Huffpo is worse. They pretend they're professionals and accountable.

Insane and more insane.

Is this a test or an option?

hard to say, they're both so interesting to observe. Until nausea sets in, of course.

Huffpo is more vitrioloc and appealing to the common Liberal.

That's like asking if hairballs are worse than puke.

Dennis Prager has had Glenn Greenwald on for the past hour, but Charles only got 20 minutes.

OTOH, Dennis is giving Glenn a real bitch-slapping.

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My apologies to the Lizards who are eating at their desks.

oh you know that whole thing is a total joke when someone in the comments section says RON PAUL!

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So many deranged comments there I hardly know where to begin.

Obviously a rhetorical question along the lines of:

Who was worse, Hitler or Stalin?

Answer: They both suck.

I gotta confess - I have never been to either one ...

I don't ever follow the links to huffpo or kos. Blech.

They are both equally insane, I say it's a draw.

re: #15 Bobibutu

I gotta confess - I have never been to either one ...

Trust me, you are not missing anything except maybe a bout of indigestion.

huff po is the worst. common sense sometimes seeps into the comments on kos, but never on huff po.

Kos, because it's not just the comments that are bad, but some of the diary posts as well.

re: #19 dhimmi smits

huff po is the worst. common sense sometimes seeps into the comments on kos, but never on huff po.

common sense

How often is "common sense" allowed to stand at Kos before it is banned or deleted?

"It's a floor wax!"
"It's a dessert topping!"

"Relax, you two. It's both"

I keep hoping that one day I'm not surprised at the level of vitriol, but somehow they manage to out do themselves.

From someone named "Lane":

"YEAH Castlerider, right on! Well said! I agree wholeheartedly! Those who don't believe that 9/11 was a hoax to scare us into giving up our minds through fear manipulation so they could steal middle eastern oil, are absolutely braindead."

This person needs to watch the 9/11 South Park episode, because he is one of the 1/4th of Americans who are morons. They say George Bush is a monkey and a moron, but give him more than enough credit for putting together what would have been the most elaborate government conspiracy every concocted, and executed absolutely flawlessly. Why is it that with loony Dems everything is a conspiracy theory. The bridge collapse, a direct result of GOP policies. The Earthquake in Peru, well that was just GWB pushing his little earthquake button so we can secretly infiltrate the Peruvian society and take it over. WTF!

Huffpo without a doubt

re: #14 Leonidas Hoplite

Obviously a rhetorical question along the lines of:

Who was worse, Hitler or Stalin?

Answer: They both suck.

I gotta go with this...

Maybe Huff cause it's founder was an actual somebody before creating it...Kos is just a wannabe who happend to fill a niche

At the HuffPo, Castlerider concludes his brilliant think-piece with:

"That's just ONE reason why we need Al Gore. Gore/Edwards in '08"

This is hands-down the funniest thing I have ever read.

That is like asking whether you want your poison in pink or blue. Who cares which is worse? For that matter, how do you even define "worse" when you apply the term to sheer lunacy?

what a bunch of angry nutjobs...

Neither are important. We have a long history of insane pamphleteering in this great democracy. We can ignore them, mock them or get down in the mud and try and save a few of them.

What's important is that a major political party is using an insane pamphlet as their ideological base. This is our era's great trouble.

oh you know that whole thing is a total joke when someone in the comments section says RON PAUL!

True. Wherever idiots gather en masse, you'll find Ron Paul supporters.

Muslim delegation visits Israel, earns wide condemnation

The only good thing to ever come out of HuffPo was Huffington's Toast which had way too short of a life.

Its beyond aggrivating that most of these people watch Loose Change a bunch and then consider themselves to be experts on the subject. Loose Change was made by a few early 20s guys in their bedroom. Do they really believe that of everyone on earth...those were the ones to figure out exactly what happened on 9/11?

re: #10 MandyManners

My apologies to the Lizards who are eating at their desks.

None needed, that was quite funny.

re: #32 cbinflux

their Zionist masters are calling...

Yeah, I have a response "HUH"?!?!?!

LyingLoserLunatic libs...'Huff, I mean, 'Nuff said...

Dang! these folks are nuttier than fruitcakes. Just wondering, what percentage of voting Americans do you think are represented here? How worried should I be?

The whole thing over what Bush should have done in those 3 minutes, 7 minutes, 10 minutes and now 18 minutes after the planes hit give me a headache!

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Huff Po is the streaming whale poop; Kos is the bubble that floats to the surface.

I would lean toward Huffpo being worse than kos.
My reason?
Huffpo fields many "well known" people spout garbage without much correction.
And their "fans" follow them.

Kos is mostly just the kidz.

When the kos kidz sound silly they only preach to their own choir, but Huffpo's tactic is to fill the empty heads of the daytime TV crowd and lean them more and more to the left.

Huffpo by far most huffies are not allowed to have sharp objects in their possession.

re: #24 Sizzlack

Lane also said that he is scared to death about his future and the future of this country.

Given that he post on HuffPo, I'm scared for him too.

re: #35 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I had something much grosser on the tip of my tongue. I am quite juvenile at times.

Zapped! Man Charged With Shining Super-Power Laser at Airplanes
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I think they are both poopie heads.

Can we get back to the real news?

In my experience it's a mixed bag as far as the blogposts are concerned, but the sheer venom of the commenters at the HuffPost are far worse than Kos, where they're at least policed to some extent.

As far as Kos and The Huffster herself, they're equally detestable.

Like saying whats worse:
An anal fissure or an anal cyst?

re: #24 Sizzlack

Discuss: This country would pull out of it's tailspin if basic logic were taught in the schools and at home.

Why choose? And why leave out DU?

They are a troika of pseudo-intellectual pablum, who pander to conspiracy theorists, anti-Semites, and have such a disdain and disregard for the US that they routinely side with anti-US leaders around the world reflexively.

Equal insanity.

"Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results."

re: #49 ted

I just threw up a little in my mouth!

re: #41 holden mcgroyn

*snicker*

I'm still trying to figure out Arianna Huffington. She's a conservative until her hubby leaves her and moves in with his boyfriend, then she becomes a flaming lib nutcase...Any psychiatrists or psychologists here?

re: #27 daledog

"That's just ONE reason why we need Al Gore. Gore/Edwards in '08"

The other is the political cartoonists of America need more easy source material. Neither is a GOOD reason, mind you...

The main posts, topics and diaries are worse at Kos but the commentors are far more insane at HuufPo. When I first started reading the threads there I was absolutely shocked at the level of crazy hatred.

ThinkProgress is almost as bad as HuffPo but gets far less comments.

BTW - ThinkProgress' comments are open to one and all, so if you ever feel like being a troll at a Leftwing hate-site TP is the place to go.

Huffpo vs Kos? Well, a steak is a steak like LGF, but these two are both hot dogs! BTW can you send Ellen Goodman at the Boston Globe the link for the Michael Shaw piece...better yet, how do I send her the post and the comments WITHOUT going to the site or having to even look at this hateful site. Just joking! Please keep up the great work.

Hey! A hat tip! Whoo-hoo!

These people make me sick. HuffPo is by FAR worse, in that mainstream people (Harry Shearer, Joe Lieberman, Alec Baldwin... okay, a stretch, admittedly) post there, and they mix in almost seamlessly with the sick, deranged bLLLogers on the site.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the future of the Democrat party. Huff-po, Kos, the nutroots in general, all signs of a party that will be run by the same whack-jobs who couldn't get the Green Party off the ground, and now must take down the oldest and at one time most respected party in the union.

The Commies actually won the cold war; it just took a little longer for their plants in academia and journalism to finally start bearing fruit. Generations that believe in real freedom (and the sacrifices that must be given to maintain it) will die off, and this once great country will cease to exist as we know it.

re: #44 daledog

re: #24 Sizzlack

Lane also said that he is scared to death about his future and the future of this country.

Given that he post on HuffPo, I'm scared for him too.

Its amazing how that works. They are scared for their future because of the people we mostly support. I am scared for my future because of the people they mostly support. Im sorry if Mr/Ms Lane doesn't like this thing we call REALITY but its a rude awakening. The world isnt filled with daisys and singing maidens, its filled with lots of psychos with weapons who want to kill us. I live in NYC, I dont think about terrorism once when I walk around, the government has not succeded in scaring me into voting for them. I dont get what the hell they are talking about most of the time.

re: #53 Spenser (with an S)

Sorry...I just couldn't resist!

September 5th? Thompson Talks Announcement Timing

The old duck is presumptive, possible, potential cacdidate

Huffpo has had to shut down their comments section a couple of times. Has KOS?

re: #18 Judith

And don't forget the occasional hairball.

That article is absurd. Shaw realizes how absurd his claims are so he calls it "visual forensics" to make it sound legit. What's worse, after stringing together a theory more complicated than JFK's assassination, the commenters drink the kool-aid and say stuff like

Isn't it amazing that with all the damning evidence that no one seems able to indict or impeach this administration?

Oh, it's just sooo obvious isn't it? Somehow I don't think that blathering rants like "...the American flag neatly framed under Dan Bartlett's arm..." will make its way into an impeachment hearing.

The really scary thing is that this tool actually believes what he's writing.

Visual forensics? Please!

More like...wishful halucinations.

Here's some advice...lay off the MJ.

re: #18 Judith

re: #15 Bobibutu

I gotta confess - I have never been to either one ...

Trust me, you are not missing anything except maybe a bout of indigestion.

Thanks ... I can get overheated with just the MSM.

So, "Screw Em", by the Kos himself, isn't equally wrong and disgusting as anything at HuffPo?

Sheesh!

Markos, himself, celebrated the brutal murders of four Americans, and said that they, and any like them (you and me) deserved it?

Sheesh!

How is that photo damning of Bush? The article makes no sense.

re: #67 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Visual forensics? Please!

More like...wishful halucinations.

priceless

"Battered liberal Disorder"

In a nutshell.

Thanks Rush!

IMO, I think HuffPo:

I think most KosKidz would test out in the Mildly Mentally retarded range with some Organic Dementia.

HuffPos are a bit brighter Sociopaths.

Here's a funny from a commenter named castlerider (wouldn't that chap the legs a bit?)

One thing for sure we should console ourselves with is.. At least we're talking about it, at least we're bloggin, gettin' the truth and doin' some etchin' in stone so we can spout off a thing or two about what we absolutely know under no uncertain terms, and maybe turn around some braindead fellow human and help 'em wake the F_ up!

Oh, where do I begin?

I really cant even stand to enter the realm of Kosland or HuffPo...it just makes me pissed off, and raises my BP...

Being 20 minutes from 9/11 locale a good deal of time over the years, these moonbats at Huff-poo need a draconian lesson.

I never looked at Huffpo comments before. Why is everyone a fan of themselves?

I never go to either one...from the looks of it, I'm not missing much. I LIKE my I.Q. where it is, thank you very much. (Not that anyone in the MSM thinks a person like me has a good I.Q. But that's another matter entirely.)

Liberals don't like suffering, and they never do it alone.

I totally agree with Charles that PuffHo is worse. I never read them now. My experience of PuffHo is uniformly disgusting, so I avoid it like the plague. I call them PuffHo for a reason - they are incredibly loathsome, while at the same time avoiding even a semblance of reason or positive purpose. I can read loathsome reason; I can read polite nonsense. I just don't have time for loathsome nonsense.

I occasionally read Kos. I even find people on Kos I agree with - perhaps a minority, but there. I dislike their format, but not everyone can be as creative as Charles.

"My Pet Goat"

It is “The Pet Goat”—and it is not a book but an exercise in a workbook called “Reading Mastery 2.”

The can't even get the most basic facts right and we're supposed to believe their "in depth" analysis of body language to prove something?

Idiots.

I have to actually work for a few minutes...oh, so many new threads and so little free time on the job.

After reading that piece of left wing propaganda, I have only one thing to say.

These people are nothing short of evil.

To spend that much time and effort on one picture just to smear the president?

Lets tell the truth. What did these BASTARDS expect the president do?

Shoot down every airliner in the sky?
Nuke Saudi Arabia?
Declare war?

No. The only goddamn thing these evil bastards have ever called for or expected was for the President to CALL THE EFFING UN and get a CONSENSUS TO DO NOTHING BUT WRING HANDS AND HAVE EMPATHY FOR THE TERRORISTS.

THAT Michael Shaw, is all you little pissant libs would want or call for.

Think I am wrong?
Have you ever heard ONE of these shit heads say what SHOULD have been done? Nope. Nadda. Zilch.
American hating bastards is all they are.

/PS. If it was the Clintonistsas in charge they would also have ordered a POLL be taken to see what actions should be taken to make them look good. Bill would have had to decide what hair color to use when he went before the cameras and Hilary would have had to decide what pant suite to wear.

For myself, to say that HuffPo is the worst, means that you're saying that the Kos is a notch above.

Wow, I just read the whole article and a handful of the comments...These people just want to believe that he is incompetent and will look at any evidence and come to their own conclusions, they hated him from the beginning...What I see is his speech on the table and him on the phones...The speech could of been there the whole time and he is on the phone taking care of business...This picture proves nothing, if anything he is on the phone with the national guard or security personnel giving orders to protect america...Remember that we still had no idea what the hell was going on...Im not the biggest bush fan but I believe in my heart him and his advisors were doing the best that they could with the knowledge they had at the time...and Im an independent by the way :)

My vote goes to Huffin'N'Puffin. They allow so many comments calling for the death, the real death, of anybody who dare say they are a Republican. I don't know how many threads they have tried to purge because of all the death threats against Cheney, Rove and Bush. Her followers are slightly deranged.
KosKiddies seem more of the fraternity types who just want to belong to the kewl kids crowd. Most of the comments after the first 10 are merely echoes. So in between high fives while playing video games they go copy and paste a comment into the threads and maybe change a word and high five their buddies again.

re: #58 Sue62

Huffpo vs Kos? Well, a steak is a steak like LGF, but these two are both hot dogs!

Dunno, I've had some ballpark hot dogs that were really, really good. And cost more than grilling a steak at home.

LGF is like a properly aged and refrigerated steak; DKos and HuffPo are like a steak left out in the sun for a few days.

It's a interesting day when we at LGF are debating who may be worse, betwen the HuffPo and the Kos.

I guess some people don't see "Screw Em" as that big a deal.

That came straight from the owner.

That is the only instance, that I have ever needed to know, that Markos would celebrate my murder at the hands of islamofascist human butchers.

This sounds like a game my 13-year-old likes to play on long car trips: "Would you rather have all you skin stripped off and then be dipped in a vat of lemon juice or else have to read nothing but HuffPo and Kos for the rest of your life?"

After reading the comments (Okay, okay, I stopped after about four of them), I wanted to shake my head and forget about them. But are there really just a few of these nuts with many sock-puppets online? Or, like a bad sci-fi flick, are they everywhere around us?

Just take a look at the people you pass and deal with on some level every day--barber, waitress, cab driver, DMV clerk, dentist--and imagine if a large number of them were this stark raving loony.

On second thought, I don't want to think that. Yikes.

re: #74 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Here's a funny from a commenter named castlerider (wouldn't that chap the legs a bit?)

One thing for sure we should console ourselves with is.. At least we're talking about it, at least we're bloggin, gettin' the truth and doin' some etchin' in stone so we can spout off a thing or two about what we absolutely know under no uncertain terms, and maybe turn around some braindead fellow human and help 'em wake the F_ up!

Oh, where do I begin?

what we absolutely know under no uncertain terms...so unless Castlerider was a structural engineer that worked at Ground Zero, Im going to assume hes pulling a Rosie and stating things like Loose Change as fact. If we start to go down that road, that means that Oliver Stones JFK is fact, as is James Camerons Titanic. This is ridiculous.

#86 Justagrunt

My vote goes to Huffin'N'Puffin. They allow so many comments calling for the death, the real death, of anybody who dare say they are a Republican. I don't know how many threads they have tried to purge because of all the death threats against Cheney, Rove and Bush. Her followers are slightly deranged.

They are bunch of chicken revolutionaries.
They really believe that bull crap, let em man up, take up arms, and do something about it. Man the barricades ya bunch of cowards!

I think the percentage of restraing orders is slightly higher amomg huffsters than that of the koz kiddies.

re: #61 Sizzlack

Sizzlack - I love your name. I can't help but think about Mo with a fake mustache cowering in the immigration room filling out his papers.

re: #93 bulwrk

pimf
restraining

Huffin' Sumthin' for sure.

I have posted a couple of comments on Huffpo. They do sometimes have posters that try to tell them they might have things wrong. I have read posts there that you never would have seen on Kos.

However, I read this post this morning and was going to make a comment but I know it would have been useless. They are so superior in that "everyone knows" that ___, just fill in the blank.

As for hate, I believe Huffpo just may edge out Kos. The Huffies seem to be all about anger. Yesterday they were freaking out about the "domestic spy satellites", the constitution having been destroyed, all of our civil rights gone.

I almost feel sorry for them because they seem to get no joy from their lives, just deep angst and anger. It must be hard to be so joyless.

And, why, if the liberals are so pro-gay, why do they accuse those who disagree with them on any subject "gay"?

HuffPo is frequently has to disable comments. I think that says it all.

I really do feel sorry for some of those people on Huffpo. They are seriously detached from reality.

re: #98 Ward Cleaver

HuffPo is frequently has to disable comments. I think that says it all.

PIMF! Gah!

Kent Brockman commenting on Michael Shaw's article:

"Strong words. Strong, bewildering words."

What is worse, trash or scum? It's so hard to choose.

Get a load of Michael Shaw's Bio:

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A load indeed.

long believed that the Huffington Post is much worse, with a commenting “community” that thinks nothing of open antisemitism, conspiracy theories, or calling for assassination of public figures.

That's a good point. Huffington has the cachet of more "establishment" with the level of raw wealth behind her - including private jets and schmoozing in rarified circles. Arianna Huff shows on TV more frequently than Markos as a legit commentator one suspects because she has the illusion of reasonableness, with the sophisticated clothes, the accent, the poise - appealing to folks who admire that "Euro-look." Kos comes off rougher and more coarse, but what is entertained on that Huff blog gives Kos a serious run for his money.

re: #92 hous bin pharteen

Only if they can man the barricades from mommy's basement.

re: #103 daledog
Wow! People go to him for therapy?!

Haven't been to Kos but a couple of times, Huff, never. But from what is said here, Huff probably keeps the Secret Service busy and Kos keeps the pharma industry going due to the ongoing blood pressure epidemic they cause.

Both sites provide proof that liberals are the enemy within.

Kinda like asking which is nastier, pigcrap or chicken crap. Both are pretty vile, but chicken crap (HuffPo) is the worst.

Waiting for Charles' update letting us know that Kos has melted down as a result of the Padilla verdict...

Question...has anyone ever done the math to see exactly what it would cost to round all these deranged delusional dimwits up and put them in an institution under heavy sedation for their and our protection? I really think putting all these moonbats on thorazine would be well worth the cost in the long run. Just a thought...

Whether you've got the runs or fishing bobbers, it's still poop.

re: #10 MandyManners

lol, thanks Mandy!

re: #111 tronman

Question...has anyone ever done the math to see exactly what it would cost to round all these deranged delusional dimwits up and put them in an institution under heavy sedation for their and our protection? I really think putting all these moonbats on thorazine would be well worth the cost in the long run. Just a thought...

Karl Rove and Dick Cheney!
/

Kos and Huffpoo each have so many astounding qualities that its really difficult to pick the real loser between them. Just a shade of difference in the color of their excrement.

Actually, currently, HuffPoo is worse.

However, since Kos is an American-born citizen (unlike Arianna), affording him the opportunity to successfully run for president, in the long-run, Kos could prove to be more detrimental to America.

It seems that Michael Shaw “I mean, isn't that what directors do?” has been watching too many Tom Clancy movies.

In hindsight, criticizing the actions of a leader on a minute-by-minute basis is quite easy. When a crisis is only minutes old (or tens-of-minutes old: only “13 minutes before Flight 77 . . .”), there’s bound to be plenty of material to pounce upon.

Regrettably, no one followed the (implied, existential, whatever) director's script. They followed existing procedure, given the information they had at the time..

Let’s use basic Holmes-ian deductive logic (doubtless all journalists have read fellow writer Sir Arthur Conan Doyle) and intellectual honesty.

A large aircraft flying into a tall building is a tragedy. But at approximately 8:55AM, September 11, 2001, what did the crash indicate:

1. Several Russian (or Chinese or other) ICBMs / SLBMs have been launched and are on their way towards the US/ Allies?

2. Several Russian armored and mechanized divisions are armed and moving west, and are about to cross a certain line?

3. The North Korean Army has crossed the Korean DMZ, armed and in force?

4. There have been one or more nuclear explosions, above ground, in the Islamabad / New Delhi areas?

5. Perhaps a nuclear explosion somewhere in CONUS or Europe? How about anywhere in the world?

No? Nothing? Bupkus?

9/11 is still a tragedy.

At 9:07AM it looks like an accident, plausibly a criminal act.

Perhaps building management will now order building evacuations, just to be safe. (Perhaps Mr. Shaw will explain how this is a Presidential issue.)

Perhaps we need to have Norad cover the entire CONUS, with F-15s (to do what? what would Mr. Shaw written about this sort of scenario? What will he write now, and will it agree with his previous views over the past several years?)

There is evidence we need to control our ambassadors, particularly to certain Middle Eastern countries. This is a Presidential issue (but by 8:30AM Sept. 11 2001, it was too late). Will Mr. Shaw address this Presidential failing?

What, then is Mr. Shaw's point; that someone ahould have known? This seems to be an issue at the ambassadorial level.

A resubmission of Mr. Shaw's article (for topicality, or sumthin) is in order.

It should be a simple matter for Mr. Shaw and the other mighty journalists of the Huffington Post, to rewrite his article and prove his points, using ONLY information available at and prior to approximately 8:55AM, September 11, 2001.

Too hard? Perhaps a rewrite, using ONLY information available prior to approximately 9:06AM, Sept. 11, 2001.

Still too hard? Ok, how about using ONLY information available prior to approximately 9:35AM, Sept. 11, 2001?

This last rewrite should be easy, with all points proved as it includes information available during the “nineteen minutes after hearing about the second crash; and with the fate of America supposedly hanging in the balance. . .”

With apologies to a certain journalist: “What do you suppose Shaw had in front of him and was working on?” when he wrote this piece?

Well they have a point.I have it on good authority that it was the Criminal Bush who whacked JFK in Dallas.
Hey OJ did not do those murders.It was the Criminal Bush.
He did it all because it somehow promotes global warming.
It all ties together if you believe 9/11 was an inside job.
You know like how Rove got into Scuba gear & blew up the levees in New Orleans.

re: #118 opnion

Rove didn't blow up the levees in New Orleans, for that they used trained gators with explosives strapped onto them. The gators were trained by Steve Irwin...Now Rove may have dressed as a stingray in order to keep Steve from spilling the beans, but it may have been Cheney too.

"¿Quien es mas macho? ¿Ricardo Montalban...o Fernando Lamas?"

- Bill Murray from (the Golden Age of ) SNL

The question here should be:

"¿Quien es mas loco ¿ HuffPo ...o Daily Kos?"

Maybe PuffHo.

See comments about Jenna Bush engagement here

Some examples:
- My ALLAH cause their first child to be born retarded and deformed...
- Shotgun wedding?
- I just hope she's sterile. We don't need any more members of that evil fucking clan.
- Who cares what this slut does during her useless life.

Having to chose between the two is like when one is sick on the toilet from an all night bender and having to decide whether they should lean over the tub to puke while they are having massive explosive diarrhea.

Either way, it is not a pleasant experience.

My apologies for the graphic images.

#119 tronman

Rove didn't blow up the levees in New Orleans, for that they used trained gators with explosives strapped onto them. The gators were trained by Steve Irwin...Now Rove may have dressed as a stingray in order to keep Steve from spilling the beans, but it may have been Cheney too.

I hate to give any credence to any of these pet theories, but there is some historical evidence that explains why some people feel (especially those in my hometown) feel there was sabotage. In the 1927 floods, as I understand it, a cabal of New Orleans bankers paid contractors to dynamite the levees up river to protect the city (and their investments). This was done without any (as far as I know) input from the state government or from the US Army Corps of Engineers. The feeling is that if the powers that be did it once, they could do it again.

No way do I believe that there was any nefarious conspiracy. But, I do not doubt that some of the witnesses heard a loud bang followed by a roar of water. I think what they heard was the collapse of the levee.

The shame is that it's going to happen again, this time at another point in the levee system.

Since both places can be used to induce vomiting in an emergency, I vote "None of the Above" :)

Twiddlee Dum
and
Twiddlee Dummer

Arbalest (#117),

With apologies to a certain journalist: “What do you suppose Shaw had in front of him and was working on?” when he wrote this piece?

Internet porn.

I can't stand to read either..both are vile..very vile sites. I'm glad they are being exposed so people can see how these vile people think.

re: #64 NoSubmission

That's the problem. HuffPoo does that because Arianna has deluded herself into thinking she's legitimate. She was a caricature candidate in the recall election in California. She paid her $2500 and got in. So did Gary Coleman, Mary Carey and two teachers in SDUSD and LAUSD...so?

Kos at least doesn't delude himself in such a way...

re: #122 tripster

Nummy. How did you get inside my uncle's house last weekend?

re: #74 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Here's a funny from a commenter named castlerider (wouldn't that chap the legs a bit?)

One thing for sure we should console ourselves with is.. At least we're talking about it, at least we're bloggin, gettin' the truth and doin' some etchin' in stone so we can spout off a thing or two about what we absolutely know under no uncertain terms, and maybe turn around some braindead fellow human and help 'em wake the F_ up!

Oh, where do I begin?

With massive doses of Clozapine. Someone should write a book: Liberalism-The Undiagnosed Mental Illness

Kos are commies in poor disguise.

Huffpoo are nazis, right out in front, no disguise.

Who do you like better, the SA or the SS? Hamas or Fatah?

===

I'll take "It's all the same" for $200, Alex.

WHY DOES
NOT MATTER,
R

This is like choosing between TweedleDumb and TweedleDumber.

HuffPost commenters are probably more ignorant, mean-spirited and stupid, but the HuffPost may be more valuable to us in that it offers more opportunities for celebrity idiots to make fools of themselves, i.e., that posting a few weeks ago by Alec Baldwin demanding an investigation to determine who leaked Valerie Plame's name to the press, almost two years after everybody in the world was made aware of this, and long after the source acknowledged it. (if you missed that one, check Newsbusters' inventory).

Look all these idiots are "Airheads" ... nothing inside ... they operate like the children they are ... it's like kids ending an argument by yelling "So There!" ... THEN ... There are truly vile evil ones who instigate these "ideas". Like Michael Shaw ... Pied Piper for the Liberal Loons ...
Both sites are equally devoid of any sanity! Anyone who saw Marcos "Screw em" Z on Meet the press could see that he's a loon ... (Doesn't he look like the "Man's" head guy out of the movie Undercover Brother? ... yeah I thought so too!)

...dumberer and dumbererer...hard to choose!

At the risk of cherry-picking...

My father was killed in WWII 8 mos before I was born, and now I learn Pearl Harbor was also orchestrated, as was Vietnam. The military industrial complex is making billions, so there will always be war. "There is always enough for need but never enough for greed."

Well, yes, the Empire of Japan orchestrated Pearl Harbor. Rather successfully. And Vietnam was a joint project by the Soviets, the Chinese, and the North Vietnamese, so I guess you're right...

When Andy Card whispered in Dubya's ear, "The plane has hit the second tower," did anyone notice the strange wording? Not "Oh my God, another plane has hit the other tower!" Or "There's been another attack on the second tower." No, he said it like everything was under control, going along as planned. Which, of course, it was. I mean, what's a few thousand innocent lives when we're talking about ushering in the Golden Age of the GOP... the new Thousand Year Reich? Look for another one before next Nov. Then Dubya and Dead Eye Dick can invoke the "special powers" granted them in the USA Patriot Act and call off the election. It's for our own good, you understand.

Ah, where would we be without the Grand Conspiracy Theory, leading to the inevitable "Bush will never give up power" gambit. How I wish I could find these people and make a hefty bet on that proposition.

Let's not forget the cads and dolts at the Democratic Underground.
The DU, Kos and HuffPo form a triumvirate of cosmic imbecility.
I'd compare them to the three Axis powers of WWII , full of hatred, verbal aggression, a paranoid feeling of victimization, free floating rage and anti-semitism. The DUmmies and Kosites usually couch their anti-semitism in terms of "anti-zionism" but the HuffPo is just undisguised Jew hatred.
Of course, all three are united in their hatred of America in general and Bushler in particular.

I can't provide an objective viewpoint because everytime I go to PuffHo, I have this incredible urge to sit down and watch Green Acres with Lisa Douglas singing:

New York
is where I'd rather stay
I get allergic smelling hay
I just adore a penthouse view
Darling, I love you,
but give me Park Avenue

I think Charles and the yahoos here should take a look at the fascist, hateful, warmongering stuff here before passing judgement on some other site. This is the height of hypocrisy. Charles, you live in a glass house too. Wonder what your pal Zappa would have thought of all your creepy web pals. Get a life!

I support Bush but am not in love with him. There's plenty of legit criticism to direct his way.

But what is the matter with people who seem to believe that how someone acts in the first 30 minutes of a completely unprecedented event is meaningful in ANY way?

About anything short of totally panic would be acceptable behavior in an event like 9/11. No one knew what was going on, even the people in NYC who were witnessing the event.

And what if Bush had acted "perfectly" (whatever that might have been)?

Absolutely nothing would have been different much less improved. To obsess over meaningless behavior SIX years after the fact says far more about these idiots than it does Bush.

#138 Jakester

No one’s buying your line.

For completeness, check out my comment #146 here.

re: #138 Jakester

I'm laughing at you...another toe-sucker from the altar of KKKos or general loon from the PuffHo?

yeah,
I saw your last comment, it was sophistry. Many people have called this a hate site, and I disagree. I have been visicously attacked and threatened by people here in the past because they are so hatefilled and intolerant they have to shut anyone who disagrees with them down. Once again the old Franklin maxim holds true: People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!
I'm not saying there isn't plenty of garbage on those sites, but you can disagree without doing an O'Reilly. I remember when right wingers use to preen themselves by telling everyone they were tolerant and only the liberals were trying to censor and condemn people.

goodbye_natalie
You're right, no one can disagree with a truly intelligent and honest person like you and not be some sort of cretin. I bow to your superior wisdom. I am sorry I upset you so much. It's wrong to disagree with anyone here.

Oh dear God.

Sorry, Lizards, I'm late to this but I have to get in on it.

These morons are completely unable to grasp one thing: If any of them had been the POTUS at the time of the attack, how would THEY have reacted?

"Oh man, I'd have jumped into action and immediately ordered an evacuation of New York, then I'd have begun setting up a committee to investigate this terrible act of..."

Bullshit. If you're the POTUS and you have even a TENTH of a brain, your first reaction would be to REMAIN CALM. After all, the country that voters handed you has just been assaulted by (at the time), God knows who or what, with no telling what yet may come. For all Bush or anyone else could have known, this was a nuclear attack. Or maybe this was a jet accident. Or maybe this was a start of some massive, serious assault by some other nation who decided they couldn't keep their finger off of "the" trigger anymore.

What if Bush had gone into absolute panic only to discover that it was a jet liner that had a severe mechanical malfunction and the pilot lost control? He would've been mocked, derided and insulted for being a "wimp."

Bush took the adult route and remained calm. It's the same damn thing they tell you at the movie theater: in the event of an emergency, walk - do NOT run - to the nearest exit.

Further, the US Secret Service is staffed by some of the most intelligent, aware and skilled people on the planet. These guys are the absolute pinnacle of emergency response, because who they are guarding is considered to be the leader of the free world. Their whole purpose is the safety of the man who runs the United States. If he had been at the White House, the Secret Service would've IMMEDIATELY taken the POTUS to a shelter or bunker for safety because that's what they do.

BUT... they were at a SCHOOL. The school was the best bunker they had - far better than trying to be outside with only the thin metal of an automobile frame to protect you. Air Force One wasn't likely a quickly-available option either - the school was the best choice.

The school was an elementary school. Children are easily influenced by the emotions of the people around them and, if the President or his staff had panicked, it would've made things at the school traumatizing for the children and parents would've been all over the Administration and the school district for scaring their children. Lawsuits, galore! In addition, there were still no immediate answers.

A mature response is a calm response. Even if your mind flies through all of the information and you're panicking inside, you must remain calm because a calm leader is someone that people can turn to and trust to lead. He did the responsible thing and continued his morning appointments where he could because he said he would be there and it would've been pointless to move him without at least a little more information (had the attacks stopped? What was the nature of the attacks - nuclear / chemical / biological? etc, etc, etc).

Moving on - a few "suits" standing by, one with a large black briefcase. My call? Secret Service. Bartlett pointing at television? Rove also looking at it? They're probably both in shock (I know this is hard to fathom for the tr00fers) and unsure of how to react. Who knows what Bartlett is pointing at? Maybe he sees debris falling from the explosion replay and he's saying, "look at that mess..." Why are Rove's arm's crossed? Because it's a defensive posture if the individual is uncomfortable. Why might he be uncomfortable? Maybe it's because there's an ABSOLUTE ATROCITY being committed on American soil!

And why is this photograph so dynamic? Well, let's see... what would the job of the White House photographer be? I think it's to get the best photographs of the President that he can under any circumstances. Of COURSE the picture is framed well, the guy was hired to do this for a living! Good God!

"Truther" IDIOTS! AUUGH!

... okay, I feel better now. :p

Also, apologies for the wall of text.

re: #136 Paul

Root canal or projectile vomiting?Which is worse?

Let's not forget the cads and dolts at the Democratic Underground.
The DU, Kos and HuffPo form a triumvirate of cosmic imbecility.

Don't forget The Nation as well .They are off their rockers as much as any one.

I think Arrianna likes the celebrity and glamour that goes with her site.I don't think she believes everything her writers post.
Kos on the other hand is a lunatic.He truly believes the he is a King maker and pretty much said so last Sunday with Harold Ford Jr. on MTP.He runs his site like Jim Jones down in French Guyana.That boy be whacked.
I get a kick out of the way his people defend their detractors by always saying "you're cherry picking comments" when thread after thread is filled with left-wing venom.

#142 Jakester

For my part, you are free to disagree with me. Most readers choose to simply ignore my posts, as does the occasional addressee.

“I think Charles and the yahoos here should take a look at the fascist, hateful, warmongering stuff here before passing judgement on some other site. This is the height of hypocrisy.”

This is roughly the same as Kos; where is the analysis, or maybe a link to an example? If you’re right, a few links should be easy to find.

re: #143 Jakester

You're right, no one can disagree with a truly intelligent and honest person like you and not be some sort of cretin. I bow to your superior wisdom. I am sorry I upset you so much. It's wrong to disagree with anyone here.

You were doing okay until you apologized for upsetting me. See that assumes that I care about your thoughts or that I would ever be upset with a cretin. My only real hope for you Jake is that you never find your ruby red slippers. And remember, Mom gets home from work by 5:00 so make sure you're off the computer by then.

The Huffo Po guy needs a lesson in photography. The picture looks "perfect" because there were a couple of hundred "not perfect" photos that were not published. I would hazard a guess that within that 30 minutes or so, he probably took several hundred shots, of which almost every one will never be seen because of a blurred arm, hand covering a face, hot spot of lighting, etc. etc.

These nuts are beyond delusional.

re: #24 Sizzlack

Why is it that with loony Dems everything is a conspiracy theory.

Um, because a large number of them are actually mentally ill, ranging from delusional to paranoid schizophrenic to all out psychotic? Seriously. I'm not kidding, not one bit.

both are run by anti-american communists!

Huffpo is worse. There are a bunch of fairly rational thinkers floating around kos, though they are greatly outnumbered. I rarely see anything sane posted on huffpo.

President Bush's 'incompetence' is in the eye of the beholder...

re: #142 Jakester

yeah,
I saw your last comment, it was sophistry. Many people have called this a hate site, and I disagree. I have been visicously attacked and threatened by people here in the past because they are so hatefilled and intolerant they have to shut anyone who disagrees with them down. Once again the old Franklin maxim holds true: People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!
I'm not saying there isn't plenty of garbage on those sites, but you can disagree without doing an O'Reilly. I remember when right wingers use to preen themselves by telling everyone they were tolerant and only the liberals were trying to censor and condemn people.

I admit, it's get rough in here at times, but
1 posts are deleted.
2 posters get banned.
3 What I see is an exchange of ideas and not just total name-calling(mostly). Sure some people get carried away in the heat of battle, but I don't see the dripping venom here that I see on the two sites being discussed.
4 I see a LOT of people backing off when sources and links are posted.
There's a response to reason and facts. Spirited debate and exchange of facts isn't the same as Total Flame Wars.
4 And here, it's not automatically assumed that the USA is wrong.

Tough decision. The Hufftard Post has gotten slightly less insane as of late, ever since they 1. changed the way the comments are threaded, and 2. since they intentionally close commenting for certain subjects.

With the Kos Kids, you expect their anti-American and completely disgusting comments. Huff Post is supposed to be a collection of known people, rather then mostly anonymous folks.

Gotta give the worst site status to the Hufftard Post, though.

Which is Worse: Kos or Huffpo?

That's like asking which of two 3 foot tall piles of elephent dung smell the worst.

"YEAH Castlerider, right on! Well said! I agree wholeheartedly! Those who don't believe that 9/11 was a hoax to scare us into taking anti-psychotic meds through fear manipulation so they could sell our brains, are absolutely part of the conspiracy."

Corrected for moonbat accuracy.

They both do work of the devil...now we can argue about which rung they belong among the damned..but that would just be semantics.

/cackle

re: #55 Bob in Breckenridge

Here's a short bio of Arianna Huffington that might explain some things.

Both of these places are cesspools

as far as most vile goes, my vote goes to Huff N Puff...just ahead of the Krazy Kos Kiddies at Kos & the Dummies at Democratic Underground.

As far as most vile person it has to be Markos for his infamous slur.

Unfortunately, this disproves the loony left's theory: Bush did not fly the planes into the WTC, nor was he directing his evil minions doing the dirty deed...

I guess he shoulda run to the nearest phone booth and put on his superman outfit and stopped the last plane in midair.

Or maybe grab a phone and scream at NORAD. That would have helped. And the FAA. And tell them what was going on even though by that time nobody knew. But since Bush planned it, he could have right?

No, I guess the best thing he could have done is run around panicking, screaming like a girl and without any information , order a nuke strike on somebody.

Guys at that level function at the "big hand, small map" level. The wheels turn slowly at this level, and there is a reason for it.

#149

Agreed. I know professional photograhers (not working for AP) and they are positively anal about this stuff. The picture is perfect because they chose the one out of 300 that was perfect. Never mind if it was actually important or interesting. What matters is that the composition met certain criterion.

Huffpo. Hands down.

Occasionally you see a glimmering of sanity on Kos or DU (someone posts something totally outrageous and gets troll-rated, tombstoned, or flamed -- and DU does have a lounge in which people can take a break from the nutty conspiracy theories and post about their kitties or their new computer or whatever). HuffPo is just demented, raving anti-Semitism and BDS 24/7. 90% of the posts there are from LLL sociopaths or trolls goading them into an even greater frenzy. The only control the moderators excercise is to delete the whole comments section for a post (which they have to do pretty frequently). Sometimes DU or Kos is good for laughs, but visiting HuffPo is more like trawling through the Stormfront or White Aryan Resistance sites. You don't need a shower afterwards, you need a six-hour bath in tomato juice just to reduce the stench to bearable levels.

#144

re: #144 SonOfLiberty

Bravo SonOfLiberty! Well said!

Do you think it would do any good to post your response on the HuffPo site? One would hope but they are seriously delusional.

That guy Shaw is delusional. What more could you say after reading his "analysis"? And it's put up at Huff-Po as if he is in the real world. It should be put in a time capsule for people in the future to marvel at.

Both Kos and HuffPost are horrible, but serve a function: they act as sounding boards and convergence points for the most lunatic leftist nutjobs in America, and beyond.

But there is one fundamental difference that makes HuffPost by far the worst: unlike Kos, HuffPost it is supported by the biggest advertisers in America.

Log on any day, and one sees the creme de la creme of big-ticket advertisers. And as one who used to post there extensively, based on my observations, I would speculate that about 99.5% of the ad buyers for these firms have absolutely no idea of the America-bashing, Jew-hating, jihadist-appeasing, tyrant-worshipping hysteria that goes on at HuffPost.

Even worse is the way in which HuffPost editors deliberately manipulate headlines and story excerpts in order to propagate distorted perceptions, and thus stoke the unhinged leftist insanity that HuffPost is known for.

For a good while, I was the most hated commenter at HuffPost, because I pointed this out like clockwork. Then I set up my own blog, JonQuixoteWorld, in part to document my observations, and provide commentary. Some examples:
More Musings From The Hate-America Left at HuffPost
HuffPost: Using An Outright Lie To Foment Hate
HuffPosters Strike Again: BushCo More Evil Than Al Quada Leader
The American Left: All Hate, All Jihad-Appeasement, All The Time

And that induced an entirely new level of not just insanity and hatred from the HuffPosters, but direct and indirect threats, etc.

But it was when I outed HuffPosters for their insanity re the infamous "Cheney Thread" back in February (and helped Rush to do the same) that their "anti-JonQuixote" lunacy shot off the charts, as did the threats:
HuffPost Insanity Part 3,243: Regret Over Failed Attempt on Cheney By Taliban

It reached its apex when I then demolished Arianna Huffington's response to this fiasco, in which she dismissed the legion of lunatics as a "miniscule minority" of "clearly unhinged, fringe" commenters:
The HuffPost Spin-Machine, Part 1
(Summary: This was her attempt to explain why a 19-page thread containing about 500 comments was magically turned into a half-page thread, containing 12 innocuous ones - all because of a supposed handful of insane leftist comments)

This, in turn, helped lead HuffPost to enact what I later termed its "Minsicule Minority Defense Initiative," in which it would put up an inflammatory story headline, but would not allow anyone to comment on it:
The HuffPost's "Miniscule Minority Defense Initiative" Goes Live!

This is what I mean. From what I hear, it has all gone on to this day.

But again, unlike Kos, HuffPost is supported by the biggest of the big-ticket advertisers in America, the vast majority of whom I believe have no idea of what it is that they are enabling.

That's why I think HuffPost is far worse than Kos or any of the other leftist lunatic nutjob gathering spots.

I'm JonQuixote, and I approve this message.

:)

I read the article and some of the comments, but my threshold for cognitive dissonance and 'seeing what we want to see' is pretty low, so I'm back here in sanity land.

When I read enough of this leftist paranoid BS I start to feel like I'm in the middle of an Orwellian anti-utopia, but for real. It's kind of unnerving.

One name Randall Robinson. If it was not for Randall I would not have learned that black victims and only black victims of Hurricane Katrina had began cannibalizing each other a mere 72 hours after the hurricane hit. He ran with the story because he wanted it to be true, not once did he stop and ponder just how implausible a story about people eating corpses after three days without food would be. I would bet any amount of money he was actually disappointed when he found out the story was a hoax.

I'm going with Huffington crazy over Kos crazy.

Interesting that that Huffington witch is just that a new age witch.
You always seem to find the heathen, pagan, witches and the rest of those in the commie camp, I do wonder why...

#170 Against Socialism

Yes, I've noticed that too---the connection between new age/pagan/pseudo-Eastern beliefs, often involving dabbling in drugs and promiscuous sex, and the Communist camp. The Nazis were very much into pagan New Age wooo-woo too, though that's been forgotten, of late. (Probably makes many libs involved in academia uncomfortable, so they don't teach that in history classes.) This occultism is like a thread of evil, running through all the racist-progressive movements of the modern era (eugenics was considered quite progressive in the late 19th, early 20th Century).

Don't know which website is more evil---they're both pretty bad---but Arianna, with her money, social position, friends in high places and wealthy backers is more dangerous than KOS. It looked for a while there as if they were grooming her for politics, and they might try that again, especially if the Hildabeest doesn't turn out to be the great feminist hope.

Talking Camel
You are talking bullshit. That you have to label them all pagans then make a another dishonest sweeping Godwin generalization about them being Communist and Nazis. Throw in the sex and drugs and wallah, your opponents are so evil they can't be tolerated.
PS: Ignorant LGF Lizard Robot:
While there might be a relaion between some forms of paganism and Nazism, the Communists didn't believe in any religion at all, pagan/Christian/Jewish you name it. You have the same stupid, hateful, cheap anti-intellectual mins I associate with todays right.

goodbye_natalie
You must care about me enough to respond to my sarcasm,
Goodbye!

#172 Jakester

And you must care enough about moi to respond to my post in your usual unintelligent, I'll-just-scream-and-browbeat-any-opposition-'till -it-gives-in manner. Hit a nerve about the paganism thing, did I? Go read some real history. You may also want to read a book called "The Nazis and the Occult," as well as any honest, unbiased history of, say, Timothy Leary, and the 60's.

You should also stop projecting your own hate and hostility onto others.

Also, it's chickenshit to spout your arguments on a dying thread, when Charles has posted new threads, and people have moved on. But you don't really want a debate. You want to scream, "YOU ARE ALL BAD, STUPID, RACIST, INTOLERANT, AND I AM GOOD, DO YOU HEAR ME, GOOD!"
(By the way---what does Godwin have to do with anything?) That might work in the Junior High you attend, or with your mom; doesn't wash here.

Same old Jakester. You haven't changed a bit. Too bad.

"Which is Worse: Kos or Huffpo?"

That's HuffPOO. Get it right.