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HuffPo Writer Calls for Military Coup in US

Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 3:45:02 pm PDT

The Huffington Post continues to produce the craziest of left-wing writing; now there’s an idiot calling for Peter Pace to stage a military coup.

Will this stellar example of moonbat thought also be featured at Yahoo News?

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1 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:46:15pm
2 JWM  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:46:32pm

from the huffglue article:


Just as he has ignored the advice of other Generals who have had the courage to respectfully point out how terribly wrong he is in respect of the Iraq War and the safety of the US military he is sworn to protect.
Sentence fragment- back to English 56t.
And dude- the President of the United States of America is not sworn to protect the military. The military is sworn to protect us.

JWM

3 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:47:46pm

It's the HuffPost. Surprised they didn't unveil such genius earlier.

Martin Lewis is quite the comedian.

4 winston06  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:47:47pm

these people are mentally ill and full of hatred for America...

5 Charles  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:48:00pm
6 suboptimal  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:48:00pm

Treason by any other name would still be as bitter

7 mama winger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:49:28pm

re: #5 Charles

What the hell was that ?

8 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:49:55pm
9 Racer X  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:50:47pm

re: #5 Charles

Speechless.

10 postaldog  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:51:28pm

I love how each time someone comments that Pace has no authority over the President (duh!), this clown responds with how it doesn't matter, he just wants it done. You know . . . to make a point.

But it's not a coup.

11 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:51:55pm

The Kos Kid managed to get through the first paragraph without looking like an idiot. All downhill now...

I am shore you have held a cat or two, I would Bet it is as soft and smooth as the goat skin God ordered too cover the Ark.

12 mama winger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:52:00pm

What scares me is that these people are allowed to vote.

13 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:52:14pm

So a military coupe is the way to 'restore' Democracy? just doen't ring right. Can't quite put my finger on it...

14 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:52:17pm

re: #5 Charles

I saw that earlier and didn't know what to think.

15 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:52:33pm

re: #5 Charles

Daily Kos: Love furry pussy, Hate cats


After reading the diary, I can safely assume English is not his/her first language. Or he/she is yet another pre-teen diarist posting from mama's basement.

16 mondoreb  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:53:02pm

I want to take a deep look at this trash and not just fire off a post.


oops!

17 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:53:02pm

re: #5 Charles

Daily Kos: Love furry pussy, Hate cats

Charles, now you are bottom fishing.

18 mama winger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:53:20pm

re: #14 Killgore Trout

re: #5 Charles

I saw that earlier and didn't know what to think.

You don't think until I tell you to think.

19 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:53:25pm
20 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:53:26pm

Wait a minute. It's downhill from the get-go...

WTF was that?

21 JWM  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:53:27pm

re: #5 Charles

*sigh*
Just another case of you knuckle dragging lizardoids' failure to appreciate the subtlety of Kostard humor. If you'd all been to university you'd get the joke.
/

JWM

22 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:53:32pm

re: #5 Charles

They need Pussy Control.

23 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:53:54pm

re: #18 mama winger

LOL

24 goodbye_natalie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:54:03pm

re: #5 Charles

Like David Lee Roth was fond of saying, "Here's one for the ladies."

25 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:54:08pm

re: #17 pat

Charles, now you are bottom fishing

.
It ~is~ a target rich environment.

26 WimbledonWomble  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:55:00pm

It's sad to say, but lefties would need a major terrorist attack in their town every week to be jarred awake and maintain a sense of urgency. They don't understand the global threads of jihad, even though they pretend to be globally aware. They don't understand that non-physically violent (now) Islamists in the US, through organizations like CAIR and ISNA, and the MSA on university and college campuses, are slowly hammering away at the liberal values that allow leftists to say what they want and do what they want without being arrested and persecuted. They don't understand that the daily acts of terrorism in other countries are part of the whole, and that each successful attack elsewhere brings more attacks here closer to home, as the ties between those jihadis and our own Islamists in the West are so close and as the jihadis get pumped up and bolder with each success.

Leftists are hopeless. The best of them believe in some way that "All you need is love." The worst of them simply hate the West - and themselves - so much, that they would like to see it all destroyed. What do they need to wake up? Their own self-absorbed selves in immediate and constant danger? What they don't realize is that even if a bomb is not going off next to their home, they are in danger. What they don't realize is that their apologies and excuses and agitation helps to create the conditions that put their lives - or at least their liberal lifestyles - in danger in the long run. Poor misguided souls. They are the aiders and abetters and facilitators of the jihadis.

27 varmint  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:55:12pm

i'm picturing the guy from silence of the lambs, only with cats.

excellent speller too.


i am really intrigued by dog fighting all of a sudden. all the cool people are doing it.

28 Pdogg  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:55:39pm
There should be some way to contact a monitor or something. These kind of diaries not only are obnoxious and annoying, but also can lead to bad publicity from the likes of O'Rielly who I am sure has people monitoring the site too.


Oh, if they only knew.

29 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:56:00pm
I am NOT advocating or inciting you to interfere with any of the civilian duties of the President. That would not be a legal action by you.

BUT...

There's always a but- and the left always thinks that "BUT..." gets them off the hook.

30 Ginn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:56:11pm

re: #5 Charles

Daily Kos: Love furry pussy, Hate cats

Hunh?

(tried to read it, honestly, I tried!)

Hahaha!

31 Bobblehead  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:56:13pm

re: #5 Charles

Charming, just charming.

32 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:56:16pm

Capt. Ed chimes in.

August 25, 2007
HuffPo Calls For Military Coup In USA

[Link: www.captainsquartersblog.com...]

The Huffington Post published a plea to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs today to arrest George Bush for "conduct unbecoming" -- essentially, a military coup against the elected government of the United States. Martin Lewis claims that the military can arrest a President while not conducting a coup d'etat by focusing only on his role as Commander in Chief of the military:

General Pace - you have the power to fulfill your responsibility to protect the troops under your command. Indeed you have an obligation to do so.

You can relieve the President of his command.

Not of his Presidency. But of his military role as Commander-In-Chief. ...
In addition to relieving him of his command as Commander-In-Chief, you also have authority to place the President under MILITARY arrest.

Lewis quotes extensively from the Uniform Code of Military Justice, but clearly his scholarship does not extend to the Constitution. The command of the armed forces follows from the president's election to office, and cannot be separated from the office itself. Bush isn't C-in-C because he got appointed to that position, but because the American electorate voted him into that role. In other words, the military cannot arrest the C-in-C but leave the President in power, and to argue otherwise is to demonstrate complete ignorance.

Secondly, the President does not serve at the pleasure of the Joint Chiefs -- and indeed, the military is subservient to the civilian command structure. They do not have arrest authority over the President -- nor over anyone else in the US other than military personnel, as the Posse Comitatus Act stipulates. Civilian oversight keeps the military from seizing power and is a long and vital tradition in this nation. It's what keeps us from becoming a banana republic, run by military strongmen.

Lewis wants to turn America into just that kind of nation. His Bush-hatred runs so deep that he would willingly see the military take control over the federal government just to get rid of him. The Left likes to talk about supposed fascism among conservatives, but the Huffington Post is literally calling for a military coup to reverse an election, not only an un-Constitutional act but also the kind of authoritarian rule they supposedly despise.

Unbelievable. (via Memeorandum)

Posted by Ed Morrissey on August 25, 2007

33 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:56:25pm

Sifting through the comments, and they must be censoring them, I see Lewis is trying to rebut most of them.

He's an imbecile.

34 Render  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:56:44pm

Ahhh - The Master is at work.

In an attempt to catch up, lemme run this around the corner from one street back...

===

Somebody on the Left just realized that without guns and training, they don't have a snowballs chance in hell of overthrowing the US. They must really be desperate if they think the US Army is gonna help them.

I'm not a legal eagle either, but I think this letter may very well be covered under at least one of the Treason Acts, maybe the 1917 Espionage Act, or the Sedition Act of 1918.

"...whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

===

#2 JWM You mentioned something in the last thread on this topic that I feel the need to correct...

The US military is not there to protect "us." That's just a pleasant by-product of what the US military Oath actually says.

To Wit; "...to defend the Constitution..."

ARMED
REPUBLIC,
R

35 goodbye_natalie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:57:04pm

PuffHo could save themselves a bunch of words and a bunch of time if they would just run up the Congressional steps with a flag bearing a hammer crossed with a sickle.

36 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:57:27pm

re: #27 varmint

I still like varmint shooting. ;)

37 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:57:42pm

re: #7 mama winger

re: #5 Charles

What the hell was that ?

A little too much LDS.

38 JWM  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:58:54pm

re: #34 Render

A fine, but worthwhile distinction. I stand corrected.

JWM

39 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:59:24pm
40 j-damn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:59:27pm

I'm all for a military coup. Unfortunately for the moronic fucking dolts who read the HuffPo, any coup by the US military would install a government far to the right of George W Bush, one that would probably reinstate the draft and kick major ass on half a dozen or more terrorist-enabling countries.

And it just might put people who read the HuffPo into camps.

So yes, bring on the coup...dumbass.

41 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 3:59:51pm

Notice how craftily this was written. The writer denies, many times, any thought of treason, sedition, etc., rather the claim is that the Pres should be removed for conduct unbecoming an officer, though as CinC he is not an officer.
Their intent is obvious, but they're covering their tracks, wrapping themselves in the flag.
In any other country, in wartime, these bastards would be shot. I'll volunteer for the firing party.

42 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:00:07pm

re: #26 WimbledonWomble

It's sad to say, but lefties would need a major terrorist attack in their town every week to be jarred awake and maintain a sense of urgency...

Yeah, they'd feel even more urgency to get rid of Bushitler who's behind it all.

Some people are simply beyond reason.

43 stuck-in-ca  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:00:42pm

If there are going to be any military coups, I hope it's to clean up Congress. They should start with the lefties, then work their way down through the RINOs. The place is lousy with both of them.

Meanwhile...

OT- Anti-Sactuary City Rally in Long Beach, CA

Protest the ILLEGAL Sanctuary aiding and abetting Liliana, an illegal alien who posed as an American by using FAKE I.D.!

When: Sunday, September 16th
Time: 10am until 1pm
Place: St. Luke's Episcopal Church [Link: www.stlukeslb.org...]
Address: 525 E. 7th Street, Long Beach, CA 90813
Contact Info for St. Luke's: [Link: www.stlukeslb.org...]

Also please note that while this church harbors an illegal alien inside, American homeless sleep in the bushes outside their church! (Our own California Poppy has photos.)

Further keep in mind this church has bars around their church and locks! When Watchdog, JeanfromFilmore, a friend, and I presented one of the pastors with an envelope filled with scripture and e-mails, we were told that we were NOT ALLOWED in their church!

All activists are called to protest with us on Sept. 16th. The illegal supporters are ANGRY that Elvira was deported. Expect a mass counter protest by the illegal supporters who think it is ok to be break laws.
I am asking every one of you to help and promote this protest. Email it everywhere. Post it on blogs. Send it out to your lists several times. Get on the phone and convince other activists that it is worth coming to. Make sure to bring friends and family to the event. We have a bit more than three weeks to do it. Lets get rollin !

44 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:00:57pm

re: #37 JamesTKirk
Latter Day Saints?

45 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:01:14pm

re: #26 WimbledonWomble

"...The worst of them simply hate the West - and themselves - so much, that they would like to see it all destroyed..."


This has been demonstrated time and again by these people going back to the 60s. By '72 I was firmly convinced these individuals hated the USA and the West that much. The culmination for me came when the Methodist pastor in our little church got up in the pulpit one Sunday and started off by condemning my father, in absentia as he was in Nam, for being in Vietnam. She then went on to state the USA needed to be burned to the ground and started afresh. I walked out and have never returned to a Methodist service.
I have seen and heard this same sentiment expressed ever since from this same crowd.

46 mondoreb  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:01:14pm

Thank God, the author is a member of the 'responsible Left'.

In a coup, those valiant defenders of our military, the KOSkids and GlueHuffersPost, would be the first ones shot.

47 squarepeg  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:01:39pm

re: #5 Charles

Is there a term for a blogger who disguises themselves as a sympathizer and posts something outrageous in order to make the community look bad? Something more specialized than "troll." Reverse sock puppet, or something.

By the way, what's a moby?

48 Ginn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:02:15pm

However, given the current imperilment of US troops, and the "Conduct Unbecoming Of An Officer And A Gentleman" of this President - you have a greater responsibility to your nation, your code of honor and to the US Constitution.

I wish you well as you prepare to undertake the most heroic action of your distinguished career.

General Pace - please save the US.

Respectfully yours,

Martin Lewis

EXTRA! EXTRA!

In Unprecedented Move Joint Chief Of Staffs General Pace Relieves President Bush Of Commander In Chief Duties!

"When I read the letter from Martin Lewis I just had to do it," General Pace declared.

49 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:02:36pm

If the UCMJ applied to to Presidents...

(thinking back to Bush's predecessor)

50 JWM  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:02:41pm

re: #47 squarepeg
A Moby is exactly what you just described.

JWM

51 Render  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:03:34pm

Martin Lewis now has a Secret Service file. If he didn't already...

WOODROW
WILSON,
R

52 Thanos  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:03:41pm

re: #5 Charles

Daily Kos: Love furry pussy, Hate cats

DKOS Kitty Killing Kampaign?

53 goodbye_natalie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:03:54pm

re: #50 JWM

LOL. You beat me to it...

54 mama winger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:04:00pm

re: #45 Outrider

The culmination for me came when the Methodist pastor in our little church got up in the pulpit one Sunday and started off by condemning my father, in absentia as he was in Nam, for being in Vietnam. She then went on to state the USA needed to be burned to the ground and started afresh.

What the HECK ?!?

55 Ginn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:04:00pm

re: #46 mondoreb

Thank God, the author is a member of the 'responsible Left'.

In a coup, those valiant defenders of our military, the KOSkids and GlueHuffersPost, would be the first ones shot.

They seem to be unable to look into the future...

56 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:05:00pm

Where do they find these crap ideas? I think they need to put down the bong and read more of the constitution and the UCMJ. If the military had the authority to do something like that, they'd have done it quite a long time ago starting with Slick Willie Clinton after his escapades.
If the military did somehow do as this whankbag requests.. rest assured that things would be far more to the right than Bush. I'd love to see the military do it.. clean congress out, bring back the draft, and generally do everything the left is afraid of.

57 happy4la  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:05:48pm

Martin Lewis? Were his parents big Jerry Lewis fans? But he is a bad joke if you want to look at it that way, it is a joke right?

58 j-damn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:06:03pm
The culmination for me came when the Methodist pastor in our little church got up in the pulpit one Sunday and started off by condemning my father, in absentia as he was in Nam, for being in Vietnam. She

Okay, well there was your first problem, right there...

59 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:06:15pm

re: #32 Bobibutu

"...It's what keeps us from becoming a banana republic, run by military strongmen.

Lewis wants to turn America into just that kind of nation..."


There is a lot of truth to that statement. Consider the actions and words of Sean Penn (was it?) who was visiting Chevez on the day he declared himself President for Life. Positively gushing. The leftists in this country adore Chevez and can find no wrong with him, indeed they want his policies emulated here.

So, what is the difference between their admiration for Chevez and the desires of this Lewis individual?

60 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:06:23pm

So Benedict Arnold is the new moonbat hero.

61 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:06:50pm

re: #18 mama winger

That explains my confusion then.

62 mama winger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:06:52pm

re: #55 Ginn

They seem to be unable to look into the future...


... and are clueless when it comes to understanding the mistakes of the past.

63 mama winger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:07:26pm

re: #61 Killgore Trout

re: #18 mama winger

That explains my confusion then.

You betcha. Stick with me kid. It's your only hope.

64 Thanos  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:07:34pm

re: #56 baconeatingkaffir

Where do they find these crap ideas? I think they need to put down the bong and read more of the constitution and the UCMJ. If the military had the authority to do something like that, they'd have done it quite a long time ago starting with Slick Willie Clinton after his escapades.
If the military did somehow do as this whankbag requests.. rest assured that things would be far more to the right than Bush. I'd love to see the military do it.. clean congress out, bring back the draft, and generally do everything the left is afraid of.

They want us to be just like Pakistan.

OT: But this goes with the Anti-Sanctuary rally posted above

The next Looming Social Security Crisis

65 Ginn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:07:58pm

re: #62 mama winger

re: #55 Ginn

They seem to be unable to look into the future...


... and are clueless when it comes to understanding the mistakes of the past.

Poor bastards!

66 goodbye_natalie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:08:12pm

Sure hope somebody has the good sense to get this wonderful suggestion forwarded to General Pace. I can hardly wait for General Pace's response to the requestor.

This one looks like a good case for recalling Saddam's hangin' crew. The ones who couldn't get it quite right the first time. Where's Judge Roy Bean when you need him?

67 Thanos  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:09:44pm

What are they going to do in 2009? Nobody in place to hate or blame for all ill, all weather, all bad karma, all upset feelings in the world? There's going to mass psychosis on the left.

68 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:10:06pm

Is Castro dead?

69 tblot  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:10:15pm

I see the President is coming to seattle next week. With all the Freeway repaired work and there not telling anyone when he is coming to town. The left here are going out of there way to protest. Should be kinda funny seeing these clowns on tv

70 squarepeg  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:10:40pm

re: #50 JWM

re: #47 squarepeg
A Moby is exactly what you just described.

JWM

Bango! Killed two birds with one stone.

Very well then, equipped with my spanking new vocabulary word, I say this: Perhaps roxnev is a moby.

/Do I get an "A"?

71 Thanos  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:11:29pm

argh, I really have to stop multi-tasking, you can tell when I'm on a conference call.

72 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:11:30pm

re: #68 pat

Is Castro dead?

He'll never be dead, as long as he lives on the hearts of basement-dwelling moonbats everywhere. Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Castro...

73 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:11:50pm

re: #63 mama winger

How are your relocation plans moving along?

74 WimbledonWomble  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:12:11pm

re: #45 Outrider

re: #26 WimbledonWomble


"...The worst of them simply hate the West - and themselves - so much, that they would like to see it all destroyed..."


This has been demonstrated time and again by these people going back to the 60s. By '72 I was firmly convinced these individuals hated the USA and the West that much. The culmination for me came when the Methodist pastor in our little church got up in the pulpit one Sunday and started off by condemning my father, in absentia as he was in Nam, for being in Vietnam. She then went on to state the USA needed to be burned to the ground and started afresh. I walked out and have never returned to a Methodist service.
I have seen and heard this same sentiment expressed ever since from this same crowd.

That's pathetic, and it just shows the "compassion" at the heart of many of these liberals.

What happened to the days when the left was on the side of labor and the average man? Now they seem on the side of every half-baked elitist with crazy ideas. Whites are out, unless they hate themselves. Protecting American jobs is not important. Open borders are good. Islamists are good. It's all about diversity and not making any judgements, and not happing working people at all, despite the fact that they still try to talk the talk. Harry Truman would never have held these beliefs and would absolutely despise Hillary and Obama and the rest.

It all started with JFK, the elitism and multiculturalism that has come to characterize Dems.

Mondale was the last old-style democrat, but he had all of the bad traits and none of the good, and he was facing Reagan. No chance.

The Dem party is lost. It might win this election, just because the Iraq war is unpopular, but they have nothing else to commend themselves. They have no positive positions. They just exploit anger.

75 ornery elephant  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:12:33pm

Am I missing something here? Maybe I'm just confused but wasn't General Pace in essence FIRED a couple of months ago? Does he actually leave his post later?

Maybe I have that wrong but it seemed to me that General Pace refused to resign his post and forced his own firing and so I'm wondering why this guy is writing a letter to Pace.

76 Thanos  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:12:36pm

re: #70 squarepeg

re: #50 JWM


re: #47 squarepeg
A Moby is exactly what you just described.

JWM


Bango! Killed two birds with one stone.

Very well then, equipped with my spanking new vocabulary word, I say this: Perhaps roxnev is a moby.

/Do I get an "A"?

Well Moby's come here from the left, so what's the antithesis to a moby from the left? An Ahab from the right?

77 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:13:08pm

I think Castro is on a life support machine (marked Made in USA). I think he is brain dead and everyone of consequence knows it.

78 squarepeg  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:13:24pm

re: #68 pat

Is Castro dead?

MiguelDownInMexico thinks so, on account of the birthday absence.

79 goodbye_natalie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:14:03pm

Boy, even the PuffHO crowd is chastising this clown.

Hope he realizes that he has now hit rock bottom when the troofers and Lisa Douglas Arianna Huffington condemn a suggestion.

80 galloping granny  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:14:12pm

re: #54 mama winger

re: #45 Outrider

The culmination for me came when the Methodist pastor in our little church got up in the pulpit one Sunday and started off by condemning my father, in absentia as he was in Nam, for being in Vietnam. She then went on to state the USA needed to be burned to the ground and started afresh.

What the HECK ?!?

Were there actually any FEMALE Methodist pastors during the Vietnam era? I certainly never heard of any. Those were still the days when women had to hand over their husband's name, employer and so forth to get a job at all. When you lost your credit the day you got married. When you could not buy birth control in many states unless you were married. When women were not accepted at the CIA (as in Culinary Institute) - or Harvard.

Sounds like an absolute crock to me.

81 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:14:14pm

re: #77 pat

I think Castro ... is brain dead

Yet another thing he has in common with his KOSfans.

82 Racer X  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:14:31pm

Funny to see all the knuckleheads over at kos who still have the "Impeach Bush" tag on their comments. Go ahead! Impeach Bush! Do it!

Cheney would make a much better president.

Morons.

83 Christinewjc  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:15:12pm

What does it take for someone to be considered guilty of treason these days? Sheesh!

84 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:15:16pm

re: #43 stuck-in-ca
Thanks for the info...will pass it on.

Wonder how everything went for the LAPD at the "pro Elvira" march today in downtown Los Angeles. TFK thinks things are going to get pretty hot around here.

85 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:15:29pm

re: #74 WimbledonWomble

The left has become the enemy of working people. it is now a pure Special Interest and racial play. The average worker misses the point and his union leaders are complicit.

86 mama winger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:15:50pm

re: #73 Killgore Trout

re: #63 mama winger

How are your relocation plans moving along?

Well, KT, I plan on spending more and more time in the UP as my health and the weather allows. The cabin is not winterized, so that will take some work over time. I anticipate in about 5-6 years I'll be there half the year, and then I'll see about fulltime if my old bones can take the cold.

How about your hunt ?

87 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:15:56pm

re: #82 Racer X

Funny to see all the knuckleheads over at kos who still have the "Impeach Bush" tag on their comments. Go ahead! Impeach Bush! Do it!

Cheney would make a much better president.

Morons.

You don't think they want to stop with Bush, do you? Not when Nancy Pelosi is a heartbeat (and a pacemaker) away from the Oval Office!

88 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:16:36pm

re: #83 Christinewjc

What does it take for someone to be considered guilty of treason these days? Sheesh!

Since Jane Fonda, it seems to be impossible to be charged with treason.

89 tblot  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:17:28pm

re: #77 pat

cuban health care at work

90 Racer X  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:18:39pm

re: #87 JamesTKirk

re: #82 Racer X

Funny to see all the knuckleheads over at kos who still have the "Impeach Bush" tag on their comments. Go ahead! Impeach Bush! Do it!

Cheney would make a much better president.

Morons.

You don't think they want to stop with Bush, do you? Not when Nancy Pelosi is a heartbeat (and a pacemaker) away from the Oval Office!

OK, it works like this:

Impeach Bush - Cheney becomes pres and appoints Rove as VP.

Impeach Cheney and guess what? Rove is President!


Rove you magnificent bastard!

91 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:18:52pm

Castro, reached for comment, had only one statement for the media: "Braaaiinnnsss..."

DailyKOS were unable to find any to send him.

92 mama winger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:19:39pm

I need liquor.

bbiab

93 hazzyday  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:20:11pm

Call a bird flu emergency.
Have the Feds buy up remote land in Minnesota.
Build the bird flu containment camps.
Quarantine the inflicted ones that have Bird derangement syndrome.

94 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:20:34pm

re: #86 mama winger

I'm going to be very busy this winter fixing up my house for sale in the spring.
I'm exploring buying a few acres and building a Breezeway House. But figuring out the exact cost is getting complicated.

95 zombie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:21:14pm

I'll try to phrase this in such a way so as to not reveal too much.

In the high-end literary world, getting a gig to write for Huffington Post is considered a hugely prestigious boost to your career. If you're fishing for a book contract, you'll be offered X amount if you're just a regular person; but if you've gotten something published in the Huffington Post, you'll be offered X + X + X amount. It's considered a "platform" and that Huffpo writers all have a "fanbase" and built-in name recognition.

Which is why everyone clamors to write for them, even though Huffpo pays nothing, and then resells your writing to the news syndicates for a profit.

Such a scam.

Anyway, all the craziness that get published on Huffpo every day in no way has diminished its stature in the writerly world. Unbelievable.

Take it from me. Personal experience.

96 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:21:44pm

re: #90 Racer X

OK, it works like this:

Impeach Bush - Cheney becomes pres and appoints Rove as VP.

It doesn't work that way. Cheney does not get to choose his VP.

If they so desire, and were already capable of impeaching Bush (unlikely, but for the sake of argument), Congress could refuse to confirm someone for the position long enough to kick off Cheney's impeachment and allow the job to fall onto Pelosi (opening up her seat in Congress for Sheehan).

97 GreenDroll  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:22:02pm

The writer of this brilliant legal analysis should be investigated for the purpose of having the accreditation of whatever University, College, High School, Reform School, or Mental Institution he attended pulled. If you have no idea how your own government is organized, how to express a clear idea in writing, or use a spell checker, you should still be in elementary school.
Maybe the writer is. It would explain his ideas.

98 grayp  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:24:14pm

There's a great piece in the Weekly Standard by Noemie Emery about the paranoia of the Left.

Naomi Wolf--last heard from in 2000 advising Al Gore to dress in earth tones--is looking back to a real past in Europe, and seeing troubling parallels. In 4,600 overwrought words, she explained to the readers of the Guardian that there are ten steps to "Fascist America" and Bush is taking them all. He has whipped up a menace (the war on terror); created "a prison system outside the rule of law" (Guantánamo, to which public dissidents, including "clergy and journalists" will be sent "soon enough"); developed "a thug caste . . . groups of scary young men out to terrorize citizens" (young Republican staffers who supposedly "menaced poll workers" during the 2000 recount in Florida); set up an "internal surveillance system" (NSA scanning for phone calls to and from terrorists). An airtight case, this, and leading to just one conclusion: "Beneath our very noses, George Bush and his administration are using time-tested tactics to close down an open society. It is time for us to be willing to think the unthinkable . . . that it can happen here."
Well, this explains many things. It explains why poor Cindy Sheehan is now sitting in prison; why Bush critics like CIA retiree Valerie Plame have been ostracized by the corporate media and are wasting away in anonymity; why no critic of Bush can get a hearing, why no book complaining about him can ever get published, and why our multiplexes are filled with one pro-Bush propaganda movie after another, glorifying the Iraq war and rallying the nation behind its leader.

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, Cindy Sheehan is running for Congress; Valerie Plame is rich and famous; the young Republican "thugs" made all of one appearance seven years ago--chanting "Let us in!" when Miami-Dade County vote counters planned to move to a small inner room with no observers present; and press censorship is now so far-reaching that you can't even expose a legal, effective, and top-secret plan to trace terrorists without getting a Pulitzer Prize.

The Horror! The Horror!

99 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:24:31pm
100 squarepeg  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:24:48pm

re: #82 Racer X

Funny to see all the knuckleheads over at kos who still have the "Impeach Bush" tag on their comments. Go ahead! Impeach Bush! Do it!

Cheney would make a much better president.

Morons.

They hired some geniuses to figure it out. All they simply merely have to do is just only this.

101 Q-Burn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:24:56pm

re: #78 squarepeg

re: #68 pat

Is Castro dead?
MiguelDownInMexico thinks so, on account of the birthday absence.

Look for Fidel to live on for years, Weekend at Bernie's style.

102 Racer X  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:25:02pm

re: #96 JamesTKirk

Impeach Bush? It will never happen. Might as well pass a resolution calling for world peace.

103 Thanos  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:25:09pm

re: #94 Killgore Trout

re: #86 mama winger

I'm going to be very busy this winter fixing up my house for sale in the spring.
I'm exploring buying a few acres and building a Breezeway House. But figuring out the exact cost is getting complicated.

KT -- that actually looks pretty nice -- what kind of insulation factors?

104 meMarc  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:25:16pm

re: #5 Charles

Daily Kos: Love furry pussy, Hate cats

A comment at Kos:

There should be some way to contact a monitor or something. These kind of diaries not only are obnoxious and annoying, but also can lead to bad publicity from the likes of O'Rielly who I am sure has people monitoring the site too.


Charles, do you feel slighted?

105 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:26:57pm

re: #102 Racer X

re: #96 JamesTKirk

Impeach Bush? It will never happen. Might as well pass a resolution calling for world peace.

As I said, "unlikely, but for the sake of argument".

106 squarepeg  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:27:17pm

re: #101 Q-Burn

Look for Fidel to live on for years, Weekend at Bernie's style.

Miguel said exactly that! Except maybe it was Weekend at Bernardo's.

107 Lauraf  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:28:54pm

re: #58 j-damn

The culmination for me came when the Methodist pastor in our little church got up in the pulpit one Sunday and started off by condemning my father, in absentia as he was in Nam, for being in Vietnam. She

Okay, well there was your first problem, right there...

Oh really? You must be Catholic? Or Orthodox? Or just non-denominational sexist?

108 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:29:10pm

re: #47 squarepeg

You know- there is an LGF Dictionary.

109 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:29:24pm

Now this is revealing. A survey on the social make up of Diggbots.

[Link: www.surveymonkey.com...]

Note that 43% are atheist. Now that is bizarre.

110 markie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:30:00pm

Its just the left posturing again. There isn't a one of them that knows what the hell a successful military coup looks like that wasn't in some 3rd world hell hole. Not that they'd consider doing it themselves. Or anyone would hold them accountable for advocating the violent overthrow of the government.

111 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:30:34pm

re: #109 pat

Now this is revealing. A survey on the social make up of Diggbots. ... Note that 43% are atheist.

I find that hard to believe.

/sarcasm

112 Q-Burn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:31:06pm

And speaking of cat hate sites, when is someone going to put a stop to this?

113 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:31:28pm
114 Pope Insouciance IV  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:31:28pm

#80 Galloping Granny

Our Methodsit church had a female pastor back in the mid-70's, while I was going to college. She was OK, a little wishy-washy.
These days I'm going to a non-denominational Christian church.

115 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:31:49pm

re: #59 Outrider

re: #32 Bobibutu

"...It's what keeps us from becoming a banana republic, run by military strongmen.

Lewis wants to turn America into just that kind of nation..."


There is a lot of truth to that statement. Consider the actions and words of Sean Penn (was it?) who was visiting Chevez on the day he declared himself President for Life. Positively gushing. The leftists in this country adore Chevez and can find no wrong with him, indeed they want his policies emulated here.

So, what is the difference between their admiration for Chevez and the desires of this Lewis individual?

Varying degrees of hatred for Bush specifically and the American way of life in general.

116 Winslow Leach, the composer  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:32:24pm

re: #5 Charles

"See my hat?
'Twas my cat!"
- C. Montgomery Burns

117 markie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:32:47pm

re: #111 JamesTKirk

re: #109 pat

Now this is revealing. A survey on the social make up of Diggbots. ... Note that 43% are atheist.

I find that hard to believe.

/sarcasm

...and 18% are troofers.

118 Thanos  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:33:09pm

OT:

Maryland may block Ahmadis from gatherings

WALKERSVILLE: The rural town of Walkersville is considering a zoning ordinance that could block plans for annual gatherings by thousands of members of the persecuted Ahmadiyya Muslim sect.

The proposal, aired at a town meeting on Wednesday, would prohibit places of worship, educational facilities and private clubs on land zoned for agricultural use.

Syed Ahmad, who is managing Ahmadiyya Muslim Community USA’s pending purchase of 224 acres (90.65 hectares) of Walkersville farmland, said on Friday the group will not fight to go where it is not wanted. ap

This is kind of a shame, the Ahmadi sect is persecuted by other muslims, and they are one of the groups that might help reform the religion[warning from Wiki:]

Distinct Ahmadi beliefs
Although the central values of Islam (prayer, charity, fasting, etc.) are shared by mainstream and Ahmadi Muslims, distinct Ahmadi beliefs include the following:

That the Qur'an has no contradictions (or abrogations), and has precedence over the Hadith or traditions; i.e., that one verse of the Qur'an does not cancel another and that no Hadith can contradict a verse of the Qur'an. Hadith that appear to contradict the Qu'ran are not accepted by Ahmadi Muslims.[28]
That Jesus, contrary to mainstream Islamic belief, was crucified and survived the four hours on the cross. He was later revived from a swoon in the tomb.[29] Ahmadis believe that Jesus died in Kashmir of old age whilst seeking the Lost Tribes of Israel.[30] Jesus' remains are believed to be entombed in Kashmir under the name Yuz Asaf. Ahmadis believe that Jesus foretold the coming of Muhammad after him, which Christians have misinterpreted.[31]
That Jihad can only be used to protect against extreme religious persecution, and that Muslims have used Jihad as a tool for political opportunism.[32]
That the "Messiah" and the "Imam Mahdi" are the same person, and that Islam will defeat the Anti-Christ or Dajjal in a period similar to the period of time it took for nascent Christianity to rise (300 years).
The two Ahmadiyya groups have varying beliefs regarding the finality of the Prophethood of Muhammad. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community believes that Muhammad brought prophethood to perfection and was the last law-bearing prophet. New prophets can come but they must be subordinate to Muhammad and cannot exceed him in excellence nor alter his teaching or bring any new law or religion.[33] The Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement believes that Muhammad is the last of the prophets and no prophet, new or old, can come after him.[34]

119 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:33:43pm

re: #116 Winslow Leach, the composer

I see your Simpsons, and raise you

120 meMarc  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:35:05pm
121 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:35:12pm
I must pursue my dream, of a full length pussy fur coat.

Right after they get their Mercedes Benz, a color TV, and a night on the town.

122 WimbledonWomble  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:35:24pm

re: #85 pat

re: #74 WimbledonWomble

The left has become the enemy of working people. it is now a pure Special Interest and racial play. The average worker misses the point and his union leaders are complicit.

We're between a rock and hard place. The Dems see the world as a post-nation global craptopia dominated by a third world love affair, and their play is to get enough poor people into the country voting for them that they gain power. For their own part, many Repubs, including W., want to see more cheap third-world labor here to subsidize business. So you see unholy alliances for immigration reform, like Ted Kennedy and W. coming together. Both parties are giving the finger to the average Joe or Jane, who contributes to society, works hard but is not poor or rich. They both hate the middle class, even though the prosperity of the US has always been driven by middle class consumerism and upward mobility.

What we need is an American Commonsense Party. Short of that, I am voting for Repubs who buck the trend or have some backbone and are not just shills for diversity/identity interest groups or free-ride big business.

FDR came on the scene when capitalism was about to collapse. He saved it. In the process, some excesses were created that were expanded later, especially with Johnson.

We need someone now who can save us from the nihilistic leftists on the one hand and the short-term profit business types on the other. We need commonsense capitalism, not open borders capitalism.

123 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:35:39pm

re: #84 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #43 stuck-in-ca
Thanks for the info...will pass it on.

Wonder how everything went for the LAPD at the "pro Elvira" march today in downtown Los Angeles. TFK thinks things are going to get pretty hot around here.


That's right. I had better turn on the news and see if I hear anything of consequence happening down there. No doubt there will be more bottle throwing. What's a "peaceful protest" without flinging a few bottles at the cops to keep things festive?

124 He's dead, Jim  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:36:19pm

re: #97 GreenDroll

Read the bio:

Starting his career as a protege of fabled Beatles publicist Derek Taylor – he has had a storied 36-year history as a journalist, columnist, writer, humorist, monologist, comedic performer, radio host, TV host, TV correspondent, Master of Ceremonies, producer (of movies, TV, radio, DVDs, stage shows and record albums), talent manager, record company owner, independent film distributor, film-festival curator, political commentator, pioneering organizer of benefit events, human rights activist - and as an award-winning publicity & marketing strategist. He is also a noted raconteur and Bon Vivant!

Not one bit of experience or education which might make him qualified to comment on issues of American government or constitutional law.

What a tool.

125 maddogg  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:36:23pm
Daily Kos: Love furry pussy, Hate cats


Gawd. This is why I call leftards idiots, because they are idiots.

126 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:36:34pm

re: #120 meMarc

Hey, JamesTKirk.

Do you know about this place?

Do you know about this?

127 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:36:57pm

re: #118 Thanos

Aren't they the ones that can drink alcohol, except wine, as Mo said?

128 NiceLass  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:37:57pm

re: #26 WimbledonWomble

It's sad to say, but lefties would need a major terrorist attack in their town every week to be jarred awake and maintain a sense of urgency. They don't understand the global threads of jihad, even though they pretend to be globally aware. They don't understand that non-physically violent (now) Islamists in the US, through organizations like CAIR and ISNA, and the MSA on university and college campuses, are slowly hammering away at the liberal values that allow leftists to say what they want and do what they want without being arrested and persecuted. They don't understand that the daily acts of terrorism in other countries are part of the whole, and that each successful attack elsewhere brings more attacks here closer to home, as the ties between those jihadis and our own Islamists in the West are so close and as the jihadis get pumped up and bolder with each success.

Leftists are hopeless. The best of them believe in some way that "All you need is love." The worst of them simply hate the West - and themselves - so much, that they would like to see it all destroyed. What do they need to wake up? Their own self-absorbed selves in immediate and constant danger? What they don't realize is that even if a bomb is not going off next to their home, they are in danger. What they don't realize is that their apologies and excuses and agitation helps to create the conditions that put their lives - or at least their liberal lifestyles - in danger in the long run. Poor misguided souls. They are the aiders and abetters and facilitators of the jihadis.

Well... the problem is not confined just to leftists. Here's a post from a LGF poster on another thread just today:

re: #320 Killian Bundy

Okay, I think I get it, even though Muslims, using the highest estimates, are less than 2% of the U.S. population, that means we're on the verge of being overrun and ruled by Sharia.

/RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, THE SKY IS FALLING!

129 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:38:00pm

Off to see how that Harry Potter is doing.

130 redshirt  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:38:46pm

How could anyone not be "Pro Elvira"?

131 meMarc  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:39:27pm

re: #126 JamesTKirk

That's great. Thanks. I'm going to send the link to a friend of mine right now.
You've seen Shatner's version of Rocketman, I'm sure. Hilarious.

132 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:39:52pm

re: #107 Lauraf
Given the timing, as pointed out by Mama Winger, peace be upon here and her new insulation, my her house face south, etc., I also question the timing of the comment attributed to the female minister.
However, your belief that one must be Catholic, Orthodox or anti-female sexist is ridiculous. do you honestly believe that just having ovaries prevents you from being an asshole? Take a look around you. there are plenty of females who are just as idiotic as any male.
Oh, guess, I'll see you at the Gaiea grove meeting, eh?

133 Thanos  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:40:33pm

re: #127 pat

re: #118 Thanos

Aren't they the ones that can drink alcohol, except wine, as Mo said?


That one I don't know about Pat, sorry -- but you might be correct.

134 EC Marm  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:40:51pm

re: #94 Killgore Trout

But figuring out the exact cost is getting complicated.

Assume at least 15 variables. I looked into building before. You've got land. Septic. Water. Building permits. Special assessments. Impact fees. Home itself. Upgrades. Driveway. Easements. I forget all of them. Not that it can't be done, just ask a ton of questions and take lots of notes. Build a spreadsheet model.

135 Geepers  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:40:58pm

Tribune's July Revenue Drops 5.9 Percent

Revenue from the publishing unit, consisting of Tribune's 11 daily newspapers (which includes the Chicago Tribune, the Los Angeles Times), slid 8.6 percent to $319 million as ad revenue sagged 10.3 percent to $247 million. Circulation revenues sank 5.4 percent.
136 WimbledonWomble  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:41:22pm

re: #128 NiceLass

re: #26 WimbledonWomble

Well... the problem is not confined just to leftists. Here's a post from a LGF poster on another thread just today:

re: #320 Killian Bundy

Okay, I think I get it, even though Muslims, using the highest estimates, are less than 2% of the U.S. population, that means we're on the verge of being overrun and ruled by Sharia.

/RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, THE SKY IS FALLING!

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity."

[Link: www.thebeckoning.com...]

137 Thanos  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:41:23pm

Islamabad Police Blotter (warning: goat pined for...):

A man was stabbed to death on the roof of his house and a woman committed self-immolation after a dispute with her husband on Thursday. Ishfaq Younus, 24, a resident of 66 quarters, Sector G-7/2, was sleeping on the roof of his house when an unidentified person attacked him with a knife and escaped. Hearing Younus’ screams, his parents rushed to his help and found him excessively bleeding. He was taken to the hospital where doctors pronounced him dead. The Aabpara police have registered a case and started investigation.

Sajida Bibi, 26, a housewife committed self-immolation after a bust-up with her husband in the precincts of Bhara Kahu Police Station. The deceased was a mother of five. Her husband, Hayat Khan, escaped from the scene soon after the incident. Neighbours reported the incident to police who reached the crime scene and seized the body. Police are searching for Hayat.

An accused kept at Aabpara police station tried to commit suicide by cutting the veins of his hands with a piece of broken glass. The incident took place in the absence of the human rights officer (HRO) whose is responsible for taking care of the accused in police custody.

Israr Ahmed committed suicide by hanging himself from a tree in Ghagree village. Quoting Israr’s brother, police said the deceased was mentally unstable and had gone to the nearby fields to shepherd his goats. A local found his body hanging from a tree and informed the family of the deceased.

In another incident, the police have so far failed to arrest two constables, Munir and Tariq, for allegedly selling the kidney of a jobless person, Usman Rana, 24, for Rs 1 million and then escaping with the money. However, police have arrested Dr Zulfiqar, his personal assistant and an assistant sub inspector. Usman had come to Islamabad from Lahore in February in search of a job. Constable Tariq lured him to sell one of his kidneys for Rs 1 million. He was reportedly operated upon in a private hospital in Rawalpindi, and his kidney was grafted into the body of a British national. Usman reported the matter to the police when he did not receive the money. The official assured Usman that he would get the money soon after the operation.

A man died and 10 people were injured when a bus of Pakistan Air Force fell off a bridge after hitting a car at Shaheen Chowk. Shamraiz, 42, was going home on a bicycle when a speeding car hit him at Golra Morr. Shamraiz died on the spot.

138 Pope Insouciance IV  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:41:41pm

There's a pro-Elvira rally?
Count me in!

139 Daryl Herbert  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:41:58pm

I would like to see Greg Gutfield take control of HuffPo by forging Ariana's signature to steal the domain name. It would be totally justified, because, like, I don't like what she's doing with the site.

140 COConservative  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:42:26pm

re: #75 ornery elephant

General Pace retires in September. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs usually serves for a specific period (I don't remember the exact tenure). Bush did not re-nominate Pace for the Chairmanship.

141 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:42:40pm

re: #135 Geepers

Tribune's July Revenue Drops 5.9 Percent

Revenue from the publishing unit, consisting of Tribune's 11 daily newspapers (which includes the Chicago Tribune, the Los Angeles Times), slid 8.6 percent to $319 million as ad revenue sagged 10.3 percent to $247 million. Circulation revenues sank 5.4 percent.

Their membership has been dropping ever since they were named as unindicted co-conspirators in that terrorism trial. (What? The MSM wasn't named? Well, it should have been...)

142 HeatherRadish  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:42:50pm

*blink* I thought leftists hated the military.

I admire their chutzpah, though. "Hey, uneducated baby-killer I spit on! I need a favor!"

143 redshirt  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:43:07pm

re: #138 Pope Insouciance IV

Beat ya to the punch!

144 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:44:25pm
145 Lee  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:44:27pm

re: #5 Charles

Daily Kos: Love furry pussy, Hate cats

See my vest, see my vest,
Made from real gorilla chest,
Feel this sweater, there's no better,
Than authentic Irish setter.

See this hat, 'twas my cat,
My evening wear - vampire bat,
These white slippers are albino
African endangered rhino.

Grizzly bear underwear,
Turtles' necks, I've got my share,
Beret of poodle, on my noodle
It shall rest,

Try my red robin suit,
It comes one breast or two,
See my vest, see my vest,
See my vest!

Like my loafers? Former gophers -
It was that or skin my chauffeurs,
But a greyhound fur tuxedo
Would be best,

So let's prepare these dogs --
(Mrs. Potts:) Kill two for matching clogs --
See my vest, see my vest,
Oh please, won't you see my vest!

/mr. burns

146 markie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:44:41pm

re: #124 He's dead, Jim

Raconteur and Bon Vivant? Isn't that French for loudmouth narcissistic @$$h*le?

147 goodbye_natalie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:44:42pm

re: #124 He's dead, Jim

Libs don't believe prerequisites are necessary to become an expert. Everything is based on their insight and life experience. Look at the Hollywood crowd who used to belittle Bush as stupid, never mind Bush was smart enough to obtain a master's degree from perhaps America's foremost university.

Then somebody got wise and started a little research into Hollywood crowd's vast array of "educational acumen." When it became clear few even had a college degree, most were flunkies and many hadn't even graduated from high school, not a peep of apology was offered.

But it did shut their collective mouth for a time.

148 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:44:58pm

re: #143 redshirt

re: #138 Pope Insouciance IV

Beat ya to the punch!

I think you're both boobs. Why is it impossible to have a discussion about Elvira without a couple of big boobs making an appearance?

149 meMarc  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:45:04pm

re: #126 JamesTKirk

Great. That Rocketman video is there.

150 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:46:49pm

re: #149 meMarc

re: #126 JamesTKirk

Great. That Rocketman video is there.

What about Lucy ... in the ... Sky ... with ... DIAMONDS!

151 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:47:20pm

Elvira did a great job of keeping her nipples under-exposed. A real art considering her movements were watched very closely.

152 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:47:34pm

re: #130 redshirt

How could anyone not be "Pro Elvira"?

Root for the young Miss Shadow! She's competing!

153 jcm  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:48:36pm

Late to the thread...

My first thought is, maybe sedition laws were a good thing.

Then the impulse passes and realize we have to defeat this enemy within before we can defeat the enemy in the field.

154 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:48:37pm

re: #54 mama winger

What the HECK ?!?


sorry? Regarding me or the Pastor?

155 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:49:01pm

re: #103 Thanos

They are supposedly very energy efficient.


All major rooms have a garden view to integrate nature with living. In addition, the home uses off-site construction, low-energy lighting design, eco-friendly materials, and sustainable design layout. All of these elements combine to help increase the overall efficiency of the home.

re: #134 EC Marm

Yeah, it's going to get complicated and is going to push my budget. I think I'm going to talk to the builders and see how firm of an estimate they can give me with all costs included.

156 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:49:13pm
157 redshirt  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:50:33pm

re: #148 JamesTKirk

I am taking the high road on that comment.
BTW, how many lizards have trek nics?

158 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:51:12pm

#124 He's dead, Jim

#130 redshirt

Has my whole crew followed me here?

159 WimbledonWomble  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:51:32pm

The is the only real Elvira:

[Link: www.elvira.com...]

The other one is an imposter!

160 Savet  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:52:08pm

I think replacing GWB with Chenney is a good idea.

/and I hope he brings his shotgun with him.

161 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:52:11pm

#157 & #158 - I see we had the same thought at the same time.

162 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:52:29pm

re: #80 galloping granny

Were there actually any FEMALE Methodist pastors during the Vietnam era? I certainly never heard of any. Those were still the days when women had to hand over their husband's name, employer and so forth to get a job at all. When you lost your credit the day you got married. When you could not buy birth control in many states unless you were married. When women were not accepted at the CIA (as in Culinary Institute) - or Harvard.

Sounds like an absolute crock to me.


Sorry to burst the bubble. No crock.

163 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:52:30pm
164 markie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:52:43pm

re: #151 pat

She's cuter in person. [Link: www.elvira.com...]

165 Ginn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:52:54pm

re: #22 Sharmuta

re: #5 Charles

They need Pussy Control.

LOL!

166 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:52:55pm

re: #158 JamesTKirk

Didn't leonard nimoy put out an album or two as well?

167 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:52:59pm

re: #151 pat

Elvira did a great job of keeping her nipples under-exposed. A real art considering her movements were watched very closely.

What? Elvira was exposing her nipples in the church? I KNEW there must be something unholy going on between that illegal twit and that nasty churchman.

168 redshirt  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:53:29pm

re: #158 JamesTKirk

There is also a "GowronX"
BTW, I think I was here b4 you.
Redshirts always go first on the dangerous missions!

169 ornery elephant  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:54:16pm

re: #140 COConservative

Thanks COConservative! Appreciate the info.

170 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:54:19pm

Re #107

Tacit consentire?
Charles, Troll alert.
clean up on aisle 107.

171 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:54:22pm

re: #166 baconeatingkaffir

re: #158 JamesTKirk

Didn't leonard nimoy put out an album or two as well?

172 Ginn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:54:37pm

re: #90 Racer X

re: #87 JamesTKirk

re: #82 Racer X

Funny to see all the knuckleheads over at kos who still have the "Impeach Bush" tag on their comments. Go ahead! Impeach Bush! Do it!Cheney would make a much better president.

Morons.

You don't think they want to stop with Bush, do you? Not when Nancy Pelosi is a heartbeat (and a pacemaker) away from the Oval Office!

OK, it works like this:

Impeach Bush - Cheney becomes pres and appoints Rove as VP.

Impeach Cheney and guess what? Rove is President!


Rove you magnificent bastard!

Yep!

173 WimbledonWomble  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:55:35pm

re: #166 baconeatingkaffir

re: #158 JamesTKirk

Didn't leonard nimoy put out an album or two as well?

Yep.

[Link: www.geocities.com...]

He also dabbles in photography and writes poetry.

[Link: www.thehypertexts.com...]

174 cbinflux  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:56:41pm

Spanish PM calls for united front against ETA

However, this Socialist cannot understand the need for a unified front against Muslims in full caliphate mode.

175 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:56:55pm

now there’s an idiot calling for Peter Pace to stage a military coup.

Maybe the idiot was calling for a military soup, no doubt chicken noodle.

176 WimbledonWomble  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:57:12pm

re: #171 JamesTKirk

re: #166 baconeatingkaffir

re: #158 JamesTKirk

Didn't leonard nimoy put out an album or two as well?

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

There's nothing like Kirk and Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, though.

177 easy  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:57:19pm
The Huffington Post continues to produce the craziest of left-wing writing; now there’s an idiot calling for Peter Pace to stage a military coup.


Before or after Hillary is elected (I could beat Hillary).

178 Savet  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:57:24pm

re: #80 galloping granny

re: #54 mama winger

re: #45 Outrider

The culmination for me came when the Methodist pastor in our little church got up in the pulpit one Sunday and started off by condemning my father, in absentia as he was in Nam, for being in Vietnam. She then went on to state the USA needed to be burned to the ground and started afresh.

What the HECK ?!?

Were there actually any FEMALE Methodist pastors during the Vietnam era? I certainly never heard of any. Those were still the days when women had to hand over their husband's name, employer and so forth to get a job at all. When you lost your credit the day you got married. When you could not buy birth control in many states unless you were married. When women were not accepted at the CIA (as in Culinary Institute) - or Harvard.

Sounds like an absolute crock to me.


Sounds like the good 'ole days to me.

179 markie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 4:58:34pm

re: #166 baconeatingkaffir

Found it in a used record store. Horrible.

180 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:00:40pm

re: #178 Savet

re: #80 galloping granny

re: #54 mama winger

re: #45 Outrider

The culmination for me came when the Methodist pastor in our little church got up in the pulpit one Sunday and started off by condemning my father, in absentia as he was in Nam, for being in Vietnam. She then went on to state the USA needed to be burned to the ground and started afresh.

What the HECK ?!?

Were there actually any FEMALE Methodist pastors during the Vietnam era? I certainly never heard of any. Those were still the days when women had to hand over their husband's name, employer and so forth to get a job at all. When you lost your credit the day you got married. When you could not buy birth control in many states unless you were married. When women were not accepted at the CIA (as in Culinary Institute) - or Harvard.
Sounds like an absolute crock to me.
Sounds like the good 'ole days to me.

The fact it was a female pastor is irrelevant. It was mentioned only to describe the pastor as I was relating the story. The point I was (apparently poorly) attempting to make is the statements she had made from the pulpit. The gender is irrelevant.

181 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:00:53pm
182 cbinflux  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:01:15pm

Islamic Spain: history's refrain
CSM: [Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Dark parallels with today

This fall directly links to events today and raises many of the same stakes. Though few Americans note it, one of Osama bin Laden's justifications for the 9/11 attacks was to avenge the "tragedy" of Islamic Spain.

So far, the post-9/11 world and the policies it has spawned seem to be heading in the same dangerous direction as witnessed before. The religious intolerance that engulfed and overwhelmed medieval Spain threatens the increasingly beleaguered pluralism of our own time.

At its best, the history of Islamic Spain is a model for interfaith cooperation that inspires those who seek an easier relationship among the three Abrahamic faiths. At its worst, it's a warning of what can occur when political and religious leaders divide the world. It reminds us what really happens when civilizations clash.

183 easy  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:01:56pm

re: #5 Charles

Daily Kos: Love furry pussy, Hate cats


Pussyplummer (ex, I hope, LGF commenter)?

184 cbinflux  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:02:00pm

re: #180 Outrider
Not to God.

185 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:02:31pm

re: #165 Ginn

I never thought I'd get an opening to link that song- but that's twice now in the last week.

186 HDrepub  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:02:31pm

re: #174 cbinflux

Spanish PM calls for united front against ETA

However, this Socialist cannot understand the need for a unified front against Muslims in full caliphate mode.

Yes, the Spanish PM can kiss the deepest darkest part of my a$$ also.

187 EC Marm  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:03:11pm

re: #155 Killgore Trout One other variable to consider, time. I finally had my new neighbors move in, THREE years after they settled on the land. This town put them through the ringer. I'm sure it's not the same everywhere, but something to watch out for.

188 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:03:19pm

re: #172 Ginn

re: #90 Racer X


re: #87 JamesTKirk

re: #82 Racer X

Funny to see all the knuckleheads over at kos who still have the "Impeach Bush" tag on their comments. Go ahead! Impeach Bush! Do it!Cheney would make a much better president.

Morons.


You don't think they want to stop with Bush, do you? Not when Nancy Pelosi is a heartbeat (and a pacemaker) away from the Oval Office!

OK, it works like this:

Impeach Bush - Cheney becomes pres and appoints Rove as VP.

Impeach Cheney and guess what? Rove is President!


Rove you magnificent bastard!


Yep!

Once again, it's not that easy.

US Constitution, Amendment XXV, Section 2: Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Congress can hold up the process by refusing to confirm anyone and everyone Cheney nominates. And if both Bush and Cheney are removed, the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 specifies the order of succession: "If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President."

189 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:04:49pm

re: #184 cbinflux

re: #180 Outrider
Not to God.


Point. Irrelevant only to my post.

190 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:05:37pm

re: #84 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #43 stuck-in-ca
Thanks for the info...will pass it on.

Wonder how everything went for the LAPD at the "pro Elvira" march today in downtown Los Angeles. TFK thinks things are going to get pretty hot around here.

I'm going to guess and say that's what was probably going on in DT Oakland @ City Hall this morning.

Traffic was snarled for several blocks in all directions.

191 goodbye_natalie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:05:49pm
192 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:06:12pm

Hmmm. I hope the Treasury Department pays the opinionated fellow a visit. Somebody's been hittin' the koolaid too hard.

I am shore you have held a cat or two, I would Bet it is as soft and smooth as the goat skin God ordered too cover the Ark.

He's not too strong on his biblical knowledge either: "Make yourself an ark of gopherwood; make rooms in the ark, and cover it inside and out with pitch." Genesis 6:14 (NKJV)

The Septuagint (Greek) says "asphalto", the Torah (Hebrew) has "kaphar" (kphr).

193 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:06:54pm

re: #187 EC Marm

In their literature they claim 6-10 months. Even that would be difficult estimate would be difficult for me. The whole thing looks pretty iffy.

194 WimbledonWomble  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:07:20pm

What we all need:

195 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:08:27pm

re: #188 JamesTKirk

I'm saddened that it's not just the Huffers who don't bother to read the Constitution before commenting on it.

I know what I'm talking about because I, James Tiberius Kirk, took a Constitution class. *groan*

196 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:08:51pm

re: #192 David IV of Georgia
Georgia? Savannah here. Howdy cuz.

197 jcr  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:09:09pm

There's a word for what this idiot is calling for, and that word is "mutiny".

-jcr

198 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:09:31pm

re: #107 Lauraf

re: #58 j-damn

The culmination for me came when the Methodist pastor in our little church got up in the pulpit one Sunday and started off by condemning my father, in absentia as he was in Nam, for being in Vietnam. She

Okay, well there was your first problem, right there...
Oh really? You must be Catholic? Or Orthodox? Or just non-denominational sexist?

How many female pastors did the various Methodist churches have during the Viet Nam war? My guess is less than one.

199 Racer X  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:09:35pm

OT (again)

The economy is now doing so well that a McDonald's owner in Montana cannot fill an open position. He is going to have to outsource the drive-thru window to a telemarketing firm in Texas.

The U.S. Department of Labor reports the mountain West region - covering eight states along the Rocky Mountains - has the lowest overall unemployment rate in the nation. The region hit an all-time low of 3.4 percent in May.

The effects are everywhere. Logging equipment in Idaho sits idle as companies have a tough time finding workers. A shortage of lifeguards has forced Helena to shorten hours at children-only pools. A local paper in Jackson, Wyo., has page after page of help wanted ads.

We need a democrat president to screw up the economy again so we get good quality workers at McDonald's!

Or better yet - swing open the border doors!

200 rdejana  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:09:46pm

I don't care if you are on the left or the right; calling for the military to overthrow our government is a dangerous path that cannot end well.

201 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:09:52pm

re: #195 JamesTKirk
What else did you take up besides time and space? Joking, only joking.

202 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:10:25pm
203 Ginn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:11:40pm

re: #185 Sharmuta

re: #165 Ginn

I never thought I'd get an opening to link that song- but that's twice now in the last week.

It must be [deleted] week!

204 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:12:33pm

re: #201 grumpy old codger

re: #195 JamesTKirk
What else did you take up besides time and space? Joking, only joking.

I took up more than my share of time; I had several conversations with the nice men from Temporal Investigations.

205 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:12:36pm

re: #197 jcr

There's a word for what this idiot is calling for, and that word is "mutiny".

-jcr

At least a mutiny would halt the erosion of freedoms that the evil Bush is stealing from us day by day.

206 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:12:51pm

re: #198 David IV of Georgia

How many female pastors did the various Methodist churches have during the Viet Nam war? My guess is less than one.


I know there had to have been at least one. Ours. I don't find this unusual.

207 DesertSage  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:12:57pm

All this talk about impeaching Bush is just humorous.

Go ahead Lefties, impeach Bush. Waste time and taxpayers money impeaching the president when we're in the middle of a war. Nothing would unite a fractured conservative base more then a stupid impeachment...all but insuring a GOP victory next year.

So go ahead, impeach if you want...it would be the dumbest thing the Democrats ever did.

But then again...nobody ever accused them of being very bright

208 Spiny Norman  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:13:26pm

re: #135 Geepers

Tribune's July Revenue Drops 5.9 Percent

Revenue from the publishing unit, consisting of Tribune's 11 daily newspapers (which includes the Chicago Tribune, the Los Angeles Times), slid 8.6 percent to $319 million as ad revenue sagged 10.3 percent to $247 million. Circulation revenues sank 5.4 percent.

Blatantly shilling for the Democratic Party isn't paying off the way they assumed it would, eh?

209 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:13:38pm

re: #191 goodbye_natalie

My father said he knew Nimoy from back in the days he lived in dorchester, MA. dad said he was an asshole.

210 redshirt  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:15:13pm

re: #195 JamesTKirk

Heh, that reminds me,I just saw "The Omega Glory" remastered.
Shatner shreds the preamble!

211 goodbye_natalie  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:15:25pm

re: #209 grumpy old codger

LOL. I've heard that there isn't a bigger asshole in Hollywood than William Shatner...

No wonder they had to go where no man has gone before...

212 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:16:39pm

re: #136 WimbledonWomble

re: #128 NiceLass


re: #26 WimbledonWomble

Well... the problem is not confined just to leftists. Here's a post from a LGF poster on another thread just today:

re: #320 Killian Bundy


Okay, I think I get it, even though Muslims, using the highest estimates, are less than 2% of the U.S. population, that means we're on the verge of being overrun and ruled by Sharia.

/RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, THE SKY IS FALLING!


"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity."

[Link: www.thebeckoning.com...]


This Yeats' poem has been on my mind for sometime now. In fact, I began thinking about it again as I started this thread. Then lo and behold!

As for K. Bundy...I've been advised he/she is all about the sarc tag. So read accordingly.

213 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:17:03pm

re: #211 goodbye_natalie

re: #209 grumpy old codger

LOL. I've heard that there isn't a bigger asshole in Hollywood than William Shatner...

No wonder they had to go where no man has gone before...

And no wonder George Takei was following around behind them.

214 Pal2Pal  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:17:52pm

Re: #80

I thought the same thing about a female Methodist pastor. On a similar note, however, my 7 year old was told by his 2nd grade teacher after Kerry's Winter Soldier testimony, that "God doesn't listen to your prayers for baby killers." This was in response to the question put to the class on what they did before going to bed at night and my son said he "prayed for his Dad to be safe," because his Dad was on his 3rd tour in Vietnam at the time.

215 redshirt  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:18:28pm

OK, for all the TRUE Trek geeks, this!

216 mefolkes  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:18:31pm

re: #80 Galloping Granny

Your grasp of history is slipping. The Methodists in America began ordaining women in 1956. That tidbit is courtesy of my seminary professor cousin. The picture you draw of the status of women is perhaps too broad for the country as a whole. Would you consider apologizing to Outrider for your not-very-well-masked calling him a liar?

217 Racer X  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:18:33pm

re: #213 JamesTKirk

And no wonder George Takei was following around behind them.

Now that there is funny!

218 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:18:47pm

re: #214 Pal2Pal

Re: #80

I thought the same thing about a female Methodist pastor. On a similar note, however, my 7 year old was told by his 2nd grade teacher after Kerry's Winter Soldier testimony, that "God doesn't listen to your prayers for baby killers." This was in response to the question put to the class on what they did before going to bed at night and my son said he "prayed for his Dad to be safe," because his Dad was on his 3rd tour in Vietnam at the time.

So, there was a methodist to her madness?

219 Thanos  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:18:59pm

re: #206 Outrider

re: #198 David IV of Georgia


How many female pastors did the various Methodist churches have during the Viet Nam war? My guess is less than one.

I know there had to have been at least one. Ours. I don't find this unusual.

Ok folks settle down- what we have here is a simple mistake, let's not blow it out of proportion.

I think futher upthread perhaps Mama Winger got Presbyterians mixed up with Methodists, remembering this story, which was pretty big news in '06.

220 Spiny Norman  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:19:09pm

re: #207 DesertSage

Go ahead Lefties, impeach Bush. Waste time and taxpayers money impeaching the president when we're in the middle of a war. Nothing would unite a fractured conservative base more then a stupid impeachment...all but insuring a GOP victory next year.

So go ahead, impeach if you want...it would be the dumbest thing the Democrats ever did.

I'll bet internal DNC opinion polling had reached that same conclusion, which is why Nancy and Harry are now enduring the shrieking and sniping from the KosKidz wing of the Party. How long before they cave?

221 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:19:29pm

re: #190 Bobibutu
Could be what was going on. I heard there is suppossed to be a nation-wide boycott on Sept. 16th or thereabouts.

Sorry if I'm not answering posts...trying to do a million things at once and someone just called to say they're stopping by.

222 Buckeye Abroad  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:20:30pm

OT: Family loses 2nd son in Iraq

Nathan Hubbard, who joined the U.S. Army after his brother Jared [USMC] died in Iraq three years ago, was killed Wednesday in the crash of a U.S. Blackhawk helicopter in Iraq.

Not detracting the loss of the other 13 families, and I know this isn't the only family to lose two sons, but keep the Hubbard family in your prayers this weekend.

223 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:20:54pm
224 chicagodudewhotrades  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:20:54pm

This has been a very entertaining hour. First i read the Huffpo piece calling for Gen. Pace to arrest President Bush. Then I read the thing Charles posted about the Kos kid who wants a cat fur coat. I concur with Mama Winger "what the hell was that"? I like cats, so I am beyond speechless. Couldn't a post like that be forwarded to a police department for investigation into possible animal cruelty charges?


I actually read some of the Hufpo comments. One decent comment mentioned a old paper published by Parameters, which is the quarterly magazine of the Army War College. It is called "Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012. It was good when i first read it in 1992, and is still worth reading. I don't know how to do links, but go to
[Link: www.carlisle.army.mil...]

and check it out.

225 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:21:28pm

re: #218 JamesTKirk

So, there was a methodist to her madness?


Cute. ;-)>

226 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:21:49pm

re: #196 Outrider

Thanks, but the name is historical from the other Georgia. I'm from the Bonnie Blue Republic of Texas.

227 Caliredst8r  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:23:50pm

I have more than a few acquaintances in the military; friends and relatives. After hearing from them about the mood of a vast majority of the military towards the MSM, HuffPo types, etc., I don't think I would be wishing too much for a military coup about now, or any kind of move by the military against our civilian leaders. I doubt it would have the results that they, HuffPo, are counting on.

228 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:24:43pm
229 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:24:45pm

re: #226 David IV of Georgia

Thanks, but the name is historical from the other Georgia. I'm from the Bonnie Blue Republic of Texas


Ah. OK. Texas is great also. I was stationed there for five years in the 80s and loved it.

230 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:25:01pm

re: #206 Outrider

re: #198 David IV of Georgia

How many female pastors did the various Methodist churches have during the Viet Nam war? My guess is less than one.

I know there had to have been at least one. Ours. I don't find this unusual.

It is possible. I don't know everything (the rumors are wrong). Please don't be offended-but it would be unusual in the early '70's.

231 squarepeg  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:25:25pm

re: #108 Sharmuta

re: #47 squarepeg

You know- there is an LGF Dictionary.

Thanks for calling that to my attention. After a brief study of it, I'm afraid I must reject "moby" as the answer to my question above. It turns out a moby is strictly a lefty troll on a righty site. Isn't there a word that's not ideology-specific? A word that would apply regardless of who's trolling whom?

If not, there should be.

And does anyone know of a single English word (not blogosphere-related) that means "someone who thinks like you." It would be a co-something I imagine. The following words are close but not it:

compadre
confrere
coreligionist
colleague
coeval
contemporary
cohort

232 pal2pal  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:25:36pm

There is a big difference between impeachment and calling for the armed overthrow of the U.S. government.

233 Bill Amos  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:26:46pm
5 Charles 8/25/2007 3:48:00 pm reply quote report

Daily Kos: Love furry pussy, Hate cats

When did Rosie O Donnell become a member of Kos ?

234 JamesTKirk  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:27:09pm

*gone*

235 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:27:13pm
236 Q-Burn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:28:16pm

re: #213 JamesTKirk

re: #211 goodbye_natalie

re: #209 grumpy old codger

LOL. I've heard that there isn't a bigger asshole in Hollywood than William Shatner...

No wonder they had to go where no man has gone before...

And no wonder George Takei was following around behind them.

A year or two ago I was flipping channels and stumbled on a William Shatner roast. George was saying "if my partner sucked as much as your acting I'd be in heaven" or words to that effect...

237 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:28:34pm
238 swamprat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:28:51pm

re: #231 squarepeg
simpatico?(sp) sympatico?

239 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:30:02pm

Just as a quick reference to show I am not as some posters believe, a liar or confused I offer this reference:

"...In 1910, she said, 685 women were identified by the U.S. Census as clergy. The number climbed to 1,787 in 1920 and 6,824 by 1950. In 1994, there were more than 3,000 clergywomen in the United Methodist Church, 1,843 in the United Churches of Christ and 1,574 in the Assemblies of God..."


[Link: www.wfn.org...]

240 squarepeg  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:30:57pm

re: #238 swamprat

I tried that, but all dictionaries are calling it an adjective. I just may have to invent something.

241 squarepeg  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:31:30pm

And did I forget to say, I AM THE QUEEN OF THE DEAD.

242 twh  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:32:57pm

re: #49 JamesTKirk

I just posted a link in a dead thread that seems to fit in here.

http://www.aim.org/aim_column/4897_0_3_0_C/
interesting read.

243 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:35:53pm

re: #128 NiceLass

Starting up again, I see.

/You go girl!

244 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:38:40pm

re: #239 Outrider

I grew up in the UMC Texas Conference. I knew of no Texas women Methodist (UMC) pastors in the early 1970's. It would have been very unlikely. I wrongly extrapolated from my experience. I believe they (UMC-Texas Conference) have a female bishop now. In any case, the gender was irrelevant to the point. Forgive any offense I have caused.

245 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:38:53pm

re: #217 Racer X I questioned his timing and I was wrong. The timing issue has nothing to do with ovaries protecting you from being an asshole, nor his belief that questioning him marked me as a Catholic, an Orthodox or a sexist. He had his facts right but appears to be rather narrow in his opinions.

246 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:41:30pm

re: #235 ploome hineni
Ah, you're killing me. i doubt if he'd remember my dad, dad's dead (so I can't quesrion him), and you still appear to be an asshole.

247 Judith  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:43:43pm

re: #8 song_and_dance_man

This character obviously is a product of the whole language teaching method who never got past grade three.

"I am shore you have..." Sheesh.

248 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:43:58pm
249 HDrepub  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:46:14pm

The comment by the Methodist lady preacher is nothing new. There was a Church of Christ preacher, in the county where I grew up, who said anyone who had fought in WW2 was a bloody murderer. My grandfather, who lost a son in WW2, was going to give this fellow a good country ass whuppin' for a going away present but the neighbors talked him out of it. They did run him out of town however.

I do believe this sort of thing became a lot more prevalent during the Nam years however.

250 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:47:25pm

re: #248 ploome hineni

I respect my wife. i have little respect for you. In the posts you've done in the past, I've sensed a lot of anti-Catholicism. Maybe you should read up on Thoreau.

251 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:48:57pm

re: #248 ploome hineni
C'mon, bitch! bring it on.

252 yah  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:50:26pm

re: #231 squarepeg

How about like minded? But that is two words.

253 pal2pal  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:51:37pm

#228 ploome hineni :

What did I do? Well, I came very close to getting arrested. Had they let me at this teacher, I would have throttled her. I was livid. But, unfortunately, in the early '70s, being an active duty military family was not a very pleasant thing to be. And we lived in a military town. I did hear from another parent that the school had quietly decided not to renew this teacher's contract for the following year.

I wish sometimes that when my kids were young, I had had the self-confidence that maturity brings. But back then, it was pretty much drilled into us not to make waves or do anything that would bring notoriety to our military spouses or reflect negatively on the military in any way. And the Navy still had the attitude about families that we knew they were in the military when we married them, so shut up and deal with it. Thank God there is a very different mindset today. All I know is from that day forward, my hatred of all things John "Koward" Kerry was born and although I buried it for 30+ years, it came front and center that fateful night he stood in front of the camera and "reported for duty." I threw up and then immediately went online and made a major donation to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and my son said, see God does listen, He just works on his own schedule.

254 mondoreb  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:51:48pm

re: #2 JWM

from the huffglue article:

Great name!
Is it original?

255 pink freud  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:54:46pm

re: #231 squarepeg

compatriot? confederate?

256 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:56:44pm

re: #244 David IV of Georgia

re: #239 Outrider
I grew up in the UMC Texas Conference. I knew of no Texas women Methodist (UMC) pastors in the early 1970's. It would have been very unlikely. I wrongly extrapolated from my experience. I believe they (UMC-Texas Conference) have a female bishop now. In any case, the gender was irrelevant to the point. Forgive any offense I have caused.


I am not familiar with the frocking (?) of Methodist Pastors. Dad had dropped us off in Massachusetts while he went to Nam. This incident occured in that state and this chapel was right across the street from us.
You caused no offense and I took none. But surely that could not have been a guy in drag up in the pulpit, it was a female. Do they have associate pastors or lay pastors? Perhaps while waiting for a permanant preacher? I attended services for just a few months.

257 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:57:10pm

re: #243 Sharmuta

Chicken Littles bore the [expletive deleted] out of me. They see jihadis under their beds and they have the fear. Nevermind the reality of what actually is, they cling to the statistically insignificant probability of what possibly might be in an alternate universe.

/*yawn*

258 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:57:50pm

re: #231 squarepeg

comrade? Or is that too progressive?

259 mondoreb  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:57:51pm

re: #48 Ginn

"When I read the letter from Martin Lewis I just had to do it," General Pace declared.

I just had to.

260 OLDPUPPYMAX  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:58:17pm

And this nutbar figures a military coup would act to support the LSD flashbacks of the HuffPo left?

261 mondoreb  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 5:59:49pm

re: #55 Ginn

Thank God, the author is a member of the 'responsible Left'.

In a coup, those valiant defenders of our military, the KOSkids and GlueHuffersPost, would be the first ones shot.

They seem to be unable to look into the future...

Or the past.
"I spew, therefore am."

262 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:02:58pm

re: #256 Outrider

The UMC has lay pastors, and perhaps some other "pastors". If memory serves, lay pastors could not perform some sacraments and usually led smaller churches that could not afford to have an ordained Elder (=bona fide pastor). My father is a UMC Elder. I took a similar yet different path.

263 southernborn  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:04:18pm

re: #5 Charles
That's the kind of post those stone stupid morons ought to stick with

264 Tosprops  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:07:52pm

What do you know? Moonbats have finally found a reason to support the military.

265 joncelli  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:08:22pm

re: #96 JamesTKirk

Of course he does. That's what Jerry Ford did when Nixon resigned: he nominated Nelson Rockefeller, who was confirmed by Congress and became VP. See the 25th Amendment.

266 Shr_Nfr  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:12:38pm

Last time I read the Constitution of the US, that was defined as treason. I hope that the appropriate authorities act on it.

267 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:14:15pm

Troll alert!
Clean up on aisle 248!

268 HDrepub  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:16:24pm

re: #265 joncelli

re: #96 JamesTKirk


Of course he does. That's what Jerry Ford did when Nixon resigned: he nominated Nelson Rockefeller, who was confirmed by Congress and became VP. See the 25th Amendment.

Nixon appointed Gerald Ford after Agnew resigned, and Congress confirmed him, and then Ford did the same for Rockefeller when Nixon resigned,

269 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:17:53pm

I'm sure that the Secret Service won't take this kindly. I'm sure that despite the qualifying statements (To be crystal clear - I am NOT advocating or inciting you to undertake any illegal act, insurrection, mutiny, putsch or military coup) that some law could be applied. What a nut. If found guilty, because he is still presumed innocent, I'll donate the bullets to the US Dept. of Justice.

270 pat  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:18:26pm

re: #256 Outrider

Methodists have had women ministers since 1880. They even had a Womens Missionary Seminary.

271 JeffinSac  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:19:33pm

Guy is a complete idiot. After he calls for someone in the military to remove power from a civilian official granted to him under the constitution he says time and again.

"I expressly say that the General must NOT undertake any mutinous or seditious act"

This guy needs to look up the terms mutinous and sedition because that is exactly what he is calling for.

272 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:20:28pm

re: #257 Killian Bundy

It's more the hollaback girl thing that's getting to me. It's really easy to judge someone when you make assumptions about them.

273 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:21:46pm

re: #271 JeffinSac
Notice how caefully he danced around the actual calling for such actions.

274 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:22:26pm

re: #267 grumpy old codger

Troll alert!
Clean up on aisle 248!

Um, you might want to click ploome's football before calling her a troll.

/just sayin'

275 mondoreb  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:24:29pm

re: #135 Geepers

Revenue from the publishing unit, consisting of Tribune's 11 daily newspapers (which includes the Chicago Tribune, the Los Angeles Times), slid 8.6 percent to $319 million as ad revenue sagged 10.3 percent to $247 million. Circulation revenues sank 5.4 percent.

The MSM is a slowly-rotting corpse.

276 Outrider  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:25:13pm

re: #270 pat

re: #256 Outrider

Methodists have had women ministers since 1880. They even had a Womens Missionary Seminary.


I know we had one. (Although it may be possible she was a lay preacher.) But I sure caught hell upthread over stating so.

277 HDrepub  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:26:31pm

All joking aside, during the Nam years there was a fellow in my community who used to sit around the country store and badmouth Johnson. The FBI did come around and check him out to see if he was serious about some of the things he thought should be done to LBJ.
I know this because my dad was working part time in law enforcement at that time, and was in the local sheriff's office quite a bit. In those days the FBI would come to the local gendarmes' offices first and ask questions.

278 mondoreb  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:32:03pm

re: #183 easy


re: #5 Charles
Daily Kos: Love furry pussy, Hate cats
Pussyplummer (ex, I hope, LGF commenter)?

The Lords of Acid have always had the last word on this:

279 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:33:33pm

re: #274 Killian Bundy
Time on deck doesn't guarantee anything.

280 NiceLass  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:37:06pm

re: #257 Killian Bundy

re: #243 Sharmuta

Chicken Littles bore the [expletive deleted] out of me. They see jihadis under their beds and they have the fear. Nevermind the reality of what actually is, they cling to the statistically insignificant probability of what possibly might be in an alternate universe.

/*yawn*

Well fiddle dee dee to you, too, Scarlett O'Hara.
The reality of what actually is, is that even South Park is being censored to suit the jihadis.
Another reality of what actually is, is that piss Christ is art while piss Koran is a crime.

/Maybe you should stop yawning before flies get in.

281 marwan's daughter  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:54:42pm

re: #144 song_and_dance_man

The left are relentless.

Hebrew lessons learned Wednesday at the Ben Gamla Charter School seemed pretty straightforward. Read from right to left. There are no vowels in formal Hebrew.

But one lesson not learned on the taxpayer-funded campus, according to Broward County schools: Hebrew is not to be taught, at least for now.

The command not to teach the language came from the School Board on Tuesday, out of concern the charter school violates the federally established separation between religion and government.

CAIR snickers, the ACLU salutes with high fives, the Left salivates, and moonbats shriek in giddy abandon.

The Almighty looks down and shakes his head, "They have lost their way."

And yet lizards here buy Daniel Pipes flawed arguments against the so-called madrassa in New York.

282 kevinmumaw  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:55:33pm

At the risk of commenting prior to reading all previous comments (I'll get to it after this) the President is not subject to the UCMJ. Duh. I can't believe an actual adult human being wrote this article and actually signed his name to it.

And how exactly do the genuises at Huffing Glue expect to remove a Constitutionally provided power from the President...all the while allowing him to retain the office? Seriously, Martin Lewis just had a Miss Teen South Carolina moment.

283 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 6:58:22pm

re: #279 grumpy old codger

Or maybe just someone who likes to tweak things, sort of an agent provocateur.

284 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 7:11:42pm

re: #283 grumpy old codger

/she's all that and can hold her own in an argument too

285 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 7:14:48pm

re: #280 NiceLass

Right.

/let me know when CAIR actually wins a lawsuit or my jiz yah is due, whichever comes first

286 JeffinSac  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 7:14:55pm

re: #273 grumpy old codger

re: #271 JeffinSac
Notice how caefully he danced around the actual calling for such actions.


No he did not dance around it. Did you not read the article? Let me quote it for you because he even bolded it.

You can relieve the President of his command.


The only way for a military person to relieve the President of Command of the Military that he is granted for with the Constitution is by a mutinous or seditious act. There is no dancing on this, he just thinks he is dance and does not understand what he is saying. He invokes the UCMJ, but that only applies to military personnel, not the President or any part of the Civilian government. When you say it is okay for the military to relieve ANY part of the civilian government you care calling for the start of the military to overthrow that government.

287 kevinmumaw  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 7:18:28pm

re: #48 Ginn


However, given the current imperilment of US troops, and the "Conduct Unbecoming Of An Officer And A Gentleman" of this President - you have a greater responsibility to your nation, your code of honor and to the US Constitution.
I wish you well as you prepare to undertake the most heroic action of your distinguished career.

General Pace - please save the US.

Respectfully yours,

Martin Lewis


EXTRA! EXTRA!

In Unprecedented Move Joint Chief Of Staffs General Pace Relieves President Bush Of Commander In Chief Duties!

"When I read the letter from Martin Lewis I just had to do it," General Pace declared.


In reality here is what would happen:

Capt Cool Guy: Sir, an urgent letter from a left-wing douche bag named Martin Lewis.

General Pace: A letter from who? Martin Lewis? Who the fuck is that? Fuck that little (deleted) civilian left-wing douche bag.

(Seriously, I think these lefty douch bags are getting an extremely skewed vision of senior military officers...most of them don't turn into limp wristed turds until after they retire. Wesley Clarke is not the termplate for leading Lewis's dream Coup d'etat.)

288 Randband  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 7:21:01pm

re: #7 mama winger

What in the hell exactly!

I couldn't get past all the misspelled words.

289 kevinmumaw  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 7:38:27pm

Lewis says:

However you have the legal responsibility - under Article 134 of the Uniform Code Of Military Justice - to protect the troops under your command by relieving the President of his MILITARY command.


And he references Article 134 here: "Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special, or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court."

I have no idea how he arrived at the conclusion that General Pace has any type of legal responsibility to carry out this insurrection, except perhaps the bold portion above. Is it possible that Martin Lewis is so completely ignorant of all things military, he is so incredibly stupid, that he saw the word "general" and assumed it meant that a general (officer) is somehow magically responsible for placing President's under military arrest? Is it possible that Martin Lewis is so completely goddamned stupid that he doesn't know that the word general in the wording of Article 134 of the UCMJ...is in fact a type of court martial? As Summary and Special are also types of court martials?

Well, I am actually not surprised at the complete derangement that affects those suffering from BDS. On DU, they accused a 1LT George W Bush of the Texas Air National Guard of wearing an unauthorized ribbon (Expert Small Arms Marksmanship Badge) andMartin Lewis states at the end of his request for a military coup that George W Bush has actually not been awarded a swingle military decoration. Which is of course not true, but somehow it makes Peter Pace more obliged to arrest the President. Somehow in Bizzaro World, I guess.

It is wierd rants like Lewis's and "Iraq is like-Cuba" boy from Kos-Tards yesterday that make me feel good about having a 9mm because you never know what kind of lunatics are lurking out there.

"I have a fever, and the prescription is more cowbell"

290 hous bin pharteen  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 7:44:39pm

Bolsheviks calling for a coup.
Boy, am I suprised.

291 kevinmumaw  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 7:51:30pm

re: #97 GreenDroll

I just figured out Martin Lewis is a Brit. Explains his complete and utter lack of even a semblance of understanding of how our government or military function or are organized. Being a leftist explains his utter lack of touch with reality. Being British means he has crappy teeth and may die waiting for a heart transplant...and is insanely pale and feels that men wearing women's clothing is the height of humo(u)r.

292 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 7:58:30pm

re: #284 Killian Bundy
I'm sure she can. And I'd probably call her friend and buy her a drink, if i knew her personally. Nonetheless, she seems to enjoy sniping and tossing off comments, that seem to be unwarranted, insulting and derogatory. I need not tolerate it nor "cut her slack" because of her longevity or number of times she's run at the mouth in posting. I've found several of her comments offensive. I'll continue to call her on them. She will probably express an negative opinion of me and my posts. Fine.
This forum represents the free flow of ideas. Sniping, sharp-shooting and insulting remarks are not marks of intelligence nor intellectual prowess.

293 COB 6  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 8:33:04pm

This moron says: "To be crystal clear - I am NOT advocating or inciting you to undertake any illegal act, insurrection, mutiny, putsch or military coup." Yet according to Article 94 of the UCMJ, that's exactlt what he's calling for.

(a) Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;

(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;

Furthermore, this ass-clown has committed sedition himself in violation of the Smith Act of 1940:

“Knowingly or willfully advocate, abet, advise or teach the duty, necessity, desirability or propriety of overthrowing the Government of the United States”

Maybe you can get a cell with Michael Vick? Good luck trying to outrun him.

COB6

294 grumpy old codger  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 8:39:30pm

re: #293 COB 6

As you correctly surmised, he danced around article 94 of the UCMJ, which he is not subject to, but clearly stated his intentions re the smith Act, which he is sublect to. now of only the government had the nerve to enforce its own laws.

295 lowglow  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 9:12:56pm

As a Retired Military member I can tell you for a fact, no one in the Military would ever be involved in any coup, for one reason the military is mostly Conservative and would not follow the orders to be rid of the President, even if ordered, in fact it would be considered an Unlawful Order, The only People that have the right under the Constitution and even this law is vague is the people, themselves.
So I find it hilarious that these moon bats would ever think the military would rise up for Democrats when the Military knows that the Moon bats hate them.

296 Macker  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 9:30:17pm

Well, if this Martin Lewis guy didn't have a file on him over at the FBI prior to publication of this little ditty, he certainly does now!

297 deanayer  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 9:42:57pm

the request - no matter how mealy mouthed - still sounds like treason. Whats extra gutless however is that the guy isnt intent on performing a treasonous act himself he wants someone else to do it for him.

298 Spiny Norman  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 9:51:06pm

re: #295 lowglow

As a Retired Military member I can tell you for a fact, no one in the Military would ever be involved in any coup, for one reason the military is mostly Conservative and would not follow the orders to be rid of the President, even if ordered, in fact it would be considered an Unlawful Order, The only People that have the right under the Constitution and even this law is vague is the people, themselves.
So I find it hilarious that these moon bats would ever think the military would rise up for Democrats when the Military knows that the Moon bats hate them.

The spoiled Marxist Revolutionary wannabes spend their whole lives disparaging the military, then DEMAND that the Armed Services do their bidding, in violation of everything a soldier is taught. Idiots.

They stamp their widdle feets and scream like babies when everyone ignores them.

299 Arbalest  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 9:57:56pm

I have to ask, is there a chance that this is actually a superbly-done HuffPo setup?

“Martin Lewis”

The writing style and the superb use of fonts in the article suggest someone trying to capture the spirit, in editorial form, of several of the early Dean Martin-Jerry Lewis movies; i.e., a spastic retard, with Turet’s Syndrome (and thoroughly un-medicated), attempting to be intellectual, debonair and glib.

The written ideas and literary images generated by the article suggest Jerry Lewis at his best; loud, hyper, bordering on a seizure, trying to grasp the simplest of concepts (eating breakfast while sitting) while honking inanely away.

300 Arbalest  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 10:36:03pm

Honestly, the HuffPo piece feels like this or this (depending on your political view).

301 mefolkes  Sat, Aug 25, 2007 11:57:08pm

Outrider, and his critics!

My post earlier seems to have been ignored. I'll dry my tears and repeat myself. Outrider should not have had his good name (or user name) sullied. I was chatting online with my cousin, a professor of pastoral care at the ELCA (Lutheran) seminary in Dubuque, Iowa, as I was reading this thread on Saturday afternoon. I asked him about how long the Methodists have been fully ordaining women as pastors (as opposed to consecrating as lay pastors or missionaries), and he had the references at hand to give me an answer in just a few minutes. The Methodists have been ordaining women, that means making them complete and official clergy, since 1956. Everyone who hasn't already tendered Outrider an apology, please get in line and start practicing your groveling.

302 baconeatingkaffir  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 12:53:06am

aaah. huffpuffandstuff. Reminds me of Kroft Superstars from when I was a kid. Do you think they get Sigmund the Sea monster to write for them?

303 GreenSoccer  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 1:05:13am

Isn't that the definition of sedition?

Someone wrote a book with a title something like Crazies to the Left of me and Wimps to the Right...

How about indicting the person recommending an overthrow?

304 coquimbojoe  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 1:09:19am

This is the kind of talk that passes for thoughtful, reasoned discussion on the left. I shall stoop to their level with a couple of ad hominum attacks: dumbass, moron.

/I feel better now.

305 deacon  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 3:31:59am

could this be because of their great respect for all those fine military coups of the past that have allowed leaders that they admire to take control, such as

Stalin
Castro
Mao
etc.

and all those other great leaders that just like to wear the snazzy uniforms such as

Hitler
Mussolini
etc.

306 MODERATIONIST[deleted]  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 3:42:38am
307 JamesTKirk  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 4:11:00am

re: #258 David IV of Georgia

re: #231 squarepeg

comrade? Or is that too progressive?

"Fellow traveller"?

308 saintarctangent  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 5:10:56am

re: #34 Render

#2 JWM You mentioned something in the last thread on this topic that I feel the need to correct...

The US military is not there to protect "us." That's just a pleasant by-product of what the US military Oath actually says.

To Wit; "...to defend the Constitution..."

ARMED
REPUBLIC,
R

Very true! Most people don't understand that. The military oath says nothing about protecting the land or the people - just says to protect the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. In fact, by suggesting or promoting a military coup, I'd say that the Huff author is a domestic enemy of the state trying to insight a military coup which threatens the Constitution. This suggestion isn't free speech. The author should be arrested, or at least have the FBI so far up his posterior they'll never suggest it again.

309 skysoldier  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 5:19:12am

Bottom line, this Martin Lewis twat is not committing treason against the US as he is an English wanker. One who believes that the"answer to the situation is for America to submit to British sovereignty again."
Other than that he is simply a moron who does not understand the way laws work. He cherry picked certain lines from the UCMJ when he should have started at the start. Article 1 defines who is or is not subject to UCMJ and the President obviously isn't.

310 Greg  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 6:12:52am

Don't those guys at Huffpo (appropriate name for them) and Mr. Lewis understand if the miltary REALLY did stage a coup d'etat similar to "Seven Days In May", they are the first ones into the camps because they are leftwing and traitorous to this nation.

Mr. Martin Lewis has a deathwish.

311 Paratrooper[deleted]  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 7:44:52am
312 E tan e epi tan  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 7:47:33am

Re: #135

Revenue is down and the idiots keep digging. Just last Tuesday the Tribune had a fawning article on the activist lawyer defending the Gitmo detainees.

Naturally, the article followed the lefty template: The lawyer was a hero, fighting for the oppressed and trying to beat back the excesses of an out of control Republican administration. He even helped them publish a book of poems so Americans can see what poor, misunderstood innocents they were.

No mention of their crimes or that most of them were either caught on the battlefield out of uniform and shooting at Americans or are major al Qaeda players.

No mention that these are the worst of the worst among our enemies.

No mention of their murderous philosophy.

No mention of the fact that the few who have been released have gone right back to shooting at people in Afghanistan.

Nope. Just a brave lawyer standing up for Americans' rights.

Glad I don't pay to read this rag anymore. Col. Robert McCormick, a die hard conservative and previous owner of the Trib must be spinning in his grave.

313 jwbaumann  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 8:32:09am

To paraphrase Gandhi, "It's a clever argument. I'm not sure it will achieve the outcome you seek."

314 opnion  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 10:50:03am

Ah, such a constitutional scholar.
You have to really mangle the UCMJ to get where he wants to go.
Once you do that , the issue of that pesky Constitution remains.
If you do not like an election or policies, have a military coup.Thats the ticket

315 Cygnus  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 8:32:34pm

re: #54 mama winger

re: #45 Outrider


The culmination for me came when the Methodist pastor in our little church got up in the pulpit one Sunday and started off by condemning my father, in absentia as he was in Nam, for being in Vietnam. She then went on to state the USA needed to be burned to the ground and started afresh.

What the HECK ?!?

It's probably one of those uber-liberal mainline churches that believe in nothing out of the Bible and care only about the latest left wing craze. We have several of that type in Seattle. Just one word for them - ICHABOD (the Glory has departed).

316 j-damn  Sun, Aug 26, 2007 10:13:14pm

re: #198 David IV of Georgia

Exactly.

317 Arbalest  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 12:10:53am

For completeness, it seems that Martin Lewis of the HuffPo is indeed claiming that his “Military Coup” piece was actually satire.

But it is also true that the only external non-HuffPo, non-Wiki link he provides is to the intellectual torpedo salvo from Captain’s Quarters (arrr, beggin pardon o’ Cap’n Ed, Mr. Lewis do be takin’ quite a few hits amidships).


“A much wiser person than I once asked rhetorically "How do you explain bad taste to people who haven't got ANY taste?"”

Perhaps a dietary change is part of the answer. Almost raw bacon, runny eggs, boiled beef, warm beer, cabbage, . . . what kind of taste COULD be developed?

Perhaps updating one’s literary palette is also in order:

“Anyone who has read “Gulliver’s Travels” (even the 'Comics Illustrated' . . . Perhaps has even heard of Jonathan Swift”

Jonathan Swift was good, and is a classic, but the modern "challenged reader" needs a bit more.

The last several years of “Spiderman” explore the Modern human condition, with Modern human issues and problems. Gulliver only had to free himself from the puny ropes of the Lilliputians; Spidey had to rescue MaryJane form a taxi suspended by Sandman 70 stories up.

That modern Americans are reasonably literate (and could understand J. Swift’s writing, IF THERE HAD BEEN A HINT) can be proved by picking up any issue of “Thor”, “Dr. Strange” or “The Silver Surfer”; plenty o’ Shakespeare-ish words, phrases and sentences in each of 'em.

And honestly, could Jonathan Swift turn a phrase as well as “Dr. Doom”? Doom has some good writers.


“But how do you explain satire to people who are uncontaminated by either wit or wisdom?”

For those who are truly uncontaminated by either wit or wisdom (I can’t resist), perhaps one will find the answer by scanning the “right-wing blogosphere” for the best blog rendition of: “Mr. Christian, bring that man aft.”


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Throwing objects such as this are capable of damaging expensive musical equipment and musicians. Any more of this and there will be no more music. -- FZ, Autumn 1981 at Northrup auditorium in Minneapolis, Minnesota. After someone threw a plunger on stage about two-thirds of the way through the show, he stopped the band with a wave of his hand speaking in the general direction that the dangerous object was thrown, while holding it in his hand. This did not prove to be an amusing act and Franks mood hardened. - It was, however, an evening of excellent, serious musicianship around the release of 'Shut up and play your guitar'

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