaranteed-safe "play environments."


Or , in other words ,, NO FUN ZONES

164 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:07:25pm

re: #149 MandyManners
You are made of some strong stuff there lady! I would be asleep standing at my dresser and my mother would keep calling me over and over to get dressed. They didn't call me 'Pokey' for no reason! LOL

165 zenren  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:07:29pm

#161 zenren

Darn! I meant some of the values can't co-exist, not necessarily Islam and other religions.

167 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:08:27pm

re: #162 goddessoftheclassroom

Lemme at him, LOL!

168 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:08:41pm

Any so-called religious scholar that doesn't recognize Islam is a cult and a major ripoff from both the Old and New Testament consider this:

IF any part of the body is not well then the whole body shares the sleeplessness and fever with it. ~ Mohammud

The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

Now the body is not made up of one part but of many. If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. ~1 Corinthians 12:12-15

But somehow old Mo missed these parts:
(1) Matthew 5:39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
(2) Mark 6:11 And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them."
(3) Colossians 3:13 Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.

Islam, the great sham foisted upon mankind...

169 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:09:33pm

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey
I distinctly remember being pissed that they installed rubber all over the ground in our playground. I was thinking, 'Why the hell are they trying to soften us up?"

170 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:09:56pm

re: #155 MandyManners

re: #136 jcm

The fall from the slidey-thing on the monkey bars was rough on The Kid. It busted his lip all to hell--facial wounds bleed profusely.

R Adams Cowley a founder of modern trauma medicine said (paraphrase) about kids.

Kids are tough, if we can get all the pieces, we've got a good chance.

Doesn't make it any easier.

171 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:10:27pm

re: #167 BabbaZee

You've given me a great gift: a mental picture to keep me giggling all day!

Of course, I have no idea what you look like; I've just sort of conjured up an image based on your name and some of the comments you've made.

172 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:10:34pm

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

I spied a playground at a local church that still had a see-saw and took my young-uns to experience it, before they all go away.

Next mission: one of those merry-go-round things that we all either got sick on, fell off, or got trampled and drug in the dirt.

Ahh, good times.

173 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:10:51pm

re: #160 BabbaZee If Monty Python was around now they'd be whacking the devil out of these islamist nut jobs! Plus you might be mad all the time if you were saddled with names like Butt, Megahed and my personal favorite Bagdad Jihaddi. Lol

174 markie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:11:30pm

The media here sure jumped on Militias with both feet, but radical Islamofascists are off limits. Typical.

175 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:12:34pm

Islam
is the Biblical anti-,
the other,
the COVENANT WITH DEATH
which is precisely why it does have power
and it is precisely why it is set up as an inverse of the Judeo-Christian biblical laws.

Walid Shoebat on CBN

176 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:12:53pm

re: #158 buzzsawmonkey

Pubic park. Maybe I shoulda' sued.

177 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:13:22pm

re: #171 goddessoftheclassroom

If he is under 5 foot 9
I am bigger than he is
bwaha

178 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:13:33pm

re: #159 goddessoftheclassroom

He's only needed glue so far.

179 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:13:40pm
180 sheik yer'mami  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:14:03pm

From a posting above:

'Until Islam creates (or goes back) to an Islam that is & can be interpreted differently (as Christianity and Judaism are) this will always be the case.'

Islam never created anything and cannot 'go back' to where its never been.
The Koran is 'immutable'- any deviation is forbidden and makes kufr, unbelief.

Those who believe want us dead or converted. The radicals are the 'good' Muslims, that's it.

[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

181 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:14:22pm

re: #173 pingjockey

Plus you might be mad all the time if you were saddled with names like Butt, Megahed and my personal favorite Bagdad Jihaddi. Lol


I'm just pissed because I gave up my Winston Lights.

182 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:14:35pm

re: #178 MandyManners

I'm so glad!

(You do realize that you make him sound like a tea pot?)

183 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:14:53pm

re: #160 BabbaZee

Note to self. Do not piss Babba off this afternoon.....

184 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:15:06pm

re: #164 NoSubmission

I couldn't wait for class to start.

185 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:15:07pm
186 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:15:44pm

re: #183 loppyd

Not possible for you, lol

187 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:17:09pm

re: #184 MandyManners

re: #164 NoSubmission
I couldn't wait for class to start.


I had no idea people like you even existed! LOL

188 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:17:21pm
189 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:17:26pm

re: #157 goddessoftheclassroom

What a great story!

190 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:19:11pm
191 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:19:58pm

re: #181 BabbaZeeThe better half and me are trying to quit. Hard on our 3 boys the most. "look out dad's got a wrench". Trying to pay for my midlife lunancy, a harley not a vette!

192 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:20:25pm

re: #190 buzzsawmonkey

Ahhahhaa that's exactly what I would have said.

this friggin' nanny state mentality sucks

193 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:20:57pm

re: #160 BabbaZee

I am really koo koo and pissed today.
Any one need a beating?

You snotty-nosed heap of parrot droppings. Shut your festering gob, you tit. Your type makes me puke, you vaccuous, toffee-nosed, malodorous pervert.

194 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:21:04pm

re: #185 buzzsawmonkey

Good idea. Or find an endangered turtle that must have that see-saw as a habitat.

195 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:21:15pm

re: #191 pingjockey

I feel for ya!

196 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:21:32pm

re: #193 MandyManners

Is that great or WHAT!

197 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:21:34pm

re: #193 MandyManners

re: #160 BabbaZee


I am really koo koo and pissed today.
Any one need a beating?

You snotty-nosed heap of parrot droppings. Shut your festering gob, you tit. Your type makes me puke, you vaccuous, toffee-nosed, malodorous pervert.


Slowly I turned...

198 AirForceWife  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:22:04pm

Someone give me a barf bag.

"our enemies are going after islam itself".

Because the main source of Islam is the koran and the koran rivals Mein Kampf as one of the most hateful books of all time.

It baffles me as to how it can be that so many can continue to miss the freaking point.

199 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:22:05pm

How funny people are. We got rid of monkey bars, and then invented bungie jumping.

200 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:22:45pm

re: #197 goddessoftheclassroom

SLOOOWLY I TURNED~

201 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:22:47pm

re: #181 BabbaZee

re: #173 pingjockey


Plus you might be mad all the time if you were saddled with names like Butt, Megahed and my personal favorite Bagdad Jihaddi. Lol

I'm just pissed because I gave up my Winston Lights.

Time for a new addiction!

:D

202 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:23:16pm

OT

Charles Krauthammer at NRO. I rise in defense of drunken astronauts.

Have you ever been to the shuttle launch pad? Have you ever seen that beautiful and preposterous thing the astronauts ride? Imagine it’s you sitting on top of a 12-story winged tube bolted to a gigantic canister filled with 2 million liters of liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen. Then picture your own buddies — the “closeout crew” — who met you at the pad, fastened your emergency chute, strapped you into your launch seat, sealed the hatch and waved smiling to you through the window. Having left you lashed to what is the largest bomb on planet Earth, they then proceed 200 feet down the elevator and drive not one, not two, but three miles away to watch as the button is pressed that lights the candle that ignites the fuel that blows you into space.
203 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:23:26pm

re: #199 Silhouette

How funny people are. We got rid of monkey bars, and then invented bungie jumping.

And sneakers with wheels built in.

204 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:23:38pm

re: #201 Ginn

I liked the old one.

grrr.

205 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:24:02pm

This whole make everything painless is nonsense. Saw something about my generation, we ate paste(or at least tried it), rode bikes with no helmets, playgrounds full of wonderfully dangerous toys, drank water from the irrigation hose etc.. Most of us are okay. I think the paste eaters became moonbats though.

206 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:24:06pm

Be back in a bit

207 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:24:15pm

re: #172 Silhouette

I had someone get off the see-saw when I was at the top. Ouch. I once was trying to jump onto the merry-go-round and got dragged around it--we girls had to wear dresses so my thighs and tush had a bad case of road-rash. I'll never forget that dress. It was pink with pink and white daisies sewed to the straps. It had a big daisy for a pocket.

208 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:24:37pm

re: #203 loppyd

re: #199 Silhouette

How funny people are. We got rid of monkey bars, and then invented bungie jumping.

And sneakers with wheels built in.


And we ended up with grown men on skateboards.

209 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:24:50pm

re: #196 BabbaZee

Excellent insults! Beats "fuck off."

210 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:24:55pm

re: #204 BabbaZee

re: #201 Ginn

I liked the old one.

grrr.

Grufff~ ruff ruff ruff!

If you find a good one let me know, I need a new addiction too!

211 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:25:18pm
212 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:25:38pm

re: #200 BabbaZee

You're just too clever!

I remember first hearing a version on "I Love Lucy" reruns.

213 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:26:00pm

re: #207 MandyManners


My brother lost his two front teeth from someone jumping off
the see-saw. I'll never forget it - jagged teeth and blood everywhere.

214 Whammo  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:26:04pm

What is the difference exactly between a radical British Muslim and a radicalized British Muslim?

215 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:26:16pm

re: #210 GinnHow about "whack a moonbat" saw that earlier.

216 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:26:22pm

re: #190 buzzsawmonkey
Wow. Just . WOW.
Like I said back in '69, 'Why are they trying to soften us up?'

217 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:26:40pm

I'm fairly certain Sean Penn fell over the monkey bars several times.

218 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:26:52pm

I never ate paste, although I did inhale helium to make the funny voice and pushed mercury all around with my fingertips when the thermometer broke.

Oops.

219 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:27:00pm

re: #187 NoSubmission

You'd find us at the library on Saturdays. I reckon I was a geek.

220 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:27:10pm

No more see saws? When did that happen?

221 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:27:20pm

Fell off too.

222 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:27:26pm
223 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:27:31pm
224 docremulac  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:27:50pm

I've come to realize the real enemy of western society isn't radical islam, or career criminals or Soviet expansionism or any of the other malevolent forces have played havoc with the west through the decades. These are all symptoms of the core problem: liberal anti western westerners who make it their life's work to support any evil as long as it's anti-western culture and especially anti-American. These are the people who are dissatisfied with their own lives and seek to blame all their problems on the society that doesn't appreciate them for the superior beings they think they are. They're obsessed with getting even.

I guarantee, if invaders from another planet came to enslave mankind and said they needed some humans to help put the others in line, the liberals would put their hands up so fast your head would spin.

225 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:27:50pm

re: #208 NoSubmission

And we ended up with grown men on skateboards.

I haven't seen that one!

226 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:27:55pm

re: #219 MandyManners

re: #187 NoSubmission

You'd find us at the library on Saturdays. I reckon I was a geek.


I was/still am in many ways a geek. But a lazy daydreaming one.

227 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:28:23pm
228 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:28:23pm

re: #190 buzzsawmonkey

Gee. You must not like Indigo Children.

229 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:28:28pm

re: #215 pingjockey

re: #210 GinnHow about "whack a moonbat" saw that earlier.

No. I need something I can do after some other addiction.

230 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:28:49pm

re: #218 Silhouette

I never ate paste, although I did inhale helium to make the funny voice and pushed mercury all around with my fingertips when the thermometer broke.

Oops.


Oh yeah? Well I ate raw hot dogs.

231 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:28:56pm

Sean Penn got to many wedgies and swirlies and now he's mad at the world! Or at least the non-socialist part of it. You know, redstaters, people of the common clay, you know morons!

232 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:29:00pm
233 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:29:30pm

re: #227 buzzsawmonkey

re: #225 loppyd

Come to Brooklyn.

Seriously? How old are we talkin' here?

234 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:29:53pm

re: #207 MandyManners

I remember wearing dresses or skirts & blouses to school, too.

I was really good at Greek Dodge, at least at dodging; I was useless at throwing. Anyway, this one guy could aim that pink rubber playground ball exactly at the one inch of exposed skin between the hem of my skirt and the top of my kneehigh. Oh, how that stung in cold weather!

235 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:30:40pm

re: #230 loppyd

re: #218 Silhouette

I never ate paste, although I did inhale helium to make the funny voice and pushed mercury all around with my fingertips when the thermometer broke.

Oops.


Oh yeah? Well I ate raw hot dogs.

So did I!

We're screwed!

236 LSD  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:30:46pm

Seen on Anti-CAIR
Unindicted Co-Conspirator CAIR "Speaks For" Foreign Pipebomb Carrying Suspect? ***Road Trip Ends With Arrests***

Ahmed Mohamed's trip ended in a South Carolina jail cell. But, it started when he was kicked out of his home ... His former housemate says right from the beginning, Mohamed kept her up late at night as he entertained friends. Tampa Police records show Mohamed was cited for shooting at squirrels with a high powered pellet gun last month. Mohamed's housemate says around that same time, she got tired of the late nights and told him to leave ... Speaking through the Tampa Council on American Islamic relations, his family says Megahed may have left un-used fireworks from the fourth of July in the trunk of the Toyota sedan the two were driving. Police dispute this, saying the explosives were not fireworks, but pipe bombs built from materials purchased at Wal-Mart. CAIR also says Megahed may have initiated the trip; he wanted to sightsee in the Carolina's ...
237 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:31:05pm
238 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:31:08pm

re: #225 loppyd

re: #208 NoSubmission
And we ended up with grown men on skateboards.

I haven't seen that one!


Just come to my neighborhood. Stinky hipsters in beards tootling around in packs on skateboards. I'm convinced it's a sign of Stan. Men who aren't men and never will be.

239 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:31:09pm

re: #235 Ginn


LOL!

240 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:31:27pm

Isn't baloney just.....raw hot dogs?

241 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:31:51pm
242 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:32:00pm

re: #238 NoSubmission

The Grand Pussification of the American Male.

Disgusting.

243 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:32:03pm
244 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:32:06pm

re: #237 buzzsawmonkey

re: #233 loppyd

Is that indeterminate age between early 20s and mid-30s grownup enough for you?

Yep. I would say 21 would be the cut off.

245 republic  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:32:12pm

Just like the lady said in the first video,

"You either adhere/worship to the 5 pillars of Islam, or you don't."

This clearly illistrates that there is no in between.

To be a true Muslim/Islamic, a person either believes it all, or they are not true Muslims/Islamics.

This is why there is no such thing as a "moderate" Islamic.

Everyone has been talking for quite some time, "where are voices of the moderate Muslims"?

The reason you don't hear them, is because there are none.

246 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:32:21pm

re: #236 LSD

Seen on Anti-CAIR
Unindicted Co-Conspirator CAIR "Speaks For" Foreign Pipebomb Carrying Suspect? ***Road Trip Ends With Arrests***


Ahmed Mohamed's trip ended in a South Carolina jail cell. But, it started when he was kicked out of his home ... His former housemate says right from the beginning, Mohamed kept her up late at night as he entertained friends. Tampa Police records show Mohamed was cited for shooting at squirrels with a high powered pellet gun last month. Mohamed's housemate says around that same time, she got tired of the late nights and told him to leave ... Speaking through the Tampa Council on American Islamic relations, his family says Megahed may have left un-used fireworks from the fourth of July in the trunk of the Toyota sedan the two were driving. Police dispute this, saying the explosives were not fireworks, but pipe bombs built from materials purchased at Wal-Mart. CAIR also says Megahed may have initiated the trip; he wanted to sightsee in the Carolina's ...

Walmart Pipe Bombs?

247 Whammo  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:32:40pm

re: #236 LSD

Seen on Anti-CAIR
Unindicted Co-Conspirator CAIR "Speaks For" Foreign Pipebomb Carrying Suspect? ***Road Trip Ends With Arrests***


Ahmed Mohamed's trip ended in a South Carolina jail cell. But, it started when he was kicked out of his home ... His former housemate says right from the beginning, Mohamed kept her up late at night as he entertained friends. Tampa Police records show Mohamed was cited for shooting at squirrels with a high powered pellet gun last month. Mohamed's housemate says around that same time, she got tired of the late nights and told him to leave ... Speaking through the Tampa Council on American Islamic relations, his family says Megahed may have left un-used fireworks from the fourth of July in the trunk of the Toyota sedan the two were driving. Police dispute this, saying the explosives were not fireworks, but pipe bombs built from materials purchased at Wal-Mart. CAIR also says Megahed may have initiated the trip; he wanted to sightsee in the Carolina's ...

Doesn't everybody set off pipe bombs on Independence day? Sheesh!

248 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:32:54pm

re: #213 loppyd

I can see getting rid of see-saws--they were instruments of torture for bullies and pinheads.

249 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:33:08pm

re: #240 BabbaZee

Isn't baloney just.....raw hot dogs?

It is?

Man, I am double screwed!

250 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:33:15pm

re: #244 loppyd

re: #237 buzzsawmonkey

re: #233 loppyd

Is that indeterminate age between early 20s and mid-30s grownup enough for you?

Yep. I would say 21 would be the cut off.


I say even lower. If you are over 17 on a skateboard you are in serious trouble of permanent retardation.

251 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:33:24pm

re: #175 BabbaZee

I had not seen that. Fabulous! That should be mandatory viewing for every sane LGF member. Of course, you do recognize because the evil Pat Robertson was the moderator, it will be condemned?

Though no Pat Robertson fan, I do admit that he is very, very wise.

252 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:33:37pm

re: #243 buzzsawmonkey

[insert laughing spastic nicotine deprived crabmonster here]

BTW
Why is quitting smoking causing me to be spastic and inarticulate?
Anyone?
Anyone?

253 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:33:53pm

re: #242 BabbaZee

re: #238 NoSubmission

The Grand Pussification of the American Male.

Disgusting.


It's much much worse than you ever dared dreamed. I see it all around me. Everyday.

254 TimeQuake  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:33:58pm

This S.C. arrest...did the police take pictures of what was inside the trunk of the car before the bomb squad blew them up? Wouldn't that be normal procedure?

255 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:34:01pm

re: #238 NoSubmission

Do their girlfriends look like they need blood transfusions?

256 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:34:14pm

re: #218 Silhouette

I had a friend who would use a tractor to get over a large armory's fencing to steal nitrous oxide.

257 cagney  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:34:17pm

there is no such thing are british mulsim's only muslim britons.

258 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:34:33pm

Nah, see-saws were lessons in leverage, since it is rare that two children weigh precisely the same. Someone was always scootching forward or backwards to make it balance.

And trust. Big lessons in trust, and when not to. ;-)

259 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:34:47pm

re: #252 BabbaZee

re: #243 buzzsawmonkey

[insert laughing spastic nicotine deprived crabmonster here]

BTW
Why is quitting smoking causing me to be spastic and inarticulate?
Anyone?
Anyone?

You're brain is getting more oxygen than it's used to, and it's making you giddy. I'm serious.

260 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:34:53pm

re: #252 BabbaZee

Too scared to reply...

261 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:34:59pm

BZ, I would add that 15 minute flick is far more effective at describing true Islam than anything I have witnessed here on LGF. Thank you for sharing that.

262 AirForceWife  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:35:10pm

#222 ploome hineni 8/07/2007 1:27:26 pm PDT reply quote

muslims don;t celebrate birthdays

How can they have time to celebrate birthdays? With so much celebration of death and misery to do and all?

263 tokyobk  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:35:51pm

I think there are probably many people who are moderate who are also Muslim, in fact I know a few. What there is not is moderate Islam and that is a reality that is going to have to be accepted before any real progress is made in defending the Western tradition and at the same time allowing freedom of religion.

264 Whammo  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:35:52pm

I quit smoking 3 years ago with God's help. It will take a while to feel normal again. You can do it.

265 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:36:21pm

brb gonna' kill my father

266 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:36:27pm

Well I happen to love baloney.

And Spam.

So there.

267 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:36:47pm

re: #255 loppyd

re: #238 NoSubmission

Do their girlfriends look like they need blood transfusions?


They need baths. And psychiatric help.

268 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:36:49pm

I didn't see nuthin.

269 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:36:51pm
270 republic  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:37:13pm

re: #224 docremulac

I guarantee, if invaders from another planet came to enslave mankind and said they needed some humans to help put the others in line, the liberals would put their hands up so fast your head would spin.

I guarentee if invaders came from anywhere on this earth, to defeat the pro-Western people, the leftists would have their hands up.

This is why the left supports any and all evil on this earth, by appeasement, by surrender, by inaction, by outright support.

I have said it for quite some time, and it certainly has a very good chance of being shown by history to be accurate, and that is, the left just may be the death of the USA and the West.

Maybe, just as Rome fell from within, not by being conquered by foreigners.

"A house divided"

271 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:37:21pm

re: #240 BabbaZee

Isn't baloney just.....raw hot dogs?

Baloney, hot dogs, sausage...
Don't ask.....

272 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:37:34pm

Buzz

I'm with ploome on this. Islam is a cult. It doesn't matter to me if it has ten members or several billion members.

273 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:37:48pm
274 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:38:06pm

re: #271 jcm


Baloney, hot dogs, sausage...
Don't ask.....

Just feel the love.

275 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:38:11pm
276 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:38:11pm

Well are we going to have to bail Eurostans ass out for a third time? Or are they just going to prostrate themselves for the sword? I don't see too many people standing up against this madness, and when they do they get arrested WTF?!

277 lioness  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:38:52pm

re: #252 BabbaZee

BabbaZee ~

Are you quitting cold turkey?

I have been thinking about quitting (avoiding making the decision to quit for months) for a while.

I was told that there is a new pill that has had good success, it makes you throw up if you smoke. I'm not sure I want to go that route.

278 highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:39:26pm

179 buzzsawmonkey 8/07/2007 1:13:40 pm PDT reply quote

I've got news for you; a number of Jewish values, and Christian values, are "in direct opposition to basic Western humanist values." Most Jews and most Christians, however, subscribe sufficiently to the basic Western humanist value of tolerance to enable us all to get along together, most of the time.


Let's be fair here, buzz, this isn't a basic western humanist value imo. My God does not call for the death of non believers by my hand. HE is the one that tells me he will take care of them in the end if they still do not believe.

Now, their god on the other hand.........wants me dead. If that were not in their bylaws, LGF and many other websites focused on exposing this threat would have a lot less to write about.

279 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:39:37pm

re: #251 goodbye_natalie

It was Walid I wanted people to see.
I LOVE Walid.


Pat, well, he's a probably a very nice old man.
Wise, well...maybe he seems wise sometimes, because he knows, believes and can repeat the Bible.
But like most "religious spirits" as I call them, he has too much invested in dogma and he displays a bit too much of the
I-Me-Mine for my tastes.

280 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:40:15pm

re: #273 buzzsawmonkey

re: #241 ploome hineni

I'm not saying it isn't a cult; I'm just saying that calling it a cult is not going to get the point across, when most people consider a "cult" something adhered to only by a small fringe group. A billion-plus adherents makes "cult" appellation sound ridiculous to the ear of the very people you want to persuade.

And, of course, what with freedom of religion and all, there is nothing illegal about being a cult, or a member of a cult--as long as you stay within the bounds of the law. During the Reformation, Protestants killed Catholics and Catholics killed Protestants for adhering to the "wrong" form of Christian belief. Christians have grown past that. If Muslims are punished for acting out their anti-social beliefs, instead of excuses being made for those beliefs, they may eventually figure out a way to grow past them too.

Who am I trying to persuade?

No one.

Remember, Buzz, I'm an infidel and a woman. If I were a Jew it would be three strikes and I would be out.

281 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:40:28pm

there are 3600 people online at LGF right now. you ever wonder what they're all doing?

282 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:40:45pm

re: #259 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh GTFOH, that cant be!

I am SO FAR from Giddy.... I cant tell you.

I'm dangerous, not giddy.

GAH!

283 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:40:58pm

re: #277 lioness
Haven't heard about that one. the navy had one for alcoholics that would do that. Damn nicotine anyway.

284 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:41:19pm

re: #281 bosforus

there are 3600 people online at LGF right now. you ever wonder what they're all doing?

Reading your post!

285 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:41:51pm

re: #279 BabbaZee

The most interesting part of that entire episode was the last five minutes about the Caliphate and the Ottoman Empire. I had never really ever considered Walid's point about the eastern half of the Roman Empire.

Hmmm....

286 republic  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:42:05pm

re: #281 bosforus

there are 3600 people online at LGF right now. you ever wonder what they're all doing?


Some are probably seething.

287 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:42:12pm

re: #284 Ginn

re: #281 bosforus

there are 3600 people online at LGF right now. you ever wonder what they're all doing?

Reading your post!

awwww crap

288 Prisoner of Diesel  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:42:30pm

re: #281 bosforus

there are 3600 people online at LGF right now. you ever wonder what they're all doing?

Nothing productive? Guilty!

289 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:42:33pm

re: #261 goodbye_natalie

Walid is the MAN

290 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:42:35pm

re: #281 bosforusExercising their minds with intelligent discourse. Not watching twaddle on the tube!

291 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:42:57pm

Hospitals are shutting down burn centers

U.S. hospitals are increasingly shutting down their burn centers in a trend experts say could leave the nation unable to handle widespread burn casualties from a fiery terrorist attack or other major disaster.
292 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:43:01pm

Seaking of pork fat, Giada is making short ribs.

sweet lord, they look good....

293 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:43:24pm

re: #286 republic

Why seething? Some of us just don't know where this discussion has been and that makes it hard to jump in.

294 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:43:48pm

re: #281 bosforus

there are 3600 people online at LGF right now. you ever wonder what they're all doing?


Craving baloney or a cigarette.

295 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:43:53pm

re: #277 lioness

Yes
Behold Cold Turkey Jive Babba

lol

296 vxbush  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:43:59pm

Garfgh....

297 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:44:01pm

re: #289 BabbaZee

IMHO, he should easily be nominated LGF's anti-idiotarian of the year for that presentation alone. I had heard him before but never at length.

298 republic  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:44:02pm

re: #293 David E

re: #286 republic

Why seething? Some of us just don't know where this discussion has been and that makes it hard to jump in.


I mean the ones who hate us and LGF.

299 insanity police  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:44:08pm

O/T
I just asked a woman at work if she knew what jihad was. Her answer: "It's either a holy war, or the pilgrimage that Muslims make to Mecca."

300 AirForceWife  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:44:32pm

#276 pingjockey 8/07/2007 1:38:11 pm PDT reply quote

Well are we going to have to bail Eurostans ass out for a third time? Or are they just going to prostrate themselves for the sword? I don't see too many people standing up against this madness, and when they do they get arrested WTF?!

Bull! They better have to sleep in the beds they are making next time. I have no sympathy. People can take back their country or get what they have coming and that includes the U.S.

I will always mourne for the innocent, but as a collective society, we are creating our own demise.

301 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:44:40pm

Hulk wants baloney cigarettes

302 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:44:49pm

Seething and loving at the same time~

303 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:44:59pm

Baloney or a cigarette? LOL

Dig out the Oscar Meyer. I would recommend the beef portions.

304 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:45:13pm

Non Filtered Spams?

305 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:45:35pm
306 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:45:39pm

re: #281 bosforus

there are 3600 people online at LGF right now. you ever wonder what they're all doing?

And, do they have their pants on?

307 highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:45:44pm

re: #299 insanity police

O/T
I just asked a woman at work if she knew what jihad was. Her answer: "It's either a holy war, or the pilgrimage that Muslims make to Mecca."

Now Holey..I buy..bodies full of holes...by gunshot, swords, drills.....

308 Render  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:46:27pm

I think we just saw the next "great" terrorist strike. Or at least part of it.

Fuses, detonaters, and pipe bombs. Between a mile or so away from the gates of a US Navy base that stores several hundred million pounds of explosive.

Those two bumbling idiots are the next wave in the jihad that couldn't bomb straight.

I also think that's why CAIR's HAMAS leadership has already dropped every single possible excuse it can, in just two statements.

SO
FAR,
R

309 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:46:35pm

re: #306 MandyManners

re: #281 bosforus

there are 3600 people online at LGF right now. you ever wonder what they're all doing?

And, do they have their pants on?

LOL!

310 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:46:58pm

While he was with him this afternoon, The Kid persuaded my father to get him a new PS2 game. I forgot to tell my dad that he had been whining for one earlier so, it's my own dingdangity fault.

311 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:47:05pm

re: #273 buzzsawmonkey

excuses being made for those beliefs, they may eventually figure out a way to grow past them too.


You see but they wont, they can't there is no room in the Koran for that

The Christians doing the killing had PERVERTED the Bible.

The Muslims doing the killing are FOLLOWING the Koran

Big difference.

Islam is a doctrine of death.

No way around it.

312 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:47:09pm

re: #305 buzzsawmonkey

re: #280 Ginn

Who am I trying to persuade?

No one.

Well, we were talking upthread about convincing people what Islam is all about who have not yet gotten the word.

Sorry, Buzz.

I have very little powers of persuasion.

313 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:47:41pm

re: #297 goodbye_natalie

He is amazing, tireless, speaking everywhere he can as often as he can.

314 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:47:52pm

re: #300 AirForceWife
That's true, we are the good guys, however and we must fight this darkness. My thoughts and prayers for your husband. Military wife=toughest job in the world.

315 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:48:04pm

re: #306 MandyManners

re: #281 bosforus

there are 3600 people online at LGF right now. you ever wonder what they're all doing?
And, do they have their pants on?

Raises hand.

I do!

316 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:48:09pm

re: #289 BabbaZee

re: #261 goodbye_natalie

Walid is the MAN

Is there a fatwa on him?

317 lioness  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:48:46pm

re: #295 BabbaZee

LOL ~

I made it 6 days about 2 years ago ~ started gaining weight immediately even though I was eating the same. Nicotine increases your metabolism.
Was so freaked out that my clothes were seriously tight in 6 short days that I ran to the store and bought a pack and I've been smoking since.

318 republic  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:49:05pm

re: #300 AirForceWife

#276 pingjockey 8/07/2007 1:38:11 pm PDT reply quote


Well are we going to have to bail Eurostans ass out for a third time? Or are they just going to prostrate themselves for the sword? I don't see too many people standing up against this madness, and when they do they get arrested WTF?!

Bull! They better have to sleep in the beds they are making next time. I have no sympathy. People can take back their country or get what they have coming and that includes the U.S.

I will always mourne for the innocent, but as a collective society, we are creating our own demise.

I'm with you.

Unfortunately, I don't see any relief from the serious terminal diseases called leftism, multiculturalism, and political correctness.

If that could be broken, we'd have a chance.

319 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:49:05pm

re: #316 MandyManners

His own father and brother have sworn to kill him, yes

320 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:49:35pm

re: #315 Ginn

I'd probably get fired if i didn't, tightwads.

321 Buckeye Abroad  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:49:53pm

#242 Babbazee

The Grand Pussification of the American Male.

I assure you American men are here (and all over the world)--- we usually don't make the news or hang out in public places as we have families, obligations and jobs to look after.

322 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:49:57pm

re: #291 NoSubmission

Hospitals are shutting down burn centers


U.S. hospitals are increasingly shutting down their burn centers in a trend experts say could leave the nation unable to handle widespread burn casualties from a fiery terrorist attack or other major disaster.

Penny wise, pound foolish.

323 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:50:27pm

re: #308 Render

I think we just saw the next "great" terrorist strike. Or at least part of it.

Fuses, detonaters, and pipe bombs. Between a mile or so away from the gates of a US Navy base that stores several hundred million pounds of explosive.

Those two bumbling idiots are the next wave in the jihad that couldn't bomb straight.

I also think that's why CAIR's HAMAS leadership has already dropped every single possible excuse it can, in just two statements.

SO
FAR,
R

I'm sure the MSM will give us all the facts about this story.
Well, some facts.
Okay, no facts and no story.

324 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:50:28pm

re: #298 republic

Oh yeah, the moonbattery.

325 Jehu  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:51:00pm

I think all believers in "moderate," Islam need to watch that video of the Walid Shoebat interview that BZ linked to. Course we have had experts (that boasted endlessly of their fact-checking of various and sundry asses) here on LGF that swear they hang out with and know lots of moderate Muslims, I am sure their expertise is far more than an X-terrorist Muslim in these matters.

326 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:51:06pm

re: #320 bosforus

re: #315 Ginn

I'd probably get fired if i didn't, tightwads.

Bummer!

327 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:51:13pm

I was able to sneak a little of the video in just now....

2000 muslims under surveillance by MI5?
Makes me wonder how many are under surveillance here.

328 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:51:18pm

re: #317 lioness

AND ... I am on prednisone to boot , so weight gain and anger are all enhanced, woo hoo!
I gained 20lbs since April (that's how long I've been on it uninterrupted now)
BUT... I was very skinny before that due to some of my health problems... so I am only approaching "chubby" right now.
I am eating like a pig. I am sure I will gain 20 more.

Good thing I have stretchy pants. LOL

329 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:51:39pm
330 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:51:50pm

re: #321 Buckeye Abroad

#242 Babbazee

The Grand Pussification of the American Male.

I assure you American men are here (and all over the world)--- we usually don't make the news or hang out in public places as we have families, obligations and jobs to look after.

Hi Buckeye!

Great post!

American men, the greatest men on the face of the planet!

331 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:52:04pm

re: #321 Buckeye Abroad

I didn't mean you, I meant the eunuchs on the skateboards. And Chen Zen.

LOL

332 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:52:34pm

re: #308 Render

I doubt I'm not the only one who believes that the authorities were watching Mo and Megadeath.

333 highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:52:39pm

re: #325 Jehu


Plus you never really know how deep someone's beliefs go in that death cult..seriously..until the shit hits the fan.

And that is where I wish I had a crystal ball in my hand..but it doesn't exist...so I must go with what they print about what to do with my head and how unacceptable that is to me and my country.

334 loppyd  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:53:20pm

Time to make some hot dogs!

See you later.

335 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:53:23pm

re: #326 Ginn

re: #320 bosforus

re: #315 Ginn

I'd probably get fired if i didn't, tightwads.

Bummer!

and they call this the land of the free!

336 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:53:45pm

re: #331 BabbaZee


Speaking of him, has he posted lately?

337 republic  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:54:08pm

re: #324 David E

re: #298 republic

Oh yeah, the moonbattery.


Yea, them, and their twins in sickness, people like Bungwholewalla, and such.

338 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:54:17pm

Babbazee

(sings Mary Tyler Moore Song)
(and some of the lyrics)

Love is all around why need to show it
la la la dah da dee hmm mm mmmm

You're Gonna Make It After All!

339 Ben Hur  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:55:01pm

yea yea.....

340 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:55:05pm

re: #321 Buckeye Abroad

#242 Babbazee
The Grand Pussification of the American Male.
I assure you American men are here (and all over the world)--- we usually don't make the news or hang out in public places as we have families, obligations and jobs to look after.


I was referring to the freaks who have invaded my neighborhood who look like this and much worse. I know there are real men out there.

341 formercorpsman  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:55:13pm

re: #328 BabbaZee

re: #317 lioness

AND ... I am on prednisone to boot , so weight gain and anger are all enhanced, woo hoo!
I gained 20lbs since April (that's how long I've been on it uninterrupted now)
BUT... I was very skinny before that due to some of my health problems... so I am only approaching "chubby" right now.
I am eating like a pig. I am sure I will gain 20 more.

Good thing I have stretchy pants. LOL

Mmmmmm......

Stretch pants, is there anything they can't do?

Homer off.

342 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:55:15pm

re: #319 BabbaZee

re: #316 MandyManners

His own father and brother have sworn to kill him, yes

Family affair, eh?

343 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:55:17pm

re: #336 David E

I dunno, I scroll over him ....
probably.

344 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:55:41pm

re: #335 bosforus

re: #326 Ginn

re: #320 bosforus
re: #315 Ginn

I'd probably get fired if i didn't, tightwads.

Bummer!
and they call this the land of the free!

lol. I can take my pants off if I want to.

345 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:55:44pm

re: #340 NoSubmission

exactly.

346 republic  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:55:45pm

re: #329 NoSubmission

From the Hey-not-a-problem-at-all dept:
Egyptian Court in Controversial Ruling: Christians Who Convert to Islam Cannot Convert Back


The left has a similar rule: Christians who convert to leftism cannot convert back.

347 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:55:47pm

re: #310 MandyManners


My daughter is old enough that she has to buy her own games with money she has earned.

348 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:55:49pm

re: #292 loppyd

Seaking of pork fat, Giada is making short ribs.

sweet lord, they look good....

'THEY DO",,, or she does ?

349 lioness  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:56:21pm

re: #328 BabbaZee

BabbaZee ~

When did you stop smoking? How many days smoke free?

350 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:56:22pm

re: #338 Ginn

I believe I am the Rhoda.

LOL

351 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:56:32pm

re: #330 Ginn I have 3 boys, two teens and a under 10 and i tell them if you aren't bleeding you're not hurt! Luckily here in E. Wash. state we don't have a lot of pc, multi culti nonsense. So i hope they'll take after me and my dad(grandpa). Skateboards + dad = lots of laughs, dad falls on ass looks like fool. boys greatly entertained!

352 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:56:44pm

re: #343 BabbaZee

re: #336 David E

I dunno, I scroll over him ....
probably.

I wonder what the Scroll marks look like?

353 ec marm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:56:57pm

re: #336 David E

re: #331 BabbaZee


Speaking of him, has he posted lately?

He wrote some piece on the bridge collapse that blamed Iraq and GWB on his blog. The moonbats loved it and made it one of WordPress' top posts. I went over (DesertSage, too I think) and set the record straight. But it's a waste of keystrokes.

354 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:57:09pm

re: #345 BabbaZee

re: #340 NoSubmission

exactly.

& This was a mild one.
Here, take a pamphlet.

355 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:57:13pm
356 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:57:14pm

re: #349 lioness

I am not sure, seriously!
I think this is day 3.

I am telling you
my brain is addled since I did this.

357 Silhouette  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:57:28pm

re: #333 highrise

Plus you never really know how deep someone's beliefs go in that death cult..seriously..until the shit hits the fan.

Which is one of the reasons I'm firmly in support of things like Mo cartoons. If any one is willing to kill over a book going in a toilet, I'd like to know it as soon as possible.

358 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:57:32pm

re: #354 NoSubmission

rotf with the pamphlet

359 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:57:42pm

re: #350 BabbaZee

re: #338 Ginn

I believe I am the Rhoda.

LOL

Rhoda! Rhoda! Rhhhhooooodddddaaaaaaaaa!

A Streetcar Named Mary Tyler Moore

360 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:57:50pm

re: #352 Ginn


Grey tread?

361 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:58:03pm

re: #334 loppyd

I'm doing sauer kraut with brauts (sp?) and mac-and-cheese from scratch. Gotta' grate 1.5 oz. of American cheese which is hard 'cause it's a very soft cheese so I have it in the freezer for now.

362 AirForceWife  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:58:06pm

#314 pingjockey 8/07/2007 1:47:52 pm PDT reply quote

re: #300 AirForceWife
That's true, we are the good guys, however and we must fight this darkness. My thoughts and prayers for your husband. Military wife=toughest job in the world.

True, true. The good can never give up the fight. Thanks for the kind words.

363 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:58:14pm
364 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:58:55pm

Ginn
"American men, the greatest men on the face of the planet!"

But there are exceptions.

365 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:58:57pm

re: #360 David E

re: #352 Ginn


Grey tread?

Tiny Track marks!

366 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:59:09pm

re: #355 ploome hineni

Oh .....theres a million of them!
Lying through your teeth,
putting yourself before all others,
making money your GOD
nasty to parents and elders
LALALLALALLALA infinty!

367 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:59:13pm

re: #344 Ginn

re: #335 bosforus

re: #326 Ginn

re: #320 bosforus

re: #315 GinnI'd probably get fired if i didn't, tightwads.

Bummer!

and they call this the land of the free!

lol. I can take my pants off if I want to.

well, i don't know that i can't. i don't remember seeing anything in the employee handbook...hmmm

368 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 1:59:30pm

re: #347 David E

He's done that once with a PS2. He saved up a long, long time. Then, he saw a game that he wanted that didn't cost $39.00 so he got it and another regular toy. And, he still had money. He was proud of himself.

369 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:00:07pm

re: #363 ploome hineni

LOLOLOLOL!

I overscroll lots of people.

370 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:00:11pm

re: #367 bosforus

re: #344 Ginn

re: #335 bosforus
re: #326 Ginn
re: #320 bosforus
re: #315 GinnI'd probably get fired if i didn't, tightwads.
Bummer!
and they call this the land of the free!
lol. I can take my pants off if I want to.
well, i don't know that i can't. i don't remember seeing anything in the employee handbook...hmmm

I would Double Dog Dare you but it wouldn't be fair.

371 lioness  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:00:15pm

re: #356 BabbaZee

I was told to drink lots of water to flush out my body and avoid caffeine. I would seriously be in a coma without my caffeine. They say that caffeine can trigger cravings.

372 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:00:28pm

re: #361 MandyManners
Mac and Cheese with AMERICAN CHEESE !?!?!?!

Way to cook, Wendy WhiteBread!

373 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:00:44pm

re: #352 Ginn

re: #343 BabbaZee

re: #336 David E

I dunno, I scroll over him ....
probably.

I wonder what the Scroll marks look like?

Laser mouse.

Laser burns?

374 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:00:46pm
375 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:00:52pm

re: #368 MandyManners

Sounds like your are doing a good job. have you discused the time value of money with him?

376 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:01:47pm

re: #353 ec marm

Oh, Ewww.

LOL!

You can nominate him for worst blog.

377 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:01:58pm

re: #366 BabbaZee

re: #355 ploome hineni

Oh .....theres a million of them!
Lying through your teeth,
putting yourself before all others,
making money your GOD
nasty to parents and elders
LALALLALALLALA infinty!

Those aren't values that are in opposition to Western values and beliefs, those are individual human frailties

378 highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:02:16pm

re: #325 Jehu

I think all believers in "moderate," Islam need to watch that video of the Walid Shoebat interview that BZ linked to. Course we have had experts (that boasted endlessly of their fact-checking of various and sundry asses) here on LGF that swear they hang out with and know lots of moderate Muslims, I am sure their expertise is far more than an X-terrorist Muslim in these matters.

I have a story like this.

One day I walked into my black best friend's (now an ex best friend mind you) office from years of working with him. On his email was an activist email that called for all whites to be hung.

NEVER EVER in a freakin million years would I have thought those words would be sanctioned by him.

So I shoved that thought away because after all, I knew him for years and NO WAY could he be like that. His convos and mine were often of the bill cosby persuasion..take responsibility and get an education blah blah..don't feel sorry for yourself....kind of stuff. I figured I must be mistaken with what I saw.

Fast forward 4 more years later..I am sitting down with him for lunch along with some other ex coworkers and he proceeds to join in the convo with the others on how all republicans need to be hung and shot and how west wing is a republican conspiracy to run policy for our nation. They did not know I was republican, we never talked politics before that day believe it or not.

The parallel I'm trying to draw here, is you really don't know what people believe and it can come out much much later and you'd never suspect it.

379 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:02:40pm

re: #370 Ginn

re: #367 bosforus

re: #344 Ginn

re: #335 bosforus

re: #326 Ginn
re: #320 bosforus
re: #315 GinnI'd probably get fired if i didn't, tightwads.

Bummer!

and they call this the land of the free!

lol. I can take my pants off if I want to.

well, i don't know that i can't. i don't remember seeing anything in the employee handbook...hmmm

I would Double Dog Dare you but it wouldn't be fair.

maybe if i wasn't in such a high traffic area i could try for a few minutes. it would take all of 20 seconds where i currently am to get caught. :( oh well, another dream shattered by our oppressive culture

380 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:02:42pm

re: #371 lioness

I drink tons of water, I have to because of the stuff I take to digest my food.
But I still had coffee today.

381 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:03:00pm

re: #379 bosforus

Hahahaha!

382 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:03:14pm
383 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:03:34pm

re: #377 sattv4u2

They are not Secular Humanist values.
period.

384 republic  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:04:02pm

re: #357 Silhouette

re: #333 highrise


Plus you never really know how deep someone's beliefs go in that death cult..seriously..until the shit hits the fan.

Which is one of the reasons I'm firmly in support of things like Mo cartoons. If any one is willing to kill over a book going in a toilet, I'd like to know it as soon as possible.

But, like the guy in the video said, they can go from having empathy for homicide bombers, to actually straping a bomb on, in as little as 1-1/2 weeks.

They may seem like the nicest person you have ever met, never say or do anything remotely resembling anything other than being a good decent human being, and then.......

Muhammad Atta, and the other 18 9/11 highjackers fit that description.

That's what makes this war even more difficult, especially with the political correctness dogging every step of trying to defend ourselves.

385 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:04:12pm

re: #375 David E

He knows that if he pisses it away, it doesn't magically reappear.

386 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:04:12pm

re: #382 MandyManners

I need a towel for my drool...

387 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:04:41pm

re: #362 AirForceWife
Retired navy. The color guard from Fairchild AFB comes over and leads off the memorial day parade here. All five were female e6 to e8. Us 3 from the vfw were laughing about it being the highest paid color guard we'd ever seen. Us = one e6, one pfc and one sgt. They were very, very sharp. Thanks again for your families service.

388 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:04:42pm

re: #386 goddessoftheclassroom

Yep.

Drool break over for me. I gotta' go grate some cheese.

389 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:04:42pm

Heading out now. See you on the other side.
:)

390 highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:04:59pm

re: #378 highrise

They did not know I was republican, we never talked politics before that day believe it or not.

Actually, I wasn't republican at the time, I was registered independent..but given this convo and then the pelosi/howard dean/murtha/kerry crap, I finally switched over.

But it affected me that much.

391 Occasional Reader  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:05:19pm
On his email was an activist email that called for all whites to be hung.

What if I already am?

392 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:05:40pm

re: #383 BabbaZee

One does not have to be either a person of faith nor a secularist to have human faults. Many athiests have better "values" than some religious leaders.
Exclamtion Point

393 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:05:56pm

re: #391 Occasional Reader

oh hohohoho

394 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:06:17pm
395 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:06:24pm

re: #388 MandyManners


Cheese mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

396 lioness  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:06:29pm

re: #380 BabbaZee


BabbaZee ~

I say a prayer for your healing and blessings :)

397 Jehu  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:06:41pm

355 ploome hineni

Yep so many human-freeing values that Judaism and Christianity are opposed too. Heck Western Civilization came forth IN SPITE of the reformation, anti-slavery writing and thinking from Christians and Jews, founders of Western science that were so pathetically deluded as to be Christians, men like Newton, Kepler, that were brilliant beyond belief, but somehow so primitive and stupid as to believe in a creator God.

Not like our modern progressives that are so compassionate they would not fight any war, no matter how many it saved. Why our progressives have given us wonderful ghettos, pop culture, and havoc instead of freedom with responsibility, something that will stand far longer than the pitiful tree of civilization grown from the soil of Christian-Jewish ideals. We are so lucky to be in the presence of such profound beings.

398 ec marm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:06:43pm

re: #376 BabbaZee

You can nominate him for worst blog.

They need more negative categories. Like:
And the nominee for "Eunuch Skateboarding Blogger" is:

399 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:06:57pm

re: #392 sattv4u2

yes they do
exclamation point back

So?

400 AirForceWife  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:06:59pm

#340 NoSubmission 8/07/2007 1:55:05 pm PDT reply quote

re: #321 Buckeye Abroad

#242 Babbazee
The Grand Pussification of the American Male.
I assure you American men are here (and all over the world)--- we usually don't make the news or hang out in public places as we have families, obligations and jobs to look after.

I was referring to the freaks who have invaded my neighborhood who look like this and much worse. I know there are real men out there.

I can't deny that most skateboarders are freaks. I have to say though that both of my sons and my 36 year old husband are very good at skateboarding. My husband is just an awesome athlete all around and one would be hard pressed to find a man of his age in better physical shape. Also the smartest person I've ever known. Sadly, skateboarding has attracted a lot of degenerates and they talk a lot of trash. My kids just show them up to shut them up.

401 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:07:05pm

re: #375 David E

re: #368 MandyManners

Sounds like your are doing a good job. have you discused the time value of money with him?

My wife has trouble with the money value of time, i.e. it's not worth driving even a few blocks to save 10 cents on a roast.

In some respects I have trouble with that one, that it is cheaper, my time value wise to hire some one to do a job, than to do it myself.

402 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:07:13pm

re: #396 lioness

thanks honey

403 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:07:47pm

re: #398 ec marm

LOL!

404 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:08:02pm

re: #382 MandyManners

American man.

Another one.

And, yet another one.

oh god, there goes the thread ;-)

405 highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:08:04pm

re: #391 Occasional Reader


haha..I had to read it a few times before I caught the meaning :P .

406 opinionated  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:08:27pm

They say it's all about the Ummah. That all Muslims are one. Must and will come to each others aid against the Infidel.

So, again, we are selling our friends the Saudis sophisticated arms to fight, who exactly?

[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

407 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:08:36pm
408 republic  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:08:37pm

re: #392 sattv4u2

re: #383 BabbaZee

One does not have to be either a person of faith nor a secularist to have human faults. Many athiests have better "values" than some religious leaders.
Exclamtion Point

Everyone has many faults, if they are honest with themselves.

409 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:09:13pm

re: #394 ploome hineni


Again, those are INDIVIDUAL faults, not endemic of the entire western humanist values

410 republic  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:09:43pm

re: #397 Jehu

355 ploome hineni

Yep so many human-freeing values that Judaism and Christianity are opposed too. Heck Western Civilization came forth IN SPITE of the reformation, anti-slavery writing and thinking from Christians and Jews, founders of Western science that were so pathetically deluded as to be Christians, men like Newton, Kepler, that were brilliant beyond belief, but somehow so primitive and stupid as to believe in a creator God.

Not like our modern progressives that are so compassionate they would not fight any war, no matter how many it saved. Why our progressives have given us wonderful ghettos, pop culture, and havoc instead of freedom with responsibility, something that will stand far longer than the pitiful tree of civilization grown from the soil of Christian-Jewish ideals. We are so lucky to be in the presence of such profound beings.

Well said jehu!

411 Eowyn2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:09:52pm

re: #392 sattv4u2

re: #383 BabbaZee

One does not have to be either a person of faith nor a secularist to have human faults. Many athiests have better "values" than some religious leaders.
Exclamtion Point

but one must be human.

412 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:10:11pm
413 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:10:57pm
414 Eowyn2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:11:17pm

re: #382 MandyManners

Thanks for the pick-me-up.

415 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:11:17pm

re: #391 Occasional Reader

On his email was an activist email that called for all whites to be hung.
What if I already am?

lol!

416 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:11:26pm

re: #406 opinionated Hopefully ah'madinner jacket and not the Israelis. But with those looney tunes over there who knows. I don't understand our foreign policy half the time, slam our friends arm our enemies. Madness.

417 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:12:12pm
418 formercorpsman  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:12:19pm

re: #391 Occasional Reader

On his email was an activist email that called for all whites to be hung.

What if I already am?

Thou protesteth too much?

419 ProUSA  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:12:19pm

re: #6 ploome hineni

what they have to do 'as a British society' is to deport these muslims

and stop this verbal masturbation

all this talk of 'finding common ground' is essentially Christians submitting

then there will be comon ground

Either muslims become apostate, or we MUST dpeort them

Exactly. Forget about moving the peak in the bell curve, and just get serious with the threat. Start but eliminating all PC laws and attitudes -- PC is one of the Muslim weapons (just like using our own passenger planes against us).

420 Buckeye Abroad  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:13:35pm

#330 Ginn

American men, the greatest men on the face of the planet!

Great compliment, but every barrel has a couple of bad apples ;)

#331 Babbazee

I didn't mean you, I meant the eunuchs on the skateboards.

A thousand pardons! I have a younger brother who is turning 17 and still a skateboarder... I thought that would all change when he got his drivers license. Hmmmmmmmmm. Me thinks I will ask him about military service in September.

421 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:13:49pm
422 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:14:41pm

re: #420 Buckeye Abroad

#330 Ginn

American men, the greatest men on the face of the planet!

Great compliment, but every barrel has a couple of bad apples ;)

#331 Babbazee

I didn't mean you, I meant the eunuchs on the skateboards.

A thousand pardons! I have a younger brother who is turning 17 and still a skateboarder... I thought that would all change when he got his drivers license. Hmmmmmmmmm. Me thinks I will ask him about military service in September.

I know, my ex is one of the two bad apples!

423 pingjockey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:15:18pm
424 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:15:35pm

Ginn
America also has the greatest women. Even if 50% are moonbats.

425 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:15:44pm

To my Jewish friends:

This moving settlements and Shiite, and I know it is your "place", and who am I to ask what is going on?...

But are y'all sure Olmert is not an Arab?.. Does he have a Manassas bloodline or what?..

No offense, but damn, I wouldn't give them any more land..

If you will hold off a little while and let us finish with Iraq, We will do like we did the Indians, and pretty soon we will own everything surrounding Israel..

And then you can buy more land from Us.. ..... .

The world according to Keyboard.

426 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:16:27pm
427 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:17:16pm

re: #412 buzzsawmonkey

There are horrific and draconian death penalties in the Bible. That rarely if ever were put into practice even in ancient times.

428 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:18:01pm

#422 Ginn
Goes through the barrel tossing bad apples to the pigs.

429 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:18:03pm

re: #417 ploome hineni

I agree

430 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:19:53pm
431 Jehu  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:20:37pm

sattv4u2

Again, those are INDIVIDUAL faults, not endemic of the entire western humanist values


The problem I have with secularists, or humanists proclaiming moral equivalence to Christianity, is they seem to me to be a bunch of people luxuriating under the shelter of the tree built by a Judeo-Christian value system, and this took a very long time. They have no historical perspective and their unbelief makes them spiritually retarded. There are no humanists philosophers sitting around proclaiming their creative powers in dictatorships, or under any of the isms. Even if they played a part in founding such systems, they are the first ones to the gallows once the ruthless strongmen ascend to power.

432 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:20:38pm
433 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:20:58pm

re: #421 ploome hineni

re: #403 BabbaZee

Simply stated, to make a blanket statement that there are "western values" , and to count amongst those 'values " Oh .....theres a million of them!
Lying through your teeth,
putting yourself before all others,
making money your GOD
nasty to parents and elders
LALALLALALLALA infinty!

is misstating those "values" as inherently "Western". Throughout the course of History, those "values" have been part of the human condition, AS INDIVIDUALS, since man 1st walked this planet, be it WESTERN, EASTERN, or MARTIAN

434 Eowyn2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:21:39pm

OT - HAS ANYONE ELSE SEEN THIS

"SANTA MONICA, California (Reuters) - Relatives of murder victim Ron Goldman won a court order on Tuesday seizing any money O.J. Simpson earns for lending his name and likeness to a football video game with a fictional team called the Assassins and a knife-wielding mascot.

435 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:22:25pm

re: #432 ploome hineni

Today my part fled my skull from the sheer rancor LOL

I cant stand me right now

WINSTON LIGHTS!

436 Ginn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:23:27pm

Winston Lights evil!

*Merely an opinion, no need to sue

437 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:24:57pm

re: #426 ploome hineni

392 sattv4u2

who sacrifices more for the poor, the illiterate and the oppressed?

secular humanists or missionaries

who donates more money to these poor and oppressed?

take a guess


By and large countries with a strong Judeo/ Christian base sacrifices much more in aid, both monetary and personal, than countries that do not have a belief system. Recent history shows us that per capita, the USA offered more aid to stricken areas of the world than any other. How much did Russia, China, et al contribute to Tsunami relief?

438 Eowyn2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:25:12pm

re: #422 Ginn

You can add my ex for a third bad apple.

439 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:25:29pm

What media bias?

AP: Check you calendar

440 SonOfLiberty  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:25:52pm

Oscar Tango -

Iran hates rock music!

Replace "Muslim" with "Southern Baptist" or somesuch Christian religion and you'd have the ACLU foaming at the mouth and screaming at the top of their lungs. This would be plastered all over CNN as the crime of the century and there would be calls to ban Christianity throughout the free world.

Let's send the left over to Iran to promote gun control!

441 zombie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:26:16pm

TOTALLY OT:

Someone yesterday posted a link to this book review in a gay newspaper of a new title called "Gay Travels in the Muslim World." Both the book and the review try to downplay how bad it is for gays in Muslim countries, and mock American attitudes. I noticed that they allowed comments on articles, so I quickly typed one up and posted it -- only to discover that comments are "moderated" and that mine would get posted only if it was approved.

Well, needless to say, it didn't get approved. But I hate to let a good comment go to waste, and luckily I still had the comment window open, so for the hell of it I'm posting the comment here instead.

Keep in mind that this comment is for the newspaper's gay audience, and my goal was to push the gay readers into coming around to the LGF political point of view, without challenging or making any judgements about their identities.

Anyway, here we go!:

----------------

There are so many ludicrous political gymnastics in this review and apparently in the book it dicusses. Trying to twist twist twist the narrative to cast US culture in a bad light and excuse Middle Eastern culture. Let's just strip away all the crap and get to the heart of the matter:

The penalty for engaging in homosexual acts in most Muslim countries is death -- public execution. It is patently untrue that "no one gives a damn" if two men engage in gay sex under a desert moon. They only don't care if they don't know.

True, perhaps in a few North African countries the police will "look the other way" in notorious gay areas, but gays only exist at the hypocritical whim of the authorities. Gays can be prosecuted at any time if the powers that be so decide. The anti-gay laws remain in place, even in those areas where they may be mostly unenforced.

US culture, despite your juvenile bashing of it, is infinitely more liberal and progressive than that of any Muslim country.

For the good of gays and gay rights everywhere, Islamic culture needs to be dissolved by encroaching Westernization and American values as rapidly as possible. The only way to achieve worldwide gay freedom is to attack Islamic values relentlessly, as it is the last virulently anti-gay major culture left on the planet. As such, we should be supporting globalization and the so-called "War on Terror" as both are eroding away Muslim traditional societies and values.

Yes, whether or not you acknowledge it, America is a force that promotes liberal values and personal freedom around the world, even if this isn't the primary goal of economic globalization and military strength.

Look at the big picture. Where would you rather live: The United States -- or Mauritania or Iran or Yemen? You don't need to answer because you've already voted with your dick -- the United States, because it is here you are free to be who you are. So, the more we can make those backwards societies more like the US, the better for gays and everyone.

442 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:26:18pm

re: #437 sattv4u2

re: #426 ploome hineni


392 sattv4u2

who sacrifices more for the poor, the illiterate and the oppressed?

secular humanists or missionaries

who donates more money to these poor and oppressed?

take a guess


By and large countries with a strong Judeo/ Christian base sacrifices much more in aid, both monetary and personal, than countries that do not have a belief system. Recent history shows us that per capita, the USA offered more aid to stricken areas of the world than any other. How much did Russia, China, et al contribute to Tsunami relief?


Or Earth Quake relief in Afgahnastan,,, Aids money for Africa,,, ect ect

443 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:26:20pm

re: #433 sattv4u2

OH PLEASE
lighten up
and smarten up

ANY values that Secular Humanists claim that are so called "good" are drawn directly from JUDEO-CHRISTIAN CULTURE
re: THE WEST
That is (was) biblically based societies with Hellenistic influences

Look to Europe today for your secular humanist object lesson

they are almost 100 years post judeo-christian society, as secular socialists

and the Jihadis are going to EAT THEM

its a fucking vacuum

Ploome you take it I gotta go eat

BBL

444 ec marm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:26:26pm

BabbaZee
Nicotine does help with ability to concentrate. It has been studied by the shrink industry. But it only lasts for twenty minutes or so until you have to fire up another to bring the nicotine level back up again. So what you are feeling is real. But it will pass.

445 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:27:56pm

re: #436 Ginn

You're kinda cuta!

446 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:28:50pm

re: #443 BabbaZee

I suggest you not "lighten up", but LIGHT UP. I think you're starting to show sings of Nicotine Withdrawel.
Hang in there. it'll pass. I quit cold turkey and it takes about 2 weeks

447 insanity police  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:28:53pm

re: #416 pingjockey

re: #406 opinionated Hopefully ah'madinner jacket and not the Israelis. But with those looney tunes over there who knows. I don't understand our foreign policy half the time, slam our friends arm our enemies. Madness.

I like that one. My other favorites: Ahma-duchebag, Ahmadinejewhater, Ahismamasahoejad.

448 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:29:12pm

re: #439 JammieWearingFool

What media bias?

AP: Check you calendar

The thing we all need to be ready for is Al Qaeda's "Tet" in September, they are probably setting up stringers now to feed the agitrprop as Petraeus reports. Look for as much flash as they can make at that time, but we also have to be ready to vette every single casualty and claim, because the MSM is going to be highly willing to swallow mass amounts of agitprop swill at that time -- they'll make TNR look honest.

449 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:29:14pm

re: #427 BabbaZee

re: #412 buzzsawmonkey

There are horrific and draconian death penalties in the Bible. That rarely if ever were put into practice even in ancient times.

There is a New Testament Spiritual reason for those portions.

When the Old Testament calls for the death penalty for idolatry, its Spiritual meaning is to put idolatry to death in myself. Those things that would distract me from my relationship with God.

450 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:29:55pm

Babba quit smoking?

451 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:30:16pm

How do i find out why a post was deleted?

452 insanity police  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:30:16pm

re: #447 insanity police


My favorites might be a bit of a stretch. But anything that makes fun of that little troll I am in support of.

453 zombie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:30:31pm

re: #449 jcm

When the Old Testament calls for the death penalty for idolatry, its Spiritual meaning is to put idolatry to death in myself. Those things that would distract me from my relationship with God.

Can't we at least worship Victor Davis Hanson?

454 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:30:56pm
455 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:31:14pm
456 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:31:16pm

re: #442 sattv4u2

Saw a recent account of US charitable giving. If ranked on the national GDP scale US giving is 29th.

457 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:31:38pm

re: #453 zombie

re: #449 jcm


When the Old Testament calls for the death penalty for idolatry, its Spiritual meaning is to put idolatry to death in myself. Those things that would distract me from my relationship with God.

Can't we at least worship Victor Davis Hanson?

Was he one of the Hanson Brothers on "Slap Shot" with Paul Newman?

458 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:32:08pm

re: #452 insanity policeAh'm'a gonna jihad is another.

459 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:32:14pm
460 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:32:26pm

re: #453 zombie

re: #449 jcm

When the Old Testament calls for the death penalty for idolatry, its Spiritual meaning is to put idolatry to death in myself. Those things that would distract me from my relationship with God.

Can't we at least worship Victor Davis Hanson?

LOL

Heretic! to the stake with you.

461 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:32:35pm

re: #441 zombie

good find. i tried to drop a comment and watered it down as much as i could stomach

462 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:33:22pm
463 formercorpsman  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:33:25pm

re: #456 jcm

re: #442 sattv4u2

Saw a recent account of US charitable giving. If ranked on the national GDP scale US giving is 29th.

I'm just curious, do you recall where you might have seen this?

464 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:33:44pm

re: #457 sattv4u2

re: #453 zombie


re: #449 jcm

When the Old Testament calls for the death penalty for idolatry, its Spiritual meaning is to put idolatry to death in myself. Those things that would distract me from my relationship with God.

Can't we at least worship Victor Davis Hanson?

Was he one of the Hanson Brothers on "Slap Shot" with Paul Newman?

Warning: Language.... The Hanson Brothers

465 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:34:41pm
466 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:35:04pm

re: #456 jcm

re: #442 sattv4u2

Saw a recent account of US charitable giving. If ranked on the national GDP scale US giving is 29th.

On re-read not so clear.

US charitable giving in total dollars, just the giving, would be the 29th ranked GDP. Meaning our giving alone is more that the total production of 120 nations.

467 insanity police  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:35:07pm

re: #458 pingjockey

How about Ahmad-ilooklikeamonkey-nejad?

468 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:35:21pm

re: #454 ploome hineni


so "most" Westerners "Lying through your teeth,
putting yourself before all others,
making money your GOD
nasty to parents and elders"

Wow ,,, talk about being SIMPLISTIC !

469 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:36:21pm
470 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:36:42pm

re: #456 jcm

re: #442 sattv4u2

Saw a recent account of US charitable giving. If ranked on the national GDP scale US giving is 29th.


I saw that also. That ranking didn't include what is given thru religious organizations (which get their contributions from parishoners)

471 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:36:56pm

re: #455 buzzsawmonkey

I am too spastic and inarticulate right now to have a rational discussion. Seriously!
There are things I want to say to that,
but my level of articulation and thought is not correct at the moment
I will misstate my thoughts, I know it.
I am going to eat and lurk.

Ploome ~
Figures we smoked the same brand, LOL


EC :
Thanks, scientists have spoken! My dilemma is real!

:~}

472 insanity police  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:37:08pm

re: #467 insanity police

re: #458 pingjockey

How about Ahmad-ilooklikeamonkey-nejad?

Picture

473 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:37:26pm

re: #467 insanity police

re: #458 pingjockey

How about Ahmad-ilooklikeamonkey-nejad?

i'm-a-dinner-jacket is my favorite

474 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:37:35pm

re: #464 Thanos

Love that movie, my neighbor was one of the extras on ice.

475 insanity police  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:38:35pm

re: #473 bosforus

I agree. I like that one a lot.

476 Glackinspeil  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:38:58pm

OT
As if this thread could go any further OT.

Anyone remember about a week or so ago...there was a report on Fox about a u-haul full of explosives parked near the courthouse where the mooslims are on trial. Story seems to have disapeared and never come back. Any body know what happened?

I think it was the day before all thos gas cylinders exploded. Not terrorism related, though.

477 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:39:05pm

re: #469 ploome hineni

"/spit"

Classy ! Thanks. As long as we're keeping the discourse civil!

/ sarc

478 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:39:06pm
479 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:39:42pm

Super-Mondo Heat Wave to Cripple US


Just watched the Joe Bastardi video, and while three runs of the GFS in a row have destroyed Miami with a monster hurricane in 2 weeks (details subject to change) the big story is the Top 5 all time heat wave to punish the interior Southern US back into the lower Ohio Valley and much of the Missouri and Mississippi Valley. East of the Rockies, only the Great Lakes and Canadian border regions will see relief with occasional cool fronts and rain!

99° F (37° C) in Nashville!

Ditto St. Louis!

And, finally, the rain has stopped in most of Texas. So Dallas can dry out that soil moisture, and brown up the green vegetation, that has kept them from The Century Mark. Probably not today, maybe not tomorrow, but almost certainly Thursday and Friday. That is what I'm saying, 38°, and while it dries out some, enough humidity will be present to make it darned uncomfortable.

This should also help the Texas side of the Gulf, with 28 to 29° water, catch up to Florida, where the water is 30 to 32°! Of course, if a big hurricane is heading for Miami, and South Florida is surrounded by water over 90° F, it would probably be Labor Day 1935 city.

Still thinking about that TV show, with a Cat 3 or Cat 4 (I think Cat 4 is unlikely) hurricane hitting NYC. With SSTs now at the magic 26.5° all the way to Atlantic City, and the buoy off Islip now at 24°, a monster hurricane, assuming upper level conditions were favorable, would only weaken slowly as it approached.

But a Miami or NYC hurricane, still hypothetical, whereas widespread 100° F temps that may last for 2 weeks, that looks to be for real.

480 highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:40:00pm

re: #451 pingjockey

How do i find out why a post was deleted?

Hi Pingjockey,

You can email Charles and he may be able to tell you. I personally didn't see what you wrote..but in the past I have seen people being deleted for the following:

*talk about rounding up muslims in internment camps or rounding up muslims and deporting them all
*genocide of all muslims
*advocating murder of muslims

I'm sure there are other typres of comments but if it even sounded as such in any of the above, it's deleted.

481 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:40:06pm
482 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:40:13pm

re: #471 BabbaZee
Off to jail with you....

Jail Me So I Can Quit Smoking, Says Iowa Woman


"I called last week and I said, 'Hi, I am interested in being admitted to Polk County jail and I'm willing to pay any fees that it would cost you to keep me there for a few days.' The lady [who answered the phone] was really surprised, but she said they couldn't help me."
483 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:40:23pm

re: #463 formercorpsman

re: #456 jcm

re: #442 sattv4u2

Saw a recent account of US charitable giving. If ranked on the national GDP scale US giving is 29th.

I'm just curious, do you recall where you might have seen this?

Us total charitable giving in '06 295.02 billion.

National GDP.
27 Greece 307 billion
28 Denmark 276 billion

We give more than Denmark produces and slightly less than Greece.

484 SusanL  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:40:51pm

re: #155 MandyManners

re: #136 jcm

The fall from the slidey-thing on the monkey bars was rough on The Kid. It busted his lip all to hell--facial wounds bleed profusely.

When my daughter was 8 or 9 (she's 26 with her own kids now), she was playing at the community center after school. It had been raining so the concrete was a bit slippery, she fell and went face first into a concrete post. She didn't break anything, but the poor child looked like someone had whacked her repeatedly with a 2x4.

They do somehow survive. By everything I have read here, you are a terrific Mom and "The Kid" should be just fine.

Susan

485 cheese_burger  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:41:19pm

"The Ummah" can actually be twisted into an excellent weapon, to be used against Islam.

Seeing as how Muslims view themselves as a 'collective', then is it not just for Infidels to then treat them as a collective?

If a Muslim in India, then, beheads a Christian girl, justice is served by murdering any Muslim, anywhere on earth, in retribution.

Muslims cannot have it both ways... Ummah when it suits them, and 'individual' when that suits them.

As the Ummah does unto The Others, so shall it be done to The Ummah.

486 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:41:42pm

re: #472 insanity police
I don't care who you are, that there's funny!

487 insanity police  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:42:30pm

re: #484 SusanL

Likely story.

/kidding.

488 highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:42:59pm

re: #472 insanity police

haha too funny....now you shall be stoned. How big? Your choice.

/snicker

489 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:43:04pm

re: #485 cheese_burger Collective=Borg

490 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:43:28pm
491 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:43:35pm
492 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:44:11pm
493 insanity police  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:44:19pm

re: #486 pingjockey

re: #472 insanity police
I don't care who you are, that there's funny!

Then you're gonna love this.

I found it here.

494 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:44:31pm

re: #479 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Super-Mondo Heat Wave to Cripple US


Just watched the Joe Bastardi video, and while three runs of the GFS in a row have destroyed Miami with a monster hurricane in 2 weeks (details subject to change) the big story is the Top 5 all time heat wave to punish the interior Southern US back into the lower Ohio Valley and much of the Missouri and Mississippi Valley. East of the Rockies, only the Great Lakes and Canadian border regions will see relief with occasional cool fronts and rain!

99° F (37° C) in Nashville!

Ditto St. Louis!

And, finally, the rain has stopped in most of Texas. So Dallas can dry out that soil moisture, and brown up the green vegetation, that has kept them from The Century Mark. Probably not today, maybe not tomorrow, but almost certainly Thursday and Friday. That is what I'm saying, 38°, and while it dries out some, enough humidity will be present to make it darned uncomfortable.

This should also help the Texas side of the Gulf, with 28 to 29° water, catch up to Florida, where the water is 30 to 32°! Of course, if a big hurricane is heading for Miami, and South Florida is surrounded by water over 90° F, it would probably be Labor Day 1935 city.

Still thinking about that TV show, with a Cat 3 or Cat 4 (I think Cat 4 is unlikely) hurricane hitting NYC. With SSTs now at the magic 26.5° all the way to Atlantic City, and the buoy off Islip now at 24°, a monster hurricane, assuming upper level conditions were favorable, would only weaken slowly as it approached.

But a Miami or NYC hurricane, still hypothetical, whereas widespread 100° F temps that may last for 2 weeks, that looks to be for real.

Golly, I could have used four or five different colors and styles i only it were permitted.


I think a Tequila Sunrise effect for the "hot parts" of the thread.

495 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:45:00pm
496 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:45:51pm

re: #484 SusanL

re: #155 MandyManners

re: #136 jcm

The fall from the slidey-thing on the monkey bars was rough on The Kid. It busted his lip all to hell--facial wounds bleed profusely.

When my daughter was 8 or 9 (she's 26 with her own kids now), she was playing at the community center after school. It had been raining so the concrete was a bit slippery, she fell and went face first into a concrete post. She didn't break anything, but the poor child looked like someone had whacked her repeatedly with a 2x4.

They do somehow survive. By everything I have read here, you are a terrific Mom and "The Kid" should be just fine.

Susan

Our 3 year old recently was running (he never, ever walks) missed the turn from dining room to living room and took the end table just above his eye. ¼" cut and a black eye the next morning. The day his case worker came for a visit.

497 Render  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:47:06pm

re: #469 ploome hineni

Ahem.

MORE,
R

498 Timbre  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:47:40pm

I hope everyone caught the quick shot of the Qur'an, near the beginning, open to Surah 2:216--"Jihad (Holy fighting in Allah's Cause)... One can tell from the ornate type and detail that this "Meaning of the Qur'an" was most likely published by a thoroughly Islamic firm, probably in KSA or Pakistan, maybe northern India. Jihad is properly defined here as "holy fighting," not as "inner struggle."

499 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:47:51pm
500 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:48:04pm

re: #493 insanity police These here innertubes are just fantastic. The problem is i don't think islamists have any sense of humor. There is a line, from Shakespeare i think that says a man with no humor is fit for dark plots, stratagems and other evils. That's paraphrased of course.

501 formercorpsman  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:48:23pm

re: #483 jcm

Thanks.

Staggering numbers when you think about them.

I think if you factor in other things like our military, and the un, the numbers would be even more impressive.

502 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:48:53pm

Ed's sock puppet,
How do you do the degree sign? 100°

503 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:48:54pm

re: #484 SusanL


Your fortumnate that didn't happen today. You would get a visit from Protective Services after comeone at the community center called and said you child was unsupervised!

504 highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:49:18pm

re: #496 jcm

Our 3 year old recently was running (he never, ever walks) missed the turn from dining room to living room and took the end table just above his eye. ¼" cut and a black eye the next morning. The day his case worker came for a visit.

My daughter fell and got a bruise on her eye when she was learning to walk. I didn't even leave the house until it was gone....of course I lived at that time in a very liberal city so that had a lot to do with my response. The people around me thought life was perfect and that their children's diapers never stunk /cackle..typical lefty stuff.

505 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:49:27pm
506 insanity police  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:49:43pm

re: #500 pingjockey

At least we can enjoy them.

I'm done for the day. Have a pleasant night everyone.

507 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:49:48pm

buzzsamonkey-

We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).

surah 15:9

Built in reform-proofing.

508 SusanL  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:50:04pm

re: #438 Eowyn2

re: #422 Ginn

You can add my ex for a third bad apple.

OK, unless someone beat me too it, mine can be the 4th.

Never was physically abusive (I know that I am very lucky), but if there was a way to put you down, or make you think you are stupid, well he was the master.

Heck, I divorced the man just so I could get in the last word.

Susan

509 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:50:15pm

re: #503 sattv4u2

re: #484 SusanL


Your fortumnate that didn't happen today. You would get a visit from Protective Services after comeone at the community center called and said you child was unsupervised!


DAMN THUMBS... is there ANYTHING in the above that I typed correctly !?!?!?!?!?!?!?

510 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:50:23pm
511 Resistance Girl  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:50:33pm

Ummah or CPS stories...which is worse?

512 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:51:20pm

re: #482 Killgore Trout
LOL!

513 Occasional Reader  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:51:29pm
THE HADITHS SHOULD BE DESTROYED ACCORDING TO THE HADITHS THEMSELVES

That was just Mo's way of trying to get the robots from I, Mudd to melt down.

514 Render  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:52:58pm

re: #505 ploome hineni

No, Q is not "a shit."

No, I do not know who.

CLARIFY,
R

515 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:53:01pm
516 SusanL  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:53:09pm

re: #487 insanity police

It wasn't funny, I got more dirty looks that I could count until her face healed. She told a waiter who wouldn't quit staring (never the shy one my girl) very abruptly that she fell and her Mommy wasn't even there and to stop looking at her like that!

Susan

517 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:54:45pm

re: #511 Resistance Girl

Ummah or CPS stories...which is worse?

Ummm... let me think.....

518 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:54:59pm

OT ,, but\

China hopes to cure Internet addicts at summer camp
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Looks around ,, umm,, anyone in HERE going !?!?!?!

519 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:55:01pm

re: #490 buzzsawmonkey

I know you welcome it ,
BUT
because I love you
and because I further know that I am not capable of being rational or useful in any capacity today other than as a hammer,
I am declining the discussion for right now.

We should have it though
once I recover ...
which I hope will be very shortly.

520 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:55:59pm

re: #518 sattv4u2

OT ,, but

China hopes to cure Internet addicts at summer camp
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Looks around ,, umm,, anyone in HERE going !?!?!?!

New factory for lead painting toys for export.

521 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:56:19pm
522 Render  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:56:37pm

re: #515 ploome hineni

So we're back to that eh?

Fuck you and the horse that rode you in here.

BITCH,
R

523 formercorpsman  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:56:44pm

I work in orthopaedics, and can tell you most parents are truly scared because of the knee jerk reaction of thinking the government is going to investigate you.

To be honest, there are certainthings that tip us off that most people would not realize, but knowing how my brothers and I grew up, my parents would have been in jail, all the while it was the injuries of our own doing.

Evil

Kneivel.

524 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:56:51pm

re: #518 sattv4u2

i can quit whenever i want to...i just don't want to

525 highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:57:21pm

re: #516 SusanL

re: #487 insanity police

It wasn't funny, I got more dirty looks that I could count until her face healed. She told a waiter who wouldn't quit staring (never the shy one my girl) very abruptly that she fell and her Mommy wasn't even there and to stop looking at her like that!

Susan

haha that child is a character.

My dog has a skin allergy condition..it is really bad but not as bad as I've seen other dogs with this condition. My mom came to visit and she would look at that dog and say..wow, if I didn't know you better, I'd think you were an animal abuser. When I lived in that disgusting city I mentioned in my last post, I wouldn't even take that dog out to walk her for fear of being harassed by the libs.

I have since moved to a more conservative suburb of california...it is so much more *real* and less judgemental here.

526 SusanL  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:57:46pm

re: #509 sattv4u2

No, I am lucky that it was a supervised after school program. I live in a lib state as well. Very very very scary people.

Susan

527 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:57:49pm
528 Resistance Girl  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:58:06pm

Horrid stories from friends and one close encounter with CPS myself.

Many years ago and it still fills me with so many emotions, it's difficult to speak of.

I know all the whining points CPS has...too few case workers, not enough pay, too many cases.

Why is it that I know of so many that have been contacted with little to no reason?

529 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:58:22pm

re: #512 BabbaZee

I'll add that to my netflix list.

530 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:58:48pm

re: #522 Render

re: #515 ploome hineni

So we're back to that eh?

Fuck you and the horse that rode you in here.

BITCH,
R


Not good blog etiquette...

531 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:59:15pm

re: #526 SusanL


My condolences (on where you live). But I feel for you. I lived in Massachusetts for 45 years

532 formercorpsman  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:59:35pm

re: #522 Render

You don't have a wire hanger in our hand do you?

533 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 2:59:47pm
534 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:00:08pm

re: #523 formercorpsman

I work in orthopaedics, and can tell you most parents are truly scared because of the knee jerk reaction of thinking the government is going to investigate you.

To be honest, there are certainthings that tip us off that most people would not realize, but knowing how my brothers and I grew up, my parents would have been in jail, all the while it was the injuries of our own doing.

Evil

Kneivel.

My niece was one of those, total fearless, she had so many bruises at times I wondered about my sister, until I watched her attempt to go from the 2nd flr, to 1st floor... by jumping she was like 5 at the time.

535 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:00:34pm

re: #524 bosforus

re: #518 sattv4u2

i can quit whenever i want to...i just don't want to

I said the same thing about ,,, ummm,,, well,, lets just say Thank God I don't have hairy palms !

536 Occasional Reader  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:00:54pm

We seem to be at the restive southern portion of this thread.

Everyone... join in.

537 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:01:04pm
538 Timbre  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:01:30pm

re: #522 Render

re: #515 ploome hineni

So we're back to that eh?

F... you and the horse that rode you in here.

BIT..,
R

Charles: Please delete.

539 TheRealist  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:02:08pm

I've only watched the first segment and will deal with the others later. Islam is a cult. And an evil one at that. Reasoned with? There is no reasoning with this cult.
The Catholic religion modernized itself through time (I am one. Remember eating meat on Fridays)? This cult is just out of control and won't hear that we are now living in the 21st century.

Same 'ol same 'ol to most lizards but this is only my second post. It'll take some getting used to.

The 7th century? How far do you have to dig to find it now? Islam really needs to grow up if that's possible. I doubt it.

540 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:02:25pm

re: #535 sattv4u2

never thought i'd reduce to 5th grade abbreviations but...TMI

541 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:02:26pm
542 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:02:40pm
543 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:03:39pm
544 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:03:52pm

Study on British inter-racial dating attitudes. Guess who are the racists? Yep, those "Asiatics".
[Link: www.thepeninsulaqatar.com...]

545 SusanL  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:04:53pm

re: #531 sattv4u2

Portland, Oregon. Our lead conservative talk show host Lars Larson calls it "Moscow on the Willamette", it is so bad here.

One of the first offical acts our mayor Tom Potter did: he rode with a bike group called "Critical Mass". Occationally they have "rides", the entire purpose of these "rides" is to block downtown traffic and cause the freeways to jam up worse than usual.

I don't envy you your pair of senators, at least we have one good one and one that isn't trying to get us killed. One R, one D, take your pick. Depending on the day either description fits either one.

Susan

546 Ma Sands  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:05:28pm

re: #527 buzzsawmonkey

re: #507 Sharmuta

You can find the same thing in Deuteronomy, where Moses says that the Torah should not be added to nor subtracted from.

And here, too. :)

547 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:05:37pm

re: #529 Killgore Trout

:~}
Ahhaaa

548 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:06:18pm
549 Occasional Reader  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:06:50pm
THE HADITHS SHOULD BE DESTROYED ACCORDING TO THE HADITHS THEMSELVES

STEAL THIS HADITH!

550 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:07:41pm

koom bah humbug

551 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:07:44pm
552 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:08:09pm

re: #546 Ma Sands

re: #527 buzzsawmonkey

re: #507 Sharmuta

You can find the same thing in Deuteronomy, where Moses says that the Torah should not be added to nor subtracted from.

And here, too. :)

Except for the Gender Neutral versions.
/sarc

553 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:08:37pm

Phelps tribe to picket funerals of MN bridge collapse victims.

The Phelpers are a lawyer power-cult rather than a church. The media hate them not for their despicable tactics (compare Ted Rall and Ward Churchill), but for inverting the usual rationale for elitist hate-spew by pretending to be anti-gay fundamentalists rather than caring, compassionate liberals.

554 Render  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:08:46pm

re: #469 ploome hineni

re: #442 sattv4u2

are you Quella? with a new name?

/spit

re: #505 ploome hineni

re: #497 Render


re: #469 ploome hineni

Ahem.

MORE,
R


she is a shit, and so is you know who

I have no quarrel with you or your poor taste in pathetic females

please...render

don't tease me

====

No. I did not start this. You did. I got yer "boy"...

===

Ed, my blog ettiquete was just fine when I spoke up in your defense.

Now its a problem?

YOU
TOO?,
R

555 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:09:24pm

Beauchump story on Britt Hume. Big story too. Doesn't look good for TNR.

556 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:09:33pm

Yeah.. their "religious identity" is s tronger than any allegiance to a government or culture. This is all the more reason these Mohammedians or those in the religion of peas need to be contained or sent back to wherever they came from.

557 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:10:43pm

re: #555 pat

only lies look good for TNR, that's why they publish them and that's why they're knee deep in their own poopie

558 Eowyn2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:11:04pm

re: #508 SusanL

re: #438 Eowyn2


re: #422 Ginn

You can add my ex for a third bad apple.


OK, unless someone beat me too it, mine can be the 4th.

Never was physically abusive (I know that I am very lucky), but if there was a way to put you down, or make you think you are stupid, well he was the master.

Heck, I divorced the man just so I could get in the last word.

Susan

Mayhap we were married to the same man?

559 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:11:07pm
560 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:12:19pm

re: #558 Eowyn2

re: #508 SusanL

re: #438 Eowyn2


re: #422 GinnYou can add my ex for a third bad apple.


OK, unless someone beat me too it, mine can be the 4th. Never was physically abusive (I know that I am very lucky), but if there was a way to put you down, or make you think you are stupid, well he was the master.

Heck, I divorced the man just so I could get in the last word.

Now if Mandy were here........lol

Susan

Mayhap we were married to the same man?

561 Jehu  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:12:26pm

buzzsaw 490

I am merely pointing out that Islam is running well over a thousand years behind both Christianity and Judaism in development, and that even Judaism, the oldest of the three, incorporated innovations in interpretation and practice over 1500 years after it originally came into being.

Why not stop pretending that there is any equivalence of Islam to Judaism or Christianity? You view seems to be that these are all equally weighted human constructs of values and world views, subject to evolutionary growth and change. My view and that of many others is Judaism and its younger brother Christianity are a continuum of revelation or knowledge from God of the ever increasing requirements from Him to his children to grow up spiritually, and thus intellectually and emotionally, all slathered with a layer of salvation and deliverance because we are a fallen creation, pretty well testified to by human history in all its "inhumanity, violence and plain old evil."

Whereas Islam is a counterfeit revelation, seemingly like Christianity or Judaism, but you have to look no farther than the founders of Judaism and Christianity and Islam to discern the true character of the messengers, and thus the message.

There is no reform or growth possible in Islam...it is what it is, and was always so.

562 Occasional Reader  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:12:31pm

re: #550 BabbaZee

koom bah humbug

Sounds like someone needs a little musical spiritual cleansing.

Just sit back and let this wash over you... like warm bath water... after you've opened your wrists...

(And while I'm prowling around YouTube, BZ, this looks like a movie you or I could have made)

563 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:12:46pm

re: #468 sattv4u2

BTW
just for clarifications sake
I just noticed this:

I said all of that which you quoted there in that post

not ploome

I was being silly and bombastic, not literal.
But the gist behind it was serious

564 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:13:36pm

Tear-off that Nuclear Burqa!(not) Russia Pressures Iran On Nukes

Moscow has warned Tehran it will not deliver fuel to a nearly completed Russian-built nuclear reactor unless Tehran lifts the veil of secrecy on suspicious past atomic activities....

Of course the statement is attributed to some un-named Eurabian dip___.

This looks very similar to one of those very common Weasel(no offense to Weasels) stall scams: Europe warns US on Iran sanctions

European governments are warning Congress that US legislation aimed at Iran could hit European energy groups, undermine transatlantic unity on Tehran’s nuclear programme and provoke a dispute at the World Trade Organisation.

Diplomats from France, Germany and the UK, among other countries, have stepped up a lobbying campaign on Capitol Hill against moves that would mandate sanctions on energy companies that invested more than $20m (€14.6m, £9.9m) in Iran.

Gawd...I just love those Euros. However, as VDH notes our Eurabian pals don't rate us to high in their Popularity Contest:

Even more perplexing are the attitudes voiced by some key European countries — France (60 percent unfavorable to the U.S.), Germany (66-percent unfavorable), and Spain (60 percent). Millions of Europeans in these countries express a much more negative view of the United States than do Hugo Chavez’s Venezuelans. So much for the supposedly sweeping changes in France and Germany that brought the Sarkozy and Merkel governments to power.

I won't mention Gordie for the moment...

565 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:14:04pm

re: #545 SusanL


Ahh , Portland. Beautiful city!. Yes, I was under the yolk ( or joke) of Teddy Kennedy for years ( not to mention Mike Dukakis, who left us the legacy of George Stephanopoulos, who begate Bill Clinton).

I now reside in Georgia, a Yank among the rednecks, but at least the political climate is more to my liking

566 Eowyn2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:14:08pm

re: #553 Shiplord Kirel

Phelps tribe to picket funerals of MN bridge collapse victims.

The Phelpers are a lawyer power-cult rather than a church. The media hate them not for their despicable tactics (compare Ted Rall and Ward Churchill), but for inverting the usual rationale for elitist hate-spew by pretending to be anti-gay fundamentalists rather than caring, compassionate liberals.

Why? What is wrong with these people's minds? Inbreeding gone awry?

567 SusanL  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:14:31pm

BabbZee,

Based you your comments today, it seems that you are trying to quit smoking.

I did it! I quit almost 5 years ago. Cold turkey. I got tired of coughing. That coupled with the fact that my Daddy had just died from lung cancer a few months before and my Mama died from emphysema a few years earlier what choice did I have? They both smoked like chimney's. I saw how they both suffered, didn't want to go there myself.

It is not easy. One thing that helped me was drinking water. When I really was jonesing for a smoke, I drank a glass of water. By the time I got done with the glass of water, the craving was gone.

Hang in there and good luck!

Susan

568 highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:15:07pm

re: #553 Shiplord Kirel

Phelps tribe to picket funerals of MN bridge collapse victims.

The Phelpers are a lawyer power-cult rather than a church. The media hate them not for their despicable tactics (compare Ted Rall and Ward Churchill), but for inverting the usual rationale for elitist hate-spew by pretending to be anti-gay fundamentalists rather than caring, compassionate liberals.

Oh lord have mercy on those poor victims of that bridge..that cult is horrible...and they will pay I have to believe that.

People can read more about that cult here from one of the son's that was able to escape:

[Link: blank.org...]


I couldn't stop reading the abuse that horrible evil person has inflicted on many in his own family...and I'm not easy to tears. God has to have a special place for him in hell.

And thank you for addressing it as a cult, Shiplord...and not baptist like they claim they are..which they are not.

569 jcm  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:15:10pm

re: #553 Shiplord Kirel

Phelps tribe to picket funerals of MN bridge collapse victims.

The Phelpers are a lawyer power-cult rather than a church. The media hate them not for their despicable tactics (compare Ted Rall and Ward Churchill), but for inverting the usual rationale for elitist hate-spew by pretending to be anti-gay fundamentalists rather than caring, compassionate liberals.

Gee thanks Shiplord, that's all I needed to seriously piss me off. This little [censored] piss me off more than liberals, surrendercrats and islamists combined.

I have verse for you Phelps.
Matt. 7:23
and then will I avow unto them, I never knew you. Depart from me, workers of lawlessness.

570 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:15:38pm

re: #562 Occasional Reader

AGGGHHH not Imagine.
I'm MELTING!
I'm MELTING!

The second one, rotf
but that music, GAH!

571 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:16:07pm
572 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:16:17pm

Babba, you trying to quit smoking? 6 weeks of hell, then over. I quit years ago.

573 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:16:38pm

re: #567 SusanL

Thanks.
This is cold turkey day three (I think) and for some reason today is worse than the last two days.

574 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:16:53pm

re: #563 BabbaZee

I know that you "said" it. I included ploom as he took up for you in your abscence. And the gist behind my responses was also serious

575 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:16:59pm
576 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:17:29pm

re: #572 pat

Six frikkin weeks?
WTF!

I got chopped in HALF and I went back to work (part time at first though) in 5 weeks

577 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:18:36pm

Babba, it takes at least 10 days before the physical addiction is over.

578 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:18:45pm

re: #573 BabbaZee

Hang in there. It takes a good two weeks. (I quit cold 20 years ago. Best thing I ever did, not for the health reasons, but the $$$$$$$$$$ I've saved !)

579 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:19:24pm

re: #574 sattv4u2

Okeedokee there
I am not interested in having a fight with you
I said what I wanted to say to you in 443.

just clarifying for people reading
you should not quote something under a posters name that they did not say

580 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:20:30pm

re: #578 sattv4u2

Thanks
I have quit in the past
but it was a LOONNG time ago and I dont remember it feeling like this at all

581 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:20:32pm

The 12Z GFS actually looks more like Palm Beach with the super-mondo hurricane in two weeks...

582 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:20:48pm

Babba, I have nothing against smokers (except kin, my mother died of COPD), but quitting made me feel way better.

583 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:21:11pm

re: #577 pat

BAH
where are my superpowers when I need them dammit

584 Terp Mole  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:21:48pm

Wisconsin's Ward Churchill - Only Worse Update:

University denies Barrett position

Former University of Wisconsin lecturer Kevin Barrett was denied a fall teaching position he had applied for in the English department, university officials confirmed in July.

Barrett, who brought a great deal of scrutiny to UW last year for his outspoken defense of a Sept. 11 conspiracy theory, wanted to teach a 300-level English course on Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales but was not hired because the other candidates were more qualified, according to UW spokesperson Brian Mattmiller.

UW Badger Herald invites your taunts here.

/neh-neh-nah-nuh... neh-neh-NAH-nuh... hey-AY-ey!... Goodbye-aye!

585 bulwrk  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:22:48pm

re: #571 ploome hineni

The explosion of Islam in the 7th and 8th centuries

Funny how explosion best describes the birth of islam.

586 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:23:01pm

re: #542 ploome hineni

re: #530 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


re: #522 Render

re: #515 ploome hineni
So we're back to that eh?

Fuck you and the horse that rode you in here.

BITCH,
R


Not good blog etiquette...

I have been trying to ignore...be nice to you

just scroll by me..so many needy women you can help

/boy


You realize I was addressing Render, and his potty mouth in caps, and not you, no?

587 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:23:06pm

re: #582 pat

Given my situation I truly don't know how much better it will make me feel, but OK.
I thinks that's just a perk for you otherwise healthy people LOL

588 Kirly  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:24:03pm

re: #505 ploome hineni

re: #497 Render


re: #469 ploome hineni

Ahem.

MORE,
R


she is a shit, and so is you know who

I have no quarrel with you or your poor taste in pathetic females

please...render

don't tease me


re: #510 ploome hineni

poor rnder, a really fine compassionate fellow..

finding every wackjob female on line

My dear fellow lizards. I regret that Ploome's anger at me and at Render has invaded the blog this fine day. You see, Render and I regularly defended Quella when Ploome would attack her in the lounge. Quella is a fine young woman and also, being Ivy league educated with an advanced degree, is quite intelligent. For defending our friend Quella, we have incurred the wrath of Ploome.

Everyone knows that I, Kirly, am the "you know who" of which Ploome speaks. Render clearly identified me here and here.

Ploome. Please take your private spat out of Charles' space. I have posted my email address. If you have an issue with me, please simply email it to me and don't burden or bore these fine lizards with it.

Again, lizards and Charles, I regret any inconvenience this situation may cause for you.

And, for the record, Render is the finest man I've ever met.

Kirly

email address: my nic at cox dot net

589 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:24:33pm

Oh
BTW sattv4u2 ~
Ploome is a she
not a he
FYI

Be Back in a bit

590 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:24:56pm

A button for Babba
[Link: deniskitchen.com...]

591 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:25:19pm

re: #391 Occasional Reader

On his email was an activist email that called for all whites to be hung.
What if I already am?

LOL. Liar! But that was damn funny!

592 formercorpsman  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:26:20pm

re: #588 Kirly

I hate when a good Menage à Trois goes south.

593 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:26:22pm

re: #554 Render

re: #469 ploome hineni


re: #442 sattv4u2

are you Quella? with a new name?

/spit


re: #505 ploome hineni

re: #497 Render

re: #469 ploome hineni
Ahem.

MORE,
R


she is a shit, and so is you know who
I have no quarrel with you or your poor taste in pathetic females

please...render

don't tease me


====

No. I did not start this. You did. I got yer "boy"...

===

Ed, my blog ettiquete was just fine when I spoke up in your defense.

Now its a problem?

YOU
TOO?,
R


I believe "BITCH" is never proper blog etiquette. And abbreviating the F word, as in "FOAD", seems kinder and gentler than spelling it out.


Ms. Ploome can be a little prickly at times, but is a vast source of information. She is, IMHO, an important contributor to LGF.

Perhaps you two just got off on the wrong foot.

594 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:27:16pm

OHHHHHhhhhh

No wonder I had no clue WTF....
it's a lounge thing.

Don't kill each other please.

Be back later!

595 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:28:25pm
596 legalpad  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:29:28pm

re: #561 Jehu

Why not stop pretending that there is any equivalence of Islam to Judaism or Christianity?

Because the Marxists want religion gone, and they want to use the Muslims to aggravate this. They are just crazy enough to think they can accomplish this.

597 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:29:46pm

While I still thing all caps "B" word is poor blog etiquette, I have not read the blog from the top, and have no clue who is mad at whom about what.


So just pretend I didn't say anything.

598 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:30:05pm

re: #479 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Wait until these golf pros get a feel for 101F heat and 50% humidity for four days here in Tulsa this week at the PGA. I actually think Phil Mickelson could stroke out - and not at the hole.

599 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:31:07pm

re: #597 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

While I still thing all caps "B" word is poor blog etiquette, I have not read the blog from the top, and have no clue who is mad at whom about what.


So just pretend I didn't say anything.


Can't we all just get along


/Ed "Rodney King" Mahmoud

600 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:31:45pm

It is yet another deflection of what islam really is about when people try to say there is some type of equivalence between islam and other religions.

I call it what it is..pc or not..don't care if it puts people off..death cult! One way or another we are going to see blood spilt over this definition...mark my words..this isn't going to be pretty :( and the pc people will be the ones in mental shock that what they thought they knew...isn't reality.

601 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:32:00pm

re: #599 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

would we be here if we could? on a global level, that is. i'm so deep.

602 Miss Trixie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:32:04pm

re: #389 NoSubmission

Heading out now. See you on the other side.
:)

PASS THE WINDEX AND PAPER TOWELS, PLEASE!

/dogdangit! Red wine is hard to clean off a monitor!

603 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:32:29pm

re: #598 goodbye_natalie

re: #479 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Wait until these golf pros get a feel for 101F heat and 50% humidity for four days here in Tulsa this week at the PGA. I actually think Phil Mickelson could stroke out - and not at the hole.


Yes, proper use of relative humidity with temperature.


I've been drunk in Tulsa. Back when I briefly worked for an evil French company.

Much more scenic than the Oklahoma one sees on I-35 between Texas and Kansas.

604 Buckeye Abroad  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:33:45pm

Ploome

re: #515 ploome hineni
So we're back to that eh?
Fuck you and the horse that rode you in here.

BITCH,
R

I see you still have the moxie. ;>)

605 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:34:37pm

OKAY. I"m home and you won't believe what I saw in my neighborhood tonight. I took a pic for you guys. What does this mean?

606 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:35:09pm

re: #603 Ed Mahmoud's Sock PuppetYou sir have done a lot of traveling. Never been to Oklahoma, did go to Chanute, Kansas last Jan.
Did get drunk there.

607 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:35:30pm
608 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:35:41pm

re: #605 NoSubmission


ummm,,,, that you should MOVE to a new neighborhood !?!?! !?!?!?!

609 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:36:40pm

re: #605 NoSubmissionIs it nuke israel? that is a very weird "thing"

610 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:36:46pm

re: #598 goodbye_natalie

re: #479 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Wait until these golf pros get a feel for 101F heat and 50% humidity for four days here in Tulsa this week at the PGA. I actually think Phil Mickelson could stroke out - and not at the hole.

I've been to Tulsa. I spent a WEEK there, ONE NIGHT !

611 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:36:48pm

I have a question about the following:

Whatever happened to (1) Amalie/Bubble Girl and (2) Quella? I haven't seen them around in ages.

612 legalpad  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:37:13pm

re: #605 NoSubmission

Maybe it means they think nuking the Japs was a "holocaust."

613 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:37:14pm

Kirly ~


Quella is a fine young woman and also, being Ivy league educated with an advanced degree, is quite intelligent.

Natfanuttin but, an advanced degree and an "ivy league education" mean absolutely zero except as far as how much you can eventually earn, and this makes absolutely no one one better, finer, or more intelligent than anyone else here.

All it really means is your parents did right by you and you had opportunities in life that many never get.

Just sayin'. It's not a reason to like or respect anyone over anyone else, ever.
Or to automatically say they are Intelligent.
Some of the biggest fools in the world are over educated fools.

Not that I even know this person or care about this personal fight, just that this statement itself bothered me.

You can say the same thing about
Ward Churchill or Noam Chomsky too.
No reason to like them or respect them.

614 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:37:17pm

re: #605 NoSubmission

Uhh....

I think I'd add an extra dead bolt to your door. Make that 3 extra.

615 Miss Trixie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:37:40pm

Ack! Sorry NoSub - wrong quote. WTH?re: #391 Occasional Reader

I was trying to reply to O_R's #391 and something goofy happened.

Tme for dinner anyway. :D

616 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:37:45pm

re: #603 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I've been happy in Stillwater. Actually my daughter goes to school there.

617 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:37:46pm

re: #559 Killgore Trout

that was good

618 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:37:59pm

re: #608 sattv4u2

re: #605 NoSubmission


ummm,,,, that you should MOVE to a new neighborhood !?!?! !?!?!?!


YES. You got that right!

619 SusanL  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:38:23pm

re: #576 BabbaZee

re: #572 pat

Six frikkin weeks?
WTF!

I got chopped in HALF and I went back to work (part time at first though) in 5 weeks

Did you have a kidney removed as well?

Susan

620 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:38:37pm

re: #605 NoSubmission

It means
"Peace through supreior fire power!"

Power to the Correct People!

621 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:38:50pm

re: #605 NoSubmission

WTF!

622 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:38:55pm

re: #609 pingjockey

re: #605 NoSubmissionIs it nuke israel? that is a very weird "thing"


It was weird. And you have to realize this is smack in the middle of a very very busy super trendy [barf] main street of Brooklyn.

623 JCM  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:39:48pm

re: #605 NoSubmission

OKAY. I"m home and you won't believe what I saw in my neighborhood tonight. I took a pic for you guys. What does this mean?

WWII was a zionist plot to re-establish the Jewish State?

Some times I scare myself.

624 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:39:50pm

re: #611 goodbye_natalie

I have a question about the following:

Whatever happened to (1) Amalie/Bubble Girl and (2) Quella? I haven't seen them around in ages.


I have heard rumors that Bubble Girl is back at LGF, under a different name (which I shan't reveal because I could be completely wrong), because certain aspects of her previous biography (ER doc dating an NFL running back) may not have been completely true, and she realized it was getting a bit out of hand. That is just the rumor I've heard.

625 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:40:15pm

re: #619 SusanL

No
half the pancreas, the spleen, and a bunch of intestines.
Went back in later for the baby maker and one ovary.

626 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:40:25pm

re: #605 NoSubmission

That's a head scratcher. It could go either way. Maybe it's "art".

627 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:40:55pm

re: #623 JCM

re: #605 NoSubmission

OKAY. I"m home and you won't believe what I saw in my neighborhood tonight. I took a pic for you guys. What does this mean?

WWII was a zionist plot to re-establish the Jewish State?

Some times I scare myself.


I was almost going to ask the two zombies standing there what it meant, but they looked like their souls had long left their bodies. They weren't kids either.

628 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:41:09pm

re: #623 JCM

Holy shit you are probably right

629 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:41:23pm

re: #622 NoSubmission
To quote Ed, I have been drunk in brooklyn. ship was in drydock at the old navy yard. 1988.

630 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:41:43pm

re: #622 NoSubmission

maybe it's to "provoke thought" like that Andre the Giant has a Posse business

631 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:41:58pm

The Firecracker Muslims are described as terrorists by the FBI to the neighbors. Meanwhile the FBI cannot find anything terror related to the diverse youths when addressing the Press. The radio on the way home said the same thing in the news report. Not terror related.
[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

632 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:42:16pm

re: #630 bosforus


I'd like to provoke some thought on them.

633 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:42:26pm

re: #624 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Quella pops in rarely. I'm not sure if her blog is still up.

634 buzzdroid  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:42:33pm

somehow , with a bunch of leftist poltically correct Marxist socialist in charge over here, i doubt that we'll see a solution anytime soon.

in short - we're f**ked.

635 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:42:34pm

re: #630 bosforus

now, which thought it's intended to provoke, i have no clue

636 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:42:53pm
637 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:43:22pm
638 Bobblehead  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:44:28pm

re: #605 NoSubmission

OK.... I get the rising sun Hiroshima connection but damned if I can figure how the star of David relates to Nagasaki..Maybe because so many of the first nuclear scientists were Jewish? In other words if it weren't for the Joos there would have been no atomic bombs and there would be peace on earth for ever and ever.

/Moonbat logic

639 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:45:07pm

I have been drunk in Madison Square Garden, and in Nassau County, and in Saratoga County, but not in the other four boroughs of NYC.

640 BBEV  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:45:43pm

re: #531 sattv4u2

I got out of there 12 years ago now living in NH and hoping the rest will stay in Mass.

641 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:45:59pm

re: #637 ploome hineni

re: #624 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

ya know

you can't make this shit up!

Well , you can, but it wouldn't be as beleivable as what happens in "real life"

642 buzzdroid  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:46:07pm

oh and by the way america - in this case we Brits are ahead of the curve of you guys for once.

but that assumes that the next 10 years over there is a Democrat curve.

dont vote Democrat - unless you want this sort of crap happening over there anytime soon.

643 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:46:54pm

re: #636 ploome hineni

re: #624 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


re: #611 goodbye_natalie

I have a question about the following:
Whatever happened to (1) Amalie/Bubble Girl and (2) Quella? I haven't seen them around in ages.

I have heard rumors that Bubble Girl is back at LGF, under a different name (which I shan't reveal because I could be completely wrong), because certain aspects of her previous biography (ER doc dating an NFL running back) may not have been completely true, and she realized it was getting a bit out of hand. That is just the rumor I've heard.

its no secret what her name is now, is it?

and she lied ?

to the 100,000 plus people who read this blog, and know everything about her?


I only heard a rumor, have no idea if it is a fact, and for all I know BG was an ER doc who dated an NFL running back. And the new identity I heard, I have no way of knowing if it is correct, so there is no way I am going to create a crap-storm by saying something that could easily be wrong.

644 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:46:59pm
645 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:47:11pm

Romney looked great when he was angry. Cool. intelligent. Like Giuliani and Huckabee.

646 SusanL  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:47:58pm

re: #625 BabbaZee

I had to have my right kidney removed due to a congenital defect. I have an 8 inch scar on my side/back.

You know how you see "magicians" sawing people in half? Been there, can guarantee it is fake, and a damn lie at that.

Susan

647 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:48:21pm
648 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:48:28pm

re: #638 Bobblehead

re: #605 NoSubmission

OK.... I get the rising sun Hiroshima connection but damned if I can figure how the star of David relates to Nagasaki..Maybe because so many of the first nuclear scientists were Jewish? In other words if it weren't for the Joos there would have been no atomic bombs and there would be peace on earth for ever and ever.

/Moonbat logic


I forget which it was (H or N), but one of the nuked Japanese cities was the only city in Japan that had a substantial Roman Catholic population, and thus the US wiped out most of the RC's in Japan. I think I heard that, but I don't remember where.

649 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:48:31pm

re: #640 BBEV

re: #531 sattv4u2

I got out of there 12 years ago now living in NH and hoping the rest will stay in Mass.


Congrats. I escaped 9 years ago, but opted not to live next door! What part of Cow Hampshire did you escape too ?

650 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:48:32pm

re: #635 bosforus

re: #630 bosforus

now, which thought it's intended to provoke, i have no clue


I don' t know either but it doesn't seem good.

651 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:48:58pm

Unless someone is banned, the general practice here is allow a nic change without comment. There may be a reason. Just saying.

652 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:49:06pm
653 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:49:15pm

re: #644 buzzsawmonkey


I don't subscribe to, or indeed think much of, Mohammed's supposed "revelations"--but I get a little nervous about casually dismissing other people's holy books, if only because I can see a rabidly secular humanist regime doing exactly the same thing to the Torah--or to the New Testament, if it comes to that.

this is the crux of why we disagree right here
and when I am less insane I'll articulate why
It has to do with Islam being UNHOLY from a biblical POV, IMO

I dont have the utz for it now though

I am emailing this to myself so we can talk about it later though.

654 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:49:56pm

At this point I am not sure anything is OT, but Rep. Nancy Boyda D-Kansas walked out of an Armed Services hearing because she could not stand listening to good news from Iraq.

Sheeesh

655 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:49:58pm

re: #647 buzzsawmonkey

re: #605 NoSubmission

The red ball above the Star of David appears to be a suggestion to nuke Israel.


It does seem to telegraph that Israel is next.

656 Geepers  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:50:00pm

buzzsawmonkey (#644),

Islam also has a tradition of oral interpretation, it has, at least in theory, the ability to grow and to reform itself.

That's news to me. Any sources for that?

657 pat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:50:29pm

#648 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet
That would be Nagasaki. And the city with the second highest Christian population was Hiroshima.

658 Bill Amos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:51:32pm

Great news ! A new democratic debate is on for tonight !

And better yet its hosted by Keith Olbermann !

Can this be any greater a suckfest !?!?!?!?

659 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:52:32pm

re: #638 Bobblehead

re: #650 NoSubmission

yup. definitely a very negative vibe.

660 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:52:42pm

re: #646 SusanL

My scar runs from just above my left hip
following up under the rib cage
makes the V between the ribs
comes down under the right ribs
3/4 of the way back over to the right hip, the right side being just a bit shorter than the left, and also it has shrunk since it was done.
It's a real show stopper, LOL

661 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:52:47pm

re: #658 Bill Amos

Great news ! A new democratic debate is on for tonight !

And better yet its hosted by Keith Olbermann !

Can this be any greater a suckfest !?!?!?!?

If I get drunk enough in time, I'll live-blog it.

662 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:53:17pm

re: #655 NoSubmission

i thought the red dot was only meant to be the rising sun

663 Beagle  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:53:22pm

re: #656 Geepers

buzzsawmonkey (#644),

Islam also has a tradition of oral interpretation, it has, at least in theory, the ability to grow and to reform itself.

That's news to me. Any sources for that?

Probably the gates of ijtihad -- which slammed shut a thousand years ago. Irshad Manji and a few other people living in Canada, the UK, or US does not constitute a movement.

664 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:54:28pm

re: #654 David E


That's so she can honestly go back to her district and tell everyne she's never heard any good news coming from Iraq, and because of that, we should leave

665 RTLM  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:55:09pm

re: #605 NoSubmission

OKAY. I"m home and you won't believe what I saw in my neighborhood tonight. I took a pic for you guys. What does this mean?


Yesterday was the 62 year anniversary of the nuking of Hiroshima. Thursday is the date for Nagasaki. Appears the progressive artist would like to nuke Israel.

666 buzzdroid  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:55:24pm

re: #645 pat

Romney looked great when he was angry. Cool. intelligent. Like Giuliani and Huckabee.

i like Romney as well. i'm not a mormon, nor am i american (i'm a brit) , but he reminds me of the Gipper - Reagan. and by god do you guys need a Reagan right now in the war against Islamofascism.

667 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:55:27pm

re: #662 bosforus

re: #655 NoSubmission

i thought the red dot was only meant to be the rising sun


I just noticed someone wrote 'never forget' on the sidewalk in chalk. Ironic.

668 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:56:15pm

#651 pat 8/07/2007 3:48:58 pm PDT reply quote


Unless someone is banned, the general practice here is allow a nic change without comment. There may be a reason. Just saying.

yup.

669 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:56:25pm

re: #644 buzzsawmonkey

and that as Islam also has a tradition of oral interpretation, it has, at least in theory, the ability to grow and to reform itself.

I wish I had kept the post from here that someone posted a bit earlier on this but it said something along the lines of that Christianity had something to reform from, while the koran does not. I know I'm totally butchering that post's jist too. Ahh well, I hope that person pipes in here to explain it again if they are around.

I don't suspect that a cult can reform if it's very center calls for their followers to go kill people and gives them explicit instructions. Like the dutch politician said, half the koran would need to be torn out to even start to reform.

For me, it is good enough for me that Christians have the new testament and Jesus' teachings to say phooey to those who try to draw the parallels to the bible and koran. While you may not be doing that in this thread (honestly I'm getting lost in all the jargon so I'm not even sure what half the people are saying any longer lol), I see this argument on other sites and it makes me roll my eyes and feel they are trying to deflect the real issues of islam that we are now all trying to come to terms with.

670 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:56:52pm

re: #667 NoSubmission

that was one of the first things i noticed. it looks cute with that stick couple next to it. contrasted with whatever that yellow and red junk is

671 Bill Amos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:57:00pm
605 NoSubmission 8/07/2007 3:34:37 pm PDT reply quote

OKAY. I"m home and you won't believe what I saw in my neighborhood tonight. I took a pic for you guys. What does this mean?

Quite simple Albert Einstein was Jewish so it means that the Jews created the A bomb and killed millions.

Moonbat logic at its best

672 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:57:15pm
673 Eowyn2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:57:24pm

re: #627 NoSubmission

Frightening. Maybe I should just buy firearms for Christmas presents.

674 BBEV  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:58:32pm

re: #649 sattv4u2
Manchester and Hooksett. Looking to move a little north of Concord soon.

675 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:58:50pm

re: #668 BabbaZee

#651 pat 8/07/2007 3:48:58 pm PDT reply quote



Unless someone is banned, the general practice here is allow a nic change without comment. There may be a reason. Just saying.

yup.


I have 3 or 4 variations of Ed Mahmoud, under different open registrations, but I have decided, especially since I'm hazy on exact spelling and p'word stuff, just to let the Sock Puppet talk for me.

676 apachegunner  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:58:52pm

ok, again from Ft. Bragg, hotter than hell, hello lizards.....anyone heard from Realwest?

677 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 3:58:56pm

re: #671 Bill Amos

605 NoSubmission 8/07/2007 3:34:37 pm PDT reply quote OKAY. I"m home and you won't believe what I saw in my neighborhood tonight. I took a pic for you guys. What does this mean?

Quite simple Albert Einstein was Jewish so it means that the Jews created the A bomb and killed millions.

Moonbat logic at its best


I think you've come the closest, although with the most acute of moonbatterie there is almost no telling how strange they can be.

678 Bobblehead  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:00:18pm

re: #665 RTLM

You're probably correct. The fault in my interpretation is the assumption that the artist has a brain. Whoever painted it probably has no clue who worked on the first nuclear weapons.

679 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:00:34pm

I think the other thing we need to be careful of is dealing in theories.

The libs have a great theory I think, let's all get along and talk it out.....

The sticky part is....what is happening in reality.

680 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:00:37pm
I am Eleanor Roosevelt!


Hi Geepers!

LOL

681 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:01:15pm

re: #676 apachegunnerYessir, he was here earlier. we were talking about the MoH.

682 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:01:18pm
683 SusanL  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:02:24pm

re: #660 BabbaZee

Car wreck?

684 apachegunner  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:02:46pm

re: #681 pingjockey good........

685 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:03:08pm

Real West is here almost every morning.


But I'm gone, time to go home...

686 friarstale  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:03:16pm

ok, I watched all 5
what do I get?

687 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:03:21pm

re: #666 buzzdroid

i like Romney as well. i'm not a mormon, nor am i american (i'm a brit) , but he reminds me of the Gipper - Reagan. and by god do you guys need a Reagan right now in the war against Islamofascism.

buzzdroid, with all due respect, he certainly doesn't remind me of Reagan. Imagine Reagan proposing a big aid package to the Soviets so they'd be America-friendly and prosperous. Romney and Reagan may both resemble football heroes, but on the important points I think one is a lion and the other is a groundhog.

688 Bill Amos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:03:30pm

Isent charles a story that will cause some chaos. Apparently AP news is asserting that Buddist death squads are active in Thailand and its them and not Muslims who are doing the killing.

I kid you not. That is what they are saying

689 SusanL  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:03:38pm

re: #675 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I have one or two other nic's as well, only changed cause I forgot the p'word as well.

I wrote it down this time.

Susan

690 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:04:18pm

I am Spartacus! re: #682 buzzsawmonkey

Taqiyya and Kitman.
Just saying.

LYING and DECEPTION are holy sacraments of Islam

you do the math.

The Imams can say or do ANYTHING ever so long as it advances jihad and moves to establish the Caliphate

can change ANYTHING at any time
so long as it advances jihad and moves to establish the Caliphate

Islam is a doctrine of war and triumphalism
Judaism and Christianity are not

/I gotta go

BBL

691 apachegunner  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:04:28pm

and what of those "fireworks" down near goose creek? not to far me and it took days to find they were of middle eastern extract.....

692 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:04:33pm

re: #683 SusanL

cancer

693 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:05:02pm

re: #683 SusanLWas in Portland 2 weeks ago. If i had a cooler and a half rack could've been entertained just by the parade of very odd people going by. our shop is on 14th st.

694 reine.de.tout  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:05:31pm

re: #573 BabbaZee

re: #567 SusanL

Thanks.
This is cold turkey day three (I think) and for some reason today is worse than the last two days.

BabbaZee - I quit once (restarted, though), but I recall the 3rd day being the worst day, for some reason. Tomorrow should be a little bit better. hang in there.

695 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:06:03pm
696 friarstale  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:06:14pm

re: #689 SusanL

re: #675 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I have one or two other nic's as well, only changed cause I forgot the p'word as well.

I wrote it down this time.

Susan


I have only ever had one name and password
I thought about trying to get a second name to agree or argue with myself, but Charles don't like that, and besides, it only means you have to keep everything straight

oh, what a tangled web we weave
when first we practice to deceive

697 friarstale  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:06:33pm

re: #696 friarstale

698 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:06:34pm

re: #694 reine.de.tout

thanks very much for telling me that
I sure hope tomorrow is better


aggggg
I gotta go
BBL

699 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:06:52pm

Damn Buddhists


s/

700 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:06:57pm

re: #686 friarstale

ok, I watched all 5
what do I get?

A fatwa.

701 friarstale  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:07:09pm

re: #697 friarstale

oh, shut up, friarstale
who asked you?

oops!

702 Highrise  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:08:07pm

ok time for dinner.

I enjoyed our convo today.

Buzz, hope you didn't think I was busting your chops today..you are one I normally make sure I read the posts of, even if our takes on things are of a different perspective.

703 friarstale  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:08:19pm

re: #696 friarstale

man, friarstale, i really agree with you

704 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:08:23pm

Why only two names in this story ? I suspect the Zoroastrians.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

705 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:08:25pm
706 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:08:52pm

The dwarves are having a debate and uberdork is going to moderate? Tequila and beer for sure. Moonbats on parade.

707 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:08:59pm

re: #677 NoSubmission

re: #671 Bill Amos

605 NoSubmission 8/07/2007 3:34:37 pm PDT reply quote OKAY. I"m home and you won't believe what I saw in my neighborhood tonight. I took a pic for you guys. What does this mean?

Quite simple Albert Einstein was Jewish so it means that the Jews created the A bomb and killed millions.

Moonbat logic at its best


I think you've come the closest, although with the most acute of moonbatterie there is almost no telling how strange they can be.

Bill Amos had a key element of moonbatterie, a half truth. Einstein did not help in the creation of the nuclear bombs other than warning Roosevelt that the third reich was researching the same.

708 apachegunner  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:09:43pm

re: #707 bosforus
I was going to say that :)

709 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:10:23pm

re: #707 bosforus Were Oppenheimer and Teller jewish?

710 apachegunner  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:10:34pm

and where is Charles off to today?

711 apachegunner  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:11:54pm

any lizards at the Kos convention this weekend?

712 SusanL  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:12:14pm

re: #693 pingjockey

Yes, very strange people around these parts.

Moonbatitis is a sad sight.

Susan

713 apachegunner  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:12:15pm

or should that be last?

714 Ma Sands  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:12:29pm

re: #559 Killgore Trout

Yes. Thank you. I enjoyed it immensely. Sent it on to a young violin player friend of mine --even though she mostly does classical and bluegrass...... :)

715 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:12:52pm

re: #711 apachegunner

PJ media was there, got some interesting videos.

716 apachegunner  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:13:23pm

re: #715 David E
posted?

717 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:14:43pm
718 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:14:49pm

re: #716 apachegunner


Yeah. Just follow the general link at the upper right on this page for PJ Media front page.

719 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:15:20pm

re: #709 pingjockey

re: #707 bosforus Were Oppenheimer and Teller jewish?

I have no idea. I only know as much as I said. Oh yeah, I also find it interesting that Einstein later regretted having told Roosevelt what he did. I don't know if it's because he regretted nuclear technology or if he regretted it because he didn't know if it was accurate. Regardless, there's been evidence that Germany was indeed researching and came close to developing nuclear technology.

720 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:16:06pm

re: #719 bosforus

chin up, einstein!

721 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:16:32pm
722 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:17:53pm
723 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:19:01pm

re: #719 bosforus

re: #709 pingjockey


re: #707 bosforus Were Oppenheimer and Teller jewish?

I have no idea. I only know as much as I said. Oh yeah, I also find it interesting that Einstein later regretted having told Roosevelt what he did. I don't know if it's because he regretted nuclear technology or if he regretted it because he didn't know if it was accurate. Regardless, there's been evidence that Germany was indeed researching and came close to developing nuclear technology.


Oppenheimer regretted it, one of the things he did after was start the Exploratorium.
You should bookmark the site if you have children, it's fun, and a great place to see scientific principles in demonstrations children can understand.

724 Zardah  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:19:15pm

I'm sure someone OT'd this already:

Your Black Muslim Bakery Linked To Murder.


A multi-agency raid hit Your Black Muslim Bakery in Oakland early yesterday, along with some other properties owned by the bakery. Seven men were arrested and several firearms were seized, among them one police believe was used to murder prominent black newspaperman Chauncy Bailey early Thursday morning. Among those arrested was Yusef Bey IV, the son of the late local Black Muslim leader, well-known child molester and founder of the bakery, Yusef Bey. Shortly after the raid the health department closed and boarded up the building for numerous health code violations.

Bailey was known to not be a fan of the local Black Muslim sect, and was preparing an unflattering piece on the Your Black Muslim Bakery at the time of his murder. Members of this group had previously been arrested for trashing local liquor stores, apparently to express their religious opposition to the consumption of alcohol (or possibly due to the businesses refusing to pay protection money, depending on who you believe).

Remember, Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance. And if you don't agree, they will trash your place of business and kill you.

725 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:19:40pm
726 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:20:24pm
727 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:20:30pm

re: #720 bosforus

re: #719 bosforus

chin up, einstein!


Or is it saying we should have dropped the bomb on Germany too? ..../nah!

728 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:21:41pm

re: #723 Thanos

cool site. no children but i'm sure i could keep myself entertained there for a while.

729 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:22:57pm
730 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:23:38pm

Yes, the History channel had a lot of stuff about the Nazi bomb program. The were going to build a Anti-Podal bomber. Looked like the shuttle. But no nuke, instead a dirty bomb over new york. would fly from germany up to 80 miles high, just sub-orbital, drop its payload, and glide back.

731 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:23:44pm
732 Born Again Republican  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:23:49pm

re: #654 David E

I happened to watch that on C-Span. It really stood out because General Keane was inspiring. Then about an hour later he left she chose to come back in and say....

As many of us — there was only so much that you could take until we in fact had to leave the room for a while. So I think I am back and maybe can articulate some things — after so much of the frustration of having to listen to what we listened to.

She came away looking very stupid.

733 SeafoodGumbo  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:24:05pm

re: #573 BabbaZee

re: #567 SusanL

Thanks.
This is cold turkey day three (I think) and for some reason today is worse than the last two days.

Keep it up! I'm currently at two weeks on my quitting cigarettes. One of the things I do when I want a cigarette (which actually isn't that often since I'm disgusted with the things) is to look at pictures of smokers' lungs.

And it helps to replace the bad habit with a new good one, so I'm trying to exercise and work out. Hang in there!

734 Geepers  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:24:06pm

apachegunner (#710),

and where is Charles off to today?

He's out on the town.

735 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:24:49pm
736 apachegunner  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:25:09pm

re: #734 Geepers ;) good one......

737 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:26:06pm

I'll only say this about the equivalency of Islam vs. Judeo-Christian. And I won't even get into the spiritual realm which is, of course, the basic premise for the reason that one is far superior to the other.

Let the record speak for itself. Does anyone see the downtrodden rushing to immigrate to Muslim countries in the here and now?

738 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:27:19pm

re: #729 buzzsawmonkey

re: #723 Thanos

Oppenheimer, of course, was later tried and stripped of his security clearance because of his leftist connections.

My father always referred to Teller as "the most evil man he'd ever met." He would never say why. I always wondered, since it was Teller who gave the direct authorization for him to produce the tritium for the Eniwetok tests.

Ever see the movie "Dr. Strangelove" ? Dr. Strangelove was Edward Teller. He was somewhat demonized in the day...

739 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:27:51pm

re: #735 buzzsawmonkeyHave you read "The Sum of All fears" give Clancy credit the damn scenario is plausible. can't comment on the technical aspects, the tritium storage and such, but getting people to run CNC milling machines isn't to difficult.

740 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:29:19pm
741 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:29:23pm

Why is it always conservatives who get the political blame for natural disasters?

[Link: www.nysun.com...]

742 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:29:49pm
743 goodbye_natalie  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:30:01pm

re: #735 buzzsawmonkey

No wonder your writings are so damn good - you got the gene pool. 3H - something to brag about and most impressive. And to think I came from poor, white trash.

I didn't realize I was friends to high company. You'll probably disown me now after I revealed my dark secrets.

744 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:30:24pm

re: #725 ploome hineni


Fermi's wife Laura was an Italian Jew, that's why Fermi moved to the US.

745 paxnhymn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:30:37pm

Love the video, especially the last inteview! My favorite part:
"If you take the ummah out of islam then islam dies."

uhhh...I'm ok with that. Where do I start?

746 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:30:43pm
747 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:30:45pm

PARIS Â-- President Sarkozy broke off from his American holiday yesterday in an attempt to end the controversy surrounding a French arms deal with Libya. Speaking in Wolfeboro, a resort near Boston, Mr. Sarkozy, 52, insisted there was no connection between France's role in securing the release of five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian Arab doctor from Libya and the African country's subsequent decision to buy anti-tank missiles and radio systems worth $400 million from a largely French-owned company.

France's Socialist Party opposition last week demanded an inquiry after Saif al-Islam, the son of Libyan leader Muammar Gadhafi, suggested that there was a link between the two deals.

But Mr. Sarkozy said, "The contract was not linked to the release of the nurses. What do they criticize me for? Getting contracts? Creating jobs for French workers?"

748 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:31:23pm

re: #732 Born Again Republican


Thanks for that little bit of follow up. Can we question their loyalty?

749 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:31:48pm
750 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:32:00pm

For those who missed it earlier today, an idea whose time has come.

751 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:33:08pm

re: #742 buzzsawmonkeyHe's a good read but some of the books start slow, tying all of the threads together. In "The Bear and the Dragon" china invades russia and it takes 4/5ths of the book to set it up.

752 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:33:21pm
753 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:34:41pm

re: #749 buzzsawmonkey


My dad was at Los Alamos.

754 apachegunner  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:34:47pm

re: #750 Carl in Jerusalem Israel would strike first, unless Olmert was still in charge.....

755 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:34:57pm
756 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:35:13pm

London, Aug 7 : A Bangladeshi immigrant who broke out of a detention centre in the UK was caught after the home he went asking for help and shelter turned out to be that of a cop.

The immigrant was one of 26 broke out of Campsfield House detention centre, Oxfordshire, on August 5.

Police officer Bill Smith, 50, revealed that the shoeless man turned up at his house at 9am on August 6. As soon as he recognised the man, Smith told his wife Sheila to call police.

When the runaway tried to escape for the second time be climbing over the garden fence, Smith was able to restrain him till other officers arrived to take him back.

"I sat him in a garden chair and gave him a drink of water and he calmed down. He was frightened and didn't want to go back. But as a prison officer you're never off duty," Ananova quoted Smith, as telling the Sun.

And, this isn't the first time that Smith has had escaped detainees in his garden, for it has happened twice before

757 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:35:31pm

#471 BabbaZee

I am nicotine starved! This Chantrix DOES block out the receptors that take in the big NIC. That does not mean that my body and mind aren't pissed off!

Argh!

Tough day.

758 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:35:34pm

re: #750 Carl in JerusalemOh yes, the lamestream media had coniptions about this.

759 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:36:28pm
760 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:37:02pm

buzzsaw and ploome
Very interesting!

761 NoSubmission  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:37:33pm

Anyone watching the Dem debate? THey're getting feisty!

762 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:39:06pm

re: #761 NoSubmission

Unless it comes to a fist fight or somebody ruffles little Eddies hair I don't care.

763 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:40:23pm
764 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:40:30pm

re: #761 NoSubmission

let me guess, hillary and obama?

765 paxnhymn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:40:35pm

re: #750 Carl in Jerusalem

Sorry to be blunt, as Kos and the rest of the nutballs love to quote me, but Tancredo is right. I'd go a step further, though. The next time a car bomb explodes in Iraq...level a small holy site. Sure it'll galvanize them, but they'll stand in solidarity...and do nothing because they finally know we mean business. We definitely don't need their kind of freindship, i.e., Saudi, so as my friend from Kos would say, "screw em".

766 Killian Bundy  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:40:53pm

re: #757 BulgarWheat

Three weeks.

/if you can make it three weeks, it's all downhill from there

767 vxbush  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:41:35pm

re: #757 BulgarWheat

Hey--you could have had as asthma attack, like me.

Your choice which problems you get to deal with.

768 vxbush  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:42:13pm

re: #753 David E

re: #749 buzzsawmonkey

Mine too, but many, many years later.

My dad was at Los Alamos.

769 vxbush  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:42:29pm

PIMF: I should not try to breathe and post.

770 JCM  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:43:17pm

re: #761 NoSubmission

Anyone watching the Dem debate? THey're getting feisty!

Somebody ask Hillary if she prefers thongs or briefs?

771 DesertSage  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:43:19pm

The mind wobbles...

772 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:43:23pm

The debates already on? well just poop!

773 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:44:08pm

well, i just turned on the "debate." they're not even calling it a debate, but a "Presidential Forum."

774 paxnhymn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:46:15pm

re: #771 DesertSage

The mind wobbles...

deja view?

:-D

775 AirForceWife  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:46:31pm

#750 Carl in Jerusalem 8/07/2007 4:32:00 pm PDT

For those who missed it earlier today, an idea whose time has come.

If the U.S were to be attacked by a nuclear weapon, holy sites being nuked will be the last thing the Muslim nations will need to be worried about.

Thanks for the reminder to go to Tancredo's site and give yet another donation. He rocks! "when the state dept criticizes what I say, I start to feel a whole lot better about what it is I say".........LOL, if that's not quick wit and a strong backbone in the face of political correctness gone nuts, I don't know what is.

776 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:46:37pm

Obama promises that his first act as prez will be to call the JCS and get them to end the war.

Hillary says voting against the supplemental was the only way to "get a message" to Bush and the Republicans. I got the message: she's an unpatriotic, lying bitch.

777 SeafoodGumbo  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:46:51pm

re: #757 BulgarWheat

#471 BabbaZee

I am nicotine starved! This Chantrix DOES block out the receptors that take in the big NIC. That does not mean that my body and mind aren't pissed off!

Argh!

Tough day.

Which of these lungs do you want?

I'm going running right now. I challenge you to go exercise and forget about the smokes for a half hour. Deal?

778 Fredlike  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:47:02pm

I know this got mentioned earlier but here is a link to the story from Drudge

Beauchamp Recants

THE WEEKLY STANDARD has learned from a military source close to the investigation that Pvt. Scott Thomas Beauchamp--author of the much-disputed "Shock Troops" article in the New Republic's July 23 issue as well as two previous "Baghdad Diarist" columns--signed a sworn statement admitting that all three articles he published in the New Republic were exaggerations and falsehoods--fabrications containing only "a smidgen of truth," in the words of our source.

Separately, we received this statement from Major Steven F. Lamb, the deputy Public Affairs Officer for Multi National Division-Baghdad:

An investigation has been completed and the allegations made by PVT Beauchamp were found to be false. His platoon and company were interviewed and no one could substantiate the claims.

779 Salem  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:47:34pm

My Dad knew Albert Einstein. Um, we're not Jewish, though...

780 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:47:35pm

A presidential forum of people definitely not qualified to be president. It is to weep.

781 DesertSage  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:47:43pm

re: #774 paxnhymn

re: #771 DesertSage

The mind wobbles...

deja view?

:-D

It's been wobbling all day...

782 BabbaZee  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:48:22pm

Bulgar ~

Help!

I'm surrounded by the descendants of rocket scientists, and I have no nicotine in me.

lol

I am out of here for the night

have fun everyone

783 bosforus  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:48:33pm

i'm done for the day. well, at least until i get home.re: #776 squarepeg

every time Obama talks about the war all I hear is: preventing genocide in Iraq is not a good enough reason to stay so screw him.

784 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:48:38pm

Chris Dodd is saying Obama blew it in his threat to hit Pahk-ee-stahn, and Obama hits back by saying how dare you criticize me after you voted us into the wrong war. And he's sticking by his offer to hit them.

785 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:48:47pm

Airlines sue FBI an CIA to release information on 9/11

The airlines have multiple lawsuits from families against them, so are suiing to gain information to defend themselves with.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

This might be callous, but didn't the 9/11 families already receive a lot of largesse from relief funds etc? Have they sued Al Qaeda? Said Qutb? The Saudis?

786 DesertSage  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:49:05pm

My dad was Jewish...but he was no Albert Einstein.

787 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:49:40pm

re: #768 vxbush

My dad worked on the telemetry for Fat Man (as an Engineer). After the war he went back and got a PhD in Physics and a job at LANL from 1951 to 1982 (?).

788 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:50:29pm

Hillary hits Obama. Sez it's a mistake to telegraph our intentions to hit an ally, and dumb to destabilize Musharraf, and idiot Obama shouldn't say everything he thinks when he's running for prez. Crowd boos her.

Dodd piles on and says it's dangerous to go in unilaterally to Pakistan; Obama does soft shoe.

789 paxnhymn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:50:31pm

re: #776 squarepeg

ahhhhm! you said " bitch"! Oh. you don't live in NYC?

never mind.

790 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:50:35pm
791 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:50:42pm

"Just Answer Me One (1) Question"

Why do all of these guys look like they're dressed to HOLD UP A 7-11? ENQUIRING MINDS WOULD LOVE TO KNOW.

-S-

792 Hooray for Captain Spaulding  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:51:01pm
Mohamed told the arresting officer he used materials he bought at a Wal-Mart, according to the affidavit.

"A few houshold chemicals in the proper proportions"

/Burt Gummer

793 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:51:12pm

Obama snidely says it can't just be up to "Washington insiders" to discuss foreign policy.

794 vxbush  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:51:14pm

re: #787 David E

re: #768 vxbush

My dad worked on the telemetry for Fat Man (as an Engineer). After the war he went back and got a PhD in Physics and a job at LANL from 1951 to 1982 (?).

My dad used to work for one of the defense tech companies and spent some time at LA during the '80s and '90s. He's long since retired.

795 DesertSage  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:52:11pm

Alright, you guys piqued my interest...where do I find this so called debate?

796 Fredlike  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:52:25pm

My Dad worked on rockets in his early career. I still remember reading the manuals on ramjets and guidance systems he brought home. Mostly antiballistic missile stuff. The plan was to launch a nuclear tipped missile at the incoming Russian warheads and have it explode taking out the incoming missile at high altitude. I'm not sure if the new much about the EMP generated by high altitude explosions at that time or that was discovered later.

797 AirForceWife  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:52:32pm

#784 squarepeg 8/07/2007 4:48:38 pm PDT reply quote

Chris Dodd is saying Obama blew it in his threat to hit Pahk-ee-stahn, and Obama hits back by saying how dare you criticize me after you voted us into the wrong war. And he's sticking by his offer to hit them.

Obama is an idiot. To the extent that the central govt in Pakistan has control over its various regions, it has worked with us. What a moron.

798 paxnhymn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:53:30pm

re: #793 squarepeg

Obama snidely says it can't just be up to "Washington insiders" to discuss foreign policy.

uhhh...waitaminit...he's Washington insider! Ya know he's effing crazy. The Shillary is downright dangerous but obama is a freakin' nutcase!

799 storagemanager  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:54:15pm

re: #782 BabbaZee

Bulgar ~

Help!

I'm surrounded by the descendants of rocket scientists, and I have no nicotine in me.

lol

I am out of here for the night

have fun everyone

Hi Babba blue now.

800 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:54:21pm

#766 Killian Bundy

It actually just dawned on me today that Chantix isn't going to let me have the Nicotine. I was pissed off yesterday, and it took me until today to figure it out.
I'm going to drive on this time and keep taking the medicine. The blood pressure is too high and I've still got young ones at home.
Work has not been a help though. I'm going to cut back from 16 hours a day somehow.

801 Salem  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:54:23pm

re: #786 DesertSage

My dad was Jewish...but he was no Albert Einstein.

Yeah, but who is, you know? Except Albert Einstein. And I understand even he doesn't answer to that name anymore.

802 storagemanager  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:54:35pm

now

803 vxbush  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:54:49pm

Maybe all these candidates aren't getting enough oxygen to the brain.

I volunteer to give them all inhalers. It might help.

804 FrogMarch  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:54:57pm
805 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:55:08pm

re: #797 AirForceWifeIdiot is a charitable term. The man has no concept of the evil abroad in the world.

806 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:55:09pm
807 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:55:11pm

re: #789 paxnhymn

re: #776 squarepeg

ahhhhm! you said " bitch"! Oh. you don't live in NYC?

never mind.

Now that the commercial is on, I can type what I really meant: she's a lying, unpatriotic, triple-talking, rapist-protecting, profane, dangerous, young-eating, manipulative, greedy, power-mad bitch.

808 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:55:36pm

Sorry if this one is obvious, but I did a search on Charles' cool search engine and didn't see much. I passed a car coming home with the Michigan license plate "NABLUS 6". Now, is this a reference to some terrorist clique or something? This wasn't a bumber sticker, but an official state vanity plate. Also, I live on the sane side of the state, not near Dearborn. Anyone have any thoughts?

809 David E  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:55:45pm

re: #790 buzzsawmonkey


Yeah, Norris Bradbury wanted team players not arrogant newbies. My dad filled right in. I grew up with Bradbury as a family friend.

Personally my best time was when I was Hans Bethe's lackey (fetched coffee etc, a real lackey). Dr. Bethe was a real sweetheart.

810 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:56:00pm

re: #795 DesertSage

DesertSage, it's on MSNBC. You get the extra added bonus of watching Keith Olbermann moderate.

811 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:56:06pm
812 DesertSage  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:56:12pm

I need sleep! I scrolled down too far and I kept hitting the "post this comment" button hoping that a new comment would appear.

Nothing was happening.

After a while I scrolled back up and saw the "new comments" button.
My mind is wobbling...

813 vxbush  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:56:29pm

re: #807 squarepeg

re: #789 paxnhymn

re: #776 squarepeg

ahhhhm! you said " bitch"! Oh. you don't live in NYC?

never mind.

Now that the commercial is on, I can type what I really meant: she's a lying, unpatriotic, triple-talking, rapist-protecting, profane, dangerous, young-eating, manipulative, greedy, power-mad bitch.

Come one, squarepeg. Don't hold back! It's not healthy.

814 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:57:07pm

re: #807 squarepeg You forgot ungrateful, stupid, no good, lazy (can't remember the rest

815 Salem  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:57:32pm

re: #811 buzzsawmonkey

Agoogling I will go. brb...

816 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:57:32pm

re: #804 FrogMarch

Steve Green is drunk-blogging the debates

I'm sober, and I'm going away with my tail between my legs.

817 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:58:41pm

re: #808 Spenser (with an S)

Sorry if this one is obvious, but I did a search on Charles' cool search engine and didn't see much. I passed a car coming home with the Michigan license plate "NABLUS 6". Now, is this a reference to some terrorist clique or something? This wasn't a bumber sticker, but an official state vanity plate. Also, I live on the sane side of the state, not near Dearborn. Anyone have any thoughts?

Nablus, known as the site of biblical Shechem, is one of the largest Palestinian cities with a population of more than 50,000 people. The area of Biblical Shechem can be found in Balata, which is in the eastern section of the city.

Historically, Abraham traveled through Shechem on his way to Canaan and offered his first sacrifice to G-d. After the conquest of Canaan, Joshua assembled the Israelites here and encouraged them to follow the Mosaic laws. During the period of the Judges, Abimelech was crowned king here. Biblical Shechem was destroyed by the Assyrians in the 8th century BCE.

Inside the area known as Biblical Shechem are the remains of a defensive wall, a 3,600-year-old Hyksos temple and Joseph’s Tomb. During an outbreak of violence in October 2000, Palestinian rioters destroyed Joseph’s Tomb and were reportedly building a mosque on the site.

818 pingjockey  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:58:53pm

Going home now to watch the donk looney tunes. nite all.

819 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:58:56pm

Obama is going to be our next President.

820 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:59:09pm

re: #793 squarepeg

Obama snidely says it can't just be up to "Washington insiders" to discuss foreign policy.

"SP" -

Obama may just have it right - HOWEVER - he hasn't learned the basic lesson that is there for all those who might see.
The lesson is - G-d gave you two (2) ears to hear, two (2) nostrils to smell, two (2) hands to feel, and two (2) eyes to see. G-d has ALSO given all y'all one (1) mouth to speak. ACT ACCORDINGLY!
That is all.

-S-

821 Q-Burn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:59:10pm

Funniest Dem line so far: "in a Kucinich administration"...

822 vxbush  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 4:59:12pm

re: #811 buzzsawmonkey

Yeah, but S. Ulam (?sp), one of the mathematicians on the project, was pretty cool.

823 Fredlike  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:00:08pm

re: #808 Spenser (with an S)

Sorry if this one is obvious, but I did a search on Charles' cool search engine and didn't see much. I passed a car coming home with the Michigan license plate "NABLUS 6". Now, is this a reference to some terrorist clique or something? This wasn't a bumber sticker, but an official state vanity plate. Also, I live on the sane side of the state, not near Dearborn. Anyone have any thoughts?

Found a reference to the Israelis capturing 6 Palis in Nablus, but it was dated July 24th 2007 so that seems a little quick to get a license plate.

824 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:00:16pm
825 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:00:25pm

Nablus in the West Bank is the market center for a region where wheat and olives are grown and sheep and goats are grazed. Manufactures include soap made from olive oil and colorful shepherds' coats.

On September 13, 1993, the late Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles, which outlined a six-year timetable for achieving permanent and comprehensive peace between Israel and the Palestinians. On May 4, 1994, Rabin and Arafat initialed an accord implementing the first stage of that agreement: self-rule for Gaza and Jericho under the administration of a Palestinian Authority (PA). On September 28, 1995, the Interim Agreement was signed, calling for a phased Israeli withdrawal from certain areas of the West Bank. By 1999, six West Bank cities (Nablus, Tulkarm, Ramallah, Jenin, Bethlehem, Qalqilyah) had been turned over to the PA.

826 Salem  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:00:36pm

All that and a musician. How about that? Einstein could barely dress himself, if rumor can be trusted. And I usually don't. Trust rumor, I mean.

827 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:01:01pm

re: #808 Spenser (with an S)

Spence -

Proves one thing and one thing only - YOUR MI DMV Doesn't have a CLUE!

-S-

828 JCM  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:01:13pm

re: #808 Spenser (with an S)

Sorry if this one is obvious, but I did a search on Charles' cool search engine and didn't see much. I passed a car coming home with the Michigan license plate "NABLUS 6". Now, is this a reference to some terrorist clique or something? This wasn't a bumber sticker, but an official state vanity
plate. Also, I live on the sane side of the state, not near Dearborn. Anyone have any thoughts?

First hit on google.
[Link: www.helga.com...]

829 DesertSage  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:01:42pm

Olbermann is going to be our next Press Secretary.

830 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:01:51pm

Someone wants to know why active-duty troops have to buy some of their own stuff. Chris Dodd says our soldiers deserve the best we have to offer . . . seemingly civilianhood.

831 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:04:04pm

Here's Electronic Intifada's page on Nablus

[Link: electronicintifada.net...]

832 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:04:06pm

re: #821 Q-Burn

Funniest Dem line so far: "in a Kucinich administration"...

"Q" -

WHEN I AM MISS AMERICA, CROWNED IN ATLANTIC CITY, NJ!

-S-

833 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:04:13pm

I wish I were drunk-blogging this.

Some guy in a wheelchair goes on t.v. and cries because he can't afford to buy healthcare for his wife. Edwards gets the question and calls for universal healthcare to massive applause. He sez he's going to exlain to America how important unions are to America when he's prez. Talks about his days on the picket lines and runs over the clock.

834 Ma Sands  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:04:52pm

re: #737 goodbye_natalie

In any lie, there is the germ of truth.........that's why it is so hard to get someone to turn from it.......and likewise, how it can be a hook to bring such a one to the truth...............have you not found such? :)

835 vxbush  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:05:51pm

I wish I had chocolate here at the house. Grrr.

836 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:05:51pm

Hillary says Bush is responsible for deaths in the Sago (sp?) mine. We will build our manufacturing sector with the help of the AFL-CIO. Get ready to pay fifty bucks for a tee-shirt.

837 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:05:56pm

re: #823 Fredlike

Nablus is what you get when Romans rename a Jewish city, then an Arab occupies it and attempts to pronounce NAPLES!

838 Thanos  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:06:18pm

Nablus holds six seat on the Palestinian legislative council, maybe the car belonged to one of these guys:

Ahmad Ahmad Hamas
Hamid Kdayr Hamas
Mahmud al-Al'ul Fatah
Riyad 'Amla Hamas Detained in Israel
Husni Burini Yasin Hamas Detained in Israel
Dawud Abu Sayr Hamas

839 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:06:24pm

re: #828 JCM

Yeah, just saw that. The slides toward the end get more "interesting". I guess the "6" refers to his kids? Great, maybe this was one of them.

840 Salem  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:07:05pm

There's a debate on? Jeez, it's like a marathon this year. There should be a limit.

841 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:08:43pm

Barrack is a Union Guy, eh?

Guess that's the end of his campaign.

842 JCM  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:08:55pm

re: #840 Salem

There's a debate on? Jeez, it's like a marathon this year. There should be a limit.

Round robin duels to thin the field?

843 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:09:05pm

Some legal immigrant from S. America asks if "undocumented workers" will get a path to citizenship. Obama gets the question and sez it's possible for us to be a nation of laws AND a nation of (illegal) immigrants. He also says to hold the employers accountable -- for giving illegal aliens benefits and high wages. Tied up with a "they have to take their place in line and play by the rules," which makes it a big, meaningless, sloppy sundae of scofflawism and phoney tough talk.

844 daughter of patriots  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:09:36pm

re: #829 DesertSage

Olbermann is going to be our next Press Secretary.

I'm praying your moniker is not accurate. Cancel, cancel, cancel! Rebuke that sentence! Out, damned spot!

845 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:10:11pm

Edwards claimed he was the biggest picket-line walker. Then Obama says he's walked more lines. Now Biden is saying he's walked even more lines.

846 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:11:16pm

Yet again the healthcare question. Guess how Kucinich answers?

847 Salem  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:11:17pm

re: #842 JCM

Round robin duels to thin the field?

Cage match! Who's got the biggest cock!

At this point, I'd settle for the best thumb-wrestler. The world is ruled by a great shadowy cabal, anyway...

848 Q-Burn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:11:33pm

I was once a card-carrying Teamster. Q-Burn for Pres!

849 jelo  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:11:35pm

I heard Biden just admit he "cranium plagiarism's"!

850 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:11:58pm

is this on the net somewhere?

851 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:12:00pm
852 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:12:19pm

Olbermans lips are so far up Hillarys butt, she has to open her mouth so the others can hear Kieths questions

853 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:12:29pm

Edwards gets a chance to say he's walked even MORE picket lines than Biden. Edwards believes in an America where scabs can't take jobs from picketers.

854 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:13:23pm

....even though he's from a right-to-work state. AAAAANNNd he runs over the clock.

855 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:13:48pm

The Silky Pony is now calling anyone who crosses a picket line a "Scab". How nice.

I was a "Scab" when I got out of the Army. I crossed a picket line with a 2X4 in my hand.

The Silky Pony can kiss my hairy white ass!

856 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:13:50pm

Edwards wants people to understand the importance of organized labor so he can sue the companies that they work for when he goes back to chasing ambulances

857 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:13:58pm

Biden yells over Keith Olbermann that he's picketed even more lines than Edwards.

858 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:14:02pm
859 Q-Burn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:14:09pm

re: #850 WrathofG-d

msnbc.com

860 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:14:43pm

My God, is it ever evident why some of these raw audience members don't have jobs involving public speaking of any kind.

861 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:14:44pm

Who set up the sound system in this place? Oh , wait ,, I'll bet it was UNION members !

862 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:15:29pm

Move over, Julia Child. The Kid ate the entire bowl of my home-made mac-and-cheese.

Now, off to clean the kitchen.

863 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:15:40pm

Keith Olberman is such a tool

864 FrogMarch  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:16:07pm

re: #816 squarepeg

re: #804 FrogMarch

Steve Green is drunk-blogging the debates

I'm sober, and I'm going away with my tail between my legs.

eeeek the modern democrats are freaks:

6:17pm

“Medicare for all!” “Not for profit!” First, make hospitals like the DMV. Second, strangle the supply of doctors and nurses. If there’s a third step, Kucinich was too smart to mention it, and I’m too scared to think of it.
865 daughter of patriots  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:16:09pm

re: #817 Thanos

Inside the area known as Biblical Shechem are the remains of a defensive wall, a 3,600-year-old Hyksos temple and Joseph’s Tomb. During an outbreak of violence in October 2000, Palestinian rioters destroyed Joseph’s Tomb and were reportedly building a mosque on the site.

Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot.

866 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:16:16pm

darn, Hillarys' not showing cleavage tonight !

867 Q-Burn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:16:29pm

These people don't like Hillary much.

868 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:16:37pm
869 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:16:46pm

re: #859 Q-Burn


Excellent. THANK YOU so much!

870 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:16:48pm

Hillary gets a question on No Child Left Behind, prefers to answer a question about how supportive she is of labor.

NCLB is a terrible imposition on teachers and school districts because there isn't enough money.

871 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:16:54pm

sHillary is getting shouted down by the audience. How amusing.

872 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:17:00pm

THANK GOD for commercials!

873 JCM  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:17:16pm

re: #862 MandyManners

Move over, Julia Child. The Kid ate the entire bowl of my home-made mac-and-cheese.

Now, off to clean the kitchen.

Start with th ceiling and work down.

874 Ma Sands  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:17:37pm

re: #853 squarepeg

I was a scab.
Way back when.
Only seven cabbies left driving in the city....and I was one, and a girl who didn't even come up to my shoulder, was one --and she carried a sawed-off shotgun under her front seat.... :)
That was long before the Somalians flooded the business....

I believed I worked for the president of the company, and couldn't walk off on him....

875 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:17:55pm

COMMERCIAL BREAK! If I can guzzle fast enough, I'll be drunk-blogging on the other side --

876 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:18:10pm

HEY Q BURN:

If you have MSNBC on....turn your speakers up LOUD between segments.

YOU CAN hear people speaking.....what are they saying?

877 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:18:27pm

I just cannot bear watching these losers.

I prefer to watch the Yankees slap around the Bluejays.

878 Salem  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:18:32pm

What channel is the debate on?

879 Ma Sands  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:18:56pm

re: #862 MandyManners

Good cook you are............can I come over sometime? :)

880 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:18:57pm

#874 Ma Sands

They can call us Scabs. I prefer to think of us as Survivors and Americans.

881 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:19:02pm

Geeezzz ,, even the COMMMERCIALS are "green"

882 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:19:21pm

re: #878 Salem

MSNBC

883 FrogMarch  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:19:25pm

Speaking of Labor Unions, this is rather funny:

[Link: louminatti.blogspot.com...]

Blogging is an extraordinarily simple hobby and there are very few real bloggers who make money at it. A subset of those bloggers who do make money are able to make a living from it. Blogging isn't a profession.

"Collective bargaining"? Please. For bloggers in it to make a buck, The Man are the advertisers. Are these bloggers going to strike against advertisers? Good luck with that, geniuses.

884 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:19:57pm

re: #878 Salem

What channel is the debate on?

PMS/NBC

885 jelo  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:20:00pm

Currently the largest threat to the unions is open borders. Unions and Democrats = oxy-"morons"

886 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:20:36pm
887 Ma Sands  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:20:56pm

re: #880 BulgarWheat

:) And all-around good people, right?

888 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:20:59pm
889 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:21:05pm

"limit your responses to 30 seconds"

HELL ,,,, non of these dolts can say ANYTHING in under 30 seconds

890 Salem  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:21:15pm

O cripes. Olbermann?

The candidates are bad enough...

891 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:21:26pm

Bill Richardson, "My VP would be my bitch"

when told of this the contingent from New York promptly fined Richardson.

892 Prisoner of Diesel  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:21:41pm

re: #638 Bobblehead

re: #605 NoSubmission

OK.... I get the rising sun Hiroshima connection but damned if I can figure how the star of David relates to Nagasaki..Maybe because so many of the first nuclear scientists were Jewish? In other words if it weren't for the Joos there would have been no atomic bombs and there would be peace on earth for ever and ever.

/Moonbat logic

I work on machinery, and took a different take on the picture. I saw an emergency stop button above the Star of David, rather than a red sun. I understood it to say, Stop the Jews, they caused Nagasaki and Hiroshima. I have no idea of the number of thousands of tokes on the ol' hookah pipe it takes to get to this level of derangement.

893 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:22:04pm

oh goody, they get another five minutes.

Now 30 seconds each:

Richardson's VP job description: Not Dick Cheney.

Hillary told to defend her defense of lobbyists. soft shoe, soft shoe, cheney rove, no-bid contracts (hey! Bill gave them to Halliburton!), soft shoe, soft shoe, soft shoe, soft shoe, anti-special interests, anti big pharma, anti banks, soft shoe, over the clock, soft shoe, we're done.

894 JCM  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:22:06pm

re: #882 WrathofG-d

re: #878 Salem

MSNBC

What's that? I got a 13" with rabbit ears.

895 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:22:28pm

#887 Ma Sands

I quit smoking a couple days ago. Today I'm a complete a@@hole!

896 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:22:57pm

Obama doesn't take PAC money and has no registered lobbyists workign for him. he's in public life (and marches on picket lines!) becuase of YOU, not because of folks who are writing big checks!

897 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:23:33pm

EDWRADS

Crooked trial lawyers are WAY different than crooked LOBBYISTS !

898 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:23:36pm

re: #757 BulgarWheat

Really? What week are you on?

899 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:23:40pm

Edwards says trial lawyers (who are contributing to his campaign in droves) are different from lobbyists because . . . they're spelled differently.

900 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:24:02pm

#896 squarepeg

I think that Barrack Hussein Obama may be speaking out of the side of his mouth.

901 JCM  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:24:15pm

re: #895 BulgarWheat

#887 Ma Sands

I quit smoking a couple days ago. Today I'm a complete a@@hole!

That's been going around....
The quitting part that is.

902 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:24:59pm

Senator Biden, would you ever appoint a rpublican to Homeland Security or the Pentagon?

soft shoe shoft shoe soft shoe soft shoe consensus, I HAVE EXPERIENCE REACHIGN ACROSS THE AISLE everything but foreign policy, healthcare, unions, soft shoe

903 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:25:07pm

so much for that lil 30 second clock on the screen !

904 paxnhymn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:25:09pm

re: #819 WrathofG-d

Obama is going to be our next President.

yeah, and I'm gonna be the Secretary of State.


/

905 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:25:15pm

#898 Killgore Trout

Week 1 on Chantix, day 2 on smoking.

I need to go back outside and throw some rocks at harmless squirrels now.

906 Ma Sands  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:25:44pm

re: #895 BulgarWheat

Well, you are in the same boat as what BabbaZee and realwest say they are feeling like.......I feel bad for you all.....and so glad you are trying to do such, however! :) Proud of ya.

Will be prayin', too.

907 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:25:51pm

Dodd defends unions! at the AFL-CIO presidential forum, no less. The question was about terrorism, however.

908 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:26:38pm

Democrats debate infrastructure needsSix days ago, these schmucks didn't give a fat rat's ass about infrastructure.

Opportunistic assholes.

909 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:26:52pm

re: #904 paxnhymn

re: #819 WrathofG-d


Obama is going to be our next President.

yeah, and I'm gonna be the Secretary of State.


/


Congratulations.

Ok so what I dont' get is what the diff is between "lobby groups" and "unions".

They are both organizations that have leaders that rep a bunch of people, and use a large # of members as a threat.

Unions = Lobbies

910 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:27:05pm

Kucinich, what have you accomplished since the mid-term elections?

soft shoe HEALTHCARE soft shoe I HAVE A BILL ABOUT HEALTHCARE soft shoe I HAVE A BILL ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE soft shoe I'M LOBBING CONGRESS soft shoe I DO A LOT OF SOFT SHOE FOR EVERYTHING

911 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:27:23pm

re: #527 buzzsawmonkey

A good first step to reforming islam would be for them to utterly and completely reject the hadith and sunnah as hearsay and falsehoods. Many hadith are nothing more than edicts from the caliph of the day to manipulate the masses against the rivals of said caliph. That would wipe out a lot of islamic law. It would, however, leave koranic law, which, as I quoted, is incorruptible and therefore could not be reformed.

912 Q-Burn  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:27:24pm

re: #876 WrathofG-d

I've been watching on cable- can't get the video to roll online. No doubt an evil Bill Gates conspiracy against my Mac.

913 BulgarWheat  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:27:24pm

#906 Ma Sands

Thanks for the kind words. Hearing that does make a difference. Prayers are powerful.

Guess I got through another day. Not much more I can say but thank you!

914 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:27:26pm

re: #878 Salem

MSNBC
You have to use ie

915 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:27:28pm

Kucinich

"" I have a bill ,,, I have a bill,, I have a bill,.."

PAY ONE OF THEM ! Thats why when you were a mayor your city went Bankrupt ,,,,, you didn't pay any of your BILLS !

916 Wishing  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:27:31pm

Ha! that shock troops crap was just that: crap!

917 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:28:07pm

Obama, would you honor Barry Bonds at the White House?

soft shoe soft shoe soft shoe soft shoe soft shoe soft shoe soft shoe we have enough cynicism in politics without having cynicism about sports.

fails to answer question

918 Wishing  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:28:40pm

I wonder if TNR will dry up and blow away now?

919 Lee Coller  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:28:50pm

Did Kucinich mention his "Department of Peace"?

920 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:28:51pm

What would Hillary do about New Orleans? Put someone in charge who would follow her 10-point plan!

That person of course would report to the president.

921 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:29:13pm

Hillary is offering to put her butt against the New Orleans levies to shore them up! Admirable !

922 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:29:24pm

re: #905 BulgarWheat

I've had some urges, I even got in the car and drove halfway to the cigarette store. But none have been that extreme. Hang in there.

923 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:29:25pm
924 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:29:31pm

Senator Clinton, THANK YOU!

Senator Biden would pledge to stop no-bid contracts.

LIKE BILL CLINTON'S FOR HALLIBURTON?! ELEPHANT IN DRAWING ROOM!

925 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:29:40pm

re: #919 Lee Coller

Did Kucinich mention his "Department of Peace"?

Not yet, he's saving that for his Big Finish !

926 Wishing  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:30:09pm

Can anyone press charges against TNR or will they just get away with it?

927 FrogMarch  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:30:25pm

6:29pm

Edwards says, “Lawyers are better than lobbyists!” Yes, and ebola will kill you faster than AIDS. Small comfort, I suppose.
928 squarepeg  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:30:27pm

Richardson was asked a question. There's so much soft shoe I can't tell what it was, sorry. But he says he does have power and would be the best president.

929 JCM  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:30:33pm

re: #915 sattv4u2

Kucinich

"" I have a bill ,,, I have a bill,, I have a bill,.."

PAY ONE OF THEM ! Thats why when you were a mayor your city went Bankrupt ,,,,, you didn't pay any of your BILLS !

Can I send him my bills?

930 WrathofG-d  Tue, Aug 7, 2007 5:30:40pm