Scores of Taliban and al Qaeda operatives are reported to have been captured after upwards of 50 terrorists were killed in the initial fighting. A senior al Qaeda leader was also reported to have been wounded in the attack.

Thats a mistake! Kill, don't capture!

Al Haq is said to have fled across the border into Pakistan’s Kurram agency

Too bad Obama isn't President we could go kill him

The truth will set you free.

Do we have to call a "timeout" while they stop and do their daily prayers? The Taliban will probably sue the US in world court for religious persecution.

this is all well and fine, and Afghanistan is where the US should be fighting

but get us out of Iraq, where Bushitler-Cheneyburton are trying to steal the Arab's oil

/Michael Moore signing off

Also, evidence recently emerged the US military has approval to conduct raids inside Pakistani territory. Pakistani troops are reported to have reinforced the border in the Kurram agency.

What evidence?

For those of you who missed it last night, here is a link to Malkin on the 7 year old raped in Afhganistan and the parents who refuse to shut up or kill their daughter as custom dictates.
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Also a bonus story. Somali rapist in St Paul is not only ignored while raping a woman in public, but is defended by the Muslim community. And note the record of the violent loon. Who let these savages in?

Why can't they drop a low level nuke on Tora Bora?

Is it that packed with civilians?

Isn't it just a mountain area with some caves?

Why risk our men?

Yes, MEN.

No No NO!

We are waiting for the dreaded Taliban Offensive... NOT some wild tales about US/Afghan Army success.

/

re: #9 Ben Hur

I think a better question is why haven't we identified all the passes and trails into Pakistan after all these years.

If we know they are 'gathered' we should destroy the whole area and the 'gathering' within it.

Of course, maybe it's just a wedding.

310 killed in northwest Pakistan in month

Looks like a coordinated offensive on both sides of the border is underway. Could be the beginning of the end? One can only hope.

We sure kill a lot of these bad 'slims. Yesterday I heard we are killing around 1500 per week in Iraq? Anyone else hear that or know of a way the numbers can be substantiated? At some point you would think that the near certainty of violent death VS the 'slim chance of killing a U.S. Marine would slow down the incoming 'slims. Isn't there some futility rate in armed conflict where those getting crushed become demoralized?

Or do they believe this is the only way they are ever going to have sex with a woman?

Wait a minute! I heard that the U.S. military effort in Afghanistan is made up of "air-raiding villages and killing civilians."

/these is no candidate but obama; oprah is the messenger of obama.

re: #14 filetandrelease

I heard it was 1500 a month. Will try to verify.

What no hat-tip, Charles?

The interesting part of the report is that their were large numbers of the AQ Black Guard in Tora Bora along with their commander. Why? Who were they protecting? And is this person now dead, pretty please?

re: #11 pat

Look at a relief map. You'll see the reason.

nothing at all against Bill Roggio, but I always wonder when I hear a unit described as being "crack" or "elite" - I guess it stems from the description of the Iraqi Republican Guard as being "elite" as if that was part of its name - seems to me that the truly elite are the ones who do not need to be so labeled - their name enough is alone - historically thinking of units like the 101st & 82nd Airborne, Patton's 4th Armored, etc. - not to mention similar units from other combatants then & now.

In the meantime, whatever they are, kill them like cockroaches...

re: #16 JAFO

Oh, but killing terrorists just makes them breed more, don't you know? Like tapeworms or something... fighting them makes them stronger. Therefore the best way to win is to surrender!

Hey, I think I just discovered the Dhimmocrat thought process.

re: #14 filetandrelease

Yesterday I heard we are killing around 1500 per week in Iraq?

Bush gave a speech a couple days ago where he stated that over 1500 a month had been sent to the virgins.

re: #19 darkster2400

"crack" units compared to the usual Taliban shmucks with plastic bags for boots... make no mistake, some units of AQ have been very tough fighters (see the Battle of Donkey Island), while others are pathetic punks.

re: #19 darkster2400

nothing at all against Bill Roggio, but I always wonder when I hear a unit described as being "crack" or "elite" - I guess it stems from the description of the Iraqi Republican Guard as being "elite" as if that was part of its name - seems to me that the truly elite are the ones who do not need to be so labeled - their name enough is alone - historically thinking of units like the 101st & 82nd Airborne, Patton's 4th Armored, etc. - not to mention similar units from other combatants then & now.

In the meantime, whatever they are, kill them like cockroaches...

as far as the tora bora group i think the "elite units" sleep in the cave and shit outside of it. the "crack units" do vice-versa.

Bridging the gulf of misunderstanding between Muslims and infidels comes this message from Ayman Zawahiri,

Koran 60:4: “‘We disown you and the idols which you worship besides Allah. We renounce you: enmity and hate shall reign between us until you believe in Allah alone.’” On this authority comes the necessity to wage jihad against the infidel.

Got it?

Sad news from Afghanistan today: U.S. bomb kills 3 U.K. soldiers in Afghanistan

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan - A bomb apparently dropped by an American fighter jet called in for air support killed three British soldiers in southern Afghanistan, officials said Friday. Two soldiers were seriously wounded.

The British unit was on patrol Thursday evening in Helmand province when it came under Taliban attack, the British Ministry of Defense said.

“During the intense engagement that ensued, close air support was called in from two U.S. F-15 aircraft to repel the enemy. One bomb was dropped and it is believed the explosion killed the three soldiers.”

The next section of The Al Qaeda Reader comprises selections Ibrahim calls “propaganda,” arguments designed for Westerners that exploit all the self-loathing pathologies of Western intellectuals. Every distortion of history repeated in thousands of American college classrooms, every lurid lie peddled by the Chomsky-Moore cult is repeated by bin Laden, the only difference being a much more explicit indulgence in anti-Semitism. Thus in “Israel, Oil, and Iraq,” Bin Laden really doesn’t sound much different from your typical college professor off on a rant about the Halliburton-Cheney-Bush-neocon [read Jews] nexus. We hear about the “Jews — who direct you [Americans] through the lie of ‘democracy’ to support the Israelis and their machination and in complete antagonism to our religion,” which is basically the same argument American academics continually make about the “Israeli lobby.” Bush is castigated in Chomskyean terms for “concealing his own ambitions and the ambitions of the Zionist lobby in their desire for oil.” Western guilt is massaged by statements like, “He [Bush] is still following the policy of his ancestors who slew the American Indians in order to seize their land and wealth” — this coming from a devotee of the most ruthlessly imperial religion ever. And our old leftist bogey, the “military-industrial complex,” appears when bin Laden tells our troops, “You are spilling your blood to swell the bank accounts of the White House gang and their fellow arms dealers and the proprietors of great companies.”

re: #1 maddogg

Scores of Taliban and al Qaeda operatives are reported to have been captured after upwards of 50 terrorists were killed in the initial fighting. A senior al Qaeda leader was also reported to have been wounded in the attack.

Thats a mistake! Kill, don't capture!

No, no, no, dead men tell no tales, arrrggg.

re: #7 Iron Fist

"Dr. Amin al Haq"

What is it with doctors and terrorism? Do they just make up their doctorate? I don't think so. The doctors in Glasgow were real doctors, and the chinless ophthalmologist is for real. It is more evidence that, rather than being the poor, oppressed, etc. the terrorists are coming from the upper crust of the Mohammedan world.

I guess that says something about the Mohammedans.

The intelligent terrorists, as opposed to the cannon-fodder, come from the upper crust, and always have. They are not poor. Their main issue with the world is that they have not been awarded the status and admiration that their psychotic minds think they deserve.

In many places, the more intelligent children of the wealthy gravitate towards being doctors or lawyers. But being a successful leader of a rebellion counts as being even higher status

re: #9 Ben Hur

Drop the bunker bombs!

re: #22 Kenneth

I'm sure that as distasteful as it is, there are some units in "unfriendly" militaries or terrorist groups that really know how to fight. I just think that the term is likely overused.

re: #16 JAFO

re: #14 filetandrelease

I heard it was 1500 a month. Will try to verify.

President Bush gave that number in his speech the other day.

Chinese Muslims? Wasn't there discussion about Chinese muslims yesterday? So this is what they are doing. Could very well be unofficially supported by the Chinese regime. Wouldn't it be interesting if Chinese muslims starting appearing at Gitmo?

You just know that Russia and China are pleased as punch that we are so entangled in the muslim-morass.

re: #13 BrianA

from your lips to G-d's ears...

re: #30 darkster2400

I share your disgust. Did you read about this battle? A small group of US soldiers came across a much larger, and better armed, Al Qaeda force. Guess who lost...

So the term "crack forces" is a relative term.

re: #32 Russkilitlover

You can bet any Chinese Al-Qaeda captured by the US will be thanking Allah they weren't captured by the Chinese.

re: #35 Kenneth

There is a Canadian Muslim (citizen of Canada after immigrating from Uzbekstan but also has Chinese citizenship) who was seized by Uzbeck authorities and delivered to China on the charge he was somehow involved in creating terrorism among Muslims in China. HIs wife was making a lot of noise in the press here about how the Chinese were going to torture him, he was an innocent civil rights activist helping Uzbeck Muslims attain their freedom from oppression ect and so forth.

It was weird. There really wasn't a lot of sympathy for the guy...

re: #36 Judith

It was weird. There really wasn't a lot of sympathy for the guy...

Just wait. In a few years the gov't will give him $10.5 million dollars and apology.

re: #34 Kenneth

re: #30 darkster2400

I share your disgust. Did you read about this battle? A small group of US soldiers came across a much larger, and better armed, Al Qaeda force. Guess who lost...

So the term "crack forces" is a relative term.

Don't know what you meant by the term "Crack Forces" as it's clear to me that the US Forces kicked ass, though of course they took casualties of their own, being significantly outnumbered. In my combat experience, what those US forces did showed them to indeed be "Crack Forces"
What I found most troubling in the entire article was this:
"Fighters in white tunics and running shoes moved like ghosts over the battlefield, displaying tactics that the Americans said mirrored their own. They signaled with flashlights, bounded into position and crawled to try to evade the superior U.S. firepower."
These may have been "insurgents" but they have obviously had a good deal of real military tactics, too. They are not the typical
"guerrilla" or "insurgent" fighters - these were trained soldiers.

re: #14 filetandrelease

The latter.

re: #38 realwest

I meant "crack" as in good for AQ, but when the go up against regular US troops, they still loose.

My guess is they were trained either in Syria or Iran, or, they have developed their own good training methods. There is (or was) a senior AQ-Iraq commander who was a former Egyptian Special Forces officer, and they are trained by the US. So US techniques get around.

Go get 'em, soldiers!

May God protect our fighting men and women.

re: #38 realwest

more... I recall reading reports a couple years back about how poorly the insurgents in Iraq fought. The US troops would slaughter them in every encounter. But over the last year, their skill, weapons & tactics have improved considerably. The US troops still slaughter them, but it takes longer.

The point being, somebody is training them: Iran. And if the US doesn't keep pushing hard to defeat them now, the terrorists will learn, adapt & adopt more knowledge on how to fight Western armies. They will be back.

Circle and destroy. Good job.

How many times are we gonna go on the offensive in Afghanistan?

The reason the MSM doesn't cover it is because they know it'll net next to no long term results. This isn't a rag on the military, its a rag on the political constraints put on them by us.

NIFO and be done with it already.

OT: Did you know most courts in Dallas county have an hour in which the entire court closes so everyone can take lunch, all at once?

re: #46 ploome hineni

That sounds to me like a pretty effective fighting tactic when you are outmatched in every way except manueverability.

re: #43 ploome hineni

were at a disadvantage to the arabs with no armor, who rode in slashed and killed and rode out

There is some truth to that, but it isn't the whole story. Arab light cavalry were slaughtered by Martel's heavy infantry at Poitiers. Similar battles were won by the Crusaders in the Holy Land. Ultimately, the Crusaders were defeated because of internal political squabbling & a lack of will in Christiandom.

its amazing how a similar situation now exists

Ain't it the truth!

Several senior al Qaeda leaders — such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Saif al Adel, and Walid bin Attash — rose through the ranks in al Qaeda by serving in the Black Guard. A Special Forces raid against the Black Guard camp in Danda Saidgai in North Waziristan, Pakistan in March 2006 resulted in the death of Imam Asad and several dozen members of the Black Guard.

Well I'll be, thought we couldn't go in to Pakistan.

Prisoners? We don't need no steenkin' prisoners.

re: #1 maddogg

Thats a mistake! Kill, don't capture!

Dead men don't offer up information.

Al Haq was born in Afghanistan’s Nangarhar province, was educated as a doctor, and practiced medicine in Pakistan

Say "ah"!

The Afghan mission is vital in eradicating the command and control of Islamic terrorism--the MSM has done nothing but denegrate and magnify the casualty count and question the goals of the mission---Canada has taken it's share of risk and has lost almost seventy Nato participant troops to roadside bombs and suicide homicide bombers--despite this the Canadian population is slightly over 50% supportive of the Afghan mission--the current contingent of Francephone Canadians has been there for three weeks and already lost 3 to roadside bombs--the existing low approval ratings in Quebec have now tanked and there is huge pressure to abandon the mission by 2009 --any Coalition innovation or tactical alteration that can reduce the carnage from these hidden expolsives both in Iraq and Afghanistan will greatly deminish the political pressure to vacate the current fight at the source of global Islamist terrorism---neither the Iraqis or Afghans will have the capability to enforce order for decades to come unless the driving force behind the entire terrorist movement is expunged---Iran and its minion Syria are the main instigators and the Saudis the covert financiers ---the Russians and Chinese who will sell anything to anyone for cash must be confronted less one more of these lunatic Muslim Autocracies becomes nuclear--the current excample of an existing armed Pakistan verging on fundamentalist takeover is dangerous enough to make a clear unmistakeable argument for the continuation of the current mission and beyond.

re: #14 filetandrelease

Isn't there some futility rate in armed conflict where those getting crushed become demoralized?

Or do they believe this is the only way they are ever going to have sex with a woman?

Yup...their commitment to their loony religion/cult/ideology gives them added incentive to fight on, because it's a win/win for them. If they kill infidels, then they are happy. If they are killed by infidels, then they become martyrs. Death is a release for them, not something to avoid. Why don't the idiots just shoot themselves and save us the time and trouble?

Is this al Haq a medical doctor, or just a Phd?

ben hur:

they don't drop a tactical nuke because that would be a waste of firepower. how many people can a 2000 lb bomb kill out of the 500 they have there? plus the propaganda they'd spew after that would be a serious pain in the butt, much like a hemmhoroid only one that would last forever.

probably not a good idea to use nukes in asia either, lest we set an example for the russians and chinese and pakistanis.

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