great report

If PJM could dig all this up, why couldn't TNR? And why, oh why, didn't they just admit their mistake and take action. That would have been much wiser than the response they chose.

Sorry to go OT again but I'm on my way out the door (really Charles! - Have to go to a wedding!).

American 'ally' Jordan refuses to turn over Saddam Hussein's daughter who is wanted for financing Sunni terror in Iraq.

Throbert rules!

OT:
Major of Bruxelles interdicts 9/11 rally; warns 9/11 Demonstrators Are Criminals

A quote from Freddy Thielemans, the Mayor of Brussels, in an op-ed piece in the Brussels newspaper De Standaard, 20 August 2007:

I decided to forbid the September 11 demonstration “against the islamicisation of Europe.” [...] Since 2001 I have allowed over 3,500 demonstrations. This is only the sixth one which I forbid. [...] The right to demonstrate exists only inasmuch as it does not cause a disturbance of the public peace and order. [...] First and foremost the organizers have chosen the symbolic date of 9/11. The intention is obviously to confound the terrorist activities of Muslim extremists on the one hand and Islam as a religion and all Muslims on the other hand. [...] Such incitement to discrimination and hatred, which we usually call racism and xenophobia, is forbidden by a considerable number of international treaties and is punished by our penal laws and by the European legislation. The European Court of Human Rights has repeatedly pronounced judgements condemning this type of acts. [...]

the rest here: [Link: www.brusselsjournal.com...]

NR got "suckered" because they wanted to bash the troops more than they cared about checking the accuracy of their story. Shame Shame Shame.

Just as the world was beginning to wonder if The New Republic had been tricked by a fabricator for the third time in the past decade, the magazine’s staff went to a party.

Tricked or willful blindness? I wonder what would happen if every TNR story were scrutinized.

If it hasn't happened already, it's high time a conservative publication put [Th]Robert McGee on its staff. He writes very well and is funny as hell.

The left's smearing of McGee is absolutely shameful, and yet these are the supposed protectors of sexual orientation. They have no shame, however, nor do they have logic and facts working for them either. TNR repeatedly attacked those questioning the authenticity of the stories, going well above the fact checking that supposedly took place before the stories were published, let alone the fact checking that supposedly took place once questions were raised by Weekly Standard's Michael Goldfarb.

More here.

I'd also point out that some made similar accusations towards Matt Sanchez who was reporting from FOB Falcon and who questioned Beauchamp's activities there - and his sexual orientation/prior history was used to smear his reporting of the facts.

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that hell is funny. Which it probably isn't, or, well, it wouldn't be very hellish, now would it?

re: #8 Occasional Reader

Agreed.

re: #2 mondoreb

If PJM could dig all this up, why couldn't TNR? And why, oh why, didn't they just admit their mistake and take action. That would have been much wiser than the response they chose.

I think the answer to this is that they successfully whitewash errors of omission and commission so many times, that "deny and coverup" is the knee jerk response.

Why not if it usually works?

they were fooled because they so desperately want to believe. not much different from the sad pervs on to catch a predator. these guys actualy convince themselves they're talking to a eleven year old despite the complete lack of evidence.

[Link: www.attackcartoons.com...]

If you're gay and don't march in lockstep with the left, they have no use for you whatsoever.

In fact, they'll gleefully go out of their way to destroy you.

Such compassionate people.

Here's the latest political street 'art' from the moonbat front.

Anti-War or Anti-Troops?

It's not hard to tell.

Long Live Throbert McGee! Long Live Rugby the Rat!

Long may you prosper!

re: #9 lawhawk

The left's smearing of McGee is absolutely shameful,

Homosexuality is perfectly acceptable to the Left, unless one of it's participants disagrees with them. ONLY THEN is it a sin. But it's the mortal sin of party line disagreement, the "homosexuality" tag is thrown in for shits and giggles.

Meanwhile, a floor below Foer and Wieseltier, McGee was about to make a controversial and momentous decision, which would soon cost him his job.

He had just learned that Elsbeth Reeve (a reporter-researcher at the magazine) had a husband who was somehow involved.

He decided to post anonymously to three different blogs—discardedlies.com, Little Green Footballs, and Ace of Spaces (www.ace.mu.nu) –that the accused fabricator was married to a New Republic staffer.

So where are all the lefties defending the courageous gay whistle blower who spoke truth to corporate power?

re: #14 JammieWearingFool

They reserve a particular hatred and level of viciousness for anyone who is not a white, Christian/Jew, and male, and is a (gasp) conservative...

re: #12 looking closely

Why not if it usually works?

There was a time when I read the TNR. It was MUCH more centralist than it became. And it was much more interesting.

But that was years ago.

re: #18 David Simon

They're busy smearing the same because he doesn't hold to the leftist line. If you don't march in lockstep on all issues, you will be cast aside and punished for your troubles.

Does anyone know if Throbert has found a new job?

“No one ever made a big deal out of it,”

The left thinks they have a monopoly on Tolerance, when what they in fact have is a completely blindness to their hypocrisy. They only support "Diversity" and "Tolerance" when it is expedient for them- including brandishing it as a weapon to smear their opponents with. [But if those opponents are gay, female, or non-white you can chuck that tolerance of diversity right out the window if your a leftist.]

re: #18 David Simon

So where are all the lefties defending the courageous gay whistle blower who spoke truth to corporate power?

Out buying "HAMASpower" T-shirts, following John Edwards hairstyling tips and condemning the outrageous racist bias of those who disagree with them.

Throbert has been posting here for years and I consider him one of the great Lizards...
After the islam-marxism alliance, this is a new low for the totalitarian left.

German woman who was Beauchamp’s fiancée until just before he married

Beaupeep is a opportunistic cad.

I don't ever remember anyone on LGF attacking Throbert because he was gay. And it wasn't something he was the least bit coy about.

And what possible relevance could it have in regards to this story other than the truly misguided Lefty notion that all conservatives hate gays?

re: #2 mondoreb

If PJM could dig all this up, why couldn't TNR? And why, oh why, didn't they just admit their mistake and take action. That would have been much wiser than the response they chose.

Ask Mary Mapes and Dan Rather.

Hey andthenblammo!

How ya been?

German woman who was Beauchamp’s fianc%uFFFDuntil just before he married

Isn't every one a fiance until just before they marry?

re: #8 Occasional Reader

If it hasn't happened already, it's high time a conservative publication put [Th]Robert McGee on its staff. He writes very well and is funny as hell.

Exhibit A:

“It was funny, making an attack that was pointless. Actually, doubly pointless — not only is my homosexuality a complete non-secret, but in any case, the factual claim that I’d made about Elle’s [Elspeth Reeve’s] link to STB [Scott Thomas Beauchamp] had already been publicly confirmed by The New Republic. Also, I think it’s worth pointing out that [the author] was clearly attempting to ‘out’ me not as merely gay, but as a ‘gay conservative.’ In other words, someone who ought to have no credibility on either the left (because of my self-loathing politics) or on the right (because of my unbiblical fondness for cock).”

re: #29 Geepers

Hey andthenblammo!

How ya been?

I was asking myself if he was THE andthenblammo!

Long time, no post !

Hello !

Confused here...did he come out before or after the girlfriend? Must admit I wasn't even aware of his sexual orientation as an issue in the story until just now. That being said, maybe whole gay thing is now being elevated as a key part of the story by bo-chump himself, TNR or, others on left as a distraction from the real issues here. Short of burying the lies and fabrications and the consequenses, there can be no credibility left for TNR and by extension, lots of other liberal publications and there avid fans.

No suprise, Remeber Kerry & Edwards & His wife felt compelled to point out Mary Cheneys sexual orientation?
TNR & other liberal oranisations believed Pvt Beauchamps stories because they wanted to. It fit their paradigm.
You see the troops are stupid & mercenaries in their eyes.
They are so wrong. These young men & women are the best of us.
They get a constant barrage of negativity & insults but still keep up their morale.

re: #33 peck

maybe whole gay thing is now being elevated as a key part of the story by bo-chump himself, TNR or, others on left as a distraction from the real issues here

DINGDINGDING!

re: #6 insanity police

...something that has happened all too frequently on the liberal left in the past six years.

For a list of their failure to check facts, see LGF's left column: Fauxtography, CBS memos, etc.

Jayson Blair thinks this TNR story is jacked up.

re: #35 MandyManners

Mandy,
Hmmm. Thanks. Validation is a good thing every now and again.
peck

The "tolerance" of the Left is always conditional and it applies to lesbians, African-Americans, Hispanics and Muslims as well as gay men. There's only one acceptable way for a minority to behave; stray off the progressive plantation and you'll be subject to the most noxious attacks imaginable.

#18 Me - What's another term for whistle blower? (Is it just me, or does "gay whistle blower" sound a tad, um, redundant?)

I laughed at the fact that SB's wife is a FACT-CHECKER at TNR. God, but I love irony!

re: #27 Geepers

I don't ever remember anyone on LGF attacking Throbert because he was gay. And it wasn't something he was the least bit coy about.

To say the least. Some of us here wouldn't know fromage from frottage if Throbert hadn't informed us...

And what possible relevance could it have in regards to this story other than the truly misguided Lefty notion that all conservatives hate gays?

If they think that, they've come to the wrong "hate site."

re: #2 mondoreb

If PJM could dig all this up, why couldn't TNR? And why, oh why, didn't they just admit their mistake and take action. That would have been much wiser than the response they chose.

TNR had no incentive to, since it shoots credibility. This is the third scandal to hit TNR in five years.

re: #33 peck

Actually, this sort of attack occurs all the time at "progressive" entities like DailyKos. And it seems counter-intuitive, if you assume that progressives as a rule genuinely believe all the fine, high -sounding ideals they claim to be the guardians of.

Throbert clearly does believe in those ideals, and put his good name and career on the line to prove it. His detractors (his former employers), however, have been revealed as the hypocrites that I have always suspected they truly were.

cheers

eon

re: #42 Ward Cleaver

re: #2 mondoreb

If PJM could dig all this up, why couldn't TNR? And why, oh why, didn't they just admit their mistake and take action. That would have been much wiser than the response they chose.

TNR had no incentive to, since it shoots credibility. This is the third scandal to hit TNR in five years.

SHoots TNR's credibility, that is. PIMF

At long last, Max Blumenthal, have you no sense of decency?

(Ask your dad.)

re: #4 andthenblammo!

Throbert rules!

Yeah he does. Good work, Throbert.

re: #42 Ward Cleaver

TNR had no incentive to, since it shoots credibility. This is the third scandal to hit TNR in five years.

TNR has had a lot of practice in dealing with bogus articles in their publication. BUT, their incentive to deal with it quickly and truthfully would have enhanced their credibility. The fact they stonewalled was the REAL credibility hit in my book.

Anyone can get suckered.
But it takes a pro to get suckered and then attack the messenger, instead of the conman.

re: #38 Paul

The "tolerance" of the Left is always conditional and it applies to lesbians, African-Americans, Hispanics and Muslims as well as gay men. There's only one acceptable way for a minority to behave; stray off the progressive plantation and you'll be subject to the most noxious attacks imaginable.

Otherwise, you are a "sell-out."

Anyone else wondering how the really stupid people at TNR could figure out that McGee was the (anonymous) whistle-blower in a matter of days, while the equally stupid people at the NY Times say that it's impossible for them to figure out who's been posting and altering Wickipedia entries from a computer within their offices?

Why would the left treat a gay person any differently then they do an African American who leaves the Democrat plantation? Any black conservative is assailed with racial epithets ranging from name calling to identity theft. Just ask Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice.

And since it's on topic...

TNR: How Could This Happen Again?

re: #50 Just_A_Grunt

Why would the left treat a gay person any differently then they do an African American who leaves the Democrat plantation? Any black conservative is assailed with racial epithets ranging from name calling to identity theft. Just ask Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice.

The treatment of Thomas and Rice is an example of how Democrats react when blacks get uppity.

TNR coming to a grocery store checkout near you.

re: #43 eon

re: #33 peck

Actually, this sort of attack occurs all the time at "progressive" entities like DailyKos. And it seems counter-intuitive, if you assume that progressives as a rule genuinely believe all the fine, high -sounding ideals they claim to be the guardians of.

Throbert clearly does believe in those ideals, and put his good name and career on the line to prove it. His detractors (his former employers), however, have been revealed as the hypocrites that I have always suspected they truly were.

cheers

eon

I intuitively stopped making those assumptions long ago.
Was surprised this week-end to find Halloween costumes in stores already. Looks like 'progressive hypocrites' are going to be big sellers this year. Pretty scary stuff - shouldn't allow those in children's toy stores.

re: #49 heretic

The size of the organization does play a role as does access to computers and the information involved.

Their fact-checker actually married Scott Beauchamp. Now that's fact checking!

“It was funny, making an attack that was pointless. Actually, doubly pointless — not only is my homosexuality a complete non-secret, but in any case, the factual claim that I’d made about Ellie’s [Elspeth Reeve’s] link to STB [Scott Thomas Beauchamp] had already been publicly confirmed by The New Republic. Also, I think it’s worth pointing out that [the author] was clearly attempting to ‘out’ me not as merely gay, but as a ‘gay conservative.’ In other words, someone who ought to have no credibility on either the left (because of my self-loathing politics) or on the right (because of my unbiblical fondness for cock).”

Because Hypocritical Equality is the best kind!

re: #50 Just_A_Grunt

Minorities are respected by the democrats until they leave the party or break from the radical liberal ideology. Just look at Joe Liberman. He was a democratic vice presidential candidate not long ago, but when he refused to flip-flop on Iraq he was brutalized by the dems, and the "evil Jooos" were fair game. Such anti-Semitism and anti-Jew racism I had never seen before as acceptable in politics, and unfortunately the left has not backed off that newly acceptable Jew hatred.

Dar ul Harb (#51),

Some fun stuff you got there. Keep up the good work.

I was listening to Air America’s Stephanie Miller the other day while she and here sidekicks were doing an ad-lib “Broke Back” skit featuring Bush and Rove. I found it ironic that these people are the ones who scream the loudest, calling conservatives insensitive to gay issues (same sex marriage and what not), while they played up every gay stereotype trying to insult Bush and Rove by questioning their sexual orientation.

BIG GAY IS RIPPING US OFF!

A good example of the hypocrites of the left...

My ex-girlfriend was a far-left progressive. She thought my concern about radical Islam was racist. Yet here are some of her views...

1) Christians are the most dangerous people in the world.

2) Hispanic men are ALL rapist and she on;t work with them, since she was sexually harrassed once by a Mexican man.

3) G. Bush is worst than Hitler.

4) Hugo is the best thing to ever happen to South America.

Her reasons for her thinking. Because she knows what she says is the truth, hence, she is not prejudice.

Got that!

Walter in Golden, Co.

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

A good example of the hypocrites of the left...

My ex-girlfriend was a far-left progressive. She thought my concern about radical Islam was racist. Yet here are some of her views...

1) Christians are the most dangerous people in the world.

2) Hispanic men are ALL rapist and she on;t work with them, since she was sexually harrassed once by a Mexican man.

3) G. Bush is worst than Hitler.

4) Hugo is the best thing to ever happen to South America.

Her reasons for her thinking. Because she knows what she says is the truth, hence, she is not prejudice.

Got that!

Walter in Golden, Co.

PIMF on;t = won't

re: #58 insanity police

We have leftists calling Condi Bush's "Pouty Brown Sugar", and making snide inferences to the Cheney's gay daughter. They embrace Tolerance and Diversity only when it's convenient for them, otherwise- forget about it.

Kirk:
Nomad you are not perfect you have made an error.

Nomad:
ERROR?

Kirk:
You have have not corrected that error. You have made two errors.

Nomad:

Error? Error?

This could get ugly.

re: #59 Geepers

Dar ul Harb (#51),

Some fun stuff you got there. Keep up the good work.

Thanks!

Good luck Robert, where ever you are...

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

I'm not sure, but I don't believe the word 'hypocrite' is in the progressive lexicon. If so, it must have a completely opposite definition/usage than the one in dictionaries used by the rest of us.

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

My ex-girlfriend was a far-left progressive

Thank goodness it ended at some point.
"Tolerance" is just a club the Left uses to beat opposing viewpoints. It has nothing to do with real tolerance. It's one reason they lose no sleep over their views on "free speech" and their strict enforcements on PC.

It's all about shouting down opposing viewpoints. If PC won't do it, then interupting conservative speakers on campus might.

I'm really appalled by the leftie bloggers' homophobic attack on Throbert. I have a really low opinion of these bloggers. In my humble opinion, this kind of personal attack shows ultimate mean-spiritedness. The left wing blogosphere does this a lot, and I am at a loss to understand it.

If I could say one thing to the left-wing blogosphere, but especially PuffHo - please stop projecting your deep-seated prejudices onto me.

Throbert - it's TNR's loss - you'll get a better gig.

re: #69 mondoreb

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

My ex-girlfriend was a far-left progressive

Thank goodness it ended at some point.
"Tolerance" is just a club the Left uses to beat opposing viewpoints. It has nothing to do with real tolerance. It's one reason they lose no sleep over their views on "free speech" and their strict enforcements on PC.

It's all about shouting down opposing viewpoints. If PC won't do it, then interupting conservative speakers on campus might.

You make a good point. After letting her views slide off my back (hell, the sex was the best I ever had, and damm, I'm 54) for 8 months, I finally called her on those points and all she could do was start screaming at me about how I don't understand and then started throwing stuff at me. Before that time we had NEVER even raised out voices to each other.

I walked out... right away.

Walter in Golden, Co.

The right is by and large "live and let live" as long as you don't thrust your way of doing things in their face and require that they approve it, promote it for society at large or contribute to it.

The left on the other hand is very intolerant of anyone who does not subscribe to its ideology. They love all gays, blacks, feminists, atheists etc. unless one of them strays off the leftist plantation. Then all hell breaks loose.

This is a sign of the confidence that each side has in their world view. The right is comfortable with all points of view being expressed because in the battle of ideas they believe theirs have stood the test of time and can be demonstrated ON THE FACTS to be superior and more humane.

The left cannot tolerate the slightest contradiction or dissension because they are aware on some level that their entire edifice is built on illusion and lies. They are rabid about spreading propaganda and shutting up anyone who points out that the leftist emperor has no clothes. No controlling tool is off limits. They try to ruin reputations, careers, and in the case of leftist governments such as Stalin's Mao's and Castro's, set up police states, imprisoning, committing to mental institutions and killing those guilty of "thought crimes".

VDH on TNR-gate;

Appallingly Anonymous

...What can we learn from all this — while savoring the irony of authors and journalists fudging on their own ethical standards as they race to uncover the supposed ethical lapses of their government officials?

If an "I accuse" author like Scott Thomas Beauchamp or Michael Scheuer avoids using his own name, or reporters like Dan Rather or Michael Isikoff won't name a source for a potentially history-changing story, there is often a good suspicion why: They apparently don't look forward to questions about why — and how exactly — they wrote what they wrote.

Instead, anonymity gives them free rein as judge and jury, exempt from cross-examination. This "trust me" practice goes against the very grain of the American tradition of allowing the aggrieved the right to face his accusers.

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

but ... but ...

Doesnt that mean Hugo is a rapist because he is Hispanic?

Once again, we see that leftist "street cred" (being gay) is only as good as your adherence to the cause (being left). As soon as you even smell like a conservative, and/or question the local mythology, you become a heretic, and are promptly Excommunicated... How lovely.

Scotty Bitch-chomp sounds like a real piece of work.

re: #71 Walter L. Newton

hell, the sex was the best I ever had, and damm, I'm 54) for 8 months,.

I feel better knowing how many of us had "crazy psycho girlfriends" - good sex but nothing in common.

re: #12 looking closely

re: #2 mondoreb

If PJM could dig all this up, why couldn't TNR? And why, oh why, didn't they just admit their mistake and take action. That would have been much wiser than the response they chose.

I think the answer to this is that they successfully whitewash errors of omission and commission so many times, that "deny and coverup" is the knee jerk response.

Why not if it usually works?

They are still used to doing it in the Clintonian way. This used to work well...now things are too easy to check and the truth is out there in the alternate media.

re: #75 Pawn of the Oppressor

Once again, we see that leftist "street cred" (being gay) is only as good as your adherence to the cause (being left). As soon as you even smell like a conservative, and/or question the local mythology, you become a heretic, and are promptly Excommunicated... How lovely.

Scotty Bitch-chomp sounds like a real piece of work.

But, but, but...I thought that the "progressives" were tolerant and we "neocons" were the bigots.

/ :)

re: #71 Walter L. Newton

After letting her views slide off my back (hell, the sex was the best I ever had,

To me, no sex is that good.
Part of the enjoyment is being able to discuss any topic.
Oh well, you did the wise thing.

A LIZARD was the whistleblower? Awesome!
Kudos to Throbert.

re: #78 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

They are still used to doing it in the Clintonian way. This used to work well...now things are too easy to check and the truth is out there in the alternate media.

Double Bingo with a Bullet, PP!

I personally believe that homosexuality is a sin, so I don't do that. When I get to the point that there is no sin in my life, I'll get around to telling people like Mr. McGee how to live theirs. Until then, I'll leave that to the self-righteous left!

Robert,

You did the right thing. Remember, when a door closes, another opens.

The people that smeared you unjustly, will answer for that at some point in time.

Hmmm. Seems comments are CLOSED on this piece at FluffPo.

Wasn't McGee using the name Rugrat here? Ah, that explains it.

re: #3 Carl in Jerusalem

Sorry to go OT again but I'm on my way out the door (really Charles! - Have to go to a wedding!).

American 'ally' Jordan refuses to turn over Saddam Hussein's daughter who is wanted for financing Sunni terror in Iraq.

Well, since you're bringing this up, Carl, you should mention that CHALABI with CIA and American State Department "halp" obsconded with the entire cash reserves in Jordan's banking system. Which was a "thank you" to Jordan for backing Saddam back in 1991.

Play with the devil, and things don't improve.

The midget king's son, now in charge OF NOTHING BUT SAND and palestinians isn't really relevant. And, the sunni conduit of cash to terrorists really comes from SAUDI ARABIA! Hello? Are you listening?

The Saudi's thought 9/11 would tip Irak into their possession.

So there's lots of sand in the eyes, today, of desert rats; whose interests are not mine. So Saddam's daughter can do what, now? She's too old to procreate.

And, the violence against Iraqis, from the Saud's, has been so enormous, there's no change that in IRAK there's gonna be a shift over to the Sunni's. More than you know, has gone up in smoke and flames.

Bush? He didn't come through for Ken Lay, either.

I noted this particular passage in the Pajamas Media article:

“. . . New Republic Editor Franklin Foer’s Northwest Washington home . . .”

There are many average Americans in the Pacific Northwest, as reasonable, socially responsible and patriotic as anyone else, anywhere in America, but . . .

I’ve experienced the Pacific Northwest Liberal firsthand, and many times. There’s a particular strain of hypocrisy and sanctimonious self-righteousness in them that makes the “progressives” in the Berkeley Hills seem positively Centrist-Moderate Democrat.

Think “Frasier”, but with truly mediocre writers and scripts.

TNR will eventually publish something regarding, mentioning, narrating (bets on the existence of the moral equivalent of an 18 1/2 minute gap?), defocussing L’Affaire de B., but the probability of an honest and complete clarification and explanation (i.e., a complete and total confession, with dates, names, actions) any time in the next 60 days, is low.

The probability that any of the responsible Editors will be fired is around zero. They simply cannot be wrong. But watch for some to mysteriously appear elsewhere.

Well, soon enough, TNR comes out with its "post vacation" issue.

If you were Foer, would you be looking for even more stories of our troops having a rough time of it, in Irak? You think the well is dry, there? I don't.

And, I think of their two options; with "ignoring this fiasco" being the other; it remains to be seen what's next.

Heck, I've seen Patraeus being called "betray-us" already being done on the left.

So, if I had to guess? There's more shit to be flung that's gonna come out of the TNR "cages." You think their next cover will show the verticle bars?

Hey, it doesn't take all that much imagination to be a journalist these days. Lose that job and all you can do, "afta," is flip hamburgers. Or try "sales." Not the most lucrative and elite of professions.

I'm also going to guess, since this subject doesn't die on its own. And, TNR's "vacation" hasn't stopped the story's making "the rounds on the Internet," it's possible McGee (who got fired) ... and who got a "cease and desist" letter from TNR's lawyers ... might ... and, could ... in fact ... write a whole book about this hoax. Then? Well Steven Glass' saga is out there, playing on the big screens.

That's a great article by the PJ media. It exposes the left media on numerous fronts.

One thing the left does is ignore the truth if it differs from their ideology and/or world view. Reminds me of Memogate in that regard.

Second, the left will try to destroy anyone that points out the truth that differs from their ideology and world/view. Reminds me of what the left calls "McCarthyism".

Three, it is OK for libs to be bigots if a member of a minority groups disagrees with the left groupthink. Gays, African Americans and Jews please take note.

All I can say is thank God for the new media. Twenty years ago, Scott Beauchump would have gotten away with his lies.

Typical lefty ad-hominem attack. So because he's gay what he says is wrong?

Hey, Geepers and Poitiers-Lepanto!

Hope to catch up with youse on an active thread; I've had my shoulder to the Great Wheel Of Progress way too much this year for much posting. Hope to make up for it this fall. Tough to make fun of news stories when the reporters build the laughs right in at the factory, but it's worth a shot!

#91

Ditto. Half of the new media is moonbat. However, about 80% of the old media is left-wing, so I guess things are getting better.

Nixon said the Vietnam war was misreported, so it is misremembered. How much crap have we been fed through the years? The media started going off the tracks in the mid sixties.

I started checking out blogs and alternate ways to get my news a bit after 9/11, trying to piece together a bit more of the facts and history than the media platitudes.

The presidential campaign was especially revealing in exposing media bias.

They are losing lots of credibility, but they have to be exposed widely.

re: #17 mondoreb

re: #9 lawhawk

The left's smearing of McGee is absolutely shameful,

Homosexuality is perfectly acceptable to the Left, unless one of it's participants disagrees with them. ONLY THEN is it a sin. But it's the mortal sin of party line disagreement, the "homosexuality" tag is thrown in for shits and giggles.

Think of that republican whose lifestyle was the cause of his downfall. Got to be careful if you're a liberal to toe the party line, One misstep and you're off to their version of Siberia. Disgusting behavior on the part of liberals.

im not tryin to defend this creatin here.

Squareback does not refer to the shape of the round. All rounds are round.

Squareback is the shape that the firing pin leaves in the spent round.

Some firing pins are round some are square there are even some that are star shaped.

This sort of thing is why I cannot trust the left. They are utterly fraudulent and none of the things they claim to be--least of all compassionate.

I do not care who is gay. Terrorist want to kill all Americans including gays.