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-RetweetScott Beauchamp Declines to Speak to Media

Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 9:14:01 pm PDT

At The Weekly Standard, a statement from the Army on Scott Beauchamp, and The New Republic’s claim that he’s being prevented from communicating:

We are not preventing him from speaking to TNR or anyone. He has full access to the Morale Welfare and Recreation phones that all the other members of the unit are free to use. It is my understanding that he has been informed of the requests to speak to various members of the media, both traditional and non-traditional and has declined. That is his right.

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1 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:14:31pm

but of course he does...

2 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:15:14pm

After all, what would he say?

3 m  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:16:30pm

re: #2 Thanos

Seriously. I guess the truth is asking too much.

4 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:16:43pm

He will wait until he is out of the army, and then say he was pressured, etc. He will write a book, it will sell to moonbats like hotcakes. He will speak on campus' across the country, and do interviews with "the dan" on HDNET

5 DesertSage  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:16:44pm

TNR is digging themselves into a deeper and deeper hole.

6 ornery elephant  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:17:03pm

First AND second Thanos?!

wow

7 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:17:25pm

He's probably realized how badly he messed up.

8 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:17:29pm

Answering for what you've done is tough, huh scotty?

9 rtheyserius  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:17:45pm

Who cares?

Hey wait, is Paris still in jail? Yawnn.

10 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:17:56pm

re: #6 ornery elephant

First AND second Thanos?!

wow

Hey, Charles, I didn't say it! :)

11 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:18:17pm

re: #4 Thanos

PrisonPlanet is running a story that the military is gagging all servicemembers.

12 BingoBunny  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:18:17pm

He will speak when he's free of the naziBushClones.. like sKerry.. OMG what kinda politics trumps national defense cult has the democrats became when they send people into military to give bad reports.

13 kahall  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:18:40pm

I cannot stop mispronouncing the guys name when I read the stories.. Is it like Beecham just spelled funnily?

14 Racer X  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:18:52pm

The left loves our millitary like OJ loved Nicole.

15 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:20:40pm

re: #11 MandyManners

re: #4 Thanos

PrisonPlanet is running a story that the military is gagging all servicemembers.

That's to be expected -- they will all be writing angles on this for two months until they get the mythos built, then it will be made into an Oliver Stone movie and Scott will become enshrined in the Liberal Mythos temple somewhere between Hanoi Jane and Karen Silkwood.

16 ornery elephant  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:21:20pm

okay this may be the record for a premature " OT "...

but many of us may wonder from time to time why we come here and why we fight the jihadists. For me...

This is the Reason

17 Bob's Kid  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:21:50pm

re: #5 DesertSage

TNR is digging themselves into a deeper and deeper hole.

The do seem to be and it causes me to wonder why the heck they don't see it. Perhaps they have had so many years of getting away with this sort of lie that they truly think they will pull it off again?

I don't know. It's insane.

18 m  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:22:23pm

re: #11 MandyManners

Hell Kathy Griffin toured Iraq (which I thought was quite cool of her) then ignored all the good things the guys said right to her face. She had a smartass comment like "they'd go to jail for telling the truth".

I was FURIOUS!

They put their lives on the line for us to GUARANTEE our freedom of speech but they'd be put in jail for critisizing Bush?

I don't fucking think so.

19 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:23:02pm

re: #15 Thanos

Yep. There's nothing too loony for the left.

20 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:23:37pm

Buttchump should be viewed as sort of a j Fng Kerry in training. Merely, another toadstool getting in line for a role in the dem party, say in 20 years, say, 2028?
He's reading right put of the Jane fondle, 60's instruction book. Maybe, J fing kerry can give him some real good pointers.

21 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:23:51pm

re: #18 m

Don't hold back. How do you really feel?

22 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:24:26pm

re: #16 ornery elephant

okay this may be the record for a premature " OT "...

but many of us may wonder from time to time why we come here and why we fight the jihadists. For me...

This is the Reason

That's an overdose of cute, you should have posted it for Sick last thread. :)

23 m  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:24:42pm

Criticizing. ^ ^ Shoot. See how mad it made me?! lol

24 Sihlus  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:25:09pm

re: #16 ornery elephant

And this is offensive to Allah? Sheesh!

25 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:25:43pm

Charles:

I've almost reported five friends trying to hit the "quote" button so far, any chance you could move it more to right?

26 m  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:25:55pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

Answering for what you've done is tough, huh scotty?

The left wouldn't know personal responsibility if it bit them on the rear.

27 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:26:05pm

Of course- if I'd completely blown sunshine bullsh*t up tnr's *ss, I wouldn't take their phone calls either.

28 happy4la  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:26:17pm

Is the "fake but accurate" theme embedded into liberal thought nowadays (always?)? Interview a "random" man on the street to support a journalist's story. Although this is not the MSM they are certainly playing with a similar playbook and share a leftist bias. Kudos to the army for learning how to deal with issues like this so well.

29 varmint  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:28:50pm

wonder how his marriage is holding up

30 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:29:01pm

I like it that Bill follows up on these things -- would that more reporters did. From the same article:

We will not nor can we force a Soldier to talk to the media or his family or anyone really for that matter in these types of issues.

We fully understand the issues on this. What everyone must understand is that we will not breach the rights of the Soldier and this is where this is at this point.

31 dentate  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:31:40pm

No doubt young Scott simply subscribes to the rule his mother taught him, "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all"...no wait...guess not.

32 ornery elephant  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:32:48pm

Scott studied under his mentor...you know...the one that said,

" I did NOT have sexual relations with THAT woman!"

33 1560 SHP  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:33:31pm

He has at least learned "The first rule of holes."

--When you are in too deep, STOP DIGGING!

34 pat  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:34:01pm

Murtha, Kerry, Beauchump. The Democrats army.

35 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:35:14pm

re: #25 Thanos

I've done that a few times, too.

36 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:35:14pm

You have to wonder what it's like for him over there now, can't be easy -- everyone there probably knows this whole sordid mess front to back now, including his mess-mates. (not that I have any pity for him mind you.)

37 rappmandu  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:35:42pm

Evidently, YearlyKos has gotten Beauchamp's commanding officers to silence him.

For his own good, of course.

/

38 ornery elephant  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:36:08pm

Is anyone else having trouble replying or quoting at the moment?

#34 pat (did that the old fashioned way)

you forgot Wesley Clark!

39 m  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:36:10pm

re: #21 MandyManners

re: #18 m

Don't hold back. How do you really feel?

Pull up a chair... it could take awhile... ;-)

40 pat  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:36:41pm

Now think how the left treated this guy versus that Sgt. That asked if the surge was working at the Kos Mil, open speech, workshop.

41 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:36:53pm

Scott's counting the dust bunnies under his bed.

42 pat  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:37:26pm

OE, Thanks

43 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:37:33pm

re: #38 ornery elephant

Is anyone else having trouble replying or quoting at the moment?

#34 pat (did that the old fashioned way)

you forgot Wesley Clark!

Replying? I thought replying was reporting?

Silly me!

44 Mr. E. Train  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:37:59pm

They already know the truth, its just a matter of finding the facts/story/ that fits. Even if this weaselly little shite admits that everything he wrote is a lie, the Progressives will believe that the military does what he describes.

Never forget. the Left is held together and motivated by what they hate.

That is, you, me and the classically liberal mode of modern Western civilization.

And oh yea, he will wait until he is out of the military then claim that he was threatened with death and prison by the army if he didn't keep his yap shut. The Left will love him forever. He can spend the rest of his life attending Kos like conventions, living of telling the same stories (lies) to a hungry audience. Kinda like the old Star Trek cast schlepping from sci-fi convention to sci-fi convention, living off of a long past moment of fame.

45 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:38:24pm

re: #38 ornery elephant

What browser are you using.

More importantly, when's the last time you cleaned up your temporary files: cache, cookies, that kind of shit.

Run a clean with your security software, then reboot your browser. I bet it will pick up after that.

46 pat  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:38:26pm

lolol

47 ornery elephant  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:38:39pm

#43 Ginn

I still can't reply! I think i have the 1949 version of Internet Explorer!

No DF show tonight : (

48 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:38:42pm

re: #39 m

re: #21 MandyManners

re: #18 mDon't hold back. How do you really feel?
Pull up a chair... it could take awhile... ;-)

Let me tell you a story bout a man named Scott
a poor Private in the Military
that just got caught..

Lyin, that is...

49 cbinflux  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:39:17pm

Damned shame that he's missing his 15 minutes.
/

50 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:39:21pm

re: #47 ornery elephant

#43 Ginn

I still can't reply! I think i have the 1949 version of Internet Explorer!

No DF show tonight : (

oh no! I love that show!

51 FQ Kafir  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:39:24pm

OT, but just breaking (at AoS):

Muslims arrested in SC for explosives in truck have tangential connections to Sami al-Arian (terrorist financier and "educator")

52 stevieray  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:39:46pm

I think TNR knows they are toast, and they are stalling their admission for two main reasons:

1. Hoping for something... anything... to break in their favor to save a little face.

2. A really big news event may happen, and they can release their admission in the midst of the chaos... most of the public won't notice it.

If neither of those things happen, they can get away with stalling a while by citing the three week preplanned vacation... they'll play the "What, you want the janitor to make a statement? We were on vacation!" card, and their so-called competition in the MSM will accept that excuse.

They have little to lose by waiting, and may get lucky and regain a little bit of their dignity.

53 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:40:01pm

re: #39 m

I bet!

54 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:40:04pm

All these buttons.. reminds me of a slot machine!

55 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:40:57pm

re: #51 FQ Kafir

OT, but just breaking (at AoS):

Muslims arrested in SC for explosives in truck have tangential connections to Sami al-Arian (terrorist financier and "educator")

They all bought their "fireworks" at Al Sami's Fireworks and Persian Carpet Outlet?

56 pat  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:41:09pm

#51 FQ Kafir
Good one. And they were also in same Dept at school.

57 ornery elephant  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:41:27pm

re: #45 Noam Sayin'


Noam, you're a life saver! Thanks...I think I had cookies from back when Bill Clinton was still seeing Paula Jones!

All good now

58 meMarc  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:41:41pm

Give the guy a break. He may have forgotten how to tell the truth. He might be practicing right now. Give him a couple day.

59 cbinflux  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:41:41pm

re: #38 ornery elephant

Yes, LGF seems to be having whispering strokes

60 pdogg  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:41:43pm

Maybe Scott was to busy running over stray dogs to talk to the media.

61 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:42:03pm

re: #51 FQ Kafir

OT, but just breaking (at AoS):

Muslims arrested in SC for explosives in truck have tangential connections to Sami al-Arian (terrorist financier and "educator")

That's an interesting find, something we've all been wondering about.

62 Arbalest  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:44:17pm

I wonder if 24y.o. S.M. Beauchamp has finally realized that he’s already in the process of taking a major fall, and that keeping his mouth shut until he has time to read all blogs, and cook up a new strategy, is his best chance for survival.

Problem is, he, at best a 24y.o. wunderkind, is not even remotely in the same league as the 3 or 4 (or possibly more) editors at TNR who’s jobs, and probably multi-million dollar business, are on the line.

I wonder just how much documentation he has.

Hiding until all of this blows over (particularly once he’s back in the US) seems to be a very good strategy.


I wonder what the original STB-TNR conditions were:

1. Why did STB, formerly a chief editor of a college newspaper, enlist?
2. What was the original relationship between STB and TNR?
. . . . was STB’s true identity known or unknown to TNR (and who)?
3. Is / was there some sort of written agreement between STB & TNR?
4. In all intellectual honesty, did the mature, seasoned, experienced, hard-boiled, hard-bitten, two-fisted, adult editors of TNR really not smell the stink emanating from STB’s writings and blog?

Did they not at least have the sense to delete the stuff obviously in need of being flushed, and tone down most of the words?

Would they have then had nothing left?

They would still have their reputations, and that of TNR, left.

63 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:45:00pm

re: #48 Ginn

We need a song that mocks him.

64 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:45:13pm

re: #57 ornery elephant

The scary thing is, dude? I haven't the slightest f*cking idea what I'm talking about. I just see that kind of $#!+ posted here once in a while and thought I'd sound like an expert. Glad I didn't f*ck up your computer.

And ironically, I programmed computers in the early 80s; RPG II on an IBM System 34. Boy was I jealous of my friends who got to work with the System 36. Now that was state of the art in 1983.

/geek

65 ornery elephant  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:46:40pm

OT

I didn't want anyone to miss it tomorrow morning - Tim "IAmADemocrat" Russert has Markos "MyBlogis4Whiners" Moulitsas as a guest on Meet The Press tomorrow.

You suppose Tim will allow call in questions like: "So Kos, baby...how about you run footage of that question the young soldier asked your panel?"

67 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:46:46pm

re: #51 FQ Kafir

OT, but just breaking (at AoS):

Muslims arrested in SC for explosives in truck have tangential connections to Sami al-Arian (terrorist financier and "educator")

Interesting.

68 pat  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:47:52pm

USA warns Muslim loving Brits that the Brithish Gitmo Boys are not reciprocating the love.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

69 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:48:15pm

re: #63 MandyManners

re: #48 Ginn

We need a song that mocks him.

I'm Sick Of It All!

I can't, I can't.

/pretends to be Lefty Troll

70 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:48:45pm

The koslings would say the military is lying and they have scott in a tiny cell.

/And they're playing loud music all night...

71 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:48:46pm

re: #65 ornery elephant

OT

I didn't want anyone to miss it tomorrow morning - Tim "IAmADemocrat" Russert has Markos "MyBlogis4Whiners" Moulitsas as a guest on Meet The Press tomorrow.

You suppose Tim will allow call in questions like: "So Kos, baby...how about you run footage of that question the young soldier asked your panel?"

Can you tape it for me. I'll be up in the mountains.

72 cbinflux  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:48:49pm

re: #66 rappmandu

MoD bans UK soldiers from blogging, posting on bulletin boards, and participating in surveys.


Another one that I thought would thread.

73 ornery elephant  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:49:02pm

re: #64 Noam Sayin'

LOL Noam!

Don't underestimate yourself...you're a genius! My computer is running faster and when I try to go to The Huffington Post, my browser pops up a question, "Are you sure you want to visit that hag's site?" !

74 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:49:04pm

re: #70 Sharmuta

The koslings would say the military is lying and they have scott in a tiny cell.

/And they're playing loud music all night...

With granny panties on his head!

75 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:49:10pm

Found the missing Paki soldiers

[Link: dawn.com...]

TANK, Aug 11: Militants in the South Waziristan Agency have demanded release of 10 of their colleagues, taken prisoner by security forces, in exchange for 15 paramilitary personnel said to have been kidnapped on Thursday, according to a tribal elder.

The elder, who held talks with the militants to persuade them to release 15 personnel of the Frontier Corps (FC), confided to Dawn that they had handed over to the authorities a list of 10 prisoners who were arrested on charges of militancy. However, he did not disclose the names of the prisoners.

It is learnt that the administration had given three days to the Mehsud tribesmen to recover the kidnapped personnel, failing which they would be fined Rs500,000 per day under the territorial responsibility clause of the Frontier Crimes Regulation.

The paramilitary men had gone missing when they were proceeding from Frontier Region Jandola to Sararogha in a private vehicle in South Waziristan Agency. However, none of the militant groups claimed responsibility for their kidnapping.

Sararogha and its surrounding areas of the agency are considered to be a stronghold of the slain militant commander Abdullah Mehsud who was killed recently during an encounter in the Zhob district of Balochistan.

Sources said the militants had handed over the list of militants to senior officials of the Frontier Corps in Jandola. It is suspected that the said list includes names of some militants who were arrested in the adjacent Dera Ismail Khan and Tank districts on charges of planning to carry out suicide bombings.

Laddah subdivision’s Assistant Political Agent Yahya Khan told Dawn that they had indeed received information about the militants’ demands, but these were yet to be made through a proper forum. Mr Khan confirmed that the administration had set a three-day deadline to the Mehsud tribe and fine would be imposed against them if they failed to comply with the order.

76 realwest  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:49:11pm

Y'all know that TNR doesn't need Pvt Beauchamp now. Nope, not even a little bit!
After all, they have 5 different soldiers who backed up "Scotty's" story. All the way. All TNR has to do now, is to get these soldiers to agree to be named by TNR, instead of remaining anonymous and - bingo we'd actually have something to talk about and TNR could at least try to retrieve some of it's journalistic integrity.
Unless, of course a) those 5 anonymous soldiers never existed or b) those 5 anonymous soldiers lied to the Army, under Oath and that's why they won't give up their anonymity.

77 Fearless Fred  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:49:26pm

re: #54 Ginn

All these buttons.. reminds me of a slot machine!

hmm ... do fascists get 'reported' now?

Fascionable Fred

78 meMarc  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:50:00pm

Now that I think of it, even his name is a lie. Spelled Beauchamp but pronounced Beecham.

Wonder if Scott is pronouced Snot?

79 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:50:20pm

So he's negotiating for a book deal, he should give it away now that he's famous?

80 markie  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:50:51pm

Beauchump crapped his nest, now he has to live in it.

81 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:50:57pm

re: #74 Ginn

And they won't tell him what direction mecca is in!

82 ornery elephant  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:51:55pm

re: #71 Ginn

re: #65 ornery elephant


OT

I didn't want anyone to miss it tomorrow morning - Tim "IAmADemocrat" Russert has Markos "MyBlogis4Whiners" Moulitsas as a guest on Meet The Press tomorrow.

You suppose Tim will allow call in questions like: "So Kos, baby...how about you run footage of that question the young soldier asked your panel?"


Can you tape it for me. I'll be up in the mountains.

My dear Ginn...you think a guy like me who didn't know how to clean his cookies or cache is gonna figure out how to tape that show?! hahahaha

I'll see what I can do...and be safe up in the altitudes!

83 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:52:14pm

re: #78 meMarc

Now that I think of it, even his name is a lie. Spelled Beauchamp but pronounced Beecham Be-a-sham.

Fixed if for ya.

84 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:52:25pm

re: #76 realwest

Yep! They still want to claim it's all true because of 5 un-named sources.

85 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:52:57pm

Also, the deal between Musharraf and Bhutto is sealed
Here's what I predict:
Musharraf elected by current assembly in uniform
Musharraf standing in front of new assembly after elections sans uniform for re-election - sans uniform that will happen
Bhutto returns in October, will become PM

86 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:53:59pm

re: #81 Sharmuta

re: #74 Ginn

And they won't tell him what direction mecca is in!

LOL.. or TNR!

Those bastards!

87 Fearless Fred  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:54:58pm

re: #70 Sharmuta

The koslings would say the military is lying and they have scott in a tiny cell.

/And they're playing loud music all night...

and the panties on his head ... horrors above!

88 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:57:32pm

re: #51 FQ Kafir

OT, but just breaking (at AoS):

Muslims arrested in SC for explosives in truck have tangential connections to Sami al-Arian (terrorist financier and "educator")


And we should not forget, that in the world of mathematics, "tangential" means "touching."

Kind of strains credulity to believe that this relationship is nothing more than coincidence.

89 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:57:51pm
90 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 9:58:09pm

re: #86 Ginn

What's worse- they feed him.

/Three times a day, even!

91 realwest  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:00:02pm

re: #84 Sharmuta Yep. You know, I'm really, truly sick to death of the media running truly sensational stories from someone they don't know (well, excluding his wife who is, IIRC, an editor at TNR) and relying on anonymous sources to buttress their publishing of such sensational crap.
I really think, perhaps with the exception of the true "whistle blower", the Media ought not to be allowed to use anonymous sources, at all. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada.

92 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:03:12pm

re: #91 realwest

Is it irony that to prove their veracity tnr asks us to just trust them?

93 rappmandu  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:04:40pm

re: #89 Thanos

Any thoughts on where the denizens of those AQ camps skeedaddled? And do you reckon that the US gave Islamabad intel on the camps hoping that ISI islamists would tattle? Buying Pervez and Benazir time, perhaps.

94 realwest  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:07:16pm

re: #92 Sharmuta Nope, stupidity, not irony.

BTW, does anyone know what's happened to Throbert McGee - the one guy who had the balls to tell the shabby truth of this, for which he gets fired!
Has anyone heard from or about him? I sure hope things work out well for him.

95 Del Dolemonte  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:07:18pm

Simple newbie question-the New Republic has been around since my Grandfather was a kid (they set up shop in 1914 as I recall).

Yet they never to my knowledge had any whiff of scandal until the past decade or so. Why is that?

96 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:07:50pm

re: #93 rappmandu

re: #89 Thanos

Any thoughts on where the denizens of those AQ camps skeedaddled? And do you reckon that the US gave Islamabad intel on the camps hoping that ISI islamists would tattle? Buying Pervez and Benazir time, perhaps.


My thoughts are here, I started to add a comment to the camps thread, but ran out of characters :)

97 Maximu§  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:10:06pm

I wouldn't be surprised if an article 15 appears on this soldiers service record shortly.

98 Jeewhiz  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:10:34pm

For those who have had so very much to say and now...


*crickets*

99 realwest  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:10:36pm

re: #93 rappmandu I know you asked Thanos this question, and he's more qualified than I am to answer it, but my guess would be back to Afghanistan. Methinks Al-Q sorta screwed themselves with Iran and I surely don't expect them to show up in Iraq while the "surge" is going on; the last thing these cowardly scumbags want to do is face the US Military in a fight.

100 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:12:25pm

This is either real good ... or real real bad...

These are "Pak or Local" Taliban, might or might not be aligned with Zawahiri, they are obviously on a mission in Darra to win hearts and minds...

The NWFP gov't is talking with them, looks like another jirga.

The jirga bit is frustrating as hell -- you never know whether the Taliban they are talking to are the highly conservative local sorts, or the hard-core Jihadis just itching to get across the border. It's the way the frontiers are set up, and under the laws they have to go through this tribal rigamarole. The tribal regions are like the Territories of the US were before the west was fully won and the territories were made into states.

101 stevieray  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:12:28pm

re: #93 rappmandu

I would guess the AQ campers from the Pakistani hinterland are heading to the most radical big city mosques they can find. With the Red Mosque under new management, they need some new bases of operations and more fresh young minds to twist. I'm sure there are plenty of willing congregations eager for a guaranteed all-access pass to heaven.

102 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:14:27pm

re: #101 stevieray

re: #93 rappmandu

I would guess the AQ campers from the Pakistani hinterland are heading to the most radical big city mosques they can find. With the Red Mosque under new management, they need some new bases of operations and more fresh young minds to twist. I'm sure there are plenty of willing congregations eager for a guaranteed all-access pass to heaven.

You are partially right -- the camps always become a lot more deserted this time of year because school has started.

103 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:16:59pm
Scott Beauchamp Declines to Speak to Media

I often decline to speak to the media myself.

104 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:19:31pm

RoP strikes in India

11 dead in Assam shooting

GUWAHATI, Aug 11: Suspected separatists in Assam shot dead 11 people in the latest ethnic attack ahead of India’s Independence Day celebrations, police said on Saturday. In separate incidents, a child was killed and 18 people were injured in two explosions as rebel groups stepped up attacks to protest New Delhi’s rule over the oil, tea and timber-rich state.

Late on Friday, around a dozen heavily-armed militants entered the homes of two families of Hindi-speaking migrant workers and shot them as they slept, police said.

The attack took place in a village around 250 kilometres east of Assam's main city Guwahati, where many of the dead were working as farm labourers.

In a shooting in the same district on Wednesday, eight Hindi-speaking migrants were killed, raising fears that a new wave of attacks could be under way similar to events in January when over 60 labourers were killed.

The police blamed the attacks on two separatist groups, the United Liberation Front of Asom, which has been fighting for an independent homeland since 1979, and the lesser-known Karbi Longri National Liberation Front.—AFP

105 astronmr20  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:19:48pm

His name reminds me of "Rochambeau." Which is when you kick someone in the nuts.

106 astronmr20  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:21:23pm

re: #104 Thanos

RoP strikes in India

11 dead in Assam shooting

GUWAHATI, Aug 11: Suspected separatists in Assam shot dead 11 people in the latest ethnic attack ahead of India’s Independence Day celebrations, police said on Saturday. In separate incidents, a child was killed and 18 people were injured in two explosions as rebel groups stepped up attacks to protest New Delhi’s rule over the oil, tea and timber-rich state.

Late on Friday, around a dozen heavily-armed militants entered the homes of two families of Hindi-speaking migrant workers and shot them as they slept, police said.

The attack took place in a village around 250 kilometres east of Assam's main city Guwahati, where many of the dead were working as farm labourers.

In a shooting in the same district on Wednesday, eight Hindi-speaking migrants were killed, raising fears that a new wave of attacks could be under way similar to events in January when over 60 labourers were killed.

The police blamed the attacks on two separatist groups, the United Liberation Front of Asom, which has been fighting for an independent homeland since 1979, and the lesser-known Karbi Longri National Liberation Front.—AFP

There are about 30 of those groups in India.. from the Tamil Tigers, to even the Maoists. It's bizzaire.

107 realwest  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:21:43pm

re: #95 Del Dolemonte Hey, welcome aboard LGF!
I can't give you a definitive answer, but my hunch is that the TNR has, as has virtually ALL of the MSM, forgotten all about journalistic integrity (yeah, they were always left leaning, but they used to be HONEST in their reporting.
Sorta like the NYT, WaPo et.al.
As to the TNR in particular, I think the changes in editors is responsible for their incredible and sad fall from an honest media outlet to the garbage can that they now are.

108 raidergirl  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:24:31pm

Raiders Win! Tee Hee

109 SeattleSE  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:28:06pm

re: #65 ornery elephant

OT

I didn't want anyone to miss it tomorrow morning - Tim "IAmADemocrat" Russert has Markos "MyBlogis4Whiners" Moulitsas as a guest on Meet The Press tomorrow.

I used to watch Russert occasionally until the day after President Bush was reelected. I remember seeing him along with Katie Couric and whoever the NBC anchor was at the time on the morning news. It looked like they were at a funeral, just short of openly weeping. It was the most blatantly partisan thing that I think I've ever seen on a network news broadcast. I haven't watched MtP since.

110 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:28:10pm

re: #106 astronmr20

Yeah, you are right, Might not be RoP, getting this mixed up with a similar incident from Kashmir area last night that I read it in the Paki papers too, Hindu migrant workers slain headed to the Kashmir.

This is Assam, over below Bhutan:

GAUHATI, India: A week of violence in India's insurgency-wracked northeast has left 23 people dead, police said, as suspected separatist rebels gunned down a group of migrant workers as they slept and bombed two markets.

A group of gunmen armed with assault rifles entered a village inhabited by mostly Hindi-speaking migrants from other parts of India late Friday and opened fire, killing 11 people, said L.R. Bishnoi, a senior police officer in Assam state.

"They barged into two houses and opened fire at random," he said Saturday. The attack occurred in Dolamora village, some 250 kilometers (155 miles) east of Gauhati, Assam's capital.

Militants often target migrants, who are resented as outsiders representing the federal government far away in New Delhi. The militants say New Delhi, 1,600 kilometers (1,000 miles) to the west, exploits the northeast's rich natural resources while doing little for the indigenous people, most of them ethnically closer to Burma and China than to the rest of India.

Late Friday, militants threw a hand grenade from a moving car into a crowded market, killing a 2-year-old girl and wounding seven others, including the girl's mother, Bishnoi said. Also Friday, a bomb exploded in a market wounding 13 people, including two policemen, he said.

111 UFO TOFU  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:31:08pm

OT
Sorry, I haven't read upthread, but does anyone know whats going on with Air Tahiti at LAX?

112 Thanos  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:31:30pm

HAMAs news

Hamas plans coast guard

GAZA CITY, Aug 11: Hamas’ militia policing Gaza, the Executive Force, on Saturday announced the formation of its new coast guard unit, the Marine Police. Meanwhile, at least 20 demonstrators were injured in clashes with Hamas militants in the northern Gaza Strip sparked by the arrest of around 10 members of the Fatah party, relatives said.

Saber Khalifeh, a spokesman for the Executive Force, said the new body would consist of 150 members and soon begin its operations off the coast of the Gaza Strip.

He said the new force’s main functions would include preventing the smuggling of drugs into Gaza, protecting its fishermen and maintaining security for the residents on the beach.

Hamas had already introduced a new traffic police unit and it would soon open a new internal security agency, officials said.

In Beit Hanun, members of the Executive Force waded in with batons and fired shots in the air when some 150 relatives — mostly women and children — of those rounded up staged protests outside Hamas offices, witnesses said.

The arrests occurred during overnight marriage celebrations, during which some people began singing Fatah nationalistic songs, the witnesses said.

Members of the Executive Force were attacked with stones when they began to intervene.

“Those arrested are accused of disturbing the public order,” said Mr Khalifeh without elaborating.

In the West Bank village of Halhul, police chief Driss Jabari was wounded overnight when unknown gunmen shot him in the legs, according to Palestinian security sources.

The attack took place shortly after Palestinian police arrested about 10 Hamas activists at Halhul and nearby Hebron, the sources said.—Agencies

You want to bet that some of those boats will be armed with Syrian and Iranian missiles?

113 Highrise  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:33:21pm

re: #69 Ginn


re: #48 Ginn

I'm Sick Of It All!

I can't, I can't.

/pretends to be Lefty Troll

Oh the thread down under is real rich tonight. I think the diggers we got down there posting...could get anyone out of a disaster before they lost air. They a huffin and a puffin lol.

114 rappmandu  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:36:58pm

Thanos and realwest,

We'll just have to wait and see. Having brought the heat down on their current hosts, they'll either have to take stock of allied/sympathic warlords or else impose on a new bunch of suckers to take them in. Climate may play a big role, too. They don't have a whole lot of time left for securing places to hibernate before passes are closed.

Interesting read over at N.O., Thanos.

115 astronmr20  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:39:48pm

re: #112 Thanos

HAMAs news

Hamas plans coast guard

GAZA CITY, Aug 11: Hamas’ militia policing Gaza, the Executive Force, on Saturday announced the formation of its new coast guard unit, the Marine Police. Meanwhile, at least 20 demonstrators were injured in clashes with Hamas militants in the northern Gaza Strip sparked by the arrest of around 10 members of the Fatah party, relatives said.

Saber Khalifeh, a spokesman for the Executive Force, said the new body would consist of 150 members and soon begin its operations off the coast of the Gaza Strip.

He said the new force’s main functions would include preventing the smuggling of drugs into Gaza, protecting its fishermen and maintaining security for the residents on the beach.

Hamas had already introduced a new traffic police unit and it would soon open a new internal security agency, officials said.

In Beit Hanun, members of the Executive Force waded in with batons and fired shots in the air when some 150 relatives — mostly women and children — of those rounded up staged protests outside Hamas offices, witnesses said.

The arrests occurred during overnight marriage celebrations, during which some people began singing Fatah nationalistic songs, the witnesses said.

Members of the Executive Force were attacked with stones when they began to intervene.

“Those arrested are accused of disturbing the public order,” said Mr Khalifeh without elaborating.

In the West Bank village of Halhul, police chief Driss Jabari was wounded overnight when unknown gunmen shot him in the legs, according to Palestinian security sources.

The attack took place shortly after Palestinian police arrested about 10 Hamas activists at Halhul and nearby Hebron, the sources said.—Agencies

You want to bet that some of those boats will be armed with Syrian and Iranian missiles?

There won't be any boats. A Hamas "spokeseman" actually was quoted as saying so in a previous story.

I guess they'll just fire rockets at vessels from the beach.

So what are they guarding their coast from? Nothing.. just another "agency" of theirs to ask for money for. "We have a coast guard, but no boats. Is that not sad? Please give us poor Palis more cash so we can buy some boats and guard our coast." And undoubtely, the US or some bitch-stupid european wankers will give it to them.

116 stevieray  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:40:36pm

re: #95 Del Dolemonte

Simple newbie question-the New Republic has been around since my Grandfather was a kid (they set up shop in 1914 as I recall).

Yet they never to my knowledge had any whiff of scandal until the past decade or so. Why is that?

Until about twenty years ago, magazines like TNR were engaged in a war of ideas on the offensive side... they were in the business of selling the new to a public that was, in many circles, eager customers.

Now that modern day liberalism is a spent force and they are stuck with recycling already discredited ideas to a cynical and wary public, they have been forced into a new role... dirt diggers. Their main weapon has changed from ideas to facts.

Ideas are argued about, but facts are checked... a reality that they have not fully appreciated yet.

With their waning influence, a certain desperation has settled over them, and con artists can smell their need... and quickly move in to exploit it. They simply cannot resist the "too good to be true" fairy tales the Beauchamps of the world are selling, and they are too needy to turn them away.

117 Kaintuck  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:40:51pm

This whole debacle brings something to mind:

The New Republic is the cur dog run over by the Bradley Fighting Vehicle while the dog was wearing the piece of the child's skull for adornment, yet its face was melted away from an IED...or something like that.

It lies yelping in the ditch, yet no one comes to help.

I used to pay for a TNR subscription for many years, until their "exclusive report" on the Mob in Youngstown, Ohio referred to:

"He attached a speed loader to his revolver so he could shoot faster."

I demanded my money back and got it.

118 AZfederalist  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:41:36pm
#13 kahall 8/11/2007 9:18:40 pm PDT reply quote report

I cannot stop mispronouncing the guys name when I read the stories.. Is it like Beecham just spelled funnily?

If it's like others with that name, it's really pronounced Bo-shay

/he's still a scum-sucking pinhead, no matter how you pronounce it

119 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:45:09pm

re: #95 Del Dolemonte

Simple newbie question-the New Republic has been around since my Grandfather was a kid (they set up shop in 1914 as I recall).

Yet they never to my knowledge had any whiff of scandal until the past decade or so. Why is that?

The "whiffs" of scandal began back under Andy Sullivan's reign beginning in 1990.

I'm not sure if it had to do with sheer laziness, cronyism, or idiocy.

120 stevieray  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:46:20pm

re: #116 stevieray

That should read "... dirt diggers on their opponents." in the middle.

I should go to bed... I'm too tired to post... but I must continue to follow the previous thread!

121 gabn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:49:57pm

Arabic-themed school principal quits over "Intifada NYC" T-shirts:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/892164.html

Quote from the article:

"The word [intifada] basically means 'shaking off.' That is the root word if you look it up in Arabic," she said.

122 cbinflux  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:51:18pm

Liar

I won't ever leave while you want me to stay
Nothing you could do that would turn me away
Hanging on every word
Believing the things I heard
Being a fool
You've taken my life, so take my soul
That's what you said and I believed it all
I want to be with you as long
As you want me to
I won't move away
Ain't that what you said?
Ain't that what you said?
Ain't that what you said?
Liar, liar, liar
May I see no night
May I see no day
If I ever leave while you want me to stay
You can believe in me
I won't be leaving
I won't let you go
Ain't that what you said?
Ain't that what you said?
Ain't that what you said?
Liar, liar, liar

123 UFO TOFU  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:54:39pm

Never mind, LAX computer malfunction.

124 Highrise  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:55:19pm

re: #121 gabn


I'm so glad there are people that are fighting that school and it's ex principal. Next step is to not allow it to open :) .


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125 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:56:36pm

re: #117 Kaintuck

"He attached a speed loader to his revolver so he could shoot faster."

ROFLMAO!

126 squarepeg  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:57:03pm

Scott is glad he's in the Army now, where TNR can't get him.

127 pat  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:58:13pm

re: #109 SeattleSE

re: #65 ornery elephant

OT

I didn't want anyone to miss it tomorrow morning - Tim "IAmADemocrat" Russert has Markos "MyBlogis4Whiners" Moulitsas as a guest on Meet The Press tomorrow.


I used to watch Russert occasionally until the day after President Bush was reelected. I remember seeing him along with Katie Couric and whoever the NBC anchor was at the time on the morning news. It looked like they were at a funeral, just short of openly weeping. It was the most blatantly partisan thing that I think I've ever seen on a network news broadcast. I haven't watched MtP since.

It was worst than that. It looked like he drank until 3 AM and then cried. It was bizarre. I am glad it was not only I that missed that.

128 pat  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:58:43pm

PIMF, Got that.

129 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:59:01pm

Is this about as close as we're going to get to an open thread tonight? I needed to hear this, and I'm hoping some of y'all might like it.

130 cbinflux  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 10:59:21pm

Spitting in the wind

In Forst, Germany, in May, as a 43-year-old man and a 12-year-old boy vied in a spitting-for-distance contest from a second-story balcony, the grown-up, trying for extra momentum, thrust himself forcefully up to the railing, launched his saliva, and accidentally fell to his death. [Der Spiegel, 6-1-07]

131 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:01:06pm

Of course he's not going to speak. He's a tremendous pussy.

132 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:01:20pm

re: #129 Noam Sayin'

Is this about as close as we're going to get to an open thread tonight? I needed to hear this, and I'm hoping some of y'all might like it.

Listening now..

133 cbinflux  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:01:45pm

Slit in the wind

A burglar was killed trying to sneak into the Maranatha Used Clothing store in Miami on May 31; police said the man had crawled between the blades of a large, idle ventilation fan but that before getting all the way through, he accidentally tripped the "on" switch. [WKMG-TV (Orlando), 6-1-07]

134 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:02:13pm

re: #129 Noam Sayin'

Nice.

135 pat  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:02:58pm

noam, playing now.

136 zorro43  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:03:21pm

re: #12 BingoBunny
It's an old way to infiltrate the army and decay it from within. The commies did it during WWI and helped bring on the revolution.

137 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:04:52pm

The guitar players in the room might want to actually watch.

Pbhbph! What am I saying? The guitar players will naturally watch the video.

*smacks forehead*

138 squarepeg  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:07:34pm

DesertSage, are you there?

If so, is it really true that you're usually right? You made a political prediction one thread back that I'd love to believe in. I think I concur with it, but I've been listening to some very gloomy Republicans lately and I feel I'm slipping...

139 Highrise  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:10:46pm

re: #133 cbinflux

So the next newsstory we'll hear is..Burglar sues business that he broke into ?

hehe

140 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:10:47pm

"The New Republic’s claim that he’s being prevented from communicating"

"We are not preventing him from speaking to TNR or anyone."

Two men say their Jesus, one of them must be wrong..

141 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:12:32pm

The waring lights are flashing down at [TNR's] quality control...

142 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:12:42pm

re: #137 Noam Sayin'

The guitar players in the room might want to actually watch.

Pbhbph! What am I saying? The guitar players will naturally watch the video.

*smacks forehead*

I haven't this in a long time. I'm playing it again.

Thanks

143 Caliredst8r  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:12:51pm

re: #140 Yankee Division Son

Abolish Monday mornings and Friday afternoons!

144 cbinflux  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:13:29pm

re: #139 Highrise

Fine Points of the Law
The New Zealand Herald reported in June that a prostitute may be eligible for worker's compensation based on her having been injured when the car in which she was riding plunged down a hillside. Because the driver was a john who was taking her to a site he had chosen for their encounter, the Prostitutes Collective trade union said hers were "workplace" injuries. [New Zealand Herald, 6-25-07]

Former Brooklyn Center, Minn., car-washer Douglas Williams, 56, was fired last year when, in response to the sales manager's requiring him to clean up litter, he refused, colorfully, by telling the manager to perform an anatomically impossible act. However, the state court of appeals ruled in June that Williams was nonetheless owed unemployment benefits. [Star Tribune (Minneapolis), 6-19-07]

145 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:15:18pm

Some new guitar players will be interested in knowing that Stevie played a unique set of strings. For the 6 and 5 strings, he used the 2 and 1 strings from a bass set, then used the 6, 5, 4, & 3 strings for positions 4, 3, 2, & 1. Although this set up made the guitar much more difficult to play, Stevie liked the tone better than a typical set of guitar strings.

Now, if you consider the vibrato Mr. Vaughan employed, and the incredibly deep bends on some of his guitar solos - particularly in his live work - one gains more appreciation for the effort he put into creating his music.

For the casual listener, it's why you like Stevie Ray, even though you might not be able to explain it.

/music geek

146 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:16:50pm

re: #143 Caliredst8r

re: #140 Yankee Division Son

Abolish Monday mornings and Friday afternoons!

First Jesus says, 'I'll cure it soon'...

147 stevieray  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:18:30pm

re: #145 Noam Sayin'

Thanks! Lots of people like me, and they don't know why!~:^)

148 Highrise  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:19:42pm

re: #144 cbinflux

We have gone insane.

I used to think that people who wanted to live off the grid..so to speak..were insane..I now see why.

Sometimes we are just too crazy..I almost don't believe it.

149 Dustyvet  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:22:35pm

re: #41 Ginn

Scott's counting the dust bunnies under his bed.

More likely counting grains of sand outside his quarters, no dust Bunny's are allowed under Army beds...:)

150 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:24:19pm

re: #145 Noam Sayin'

Some new guitar players will be interested in knowing that Stevie played a unique set of strings. For the 6 and 5 strings, he used the 2 and 1 strings from a bass set, then used the 6, 5, 4, & 3 strings for positions 4, 3, 2, & 1. Although this set up made the guitar much more difficult to play, Stevie liked the tone better than a typical set of guitar strings.

Now, if you consider the vibrato Mr. Vaughan employed, and the incredibly deep bends on some of his guitar solos - particularly in his live work - one gains more appreciation for the effort he put into creating his music.

For the casual listener, it's why you like Stevie Ray, even though you might not be able to explain it.

/music geek

Someone once said that when you are up there on the stage and it's your turn to play... you play for the other musicians... for the really good ones.

151 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:24:48pm

re: #147 stevieray

Hah!

152 Dustyvet  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:25:32pm

re: #149 Dustyvet

re: #41 Ginn


Scott's counting the dust bunnies under his bed.

More likely counting grains of sand outside his quarters, no dust Bunny's are allowed under Army beds...:)

But then on the other hand, he's likely doing every dirty detail his first shirt can find for him to do...wonder if they still have sh** burning detail?

153 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:25:49pm

re: #111 UFO TOFU

OT
Sorry, I haven't read upthread, but does anyone know whats going on with Air Tahiti at LAX?

Local TV said LAX had problems with the immigration computers and all flights are halted.

154 Colonel Panik  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:26:34pm

re: #127 pat

re: #109 SeattleSE

re: #65 ornery elephant
OT

I didn't want anyone to miss it tomorrow morning - Tim "IAmADemocrat" Russert has Markos "MyBlogis4Whiners" Moulitsas as a guest on Meet The Press tomorrow.

I love Mark Levin's nickname for him: Tim "Russet", Mr. Potatohead.


I used to watch Russert occasionally until the day after President Bush was reelected. I remember seeing him along with Katie Couric and whoever the NBC anchor was at the time on the morning news. It looked like they were at a funeral, just short of openly weeping. It was the most blatantly partisan thing that I think I've ever seen on a network news broadcast. I haven't watched MtP since.
It was worst than that. It looked like he drank until 3 AM and then cried. It was bizarre. I am glad it was not only I that missed that.
155 RTLM  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:27:38pm

Scott Beauchamp Declines to Speak to Media Commit Suicide.

156 Colonel Panik  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:27:49pm

Okay, I've had too much wine. PIMF on that last one, I typed right in the middle of the quote.

157 friarstale  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:29:55pm

The Reeves' tale
The Scoop Beauchamp Story
is now in slideshow version
[Link: www.cruxy.com...]

158 Colonel Panik  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:30:27pm

re: #117 Kaintuck


I used to pay for a TNR subscription for many years, until their "exclusive report" on the Mob in Youngstown, Ohio referred to:

"He attached a speed loader to his revolver so he could shoot faster."

I demanded my money back and got it.

ROTFLMAO!

159 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:32:45pm

re: #152 Dustyvet

re: #149 Dustyvet

re: #41 Ginn

Scott's counting the dust bunnies under his bed.

More likely counting grains of sand outside his quarters, no dust Bunny's are allowed under Army beds...:)
But then on the other hand, he's likely doing every dirty detail his first shirt can find for him to do...wonder if they still have sh** burning detail?

I have no idea. According to the TNR.. Beauchamp is being held in confined quarters with duct tape around his mouth and false confessions to sign.

160 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:36:47pm

re: #150 Ginn

Someone once said that when you are up there on the stage and it's your turn to play... you play for the other musicians... for the really good ones.

Particularly true when technique is part of the expression, so notably jazz and blues, also hard rock/metal and other genres. Spandau Ballet wouldn't exactly be included in that group. That being said, musicians do feed off the audience's enthusiasm for their performance, no matter the genre. But when you've played the same song night after night for weeks, even years, on end, you have to bring something to the table that will keep your bandmates involved in the performance. One performer tries to keep it interesting by raising the bar on his/her performance. The Gene Krupa/Buddy Rich drum battle someone linked to late last night is a great example.

161 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:42:14pm

re: #160 Noam Sayin'

re: #150 Ginn

Someone once said that when you are up there on the stage and it's your turn to play... you play for the other musicians... for the really good ones.
Particularly true when technique is part of the expression, so notably jazz and blues, also hard rock/metal and other genres. Spandau Ballet wouldn't exactly be included in that group. That being said, musicians do feed off the audience's enthusiasm for their performance, no matter the genre. But when you've played the same song night after night for weeks, even years, on end, you have to bring something to the table that will keep your bandmates involved in the performance. One performer tries to keep it interesting by raising the bar on his/her performance. The Gene Krupa/Buddy Rich drum battle someone linked to late last night is a great example.

Very true, Noam. I was thinking of jazz/blues where someone mentioned that when it's your turn to "perform" in your group you have to fill an empty space with your music.

I used to date a musician in a very well known rock band. The cool part was when each one would take a turn and show their true talent or "raise the bar" as you say. It was electrifying.

I love music. I love all kinds of music. Without music is without humor or without love.

162 pat  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:42:54pm

Ginn, hope you got the painting done. Sheeesh. Nite.

163 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:48:39pm

re: #161 Ginn

re: #160 Noam Sayin'

re: #150 Ginn

I love music. I love all kinds of music.

Glad to hear you say that. Here's one of my favorite African artists, Ayub Ogada. I'm sure you'll like it. You seem pretty groovy.

Get the ear buds ready, folks. It's a very mellow tune.

164 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:49:42pm

re: #163 Noam Sayin'

Of course. It might help if I actually linked the tune.

Kothbiro

165 zombie  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:50:21pm

Damn will these quakes never end?

That felt small, like a 2.0 or something, but it's getting annoying. That's like the tenth one this year.

166 zombie  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:51:27pm
167 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:51:51pm

So where's this clown's wife?

She hasn't communicated with him? Or she has communicated with him and this is a new TNR exclusive, Hostage in Uniform? This whole damned thing stinks worse than Rather, Mapes, abu's Gunagrabu and how Bush Stole Ramadan.

For the wonderful publicity, albeit mostly under the radar at present, the Army is getting they should have this igit in front of a camera ever damned day.

168 Ginn  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:52:16pm

re: #164 Noam Sayin'

re: #163 Noam Sayin'

Of course. It might help if I actually linked the tune.

Kothbiro

I can use mellow. The lower thread has... done what I needed. Wore me down so now I can sleep.

I broke Charles' rule. Never argue with an idiot.

Night everyone!

169 zombie  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:57:14pm

My heart is still pounding ten minutes later.

It's impossible to get "used to" earthquakes. Every one is just as surprising and scary as the the one before.

i can only hope that the fault is just having a "slow-motion" quake over a period of several months, and it's letting off all the pressure.

170 friarstale  Sat, Aug 11, 2007 11:59:27pm

The Ballad of Scoop Bochamp is now on youtube as well

171 RTLM  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:00:39am

zombie - I didn't feel it.

Lots happening though

172 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:01:57am

Okay folks. Here's another one by Ayub Ogada: Wa Winjigo Ero. The instrument you see him playing here is called a nyatiti. This version, live, is not as soulful as the studio recording on the album, En Mana Kyuoyo, on which you'll also find Kothbiro.

I have no monetary interest in the artist or his recordings. Just thought if you liked it, you'd want to know where to get some more.

173 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:03:19am
174 friarstale  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:03:29am

re: #169 zombie

I'm not a Californian, but I was in the Navy stationed at Mare Island in 1989, and got to feel the power 'round about October

I was on a barge in the Sacramento River. I felt a large wake, and looked out the window to see what had gone by. There was nothing there.
Then one of the guys said it was an earthquake. Yeah, right.
At first I didn't believe it, but then, duh, put two and two together.

175 Highrise  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:03:49am

I'm curious to know his parents' background. I would die if my kid grew up to do this. I can't imagine.

176 Resistance Girl  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:04:00am

re: #165 zombie

Damn will these quakes never end?

That felt small, like a 2.0 or something, but it's getting annoying. That's like the tenth one this year.

That's how you can tell you're a true Californian...you can guess if it's a 2.0 or in the general vicinity.

Or you know the varieties...a roller, a jerky one, etc.

177 zombie  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:05:24am

re: #171 RTLM

zombie - I didn't feel it.

I'm like "the princess and the pea" -- I sense every little tremor.

If i could have chosen any supernatural ability, this would definitely have not been it. Invisibility would have been nice.

178 Carridine  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:11:46am

Excerpt from the first draft of

"Heaving Hot Hype!"
...
'The Baghdad Bum, Beauchamp'


"... except that the terms of his Article 15 required him to pick up cigarette butts and dry dog doo-doo another -he checked his wristwatch- 73 minutes!

"Zeesh! This sun is murder, even if it IS behind clouds and about to set! I wonder what ol' "Fantastic Freakin' Frankie" Foer is doing about this?"

The self-styled 'Titan of Truth' and infamous 'Baghdad Bum' knelt to pick up yet another... yukky thing... and dropped it in his black plastic bag.

"He's sure to be cranking out the vitriol, embellishing embers until they burst into flaccid, frantic flame... waitaminnit... uhm..."

There before him as he raised his head and stood up, was First Sergeant, a true America-loving idiot, dyed olive-drab and with Army-issue brains!

"Beauch'mp!" he shouted, making it sound ALMOST like BeauchUmp, but just hazy enough that he couldn't be caught for harassing The Titan of Truthiness.

"Yes, First Sergeant?" I said, meekly he answered clearly.

"Beauchamp, how'd you like to sing castrato the rest of your life?"

He was about to put the lifer-beggar-POS in his place when Major Mel Phenction came around the corner, straight for The Titan of Trooth -dang!- TRUTH!

179 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:12:46am

re: #173 cbinflux

Nearly over the line.

/But I laughed my ass off.

180 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:13:57am

Fried my air conditioner today.

Good thing it's August - when it almost never gets hot in Minnesota.

181 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:16:21am

re: #177 zombie

If i could have chosen any supernatural ability, this would definitely have not been it. Invisibility would have been nice.

Oh, zombie, be careful what you wish for!

I developed that superpower in my old age. Problem is, I have very little control over it. It really kicks in when I'm trying to get the attention of a department store salesperson or when I'm shopping in the market.

"OUCH! That was my TOE you just ran over with your cart!"

"Sorry! I didn't see you..."

/I AM STANDING UP!

182 Geepers  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:18:24am

littleoldlady (#181),

You're up early.

183 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:19:46am

Geepers! :-)

Becoming my "normal" time, unfortunately. :-(

How are you?

184 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:21:46am

G'mornin'

Where's the Cranky Flakes?

185 RTLM  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:22:29am

re: #177 zombie

if I were invisible...

I'd fight crime.

186 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:23:48am

re: #184 cbinflux

Veh iz mir. Too early, cbinflux!

/first cuppa; eyes, hands and brain haven't engaged yet...

'Morning. :-)

187 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:24:05am

Air Sex - the sex version of air guitar

Japanese marriages and birthrates are falling

188 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:25:01am

re: #185 RTLM

re: #177 zombie

if I were invisible... I'D BEAT SOME SENSE INTO MOOBATS!

I'd fight crime.

189 sireverlast  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:28:19am

Well, at least he got busted down for this crap. Again. Hello PVT (E-1) Beauchamp!

190 RTLM  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:28:22am

Moo!

191 Caliredst8r  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:28:51am

re: #146 Yankee Division Son

Yeah, great song, great band!

192 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:36:12am

re: #184 cbinflux

G'mornin'

Where's the Cranky Flakes?

On the last thread.

193 Highrise  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:37:33am

re: #192 Noam Sayin'

I don't know how some people truly feed themselves at their meals...being that stupid.

194 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:39:40am

re: #192 Noam Sayin'

re: #184 cbinflux


G'mornin'

Where's the Cranky Flakes?


On the last thread.

Ruh roh. Was there misbehavin', Noam?

195 Geepers  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:39:59am

zombie,

I was perusing the LGF dictionary and want to make a correction/update on "Balestinian". Mr Pol popularized that. It simply comes from the lack of the palestinians using a spoken "p" sound such that when uttered it comes out sounding like "balestine".

196 Highrise  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:43:01am

re: #194 littleoldlady

there is someone there that thought it prudent to come out with both guns blazing that we are hypocrits..and they hate christians. Oh and they are a ron paul supporter lol.

Sums it up pretty much, truly. Anything else the idiot has come up with is trying to act like they actually wanted to converse...I think you have seen the type.

197 jcr  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:43:50am

I wonder, do the other soldiers in his unit have a cause of action for libel against him? Losing a couple hundred grand in court might serve as a warning to any future John Kerrys who are considering enlisting to jump-start a political career.

-jcr

198 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:44:01am

re: #194 littleoldlady

re: #192 Noam Sayin'

re: #184 cbinflux


G'mornin'Where's the Cranky Flakes?


On the last thread.

Ruh roh. Was there misbehavin', Noam?

Shit. Last I checked, there still is.

Couple of know-it-all assholes trying to school the lizard consortium on the real answers for the world's problems. You know the drill.

199 Geepers  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:44:06am

littleoldlady (#183),

Pretty crappy, but then I think about how much worse things could be.

Now I'm off to find some sack time.

'Night all. :-)

200 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:45:33am

re: #197 jcr

Huh? What?

Oh!

Way to bring us back on topic, newbie.

For that, you can have my fruitcup.

201 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:49:49am

re: #196 Highrise

I have seen [shudder!] every type. Thanks for the summary. :-)

202 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:51:00am

re: #199 Geepers

Geepers! :-( I'm sorry to hear that.

On the other hand, if THAT'S your "sack time"...

203 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:53:20am
204 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:53:25am

re: #198 Noam Sayin'

/averts eyes.

Not in the mood for omniscient World Problem Solvers™ at the moment...

205 freedomplow  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:53:44am

I can't believe Rick Moran fell for the AP headline.

This line came directly from the AP after their headline:

WASHINGTON (AP) - Frequent tours for U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have stressed the all-volunteer force and made it worth considering a return to a military draft, President Bush's new war adviser said Friday.


Notice the Editorial? No quotes.

Bush War Adviser Says Draft Worth a Look

Now we have some quotes...

"I think it makes sense to certainly consider it," Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said in an interview with National Public Radio's "All Things Considered."

"And I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table. But ultimately, this is a policy matter between meeting the demands for the nation's security by one means or another," Lute added in his first interview since he was confirmed by the Senate in June.

Obviously The AP left out the question that was asked of Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute.

The AP could have asked one of a thousand (what-if) questions before Lute's response. (The AP did not publish the question).

Example: AP reporter... Would you ever consider a draft?

Rick Moran, this post is to help you understand how the MSM works.

206 bosforus  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:53:58am

re: #197 jcr

I wonder, do the other soldiers in his unit have a cause of action for libel against him? Losing a couple hundred grand in court might serve as a warning to any future John Kerrys who are considering enlisting to jump-start a political career.

-jcr

does it count as libel if nobody believed him?

207 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:58:03am

re: #198 Noam Sayin'

the real answers for the world's problems


The brilliant and multi-talented Hugh Laurie came the closest to THE answers.

208 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:59:53am

re: #204 littleoldlady

re: #198 Noam Sayin'

/averts eyes.

Not in the mood for omniscient World Problem Solvers™ at the moment...

It's nearly fruitcup time, anyway.

The omniscient world problem solvers are being dealt with...

by an ever-refreshing string of waking lizards.

I bid you good night, lizards.

209 Pythagoras  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:00:20am

What just amazes me about this whole thing is that the left isn't learning the lesson that EVERY ONE of these scandals teaches.

"Implausible lies don't work any more."

You'd think by now they'd realize that if you're gonna make something up, it can't be something easily disproved.

Remember, if Rather had used good forgeries, or even mediocre ones, his career would be intact. Similarly, we can catch stupid photoshop jobs -- really good ones might work. Also, you can't report a scene from Titanic as news. (The last one is really funny.)

There should be a special Darwin Award for people who stupidly kill their careers with lame lies.

210 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:03:39am

'Night Noam :-)

211 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:08:54am

All We Gotta Do

His SNL version was much better, a masters version.

212 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:12:13am

New Orleans politician faces graft charges: report

HOUSTON (Reuters) - A prominent New Orleans city councilman who had said he would run for mayor in 2010 is expected to plead guilty on Monday to federal corruption charges, a newspaper reported on Saturday.

Councilman Oliver Thomas reached a plea bargain agreement with U.S. prosecutors investigating corruption in the city's government, the New Orleans Times-Picayune, citing unnamed sources, said in its online edition.

//No way!

213 Carl in Jerusalem  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:14:07am

Good Morning Dead Threaders!

Littleoldlady - I am going to the Raanana - Beit Shemesh baseball game tomorrow night. Who is your 'son' and how do I find him? (You can email me privately about this if you want). IBL games are very casual and it is possible to go up to the players' bench and to ask to speak with someone.

And for all of you, how about this: Al-Aqsa terrorist caught with ammunition and released

214 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:15:24am

Stench of corpses hampers Lebanon soldiers in grisly camp battle

NAHR AL-BARED, Lebanon (AFP) - Lebanese soldiers are being hampered in their fight against holed-up Islamist militants by the stench of putrefying corpses, army and medical sources said on Saturday.

An officer on the ground who requested anonymity told AFP that the rotting corpses littering the devastated Nahr Al-Bared refugee camp had made the air there unbreathable.

A hospital source said several soldiers had been admitted due to severe vomiting.

215 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:16:25am

re: #213 Carl in Jerusalem

Permanent Amnesty?

216 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:17:12am

re: #209 Pythagoras

What's even worse is that they have no clue about the scope of damage they have wrought unto to themselves.

My "son" (a bright boy, just graduated college) told me a year or so ago that he has ceased believing anything he hears or reads in the "news".

Somebody my age who has read newspapers and watched newscasts for decades is likely to have a hard time giving it all up. But the kids? No reason for them to form those habits if there's no credibility.

They've killed their own market.

/Prophet of Doom

217 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:21:26am

Speaking of my "son"... :-)

Hi Carl! How do I email?

218 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:26:10am

US declares Lebanese group terrorists

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration has blacklisted as a "foreign terrorist organization" a Lebanese Islamist group blamed for major fighting at a refugee camp, the Associated Press has learned.

The State Department is expected to announce the designation against al-Qaida-inspired Fatah al-Islam, which is suspected of having links with Syria, on Monday.

The designation imposes financial and travel restrictions on the group and its members, officials said Saturday, speaking on condition of anonymity because the designation is not yet public.

/No worries, Mohammed, Blacklistees get 30% from the US and UN.

219 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:27:44am

Carl,

"Nevermind!" © Emily Litella

/found it. it would help if I would read, eh?

220 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:28:01am

re: #217 littleoldlady

[Link: israelmatzav.blogspot.com...]

You can contact me at: IsraelMatzav at gmail dot com

221 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:28:38am

pimf

30% MORE

222 cbinflux  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:29:24am

G'nite

223 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:44:38am

'Night cbinflux! :-)

Carl,

email sent!

/I love the internut

224 RTLM  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:45:51am

The inner-nut?

225 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 1:50:25am
226 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:00:22am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup and baseball cards are on the buffet --->
(Don't eat the cards.)
Help yourselves!

227 RTLM  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:00:54am

Hello dead thread

228 Carl in Jerusalem  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:01:04am
229 DistantThunder  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:01:30am

Good morning, Lizards.

Congratulations to Mitt Romney...the only front runner who is pro-life.

230 Carl in Jerusalem  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:01:54am

re: #215 cbinflux

re: #213 Carl in Jerusalem

Permanent Amnesty?

That sure seems to be the case unfortunately. At least until the next 'significant' terror attack.

231 Carl in Jerusalem  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:03:38am

re: #225 littleoldlady

Sometimes you feel like a nut; sometimes you don't.

Haven't seen that commercial in a while...

232 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:09:00am

Carl,

But how come we are bearing two thirds of the cost of this? I know that we receive considerably less than two thirds of the foreign aid the US hands out every year...

If "we" took it out of Egypt's 2 billion you'd get a new defintion of "squeaky wheel".

233 RTLM  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:12:40am

Fly me to the moon: space hotel sees 2012 opening

Sinatra version

234 toddrundgren  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:14:53am

Beauchimp is as quiet as Ron Dellums.

236 RTLM  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:37:43am

620/35

237 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:42:30am

17.71?

238 RTLM  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:45:58am

re: #237 littleoldlady

17.71?

Hi littleoldlady :)
Just a shout to the 30 some folks with ability
-

239 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:49:07am

Should I have taken out the calculator?

All I have is a pen that's not working very well.

/plus I'm caffeine deficient - still.

240 Carridine  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 2:49:18am

re: #214 cbinflux

A hospital source said several soldiers had been admitted due to severe vomiting.

CB, a little-discussed aspect of my 12-day stint as volunteer after the Christmas Tsunami...

The dead in the sun decompose rapidly...

241 howco  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:00:55am

I know this thread is about that Beauchump guy but I could'nt help but chime in with something about this Ron Paul guy.

Is it me or does it seem like this guy should be selling pocket fishermen reels on late night T.V.?

242 Carridine  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:04:18am

"Heaving Hot Hype!" ...OR... 'Beauchamp, The Baghdad Bum'

First Draft, cont'd.-

The self-styled 'Titan of Truth' and infamous 'Baghdad Bum' knelt to pick up yet another... yukky thing... and dropped it in his black plastic bag, vaguely aware that BOTH ends were filthy, but not conscious of the IMPORTANCE of that observation...

"Freakin Frankie Foer's sure to be cranking out the vitriol, embellishing embers of taut, titillating truth until they burst into flaccid, frantic flame... waitaminnit... that's not... uhm..."

There before him as he raised his head and stood up, was First Sergeant, a true America-loving idiot, dyed olive-drab and with Army-issue brains! God, how I He loathed him a lot.

"Beauch'mp!" he shouted, making it sound ALMOST like BeauchUmp, but just hazy enough that he couldn't be caught for harassing The Titan of Truthiness.

"Yes, First Sergeant?" I said, meekly he answered clearly.

"Beauchamp, how'd you like to sing castrato the rest of your life?"

He was about to put the lifer-beggar-POS in his place when Major Mel Phunction came around the corner, straight for The Titan of Trooth -dang!- TRUTH!

"Soldier," he said in his low, obviously closet-homo voice, "I asked the First Sergeant to remind you that you MAY use the Morale Phone, in your turn, as normal. Any questions?"

A hundred wild, crazy thoughts ran through my mind as I pictured 'using' the phone... there... in the Day Room... (pant-pant!)...

"Sir, no sir!"

He turned after I saluted his ass him, then turned back as I raised my voice, "Sir, do I HAFTA call The National Review?"

-to be continued-

243 gettinby  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:06:09am

Hello everyone!

Fruitcup with baseball cards? Wow! How come I don't see any cards of our illustrous Tampa Bay Devil Rays?

/who would want one? ;)
//who came up with such a horrible team name?

Update from the Tampa Tribune on the USF "firecracker" students. I live very near Temple Terrace...

FBI Search Linked to Jailed Students

Toward the end of the article...

The Megaheds said in a statement that they have faith in the justice system and continue to cooperate with law enforcement. The family is originally from Egypt, but they said they love the United States and consider it home.

/a little taqqiya with your morning coffee?

244 Carridine  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:07:46am

re: #242 Carridine

Screw up the punchline much?

"Sir, do I HAFTA call The New Republic?"

/wondering if IowaHawk ever has daze like this?

245 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:10:34am
246 gettinby  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:19:26am

re: #245 ploome hineni

Damn!

Does anyone at our State Dept. or the WH see or read any of this?

My emails to them are obviously NOT working. :(

247 gettinby  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:37:07am

Uh, oh. Did I kill it?

248 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:39:44am

re: #247 gettinby

Uh, oh. Did I kill it?

We're all speechless over your "Hope Springs Eternal" emails to the State Department.

/don't worry. only one or two of us are giggling...

;-)

249 Carridine  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:42:19am

And for all you Intelligent Insouciant Insomniacs, the MP3 version!

/Morning, Lil Olde Ladye!

250 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:42:51am

Karridine! :-)

251 Carridine  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:44:38am
"...Hizb'ullah ...rebuilds its defences..."


It wouldn't NEED defences if it WOULDN'T ATTACK!

252 gettinby  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:48:34am

re: #248 littleoldlady

*whew*

Giggling can be good for the soul?

My mother once said she figured out her purpose in life...to set a bad example.

Looks as though I may be following in her footsteps! LOL

253 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:51:48am

re: #252 gettinby

re: #248 littleoldlady

*whew*

Giggling can be good for the soul?

My mother once said she figured out her purpose in life...to set a bad example.

Looks as though I may be following in her footsteps! LOL

I think my mother thinks that setting a bad example is MY purpose in life. Gives HER something to do.

;-)

254 Carridine  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:58:38am

Could I possibly interest either of the late-night readers here to critique my "Heaving Hot Hype"? (upthread a few comments or in the MP3 linked)

/thanks in advance

255 gettinby  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:00:11am

re: #253 littleoldlady

LOL

Moms can be challenging at times.

She always threatened and wished out loud to me that I would end up with children who are just like me...that that would be her revenge.

Amazingly, for no apparent reason, I never could get pregnant.

Guess she scared me enough! LOL

256 Carl in Jerusalem  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:01:41am
257 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:07:06am

re: #255 gettinby

She always threatened and wished out loud to me that I would end up with children who are just like me...that that would be her revenge.

Naturally. The standard M.O.M. threat. Scared me too until I had meannastyteenager and realized I had a kid just like my MOTHER!

/bad karma..bad, BAD karma! ;-)

Karridine,

Cracked me up!

/as you always do... :-)

258 little blessing  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:09:27am

re: #257 littleoldlady

Oh that one was good, real good!

259 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:13:43am

re: #258 little blessing

See what you have to look forward to? ;-)

260 gettinby  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:18:18am

re: #254 Carridine

Will have to listen to it later...Mr.GBy, as usual, has all 3 tvs on with the news which limits my listening to anything.

Your brief written bits are hysterically funny...sometimes it's good to have someone like beachaump around...whatever decisions they make, you know to do the opposite! LOL

261 gettinby  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:20:36am

re: #257 littleoldlady

You are sooo funny!

/giggling may be good for the soul, but outloud laughter is part of the cure. Thanks for that!

262 TimeQuake  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:23:22am

Mourning, uh mean, morning.

Christianity Sucks and Islam is Awesome?

Yes, the postmodern reality stylists are working their butts off trying to convince us TV-addled cattle of two primary things: 1) violent jihad is not based on the Koran and 2) All conservative Christians are theocrats ready to burn Sully Erna at the stake, stone Jay Alexander in a nearby gravel pit and governmentally ramrod Christianity down everyone’s pie hole.

263 gettinby  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:30:49am

The Yangtze River Dolphin extinct?

The Yangtze River dolphin is now almost certainly extinct, making it the first dolphin that humans drove to extinction, scientists have now concluded after an intense search for the endangered species.

/I wonder how long before President Bush and his not signing the Kyoto is blamed.

264 little blessing  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:32:32am

re: #259 littleoldlady

I can live with miniatures of my mother (I hope) but what happens if they turn out like my mother in law?!?!

265 gettinby  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:32:48am

Oh, and by the way, fwiw...

NONIC

I miss you and your posts!

266 little blessing  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:37:57am

re: #263 gettinby

"In the past, you had this out-of-control whaling that still didn't result in any extinctions, but these accidental deaths, which are much less visible to people, are much more insidious," Taylor said.

I can see the Japanese gleefully planning their next "research expedition".

267 deacon  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:40:33am

Here is what TNR is saying.

A Scott Beauchamp Update

What's more, the Army has rejected our requests to speak to Beauchamp himself, on the grounds that it wants "to protect his privacy."

Scott Beauchamp is currently a 23-year-old soldier in Iraq who, for the past 15 days, has been prevented by the military from communicating with the outside world, aside from three brief and closely monitored phone calls to family members.

Of course, if I remember correctly, all military phone calls are monitored, so this is not unique.

268 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:42:19am

Laughing on the outside; crying on the inside...

Just one example of how wicked my child is: We had a rough senior year - lots of fighting, etc. She'd get up in the morning and I'd say, "Good morning!" Her response? "F*** YOU!"

Okay, so she's not a morning person. And everyone tells me they all act like that - it's a preparation for separation thing.

By the time she was walking out to go to school each morning, instead of "good bye, have a nice day" I was telling her, "Have I told you yet today that I CANNOT WAIT until you go to college?"

Fine. Just as I was starting to get used to the abuse, a complete turnaround occurred! This summer meannastyteenager has morphed into misssweetnessandlight! Now, of course, I really like being with her - we're having the best time together. (Last time we got along this well she was 8!)

She's leaving in 18 days. :-(

EVIL. Pure evil.

Think I'll go stick my head in the oven...

/it's electric!

Good day, ALL!™

269 storagemanager  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:45:47am
MIRANSHAH, Pakistan -- Islamic extremists killed two Afghan nationals accused of being US spies in the restive Pakistani tribal belt Sunday, officials said.

The beheaded and limbless body of an Afghan national, identified as Habibur Rehman, was found in waste ground near Miranshah, the main town in North Waziristan, a security official said.

"The militants beheaded the man, and also chopped off his legs and arms," the official said, requesting anonymity.

A note placed near the body said people should know "this is the fate of those who spy for American forces," he said.

[Link: www.metimes.com...]

270 gettinby  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:47:19am

re: #268 littleoldlady

Bye littleoldlady.

/could she be doing this on purpose, just to make you crazy?
//just kidding...but what a dilemma!

271 Beckula  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:55:42am

Fox news just ran a story on the Iowa straw poll, and they totally edited the results. Here is how they had it on the TV:

Mitt Romney
Mike Huckabee
Sam Brownback
Tommy Thompson
Fred Thompson
Rudy Giuliani
Duncan Hunter
John McCain
John Cox

Notice anything missing? Now, for the record, I don't know who I am supporting yet and I'm certainly NOT for Ron Paul, but to skip the fourth place winner...Tancredo and even the improbable Ron Paul at 5th just smacks of the news engineering we complain so much about from other media. Just give us the truth damn it!

And to think for a minute I thought LGF got it wrong! I know, I should have known better.

272 storagemanager  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 4:58:39am

Who is Ron Paul?

273 Pythagoras  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:05:19am

#216 LittleOldLady

It's sad but I think this damage had to occur. The media had credibility they didn't deserve and this gave them power to do great harm.

Truth works differently in the 21st century. Any article without links or other supporting evidence simply cannot be trusted. There can be sources you just trust straight up but that trust must be earned.

Hopefully your son was equally skeptical of his professors. He needs to be skeptical of all humans. He's better off now.

274 Beckula  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:05:21am

re: #272 storagemanager

LOL storagemanager, but it's the point of it all. I started watching Fox news because of the lying through omission from the other news networks. Now they are going to resort to the same tactics?

275 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:08:16am

So, TNR says that Beauchamp is prevented from speaking to them and says that his calls are being closely monitored, while the Army says that he's free to use communications as all other soldiers, which is generally monitored pursuant to operational security requirements. Why does TNR think that their statement will hold up to scrutiny?

Beauchamp doesn't want to speak to media requests? Why has he gotten so timid and shy all of a sudden? After all, he had so much to say about his daily life in the war zone. And before the war zone. And in his own mind's eye. Now? Not so much when more media outlets come calling to get more of his take on things. Oh so curious.

276 deacon  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:18:44am

re: #275 lawhawk

I do not think it would be difficult for TNR to get in touch with Beauchamp if they really wanted. The military could not prevent him from contacting his wife, and his wife does work for TNR. So Beauchamp could easily get a message to them if he wanted to.

277 loflyer  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:26:32am

Morning fellow lizards, 75 degree's in sunny ATL, We have a cold wave coming in, its only going up to 95 today!
If the libertarians would update their platform to incorporate modern realities such as a war on terror, global economy and nuclear weapons held by dictators, then they might get somewhere. I have many libertarians beliefs such as the smallest government to get the job done, privacy rights of individuals, and strict adherence to the constitution. But the isolationist, naive rhetoric of Ron Paul makes as little sense as the democrats who now refuse to utter the word "terrorist" out of fear of offending Jihad "activists".
As for the TNR Beauchamp fiasco. TNR got caught allowing their liberal left "War is not the answer" ideology get the best of them, and like Dan Rather of 60 minutes, used "fact checking" questions on sources that were deliberately designed to reinforce the allegations made by Beauchamp or Dan Rather. Instead of asking questions that would provide evidence that the allegations were false, they ask questions only to prove they are right. Thus the media can claim they fact checked their sources (remember the AP's Capt. Jamil?) and irresponsibly publish whatever anti-American tripe (Remember Newsweek's Koran flushing inspired riots that killed at least 10 including a couple of nuns?) they can conceive of. Western journalism. No wonder we trust a used car salesman more than CNN.

278 Retread  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:27:40am

#276 lawhawk

Sounds like he's ducking TNR, doesn't it?

Or they have spoken to him and aren't telling us, which wouldn't surprise me.

279 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:27:43am

re: #276 deacon

Absolutely true. Which makes one wonder why TNR would ever think that their statement on the matter would hold up to the slightest scrutiny.

280 TimeQuake  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:33:00am

August Meteor Shower Will Be 'A Great Show'

This is tonight. Low NE sky. For free.

281 reine.de.tout  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:33:05am

re: #13 kahall

I cannot stop mispronouncing the guys name when I read the stories.. Is it like Beecham just spelled funnily?

It is pronouced Beecham. Here in Louisiana where David is pronounced "Dah-veed", and Hebert is pronounced "A-bear", Beauchamp is pronounced as "Beecham". Odd, but that's the way it is. I'm glad they finally got it right. Every time somebody said "Bow-sham", I got a serious eye-to-ear-to-brain glitch, since I would see "Beauchamp", and I would think "Beecham", and then I would hear "Bow-sham" and know that it was wrong. About drove me crazy.

282 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:33:55am

Islam v Economics 101- Economics wins again!

Fertilizer shortages hamper rocket fire

Shortages in fertilizers used by Palestinian terror groups in the Gaza Strip to produce makeshift rockets have led to a decrease in the number of rockets fired towards Israel.
...

The shortages have been blamed on Egypt's clampdown on smugglers operating along the border with the Gaza Strip and Israel's closure of border crossings used to transfer goods into the coastal territory.
...
The price of a kilo of fertilizer rose from $20 to $50.

Palestinian activists confirmed the shortages to Ynet but said they still had large quantities of rockets stored in secret caches.

"In addition to the smugglings, our people are producing a similar substitute. But the shortages also apply to materials we use to produce fertilizers and substitutes to it and therefore there is a crisis and the situation is difficult," one activist said.

The shortage led Hamas gunmen to storm the Fatah-affiliated al-Azhar University where they confiscated dozens of kilos of fertilizers.

Terror groups also face shortages in steel used to build the rockets. The price of a steel rod rose from NIS 120 to NIS 800.

"God willing our men will find other alternatives. The most important thing is that the resistance remains unharmed. Thank God we have brilliant brains in the Strip," another activist said.

So it is that the entire population of the Gaza Strip suffers so a few lunatics can fire rockets and terrorize a few Jews. Since all of Gaza now operates under the principles of pure Islamic Law, every single decision made by Hamas is moral and unquestionable by the million hostages to a government that has millions to spend a war it cannot win while the people cannot buy the most basic of necessities.

This is the definition of evil done in G-d's name.

283 deacon  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:38:39am

re: #279 lawhawk


completely agree. I am thinking that their statement was issued only for their base which would not really bother with using logic and facts. I can see the conspiracy/anti-military crowd now "They are preventing the truth from coming out"

284 deacon  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:39:28am

re: #282 Ayatollah Ghilmeini


Just maybe God has given them the answer by causing the shortages.

285 thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:46:42am

re: #282 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

"In addition to the smugglings, our people are producing a similar substitute. But the shortages also apply to materials we use to produce fertilizers and substitutes to it and therefore there is a crisis and the situation is difficult," one activist said.

You think that's how the sewage dam burst?

286 loflyer  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:48:35am

My guess is that Beauchamp has listened to his options, and if he wants an honorable discharge, then he better keep his mouth shut and lay off the "sea stories". Beauchamp looks like a total F-up and probably doesn't have a lot of friends in his unit. I would imagine that Beauchamp is getting the crap-details and the rest of his unit is giving him the cold shoulder. I would not be surprised to hear in the next couple of months that he attempts suicide. Perhaps the best solution, especially for Beauchamp is the military to discharge him "for the good of the service."

287 Roger  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:50:59am

re: #282 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

From link:

our people are producing a similar substitute.

Yea but feces don't have near the umph.

288 docremulac  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:53:33am

Let's face it, there's big money on the table to anybody who can sell out their brothers in arms to the massive leftist propaganda machine. Let's look at an imaginary study.

Say if Corporal Remulac goes to Iraq, isn't well liked by his fellows and has no
scruples whatsoever and is in fact, sympathetic to the "Religion of the Bottom Line" (the progre$$ive$) he can do one of two things: 1- Serve his tour and when he's finished, get a job like the rest of us. Or... 2- he can make up some stories about soldiers raping dogs in the streets, spitting on old ladies and giving wedgies to terrorists. Here's the payoff. For starters, he'll start getting development deals from publishers who will keep him in nice hotels with a pretty good per-diem while he runs around telling fairy tales about how Americans are the real enemy of the world and muslim insurgents are just misunderstood. If he's got an agent, he can get paid for exclusives with various media sources, the payment being kept secret as they usually are in such deals and then he can put out a book or get a piece of a book somebody else writes for him. If he's really savvy, he can then get big bucks doing the university America haters tour circuit. That can bring in tens of thousands of dollars a pop and the overhead for such a tour is practically nothing.

Every group has immoral assholes, the military FAR fewer than the rest of the population, but they're still there. I'm amazed more turncoats haven't haven't signed creative writing development deals with the devil.

289 Roger  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 5:53:39am

re: #284 deacon

They don't know G-d and allah is a fickle bastard.

290 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:10:16am

Good Morning Y'all! From a warm (74 degrees, going up to 94 degrees) and sunn Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?!

291 Roger  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:11:17am

Hitler was going to run out of chromium in 1946 and wouldn't be able to make any more ball bearings. No one[of the Allies] was going to give him chromium. How much you want to bet against a Western country supplying the Baalestinians with all the fertilizer they think they need?

292 thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:12:07am

re: #286 loflyer

My guess is that Beauchamp has listened to his options, and if he wants an honorable discharge, then he better keep his mouth shut and lay off the "sea stories". Beauchamp looks like a total F-up and probably doesn't have a lot of friends in his unit. I would imagine that Beauchamp is getting the crap-details and the rest of his unit is giving him the cold shoulder. I would not be surprised to hear in the next couple of months that he attempts suicide. Perhaps the best solution, especially for Beauchamp is the military to discharge him "for the good of the service."

Yep, he's probably getting the same treatment the "Jonah" did in the movie Master and Commander, but unlike the Jonah, Scott's probable ostracism is well-deserved.

293 thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:13:19am

I was perusing Google earth, and since my last hunt through the Karakorum there have been a lot of pictures spotted on the map. It's stunning country, check this out

[Link: www.panoramio.com...]

294 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:14:01am

re: #292 thanos Hey good morning to you my friend! How are you today?

295 thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:14:53am

re: #294 realwest

re: #292 thanos Hey good morning to you my friend! How are you today?


Doing well, is that cortisone shot you got helping friend?

296 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:18:34am

re: #295 thanos Well, it was a cortisone epidural but yes indeedy it is! Took away about 90% of all my pain! And I was really surprised cause the first cortisone epidural didn't do a damn thing to relieve my pain, but the second one really, truly worked!
Thanks for asking!

297 lucius septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:19:25am

Mornin' all. See folks are still over grumbling on the "straw poll" thread. But the cool folk are over here.

Must make coffee.

298 thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:20:08am

re: #296 realwest

re: #295 thanos Well, it was a cortisone epidural but yes indeedy it is! Took away about 90% of all my pain! And I was really surprised cause the first cortisone epidural didn't do a damn thing to relieve my pain, but the second one really, truly worked!
Thanks for asking!


It's heartening to hear that, glad to hear that something is helping

299 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:21:19am

re: #297 lucius septimius Morning back atacha!
Yep, the cool kids are over here (the cool kids always hang out wherever I'm hanging out! LOL!) and I don't know why the folks on the prior thread are so worked up about the Iowa Straw thread. I really don't get it, at all.

300 zenren  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:21:50am

OT - Islamists urge caliphate revival

Some 100,000 Islamists have met in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta, to press for the re-establishment of a caliphate across the Muslim world...{more}

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

301 Roger  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:22:02am

re: #297 lucius septimius

Where is your sense of humor?

/I just had to post my joke there:-)

302 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:23:36am

re: #298 thanos Boy, me too! 5 months of pain (althought the first month's pain was from the shingles) and I was out of options if the pain management doctor couldn't help me.
Um, it's not that I don't always enjoy chatting with you, cause I do, but where the hell is everyone else today?!

303 shug  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:24:05am

re: #290 realwest

Good Morning Y'all! From a warm (74 degrees, going up to 94 degrees) and sunn Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?!

I'm great.

I am going to be in your fine city this tuesday.

OK, it's on a 90 minute layover waiting for my flight to St. Maarten, but hey, I'll be there

any tips on how to kill 90 minutes in charlotte?

304 Roger  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:24:47am

re: #296 realwest

Ah! Found the threshold that works! Now if you can find the time and opportunity to do something you're been neglecting that lifts your spirits while the hounds of pain of been held at bay.

305 thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:25:49am

re: #300 zenren

OT - Islamists urge caliphate revival


Some 100,000 Islamists have met in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta, to press for the re-establishment of a caliphate across the Muslim world...{more}

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Why is it always London suckling vipers?

Today it has a mainly clandestine following in the Middle East, a large presence in Central Asia - where hundreds of its members have been jailed - and active supporters in the West, including London, which is believed to be one of its main bases.

Many experts see it as ideologically close to jihadist groups, and suspect its commitment to peaceful means is purely tactical.

306 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:25:50am

re: #301 Roger
Hey Roger, good morning to y'all! Um, I quickly perused the last 50 or so comments over at the straw poll thread and was wondering what joke you're talking about?!

307 shug  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:26:23am

Does it get any better than this? I'll find out on Tuesday

A cold beer
topless women
and this

308 thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:26:30am

re: #303 shug

re: #290 realwest


Good Morning Y'all! From a warm (74 degrees, going up to 94 degrees) and sunn Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?!

I'm great.

I am going to be in your fine city this tuesday.

OK, it's on a 90 minute layover waiting for my flight to St. Maarten, but hey, I'll be there

any tips on how to kill 90 minutes in charlotte?


Get some chocolate while there, they have the Belgium varieties!

309 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:27:37am

re: #303 shug Hey shug! Um is that 90 minutes between flights or do y'all have enough time to spend 90 minutes in Charlotte?

310 ec marm  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:28:07am

re: #290 realwest

How is everyone this fine morning?!

Nice weather here. I got your e-mail and read your last reply. I just so happened to find this delicious little walk down memory lane. Click here. I love how the credits roll by as they thank the producer and say goodbye. Oops, what was that?

311 shug  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:29:30am

re: #309 realwest

re: #303 shug Hey shug! Um is that 90 minutes between flights or do y'all have enough time to spend 90 minutes in Charlotte?

no just between flights.
I'm being a bit of a dork today.

but on the way back we have a late night connection to detroit so if we miss it, we will spend the night ( I kind of hope we miss it )

312 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:30:23am

re: #307 shug Whoa, great video! That pilot missed that chain linked fence bythismuch if that! Didja notice the way his tires smoked on landing, too?
Musta been a former Navy carrier pilot!
Thanks for that!

313 shug  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:31:25am

re: #312 realwest

I love airplanes, so of course I like spending some time on Maho beach.

People stand behind the 747's when they take off, and the fools get blown into the water.

It's funny to watch

314 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:31:42am

For those following the Newark execution style murders story, there is another suspect who's been named. A Nicaraguan national, which I believe is another way of saying illegal alien.

Newark Mayor Cory Booker demanded that we get this evil out of his city. Well, dealing with the illegal aliens who have been responsible for crime in his city would be a start. Ensuring that those illegals who are arrested are detained for deportation, instead of releasing them on bail - only to commit more crime.

315 lucius septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:33:16am

re: #306 realwest

I'm with you -- I didn't see the joke.

What's with the straw poll anyway? It looks like an absurd sampling to me. I was up late last night because of my youngest not wanting to sleep and tried to follow the discussion for a while but just gave up.

Sounds like they've made progress on the pain thing, though -- that's good news.

316 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:35:43am

re: #311 shug Ah crap! Well 90 minutes inside the Charlotte terminal isn't any different than 90 minutes in any other airport terminal - just a lot of high priced junk on sale!
The salesfolk are, however, very friendly and, IIRC, they have sports bars there you might want to check out!
What's the return date of your flight to Detroit? And why are y'all flyin' to Detroit anyway?
If y'all get stuck overnight, give me a call (e-mail me and I'll send ya my phone number).

317 zenren  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:36:54am

OT - Egyptian girl dies in circumcision

A 13-year-old Egyptian girl has died during a circumcision operation, two months after the death of another girl prompted health officials to ban the widespread traditional procedure, local media said Saturday. The latest death was uncovered when Karima Rahim Massoud's father applied for a death certificate Friday, insisting his daughter had died from natural causes, the independent daily Al-Masry Al-Youm reported Saturday. The father has been referred to the state prosecutor...

...It is practiced by Muslims and Christians alike and is deeply rooted in the Nile Valley region and parts of sub-Saharan Africa, Yemen and Oman. While top clerics insist the practice has nothing to do with Islam, parents, especially in rural villages and Cairo slums, believe they are helping their daughters by protecting their virginity before marriage...


[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

318 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:36:55am

re: #313 shug "People stand behind the 747's when they take off, and the fools get blown into the water."
Now THAT'S a video I'd just LOVE to see, LOL!

319 shug  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:37:03am

re: #316 realwest

And why are y'all flyin' to Detroit anyway?

I ask myself that question every time I board the flight home.

Will do on the e-mail

returning on the 22nd

320 LoFlyer  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:38:01am

Morning Realwest, the weather is about as cool as it has been all week, low humidity and 78. Been out cleaning up the car, and have not broken a sweat, something I have not been able to say for a week.
Thanos, Beauchamp sounds like one of these sensitive "intellectuals" that can't open a bottle of beer with a bottle opener, much less fire an M-16. Beauchamp probably believed everything the recruiter told him, that he was going to have a cushy job in air-conditioned spaces, and wouldn't have to stand watches in the middle of night. My other guess would be though Beauchamp was qualified for one of these "cushy" jobs, he didn't make the grade because he is an F-up and ended up in the infantry. In Iraq. So now we have the disgruntled Beauchamp mouthing off every rumor he has heard that make the military look bad. I noticed he never says anything about Islamic terrorist be-headings, executions, torture or bombs. Guess that doesn't fit in with his "mission" in Iraq.
Now back out to the car for a couple of minutes...

321 m  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:41:05am

re: #311 shug

Dang, I'll be at the beach! I would have kidnapped {Realwest} and we could have all met for a drink or something in between :(

Good morning lizards of the world!

322 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:41:23am

re: #315 lucius septimius Well, far as I'm concerned, the whole straw poll thing was a joke!
And I'll just bet that your youngest didn't sleep in today either, did he or she?!

323 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:41:23am

re: #308 thanos

re: #303 shug


re: #290 realwest

Good Morning Y'all! From a warm (74 degrees, going up to 94 degrees) and sunn Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?!

I'm great.
I am going to be in your fine city this tuesday.

OK, it's on a 90 minute layover waiting for my flight to St. Maarten, but hey, I'll be there

any tips on how to kill 90 minutes in charlotte?


Get some chocolate while there, they have the Belgium varieties!


Sant maarten may be hit by a Category 3, per both thr GFDL and HWFR models run on Tropical Disturbance 90L, in 6 days.

324 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:42:41am

Actually, it appears Bo-chimp joined the Army as the first step of his journalism career. He was a moonbat before he ever got there.

re: #320 LoFlyer

Morning Realwest, the weather is about as cool as it has been all week, low humidity and 78. Been out cleaning up the car, and have not broken a sweat, something I have not been able to say for a week.
Thanos, Beauchamp sounds like one of these sensitive "intellectuals" that can't open a bottle of beer with a bottle opener, much less fire an M-16. Beauchamp probably believed everything the recruiter told him, that he was going to have a cushy job in air-conditioned spaces, and wouldn't have to stand watches in the middle of night. My other guess would be though Beauchamp was qualified for one of these "cushy" jobs, he didn't make the grade because he is an F-up and ended up in the infantry. In Iraq. So now we have the disgruntled Beauchamp mouthing off every rumor he has heard that make the military look bad. I noticed he never says anything about Islamic terrorist be-headings, executions, torture or bombs. Guess that doesn't fit in with his "mission" in Iraq.
Now back out to the car for a couple of minutes...

325 shug  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:43:48am

re: #323 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


ed, I'll be good and drunk so I might not notice

326 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:44:10am

Christianity Sucks and Islam is Awesome? by Doug Giles:

So chill, you shrill shredders of Christianity.

On the flip side, it is within the pages of the Koran to convert, conquer or kill non-Islamic people. And I’m a thinkin’ that no matter how much you work to besmirch Christianity and misinform on behalf of militant Islam, that if they had it their way, you, the secularist, would be a deceased grease stain on God’s green earth.

Therefore, gay guy, loosen that neckerchief and relax on the anti-Christian rhetoric, okay? Atheists, dial down and go back to studying monkeys (or whatever you do) and secularists, switch to decaf and exhale because you guys are barking up the wrong tree in trying to paint Christians as a coercive, could-be-violent, cabal like, militant Islam.

Radical Muslims, on the other hand, are the ones you need to sweat—because their book has zero tolerance for the likes of Sully and Jay—or anyone for that matter, who doesn’t lock step. You can bet your backside that if uncut Islam were in charge, Christopher Hitchens would be history, Drew Barrymore would be nevermore and Andrew Sullivan would never be seen again.

327 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:44:50am

re: #317 zenren Good morning!
"...It is practiced by Muslims and Christians alike and is deeply rooted in the Nile Valley region and parts of sub-Saharan Africa, Yemen and Oman."
I didn't know that Christians also perform FGM?! I wonder if that reporter got the facts straight? I mean, for a change.

328 lucius septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:45:24am

re: #305 thanos

What always gets me when I read stories like this is that the "Caliphate" was always a humbug -- there really never was a golden time when "all" Musselmen lived under the glorious leadership of a single state. The history of the Ummayid Caliphate is one of assassination, civil war, and sectarian violence. The Abbasid, half of whom were by any modern standards heretics, likewise presided over a level of political chaos that make the Byzantines look like models of order and stability. By 850 the whole thing was over, and the modern regional divisions were fairly well in place by the start of the Crusades. So what I want to say to these folks is "hey! Go read some history, ya morons!"

Why London? England is where the whole "Arab Nationalism" thing began in the first place. I remember reading a fascinating book comparing the differences between the English and French approaches to colonization. The English genuinely encouraged some sort of "nationalism" in each of their colonies through cultural programs, education, and the form of administration. Beyond that, the Arabs used to idolize the British (grudgingly, but they respected military success). Arendt wrote in the 1940s that the operative model for "new Caliphate" was the British Commonwealth; indeed the Arab Nationalists saw the Commonwealth as the institutional foundation for their "state."

Ideology and tactics, on the other hand, the Nazis provided. From the Colonels in Cairo the Mufti in Jerusalem to Azad Hind in India, the SS had their grubby bloody little paws everywhere.

329 shug  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:46:16am

re: #318 realwest

re: #313 shug "People stand behind the 747's when they take off, and the fools get blown into the water."
Now THAT'S a video I'd just LOVE to see, LOL!

330 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:46:51am

re: #319 shug Um, August 22nd? SHIT! I get my epidural at a ridiculously early hour on Monday the 23rd! Damnit! Well e-mail me anyhow and we can at least chat on the phone!

331 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:47:15am

Latest GFDL keeps TS force winds just offshore the Big Island.
So far, from this satellite, cooler waters not yet hurting Cat 4 Hurricane Flossie too badly.

332 shug  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:47:23am

re: #330 realwest

I sent the e-mail.

333 lucius septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:48:18am

re: #322 realwest

Gotcha.

Miss Baby Girl is getting a new tooth, and is going through some weird thing where she isn't sleeping at night. Of course she can't stand when her brothers are up and she isn't part of the fun. And she's reached the age where naps are declasse. (I for one still love naps, especially when it's so freakin' hot).

334 lucius septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:48:55am

re: #323 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #308 thanos

re: #303 shug


re: #290 realwest


Good Morning Y'all! From a warm (74 degrees, going up to 94 degrees) and sunn Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?!


I'm great.
I am going to be in your fine city this tuesday.OK, it's on a 90 minute layover waiting for my flight to St. Maarten, but hey, I'll be there

any tips on how to kill 90 minutes in charlotte?


Get some chocolate while there, they have the Belgium varieties!


Sant maarten may be hit by a Category 3, per both thr GFDL and HWFR models run on Tropical Disturbance 90L, in 6 days.

Wet blanket!

335 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:49:00am

I've never really felt sorry for men having to wear a necktie until today when I was putting his yellow silk one on The Kid. He had to keep his head back while I buttoned the top button, adjusted the tie and buttoned the two little buttons to the side. After telling me that I was gonna' choke him, he started kvetching about how how it's gonna' make him, how he can't move, how it made him feel all closed in.

Are ties really awful, men?

336 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:49:06am

re: #330 realwest

re: #319 shug Um, August 22nd? SHIT! I get my epidural at a ridiculously early hour on Monday the 23rd! Damnit! Well e-mail me anyhow and we can at least chat on the phone!


You're having a baby?

337 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:49:10am

re: #321 {m} Hey there! Good morning to you sweetie, how are you this lovely morning?

338 WriterMom  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:49:40am

re: #314 lawhawk

Hi Lawhawk-there was an excellent article in City Journal (it was also in the National Post this weekend) about how Newark is a city without fathers-60% of the kids there have no father in their lives, most are kids born into impoverished single-parent homes. You should check it out. There is a clear relationship...the article is called something like "Fatherless City".

339 WriterMom  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:50:22am

re: #321 m

Hi m!

341 WriterMom  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:51:34am

re: #335 MandyManners

My husband has worn a tie twice-once at our engagement party and once at our wedding.

342 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:52:59am

re: #329 shug WOOT! What a bunch of dumb asses! Probably some KosKids on Summer vacation (especially in the first video!)!

343 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:53:34am

re: #338 WriterMom

I hadn't seen it, but it certainly seems to be a problem in many minority communities around the country. However, in this latest crime spree, the key factor is the illegal aliens that were not only involved, but who had already been in police custody on other crimes.

These illegals were one-men crime sprees, and now three families have lost a chance at watching their loved ones grow up to have bright futures and enrich Newark for years to come.

344 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:53:51am

re: #334 lucius septimius

re: #323 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


re: #308 thanos

re: #303 shug

re: #290 realwest

Good Morning Y'all! From a warm (74 degrees, going up to 94 degrees) and sunn Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?!

I'm great.
I am going to be in your fine city this tuesday.OK, it's on a 90 minute layover waiting for my flight to St. Maarten, but hey, I'll be there

any tips on how to kill 90 minutes in charlotte?


Get some chocolate while there, they have the Belgium varieties!

Sant maarten may be hit by a Category 3, per both thr GFDL and HWFR models run on Tropical Disturbance 90L, in 6 days.

Wet blanket!


Not at all, if Shug will be in St. Maarten around the 18th of this month (BTW, there is a reason why hotel rates are lower in August & September) and has a video camera and a satellite phone to upload the iomagery to Fox or CNN, he might just be able to pay for his vacation with the proceeeds of his hurricane video.

BTW, I don't 100% trust the modelling that far out, and projecting the 6Z GFDL beyond its last point, the strongest winds from then Cat 3 Hurricane Dean may just barely miss St. Maarten

345 lucius septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:54:06am

re: #326 christheprofessor

Mornin' CtP. How are you and TBDITW doing?

Reading the article, this struck me as the key line:

Bob shows those who can still be shown anything factual ...

That's the problem. Most of the leftards and useful idiots are immune to evidence.

346 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 6:54:20am

re: #332 shug
Got it and will reply later!

347 Luigi  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:14:39am

Gobbledygook on lifespan -- in favor of socialized medicine, of course.

Yahoo's home page has this teaser which turns out to be utter nonsense: "U.S. lifespan keeps slipping"

You can follow the link down the rabbit hole to more Alice in Wonderland information:

U.S. life span shorter

Americans are living longer than ever, but not as long as people in 41 other countries.


[Link: health.yahoo.com...]

Forty-one, huh? They don't give you the list. But you can go to Wikipedia and get this which confirms the fact as accurate but fake.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Yes, it's around 41, but only until you remove from the mix certain island, enclaves, principalities, districts, citistates, and other small populations which are easy to administer to. Then we rise to within a year or two of similar Western industrialized societies like UK, Germany and France.

The fact is, in America you have the right, the means, the resources and the information to live as long as you want, or to die as young as you want.

The United States currently has the greatest number of centenarians in the world, numbering over 55,000 in the year 2005. The U.S. number is partly a function of America's large population in 1890-1905, and an increased emphasis on Long-term Care (LTC) facilities.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

348 Miss Trixie  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:19:37am

&#9834 Good morning {LGF} &#9834

{realwest} Morning *smoooch*

/pardon the garlic breath - creative cooking last night :D

349 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:20:21am

re: #336 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet Yeah, afraid so...damnit I TOLD her I was supposed to be on Top!

350 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:20:55am

re: #341 WriterMom

Part of me--the larger part--believes that decision should be up to him when he gets a lot older. The church he attends with my mother is quite conservative and people really do dress up. And, the AC is strong.

OTOH, I don't want to turn him off about going to church. I wonder if wearing a tie will make him associate discomfort with church. Silly?

351 wanumba  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:22:22am

re: #293 thanos
re: #293 thanos
Neat!
Took a flight in 1982 from Rawlpindi into Skardu. $35 maybe even less, it was sooo cheap, subsidized to bring more Pakistanis into the area. The flight followed the Indus River, with steep, grey barren rock slopes that rose up along both sides of the river, and beyond them, snow capped mountains. The tight, monotone confines suddenly opened, and the scene ahead was just like that photo - wide open flood plain, with the river winding through. Incredible!
At the airport, met a Pakistani road engineer who was just completing the Gilgit-Skardu mountain road - they'd lost a man a kilometer building it. Very nice guy, went to the USA for his engineering degree. Adopted us for a night, we stayed at his camp on one of the lower slopes overlooking the plain, and met the fellow who was just building the "Shangri-La" holiday retreat up there. He'd even had the shell of an old DC-9 (10?) hauled in by donkey train - in pieces - took three months of of donkey tramping to arrive - for the "honeymoon suite". Have seen advertisements for the resort recently and smile. Guess he's done well.
Gorgeous land, but incredibly hard living. The water melts off the glaciers and is presented to you to drink so silvery opaque you can't see through a glass of it. Sheer cliffs separate villages - they face each other sometimes only half a mile apart - but rarely if ever are able to mix - walking miles for a treacherous path that takes them down and across and back up again.
Rode back by mini-bus along that new road that was cut into the side of the mountain, facing those old donkey tracks that could be seen across the river, zig-zagged cut into the other steep slope, the old route that was more than a week's hike in (without aircraft strapped to the beasts) Absolutely the most frightening ride ever been on - drivers playing "chicken" with each other on a 1 1/2 car wide gravel road, usually 100 above the raging Indus River.
Driving along, steep slopes give way to occasional plateaus - green with growing things and that's where humanity exists - tending terraced patches of wheat, apricot trees, sheep and goats, the crops cultivated in terraced plots, some no bigger than 15 feet long by 8 feet wide - anywhere a flat piece of turf can be developed. Then, every now and then, another surprise - a larger village with a big, flat open space, and horses racing back and forth - a polo game - on a field next to a 200 foot cliff that plunged to the river.
Almost magical, the beauty of that region.

352 hayseed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:22:42am

re: #335 MandyManners

I've never really felt sorry for men having to wear a necktie until today when I was putting his yellow silk one on The Kid. He had to keep his head back while I buttoned the top button, adjusted the tie and buttoned the two little buttons to the side. After telling me that I was gonna' choke him, he started kvetching about how how it's gonna' make him, how he can't move, how it made him feel all closed in.

Are ties really awful, men?

I don't know about ties,but when I was in the trades I had to wear a hard hat. now that was a pain!

353 Luigi  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:23:37am

Adedendem to #347..

The United Nations estimates that in 2000 there were 180,000 centenarians in the world. So, let's say today there are 200,000. Since the US had 55,000 of them, then that means more than one quarter of the world's centenarians live in the United States.

The article on Yahoo this morning is clearly aimed to influence people to the Dem talking point for socialized medicine.

354 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:24:03am

Exlpoding AC kills one, injures three at McDonalds in India.

CALCUTTA, India - A faulty air conditioner exploded Sunday at a McDonald's restaurant in the eastern Indian city of Calcutta, killing one person and seriously injuring three others, police said.

The explosion happened early in the morning before the restaurant opened, killing a passer-by, said city Police Commissioner Prasun Mukherjee.

"Three others were admitted to hospital in serious condition," he said.

Mukherjee said that there was no evidence of sabotage, and that initial investigations indicated that a faulty air conditioner exploded, possibly setting off gas canisters in the kitchen.

SNIP

Can an AC explode?

355 Miss Trixie  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:24:20am

{ { {m} } } Darling girl! How are you? :D

{WriterMom} Toots!

{ {CtP} } Positive news for TBDITW?

356 wanumba  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:25:05am

Mandymanners
A boy will want to wear a tie if he sees older boys and men he admires wearing them.
If nobody he knows is wearing them, he won't want to.
Nothing to do with the tie per se - everything to do with what he thinks his image should be.

357 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:25:28am

re: #352 hayseed

Well, a hard hat serves a purpose. Other than ornamental, do ties?

358 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:27:12am

re: #326 christheprofessor
Hello there my friend - as others have already asked, how is your pooch? I experienced a significant disturbance in the Force or I'd a answered y'all sooner, but LGF fell down and went BOOM! for me for about 20 minutes or so!
So how are you and the TBDITW doing?

360 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:27:58am

PVt Buttmunch may have been confronted by some of his unit members and was told that if they catch him on any telephone that they personally will shove the hand set up Buttmunch's ass. Naturally that is off the record and no one actually said that, but it may have been heavily implied. His unit members don't like the adverse publicity Buttmunch brought to them.

Buttmunch's best option would be to go AWOL, face the Courts Martial and to accept the bad conduct discharge. He's a confirmed liar and no one in their right mind would trust him.

361 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:28:16am

re: #356 wanumba

Just about all the men at church wear ties, and all the male teachers--except the coaches and PE people--at school wear them. My dad'd retired so he rarely wears one.

362 EC Marm  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:29:22am

re: #354 MandyManners

Can an AC explode?


I think the only danger I've ever heard of is during recharging them. But they say the store was closed. It sounds suspicious.

363 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:29:39am

A whole lotta mohamed in this story...

Brothers remanded over shooting

TWIN brothers have appeared briefly in court charged with attempted murder after a shooting outside a Campbellfield pizza shop.

Ahmed Mohamed and Mohamed Mohamed, 19, of Roxburgh Park, were remanded in custody yesterday at Melbourne Magistrates Court.

They have been charged with attempted murder and intentionally and recklessly causing serious injury to Setrak Dawood, Billial Khaoula and Omar Khaoula at the Barry Rd pizza shop.

Mohamed Mohamed wore a bandage in court after treatment at St Vincent's Hospital for head injuries suffered on the night of the alleged incident.

364 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:29:44am

re: #360 Perplexed

"Buttmunch."

*snort* and *snicker*

365 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:30:49am

re: #348 {Miss Trixie} Hey there sweetie! *smooch* right back atcha (garlic breath doesn't turn me off; as a matter of fact, quite the opposite!) how are y'all this beautiful day?

366 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:30:59am

re: #335 MandyManners

I've never really felt sorry for men having to wear a necktie until today when I was putting his yellow silk one on The Kid. He had to keep his head back while I buttoned the top button, adjusted the tie and buttoned the two little buttons to the side. After telling me that I was gonna' choke him, he started kvetching about how how it's gonna' make him, how he can't move, how it made him feel all closed in.

Are ties really awful, men?

Yes. I once worked in the DFW area and got a (probably a perverse kick) out of watching office types walk from their car into work while wearing both a tie and a suit coat. Instant sweat stains.

367 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:31:26am

re: #362 EC Marm

It blew the entire front of the restaurant. Maybe that was due to the gas canisters but, I have never heard of an AC exploding on its own.

368 docremulac  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:32:19am

#354 MandyManners 8/12/2007 7:24:03 am PDT reply quote


"Can an AC explode?"


If you put a bomb in it.

369 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:33:24am

re: #366 Perplexed

They kept their coats on outside? That's crazy. I don't make the kid wear a blazer during this kind of weather, even though he's in AC for all but a few minutes getting in/out of the car/building.

370 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:33:30am

re: #367 MandyManners

re: #362 EC Marm

It blew the entire front of the restaurant. Maybe that was due to the gas canisters but, I have never heard of an AC exploding on its own.

Depends on what they were using as a refrigerant. The very old ones used ammonia for the refrigerant and they sometimes had problems with them. The newer ones either use freon or in some cases helium as the coolant.

371 Pullus Iulius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:34:16am

re: #354 MandyManners

Exlpoding AC kills one, injures three at McDonalds in India.

Mukherjee said that there was no evidence of sabotage, and that initial investigations indicated that a faulty air conditioner exploded, possibly setting off gas canisters in the kitchen.

SNIP

Can an AC explode?

I think the key here is the gas canisters, which in India would probably be filled with butane or propane. Air conditioners have compressors, which compress things. Things get hot when they compress, especially if there's faultiness involved. Too much heat plus too much gas can equal a bad day at McDonalds. It's a good reminder to everyone about keeping your grill tanks in a safe place - even if they seem empty.

372 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:34:43am

re: #369 MandyManners

Yep, they had an image to uphold and walking into the business with your coat off was a big no-no.

373 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:35:58am

re: #368 docremulac

But, the article stated that the cops hadn't found evidence of one.

374 Miss Trixie  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:36:06am

re: #365 realwest

I'm just fine thanks for asking and right now Lil Miss is yellin' at me 'cause she wants to go terrorize the 'hood before it gets too hot.

So we're off. :D

/just a little bit

Talk later, lizards.

375 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:36:36am

re: #372 Perplexed

JPN. There's image and then, there's insanity.

376 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:36:45am

re: #350 MandyManners Good morning to you Mandy! Yes ties are a pain in the ass until you've worn them say three days in a row, and then (assuming the shirt fits properly) you don't hardly notice 'em at all.
I hadda wear a suit and tie for the first 30 years I was practising law in NYC and I had trouble adjusting to "dress down Fridays" - just didn't know what to wear!
But I seriously woulnd't worry about tie/pain/church connection for your son. Besides, by the time he gets in the workforce, I have no doubt suits and ties will be back "in" at a lot of places and doing it only once a week or on special occasions now will prepare him for life later!
Hell, even the damn Army made us wear ties with our dress uniforms!

377 Born Again Republican  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:37:12am

re: #351 wanumba

Wow! No where but on LGF can you get this kind of dialogue! Beautifully written wanumba! Along with Thanos pic, it was almost as good as being there.

378 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:37:32am

re: #371 Pullus Iulius

Doesn't India have an OSHA?

379 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:39:18am

re: #370 Perplexed

Other than how to set the thermostat, all I know about AC's is that they use coolant and that they compress air.

380 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:40:42am

Back on Topic and a repost from #76 above:

Y'all know that TNR doesn't need Pvt Beauchamp now. Nope, not even a little bit!
After all, they have 5 different soldiers who backed up "Scotty's" story. All the way. All TNR has to do now, is to get these soldiers to agree to be named by TNR, instead of remaining anonymous and - bingo we'd actually have something to talk about and TNR could at least try to retrieve some of it's journalistic integrity.
Unless, of course a) those 5 anonymous soldiers never existed or b) those 5 anonymous soldiers lied to the Army, under Oath and that's why they won't give up their anonymity.

381 Media_man  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:41:03am

Maybe Beauchamp & Steve Glass can combine forces and create a new literary school called the "Bullsh__ School of New Wave Journalism". They can write fiction for Al Jazeera and the NY Times and peddle it as news reporting.

382 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:41:22am

re: #376 realwest

Good point. I try not to obsess about every little detail of his life but, figuring out which hill to die taking can be challenging at times.

BRB Need more tea.

383 zeir  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:41:32am

#37

Back on topic, TNR editorial staff are hardly two fisted pros. Mainly they are a bunch of post collegiate infants. Did you see "Shattered Glass"?

384 WriterMom  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:42:31am

re: #363 NJDhockeyfan

A Ho Lotta Mo!

385 wanumba  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:42:37am

re: #361 MandyManners
You have to figure out who he admires most - little kids ALWAYS pattern on others - just always surprises (alarms) parents to discover who they think are cool, but at a young age, the likes and dislikes are usually superficial. But, parents have to remember what's important in a little kid's eyes - and little kids crave routine - it helps them cope with all the incoming new.
We had our 11-year-old son take his tie to his school mentor, Sarge, (a real one) who sternly and carefully walked him through how to do the full knotted one so that he would be sharp for uniform blazer inspection. The 5 year old would sleep in his tie if we'd let him. He sees the high schoolers at his school wearing ties every day - and they are the "older kids" the "cool ones."
Usually, if boys (a girls, too) perceive that it's "mother" sticking them in a tie, then "poof" no "cool." But, just because "mothers" aren't "cool" doesn't mean they aren't clever enough to come up with sly ways to "make" it "cool." I.E. know any Marines who could come over and give him that "you ain't worthy" look, then tell him button ties are for "girls" - real mean knot their own ...

386 Dax  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:44:07am

Discussion about this on CNN now...


They are all a bunch of equivocating pansies

387 Thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:44:26am

re: #351 wanumba

re: #293 thanos
re: #293 thanos
Neat!
Took a flight in 1982 from Rawlpindi into Skardu. $35 maybe even less, it was sooo cheap, subsidized to bring more Pakistanis into the area. The flight followed the Indus River, with steep, grey barren rock slopes that rose up along both sides of the river, and beyond them, snow capped mountains. The tight, monotone confines suddenly opened, and the scene ahead was just like that photo - wide open flood plain, with the river winding through. Incredible!
At the airport, met a Pakistani road engineer who was just completing the Gilgit-Skardu mountain road - they'd lost a man a kilometer building it. Very nice guy, went to the USA for his engineering degree. Adopted us for a night, we stayed at his camp on one of the lower slopes overlooking the plain, and met the fellow who was just building the "Shangri-La" holiday retreat up there. He'd even had the shell of an old DC-9 (10?) hauled in by donkey train - in pieces - took three months of of donkey tramping to arrive - for the "honeymoon suite". Have seen advertisements for the resort recently and smile. Guess he's done well.
Gorgeous land, but incredibly hard living. The water melts off the glaciers and is presented to you to drink so silvery opaque you can't see through a glass of it. Sheer cliffs separate villages - they face each other sometimes only half a mile apart - but rarely if ever are able to mix - walking miles for a treacherous path that takes them down and across and back up again.
Rode back by mini-bus along that new road that was cut into the side of the mountain, facing those old donkey tracks that could be seen across the river, zig-zagged cut into the other steep slope, the old route that was more than a week's hike in (without aircraft strapped to the beasts) Absolutely the most frightening ride ever been on - drivers playing "chicken" with each other on a 1 1/2 car wide gravel road, usually 100 above the raging Indus River.
Driving along, steep slopes give way to occasional plateaus - green with growing things and that's where humanity exists - tending terraced patches of wheat, apricot trees, sheep and goats, the crops cultivated in terraced plots, some no bigger than 15 feet long by 8 feet wide - anywhere a flat piece of turf can be developed. Then, every now and then, another surprise - a larger village with a big, flat open space, and horses racing back and forth - a polo game - on a field next to a 200 foot cliff that plunged to the river.
Almost magical, the beauty of that region.

Nice description Wanumba; if you want to relive the flight you can now tilt the pan of Google earth and do a virtual fly through of the valleys, not the same as being in a plane, but interesting none the less. There are blue and yellow dots on the map now where folks have inserted photos of the area.

388 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:44:28am

re: #371 Pullus Iulius "It's a good reminder to everyone about keeping your grill tanks in a safe place - even if they seem empty."
Indeed! That's why we keep our "empties" in our neighbor's yard (least til he discovers them!)

;>'

389 LanceKates  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:45:47am

Screw TNR. They're about as useful as waterwings for a cat.

as for this Iowa straw poll? What the crust is it? And why am I a bit depressed that Duncan Hunter finished lower than Ron Paul?

390 WriterMom  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:46:07am
391 Thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:48:17am

Check this out... The Taliban chopped off a guy's head, legs, and arms, accused him of being a spy with a note pinned to his body, demands that nobody buries him, and Associated "with terrorists" press calls them "suspected militants".
You can see where their sympathies lie by the path of the URL -- the poor mutilated corpse is an "alleged" spy... but AP joins with the Taliban in calling him a spy, while not naming the islamists.

392 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:48:44am

re: #352 hayseed Hey good morning to y'all! Um, the other day you mentioned something about a spinal somethng something something for your neck and I suggested that you might want to get a second opinion (that or I'm starting to dream about LGF posts -gack!) how are you doing with your neck now?

393 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:49:16am

re: #385 wanumba

At seven, he doesn't quite have the patience to learn how to tie one. (His ties zip up.) But, yeah, I will have someone show him how to tie them one day.

394 Bobblehead  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:49:38am

re: #360 Perplexed

Pvt Buttmunch..Hahahahahaha...

395 LanceKates  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:50:05am

re: #391 Thanos

They have to appear 'unbiased' . . . which, today, means that they have to side with the enemies of Freedom.

396 lucius septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:50:44am

re: #361 MandyManners

Mornin' Mandy -- I lost the connection for a while, so I didn't get to answer you.

1) Ties are a pain much of the time
2) But they are useful for conveying information. I have one with little elephants that I wear to Trustee meetings to communicate that I'm not a moon bat. And I have one with caviar and martinis I use to communicate what I'd rather be doing than teaching.

397 LoFlyer  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:51:41am

371 PI, I think you nailed it. I have heard of A/C compressors exploding but its pretty rare and alway low-order. Bad luck about the gas tanks next to the compressor.
Heres a view from sunny Mt. Wilson observatory this morning...[Link: www.astro.ucla.edu...]

398 Bobblehead  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:53:55am

re: #393 MandyManners

Learning to tie a tie..it's a rite of passage for young men. Little boys look so cute in a button down shirt, tie and blazer.

399 lucius septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:55:25am

OT but not unrelated (i.e. Moronic Convergence), was a swell article in the WSJ by the former Israelis UN ambassador (now talk about thankless jobs) about the folly of the "Peace" Process. A hit for the Condi-bashers.

The Dangers of 'Peace' Making
America's latest efforts merely entrenched al Qaeda in the Gaza Strip.

The underlying assumption is that radical Islam has something do to with Israel-related political grievances. Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has made this argument repeatedly. If he and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice roll up their sleeves and work toward a permanent settlement of the Palestinian issue, so the logic goes, [Logic and "radical Islam" in the same thought. Heh! ed.] they will be providing a powerful diplomatic antidote to the jihadism threatening the security of the entire Western alliance.

But is this really the case? In August 2005, the international community embraced Israel's unilateral disengagement from Gaza, largely for these very reasons. The "occupation," which they tirelessly argued was polarizing the Middle East, would be rolled back. The Palestinians would take over Israeli greenhouses and export cherry tomatoes to the European Union. They would pump gas from lucrative off-shore gas fields being developed by British Gas to bring in huge revenues to the Palestinian people.

Ms. Rice also pushed hard for the "Rafah Border Crossing Agreement," which was supposed to facilitate trade between Gaza and the rest of the world while keeping terrorists out. EU observers were deployed.

But moderation did not ensue. Five months after Israel's withdrawal from Gaza, Hamas won the Palestinian elections and formed a government. In March 2006, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas told the London Arabic daily Al-Hayat that al Qaeda had penetrated the area. A month later, the newspaper reported that al Qaeda operatives had infiltrated Gaza from Egypt, Sudan and Yemen.

Huge amounts of weapons and cash also poured into Gaza. And regardless of their tactical disagreements, Hamas did not fight al Qaeda but in fact joined forces with one of its Gaza affiliates, the Army of Islam (Jaish al-Islam), in kidnapping Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit. In July 2007, the head of al Qaeda in Egypt fled that country's security forces to hide in Gaza.

In short, the U.S. and its Western allies thought that Israel's Gaza pullout would establish the foundations of a Palestinian state and thus reduce the flames of radical Islamic rage. Instead they got an al-Qaeda sanctuary on the shores of the Mediterranean.

400 Carl in Jerusalem  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:56:27am
401 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:56:29am

re: #390 WriterMom

I wonder if his wife and daughter have been tested.

402 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:57:27am

re: #381 Media_man No disrespect intended, but I think that Al Jazeera and the NY Times write fiction pretty well all on their own and don't need to hire "kids" fresh out of that new journalism school you're talking about.
Of course, an iflux of fresh, trained to write fiction "reporters" might not hurt them, either!

403 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:57:37am

re: #396 lucius septimius

HA! You rebel, you.

What's the history of the tie?

404 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 7:59:22am

re: #398 Bobblehead

Yeah, they do look cute. Those little bow ties I put on him when he was younger were adorable.

406 Carl in Jerusalem  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:00:12am

re: #401 MandyManners

re: #390 WriterMom

I wonder if his wife and daughter have been tested.

Why do you think they were living in Paris without him for all those years?

407 rick554  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:03:20am

We will see this traitor/coward testify before another traitor/coward in the hallowed Halls of the Senate. Of this I'm certain.
WIN the FRIGGIN WAR!
Rick554

408 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:04:57am

re: #390 WriterMom Jeebus, it never stops, does it? First Arafish was HIV Positive, then, rather than admit that, they cut off his "personal" physician on the TV show as soon as he mentions it and go straight to the meme "the Jooos poisoned our great leader [who, iirc, extorted and stole more money from the PA than he gave 'em]". Arafish was a truly disgusting person in every way but rather than accept that and move on, they just hadda blame the Jews again.
That meme "it's the fault of the Jews (or the
Israeli's)" is so old and tired, I doubt if even the Pali's beleive it any more.

409 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:07:26am

re: #406 Carl in Jerusalem

Are they infected, though?

410 carridine  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:07:29am

re: #400 Carl in Jerusalem

re: #390 WriterMom
Arafish Doctor: There Was HIV in His Blood, But the JOOOISH POISON IS WHAT KILLED HIM

Yeah, I saw it. The video of the interview is here.

No, in fact it was the Muslim poison, the hateful, anti-Jewish, obstructionist, cowardly, deceitful POISON that killed Arafish... and HE was the source of his own poison!

411 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:07:59am

re: #345 lucius septimius

Good morning -- sorry for the delay in responding...

We are well, thanks, and you and yours?

The Best Dog in the World™ is sleeping. She's eating pretty well and I've been successful so far in getting her medicine into her (I had trouble medicating her last week, as she wouldn't eat anything)...

And yes, the left is immune to facts (as well as reason)...

re: #355 {Miss Trixie}

Yup. She's home and doing better, though not at nearly 100%. She's still only 33 of her normal 42 lbs, so she looks dreadfully thin, but she seems okay and on the mend...

re: #358 realwest

Good morning. As you can see from above, she seems to be doing pretty well, thanks... Howzabout you?

412 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:08:42am

re: #391 Thanos I loved this bit of journalist gymnastics: "Militants are blamed for attacking people suspected of spying for U.S. and Pakistani authorities in the region, which borders Afghanistan, and where al-Qaida- and Taliban-linked fighters operate.
Scores of people — including Afghan refugees and Pakistani tribesmen and clerics — have been killed in such attacks in the region in recent years."

I reckon it's a good thing they're militants, can you imagine the horrors that would be inflicted on the populace if they were terrorists?!

413 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:10:04am

Here is some news via our friends, the Saudis...

Man reported dead of fright in Saudi vice police custody

RIYADH -- A Bangladeshi man died of fright after being arrested by Saudi Arabia's controversial religious police for washing a car instead of praying, a local newspaper reported Sunday.

The unnamed man died last week in the holy city of Medina after being detained by members of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, Al Jazirah reported.

The Arabic daily said the man "convulsed in fear after he was arrested, leading to a drop in his blood pressure, and causing his death."

The man was arrested by members of the commission, commonly known as the Muttawa, for washing a car during a time of day when he should have been at prayer, the paper said.

The Muttawa enforce a strict Islamic moral code in the ultra-conservative kingdom, and are increasingly being criticized by the public for perceived abuses.

The Muttawa beat a group of Iraqi pilgrims holding British and US citizenship in the Muslim holy city of Mecca, a Saudi Shiite news Web site said August 6.

The Shiite news Web site rasid.net said the Muttawa beat the pilgrims with sticks after accusing them of being "infidels" as they circled the holy Kaaba stone at the Grand Mosque, Islam's holiest site.

The head of the Muttawa, Ibrahim Al Ghaith, said the Bangladeshi man "fainted" while being transported in a vehicle, and that doctors found no signs of "assault or torture" on his body, Al Watan newspaper reported.

Three commission members and policeman who witnessed the incident were questioned before being completely exonerated, it added.

414 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:10:34am

re: #397 LoFlyer Good morning my friend - thank you so much for that spectacular photo!

415 VMI84  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:11:02am

Beau-chump is staking out his future run for to Congress just like Kerry as per Rick554's comment. Lie, defame, and debase the troops for personal gain and ego. Treason in my book.

416 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:11:24am

OT: video released showing that Arab who was killed while attacking people near a yeshiva in Jerusalem on Friday was not some innocent dupe as his family claimed and indeed grabbed the security guard's gun and fired it repeatedly at the guard and nearby pedestrians.

Surveillance videos clearly show Ahmad Mahmoud Khatib - perpetrator of the Friday shooting in the Old City of Jerusalem - stealing a gun from a security guard and shooting him, despite claims to the contrary by his family. Jerusalem police authorized the publication of the surveillance tapes on Sunday.

Khatib grabbed a weapon from a guard of the Ateret Kohanim yeshiva and then set off through the Old City's street shooting back wildly at another yeshiva guard who pursued him. Ten bystanders and one of the guards were injured in the crossfire before the shooter was killed.
417 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:13:13am

re: #396 lucius septimius

I have a friend who drinks gin martinis, because he says he wants people to know he's drunk, not stupid...

418 Bobblehead  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:13:17am

re: #411 christheprofessor

Did you ever figure out what the problem was?

419 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:13:32am

Hey, the ground where they screwed arafish into (so crooked that he would put a cork screw to shame) is contaminated and nothing will grow there for at least 30 million years.

420 LanceKates  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:13:46am

re: #415 VMI84

There is no treason anymore. If lying about our military, spreading our military's secrets, defaming our military, supporting our enemies in protests, kicking military recruiters off of PUBLIC university campuses, Posing for pictures with anti-ammerican communist country leaders, or supporting the enemy's morale or fighters in THIS counry aren't forms of Treason, there is no treason anymore.

421 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:14:34am

re: #404 MandyManners NOOO! Not bow ties! Yikes, he'll look like a geek in a bow tie (apologies to all geeks out here - and you know who you are!). If y'all don't know how, find someone who can teach him to tie a "long" tie properly - a Windsor knotted tie, pulled up snug to the crisp, clean, freshly laundered an Ironed (although permanent press is ok at his age) looks great and makes any man - even geeks - look handsome!

422 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:15:01am

Good morning all!

I see that I've missed much this weekend.

Huckabee was a bit of a surprise. Romney wasn't.

423 Thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:15:42am

Breitbart video

CA Senator's wild ride

424 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:16:55am

re: #421 realwest

re: #404 MandyManners NOOO! Not bow ties! Yikes, he'll look like a geek in a bow tie (apologies to all geeks out here - and you know who you are!). If y'all don't know how, find someone who can teach him to tie a "long" tie properly - a Windsor knotted tie, pulled up snug to the crisp, clean, freshly laundered an Ironed (although permanent press is ok at his age) looks great and makes any man - even geeks - look handsome!


I don't know what your chatting about, but I have to agree with realwest regarding a nice Windsor knot.

425 Thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:17:19am

OT:


DALLAS (AP) - Two police officers responding to what they thought was a wreck on a downtown freeway early Sunday were caught in a shootout that killed three people and wounded a patrolman, authorities said.
Witnesses told investigators they stopped to help a motorist on the side of Interstate 35 when someone inside the car shot at them, prompting them to retrieve a gun from their own car and return fire before the officers arrived, authorities said.

That's when officers spotted two people lying on the side of the road and stopped to help, unaware of the shootout, police said. As one officer aided a person on the ground, his partner, Senior Cpl. Jerry Poston, was shot by someone from inside a nearby car.

"We do not know who shot who," Dallas police spokesman Vernon Hale said in a statement. The officers said they did not shoot anyone, Hale said.

Poston, a 17-year veteran of the department, was hospitalized at Methodist Central in serious condition. His partner was not identified.

The suspect who shot Poston was among the three killed, investigators said. It was unclear whether the suspect killed himself or someone else shot him.

Police said they do not know the condition of a second person wounded in the shootout.

426 BabbaZee  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:17:30am

Attention mine jihadist enemies:

YES
quake in fear
because in a roundabout way
We the Jooos
did kill Arafat
and
yes
we are responsible for
EVERYTHING

The GOD of History
is a Jewish GOD

No one lives or dies but at His Mighty Hand
We who walk this earth under contract to Him
That you call INFIDEL JEW AND CRUSADER
will be standing in the end
and
you
will be as empty useless husks
thrown into a fire
when the threshing is complete
no matter how much jihad you wage
no matter how many of your children you immolate
no matter how much death you drink
from the cup of abominations
your god is NOT GOD
and you are absolutely powerless against us

MOOOooOOOHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAAA!

This has been a spiritual war gauntlet thrown down by the Zionist Hobby Center
we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread


Shalom and Farewell Lizardia
I will not be back till tomorrow
have a great day

427 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:17:39am

re: #415 VMI84

Kerry got away with it because there was no Internet back then. I don't see Beauchamp doing so. Thousands of people are onto him and his editorial bosses.

428 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:18:38am

re: #411 christheprofessor I was doing ok, but now am feeling even better with the good news about The Best Dog in the World™!
And I gotta figure you're feeling pretty good, too, though probably tired from all the stress!
Thanks for giving us the latest news and I'm so glad it was such good news, too!

429 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:18:42am

re: #425 Thanos


I wonder what the suspects immigration status is/was.

Prayers for the officer and his speedy and full recovery.

430 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:19:21am

re: #421 realwest

The bow ties were worn when he was a baby/toddler.

431 LanceKates  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:20:24am

re: #425 Thanos

Witnesses told investigators they stopped to help a motorist on the side of Interstate 35 when someone inside the car shot at them, prompting them to retrieve a gun from their own car and return fire before the officers arrived, authorities said.

Today's day and age, why would you help a stranger on the side of the road without your gun in your pocket or a purse (if you're a lady)?

I don't pull over and help unless I have my gun with me.

432 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:20:26am

re: #418 Bobblehead

Still no diagnosis. The vet has consulted with a colleague from vet school as well as somebody at a University vet school and they all seem to agree on what it likely isn't and what it likely is (something with her GI tract). So, the plan is to get her well enough to have an endoscope inserted to look around, as well as an ultrasound...

433 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:20:46am

re: #428 realwest

re: #411 christheprofessor I was doing ok, but now am feeling even better with the good news about The Best Dog in the World™!
And I gotta figure you're feeling pretty good, too, though probably tired from all the stress!
Thanks for giving us the latest news and I'm so glad it was such good news, too!


I'm happy to hear about Best Dog too! Yay!

christheprofessor, you should post a picture of Best Dog so we can all see what he looks like.

434 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:21:15am

re: #424 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

When he's old enough to navigate them, I'll have someone teach it to him--and, me, too.

435 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:21:16am

re: #428 realwest

Yes, I'm glad you are feeling better, as well. It sucks not feeling well and/or being in pain...

436 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:21:24am

re: #430 MandyManners

re: #421 realwest

The bow ties were worn when he was a baby/toddler.


Oh, well that's okay then. A full Windsor would look silly on a toddler.

437 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:21:43am

re: #417 christheprofessor Ack! Gin, in any form, is nasty I tells ya. And Gin leaves absolutely the WORST hangovers in the World!

438 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:21:47am

Islam concert in Indonesia...

Stadium crowd pushes for Islamist dream

The BBC's Lucy Williamson reports from Indonesia, where tens of thousands of Islamists have gathered to push for the creation of a single state across the Muslim world.

The dull roars of a football match, the twanging music of a youth group concert - from a distance it is not always easy to tell an Islamic conference from a holiday crowd.

Inside Jakarta's Gelora Bung Karno stadium the clues get easier. There are about 100,000 people inside, and everyone is in Islamic dress.

The women's section - by far the biggest - is a pitter-patter of ice-cream colours. On their parasols, one word is printed over and over again: Khilafah, caliphate.

This is the reason why people have come here. To show their support for a single, unified, Islamic state.

And they partied like it was 999.

439 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:21:54am

re: #415 VMI84

Beau-chump is staking out his future run for to Congress just like Kerry as per Rick554's comment. Lie, defame, and debase the troops for personal gain and ego. Treason in my book.

Well, there is the memory hole called the internet. Buttmunch, if and when he decides to run for office, will have detractors out there who can pull up nearly everything that Buttmunch did. There's even people going to websites who've discovered that Buttmunch received non-judicial punishment and was reduced to E-1 (the only thing lower is a basic trainee), forfeited some pay and faced several very angry officers. Not a good way to begin your career as a politician.

He's toast within his unit, ostracized, and subject to humiliating pranks by people who should know better. The only redeeming thing is that he brought it all on himself.

440 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:22:40am

re: #433 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Thanks. I don't have anyplace to post it but if you blue your nic, I'll send you one...

441 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:22:46am

re: #431 LanceKates

re: #425 Thanos


Witnesses told investigators they stopped to help a motorist on the side of Interstate 35 when someone inside the car shot at them, prompting them to retrieve a gun from their own car and return fire before the officers arrived, authorities said.

Today's day and age, why would you help a stranger on the side of the road without your gun in your pocket or a purse (if you're a lady)?

I don't pull over and help unless I have my gun with me.


I don't pull over at all unless it is an accident and I don't have the kiddos with me. I do however call 911.

442 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:23:19am

re: #437 realwest

My favorite drink is a nice Gin & Tonic (Bombay, thank you)...

443 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:23:28am

re: #437 realwest

re: #417 christheprofessor Ack! Gin, in any form, is nasty I tells ya. And Gin leaves absolutely the WORST hangovers in the World!


Gin and tonic with a twist of lime in the summer is so refreshing.

Tequila gives the worst hangover in the world, IMO.

444 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:23:28am

This is just nuts - the terrorists holding Gilad Shalit are blaming Shalit's family for his continued captivity.

445 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:24:03am

re: #440 christheprofessor


How do I blue my nic? (duh)

446 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:24:47am

re: #444 lawhawk

This is just nuts - the terrorists holding Gilad Shalit are blaming Shalit's family for his continued captivity.


Colour me shocked!
/if you have to ask then you don't know me.

447 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:25:01am

re: #445 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Right above the comment box, put in your e-mail addy...

448 Bobblehead  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:25:12am

re: #432 christheprofessor

Well I'm glad she is eating again. That, in itself, is a good sign. Give her multiple head scratches and belly rubs from all of us.

449 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:25:32am

re: #444 lawhawk

This is just nuts - the terrorists holding Gilad Shalit are blaming Shalit's family for his continued captivity.

Yep, if he would only convert to islam and leave his Jewish faith behind

/channeling muslim theocratic terrorists

450 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:26:04am

More trouble brewing in Lebanon

BEIRUT, Lebanon: The leader of a Syrian Islamist group claimed in an audio tape aired Sunday that some al-Qaida-inspired militants have left a Palestinian refugee camp in northern Lebanon and hinted they will soon launch attacks.

Abu Jandal al-Dimashqi, the self-declared leader of Tawhid and Jihad in Syria, also mourned the death of Abu Hureira, the deputy leader of Fatah Islam, whose followers inside Nahr el-Bared camp have been battling the Lebanese army since May 20.

The government of Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora announced Aug. 6 that police in the northern port city of Tripoli near Nahr el-Bared had killed Abu Hureira, a Lebanese whose real name is Shehab al-Qaddour.

"The martyrdom of our brother Abu Hureira has fanned the flames," said al-Dimashqi in an audio tape posted on an Islamic Web site. "Let the government of traitor Saniora know that some of Fatah Islam's heroes have left the camp and are now among you. Wait for a black day."

The authenticity of the audio tape could not be verified, but it was posted on a Web site commonly used by Islamic militants.

451 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:26:09am

re: #447 christheprofessor

Done. And I've refreshed.

452 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:26:26am

re: #423 Thanos Gotta tell ya she doesn't look like she's driving all that fast to me!
Course, it mighta helped if my speakers were working, but she still doesn't seem to be speeding or even driving erratically!

453 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:26:40am

re: #448 Bobblehead

Thanks, will do (some more!)...

454 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:28:06am

re: #450 NJDhockeyfan

Ah yes, al quiche, they love the stench of death and (not nearly) soon enough will return to the dirt from which they sprang.

455 Bobblehead  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:28:09am

re: #443 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Really fine tequila=no hangover

456 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:28:10am

On the quit smoking front, I've gained 5 pounds in two weeks. It's either the wine, the chocolate or both.

Question is, do I keep this up (the oral gratification thing) now, or wait till I've been on the Chantix for 12 weeks (in which case I might end up resembling a smeller version of the Hindenburg.)?

457 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:28:37am

re: #426 BabbaZee YO BABBA! How come you won't be back until tomorrow - and have you checked your e-mails lately?!

458 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:28:52am

re: #455 Bobblehead

re: #443 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Really fine tequila=no hangover


Ahhh...it's the same with a really good red wine, champagne too.

459 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:29:24am

re: #436 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

And, dangerous, too!

460 friarstale  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:29:32am

gm all
The Ballad of Scoop Bochamp is on youtube

it's also a video response to Michelle Malkin on the same topic


"former anonymous Private Beauchamp..." funny

461 Carl in Jerusalem  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:29:41am

re: #409 MandyManners

re: #406 Carl in Jerusalem

Are they infected, though?

If they are, no one is admitting it.

462 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:30:49am

re: #432 christheprofessor Huh, memory must be going on me - I thought she had an ultra sound, but wasn't "healthy" enough for the endoscope? Was I wrong about all that?!

463 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:30:50am

re: #459 MandyManners

re: #436 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

And, dangerous, too!


Yeah, there is that hanging hazzard to consider as well.

464 docremulac  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:30:58am

#373 MandyManners 8/12/2007 7:35:58 am PDT reply quote report

re: #368 docremulac

"But, the article stated that the cops hadn't found evidence of one."

Indian cops might be under some different orders in reporting terrorist attacks, I don't know. I suppose anything's possible, but let's look at what's in an air conditioner. There's an electric motor, that's not going to blow up, there's a pump to circulate the freon or other material to facilitate the cooling, and then there's the coolant that goes under pressure to the coils where the heat's taken out by a fan blowing outside air over them, then it gets sprayed to a much lower pressure into another set of coils like when you push an aerosol can and it gets cold. Then another fan blows the room air over this seperate set of coils containing the cold stuff. Whatever liquid is being used it's not going to be flammable. High pressure pump systems can break apart I suppose but with enough force to kill someone? The other kind of air conditioner is an evaporative cooler that just rains water down on air coils and the evaporation cools the air just like if you were to spray water on your face on a hot day. That system would be about as prone to explosion as a decorative fountain in the middle of the park.

I'm not an engineer though, I just pretend to be one to try to impress the chicks. Maybe somebody out there with more knowledge of such things could rein me in on my armature engineering forensics here.

465 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:31:10am

re: #456 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

On the quit smoking front, I've gained 5 pounds in two weeks. It's either the wine, the chocolate or both.

Question is, do I keep this up (the oral gratification thing) now, or wait till I've been on the Chantix for 12 weeks (in which case I might end up resembling a smeller version of the Hindenburg.)?

Hey, go with the dark chocolate as it has fewer callories. Also the smoking mucks with your metabolism and you will gain some weight. As far as diets go, you've got one battle going and you don't need to open another front. Wish you the best in your struggle.

466 friarstale  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:31:51am

of course, the wickedly hilarious slideshow is on cruxy as well, getting in some digs on TNR, Dan Rather, and the Beauchamp-Reeves
[Link: cruxy.com...]

467 docremulac  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:31:52am

I could use some help with my amateur spelling too.

468 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:31:55am

re: #451 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

On the way -- subject line is "Best Dog Pics"...

469 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:33:11am

re: #462 realwest

No, she's had x-rays but no ultrasound or endoscopy yet...

470 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:33:23am

re: #439 Perplexed Um, iirc (and you can't count on my memory of stuff that happened over 35 years ago!) basic trainees were Pvt E-1's.

471 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:34:27am

re: #442 christheprofessor Well! That explains it then!
LOL!

472 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:36:32am

re: #470 realwest

re: #439 Perplexed Um, iirc (and you can't count on my memory of stuff that happened over 35 years ago!) basic trainees were Pvt E-1's.

Likewise, mine was from summer of '71 at Lackland AFB. i thought that basice trainees were E-0 up until they graduated. No rights-sub human-good only for grunt work.

473 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:36:33am

re: #403 MandyManners

re: #396 lucius septimius

HA! You rebel, you.

What's the history of the tie?

I guess since coz is gone, I must supply the trivia.

The modern necktie is the descendant of the cravat, a form of neckwear that dates back to the fourteenth century at least. Initially it was a cloth one wrapped around the neck to keep one's doublet clean. In the most basic sense, it was a napkin, but also a sweatband (no way to fight "ring around the collar" in those days) and was chiefly worn by soldiers. The earliest common use comes from Spain in the sixteenth century; from there it spread to France and Italy. It was used as a practical substitute for the ruff , the more dressy collar decoration.

The more modern tie was popularized in France and Continental Europe in the seventeenth century. There is evidence that the decline of the ruff was associated with the economic decline and rejection of Renaissance excess during the time of the Thirty Years' War (1618-1648). Art shows that by 1650, the ruff had been almost entirely replaced by the cravat. In part the new fashion probably reflected the wartime mood -- it was as a soldier, not a courtier, that the aristocrat wished to represent himself.

Of course fashion could not resist messing with it. In the court of Louis XIV the simple cravat was elaborated with the addition of lace. They also became bigger and more elaborate. A famous family portrait shows the range of cravats at the end of the seventeenth century, still basically a cloth tied around the throat. (Wikipedia says it was brought into England by Charles II, but that only applies to the Louis XIV style -- there is graphic evidence of it from the 1630s. )

The basic cravat remained in force through the eighteenth century, although it was simplified over time. There were difference in different countries regarding the size of the cloth and the way it was tied. In the eighteenth century Italy emerged as the source of new styles, and the form of cravat popular at the end of the century was affected by "macaronis" and continental wannabes like Thomas Jefferson. More extreme forms were associate with the "Incroyables" who affected gigantic collars and huge fantastic cravats.

In the nineteenth century, the cravat got smaller, and by the end of the 1820s were no longer white -- colored silks and simple black ties became more common.

By the end of the nineteenth century, the form of the tie became less loose and more formed. After 1900 they became thinner, and since that time the major change has been width. Pre WWI was the age of thin ties. The late forties saw ties as wide and loud as they would ever be, until the god-awful 70s.

474 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:37:55am

re: #411 christheprofessor

I'm doing fine, though I've spent a lot of time answering Mandy's question.

Glad to hear about the dog. Lucius the Cat seems to finally have passed all the cr*p that had been clogging up his system. He's in a much better mood, as one can imagine.

475 LanceKates  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:38:41am

re: #439 Perplexed

Eh, Kerry had a group of guys who served WITH HIM, talking about how useless he was and they were degraded by the left, and even defamed by people who were SUPPOSED to be 'no spin' Conseratives media people (who were, instead, pandering for an interview)

If eyewitness accounts and personal testimony get covered up and dismissed, what is the internet going to do (especially when it can be so quickly written off as 'some anonymous people on the inetnet.')

476 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:39:43am

re: #474 Lucius Septimius

Heh. I'm glad the cat is feeling better -- ornery cats can be mean!

477 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:40:18am

re: #417 christheprofessor

re: #396 lucius septimius

I have a friend who drinks gin martinis, because he says he wants people to know he's drunk, not stupid...

Love it!

The wife had to go out to get more tonic water. Gotta get my daily dose of quinine, ya know. Oh, and limes for vitamin C. Purely for my health.

478 realwest  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:41:24am

re: #477 Lucius Septimius "Purely for my health."
But of course!

479 wanumba  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:41:50am

re: #377 Born Again Republican
WHat a nice comment! Thanks! That photo Thanos had might have looked doctored or enhanced, but truly it's like that.
Unless the fog settles in and then ...yeech. No flights - sometimes for weeks! the plane's ceiling was 17,000 if I remember correctly and the ranges there were 19,000 and up.

And that road - we almost spent the night on the roadside, steep rock slope on the right, and sheer drop to the left - and a mudslide splat in the middle. That's when I learned that "mudslide" has rocks in it. Two hours of slopping thru two feet of mud to pick out rocks the size of bowling balls - just enough clearance to ram the van through. The driver gunned it,and it fished tailed through the now semi-rockless center, fifty foot stretch of mud, and sliding and weaving - no guard rail, just a drop to the boiling river below - 100 feet down. He made it - guess our horrified prayers were all heard by a merciful God. We all walked through, sinking up to our calves in the draining ooze and got back in to make it to Gilgit at night, just two hours late. But alive, so who cared? They lost a taxi a month, easily, but it wasn't ours that day. (whew!)

480 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:41:57am

re: #475 LanceKates

That was then. Now it is much harder for anyone to do that because the information is out there. I remember reading about how politicos would tailor their speeches to the people they pandered to. You can't easily do that today, since what you say now goes live and everyone hears it.

481 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:43:07am

re: #477 Lucius Septimius

Heh. I once sliced the tip of my thumb while cutting a lime for a G&T. On the backstroke, too, so it dragged some of that nice, tangy limejuice in as it sliced -- didn't feel too good...

482 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:43:10am

re: #427 MandyManners

re: #415 VMI84

Kerry got away with it because there was no Internet back then. I don't see Beauchamp doing so. Thousands of people are onto him and his editorial bosses.

Of course this is why the Stalinists in the DNC want to shut down or "regulate" the web. How DARE folks like those here muddy the waters with things like facts and reason.

483 wanumba  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:45:23am

re: #430 MandyManners
Bow Ties?
I had a vision of that little toddler in Baby's Day Out. You didn't do that to him, did you? (:-P)

484 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:46:22am

re: #481 christheprofessor

re: #477 Lucius Septimius

Heh. I once sliced the tip of my thumb while cutting a lime for a G&T. On the backstroke, too, so it dragged some of that nice, tangy limejuice in as it sliced -- didn't feel too good...

Kinky!

/Harvey Korman voice off.

485 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:46:57am

Gotta run for a minute -- Baby Girl just dumped Legos in my coffee.

486 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:49:32am

re: #468 christheprofessor

I got it, thanks! I sent a reply to you as well.

487 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:49:35am

re: #482 Lucius Septimius

re: #427 MandyManners

re: #415 VMI84

Kerry got away with it because there was no Internet back then. I don't see Beauchamp doing so. Thousands of people are onto him and his editorial bosses.

Of course this is why the Stalinists in the DNC want to shut down or "regulate" the web. How DARE folks like those here muddy the waters with things like facts and reason.

There was a troll named Um Yeah, who attended a junior college so he could eventually become a lawyer. His postings had a strong sexual undercurrent. Told him on more than one occasion that the internet doesn't forget and that if he was using the "I'm a lawyer so want to go into politics springboard" that he'd better clean up his act. Nearly 100% of the blogs he was on banned him.

488 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:50:51am

re: #487 Perplexed

I try to tell students all the time to be careful about what they post -- employers do look.

489 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:50:58am

re: #477 Lucius Septimius

re: #417 christheprofessor


re: #396 lucius septimius

I have a friend who drinks gin martinis, because he says he wants people to know he's drunk, not stupid...


Love it!

The wife had to go out to get more tonic water. Gotta get my daily dose of quinine, ya know. Oh, and limes for vitamin C. Purely for my health.

Of course. One must prevent the skurvy and all.

490 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:51:29am

re: #485 Lucius Septimius

Gotta run for a minute -- Baby Girl just dumped Legos in my coffee.

LOL!

491 LanceKates  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:51:33am

re: #480 Perplexed

That's very true, but you have to remember... we're here on LGF. we're part of the blogs. we pay attention.

The average dem works a job, goes home and watches CBS or ABC news (if we're lucky) then American Idol and Big Brother, then goes to bed watching Letterman. I would bet that if you polled 1000 people NOT at LGF (or any of the blogs that specifically have worked with the Beauchamp story, including TNR to be fair), you'd only find about 1/3 of the people have maybe heard the 'shock troops' story, and maybe only 1/10th of those people heard anything about it being fake.

The information IS out there, but people who WOULD support such a person early on isn't going to look. (and if a conservative showed them, they'd just pass it off as the lies, like they did with the swifties.)

492 wanumba  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:52:15am

Oh, as far as that pesky thread subject goes, The New Republic is just saying all this to continue to perpetuate another favorite Left angle of the anti-military myth they've been pushing from the get-go.
All they have to do is retain credibility amongst their usual audience. No one else matters. Therefore, "Truther-style" insinuating that the military is covering up Beauchamp plays perfectly to the home TNR crowd. It's assinine to everyone else, who are applying the time-tested Occam's Razor - Beauchamp wrote fiction and passed it off as fact - but the rest of us all weren't subscribers, and never will be, so we don't count.

493 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:52:21am

re: #491 LanceKates

Mornin' Lance. How are you this fine day?

494 christheprofessor  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:52:50am

re: #486 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Cool. Got it and responded...

495 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:53:05am

re: #473 Lucius Septimius

I love a man in a cravat. Those ruffs that were ever so popular at court must have made if rough to nibble on a beloved's ear! Then again I also find a well tied, full Windsor incredibly sexy.

496 LanceKates  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:54:37am

re: #493 Lucius Septimius

Eh, I'm alive. heh. Went to a party last night. Didn't really enjoy myself. Doesn't make sense to pay money to sit at a party and have people NOT talk to you... I can do that free at home. heh.

497 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:55:43am

re: #495 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

But the cravat can be useful for cleanup later.

Or so they say ...

498 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 8:56:32am

re: #491 LanceKates


Yep, yep and yep.

People, for the most part, have become intellectually lazy. There really is no excuse for this, especially in the age of the internet. Then again, no one learns critical thinking any more and critical thinking is a skill that can be taught to those without in inborn sense of curiosity.

499 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:00:55am

re: #497 Lucius Septimius

re: #495 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

But the cravat can be useful for cleanup later.

Or so they say ...

OMG.

LOL

Blush

What can I say to that?

500 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:02:51am

re: #491 LanceKates

That's one of the things I like about this site. People over here are usually pretty polite without having politeness enforced by Charles. Hey, when memory fails someone steps in. Pretty good.

501 rick554  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:05:11am

I DO have faith that other "Swift Boat Vets for Truth" will stand up and help another generation remember these traitor/cowards. The Internet HAS changed history , re; immigration getting stuffed down our throats by our "leaders". This isnt over by a long shot , but our TROOPS have taken away the battlfield from ALQUIDA and brought the Battle to DC where WE can win. I write , call or email at least 1 congresscritter a day. Everyone should let our voices be heard . Its well past time to take a stand .
GOD bless our TROOPS and G W Bush! Dick Cheny too!
Rick554

502 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:05:47am

Ohhh...jumping to the next thread...this should be fun!

503 wanumba  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:05:50am

Wonder if Beauchamp is aware that his apparent silence can be used by TNR to push the "muzzled" accusation they are massaging. It's not crazy, it'd be in his apparent interest to promote that, too, better than "liar."
The guy wrote disparagingly about others, sniffing that people around him didn't appreciate his great intellect, like he was "smarter than the average bear." Too bad that is also is a documented characteristic of socio-paths.

504 Lucius Septimius  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:06:10am

re: #499 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #497 Lucius Septimius


LOL

Blush

What can I say to that?

Hey, you were the one who brought up the ear nibbling. LOL.

505 Born Again Republican  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:09:24am

re: #479 wanumba

Good gracious! You must have been born under a lucky star. You're a very descriptive writer, thanks for telling the story.

506 LanceKates  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:20:31am

re: #498 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I'm about to start schooling to get a BA in teaching high school math.

Once I get that over with (2 years) and get a couple years under my belt in a school, I want to introduce a "Critical Thinking" or "Logical Thinking" course.

If we could arm students with a METHOD of thinking rationally (as compared to what PASSES for rational), maybe we could stave off future doom.

507 LanceKates  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:23:04am

re: #500 Perplexed

I haven't been here as long as some, but longer than others.

There are flame wars like with any blog, differences of opinion that get out of hand.

But, in the end, people really do understand that we are on the same side in a war for America.

508 cookielady  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:24:32am

re: #438 NJDhockeyfan

This is the reason why people have come here. To show their support for a single, unified, Islamic state.

And they partied like it was 999.

Shouldn't you flip those numbers upside-down?
-and am I allowed to say target-rich environment?

509 Thanos  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:26:54am

re: #452 realwest

re: #423 Thanos Gotta tell ya she doesn't look like she's driving all that fast to me!
Course, it mighta helped if my speakers were working, but she still doesn't seem to be speeding or even driving erratically!


ahh -- the best part is the series of 911 calls playing in the background from other motorists. Also note that she is stating that she was not drunk, but driving erratically due to her cancer medication.

510 shanec99  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:29:40am

You know when I read re: #410 carridine

You know when I read You know when I read this about Arafat possibly dying of AIDS in 2004, it makes me wonder. Does anyone recall that he donated blood for the victims of 9/11.

[Link: www.pac-usa.org...]

Is it possible that he knew he was infected back in 9/11 and donated intentionally yo add insult to injury?

I am wondering, I don't know if he was HIV positive when he donated, but here is what I do know, lass than three years after he donated blood for Americans killed by Islamic militants the evidence suggests that he may have died of AIDS.

I wonder.

511 badsysop  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:43:25am

Scott BeauCHUMP probably has alienated his fellow soldiers.

If it is made public that a member of your company is talking serious trash (lies) about everyone, it would be a good bet that this guy is getting all the crap details and being treated less than wonderful.

After burning human waste and trash, after doing KP for weeks on end, after doing tons of manual labor outside in the summer... I'm guessing his tune can be changed from Mr. Lying left-wing idiot to Mr. Quiet.

Why people like that would join the military is beyond me. But I'm sure there are more than one shills walking around in uniform for the lefty morons of the internet.

512 wanumba  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 9:54:01am

re: #506 LanceKates
Good for you!
You'd like this: Our son got a former Special Ops Vietnam Ranger for an English teacher during high school. (Don't see that every day in English class!)
He still recalls the day they were finishing up, "Of Mice and Men" and the teacher asked the students, "SO, what do you think of the ending?"
They all squirmed in their seats, not having any idea. He looked at them and announced, "He should have turned him early in to be executed!"
Our son was one of the first of the students to pick his jaw off the floor. He said later, "The guy was right. There was no reason for all that to have gone on so long for nothing. Nobody liked the book, because it was pointless, but everyone is always told what a great writer Steinbeck was, so no one wanted to say anything. It was great, the teacher basically showed that we don't have to accept this mush as truth."

WOuld have loved to take an English class from that guy. His comments were incredible - he came to the classroom with a very firm understanding of right and wrong, learned in the jungles of Vietnam, human foibles and human courage. He brilliantly applied those insights to the literature - teasing out what kids didn't see, and challenged the slack and wishy-washy morality of too much of the standard fare pushed today on students as "important."

If we could toss out the Liberal Left"educators" who don't even respect teaching but suffocate and propagandise with "facilitating," replace them with a fresh generation of soldiers who've seen something of the world and who have learned what moral lessons apply to the world and which don't, are used to training, used to imparting skills to new people, know the value of having competency in a foreign language and now what it takes to teach one well, know why math is important - and that practice makes perfect, that familiarity with calculations actually could save a life - making it all real and relevent, we'd transform the system overnight. Kids would stop dropping out of school from frsutration and boredom.

513 baconeatingkaffir  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:07:43pm

re: #512 wanumba

Wanumba, I agree. In highschool I had a teacher, similar to the guy your son has... a former Vietnam SF troop. He was allright and actually encouraged us to think and not regurgitate the answers we all took foregranted.
We used to have bombthreats (this was at a NATO base in Europe mid '80s) and while we were outside we'd still continue class or he'd teach us phrases of laotion or vietnamese. ;) Mister D. I don't know where you are now but I really hope you're still in teaching because you have motivated about 4 out of our class to become teachers.

514 wanumba  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:13:14pm

re: #513 baconeatingkaffir
Neat!
More and faster! Am all for our military invading and occupying our nation's classrooms! (:D)

515 baconeatingkaffir  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 12:17:34pm

I agree. I'm a veteran and I'm teaching ESL in Turkey. I know a few others here as well. I think ESL is suited to veterans based on our exposure to different countries,cultures, and lifestyles. Also, I'd prefer to see more veterans in this career field becuase they know how to behave themselves overseas. :)

516 wanumba  Sun, Aug 12, 2007 3:07:17pm

re: #515 baconeatingkaffir
That's an understatement! It's true!
The lax manners and sullen comportment of our Liberal Left-educated and nutured American children are already getting a bad reputation overseas. People still are more formal overseas - everywhere, city to village. This next generation of American kids have not even been taught how to shake hands and greet people - a HUGE failing, ESPECIALLY when dealing with people from or in foreign cultures. The Southerners have a regional cultural advantage over the Northerners - more Southern kids can still be heard saying, "Yes Sir, Yes Ma'am."
I really hope we get more retired military into the US education system - it would revitalize the entire system - fresh, disciplined and internationally saavy - would have to dismantle the monopoly lock the Left has on hiring and certifying teachers - but it'd be well worth the fight.


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