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Video: Islamist Mob Attacks Bangladeshi Writer

Thu, Aug 9, 2007 at 5:06:27 pm PDT

Bangladeshi writer and women’s rights activist Tasleema Nasreen was in Hyderabad to promote a new book when she was attacked—by a mob led by elected Islamist members of the Indian Senate. Hindu journalists formed a protective ring around her and she was able to escape unharmed; here’s video of the attack from IBN Live.

FLV Movie

NDTV.com: Taslima Nasreen attacked in Hyderabad.

Controversial writer Taslima Nasreen was attacked by an unruly crowd at the Hyderabad Press club on Thursday.

Three MLAs of the All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen or MIM were among those who attacked her. They verbally abused the writer and flung whatever they could lay their hands on at her for her alleged anti-muslim remarks.

The MLAs were detained after the incident.

The Bangladesh born writer was there for the release of the telugu version of her book Sokhe at the press club when some 30 activists first raised slogans against her for alleged anti-Muslim remarks and then got rough.

”We are not bothered about our MLA status. We are Muslims first. And its our responsibility to test those who have said anything against Islam in which ever way possible,” said Akbaruddin Owaisi, MIM MLA.

Taslima Nasreen who escaped unhurt, said she was in a state of shock.

(Hat tip: LGF readers.)

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1 YourTaxDollarsAtWork  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:07:40pm

They're car-swarming people now?

2 stuck in california  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:08:10pm

Taslima Nasreen who escaped unhurt, said she was in a state of shock.

3 stuck in california  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:08:34pm

Why?

4 stuck in california  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:09:01pm

Dang buttons....

5 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:10:37pm

"They verbally abused the writer and flung whatever they could lay their hands on at her for her alleged anti-muslim remarks."

I look at the remarks as shining a light on what the death cult believes..not really anti muslim...semantics..semantics...

6 Chotii  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:16:04pm

The only phrase that bears repeating in the article is this:

"We are Muslims first."

That justifies everything that comes after.

7 NiceLass  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:17:41pm

Muslims first = Rational last.

8 Capt_Faust  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:17:58pm

These guys are crazy...

”We are not bothered about our MLA status. We are Muslims first. And its our responsibility to test those who have said anything against Islam in which ever way possible,”

Ummmmm....

Am I allowed to make a link from isLAm to violence yet?

/ Waiting for the Leftists to scream "racism" at me in (even thought islam is not a race)
3...
2...
1...

9 msdixie  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:18:02pm

Looking like a dodo bird, but what is this 'plug-in' business? Why can't I see the video as usual?

They hate Taslima. She's a woman an inferior being and an apostate, daring to question the perfect society of the perfect religion of the perfect god. How dare she! And she's admired by the western sociology pc. They hate her and will send out jihadis to kill her 'cause that's the way they are. That's the way mohammed was. And that's how its done.

If she's shocked, she's either in deep denial or lying through her teeth.

10 Ma Sands  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:18:17pm

re: #6 Chotii

Yes.


):

11 FQ Kafir  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:18:34pm

The thin-skinned, unimaginative throwbacks of Islam will react like this every time.

12 NiceLass  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:19:55pm
The MLAs were detained after the incident.

Hopefully they'll throw the book at them...as long as it's not a Koran, of course.

13 Capt_Faust  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:20:08pm

No no no sheeple....nothing to see here....

Go back and look up Britney Spears on youtube....

Go back to sleep....

Don't form educated opinions from continuous examples of hatred all in the name of a religion *cough...isLAm...cough*...

Just go back to sleep....

14 pat  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:20:09pm

Violent loons. They revel in blood in pain. Shallow, stupid savages.

15 WimbledonWomble  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:20:16pm

I don't get it. Why would anyone from the Religion of Peace want to attack anyone?

16 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:20:34pm

I invite her to America.

17 bluegrass boy  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:20:37pm

i think yall are over reacting about this,.....muslims are peace loving folks,....just like you and me......

18 Old Grouch  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:20:48pm

Anybody know what the "MLA" acronym means? (Figured out "MIM," but the article doesn't say.

19 grumpy old codger  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:20:59pm

The way things are, I think that if i took a deep breath, these bozos would construe it as an insult to islam.
"Abdul, that dhimmi just took a deep breath."
"By the beard of the prophet, dhimmi breathing is an affront to islam."
"You're right. cut his head off."

20 grumpy old codger  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:21:41pm

re: #18 Old Grouch

Molsems Loving anarchy.

21 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:21:46pm
22 Ma Sands  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:22:27pm

One thing I noticed --the Muslims kept looking around to make sure the other Muslims were in approval of what they were doing.........each does not take responsibility for his own thoughts, words, and actions.......Muslim is a mob.

23 bluegrass boy  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:22:42pm

re: #19 grumpy old codger

actually,...we are all an insult to islam, that is if you are like me and think that mohamed is stans right hand guy...

24 doppelganglander  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:22:44pm
”We are not bothered about our MLA status. We are Muslims first.

And this, boys and girls, is why Islamism is incompatible with democracy.

25 NiceLass  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:24:30pm

re: #9 msdixie


If she's shocked, she's either in deep denial or lying through her teeth.

It is kind of shocking, though. Shocking that the people of India are willing to tolerate this, that the UN doesn't at least send a strongly worded letter, that organizations like NOW remains silent in the face of Islam's treatment of women, that liberals worldwide look the other way when true freedom of speech is attacked...

that's what's shocking.

26 Happy4LA  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:25:03pm

Cliché or quiz time,
Which religion calls itself the "religion of peace"?

I don't think the word "peace" means what you think it does.

Luckily the man with the pink shirt was wearing pink.

Were these "protestors" "moderate" Muslims?

If these "protestors" were white would there be a story?

I guess we can't all just get along.

27 Catttt  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:25:22pm

No-neck monsters. Sorry - but that phrase from Cat on a Hot Tin Roof just seems to fit perfectly. I have to credit the guys who stood in front of her and protected her. They didn't look like fighters, but they protected her from a bunch of loonies who could have gone totally postal on her.

How weird is it, too, that the reporters at an event have to step up to protect someone from elected officials?

Anyway, I'm glad she was unharmed.

28 TS  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:25:49pm

Just imagine what those disgusting Muslims in this video would have done to her if they could have gotten their hands on her and had free reign. She would be laying dead, beaten to a pulp and stripped naked.

But she will not lay down and die and be quiet. Thank goodness she has been protected from these barbarians. She is another courageous woman who is willing to tell the truth about Islam. More power to her!

29 WimbledonWomble  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:26:01pm

re: #22 Ma Sands

One thing I noticed --the Muslims kept looking around to make sure the other Muslims were in approval of what they were doing.........each does not take responsibility for his own thoughts, words, and actions.......Muslim is a mob.

CAIR does not distinguish between Islamophobia and Muslimomobophobia.

30 Ma Sands  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:26:07pm
re: #24 doppelganglander

And this...is why Islamism is incompatible with democracy life.

Is that better....?

31 Capt_Faust  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:26:09pm

Seems to be a bit of mob like mentality...

or they are all chickens*&ts....

Much like those self proclaimed anarchists at the anti-war rallies...they never act until everyone of them moves in unison...until then, they just look around at each other like scared first graders...

Then a policeman on a Harley shows up blaring his siren, and all those proud anarchists (with matching red/black outfits....don't ask why they match...) run off in all directions...like scared little first graders...

32 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:26:13pm
33 Highrise  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:26:21pm

I think there also may be a difference between being in a state of shock..vs. being shocked it happened.

I doubt she is shocked it happened..but I'm sure she was very shaken up and in a state of shock.

I came close to a near death experience in a car accident and whoa......slow motion, not being able to talk, just staring into space....weird feeling.

34 Liege  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:26:29pm

Does MLA stand for Muslims Laughing At us?

35 Manfred the Wonder Dog  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:26:30pm

I'm drawing a blank, too. whatsa MLA?

36 Capt_Faust  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:27:38pm

re: #27 Catttt
How weird is it, too, that the reporters at an event have to step up to protect someone from elected officials?

I think that phrase says it all in this case...

37 pat  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:29:27pm

#21 ploome hineni
LOL That was great....but bizzare.
I wonder if the Ruskies know that the old refrain they use was likely a viking working chant.
I have bookmarked it for Trigger Girlie.

38 NiceLass  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:29:44pm

re: #24 doppelganglander

And this, boys and girls, is why Islamism is incompatible with democracy.

Or sanity.

39 ZionistYoungster  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:31:45pm

re: #24 doppelganglander

"We are not bothered about our MLA status. We are Muslims first."

And this, boys and girls, is why Islamism is incompatible with democracy.

Yes. Though I have to ask: since they said, "We are Muslims first" (emph. mine), why do you say, "Islamism is incompatible with democracy" (emph. mine again)? If they'd said, "We're Islamists first", then I'd understand.

Islam is incompatible with democracy.

Yeah, I know this is a quibble. But I've grown to detest the term, "Islamism", because it is cut from the idea that a bunch of bad guys hijacked an essentially peaceful religion. I find evidence of that proposition lacking (to put it very gently).

40 Outrider  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:31:54pm
”We are not bothered about our MLA status. We are Muslims first. And its our responsibility to test those who have said anything against Islam in which ever way possible,” said Akbaruddin Owaisi, MIM MLA.


This should serve as an example to every country that has Muslims serving in elected (or otherwise) positions. Ellison to name one for example?

41 MadJadBad  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:32:00pm

Don't they have laws against assault in India? It's all on video. Seems like an open and shut case.

42 Fjordman  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:32:06pm

Charles, in case you haven't seen this:

Anti-Sharia Rally banned in Brussels

The Brussels mayor, the Socialist Freddy Thielemans, has, a short time ago, sent out a press release in which he has banned the demonstration on the 11th sept. The reason for the prohibition is that he says he cannot guarantee public safety and that he won’t disturb the Islamic section of the population in Brussels.

43 ZionistYoungster  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:33:07pm

Sorry to leave the thread so soon, but it's late in my timezone, and I gotta hit the hay. 'Night, lizards!

44 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:34:11pm
45 WimbledonWomble  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:34:26pm

re: #41 MadJadBad

Don't they have laws against assault in India? It's all on video. Seems like an open and shut case.

That wasn't assault. It was just Islamists expressing their religion.

46 Thanos  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:34:49pm

Night ZionistYoungster

MIM looks like India's MMA, which in Pakistan is really the political wing of the Taliban. Indian authorities need to keep close watch on the ones in the video.

47 Charles  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:34:52pm

I believe 'MLA' stands for Member of Legislative Assembly.

48 Old Grouch  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:35:11pm

Okay, Googling around gets me: "MLA" probably = "Member Legislative Assembly"

Legislative Assembly = state-level representative body

49 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:35:18pm
50 WrathofG-d  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:35:40pm

MWA?

51 Old Grouch  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:35:44pm

Dang... 20 seconds!

52 NiceLass  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:36:44pm

re: #42 Fjordman

The reason for the prohibition is that he says he cannot guarantee public safety and that he won’t disturb the Islamic section of the population in Brussels.

It would be too "offensive," I suppose. There are people on both sides of the aisle who use that excuse.

AHEM

53 sloggin420[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:37:05pm
54 msdixie  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:37:22pm

Ok, the video came up and was it a doozie. It's only a few like this or something to that effect she says. Stupid woman, a few is plenty when you're being attacked.

Mohammedan women are the strangest, bred and taught to be only breeders, beaten by sacred decree, inequal for eternity with men. But they seem to love it and ask for what Taslima is getting. And she knows this is what she'll get, it's all in the mohammedan trilogy, it's all there
and she knows it so you go for it girl. I feel sorry for you.

55 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:37:46pm
56 nyc redneck  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:37:58pm

re: #22 Ma Sands

One thing I noticed --the Muslims kept looking around to make sure the other Muslims were in approval of what they were doing.........each does not take responsibility for his own thoughts, words, and actions.......Muslim is a mob.

muslim is a MOB.

57 grumpy old codger  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:40:01pm

re: #42 Fjordman

FLASH out of Mecca via Reuters:

Islam has banned Belgium!

58 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:41:28pm
59 Thanos  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:42:08pm

The Magic Kingdom and Neigbhors get ready for the Hajj :

Saudi police detain 135

RIYADH: Saudi police this week detained 135 suspected sympathisers of Islamist militants in the holy city of Mecca, a Saudi newspaper said on Thursday. The men of different nationalities were picked up in a security sweep of the city, the semi-official al-Riyadh daily said. Investigations were under way to establish if they had any links to wanted militants, it said.

Bahrain detains extremists: Bahraini authorities have detained a number of people belonging to a militant Sunni Islamic group as part of anti-terrorism measures. agencies

60 whiterasta  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:43:17pm

The religion of peace and tolerance shows it's true colors...

61 WrathofG-d  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:44:47pm

Ok ok ok ok ok.....BUT lets talk about the Apartheid, racism, murder, fascims of the U.S. and Israel...

We must get to the root causes of this....

/LLL, I.A. (Islamist Appologist)

62 Cicero05  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:44:47pm

"Anti-muslim remarks"?

What could muslims have possibly done to be the target of unflattering remarks?

63 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:45:24pm

From my link about this around noon.

HYDERABAD, India (AFP) - Muslim activists attacked controversial and self-exiled Bangladeshi author Taslima Nasreen at a book launch in southern India, police and witnesses said.

Nasreen was on the stage at the press club in Hyderabad, capital of Andhra Pradesh state, when about 60 protesters from a regional Muslim political party forced their way in.

The Majlis-e-Ittehadul-Muslimeen activists, led by three state legislators, broke up the function, police said.

Television footage showed activists hitting Nasreen with a bunch of flowers, throwing a satchel at her and threatening to lob chairs.

Activists also snatched copies of her translated book lying on a table and threw them at her, witnesses said.

A visibly shaken Nasreen was shielded by several organisers and escaped when police arrived and bundled her into a car, witnesses said. They reported slight bruising.

One of the men protecting Nasreen sustained injuries, police and witnesses said.

The Bangladeshi author has been living in India since fleeing her homeland in 1994 after radical Muslims decried her writings as blasphemous and demanded her execution.

The activists shouted slogans against Nasreen, condemning her for allegedly un-Islamic writing, as they overturned chairs and broke flower pots and vases at the venue, witnesses said.

Salauddin Owaisi, president of the Majlis-e-Ittehadul-Muslimeen party, defended the attack, saying "all Muslims in Hyderabad will praise our party for this."

"You cannot write anything just to gain cheap popularity and fame. You need to respect the sentiments of people," Owaisi told India's Headlines news channel.

The Majlis-e-Ittehadul-Muslimeen party is aligned with India's ruling Congress party.

Nasreen's novel "Lajja" or "Shame," depicting the life of a Hindu family facing the ire of Muslims in Bangladesh, has incensed conservative Muslims. The book is banned in Muslim-majority Bangladesh.

In March, an Indian Muslim group from northern Uttar Pradesh state offered a 500,000 rupee (11,319 dollar) bounty for Nasreen's execution.

Some 38 percent of Hyderabad's 6.5 million population are Muslim.

64 WimbledonWomble  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:45:58pm

re: #50 WrathofG-d

MWA?

"Muslims With Attitude," a Franco-Algerian hip hop group. Controversial because of the lyrics of their song "Kafir Killer," they nonetheless enjoy a following among Muslim youths and non-Muslim youths embracing Jihadi chic to be cool and fit in socially. One of their founding members, Eid Crude, went on to a successful film and directing career.

65 Resistance Girl  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:46:22pm

re: #21 ploome hineni

MUST SEE!

Leningrad Cowboys & Red Army Choir - SWEET HOME ALABAMA

I have playing and replaying that!

Sent it to a few folks as well.

66 doppelganglander  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:47:56pm

re: #30 Ma Sands

Good answer. I would also have accepted "civilization."

67 baconeatingkaffir  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:48:23pm

I love it when females expose the male dominated woman-hating religion for what it is. It's sad that more of them don't. I think we'll see more criticisms of the religion of peas by women who are born into this so-called "society".

68 abu_garcia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:48:26pm
its our responsibility to test those who have said anything against Islam in which ever way possible

Translation: "can't stand them uppity wimmen"

69 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:48:54pm

EVENTUALLY -

Their WOMEN will set all them'all FREE. I only hope I live long enough to see it. All y'all MUSLIM WOMEN - LYSISTRADA!

-S-

70 baconeatingkaffir  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:49:18pm

Im still trying to figure out why khadaffi duck has all women bodyguards. Are they protecting him or changing his adult diapers?

71 WimbledonWomble  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:49:29pm

Breaking News: All religions but Islam have been banned from Mecca. Oh, sorry, that was breaking news in the 7th century.

72 stevieray  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:49:58pm

re: #64 WimbledonWomble

Hehe

73 nyc redneck  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:50:09pm

re: #58 buzzsawmonkey

it used to be a hindu country.

74 bluegrass boy  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:50:26pm

re: #65 Resistance Girl

those are some cool elf shoes old boy is sportin....

75 WrathofG-d  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:51:14pm

re: #64 WimbledonWomble

LOL.

Straight outta Mecca......

76 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:51:37pm
77 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:51:42pm

re: #71 WimbledonWomble

"Wim" -

ROTFLMAO!

-S-

78 whiterasta  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:52:53pm

re: #65 Resistance Girl

That was just wonderful! Thanks.

79 jcm  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:53:55pm

re: #70 baconeatingkaffir

Im still trying to figure out why khadaffi duck has all women bodyguards. Are they protecting him or changing his adult diapers?

Clinton was envious.

80 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:54:28pm

re: #73 nyc redneck

"Red" -

Still is except they've been politically correct for 50-60 years. Wonder what would happen though if you got them PISSED OFF ENOUGH?

-S-

81 baconeatingkaffir  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:55:30pm

re: #79 jcm

re: #70 baconeatingkaffir


Im still trying to figure out why khadaffi duck has all women bodyguards. Are they protecting him or changing his adult diapers?

Clinton was envious.


Weren't there some accusations from some of the female aircrew (aka "cabincrew") active duty AF of inappropriate behavior on the part of the philanderer-in-chief?

82 WrathofG-d  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:56:24pm

re: #81 baconeatingkaffir


Yes. Clinton liked to touch the AF cabin crew

83 jcm  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:56:52pm

re: #21 ploome hineni

MUST SEE!

Leningrad Cowboys & Red Army Choir - SWEET HOME ALABAMA

The mind wobbles.

Talk about cognitive dissonance, this cold war baby just can't handle it.

84 pat  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:57:09pm

#55 ploome hineni
Not really, American Mongrel. Family settled here 1639 on fathers side, 1680 or so on mothers with tons of mixing since then.

85 Luigi  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:57:31pm
Hindu journalists formed a protective ring around her


Good thing she wasn't in New York. The reporters would have thrown her to the mob. Gladly.

86 whiterasta  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:57:40pm

And here is one for you:

Common Disaster: Cowboy Junkies.

Whiterasta whoring for his favorite band....

87 nyc redneck  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 5:58:40pm

re: #80 Dr. Shalit

pissed who off enough, dr. s?

88 pat  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:00:44pm

Ploome, but I did take Modern and Ancient European History. Yes I know of the Rus, and that Russia was once ruled thru Lithuania. Then the Climate Optimum allowed interior settlement. (900-1350)

89 bosforus  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:01:40pm

re: #64 WimbledonWomble

jihad the police

90 pat  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:02:00pm

Do they have any idea what they are singing? I love the smiles on some of the choir.

91 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:02:24pm
"Nature says women are human beings, men have made religions to deny it. Nature says women are human beings, men cry out NO!"


[Link: taslimanasrin.com...]

92 marwan's daughter  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:03:37pm

She was lucky this time. She may not be the next time. And she has had to live with this crap since 1994.

93 jim in virginia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:05:53pm

Oh frabjous joy. Debka: New al Qaeda threat of radioactive truck bombs in NYC, Miami, LA.
The kicker: it's because we didn't take Adam Gadahn's recent video seriously.
ROTFLMAO.

94 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:07:37pm

"To me, this conflict is basically between modern, rational, logical thinking and irrational, blind faith. To me, this is a conflict between modernity and anti-modernism. While some strive to go forward, others strive to go backward. It is a conflict between the future and the past, between innovation and tradition, between those who value freedom and those who do not." - Tasleema Nasreen

And for stating such things, Muslims attack her. Piss on them.

95 lawhawk  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:07:54pm

re: #93 jim in virginia

48 hour rule in effect? /Debka requires twice the usual level of skepticism

96 Thanos  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:10:08pm

re: #95 lawhawk

re: #93 jim in virginia

48 hour rule in effect? /Debka requires twice the usual level of skepticism

/agrees with Lawhawk

97 Thanos  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:10:43pm

Here's the Pak Daily Times write up on the Incident:

HYDERABAD: Muslim activists on Thursday attacked controversial and self-exiled Bangladeshi author Taslima Nasreen at a book launch in southern India, police and witnesses said.

Nasreen was on the stage at the press club in Hyderabad, capital of Andhra Pradesh state, when about 60 protesters from a regional Muslim political party forced their way in.

The Majlis-e-Ittehadul-Muslimeen activists, led by three state legislators, broke up the function, police said.

Television footage showed activists hitting Nasreen with a bunch of flowers, throwing a satchel at her and threatening to lob chairs. Activists also snatched copies of her translated book lying on a table and threw them at her, witnesses said.

A visibly shaken Nasreen was shielded by several organisers and escaped when police arrived and bundled her into a car, witnesses said. They reported slight bruising.

One of the men protecting Nasreen sustained injuries, police and witnesses said. The Bangladeshi author has been living in India since fleeing her homeland in 1994 after radical Muslims decried her writings as blasphemous and demanded her execution.

The activists shouted slogans against Nasreen, condemning her for allegedly un-Islamic writing, as they overturned chairs and broke flowerpots and vases at the venue, witnesses said.

Salauddin Owaisi, president of the Majlis-e-Ittehadul-Muslimeen party, defended the attack, saying “all Muslims in Hyderabad will praise our party for this.”

“You cannot write anything just to gain cheap popularity and fame. You need to respect the sentiments of people,” Owaisi told India’s Headlines news channel. The Majlis-e-Ittehadul-Muslimeen party is aligned with India’s ruling Congress party.

Nasreen’s novel ‘Lajja’ or ‘Shame,’ depicting the life of a Hindu family facing the ire of Muslims in Bangladesh, has incensed many Muslims. The book is banned in Bangladesh.

In March, an Indian Muslim group from northern Uttar Pradesh state offered a 500, 000 rupee bounty for Nasreen’s execution. Around 38 percent of Hyderabad’s 6.5 million population are Muslim. afp

98 Gordan the Fisherman  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:10:48pm

Savages...as usual.

99 Jimash  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:11:25pm

A thousand years of darkness coming on as we watch.
Can't live with 'em, can't just kill them all.
This sucks.

100 solomonpanting  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:12:35pm

MLA---

My Little Allah

101 republic  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:13:34pm

And people expected anything less from the religion of beat your woman until death?

102 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:16:30pm

The most fabulously gay Democratic debate ever....
The visablevote (Live feed)

Tastefully decorated, of course.

103 threecoloursblue  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:16:48pm

re: #76 buzzsawmonkey

Bangladesh is a muslim majority portion of a much larger area known as Bengal. It's got a complicated history, but the muslims are basically converts from low caste hinduism.
They first tried to escape castism by converting to buddhism, but when crafty hindus came up with the scam that the Buddha was actually the ninth avatar of Vishnu, they reverted to being low caste again.
They were brutalised by (west) pakastani pathans in the war of the early 70's. They-the bangladeshi- muslims are less prone to extremism that other muslims in the sub-continent.

104 BeerForMyHorses  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:16:48pm

re: #95 lawhawk

re: #93 jim in virginia

48 hour rule in effect? /Debka requires twice the usual level of skepticism

Has anyone here read The Day of Islam by Paul Williams? Chilling stuff.

105 jim in virginia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:21:15pm

re: #95 lawhawk

re: #93 jim in virginia

48 hour rule in effect? /Debka requires twice the usual level of skepticism

Certainly. Take with a couple pounds of salt.

106 duck  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:21:29pm

There you have it.....they are muslims first........British second, Indian second, German second, French second and no doubt Americans second. Just waiting for the Sharia call. Why do we put up with these people?

107 EE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:21:55pm

One way to look at what happened here, with the attack by Islamists against the Muslima writer and women's rights activist Taslima Nasreen, and her defense by Hindu gentlemen, is that it is part of an attack against civilization by the modern equivalent of "predators from the desert".

Salim Mansur, a Canadian professor of the Muslim faith, has written an interesting article in which the model for the assaults that the Islamists have been making, against all civilized people including Muslims who are civilized, is to liken it to the desert predators who long ago would attack settled communities and create mayhem and worse.

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

He credits the inspiration for this idea to the writings of Ibn Khaldun.

In our contemporary War on Terror, there is a tragic absence of an Arab-Muslim voice that crystallizes the urgency to fight the jihadis and that separates Islam from the perverted agenda of terrorism. That is why the words of a medieval scholar, Ibn Khaldun, can serve as an essential guide to our understanding of the present conflict -- and arm us with the vital ideological weapons we need to defeat Islamist terrorism.

You may want to read his interesting article about the approach taken by Ibn Khaldun, and his insights into the threat to civilization.

It may be that what Prof. Salim Mansur has written can also be extended to lesser confrontations than the confrontation with jihadi terrorism. Perhaps this attack on the women's rights author Taslima Nasreen (who is a Muslima) by Islamists, and her defense by Hindus, illustrates that this too represents the equivalent of the attack by the "predators of the desert" against civilization.


It isn't a war of civilizations when it's crazed Muslims against a civilized Muslim.
It isn't exactly "the bloody struggle for Islam's soul" (another phrase that Salim Mansur has used for his writing elsewhwere), because it also involves Hindus on the side of civilization in defense of this rights person, and nobody is actually trying to change Islam here, just to produce normal 21st century civilized behavior, that doesn't subjugate women.
It may just be that Salim Mansur's model -- after the model of Ibn Khaldun -- of predators from the desert attacking civilization -- may be a more satisfactory model for what we have here.

108 abu_garcia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:24:37pm

re: #99 Jimash

A thousand years of darkness coming on as we watch.

If there is darkness it will not be an Islamic darkness. We may not take care of them because of our leftists, but the Chinese will not fool around. Personally, I don't think the Chinese are interested in conquering the world, but they will not go gentle into the night and they will not be dominated by these savages.

109 republic  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:26:42pm

re: #102 Killgore Trout

The most fabulously gay Democratic debate ever....
The visablevote (Live feed)

Tastefully decorated, of course.

That sure isn't going to go over well with the 30 million male sexist, racist, homophobic Democrat voters.

110 Jimmah  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:26:55pm

re: #107 EE

Taslima Nasreen (who is a Muslima),

Taslima is ex-muslim, now atheist, I'm happy to report.

111 screaming_eagle  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:27:00pm

re: #108 abu_garcia

China may not want to totally conquer the world, but they want everything there way.

112 astronmr20  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:28:34pm

I just spent 2 weeks in Hyderabad. It's infested.

113 WimbledonWomble  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:29:36pm

Paul McCartney originally wrote the precursor to the Beatles' song "Get Back" as a protest against Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech. Now, though, there is a growing trade in "Enoch was right""Enoch was right" badges. Originally, put out by the far-right British National Party, this sentiment is growing well beyond the traditional far right. This is what multiculturalism without assimilation leads to: a shift of average people toward thinking that was originally marginalized as far right.

It's basic human psychology and shows how stupid the proponents of multiculturalism are. On the one hand, they allow the most nutty elements of protected groups free reign to expand their base, even when it is anti-multicultural and wants to impose a new homogeneous culture on the culture they are trying to displace. On the other hand, it alienates the people in the middle who were tolerant to begin with until they saw things getting out of hand and became radicalized. When pushed into a corner, being a "radical" reactionary becomes rational. It's happening in Europe and the US. A lot of the old assumptions of melting pot in the US are being questioned by people who used to be card-carrying liberals.

In India, despite the old historic hatred between Hindus and Muslims, they have made huge efforts to accommodate their huge Muslim population. But India should realize that if it doesn't curtail their extremists, even younger Hindus who grew up with the multicultural ethos will become radicalized and start to resent Muslims as their parents did or worse.

Present trends will lead to only two possible outcomes: Islamization or messy counter-reaction as large numbers of people feeling threatened seek to recover culture they grew up with. In seeking balance and multicultural harmony, and, above all, seeking not to anger Muslims (which is the unspoken truth behind a lot of liberal accommodation to Muslim demands in the West), the West is just sowing the seeds of far greater discord down the road.

It's all insane.

114 Killgore Trout  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:30:51pm

re: #109 republic

Edwards is on now, pretty funny.

115 abu_garcia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:31:32pm

re: #111 screaming_eagle

No argument from me there. I read and believe Derbyshire on the Chinese.

116 grumpy old codger  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:32:09pm

re: #108 abu_garcia
I agree re the Chinese. given the historical attitude of the Middle kingdom, I believe China would be happy to be dominant without necessarily occupying/crushing the gaijins, if tribute, obeisance, etc., was paid. If we would do what she wanted, I think they'd be happy. OTOH, if someone tried to screw them with this jihad shit, they would fall (they being either the Chinese or their appointed agents), as The Duke said in True Grit, "like a ton of brick".

117 republic  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:32:45pm

re: #114 Killgore Trout

re: #109 republic

Edwards is on now, pretty funny.

I admire that you have the stomach to watch the Democrats "debate".

118 SnakeSpit  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:33:15pm

re: #65 Resistance Girl
So who are these Leningrad cowboys? Are they really Russian? Are the guys in uniform actually soldiers. Forgive me for being so thick headed.

119 paxnhymn  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:35:18pm

"We are Muslims first. And its our responsibility to testkill those who have said anything against Islam in which ever way possible,”

Edited for correctness.

120 republic  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:36:47pm

re: #119 paxnhymn

"We are Muslims first. And its our responsibility to testkill those who have said anything against Islam in which ever way possible,”

Edited for correctness.

I have said many things against islam, when is it my turn for them to test me in every way possible?

Heh.

121 EE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:41:27pm

A brief biography of Taslima Nasreen:
[Link: taslimanasrin.com...]

122 paxnhymn  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:41:48pm

re: #120 republic
amen. I can't wait..

( lemmee see if i can get this plug outta this 12 guage.there.)

123 Chotii  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:42:28pm

re: #69 Dr. Shalit

EVENTUALLY -

Their WOMEN will set all them'all FREE. I only hope I live long enough to see it. All y'all MUSLIM WOMEN - LYSISTRATA!

-S-


You're assuming the women are voluntary participants in their sexual relations to begin with. And I've a pretty good idea that most of these women have never heard of Aristophanes, let alone the play Lysistrata

All the more reason to use my idea: airdrop millions of small, easily-hidden solar-powered radios with earbuds all over these regions. Then
broadcast all sorts of "subversive" (ie, roots of Western thought) programs, translated into local language. Broacast Plato, Aristophanes, William Shakespeare, Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Winston Churchill! Broadcast Poetry! Broadcast *anything* that isn't All Koran, All The Time. It doesn't even have to say "Islam is bad." Ideally, it wouldn't mention Islam at all. It would just by ANYTHING that opens their minds up, and lets it happen in such a way that it would be impossible for the governments to find every last radio.

People who live in the Islamic world cannot be expected to think about new things, when they're bombarded day in and day out with the same old things, surrounded all day every day with people who all believe, think, and talk the same as they do - when to have those thoughts might earn one punishment. Haven't we learned ANYTHING from Orwell's 1984? Haven't we learned anything from Farenheit 451?

The only thing that can really set these people free (but especially the women) is to be subverted by thoughts outside of Islam. And we could do it for a few million dollars....less than some of the pork projects our beloved lawmakers push through every month.

124 phillygirl  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:48:23pm

#21 ploome hineni

Thanks for introducing me to the Leningrad Cowboys. They are fantastic!

125 bofh  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:49:20pm

Not to minimize the incident...

But...

Man, they fight like a bunch of girly men.

126 odhran  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:53:30pm

Tough guys....

I'd like to take 'em out for a beer.

127 EE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:53:47pm

re #121


A BRIEF BIOGRAPHY

Taslima Nasreen was born in August 1962 in a Muslim family in Mymensingh, East Pakistan. Because the area became independent in 1971, her city of birth is now in the country called Bangladesh.

Growing up in a highly restrictive and conservative environment, Taslima was fond of literature while she also excelled in science. She started writing when she was 15 years old, beginning with poetry in literary magazines, and afterwards herself editing a literary periodical called SeNjuti (1978 - 1983). She was the president of a literary organization while in medical college, where she staged many cultural programs. Earning her medical degree in 1984, she worked in public hospitals for eight years.

Her first book of poetry was published in 1986. Her second became a huge success in 1989, and editors of progressive daily and weekly newspapers suggested that she write regular columns. Next she started writing about women's oppression. With no hesitation she criticized religion, traditions, and the oppressive cultures and customs that discriminate against women. Her strong language and uncompromising attitude against male domination stirred many people, eliciting both love and hatred from her readers.

In 1992 she received the prestigious literary award Ananda from West Bengal in India for her Nirbachito Kolam (Selected Columns), the first writer from Bangladesh to earn that award. Despite allegations of jealousy among other writers about this, the topmost intellectuals and writers continued to support her.

Islamic fundamentalists launched a campaign against her in 1990, staging street demonstrations and processions. They broke into newspaper offices that she used to regularly write from, sued her editors and publishers, and put her life in danger, a danger that only increased over time. She was publicly assaulted several times by fundamentalist mobs. No longer was she welcomed to any public places, not even to book fairs that she loved to visit. In 1993, a fundamentalist organization called Soldiers of Islam issued a fatwa against her, a price was set on her head because of her criticism of Islam, and she was confined to her house.

The government confiscated her passport and asked her to quit writing if she hoped to keep her job as a medical doctor in Dhaka Medical College Hospital.. She was thus forced to quit her job.

Inasmuch as she had become a best-selling author in Bangladesh and West Bengal in India, she managed to survive the hostility. The government, however, banned Lajja (Shame), in which she described the atrocities against Hindu minorities by Muslim fundamentalists, her main message being "Let humanism be the other name of religion."

According to Taslima, the religious scriptures are out of time, out of place. Instead of religious laws, she maintains, what is needed is a uniform civil code that accords women equality and justice. Her views caused fourteen different political and non-political religious organizations to unite for the first time, starting violent demonstrations, calling general strikes, blocking government offices, and demanding her immediate execution by hanging.

The government, instead of taking action against the fundamentalists, turned against her. A case was filed charging that she hurt people's religious feelings, and a non-bail-able arrest warrant was issued. Deeming prison to be an extremely unsafe place, Taslima went into hiding..

128 desertdweller  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:54:17pm

"Some radical Muslims hate Nasreen for saying Islam and other religions oppress women."

(from the Reuters article)

Some people have no clue how hypocrisy makes them look so bleeping foolish.

And to claim "We are Muslims first" make all Muslims look foolish by association.

At least they weren't hurling explosives. That's an improvement.

129 EE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:55:43pm

re #121

In the meantime two more fatwas were issued by Islamic extremists, two more prices were set on her head, and hundreds of thousands of fundamentalists took to the streets, demanding her death. The majority who were not fundamentalists remained silent. Regardless, some anti-fundamentalist political groups did protest the fundamentalist uprising, but did not defend Taslima as a writer and a human being who should have the freedom to express her views. Only a few writers defended her rights.

But the international organization of writers, and many humanist organizations beyond the borders of Bangladesh, came to Taslima's support. News of her plight became known throughout the world. Some western democratic governments that endorse human rights and freedom of expression tried saving her life. After long miserable days in hiding, she was finally granted bail but was also forced to leave her country.

Wherever she lived, she fought for human rights and women’s rights. In 1998, without the government's permission she risked a return, to be with her ailing mother. Again, fundamentalists demanded she be killed. When her mother - a religious Muslim - died, nobody came from any mosque to lead her funeral, her crime being that she was the mother of an 'infidel'. A case again was filed against her on the charges of hurting religious feelings of the people. After a few weeks of staying, Taslima was forced to leave her country once more. Taslima was desperate to see her father when he was ill, but the government did not let her go to Bangladesh. Her passport was not renewed, her rights as a citizen had constantly been violated by the governmental authority.
Taslima has been living in exile in Europe. She has written twenty eight books of poetry, essays, novels, and short stories in her native language of Bengali. Many have been translated into twenty different languages. Her applications to the Bangladesh government to be allowed to return have been denied repeatedly. One Bangladesh court sentenced her in absentia to a one-year prison term. The Bangladesh government has recently banned three other of her books, Amar Meyebela ( My girlhood), Utol Hawa (Wild wind) and Sei sob ondhokar(Those dark days).

Writers and intellectuals both in Bangladesh and West Bengal went to court to ban her autobiography Ko( speak up) and Dwikhandito( Split in Two). Two million-dollar defamations suits were filed against Taslima by her fellow writers. The West Bengal government finally managed to ban Dwikhandito on the charges of hurting religious feelings of the people. A Human Rights organization in Kolkata flied a case against West Bengal government for banning a book that is against freedom of expression. After two years, the ban was lifted by the Kolkata High Court, which, Taslima says, is a victory for freedom of expression.

130 grumpy old codger  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:56:19pm

re: #128 desertdweller
Not an improvement really. Rather, currently, they're the minority. weapons will cme with an increase in numbers.

131 paxnhymn  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:56:52pm

re: #125 bofh

Not to minimize the incident...

But...

Man, they fight like a bunch of girly men.

you noticed that to? That's what I keep saying. Watch the way they make war in mooslem countries. It looks like an islamized version of the Keystone Cops, with a hundred bearded idiots hanging off of one of those damn speeding white Toyota pickups, all waving their RPGs and Kalishnikov's frantically. It would be a hilarious riot except every now and again they kill innocents. My dad had a saying about things like that:
"Even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then."

They suck at fighting, they just get lucky sometimes.

132 EE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:56:53pm

re #121



The numerous prestigious awards she has received in western countries have resulted in increased international attention to her struggle for women's rights and freedom of expression. She has become a symbol of free-speech. Taslima has been invited to speak in many countries and at renowned universities throughout the world. Her dreams of secularization of society and secular instead of religious education are becoming increasingly more accepted and honored by those who value freedom.

Taslima now lives in Kolkata.

133 Jimmah  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 6:57:40pm

re: #119 paxnhymn

"We are Muslims first. And its our responsibility to testkill those who have said anything against Islam in which ever way possible,”

Edited for correctness.

Yeah...that's got to be the creepiest and most malevolent use of the word 'test' I've seen. I'm sure there is something inside the Islamist brain that knows that their religion is preposterous bullshit; some repressed part of their mind has noted the contradictions, the inconsistencies and the overall silliness and made a quick calculation or two; that's why they react like this. They know it could all come crumbling down with nothing more than a little bit of reasoned analysis; they know that people like Taslima Nasreen actually do have the power to destroy their faith. That's why they want to kill them; silencing that inner voice of reason is not enough - the external voices must be silenced too.

134 rtheyserius  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:04:46pm

Click your heels three times and keep repeating...

There's nothing wrong with Islam.
There's nothing wrong with Islam.
There's nothing wrong with Islam.

135 Alouette  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:08:09pm

I wrote a novel, years ago. But while I was trying to find a publisher, I was warned that "secular Jews wouldn't like it" and therefore my chances of selling it were slim to none.

136 pst314  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:10:04pm

Waiting for that "moderate muslim majority" to march in protest against this attack.

Not holding my breath.

Religion of peace and tolerance my ass.

137 dak  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:10:46pm
Bangladeshi writer and women’s rights activist

See now here's your problem right there.
Rule number one: Be good muslim woman and STFU.

Not a muslim woman but living in predominantly muslim area?

See rule number one.

138 paxnhymn  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:11:37pm

re: #136 pst314

Waiting for that "moderate muslim majority" to march in protest against this attack.

Not holding my breath.

Religion of peace and tolerance my ass.


yep. they'll all come a ridin' in on unicorns too...


/

139 dr. akim ullsheetbay  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:12:38pm

and they all like to say that jews are sons of monkeys and pigs.

islam look in the mirror.

140 ratherdashing  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:14:36pm

Another Bangladeshi in deep trouble for suggesting normalized relations with Israel and denouncing Islamic radicalism:

Salah Choudhury


Surprisingly, after years of being prevented from traveling abroad, he was allowed to come to the US for a week. But afterwards, he was to return to Dhaka and danger. Choudhury, the publisher and editor of a weekly English-language newspaper, has been charged with treason, sedition, and blasphemy. His alleged crimes? Advocating relations between Bangladesh and Israel, promoting interfaith respect and tolerance, and denouncing Islamic radicalism. For these transgressions, he could be sentenced to death. As it is, he’s already been imprisoned, placed in isolation and tortured, while his newspaper’s offices have been bombed twice.

- hat tip Red Tulips at Culture for All

141 stevieray  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:16:45pm

re: #113 WimbledonWomble

You are correct. This is why I still have a glimmer of hope for Europe and a bit more than that for America.

As long as the Muslim Brotherhood and its spawn (CAIR, MIB, etc.) continue to exist, they will continue to offend, bother, bedevil, and grate on their host cultures. They will have to continue to push because they cannot take the chance their minions will truly westernize... they may like it too much to go back. Eventually, the non-muslim world will have had enough, and things will change.

The counter-reaction will be messy, as you say, but remember... messes can be cleaned up. The subjugation and extinction of the West would be permanent. Sometimes the ugly way is the only way.

142 Joan Not of Arc  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:26:28pm

I'd read that there were men who tried to help Miss Nasreen by deflecting blows. That's chivalry for you. That's what REAL men do.
Not that I'm accusing Muslims of having chivalry. The religion of peace wouldn't be the religion of peace if it didn't hurt and humiliate women.

143 southernborn  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:30:07pm

I have always believed that one of a kind woman lives on borrowed time
She is a brave soul

144 Logan  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:30:56pm

If any religious group knows the kind of barbarism islam is capable of it's the hindu community. God bless those brave men who tried to protect her.

145 EE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:32:51pm

It would be nice if President Bush presented an award for global leadership in human rights for women to Tasleena Nasreen, and simultaneously announced a global campaign for human rights for women.

There's the equivalent of predators from the desert attacking global civilization. Not just an attack on the US, but an attack against global civilization.

Why not have resistance on more than one front?

(1)There is the war on terror, which opposes a tactic that the predators from the desert use, a tactic that is a war crime: terrorism.

(2)There is the campaign for democracy, which supports a modern method of joining the public to their government, which the predators from the desert oppose, in favor of clerical dictatorship.

(3) Why not add to that a global campaign for human rights for women? The predators from the desert are for subjugation of women, but let us make it clear that we in the US are for a campaign of human rights for women. Even the feminists in our country -- I mean real feminists not those tied to Islamists first and who are feminists only second -- would have to support that, wouldn't they? And even the liberals of all shades -- I mean real liberals, not the leftists who pretend to be liberals, but are tied to Islamists first and are liberals only second -- would have to support that, wouldn't they?

By attacking the predators on several fronts, perhaps we can get more allies for the fight, and perhaps we can divide the predator enemy better.

146 Logan  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:35:39pm

re: #145 EE


I'd also like to nominate Aryaan Hirsi Ali.

147 rorschach  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:40:51pm

India was sooo screwed by the muslims when they were duped into breaking off a section of their country (Pakistan) to give to the muslims.

The trouble was, all the muslims didn't move. Many stayed behind and now want the rest of India as well.

148 EE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:41:38pm

re: #146 Logan

re: #145 EE


I'd also like to nominate Aryaan Hirsi Ali.

That sounds good. And Ms. Ali is now living in America, which would make it very easy for her to visit the President, if he should decide to bestow an honor upon her.

The US perhaps should start a third front in the resistance to the predators of the desert: besides the war on terror, and besides the campaign for democracy, let's spearhead a global campaign for human rights for women.

Gain allies; divide the predators from the desert.

149 sheik yer'mami  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:45:02pm

'Controversial' is such a BS-word, it gives me the creeps. It is the escape hatch of every far left ratbag journo who tries to wiggle around reality.

Anyone who speaks out against Islam thus becomes 'controversial'- I blame the filth and the collective insanity of the MSM.

But this is worse:

[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

150 Logan  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:45:54pm

re: #147 rorschach

You'd think the creation of a seperate muslim nation (Pakistan) would resolve their muslim epidemic...

India is still appx. 15% muslim.

151 ratherdashing  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 7:50:14pm

re: #145 EE

It's very important to support those dissidents that live within "fear societies" as Natan Sharansky has labeled them. Our State Department needs to make sure they are not forgotten. Our press needs to illuminate their cause. Our human rights organizations need to champion their efforts. We cannot afford to let these folks down.

Freedom vs Fear


On those rare occasions when the leaders of democratic societies have put pressure on nondemocratic societies to improve their treatment of their own people, fear societies have been able to embrace freedom. For example, Ronald Reagan showed moral clarity in facing the coerciveness of the USSR, and Reagan’s pressure resulted in the total collapse of that fear society. Of course, Reagan did not accomplish that feat single-handedly. A democrat senator Henry Jackson had a hand in it. As did a provision of the Helsinki Accords.
152 EE  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 8:00:59pm

re: #151 ratherdashing

re: #145 EE

It's very important to support those dissidents that live within "fear societies" as Natan Sharansky has labeled them. Our State Department needs to make sure they are not forgotten. Our press needs to illuminate their cause. Our human rights organizations need to champion their efforts. We cannot afford to let these folks down.

Freedom vs Fear



On those rare occasions when the leaders of democratic societies have put pressure on nondemocratic societies to improve their treatment of their own people, fear societies have been able to embrace freedom. For example, Ronald Reagan showed moral clarity in facing the coerciveness of the USSR, and Reagan’s pressure resulted in the total collapse of that fear society. Of course, Reagan did not accomplish that feat single-handedly. A democrat senator Henry Jackson had a hand in it. As did a provision of the Helsinki Accords.

I agree. And that includes Taslima Nasreen, and her global campaign for human rights for women.

153 wanumba  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 8:01:41pm

People ARE aware that the Bush Administration is chest-deep in negotiations with the Indians on a comprehensive strategic alliance, including nuclear?
India Abroad had this week an article "Cheney to the Rescue" : our V.P.'s efforts to keep the agreement moving ahead. Democrats seem to be less than thrilled with the direction the negotiations are going and are digging their heels in - in contrast to the Indians who perceive that the Bush Administration is dealing with India as a full partner - a break from the usual US diplomacy of treating India and Pakistan as twins rather than competitors.
The Bush administration is looking ahead to the next twenty years, and the Dems care only about 2008 - to the detriment of everything else.

154 Josephine  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 8:04:27pm

Thank you for this video.

They sound like barking dogs on the attack.

Perhaps Taslima Nasreen was shocked (and frightened) by the actual physical violence? Threats are scary enough but having a gang of barking men attack you would get the adrenaline pumping. Even if you have people around you, violence (and accidents) can happen in a split second.

155 Carridine  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 8:07:36pm

re: #115 abu_garcia

re: #111 screaming_eagle

No argument from me there. I read and believe Derbyshire on the Chinese.

Garcia, notice that Derbyshire has experienced (on the receiving end) the rabid, deep-seated RACISM and NATIONALISM of those emigrant Sino-Americans!

Racism, Nationalism and Materialism... the Three Evil Giants devouring our world!

/Giant Evils will do...

156 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 8:19:01pm
157 Tosprops  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 8:22:56pm

Now that CAIR has come out strongly against radicals as documented here - [Link: www.reuters.com...] -, I am sure they will step in and assist Tasleema Nasreen. /sarcasm

158 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 8:25:25pm
159 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 8:37:43pm
160 sharksandwich  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 8:40:17pm

I spent a few days in Hyderabad a couple of months ago. Out of all of our stops (Delhi, Bangalore, Cochin, Agra, Mysore, Jaipur, etc) Hyderabad was the worst. I remember driving into the city from the airport an getting an unusual sense of unease. The parts of the town I visited all had this chaotic feel to them--I mean chaos even by Indian standards. I'm not a religious person, but overall I got the creeps. Couldn't wait to move on....

161 abu_garcia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:09:15pm

re: #159 ploome hineni

Very interesting. Thanks.

162 Jagan  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:10:42pm

Hyderabad is home to one of India's largest moslem ghettoes.

It was formerly a Princely state under the British India; At independence (Of India), the Nizam toyed with the idea of becoming an independent Islamic state, but was quickly annexed to the new Indian state and the dreams of an Islamic state in the very heart of India stays unfullfilled.. these activists are trying to revive that dream.

163 abu_garcia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:21:24pm

My opinion of Bangladesh was formed at the time of their independence. There was a photo, in Life or Look I think, of a man being bayonetted to death and in the caption it told of a ten year old who tried to stop the killing being kicked to death. Seeing that picture was a world changer for me - no more innocent "noble savages".

Oddly enough, I just did a search to try to find a link to the picture to post, couldn't find one, but I find a description by Orianna Fallaci from The Rage and the Pride. I guess the picture impressed her also. I can never hear "Bangladesh" by George Harrison without seeing the picture in my minds eye.

The description by Fallaci:

"To make you cry I’ll tell you about the twelve young impure men I saw executed at Dacca at the end of the Bangladesh war. They executed them on the field of Dacca stadium, with bayonet blows to the torso or abdomen, in the presence of twenty thousand faithful who applauded in the name of God from the bleachers. They thundered "Allah akbar, Allah akbar." Yes, I know: the ancient Romans, those ancient Romans of whom my culture is so proud, entertained themselves in the Coliseum by watching the deaths of Christians fed to the lions. I know, I know: in every country of Europe the Christians, those Christians whose contribution to the History of Thought I recognize despite my atheism, entertained themselves by watching the burning of heretics. But a lot of time has passed since then, we have become a little more civilized, and even the sons of Allah ought to have figured out by now that certain things are just not done. After the twelve impure young men they killed a little boy who had thrown himself at the executioners to save his brother who had been condemned to death. They smashed his head with their combat boots. And if you don’t believe it, well, reread my report or the reports of the French and German journalists who, horrified as I was, were there with me. Or better: look at the photographs that one of them took. Anyway this isn’t even what I want to underline. It’s that, at the conclusion of the slaughter, the twenty thousand faithful (many of whom were women) left the bleachers and went down on the field. Not as a disorganized mob, no. In an orderly manner, with solemnity. They slowly formed a line and, again in the name of God, walked over the cadavers. All the while thundering Allah–akbar, Allah–akbar. They destroyed them like the Twin Towers of New York. They reduced them to a bleeding carpet of smashed bones."

I'd better go buy the book.

164 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:41:51pm
165 abu_garcia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 9:51:38pm

re: #164 ploome hineni

I got a page about a guy named Felice Beato who died in 1907. Can you check the link?

I really would like to see if that picture is still around.

TIA

166 johncharles  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:01:59pm

re: #18 Old Grouch

member legislative assembly (i think)

167 Boot Hill  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:05:40pm

re: #97 Thanos

The activists shouted slogans against Nasreen, condemning her for allegedly un-Islamic writing, as they overturned chairs and broke flowerpots and vases at the venue, witnesses said.

Salauddin Owaisi, president of the Majlis-e-Ittehadul-Muslimeen party, defended the attack, saying “all Muslims in Hyderabad will praise our party for this.”

“You cannot write anything just to gain cheap popularity and fame. You need to respect the sentiments of people,” Owaisi told India’s Headlines news channel. The Majlis-e-Ittehadul-Muslimeen party is aligned with India’s ruling Congress party.

This is the part that I can not for the life of me understand. Why is it that so many apologists, or whatever you want to call them, can not see this logic? We MUST respect their sentiments, yet anyone who expresses opposing or "disrespectful" sentiments must be met with violence. It's a lose-lose situation for anyone other than them.
period. end of story. You look at every single "islamic" outcry, and this is the logic that comes from it. Respect my religion, but to hell with yours.

168 abu_garcia  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:06:41pm

This is a picture before the killing started

[Link: delivery.viewimages.com...]

but the really horrific one was of a man from the waist up with bayonets in his gut and an expression on his face of horror and pain. His kid brother was the one who got kicked to death.

ROPMA

169 Aloysius  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:12:02pm

Mohammedan thugs assaulting a critic of Islam? I'm shocked...shocked...

Channeling Captain Renault, again...

170 mrclark  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:17:49pm

BRAVE BRAVE BRAVE MUJ....

Attacking a woman...they should be ashamed. Friggin lowbrow idiots.

171 willtay73  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:27:40pm

All I really have to say about this is that here is proof of how much a degrading religion islam is and how much its followers are willing to go to enforce beliefs based on the Koran.

Why aren't Women's Rights groups picking this up? Why is this not being televised nationally?

Oh yeah, the MSM is in charge.

172 willtay73  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:28:06pm

re: #171 willtay73

All I really have to say about this is that here is proof of how much a degrading religion islam is and how much its followers are willing to go to enforce beliefs based on the Koran.

Why aren't Women's Rights groups picking this up? Why is this not being televised nationally?

Oh yeah, the MSM is in charge.

I meant far.

173 Cicero05  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:28:56pm

re: #142 Joan Not of Arc

I'd read that there were men who tried to help Miss Nasreen by deflecting blows. That's chivalry for you. That's what REAL men do.
Not that I'm accusing Muslims of having chivalry. The religion of peace wouldn't be the religion of peace if it didn't hurt and humiliate women.

Chivalry is an ideal of Western culture. It has never had any reasonance in muslim culture. There, it is a matter of pride that the powerful prey on the weak.

Just watch a video of muslim "men" stoning a sixteen year-old girl to death for disgracing her family. It really drives home the point.

174 cbinflux  Thu, Aug 9, 2007 10:58:12pm

test = see if they can live thru multiple stonings

175 Sabraguy  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 12:56:53am
”We are not bothered about our MLA status. We are Muslims first.

We aren't bothered by your status either. You are Muslims first.

176 haakondahl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:21:12am
”We are not bothered about our MLA status. We are Muslims first. And its our responsibility to test those who have said anything against Islam in which ever way possible,” said Akbaruddin Owaisi, MIM MLA.

Islam is incompatible with Democracy.

Democracy literally means "Leadership by the people" while Islam literally means "Submission to Allah." It takes a graduate degree to fool yourself about this.

177 haakondahl  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 2:29:33am

re: #133 Jimmah

re: #119 paxnhymn


"We are Muslims first. And its our responsibility to testkill those who have said anything against Islam in which ever way possible,”

Edited for correctness.


Yeah...that's got to be the creepiest and most malevolent use of the word 'test' I've seen. I'm sure there is something inside the Islamist brain that knows that their religion is preposterous bullshit; some repressed part of their mind has noted the contradictions, the inconsistencies and the overall silliness and made a quick calculation or two; that's why they react like this. They know it could all come crumbling down with nothing more than a little bit of reasoned analysis; they know that people like Taslima Nasreen actually do have the power to destroy their faith. That's why they want to kill them; silencing that inner voice of reason is not enough - the external voices must be silenced too.

"Test." This sounds like a rather generous translation of a term which doesn't map exactly to an English word. Like throwing a tied-up woman into a pond to "test" whether she is a witch. If she lives, she is put to death, but if she drowns, she was innocent.

I don't recall any leftists arguing that early American religion-based terrors were culturally appropriate and should be respected, nor should they. There can be no justification for the barbaric practices of backward peoples in this day and age.

178 aussie_dave  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 3:28:07am

Animals..

179 Is it me?  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:31:26am

#113 Wimbledon Womble

You are absolutely correct. I keep saying (and I'm starting to bore myself with this one) that Britain is starting to vibrate. Ignore Nu Labour (completely out of touch not only with the ordinary people of this country but with reality) the Meeja (don't even go there) the intelligencia (what intelligence) and the chattering classes. They are not the grass roots Brits, esp. the English.
I used to be a tolerant old hippie. Not anymore. I am steadily - albeit slowing - trotting to somewhere to the right of Atilla the Hun. After 10 years of being ignored, demonised, and having my country (England) subjected to a sustained and degrading attack on my history and culture I have finally had enough.
Trouble's coming. When it does it ain't going to be pretty. Us Brits are slow to anger, but when we are pushed too far. Watch out.


Is there nothing we (out here in the blogshphere) can do to try to support Taslima Nasireen? Even try to send her our support?
Why do Islamisists have so much trouble with women? They scared of us or something.
Insanity all round.

180 BabbaZee  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 4:59:12am
181 joshlbetts  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:12:40am

We must fight back.
Should we strive to ban islam?
Do we expel all muslims?
Or do we wait for the most radical groups to break the law, while the "moderate" muslim population grows and we end up like England and France and we have a low intensity intafada?

182 MiB  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:19:53am

Can anyone else imagine American journalists forming a protective ring around her and letting her hightail it out of there?

Somehow I just imagine they'd film her getting ripped limb from limb and then opine about how tragic it was.

183 Goosio  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:20:57am

India should be so proud.

184 humanity  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:21:45am

Allah-Fuckbar

Test me Mohammedian's... I will start now speaking against the pedophile Mohammed

185 alpheus  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 5:53:14am

"We are not bothered about our MLA status. We are Muslims first. And its our responsibility to test those who have said anything against Islam in which ever way possible,” said Akbaruddin Owaisi, MIM MLA."

Now contrast this with the U.S., where (some would argue) your religion is personal and you would should conduct yourself in office with no regard for your particular religion.

Not even in the left's own beliefs does Islam make sense.

186 joshlbetts  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:22:29am

re: #185 alpheus

"We are not bothered about our MLA status. We are Muslims first. And its our responsibility to test those who have said anything against Islam in which ever way possible,” said Akbaruddin Owaisi, MIM MLA."

Now contrast this with the U.S., where (some would argue) your religion is personal and you would should conduct yourself in office with no regard for your particular religion.

Not even in the left's own beliefs does Islam make sense.


I disagree. It's not the U.S. Islam is a political organization acting under the name of religion, see Robert Spencer's extensive and lucid writings. It will happen here, once the muslim population reaches a critical level.

187 cygnus  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:32:27am

re: #35 Manfred the Wonder Dog

I'm drawing a blank, too. whatsa MLA?

Muslim Loonies Attack

188 shrike  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:47:00am

#113

Kind of like situations at work where management bends over backwards to accommodate the slackers and troublemakers that will never be satisfied, so much so they end up alienating the people who are actually doing their jobs without a fuss. Everyone ends up unhappy.

189 cygnus  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 6:50:03am

re: #154 Josephine

Thank you for this video.

They sound like barking dogs on the attack.

Perhaps Taslima Nasreen was shocked (and frightened) by the actual physical violence? Threats are scary enough but having a gang of barking men attack you would get the adrenaline pumping. Even if you have people around you, violence (and accidents) can happen in a split second.

Have they received their rabies and distemper shots yet?

190 Morganfrost  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 7:07:05am

What happened to the whole moderate "this is not us" thing?

191 Pete(Detroit)  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 9:31:48am

Rockworshipping death cult scumbags.
What asshats.

192 kj666  Fri, Aug 10, 2007 10:15:17am

It's always funny to consider something like this:

Imagine it wasn't a COUPLE of Muslims in a ROOM FULL of Hindus in a Hindu nation. Imagine it was a COUPLE of Hindus in a room full of Muslims in Pakistan or Bangla-hell; or a COUPLE of Jews in a room full of Muslims in Iran, Saudi Arabia, or any other Muslim hellhole; or a COUPLE of Copts in a room full of Muslims in Egypt, or ANY other situation wherein a couple of non-Muslims were in a room full of Muslims in any Muslim nation (or even any civilized nation)... the result would be a bloodbath for the non-Muslims.

THAT'S the difference between Islam and Civilization, period.


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