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HuffPo Military Coup Writer: It Was Satire, Wingnuts

Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 8:28:40 am PDT

Martin Lewis, who wrote that twisted article at Huffington Post calling for Gen. Peter Pace to stage a military coup and arrest President Bush, now says he was only kidding. Wingnuts are “smearing” him for nothing more than a little joke: Martin Lewis: ‘Let’s Twist Again’: Right-wing Bloggers Smear HuffPost.

Here’s the link to his uproarious piece of brilliant satire. See if you can spot teh funny: Martin Lewis: General Pace, You Can Save the US - by Arresting Bush for ‘Conduct Unbecoming’.

Allahpundit points out this comment left by Lewis, defending his original post.

I ask General Pace to do two things. One is to relieve the President of his command as Commander-In-Chief. The other is to place the President under military arrest. It is arguable as to the conflict between the Constitution and the Uniform Code Of Military Justice. One of the important legal ramifications of My Lai was the obligation to relieve a senior officer of his/her command in exceptional circumstances. If General Pace was performing a military imperative in a peaceful, non-threatening manner and simply informed Mr. Bush that he was being relieved of his military command, there would be no justification for the Secret Service to act as you suggest. Whatever the ultimate consequence, the impact of such a courageous and noble act on behalf of his nation, would be significant.

We haven’t witnessed such mastery of the subtle art of satire since Mark Twain.

Allahpundit suspects Lewis was “encouraged” to issue this ludicrous defense by an embarrassed Arianna Huffington. Sounds likely.

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1 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:29:15am

Morons.

2 Blackacre  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:29:19am

They wouldn't know satire if it hit them in the . . .

3 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:29:41am

Honest injun, Mr. FBI man! Satire!

4 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:30:02am
5 Carridine  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:30:04am

A cowardly and unprincipled 'defense', HuffPo!

6 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:30:31am

As if a retroactive satire tag makes it okay.

7 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:30:44am

Ah, the venerable "botched joke" defense.

8 squarepeg  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:31:04am

No, it wasn't satire; it was unintentional self-parody. Get your genres straight, moonbat.

9 Peacekeeper  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:31:12am

Me not moron, me smaht.

10 Peacekeeper  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:31:44am

re: #7 Occasional Reader

Ah, the venerable "botched joke" defense.

That one is getting old fast.

11 rab3  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:31:57am

I sense back peddling.

Martin Lewis, note to self people words have meaning, especially to our "friends" in the middle east.

12 cbinflux  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:31:57am

Just like A. Baldwin; big fun.

13 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:32:42am

Isn't this one of their usual explanations?

14 Carridine  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:32:46am

Arianna ember assed?

I should think so, but when one opens the floor to mindless, hate-filled cretins and Lewis's, WHY would she be ember assed?

15 Golem Akbar  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:32:52am
I ask General Pace to do two things. One is to relieve the President of his command as Commander-In-Chief. The other is to place the President under military arrest.

Well of course, it's a nuance-thing. Worked for Kerry, didn't it?

16 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:33:09am
Whatever the ultimate consequence, the impact of such a courageous and noble act on behalf of his nation, would be significant.

I guess I'm not nuanced enough to get the satire in that.

17 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:33:51am

Comedian Martin Lewis had such deadpan delivery with the original.

You think while he was sitting there furiously defending his idiocy, at some point he'd have fessed up and said it was a joke.

But it wasn't.

Typical, now he starts the name-calling.

18 mean Gene  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:34:02am

That's not satire.
Johnathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal," now THAT's satire!
What a jerk.

19 BrianA  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:34:12am

Whenever moonbats have their stupidity exposed the claim satire. Remember Sheryl Crow and her one square of TP?

20 Drained Brain  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:34:12am

Oh yeah. You're just too stupid to figure out how clever I am.

21 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:34:30am

Clowns.

22 BabbaZee  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:34:31am
23 Carridine  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:34:35am

Lewis? Can YOU spell sedition?

Believe me, it is NOT spelled S A T I R E ...

24 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:36:22am

OT: This link from Hot Air.....
AFP doesn't know the basics. Plus the dissident frogman looking silly on the intarweb.

Note the music changes about 1/3 the way through to an LGF bollywood favorite. Is Dissident Frogman a Lizard?

25 Carridine  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:36:22am
Clowns to the left of me,
Fools further left,
Here I am,
Stuck in the middle with yew...
26 Bill the Cat  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:36:22am

Reminds me of my teen-aged daughter who, when she says something dumb and is subsequently called on it, responds "I was just sayin'", as a means of distancing herself from her earlier statement. Although to be fair, she never says anything remotely as dumb as Lewis.

27 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:36:36am

re: #22 BabbaZee

The botched cambodian candidate redux

"You idiot, you botched it! And get me some raisins!"

Classic!

28 WeaselZipper  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:36:57am
29 Golem Akbar  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:37:11am

re: #22 BabbaZee

The botched cambodian candidate redux

Too early to lmao, Ms. Babba, but lmao I did...

30 BabbaZee  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:37:34am
31 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:38:04am
I ask General Pace to do two things. One is to relieve the President of his command as Commander-In-Chief. The other is to place the President under military arrest. It is arguable as to the conflict between the Constitution and the Uniform Code Of Military Justice. One of the important legal ramifications of My Lai was the obligation to relieve a senior officer of his/her command in exceptional circumstances. If General Pace was performing a military imperative in a peaceful, non-threatening manner and simply informed Mr. Bush that he was being relieved of his military command, there would be no justification for the Secret Service to act as you suggest. Whatever the ultimate consequence, the impact of such a courageous and noble act on behalf of his nation, would be significant.

Man that's "edgy".

32 BabbaZee  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:38:05am

re: #29 Golem Akbar

oldie but goodie lol

33 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:38:23am

Satire's often accompanied by quoting US Code, right?

34 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:38:38am

Satire? Really?

I wasn't doing satire when I wrote this:

Ian saw that the old bakery building at 22nd Avenue and Washington Street was boarded up again, another attempt to redevelop the property without demolishing the original single storey brick structure had failed.
Plastered all over the structure were posters showing a black and white photograph of a sixty-ish woman, with short fake blonde hair, a standard nine-millimeter service pistol was aimed at her head. The hammer of the pistol in the photograph was blurred as though it were falling on the firing pin.
Over the photograph on the poster in all capital letters was the one word, REMEMBER.

"I'm sorry sir," said the Chief as he pointed to the posters, "but I'm not fully familiar with that bit of Terran history."

"Well," Ian replied, "That's Saint Hillary, a martyr for the holy cause of Democracy. She was just a stupid old bitch who believed that being democratically elected somehow constituted an excuse for abusive and destructive behavior."


And I'm pretty sure that Steve Barry, the editor and publisher of The Resister, wasn't kidding when he called for a military coup against the Clinton/Gore crew back in 2000.

35 BabbaZee  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:38:46am

re: #27 Occasional Reader

Bwaha!

36 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:39:12am

Seizing upon the wondrous popularity of Lewis, an addle-brained Kos Kid got in on the action today.

Kooky Kos Kid: Seize Bush's Property

For these reasons alone, by law, Bush must have his assets frozen NOW, his Property Seized, And sent to Gitmo for Water Boarding! Him and everyone in his sector. You wrote the law Chimpy, read em and weep.
37 wargammer2005  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:39:50am

democrats are traitors.

Bush and the republicans have also violated their oaths of office.

80%+ of what congress spends our money on it unconstitutional, IMHO.
(welfare, social security, medicare, medicaid, and a whole lot more)

the US is falling apart due to idiots like KOS and the people that post there that believe marx is the way to go.
they like marx becasue they are too damn lazy to get real jobs, btw.

38 galloping granny  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:39:56am

Yeah, right. It is only "satire" because he is just now reallizing that an interview with the Men in Black is in his near future.

39 Milk Toast Intolerant  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:40:54am

Note to Arianna,

Don't let kids post on your blog. They'll cause you more trouble than you can handle.

40 mondoreb  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:41:04am

OF COURSE it's satire.

After searching the original piece for evidence of humor, farce or lampoon (a regular feature in satire I've been informed), I was not surprised it contained none.

Martin Lewis makes a valid defense:
The Left's humor rarely contains evidence of humor; why should the bar for 'satire' be set any higher.

41 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:41:38am

re: #28 WeaselZipper

Ugh. I haven't been through the new stuff at Liveleak yet this morning. I'm afraid to go look now.

42 ElKafir  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:42:36am

Ariana Puffington is a syphillys spreading slut.

Oh, don't get upset Ariana! I was just joking.

43 phil flavin  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:42:49am

from dictionary.com
Satire (noun)
1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
3. a literary genre comprising such compositions.


For a bit of reference as well, also see
Stupid
1. lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2. characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.
3. tediously dull, esp. due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.
4. annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.
5. in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.

44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:43:08am

It was funny. Not Haha funny. More of a "hmmmmmm" funny.

45 realwest  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:43:38am

Good morning Charles - I reckon someone has mentioned this to you before, but just in case they haven't, LGF was acting weriod on the DT today - type out a comment and go to post and..........nada, nothing would happen. So you copy your comment, refresh LGF (which was slow) and then post. Happened to other commenter's also.
Also ( or maybe in lieu of LGF problems) there seems to have been problems on the internet today - hard if not impossible to raise some sights, like YouTube, etc.
I've written a sternly worded letter to Al Gore, but so far no response!

46 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:43:55am

re: #36 JammieWearingFool
Note the diary tags: no mention of satire, spoof, snark, etc. They're very serious.

47 jcm  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:44:09am

To write satire, one must have a sense of humor. A prerequsite for being a lefty is a humorectomy.

48 mondoreb  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:44:17am

re: #17 JammieWearingFool

Tip Sheet for the Liberal Defense:

Plan A: I was kidding.
Plan B: Call names, taunt and offer no evidence.

Martin Lewis, appears convinced that Plan A was a loser and went straight to Plan B.

49 Geepers  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:44:38am

Martin Lewis says: "It was satire."

Now that's funny.

50 manny  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:45:49am

Allahpundit suspects Lewis was “encouraged” to issue this ludicrous defense by an embarrassed Arianna Huffington. Sounds likely.

I dunno. She's demonstrated over the years that she's pretty hard to embarrass.

51 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:45:58am

Wow, that was such subtle satire that I missed it!

Puleze...these lefties really do think we're nothing but a bunch of stupid hicks, don't they?

52 realwest  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:46:04am

Um, just one little quibble with your intro Charles, you say "Allahpundit suspects Lewis was “encouraged” to issue this ludicrous defense by an embarrassed Arianna Huffington."
Nope, don't think so - she isn't the kind to get embarrassed about anything or she'd of shut down or better moderated her blog a loooong time ago.

53 realwest  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:47:10am

re: #50 manny
GMTA! (see my #52)

54 OliveMe  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:47:36am

If you read Lewis' responses in the comments section, it's so obvious that he wasn't claiming it to be satire until further into his foot dinner.

55 Geepers  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:48:40am

Somebody forced him to write this response.

Because it's not a defense of his "satire", it's denial and attack.

56 David Simon  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:48:58am

I hear Martin Lewis likes to bugger little boys, shove furry creatures up his rosy red rectum and smoke his own farts.

Just kidding Martin!

57 realwest  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:49:24am

Oh, and in furtherance of my #52 (in other words a PS) I don't think it's fair for anyone to blasphemy the good name of Mark Twain!

58 Carridine  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:49:59am

Babba, that training film-noir was funny! LMAO...

/now I gotta find it... around here somewhere!

59 Eowyn2  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:50:13am

re: #33 Sharmuta

Satire's often accompanied by quoting US Code, right?

Yes.

"Its against the law to spit on the sidewalk in NYC but pissig in an alley doesnt even draw a glance"

60 htom  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:52:23am

Well, "satire" and "stupid" both have six letters, two syllables, and begin with "s", so it's easy to see how he became confused.

61 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:52:38am

Is it just me or do the libs seem to be getting shriller and shriller with the hatred and the accompanying rhetoric?

62 FrogMarch  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:52:54am

When Michael Moore was caught with his lying pants down, he too said "

my movies are satire

".

It's a typical left-winger response. Whenever a left-winger gets caught lying or saying something stupid, suddenly... magically! - it's all satire.

63 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:53:30am
64 southernborn  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:53:44am

The bell has been rung huffy and it can't be unrung. What martin Lewis said sounds like something straight from your wishes. Sort of like: "The jury will disregard that statement." too late.

65 BabbaZee  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:54:35am

re: #58 Carridine

;~} Shalom yer Bahainess

66 FrogMarch  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:55:50am

ugh.

let me try that again. I could have sworn I used the Italic button.

When Michael Moore was caught with his lying pants down, he too said
"my movies are satire".

It's a typical left-winger response. Whenever a left-winger gets caught lying or saying something stupid, suddenly... magically! - it's all satire.

67 bulbasaur  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:58:11am

See, the thing about the Internet is that it leaves a permanent trail.

I wonder if Lewis and Ariana even dreamed that the comment he posted would undermine his subsequent backtracking effort?

Now it looks even MORE disingenuous.

What a nightmare. I actually feel sorry for him and Ariana.

68 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:59:11am
The wing-nut world is up in arms (in some cases literally) with calls for me to be tried for sedition and treason. Some want me deported. Others are advocating hanging or shooting against a wall. Worst of all -- someone wants the FBI to open a file on me. (And I thought that the FBI was busy with important matters...)

Dumb*ss- they probably already have one.

And I find it telling you think that's the worst part is this. Not getting deported, or tried for treason. An FBI file! The horror!

/Here's a hint too marty- that last line... That was actual satire.

69 southernborn  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 8:59:12am

re: #36 JammieWearingFool
JESUS these people are dumb as a fence POST!

70 pat  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:00:45am

"Oh, that's funny!"
Now that is satire.

71 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:05:17am

re: #55 Geepers

Because it's not a defense of his "satire", it's denial and attack.

Ad hominem isn't a defense?

/Who knew?

[Yes- that was more satire, marty]

72 realwest  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:07:41am

re: #68 Sharmuta "The wing-nut world is up in arms (in some cases literally)"
Oooh fuckin' PLEASE! These folks take themselves sooo seriously it's hard to believe.
Course then you realize that their idea's and ideals are sooo ridiculous that they HAVE to take themselves seriously

73 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:08:15am

I've said this before and shall now say it again:

I've come to the conclusion that apart from his species, the character of Invader Zim is essentially the idealized form of the complete modern utopian agitator.

Like the modern utopian agitator, Zim embodies supreme arrogance combined with supreme ignorance, a total dependence on the technology created by others, and a level of personal ability barely suitable for working in the fast food industry. As one the leaders of the Irkan Empire, Almighty Tallest Purple once asked Zim, "shouldn't you be frying something?"

And what can I say about the Irkans?

They not only militarised their society in the manner dreamed about by various utopians, but they have also gone beyond those archmilitarists, the ancient Spartans, in completely removing the family from the social structure altogether. Zim's first words upon being decanted from the womb-machine thingy were, "I love you cold robotic arm."

Of course having achieved the utopian dream of totally regimenting their own society, the Irkans then proceed to indulge in that other annoying habit of practicing utopians, the conquest and ruthless exploitation of their neighbors.

Invader Zim, having been sent to Earth so he wouldn't foul-up Operation Impending Doom II the way he wrecked Operation Impending Doom I, regards himself to be grossly superior to the inhabitants (that's us) even though every one of his schemes to effect a takedown of human society is thwarted by his next door neighbor, Dib, a boy who has seen too many episodes of The X-Files.

If it weren't for the well documented effects of various utopian schemes, the various efforts of our own home-grown utopians to impose their will upon us would be almost as funny.

74 opnion  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:11:02am

The My Lai reference is so retro. Man they miss Viet Nam.
This is such a clumbsy attempt to deflect from a totally unhinged article.
It was not satire and it is childish to go that route. When you read it you do not detect any tongue in cheek.
There is too much analysis of the UCMJ, although he drew idiotic conclusions.

75 playblu  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:22:52am

I've actually met Martin Lewis.

He's insane. He did a routine at Beatlefest in Chicago one year that consisted of him prancing around on stage in a tophat and cane, reading the lyrics to "Yer Blues" as if they were poetry. Feel free to picture how well THAT went over.

He's a toady, a guy talk shows drag out for comment when a member of the British royal family does something reprehensible. He's not a comedian because he's not an actor or a standup.

76 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:30:52am

So the little Stalinist calls for a military coup.
Then lies about calling for a coup.
Then certain posters will come on and say this is not representative of Huffpo and the other little Stalinists.
Then something else will pop up again showing this is representative of the little Huffpo/DUers/Kos asshats.
Then we will be told by said posters/apologists that this is an isolated incident among the 48,325 other isolated incidents.

Repeat all over again the next day.

Now, I ask....

Who are the fascists?

77 pingjockey  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:34:46am

Are there any adults on the left? This is beyond ludicrous. It is quite obvious these people have no idea how the constituion, the military, or even, god forbid, common sense works.

78 Geepers  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:39:02am

And I do laugh at Martin's insistence that the wingnuts don't "get" satire.

Reminds me of Iowahawk's satirical classic

Guest Commentary by Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi
Stop Questioning My Patriotism

If nothing else, the Fourth of July should prompt all Americans, whether they are an infidel fornicating whore-woman in a Miami strip club or a fresh-faced enlistee in a secret Prague martyr cell, to reflect on the true meaning of ‘patriotism.’ To me, patriotism is not some empty flag-waving gesture, or spouting jingoistic slogans. To me, dissent is the real patriotism. And what could be more patriotic than the ultimate in dissent – bloody jihad against the kufr and their heretic puppets in Baghdad?

Over which the kos kids went gonzo in defence because they thought it was for real:

The Latest in the New McCarthyism

I am appalled and sickened that anyone would draw a parellel between Al-Zarqawi and the American Left.

To which Iowahawk's "special correspondant" responded:
Stop Comparing Me to American Moonbats

Oh, ya think? Well, I got news for you, Moby: I’m not exactly thrilled about any such comparison MYSELF, okay? See, I didn’t spend the last ten years crawling in the sand at jihad training camp, getting my knuckles thwacked by an Imam every time I forgot a Quran verse, and living in smelly Baghdad safehouse just to get compared to a bunch of trucker-hat AltWeekly motards from Austin and Seattle.

Me, like the American Left? I mean, are you fucking joking me?

As. Fucking. If.

79 Cygnus  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:39:41am

Next time they'll say, 'Let's kill Bush!' and the next day proclaim that it was just 'satire'. Ha Ha - very funny. Tell it to the FBI.

80 gtrtech  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:42:10am

Martin Lewis is no Martin and Lewis....obviously.

Al Franken is a big satire fan, too. Wonder how many of his senatorial speeches will later be revealed to us mouth-breathing conservatives as "satire".

81 windbag  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:42:15am

"Just joking" is the lamest defense I know. I rarely accept that one. Testing the waters is the more likely motivation.

82 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:44:21am

Right out of the leftie-dem playbook... When caught bullshitting, cry "Satire!", thereby smearing your critics as being obtuse, and covering your butt at the same time.

I was misunderstood...
It's not fair...
Wingnuts are idiots...
Waaaaaah

83 Carol Herman  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:46:10am

Cosmo, a character on Seinfeld, tried to do comedy in front of an audience and bombed.

So, if glue-puffing-huff-po, thinks she published a "satire," it just didn't go over, big. Though, yes, lots of people commented about Martin Lewis being a British comedian. But, no Monty Python, he.

84 JohnnyReb  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:46:12am

I don't think anyone "forced" him to claim it was satire. I suspect that someone with at least some brains convinced him that if he didn't do it, a visit from the Secret Service just might be in his near future.

They do take these type of things as serious threats these days, satire or not.

85 jdawg  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:47:35am

Liberals are the enemy within.

No satire here. It is fact.

86 Carol Herman  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:48:28am

Oh, for real satire? Arianna married a rich homosexual, and tried to make him a Senator for California. He bitched about the money she spent. Nor did he win. Very funny.

87 jdawg  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:48:59am

re: #79 Cygnus

Next time they'll say, 'Let's kill Bush!' and the next day proclaim that it was just 'satire'. Ha Ha - very funny. Tell it to the FBI.

They've already done that one. It was a movie that you can still rent from Hastings. And never forget the kill bush t-shirts and paraphernalia. These leftys today are seditious and sick.

88 spinoneone  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:49:08am

Well, last time I looked at the US Code, inciting the violent overthrow of the government was a punishable offense. Suborning a US military officer to commit a crime is a punishable offense. According to the UCMJ, criticizing the President is a punishable offense and inciting a coup d'etat by arresting the President would most certainly qualify. While the President is Commander-in-Chief, I am not aware that anyone, anytime, anywhere ever claimed or tried to claim that he was subject to the provisions of the UCMJ.

Martin Lewis is an idiot if he thinks any sane person would consider his "suggestion" was anything approaching "satire." I would call it treason and inciting the violent overthrow of the U. S. Government and Constitution.

89 MeanMrMustard  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:49:35am

Article 2 of the UCMJ lists the categories of persons who are subject to the jurisdiction of the UCMJ; the President isn't.

90 Carol Herman  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:50:17am

re: #84 JohnnyReb

I don't think anyone "forced" him to claim it was satire. I suspect
that someone with at least some brains convinced him that if he didn't
do it, a visit from the Secret Service just might be in his near future.

They do take these type of things as serious threats these days, satire or not.

Um. The "satire excuse" doesn't work at airports.

And, it doesn't work, either, when a rich woman marries a homosexual; and then tries to get him elected to public office. She got to keep his name, though. So, I guess it's "satire" for her kids, RIIGHT?

91 jdawg  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:50:37am

re: #88 spinoneone

Well, last time I looked at the US Code, inciting the violent overthrow of the government was a punishable offense. Suborning a US military officer to commit a crime is a punishable offense. According to the UCMJ, criticizing the President is a punishable offense and inciting a coup d'etat by arresting the President would most certainly qualify. While the President is Commander-in-Chief, I am not aware that anyone, anytime, anywhere ever claimed or tried to claim that he was subject to the provisions of the UCMJ.

Martin Lewis is an idiot if he thinks any sane person would consider his "suggestion" was anything approaching "satire." I would call it treason and inciting the violent overthrow of the U. S. Government and Constitution.

It is treasonous. But there'll be nothing done, I guarantee you.

92 OLDPUPPYMAX  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:51:06am

Say what? Ariana embarrassed? There are two prerequisites for lifetime membership in the American left--utter hypocrisy and total shamelessness. Ariana must be careful lest she lose her professional status.

93 JEGjr  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:53:40am

"Allahpundit suspects Lewis was “encouraged” to issue this ludicrous defense by an embarrassed Arianna Huffington. Sounds likely."

Yeh, especially after Bill Quick handed his ass to him.

94 Ginn  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:58:49am

re: #93 JEGjr

"Allahpundit suspects Lewis was “encouraged” to issue this ludicrous defense by an embarrassed Arianna Huffington. Sounds likely."

Yeh, especially after Bill Quick handed his ass to him.

I disagree. Arianna would have to have a bag over that perfectly coiffed head by now from all the other extremely vitroil posts on her blog. Lewis' satire was nothing compared to those...

95 Sifty  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:06:43am

I, as always, call "BULLSHIT".

96 Suzette  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:09:28am

It just didn't come across as 'satire' to me. Nothing funny about it.
Should moonbats stay away from keyboards? Especially when they lack a sense of humor? Or the the ability to even back peddle properly?
The fool needs to keep his day job...oh wait is it writing? Maybe a new line of work is in order.
Damn fool.

97 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:11:26am

re: #93 JEGjr

from Bill...

I just love it when the left puts it’s neofascist wet dreams on record

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

THAT should be a rotating headline.
..........LGF. Putting the lefts neofascist wet dreams on record.

98 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:13:47am

What the hell is it with the filthy rich left wingers and their love of Fascism and Marxism?

Must be their inner dictator.

99 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:17:20am

Brilliant~!

This guy should write for CAIR....

Sounds like he already does....

~ENT

100 Ceemack  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:24:12am

Wow...Martin Lewis' satire was just too subtle for me. I always thought there was some over-the-top air to good satire to let you know that it really WAS satire, and I must have missed that part of Lewis' essay. You know, like a human being tied to the ground by a bunch of people a few inches high.

Maybe I'm just used to classical satirists like Swift, who were just so--OBVIOUS.

Maybe I'm just so used to the over-the-top nature of moonbat proposals that this one didn't seem out of the ordinary.

Or maybe it's just that I'm a conservative, and so don't read that many books.

101 kywrite  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:28:32am

I'll grant that satire is sometimes hard to recognize -- one of those "I know it when I see it" things. But it can be defined.

In satire, "human or individual vices, follies, abuses, or shortcomings are held up to censure by means of ridicule, derision, burlesque, irony, or other methods, sometimes with an intent to bring about improvement." I didn't see that in the HP piece.

". . . the purpose of satire is not primarily humour but criticism of an event, an individual or a group in a clever manner. " Hm. Didn't really see that either. Since Pace is the one he's calling on, shouldn't that make Pace the object of the supposed satire?

"Satire usually has a definite target, which may be a person or group of people, an idea or attitude, an institution or a social practice." Not sure I saw the target - unless he was self-satirizing Bush Derangement Syndrome. Now there I'd grant him the label of satire!

"Often the target is examined by being held up for ridicule, typically in the hope of shaming it into reform." Don't see that either.

"A very common, almost defining feature of satire is a strong vein of irony or sarcasm." Didn't see any of this at all. I'm pretty good at recognizing irony and sarcasm.

". . . it is strictly a misuse of the word to describe as "satire" works without an ironic (or sarcastic) undercurrent of mock-approval. Satirical writing or drama often professes to approve values that are the diametric opposite of what the satirist actually wishes to promote." And again -- where's the mock-approval? Or the diametric opposite? If this were satire, would it not, say, have espoused the removal of Nancy Pelosi and other folks who call for Bush's removal? Perhaps by charging them with treason?

I can only conclude one of two things: either Martin is a terrible, terrible writer with no true appreciation for real satire, or he is totally disingenuous. I suspect it's really both, blended with a strong strain of contempt for the intelligence of the conservative reader he attempts to attack.

The last is a serious mistake.

102 cookielady  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:35:40am

re: #101 kywrite

blended with a strong strain of contempt for the intelligence of the conservative reader he attempts to attack.

Waaal, ya know, we'uns dont read much atall. We's kinda dumm, anyways, and plus also uneddicated.

Is that satire? :-)

103 chinesearithmetic  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:37:08am

There's no crying in satire, Lewis.

104 Catttt  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:37:33am

I just sent a work e-mail that started this way: "It looks like I dropped the ball on this one." I am now correcting a mistake, but I ADMITTED my error, so I am forgiven in advance and thought to be a grown-up.

I had a friend who, whenever she was called on some stupid or mean-spirited or luny remark, would say "I'm KIDDING." It was annoying.

Also, when I first read "A Modest Proposal" by J. Swift decades ago, I got that it was satire right away. You, Martin Lewis (like the comedy team), are no J. Swift.

105 francisco d'anconia  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:43:04am

So let me get this straight, he's saying that this was satire right? wouldn't that mean that he would then be making fun of people with bds? since the article calls for the removal of bush because he has broken the law, if it is satire wouldnt that mean that he thinks those calling for Bush's removal are stupid? He then posts links to his other writings to prove he was being satirical. These writings, however, suggest that he does think Bush is evil and should be removed from office. This means that he either is recanting everything he wrote beforehand or that he was being serious. Also he then starts to berate the right wingers, who if this was satire, he would agree with. He then points to Swift as an example of satire and says the right must not get him either. I get Swift. I get Twain. If this is satire that would mean that this guy is claiming to be a better writer of satire than either since only they truly smart would "get it." By his words and deeds this was not satire. he meant it. then he got his ass handed to him, and declared it satire and the people who didnt get it stupid. Well who is stupider, the right wing people who didnt "get it" or the left wingers that are now posting on the site praising him for his "satire" patting themselves on the back for being smart enough to get it and not realizing that if this was satire, then Lewis was making fun of them?

106 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:46:53am
107 Jeewhiz  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 11:08:15am

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Abraham Lincoln

108 NeoKong  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 11:10:06am

The only joke I could detect was Martin Lewis and his psycho-babble.
The "new center".

What a clown.

109 Drew  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 1:30:20pm

"Stuck in Irak" syndrome.

110 JEGjr  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 2:12:28pm

I just went back and read his "this is satire" article (and the comments). He couldn't even stay away from the childish namecalling in the second non-satirical article - his raving moonbattery wouldn't allow it.

111 rorschach  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 2:15:44pm

It's amazing just how stupid the Left thinks we are. There has to be a way for this to work to our advantage.

112 LibraryGryffon  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 2:25:18pm

Is it just me, or can anyone else imagine what would happen to Mr. Lewis if he were to write a similar "satire" about a sitting Dem president, especially Hillary?

113 Simon Jester  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 2:36:48pm

his example of litotes, by the way, was NOT litotes.

It's kind of pathetic, I think, a) that he thinks anyone cares, and b) that he seems to feel more secure in his pseudo-intellectual midgetdom when he can call himself an 'effete' elitist and suggest that us nuts out here on the RAAAIGHT wing are gun-toting hicks who need style and rhetoric citations from wikipedia.

114 Simon Jester  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 2:37:34pm

Speaking of which, what's effete? I thought it was a foot and two feet...

115 CEQAttorney  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 2:52:16pm

I wonder if anyone else pointed out that General Pace isn't the senior officer. He's the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The Joint Chiefs of Staff have no operational command.

For General Pace to do what Mr. Lewis suggests, it would be similar to the White House Chief of Staff taking over.

116 Bobbo  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 3:40:12pm

I have an idea...could be ironic...

How about a little "performance art"? Somebody got a rope? That tree over there looks to be a good stage!

117 daverx  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 3:57:28pm

Not an insult, but a very serious survey. Martin Lewis is:
A - A less-witty descendant of "Lord Haw-haw" secretly known on the left as "Viscount Tee-hee"
B - An aspiring speech-writer for John Kerry, just showing off
C - A little girl with suddenly-wet panties
D - A. and C.

You mouth-breathers will be surprised to know that the answer is D.

118 republic  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 5:05:32pm

Ha, Martin Lewis, you honestly believe, that it's OK to try and cover up an outright lie, with spin?

The tragedy, of your pitiful life, is the spin, fools nobody, except your poor, pitiful self.

Enjoy the "spoils" of your outright lies.

Heh.

119 pepsikid  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 7:24:19pm

i haven't seen any notice of Mr. lewis being taken into custody.

whats the matter, the boys in the three piece grey suits sloughing off?

C

120 Hard Right  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 9:41:07pm

You hear that you mentally ill leftists? That's the dying cry of your ability to spew hatred without consequences.

121 hershel  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:08:30pm

"I was just kidding"

... the song of the weasel

122 Edouard  Mon, Aug 27, 2007 10:58:26pm

Lewis is a liar.

123 Paratrooper  Tue, Aug 28, 2007 6:01:52pm

That is BS, go read his responses to the on-line comments at his site telling him he is an idiot. This guy is completely delusional. Lewis is like a dog... he only stops shitting when his nose is rubbed in it. The backpedaling begins....


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